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282. Finding Peace in Motherhood: Navigating Chaos with Grace | Leslie Burris
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Lisa
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Leslie Burris
You have exactly the capacity that you need for the season that you're currently in. This friend, she had one child, I had four kids, ages 5 and under. And I just reminded her like, I have the capacity for four, you have the capacity for one. You need to be a good steward with your capacity with where you're at. You do not have to worry about having any capacity for two children. Until build that baby is born. I will be given the capacity that I need only in the moment that I need it. Not when I'm practicing, not when I'm fearful, not when I'm playing hypothetical situations in my head.
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Lisa
My name is Lisa, mother of eight and creator of the blog and YouTube channel Farmhouse on Boone. On this podcast I like to talk about simplifying your life so you can live out your priorities. I help you learn how to cook from scratch and decorate on A budget through this podcast and my courses Simple Sourdough and the Simple Sewing series. I also help people reach their goals from home through my business course YouTube success at academy. I will leave links to these resources in the show notes and description box below.
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Unknown
Now let's get into the show. Welcome back to the Simple Farmhouse Life podcast.
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Lisa
Today I'm having on a listener favorite.
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Unknown
Guest, Leslie Burris of Leslie Burris over on Instagram leslieburris.com We are going to chat motherhood, entrepreneurship and mostly just catch up. I love talking to Leslie. We've never even met in real life yet, but we absolutely need to. We chat for way too long. So put this in here, maybe get some housework done and enjoy. Leslie, I'm excited to have you on and to catch up. I was just on Instagram this morning and I saw that you went live and you. I had just hadn't seen you around there for a while so I was like, oh, I'm gonna catch up. But I'm like, oh, I'm gonna talk to her later today. So we have a lot to talk about. Like what's been going on lately. You started a new business. Y. So for those who don't know you, I guess, let's give us a quick introduction. Obviously you were on the show either last fall or the fall before. We can't really decide. But yeah. Tell us about yourself.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, so I'm Leslie Burris. I'm a mom of seven. I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma and much like you, Lisa, we are a self sustaining family. We work together as a family and really leverage social media. And it's really a. It's amazing. Like when I think about when my parents ask me like, what do you do for work? And I'm like, I don't know. I talk to my friends, I talk to my friends and I help them. I'm a huge fan of moms and grandmas. I just, I just love, I don't know, I just talk to people and I do have a blog. I do have a YouTube channel thanks to your amazing courses and things like that. And so, yeah, I'm just, I guess you could just call me a classical mom blogger, I suppose. Is that still a thing or is that for 20, 2015?
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Unknown
I mean, it's, I feel like that's done through Instagram, but that's. Yeah, yeah, I would say I'm a.
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Leslie Burris
Lifestyle blogger through Instagram. Okay, that sounds, I mean, I don't know how technical that is, but I mean, technically I'm a domestic engineer. I Have seven kids. So we're running a house much like a business. You know, kids waking up, getting up, doing homeschool. And we do much like you, we do a lot of cooking from scratch. We, you know, we have a really, I don't know, minimalistic life, I guess you could say. But it is such a fulfilling one. It's like slow and intentional, yet it's so fast. And so I do invest a lot of time over on Instagram. And yeah, you're right, I actually took a 40 day break and we could talk about that a little bit later. I know some people who are on Instagram or want to grow an audience, they think to themselves, like, do I have to be on here all the time? And I, I did. I just got back from like a really kind of intuitive break. I don't plan those things. I'm not much of a content planner. And yeah, I did go live. It was the first time I had seen my audience and connected with them there. And I actually treat Instagram much like a podcast. I do have a regular podcast, but I also just really like to connect with moms and grandmas on Instagram. So.
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Unknown
Yeah, yeah, well, and you've been busy because you've started a brand new avenue for your business. So you can tell us a bit about that. Lbs.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, so that was kind of a crazy thing. So about four or five years ago, I had major eczema all over my hands and I didn't know if it was hormonal or what. And so someone had told me all about beef liver. And so I started taking beef liver and I was flying. Like, my energy was great and my pregnancies were better and I didn't have to do like iron supplementation. And so I started taking beef liver and beef organs on my own as a just natural supplement or a natural multivitamin, I guess you could say. And when I was, when I was sharing this with my audience, people went crazy and they were like, I want to try, like beef organs. They're affordable and they work and they're great. And so all my friends were having this success and the common question I was getting in my DMs is how do I give this to my kids? And so, you know, I had some people in my audience saying, like, well, my kid just eats the capsule, like chews on it. And I was like, wow, that's impressive. And then some were saying, like, I tried to mix it in applesauce and it wasn't really working. And what was really interesting is that on Christmas, like a few days before Christmas, we were getting ready to travel to my parents house and it was a sleepless night. Our baby, like your baby at the time was like five months old. And so sleep was not a thing that we were doing then. And I woke up at like 4 in the morning and I had this idea of like, you know those yogurt melts that you buy from the store? Like it'd be really cool if you had a beef liver yogurt melt that you could just give to your kids, like breakfast, like with breakfast, like treat it like an actual supplement. And so I had that idea and I was like, I don't know if people will go for this, but I knew I would make them for my three little boys who don't take pills yet. And so I bought a harvest right machine. I bought like the big Daddy. And I started again going on Instagram live and just sharing with my audience what I was doing. I was literally like making little yogurt drops on trays and it was slow. But what was really cool is I started like, I showed them the product and I kind of brought my audience along with what I was making. And they were all like, are you going to sell those? Because we want some of those. So I had some local people asking me like, hey, can I come by and buy some of those beef liver yogurt melts? Because I want to see if it works for my kid. I want to see if it keeps them a little bit healthier. And the eczema conversation came up and so I was like, sure. And the thing is, I could make 17 bags a day with one machine. And so I was like, I get 250 bags in one month. And I would sell, I would put them onto my email list and they were gone in three minutes.
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Unknown
Yeah, sold out.
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Leslie Burris
Like, moms were like, my kids are just putting them in their mouth and they're feeling really good. They're not having to mix up applesauce or try to coerce their kids. Like they were actually eating them. And so one thing led to another and I thought to myself, like, well, what would it be like to bring a product to market? Like if, if this was market testing time, it seemed like I had a viable product, which I've never been. You know, we talk about that in the entrepreneurial space, but like you and I, I love digital stuff. I love, you know, creating things. And I'd never done an actual physical product and actually had a lot of people tell me, like, don't do food, don't do anything. And I was like, oh, okay. So I did the opposite. And I asked myself, like, how could I bring this to market in a clean, like, fda, like check the box kind of situation? And so that does sound overwhelming. But here's what's really crazy, Lisa, is that we bought this property a few years ago in Oklahoma and it had this huge barn in the back and we had. It was just like rat infested, like our. It was like a glorified home for our lawnmower. So it wasn't really being used. We're actually going to put our house back on the market and sell it. And then we didn't. We took it off the market. And you and I were kind of texting about this. Like, we kind of, we kind of just got everything ready and then we just pulled back and said, like, what if we just invested here? And that's when I started having the question of like, what would it look like to have a commercial kitchen? One thing led to another. Now we have a fully functioning commercial kitchen. And I have it set up in such a way where I can teach like 4h small business classes for kids and homeschool so like they can peek in the window and they can learn how the product is made and they can see how it's packaged. So it's really handmade, hand packed, organic, grass fed grass, finished beef liver, baby bites. I have some here just to show the audience what they look like, but they're literally like those little yogurt melts.
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Unknown
Oh yeah. So cute.
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Leslie Burris
And they're handmade. And you and I both know we love that handmade feel. Like I love going to those country stores and things like that. And so we're actually just in our grand opening phase. The kitchen is now ready and it's ready to go. And we had a couple businesses local here that are stocking them on their shelves. And so it was really one of those things that I had not on my radar. It was like, let's buy one machine. And now we have five and a fully operational commercial kitchen. So I'm excited and I also am like, I don't know where this is going, you know? Yeah, I'm just kind of taking it one day at a time and making a really simple product for moms to get beef liver into their kids daily routine.
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Unknown
Well, and it's nice to know for those who are thinking about possibly wanting to earn an income from home, that you don't always have to have all the pieces spelled out. That's another thing you talk a lot about is with, like, your social media growth. You do it opposite of what other people do. You're like, I don't niche down. I don't plan content. Which, to be honest, is, like, completely the opposite of what I told everybody.
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Leslie Burris
That on the Live today because I've seen your, like, trello board and, like, you know, you're like. Which is great.
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Unknown
Different than how I do things.
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Leslie Burris
It just shows you that.
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Unknown
But it works for you, right?
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Leslie Burris
Right. Yeah, I definitely do more of an intuitive thing. But, yeah, it's. It's. It really is just one foot in front of the other. I know sometimes we want to, like, know the outcome and know every step. And it's been a roller coaster. I'm not going to lie. It's not been easy. But in other ways, the market testing has been fun for me because as an entrepreneur, I've never done anything like this. And. And we really had a heart to work together as a family and have a family business. And so now my kids are working together.
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Unknown
Yeah, it's a very tangible thing for them to do, you know, Very tangible.
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Leslie Burris
They actually have to, like, wash dishes, and, you know, they get paid for it. And so I actually watched a podcast episode you did with the Elderberry family where they're making, like, elderberry syrup, and I just thought that was so good. Cause they were talking about things that they were doing, and they kind of followed that same avenue of like, well, we. We're just gonna try it and see what happens. And. And it's really. It's really fun. And so if you. If you're thinking about doing anything like this, I would say just start with what you have. Start small and just one foot in front of the other.
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Unknown
Yeah, well, so you guys work as a family, and that in itself presents some unique challenges that I think that a lot of people want that life. And it's more possible now than it was in the past. Like, when my parents had a family business, that meant my mom and my dad went to a place and they worked really hard. I mean, not that obviously, we worked very hard, too, but it's a physical kind of work that they had to do. And, you know, they had to be out of the house. We had to go our separate ways. And today there's a lot of different. Like, you and I, we have very different businesses from each other, but yet with the same goal in mind. And a lot of people are pursuing that same thing in a lot of different ways. And there's, like, a lot of experts Trying to keep up with it, like, oh, you know, like I have all this advice yet, but in truth, there's just a lot of different ways that you can do it. There's a lot of opportunities. So. Yeah. What are some unique challenges that that presents and then what are some unique benefits of working together as a family?
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Leslie Burris
Well, I mean, I would say the challenge is, you know, our oldest is 13 and our youngest is 1. And so we still have nap time, but we also have big kids. I think you and I hit on this on our last conversation where I really feel like I have two sets of children. I have, you know, preschool and younger, and then I have the big kids who are interested in big kid activities. So they.
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Unknown
I feel like I now have three, like.
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Leslie Burris
Oh, you have like.
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Unknown
No, I mean, like I have the 16 and 14 year old girls and then there's like the middle boys and there's like the little boys, you know.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, it really is, it's really interesting. So I would say that the unique challenges is we, we homeschool. And so, you know, we have people say, like, it would be so nice to be able to sleep in and not get up and move. But I'm like, you can't really do that when you're running this big of an operation. It does require you still to like, get up and have a plan for the day. It feels like we're really running multiple businesses because the home functions like a business in and of itself has overhead. It's like a restaurant. You know, you gotta have the fridge stocked, you gotta have a meal plan.
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Unknown
Yeah, fridge stuffed, right?
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, it really is. It's like running a restaurant. And so the challenges is like just keeping up with both. Like, we now have two kitchens to clean, right. And then, and then we also have to do schooling and things like that. So I would say the challenges is just learning how to schedule and also being okay emotionally with being different from other families because it really is like, are we doing the right thing? Is kind of like. Because it's just so different than even some of my own friends where they're doing the more traditional thing. I would say that maybe in the more homeschool community, it's like the dad goes to work and then the mom is home doing all those things where we have both me and my husband. And so it's like you have the traditional nine to five where all the family, like you said, splits apart. Everybody goes to school, everybody goes to work, and then we all come together and do dinner and all that stuff. And Then you have the other lifestyle, which is like mom is running the, running the small business at home and dad's bringing in all the income. And that has its own unique challenges. But then to have this like, other sliver of lifestyle is like you're kind of the odd duck.
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Unknown
Yes.
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Leslie Burris
You know, and so that's a unique challenge just emotionally to say, yeah, we're in full responsibility of our choices and we don't know how this is going to turn out. You know, we're, we're like 100 years into the Industrial revolution. And so that's different. Like, we're almost like doing a return back to what used to be, which was families working together in their home.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
And it's very interesting. So it's kind of like you don't fit in either camp, but that's okay too. I think it does inspire, like you said. I think there are a lot of people who are wanting to be a family unit and they want to be together. They don't want to be separated so much during the day, which I would say that's the unique benefit. Right. Is like my 13 year old actually said to me recently, she's like, I can't wait to get married and I want me and my husband to be together all the time. I want us to work together all the time. And I just thought, like, that's a really unique benefit because she's really. She's getting a totally different frame of mind for how her family's gonna function just from what she's growing up in now. And so that's a benefit. And also, you know, there are days when people get sick and we just tend to that. We don't have to call in, we don't have to put anybody out. It's just like, maybe our day is out. But that's such a, it's such a benefit because my husband and I will say, I'm glad it's you that's sick and not me, and vice versa. And like, we're, we're a team. I'm not trying to do this thing by myself. And so that in and of itself is really, really a great unique benefit, in my opinion.
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Unknown
It is. Stuff can really slow down if it needs to, like if there is a sickness or if the weather's insane, which. This comes out, it's springtime, so it's going to be warm. Right. Like always and forever, all the way until next November. I always think that around, like, probably May when we're like very securely past any cold. I'm Like, I don't have to worry about this until late October. Yeah. But, yeah, the flexibility of getting to be able to change the day up. Like, just for an example, our house is under construction right now, and we had to meet yesterday with somebody over there to do concrete. And then we're meeting for another reason tomorrow. And so we're in a unique life phase that won't be here forever next year this time and probably forevermore, we will never be building again. So, you know, it allows us to have flexibility during seasons where we prioritize something that will not normally be that same priority. And so it's. It's very flexible. And that's.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah. When you're, when you're loading everybody up in the van and you're going to and from. For the property, like, you. You do end up looking back on that time and saying, like, wow, I can't believe we. How we did that. And it really is, It's. It really is a season or an era of its own, and it doesn't last forever, you know, but yeah, yeah, just like winter is leaving, we're like, please leave faster. You know, like, seasons do end and praise God for.
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Unknown
Well, I was telling my husband, it's funny because next year I'll look back at the photos of, you know, because you're in Oklahoma, so you're not far from me. We got so much more snow this year than we've gotten.
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Leslie Burris
Same.
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Unknown
Yeah. So many years. And I'll look back and I'll think, oh, it's so pretty, the snow and the ice. And look at the ice skating photos and the videos of us, like, sledding and skating right now.
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Leslie Burris
Send the romantic content creator, like, finding beauty and everything. It's always fun to look back. But then you're like, do you remember all the boots and all the tears years and all that?
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Unknown
Well, it doesn't help that I create videos in that way. So when I look back at them, I believe it too, you know, 100%. It was so lovely. I loved every part of it. I mean, what's the point in being super negative about it, I guess. But totally, yeah, it's a season and it's flexible. But you, you know, you and I both like to get to the point where we could work together as a family. There's some years where that couldn't be possible. Like, you can't just quit your job without having a, you know, something that's already working. So I don't, I don't remember if we talked about this last time. Or not. But what did that look like for you as a stay at home mom, trying to build something so that, you know, you guys could achieve this goal that you set out, presumably before that happened?
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, that's a great question. And I've actually reflected on this a lot because I, I, I help a lot of other people grow their online audience so that they can get to this place too. Like again, that desire is really there. And to be quite honest with you, we have lived the hybrid 9 to 5 for a few years. I would say that there were actually times where it wasn't. Like, I know when you shared your story, you said, you know, when we brought, when you brought your husband home, when you guys decided to work together as a family, there were things secured in place that you could do that. We haven't paid off our mortgage and we haven't done that yet. So it was a lot of false starts and stops. There were times where my husband would come home and we would try it and it would be way too overwhelming for me and so he would go back to work. And we did that probably three times over the last seven years. And so I would say to anybody who is wanting to get into this lifestyle, if you have false starts and stops, like that's okay. It really just like even filing taxes is completely different when you're in a 9 to 5 versus a self employment. And that when you're not used to that, it takes time to adjust and that might mean you'll start and you'll stop and you'll start and you'll stop. So for those of you guys who are like, oh man, we were doing so good, but then my husband had to go back to work. Don't let that mean anything negative, that you're doing anything wrong. I would tell you as somebody who is, you know, if we had to do that and send my husband back to work tomorrow, we would, we would make it work. But it is a lot of kind of straddling the fence between those, those two worlds of, you know, nine to five versus a self sustained growing family together. Which is another reason why LB's was so lucrative for us. Because when we looked at our budget and things like that, we were looking for other avenues that didn't require. It was kind of more of our asset, not just promoting other companies and me having no control over any of the things. And so this really did put some ownership in our pocket. And when we ran the numbers, we thought this could be really something for us that would keep him from having to Go back to that nine to five. And so it took a few years. Honestly, it was. It was back and forth a few times. And.
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Unknown
Yeah, I mean, you seem to just, like, really. What's the word I'm looking for? Fearlessly jump into things. Like, you know, and that's the same way with the way you pursue your social media. Like, you've had live throughout your entire labors, which, for those who don't yet know about Leslie Varys, you had three babies. Yeah. Like, you've documented, you know, live from start to finish. Right now you're. I don't know if I need to catch up on it, but you've been talking about your fertility journey, and so I do feel like you kind of fearlessly approach life, which some people have. No, we all have different ways of how we pursue things. And. Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah. You know, I actually am. I come from a long line of worry warts. I feel like.
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Unknown
Oh, yeah, that's the whole point of your podcast.
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Leslie Burris
I really do. I actually am really afraid, however, I think when I'm making a calculated decision. So I have a really strategic mind. So if my husband says, like, hey, I want to go to Hawaii in April, I'm going to be like, 700 different paths to how we're going to get there. And I'm going to say, there's no way we can make that happen because I'm just like, strategically, it just clicks in my brain. And so it may seem like I'm risky, but I also really. I see 17 steps ahead, and I kind of work myself backwards. And so when I think about probability and outcomes, the risks that I am taking, they are calculated, though they look a little reckless. And that's okay. I mean, but I do. My husband is, you know, he's in the room with me now. He'll tell. He'll tell you. She's the most worrywart that I know. Like, I'm. I can. Because I can see some of those outcomes, and I don't know how it's going to. Which outcome it's going to land on. It's kind of like the game of Plinko on the Price is Right.
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Unknown
Right.
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Leslie Burris
Dropping the desk and one of the nine lanes is going to be where we land. But I would also say one of my biggest ways that I make a decision, especially risky decisions, is will I regret looking back when I'm 90, that I didn't do it right? So it's like the pain of regret has to come to the table. And so, you know, I. I think that that really matters. And like, let's say the worst thing that can happen is, you know, we. My audience actually, and this is why I help people grow an online audience. They're the reason my. My commercial kitchen exists. Like, we had investors come in and they're like, we believe in you. We want to partner with you. We want to do, like, we want to see you succeed. And so I say that because when I think about the worst that could happen, it's like, okay, let's say I'm out a quarter of a million dollars and this whole thing goes down. That's the worst that could happen is like, I'm looking. And then like, the worst that could happen is everybody writes me a one star review on Shopify and says, this is the worst product we've ever had. Or, you know, like, LB is the worst. And I. And I think about that and I'm like, okay, well, those are. That's pretty heavy. And then I think to myself, well, what if it works?
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Unknown
What's the best that could happen?
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Leslie Burris
Right? And somewhere in the middle of the best, which is like, we, you know, we pay off our investors in a year, we own it outright. You know, we're, you know, we're bringing in great revenue and people love it. And then we're having, you know, I've already been approached by some manufacturing companies who are like, let's get you in Whole Foods or let's see. And I'm like, well, let's do some more market testing first. But what if it goes well? And what if it's a. What if. It's a. What if this product is something that actually sets our family up for a legacy income for generations to come.
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Unknown
Right.
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Leslie Burris
So you have to kind of look at both ends, right?
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Unknown
Yeah, you can't. You have to take risks for that, those kind of things to even be even in the realm of possibility.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah. So your daughter plays guitar, right? Or did. So with the guitar, you have the tension of the string. Like, you have to tune it, and it has to pull from two different ends in order to get a really beautiful note. And so that tension is the. Is your life. Like, it could go really great and be the best thing that ever happened to me, or this could be the absolutely worst thing that can happen to me. And I would say all of life is lived in the tension that makes music. And so if you can be, you know, again, it's like calculated risk. And so, yeah, I can see how some people would be like, lb. I do move fast. I don't I think doubt inactivity increases doubt.
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Unknown
So if you're thinking about 100%, yes.
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Leslie Burris
If you think about doing something but then you don't act on it, the doubt that it's going to work only increases. So I'm, you know, like the good old John Maxwell says, like, do it fast, do it now. Just do it. Like, launch your podcast now. It takes two seconds to start your YouTube channel, get your microphone out, set your phone up, and, like, do it now because you can always add a beautiful mic, you can always build a studio later, you can always do those things later. But don't delay the first step and doing what you can do and be faithful with what you're doing right in this moment, with what you. You have. And so that's. That's kind of my MO on social media too, is I like to kind of push people along to say, like, how can you do this now? Because you don't just wake up one day and have a whole small business in your backyard. It usually starts with one thing that you're faithful with that you try, and then one thing leads to another. And so, yeah, it looks risky and it looks crazy. And to be fair, though, with the whole online birth, I did that. I knew. So I grew up watching a baby story on tlc. Did you ever watch that show?
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Unknown
Oh, heck yes. Dating story, wedding story, baby story, 100%.
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Leslie Burris
Like, that was. Loved it pretty much our YouTube channels now.
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Unknown
Like, when we were 15, 14, 13, that's what we were watching.
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Leslie Burris
Right.
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Unknown
And so when did that come out? I don't even remember.
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Leslie Burris
I was a.
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Unknown
We were like, if I was driving, I wouldn't have been at home watching TLC 100%.
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Leslie Burris
There's no way. But yeah, I. I just remember seeing, you know, they show you the, you know, with. Especially with birth, you either get like the really dramatic highlight reels of, like, this is what happened. I ended up with, you know, whatever. And this is like, bad, bad, bad. Or it's like super glorified, where it's like so beautiful that people are like, what is that even possible? And so I, Because I had been through home birth before, I knew that if I. I wish I could have watched someone from start to finish. I wish I could have seen somebody move through and see the slow process. And I wanted people to make an educated decision based off of all the birth, not just the highlight reel. Right. So that was my motivation. I. It was kind of like a baby story on steroids, I guess, is what I mean.
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Unknown
Like, we can live stream now, kind of. Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, it was crazy. The amazing outcome of that, by the way, was, you know, we didn't know Covid was going to happen. We didn't know things were going to shut down and do that. And so a lot of women actually chose home birth. And my first birth that I did was pre pandemic time. And so they actually had felt comfortable doing a home birth because they had seen that. And so when they had to pivot, they had some evidence that it might actually turn out okay, and they can do it. And so that's why I did it. I really wanted women to be educated. And again, it's just like, you know, is there risk? Could my baby die when I'm giving birth in front of 3,000, 4,000 people?
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Unknown
So that's the kind of things you actually think about here. I'm like, you're so fearless, Leslie. Like, you just go for it.
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Leslie Burris
And you're like, I can't relate it.
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Unknown
What happens if my baby dies on camera?
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, just. Just like I was telling you about the building. It's the same thing. Like, what's the worst that could happen? I could die. My baby could die. It would be well documented. My midwife could be sued. You know, like, yeah, that's fair.
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Unknown
That's probably the things that would go through my head if I did that a hundred percent.
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Leslie Burris
And so, again, it's that tension. It's like, here's the worst that could happen. Here's the best that could happen. And somewhere something would land in the middle. And so it ended up being really good. A lot of women have had. Have come back and said, I'm so glad that you shared that with me, because they got a totally different look at birth than what they even had ever imagined.
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Unknown
So, yeah, yeah, I've been. I've been told by people that I'm fearless as well. And it's funny when you are told that because you know the internal dialogue that actually happens in your head, and you're like, I don't know who you're looking at, but I actually think of all the things. Even though maybe it appears that I just go. And I constantly talking about this. Like, in my course groups, you were saying that inactivity actually makes you. What? I don't remember what you said, but I talk about all the time. Like, you just have to go because it feeds you. This is never gonna work. You're gonna rethink it. I can do that still. Like, I have to get out a video a week because I have a sponsor I have a content schedule at this point to keep up with. And I always have this one. We're like, oh, I don't know what to film.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah.
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Unknown
And I was like, well, I have to film today. Like, it's not like, I better just film me sweeping the floor. Because, yeah, there's an option at this point. Like, I have to film something. And so then guess what camera comes on. Yeah, I film something stupid. I have to turn into something kind of pretty ish. Because there's no option. And so you just have to go.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah. And I think, too, and I'm sure you can relate to this. That whole, like, I don't know what to do. It's just your brain being lazy. Like, I don't feel like doing this right now.
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Unknown
Absolutely. Yeah, it is 100%.
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Leslie Burris
Just, like, I don't feel. I never feel like doing the dishes. Like, I never wake up. I'm so excited to wash, you know, nine sets of dishes twice, three times, four times a day. Because I have big kids who make their own meals now. And so it's more dishes odd hours. And they want to make like yours. Mine are baking now, so, like, making all the treats and stuff. And so I never want to do it, but I do know that. And I think that this came from Atomic Habits. In all my spare time, I read all these books. Just kidding. But they said, like, if you just set the timer for five minutes and just do something for five minutes, things in motion stay in motion.
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Unknown
They absolutely do.
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Leslie Burris
So you get that camera rolling, and you're like, all right, sweeping. I don't feel like doing this.
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Unknown
And then you're like, the thought of, like, doing it, that's hard. But then, like, when I go start going, it's no big deal. It's not like this really hard thing that I'm like, oh, it's gonna be a terrible day. Once I'm going, I'm good to go. It's just like getting yourself just to stop thinking and start doing is a lot of times the hardest part of all of it.
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Leslie Burris
And then you get that awesome relief when you, like, put your YouTube video in the scheduler and everything's done and it's, like, ready to go. And you're like.
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Unknown
I'm like, yay, I'm going to film again tomorrow. Because that took a week and now we're square one again. But, yeah. Yeah, pretty much. I had the realization the other day that because I've. We've done a lot of, like, quote unquote, risky things, like, we Started a business. My husband quit his job. Like, we bought a farm, like, all this stuff. But I. The other day, I was like, man, I think, like. And I had a lot of children. There we go. Like, that's another thing that you're just kind of feeling like, this is gonna work out. Like, because everybody, you know, thinks, you know, 18 years from now, like, how am I gonna pay for this? How am I gonna pay for that? Yeah. So we've done a lot of risky things, but the other day I was like, man, I think one of the risk. Not riskiest, but, like, the scariest projects I've ever undertaken is actually this house build that we're working on. Yeah. It just dawned on me. I'm like, this could turn out like you're buying something that you've never seen. And I have very high expectations for it. And so I'm like, this is probably one of the more riskier things I've tried. Like, just buying a property already done with no decisions to be made, is actually.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah.
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Unknown
Very safe choice.
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Leslie Burris
Well, when you get into a house, you have just this gift of walking into each room and saying, like, this is what's gonna go here, and this is what's gonna. Well, right now you're talking about proverbial rooms in your home.
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Unknown
Exactly. Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
So, yeah, I can imagine that that would be a little bit more difficult. But I totally believe that once you get into that bare room and you start seeing those walls go up, that you're gonna. That creativity is gonna come for you.
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Unknown
Well, I'm probably in the thinking part too much. Like, I've thought about it way too much for there not being any walls yet. I think that's kind of full circle back to what we were talking about earlier, like, overthinking and not just acting and doing. And, like, I've started to get to that point with this where I'll come across, like, this certain company that does this certain thing. And I'm like, well, maybe I should weigh out all the options. I'm like, no, just that. You liked it. Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
You liked it. That's go. Like, you gotta go back to that. Yeah, yeah.
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Unknown
You can't. You gotta just, like, the decisions that were already made, take confidence in them and then another step forward. It's kind of how I approach. Been approaching this at least more lately and less of the thinking. And I think that kind of can be applied to, like, all this stuff we're talking about.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, totally. And even when you're choosing, like, flooring and stuff, like, I Know, we want it to last 20 years, but we're also human beings who get bored. So, like, true.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
In 10 years, you could be like, I really don't like that. And so, like, I think, again, I see people actually hesitating to make decisions because they feel like they have to make it last for a long time or they have to love it forever.
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Unknown
Yes.
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Leslie Burris
And the truth is. So this is another thing when it comes to my social media, too, is like, I get bored. That's why I will not niche myself. I don't want to be boxing.
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Unknown
Because you'll quit, right. Like, if you can't, I have to like it. Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
You know, and I just. I know that, like, every single person has such amazing value, and they have all these incredible, unique, niched stories. And so the way I think about social media and just life in general is I know that I can just go pull a book off the shelf and hand it to someone in my audience. And the algorithms also are just incredible today. So we can be less keyword search oriented now, which is great. But same with decision making. It's like, yeah, like, I chose this wallpaper. I love this wallpaper. But I totally think in a year when I'm about to have another baby, I might tear that thing down and buy some new wallpaper. So, like, there will be resources and time for that too. And so I think just giving people room to be fluid in their decisions and say, like, I don't have to make this work forever. I can change this up and freshen it up. And you're so good at that. When you're talking about refreshing, you know, your pantry or your closet or whatever, you're just like, I'm bored, and I don't like the way that that looks. And I'm just gonna, you know, do something to it to spruce it up a bit. And we're always doing that in our own lives. We rearrange furniture. We get new drapes. We, you know, we. We freshen things up. And I just think that when you're making decisions, any decisions, you have to take your humanity into account when you're making those decisions and saying, like, this doesn't have to be the perfect thing. It might not be the perfect thing, you know?
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Unknown
Yeah. So that's where, like, most of the doubt and the overthinking comes from, is overestimating how big of a decision it is that we're making. Like. Like a wallpaper. Like, I remember choosing one wallpaper in my. Like, the stairway going up at our last House.
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Leslie Burris
And I love that green wallpaper.
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Unknown
It was pretty. But the amount of time that I spent thinking about that, like, it was as if this was, like, the most important decision I've ever made in my life.
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Leslie Burris
And like I said, there's some expensive wallpaper out there.
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Unknown
That's true.
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Leslie Burris
I mean, you. You talk about drapes being expensive. I go to anthropology.com and look up their wallpaper because they got $300 rolls over there.
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Unknown
Oh, wow. Yeah, it's. It's true. Yeah. Maybe it is that big of a decision. Maybe we should worry about it.
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Leslie Burris
We should start worrying about wallpaper right now.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
Speaking of which, I'm going to actually interview you here for a second.
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Unknown
Go ahead.
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Leslie Burris
Like, we're in, like, that wallpaper era. Are you going to wallpaper the mess out of your new house?
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Unknown
I don't think I am. So we did that one wallpaper. I was obsessed. I thought it was the prettiest thing. Like, it completely transformed this space. It made it, like, look grand, and it really highlighted the staircase. But wallpaper and kids, like, it's just. We had somebody, like, instantly had a grease hand go, I don't know what was on their butter. I don't know. But grease fingers, and that doesn't come out. So I realized I was worried about the wallpaper. Whereas, like, with paint, I'm never worried about it because you can just paint right over it. And so probably not. I'm sure I'll do some. Like, there'll be probably some spaces I'll have some fun with, but I'm not going to wallpaper every last bit of it. No.
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Leslie Burris
Okay, so you're a paint person.
- [39:26]
Unknown
That's just because I'm. I don't want. I don't like stuff in my house I have to worry about, you know.
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Leslie Burris
Or if the upkeep is too much, which. This is something that you said on one of your. I think it was one of your videos when you said you have to count the cost of what it takes to tend to the thing that you're buying. And I think that that's such wisdom because, you know, I. I bought one of those roborock mops. I love it. It's great. I use three times a day, but it's kind of a beast to maintain. And it's like a little, like, robot circle.
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Unknown
Robot vacuum.
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Leslie Burris
No, it's like a regular. It's like a regular mop back. Okay. The self cleaning feature doesn't work very good. Plus, you have kids and all these things, but you have to take into account, like, can I take care of a regular mop and bucket a lot easier? Like, do I have the time to tend to the thing that I'm purchasing and bringing into my home?
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Unknown
Yes.
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Leslie Burris
And so that's what I think when you say, like, I worry about wallpaper, what you're saying is, I don't want to have to tend to that. I want to put it in and forget about it, you know, because you can, like I said, you can wash a wall that's made, that's maintainable.
- [40:31]
Unknown
You don't want to have to worry that if a kid runs upstairs with, like, chocolate over their face, like, ideally, we stay at the table with that kind of stuff. But when you have as many kids as you and I have, does that mean that that's not going to happen? It's going to happen.
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Leslie Burris
It's going to happen.
- [40:45]
Unknown
Or somebody's going to run upstairs with muddy boots. They're just going to do it. And so I have to definitely consider all of that.
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Leslie Burris
But yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. I just, you know, I think with. When you're tending to anything, you have to count the cost. And again, some people will say, like, that's why I don't jump in, because it's going to require too much of me, too. Which. That's a whole other conversation probably for another day. But. But yeah, it's. I'm really excited to see how your space turns out, and I'm really excited to see you level up your creativity, you know, because I know you're. Again, you're used to, like, going into a space and making it beautiful, but this is like, this is different. This is from scratch. It's from scratch.
- [41:26]
Unknown
Yeah. I have a newfound respect for people who build stuff because. And I already did. I already knew that building would be really hard. I was never going to do it, but for very many reasons, it makes sense for us. But, man, yeah, it's. It's a whole different beast.
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Lisa
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Unknown
We just never get around to taking.
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Lisa
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Stove behind you because that's one of the things I'm thinking about is like what kind of stove are we going to do this one? I thought it was black, but it's still your red one. Oh yeah, it was just the way the light was. I was like did you? Because I know you found another one. I was like did you replace yours? But no, it's the same one.
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Leslie Burris
I have another one. Maybe you should buy it from me?
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Lisa
No.
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Unknown
Oh, you still. You still have it, huh?
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Leslie Burris
I still have it. So we're like you. So we just finished building all that out there, so I'm gonna take a breather. But our goal in 2026, which I think this was one of the questions that people had asked.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
About us staying in Oklahoma. One of the reasons we were going to move is that this house was just too. It's just too small. It's 1600 square feet and there's nine of us here. So it's.
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Unknown
Right. That is small.
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Leslie Burris
It is small. But we're talking about breaking ground and putting on an addition here in 2026. And so I have another AGA. Ideally. And truthfully, when you have this many kids, having two next to each other is really amazing. But, you know, we. We also. These are collector's items, I think, about my kids. It was given to us for free the other aga, and it was just a matter of going and picking it up and bringing it home. And so I couldn't. I couldn't pass that up. And so. It's beautiful. It'll look great in a beautiful brand new kitchen and we'll see. See how it goes. But I absolutely. Listen, I will sell you the stove all day long. My kids cook all the time. Even my 5 year old makes himself fried eggs. And he doesn't. I don't have to worry about him burning himself or anything like that. He's just not playing with fire. He's just cooking. And that's great.
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Unknown
Yes. Okay.
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Leslie Burris
So have you.
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Unknown
Do you have any information or insight on the electric ones? Because the reason I'm asking is the way our plans are, it's not. My range won't be on an exterior wall and there isn't really a good way to change it, except for like moving my sink, which I don't want to do because I like the view and all this stuff. So do you know anything? Like, are the electric ones as cool or do they not have the same benefits?
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Leslie Burris
Well, I think they function the same. I think that they run all the time, but with the. I mean, there's pros and cons to everything. So, like, if your electric goes out, unless you have a generator, you're without a stove. So obviously with Pro Pagan, what's really great. So, like, we had that cold snap and we had ice, so I was afraid we're gonna lose power. And you know when it's 2 degrees outside and you don't. We don't have a generator. And so the idea of this still being on. Like, I just had a plan that we would huddle up and sleep on the floor in the kitchen if we had to, because she's just so warm and cozy. So that's the benefit of having propane, but with electricity. The benefit also is if you wanted to shut it off, you can. I mean, I can shut this off and it's no big deal to turn it back on, but, you know, I don't know the cost benefits. I don't know the. I don't know the difference between the two. I. I'm not. I think the one that we got is another propane, but it might have. It might have a convert kit to it. I'm not sure. So I. I don't know. I think, again, it's what you want it to do. It's what you. It's how you want it to function in your home. It's how for us. I just love that everybody can use, like, whenever we go to an Airbnb, the first thing out of all of our mouths is like, man, I miss Ruby. We don't use a microwave, and this is just so fast, like pancakes. I can whip up batter right now and it's hot. I don't have to touch anything. It's just lift the lid and go. And so I. I love it. And. But for the technical stuff, I'm not sure, but if you could do.
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Unknown
Okay. I was just curious.
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Leslie Burris
I don't know if you have propane out on your land, but, yeah, we will.
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Unknown
It's the venting that's going to be the issue, because it's on an interior wall.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah.
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Unknown
And so if I switch the sink and don't have my sink, I don't know why, but I picture me, like, looking out while doing dishes. That's what I always imagine. So around the sink, we, like, plan the entire house around my sink view. Like, the whole thing, like, swapped where the kitchen was, like, on the west side of the house. Like, we did all this. And I'm like, can I still see? Like, we're. We're also doing a barn. And I'm like, well, will I be able to see past from my kitchen window? Like, that's what this whole thing has been about.
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Leslie Burris
Yes.
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Unknown
So I'm like, I don't know where I could possibly do that now.
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Leslie Burris
Well, I will say the other one that I have doesn't have. So this is the flu, which I.
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Unknown
Think is so charming. I love the flu.
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Leslie Burris
It is. It is really beautiful. But the other one that we have Actually doesn't have. It has a vent that goes across the back here, so it doesn't have a flu. So that keeps it from having to be on the wall for ventilation purposes. So it does. It does have a vent that just.
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Unknown
Interesting. Goes into the house. Okay. Something to consider. I'm at the point where we have to make all these decisions because, yeah, we're getting, like, the cabinetry figured out right now. And so the exact dimensions of the stove. I thought that was, like, you know, that I didn't think about it. Like, that's the thing about this building is, like, putting the pieces in place. And so I was like, okay, well, you know, I'll pick my stove. And it's time to put the stove in the kitchen. I'm like, you need to know your stove yesterday. Because we're designing the cabinets that'll take six months or whatever to build, so we have the dimensions. And so I'm just like, okay, this is very.
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Leslie Burris
I will say. Listen. I will say bougie isn't always better. I have a friend who has one of those fancy, fancy ovens with all the little knobs that look like bathtub.
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Unknown
Yes, I know one. Come on.
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Leslie Burris
And she says, I don't know what it's called. Maybe I think. Oh, what's her name? Elliot Homestead. I think she has one.
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Unknown
Oh, you're talking about the La Conche. That's one of my top considerations. Tell me about it.
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Leslie Burris
Well, I have a friend who has one. Like, she spent 10, $12,000 on it.
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Unknown
And more than that, which is why I'm like, I don't know if it.
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Leslie Burris
Was, like, a Marketplace thing or. Yeah, but.
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Unknown
Yeah, definitely got a lot of these searches in Marketplace, because that's. Yeah, but. Sorry, Go.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, I love. I'm a huge Marketplace. Marketplace fan. But she was saying, like, she had bought this Airbnb rental and it had, you know, just your basic janky stove, nothing fancy, a little ge. And she was like, I like that thing better than I like my fancy one at home.
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Unknown
So what's the reason? So, you know, of course, I'm drawn to just, like, it being more beautiful because, like, in my current house that I live in, in between, we just have a standard. I don't know if they're $500 from Lowe's probably White oven. It's. You know, it works great. Like, my last oven was a vintage from the. From 1949. We had it restored, but the. Something came loose with the hinge, and so the door no longer shut. I had to Wedge something into between the doors to keep the doors shut for the heat not to escape.
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Leslie Burris
Sounds really safe.
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Unknown
Yeah, yeah, it's great. I put paper in there, I really did, and I couldn't find anybody to fix it. Like, my guy who'd done it before was like, we can't get those parts. And I'm like, well, great. So now, like, this thing is completely not worthless, but pretty much like, nobody else would want it. And so my current oven, it works great. No complaints. Like, it's just a cheap oven. It's just the fire comes on, you know, stuff goes in, the temperature holds. Like, my last oven, I got used to how it cooks, which it didn't hold the right temperature. And so I, you know, I was used to how it works. But I agree, like, it works great, but I want, like, I want the aesthetic beautiful and function, and that's where it's like, okay, if the La Conch isn't as great as it sounds like it is. Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
Where.
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Unknown
Where do people go?
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Leslie Burris
I don't know. Yeah, I mean, where's the middle of the road?
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Unknown
I mean, beautiful, obviously.
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Leslie Burris
Oh, yeah. I mean, it's definitely, you know, it really is a antique piece. I mean, this one, this one's 30 years old. I think the other one is 96. 1996. So I think they're. I think they were both built and manufactured the same year. And so it is a. It is a timeless piece for sure. But I know you'll find the right thing. I know you'll. You'll land the plane. I just, I, I again, I have a couple friends who, who have them, and they were like, we really like the cheap, janky ovens that seem to work in other places.
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Unknown
And so I did, like, a Reddit search, and I had people say that you can't get the flame low enough to do, like, a light simmer, which I'm like, well, that's interesting. Did she mention that Reddit is where.
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Leslie Burris
You want to go for all the negative reviews? I'm proud of you. I'd never seen you as a Reddit girl.
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Unknown
Well, I hate Reddit because it's where you get negative reviews on people too. But, yeah, I know.
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Leslie Burris
I never searched my name on Reddit. Don't do it. Never.
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Unknown
As far as stoves, like, if you want the bad, the ugly, like, you put in the stove you're thinking about, and then you put in red and just. Yeah. And, you know, you get. You get all the opinions, so I don't know. But again, this is another one of those things that's like, this isn't the final decision of all time for life.
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Leslie Burris
So there you go.
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Unknown
It kind of is, though, because what if we build the cabinets around it? Sorry. Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
I mean. Okay, so then. Then you have to ask yourself, are there two ovens with the same dimensions that if I had to pick.
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Unknown
Well, exactly. We're talking mere inches. I think one could retrofit if one makes the wrong decision.
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Leslie Burris
So, yeah, we just get Luke on it. He'll be fine. He got this.
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Unknown
Okay, so let's see here. I want to see some of the audience questions that people wanted to know.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, let's do it.
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Unknown
Why did they ask if you're planning on staying in Oklahoma since you started Elby's? I don't know what about that would change your. That situation, but I guess you already answered that you are staying in Oklahoma because now.
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Leslie Burris
For now, I. Yeah, for now. We're. We're talking about that. I think what people are asking is, like, now that you've built this commercial kitchen, is this where you're going to live and breathe for the next 20?
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Unknown
Okay.
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Leslie Burris
And so I would say, you know, I. I understand that. That logic, too.
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Unknown
That makes sense.
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Leslie Burris
I do have a lot of. I do have a lot of friends who are Okies here who would really like for us to stay. It's really fun getting to know people here in Oklahoma. But again, it's one of those. I hold things so loosely. My kids love Arizona and I love Michigan, and so I. Wherever I am, I. I never really feel like I'm at home anyway. So.
- [54:19]
Unknown
Okay.
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Leslie Burris
Oklahoma is beautiful. The. The people are really kind, and it's a really unique space. So for now, I would say yes. But also, you know me, I could just wake up tomorrow and be like, we're moving to Hawaii. And people would be like, are you crazy? I say yes.
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Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. Well, so, yes, tentatively, yes, but you just never, never know.
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Leslie Burris
Just hold your hands open loosely. That's what I say. Just. Just let it sit there.
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Unknown
And I think that's okay. I definitely have that personality, too, which is why I shock people when twice on social media, I move from what they deem to be the most perfect place ever on earth. You know, because as content creators, we don't share everything, you know, we just do not. And so it's. Yeah, I hold it loosely, too, because you just never know.
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Leslie Burris
You never know. You gotta hold. You gotta hold space for opportunity.
- [55:12]
Unknown
Yeah. Yes, opportunity.
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Leslie Burris
You know, if someone came to you tomorrow and said, we actually have 100 acres over here near your parents. And it already has a 3,000 square foot house ready to go. You can move in tomorrow. You guys might stop and pray about it.
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Unknown
You know, honestly, if that happened right now, I might still. All we have is the basement.
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Leslie Burris
That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and that's what I'm saying is like, this is where I think that when we make a decision, and this is probably coming from a really biblical perspective. Like, you can make your plans, but the Lord is the one that guides your steps and you can make your plans, but what do they really mean? You know, plans change and things change and opportunities come that you may not get the opportunity to see again. And so again, weighing that opportunity cost is really important. So.
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Unknown
Yeah. Yes. Okay. So as far as entrepreneurship, I think we covered these questions mostly. What do you usually tell someone who's a stay at home mom who wants to start making an online income but hasn't started anything? Like, what do you, where do you tell them to start?
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, I, I, first of all, I, I like to tell people that affiliates, you have things in your home that you already love and use. Go get your link, go get your discount link and you never have to share them. I always tell this people to people too, like, I don't create. And I know, like when you were saying, like, I'm going to create a video and the sponsor, like the sponsor probably has to be cohesive for your video, the way that I come at it is I don't want to create a commercial. And so I'm going to share things that maybe have nothing to do with that product. But if I'm using it and people ask me questions, I want to be prepared to share that link. I also, as a stay at home mom, you live in a day now where, and I've seen this in my own coaching group, I coach people in a group and I help them strategize and get them ready for their viral moment. Because I've had people who don't have a platform, have a reel go viral, one, one in particular. And she made $2,500 off that reel and she didn't even try. And so that is in the realm of possibility. And so I would say the first step is round up your affiliate links, the companies and products and things that you love to use. Don't create all your content around it, but create content that speaks to the heart of the person you're trying to connect with. And they'll naturally ask, I think with, especially with the Whole niching idea of getting into a box. People feel like they have to create commercials. And the truth is we're inundated with commercials. We like things that come from a more organic place. Now again with a YouTube channel that makes sense. We are familiar in the YouTube land with paid sponsorships, right?
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Unknown
Yeah, that's no big deal.
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Leslie Burris
But when we're talking about Instagram and something that we're scrolling really fast, it's a little bit different ballgame. But there is so much online potential for earning money. I would also caution you watch out who you buy your advice from on who is making money. I mean obviously we've seen an increase of that, but I think that in this day and age, have your affiliate links available. There's no reason why you can't have a blog. I tell everybody, like, put your stuff in a blog post, put it in a blog post. Because you can serve your audience so much more with that long form content when they ask for it and you can just pepper that with links. That feels natural. And so that blogging is not dead. It's shifting, but it's not dead. And so if I were a stay at home mom, I'd be hitting up that, I'd be getting my own website. I would be, you know, making some highlights on Instagram, I would be connecting with people in my audience. I would begin to believe that my stories and the things that I have to share are valuable and I would just go with it and just again, just do it. Just don't, don't fester in it too much. But you know, again, I'm helping someone in. I'm thinking of someone in particular. They came to me and they were like, you know, they were making like $500 a month and they're like, how do I make 3,000? And you know, in the matter of four or five months, they did it. And it was just literally having someone coaching them along the way to saying like what you're sharing is really valuable. Like just keep going. Just, just believe that it's possible or at least entertain that maybe it might be possible.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
And share.
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Unknown
Yeah, I talk about that a lot because you have, if you don't. And it sounds, you know, people like, well, sounds like basically if you don't believe that it's going to help anybody or it's going to do anything, then why would you keep doing it? You know, if you don't actually think that, then you're not probably you're going to stop at some point. Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
And I would say another Tip that has really helped me grow into this over the years is that if I'm coming at a piece of content or I'm talking to my audience about something, I like curiosity based marketing. So when people are naturally curious, I can just point them to things. I like that I like talking about things from, not from a sales perspective. That's one of the main things that I get from people, is I don't want to feel salesy. And then I remind them, like, the only reason you feel salesy is because you're wondering how much money you're going to make from that particular piece of content. But if you switch the focus and you think how many people are going to be impacted by what it is I have to say and share and show, and I don't need to make a single dollar, you'd be amazed at how fruitful that can be. So the reason we feel salesy is because we're wondering how much money we can make. So if we can focus on how many people can we love and serve and collapse, time for money follows that and then we don't have to worry about feeling salesy. You know, I don't need you to buy LBs, I don't need you to do that. But it exists and if you want to, great. But I'm not going to create content that says, like, I hope this generates sales because that feels salesy. Good job. Yes. But if I'm just like a micro bakery and I'm showing you day in the life that is my actual real life, I walk out to the commercial kitchen, I put on my coat, I'm making bites, I'm loading freezers. That's just my real life. And if I'm filming that and people are curious about it, it may lead to sales, it may lead to a mom saying like, I really want to try those.
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Unknown
Right.
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Leslie Burris
So I think that there is a strategy behind that for sure.
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Unknown
And you mentioned the algorithms and I think we're, I've heard several experts say, and I've definitely experienced this myself, we're kind of past like the follower era. Like we have followers still. Like, I still have YouTube subscribers, I have Instagram followers. But what you actually see and watch on those platforms has nothing to do. Well, not nothing, but like pretty much only to do with what you are interested in and not who you follow. And so the like thinking like, oh, I'm behind, I don't have any followers. Followers are kind of not a thing anymore. I mean they're not like, not.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, I, and, and I actually this is one of the things I've been really concerned about in the entrepreneurial space is when you have somebody who is going to teach you how to grow your Instagram, and they have 200,000 followers. Well, they got those 200,000 followers by telling you to follow them, because they're going to help you grow your Instagram. That is very different. This is why I offered my program to my people, because I did not grow my social media based off of that particular info. I am a lifestyle influencer blogger on Instagram, and I'm doing lifestyle things. I am not teaching you how to do reels and hacks and things like that. And so. And I would say for anybody who's feeling just overwhelmed and intimidated about Instagram, that is a sign that you need to retrain your algorithm. So just as easily as you can. Like, if you're. You know, I bet you your Instagram is like, recipes Ruthanne Zimmerman, and.
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Unknown
No, I need to retrain mine. It's so dumb right now.
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Leslie Burris
Okay.
- [63:04]
Unknown
So dumb right now.
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Leslie Burris
And that's fine.
- [63:06]
Unknown
Followers are dead. Like, all I see is stupid stuff that, like, it's not people I follow. Sorry. I know.
- [63:12]
Leslie Burris
But the problem is once you click on one reel and you think it's funny. I know.
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Unknown
Then they're, like, so annoying. That's why I delete my Instagram app on the regular. I'm like, I can't have this on here because. Do you really? Oh, yeah. I hardly ever have it on my phone. I have to get it back on my phone, like, probably once a week I put it on, and then I have, like, some things I need to tend to, and I get it back off of there again.
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Leslie Burris
So where do you scroll? You have to scroll somewhere. Where are you on? Where are you scrolling?
- [63:38]
Unknown
Oh, I probably YouTube, honestly. Yeah.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah. YouTube is pretty great these days. Yeah, well. And everybody's scrolling something because who's watching TV anymore. I mean, really?
- [63:48]
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. But that's why I say, like, yes, there's brand recognition. So, like, I have brand recognition. So if I pop up with my face, that's more likely for somebody to click on it. But it's not really due to, like, the follower count I have. Because if you, like, you said, like, your algorithm is just fully trained on stuff you want to watch. So that's on YouTube. That's on Instagram. And so people still have a shot at creating original content that people want without having followers. Like, people can go viral these days. Like, that wasn't a thing. And so now, like we have people starting and then passing up people who've been at it a long time because they hone in on what's the right type of content to make.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, I mean, I, in my opinion, every single piece of content is already niched in and of itself. So your feed doesn't have to be niche. Your, your profile doesn't need to be niched. You can now, you can now let a piece of content actually perform really well for you all on its own. So that again, that's exactly. Yeah. And that's why I tell people like, stop thinking of your page as the niche. Think of your content as niche. And what I mean by that is like, let's say I've got a bag of LB's and I want to target moms with two year olds, okay. So I would do a reel and I would share and it would go to those who are scrolling and they have two year olds, they're already looking at that content with little kids, they want to hang out with other moms. I could also create a reel that's for grandmothers in a nursing home who can't chew anymore and they can't swallow pills anymore. And so I could, I could literally come up with a hundred pieces of content that were niched to a very specific people group and let dispense all of that and let the algorithm put it in the particular feeds that are already feasting on that kind of content. So it's very different than before.
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Unknown
It was like, you need to have.
- [65:39]
Leslie Burris
Your Instagram fully online. It has to be cohesive.
- [65:43]
Unknown
It's not.
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Leslie Burris
I disagree. And I think people want more conversational content than they want expertise content these days too.
- [65:51]
Unknown
So that's, it's true. That's why people are searching for Reddit, because we don't want a review, we want people to.
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Leslie Burris
It's a disclosure season, isn't it? It's kind of weird. Like people are like Internet sleuthing, like, where is this person and who is, who is real and who is not? Which is great for those who are playing the long term game. When people are nervous about AI, I actually am excited about AI because I think it's going to increase the value of our humanity. And so as long as you are conversationalists and you actually love and care about humans, you will have people who tune into your content. And so virality and making money on the Internet are just, they're synonymous now. If you don't know how to do it, that's just a skill to learn. And you know, just like anything, if you're starting to learn the piano, you start with chopsticks and you learn how to read music. But you don't expect to be Mozart. Right. So just give yourself a lot of grace and say, like, I don't know what I'm doing. And. And that's okay. You get better as you do things and post things, and nobody knows what's going to go viral. Nobody knows. The Trends are changing 17 times a day.
- [66:55]
Unknown
Yeah, it's true.
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Leslie Burris
Which is probably another reason why I tell people, don't hack too much, because the hacks are always changing.
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Unknown
Right. Yeah. I think you waste all your energy.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah. Waste all your energy learning hacks just to have them change it. And so. But it's an incredible. It's an incredible time to be alive, if you think about it. You get to have your own radio show. You get to have your TV show.
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Unknown
Yeah. Nobody had to, like, put this on for me. Like, it can just. You can just do it.
- [67:20]
Leslie Burris
You didn't have to try.
- [67:21]
Unknown
Tomorrow, anybody here could just go out and.
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Leslie Burris
Anybody get a microphone.
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Unknown
I mean, look at my microphone. I. Yeah, it doesn't.
- [67:30]
Leslie Burris
Marketplace. Tell me it's Marketplace.
- [67:32]
Unknown
Well, no, it's not. I had to get a new microphone, but when I went to actually hook it up onto my little desk here, there was a piece broke off, and so I had to hold it the whole time.
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Leslie Burris
Listen, it's still. Again, it's. What are we talking about? And do people want to listen? Do they feel Again, it's how you make people feel that's more important than how a particular piece of content is performing.
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Unknown
Right.
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Leslie Burris
Period. Period. End of story. And I think that that will not change. You will see AI influencers and some weird stuff coming. But at the end of the day, if you're a real human on the Internet and you care about people, you're gonna do just fine. You're gonna do great.
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Unknown
Dot com. Okay, we have a couple questions about the motherhood slump. Like, how can we keep a positive attitude and not let resentment set in? This person says, I want to be a fun mom, but every day feels like a hard slog. And then the other one says, advice for a new mom. When the baby and toddler stage doesn't feel enjoyable. So just, like, slump, the motherhood.
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Leslie Burris
Oh, yeah. So the motherhood slump. Well, to speak to the whole. Like, I feel like I don't enjoy. And maybe I'll get roasted for this. And this will be good. This will be good for my flesh to get roasted. I Actually, I don't play with my kids.
- [68:49]
Unknown
Right. Yeah. I mean, I think we've talked about. Lots of moms feel that way, and it's not. You also have seven kids, so they.
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Leslie Burris
I made them brothers and sisters. I made them. No, but in all seriousness, the slump is real. And I would say, like, let's check your diet. How much water are you drinking? Are you getting outside? Are you getting enough sleep? You know, I mean, to go from. And I think we said this on the last podcast, having seven kids today is easier than having two kids. When I had two kids, two and under, I didn't have the skills. I didn't know what I was doing. I always felt this, like, negativity, like, this guilt. Like, I was just learning so much in motherhood. And so the slump is like, I need to drink water. I need to go for a walk. I need a. I need a. I need a nap. Usually, food, water, and a nap can really help with the slump. But also, mom guilt is real. And if you can. If you can really mitigate some of that mom guilt and under. Like, every single mom with two little babies or three little babies, they are in it. It is. In my opinion, it was my hardest. It was my hardest transition to go from one to two children.
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Unknown
I think most people say that actually.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, I had this mom guilt over here because I wasn't doing everything for my second born that I did for my first. And so I felt bad for her, and then I felt bad that I could no longer do for my firstborn everything that I used to do for my firstborn, because now my attention is. Is. I wouldn't say it's divided because I don't. I don't think it's just. It's increasing capacity. But you can't do the same routines for. For each season.
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Unknown
Every season, everything changes about that.
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Leslie Burris
Everything changes. And so I think the slump can really be triggered by how we view it and also being really hard on ourselves. You know, like you were saying, being. Being a perfectionist and being like, we have to be this perfect mom. There is no such thing. There's no such thing as a perfect mom, but there is such thing as a mom who is trying her best and is willing to apologize and make it right when she gets it wrong. That's called humanity.
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Unknown
Yeah. And there's grace for each day, too. Like, that's another thing we carry, is all the days prior when you can just start fresh each day. And that's the. That's. I think the hardest part about having Two little kids. Like, you know, now if you were handed two little kids, there's a certain amount of confidence that would make that, like, not hard at all. But it's. For me, when I had two little kids, like you said, the hardest part about it was thinking, like, am I doing enough here? Am I doing this? Am I doing that? And, like, all those worries are just gone now. And so now it's just like, the actual work of keeping them, which is like. Like, it's not that bad, actually. When you strip away all of the doubts and the craziness with that, it's actually like, the job itself, apart from that isn't really that hard.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah. And I think it's the hard way.
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Unknown
Like, there's some moms that want to literally kill me right now. But, like, that's. I. It was hard.
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Leslie Burris
They're on Reddit. They're on Reddit right now.
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Unknown
She said it was easy. No, I'm not saying it was easy. It was really hard for me. Like, really hard. But that's because I worried about, like, every little thing. Like, the questions that new moms ask me. I'm like, oh, I don't worry about that anymore. But, like, I. I remember when I did, and it was really, really hard.
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Leslie Burris
Yep. Give it time. Give it time. And, you know, there is no easy answer. It's just like, sometimes, and. And I think what we make the slump mean is really important, too. So if, you know, I go through seasons where I'm just. I'm down. I just went through winter, so I wasn't a slump. I didn't walk. I didn't lift a single thing. Gym. I. I YOLO'd. I sat and, you know, crocheted and watched your YouTube videos. And so, like, I was like, you know, I. I was kind of sliding in and just kind of being like a little bit like, Eeyore. And I. I don't make those seasons mean that I'm a bad mom. It just means I'm probably in a hard spot and this is how I'm coping.
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Unknown
Right. Yeah. And. Yes. And you won't carry that with you into the spring when everything feels great again, Right?
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Leslie Burris
Like, that's. That's arranging flowers really soon.
- [72:54]
Unknown
I do want to go back to the, like, two. Two little kids is easy part. How quickly we forget when our kids are sleeping through the night. Right? Okay. I have amnesia some parts of it. I just meant, like, the day to day, like, making their food and, like, putting their little laundry. Like, that part's really not bad. Like, you can get them on a little schedule, but like, when they're up all night, when they're five months to 12 months, that's hard.
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Leslie Burris
Like that.
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Unknown
I didn't mean. I just mean, like, it's.
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Leslie Burris
Sleeplessness is hard.
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Unknown
Sleeplessness is hard. That part's hard every time.
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Leslie Burris
When that's the part of the slump that is like, that's why I said take lots.
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Unknown
It's hard every time. But when you divorce it from the worry, it's actually like, that's the worst part. Like, the questions I get, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's. It must be hard if that's what you're worrying about, which I understand, because, you know, you just don't know. Like, you're not on the other side of it yet and you don't have any, like, like humans that grew to age, whatever they are to say, like, oh, that's not a big deal. Like, you're gonna forget all about that like that if you didn't read them, they're not gonna remember. You ever read, like, I do read to my little kids because they love it. It's enjoyable. But like, I don't know that they're gonna remember any part of that when they're old.
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Leslie Burris
Right? No, you're. You're filling their love tank in an immediate way and then just expect that tank to be totally empty and feral again the next day. And so, like, they're, they're.
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Unknown
If you miss a day, they're not.
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Leslie Burris
Gonna, they're not gonna need therapy for that. They're gonna need therapy for way other things that are coming as they grow up. And I laugh because if we don't laugh, we'll just take it too serious. We have to make room for our humanity in motherhood, and that helps us enjoy it a lot more. What was that last question that you asked, though? It was a slump. And then it was.
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Unknown
She just said like, every day feels like a slog. And the other one said that the baby in toddler stage doesn't feel enjoyable. Yeah, they're demanding. Like, there's just a lot of things they need. And also, like, I was gonna say another thing that made having like younger toddlers hard. Like now my, my three year old, he throws the most fits. Like, he's just extra. What is extra one?
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Leslie Burris
Is it the 20, 21 kid?
- [74:58]
Unknown
I don't know what's happening, but, like, that would have, like, really got me. Like, he's especially in public and now it's just kind of funny. I'm like, good Grief child.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah. Even if they do in public, I'm just like, yeah. I literally. This was. I'm sure someone saw me. I went to the store and my three year old again, just like, he's so strong now. I don't know about. I don't know about Victor if he's that strong, but like, like just throwing or. I think it was Theodore. They're the same age as, as. As Bohannon. But when he throws back now he's really strong. Like, he, like, it could hurt. And I remember I was walking out, I was getting some kind of gift or we were in. We're in some kind of video store, and he flailed and I remember I just. I picked him up by his shirt and the booty of his little jeans, and I was carrying him out to the parking lot like this because he was just flailing and having a fit. And I. I just looked around and I was like, hey. I couldn't wave because I was holding him, but I just looked at people and I was like, hey, you've been here, right? That's the wor. Like, if I. If I feel embarrassed, that's only going to make the situation work. So if you. If you can learn to laugh at yourself in those moments, you disarm the seriousness of having to be the perfect mom. Like, if you can just. And again, one of my favorite movies growing up was Cheaper by the Dozen. And I don't know if you remember that movie, but they were like, flinging food across the table, handing each other.
- [76:24]
Unknown
It was just like, I need to watch it. I don't know if I've seen it. My family, like, quotes it, like, different. Some of my sisters think it's hilarious. And so I know some of the quotes from it, but like, watching their.
- [76:36]
Leslie Burris
Family dynamic and how, like, it's just. It's again, when you can laugh at it and you cannot. You don't have to. I just want you have fun with it, you know? If I don't laugh at myself, it's gonna feel bad if you laugh at me, so I might as well laugh at myself. So you can really have a good laugh. You know what I mean?
- [76:54]
Unknown
Do you ever hang out with any other large family moms? Because I have a couple that, like, I see them once a year, twice a year maybe. But like, like two in particular that, like, we'll all get together. One has 11, one has 10. I have my little family. Right? And like, you will. Yeah, you will notice, like, what happens when you've gone through that, like, Just the things they're just letting. Just like, just like the kids are happily playing. They're not worried about, like, the certain things that, like when you're a new mom, you're like, oh, no, don't do that. Don't do that. They're just like. Like, talking and chat. And the baby walks up, baby might nurse a little bit. Baby might walk again, like, barefoot. And like, you'll just observe, like, ever get yourself around a mom like that?
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Leslie Burris
She's like.
- [77:39]
Unknown
And hang out and watch them. They make me look high strung, like. And I comparatively to like, me 10 years ago. Like, it's been such like a. A sanctifying journey. I am not. But, like, compared to them, you know, I am still like, I got some things that I'm like, like, and they have such happy, loved, successful children. So I'm not saying, like, they just throw it all out. Not at all. Like, they homeschool. They're very serious, intentional. But, like, there's these little things that promise if you're a new mom, and it's really overwhelming, you're probably worrying about things that, like, aren't. You shouldn't be.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah.
- [78:15]
Unknown
And you can see it if you. If you're around certain people. I don't know if I can. How you can get into that situation. But that's like the most. Every year when I get to go to that. It's like, the most. I love it because I'm like, wow. Like, I just. It's my learning session.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah. It's really. It's really interesting to see the dynamics of big families. And I will say to the. To the one who has, quote, unquote, just two kids. It's not just two kids. It's a lot of responsibility. And I will tell you that you have exactly the capacity that you need for the season that you're currently in. So when even. And I tell this more, you know, so when I. And I was thinking as you were talking, I was like, oh, I remember this friend. She had one child. I had four kids, ages 5 and under. And her kid was like, strung out, losing it, going crazy. And my kids were all sitting at the table, you know, being pretty decent. And she's like, I don't understand how you're just okay with all of this. And, you know, like, I'm struggling with just one. And I just reminded her, like, I have the capacity for four, you have the capacity for one. You need to be a good steward with your capacity with where you're at.
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Unknown
That is such a good Point.
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Leslie Burris
And when I tell people, like, when they're like, oh, I could never have seven kids, I'm like, why didn't.
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Unknown
You can't right now. Yeah, you can't right now.
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Leslie Burris
Seven kids. Well, yeah, you know, it's, it's one per time. And so this is another thing I tell especially pregnant mamas who maybe have a two year old at home and they are feeling all those nerves of like, what am I going to do? And I, what if I can't do this? And I would tell them, like, you do not have to worry about having any capacity for two children until that baby is born. Yeah, that baby is born. You are given from your good Lord the capacity to move through it with two kids, but you don't need it before. And I think you've said that even about birth. Like, there's no reason being anxious about giving birth because I will be given the capacity that I need only in the moment that I need it. Not when I'm practicing, not when I'm fearful, not when I'm playing hypothetical situations in my head. And I would just say, especially when you're thinking about, like, how do you know you're done having children? Which we didn't even hit on fertility. That would be a whole new other podcast.
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Unknown
Oh, yeah.
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Leslie Burris
Like, how do you know when you're done and how do you know when you're not? And I would say, like, if you're healthy and your body's healthy and your husband's healthy and you guys have a good marriage and things are in a good season, consider it. Because you don't have the capacity for another child today, but by the time they arrive in 10 months, you will.
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Unknown
Right? It's so true. We kept calling our last child, like every time something would happen when I was like, this is harder than it was last week, we kept calling it level eight. Like, oh, level eight. Level eight's crying. Like, level eight needs to be fed again. I'm trying to make dinner. And level eight, you know, because it feels like incrementally harder and then you adjust, you know, because two months before that I thought it was hard enough, you know, like, I definitely did not feel like, oh, I really need something more to do. And then you get to that point again and it does. It's just like a, that's, that's just, that's a very, very good point. And I think reassuring for a lot of moms to not think like, oh, you're just comparing like how hard something is for you right now for Time, time.
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Leslie Burris
Subject.
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Unknown
Like, Leslie has hard seven. I have one. Like, it's seven times harder, you know, like, that's.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah, well, and then, and then you get that guilt of like, she's so much better than me. And I would just say, no, you're. You're in your own level of heart.
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Unknown
And you're 40. You know, I' 40 this year. And so there's things too. Yeah, this year I'll be 40. And there's things, like people, like, there's things we're doing, like on our farm, like I just mentioned in my last podcast solo episode that we're putting in a pool, which I, 10 years ago, never considered. I probably been like, why would you want a pool? Like, you have little kids. But I have teenagers. And there's a lot of reasons why in this season of Life that I couldn't have understood 10 years ago that I really think it's a good thing for our family.
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Leslie Burris
Oh, it is really smart. I mean, that is the best babysitter, especially when your kids, like my, my five year old can swim really well. So I'm only. Really. Any offense can mitigate.
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Unknown
Yeah. I have, I only have two non swimmers right now. I have six swimmers and two non.
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Leslie Burris
But that's like pool party every day for free and without getting in the van.
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Unknown
I'm all about it. But it's just, it's just funny though, because, like, we compare things and we think like, oh, I wouldn't do this or that. And it's like, maybe when you're 40, you'll see these. There's just things, like, there's just, just. There's just things that happen as you move through life, as you, you know, do this certain thing, add this certain child, like, as you grow, things that end up making sense, things that don't. And we're all just kind of on our own trajectory with that.
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Leslie Burris
Yeah. Yeah. Again, you just walk and trust that there's going to be a net underneath you and when you make a decision, there is going to be help on the other side of that decision. But, but sitting on the sidelines and playing hypothetical scenarios and things like that, it's really hard to live. And I promise you that this is why, again, I'm a huge fan of just making the decision and acknowledging where you're at. So when you have two small kids or you're welcoming a new baby, you can say, this is hard. This is what hard feels like. And also, I have the capacity for this day. I don't have to worry about Next year. Because. Because what we tend to do is tell ourselves the story is like, it's never going to get easier. So if I add another baby, it's only going to get harder. And I'm like, harder and harder and harder. I would actually say it just gets different.
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Unknown
Yeah, it doesn't get harder. It's counterintuitive. But something about your brain is just on this journey and you'll just have to trust us. But yeah, like scripture says, sufficient for the day is its own trouble. And I'm always trying to remember that. Like, what do I have to do today? Just today, Just today. Because so much of what makes everything hard is just the weight of all the things. It's not like today, when I look at my to do list, when I look at, you know, how this whole thing's gonna be structured, like, it's actually not that bad. Like, I can put one foot in front of the other. It's all manageable. Yeah, it's when you're like, oh, I gotta, you know, do things that aren't for today.
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Leslie Burris
Yep. Yep. For sure. Well, it was so good to hang out with you.
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Unknown
I can talk with you all day long.
- [84:30]
Leslie Burris
We won't make this a Joe Rogan podcast, but any. If you ever go that route, just know I'm ready for a three and a half hour hangout session and I'm praying for you guys. And I cannot wait until we get both of our big families together and those kids can just go do that. Get that pool. It's. I'm only like four hours away. Three and a half hours away. I'll just zoom on up there, up.
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Unknown
There with your dinner.
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Leslie Burris
I'll help you cook because I know how to cook for an army too do.
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Unknown
So cool. All right, well, thank you so much for joining us.
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Leslie Burris
You're so welcome.
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Unknown
All right, well, as always, thank you.
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Lisa
So much for listening.
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Unknown
Make sure to head to leslieburris.com and if you're interested in checking out Elby's, which is over there, the. The liver that she talked about, her newest endeavor. And then, you know, it's a jumping off place for all things Leslie Burris to follow up or follow along with her and her podcast, she has the peace on purpose. A lot of what we talked about today was just being peaceful when things can seem chaotic. A lot of these things, like I, I do it too. Like I, I downplayed some of it. Like, oh, you just have to worry about that. I do worry about that. But these are some of the things, like some of the strategies for avoiding that and she is so great at speaking into that. So head over to lesliebarris.com we'll also link it down below. As always, thank you so much for listening and I will see you in the next episode of the Simple Farmhouse Life Podcast.
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Lisa
Thanks as always for listening to the.
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Unknown
Simple Farmhouse Life Podcast.
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Lisa
My husband Luke and I and our.
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Unknown
Eight kids work together side by side on our little homestead and use our blog, podcast and YouTube channel to reach other homemakers, home cooks and homesteaders with practical recipes and daily family life. For everyday sourdough recipes, make sure to check out our blog, farmassomboon.com and to dig deeper, we do also offer a course called Simple Sourdough over at Bitvit Ly farmhousesourdo Course. That's all one word. Bit Ly Farmhouse sourdoughcourse. If you're looking to learn how we earn an income online, check out my YouTube course at bit ly farmhouseyoutubecourse. All one word.
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Lisa
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