
This week, in Roebuck, South Carolina, police are called to beauty salon, to find the owner, horribly attacked & murdered, hanging from a duffle bag strap. There are several suspects, including her husband, a prisoner who confessed, and a young...
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James Petregallo
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Jimmy Wissman
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James Petregallo
Oh yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petregallo. I'm here with my co host.
Jimmy Wissman
I'm Jimmy Wissman.
James Petregallo
Thank you folks so much for joining us today on another crazy edition of Small Town Murder. We have a lot today. This is like 10 pounds of murder in a two pound bag. As usual, we have a murder that's definitely solved and then another one that might. We don't know. Yeah, we got a guy that might have done some really bad stuff to way more people than he's been caught for. So we'll talk all about that and more. But first head over to shutupandgivemerder.com what do you get there, you may ask? Well, merchandise obviously, but more importantly, tickets for live shows. Get in there. Get your tickets for live shows, especially the 4:20 virtual live show takes place on Saturday, April 19, day before 4:20 and it'll be available for two weeks after that to buy and watch a hundred times or do whatever you want with it for two weeks and have a lot of fun with it. We cannot wait. Just like a regular live show. Except where are they, Jimmy?
Jimmy Wissman
Right in their living room.
James Petregallo
Well, wherever they want to be. Yeah, anywhere with an Internet connection in the entire planet Earth is where you can be. So we're very excited for that. Definitely get your tickets right now. Just like a regular live show. We are very excited. Also get your tickets for the regular live shows. We have our next upper in May. We have St. Louis in Chicago. St. Louis sold out. You guys are the best down there. Chicago. Get in there and sell that bad boy out at the Riviera. We're excited. Shut up and give me murder dot com. Get them for the rest of the year too because they are going. We have a lot of shows sold out after the summer. So definitely get your tickets right now. Also get yourself Patreon. Do yourself a favor. If you like our shows, if you listen to this, you listen to crime and sports, you listen to your stupid opinions and you want more. Patreon's where you get it. Patreon.com. crimeInSports is where you get all the bonus material. Anybody $5 a month or above, you get everything. Whole back catalog of hundreds of episodes you've never heard of. Bonus stuff, new stuff every other week. One crime in sports, one small town murderer, and you get it all. This week is no different. This week, what you're gonna get for crime and sports, we are gonna talk about more sports songs, more athletes singing terrible songs. And we even have Evel Knievel reading poetry, which is so all of that and more for small town murder. We're gonna talk about Louis Carlucci who was known as the as Khan Juan or the con man Casanova. And he had like conning all these women in New York city in the 80s and he was like the whole city was looking for him and no one knew who he was or how to find him. Craziest thing ever. We'll talk about that and more. Patreon.com crimeinsports and you get a shout out at the end of the regular show as well. That said, I think it's time everybody.
Jimmy Wissman
Here we go.
James Petregallo
Let's do this. I think it's time to sit back. Let's all clear the lungs, arms to the sky. Let's all shout. Shut up. Forgive me. Murder. Let's do this, everybody. Okay, let's go on a trip, shall we? We are going to South Carolina this week.
Jimmy Wissman
Okay, fine.
James Petregallo
This is Roebuck, S.C. r O E B U C K. Roebuck, Northwestern South Carolina. This is, this is nowhere near like Myrtle beach or anything like that. This is up toward North Carolina and you know, Tennessee and all that over there. So it is about an hour and a half to Charlotte. That's the closest major city. So you can tell it's up there. More about four hours to Nixonville, South Carolina. That's down by Myrtle Beach. Actually it was our last episode, the Ballad of Bambi, which was crazy. Definitely a crazy episode. People living in the, in the yard in a tent. And then there's murder. It's crazy. This is in Spartanburg county. Population here 3,482. It's a small town and it was even smaller back when we're going to talk about it. So it's very small. Median household income here. The rest of the country about 69,000. Here, 54,153 lower. Median home price 275,500. So not bad. But on 54 grand a year, that's a tough one. That's a tough one. History of this town, little bit of it. It was named for Revolutionary War officer Benjamin Roebuck. And Roebuck the town, not the man, is home to the Walnut Grove Plantation, which is a preserved 18th century farmhouse and tourist attraction. And one of the daughters of the original owners, Kate Moore, was a scout for General Daniel Morgan during the battle of Cow Pens. Yeah, she was rocking it out. The county was founded in 1785 and named after the Spartan rifles, which were a Spartan regiment, which was the local militia during the American Revolutionary War. So they're very much into the Revolutionary War in this part, which is nice because there's a lot of parts of South Carolina that are into a different war. The ship, the USS Spartanburg county is named after Spartanburg County.
Jimmy Wissman
Sure.
James Petregallo
So there's that reviews of this town. We've never been there. I don't know anything about Roebuck, South Carolina. Here's five stars. Roebuck is a small community that's quiet and easy to get around. It's tight knit, safe and serene. I've lived in Roebuck for nine years now and the most danger I've been in is when a snake poked its nose into the family backyard. Okay, okay. You really can't, no matter how much policing you have, I don't think it's gonna help that situation.
Jimmy Wissman
And you know, I think I.
James Petregallo
A rural snake.
Jimmy Wissman
Given the choice, I think I'd rather have something I can call the police on, depending on how poisonous that snake is.
James Petregallo
That's what we're talking about. Because I have like garter snakes in my house. They don't bother me. But all of my closest friends live in Roebuck as well. And the town has been a key part of growing up for all of us. The community keeps you grounded and the people are down to earth. It isn't that far from restaurants of the city making it easy to go to. And from what city, I have no idea what she. What they're talking. What. What do they consider a city? Yeah, I don't know.
Jimmy Wissman
What does a restaurant of the city sound and look like?
James Petregallo
Not sure. Four stars. I love Roebuck because of the atmosphere. Everyone feels like family. I love driving down the road and seeing huge fields of corn and wildflowers. I wish there was a little more to do and more stores and restaurants in Roebuck, but overall I love living here. And then it wouldn't be a small town that you love with corn. They put those strip malls in the fields where the corn and the wildflowers used to be and then you complain about that. Four stars. Small town. That's the first sentence we get it around five minutes from the pure countryside. Meaning pure, no anything uncut, uncut, fucking not stepped on at all. Yeah, Naturally cool and comfortable weather. Very close distance and easy access to Highway 221. Oh, well, now I'm gonna move. I wasn't gonna. I wasn't into it before, but now you say it's close to Highway 221. It's where everything's happening on the old Highway 221. Things to do. Here we have the festival. Festival. Come time. Travel with us to the back country of South Carolina. No, thanks.
Jimmy Wissman
No.
James Petregallo
How far? Depends on how far back we're going. How far?
Jimmy Wissman
70S, maybe.
James Petregallo
Experience life in 1781 during the American Revolutionary War with live demonstrations of cannon fire, cooking, spinning, camp life, music and more. Sounds like a 1781 themed joint here, which.
Jimmy Wissman
That's the wrong Renaissance fair, man.
James Petregallo
Yeah, that's. Yeah. You show up in your flowing shit dressed like a wizard, and they're like, the hell are you doing, boy? What's wrong with you? And then children's activities happening all day, including candle dipping, quill writing, tin punching, tricorn hats. You can't get the kids to stop quill writing. That's the thing. My kids, the whole growing up, it was just like, will you stop it with that quill already? Put it down. You know, play a video game or something. Get on fucking social media.
Jimmy Wissman
Wink asleep in here with all the tin.
James Petregallo
It's constant. The tin punching, my constant candle dipping. We have enough candles. Kids, with your tricorn hats, quill writing all over the place. It's enough, damn it.
Jimmy Wissman
What's a tricorn hat? I guess it's those corn that has the three different colors in it.
James Petregallo
Yeah, they make.
Jimmy Wissman
How do you make that shit a hat?
James Petregallo
Who the fuck knows what they're doing down there? Horn books. I don't know what that is. And sweet bags. What the fuck is that? Sweet bags. This sounds like they're just mad libbing words together. Now, Saturday also, there will be a bluegrass concert. They don't say who will be there, but they'll be playing bluegrass and they'll be live and in concert. That said, let's talk about some murder, shall we? All right, let's do this. Let's start out with a young lady here. Dana Shailene Fowler is. How she's born. Dana here. She's born November 16, 1967, in Spartanburg, which is nearby. That's the city. It's the county seat and all that kind of thing. And she's A really. She's an outgoing girl and all this type of thing. And grows up to be real pretty, too. I'll show you a picture of her here. She looks a lot like. Like married the children era. Christina Applegate. That's who she looks like. Very much like that.
Jimmy Wissman
Like, she looks like fun.
James Petregallo
Yeah, she looks. Yeah, she's a pretty girl. So she looks, like I said, like, in that. That picture's from, like, the late 80s too. She looks like. I mean, she was Christina Applegate. Yes. She does big nails and shit. Red nails. In high school, she met a young man and got married as soon as they graduated.
Jimmy Wissman
Well, smart move, man.
James Petregallo
Yeah. He's like, I'm gonna try to lock that down. But didn't work out very well. They had a daughter named Ashley right away. And then it fell apart after she gave birth, you know, because they were 19 and had a baby, and that's difficult. It's not an easy thing. Then she met Paul Michael Satterfield. He's known as Mike. Mike Satterfield. He's born in 1962, you know, about five years older. And he. I mean physically. I mean, to be shitty to the guy, but.
Jimmy Wissman
Oh, he won.
James Petregallo
God damn, this guy looks like a fucking inflated balloon.
Jimmy Wissman
Yeah, he's a Griffin.
James Petregallo
He's a very, very chunky man, let's just say. And not like an attract. Not like a hot guy either. You know what I mean? Not like, oh, if he was just, you know, he's big, but he's a handsome big. He's a. He looks like a guy, no matter what he weighed, he wouldn't look very good. And he also has an enormous gut that's hanging over his belly.
Jimmy Wissman
He looks like he's probably. He needs a doctor.
James Petregallo
Yeah, somebody needs to tell him some things big time. So they have a son named Brandon. And Mike owns his own H Vac company. So he's doing heating and air conditioning here. Now, this goes on for a while, and their marriage is okay for a few years. And then by 1995, though, they start to have some problems. Dana, when she was. When the kids were very young, she stayed home with the kids and Mike did his business. And Dana would work kind of part time here and there to supplement the income. But as the kids got school age, she decided she wanted to do something with herself. So she opened up her own beauty salon.
Jimmy Wissman
Great.
James Petregallo
It's a beauty and tanning place that she owns, so she does that. By 1995, though, Dana and Mike are separated here. They're talking about a Divorce. And they have moved out from each other and it's not going well here for them. But it's not acrimonious, really. I would assume not. Because on July 30, 1995, they're separated, they're living apart, everything like that. They spend the night of July 30th together with the children, eat dinner, watch TV and spend the night together at. On July 30th. So there's definitely like a. They're not, you know, in a heated divorce or anything like that. They're just not working out. So, by the way, a little about her salon. It's called Roebuck Beauty and Tanning Salon. And that's where she has to go. The next morning, she's got clients and shit coming in and he has to go install fucking vents.
Jimmy Wissman
So he's got to crawl in somebody's attic tomorrow.
James Petregallo
I don't think this guy's crawling in anybody's attic.
Jimmy Wissman
No, I don't trust my trusses.
James Petregallo
When they made a crawl space, they said, nobody, like three bills is going to crawl in here, right? No. That's enough crawl space for everybody. Right.
Jimmy Wissman
And if they are, they'll hire somebody, right?
James Petregallo
Yeah. This dude is not fitting through, you know, your fucking vent. I'll tell you that much. He's going to have feet kicking out of it if you try. So they get up the next morning, scramble to get ready for work and all that kind of thing, and they make plans to again have dinner that evening. So for a divorcing couple, things seem to be going pretty well.
Jimmy Wissman
They're getting along pretty well.
James Petregallo
They're getting along. So this is July 31, 1995, and it's down here. And she works a whole day. He goes to work, does his H Vac, and then he has the kids after work. And she has her salon and she has appointments here. A woman named Patty Taylor arrives at the salon at 6:30pm on July 31 for a hair appointment. And after she arrives, another woman named Diane Harris shows up selling products, a cleaning product to, you know, I'm sure to get dye off of shit or something like that. And made a demonstration for her. Let me show you what I'm doing. So she said, sure, she's doing this lady's hair. They both watch Diane Harris do a demonstration. And then Dana ends up purchasing a bottle of the cleaner from this woman.
Jimmy Wissman
Great.
James Petregallo
And this woman's like going door to door of all the businesses, trying to sell them cleaner. I don't know. So that sounds like a tough job. So she, Dana continues to work on this Patty Taylor's hair until a little before they kind of, she gets there about 6:30, they're going with the hair. By 7 they're really doing it because she's got to wash it and do all that kind of shit. And then by eight they finish up with the hair. So during this time, you know, she's finishing it up and Dana is sweeping and cleaning up the shop, getting ready to close it up for the night. Taylor pays her and Dana walks this Patty Taylor to the door and tells Patty Taylor that I have some clothes in the dryer and then I'm going to be right behind you leaving here right now. And so this woman said, oh, you want me to stay until you lock your shop up? That way you don't have to sit here by yourself and you know, it's dark out and that kind of thing. She said no, no, that's okay. She said I'll be right behind you. It's only, I have five minutes left on the dryer. So you know, don't, you don't have to stand here waiting for me. It's five minutes, don't worry about it. So she said she left the shop at about 8:10, 8:15, this Patty Taylor takes off. Now simultaneously to all this going on, there is a couple of guys hanging out at a bowling alley nearby, just chilling here. David Michael Pace and Jonathan Christian Vick and they're both 17 years old, went to high school together. I think David might be a year older than Jonathan but Jonathan is 17. Jonathan, Christian, Vic and you know, they became friends in high school and have been friends since then. Michael Pace or David? Michael Pace works at the bowling alley and Vic would come by a couple times a month on Friday or Saturday nights, you know, 17, cruising the bowling alley for all the chicks. So he, this particular night Jonathan Vick comes in to visit his friend at work and he's hanging out at the bowling alley he's wearing. Vic is where I want to call him Michael Vick, but he's Jonathan Vick. He's wearing blue jeans and light colored shirt. Vic is talking to his friend Pace about a lady named Dana, okay, who owns a hair salon. I know her and he said that I'm going to ask her out tonight. Oh, tonight he's 17. She's a married 27 year old woman with two kids who owns her own business. Attractive woman.
Jimmy Wissman
Yeah. About to be two time divorcee though. Like yeah, at 17 you're not scoring that broad.
James Petregallo
You are absolutely not scoring that broad absolutely have no chance at that shit whatsoever.
Jimmy Wissman
You may think she. You're.
James Petregallo
I'm sure she's nice to you when she cuts your hair, but that doesn't mean she wants to have sex with your teenage ass. So Vic had spoken about Dana to Pace on a couple of occasions, telling him, like, chicken, she's hot. You know that Dana that works at the hair salon, man, she's fine, isn't she?
Jimmy Wissman
Hot chicks, man.
James Petregallo
Hot chick over there. She might be the hottest chick in town. You know what I mean?
Jimmy Wissman
Probably, yeah.
James Petregallo
So she said, you know, this lady, she cuts my hair, man. She's real fine and all that kind of thing. So at the end, this particular night, Vic tells Pace that Dana was having problems with her husband. Heard she's having problems. That's how small of a town it is that some fucking high school kid knows when you're having problems with your husband. That's.
Jimmy Wissman
I feel like I got an in.
James Petregallo
Yeah, problems with her husband. And he said, I'm going to ask Dana out, and I hope she'll go on a date with me. Where? To the bowling alley. What are you talking about? What kind of date are you going to take this woman on? This guy laughed in Vic's face. Yes, that's the right answer, man. Said, you're out of your fucking mind. Said, she's older. You're way too young for her. You have nothing going on for you. You live with your parents. What are you going to do?
Jimmy Wissman
She's. She's been fucked by a man. She's not gonna want you ever.
James Petregallo
No. A fat man. She likes men, not boys. So Vic got pissed off at the guy. It was like, hey, fuck you. I got a shot with her. They were arguing at the bowling alley. This guy is, like, laughing, catching his breath. And Vic's like, that's bullshit. You don't think, I think she'll go out with me? I got a shot. I got a good shot as anybody. No, you don't.
Jimmy Wissman
Stupid Vic. You're so delusional, you don't even see that you've got a really great friend.
James Petregallo
In front of you that's laughing in your face. A good friend laughs in your face when you say dumb shit like that. So then you don't follow through with it because they laughed in your face.
Jimmy Wissman
You're like, oh, Trying to save you from embarrassment, man.
James Petregallo
Yes. So that's how it goes. Then he said he hoped that Dana. He said, I hope she'll say yes to my date. And then he said. He starts Graphically describing of what he'd like to do to her, including that he would, quote, bend her over her barber chair and perform sexual acts on her. And we can assume which ones he's talking about. He further then went on to state other sexual conduct he would like to have take place with Dana. I love how a court document puts that, by the way. This is what I would like to have take place with Dana. I'd like to have my penis and put it here. Yeah, that is hilarious.
Jimmy Wissman
Get whatever's closest.
James Petregallo
So this goes on. This goes on for an hour.
Jimmy Wissman
Wow.
James Petregallo
Back and forth. And this guy's just never. He never was like, maybe you do have a chance. He's like, you're out of your fucking mind. Yeah, she's hot. I'm sure we'd all like to do that, but give me a break here. So then Vic. This guy's work shift ends and Vic agrees to give his friend a ride home. During the drive, he continues to say, I'm serious, by the way. I'm going over there, I'm asking her out and she's gonna go out with me. Kept defending himself. And he was mad at Pace for laughing at him. Wow.
Jimmy Wissman
Such a good friend.
James Petregallo
He could never be a comedian, this guy. No, no. Self awareness. And then when someone laughs at you, you don't laugh. Also you get mad. Hey. How dare you to say I'm. He should go. I had this dumb thought once, and that would be a whole. That would be like a three minute bit where I thought I could fuck this hot lady who was 10 years older than me. So he. Vic dropped Pace off at about 6:45 or 7:00pm as Pace exited the vehicle, Vic told him that he was gonna go get his haircut Right now I'm gonna go get a haircut from Dana and see what happens.
Jimmy Wissman
You're gonna walk in at that time of night and expect a haircut?
James Petregallo
Well, that's what this guy says too. He says that. What? You're gonna. What the fuck? He said, it's kind of late. You're gonna. By the time you get there, you're still gonna get a haircut. And he said, oh, Dana keeps her salon open late and she knows I'm coming, so she'll be there for me. So the vehicle that Pace was dropped off in by Vick was a blue and white Ford Bronco with distinctive saw blade wheels. We know exactly what those wheels are. Yeah, you know, those ones like louvers almost. Yeah. So now a week earlier. Okay, let's talk about that a Week earlier, there was someone sitting in the chair named Darlene Reeves. While Dana was doing her hair at the salon, Jonathan Vick's mother called Dana and asked Dana to fix Vic's hair. Number one. This is how you know she's not going to fuck you. Your mom calls and makes your hair appointments.
Jimmy Wissman
Your mom calls and asks for fixes.
James Petregallo
Of your hair appointments, which is your mom's not setting up like dates for you here. This is not how this is working. So now this woman who was in the chair said that Dana was like exasperated by the situation, like, Jesus Christ, what the fuck? And told this after she hung up, told the customer that I'm not going to accommodate, that I'm not going to fix his hair. Fuck this. You know, they're pain in the ass. Now the saleswoman, Diane Harris here, the one who sold the bottle of cleanser while this was going on, she by the way, lived in Charlotte. She was basically. She's part of a. They sell like door to door, this cleaning supply. So they just take people to a location and drop off a bunch of salesmen and let them walk around and then drive them an hour 45 back to Charlotte.
Jimmy Wissman
Move this shit. Move the product.
James Petregallo
Fuck, man, that's brutal. Like an old vacuum salesman or something. So she said she went to the salon 6:30 or 6:40 after giving the demonstration and made a sale with her. And she said she was scheduled to meet back at her designated spot to be picked up with the other salespeople at 8:30pm so she was to be the last salesperson picked up before heading back to Charlotte. After leaving the shop, Diane Harris walked around the area making calls on different houses and businesses, just trying to figure it out, trying to sell some cleaner. So at about 8:10, she walked through the parking lot of the salon after she had already been there an hour earlier, at which time she saw Dana through the window of the salon and spoke to her. And she said she appeared to be cleaning and that Dana waved at her as she walked by, like, oh, you're the cleaning supply lady. There you go. I think she was using her things. So she, this woman continued to try to sell things before heading back to the pickup spot. At 8:30. As she reached the salon parking lot, she noticed that the lights were on, but the blinds were now down. So she had walked by before, blinds were up, waving. Now she walks back, the blinds are down. At the same time she hears thumping sounds coming from inside the building. When she looked around, she observes a man falling out of the salon's window. Oh, a man falling out of the window. No, no, no. Open window falling out. The screen pops out, the screens already out and you see a man climbing out of a window. Harris, she was like what the fuck? And got scared and threw all of her shit down and ran. Oh, she just took off through all of her fucking cleaning supplies, everything. Just threw it down and laugh and left. As she ran around the building in one direction, she said the man ran around the other direction and they came face to face on the other side of the building like a bad cartoon. So Harris then ran out into the middle of the street and started screaming because she was scared of this guy. She's a real. That's a, that's a wild reaction.
Jimmy Wissman
Yeah.
James Petregallo
There was no words exchanged.
Jimmy Wissman
Yeah.
James Petregallo
So she ran into a home. She just busted into somebody's house, ran in, slammed the door behind her, locks it and tells the residents to call 911. Because Dana over here, this lady at the beauty shop needs help. That's what she says. Okay. So she said that the man she saw coming out of the window and again at the back of the building was the same man and he was white and looked crazy. Well, crazy white boy jumping out the window, that's all I got. He was wearing a gray or white T shirt, pair of blue jeans and a pair appeared to be between 20 and 30 years old. Now the, there's a guy named Michael Crook and he was driving towards Spartanburg at 8:30 when he observed, he observed Diane Harris. He saw, said he saw a black woman walking and then saw a white male who was bent down and was looking back toward Dana Salon. And he was wearing grayish colored blue jeans and a grayish colored T shirt. This is all the same guy. So the police arrive based on this 911 call. They don't even know what the hell this. You don't know if she's being paranoid or what's going on here. But they get there about 8:50, they arrive at the scene here or the call comes in then. And then they get there about 10 minutes later, 9:00, a deputy Burnett found the only door to the establishment is partially cracked and a screen from a window is on the ground with the window open. Hey everybody, just gonna take a quick break from the show and tell you a little bit about our safest sponsors. Simply safe. And everyone has routines that you go through make you feel good, make you feel secure, like you have control over the world. And a lot of times you don't, but you do if you're us. And your routine includes arming your SimpliSafe home security system. You know that's gonna do well for you. So when we're heading out, both of us, we both have them in our houses, our studios. You lock up for the night. Yeah. This simple step does more than just protect you. Gives you peace of mind. You're gonna feel good about leaving, and then you're gonna know it's gonna be the same when you get back. You'll sleep more soundly. I can leave the house with confidence. And it's amazing how a push of a button can give you that kind of confidence. And with Simplisafe, we love it. Like I said, it's in our studios, in our homes. It's really easy to install too. You can get professional instruments installation also. But if we can put it up, you can put it up. Put it that way. Visit simplisafe.comsmall to claim 50% off a new system with a professional monitoring plan and get your first month free. That's simplisafe.com/s I m p l I safe.com small there's no safe like Simplisafe.
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And now back to the show.
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Jimmy Wissman
Now back to the show. Okay.
James Petregallo
He's like, okay, this is strange. The lights are all off in the shop. So he took he Went in and took a flashlight, which was good. He didn't touch anything. Decent police work. Shined his flashlight into a combination all around the shop. And then he got to the bathroom, laundry room, which is a combination room here. Fucking shines the flashlight and he finds Dana in there. Not okay. She is. Has a strap around her neck from a duffel bag and is hanging from the hot water heater with her feet two inches off the ground.
Jimmy Wissman
Oh, no.
James Petregallo
Yeah, not good. She's covered in cuts and bruises. Her feet, face and hair are covered in blood. Yeah, this is not good. She's dead. She. He said her clothes were pulled away from her body. Her head was, quote, dramatically cocked to one side, based on. Jesus, man. It's. It's fucking horrible. Hanging from a strap around her neck, which was connected to the hot water heater. It appeared to have been that she had been strangled with a duffel bag strap and was left hanging from that. Like we said, bruises all over her, an inch or two off the ground. Blood in her hair, on her face. Bruises and cuts on her face. And her tongue appeared to protrude from her mouth.
Jimmy Wissman
Fuck, man.
James Petregallo
A white T shirt on the top of her body was covered in blood that she was wearing. And she was naked from the. From the waist down with her pants on her left ankle. Yeah, it's. It's fucking horrifying, man. The investigation of the scene reveals all the blood was contained in the bathroom where she was found. So there's not like a. Another hunk of blood out in the, you know, salon area or anything like that. The room showed evidence that a struggle had certainly taken place in there. There's blood on walls. There's. It looks like. Yeah, this is. This. This wasn't easy. Her pocketbook, wallet, and checkbook are all in the salon.
Jimmy Wissman
Not robbery.
James Petregallo
As well as the business cash book and checkbox or check cash box and checkbook. And the wallet and cash box together contained over $200 in cash. So if you're looking to rob a place, that's not the shit you leave me. I don't think they just stole some new cleaning product and took off here. So the wounds here. The pathologist performs an autopsy on Dana and noted that she had a deep abrasion on her forehead as well as other superficial abrasions and numerous contusions about her head, neck, upper chest, elbows, arm, wrist, knees and ankle. This like she fucking was pushed out of a car. Like that's. Those are a lot of wounds to fuck, man. Her hyoid bone appeared fractured Indicating that she'd probably been strangled or at least had significant pressure around her neck at some point. Here, they said that could have been caused by a ligature or manual strangulation. The pathologists believe that she was probably strangled manually as well as with the use of a ligature. Examination of her brain also revealed extensive hemorrhaging caused by blunt force trauma. And she was sexually assaulted as well. So the violence of the attack made the cops think this and the fact that nobody stole anything makes them really think this is personal as shit like this. Even if it's just somebody off the street that comes in to try to rape somebody, they probably grab 200 bucks on the way out too. You know what I mean? I don't think it would be outside of their moral spectrum to be able to steal money after you've raped and killed. So they obviously, they said this seems like it's got to be somebody that knows her that's very angry at her. So a state agent, the sled agent here. What's the state investigative thing? They. An agent here, an expert in the area of DNA and serology, or serology, said that she processed the crime scene for fluids. She examined the body and noticed that there was possible semen in the victim's pubic region here. So remembering that she had seen this when she processed the scene, she later tested the evidence from a rape kit which contained pubic hair combings, hoping to find semen. The sample tested positive for semen. Okay. And they were able to develop a DNA profile from this semen sample that they have. So they have a DNA profile. So now they can. They're just. Now it's just matching whatever. So they're talking to witnesses here, trying to figure something else out. They have a guy named Jerry Mills who said he knew about the shop and, you know, knew where it was. And it was in the same area of where he worked. He said he drove by the area around 5 or 5:30 on that afternoon and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. However, just before dusk, he drove back through and observed a Ford Bronco parked in a place where his employer did not allow parking because it was by his job. And he said none of his coworkers drove a vehicle like that, so that was somebody else. He pulled up closer to the car to check it out, but no one was around the vehicle. He was gonna tell them, hey, you're not allowed to park here. He described the Bronco as a late 80s car, blue with white or light cream colored top with quote, nice Rims on the tires that did not look like factory rims and may have been like a razor type of rim, he said, or saw blade. You never know. Blade. So they interview Diane Harris, the saleswoman here. She nervously explained that she came face to face, heard the thumping sound, found the someone on the ground in front of an open window. She said, quote, I seen a man come out of that window with his shirt pulled up like he had fell. She said she ran to the left, he ran to the right. And then she said they came face to face. She said she saw him for a split second. She said, quote, he looked crazy over and over again. He looked crazy, he looked crazy. That's all she would say. He was white with brown hair, wearing a light colored T shirt and jeans. And that's when she ran to a nearby trailer to call 911. So she was all fucked up about it. But she also gives a lot of details to create a composite sketch. And we'll get to that in a minute. First person they have to really talk to is Mike, is the husband. They're in the middle of a divorce, so. Dead lady, middle of a divorce. We're chit chatting with you. Doesn't match this lady's description, but we're going to talk about it. He said he first learned something was wrong about 9pm when fellow church, a fellow church member of his called to say that officers were all around his wife's beauty salon. What's going on? So he got in his car, went to the salon, and the deputies wouldn't let him inside, wouldn't tell him anything that was going on. Uh, then they talked to him and he downplayed the stories that their marriage was in trouble. Um, he said, we were just together last night. We're gonna have dinner tonight. This is crazy. I don't know what you're talking about. And so they were saying they were thinking maybe he hired somebody to do this.
Jimmy Wissman
Sure.
James Petregallo
He obviously couldn't have done it himself just based on popping out of that window, which would have been physically impossible for him. Literally, he couldn't fit through that window. It's a trailer window you're not fitting through. He would have probably taken the whole wall down with him if he tried to fucking climb out of that thing. So that's what they're wondering. So they said, shit. There's a lot of questions here. He supplies a solid alibi for himself. He's home with the kids, who are old enough to say, we didn't leave. And dad was here all night because her daughter Ashley's eight at that point, so she's one there. And he passes a polygraph test as well.
Jimmy Wissman
That's good.
James Petregallo
Okay, so they clear him as a suspect. He's got an alibi. Polygraph test there haven't been, like, fighting over the divorce or anything, so they don't know. Now, let's go back to Jonathan. Christian Vick here. Remember this guy? Well, Pace, his friend, he said the next time he saw him was a few days later at a pool hall. He ran into Vic, and he stated that Vic walked up and bumped into him in a serious manner. Vic then told Pace, if I tell anybody, he would kill me. And he said, what the. About what? What are you talking about? And Vic said that, Pace, he said, you know or you'll find out. Oh, so a couple of days or to a few weeks after the incident, we don't know. A few days or a week or something after this pool hall deal. Pace realized what Vic did not want him to discuss was when he saw a report on the news that described a vehicle similar to Vic's and showed a sketch that resembles Vic as well. We'll show you in a second here. So the detectives then turned their attention to the witness reports of seeing a white and blue vehicle in the area which he drives. So they looked all around Roebuck for the vehicle and turned up a possible match. Marianne Vick, one of Dana's customers and Jonathan's mother, has a similar car. So they said the Vic vehicle wasn't the one. Witness said the Vic vehicle wasn't a perfect match with the one he'd seen, though. Which people have terrible memories when it comes to cars colors, especially at dusk. You have no idea what color a car is at dusk.
Jimmy Wissman
No one does nothing. Seems like it sticks out a bit.
James Petregallo
It sticks out a bit. But he said it's sort of like it. But it's a small town. There isn't another one that's kind of like it. But the rims are different. It's not like that. It's the only one.
Jimmy Wissman
Bronco looks like a Blazer as much as it looks like a Dodge Ram Charger. They're all.
James Petregallo
They're all similar. And at dusk, you have no idea what color or what model it is. Who the hell knows? So you know. Well, we all know a Bronco after the OJ anybody.
Jimmy Wissman
The 80s one.
James Petregallo
Not the. Anyone could pick out. Bronco had tail lights after that. But Besides that.
Jimmy Wissman
The 92, it was a 94. I don't know. It was a 92. It's a 92 Bronco or 90 Bronco.
James Petregallo
I think he had a 93. The one that 93. The one that OJ had was a 93. Yeah.
Jimmy Wissman
And you can't find it?
James Petregallo
No, no, they burned them all. Exploded.
Jimmy Wissman
No, I mean, people keep them.
James Petregallo
No, I know. I'm kidding. So they ended up. They're awaiting the results of the rape kit and all that kind of thing. They spend months interviewing all of Dana's customers. All of them. I mean, every. Basically everybody in town is interviewed over this. There's nobody getting away from this. If you're not like an old lady who didn't go to her salon, you're getting questioned. So three months after the murder, David Michael Pace anonymously calls the cops and says, jonathan, Vic, and hangs up. Basically, anonymous call. You're looking for this guy. So that is wild. Then it was on a TV show that he saw the murder. So he contacted law enforcement for a second time. Again, anonymously giving this person's name, which doesn't help. It's hard to get. It's really hard to get, like any kind of warrant based on an anonymous tip. That's the problem. There's no. Nothing to attribute it to. It could be somebody's enemy going, it's them. And then you go arrest them. That's crazy.
Jimmy Wissman
Girlfriend that hates her husband or boyfriend who knows anything.
James Petregallo
Yeah. How many people called and said, I think my boyfriend's Ted Bundy? So many fucking thousands. Literally thousands of people called. So on a third occasion, during an unrelated bowling alley trip here, he ran into a cop and informed an officer, Pace does, that he might know who was responsible for Dana's murder and gave the officer a name, but wouldn't give the officer his name. Again, anonymous. He's like, listen, check this guy out. That's all I'm gonna say. So that doesn't really work. So the composite sketch here, she did a couple of different composite sketches on two different occasions a month after the murder. And then two years later, she was asked to identify the man from a six person photo lineup, but pick different men in both of them. So she's not a big help here. Here is the sketch, by the way. Okay. It's not the husband. We fucking know that.
Jimmy Wissman
No, that's. His lip is very interesting, but that can just be trying to be artistic.
James Petregallo
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't know, but it looks like a 30s man.
Jimmy Wissman
Yeah.
James Petregallo
Kind of hard.
Jimmy Wissman
Yeah. Hardened, square jaw.
James Petregallo
Yeah. Mean looking, stern, I would say. So the 1996 here. Aaron Popkin purchases a 1998 blue and white Ford Bronco with saw blade wheels from the Vick family.
Jimmy Wissman
Really?
James Petregallo
Yes. He said he met with Jonathan Vick at Jonathan's job after seeing an ad for the car. But when Popkin offered to loan Vic one of his cars while his mechanic kept the Bronco for inspection, he said, I'm gonna take it and have his guy look at it. You can use my car while we do that. Vic told Popkin that he was suspicious that Popkin might actually be a police officer. So, no, this guy's like, what are you talking about? I'm just trying to buy your Bronco.
Jimmy Wissman
Do you want to sell the car or not, man?
James Petregallo
And even if I was a cop, I want to buy a Bronco. Who cares? Vic is very suspicious, so they worked out an alternate arrangement for inspection of the car.
Jimmy Wissman
Weird.
James Petregallo
1997. This case is on Unsolved Mysteries now.
Jimmy Wissman
Okay?
James Petregallo
So it gets national attention here. That brings in the FBI and John Douglas, actual mindhunter himself here. John Douglas, he does a workup and does a profile on this and says that he thinks that the killer is probably an average guy, nothing special about him. He said the person responsible is not a ghoulish individual that you would, you know, blood dripping off his teeth. Not that kind of guy. He's a guy you would see every day, doing normal things. He spent more than 25 hours, John Douglas did, reviewing the case and found the killer was probably waiting until darkness to enter the hair and tanning salon to do this. But it's not a guy that you would expect, basically. So a year goes by, a couple years go by, obviously, then they get a potential tip. A tip from an inmate who said his cellmate, Russell Quinn, carries a picture of Dana Satterfield around with him in jail and said he was involved in the crime.
Jimmy Wissman
What?
James Petregallo
That's not normal at all. Now, police know that cellmate shit can be bad, but when Harris. Then Harris the saleswoman identified a mug shot of Quinn from a photo array as the man she saw jump from the shop window. Okay, so now they're like, okay, but this is also, like, the third person she's picked out of a lineup that's a different person, so that's not helpful.
Jimmy Wissman
But he's got a picture of her. For real.
James Petregallo
Got a picture of. They go. There's a real easy way to find out. Yeah, open that mouth, Chief. Or. I don't know if they did blood back then or what, but swipe it up. They did the DNA. Not a match.
Jimmy Wissman
Why would he do that.
James Petregallo
Not a match, they said. The prosecutor said, science doesn't lie. Back to square one. Like, nothing we could do with that.
Jimmy Wissman
He's just a lunatic.
James Petregallo
He can admit to it all day and night. Doesn't matter. He didn't do it. So lucky they have DNA. Twenty years earlier, they'd have just convicted him of murder. It would have been done. That's it. There's no anything. So 2005 comes around. Yes, I said that, right. 2005, 10 years later. Now, Dana's daughter is now 18 years old. Ashley is her name. She's now 18 years old. Looks a lot like her mom, too. Blonde and all that kind of thing. Yeah, she goes to get an oil change for her car. Simple, you know, normal thing, just living her life, you know, not looking for her mother's murderer. At this point in time, she's living her life. It's 10 years ago. Well, guess who works at the gas station or at the service station where she does? Vic, it is Michael Pace. Remember him? Our buddy there. He works and Ashley comes in. He sees Ashley and learned that she was Dana's daughter and felt horrible. He saw her and was like, oh, this poor girl's never. She lost her mom when she was a kid. And like, she. He feels terrible. So he contacts the cops again, this time actually giving him his identity and the reasons why he thinks they should look into Jonathan Vick. So now the cops are like, okay, now we have a real person with corroboration of something. Now we can get a warrant here and enough information to force Vic to submit a DNA sample. Because you have to get a warrant if someone doesn't want to do that. So he does this. They interview, first of all, while they're waiting for the DNA, they interview Vic's former girlfriend who spoke of his violence. That's not good. She also said that he'd threatened her as they drove past Dana's shop one time.
Jimmy Wissman
What?
James Petregallo
I don't know what that means. I will fucking hang you from a hot water heater like that hairstylist.
Jimmy Wissman
That is crazy that that's what happened to her. And then they didn't get somebody right now?
James Petregallo
No.
Jimmy Wissman
That would fuck me up every day for. Until they caught.
James Petregallo
Yeah. So that at the same time, in the last 10 years, he had joined the Marines. He's had several jobs. He assaulted both male and female fellow Marines while he was in the Corps and was punished on two separate occasions for convictions on articles of assault and eventually received a general discharge.
Jimmy Wissman
Couldn't even take four years of this.
James Petregallo
Place, let's part ways type of deal. Yeah. His former supervisor called him a pathological liar with a violent temper, saying he would bait female Marines. And bait is in quotes. That's what he. That's his words. He would bait female Marines through flattery for dates and then change his behavior once they got out. He would be mean to them and hit them and shit. One said, quote, I had one that came. This is the sergeant major here. I had one that came to me. And she said, sergeant Major Smith, there's something wrong with him. We went out and he's a whole different person. He's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. So they were like, interesting. So they get a written statement from Pace. So they have everything. Now they're just waiting on the DNA sample here. And they get that in. And the DNA sample matches his profile from the semen sample found at the scene. They said it's. They. The probability of randomly selecting an unrelated individual having the DNA profile matching the semen was about 1 in 900 million. So it's either him or some guy in Sri Lanka. We don't know one of the two. We could pick which one, but, I.
Jimmy Wissman
Mean, that means there's only seven other people on the planet that could have done it.
James Petregallo
That could have done it. Yeah. And they probably don't. Aren't anywhere near Roebuck, South Carolina, on the planet. On the planet. Probably not in Roebuck, South Carolina, driving a fucking Bronco that fits everybody's. And also who talked about how bad he wanted to fuck the victim, either.
Jimmy Wissman
Yeah. And if it was somebody else, the odds of those two people being in the same town roll Unbelievable. Way higher.
James Petregallo
What are those odds? Anybody out there good at math? Let's figure that shit out.
Jimmy Wissman
Wow.
James Petregallo
So October 24, 2005, he is arrested. Hauled him in here. By then, he's a married man with a baby.
Jimmy Wissman
Oh, no.
James Petregallo
Has a history of arrests for both domestic violence and vandalism outside of the military, as well as in the military, a history of antagonizing coworkers and being fired from jobs. Oh, and then there's one other thing. In 2002, his girlfriend disappeared and it was never solved and she was never found.
Jimmy Wissman
He has a woman in his life that disappeared and we don't know where she is.
James Petregallo
His fiance disappeared. What? Yes. Okay. Since then, he's lived. I'm going to give you this. I'm going to give you a guess of two states he lived in in the last 10 years.
Jimmy Wissman
Florida and Ohio.
James Petregallo
Nope. Nope. You're Close.
Jimmy Wissman
Yeah, it's obvious.
James Petregallo
You're sitting in it. We're sitting in it. He lived in New York, Arizona. Oh, I'm at your house. What are you talking about? Do you know whose house we're at right now? Jesus Christ.
Jimmy Wissman
Jesus Christ. Where did he live here?
James Petregallo
I don't know. He was in the military, so wherever they moved him there.
Jimmy Wissman
Oh my God, James. He could be right down the fucking beach.
James Petregallo
So, I mean, he was right here. So yeah, he ended up in Florida and Arizona were the two places he lived which seemed to fit in perfectly. Florida? Yeah, Florida and Arizona. One of Vic's cellmates at a local detention center, Steve Vaughn, was housed in a cell with VIC for approximately eight or nine weeks starting in February 2006. They discussed their pending charges. One night this Vaughn guy got what he called a bad phone call from his wife and was upset. I assume when you're in prison it's probably a few of those going on.
Jimmy Wissman
I bet you get a lot of that phone call.
James Petregallo
Oh man, I would. You don't even want to be married if you're in prison, cuz that's just gonna be. Those are horrible phone calls. You feel awful. I'm sure she's yelling at you. It's. Nothing's good.
Jimmy Wissman
That's gotta be a mind fuck every day if you're a. Oh, brutal. You're married.
James Petregallo
Brutal. So in discussing the call with Vic, Vaughn asked him whether there was anything in his life or. Or a day in his life that he would take back if he could. He's like anything you would ever take back in your life. And Vic said it would be the day he went over to Dana's beauty shop. Vic told this guy that he drove his vehicle over there, but parked across the road because Dana was married and he didn't want her husband to see him or his vehicle. Even though he gets his hair cut there.
Jimmy Wissman
Yeah.
James Petregallo
He further indicated he exited the building through a window because he was scared. He said that he. He recalled having a conversation with Dana, but he blacked out and doesn't recall anything else that happened while in the shop. That's what he said. Now there's a lot of details in there that only this person, like where he parked and all that kind of shit. So by the way, he wants bond. He wants to get out. What? Yeah. Yeah, he says that he, his whole family, they're all, you know, trying to get him out. They say he needs to be free and at home with his six month old daughter. Let's keep him away from her probably forever. Okay. And the mother of her, they said, well, he can't. If you don't let him out, then he can't fulfill his dream and become a minister.
Jimmy Wissman
Okay.
James Petregallo
All righty.
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James Petregallo
One relative said she just wanted to cook him his favorite meals again. Isn't that nice? Oh, my God. That is fucking unbelievable. About 30 members of Satterfield's family presented letters to the judge protesting his release. And the judge went, we're going to go with that. We're gonna go with you. Suspected rapist murderer. Yeah. So. April 30th, 2006, waiting on his trial. He's incarcerated and waiting on trial. And apparently he. Vic draped his feet out of a food hatch of the cell door, you know, a little door that they put the food through. And then became belligerent when the jailer asked him to please remove his feet so they could put the food through. So he blocks this. When Officer Derek Jefferson Green opened the hatch to give him his food at the Spartanburg County Detention center, then Corporal Alvin Jennings Jr. Opened the cell door in order to stop Vic from blocking the hatch. They said Jennings and Vic then became involved in an altercation in which Vic yelled, I'm going to kill you and your fucking family. Which obviously, I don't know how he's going to get to the family from prison. Probably not. So when the officers opened the door, he continued his aggressive behavior, made the verbal threats. They sprayed him with a quick burst of pepper spray. And he continued fighting and fighting until they contained him. And he was charged with assaulting local correctional employees and threatening the life of a public official. So the other young lady who's missing, Heather Rena Sellers. S E L L A R S Vic is a suspect in the 2002 disappearance of then 20 year old Heather Sellers, who was his former fiance and the last person to have seen her anywhere. Sellers grandmother, Norma Jean Swan, told deputies she dropped Sellers off at work at the Waffle house at Highway 9 in the I85. Jesus, that's depressing, man. Can you imagine? Fuck. At about 2:00pm to work second shift at the Waffle House that sits on two fucking interstates. Oh, God. September 24th, 2002. And the family never heard from her again. So the mother told investigators, or the grandmother told investigators that Sellers had a small bag of clothes and intended to spend the night with an aunt. A report said that she left her aunt's house with Vic. Oh, she had Gone to her aunt's house. Mom dropped her off, she did her shift. Then she went to her aunt's house and left with Vic, who witnesses said they went to the Rainbow Lounge and then to Cocktails and Dreams, which is the fucking name of the movie in the terrible Tom Cruise movie. Cocktail. That's the bar that they were opening. Cocktails and Dreams. Yeah, they had like a pink. A pink logo and. Yeah, it's the shittiest movie and the dumbest idea for anything. And that's what they did, so. And Dreams and Dreams. Because it was his dream to have his own place of Cocktails and Dreams and he wrote it on a cocktail napkin. Fucking awful movie. But Elizabeth Shue was in it and she was cute at the time, so why not? Anyway, they said that witnesses said shortly after she disappeared, when they talked and were kind of canvassing the area, they said that Heather was on drugs at the time and had also not picked up her paycheck at the Waffle House. Yeah, I guess that's. They said. They said that they went to two local bars. A photograph of Fick is posted with the case summary as well. In the thing, like, here's our only suspect, basically. Her last paycheck was for $81, by the way. Oh, man. So they. They had broken off their engagement two weeks earlier, but we're still seeing each other. They did find Heather Sellers car at the bottom of a river, but her body was never found at the bottom of a river. Yeah, she's not alive, let's say. No. So she. She's. That's just a mystery. So. Trial for Dana's murder, November 2006. Now, because he committed the crime when he was 17, he's not eligible for the death penalty.
Jimmy Wissman
Okay. Because we can try him for as an adult still, right?
James Petregallo
Yo, yeah, absolutely. But he can't get the. He can't get the death penalty. That's. That's not one thing. So it's a four day trial, not very long defense opening here a little bit. The lead defense attorney said that, yes, Dana Satterfield was brutally murdered. And that a pubic hair was found on her body though. And that pubic hair does not match Vic. The problem is also there was a struggle in the bathroom. This all happened in the bathroom?
Jimmy Wissman
Forget it.
James Petregallo
So how many pubes are in there? Yeah, it's a bathroom.
Jimmy Wissman
Murdered in a barber shop, Barbershop's floor.
James Petregallo
What? She was. She was. She was. That's the other thing they said. She.
Jimmy Wissman
It may not have been a pub. You don't know.
James Petregallo
She dragged across the floor, too. So they said there's tons of different hair all over. She had, like, 15 people's hair on her.
Jimmy Wissman
I'm sure she did. Yeah.
James Petregallo
So they said that didn't belong to Vic, and they said that that's crazy. And they said no one can. No test can show when the semen made contact with her body as well. So telling the jury, you keep an open mind. So their theory is he came in, said, yo, what's up? You want to fix my hair? And she was like, not till I fuck you. And then they went in the back, and he gave her the fucking business. And then he was like, peace out, lady. And then while she was sitting there in the afterglow, some other guy came in and strangled her.
Jimmy Wissman
Somebody that is just popping pubes.
James Petregallo
While she still had a fucking. Yeah, while she still had her pants around her ankle. He came in and then. And then raped her and dropped pubes everywhere, but didn't come because only that guy came. Okay. Yeah. They said DNA analysis cannot put a time frame on when it got there. Like, she was cutting hair all night with sperm in her pubes.
Jimmy Wissman
We got no evidence that she's ever had sex with him willingly.
James Petregallo
That's none. And his friend laughed at him when he even suggested it was a possibility. So not happening. Fuck. So a customer said that she was a customer. Reeves here, she was a customer and a friend of Dana, and that she was in the salon to have her hair cut on July 25, the week before, on Tuesday, when this Reeves was in the chair. That's when she also got another call from Vic's mother. Dana gets a call from Vic's mother, Marianne. Now, Reeves, who also knows Marianne Vick and had talked to her on the phone before, knew it was Marianne on the phone because Dana was behind Reeves when the phone call came, and she recognized Marianne's voice. That's how small of a town this is.
Jimmy Wissman
I know. We're Marianne impersonating Marianne around here.
James Petregallo
No, Jay Moore doesn't know her. No fucking no shit. Where's Rich Little when this is going on? So Reeves was asked why Marianne was calling, and then there's an objection. In the middle of all that, the trial court overruled the objection. And she testified this, quote, she wanted Dana to look at Vic's hair. That, you know, I don't know if he put something in it or had someone, something. But she told her that it wouldn't take but about 10 minutes of her time. And Marianne could not. Excuse me, uh, Dana could not do it that day. And had stated to Marianne that she was not able to do it, but if she would call her back. You know, it's been a timeframe, so I don't know if she said, come there the next day or to call her back or what. So when asked about what she remembered about the conversation, she stated the conversation was to call back and she would take a look at it, but she could not do it that day. She said, I just heard a voice. And when Dana hung up, she obviously, Marianne hung up on her because there was no goodbye. And the victim, Dana, turned around to me, and she just took a breath and said, mary Ann Vick, like you all know, she's a pain in the ass. Yep. So they objected again and all this type of thing. And Reeves stated that Dana told her that it was Marianne Vic. At which point Reeves told Dana that she knew because she recognized the voice. When Dana asked Reeves if Reeves knew them, Reeves told her she did. And then she said. Dana said to me. She said, well, I won't do that anymore. She said, that's the last time. That. The last time he was here. That was the case. That 10 minutes of your time. And it took her an hour and a half. And she doesn't have time to do this.
Jimmy Wissman
Yeah.
James Petregallo
Now they also deny a state motion to preclude defense attorneys from introducing evidence that Mike Satterfield's fingerprints were found on the water heater where the body was found.
Jimmy Wissman
It's her business, right?
James Petregallo
It's her. Well, Mike Satterfield testified in court that he installed the water heater two months before his wife's death. So my fingerprints are gonna be on.
Jimmy Wissman
I installed a water heater in my wife's business.
James Petregallo
I'm an H Vac guy. It's probably on the heater and the air conditioner also.
Jimmy Wissman
I would bet it's things I do.
James Petregallo
Yeah. And also, another witness had told jurors that the man he saw crouch down near the crime scene was way too small to have been Mike Satterfield. Because Mike, you'd see from space, he's a giant fat guy. I'm not trying to be a dick. This saves him in this. He's not. If you say, oh, you know, six foot, average build, whatever, could be anybody. It's not Mike. That's one person. It's not. If you saw Mike, first thing out of your mouth would be, big guy, big belly, enormous man, big fat guy. So I think he was home with his children as well. And they don't Think that he hired a teenager to go rape and kill his wife when he's trying to get with her. So the testimony and evidence all together shows that Vic had a sexual desire to be with Dana and intended to visit her on the night of the murder. Vic threatened to kill the witness who could provide this information. He said, I'll kill you. A person matching the description of Vic was seen exiting the salon before she was beaten, before her body was found. A car similar to him in make, model, color, with distinctive rims was found around there. He confided to a cellmate all of the details, everything, and his DNA matched the semen found on her to the tune of 1 in 900 million. A lot of evidence here. The closings prosecutor said this. I want you to speak the truth in a voice so loud that it will be heard in years to come. It's eight female jurors and four male jurors, by the way. And I want you to speak the truth so it bounds back through the halls of history to a beauty shop in Roebuck and a young mother hanging by a strap. I want this courtroom to be full of justice when you come back. Okay? That's the silliest thing I've ever heard a person say. I want this courtroom to be full of a feeling or of justice is. You don't get a more nebulous term than justice to say. I'd like it to be full of. It's just a weird thing to say. Then he said, jonathan Vick is a danger to our community, and he doesn't ever deserve to see the light of day. So the defense said, come on. You know, the defense said, please look past the emotion and look at the evidence. And then forget that. Also, you'd have to say. And then also forget all of that. And then just said that Vic's fingerprints were not found at the crime scene and that DNA tests showed a pubic hair found on Dana's lower body did not belong to Vic. They said, clearly what happened to her was tragic, but convicting the wrong person doesn't serve any purpose.
Jimmy Wissman
You just got a point. You don't want to convict the wrong person.
James Petregallo
Oh, you never want to convict the wrong person.
Jimmy Wissman
But I think we're okay.
James Petregallo
I think we got this one. And the jury really thinks so because it took them less than 20 minutes of deliberation to come out with a verdict. I mean, that's not. They didn't even get a drink of water. No, they sat down.
Jimmy Wissman
Nobody has to pee.
James Petregallo
They sat down. They always do. A straw poll at first, just to see where we stand. They sat down. Straw poll. All right, then, we're done.
Jimmy Wissman
Let's go home.
James Petregallo
Peace out. That's it. He is found guilty on all counts murder, criminal sexual conduct, and kidnapping as well.
Jimmy Wissman
Oh.
James Petregallo
So the prosecutor said later on. That's the jury's way of sending a message. It's less than the time. It's less than the time it takes to watch a sitcom. That's how reprehensible we think you are. I could have fucked an episode of Friends. Lasts longer than this. Fuck you.
Jimmy Wissman
We didn't even get to the Soup Nazi.
James Petregallo
Didn't even get there. So sentencing here, the prosecutor said, only by his good fortune. Only by his good fortune was he 17 at the time he committed it, or else we would be at the start of the death penalty seeking phase. Vic's wife Caroline pleads with the judge prior to sentencing for the minimum sentence. Noting that she and her husband have a young daughter at home. She said, I know he didn't do this. I know he didn't. Sobbing and crying, you're a single mom, lady. Wow. You are fucked. Vic says this. He steps up and says, I got something to say. Quote, she did not get justice today. She will not as long as I sit behind bars.
Jimmy Wissman
Is that right?
James Petregallo
Wow. So the judge says, let's make that a good long time. You, sir, may fuck off. Life with parole.
Jimmy Wissman
Okay.
James Petregallo
Okay. So his parole eligibility date starts October 24, 2035, is that right? That is when he's eligible for a parole.
Jimmy Wissman
Years, I guess, huh?
James Petregallo
Yeah. Now, okay. He is sentenced there. Now Heather Sellers family is there as well, okay? Because they believe they just have their laser. I'm surprised if one of her brothers didn't murder this guy already or something. Like, how the fuck do you let this guy walk around? I don't know how you left a.
Jimmy Wissman
Woman hanging from a hot water heater just a few years before.
James Petregallo
Oh, yeah, this is his jam here. So Sellers grandmother attended the court. She's the one who dropped her off at the Waffle House. Norma Jean throughout the week and smiled as the verdict was announced. She later stood outside the courtrooms alongside Cora Kent, her granddaughter's friend. You know, the murdered woman's friend or missing woman's friend, who was also Vic's ex girlfriend as well. Kent said that justice was served. She said they should have given him the chair, though. It's an eye for. I'm in for an eye for an eye. As the Vick family left, Vic's younger brother Then threatened her, what this lady and said, quote, you'll get yours. And Vick's mother began to proclaim her son's innocence. And officers hurried the Vick family away from the property, you know, before they got attacked by the entire town and murdered in the street where they all got strung up. Fuck. So Mike, he's out there, his reaction here, he's outside hugging his kids. And he said he took the denial of the crime in stride, saying, doesn't matter what he says, the evidence points to him. He said though, that he thought. He said, I don't know, maybe in his own mind he thinks he's innocent. He said, I don't know what people's heads do either way he did it, so I don't care. Basically, he said, maybe it'll be a better. He said now it'll. He thinks maybe, hopefully the future will be better. He said, maybe it'll be a better holiday because this is coming up on the holiday season. He said the holidays will never be the same, but at least we got some closure. Ashley's 20 at this point, the daughter, and she said that she was glad Vic wouldn't be able to hurt anybody else while in jail and said that, quote, he can lie to himself all he wants. Her brother Brandon, who was 17 at this point, he said he got what he deserved. Dana's mother said that it was a smack in the face to hear Vic deny his guilt, but added that she was surprised he said anything. She said, at least we've put this person away for life where he can't hurt anyone else. We wanted him where he could not hurt anybody or control anybody else. Now he goes to court for his fucking problems with the prison guards there. You can't threaten to kill people in jail. So when he goes to court for that, he is found guilty of threatening the life of a public official and assault on a correctional officer in a two day jury trial. They sentence him to, you, sir, may fuck off. Three more years in prison because of that. Even if he gets parole in 2035, he then has to go serve that. So that's going to be on top of it. Also, he has, he's a fuck up though. He's not going to get paroled. If he does, it's not going to be for a long time because he has been in the special management unit, which is 23 hour a day lockdown for at that from 1.6 months after a punishment for attacking a fellow inmate. Then he's transferred. He has all sorts of, oh, he's.
Jimmy Wissman
A pain in the ass. Fractions crazy.
James Petregallo
He appeals the case very quickly here. He maintains that testimony related in detail. The substance of what? That the phone call. He's saying that phone call. The substance of that phone call. That woman overheard the mother wanting Dana to fix Michael's hair or not Michael Jonathan's hair.
Jimmy Wissman
Recognizing her voice.
James Petregallo
Recognizing her voice and saying that. Because they're saying it was hearsay, that she said that this person told her it was Marianne. They said that doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter.
Jimmy Wissman
Explain your jizz, sir.
James Petregallo
That's the point. Your jizz is not where it shouldn't be. I know where all my jizz is. You know what I'm saying? I know where all of it I can catalog on dead women. Nope. I can tell you where it is. And it's nowhere out there. There's not a hair salon on earth where my jizz can be found. And that's important here.
Jimmy Wissman
Yeah.
James Petregallo
So they ended up taking a couple of his points to on the appeal. But it doesn't matter because his sentence stands and everything stands. So he's kind of shit out of luck there. They said his guilt was conclusively proven such that any error in admission of evidence would be harmless. D and fucking A. He still denies it. He still continues to maintain an unknown assailant did the whole thing and fucking everything. So then he wants a new trial as well. Oh, he's got to have a new trial. He said his personal research on the topic led him to believe the sample could have been contaminated. The DNA sample? Yeah. He did his own research from jail where you have the best Internet access and access to top experts.
Jimmy Wissman
Yeah.
James Petregallo
He said that led him to on a topic to believe that the DNA sample could have been contaminated and said he was under the impression that another DNA expert was going to testify for the defense. And so, you know, he said, but I didn't ever get that. He said, I felt there was no way to get a fair trial in this town with all the media exposure. I was looking forward to a day in court. I was looking forward to my day of standing up here and telling the world, hey, I didn't do this. He never testified, by the way. He could have was more than welcome to do that. I'm not this monster these people think are trying to make me out to be in the media. I was looking forward to that. I felt that was important for people to hear my own from my own mouth. No one was defending me at the time. I was the only person to defend myself in the media and in court. Wow, you're jizz now, Ashley. She went on to have two children of her own and she became a victim advocate for the Spartanburg County Sheriff's Office. And she said that she makes herself available at all hours for victims in case someone needs to talk. She attends bond hearings with with them also for the against the people and encourages them to draft impact statements and read them at sentencing hearings. She also started a jailhouse program to make inmates aware of the effects of their that their crimes have on victims families. She said, quote, you just don't get over it. You learn how to live with it. So this is kind of my way of living with it. And she also operates her own photography business as well there. Now, the Heather Sellers case. Okay, they said that any other crimes that might involve Vic, they're investigating him for all sorts of shit. He's considered a person of interest in her disappearance. I would say more than that. In 2006, authorities found blood stains and blonde hair in an abandoned vehicle registered to Vic. They believed the blood and hair may be from Sellers, but they couldn't. The samples were broken down and couldn't get good DNA on it. Yeah, they said if he's involved in anything else, we're never going to quit looking. We do not believe he is squeaky clean. We don't believe he's as squeaky clean as his lawyers and his mama believe he's an evil, evil person. Now he was considered a possible suspect in the disappearance of another person. One of Sellers fellow Waffle House employees, Michelle Whitaker, who disappeared in August 2002 around the same time Sellers did. But turns out in 2008 when the cops were investigating it, they found her alive. She was alive. She had left on her own and just wasn't aware anyone was looking for. Oh my God. She's so inconsequential that it didn't even she like it never came up.
Jimmy Wissman
This town sucks so bad, people leave.
James Petregallo
They leave.
Jimmy Wissman
Nobody knows.
James Petregallo
So he's at the Ridgeland whatever correctional facility or whatever right now. Just says ridgeland and yeah, parole, 1024, 2035, he's eligible for parole. He's had loss of privileges a bunch of times. You know, cell phones and fighting and all this type of shit. Dana is buried at the Heritage Memorial Gardens in Roebuck there. And this has been on a bunch of different TV shows. Everything from Forensic Files to Unsolved Mysteries to Paul Azahn to all this shit.
Jimmy Wissman
He really thinks that he's just gonna do his time and get out. He's never getting out, right?
James Petregallo
I fucking hope not.
Jimmy Wissman
As a murderer, you can't get out.
James Petregallo
I really, really hope not. Because he's dangerous. That's a dangerous fucking man. So there you go. There is Roebuck, South Carolina. Gotta get to the end quick here. If you like the show, get on whatever app you're listening on and please give us five stars. It helps so fucking much and we don't understand why. Follow us on social media at Small Town Murder on Instagram, Small Town Pod on Facebook. Definitely head over to shutupandgivememurder.com tickets for the 420 virtual goddamn live show can't wait anywhere in the world with an Internet connection. Just like a live show. The pictures, the story, we're in costumes. Jimmy's gonna be forced to do bong hits. It takes place Saturday, April 19th and it's available for two weeks after that. Get your tickets. Also get your tickets for Chicago in May. Get them right now for the rest of the year as well. Shut upandgivemerder.com patreon.com CrimeInSports all the bonus material that you could possibly handle. Hundreds of back episodes immediately upon subscription. Anybody $5 a month or above. And you get new ones every other week. This week crime and sports. We are going to talk about more sports, songs, Chris Webber rapping and a bunch of other terrible shit. And then for small town murder the con one, the con man Casanova Louis Carlucci who is just some like tubby guinea guy in fucking in New York in the 80s who was scamming a bunch of women and they couldn't find him and it was why the whole city was looking for him. It was crazy. Talk about that. That is patreon.com crimeinsports you get a shout out at the end of the regular show. Want to follow us on social media? Super easy to do that. Shut up and give me murder.com drop down menus coming out of your ass. Get in there everybody. And until next week everybody, it's been our pleasure by if you like Small Town Murder you can listen early and ad free now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts prime members can listen early and ad free on Amazon Music. Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey@wondery.com Are.
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Podcast Summary: Small Town Murder
Episode: #580 - Beauty Shop Butcher - Roebuck, South Carolina
Release Date: March 21, 2025
Hosts: James Pietragallo & Jimmy Whisman
In episode #580 of Small Town Murder, hosts James Pietragallo and Jimmy Whisman delve into the tragic and perplexing case of Dana Satterfield, a beautician from the small town of Roebuck, South Carolina. Combining meticulous research with their signature comedic flair, James and Jimmy navigate through the complexities of this unsolved mystery, exploring the impact on the tight-knit community and the subsequent legal proceedings.
Roebuck is a small, serene community located in Spartanburg County, South Carolina, with a population of approximately 3,482. Named after Revolutionary War officer Benjamin Roebuck, the town boasts historical landmarks like the Walnut Grove Plantation. The median household income stands at $54,153, with median home prices around $275,500. Described by locals as a "tight-knit" and "safe" community, Roebuck presents an idyllic yet unsuspecting backdrop for the ensuing tragedy.
[12:54] James Pietragallo: "Dana Satterfield was brutally murdered in her own beauty salon. It was a horrifying scene—she was found hanging by a strap around her neck, covered in blood with clear signs of a violent struggle."
Dana, a 27-year-old single mother, was found dead on July 31, 1995, in her Roebuck beauty and tanning salon. The crime scene revealed extensive evidence of a violent attack, including blood on the walls and numerous contusions on Dana's body. Notably, there was no sign of robbery, as her wallet and cash box still contained over $200.
The investigation revealed that Dana had been struggling in her marriage with Mike Satterfield, leading to their separation. On the night of the murder, witnesses reported seeing a white male matching the description wearing a grayish T-shirt and blue jeans near the salon. Crucially, a semen sample found at the scene matched the DNA profile of Jonathan Christian Vick, a 17-year-old high school student at the time.
[22:34] Jimmy Whisman: "A friend laughed in Vic's face when he tried to date Dana, not realizing the dark turn this would take."
Despite an initial lack of substantial evidence, the DNA match was a pivotal breakthrough, reducing the pool of potential suspects drastically. Additional support came from anonymous tips and Vick's own incriminating admissions during his time in the Marines, where he was noted for violent behavior and assaulting fellow Marines.
In 2005, Jonathan Vick was arrested after his DNA matched the semen sample from the crime scene. Despite maintaining his innocence, the overwhelming evidence led to his conviction on all counts, including murder, criminal sexual conduct, and kidnapping.
[68:37] Jimmy Whisman: "They didn't even get to the Soup Nazi."
The trial was swift, with the jury deliberating for less than 20 minutes before delivering a guilty verdict. Vick was sentenced to life with parole eligibility in 2035. The sentencing phase was emotionally charged, with family members of both the victim and Vick expressing their anguish and outrage.
Post-trial, Vick continued to exhibit violent behavior while incarcerated, leading to additional convictions for assaulting correctional officers. He was also implicated as a person of interest in the 2002 disappearance of Heather Rena Sellers, though no conclusive evidence linked him to her case.
Dana's daughter, Ashley Satterfield, became a victim advocate, dedicating her efforts to supporting other victims and their families. The case also garnered national attention through its feature on shows like Forensic Files and Unsolved Mysteries.
The Beauty Shop Butcher episode of Small Town Murder presents a comprehensive and engaging examination of Dana Satterfield's tragic death. Through detailed storytelling and insightful commentary, James and Jimmy highlight the profound effect of such crimes on small communities and the relentless pursuit of justice by law enforcement. Despite Vick's conviction, the lingering questions surrounding other potential crimes ensure that the story remains a haunting reminder of the dark undercurrents that can exist beneath the surface of seemingly peaceful towns.
This summary aims to provide a comprehensive overview of the episode for listeners and newcomers alike, capturing the essence of the discussion while maintaining a respectful tone regarding the sensitive nature of the case.