Angriest Serial Killer Around - Chester, Pennsylvania

Summary

Podcast Summary: Small Town Murder – "Angriest Serial Killer Around - Chester, Pennsylvania"

Release Date: June 5, 2025
Hosts: James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman

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Introduction

In this gripping episode of Small Town Murder, hosts James Pietragallo and Jimmie Whisman delve deep into the chilling case of Amy Willard's murder in Chester, Pennsylvania. Combining thorough research with their signature comedic flair, James and Jimmie navigate the complexities of the investigation, the community's response, and the dark history of the primary suspect, Arthur Bomar.

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Background of Chester, Pennsylvania

Chester, a southeastern suburb of Philadelphia, presents a complex character. Despite its proximity to major cities like New York, Chester grapples with significant economic challenges, high unemployment rates, and a violent crime rate that is alarmingly higher than the national average.

• Population (2008): Approximately 32,000
• Demographics: 16% White, 68.7% Black, 11.9% Hispanic
• Median Household Income: $35,751
• Violent Crime Rate: 3.5 times the national average

James aptly remarks at [06:28]:
“What Chester makes, makes Chester what it makes.”

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Amy Willard: A Portrait of a Community's Hope

Amy Ellen Willard, born on June 8, 1974, epitomized the quintessential young woman with a promising future. A Division I athlete, Amy excelled in both lacrosse and soccer at George Mason University, setting school records and earning accolades. Raised in a supportive family with a police officer father and a nurse mother, Amy was known for her kindness, athletic prowess, and leadership.

Quotes from Amy’s college friends highlight her admirable qualities:
[24:30] “She was genuine and loyal and the best listener you could want when you had a problem.”

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The Disappearance and Initial Investigation

On June 19, 1996, Amy returned home to Chester from college for the summer. That evening, she and her friends decided to visit Smokey Joe's, a local bar with mixed reviews—one star from customers lamenting its seedy reputation and high crime rates [32:36].

At approximately 1:40 AM, Amy left Smokey Joe's, driving her father’s 1995 Honda Civic. Shortly after, emergency responders discovered her abandoned car on the Interstate 476 exit ramp to Route 1, with the engine running, headlights on, and interior lights active, but Amy was nowhere in sight. Disturbingly, blood was found pooling around the car, and a tire iron with blood was discovered nearby.

James observes at [37:42]:
“If I was writing a scene where I wanted that to be the impression, this is exactly how I'd put it.”

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Suspect Emerges: Andrew Kobach and Arthur Bomar

Andrew Kobach

Initially, Andrew Kobach, a 23-year-old tow truck operator from a wealthy background, emerged as a suspect. His modus operandi included impersonating police officers to pull over women, a behavior that raised significant red flags. Despite suspicions and circumstantial evidence linking him to Amy's disappearance, DNA tests ultimately exonerated Kobach.

At [68:20], James states:
“He's not a match. The cops were like, get the fuck out of…”

Despite his initial strong suspicion, Kobach's profile did not align with the DNA findings, leading investigators to reopen the search for the true culprit.

Arthur Bomar

The investigation took a pivotal turn with the introduction of Arthur Jerome Bomar, a convicted felon with a tumultuous history:

• Criminal Record:

  • 1978: Convicted of second-degree murder in Las Vegas for the shooting of Larry Carrier over a parking dispute.
  • 1990: Assaulted his girlfriend in a prison visiting room, leading to additional charges and extended incarceration.

• Parole and Escalation:
  Released on parole in 1991, Bomar moved to Pennsylvania, where he continued his criminal activities, including stalking women, identity theft, and violent assaults.

At [151:30], James summarizes Bomar’s nature:
“This is a guy you walk in and go, oh, well, take him down, throw him in a hole in the fucking thing and move on. Who cares?”

Bomar's pattern of violence, coupled with his abusive relationships and criminal tendencies, positioned him as the primary suspect in Amy Willard's murder.

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The Horrific Crime

In June 1996, Bomar executed a brutal attack on Amy:

1. Abduction:
   Using the pretext of a car malfunction, Bomar forced Amy out of her vehicle by intentionally ramming her Honda Civic, creating the brake damage observed at the crime scene ([37:42]).

2. Violent Assault:
   Amy was struck multiple times with a tire iron, leading to severe head injuries, including fractures to her skull and hyoid bone, indicative of strangulation. Burns and drag marks suggested further torture and movement post-attack ([57:38]).

3. Sexual Assault:
   Evidence indicated that Amy was sexually assaulted, as semen was found in her remains, and a tree branch was forcibly inserted, showcasing Bomar's extreme aggression and misogyny.

James poignantly reflects at [60:08]:
“This poor woman must maybe got stuck on her. Maybe Ford fucking Escort.”

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Trial and Conviction

Bomar's trial was a whirlwind of emotions and revelations:

• Evidence:

  • DNA: Multiple DNA matches linking Bomar to the crime scene, including blood, semen, and hair fibers.
  • Tire Impressions: Consistent with Bomar’s vehicle.
  • Pattern Injuries: Matching the oil pan from Bomar’s Ford Escort.

• Defense Attempts:
  Bomar’s legal team attempted to challenge the DNA evidence and portray him as mentally unstable, but these claims were quickly dismissed by the court due to overwhelming forensic evidence.

• Closing Arguments and Verdict:
  Despite the severe evidence, Bomar’s erratic behavior, including obscene gestures and blatant denials, captured the courtroom's attention. The jury deliberated for a short period before returning a guilty verdict on multiple charges, including murder, rape, assault, kidnapping, and abuse of a corpse ([175:27]).

James underscores the gravity at [119:06]:
“This is fucking real.”

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Aftermath and Implications

• Sentencing:
  Bomar was sentenced to death, although his execution remains stayed due to legal appeals.

• Community Impact:
  Amy's death left an indelible mark on Chester. In her honor, a national award by US Lacrosse was established, and roadside memorials were placed at key locations related to her disappearance and murder.

• Legislative Response:
  Amy's Law was enacted in October 2000, aiming to deter the early release of violent criminals by incentivizing stricter state sentencing laws and holding states financially accountable for interstate violent offenses.

At [175:27], Jimmie emphasizes:
“Clearly you have DNA of five different stripes. There's blood, there's hair, there's fucking semen. It's all over the place.”

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Conclusion

The Chester, Pennsylvania case of Amy Willard is a harrowing testament to the darkest facets of human behavior. Through meticulous investigation and staunch determination, law enforcement unraveled the layers of deception surrounding Arthur Bomar, ensuring justice for Amy. Hosts James Pietragallo and Jimmie Whisman provide a comprehensive exploration of this tragic event, highlighting the importance of community vigilance, robust legal frameworks, and the relentless pursuit of truth in the face of overwhelming adversity.

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Notable Quotes:

• James Pietragallo at [06:28]:
  “What Chester makes, makes Chester what it makes.”

• James Pietragallo at [37:42]:
  “If I was writing a scene where I wanted that to be the impression, this is exactly how I'd put it.”

• James Pietragallo at [60:08]:
  “This poor woman must maybe got stuck on her. Maybe Ford fucking Escort.”

• Jimmie Wissman at [175:27]:
  “Clearly you have DNA of five different stripes. There's blood, there's hair, there's fucking semen. It's all over the place.”

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Additional Resources

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Disclaimer: While this episode incorporates comedic elements, the discussed murder case is based on real events and remains untarnished by satire or embellishment.

Transcript

[James Petregallo]

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[Jimmy Wissman]

The numbers look good.

[James Petregallo]

Brad.

[Jimmy Wissman]

You're on mute.

[James Petregallo]

Switch from cable Internet to ziply Fiverr and get more of what you love for $65 less per month than cable@ziply fiverr.com this week in Chester, Pennsylvania a young woman's disappearance is quickly solved when her body is found in horrible condition. But the question of who did it remains a mystery until detectives start to find way too many coincidences with one particular suspect's awful past. Welcome to Small Town Murray. Hello everybody and welcome back to Small Town Murder. Yay. Oh yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petregallo. I'm here with my co host.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I am Jimmy Wissman.

[James Petregallo]

Thank you folks so much for joining us today on another absolutely insane edition of Small Town Murder. You know how it goes. The regular episodes, it's gonna be. It's gonna be an epic murder tale. So we will get into this very quickly before we get to that. Head over to shut upandgivemerder.com to get your tickets for live shows. Also merchandise. Anything you want to know there. But tickets for live shows. They're gonna start up again after the summer and a lot of these shows are sold out. So get your tickets now. Like Portland's sold out. Get your tickets for Seattle the next night. You wanna go to Philly and D.C. in December. Those are selling fast and they're almost gone. So get your tickets there. I think there's a few left in Irvine. San Diego might have a couple but I don't think so. Maybe Grand Rapids and Madison I think are sold out. So do that. Get your tickets there. That is shutupandgivemerder.com now you also want to listen to our other two shows for sure. Crime in Sports which we're doing all sorts of wild stuff over there. We're going to talk about a multi parter on the i5 killer. So if you're interested in murder, that's a good one to do there. Randall Woodfield and definitely listen to your stupid opinions. We're which is where we talk about the dumbest reviews from all over the Internet. Then when you're all caught up on all that, get yourself Patreon. That's where all the bonus stuff is. Patreon.com CrimeInSports is where you get all the bonus material. Anybody $5 a month or above, you're gonna get immediately upon subscription hundreds and hundreds of episodes of bonus stuff to binge on that you've never heard before. Then you get new ones every week or every other week. I'm sorry. One crime in sports, one small town murder and you get it all. That's all it takes, five bucks. And for this week, what you're going to get for crime and sports, we're going to talk about something crazy. These people do they have a baseball league now in modern times, 20, 25, where they play by 1864 rules and equipment and regulations. It's the weirdest thing we ever are going to talk about. Then for small town murder we're going to talk all about this new Sherry Papini documentary where she's got a whole new story now. It's insane. It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen. I'm gonna watch it 12 times before we record. And Jimmy said he's doing the same because you just.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I can't wait.

[James Petregallo]

You just gotta take in the crazy like a sponge. Just soak it up. It's a lot.

[Jimmy Wissman]

The first run is not enough. You gotta.

[James Petregallo]

No, you need more. You gotta go back to. Hold on.

[Jimmy Wissman]

She really is.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, it's wild stuff. So. Patreon.com crimeinsports and you get a shout out at the end of the show as well. Jimmy, we'll mess your name up. Don't you even worry about that. That said, disclaimer time. This is a comedy show. We're comedians. We're going to tell jokes here. Now the murder story is completely real. There is nothing fake or embellished about the murder story for comedic effect. It's insane. There's enough murders out there to find insane things that trust me, you don't have to make anything up. And you might go, well, how does murder and comedy go together? How does that work? Real easily. There's a real easy way to do that. We don't make fun of the victims. We don't make fun of the victims families.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Why?

[James Petregallo]

Because we're assholes. But, but we're not scumbags. That's how that works. See, it's real easy. So if that sounds good to you, you're gonna hear a wild story and you're Always gonna hear wild stories. If you think that true crime and comedy, no matter what, should never go together, we might not be for you, but we might be for you. Maybe you should check it out and, you know, make your own judgment on that at a later date. It's mainly just, you know, yeah, you might get mad at making fun of a town, but that's silly because, you know, who cares? We're all from some somewhere easy to make fun of. That said, for the rest of you that want to have a good time and hear a crazy story, I think it's time to sit back, clear the lungs, and let's all shout, shut up. Give me murder. Let's do this, everybody.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Let's go.

[James Petregallo]

Let's go on a trip, shall we? We are going to Pennsylvania, you might say. We were just in Pennsylvania, like two months ago for an episode. Yes, we were. It doesn't matter. There is a. This is kind of a case that was in reserve, so it's. It's a long story. But we did this case this week, and it's a great case and it's wild stuff. And it doesn't matter that we've been in Pennsylvania. It's so crazy that we needed to go back to Pennsylvania again, put it that way. So this is in southeastern Pennsylvania. This is Chester, Pennsylvania is the name of the town. And it's about 25 minutes outside of Philly. It's a Philly kind of suburb that's kind of fallen on hard times here. It's about 2 hours and 10 minutes to New York City and about 2 hours to Kingston Township, Pennsylvania, which was that one from a couple months ago, the serial killer secret graveyard. That was a real gross one. As a matter of fact, this is in Delaware county, which I love it when there's counties named after other states in the states that those aren't in. That always drives me crazy. And it happens, I don't know, weekly to us. Right between this and the Friday Express, episode one of the two will have the county named after another state.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Everything was everywhere else.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, it was very confusing. Next in the area code here. 4, 8, 4. Town motto. Okay, hold on to your hats here, because I had to read this, like three times because it made my brain hurt. What Chester makes, makes Chester what it makes.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It makes us.

[James Petregallo]

What we make, makes us, basically. But when you just read that at three in the morning when you're stoned, it's like, what Chester makes, makes Chester what, man, is that like a riddle? Like, I was really out there, and then Today it was more clear, though history of this town a little bit. It's the oldest city in Pennsylvania, which is saying. That's saying something because Pennsylvania is kind of one of the Chester. One of the original.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Not even Philadelphia.

[James Petregallo]

It's one. Nope. It's the oldest city founded in.

[Jimmy Wissman]

How about that?

[James Petregallo]

By Swedish people.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

And that's how that went in 16.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Closer to the shore, it probably would have been the capital, huh?

[James Petregallo]

Probably would assume so, yeah. It was in 1681, William Penn acquired the colonial settlement as a safe haven for Quakers. That's what Pennsylvania was. It was just. It's. It was like Quaker Utah. Basically what that was for Mormons was for Quakers, except, you know, they weren't doing like weird shit that made you run away. That was the thing. They had to get out there because people were like chasing them with pitchforks to Utah. These people are just like. I don't know. What do you people do? Not much. Just kind of sit around, be quiet. You don't like violence and you make baskets and shit. Okay, well, do it in Pennsylvania. There's plenty of land.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Do it there.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, do it there. Plenty of land. So a year later, he landed on the ship. Welcome. That's the name of the ship. And renamed the settlement Chester after a city in England. So again, named after that. A lot of economic challenges. As of 2022, this town of Chester declared bankruptcy, so.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh, is that right?

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, they're having problems there.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Bankrupt.

[James Petregallo]

Bankrupt town. Yeah.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I don't know. Towns can do that.

[James Petregallo]

Apparently it can. I don't know what the hell you couldn't pay, but you couldn't. The workers or, you know, for services. I don't know what the hell but bankrupt. So let's find out some reviews of this town from people who live here. See what it's all about. Here's five stars. Okay. Keep in mind this is perfect rating. Five stars. Chester is an interesting place. That's the first line. It has its seedy sides. This is a five star review.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Interesting and seedy so far, but the majority of the residents are decent working people.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I think that's everywhere.

[James Petregallo]

That's the best review that they could muster for five stars. I mean, it's kind of crappy, but the people work hard, I suppose.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Majority of people work hard, James.

[James Petregallo]

I mean, yeah, otherwise it'd really be a mess. So here's three stars. Okay. It's a little long. First city where I was almost attacked by a street gang at night by Lamokin Project in Central Avenue. Okay. My boyfriend Was an ex vet and handled the situation. We made it.

[Jimmy Wissman]

What does that mean?

[James Petregallo]

That's really vague, right? I was like they just left a.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Bunch of people and we're okay.

[James Petregallo]

They left that shit. Mad vague. He's an ex vet so he hadn't. I hid in a tree and sniped people and then we got out of there. That's what it sounds like.

[Jimmy Wissman]

You know what that means?

[James Petregallo]

Wow. Visited my co worker on 3rd Street. We were nursing assistants. She was very nice, had five kids. Her house was an old row house and there was no roof. No roof. Which really not a house at that point.

[Jimmy Wissman]

No, that's just some walls and shit.

[James Petregallo]

That is not anything. You need a roof or something to be a house. Matter of fact fuck the walls. Just a roof would be way better. Just something to hide from the rain and the sun. They tore down the old Sun Hotel and old Indian burial grounds. How the hell do you tear down Indian burial grounds?

[Jimmy Wissman]

You don't.

[James Petregallo]

I don't know.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Fuck away from that.

[James Petregallo]

How do you tear that down? Yeah, shit starts coming through your TV if you don't. It's fucking weird.

[Jimmy Wissman]

You can pave over it. But they're gonna come through it.

[James Petregallo]

They're coming. I believe it. One Star Chester is terrible. Oh it is a terrible dangerous wasteland of a city. Jesus. At least on the west side trash strewn streets, dilapidated abandoned houses, buildings and a God awful stench rule the area. Gunshots are a frightening constant. And for certain walk the neighborhood at your own risk. Certain walking for certain fucking head on a swivel.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Your own risk.

[James Petregallo]

Watch out. The one positive is that our immediate neighbors are exceptionally nice. Oh well that's great. They're not going to shoot. Someone else is.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

And then finally One Star Chester is extremely violent. I only go here for college. I would not recommend this area to anyone. So that's. These aren't glowing reviews. Even the five star reviews. Like it's pretty shitty, you know. Population year 302008 19. So not a big place.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Size place but it's not tiny.

[James Petregallo]

It's not a big place to have tons of gun violence. It seems odd for 32,000. That's a lot.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's a. Of course. It's a burial ground. It's from the 1600s.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Wissman]

No, this is not a good place.

[James Petregallo]

That was from. It's weird. Median age here is lower than normal. 32.5 is the median age. It's usually about 38. There is a few more men than women in this town. Family here it's about 20% married, it's 50, 50 in the rest of the country. So that's low. It's also a lot of younger people here, but single with children, normally 10% is normal. Yeah, single with children is 42% here.

[Jimmy Wissman]

God damn.

[James Petregallo]

So that's a lot race in this town, 16% white, 68.7% black, 0.8% Asian.2% Native American, which we normally don't find in the, in the, in the east coast there, 11.9% Hispanic. Unemployment rate here is super high too. And this has been ongoing since the 60s. The unemployment rate there is not a lot of work in this area. Decent jobs, 14%, which is more than double the national average. Median household income here is about half the national average too. $35,751. That's household income.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Even if you got a job, even.

[James Petregallo]

If you have a job, there's no money. That's what I mean. Cost of living, 100 is average. Here it is 106. So it's not even that cheap.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's not even affordable.

[James Petregallo]

Except for the median home cost. That is cheap. Median home cost here, $92,000. This close to Philly, that close to Philly, two hours from New York City, 92 grand, that's insane. Rest of the country, 338,000. So a little bit off on that. So if we've convinced you, damn it, you are ready. Your head's on a swivel, you're vested up. You look like Tupac shooting a video right now. You got your vest on, you're packing.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Something garlic around your neck or some shit.

[James Petregallo]

You never know. Vampires are a constant threat. We have for you the Chester, Pennsylvania real estate report. The average two bedroom rental here goes for about $1,120 a month, which sounds like buying is your best option. That seems expensive. Here is a three bedroom, one bath, 1200 square foot kind of shithole. Not a great. From the outside it looks fine. I suppose it's like a building more than a house, you know what I mean? Like a two story, but the inside is just trashed. There is nothing's painted. There's, you know, fucking shit on the walls covering. It's a mess here, this house. It's on a 1300 square foot lot. So it's not even a big lot.

[Jimmy Wissman]

You don't even have anything.

[James Petregallo]

No 1300 square foot lot in a 1200 square foot house.

[Jimmy Wissman]

So that's like a foot around, not.

[James Petregallo]

A lot of bumper space there. In between there, $65,000 for that though very affordable. Very affordable. I'll turn the screen quick. You can see. Look at the mess inside. It's a lot. That's a boarded up window. Like that's not good. With pieces of the boards missing even. Next up. This one's not much better. Look at this bad boy.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh, what? That is like an old taco shop.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. Say, it looks like you could get an oil change there or something. Looks like a bay door. It's a mess though. There's no windows, there's no anything. It's just an old brick structure that may or may not have sold tacos or mufflers in the last 50 years. Six bedroom, two bath, 3,400 square foot.

[Jimmy Wissman]

God damn.

[James Petregallo]

But I mean, it's a mess. There's not even like. I don't even know. Six bedroom. It doesn't even look like rooms.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It looks like there's a deep fryer.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. Next to each other. Which is a strange thing to do. You can, you know, you can fix somebody's lube and fucking make them rolled tacos at the same time. 93 grand for this.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Wow.

[James Petregallo]

93 grand. And they just cut it 7,000. By the way. It was 100,000.

[Jimmy Wissman]

So nobody wants this?

[James Petregallo]

No. And the last one, the 65,001 just got cut. $15,000.

[Jimmy Wissman]

James.

[James Petregallo]

We could buy half of this town on credit at least.

[Jimmy Wissman]

A giant house.

[James Petregallo]

At least. If you got decent credit, you could buy half the town. And then finally, four bedroom, two bath, 1608 square feet. It's definitely, as you can see, the nicest looking house of the group. It's got a little yard.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Okay, got it.

[James Petregallo]

It's got a little yard here. Not a huge lot or anything, but it's decent. Decent on the inside, you know, not terrible, put it that way. Livable. 323,000 bucks.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Not bad.

[James Petregallo]

So that's where it is though. If it's a livable house, it's going to be the normal price of a normal area. But if it's a shithole, you can get it real cheap.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Drives, you're willing to do some work.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, yeah. You can do it. Things to do here. Okay, let's find out what these people are up to. The Turk's Head Music Festival in Westchester. Not Westchester, like New York Westchester. A day long celebration of local music, crafts and great food.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Shit.

[James Petregallo]

Oh yeah. They have approximately 70 artists. They have and vendor booths and all this type of shit. Throughout the day, two stages will feature seven local bands. Oh my God.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Seven locals.

[James Petregallo]

Kill me now. Seven. Seven. Either seven bands Worth of bad cover songs or bad originals. Either one or the same cover shit over and over again.

[Jimmy Wissman]

7. Seven people singing shit you've never heard or something you've always heard.

[James Petregallo]

Jimmy Buffett over and over again. Yeah, One of the two. Yeah. You're sick of hearing it. Bands include the Joe Kenny Band.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Cordelia Blue.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Sounds like a defensive lineman, doesn't it?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Cordelia Blue at an Ole Miss. He got drafted last year in the second round.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That might be why it sounds familiar.

[James Petregallo]

The Stone Throwers. No, I don't know who that is. Untethered. Okay. Wild Bill and the Bruisers.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I like him already.

[James Petregallo]

That's. I was going to say that's something there. Those sound like old men.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I believe Headliner, to be honest.

[James Petregallo]

No, it's not. I believe. I saw the picture. And this is a weird looking band. If I'm thinking of the same band. This is like one guy who looks like an older guy who wears like suspenders and shit. And then another guy who's kind of chubby and then another guy who looks like too young and slightly too good looking to hang out with the other two. It's a really weird looking band. I don't know what's going on. That's strange.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Handsome guy with no self awareness.

[James Petregallo]

I like it. Yeah, he's hanging out with a couple of old dorks dressed up dorky, singing old dorky songs. Then the dead friends will be there. That sounds fun. And then the Blues Reincarnation Project. I think that's your headliner there. So at least they tell you what's going on.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah, it's a bummer. Belushi died and they're still mad about it.

[James Petregallo]

They're still upset. The Blues Reincarnation Project Special appearance by Dan Aykroyd Annoying you for some reason. That was a weird thing, man. In like the 70s, after the blues Brothers, like all these fucking white famous actors wanting to be blues singers. Kevin Bacon and fucking Bruce Willis had a fucking blues album. All these people. My God. So that's probably the only thing he remembers. He's all sick at this point. He probably remembers I made a terrible album in like 86. It was so bad. Why'd I do that?

[Jimmy Wissman]

I want to forget. Just that and nothing else.

[James Petregallo]

Just that and nothing else.

[Jimmy Wissman]

And all I remember is that drop that.

[James Petregallo]

Keep Die Hard. How about that? So crime rate of this town, what we are interested in here, property crime is only slightly above the national average. Not too much higher than the national average. But violent crime though. Murder, rape, robbery and of course, assault. The Mount Rushmore of crime is about three and a half times the national average. My God, that is so. Those reviews were not bullshitting. That's one of the higher.

[Jimmy Wissman]

They don't fuck with petty crime around here.

[James Petregallo]

No, that's what I mean. They won't steal your shit. They'll just kill you and leave you with a wallet in your pocket. This is crazy. It's a crazy town. We haven't heard much of that before. That's one of the highest rates we've ever heard in 600 episodes on this show. So that said, let's talk about some murder. Dammit. Let's do this. Let's start out by talking about a young lady here, okay? A very cool, kind of badass young lady. Amy. And it's Aimee. Oh, is Amy. They all call her Aim. I guess that's nickname Amy Ellen Willard. Double L, A R D Willard. She's born June 8, 1974. Amy is. And she's the youngest of three kids. And she good family to kind of a very. She comes from like this is like the typical, like real good blue collar stock, you know what I mean? Her mom's a nurse, her dad's a police officer. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, you can't get more.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Like much more public servant than that.

[James Petregallo]

We got steady jobs, damn it. We have insurance and we get good deals on prescriptions. We're not gonna live in a mansion, but goddamn it, those two seven year old cars are paid off in that driveway. You son of a bitch. Like that's a.

[Jimmy Wissman]

We got antibiotics that aren't expired in the medicine cabinet.

[James Petregallo]

It's pretty cool. Yeah. We don't just get them from like our friends when they forgot to take all of them like I used to do. Remember when you gave me your old antibiotics when I was sick before I had health insurance? I was like, awesome, sweet. So I was just taking before all.

[Jimmy Wissman]

They do is give you diarrhea.

[James Petregallo]

I was taking them because Jimmy wasn't responsible enough to take his whole prescription. Lucky for me, I got to not die of whatever I had at the time. So that was really good.

[Jimmy Wissman]

A few of these and got healthy before they ran out.

[James Petregallo]

That was good stuff. So you gave them to me. I benefited from that. So these guys don't have to do that though. I feel like so good shit here. Gail is her mom, Gayle Willard. And then her dad is Paul Willard. He is a police officer in Chester. And her mom is a nurse at Riddle Memorial Hospital in Lima, Pennsylvania. Paul dad is a kind of a real respected guy in the community because not only was he an officer, he became the police captain of the Chester Police Department too. So very, you know, higher up in the local police department. For a small town, that's a big wig, you know what I mean? That's a high roller.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Integrity and dignity, this guy. Yep.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. And he's from this area too. Like, he was born in Chester and raised there and shit. His dad and mom both graduated from the local high school in Chester, through and through. Yeah, they have a long history here. They both earned degrees, by the way, from Penn State University. Or. No, he went to Penn State. And I think she went to Delaware Technical Community College. So both parents, college graduates as well. Now her parents get divorced, Paul and Gail. But apparently it didn't affect the relationship. They stayed very good friends and very close. It was one of those, look, we got married young.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

You know, neither of us want this let's not fuck the kids up type of thing, you know what I mean? Let's try to get along here. So they did, and they lived close to each other. The kids saw both parents all the time. And they didn't talk bad about each other or anything. So that's a good thing.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Responsible.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. Amy had a nice family, basically. And Amy, she just does her shit. She's a really good athlete, like, really good athlete, several sports. And she has a lot of confidence. And just one of these kids that's just raring to go, you know, when you'd see those kids, remember in high school, you'd see those kids that just had not just confidence in social settings or whatever, they had confidence that they had life figured out and knew what they were doing. And they probably knew how to fill out a college application and knew where to get the papers to do that and stuff. Me and you, I think people, we just looked at those people like, wow, how do you have it together like that?

[Jimmy Wissman]

I didn't even know where the essay. No, I don't know. Difference between the acts and the SATs.

[James Petregallo]

I didn't. I didn't know when you were supposed to show up for things I didn't know like that you were supposed to. I didn't know any of that shit. I just didn't know.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I think that's the people just counselor's responsibility.

[James Petregallo]

I think also your parents. And neither are my parents went to college either. So neither of them knew what to do. They were just like, yeah, don't. Don't have them call us and be, you know, mad because you did something wrong.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Don't get me arrested for not showing up, you dick.

[James Petregallo]

That was it. That's all it was. That was my dad's main rule. I don't want anybody calling me for any reason. Don't have grades bad enough, but also.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Not the cops, either of those.

[James Petregallo]

Just nobody calling me. If I'm home and I'm sitting here, I don't want to be bothered with whatever you did wrong. At another time about you. That was all it was. As long as there's no calls, I'm fine. I'm not in trouble, which is good. So she though, was one of these kids that you'd look at and just be like, man, how do they do that? You know what I mean? They just know how to do stuff. I was always impressed with those kids. I don't know. She was a star lacrosse and soccer player at Notre Dame de Nemour, which is an all girls private high school in Villanova, Pennsylvania. So good parents, they're sending this kid to a really good school and it's like college prep school and she's getting all these scholarship offers for.

[Jimmy Wissman]

The name of the school is in another language, for Christ's sake.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, sounds fancy. Sounds.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I don't even know the name of your school.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, if my friend told me they were going there, I'd be like, whoa, that sounds like we can't afford that. That doesn't sound good at all. Like, that sounds tough.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's probably more advanced than my public education.

[James Petregallo]

That's the other thing. I don't know if I can hang there. So her friends recalled her as being very competitive and also very kind. Competitive in sports, but kind and personal. You know, things one said. Equally important were lessons to us off the field. She was genuine and loyal and the best listener you could want when you had a problem. So that's kind of. That's kind of who she is. A kid that's really got her shit together in her teenage years, which again, blows my mind. Don't know how the hell they can do that. I was nowhere near having anything together till I was at least. At least 30.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Exactly.

[James Petregallo]

And still that's precarious as shit, really. 40 is really where it was like, oh, I think I understand some stuff now.

[Jimmy Wissman]

30. I had my second kid and I was like, oh, no, this I can't.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, me too.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I'm supposed to do this by now.

[James Petregallo]

Me too. Yeah, I'm supposed. I feel like I should know more. Having two kids now, I feel like I should have a lot more Together that I don't have. So her athletic accomplishments and good grades and everything else, and just being a hell of a young lady here gets her a scholarship to play lacrosse and soccer at George Mason University.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That's good, right?

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, yeah. It's a Division 1 school. They're in the tournament sometimes in basketball. This is down in Fairfax, Virginia. Full ride. I mean, that's awesome. Again, mind blowing. Mind blowing, you know, and so she plays both in college at George Mason, but lacrosse is where she really excels. Really good. By her junior year, she led the Colonial Athletic association in scoring and assists.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Wow.

[James Petregallo]

So she's leading the whole division in scoring and assists. And she was named one of the top 25 female lacrosse players in the United States by Lacrosse Monthly or whatever the fuck publication. Young Ladies Lacrosse Monthly. That's a quarterly. They sell a lot of big circulation there on that one. So she set school records leading the CAA, Colonial Athletic association in scoring with 50 goals and 29 assists in 1996. We don't have a lot of small town murder people who have sports stats to read off. That's weird. She's also named to the all conference team in both soccer and lacrosse and earned regional All American honors in lacrosse as well. So she's pretty awesome, basically. Yeah. So she's breaking school records for scoring, doing awesome. She's majoring in physical education and wanted to become a high school coach. That's what she wanted to do. She wanted to be a teacher and a high school lacrosse coach, which for someone like her, she could do. That's a nice. That's really nice that she wants to do that. That shows she's kind of serving. She could make a lot more. And that's also her dad. Her parents are copping a nurse, and so that kind of runs in the family, probably of, you know, what you do is more important than making a million dollars a year or whatever the fuck. You know what I mean?

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's a pretty cool gig too, to like go to school for something that you love to do and you're getting an education for free and having fun while doing it, and then when you get out, you get to show other people the fun that you had.

[James Petregallo]

And. And if. If you had. If you were a kid who was in sports and you had a coach that helped you a lot and inspired you, then maybe you'd want to go back and do that too for somebody else and, you know, kind of.

[Jimmy Wissman]

And loves this thing like that. Yeah, yeah. Our football coach, I don't feel like loved Football?

[James Petregallo]

No, no, no. None of our coaches loved anything they hated.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Probably loved football, just not this team. Any other team but this one.

[James Petregallo]

Our basketball coach taught social studies. And in his social studies class, it was just portraits of Bobby Knight everywhere. The crazy ex Indiana coach, That's who he thought he was. He wore like red sweaters and shit, even though our colors were blue at our school. He was a total tool, this guy. And I remember, I'll never forget, at junior prom, he was one of, like the chaperones.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

And I saw him. You ever catch somebody just in a spot where they didn't expect any. They don't think they're in their own world. And bubble, he had his hands in his pocket, leaning against the wall, staring at like the corner of the ceiling, mouthing the words to oh, what a night as it played late December. And I saw. But no joy at all on his face. Just wasted years. It was watching like a 48 year old man just completely realize he's done his life totally wrong and he hates himself for it. And I remember seeing that and it gave me such strength to be like, fuck that guy. I don't know what it was, but.

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[Jimmy Wissman]

So happy he's tortured that he has to watch young children grind against each other at like a look over the shoulder so nobody sees. Yeah, I have an erection.

[James Petregallo]

He hated me.

[Jimmy Wissman]

God damn it.

[James Petregallo]

He hated me. I was a wise ass. So I got. I get it.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I never went to either prom. I didn't get to see what any of those fucking teachers do at a prom.

[James Petregallo]

Oh, it was wild to watch, man. That was the ultimate people watching experience the prom. I'm not gonna dance and shit like that. So I basically am just gonna scope out this as a weird, like an alien. I'm gonna watch this social experiment and see what the hell happens. And it was. I found the teachers to be fascinating to watch during the prom because they were. This is like on their own time and shit. They don't want to be here.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Plus, like, they're getting paid overtime for this shit.

[James Petregallo]

We're like full of life with, like nothing but possibilities before us. We might get laid tonight. And these people are just booze in.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Here and maybe blowjob too.

[James Petregallo]

Who knows? They're just standing there looking like. Fucking wasted my whole life on these idiots. Great. These dumb kids. Oh, what a night. I'll never forget it playing I'll never fucking forget it. That was so long ago. I'll never forget it. So June of 1996, coincidentally, when my senior prom was. So there you go. Oh, yeah, yeah. So Amy is home from college at that point? Yeah, she gets home from college in between junior and senior year, I believe so. Yeah. That's what she's doing here. And she comes home for the summer, you know, hang out. She's not going to sit in Virginia. It's hot down there. So that's what she's doing. Just kind of kicking around town and doing. Hanging out with her high school friends. What people do when they come home from college. So June 19, 1996, they decide they're going to go out that night and go to a bar. She's 21 or whatever, 22 at this point. She just turned 22 like 11 days earlier. And they're going to go to a bar called Smokey Joe's.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's a good bar.

[James Petregallo]

Let's go on down to Smokey Joe's, everybody. So Smokey Joe's, when she came, she's never been to Smokey Joe's before.

[Jimmy Wissman]

First time.

[James Petregallo]

First time. And when she came home, she rarely went out. Basically, she didn't really go out and do things like she'd have, you know, go have lunch with a friend or something. But she wasn't big on going out because her parents wanted her home so they could hang out with her, which is, I guess, nice, but, you know, also a little much. You know, as a 22 year old, you're like, okay, well, maybe getting old. But also at the same time, you know, she's gonna be graduating next year. Who knows if she'll stay in this area or whatever. So maybe you want to spend as much time with your parents as possible. But that night, her friends talk her and went, let's go to Smokey Joe's, damn it. So she drives her mom's car, her mom Gail's car to go out that night. And by the way, Smokey Joe's. Let me read you a review of Smokey Joe's real quick. This is one star. One star. It's next to Penn. It has alcohol. There are, there are the only two reasons. Those are the only two reasons I can think of that you should ever want to enter this place. If you don't live in the area, it's not worth making the trek out here. It's also expensive and dark inside. And the pictures are watered down. So there's a reason pictures of beer, pitchers of beer are watered down. They're college kids probably. So, yeah, take this $4 pitcher, you dummy. There you go. And it's pen, too. So they're real smart kids. So you're like, yeah, fuck you with your Ivy League education. Here's your pitcher of beer, asshole.

[Jimmy Wissman]

This tastes like somebody added San Pellegrino to it.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, a little bit. A little more bubbly than normal. So the owner responds, yes, we are next to pen. Yes, we have alcohol. No, you don't get to affectionately call us smokes. What now? I don't know if he means the bar or us. Meaning. Yeah, that's what I mean. Meaning us, meaning people, because he uses a cap. I don't know. And if you think of us as expensive in any possible way, then I absolutely need to know, where on God's green earth did you come from and how can I move there? So that's kind of funny. So at 10:30pm that's when they get to Smokey Joe's. They're gonna hang out. Smokey Joe's bar. It's in Wayne, Pennsylvania. And you know, not Too far. She lives in Brookhaven, so it's not too far from there. Even at about 1:40am Here she leaves. About three hours hanging out. So she's driving. She heads for Interstate 476. She's driving her mom's blue 95 Honda Civic. So reasonably new car.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Not bad.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, not bad. Okay, so that's where she's seen leaving the parking lot, heading in that direction. Then about 2am there's an emergency ambulance crew that is not like on the way to a call. I don't know if they're on their way back from a call or on their way from picking up fucking Burger King or what they're doing, but they're out in the area and they see on the exit ramp of the interstate that leads to Route 1 here they see a car, a blue Honda Civic, 1995, just abandoned on the side of the road. Okay, now that would be nothing except that the door is open, the engine is running, the headlights and the interior lights are on and the radio's blasting, but there's nobody around the car where. So that doesn't look normal by any stretch of the imagination. No one leaves their car like that and walks. So even if you ran out of gas, well, the engine's running, so that's not even it. There's no reason to do that whatsoever. There's nobody like pissing in a bush over there or anything. Like that's. That's what I would see. Like who had to take a leak? And you're looking in the bushes, but there's nobody there.

[Jimmy Wissman]

They usually don't leave the lights on so that everybody can see it.

[James Petregallo]

No. And leave the door open.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Shut the door. So the dome light goes off.

[James Petregallo]

Exactly. So it was real weird. And the driver's side door's open, everything's on. Makes no sense. They do notice on the back of the car there's an abrasion on the back of the car in the back bumper. Looks like it got hit. But they don't know if that happened just now and that's why they pulled over, or if that's from three months ago. Who the hell knows?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Winter.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, they drove in Philly one night. You know what I mean? Some bump and rub traffic. It happens. Then as they're looking around, then they discover something that kind of lets them know that this isn't. Isn't just a car problem. There's a pool of blood on the ground in front of the vehicle with drops of blood leading away from it and then no More, and then they disappear. The drop. The drop trail ends, and that's that. Then they find, near the pool of blood, a tire iron as well. Oh, yes, with blood on it, obviously. So this isn't looking good at this point. You see everything open. Looks like someone's been dragged out of their car, hit with a tire iron, and then pulled away and obviously put into another vehicle where the. Where the blood. Blood drops end. You know, I'm not a cop or I'm not a homicide detective, but that looks pretty goddamn clear if I'm putting that together.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Pretty easy. Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. If I was writing a scene where I wanted that to be the impression, this is exactly how I'd put it. You know what I mean? So they're looking here. They also find tire impressions in the area as well. They find tire. They take tire impressions from tracks. They find right near where the end of the blood trail is. So they're thinking that might have something to do with the car. It looks like where the other car was. Now, the ambulance driver who found this mess said, I found some blood in front of the car. I found a stone with blood on it in front of the car on the guardrail. There appeared to be some blood splattered next to the car. We later had an interpretation done of the blood pattern in front of the car, and we learned that it appeared as though someone had been laying on the ground for a brief time in front of the car. Oh, they did a whole. Yeah, they looked at it. The crime scene says that this person was violently attacked in a very fast mode, meaning that they were hit very quickly as far as the violence was concerned. And then they were extricated from that site very quickly. This person didn't stay around long. You can tell that by how much blood and the fact that it's still dripping and that kind of thing. Now, number one, anybody who's going to want to take Amy, I would think is going to have to. Is going to have to do it violently.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

You ever seen lacrosse?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah. Those crosses, really?

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, it's a tough sport.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Shoulders and legs, man.

[James Petregallo]

Dude, they got thigh and soccer. She's probably got thighs on her that you kick you in the balls and send you to the moon. Like, you gotta fucking be, you know? She's not a. Like a dainty, waify girl. She's known as a tomboy who's one of the best lacrosse players in the country. She'll kick your goddamn ass if you're not careful. So, no, she's not gonna just go, ah, with her legs and arms flailing as you carry her away under your arm, she's gonna. You're gonna have to fight her like a mule. Yeah, I would hope so. Yeah. She's a soccer player, for Christ's sake. She knows how to kick, too. So unless you're wearing a cup, you better be careful. Now, next to the car was the impression of a tire, which was photographed. And then the forensic experts came in and made a cast of the impression, which was sent to a lab as well to have on file in case they find anybody. So the damage to the vehicle in the back, the bumper damage, coupled with all of this, makes it look like that maybe she was the victim of a carjacking. And they find out later that that bumper was not damaged when she took the car that night. So it happened that night. They just had to ask her mom. Yeah. You get any bumper damage? No. Amy's father said, I noticed because it was my car. I thought it was Amy's mother's car, but I guess it's her father's. I noticed because it was my car and I knew everything about my car. And I had pointed out to the police possibly that at that traffic light right where she was going to turn off the 476 on ramp onto the Route 1 on ramp, there's a traffic light right there. I believe that's where someone would have bumped her car. Now, her dad's a police captain, so he's not. He's not looking at this as, you know, a dad. I mean, he is, but he's also looking at it, like I told the cops. Yeah, one plus two equals fucking three here. Like, let's do something. So that's what he thinks. He thinks she was at the light, somebody bumped her car, causing her to get out of the car to look at the damage. And then they came up and clocked her on the head with some. Take her away. So now, the next morning, here, about a half mile from where Amy's car was found, police find some other things here.

[Jimmy Wissman]

What do they got?

[James Petregallo]

They find a pair of underwear and a pair of sneakers.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I don't like that.

[James Petregallo]

That are Amy size. Yeah, yeah. It's a pair of women's underwear with a pad in it. So. Okay, yeah, which I guess would be good because you can tell there's going to be DNA there. You know what I mean? You know exactly who they belong to. The sneakers are identified as belonging to Amy, and so are the underwear identified as being the size she wears anyway. So if it's by her shoes, we can probably. Her.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Pretty good deduction.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. Now, hairs found on the pad were consistent with. With her hair as well. So that's another thing. Now, the. The underwear weren't soiled with dirt at all. They weren't wet. They were dry. And so were the shoes.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh.

[James Petregallo]

Which is odd. It didn't even, like, dew or. It's June in Pennsylvania. Everything's wet in the morning in June in Pennsylvania. So that's odd. They're a little bit concerned about that. And it rained, too. Between the time that she was taken and the time they found this, it had rained. So one of the detectives said. It appeared to me as though those items had been brought back after the rain, which would have meant they were brought back after her car was found. Someone, whoever did this, came back to the scene that her car was found very close by and put these items there well after the fact, after the whole crime scene had been wrapped up.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Wow.

[James Petregallo]

Because otherwise, you wouldn't want to go there while there's. I mean, every goddamn detective and everybody else in the world was there. You're not gonna go there and throw shit down. So that is ballsy. Right away. That takes the psychological profile of whoever the hell did this to another level. Because that's a lot of balls.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Whole lot of balls just to not even think maybe there's someone still keeping an eye on it or.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

No paranoia. So they do an investigation here, obviously. Because if this is what it looks like, first of all, I haven't found Amy yet.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Right.

[James Petregallo]

But they did find blood and her underwear and sneakers, and that's not a good sign. So, you know, this is if they did. If it looks like it what it looks like there's a very, very dangerous person walking around. So.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah. And you never.

[James Petregallo]

Scary.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Even if. Even if all that other shit's a coincidence, you don't walk away from your dad's car.

[James Petregallo]

That's the other thing that you borrowed.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Lights on. Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Right. Especially when you're being respectful your whole life. And now you're gonna be like, fuck that. I'm going to the party. That's not gonna happen. Oh, shit. I'm sleeping.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Me. I'm better than you.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. Nope. That's not. That's not what happened. Right. It's crazy. So it's not way out of character for Amy. She's not doing that. So they. The detectives screen video surveillance tapes from stores and bank ATMs near Smokey Joe's bar to try to see if they pick anything up. And this is 96. So there's security cameras at businesses and things. But this isn't just cameras everywhere.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

You know, not everybody has a camera.

[Jimmy Wissman]

And that footage bounces.

[James Petregallo]

It's like, oh, it's terrible.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's the worst.

[James Petregallo]

It's shitty, grainy. I mean, they're just hoping to see her and maybe see a car follower or something. That's all they're looking for, but.

[Jimmy Wissman]

And it's like six frames per minute rather than second.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, they jump ahead, too. Yeah. So they found Fine, though, that none of these. None of the film footage has Amy anywhere on it. So she didn't stop at any ATMs or stores near the bar that evening. So they're basically asking anyone with information about this to come forward and tell us basically, if you know anything, if you saw her that night, if you saw a car on the side of the road and people talking, you know, whatever it is, so forward. Someone comes here. Andrew Kobach is his name. K O B A Kobach.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

He's 23 years old, and he is the son of a pretty goddamn wealthy stockbroker. He's a pretty upper crusty kind of a rich kid here.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Son of a broker.

[James Petregallo]

Son of a broker. Lives in a big old house with a circular driveway and all that shit. Real fancy, fancy guy. He graduated from Harriton High School, then went to work for a tow truck company. That tells me rather than be a success, I've decided to wait dad out. That's what that is. He'll die someday, and then I'll move into that house and I'll just have what he has and not work for tow trucks anymore. I've seen people do this. People who come from like.

[Jimmy Wissman]

This is great for the both of us.

[James Petregallo]

Yep. I've seen people do this, man. Like, have, like, come from affluent families and they. I'm like, you're waiting your dad out, aren't you?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Generational wealth is just his and mine. That's it.

[James Petregallo]

Eventually I'll get it.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I'll run through it.

[James Petregallo]

Yep. And this is the type of guy, too. Like, his dad'll die and he'll find out that he left it all to, like, charity or something. And then he'll blow his fucking brains out. Yeah, some crazy shit.

[Jimmy Wissman]

The housekeeper gets the dog.

[James Petregallo]

This is for the housekeeper to take care of my three cats. That's what this is for. So Andrew Michael Kobach comes forward, and the cops know this guy by the way. They've known him a little bit here years earlier. He was accused of impersonating a police officer.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh, Kobach.

[James Petregallo]

The cops say that he would turn a siren on, instruct the driver to pull over. And you do it at night. So people just see a siren and they pull over, and then he would show them a badge, and he would say, do you know why I pulled you over, ma' am? Because inevitably, it was always a woman, never. Never a man. He pulled over and he'd say, there's a stop sign back there. You went right through it. He did this several times. This was his M.O. here. So somebody was suspicious. One of these motorists, he pulled over, one of these ladies and turned him in.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Good.

[James Petregallo]

And saw his car drive away. Got his license plate, all that. But he was never charged for some reason.

[Jimmy Wissman]

So what does he do? What's the point?

[James Petregallo]

I don't know if he's trying to meet women this way or if this is to get the balls up to try to. Because this is a thing that, like, you know, a serial killer would do. So they don't know if, like, it's the beginning steps of getting the balls up to actually abduct somebody from this situation or assault somebody in some way. In some way. They don't know. So. But he was never charged with anything, which is very odd.

[Jimmy Wissman]

He's not given tickets or anything. He's just.

[James Petregallo]

No, no, no. He's just telling him, you ran through that stop sign. We give you a warning there. It's just to have control over a woman, it seems like to me. Like, that's. Psychologically, I would imagine. I'm not a fucking. Yeah, obviously a psychiatrist. But, you know, so he. So the cops knowing that about him and seeing him come forward, they're like, we don't like that. Because that's sort of probably what happened to her. Somebody got her to pull over, and maybe he just. Rather than the siren, that draws a lot of attention, maybe he decided to do a little bump and that'll get him out of the car the same way. So he comes forward and said he'd been driving on Route 476 on the night Amy disappeared, and he said he saw something suspicious in the vicinity of her car as well.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Okay.

[James Petregallo]

So they went, you are 100% a suspect right now in this fucking. Obviously. Like, if you're inserting yourself into this investigation, knowing your past, you are right on our radar right up front here. So they said the first reason is his criminal history. Obviously. Then he also. Not only that, just kind of the nature of how he did that was creepy and suspect. And also he Just seems a little bit too fucking interested. That's the other thing.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah, he's too.

[James Petregallo]

This isn't a good friend of Amy's or somebody that'd be like, I'm gonna help find her. This is what criminals do a lot of times. I mean, it's a. They insert themselves into the investigation because they want to know where it stands and all that kind of shit. So this is a very weird unforced error that a lot of murderers do is to insert themselves. They look less guilty if they're helping search for the body and whatever the fuck their plan is. I don't know. So they said, they described his interest as an overzealous interest in the case, including. They said he showed up to the crime scene shortly after her car was found as well. Oh, and then came forward the next day to talk to them too.

[Jimmy Wissman]

You were there last night.

[James Petregallo]

But then later on he'll deny that he was ever at the crime scene, even though there's police notes of this guy showed up and said, this time. So that's interesting. And it was also discovered that the tow truck company he worked for was three blocks from something we'll find later on here. So he knows this area. He knows all of the areas he was in the area the car was found. And then he's in another area that is very interesting to this investigation and that is June 20, 1996. So the next day, that day later, they found her. They found the car at 2 in the morning. So later on that day, about 5pm okay, they figure out that about three blocks from where the tow truck company is nearing a vacant trash strewn lot at 16th street and Indiana Avenue here. I'll let a kid describe it. A kid was there playing Picturing Goodfellas when they're all playing by the under the bridge there, they're playing stickball and they find fucking. Yeah, they find fucking Johnny Roast Beef and his wife in the Cadillac and Layla starts to play. Yeah, the second fucking verse of Layla. Yeah. Well, this kid said, quote, I sniffed and smelled something. Then I saw it and I ran.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

It is Amy's body that they find. She is naked, face down with two plastic bags covering her head.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

This is a horrifying way for this. This is terrible. This is ridiculous. This is a nice girl. She doesn't deserve to be dumped in a fucking lot like that. That's awful. Jesus Christ, dump someone in a fucking river. At least. At least there's something to that. This is just awful.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Barrier in between eyes and all the Other.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, I'm sure there's some cultures that used to throw their dead in the river as some sort of sign of respect. It's something. But nobody said let's leave grandma in this trash strewn lot with her ass out, you know what I mean? With a bag over her head. That's just disrespectful.

[Jimmy Wissman]

The burial at sea is done for a reason.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So one of the homicide detective here with the Philadelphia Police Department, Jeff Piri or Peary, he described what he found here. This is from his report. So this is pretty graphic here. The body has numerous bruises and abrasions all over the body. You didn't need to say body twice, but that's fine. There are severe head wounds to the front of the head. And the right nostril is sliced open. Why? It's just torture. It's awful. There's a large gaping wound into her skull and the forehead and the back of the head. As may show a type of crushing from apparently multiple blows to the same area in the back of the head. Which the brain I believe was basically exposed at that point. Beat her fucking skull open. Literally just beat her to with something they don't know. So she had a pattern of burning type markings on her right flank and under her right arm from some type of element that was hot that would cause burning of the skin. Some sort of like a, you know, a brand almost. But not a brand like a. No letters or anything but just a poker like a hot plate almost. Because it's a big area. We'll talk about it. Because they figure out what that is. There were bruises and abrasions which appear to be defense wounds on the inside of the right arm and on the right wrist. There were drag marks on her back and on her shoulders. I think the inside of her lip was split. There were three or four definite aligned bruised abrasions across the lower part of her spine. As if she was being dragged down something on a hard surface over several steps or off something hard and onto something hard. So down steps like concrete steps or curbs even. Could be she had on her right. I believe it was her right side. Her buttocks area between the waist and the upper part of the lower part of the hip in a 6 inch square. Two large long drag mark cuts from some type of object she was dragged over. They were almost square and rectangular, just surgically implanted. But they were basically dragged over something that was a pattern object, a patterned object that tore the skin from her. There was a cut over her right Eye and again the forehead. There were two severe cuts that penetrated the skull. And that's not all. That's not all the physical horrors that were inflicted upon her as well. Here the medical examiner decides the victim's injuries included multiple blunt force injuries to the head, brain and face. An abraded contusion on her left shoulder and upper chest. A rectangular shaped contusion beneath her left breast. A patterned angular thermal injury meaning a burnt resembling a flower petal on her right lower chest and upper abdomen. Numerous fractures in her neck. Think about this, man. She's been killed four fucking times over. Bruises on her left and right thighs and defensive wounds on her left and right forearms. There was intact degenerate sperm. I don't know what that means medically, but whoever did this is certainly a fucking degenerate. Putting degenerate sperm in people. Yeah, that's one thing I would say.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Look at you even just found him gambling on horses.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, just sitting outside flipping a nickel, eating a toothpick. Gambling. Gambling on the long shot.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That's a degenerate.

[James Petregallo]

Gambling at the long shot dog over at the downs there. That's not good. Okay, so there was intact degenerate sperm found in the vaginal cavity. In addition, this is just horrifying. There was a tree branch that had been forced into her vagina that was left there. Yes, that's how she was found. With a tree branch sticking out. We've had that a few times on this show. And.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It'S weird because it's clearly the most humiliating and horrific thing you can do.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, well, just from books I've read, this is odd because just from books I've read, usually when this is done, there's usually a guy who can't sexually perform and sexually can't rape like he wants to. So he does this out of anger and then maybe will like conjurek off afterwards on them or something that they'll find sperm on them. But to find sperm in her and then have him do is very fucking weird and very shows the level of anger and violence I think that is going on here toward women at least this woman, you know what I mean? There was no blood surrounding or beneath the body or leading up to or away from the body. So she wasn't killed here by far. Well, dead, no bleeding. It stopped everything indicating she was not killed on the site, but rather had been killed elsewhere than moved. So less than this is. Christ, less than 24 hours. Now one of the things where she's identified very quickly because they obviously think it's her. Sure. But she has a Nike logo tattooed on her ankle, and that was one of the things that her parents said. Nike logo tattooed on ankle. So that.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Very 96.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, very 96. Yeah. Just do it. Is her whole thing in life. And I could see her being like, yeah, man, just do it, you know?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

It just seemed like her attitude, spirit, type of deal. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was a big deal in the 90s to go fucking. A Nike tattoo or a Wu Tang logo, either one. Those are the two that were pretty big. So the medical examiner talks about all of this and said that. Jesus. They said that it looked like she'd been struck in the head multiple times with a rough, hard implement, causing fractures going all the way through the top of her skull, side of her skull, and inside and bottom of her skull.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

As a result of these injuries, which would have required what they said was a great deal of force, she suffered massive brain injuries because of that. So awful. Also, technically here, a lot of abrasions, lacerations and contusions to her face. A torn frenulum. Oh, that's a piece between your nose. Yeah, that sad. Girls get cowed. Cow rings on.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That's the septum. Is. That piece of. That connects your. Your lip to your. To your gum.

[James Petregallo]

Oh, that's. That. That's right. That's what that is. Yeah, you're right there.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That's fucked up.

[James Petregallo]

That's. And her nostril too. They said so.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

An abraded contusion on her left shoulder and upper chest area resembling a heel print or tire bruises over her upper abdomen and lower chest area. And abraded contusion beneath her left breast. A thermal pattern like we talked about. They also said her hyoid bone, which sits very high up in the neck and is very hard to injure, was fractured. So as if beating her skull until her brains came out wasn't enough, you got to strangle her, too. Jesus Christ, man. That is hardcore. Was fractured. And bruising, scrapes, and hemorrhaging in the neck area indicated a throttling injury resulting from someone gripping the neck strongly, perhaps multiple times. Wow, that's horrifying. I mean, this a. She put up a fight, number one, as you would expect. But this is horrifying. I mean, this is every piece of her. There's nothing on her that's not bruised or scratched or injured in some way, shape or form, just beaten throughout her whole body. Skull bashed in, sexually mutilated like. There's no. It's all horrifying. Horrifying.

[Jimmy Wissman]

So calm. This is just a violent evening.

[James Petregallo]

It's. Yeah, that is.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Or fucking long. They had him.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. And it's not. It's not. It's not for purpose. Like any one of these things would render her in a state where you could do whatever gross thing you were wanting to do. I don't understand. The killing her three times over bit doesn't make a lot of sense to me, so. And I can imagine, here's Amy's father talking. It wouldn't make much sense to them either. He said that was the hardest day of the whole thing, not knowing where she was. There was more of a relief when they found her body in Philadelphia, that I had her back, that we could help find out what happened to her. Nobody could bring her back to life, but at least I had her, which is a. Jesus, that's a sad. That's. So as a parent, really hard place to get to.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Terrible place to rest too, and be like, satisfied with. In. In the circumstances.

[James Petregallo]

Absolutely. So the result of the autopsy, she's 5 to 120 pounds too. So tough or not, she's small. I mean, she is tough or whatever, but I mean, that's still small enough to where a bigger person could physically dominate them regardless, you know what I mean? I could, I could put you in the. In the ring with 120lb MMA fighter. You probably kick his ass, you know what I mean? In the end, having maybe 50, 60 pounds on someone's a lot, you know what I'm saying?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Petregallo]

I mean, you just pummeled his face. You'd probably. Because you could like pick his little body up if he tried to latch on to you and just smash it against something by the neck. That's what I mean. Like if he tried to do one of those, I'm wrapped around you, I just pick his ass up and bash him against something until he fell off, because that's too small to fight me, you know what I mean? So I'm not trying to make obviously jokes about her, but if this was like, that's a small person. So the cause of death is multiple blunt force injuries to her head and face. Medical examiner estimated she died about 7 o' clock in the morning. Now, there is no exact science, obviously, to this, so the best you're gonna do is about four hours in each direction kind of a deal. But either way, they're thinking she was killed. Well, after she was abducted, someone took her and had some time with her first and then dumped her there. Incapacitated her at the scene, took her to wherever he wanted to take her to, did whatever he wanted to do to her, and then dumped her off in that alley. So they're thinking that lot. So they're thinking there's three separate scenes here. Basically, yeah. They said they also thought that this was a crime of kind of a momentary crime of convenience, of opportunity. Yeah, that type of thing. They also said they think possibly that they may have known each other not well, but he might have seen her. This wasn't like. This wasn't the first time they've encountered each other. They think too. They don't know. They think, you know, well, that was the first thing is like, is this a momentary thing or did somebody stalk her? You know, we don't know.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's fucked up to want to do anything like that after you've already injured her enough to make her to make a person bleed and then from there do other things.

[James Petregallo]

That's crazy, because it seems like the first bashing of the skull and was the first thing that happened at the car because that's where a big pool of blood is. And that would incapacitate her. To be able to take her other.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Places and then do anything else. That's fucked up, man.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. It seems like the strangling is maybe because she wasn't dying fast enough from whatever else he was doing. I don't know. And the other thing that's the real mystery here is the burn pattern. She's got a weird burn pattern on her upper body, and they can't figure it out. They can't connect it to anything. It's a pattern. So it's obviously match it with whatever did it, but they don't know what did that. They can't figure it out, which is really difficult here to do. They're going to end up figuring it out, though. It's pretty crazy. So they also complete their analysis of the tire impressions at the scene, too, and we'll find out about that. Now, this is how a popular her family is and how popular she is and what a big deal this is in this area. Her funeral was attended by 4,000 people.

[Jimmy Wissman]

God dang, 4,000.

[James Petregallo]

That's so many fucking people. Like, we've done a show for 2,100 people that seemed like so many people. Imagine double that because you died, right? That's amazing to me. Incredible.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's a lot of people to care.

[James Petregallo]

That's wild. You know, her college lacrosse team wore their uniforms and formed an honor guard with their lacrosse sticks as her casket was Carried down the church steps, I mean. And terribly sad. Jesus Christ. This girl had her whole life, her whole future ahead of her. I mean, she was going to her senior year. She was going to be. The world is her oyster, man. So back to Andrew Kobach, the guy who came forward and said, hi, I want to tell you some stuff. And then they found out that. Yeah, so he came forward and said, hi, I want to tell you some stuff. Then they found out that. So he was at the scene where the car was. And then they found out his tow yard is three blocks from where the body's found. So they're very interested in him. So now he. Right away, they say him going back to the scene is characteristic of people who commit crime sometimes. So they didn't like that. And the return to the vicinity of it, maybe to get a feel of what's going on. So they search his vehicle and home. Okay, in his vehicle number one, he has Firestone 440, 13 inch tires, often found on small compact cars. Very common tire. His car does not have those tires. That's the tire they're looking for. So his tire does not have that tire.

[Jimmy Wissman]

13 inch tires.

[James Petregallo]

13 inch, yeah. 440, 13 inch for a little tiny car, that's what you get.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Or Dayton's.

[James Petregallo]

Or Dayton's. One of the two. Or old dog. From fucking menace to society. One of the two is gonna be that.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Looking for a guy In a Lincoln.

[James Petregallo]

13, we're looking for a guy in a fox body. Mustang is what we're looking for here. Gonna get carjacked. Cold wire. 13 inch daytons, baby. So a search of his vehicle and home uncovered some weird shit, including police related paraphernalia.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Right.

[James Petregallo]

Handcuffs and a flashlight.

[Jimmy Wissman]

You son of a bitch.

[James Petregallo]

That's not good at all. But his tires don't match. So he agrees to the search of his car. They found the handcuffs in the glove compartment and a five cell flashlight, which is the big car. Cop flashlight, the big beach with it. Mag light. They also noticed the interior of the car was unkempt except for the rearmost cargo area, which appeared to have just been cleaned. None of this is good for him. Looking bad in the middle of the search. Because it was a consent. They didn't have a warrant. They came to him and he gave consent. In the middle of him finding this shit, he pulled his consent, he stopped the search in the middle of it, finding too many clues, no more, and he just stopped cooperating from then on again, not great.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Guilty. I'd have thought that was gonna make Me look not guilty, but wrong.

[James Petregallo]

Yep, it looks real guilty. So they search his home and found nothing. When they get a warrant for that. So they finally collect blood from him, and they're like, let's find out for sure here. They get a DNA sample, compare it with the crime scene. Remember, there's sperm and everything else at the crime scene. There's semen there. Dn. And they're. I mean, the cops are like, well, when this comes back positive, they got his. They got, like, Andrew stenciled in some cuffs that they're gonna go arrest this motherfucker because they really wanted this guy, whoever did this. They really want them bad for this. Everybody does. It's not just the cops, the parents, everybody. This is you. This is fucked up. To kill someone like that. It's just wrong. Turns out, not a match.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Is that right?

[James Petregallo]

Not a match. He's not. The cops were like, get the fuck out of.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Fuck.

[James Petregallo]

Let's do that. Run that again. Still not a match. Holy shit. They thought they had their guy dead to rights. Now the tire track's not matching, but they're like, he could have had another car. Who knows? It all fits too perfectly. His tow yard being right by where the body is, him showing up at the crime scene, him coming forward, everything. Yeah, it's not his. Anything. They find out they have no car to connect him to it, and it is not. It's not his DNA at the scene, period. So now what do we do? They're like, they don't know what to do. So they said that. Here's from a newspaper article. Media crews descended on Kobach street to watch the search from curbside. The press stakeout continued outside Kobach's front door in the days that followed. He was the guy, period. That's. Everyone was like, oh, they found the guy.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah, we vet hard.

[James Petregallo]

Yep, there was material. This is a. One of the cops here. Oh, I'm sorry. This is the. He has a lawyer. He's going to sue news organizations. He's saying. Now Kobach is. They said there was material that was false and misleading and disparaging. His lawyer said some news organizations did not handle this very responsibly. They also blamed over aggressive police work, saying many of the things contained in the police affidavit were misleading and in some instances, false in an effort to create probable cause. I don't know about that sound. He sounded pretty goddamn guilty, especially his M.O. of bumping, of trying to get girls to pull over. I don't like that at all. Makes sense. They'd go after this guy. But anyway, after that, he is their one and only suspect. And that's how we got and one and only clue. He's the only one who came forward and said, I saw something. No one else knows anything. The only other people are like, I saw her at the bar and then she left. That's it. So this is not good. At that point, the case is going cold. So they're searching for links to it at all. They look into 11 different incidents, five of which prove to be false in the end. In which women report being pulled over and harassed by a man impersonating a police officer. How is that almost a 50% fake rate on that? Why then why the fuck would you call the cops and say that's happening to you if you didn't, that didn't happen to you. What? I don't understand what you're getting at.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Maybe the other portion is the one that's calling while they're being pulled over. And they're like, yeah, we are trying to pull you over.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, that's. That's us. Yeah, that's me. See, look, they wave out of the car window. See me? That's my hand. Pull the fuck over. Yeah, they just tap to patch it right into my phone here. That's why. So that's what they do over the summer, trying to figure it out. And they don't figure anything out.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Okay.

[James Petregallo]

And a year goes by and nothing happens. Oh, nothing. They have literally nothing they're putting out.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Not good.

[James Petregallo]

No. There's rewards and there's.

[Jimmy Wissman]

We've got jizz. How are we not doing it?

[James Petregallo]

I'm saying this is the 90s and we have fucking jizz. Literally jizz on the table, babe. Let's get this going. This is all we need, a full, intact sperm.

[Jimmy Wissman]

This is literally the only thing we need to solve cases.

[James Petregallo]

And we got degenerate sperm. That's what we need. Filthy, dirty, degenerate sperm. And we have it. So. June 1997, in Ardmore, Pennsylvania, in Montgomery county, police receive a call from a woman who lives in this area. She said that a man was trying to break into her home and that she had started hearing the doorbell repeatedly ringing at 6:45am Which I guess if you're trying to get someone to come out, that's a good way to do it. Because I'm coming out real upset. If you're ringing my doorbell repeatedly swinging at 6:45. Yeah, I'm coming out with a bat in my hand and my boxer shorts.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Angry I'll be holding something menacing, I assure you. Yeah, whether it's my hard dick or a pistol.

[James Petregallo]

Watch. Are you doing? What are you doing? Why are you here? I yelled at that old lady at 10 o' clock in the morning for fucking ringing my doorbell 400 times because she thought I was a chiropractor. And I'm not.

[Jimmy Wissman]

6:30. I'm either aroused or I have to piss. Either way, this thing's hard.

[James Petregallo]

Watch. Yeah, I'm coming. Is that what you want to get? Is that what you want to get chased down in my driveway by a guy with a rock hard dick and a baseball bat? A rock hard dick and a Kirby Puckett model? Is that what you're looking for? Because that's what I got right now.

[Jimmy Wissman]

You don't want this smoke.

[James Petregallo]

You don't want none of it. You want nothing. I will wave my Ohtani at you in many ways.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I'll beat you to death with something, I promise.

[James Petregallo]

Me and my Mike Trout are coming for you. Don't you worry about that. So she called 911 after seeing the man at the door was someone she didn't fucking know. Who's no. 1. Unofficial business. Is ringing your doorbell at 6:45 in the morning? No. And if it's, let's say I have like a big truck, like a gas company thing or something nobody's buying.

[Jimmy Wissman]

What your door to door selling at 6:30? Man, this is not normal business hours. Fuck out of here.

[James Petregallo]

Either way I'm swinging though. So the cops come and arrest this guy.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

And they ask him for his name and he says it's Peter Thomas Love. That's what he says his name is. L O B E P T Love. Nearby is a 1993 black Honda Civic and the keys to that car are in this man's pocket. So his car. Now when the license plate is run, they find out that he is not Peter Thomas Love. No, he is actually Arthur Jerome Bomar. B O M A R. Yeah. Okay, Now Bomar here, we'll find out a little about him. Basically, the cops put him like this. They say he's extremely well spoken, definitely intelligent. Almost like he wanted to challenge us and match wits with us. Which is an odd way to go about a police interaction.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Right?

[James Petregallo]

They talked at length with him here. They said you could see how women would be drawn to him. She said he's kind of a captivating guy here. So Arthur Jerome bomar is born March 3, 1959. Okay. Now the odd thing is that they found out that at 11:25pm on June 20th. So about six and a half hours after Amy's body was found, he was stopped by the police at the intersection of 20th street and Erie Avenue in Philadelphia, eight blocks from there where the body was found. Right at the time, he was driving a green 1993 Ford Escort. Now, he didn't get arrested at that time, though. He just got stopped by the cops. Little bit about Arthur here to give you a background of who they're talking to when they're not arresting him for shit. Okay. He's born in Milwaukee. He lived in Vegas, went to high school in Vegas. Las Vegas. Dropped out of high school and became a janitor.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Wow.

[James Petregallo]

Okay. Now, they had some problems with him. First of all, the break in, the attempted break in. That. We'll talk about that. They just stopped him for that. He's ringing the doorbell at 6:45. That was after. There's another woman right around that time named Patty Jordan, who's 19 years old. She reported shortly before the attempted burglary because they're connecting him together, him ringing the doorbell. And this happening a couple days before that. A man in a black Honda had followed her home after she left a nightclub. Remember, the black Honda Civic was found nearby the doorbell ringing scene there. She said that the car followed her, then bumped into her several times into her back bumper, with the driver motioning for her to pull over, but she refused and just kept driving.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah, that's weird because.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, it's the middle of the night and I'm not gonna be alone with some weird guy in the street who's hitting me. That's not the way you get people to pull over, Hit it, hit their car repeatedly. I said, pull over. Bang. Oh, thanks. This guy obviously wants to help me.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Car accident. Didn't you feel that? Look, we did another.

[James Petregallo]

No. Well, how about this?

[Jimmy Wissman]

There's another.

[James Petregallo]

So Patty said, at the next light, my car must have made the light. That car must have made the light. And I didn't. And that's where he hit my car. I just went. And he motioned for me to pull over. And I was like, you hit my car? And he was like, just pull over, pull over. And it turned green and I just kept going. And my headlights shone on his license plate. And that's how I got his license plate.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Whoopsie daisy.

[James Petregallo]

Which she reported to the police, her being AKB 1149. Now, when the license plate was run at that time, they found the car to be registered to Arthur.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Yes. So this meant that they were now wondering A couple of things here. A, they want to talk to him about Amy Willard just because he was in the area that night and bumping into a car very shortly afterwards. The second here reason is that when the license plate number was run for a second time and police discovered that the license plate number was not registered to a Honda, but rather to a 93 Ford Escort, a green one, as a matter of fact, that he had back at the time. So he just took this plate and put it on another car, took the Honda, took a plate off the Escort, put it on a Honda Civic. The Honda he was driving belonged to a woman named Maria Cabuenos, who had been reported missing, what, March 18, 1997, and was believed to have been abducted from Interstate 476, the exact same highway that Amy Willard's car was found on.

[Jimmy Wissman]

This is unbelievable.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, this is bad. This is making Andrew look very innocent all of a sudden, isn't it? He looks so guilty for a minute there.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Now Arthur's in so much more trouble than Andrew ever could have been.

[James Petregallo]

Arthur's used to it. We'll talk about Arthur here. Yeah, they look into his history, and when they look into his history, they're like, holy shit. How is this guy not in fucking in prison already? How is this guy even out to do this shit? Okay, little about his early life here. This is from his sister, who said his sister Joyce, who will turn out to be a social worker later on. You come from this background, you're a social worker or you're Arthur. There's no there. It's really hard to have an in between there. You know what I mean? Or you're a drug addict or something. There's one of the three. So Joyce is a social worker and Arthur's older sister. They have the same mother but different fathers. Now, the sister was raised by a grandmother and later an aunt. So, you know, the family's really doing great here. She said she was in the fourth grade when she moved in with the Bomars with her mom and her new stepdad, who is Arthur Bomar Sr. Okay. Arthur Bomar. Yes. This was in Milwaukee at the time when Arthur was born. So she said, quote, it was hell, talking about the living conditions. They were their house. She said during that time there was a lot of violence. She described her stepfather, Arthur Sr. Arthur's dad, as a man who drank and sexually abused her.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh, my God.

[James Petregallo]

This is not a good house to grow up in at all. She recounted incidents in which. Which one of the other sisters fought or I'm sorry. The mom fought back. I'm sorry. One of the other sisters fought back, even setting fire to her bedroom another one time. And to try to get attention, I guess, to get the authorities attention. Like that kid who was trapped in.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That room, you know, with the handy wipes or whatever.

[James Petregallo]

Yep. With the hand sanitizer. And another time chopping the furniture up with an ax to get attention. She said, I can't remember any time that everyone wasn't fighting. Talking about her mom and her stepdad. So obviously this is not a great environment for anyone to come up with if there's sexual physical abuse. The house is catching on fire on purpose. Furniture's being chopped up. Not a stable environment.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Lashing out with flames and axes.

[James Petregallo]

Wow. And they said that basically this is a descriptor from another family member. Said that Arthur was, quote, born to a mother who had her own major psychological difficulties and appeared to be psychotic and was most likely exposed to alcohol at a young age. Meaning Arthur was. If the mom's psychotic, what do you call the dad?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Right.

[James Petregallo]

He's fucking sexually abusing children.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Sociopath.

[James Petregallo]

What the fuck, man? They also said that he witnessed and was the subject of physical abuse and lived in environments that were chaotic and violent, was exposed to significant and multiple traumas due to repeated physical, sexual, emotional abuse and abandonment.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Jesus.

[James Petregallo]

So what you're going to get is either Arthur or a social worker.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

And there's not. You know what I mean?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

So that's dark.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Or it's fixing it. It's continuing.

[James Petregallo]

Or it's fixing people.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah. Right. Or breaking the cycle. Right.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. Or you're going to have four alcoholic husbands. Otherwise, before maybe you find one that's not, you're going to have the cycle, as we all know. So 1978 in Las Vegas here, okay? So Arthur is, you know, a teenager at this point. In Las Vegas, there's a guy named Larry Carrier. Okay. And Arthur, at the time, is married, has a wife named Tammy. Okay. And he's hanging out with Tammy and their two friends who both have nicknames, not real names. Here Blondie K is the woman. And the guy they're hanging out with is known as, quote, Service Station Bob. That's a really long nickname. That's quite the handle. Service Station Bob involved.

[Jimmy Wissman]

We got a Bob we need.

[James Petregallo]

He's the guy who shits up the gas stations. They call him Service. He only eats food that comes from the microwave at the gas station.

[Jimmy Wissman]

He eats that bomb burrito.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. One pound, 89 cents. You know, that's a problem there.

[Jimmy Wissman]

89 cents a burrito.

[James Petregallo]

A giant burrito I used to get in Arizona. Those four for a dollar burritos at the grocery store. Latinas. Yeah, we talked about those. We gotta do those on your stupid opinions because they were so bad.

[Jimmy Wissman]

All the reviews gotta be. They've all gotta be. I have indigestion. I ate this two months ago.

[James Petregallo]

Well, the nice part about them is you first bite, you'd burn the shit out of your mouth. But by the third bite, there was ice in there to actually cool it down. So it was actually. It was helpful. I remember eating like all the way up to the middle of it and then throwing that out. It was still frozen, but the sides were overdone. So there's.

[Jimmy Wissman]

You put a slice of cheese on it and leave it in the microwave. The cheese helps bake. The center does it because it's boiling lava on top.

[James Petregallo]

I guess so. Can't hurt. I never thought to mix like cheese. That's worth more than the burrito in with the burrito. A slice of cheese is worth more than that whole burrito, man.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's like 35 cents.

[James Petregallo]

A decent slice of cheese.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

So this was outside Arthur's apartment on July 25, 1978. They're all hanging out, and a man named Larry Carrier who showed up, began arguing with the group about a parking space in the apartment complex. That doesn't seem like much of a beef. It's a parking space. You could figure it out, right?

[Jimmy Wissman]

No, there's supposed to be a sign, but. Okay.

[James Petregallo]

Arthur went in his house, got a.22 caliber rifle, shot and killed Larry Carrier.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Whoa.

[James Petregallo]

Overall shot and killed him.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Apartment complex, parking space.

[James Petregallo]

Parking space, yeah. This is crazy. This isn't like New York City where you paid for this parking space. You pay 1200 bucks a month and someone parked there and you lose your mind because there's nowhere else to park. Just park 10ft over. What the hell are we talking about? No. Shot and killed this man dead. Okay. He's charged with second degree murder. Yeah, but set free on $20,000 bail.

[Jimmy Wissman]

We can. Who in the murder charge system thinks.

[James Petregallo]

That'S okay for an 18 year old who's not. He's not like in school. He's a high school dropout and a janitor. He could. You could disappear into the. Into Mexico in. No problem. No time at all. He could be in fucking Tijuana. So he's out of jail and In January of 1979, six months later, barely. Here is a headline from the newspaper. There Police hold janitor in Sparks shooting. Yeah, a 19 year old Reno janitor because he took off from Vegas on bail on a Vegas murder charge, was arrested Sunday night in Sparks in connection with the shotgun wounding of a Reno woman.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh my God. Now he's got a shotgun.

[James Petregallo]

He's escalating from men to women and from 22s to shotguns. That's not great. He was booked into the Sparks jail on charges of attempted murder, battery with a deadly weapon, assault with a deadly weapon and burglary. You know what his bail is for that. Now consider he's already out on bail for murder. 27,500.

[Jimmy Wissman]

We're gonna up at seven grand for.

[James Petregallo]

Another two shootings in. Now the victim, Sherry Naumann, an 18 year old grocery store clerk was admitted to the hospital with a large hole above one knee. He kneecapped her with a shotgun. This broad's never going to walk the same again. From 18 on. So police said she and Arthur know each other. But police didn't immediately determine a motive for the shooting, which occurred at 6:51pm Saturday. And said the victim and her mother, Joanne Naumann, were sitting on a couch in the mother's residence at 90 East Lenwood Drive when a man entered and fired a shotgun twice at them. He busted into the house and started blasting shots off. The first shot hit a vanity next to Mrs. Nauman and the second hit her daughter in the leg. And then the gunman fled. Okay, little more on that the next day in the newspaper. Father of wounded girl reports more shots coming back. Yeah, Father of a Sparks woman wounded by a shotgun blast reported to police that someone also tried to shoot him on Tuesday.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Going after the family too.

[James Petregallo]

Wow, this is crazy. Yeah, Mel, we don't know why this is like to run into someone's house. They didn't even wait for him to come outside. Melvin Cnauman, a supervisor for L and L Roofing of Reno, told Reno police someone fired a shotgun at him as he was helping to load a truck at the company at 4.25pm he said he was not wounded, but pellets hit the truck. He said that after hearing the shot, he saw a car leaving the area of the company here and Reno police planned to confer with Sparks police to determine if there's a connection with the shooting. You think they're both shotguns? It's the same family. What kind of coincidence would that have to be? Everybody's just, oh my God, that is crazy. The thing is, they think it's one of Arthur's friends. They said Sherry and a man arrested in connection with her shooting Saturday are friends. She and Arthur were pals. So we don't know what happened between them. And Arthur was in custody at the time of the second shooting. They'd already arrested him. It wasn't him, but it's got to be part of this. So she had a three and a half inch hole in her leg. That is fucking crazy. The police, they charge it. That's a slug. Then it's yeah, three and a half inch holes. It's not a pellet.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That's a slug.

[James Petregallo]

But then pellets were loaded because pellets were found in the truck.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Probably staggered.

[James Petregallo]

Maybe birdshot, buckshot. Yeah, there you go. Never know. So that is. I don't even know what to say about that. That's crazy. So 1979, he goes to trial for second degree murder. And he's convicted, you know, because he did it in broad daylight in front of fucking five people. Yeah. And that's the parking lot parking space murder here. Now the murder charge, the attempted murder charge in the other case was dismissed in exchange for a guilty plea of battery with a deadly weapon at that. In that case, he is convicted. He is sentenced to. You, sir, may fuck off. Life in prison with parole. With parole, with parole. And they add an extra 10 years to it for the deadly weapon assault with a deadly weapon charge.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

So life with parole. You think that that's going to keep him away for a while now that's in 1979. And by 1996, he's doing the things he's doing as we know him. So January 1986. 86. Now, 10 years before Amy was killed, he's in prison in Nevada. He is forced to plead guilty because while he's in prison, he beat the shit out of his girlfriend in the prison visiting room.

[Jimmy Wissman]

She came to see.

[James Petregallo]

Hello. The visiting room of. Yeah, he heard she was seeing someone or whatever the fuck it was. Who knows? This fucking idiot said, I'll get away with this in the prison visiting room. You're already in prison, you fucking dummy. So, yeah, he faces sentencing on the assault charge because he takes a guilty plea on that. He is charged with battery and an extra 18 months were tacked onto his sentence. Okay, 1990, he's released on parole.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Wow.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, he did 11 years.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That's a bad guy.

[James Petregallo]

A kill, a murder, an attempted murder. Obviously has no respect for anything. If you'll beat your girlfriend, you'd think that would delay his parole at least because even that happened in Prison. But, no, that is crazy. To only do 11 years for a murder charge. It's not like he went in there and, like, got a college degree and started teaching the other inmates to speak fucking Swahili or something. Like, there's no. He does nothing positive. He's just been an asshole and they're gonna let him out anyway. It doesn't make any sense. I don't get it. So anyway, he's. While on parole, he says, I don't like Nevada. I'd like to get out of here, go somewhere else.

[Jimmy Wissman]

They know what I do here.

[James Petregallo]

They know. And Nevada is like, well, yeah, sure, love to get him out of our fucking care. That'd be terrific.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's a small place. They know.

[James Petregallo]

They know. Everybody knows what he does. So he decides he wants to move. Guess which state he wants to move to.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Pennsylvania.

[James Petregallo]

Pennsylvania. And he's granted permission by the authorities in both Nevada and Pennsylvania, and he would then become a part of Pennsylvania's parole system now. So by that time, the reason he wants to move is because his mother had moved from Nevada to Pennsylvania.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Okay.

[James Petregallo]

And he also had family and friends in the Philadelphia area. So Nevada officials gave him permission to move.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

And assigned him a new parole officer out there. So he ends up moving. He ends up moving to Warrington in Bucks County.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

And which is the home of his father or his mother and his stepfather? Because now his mother and father are divorced, you know, which makes sense, I hope his father's in prison because he's beating and molesting children. Yeah. So they said that Pennsylvania had no choice but to accept him. That's what the spokesperson for the board, State parole board, said. Mr. Bomar's case fell under what is considered mandatory acceptance via the interstate compact, in that he had established a residence and had an offer of employment. He had a place to live, and they found him a job. So, yeah, you can't say no. You have to stay here and have no place to live, essentially. I think that those rules are different now. Though his parole officer recounted him this way. The Nevada parole officer. This is a guy who really hates women and despises them and wants to punish them and wants to feel virile and feels that he deserves this. This is his way of getting back, Right? Yeah. He hates his fucking mother is what it is here, obviously. And he acts like he also idealizes her and everything else, but in the.

[Jimmy Wissman]

End, does not like her at all. He doesn't like her, his feelings and.

[James Petregallo]

For what happened to him, for sure. So if a woman's If a woman's crazy, you go, where's dad? If a guy's crazy, you go, where's Mom? It's just the way it is. I mean, there's exceptions, but that's the general rule here. So November of 1990, he's going to. He's in Pennsylvania, I would think. Low profile. If I'm this guy, I just think so, yeah. Got out of prison for murder. In 11 years, they're gonna be looking at me for everything, I would think.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Absolutely.

[James Petregallo]

Okay. Now, there's a woman named Theresa Thompson. Her car ends up getting stuck in the mud outside the American Legion hall in Warrington. And she can't get it out of the car, out of the mud. She's stuck. So just then, a big man with a deep voice stopped and offered her help. He said, I'm Arthur Bomar. I'd love to help you.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I'm your hero.

[James Petregallo]

She's thrilled, this woman, she's like, oh, thank fuck she's stuck in the mud. Someone wants to help you out of the mud, you take it. Yeah. So she was like, this is amazing. And all this. She said she was so taken with his kindness and just happy go lucky demeanor that she eagerly accepted his offer to come home with him. Oh, I guess that's better than buying her a drink. You pulled her out of the mud. That's harder. Anybody can plunk five bucks down in a bar.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I never thought to offer that, can I? Who would think, Can I change your flat tire and come sit on my face?

[James Petregallo]

Wow. Well, no, it's his family's home. So, yeah. After meeting his mom, stepfather and brother, she gave her his phone number and said, give me a call. Sometimes you seem like she knows he's a decent guy, he knows how to do stuff, and he's got what she thinks is a nice family sitting there. So what the hell, It's a good way to court.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Sure.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. You don't. Before your first date, you don't know all this shit about people. It'd be great to know. Oh, what's your family environment like? Oh, decent. Okay. Like he saw shit. You find out later.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Got me out of the mud, kept me safe, and then showed me his family. That's as safe as it gets.

[James Petregallo]

That's what I mean. Here's my mom. What's not safe about that? So in the weeks that followed here, she came to know Arthur a little bit. She also said he wasn't the same at all anymore after the first time they met. No. She described him as a cunning Obsessive abuser who flies into uncontrolled rages when he doesn't get what he wants.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Less of a knight in shining armor than before.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, that sounds more like Arthur, I think right there. Yeah. No, he's a knight in a shining shit suit at this point.

[Jimmy Wissman]

A shite in mining armor.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. So he. November 5, 1990, he's going to be arrested for an assault following an incident outside that very same American Legion hall. Okay. I don't know why everyone's hanging out at the American Legion so much, but.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Why is he hunting there?

[James Petregallo]

Well, Teresa Thompson told police that Arthur was harassing her in the hall. She knew him, she said in a court appearance, and described him as being usually a very nice guy, very quiet, very calm. She said he was just good to talk to. But she said that she rebuffed him this particular night. She didn't want to be with him as a girlfriend. And she headed out to a friend's car and she said that Arthur fucking followed her out there, dragged her out of the seat, picked her up and threw her onto the roof of another car, grabbed her by the hair and punched her in the forehead.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That's not terrifying or anything.

[James Petregallo]

Holy shit. That is insane. That's an action movie fight. Dragging someone in the car, throwing them on top and then punching their face.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's like something that happens in Deadpool, for Christ's sake.

[James Petregallo]

Fucking unbelievable. Yeah, it's some. It's. If that was two guys, it would almost be comical. It'd be like a righteous gemstones fight. But instead it's terrifying because it's some poor woman trying to run away from her.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Clearly an overwhelmed. You gotta start rooting hard on that underdog.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, this is poof. So now this was she. The problem of why he's so mad is she told him that she was staying home that night, but he caught her at the American Legion Hall. They don't. But they're not together. He just asked. He just did. She didn't want to go out with him that night. And she was with her boss, who was a guy. So they said that Thompson said they'd never really been out on anything. She would consider. Consider a date. But they talked on the phone for long periods of time. And Theresa's younger sister said he played that man role. Don't worry about your problems, I'll take care of him type of thing. But quickly his interest turned to obsession. The phone calls became more often. Sometimes eight or nine times a day. That is too often to call someone you're not with. Even too often to call someone you are with, unless they're really interested in talking to you about stuff that's too.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Much to call someone you've only slept with once, let alone not at all.

[James Petregallo]

Not at all. That's. That's a way to never get to sleep with them. Right there. So they. The sister said he was getting too persistent, too controlling. He'd say, I want you to meet. I want to meet you here or there. Or he'd then ask her, who are you seeing tonight? Where are you going? I know it's another man. He tried to get information out of her that wasn't there. So Teresa told her sisters to tell her to tell Arthur that she wasn't home when he called, but he became more demanding. And then sometimes she would pick up the phone and it would be him. So you're stuck then. Of those times was one of the Times was November 3, 1990. Arthur asked her if she was going out after work. She told him she wasn't. Later, she said she just decided to stop after work at the American Legion with her boss, Kevin Sadler. And that's when. That's when Arthur showed up and said, how dare you show up with another man yelling at him, huh? Teresa asked, said, leave me alone. But she said, he kept approaching me during the night, saying, don't you know how much I love you?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Who cares?

[James Petregallo]

I love you so much, it gives me the power to lift you from the ground, toss you onto the roof of a car and punch you in the forehead. That's how much I love you. Wow. When she and her girlfriend left, he followed. And that's what happened. He yanked her out by the hair from the car, threw her against the car, wrapped his hands around her neck. She said, help me, as he chokeslammed her onto the roof of the car and started punching her. Luckily, at that point, two men in the parking lot got a golf club from their car and walked toward Arthur. At that point, he let Teresa go and Theresa and the boss. This guy's a total pussy.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Ran away, right? Be like, you run away. I'm going to stay and help these two guys kick this guy's ass right now. You know what I mean? You go over there, though. But instead, they came up to him. He attacked the two guys, really took the golf club away from them and smashed their car windshield with it.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Approach dude, and you got it taken.

[James Petregallo]

Two guys.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Two guys.

[James Petregallo]

Two guys and a golf club can't beat one guy. That's pathetic.

[Jimmy Wissman]

If I got a putter Somebody's in danger.

[James Petregallo]

Deep fucking danger.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I'll open.

[James Petregallo]

That's pitiful. You give me a six iron, it is over. I will guillotine you with that.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Those are two dudes that were just trying to be white knights, that didn't have any intention.

[James Petregallo]

Hey, buddy, get out of here. With a golf club. And this is an aggressive criminal. This is an aggressive criminal who said, fuck you. Give me that fucking golf club. And then started smashing the. And they were just like, oh, man, now our windshield's fucked up, too.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Those are guys that didn't realize this man has shotgunned people.

[James Petregallo]

No. Every guy here is a pussy, though. Three pussies is what I'm getting out of this. Therese is the only one who's exchanged any fucking skin with this guy. All the rest of them like, oh, God, please don't hurt me.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I'm taking legs first. And then as he's on the ground nursing that knee, I'm taking his face off.

[James Petregallo]

These are like the guy's friends in Goodfellas when Henry Hill beats him with the fucking. Beats him with a gun in front of the Corvette in his driveway.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Please don't run any problems, don't shoot.

[James Petregallo]

The one guy says, which is hilarious. So anyway, this arrest could have sent him back to Nevada as a parole violation. And in fact, the Nevada officials indicated they wanted him back, but then didn't follow up on it or pursue it. He's only been there, like, three months in Pennsylvania now. That's what happened. But the. The. One of the people on the Nevada parole and probation board denied that and said we had placed a detainer on him. We were in the process to return him when the charges were dropped. He was given instructions to report back to Nevada, but Pennsylvania said they would resume supervision of him. Sure, we got him. It's fine. So the Willow Grove, the. The American Legion case with Teresa was dismissed. Do you know why it was dismissed?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Not enough evidence. I don't know.

[James Petregallo]

No, they didn't have Teresa's testimony because she died of a drug overdose.

[Jimmy Wissman]

No.

[James Petregallo]

Yep. Died of a drug overdose, according to the newspaper.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Damn it.

[James Petregallo]

And that is why she was unable to testify and give evidence against him. So there you go. Arthur skates on another one.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Wow.

[James Petregallo]

Imagine doing what he did that night and getting in no trouble for it. Imagine that you beat a woman senseless, fucking bashing some people's windshield who just tried to help a battered woman out with a golf club, and then no consequences for that. Wouldn't you just think I can get away with anything? I only did 11 years for a murder and a shotgunning, for Christ's sake.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Who's gonna stop me?

[James Petregallo]

Wow. So the next couple years he actually stays out of trouble, gets in no trouble, and continues to fulfill his parole obligations in Pennsylvania, which included monthly phone calls or field visits and face to face contacts as well. 1993, though, he starts to unravel a little bit here. He's not gonna keep it together forever. Let's be realistic. There was a fight in 1993 outside of the Horsham Inn. I guess it's a bar where he's arrested on simple assault and disorderly conduct charges. He pleads guilty and receives probation. How do you get probation when you're already on parole? I don't understand how that works. How does that work without having your parole revoked or anything. But that too. Could have revoked his Nevada parole. But the Nevada people said Pennsylvania parole officers recommended that Arthur remain under his. Their supervision. Still, they said, they asked why and they said, quote, there was a stable residence and stable employment and he received a one year probation. They figured no reason to rock the boat, send him back to the other state. In addition, she said Pennsylvania officials figured that since Nevada didn't bring him back in 91, they weren't going to bring him back for a lesser offense now. Yeah. So once again, they didn't. The Nevada officials have a different response for it, though. This is the one person from the board said, I can only respond to things we have documented. And that shows that Pennsylvania said they would keep us posted in 1995. They said they'll continue supervision and that his progress was satisfactory. So they're passing the buck back and forth, these two states.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah. Trying to force the other one to.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, they're 2,000 miles away. So they can just keep blaming each other. Nobody will take the blame. No, it's your fault. No, we wanted him, but no, they wanted him. So 1993, Arthur, obviously this guy is irresistible to the ladies. He gets married. Obviously. How could you not want to marry this man?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Somebody felt forced.

[James Petregallo]

Wow. He was working. He's real charming when he wants to be. That's what they all say. He was working as an orderly in Doylestown at the hospital, Doylestown Hospital in Bucks county when he met Joyce, who was a co worker at the hospital. Yeah. Now, the two were married in 1993, and Joyce said it was troubled right from the start. Arthur beat her and to the point where at one point she got a protection order and she later withdrew it. When he came back and tried to charm her. She has since filed for a divorce and that was in the works as well. So she's only married to her for like three years into that 96 period, as we'll talk about. Yeah, he repeatedly threatened and hit her is what the court document said too there. Because that's what he does, that's what he saw and that's what he knows. And he's done nothing to change it. Yeah. Now there's other ladies here. Not only is he married to Joyce, he's also engaged to a woman named Mary Rumer at the same time. R U M E R of Olney. So not only is he married and engaged, he's also dating a woman. He's in various states of a relationship here. You know what it is? He likes different states of a relationship. He likes to keep one in each state so he can really bask in the glory of it. He was dating a woman that he met at a Wawa in Warrington.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Sure.

[James Petregallo]

You meet those Wawa chicks, that's a keeper right there. She knows how to order a sandwich from the kiosk. And yeah, you got to do it. Now, none of the women knew about each other, by the way. He wasn't like he was keeping this all a secret, by the way.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Find a girl that makes a sandwich, that mows the lawn, does the dishes, and you. Right. And makes sure that no meet each other.

[James Petregallo]

That's the one. Yeah. That's a joke from the 40s and it's absolutely legit. It's like a Henny Youngman joke. But yeah, he's living it. He heard it and he lived it.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Because I know it. I know how it goes.

[James Petregallo]

During this time he also stalked dozens of women stealing clothes and ID cards from their vehicles. Basically. Later on they will find items belonging to as many as 40 women in a storage locker. God Dang, 40. And usually when he would do that, that meant he was going. That was like a placekeeper. I'll keep this one for later when I go after that person. Creepy. He's working. He worked several jobs during this period. One was the orderly at Doylestown Hospital where he met his wife who was a nursing assistant. He also worked for a tree surgeon. So you can add thief to that list too. Of shit. He's also a fucking thief that charges insane amounts of money for cutting a goddamn fucking tree limb down. The hospital fired Arthur in 1994 and he turned to odd jobs and he and Joyce moved into a trailer near Huntingdon, which is about a four hour trip into central Pennsylvania. At that point sometime. He is charged with a simple assault on October 17, 1995. Don't know what happened. It just says it was on North Front Street. This happened. He's charged with simple assault. So that's a goddamn. Another charge that he should have been taken off the street for. So anyway, they're living in Lansdale in Montgomery county in 1996. That's Arthur and Joyce. They settled into a weird little arrangement. Now, she had filed for divorce already and all that, but basically Arthur would spend Monday through Friday morning with her, and then he would go to the bars and clubs on the weekend and not come home. And that was the arrangement they had. Like, I'll be here during the week, but then I gotta be gone on the weekends.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I got bars to hit.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Stay at hotels does that.

[James Petregallo]

He's like a 12 year old whose mom has, you know, regular custody. He's like, on the weekends, I go spend it with dad. That's just the way it is.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I'll be at the arcade.

[James Petregallo]

Wow. So later in the summer, she moved to Huntington and didn't know that Mary Rumer was his fiance. And Rumer didn't know anything about Joyce. And that's how it was going. Joyce filed for divorce. She told investigators that her husband could go from being a, quote, raving lunatic to Mr. Nice Guy in 30 minutes. That's why she kept coming back. Mary Rumer, the other fiance, also said he had a split personality. Quote, one minute he's violent and abusive, the next he's charming. In other words, a dangerous, scary. And we know he's capable of violence. So it's not even like he trains to manipulate. We know he's capable of extreme fucking violence. So very, you know, little provoked also.

[Jimmy Wissman]

And the quintessential cyclical domestic violence scumbag.

[James Petregallo]

Absolutely. Yeah. Even his history fits into it. He's the guy. November 1996. November 23rd, to be exact. Police arrest him after he and Mary rumor his fiance rent a motel room in Montgomeryville and pay with a stolen credit card. So a stolen credit card should certainly get your parole revoked, right?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Should. Yeah. Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

He's released on bail. They let him off out of jail on Bailey. Okay. Even though he's on parole and probation at the same time. Two different forms of keeping an eye on this asshole.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Identity theft, which is like one of the worst forms of scumbaggery. That and.

[James Petregallo]

And fraud. Yeah, yeah, credit card fraud. All sorts of charges. Bad stuff. Mary was eventually cleared of the charges because I'm sure it wasn't her fucking idea.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It probably wasn't the card she stole.

[James Petregallo]

No, that's the thing. Next up. He has a problem at a Pep Boys establishment.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Really?

[James Petregallo]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Discount auto parts.

[James Petregallo]

Lots of fights happening at the old Pep Boys. Let me tell you something.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It is frustrating to have to be there. I get it.

[James Petregallo]

It is. It is. You asked for this model windshield wiper. You got the other one. You got it all the way home. It didn't fit. You gotta take it back now. Pain in the balls, so. Cause that's really what you go there for. So this is the Auto parts Pep Boys auto parts store in Willow Grove. He apparently went nuts on a clerk who didn't wait on him fast enough. Okay, it's a Pep Boys. No one in there is moving at a pace. I know pep is in the name, but there's no pep going on there. They're all half fucking manimo.

[Jimmy Wissman]

And Jack don't work here. No, it's their friends or their shitbag employees.

[James Petregallo]

They work in the other store in the other town.

[Jimmy Wissman]

They're up in corporate.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, you gotta find them. So this is from one of the workers here. Not the one. He attacked one standing next to him. He told her he attacked a female.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Female auto parts employee.

[James Petregallo]

He told her he was going to, quote, jump across the counter and slap her upside the head.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Upside the head.

[James Petregallo]

Remember that one hit you upside the head. And then another person came over to try to calm him down, who happened to be an off duty cop. And he threatened his life as well.

[Jimmy Wissman]

You don't want to do that.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. So he's convicted of disorderly conduct and fined $172. Really pull him off the fucking. He can't be out, he can't be on the street. That's it. December 23rd, 1996. Arrested again. Again. Think of how many opportunities to pull a rug out from this asshole. There are. This is arrested for stealing a cell phone from a car at the Montgomery Mall.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Those don't work when you take them away, right, dude.

[James Petregallo]

No, I mean 96. 96. You could probably have sold it. They were like expensive in 96. Yeah. A witness told police he heard glass breaking. So this isn't just an open window. When he saw it in there and he grabbed it. He broke a window for it and saw a man reach into the station wagon, take out two bags and drive away in another car. The witness wrote down the plate number. Police stopped the car. There he is with all the stuff. They let him out on bail again.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Is it overcrowding? Is that not wanting to just.

[James Petregallo]

He must just be a real charmer when he gets in the. In the office because I don't know.

[Jimmy Wissman]

We didn't really consider how dangerous people really were.

[James Petregallo]

I think we did. I think it was over paranoid in the 90s. They were too busy breaking teenagers balls in the 90s for fucking around. Yeah, yeah, that's really what it was. We were not public enemy number one. But this guy, you let him go. Oh, if you're 17, you do something. Lock him up for years. But this guy, you know, it's fine. Ridiculous. As a kid with weed. My God, put him away.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Kid's got a skateboard, man, you know, he's up to no good.

[James Petregallo]

And Weed. Get the cuffs out. So Nevada officials were told in January of these two arrests, and they issued a detainer warrant. Gee, it was about time. That meant any police who picked Bomar up should hold him to face a Nevada parole board violation. They actually file that that month. Also, Arthur stopped contacting his Pennsylvania parole officer and his name was entered into the NCIC computer as having absconded from parole. Not good. So February 26, 1997, a warrant is issued for his arrest after he fails to meet with his parole supervisor. Okay. The problem is though, when you're arrested for. Not when you're a warrants issued for not checking in with your supervisor, it's known as a technical violation. Meaning in it. It's not in and of itself criminal. Yeah, but it's just a violation of parole conditions. Yeah, it's a little hack on the wrist. It's not a flagrant. You know what I mean?

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's a free throw in the ball back. That's all.

[James Petregallo]

That's it. So the parole board then has the option of letting it go, sending the offender back to jail for a brief time as punishment for the violation or forcing him to serve the remainder of his sentence, which is life in prison.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Right.

[James Petregallo]

So anyway, back into the Amy. This brings us back into Amy's investigation and the Maria woman as well, whose car was taken when she was missing. And that's whose car she had. That's also interesting here. So they have to prove his involvement. How do you prove his involvement? Yeah, well, this is from a police affidavit here, quote, Joyce Bomar, Arthur Bomar's wife, related that Bomar left her presence early in the morning of June 19, 1996. She further related that she knew Bomar to be familiar with the blue route. That's the road there, that she was. That the car was found on and that he told her that he not only drove on the blue route, but that had, on occasion, slept on the side of the road on that highway. Additionally, Mrs. Bomar told investigators that after the morning hours of June 19, 1996, the first time she spoke with Arthur was in the evening hours of June 20th or the 21st after the murder. When she spoke with Arthur on that occasion, he told her he had injured his hands and needed bandages, which you would need, probably, after all that fighting and cutting and everything else. Here's another woman he dated. Quote, police interviewed a young woman who was dating Arthur Bomar at the time of the murder, Amy's murder. She further stated that Mr. Bomar told her that night that he was going to Smokey Joe's to meet some friends. So now that she just placed him going to the Smokey Joes. So then his fiance, Mary Rumer here. I just love that a married man has a fiance. That's just hilarious to me. So fucking funny. So 7-10-97, two Pennsylvania Police troopers meet with his girlfriend, Mary. And Mary tells the troopers, Mary Rumer, that he had confessed to her that he murdered Amy Willard. Oh, yeah. She told police that Arthur related the following events to her. That Arthur observed Amy leaving the bar, getting into her car and starting to drive away. He followed in his own car. Then he stopped her car on Interstate 476 and flashed a fake police badge.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh, my God.

[James Petregallo]

That's what got her out of the car. When Amy asked why she was being stopped, that's when Arthur told her that she was swerving on the road. Amy became angry. This is bullshit. She said, I wasn't swerving, so that's pretty funny. She knows I'm not drunk. I know what I drank. And Amy has balls, so she became angry. At which point Arthur punched her and knocked her unconscious. That's what started this. That's what started this. After placing Amy in the car, Arthur told Mary that he drove to an abandoned building, took the victim's clothes, placed them in a trash bag and threw them away. He then hit her in a. This place is in Chester, by the way. That's why Chester's in the. The town. That he hit her in the head with a hard object and killed her. And also even admitted raping her to marry. You tell your fiance that you're a rapist, murderer, you're a serial killer, essentially, is what you tell her. I got an MO Is what you tell her. And here it is.

[Jimmy Wissman]

What did she say?

[James Petregallo]

She said, okay. I mean, there's Nothing. Yeah. She also told troopers that he had shown her the location on i476 where Amy Willard's car was abandoned, as well as the vacant lot where her body was recovered. He gave. Took her on a murder. Yeah, little murder tour, that's all. Took her in a little bus. They had bagged lunches. Also, the night that Amy's body was found, he was stopped a few blocks from the lot to question him about an unrelated rape.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Unrelated?

[James Petregallo]

Unrelated. And then let him go. Think about how many pieces of identification and little trinkets he's got of these women.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Trophies.

[James Petregallo]

How much is he doing, man? So they need to figure out what's going on and they need DNA out of this guy. That's what this is going to be here. So they found that his 93 Ford Escort that he was driving at the time Amy disappeared had been involved in an accident. That's why he wasn't driving it anymore. He abandoned it. And it was. He was driving this Honda that he apparently stole from this. The cabinos woman. Okay. They track the Escort down to a towing company that was the around the night of the accident and said. They said they still had the car. He never picked it up. Years later, four fucking years later, that's how useless or not. Four years, like two years later, a Ford Escort. Yeah, they set it on fire. It's a fucking old Ford Escort. It's been an accident. The first thing that came to the attention of the investigators when they went to look at this car was the tires. Firestone 440. 13 inches, 13s 13s. And the only car that could have that is a 63 Pontiac Tempest. Sorry. So the police seized and removed the following articles from the car. The front left tire of the vehicle. A Firestone FR440P17570R13. The oil pan from the undercarriage of the vehicle. Do you know why?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Why?

[James Petregallo]

It matches up with her burn perfectly. He ran her over. Yep, he fucking ran her over. That's where those other injuries came from.

[Jimmy Wissman]

And then sat on her for a minute while it burned her.

[James Petregallo]

Yep. That contained, by the way, also the right front door panel, which contains several brownish spots. Later, testing positive for blood.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Tire taken was consistent with the tread design, size, wear pattern and tire impressions taken from the area where the car was found.

[Jimmy Wissman]

And it's just sitting there in an impound lot?

[James Petregallo]

Yep. Just the key to it all was sitting in a lot.

[Jimmy Wissman]

God.

[James Petregallo]

Covered in dust and dirt with no one looking twice at it for a year. Over a year. The Repeating cross rectangle shape features. The vertical lines and the machined edge present on the oil pan taken from this car match the pattern of injury perfectly to the right side of Andy's body as well. Horrifying. Then the DNA comes in. They execute a search warrant for samples of his blood. DNA testing of the blood samples established that it is a perfect match. Matched the DNA profile of the male fraction developed from vaginal swabs taken from Amy. There was a 1 in 500 million chance that it's somebody else. So 1 in 500 million is the odds on this. One slams up pretty good. Pretty good. I would say almost two Americas probably pretty good. So pretty there's only two people. There'd be a person. Shit, less than two, it'd be 1,500 million. So half a person in America basically has that blood and it's this asshole. Yeah, so they said. Also the DNA testing of the blood stains on the door panel indicated that Amy was a contributor to those stains as well. So she was in the car, he was with her. They also found blood behind the door panel. So she was on it and behind it. And that also is a perfect match to Amy's blood as well.

[Jimmy Wissman]

So how the fuck do you get it back there?

[James Petregallo]

She, sir, I would assume the window. And then it rolls down the window and gets behind it that way. I would imagine that's probably a way.

[Jimmy Wissman]

The felt is bad.

[James Petregallo]

Yep, the felt bad. Or there's enough blood where the felt is soaked and it keeps going gross. So anyway, they say that the. Because of the degree of grease and dirt deposit on Ms. Willard's body as well as ashy substances found there and the unusual pattern marks on her body displayed an examination of the undercarriage of the escort was performed. And that's when they noted that the oil pan lines up perfectly as well. And he's familiar with the neighborhood because he has an aunt and a friend in the 16th street and Indiana Avenue area and was a frequent patron of the nearby bar called the Scorpion. Oh yeah. So he hangs out in that neighborhood. So he knows that neighborhood. He would know where a vacant lot would be. Yeah, so yeah, they. They lay out the theory that they think that he followed her just like he said he followed her, crashed into her car, got out, struck her with a tire iron which left some of the blood on the guardrail of the highway, then dragged her to his car, put her in the front seat. And that's. That's about that. And all that anyone can say for sure is that he dumped the body sometime before 4pm on June 20, because that's when kids were present there. So. And they didn't see anybody dumping a fucking body. So that's wild, man. That's crazy. So the arrest or the figuring this out was, you know, for kind of a mixed blessing for Amy's family. They're like, yeah, that's great and everything, but she's still dead.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

And these people, by the way, I really like these people. The Willards like, especially. You hear more from mom, and mom is a really interesting lady who seems to really has a good head on her shoulders, basically. She said that she hasn't had. They talked to her. She said she has not had time to form an opinion about whether this guy's guilty or not. She said, all I keep thinking is, Amy, you must have been so scared and I wasn't there to protect you. That's horrifying for a parent to feel like. And that's her ex husband, though. Paul says he has no doubts about this whatsoever. He said, I had a gut feeling all along. He said, that's it. I guess that was this guy. I don't know. So the Official arrest is June 5, 1997. Cause you remember they were looking for him this whole time.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah. Right.

[James Petregallo]

They find him here. He's arrested on an outstanding warrant for violating his parole on everything else. Now, he made various false statements to law enforcement during the course of this, including a false alibi. He told investigators he was at a birthday gathering for his stepson on the night of June 19, 1996, along with his wife, Joyce. Yeah, so, you know, and his stepdaughter and several others. Tons of people there, however, they actually. His stepdaughter and his wife and everybody else he claims to be with all say that that's not true and that he wasn't there for that. They said that while on June 19, while at the birthday party, Joyce said there was no. Or there was no gathering on June. His birthday is June 19th. But they didn't have a party for him that night. So that's not true. They said that they both denied being present with him at any birthday gathering on June 19. The stepdaughter and the ex wife. Now, his response is, when they talk to him, he's the DNA out the ass. Yeah. His response to the press is, quote, I'm being framed. I'm being framed because I'm black. I need a good lawyer. That's what he said. Then he starts going crazy in jail. Okay, okay.

[Jimmy Wissman]

But he's shot people before.

[James Petregallo]

Oh, he's murdered someone. Tried to. He's done all. All sorts of horrible shit. I mean, just that thing with Teresa in the parking lot was crazy enough to never want to be near a person like that. Never mind all the rest of the shit.

[Jimmy Wissman]

He's been framed.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, he's been framed. That was only because he didn't have a gun. He was doing that shit. Otherwise he would have shot these people. So he ends up being in jail, and that's for the burglary and all that shit that he got, you know, they picked him up on when he knocked on or rang that lady's doorbell. So he was cited in jail for disobeying an order on his first day in jail, which is hard to do in a few short months. He racked up eight misconduct citations, causing him to tack an extra 330 days onto his burglary sentence, which we're gonna get in a second here. Some of the citations were for threatening prison staffers. He would also yell and scream and bang his head against the wall. Yeah. From the court documents, it says counsel was aware of the behaviors documented in the records of Bomar's pre trial. Having heard from prison staff that Bomar was, quote, disruptive, banging his head against the wall and ranting and raving. And having received a copy of Bomar's prison records in response to a subpoena. When he confronted Bomar about his conduct, however, Arthur told his counsel he was just playing with the guards for entertainment. It was just fun to get. That's the type of person who is a problem. Yeah, it's fun to get misconduct citations while in prison. That's a problem.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Person willing to lengthen my sentence. Just for fun. Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Playing. Just for playing. So July 10, 1997 is when Mary came forward and said that he confessed to her and told her all about it. Then it gets worse. For Donald or for Arthur, that's because his ex brother in law, David o' Donnell, Joyce's brother, he was incarcerated in federal prison for unrelated offenses. He had like 12 bank robberies or something that he did. Yeah. Shitload of bank robberies. Wow. He met with law enforcement officials to offer his assistance in the investigation. He said, I know Arthur. I'll get any information I can out of him. So they said, sure. And they transferred him to the Montgomery County Correctional Facility where Arthur was being held. So he was placed in the same cell block with him for approximately two weeks in July of 97. On July 17 97, while Arthur was in his brother in law's cell Here Arthur told him, quote, if I had disposed of the problem of the body, there would be no problem. Then said, no body, no grand jury indictment. Which is a.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It's not bad.

[James Petregallo]

It's not bad. I mean, it's not nobody, no crime. But no crime, no grand jury indictment, it's all the same thing. It all comes back to that. So an actual nobody, no crime, he said, but in a much more legalistic way. In addition, Arthur stated that, quote, if everyone does what I tell them, I'll be all right. Give him an alibi and all that kind of shit. Later in that day, his brother in law was in Arthur's cell. And Arthur said, I grabbed the bitch. And she said, please don't do this. He then said that he told her, I'll do whatever the fuck I want. Just shut up. To which she replied, just don't kill me, I'll do anything. All fair on her part. Then Arthur told his brother in law at that point, quote, we did whatever we wanted with her. She did whatever we told. He's alone, by the way. There's nobody with him. We is now.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Me, him and his head.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, that's insane. Does he think of his penis as a separate entity or something? Because this is fucking creepy. It gets worse. We did whatever we wanted with her, she did whatever we told. And then when we were done, I almost took her head off and we crammed a tree branch up her cunt.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh my God.

[James Petregallo]

That's what he told this guy.

[Jimmy Wissman]

We meanwhile. And he makes it sound like it was consensual because. Because he told her to, but she was already threatening. Very injured.

[James Petregallo]

Very injured. And bargaining for her very life.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Petregallo]

And he's like, yeah, you know, it was like that turned into a date for him at that point. Like, he's a fucking monster. This is horrifying. And we know by the way, unless the cops told him this, which they honest, they say they didn't, they. The tree branch thing was not publicly reported at all. At this point, the only people that knew about the tree branch were the homicide detectives, the people who found her, her and fucking. And whoever killed her. That's it. No one else knew. So for this guy to get that information was a big fucking deal. It was. The police neither disclosed this detail toward it to this guy or showed him photographs of the bodies. So this guy had no way of knowing that otherwise. Another inmate, Quincy Jamal Williams, is also incarcerated with Arthur. Also reported to police unprompted that Arthur confessed to murdering the victim to him. And basically Said the exact same words. He even said, no body, no grand jury indictment.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Unbelievable.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. So a few weeks later, Arthur tries to kill himself in prison.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh, really?

[James Petregallo]

God damn it. Why? If only he wasn't such a failure. If only he wasn't such a failure. Because this is a guy you walk in and go, oh, well, take him down, throw him in a hole in the fucking thing and move on. Who cares? Fuck this guy. You know what I mean?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Piece of shit for the mom. I'd really love him to at least be convicted before he pulls that shit.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, they know he did it. I don't think. I wouldn't care once I know who did it. There's DNA and everything.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I'm.

[James Petregallo]

Fucking kill yourself, please. Drown yourself in the toilet, in your cell, for all I give a shit. I don't care how you do it. That'd be a great way. That's depressing after someone else took a shit in there. I'd like to know that. So after hearing about this, his counsel requests for a competency examination.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Okay. Now, September 9th, 1997, he's going to plead guilty to burglary and theft charges, and he's gonna get. You, sir, may fuck off. Three to seven years in state prison for that. Okay. His lawyer says this, and this is wild, because they're waiting to charge him with the murder because they had him on the burglary. Right now he's got all his outstanding charges resolved. He adamantly denies any involvement with any other cases here. And also, Arthur indicated that he's anxious to return to Nevada, where he faces additional jail time because of his burglary conviction in Pennsylvania. So, yeah, he could receive a sentence in Nevada anywhere up to life without parole, they said for that. Now, there's lingering questions, though, here. Number one, where are the rest of her clothes? Yeah, that's a problem they can't figure out at that point. Where's her clothes? Only her underwear and shoes were recovered, and they were placed there on purpose. So he said he threw them out. So presumably in a landfill at this point, nobody knows. Also, they were saying at the time they didn't know exactly where he took her. Where's that third location? They know the start and the end, but where's the middle here? They said also most of the blood was missing from her body, blood that could not be accounted for at either crime scene. So that's where she lost most of that at that, you know, at the number two location there that they don't know about yet. And they mentioned nothing about Blood being found in the car in the affidavit. And the sources say it's microscopic samples. Well, that doesn't matter. Any samples. Guess who? None of her blood's in my car.

[Jimmy Wissman]

She shouldn't be bleeding in his car at all.

[James Petregallo]

No, that's. They don't know each other. Why is she bleeding? And that's what I'm saying. Any murder case, I can go, their blood's not in my car. I know that for a fact. So they also said, where is the murder weapon? It can't be the tire iron that was found near the car because more blows were inflicted later.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Right?

[James Petregallo]

So it has to be something else later. They don't know. They do know that no fibers or hairs were found on the tire iron, only blood. And who knows why that is. But either way there's got to be another weapon. It can't be that. And can they trace the greasy and ash like substances found on her body to Arthur as well? Also they said how did he. You know, because at this point, based on not what he said, they don't know how he would get her out of the car and all that kind of thing. So that's what they're worried about. So the evidence, obviously you got your forensic evidence here linking him expert and tire tracks are linking him with the tires impression taken from the site there. There's also pattern injuries that match up perfectly to his oil pan. That's a thing here. It matches a repeating pattern of rectangle with crosses in it. Vertical lines and machined edges match the features of the pattern injury on the right side of her thorax. And opined that the oil pan caused the injury. DNA evidence. Clearly they said there's that. And they said it's 1 in 800 million. 1 in 500 million for the black population. The profile's 1 in 1.6 billion for white people. 1 in 500 million for black people, 1 in 800 million Hispanic people. So I don't understand why he ran her over. It's you, chief. It makes no sense. None. No sense. And he must have been over her for a second for the pattern to get on her. You know what I mean?

[Jimmy Wissman]

So much to hurt.

[James Petregallo]

This poor woman must maybe got stuck on her. Maybe Ford fucking Escort.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah, it's low.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, it's low. Those are shit boxes too. It would like if he ran and got stuck on her like the back wheels would have came off the ground. It's a little shit box. You put a fucking penny in the back and it goes. So another expert in DNA analysis said that all the car stains are hers too. So they said hers though, because they're smaller samples, it's less. It's not like 1 in 500 million for her. The fact that her profile is consistent with the blood stains was only approximately 1 in 12 people for white people. So that's a problem a little bit. But the whole, all the rest of it really brings it together.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah, yeah. One in 12. One in 12 people can't have one in that many of him.

[James Petregallo]

No, no, that's what I mean. That's not possible. Maria Cabuenos, the missing woman whose car was found in his possession here. She was a 25 year old woman, a native of the Philippines, who disappeared on March 16, 1997 when she left the 1 Otta park home she shared with her two brothers for a half day shift as a lab technician with the smith, Klein Beecham Co. In Montgomery County. She's one of 11 siblings and was expected to be at her sister's house for Sunday lunch. They said that she was the kind of person who would call if she was going to be late. They said her sister Donna figured maybe she went shopping, but it wasn't normal for her to do that without asking anyone else if they wanted to go. She's very enmeshed with her family. All these siblings, they all come from a foreign country and hang out together. So if she's going out, she's asking one of her sisters to go. The day before she disappeared, Maria drove their parents to the airport for a trip to the Philippines. For two weeks, the siblings refused to tell the couple that Maria was missing because they were over there. They said her mother has a heart condition and they feared that she'd die over there. So. Wow, that is crazy. So the car belonging to her was found with him here also. They were connect. They connected Arthur and her through a series of events that unfolded after her disappearance. She was reported missing when she failed to show up for her overnight shift at the. At the place she worked. Okay, the lab. And when they found him with her vehicle, he claimed to have purchased the vehicle from a stranger in Philadelphia. The Honda that he was found with when he was arrested. But inside the car, they found blood stains that match her DNA, which doesn't necessarily. People bleed in her car. But there's another problem. When they search Arthur's home, his trailer, they find her watch. Oh, so he said, I found it in the car. Yeah, that's what he said. But I don't know if you got a dead woman's Fucking car and her watch and no bill of sale. And that's with her name on it. You're in a lot of fucking trouble. I think at that point. They also found a pistol, several pairs of underwear, and a blood stain in the car as well. Okay, so this is. This is fucking real.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I've never sold a car and left my undies in it.

[James Petregallo]

It's ridiculous. Yeah, no, I Especially multiple pairs. Yeah, I left like my one. My Monday through Thursday on in there. Damn it.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I got a couple emergency pairs in the back.

[James Petregallo]

You never know.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Just in case sometimes.

[James Petregallo]

You never know.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I'm 44. I can't trust a fart no more.

[James Petregallo]

Nope, you can't. You gotta just hope for a fart and pray for. Pray for a fart and plan for shit, if you know what I'm saying. Right? That's how the old saying goes, I believe. Pray for farts, plan for shits, and.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Never let those women meet.

[James Petregallo]

My pastor told me that when I was just a wee boy. Little tiny feller there. They also said, by the way, one of his girlfriends said that he had the trunk carpet replaced in his car. Arthur did.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That's common.

[James Petregallo]

And I'm taking unusual steps to clean the vehicle. Actions that obviously raise suspicions as well. So it's fucking interesting. Now, Maria's murder became. Obviously, they think he did it, but they don't have enough to charge him with it because people bleed in their cars and they can't prove. Because she's not alive. They can't prove he didn't buy it from someone and maybe someone who stole it from her, who knows? And the watch could have been in the car, so they can't. Connected, even though it fits his pattern. Nah, to a T. Couldn't be better. So very interesting. And I guess he's not gonna be charged. So the police say that he would use the alias Peter Love. And one of the cops, this is a criminal analyst, said the bottom line is that he saw himself in grandiose terms sexually. And when he was frustrated, when other women, the ones he preferred, the young collegiate types, didn't see him in the same light, when rejection comes, that violence is justified to him. Oh, yeah, because he's getting older now and it's harder to. Every year that passes, no matter how much game you have, it gets harder and harder to pick up college chicks. That's true. That's the thing. That's the thing with him. Before he could talk him into it. Yeah. Yes, exactly. I would think, you know, the older you get, the less they would want you, I would imagine, unless you're very wealthy or coach North Carolina football or something. I don't know.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Should be the less you want it to get.

[James Petregallo]

The less you want. Exactly. But I mean, even if you want it, it really doesn't matter because they don't fucking want you at that point.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Because that's rape.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, that's creepy as fuck. So he's going to plead not guilty to Amy's murder.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Okay.

[James Petregallo]

Here. And they're not going to charge him with the cab Buenos murder at all. So they finally, after all this, right before his trial, they find Maria's body. Yeah, they find she was dead. Her body was found in the trunk of a burned out car.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Where.

[James Petregallo]

And she was murdered in Philly. And they said there was no definitive way of proving that he murdered her because of the lack of physical evidence, especially with a burned out car. But they know that he did it. Basically, it's like. Give me a fucking break. No other suspects ever emerged in her murder either. Just him. I think him having her car is pretty much the. That's the key. So they're gonna try and see if he's competent here. A psychiatrist examines him and performed an examination with defense counsel and a psychiatrist retained by the state present as well. They were not. This doctor was not provided any records to review. Defense counsel spoke with him shortly before the examination and advised him of the concerns that prompted being here. Suicide attempt, whatever. The doctor notes that he found no evidence of psychosis in Arthur and explained that Arthur's beliefs about his fiance and wife being raped were not, strictly speaking, delusional because he was willing to give up those beliefs based on their verbal representations that they had not been raped. Basically, he would rape his wives and girlfriends and then have them make sure to tell him that they weren't he. They weren't. They didn't rape them afterwards. That was the thing that he did here. Jesus Christ. They also observed that while Bomar mentioned he felt spirits, which he referred to as God's spirits, these feelings were more religious and spiritual than hallucinatory or delusional. More in a nebulous way. Not. I actually see him and he's standing right there and this is what he looks like. So. The report noted that although Arthur was cooperative during the interview, there were topics that he did not wish to discuss. Discuss. Deeming them not relevant. Those topics included his childhood, his family, his education, his work, his criminal history, basically his whole life before sitting before you here, which prevented the doctor from being able to do his job. Properly here. But he concludes based on what he saw, quote, in my opinion, within reasonable medical certainty, Arthur Bomar is mentally competent to proceed. He's aware of the nature of his consequence and the consequences. Consequences of the legal situation in which he finds himself. And he can work with his attorney preparing for his defense. There are times when he is resistant to working with Mr. Much. That's the attorney, and reluctant to working with him. But as he's indicated, he is able to do so when he chooses so with Mr. Bomar, in my opinion, it's more a matter of lack of willingness rather than lack of ability to work with his attorney. Clearly he is aware of the participants in the courtroom and their functions and is able to understand their role or his role within the system. So they also, the doctor noted that he's highly suspicious. Arthur is, characterized him as having paranoid personality disorder and recommended the use of stabilizing medication in the event that his suspiciousness becomes excessive and interferes with his ability to work effectively with his counsel. His attitude is also interesting, the investigators say in all the meetings, he has a real bring it on attitude. He'll admit, won't admit to jack shit, and challenges the cops to show him proof.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Come and get me.

[James Petregallo]

Come show me. Which is what innocent people do unless you're really guilty. So in one interview, though, he broke down and cried, but we don't know why. Now prosecutors offer him a deal because they're going for the death penalty.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

So they're offering him a deal where he could not get the death penalty if he revealed what happened to Maria Cabuenos. And he said, fuck yourselves. Not interested.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Kill me.

[James Petregallo]

Yep. He said, quote, I don't want no deal. I'm innocent. That's what he said in court.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Okay?

[James Petregallo]

Yep. So the prosecution here said here that they. 8:30 at night on the evening of June 19th. By the way, that's the night it happened.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

And he also got stopped the next night, too, at 11:35. This is so two days. In 20 fucking five hours or 27 hours, he got stopped twice while murdering people. That's how cool he is. In comm. A guy stopped him. A cop stopped him at 8:30pm on June 19, six blocks from where Amy's car would be found five hours later following her murder. Police sought to question him, but they couldn't find him. Then he was arrested for trying to break into that woman's apartment as three other men had emerged as suspects in the murder, including Andrew. There, authorities turned their attention away from Bomar and didn't question him because Andrew looked like a much better suspect at the time. He totally did. He looked great. So after the DNA evidence linked him to the murders, his girlfriend then told authorities that he was at Smokey Joe's and blah, blah, blah, he noticed Amy. It's believed he noticed Amy there due to the damage found in the front of his car. In the back of Amy's car. Looks like he purposely rammed her car to get her to pull over. They exchanged information, struck her with a tire iron they think that, that he had with him and was, you know, holding it up his sleeve or something. Knocked her unconscious, took her to where he raped and killed her with three blows to the head from another large object afterwards. It's believed that he ran her over with his car with the burn pattern being consistent with the oil pan as well. And yeah, it makes sense. And they also found slight damage to the Ford Escorts bumper in the front where it would have. That didn't, that didn't have anything to do with the, with the accident that it was in to end up in the junkyard. And then of course DNA testing all around. That's a big one. From the DNA, they matched the material found under her fingernails to Arthur. His DNA is under her fingernails. Hairs and fibers. Hair samples from his car matched Amy's hair. And blood found in his trunk was linked through DNA as well as they have another piece of DNA that they say there is a 1 in 5 billion chance that the semen left in Amy's body could have come from someone. One in five billion. That is more than half the world's population.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That's problems. There was only seven in the 90s.

[James Petregallo]

There might be like a Mongolian guy somewhere that shares your DNA.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That's it. Way the floor up. Everest.

[James Petregallo]

So he was busy that day. He was hauling shit up a mountain that fucking day. Yeah. The guy in Mongolia was eating a yak at that point and really couldn't have been there. And of course the tire impressions as well. The investigators say that they used, he used the bump and abduct strategy to target her deliberately causing the minor accident. Now the brother in law tested testifies here and they say, did the defendant say to you on that date in your cell if I, meaning Arthur had disposed of the body, there would be no problem? Yes. He made that statement to you? Yes. Did he also make the statement to you, quote, no body, no grand jury indictment? Yes. These conversations were in your cell that day? Yes. Were there any other conversations? Yes. I went into Arthur selling and asked him what he Meant about the first conversation earlier in the day, right there. If Arthur doesn't realize that he's working for the cops, he's an idiot. I just told you what I did so. And all I did was say, I thought you told me you weren't involved in none of this. And he just said, well, he was. He said he grabbed his. His words were, I grabbed the bitch. And she said, please don't do this. He said, I'll do whatever the fuck I want. Just shut up. She said, please don't kill me. I'll do anything. He took her. He said he took her and did whatever he wanted in a van. He used the words, we did whatever we wanted to her. She did whatever we told her. And when we were done, I almost took her head off and we crammed a tree branch up her cunt, then dumped the bitch. That was the end of the conversation. And he went and got on the phone, Holy fuck, this guy's scum of the earth. He also has some fun during trial. Several times during trial, Arthur has outbursts and makes obscene gestures to witnesses, lawyers, judges, the families, whoever, and needed to be restrained. Several times. The defense, what's their case going to be like?

[Jimmy Wissman]

No, he didn't do it. He's been framed.

[James Petregallo]

They call no witnesses, arguing that the case was based on circumstantial evidence and that the witnesses are not to be believed. It's. There's DNA of five different stripes. There's blood, there's hair, there's fucking semen. It's all over the place. Fingernails. That's four different types of DNA that they match to him to this, to everything. The car, her, him to her, him to the car, her to the car. You got to put on some kind of defense that, like, you know, they don't know how to test DNA or some shit, because that's not going to work in the defense. In the closing arguments, his lawyer told jurors that he suffered from a low iq, which he. Everybody says he's fucking sharp, he's not dumb. Severe emotional and mental disturbances and possibly even brain damage.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Maybe.

[James Petregallo]

This poor man, we don't know. By the way, he hates that shit, as we'll find out, he might be. Oh, no, no, no. Not doesn't want to be. He yells at the lawyer. You'll see. It's hilarious. So the jurors deliberate for two hours after closing arguments, then return the next day. And around 11:15am they went into the courtroom to ask the judge to define the charge of possession of an instrument. Of crime. Their question indicated that they already got past the murder and that kind of shit. So 15 minutes later, they got a verdict ready to roll, and he is found guilty as balls, I believe is the legal term they use for this. In addition to being convicted of murder, he's convicted of rape, assault, kidnapping, and abuse of a corpse. Just to line them all up nicely.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Okay?

[James Petregallo]

Yep. When he was announced to be guilty, he turned around and stuck his two middle fingers in the air toward the gallery. Double, double, double birds. Yeah. Then sentencing comes around. He gets worse. This is crazy shit when he does it. Sentencing. Before the hearing even starts, the jury's brought in and he stands up and says he wants to be sentenced to death. Okay, Sentenced me to death. He refused to wear street clothes, which he has the right to do because it makes you not look like a prisoner. And was brought into the hearing in his prison garb and said, I've been found guilty in this courtroom of something I didn't do. It doesn't make any difference how I'm dressed. His lawyer warned the client that if you have your prison shit on, it's, quote, they're more likely to view you as a criminal on the jury. And he says, everybody else has, quote, I'm not gonna make. It's not gonna make any difference. It don't make no difference if they see me in this shit or not. I'd rather they give me the death penalty anyway, like I said. So then the judge suggested. Suggested that civilian clothes would be to his benefit. And so he switched to slacks and a dress shirt after that. Smart move. Smart move. Now the proceedings resumed and the defense sought to establish two mitigating factors to keep him off death row here. One is that he was under the influence of extreme mental or emotional disturbance. And two, of any other evidence of mitigation concerning his character and record, which is a catch all mitigator. They call it just good character in general. People like him. His kids think he's a nice guy, whatever the fuck. So in an effort to do this, they call a character witness, including two ministers. They call. Oh, that he's talked to. They call his insurance agent.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Don't call my insurance agent.

[James Petregallo]

How well do you know your insurance agent?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Me? A birthday card. But it's because his computer alerts him.

[James Petregallo]

It sends him out automatically and he signs him up. Yeah, I get one, too. They don't know my fucking stupid Maria doesn't know my fucking shows up.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Come on, Paul, don't act like, yeah.

[James Petregallo]

YouTube, like once a year, if you're Buying a car, selling a car. That's when you talk to them for, like, four minutes, and you're like, thanks. Later, this person, this insurance agent, described him as very polite and very respectful. Yeah, because he's just. He's doing insurance.

[Jimmy Wissman]

He's trying to get the cheapest one. He's not gonna threaten you.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, no shit. Well, let's get the Pep Boys people in there. Maybe it's different. A woman who recounted how Arthur had recovered her children's diaper bag and her wallet and returned them intact in May of 93. That was before he went on his. That's when he was still doing nice things. One of the character witnesses, Reverend Glenn Serino, unwittingly provided information for detectives investigation into the Cabuenos killing. Though he recalled clearly the last time he saw Arthur. March 10, 1997, in his Bucks county church. That's five days before Maria disappeared. And a surprise prosecutor said it was the first information that they have to know where his whereabouts at the time. So he was in the area, which is what they were thinking. Was he back in Nevada? What was he doing? They get Arthur's brother Sonny in there. He testifies for less than a minute. He said, I don't want my brother to die. I love him very much. I'm pretty sure if it takes long enough, I'll find out who actually did this, since they haven't.

[Jimmy Wissman]

What a guy.

[James Petregallo]

Wow. Arthur's mom gets up there.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Oh, boy. Her entire thing, I guess, is in a shout. She just shouts this entire thing. Yells it. Quote, I am Arthur Bomer's mother, and Arthur Bomer didn't kill your daughter. Your murderer is going free, whoever they may be. My son did not kill your daughter. Then turns to the prosecutor and said, I would like to say to Daniel, God forbid that the cross. That the cross brought you something, brought something like you out of it. What? God forbid that the cross brought something like you out of it. And you. And to you. And turn to the investigators seated there, she said, quote, vengeance is mine, saith the Lord with your lying self. Which. That's from the Bible, I believe. Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. With your. With your lying ass, I believe that's. I think that's how it's said in the Bible. So it's not an exact quote from her, but it's close.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Should have said, I want to speak to your manager.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, this is wild. You have lied, you have cheated, and you have disgraced this court of the United States of America. America. And to the Jury, you don't do this because they're the ones decide. Don't. To the jury, you're supposed to go, you're doing a great job, well done. And to the jury, if you would have listened to the evidence, you would have not found my son guilty. You're only looking at his color.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yikes.

[James Petregallo]

Well, yeah, I'm looking at the color red. Like his blood that's all over shit and all hers is in him. I'm also looking at the color white, like semen that was found inside of her. This isn't a matter of color. There's shitloads of evidence.

[Jimmy Wissman]

There's a lot of color in this, physical evidence. And it's all bad.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, there's. Don't get me wrong, there's racism out there and people definitely get arrested for whatever, but this isn't it, man. This isn't the fucking Hill to die on here. His mother then said, he did not kill Amy Willard. He did a lot of things in his days. He ain't no angel, but he ain't killed nobody. Well, we know for a fact he shot that guy in fucking Nevada. He even admitted to it. So. Wow. She then said, listen to what I say. When you stop thinking for yourself, you are looking for another Hitler. Because that's how he took over Germany. The German people stopped listening to they selves and only listened to him. And that's why he was able to kill off all the Jews. There's so many things wrong.

[Jimmy Wissman]

They were extinct. Did you hear?

[James Petregallo]

All of them gone. Meanwhile, there's like five lawyers in the court going, what?

[Jimmy Wissman]

We're dead.

[James Petregallo]

We're dead. Now with her, which is your lion as say it. The Lord with your lion ass. Fuck that shit. Then she goes on to say, the Hitlers and the Mussolini's and the hero. He knows that's what these men are.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Wow.

[James Petregallo]

The investigators. You take my word for it, they are guilty of murder. Whoa. Then she turned to the judge and said, excuse me, your honor, I am through with this audience. Like she's a comic that went there to settle some fucking beefs. I'm through with this audience. Fuck them. And throws the mic down like they're a Tampa crowd or some shit. What the fuck?

[Jimmy Wissman]

This isn't the Apollo. Ma' am, calm down.

[James Petregallo]

Wow. I'm through with this audience. That is fucking crazy. That's a lot. That is. Yeah, she did the whole Bernie Mac def jam set right there. Eyes popping. I ain't scared of you.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Split out, whole room get dark.

[James Petregallo]

Whole room. So then more Defense witnesses here, a forensic psychologist, Gerald Cook, was on the stand. And this is when he lost his shit. Arthur did not like this. Cook told the jury that tests he conducted indicate Arthur has a low iq, a borderline personality disorder, and this is great. May have suffered organic brain damage as well, and called him compulsive, self centered, confused about love, sex and ex and aggression. Under cross examination, he further testified that Arthur was impulsive with low self esteem, poor self control. Think about if someone has a problem with their ego and everything like that. Someone just called you dumb, crazy, brain damaged, self centered, selfish, stupid about love, sex and aggression and also can't control yourself, don't feel very good about yourself and all this shit. Yeah. Then referred to the murder conviction in 78. And so he was asked, this is the prosecutor asked, can you predict how he will react if he's confronted with the same stimuli that he faced when he murdered people in 1978 and 1996? And that's when Arthur blew up and got up and was like, fuck this shit. He said, quote, look, bastard. He started out with, look bastard, which I love. Look, bastard, stop making me a hoe. Which I don't know if that's ever been screamed during a murder trial before. Stop making me a hoe. Look, you want to know how I'm going to act? You want to know how I'm going to act, you stupid motherfucker? That's how I'm going to act. That's what he said, like this, if I had a weapon, I'd kill you. His lawyer said, be quiet, be quiet. Shut up, you're fucking this up. So he continues in very angry form, says, how the fuck would you act? You've been charged and found guilty of some shit you didn't do. I'm getting tired of you fucking with me. That's how I'm acting. I'm getting tired of these insults.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Stop calling me a dummy.

[James Petregallo]

Stop call. So the prosecutor said, I have no more questions of this witness. Arthur answered my question. This is how he reacts when he's confronted even in court, when everything on earth, including somebody in a suit is telling him to shut the fuck up, he still can't shut the fuck up.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Imagine jury his hair trigger and how violent he gets just on one baby insult about saying he's mentally incompetent and doesn't know anything about sex.

[James Petregallo]

Fucking crazy. Then they asked him, would you like to say anything else? And he said, yeah, I was only convicted because I'm black.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah, I got more.

[James Petregallo]

That's what he said, I got more. Then, by the way, Amy's mother is one subpoenaed witness who does not testify because she is vocal in her opposition to the death penalty. And basically, the prosecution doesn't want her to go up there and say, look, I love my daughter, but I would rather you not kill him based on that. So they. They quash her subpoena and don't make her come because she's a really nice. I mean, anybody who's not immediately hair trigger, like, kill that motherfucker and actually sticks to their beliefs, that's a pretty good person. Yeah, a really good person. Don't worry about that shit either. That's the other thing, too. So the jury comes back in, glowering at him, according to this newspaper article, which is a bad sign, by the way. Bad sign. And they say to him, you, sir, may fuck off. Death penalty.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh.

[James Petregallo]

I mean, even if they weren't gonna do it, he talked himself into it. I mean, good God, the only time I've ever seen anyone do worse in the mitigating phase is Sarah Boone literally went up there and insulted the victim. And that letter was amazing. That's the only way you could do it any worse is if you did that. That was crazy. Okay, Then after the jury read it, then Arthur asked to address the courtroom again. The judge refused. So he turns around. Amy's mother, Gail is sitting right there. He flips her both birds and tells her to go fuck herself.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh, my God.

[James Petregallo]

Then threatened to kill her and her two other alive children. I'll kill the ones you got left. That's what he said, while insisting he didn't kill Amy, by the way, but I'll kill the rest of you. Um. Wow. The prosecutor says, quote, this last gesture demonstrates what a violent, vile, filthy, disgusting human being Arthur Bomer is. I think that sums it up real well. Wow. Amy said. Amy's mom afterwards said she was satisfied. She said 12 people deliberated very, very hard, and they made a decision none of us had to make. She said she's an anti, very outspoken death penalty opponent. She said, there will never be closure. Amy's gone, and we miss her very, very much. He doesn't really matter at this point. So in 2000, they're trying to get a law passed called Amy's Law. So the United States Congress attempted to pass the law. It ended up failing in the Senate at that time. But then on October 28, 2000. Now, this is right before the 2000 election, the very end of Clinton's term. Here, Clinton signs Amy's Law into law. So it's designed to keep violent criminals in prison by providing states incentives to adopt stricter sentencing laws and hold states financially accountable if prisoners early release leads to violence against someone in another state. It's just what you wanted. Now by 2000, they're still talking about Maria Cabuenos murder because they have no anything on it. They said Arthur Bomer remains a suspect, but no one has been charged. So they said that, you know, she died from a blow to the head. Investigators couldn't determine whether she'd been sexually assaulted or even killed somewhere. Where else other than where her body was found because it was burned. So yeah, they told, they said they don't know what they're going to do here. The attorney here, district attorney said Bomer was under suspicion. I don't think that was a secret. I'm not going to answer whether there are other suspects. He's still the target. So he goes to death row at this point in 2003. Remember Andrew Kobach, by the way?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

Okay.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Little tow truck driving son of a broker.

[James Petregallo]

Well, he's got some issues in Florida.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Is that right?

[James Petregallo]

He's arrested for driving a vehicle equipped with police like features Again, again, later that year he faced charges related to sexual battery and other offenses involving a mentally disabled woman.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh, Jesus.

[James Petregallo]

And he pled guilty to certain charges and got probation. Dude. Yeah. So this is all of these fucking creeps were in the same area, creeping around, looking ahead. That's crazy. 2003, Arthur appeals here. One is Brady violations. He claims that the Commonwealth failed to disclose deals with jailhouse informants. His brother in law and Quincy Jamal Williams, his brother in law, obviously testified to all the horrible things there. And they said even if, the court said, even if such agreement, an agreement did exist, any Brady violation did not prejudice the pellet in light of the extensive DNA and circumstantial evidence against him. Basically they could have done everything wrong. And that DNA is so locked solid and circumstantial to back it up. It's just ridiculous. They would have to. Unless the guy who ran the DNA said I fucking purposely criminally exchanged it with another DNA or something. He's got it. He's going.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I was so happy that it came back a hit. I came all over it.

[James Petregallo]

I came all over it. It's me on there. They said that we need to reach definitive conclusion as to whether or not an agreement existed. This is the, the court saying this though, because even if such an agreement did exist, any Brady violation in this regard didn't prejudice him. But they said that, you know, they'd like to know if that's the things they're doing here. They also said in a direct examination the brother in law admitted in court that he had a plea agreement with federal prosecutors and that his cooperation was brought to the federal judge's attention during his sentencing and he was going to get a lighter sentence because of that. So they go, they said that in court, so that's not, it's out in the open, it's fine. Also now he's asserting that he's incompetent to stand trial due to mental illness.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Oh, now he, now he is.

[James Petregallo]

Now he's crazy.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah, now that it benefits him.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah, now that it benefits him, he's all crazy. So they said. However, three evaluations close to trial date found him competent. He also says ineffective assistance of counsel during the penalty phase. They didn't tackle me while I was screaming at people. Nobody tased me. Um, that's fucking wild. DNA evidence. Also challenging the DNA match evidence, claiming it was misleading and improperly presented. The court says there's no merit to this claim. Appellate counsel was not ineffective for raising, failing to raise this meritless claim. He also says due process because a court order was misused to extract him from prison for questioning. Also, he's got a lot of problems with his brother in law. He's filing all sorts of shit based on that. And you know, saying all that. He also said at one point Bomar expressed concern about the grand jury saying if I did with that bitch what I did with the last one, there would have been no problem. Then he said, no body, no grand jury indictment. The trial did not allow that first part. If I did with that, with the bitch what I did with the last one, there'd be no problem. Because they said that is a crime they're not even accusing him of in court because they don't even know what it is. It just shows he's a serial killer. That's what it shows.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Right? It shows that he's got a pattern.

[James Petregallo]

Yeah. So they rule that basically they said even if any evidentiary or procedural irregularities existed, the overwhelming physical, testimonial and forensic evidence against him, including DNA confessions, crime scene links, meant there's no reasonable possibility that the verdict or sentence would have changed. And so he remained on death row. The Supreme Court upheld his death sentence in 2003, but ordered a lower court to re sentence him on convictions of rape, kidnapping and abuse of a corpse. Doesn't affect the death sentence in 2004. I know the governor signed his death warrant, but the execution here is stayed by a federal judge. Oh yes, it stayed there and it keeps going. So 2014, death sentence upheld again. Keeps getting upheld in prison currently. Here he is prisoner inmate number DK1 677, by the way. And he is at the Somerset location.

[Jimmy Wissman]

They're not put to death still there.

[James Petregallo]

Not put to death at all. That's as of May 27, 2025 at 4:00am that's where he was, as it tells you. That's, you know, because you look at it when you look it up. So now Amy here, they do a nice thing for her. They establish a national award based in her honor by US Lacrosse. I'll fill the Lacrosse award for her. And additionally, roadside memorials mark the site where her car was found, serving as a remembrance. And also the. The mother was do. Gail was doing something in the neighborhood she was found in as well. She was doing like a thing, like an every year thing for her type of deal. This case, when it was still unsolved, was featured on Unsolved Mysteries.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Really.

[James Petregallo]

And then it was on Cold Case Files after it was solved. And then it was on the New Detective and also featured on the Forensic Files. So once you've been on Cold Case Files and the Forensic Files, just go ahead and put your appeals in a drawer because you're done.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I don't think you're done in the appeals.

[James Petregallo]

It's not happening there. So there you go. There is Chester, Pennsylvania. Fucked up story. That is a fucked up story.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Unbelievable. I can't believe that's not the fucking.

[James Petregallo]

That's crazy.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Household name Bomar.

[James Petregallo]

That's. Yeah, that's what I mean. We don't know how many people he killed, but we know, we know he killed at least two for sure. About 98% he killed Buenos. So we know there's three. And then he said the last one and that was one that was before Amy. So that's. I mean we're talking about decades long guy.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah.

[James Petregallo]

He could have disappeared women forever. Yeah, we don't know. This is scary shit.

[Jimmy Wissman]

And Rand from Vegas, who knows how.

[James Petregallo]

Many he did out there in the desert. It's terrifying. So anyway, keep your eyes out, look out for people like that and definitely also go to whatever app you're on and give us five stars. It helps a lot. Really does. If you like the show, that's a great way to help out. The show only takes 30 seconds and it really, really helps us out way more than 30 seconds worth. So thank you for doing that. Shut upandgivemerder.com is the website that is where you're gonna get all of number one merchandise and also tickets for live shows starting in September. We're back on the road pretty, pretty consistently there through the end of the year. Get your tickets for Seattle. It's the day after Portland, which is sold out. Get your tickets for free. Philly, dc, those are getting close too. I think there's some left in Irvine, maybe a couple in San Diego. Get all your tickets right now because we're pretty damn excited to come see you guys out there. So shut up and give me murder.com you definitely also want to follow on social media. We are Smalltown Murder on Instagram, Smalltown Pod on Facebook. Definitely get Patreon. My God, if there's one thing we could recommend to you, it's Patreon. Not just because we get the money, but because it's goddamn worth it. We really throw down on Patreon. Anybody, $5 a month or above, you're going to get way more than $5 worth. You're going to get hundreds and hundreds of episodes of bonus shit that you've never heard before immediately to binge on subscription. Then you get new ones every other week. One Crime in Sports, one Small Town Murder. And we just give it to you all. Just whatever we put out, you get. This week, what we're going to talk about is going to be the. There's this weird baseball league where they play by 1864 rules with 18, 1964 equipment. Like the beginning of baseball. It's so weird. And then, by the way, the next one after that will be the Liver King we're going to talk about. So keep an eye out for that then for Small Town Murder. Here for the bonus episode, we are going to talk about Sherry Papini and this new documentary that come that came out. You think you know all about Papini. Well, she's going to tell you you don't.

[Jimmy Wissman]

It is exhausting to watch that documentary. Every time they see Panini, I go, panini, Panini.

[James Petregallo]

I love that they replayed that clip, by the way. Her in the background Panini. And then you're fucking it up.

[Jimmy Wissman]

And then he goes, I love it. Papini Peony.

[James Petregallo]

I don't fucking know.

[Jimmy Wissman]

He'd much rather call her Panini too.

[James Petregallo]

So check that out. We can't wait to make fun of that and talk all about it. Who knows? Maybe she'll have something fun good to say. I know she doesn't. We Listen to it. So get in there and get that patreon.com crimeinsports and you're gonna get a shout out at the end of the show, which is right now. Jimmy, hit me with the names of the people who would never, ever be serial killers who stalk us coming out of bars to bump into our cars and murder us. Jimmy, hit me with him right now.

[Jimmy Wissman]

This Week's executive producer, Rowan8436. Peyton Meadows. Liz Vass.

[James Petregallo]

Thank you.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Happy Hour Checking in in West Memphis, Arkansas, Janice Hill and Andrew Gillen. Thank you all so much for doing what you do. You're phenomenal.

[James Petregallo]

Thank you so much.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Other producers this week are Julie Yemaker. Yemker. Y M K E R. How do you do that?

[James Petregallo]

Sounds about right.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Beamker. All right. Well, there you go. Thank you, Julie.

[James Petregallo]

Freak. Oh, Fark James is the old Arkansas license plate from back in the day. They're very nice.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Trevor Morales. Drew Patania, Jennifer Deveny. Devony Devaney. I don't know. Krista Merrick. Tricia Lynn. Derek Hasnstab. Lynn with no last name. Missy Blanchett. Sean Kreitzman, Daniel Hooft, Travis Farr, Lynette or McIrvin. Alyssa Hernandez, Tiffany Norelkis. Naraikis. Naraikis. Shelley with no last name. Taryn.

[James Petregallo]

Right. I'm gonna have some munchos. Yeah, please do your stupid opinions. Reviews that we have left over here. Yeah, these are good.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Stacy. Herb. Probably Herb. Fiona with no last name. John Shea. Kyle Bell. Lori White. Deneen. D, E, N, N. No, two N two. N one. N two E's. Deneen. That's it. Elias.

[James Petregallo]

Elias.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Elias Brannaby. Emily Cornwell. Cromwell. Cornwell. Yep. Yeah, sure is. Margaret Spear. Ryan would not know. Last name. Jenny Mo. Moravec. Moravik. Yeah, it's more of a Moravic. Piper with no last name. Della Griffin. Abby. Abby Cantrell. Zach Delaney. Hazika with no last name.

[James Petregallo]

Hezekiah.

[Jimmy Wissman]

No, Hezekiah. I swear it.

[James Petregallo]

I can't see it.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Anthony Burt. Emma Bellargion. Belarjian. Ballard Bailargian.

[James Petregallo]

Wow.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I guess as good as mine. Veronica Peters. Dixon Herbutt. James. Absolutely a real person.

[James Petregallo]

Dixon. Her butt. That's a very. Okay, that's. I like that name.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah. Cousin. His butt. Lisa Goss. Doug Flores. Carlos with no last name. Wyona. Wyona Fuller. Allison Taskey. Leanne Ter. Wilger. Till we're Megan Bell. Lauren Davis. Samantha Morelli. William Haney. Austin Baker. Scott Funches.

[James Petregallo]

Yep.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Jessica Dawson. Melissa Danker. Alex Hunkins. Bob Rowe. Not Not Rob Lowe. Bob Ross. Bob Ross or Bob Ross or that other micro. Stephanie Moore. Jax with no last name. Lucy Herwood. Brittany Nywood.

[James Petregallo]

Lucy Hiswood is that. We got to get them together with Dixon. Her butt.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Yeah. Dixon Herwood.

[James Petregallo]

My wood. His wood. Her butt. My butt. There's a lot there, man. A lot to unpack.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Brittany Nyman. Catherine Sweet. Reese with no last name. Christy Edward Steen. Amber Glenbin. Haley Garena. Adam Peabody. Or Peabody Tammy. Tammy Robert with no last name. Colleen London. Sybil Graham. Brian Finila. Finila. Heather with no last name. Racy Kune. Careful with that one. Julia Wallen. Karen Ladika. Latin Ladika. Sherry. Oh, you know, don't you know? Oh, you know, don't you?

[James Petregallo]

I don't know.

[Jimmy Wissman]

I don't know.

[James Petregallo]

I know now.

[Jimmy Wissman]

But I wish my girlfriend was hot like you. Evidently. Shayla Sad Fur. Sidorf. Shayla Sidorf. Lillian with no last name. T.J. burgess. David Jeremy. Stacy Durand. Tracy Hayden. Aaron with no last name. With an E, N, Y E, R, Y N. Let's just spell the whole thing.

[James Petregallo]

Just say. Where does that go? What letter is where?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Jamie Wyland. Robert machu. Machuc. Robert McCooch.

[James Petregallo]

Do it. Cooch. And her button dicks in it. And I am.

[Jimmy Wissman]

That's a real pervert.

[James Petregallo]

Manch.

[Jimmy Wissman]

James Perier. Perrier Wyatt Smart. J. Molter. Katie with no last name. Laura Shrua. Jessica Richards. Matt Paula Pink. Kelly Wisdom. Kendra Cap. Jackson. We He. Why he way he. Krista Snyder. Heather with no last name. Jason Castleman. Joshua Polzitski. Pulzewski. Funky Butt. Lovin James. Real Person. Jessica Andrews.

[James Petregallo]

Why not tonight?

[Jimmy Wissman]

Add her to the list in this crowd?

[James Petregallo]

Sure.

[Jimmy Wissman]

Nicole May. Christina. Shut the fuck up. Andrea Fly, flame. Flamister. Flea. Mr. Robin Duvall. Beth Shepard. Carlos Jackson. And obviously all of our filthy patrons. You dirt bags. I love you. Thank you for everything you do.

[James Petregallo]

Thank you so much everybody for all that you do for us. It means the fucking world. And we just can't thank you enough for everything. Thank you. And if you want to follow us on social media, really easy to do that. Shut up and give me murder.com drop down menus. Take everywhere you want to go. So do that and come back and keep hanging out with us. Oh my God. And until next week, everybody, it's been our pleasure. Bye. Marketing is hard. But I'll tell you a little secret. It doesn't have to be. Let me point something out. You're listening to a podcast right now and it's great. You love the host. You seek it out and download it. You listen to it while driving, working out, cooking, even going to the bathroom. Podcasts are a pretty close companion. And this is a podcast ad. Did I get your attention? You can reach great listeners like yourself with podcast advertising from Libsyn Ads. Choose from hundreds of top podcasts offering host endorsements, or run a pre produced ad like this one across thousands of shows. To reach your target audience in their favorite podcasts with Libsyn Ad, go to libsynads. Com. That's L, I B S Y N Ads. Com Today.