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Christy
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Courtney Johnson
Welcome to Slay the Gatekeeper. I'm your host, Courtney Johnson, and I am here to un gatekeep the gatekeep. Thank you so much for being here. Enjoy. Well, welcome, Christy, to Slay the Gatekeeper podcast. I'm so happy that you are here. I think that the work you're doing is super incredible. And also I'm sure my audience is very curious about the work that you do. So, Christy, you're a money hypnotist. What does that mean? Tell me about yourself, your background, and how you got to this point.
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Christy
Yeah, I'm happy to share. So, as a wealth hypnotherapist, essentially what I do is I guide people through a meditation to help them unpack where their limiting beliefs around money and success stress come from. And so if you're not familiar with hypnotherapy, it is a guided meditation that brings your brainwave state from a highly stressed beta brainwave to an alpha brainwave. And if you are really susceptible to hypnosis, you can lower your brainwave even lower to a theta brainwave, which is the brainwave state that you're in right before you fall asleep. It is also the brainwave state that you're in when you are a child. So children at the age of seven or younger are always operating at this theta brainwave state, which makes them most creative, most bold, and they're also more susceptible to suggestions. And that's why kids are very impressionable and they learn so quickly before the age of seven. So essentially what hypnotherapy is, is we're getting you to that brainwave state to help you get clarity around where your behaviors come from, what is influencing the way you think, the way you feel, the way you behave. And. And while you're in this brainwave state, we can also reprogram you to change your behaviors so that you're no longer going back to the same patterns that you are so wired to go back to. And that's what makes hypnotherapy so effective for quitting smoking, quitting drinking, and losing weight. Because at the end of the day, when you're trying to quit smoking, quit drinking, or lose weight, it's about changing your behaviors. And what I discovered as I continued to do this type of work is that I can use the same tool to change your behaviors around money. And when I started working with several entrepreneurs, I found that it is just so fun to work with entrepreneurs and work on a topic that is not often looked at. Hypnotherapy is so commonly used for things like losing weight and smoking and drinking that a lot of people don't think about using the same exact tool to change your behaviors around success and making more money. And so that's what I do.
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Courtney Johnson
It's so, so cool. I find a lot of people like in the healing space or wellness space, therapy space, mental health space, really stray away from like money and wealth. And I think that's because of their own limiting beliefs. So I think it's really, really cool how you brought these together. And by the way, I've done two sessions with Christy now. We did a group session and then a one on one session. And I, the only thing I can compare it to is like a psychedelic experience like you're going into, or like a breath work class, which to me is the same as a psychedelic experience. And I'm a big believer in psychedelics. But for people that don't want to go that route, or if you are going that route and you want to add support to that route, you know, you can do things like breath work, meditation, hypnosis. But it's really, really powerful because like in my session, one of my sessions with Christy, the group session, it went back to these like stories that my, like in comments that my parents had made that were completely unconscious to me. Like my money blockers were like little comments that they were making about wealthy people. So in my young brain I was conditioned to think that wealthy equals bad or wealthy people are selfish or whatever. So my body and my brain were protecting me from making more money because it didn't see it as safe. So until I went back and made that more conscious, it's a blocker. And I tell people all the time, like, it does not matter how much, how much hard work you're putting into. Like there comes a point where hard work is not going to get you there. You need to go and literally reprogram your brain. So I'm curious, Chrissy, what are some like common roots of the problem? Is it how we're conditioned? Is it like growing up without money? Like, do you see any pattern?
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Christy
Yeah. So the great thing about how, the great thing about me working with a lot of entrepreneurs is I'm starting to see universal themes. And a lot of it is money is evil, money is means, means a bad person. It's a quaint or it's associated with something negative. And I'll share a story from one of my most successful clients. We were able to double his income in less than six months. And we did a single Session. And the root cause of his income plateau was a memory from when he was about in middle school, school, he regressed back to visiting one of his wealthy friends homes. And his friend was a child prodigy in music. He had his own guitar studio. And in this scene he regressed back to going into the home, exploring the house, being in awe of this beautiful home and being in awe of this beautiful guitar studio, like this music production studio. And he's just so amazed by it. And then his friend's dad walks in because he had just got home from work and his dad turns out to be a complete asshole. He is completely douchey to him and his friend. And in that moment he decided that rich people are assholes. And so in his adulthood he didn't want to be an asshole. So he kept himself at this income cap, cap or plateau for the longest time. And when we were able to reparent that child of his, his subconscious child that's still hanging onto the belief that being rich means being an asshole, he was able to double his income afterwards because now he has no more negative energy around making more money. And it's just changing your attitude and changing your energy around it can make such a massive impact. Because he didn't do anything different in his business, his attitude just changed. The way he showed up on camera, because he's a YouTuber, the way he showed up on camera changed. And the source of income was still from his audience, it was still from his affiliates, yet the income doubled almost like magically. And that's the powerful thing about doing the subconscious work. Because your energy and your attitude and the way people see see you makes a huge difference in how much they make. And if you think about it logically, if you just show up as a more confident and happy and secure person, people find you more attractive. And when people find you more attractive, they want to work with you, they want to buy from you, they want to do anything that's involved with you. And so that after that single session, doing nothing different in his business, he went from making 10k months to 20k months passively through his YouTube channel. And so the universal thing I see the most is money is evil. Money means being an asshole, Money means negative things. Like there are horrible people that make a lot of money. And I don't want to be a horrible person. So I'm going to keep myself at a certain income level.
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Courtney Johnson
Yeah, I can actually share an example of how I was. Because you're right, you don't have to change your behavior. Like maybe Something will come up like, oh, I could. Your brain will start to consciously think, oh, now I can optimize that, or, I want to change this about my business. But I didn't. I personally didn't change anything about my business. After our sessions and the first time I came to you, which was a group session, I was stuck at, like, $20,000 a month revenue. And I, like, could not get past the 20,000 mark. I went and reprocessed again. We did this group session. A lot came up around, like, three different memories came up around my parents just saying negative things about, like, wealthier people in my town, reprocess that. And I didn't change anything about my business. But one thing that I started doing after that is I used to kind of think everything was like, a scam or spam. Like, obviously there are scams. But whenever people would, like, email me, oh, we have, like, a speaking opportunity and we want to pay you $500 for it. I don't know why my brain automatically defaulted to, like, oh, they're trying to scam me. The that was, like, the biggest change after is my brain started to say, oh, maybe I should explain some of these opportunities. Maybe I should explore some of these brand deals. My brain was literally blocking it off, like, blocking all these opportunities that were coming in my inbox because I was like, there's no way that's real. And so that was, like, the biggest change that happened after. And then after our second session, we process a lot of, like, really deep trauma, like, going back to some childhood sexual trauma. And I think the theme there was, like, me being afraid to, like, take up space and have worthiness around making money. And the biggest change, I also was kind of stuck at 25 to 30,000amonth at that point. And now I finally, like, started exceeding that because I noticed there was a lot where I would not charge people. I would be like, oh, no, no, it's okay, or they would forget. I would forget to invoice them. Or I wouldn't, like, follow up and kind of be annoying about, like, hey, you still owe me this invoice, whatever. And that was the big change. Again, I didn't change anything strategically about my business. I just. I. That that was unconscious. And then it brought to consciousness. Oh, I need to, like, be like, hey, you forgot this invoice. Hey, you didn't do this. Hey, like, no, I'm not going to give this for free. Like, we're booking a session. And that really increased my income. So again, it's not Always a strategic change in your business. There's probably a lot that you are unconscious to, and opportunities. You are unconscious, too. Is that something that you see in your. Your clients?
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Christy
Yes. I love that you mentioned that, because like I said earlier, sometimes it's not even a change in your behavior, but. But because you've shifted this perspective and this energy, you might make a different choice. And so the difference in my client's business when he doubled his income was the micro decisions he made in how he delivered the YouTube video or the person he interviewed in the video or the product that he talked about in his video. Because his entire channel is all about health and wellness products. And before, he was making a lot of content that was selling things. And after our session, he detached from selling and went to, oh, I'm going to make a video that I feel very energized about and really passionate about. And that was the video that went viral, and that was the video that brought a bunch of people to his channel. And then when people got to his channel, they started watching his other videos and buying the other products. And so, yes, he was still making YouTube videos. Yes, he was still showing up having the same YouTube style, but the one video that he made differently from all the other videos brought more people to his page and brought more revenue at the end. So it's a little compounding effect from a tiny little adjustment. And like you mentioned earlier, like, you just little adjustments, like, oh, you're following up with people even though, like, you weren't before, or you're noticing that you're not getting that invoice. And so that happens all the time. It's really, really, really common.
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Courtney Johnson
Yeah. A couple of other examples. One, I was going on a brand shoot that required me to have my nails done. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to invoice you for my nails if this is a requirement for this photo shoot. And I was literally like, my pants, like, so nervous. I'm like, oh, my God, am I being a diva? Like, what? Like, whatever. But I would have never even thought to do that. And again, that's like, whatever. A hundred dollars that came out of literally nowhere just because they came to consciousness of, like, oh, and I now I'm starting to do that. Oh, like, you want me to go to an event that's like an hour away? I'm gonna charge you for transportation Again. These are these tiny things that you're like, wow, that's. I don't know. I would have never thought. So you're really Getting into, like, vulnerability with people, how has that been? Like, that is also something I feel like a lot of people miss is, yeah, if you want to get to the. If you want to manifest, like, there's that thing, you really want that car, you really want that partner, you want that relationship. Like, the process of manifestation is feeling that, like, your heart's desire for that thing. And, you know, there's a block and processing what that block is. But a lot of times that means going really deep back into maybe some traumatic events, traumatic moments, maybe going into some really vulnerable places. So what is it like having to hold space for that vulnerability?
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Christy
Mm. So in the beginning, as a new hypnotherapist, that was probably the hardest part for me because I am very empathetic, and people become really vulnerable and go really deep into some really traumatic events. And over time, I had to shift my own mindset around. Well, vulnerability is being brave. And so I did a hypnotherapy session myself around vulnerability so that I can better relate to my clients. And what I started seeing differently is when I come into a session and I get to witness someone's vulnerability, it is an honor, and it is beautiful for me to witness someone's vulnerability, because now I'm seeing them as, oh, wow, this human being is being so brave right now. And I am so honored to be able to hold this space for them. And when I come into it with this attitude, it's even safer for them to be vulnerable and go even deeper and get even more incredible results, because the more vulnerable and more deep you're willing to go, the better the results. And oftentimes, when people go into the work that I do, they don't know what's coming. And it's kind. Kind of a good thing, because the way I market myself, I say, hey, I'm a wealth hypnotherapist. I help you remove your money blocks and your success blocks. And they come into the session, and all I do is I get them to a place where they understand what the process is and that they understand. They get to be very curious and open. And then after they go through the session, they're like, oh, I'm doing deep inner child work and resolving issues that I had not faced in a long time. And when I resolve these unresolved traumas, it changes my energy and my perspective and my attitude. And when I can change my perspective and my attitude, I will act differently. I will make different choices, and I can manifest more success by just lightening up my energy. And showing up in a more powerful, embodied, confident way. And so I kind of ish. Trick people into working with me because they think it's like, oh, I'm gonna manifest more money. No, actually, you're doing deep work and that's actually how you get the massive breakthroughs. That's how you get the big results. Because if you're not willing to go deep and be vulnerable and unpack all the things that you're afraid to face, then you're always going to stay in the same pattern. And I think it's just, yeah, going into it being vulnerable myself and understanding. Understanding what my client's about to go through and just. Just holding space with love and compassion. Because at the end of the day, the work that I do is just serving and loving and just spreading more joy and compassion into the world. And a lot of people, it's like I sell people on what they want and I give them what they actually need.
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Courtney Johnson
That's so true. I. I feel the same for, like, my LinkedIn class. I feel like it's like a bait and switch. Like, yeah, you're coming on to learn about LinkedIn, but, oh, let's address your fear of being seen now. Let me poke that until we get somewhere really deep. Okay. Yeah. Now you have a great personal brand and you're spreading more love in the world and you're healing like it really is. It's so funny because it's. It starts as something material and then it goes into something so much more. More.
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Christy
Yeah.
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Courtney Johnson
So.
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Christy
Because oftentimes it's not the tactical things that needs to be addressed, it's the inner unresolved. Woo. Stuff that needs to be worked on.
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Courtney Johnson
Yeah.
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Christy
It's not the strategy.
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Courtney Johnson
It's like a much deeper therapy. By the way, I am a fan of talk therapy. Like, whatever. It's great. It's helped me through some times in my life. But somat experiencing, like hypnotherapy, like breath work, like meditation, like, there's a lot of different aspects of that, but that has just been so much more powerful for me. So I appreciate your work and what you do. And I have a couple of cheat codes I want to share that have kind of helped me more on the surface level. And then once you start to surface it and bring it to consciousness, it can kind of permeate deeper. But I'm curious what you think of these cheat codes. And my first wealth cheat code is you have to stop hating rich people. Like, period. You have to stop talking shit about them. You have to Stop being like, oh my God, that influencer's so annoying because they drive this car. You have to stop being like, oh my God, this person sucks. Like you have to stop talking shit about rich people or, or you will never be able to become that. Do you know why that is? What's your thoughts on that?
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Christy
Yeah. So when you hate on rich people, the belief that you're reinforcing is that rich people are bad. And your subconscious mind, it hangs on to your words and your thoughts so deeply, it think of your subconscious as like a 7 year old kid who doesn't know any better and takes everything at face value. And so if you keep hating on rich people, you're literally telling yourself rich people are bad, rich people are bad. And then your brain is going to want to confirm that bias of yours. And as long as it keeps confirming that bias, it's going to continue to associate money with bad, money with evil. And if it keeps confirming that over and over again, then you're always going to behave in a way that makes that true. So when you eat, when you start making money, it's going to be like, no, no, no, rich people are bad. And so I get to confirm this truth that I believe in by self sabotaging.
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Courtney Johnson
Yeah, I used to be that person. I used to be like rich. I. Cause I went to a university that was very wealthy. Everybody there was very wealthy. I did not fit in. I literally came from the country. I didn't fit in with everyone. I like didn't make friends, I didn't get into sorority, like all of this. And I had this beef with wealthy people. I'm like, they suck, they're awful, they're so like whatever. And that was keeping me from making money. And so what I did is I switched all of the people that I was following from wealthy people that I thought I didn't like to people that were inspiring people that were doing really, really great things with their money. And I essentially gaslit myself on social media and that really, really helped. Seeing examples of it.
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Christy
That is the perfect way to reprogram yourself. So that's a really good cheat code. Cheat code. Because now the bias that your brain is going to have is rich people are good people, rich people are influential, they are leaders. And you're going to want to be that leader, you're going to be that influential person who uses money for good. And so confirmation bias with your subconscious mind is very, very powerful because it takes everything at face value and then it just confirms it over and over again. It does whatever it takes to make it true. So very, very good.
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Courtney Johnson
Cheat code. I have another cheat code and that is a little game I like to play. I've given this some of my clients, I've done it myself. You take out a piece of paper or your notebook or journal and you're going to write down day one. Day one, I get $1,000 to spend. Okay, you have to write down how you're going to spend $1,000 today. I encourage you to be as selfish as possible. So day one, I going to spend a thousand dollars on going to a fancy ass spa. Okay. Day two, you don't even have to do, you don't have to wait till the next day. You can just continue the writing exercise. Day two, you're going to get $10,000. How are you going to spend that $10,000? Well, what I'm going to do, I'm going to buy a really expensive vintage sofa. Okay, day three, a hundred thousand dollars. Now you have to spend $100,000. What are you going to do? I'm going to hire someone for a year full time on my team and like pay them really well. All right, day for $1 million. How are you going to spend $1 million today? Oh, fudge. This is getting a little harder. I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that. All right, now $10 million. And keep going on and on and on until you're at like $1 billion. A trillion dollars. Keep multiplying it by 10 and you're going to see that how much value you can provide. When you start to list out actually what, what are you spending money on. I'm going to grow my team so I can have more impact or I'm going to take care of myself so I can show up the best. And then once you get past like the $10 million mark, you're like, okay, I'm giving all this away. I'm giving it away. I have nothing else. I've already accomplished everything I want to accomplish. I'm going to make a school, I'm going to do this. I'm going to help the planet. Whatever you're passionate about, that's going to start to come out and then you're going to start to see really, really clearly, oh, shit, I'm a good person. So the more money I have, the more impact and the more good I can have on the world. So very powerful exercise. Go try it. I love it.
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Christy
And it also reinforces the idea of making money familiar. So this is something I Always teach is not only do you want to rewire yourself to believe that money equals good, but you also want to familiar yourself, familiarize yourself with having money. Familiarize yourself with what it is like to spend the money, to have it, to see it, to smell it. And so literally on my nightstand, I leave a spread of cash, brand new cash, because I see it every day. And subconsciously it's programming my mind to be familiar with money. And what I love about this cheat code is as you are writing down $1,000 and then you're writing down 10,000 and then 100,000. That's just familiarizing your, yourself with having money and spending money and putting yourself in that experience of having money and spending money even though you're not actually doing it. But your mind doesn't know any better. It can't differentiate between what's really happening and what you're feeling. If you're feeling it, your body literally believes it's already happening. So just imagining, just thinking about what you're spending the money on, writing it down on paper, your nervous system is like, oh, I'm experiencing this as if it were true. And so another very good cheat code, I love that.
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Courtney Johnson
That brings me into my next cheat code which is surround yourself by people who have already accomplished your goal. So let's say your goal is to get your very first six figure job. You gotta go be friends with people who are already, already have a six figure job. Not people who are trying to get there, but people where it's normalized. Okay, you need to go work at WeWork where everyone works for a tech startup. You need to go to that kind of expensive restaurant in your or coffee shop. And yeah, the coffee costs $10, but you know, that's where a lot of these like higher paid remote workers go. You need to surround yourself with people who have already accomplished the goal to normalize it. Or let's say you want to make a million dollars. Whatever, doesn't matter. But the easiest example is like your first six figure remote tech job. Go to places where people already have accomplished the goal. How does that align with your teachings, Christy?
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Christy
This is literally what I do. When I started my hypnotherapy business I was, before that I was a school teacher. I was a middle school math teacher. Making when I started I was making under 50k a year. And after five years I was only making 60k a year. I only went up 10k in, in five years, not that much. And so when I started my business, I intentionally went to events where six figure and higher CEOs were attending, they were hanging out and I was intentionally hanging out with them and giving them free hypnotherapy sessions because I wanted to know what it was like to work with a high level CEO. And working with high level CEOs, I was able to really tap into their minds and understand what's holding them back. And I was able to capture testimonials from them and start my business right off the bat at a really high level. And young entrepreneurs. This is something if you're starting out a business and you want to skip over and start working with high ticket clients right away, the cheat code is to find those people, make friends with them, give them lots of free value, and then you tap into their network and then they refer you, they give you testimonials and then right away you are working with high ticket clients instead of doing the slow route, which is like working with anybody and then slowly working your way up. So that was the cheat code that I went with in order to start with work, start working with high level entrepreneurs right off the start of the, right off the bat, at the start of my business.
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Courtney Johnson
Dude, that is so, so smart. I think anybody can. Yeah, that's genius. Honestly. That's going to be a great social post right there. I did, I did something really similar when I started in social media. I was a Ghostwriter for tech CEOs, only tech CEOs. And I got to develop very intimate relationships with them because I was writing for them. So I had to get to know them, their personality. I had to like dig into their brains and how they think. And working with so many tech CEOs, like one, just normalize it for me. But two also helped me overcome imposter syndrome because I was like, I worked with all men. They're, they're. I, I've only, I only worked one, one woman. So I was like, these are all just like normal bros that just have a delusion. So like, if they can do it, I can do it too.
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Christy
That's a great point because that is something I also noticed as I was working with these really high level CEOs. I'm like, Whoa. They're just, they're just normal people like us. They don't have anything special that got them to where they are other than the fact that they believed in it, they knew they wanted it and they just went for it. And so any of us can do.
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Courtney Johnson
It, anybody can do it. And oftentimes like I find that CEOs or founders or Whatever. People that are doing really big things are not even the smartest people. Typically, the people that are the most books for are going to like, do their one really niche thing at a company that they feel safe in instead of, like, go on their own. People that are going on their own are like the ADHD people that like, couldn't fit into corporate world because they had, like, bad behavior or whatever. Like, like being like a child and like, you're always getting in trouble in school. Like, those are the types of people that go on to be CEOs. Not like the super, super smart and not all the time, but definitely I love, love that cheat code. Another random cheat code I want to throw in is this app. It's called Locker. And you can, like, if you want to go buy something, but you're not really sure if you want to buy it, you can save it to your locker. And I always save stuff to my locker. And I feel like I'm shopping. Like, I feel like I'm buying all these expensive things. I started using it just because I wanted to be more mindful in my spending. I'm like, okay, well, if I want something, I'll add it to my locker. And at the end of every month, I'll just review and see if there's anything that I still want at the end of the month. But what it turned out to be is I'm like, oh, I'm like shopping, quote, unquote, shopping for all these things I want. And I feel like my brain thinks I'm actually shopping, but I'm just saving it to, like a virtual closet.
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Christy
Yeah. Oh, my gosh. That's what I was saying. Your mind doesn't differentiate between, like, the real experience or you're. You're imagining it. So you visually putting the item into your locker is going to give you your. Or give your body the experience as if it were already happening. And that's a really great way to just program yourself to, to feel abundant. Like, I have all these things and I love it. And what's the app called? Locker.
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Courtney Johnson
It's called Locker. I think the website is like wantlocker.com it's so much fun. I love it. I feel like I'm. Yeah, I feel like I'm shopping and it has helped make like it's helped me spend mindfully and purchase mindfully too. Because there's so many times where you, like, go to buy something, like on a whim, and then you don't like it two weeks later and you're like, why did I buy this anyways. So great. Great tool. Okay, my next cheat code, Money Church, or Money Date, is creating a ritual around tracking your finances, paying your bills, like spending time with money that is positive and feels good. Do you have anything like this in your life, Cristy?
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Christy
I have a money systems spreadsheet, and I'm lacking the fun part in there, but it's something that I love using because. Because it forces me to actually look at where I'm at financially. It's a spreadsheet that has all my expenses and how much I make and all my credit card debt and all the interest rates next to it. And it's just something that I update monthly so that I know where my finances are at at all times. And it's a good practice to have because a lot of people, what they have around money is this avoidance. If I don't feel confident with money, if I don't feel confident with how I manage my money, I'm going to avoid it and not even look at it. So just having a system, a spreadsheet or something that you track every single month changes that avoidance. So that, okay, now it's normal to look at my finances and you start to detach from what it means to have a lot of debt. What it means to have a little bit of debt. It's just neutral. And when you practice this and you neutralize your emotions around money, it's easier to manifest it, it's easier to keep it. It's easier to manage it when you don't have a heightened emotion around it.
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Courtney Johnson
I completely agree. I have. I've talked about this a lot on my social. But I actually, I don't know if I told you this, Kristie, but I have been in $32,000 of debt two. Two separate times. 32,000. Exactly. And once it hit 32,000, I snapped into consciousness and then went and remedied it and, like, paid it off, whatever. And I realize the reason why it was 32,000 is because that's how much my college education costed. And my parents would always be like, $32,000. Courtney, I can't believe whatever you're. You're not doing this. We paid $32,000. You're not doing that in your life. But we paid $32,000. Almost like I felt like I was indebted and I owed them $32,000. Exactly. So it happened two times. And then I think on, like, doing mushrooms one time, or maybe it was like a yoga class, and it came to consciousness. I'm like, oh, my God, that's where $32,000 comes from. So, yeah, look at the significant. If you are in debt, like, there might be a significance to the number.
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Christy
Yeah. There's so many different meanings that we make subconsciously that manifest in our reality. Like, your reality is a mirror of what you didn't look at inside.
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Courtney Johnson
Okay. I totally feel you on the avoidance. Like, I have felt that so many times. I still feel that sometimes that's why I have to have, like, accountability hour with my money, time with some other people. So I don't go into avoidance because I. I can slip into that really quickly. So if people are feeling avoidance, is that something that you can help them with?
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Christy
Oh, yeah, for sure. Because your avoidance actually comes from something else, and it might not even come from a money belief. It could be just avoidance in general. And it shows up in your money area and your relationship and in your health as well. Are you looking at. Are you avoidant in your romantic relationship? Are you avoidant in looking at the scale or tracking your food or going to the gym? So the avoidance itself is a behavior that comes from something else. And through hypnotherapy, we can figure out, okay, why do you have this avoidant behavior?
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Courtney Johnson
What I think is really cool is you are literally on the cutting edge of mental health and, like, healing science. By the way, if you. You can go Google pubmed hypnotherapy, it is, like, scientifically proven that this works. The research backs it. It's really, really amazing. And I feel like it's just starting to be on the precipice of, like, healing work. I mean, it's been around forever, but I feel like right now it's starting to happen in hospitals, therapy center, and stuff like that, which is really cool in clinics, but I think it's really amazing what you're doing because you literally are, like, on the cutting edge of science.
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Christy
Thank you. I love that. Yeah, hypnotherapy definitely needs to go more mainstream. I don't know why it's taking so long to be more popularized. Because celebrities and athletes, professional athletes, have been using hypnotherapy forever to excel and to achieve. Like, you think of Michael Phelps. He did visualizations around finishing the race over and over and over again. And if you ever see films of him racing, his coach would literally say to him on the sidelines, play the film. Play the film. And what he's doing is he's playing the film in his mind of him finishing a race, and that's what hypnotherapy is. Hypnotherapy is visualizing and training your brain, programming your brain to believe in a reality that hasn't happened yet. And then the reality happens because you've already believed that it's done.
- [34:57]
Courtney Johnson
Yeah, I think it might be just the cultural associations of older generations, like pop culture hypnosis, whatever, with the clock in front of your eyes, which, by the way, what's so funny about that image of the clock going back and forth in front of your eyes as someone's being hypnotized. Like a silly movie is the right and left eye movement is actually like the basis of EMDR and a lot of other healing modalities. And it does happen in hypnotherapy where your eyes go into like what happens during REM sleep where they kind of like go all around. So there is truth to that. But I think that might be why it hasn't become mainstream because it's almost like this hidden thing that like wealthy people, athletes, like super high achievers, celebrities are keeping from other people and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You keep thinking it's this crazy woo woo thing and I'll keep doing it and I'm not gonna tell you that's. That's my like conspiracy theory about it.
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Christy
You know, you might be right about that.
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Courtney Johnson
It's very.
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Christy
Yeah. The word hypnosis has kind of a negative connotation because of Hollywood and how it's been portrayed. And people think it's mind control when in reality there's, there's absolutely no mind. I cannot make you do anything you don't want to do.
- [36:08]
Courtney Johnson
Also, it's, it's all consent. Like you, you are consenting to it. You can, you opt in. You don't have to show share. Like something that I find really important about all healing work is it's very consent driven. And I think consent is something we often think of in like sexual encounters. But no, like, it is, you don't have to do anything. Like, if you were ever in for. I'm, I'm, I have a lot of experience and healing work, all of this. And if you ever don't want to share something, like, that is okay. Chrissy's not going to be like, no, you have to say that. No, no. She'd be like, okay, you are not there. Actually how I see it is like, okay, you're not comfortable sharing that, sharing that. Okay. Do you want to dive into, like vulnerability? Do you want to dive into something else? Like there's never a need where you have to do anything you don't want to do.
- [36:52]
Christy
Hmm.
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Courtney Johnson
Yeah.
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Christy
And I always tell my clients, there's no right or wrong way to do it. You come into it with curiosity and openness. And during the session, if there's anything you don't feel comfortable sharing, all you have to do is answer the question. And because you've. You've done a session with me, you know how non invasive it is and how easy it is for you to just share what you are comfortable sharing and then not share what you're not comfortable sharing. Because regardless of how much you share, you're still going through the transformation, and it's all happening within you and in your own mind, which is why hypnotherapy is so beautiful. Because I actually hold no power over you. I'm just here as a guide and someone to hold space for you. And ultimately, you are making the massive changes in yourself and you are downloading the insights on your own. I'm not doing anything. I don't have a magic wand. And I'm not making you do anything or putting you into any kind of altered state. It might feel like a psychedelic journey for some people, but that depends on how deep you go on a brainwave level, like you're putting yourself into that state. It's. It's your own meditation practice. What I notice is people who practice meditation can go into hypnosis very easily because they already know what it feels like to be in that state.
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Courtney Johnson
Yeah. And you probably. You feel more safe going into that state because you do it often. Definitely. Is there any other cheat codes that you have around increasing your income through, like, healing work or just increasing your income in general? I know we went through a lot of cheat codes, but anything I miss that you want to offer?
- [38:31]
Christy
Well, I briefly mentioned it earlier. Leaving cash on your bed stand. There's another one that you can also do, which is putting cash in your air purifier so that it's blowing. It's blowing the scent of money. And so subconsciously, you're smelling money, you're seeing money, you're familiarizing yourself with money, and you're making it so that there's no negative feeling around it. It's either positive or just familiar or neutral. I think neutral is actually better because then there's no positive or negative. And. And you don't go into the state of, like, wanting money or needing money. It just becomes familiar. It just becomes what it is. Money is there. Money is available to you, and you don't have to have any charge around it. I think that's the best place to be.
- [39:20]
Courtney Johnson
That is so important. That has been a huge part of my journey, and the only thing I can. It gets such an interesting transformation when money starts to become neutral to you. But the best way I can describe it is, like, I used to have a lot of emotional charge around my body and eating, and I feel like it happens to a lot of people. As you get older, you just get more neutrality and objectiveness about your body. Where I'm like, oh, I'm not feeling my best. I'm gonna work out more. Rather than, like, I hate myself. I look awful. I have to starve myself. Right. I'm like, oh, no, no. That's just. That's just a data point. Or, oh, I'm feeling a little less strong than I'd like to be. That's a data point. I'm going to go work out a few more times. I'm going to start lifting more weights. Right. That's like that objectiveness that I now. That I went from feeling really emotional to. To now feeling very objective. I now see that with money, if it's like, oh, this month, there's not going to be as much to hit this goal. Okay, well, what else could I be doing? Rather than, like, oh, no, it's the end of the world. But it takes a lot of work to get to that neutral perspective.
- [40:18]
Christy
Yeah. And I think just exposing your. Your body, your mind to money makes it more neutral. Like, if it's just there, it's just there. Like, it becomes less novel. Think about when, like, you have a toy and it's like, oh, this is so novel. And then over time, it's. It's just. It's just there and you're neutral to it.
- [40:37]
Courtney Johnson
Yeah. I think that's also, like, a huge reason why surrounding yourself with people who have already accomplished your goal works. Because you see their lives. You see that their life is not like magic and perfect. They struggle to. They. Whatever. You see it as very neutral. The more repetition. Also, Cristy, I'm going to end on this cheat code because it's absolutely batshit insane. But I did it because a friend told me to do it. And this is kind of like a BDSM kink cheat code. Well, it's, like, rooted in that. So you take your credit cards and your debit cards, you put them in the bathtub or the shower, and you pee on them to assert your dominance energetically over it. Like, I. That happens. It. You know, So I did it and it was funny. It felt like very silly. The best way I can describe it is like sometimes when I'm feeling really high, energetic or like emotional charge about something, let's say I'm like, I'm getting on a sales call. I'm really nervous about, I'll put on middle school dance music. Like, have some like Soulja Boy. And it just, it makes me laugh. I'm like, this is so absurd. It doesn't matter. And that's how it felt. Peeing on my credit cards. I'm like, this is so. Why am I doing this? I feel so silly. Like, whatever. And then I'm like, oh, I get like, why it's because I'm asserting. Like my asserting power over it is really just me. Like, this is so fucking nothing matters. Like, this is so silly. Anyways. Go pee on your credit cards. I'm not encouraging you to do that, but it's funny. I'm not going to say who told me to do it, but you know who you are. And yeah, it was fun.
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Christy
I have never heard that before and I'm down to do it.
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Courtney Johnson
Try. I mean, why not? Like, I feel like you can give it a try. It's like, it's fine. And it, it does, it does establish a power dynamic. You know, you're putting yourself well, logically, it makes sense. Yeah. I've also heard, and I'm not. I don't know a lot about the like tantra kink, BDSM like energy, but I have some friends that like do healing work around that area. And one of them also told me that like, you have to be a dom and money has to be like a sub energy. Like, you tell it what to do. You are like directing it not in a mean way, but just in like you have power over it almost. How? Like you have to have power over your dog. Like, you have to, you know, train your dog and you have to like tell it to sit and it has to obey you. It's like the same energy start to give to money a loving dominance. Not like a hateful dominance, but like you would treat a submissive thing like again, like your pet. So try that out too. Anyways, if you want to see like a how what this experience is, like, I'm posting it on my patreon. Like I'm putting the actual recording to it. Massive trigger warning. If you are not comfortable with some, I'll I put what the trigger warnings are, but massive trigger warning. But if you want to see, dive into it. You can go to my Patreon. And Chrissy, how can people find you or book with you?
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Christy
Yeah, they can follow me on Instagram at Christy the hypnotist says C H R I S T Y the hypnotist. And yeah, just DM me on Instagram. There's a link tree in my bio as well. And just hop on a call and I'm happy to chat.
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Courtney Johnson
Yay. Beautiful. Okay, Christy, I am so grateful for you being here. I love talking about money. This was so fun. And, yeah, I hope you guys reach out to Christie. And again, if you want to see a recorded a recording of a session, you can head over to my Patreon. Awesome. Thanks, Christy.
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Christy
Thanks, Courtney. It was so fun to be here. I'd love to do this again.
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Courtney Johnson
Yes, for sure. Okay, y'all, if you like this episode, you would love, love my Patreon. Okay? You get exclusive access to me, exclusive content, tons of other resources, and a lot of juicy. Okay? So I hope to see you on my Patreon.