Face Eating Frat Boy - Tequesta, Florida

Summary

Small Town Murder: "Face Eating Frat Boy – Tequesta, Florida"

Hosts: James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman
Date: September 26, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this jaw-dropping episode, James and Jimmie head to Tequesta, Florida, to cover one of the most bizarre, gruesome, and baffling true crime cases they’ve ever encountered. The hosts break down the case of Austin Harrouff—a seemingly ordinary Florida State University student who spiraled into a psychotic break and committed an unthinkable act of violence involving double murder and cannibalism in a quiet retirement community. As always, the tragedy is presented through a blend of thorough research, empathetic perspective on the victims, and the hosts’ signature dark humor and tangents.

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Tequesta, Florida: The Setting

• (04:18) The journey begins as James introduces Tequesta, a small but upscale village in Palm Beach County with a population of just over 6,000.
• Houses are excessively expensive (median price: ~$596,000) and the area is best described as "douchey" and country club-centric.
• The town’s main event: the annual Chili Cook-Off and beer tasting, judged mostly by local news personalities, DJ's, and community figures.
  • Quote, James (07:29): “If you like to golf and think you’re better than other people, this is the place for you.”
  • Jimmie (08:16): "Cheesesteaks and tacos down your throat... they all pull up like Mad Max and shit with dust clouds behind them."
• The community is portrayed as safe, upscale, and a little dull ("Nothing really ever happens here.”), leading into the episode’s irony: something absolutely wild did happen here.

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The Victims: John and Michelle Stevens

• (13:19) John Stevens III and his wife Michelle Mishkin are introduced as a retired couple embracing Florida leisure, deeply in love, and beloved by their neighbors.
  • John: 59, retired, previously married, “ready to actually enjoy life.”
  • Michelle: 53, described as incredibly kind and happy; recently retired as well.
• Both were immersed in community life, famous for turning their garage (“the Garage Mahal”) into a social gathering spot for friends and neighbors.
• Host commentary (17:50-18:28): The "Florida garage party" culture leads to comedic riffs about the horror of neighbors dropping by uninvited.
  • James: “The garage is still my house... leave me alone until I step outside.”
  • Jimmie: "People come over and drink with me in my garage. Cars don't go in there. It's a bar."

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The Perpetrator: Austin Harrouff

Background

• (19:41-21:42) Austin Harrouff, 19 at the time, is painted as an athletic, mild-mannered FSU student from a wealthy dentist family. His parents, recently divorced, had a history of mental illness in the greater family (specifically, schizophrenia).
  • Nicknamed "Happy Boy" by family and friends for his upbeat childhood demeanor.
  • Was into bodybuilding, fitness, and started college as a biology major, switching to exercise science to become a dietitian.
  • Joined a fraternity (Alpha Delta Phi) and quickly embraced a "party hard" collegiate lifestyle.

Escalating Instability & Substance Abuse

• (24:15-39:47) The hosts detail Austin’s descent into substance abuse and mental instability using his own texts and social media posts, read for both comedic effect and shock value.
  • Chronic blackout drinking, polydrug use (weed, Adderall, LSD, meth), repeated references to not handling drugs well, and increasingly erratic journal entries.
    • Quote from Austin’s texts (32:19): “I’m fucked up. Getting drunk is so fun. Went to a bar. I was so player plastered. I was trashed. I’m gonna drink my troubles away.”
    • James: “Some people handle drugs just fine, some people don’t. Their lives fall apart. It’s just... it’s a weird thing.”
  • Hosts remark on his increasingly alarming posts, including:
    • “Why the fuck just not do what you want? Just do the craziest shit you can.” (27:10)
    • “You didn’t know I’m a psychopath.” (36:12)
    • “Sick, I did meth in some trailer park.” (34:46)
  • Despite these flags, he didn’t get into trouble, but friends noted his behavior was “too fucked up.”

The Spiral into Psychosis

• (40:09-53:06) Over the summer of 2016, Austin returns home and his behavior takes a dark turn—becoming bizarre, paranoid, and delusional:
  • Moves his bed to the garage, claiming “demon Daniel” was haunting him (41:01).
  • Tells people he has “superpowers like Jesus,” patrols the house at night, searches online for demonic possession, and seeks to contact Oprah for help (41:57-42:23).
  • Quote: “If you have a college age [child] displaying massive mental things, you gotta get them some help… he claimed he had superpowers, like Jesus.” (41:36)
  • Parents’ reaction: lock their bedroom doors but do not seek professional help (42:22).
  • Social media activity skyrockets: posts dozens of rants, bodybuilding videos, and covers where he speaks of violence, superpowers, and suicide. Notably, he self-describes as having “a psycho side and a normal side. I’ve lost my mind. Help me find it.” (44:41)

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The Night of the Attack – August 15, 2016

Lead-Up Events

• Bizarre dinner at Duffy’s restaurant:
  • Harrouff leaves the table multiple times, walks home, begins drinking vegetable oil with parmesan cheese (50:39).
  • Tense altercation with his father, after which Austin takes off on foot, armed with knives.
  • Mother calls 911 expressing concern: "He says he's immortal." (52:27)
• Wanders for hours: Strips to his boxers while walking (57:36).

The Crime

• (58:26-62:05) Fishers’ and Stevens’ Encounter:
  • John Stevens is attacked while walking his dog; Michelle Stevens is attacked in their garage.
  • Neighbor Jeff Fisher intervenes, is stabbed multiple times but survives.
  • 911 call from Fisher: “Please. A medical young man beating up a woman across the street... I ran over there. I'm bleeding profusely here at the moment.” (59:06)
• Police Arrive:
  • Deputies arrive to find Austin, in boxers, “chewing on John Stevens’ face. Observed the suspect wearing a blue shirt and a silky boxers. She pulled her gun out, ordered him to get off of the victim. He continued to bite his face and rip the flesh from the victim.” (60:26)
  • Multiple attempts to subdue him: K9 units and Tasers are ineffective, police must physically kick him repeatedly in the head to disengage him from the corpse (62:18)
  • Harrouff is screaming: “Fucking kill me. Fucking kill me. Shoot me now. I deserve to die.”
  • At one point, he stops the assault, drinks a bottle of caustic chemical solvent found in the garage, and resumes biting/eating.
    • James: “He stopped in the middle of this attack, found some kind of solvent, chemical cleaning agent in the garage and started drinking it. Just started chugging it and then went back to eating faces.” (64:33)
• Medical Examiner: John and Michelle Stevens were killed by multiple stab wounds and blunt force trauma. Harrouff also severely wounds Fisher but he survives.

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Aftermath & Investigation

Hospitalization & Toxicology

• (66:01-68:58) Harrouff is hospitalized in critical condition with severe organ damage from chemical ingestion, lapses into a coma, and then recovers.
  • In the ambulance: “I ate something bad.” “What?” “Humans.”
  • Toxicology tests reveal no drugs in his system (apart from trace THC not sufficient to explain the behavior). Bath salts and poisons ruled out.
    • James: “He did this sober. A barely a trace of THC. So from days ago… absolutely nothing. No alcohol… The only alcohol is probably from the solvent.”

Public Reaction, Media, and Legal Proceedings

• Victim’s family: John’s daughter calls Harrouff “a murderer, a monster and a coward,” hoping he survives to face full consequences.
• National media dubs him:
  • “Cannibal frat boy”
  • “Frat boy face eater”
  • James: “I’d add Happy, the fat boy, face eater to that. Happy boy, the face eater.”
• Despite the notoriety, he develops romantic relationships with fans in jail, one lasting 8 months (75:14).

Mental Health Findings and Outcome

• 2021 Psychiatric Evaluation:
  • Diagnosed as suffering from psychotic features, bipolar disorder (with acute manic episodes), and clinical lycanthropy (he believed he was part animal—at one point, “half-horse, half-immortal;” later “half-dog”).
    • James: “Wow. The state expert said he meets the criteria for legal insanity. The state expert said that (and) he's paid to never say that.” (77:02)
• Resolution:
  • Pleads Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity. Both prosecution and defense agree he was legally insane.
  • Indefinitely committed to a secure psychiatric hospital, with semi-annual and annual reviews. As of broadcast, he remains institutionalized (79:15).
• Victim’s daughter on outcome:
  • “Four words come to mind: white rich boy justice.” (77:52)
  • References father buying the murder weapon, jail calls without remorse (“those fucking people”), and the illusion of accountability.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• James (07:29): “If you like to golf and think you’re better than other people, this is the place for you.”
• Jimmie (08:16): “[Food truck invasion]...they all pull up like Mad Max and shit with dust clouds behind them.”
• Austin (Self-description): “I've got a psycho side and a normal side. I've lost my mind. Help me find it.” (44:41)
• Austin’s social media: “You didn’t know I’m a psychopath.” (36:12)
• Jeff Fisher’s 911 call (59:06): "Please. A medical young man beating up a woman across the street...I ran over there. I'm bleeding profusely here at the moment."
• James describing crime scene (60:26): “He continued to bite his face and rip the flesh from the victim.”
• Police officer account (61:34): “The dog grabbed his arm. They got a police dog, grabbed the suspect's arm, pulled it off the suspect, ripped it out of the dog's mouth and went in for a deeper hold.”
• Harrouff to police: "Fucking kill me. Fucking kill me. Shoot me now. I deserve to die."
• James (77:52): “Here we are opening the prison doors for a double murderer, letting him out.”

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Timeline & Timestamps of Key Segments

• (04:18): Tequesta, FL background & host impressions
• (13:19): Introduce John & Michelle Stevens, their romance and “Garage Mahal” culture
• (24:15-39:47): Austin Harrouff’s social media journaling, drug use, and red flags
• (41:01-42:23): Austin’s first major psychotic symptoms (garage sleeping, “demon Daniel,” Oprah searches)
• (50:39-53:06): The bizarre dinner and Austin’s departure from family
• (58:26-62:05): The attack: neighbor 911 call, police arrival, “face eating”
• (64:33): Austin drinks chemical solvent in the midst of the assault
• (66:01-68:58): Hospitalization, coma, and shocking toxicology results
• (70:11): Austin awakens, requests to appear on Dr. Phil
• (74:37): Jail phone call reveals lack of remorse
• (76:12): Psychiatric evaluations and diagnosis
• (77:30): Legal outcome: Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity, indefinite commitment
• (77:52): Victim’s daughter’s courtroom statement

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Closing Thoughts

The episode exemplifies Small Town Murder’s blend of gallows humor, banter, and research, while holding a clear sense of empathy for the victims and their families. The hosts marvel at the nightmarish, seemingly motiveless brutality and the disturbing combination of mental illness, parental denial, and privilege that led to two innocent people being killed in a place “where nothing ever happens.”

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Transcript

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[B]

I'm Jimmy Wisman.

[A]

Thank you folks so much for joining us today on this. Another crazy.

[B]

Oh boy.

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I don't know how to start it because I was gonna say on this episode and I was gonna kinda give a little intro, but this is the most insane episode. I don't even know how to start it. It's just so crazy. Buckle up everybody. That's all I'm gonna say. Before we get into that though, head over to shut upandgivememerder.com and get your tickets for live shows. We are in Seattle, I believe it's October 18th. It's the Saturday of that weekend, whenever that is. So get in there and do that for sure at the Moore Theater. We're very excited. Then make sure to get your tickets for the virtual live show.

[B]

Oh shit.

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The Thursday right before Halloween. Get your tickets right now. Just like a regular live show, except you don't have to go anywhere. You can be right where you want to be. Be in your living room. Wear whatever you want. Hang out with us. Do that. We'll have all the pictures and the jokes. We'll be wearing costumes because it's Halloween. We have some fun ones for you. It's going to be so much fun. And it's available for two weeks after the show actually airs. So you can buy it a little late, you can get it early, you can watch it 100 times. Do whatever you want. Shut up and give me. Murder.com is the place for that. Also listen to our other two shows, Crime in Sports and your stupid opinions because they're hilarious. And you definitely want to do that. And then get yourself some Patreon. Treat yourself. Patreon.com CrimeInSports is where you get all of the bonus material. Anybody $5 a month or above. You're gonna get so much stuff. First of all, you're gonna get hundreds of episodes that you've never heard before. Bonus stuff back episodes. Then you get new ones every other week. One Crime in Sports, one Small Town Murder. And you get them all.

[B]

You betcha.

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This week, what you're gonna get for crime and sports, we're gonna talk about this basketball fight in the 70s where a man almost died. He did.

[B]

Yeah.

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It just. Screw. Their lives have just completely changed after one punch on a basketball court. It's a wild story. We'll get into that.

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The Kermit Washington Clay and Brain Smasher. Did you ever see that?

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Yes. Then Small Town Murder. We're going to talk about the history of executions in the United States going back to the 1600s. It's a lot and it's pretty crazy stuff. So we'll get into all of that and more. And you get a shout out at the end of the show. And. And you get all three shows, crime and sports, your stupid opinions and all the small town murder that we put out all ad free with the Patreon as well. Ad free. Can't beat it. It's five bucks a month. The best deal going. Patreon.com CrimeInSports is where you get that. That said, I think it's time everybody to dive into this. What do you say here? Let's all take a stretch and a deep breath and let's all shout. Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this, everybody.

[B]

Okay.

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Let's go on a trip, shall we? We're going down to Florida this week.

[B]

Nice place.

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You know, it's gonna be crazy because they're always crazy. There's so many murders to choose from down there. There's no reason to do one that's not absolutely insane because there's always an option for a crazier one. This is in Tequesta, Florida.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

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T E Q U E S T A. You know this place?

[B]

I haven't heard of it.

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Okay. Oh yeah. Like. Yeah, my family used to go there for vacations.

[B]

Sounds lovely.

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Southeastern Florida. It's in about an hour and a half to Miami, about two and a half hours to Orlando and about three hours and 15 minutes to our last Florida episode, which was Sarasota, which was the Jerry Springer show murder.

[B]

Right.

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Which was crazy stuff.

[B]

So why is this shit a beach community?

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Not on the beach, but there's water near here. It's in Palm beach county, is where it is. Area code 561, population 6097.

[B]

Oh yeah.

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So there is. It's a smaller place. There is some. The houses are crazy expensive here. Median household income is $89,018, which is about 20,000 over the national average. Median home cost though, $596,000. Almost. Almost double the national average. So it is expensive. So yeah, there's definitely. It's a. It's kind of an upscale area. Number one, it was built a little bit of history of this town. It was founded in the 50s, so the history runs deep here. Obviously it's not good.

[B]

I'm sure.

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And it was founded as a planned community centered around the Tequesta Country Club. That's all this community is. What if we built a bunch of houses around the country club? Yeah, that's was named after the Tequesta people that originally inhabited the area. Who? There's not a trace left. Obviously not at the country club anyway. The village of Tequesta was incorporated in 1970 or 1957 by a real estate developer. So that tells you a lot here. The guy purchased 86 acres of land known as Jupiter Inlet Colony and made this place. He created Waterway Village and then finished the country club and 600 home sites. And now we have this. So reviews of this town. Here we go. Five stars. Tequesta is also a suburb of world famous Palm Beach. World famous. It's walkable, bikeable, upscale, yet down to earth people and pet friendly coastal village. Nestled between ocean beaches, river inlet and historic lighthouse. The the Loxahatchee river and the Jonathan Dixon State Park. Two miles to Jupiter's harborside place. The Maltz performing Center, waterfront restaurants and entertainment. Five golf courses within a five mile radius.

[B]

Jesus.

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Seems like they wouldn't have room for anything else but the golf courses.

[B]

Five, five mile radius. That's. Yeah.

[A]

How much is a golf course? Is that a mile? Like what are we talking about?

[B]

Oh my God. Usually they're bigger than that, Right?

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That's what I would think. Yeah. You're really cramming them in. And a half hour drive to Palm Beach International Airport.

[B]

This is just a douchey area, huh?

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It's real douchey. Yeah. If you like to golf and think you're better than other people, I think this is the place for you.

[B]

Sounds like it.

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Here's five stars. Nothing really Ever happens here. Okay, that's five stars. I guess that's good. They're looking for quiet. Here is three stars. There's lots of tourism all year round. Only problem is we don't have many events going on in the town. Well, we'll find something to do for you. Don't worry. We have a section for that. Main events in the park is when a major holiday is coming up, like Easter. And then they will have an Easter egg hunt for the kids. But other than that, not much to do. They used to have a food truck invasion. I hate the way they put that invasion. Seems like you're not expecting them. And like a hundred of them pull up at once. Like, what the hell? It's an invasion.

[B]

Cheesesteaks and tacos down your throat.

[A]

Yeah, they all pull up like Mad Max and shit with dust clouds behind them. Haven't heard anything about that recently. And then finally three stars. Not too much. Just not too much. That's the first sentence.

[B]

Not too much.

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Not too much. We could use a few more street lights around town. Okay. I have seen more drugs coming into the neighborhood which is causing some concern. How do you see drugs coming into the neighborhood? You're sitting on your roof with binoculars watching the guys drop it off. You don't know what people are doing in their house. Yeah, and there's $600,000 houses. There's just drugs pouring in all over the place.

[B]

I assure you there's been coke there for a long time. If you got coke dick bags.

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Yeah, forever coming into the neighborhood which is causing some concern. Along with that, there has been some car break ins in this past month. Alrighty then.

[B]

Lock your doors, man.

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Yeah, what do you want? Break in, Things to do. Or maybe it's Taurus. Who knows? Things to do. I found the Tequesta chili cook off and beer tasting event I'm in. It's gonna take place on Main street in Tequesta. Some of the pictures are a bunch of old men wearing kilts playing bagpipes.

[B]

Oh, is that typical garbage for eating chili?

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That's traditional chili. Cook off. Music is a bipe and a kilt.

[B]

I mean, then you hike it up rather than pull them down. That's good.

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The big event Here is the 13th annual Chili Cook off and beer tasting event. Apparently you're gonna get judged on your chili and all that kind of shit. And they have the chili teams, okay, the chili teams. Advanced bionetics, American Legion, firefighters on a mission. It's a shitload of fire people. Hollywood Fire Rescue, Jupiter Medical center cath lab. I don't want you making chili. They stick the cath lab. Yes. Do me a favor. Stick that long rod up my dick hole, then make me some chili. That's what I want.

[B]

Force chili down my throat.

[A]

That sounds terrible. So it's all people like that neighborhood people.

[B]

Force me chilling through your cock.

[A]

That sounds so bad. So it feels like it's gonna happen. You're gonna feed it to you through a catheter. I don't want that.

[B]

There's no beans in that one.

[A]

Thank fuck. So anyway, the judges, they have, quote, celebrity judges for this.

[B]

Who are they?

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Well, let's find out. Matt Lincoln. He totally looks like a local news guy, doesn't he? Look at him. That's absolutely, absolutely a local news guy. TA Walker. Just some guy. Jay Cashmere, which looks nothing like he sounds. He sounds like a rapper or something. But look at him. He looks like a white guy with a. With a YouTube fitness channel.

[B]

He looks like a golf dick pack.

[A]

He does. But Brendan McCarthy, who's posing with his beer.

[B]

Yeah, he makes beer.

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Chef Jason Casey, Harry MacArthur. Just some old guy sitting there.

[B]

Jason Casey looks all kinds of judgy.

[A]

Yeah, he's going to be judging that chili. He's a chill.

[B]

That's a good judge.

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Logan Morrison. Some guy from the Florida Marlins, it looks like. Or Miami Marlins, probably. Yeah, just a random Delta pilot named Captain Terry Titheridge. Oh, no, he's from below deck. He's from. So he's one of those people. I don't know that one. I didn't watch that one. Tim and Chelsea, a middle aged guy with a pink mohawk and his wife with a camo skirt. They're DJs on New Country 103.

[B]

Yeah, the Tim and Chelsea Show. Sure.

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Molly Young, who looks like a local state legislator with a fucking flag behind her. Mark Murphy, who's carrying an Irish flag.

[B]

Oh, he is so proud of it.

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Amy Brennan, who's just an older lady.

[B]

Works at the hospice.

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Maria Marino, who is mayor of Palm Beach. I don't know how you can be mayor of a county, but she figured it out.

[B]

It's the county mayor.

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I don't know. Janni Rodriguez, who's a very shiny, amazing, smiled woman who's an anchor at wptv, obviously.

[B]

I tell you, when there was a house fire.

[A]

Tyler Cameron and Tate Madden, who are, quote, television personalities, whatever the fuck. Okay. Sam Kerrigan, who again, works at a local news station, obviously by hair shot. Mo and Sally, who. I have no idea who the hell they are.

[B]

Don't even say.

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Doesn't even say he's on a boat. Just some people who hang out. Mo and Sally, local country club members. Mo and Sally. Tanya Lorigan. I don't know.

[B]

She looks like those are people that are gonna tell you your chili sucks.

[A]

Yeah, Tanya Lorigan looks like she makes Mormon momfluencer videos, so that's a great group of people. You want your chili judged by those people? I don't think so. That said, let's talk about some murder here. All right, let's do this. We must go back to 2016. So not too far. About nine years, it seems. Not very far at all, but it really is nine years ago.

[B]

I'll tell you what.

[A]

2016. We were podcasting in 2016. Think about that.

[B]

2019 does not seem that long ago.

[A]

That is.

[B]

No, no, I know, but I'm thinking. I was just talking to my niece the other day.

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Oh. I was like, what does 2019 have to do with this? We're telling a murder story. Who cares? What are we talking?

[B]

2016? Anything 15 and newer seems so recent, and it's fucking a decade ago.

[A]

It was nine years ago. It sounds so recent, but John Joseph Stevens III, let's talk about here. He's born July 2, 1957. So he's 59 years old in 2016. He just recently retired.

[B]

Great.

[A]

He's recently retired, and he is ready to enjoy his life. And he's moving down to Florida. He's got a new wife, a new life. He's retired. Yeah. He'd been previously married and divorced. He has adult children.

[B]

Sure.

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He's lived a whole life, and now he's ready to actually enjoy it.

[B]

Love it.

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It is sad that you don't get to enjoy life until you're too old to enjoy it without pain. You know what I mean? That really does suck when once I'm 73, I'll be all set to enjoy my life then. Yeah, great. That's perfect.

[B]

I just keep talking about with my kids, me moving out of Arizona one day and living somewhere else. And I'm like, in a few years. And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm gonna be so old. Yeah.

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That's when you get to.

[B]

This is gonna be horrible.

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Yeah. That's when you get to enjoy yourself.

[B]

Believable.

[A]

Now he's married now, has a new wife named Michelle Karen Mishkin. She is born March 14, 1963. So a little younger than him. She's 53. She also recently retired to enjoy this life down here with him. They have decided their 50s are going to be the decade for them. So she also had been previously married, divorced, found new love again. They've been together for 10 years, and they've been married for four or five of those years since then. And they're having just a wonderful time down there.

[B]

Love it.

[A]

Michelle is described as someone who would do anything for anyone and always very happy and laughy. She's a very laughing person. And everybody says, just the nicest person. Michelle is so nice. So he scored. Old John Joseph stevens scored with a good wife here. Apparently, there's all sorts of nice cards they wrote to each other back and forth. Sure, they keep the romance going. Here's one from Michelle to John here. Quote, each day when I turn the corner on kokomo lane, I smile when I see your truck, knowing you're home, and I will see you in a mere second. Kokomo lane, that's where they live. And then John wrote one to her, saying, I'm so in love with you, mish. I feel like a new person and hope this new life of ours will bring joy to both of us. Yeah, it's all laid out before them. This is just doing it. Yeah, they're doing it. They have retirement plans. All they're gonna do down there. They're going to Florida. They're gonna go on the boat all the time with their friends. They're gonna be drinking, hanging out, having fun. Yeah. They're also helping out the adult children that they have start their lives. They're enjoying their leisure time. They especially like their garage. This is a thing in Florida, by the way.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Also seems like a weird thing in your neighborhood, too, which seems like it's basically Florida. It says fucking any neighborhood where you see too many open garages. Get the fuck away from there. That means people just stop by uninvited and say hello. Yes, they do. It's a nightmare.

[B]

Yeah, they do.

[A]

My garage is so far away from the street that there's no way you'd even think about it. That's the way I like it.

[B]

Yeah. My shit is like 50ft off the street. Big bright lights in there.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

So I can work on shit. And when my doors are open, I'll be underneath something and I'll hear, hey, Jimmy, here we go.

[A]

All the next thing you hear is the door start to close. Jimmy as he tries to look up. Plunk. Get the fuck away from me. The garage is still my house. I'm in my house, technically. Leave me alone until I step outside. So that's a big deal for them. They have a house at 19010 Southeast Kokomo Lane here. They're known as real welcoming hosts. They are all right. Their garage is set up to host.

[B]

People come over and drink with me in my garage.

[A]

TV set up all that, which to me, I don't understand. Florida is hot. It's hot. It's all the time hot. It's hot at night. It's hot in February. It's hot when you first wake up. It's hot when you go to bed. It's always hot. I don't get why you would want. At least Arizona has a cool season, though Florida is never cool. January, it's still 82 degrees out. It's horrible. So why anyone would want to spend any time outside there, I can't imagine. But to be able to sit in your garage when through a door, through a mere entryway, there's air conditioning as far as the eye can see. I don't understand.

[B]

Some people insulate the fuck out of the garage and then air condition it just for the. Just for the party.

[A]

But the door's open the whole time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. What are you doing?

[B]

So, yeah, I don't know, man.

[A]

Their garage, they called it the Garage Mahal. That's what they called.

[B]

Oh, boy.

[A]

Yeah, that's how into it they were.

[B]

Yeah, they love it.

[A]

They transformed it into this game room. Cars don't go in there. Put it that way.

[B]

It's a bar in there.

[A]

Yeah. They never get in a comfortable car. It's always hot as shit when they get in a car because this is going on. They have all sorts of seating, a big tv, big stash of beer in the fridge for everybody. It's meant to hang out. They want people to come over. They leave the garage door open, and they hang out in there all evening. And people come up and hang out for a while and come and go and leave. And this is what they do in this neighborhood, apparently. People garage hop. They just walk around, see whose doors are open. That's what's going on. So that is what they are doing in 2016. About to live the life they want to live. A nightmare for me, but for them, seems like what they want. Everything. Yeah, everything. Now let's talk about another person who has nothing to do with them whatsoever.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Austin Kelly Harouf. Spelled all fucked up. H, A, R, R, O, U, F, F. Yeah. Too many Rs. Too many Fs. He's born December 21, 1996, so he could he's almost too young to even be dude's son.

[B]

Like that's how to even know this guy.

[A]

Yeah, well, they don't know. He doesn't know him. Oh, he has nothing to do with them. Now his father, Austin's father's name is Wade, actually. Dr. Wade. Dr. Wade is a successful dentist in the Jupiter area. He lives in Jupiter, a few miles away. His mother's name is Mina Haruf. He's got a sister named Haley.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Now his parents got divorced when he was about 13. Austin.

[B]

Oh no.

[A]

And yeah, he didn't take it real well either.

[B]

It was tough. Yeah.

[A]

His dad is described as real strict, real forceful and with a temper as if being a dentist didn't make him terrifying enough. Yeah, just fire up a drill. That's all you have to do. I'm doing it.

[B]

The scariest guy on the planet.

[A]

Yeah, you don't have to yell, just I'm cleaning my room. Yeah, whatever you want. Whatever you need. Jesus Christ. So he, Austin described his father here as quote, strange, kind of loud and a redneck, but also a kind person. But he also has a big temper.

[B]

Strange kind of.

[A]

Okay, a strange, loud redneck who's also very kind but also has an explosive temper at the same time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

His mother he describes as sweet and very lenient. She's the one who kind of has the more hands on approach with him. The parents live very close to each other in Jupiter to stay co parenting. So when they divorced they made him a central, you know, part of this thing. There's a family history of mental illness here, but neither parents have any mental illness that we can tell.

[B]

Okay, who's the history? Grandparents or some shit?

[A]

Yeah, it goes back, uncles, whoever. But just not least anymore. Yeah, there's a history of schizophrenia in the family.

[B]

Oh my.

[A]

Which is not great. The father is they have good money, this family. He's got his own dental practice and makes a shitload of money. Just a shitload. Anything you'll find out from the Adelson trial there done in Charlie Adelson is how much money dentists in Florida have. It is really impressive. Remarkable. Millions of dollars, a million in cash sitting in a safe. Like these people are loaded, man, Loaded. So Austin in high school, he played football, high school football and also wrestled. He's apparently real strong in high school. He could bench press over £300. He's real into like bodybuilding type of shit too.

[B]

Big kid, huh?

[A]

But football teammates said that their coaches would criticize him because he wasn't aggressive. Enough. So he's big and strong, but not aggressive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is interesting. If you have a real aggressive father, you'll either be super aggressive or super passive, one of the two. And it seems like he didn't take the aggressive side on that. So he graduates from high school in Jupiter and he is accepted to Florida State University.

[B]

All Seminoles, fsu.

[A]

Let's go. He's going to go and learn how to drink beer through his ass, apparently, is what he needs to do there. He completed his freshman year. He initially majored in biology. He was going to go into pre med, but then he changed his major to exercise science, which is not pre medicine. He wants to become a dietitian.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

He's into, you know, that kind of thing.

[B]

Teaches people what to eat.

[A]

He's got a nickname, and that is Happy Boy.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That. His family always called him Happy Boy. His friends in college call him Happy Boy. Happy Boy is his nickname.

[B]

Is it his nickname or is it.

[A]

Like he's Happy Boy? No, his family gave it to him when he was little. Happy Boy.

[B]

All right.

[A]

You don't call a sullen five year old Happy Boy.

[B]

Sometimes you do, don't you?

[A]

How many sullen 5 year olds have you come across in your day?

[B]

It might be fun to just call them Happy Boy.

[A]

Yeah, the world hasn't fucked them over enough for them to be sullen yet when they're five. It's great.

[B]

Creepy ass Happy Boy at.

[A]

Yeah. What's up, Happy Boy? Look at you, all pissy. If your kids. If you got a five year old and they're miserable, it's your fault. That's all there is to it. Their brain isn't set up to be pissy yet.

[B]

Calm down, Happy Boy.

[A]

Oh, man. Everyone says about Austin that he's an extremely nice and gentle person. Described as a funny, goofy kid who liked to make people laugh all the time. Very active in bodybuilding and fitness as you have to be, if that's your major. He has a YouTube channel with fitness stuff and other random bullshit that he uses here. He's a member of the Alpha Data Phi fraternity. Phis at Fire PI. I don't know.

[B]

I think it's PI.

[A]

The Alpha Deltas. We're just gonna say, could you tell.

[B]

James and I aren't frat breasts?

[A]

Yeah, we don't even know how they're pronounced. Never mind.

[B]

I'm not gonna say you're Greek.

[A]

Bullshit. No, dude. When we were in Madison for the live shows there, I walked to a place to get something at like 11 o' clock at night and there was these giant frat parties going on everywhere. And I was like, wow, how foreign is that? That is just so weird.

[B]

What a life, boys.

[A]

What a life. Greek letters on them that I didn't recognize. I'm like, this is crazy.

[B]

What did you buy in friends, you fucking dorks?

[A]

Isn't that nice? Your dad paid 15 grand a year for you to fucking get friends, for.

[B]

You to have friends.

[A]

It's working, though. There's just. There's a line of like, 300 fucking scantily clad girls trying to get into your house. So you know what? Thank your dad.

[B]

Yeah, thank your dad. He's probably. You're probably also gonna get a great job because you bought that friend.

[A]

Absolutely. So he's a member of a fraternity. He loves to party when he gets in there. Never liked to party before he got to college, but.

[B]

So much for dietitians.

[A]

Yeah, well, no, FSU is kind of a. It's a party school.

[B]

Yeah, but I mean, he's going. He's trying to be a dietitian. He's going to put a bunch of Coors Light on top of that. On top of his fucking kale.

[A]

Yeah. He's in college. Of course he's not. He doesn't have any clients yet. Doesn't matter. So he starts doing all sorts of shit. He likes Adderall a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which he's not prescribed, obviously. Loves. He smokes weed constantly.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Drinks like a fucking monster when he's there. He takes some acid, some mushrooms, little ecstasy here and there. Alcohol, though, he just drinks. He blacks out multiple times a week.

[B]

Really?

[A]

At one point, when he's telling people that is a bad sign. First of all.

[B]

Yeah, that's heavy drinking, man.

[A]

Well, not only that, usually for the most part, people that are real prone to alcoholism black out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. People who aren't pass out. Oh, yeah.

[B]

It's a difference.

[A]

You fell asleep or you don't know what you did and go on autopilot for three hours. That's. Usually. People have a real predisposition to alcoholism having that. So it's not a good thing if you do it all the time. Yeah, he doesn't have any. He doesn't get in any trouble or anything like that. A lot of his text messages here are nuts. We'll talk about this here. He. At one text, he said, why the fuck just not do what you want? Just do the craziest shit you can.

[B]

Well, I mean, there's a lot of reasons in society.

[A]

You crazy fuck it's fsu, man. Do as craziest shit you can. Another text said, I thought I was crazy, but really not. I just know that for me personally, the drugs are taking a toll on me and I can't handle, uh. Oh, yeah, because he's doing all sorts of crazy shit. Some people's brains just can't handle drugs. They just can't. Some people handle drugs very well.

[B]

Sure, sure.

[A]

We've tried to put like this blanket over everything and it doesn't really work. Some people handle drugs just fine, some people don't. Their lives fall apart. It's just. It's a weird thing. He started doing some journaling about lacking social acceptance, which is odd for a guy who's in a fucking frat.

[B]

Right?

[A]

You live with 20 of your friends but no social acceptance. What are you talking about?

[B]

You're socially accepted like a motherfucker.

[A]

Yeah. You have more friends than 97% of the people on earth.

[B]

They were purchased. But they're still friends.

[A]

They're still people you hang out with.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Fuck. There's plenty of lonely people out there. If they could throw down a few bucks and someone would hang out with them, they do it, you know, they'll.

[B]

Come fix your car in the middle of the night with you.

[A]

Or at least come over with a keg. Like, we'll talk about here. Here is some from 2015 while he's in school. One is from August 22, 2015. I drove high for the first time. Smoked a friend's brother's bong. So there's that. August 29, he said, got kicked out of a frat party. You got kicked out of a frat party to somebody else. A friend said that you got way too fucked up and they thought you were going to puke, so they kicked you out. To which I responded, I don't remember. I got too drunk.

[B]

Oh. So a friend said that to him and he said, I don't remember it.

[A]

He's saying that. That's a text from him to his friend. You got kicked out for being too drunk is what I've been told. But I don't remember because I was too drunk.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I probably should have been kicked out.

[A]

Too, in other words. Haha. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. It's hugely easy. Yeah. September 19th. I'm fucked up. Getting drunk is so fun. Went to a bar. I was so player plastered. I was trashed. I'm gonna drink my troubles away.

[B]

Is that a thing? Player plastered.

[A]

I've never heard of that before. But I don't, I don't go to FSU. So good for him. Yeah. September 22nd. I'm living life in the fast lane.

[B]

Uh. Oh, take it easy, Glenn Frey.

[A]

What the fuck are you talking about? I think. Wasn't that Joe Walsh? That one.

[B]

It's the Eagles. It doesn't matter. It's all of them.

[A]

I was heavy once, into drugs at that point. I don't know what that means. September 27th, you hooked up with someone because, quote, I was really drunk, quote, I'm a douche. Kill me with a knife to say that to that I say, I wish I could.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Then he posts another one, and this is just an Eminem fucking quote. I just drank a fifth of vodka. Dare me to drive, which is just A Eminem quote. October 1st. I'm thicked up.

[B]

Thicc'd up.

[A]

Thicked up. All right.

[B]

Does that mean he's horny?

[A]

His thighs and his ass are popping right now. October 2nd. I was drunk as hell. Still kind of drunk. Literally blacked out. I blacked out last night. I blacked out for the first time. Then you said you wanted to do roids to make your legs big, then said we went to some trailer park and did meth.

[B]

Who is. Who's he writing this to?

[A]

His friends that he. Yeah, that happened. This is what we did. Yeah. So he's saying that. Yeah, we got. I blacked out. I do remember you saying you wanted to do roids to make your legs bigger.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then we went to a trailer park and did method.

[B]

What a party.

[A]

So that is nice. One nice thing about Florida, there's always a trailer park containing meth within driving distance of you. Always. Which is helpful no matter where you are, close by. Yeah, it's nice if that's what you're into. October 7th. I'm trash right now. Sorry I couldn't help you last night. I was so wasted. I didn't black out, but I almost did. Okay. October 10th. Bro, I'm fucked. Up, up. I'm ducked. Ducked, fucked. I don't know. I p. I'm. Yo, I think he was too wasted to type there.

[B]

Yep. It sounds like he's blacking out as he types.

[A]

Yes, I see. Yo, he just. He shut down like a. Like a robot. That's battery was dying. Master Reset. Yeah, he did. Fucking Johnny Five fucking went down. October 11th. I tried to help you, but I was so drunk. I was so drunk, I couldn't even function. October 12th. You didn't know I'm a psychopath. He typed somebody. Okay. October 14th. I'm actually drunk right now.

[B]

Great.

[A]

October 15th. I'm drunk at the library again. I always drink too hard. I'm up. Then you wrote black out black so you can't see any more. Blackout till you fly.

[B]

He's doing it again.

[A]

Wow. Sick. I did meth in some trailer park. Oh, boy.

[B]

Sick. I did meth.

[A]

He's doing one of these. Sick, brah. He's doing a hang loose, daddy. Absolutely. That's what I'm trying to throw up there.

[B]

We got after it tonight, fucking sick. I did meth.

[A]

Sick. Shit was sick. Me and some fucking trash people did a bunch of meth. It was awesome. October 17th. I'm drunk. Give me the keys. I want to get blacked out again. Last night. I woke up this morning. Again. Last night. I woke up this morning in his room. In his room. Without pants on. With puke. And a hole. And a hole in my shirt. Your friend said you were going crazy last night. To which you said, I remember nothing. Sounds familiar. Okay, there's a picture of him passed out next to a toilet with pants down and vomit everywhere.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

That's nice. Then he's. At one point, he said, I wish I remember. I hate being sober. October 18th. I blacked out. I don't remember anything. October 23rd, I'm on my third blackout. Couple minutes later, it's four and I'm drunk. I'm trying so hard not to blackout.

[B]

Dude, how hard you gotta try to not black out?

[A]

Dude, this is apparently real hard if you're a college student. October 24th. I'm already drunk. Great. October or November 18th. Want drugs. Went to rehab for meth. Need hot girl to smoke. To snort cocaine off my dick.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

November 19th. Gonna get lit. Drunk.

[B]

Yeah. Lit, drunk.

[A]

Lit drunk. November 20th. I was plastered. I was real drunk. Drunk. I need help. You are confused by a text message from a girl because you were too drunk drunk. November 22nd, let's get hammered. Sounds like a plan. Getting hammered tonight. Happy. Need lsd. Need meth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I need acid, meth and booze tonight.

[B]

Happy boy.

[A]

November 25th. Give me the keys. I'm drunk. November 26th. Drunk. I need alcohol. Drunk, drunk, drunk, drunk. November 28th. I embarrass myself. Bad. Blacked out last night and I texted a girl. I have no idea why. Friend says. What did you say? You really need to chill with that blacking out.

[B]

Yeah, you do. And you gotta fucking handle your booze, kid.

[A]

Yep. So by 2016, he's 19 years old, he's 6 foot tall, he's 200 pounds, he's muscular, and he's a goddamn menace to society.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So he returns home for the summer in 2016. Correct. And his home address is 18421 Lost Lake Way in Jupiter. Very upscale neighborhood. Only a few miles, I think, about four short miles from where John and Michelle live in their garage paradise. Now, Austin has been acting strangely the past couple months. Over this summer of 2016, started documenting these thoughts in a journal. He returned home displaying some weird shit, some strange psychiatric shit, which is not abnormal for college kids. Schizophrenia, the real fucking sweet spot for schizophrenia is like 18 to 22.

[B]

All right?

[A]

That's when, if you're going to get it, that's when it happens. Like, we're past it now. We're not going to be schizophrenic now.

[B]

We should be fine.

[A]

That's when it kicks in. Really. So if you have a college age student that's displaying massive mental things, you gotta get them some help, you know what I mean? So he's displaying weird symptoms when he gets home. He moved his bed to the garage of his house. They don't have an open party garage. He's replacing a Nissan Altima in there. Like that's. He just put it in the second slot.

[B]

Garage Mahal. This is Garage Ma sleep.

[A]

Yeah, this is Garage Ma room. So he is. But the reason why he moved to the garage is the strange part. He claimed that the house was haunted by demons.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Not even ghosts. Demons, Demons. Bad ones. He believed that a demon named Daniel, specifically, he had a specific demon that was really breaking his balls a lot, that Daniel was trying to kill him.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

But Daniel doesn't like the garage. He likes to stay in climate control. So if I move out to the.

[B]

Garage, he can't get me.

[A]

Daniel Demon Daniel can't get me. Which is nice. That's good to have. He claimed started telling people, including his parents, that he had superpowers. Quote, like Jesus.

[B]

Oh, yeah. That guy's got the most superpowers.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he can shoot those webs out of his wrists and he has that cool utility belt. That's pretty awesome. He's got all sorts of stuff going on.

[B]

All that flying does nice too.

[A]

Like Jesus. Yeah. He would patrol his house at night, all night long, just walking around in circles to, quote, protect the family from evil.

[B]

Gotta keep Daniel out of here.

[A]

I mean. Yeah, I don't want him attacking everybody else. He searched online for demonic possession and then searched for how to contact Oprah Winfrey for help. So I have a demon, his name is Daniel, and only Oprah can help me with him. There's a. Where is your mind going through any of that?

[B]

Dude, I got superpowers. The only person that has more. Oprah.

[A]

Oprah. She can help me. So the family just locked their bedroom doors. We're like, well, in case he goes crazy, we'll lock the bedroom doors. He did a bunch of drugs this year. He's fine. Yeah, they don't like take him to see somebody, which is they have the money, they have the resources that they can just take him. The guy's a doctor himself. He could get a good referral and take him somewhere. So he starts googling some weird shit over this summer. One is how do I know I'm not crazy? Wow, you just googled it. Meaning you just solved the how do I know I'm not crazy is a question that sane people don't ask themselves.

[B]

Rubik's Cube solved.

[A]

Wow. Common traits of good people is another thing he looked at to see if he had them. What happens if you don't sleep well thinking demons are following you and you start looking to Oprah for help? Yeah. Another one is, I think I am crazy. What do I do? Which should have been an easy Google go see a psychiatrist, period. That should have been result one through civilian. She a psychiatrist. What the fuck is wrong with you? And then of course, a lot about demonic possession and then how to reach Oprah Winfrey for help with demonic possession and the other things.

[B]

Who told him that Oprah fixes this?

[A]

I don't know. He must have saw one episode of Oprah when he was eight where there was like somebody possessed and Oprah was nice to him. And he's like, oprah's the one who handles this. Which is weird because later on he'll deal with Dr. Phil as well, which is strange.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Oh, yeah. So he makes a lot of social media posts. His social media handle is austiefrosty with I's not bad. No, that's bad. Austi Frosty is bad. Real bad. That's not a good one. Not a good one.

[B]

How old is he?

[A]

19. Austy Frosty. Yeah, real weird shit here. Twitter, YouTube, Facebook is his main avenues here. In the channel's description for his YouTube channel, he writes, I've got a psycho side and a normal side. I've lost my mind. Help me find it.

[B]

Oh, boy.

[A]

In a July 13, 2016 video, he is preparing for a day of fishing and he walks through the house carrying a semi automatic pistol, which is how I fish always. Yeah, those poles are for assholes. Poles are for people with no imagination. You know what I'm saying? He points a laser sight at the wall, then looks down the barrel after pretending to pull the trigger. In the next clip, he's walking through the house carrying a knife at a point of view angle, which he then hands to another man preparing fishing poles.

[B]

Oh, he's got a friend over there, huh?

[A]

Yeah, so I think it's probably his dad maybe too. We don't know because it's only a hand we see.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

More videos too. Generally focused on bodybuildings, bodybuilding rants and karaoke cover songs. And sometimes his own raps once in a while as well.

[B]

Well done.

[A]

Which I really want to hear from a 19 year old frat boy named Austy Frosty. I want to hear him rap more.

[B]

Than anyone, obviously who's proven out of his mind and blacked out.

[A]

Yeah, so this between mid July and mid August of 2016 though, his, his online shit went crazy. He has 54 videos posted and 41 of them were posted during that month.

[B]

Oh boy.

[A]

So it is a lot. They show him doing rapping while he's driving. July 11, he did a rap video titled you do youo Freestyle. And he sings, quote, I'd rather cut using a knife and slit my own throat. I'm like Bugs Bunny. I stick my teeth in because it's funny. I'm like a Looney Tune. I take a lot of shrooms.

[B]

Yeah, he does.

[A]

So he has a Sugar Hill Gang level of rhyme complications and with very dumb shit. There's a video August 11, 2016 where he talks about bodybuilding and steroids. And he says, I'm not gonna follow Arnold and guys like that anymore. I'm gonna be myself. This video is, I'm gonna follow myself, I'm gonna take my own thing. He said, I used to think that I needed steroids to be a bodybuilder, to be this thing, to be this symbol, to be this lie.

[B]

Oh boy.

[A]

Oh boy. August 12, 2016, YouTube video where he just says, quote, I don't need drugs. And then he says, I think that steroids are really not for me. Honestly, I used to think that, that I needed steroids to be a bodybuilder. And he said, peace out.

[B]

So in another video, Giant man, that's out of his mind.

[A]

Oh yeah, he's crazy. Giant kid.

[B]

Oh boy.

[A]

In another video he repeatedly states, I'm not a pussy. I'm not a pussy. Over and over again. You ever do that?

[B]

Oprah calling, I'm not a pussy.

[A]

I'M not a pussy. Oprah called me a pussy and I'm not taking it. Yeah, he's acting real weird. Acting super strange. Wow. He was claiming superpowers. He said that he was sent to help people. It's a lot. August 14, 2016. Hangs out with his dad. His dad takes him to a gun show. You know, you have a crazy teenager who's talking about violence. You want to take him around the most weapons possible.

[B]

It sounds like dad's at his wits end and has no idea how to bond with this kid.

[A]

They're just ignoring it.

[B]

Yeah, well, they're ignoring it.

[A]

Hey, look, we're here. Everything's fine on the surface. Yeah, just ignore it. He'll be fine. He's just. It's a phase. Dad buys him a switchblade that day. Oh, very nice. Monday, August 14th or 15th, 2016. He shows up early at a friend's house. Austin does asking quote, what year was I born?

[B]

Oh, boy.

[A]

The friend says, 1996. Austin just turns and leaves without saying anything else.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Not even that. Just showed up. 96. Great. Bye.

[B]

I was filling out an application. I needed your help.

[A]

He apparently did some weird shit at the beach. He didn't show up in beach appropriate clothes and he was threatening to kill friends who call. If anybody calls me crazy, I'll kill him. They were like, okay, that's fine. Sure.

[B]

You dress like an astronaut.

[A]

That's odd. Yeah. You showed up wearing a fucking. Just a nurse's uniform. Like the skirt and the hat and the whole deal. Like a candy striper from the 40s. It's weird. He claims at one point that day that, quote, I am half horse and half immortal.

[B]

What?

[A]

I don't know if the horse half is the immortal half or half of him is mortal horse and half of them is immortal man. I'm not sure if he's gonna be dragging a dead horse carcass around half his body.

[B]

That would be a nightmare. A minotaur whose only half of them lives forever.

[A]

Wouldn't that be the worst? Dragging his horse ass behind him the whole time. Holy, that's terrible. Nobody wants that. What an awful fucking.

[B]

What an awful part just ages, dies and rots.

[A]

It's rotting horse carcass you're just hauling behind you.

[B]

You just stink for the rest of eternity.

[A]

It's a mess. So that day he goes out to eat with his parents too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Takes his half horse ass to eat with his parents. They go to a place named Duffy's. Within 30 minutes, he leaves the restaurant three different times he arrives. They all arrive at 5:35. 33 is his first time taking off from the restaurant. You don't even order drinks yet. He's already gone. 5:43. They got him back after a minute. Then 5:43, he takes off, leaves. Walks to his mother's house, which is nearby. And this is fucked up. Begins drinking vegetable oil. Oh, okay. Mom followed him back, realized he was at the house, came in, saw him drinking vegetable oil and stopped him. But he took some, poured it into a bowl, then poured Parmesan cheese on it and drank it all. Yeah, drank it. Okay.

[B]

I guess at the restaurant, they didn't have Wesson.

[A]

They didn't have fucking corn. Yeah. They didn't have canola oil with. With some Parmigiano, Reggiano in it.

[B]

We have Coke, we have Sprite.

[A]

Do you have any Wesson, Anything like that at all? So 6:15pm he returns after his mother drives him back to the restaurant. I think the restaurant's over. Once you're drinking cooking oil with Parmesan in it, you stay here.

[B]

You can't have an appetite after that, right?

[A]

We'll get takeout for you. So she brought him back. Wow. Wade, the dad grabbed his son by the shirt and said, what is wrong with you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So then Austin pulls his fist back and. Which is crazy. And. But then, you know, some. There were people were like, stop, stop, stop. So he stopped. Then he turned and left. Video from the restaurant shows him walking calmly as he exits. About, you know, after this, about an hour, 45 minutes after they got there, and he just starts walking down the road. Okay, okay. He's pushed his father away and ran away. Now his mother calls 911. At that point, Mina, she calls 911 and says that Austin has a pocket knife and a switchblade, is what she's saying. Here's the transcript. She said she calls and stays 911. She says, I don't know how to do this. Well, there's a hole in it. You talk into that part.

[B]

Well, we've started.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You've done fine.

[A]

My son, he's kind of taken off, and I'm concerned about his own safety. I was thinking he's acting a little strange. Dispatcher with a very reasonable question. What do you mean by acting strange?

[B]

Belly full of canola now.

[A]

That's. That's the least weird shit he's done. What do you mean, acting strange? So the mother goes, he says he's immortal and which right away. I'm sending police over right now. I need to get this guy. So then she says, do you know if he's been taking any, any drugs like that or anything like that? Asking the dad on the phone, he says, no, I guess, because she said, I've asked nothing. We said he had no drugs on him. He has no phone. Will say, I think the only thing he has on him is a pocket knife, a switchblade. And then she says, and your name, ma'?

[B]

Am?

[A]

What difference does it make within this? Yeah. So then she says, friends. I'm calling his friends. And they're like, it's just easy. He's changed. So that makes no sense. Hey, everybody, Just gonna take a quick break from the show to tell you how to turn your kids into savers with acorns early.

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[B]

Yeah.

[A]

During this time, he walks about four miles and strips off all of his clothes except for his boxers as he's walking.

[B]

Wow. Do we know does. Does vegetable oil and Parmesan.

[A]

Does that like it gives you a kicking high. Oh, yeah. You trip. You trip hard. You trip hard. Yeah.

[B]

Like petals and Robitussin.

[A]

It was right after coughs. It was right after lean. They were like, yo, you know what? You know, I heard parmigiano, Reggiano.

[B]

You heard a lean. This is called clean.

[A]

And some mozzola is the way to go. That's what I heard. I don't know.

[B]

It burns real clean.

[A]

It's clean. So 9:10pm is when we find him again. Let's introduce Jeffrey Michael Fisher. Jeff Fisher. Yes. Not the coach.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Jeff Fisher, born September 25, 1968. He is a neighbor of John and Michelle in the Garage Mahal neighborhood here. Yeah. He lives at 19009 Southeast Kokomo Lane. Right by them, right next to. Yeah. Now, that night, John was out walking the dog while Michelle was relaxing in their garage as they do watching tv. It's a quiet Monday evening. They're chilling, doing their thing. It's at this time, 9:10, that a 9 11, 911 call from Fisher comes in. They say, what's your emergency? And he screams, please. A medical young man beating up a woman across the street.

[B]

Oh, boy.

[A]

So they say, are either of them injured? Can you tell from where you are? And he says, yes, there's a girl laying on the ground. He beat her up. I ran over there. I'm bleeding profusely here at the moment.

[B]

I am.

[A]

I am. So the dispatcher says, okay, I don't know what happened. Can you tell if she's conscious? And he says, no, it doesn't appear. So. Now there's also other 911 calls from around other houses coming in saying kind of similar things. Here, 9:20pm, 10 minutes later, there's a second call from the same address, same guy. It's Jeff Martin. And he says that he's just been stabbed and the suspect is still there. So 10 minutes later, now he's being stabbed. This man. The police arrive. Now, this is Deputy Grace Zoppf. Said she came in and observed a suspect choking and biting a male who was clearly passed away from his injuries.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Biting his face, eating his face. Observed the suspect wearing a blue shirt and a silky boxers. She pulled her gun out, ordered him to get off of the victim. He continued to bite his face and rip the flesh from the victim.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

Like a fucking Stranger Things monster. Like a fucking Demogorgon, just ripping the shit apart. Crocodile arms were wrapped around the victim while he was biting, Ripping flesh off the face.

[B]

And this is Jeff, the guy that made the phone call.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

Oh, Jeff is another man.

[A]

This is somebody else. So we'll talk about this. Next up, Deputy Wayne Trochan pulls up right after that. And he said, I saw a huge giant trail of blood, probably 8 foot wide, 6ft wide. I ran up the driveway. I saw a male lying on his back at an. On an angle in front of the car. And I saw another male on. On a side mount a grappling hold his legs. He had his legs intertwined, his arm wrapped around the male. And he had his fingers like a fish hook in his mouth, Pulling his face, trying to pull his cheek apart.

[B]

Oh my word.

[A]

He said, the suspect had his fingers in his mouth. The dog grabbed his arm. They got a police dog, grabbed the suspect's arm, pulled it off the suspect, ripped it out of the dog's mouth and went in for a deeper hold.

[B]

Does not care.

[A]

Ignore. Just fuck off of me. Keeps going. Yeah, okay. He then said, I'm seeing a slit from under his arm to his waist. Talking about the victim. Seven to eight inches wide. I seen his ribs, I seen a huge hole in his side. The cops said, this, this is John and Michelle. He's attacked in their own garage. He said he was chewing on John Stevens cheek, Tearing at it like a dog.

[B]

What is going on?

[A]

So they end up the dog has no effect. It latches on, gets him off, Continues doing this. They tase him. Nothing happens, does nothing, ignores.

[B]

He has got shit in him.

[A]

Ignored it, Completely ignored it. And then when they finally kind of pull him off, he's screaming, quote, fucking kill me. Fucking kill me. Shoot me now. I deserve to die. That's what Austin's screaming now. When they were trying to tase him, the one deputy said, based on the angle of the shot, I told her, meaning the other officer, to stop and wait. I ran around her back and I pulled my taser out and popped him in the back with a taser. I didn't want the other officer taking a shot. The way he was grappled up into him, there was no good shot. It would have went into the victim. So then the officer said to get him off, he had to stomp and kick Austin in the head several times. Like six or seven times. Just had to call off and boot this motherfucker in the head. Wow, it's wild. So they get him sort of subdued and they check Michelle. And the one officer says about the other one, he ran in, checked her pulse and gave me a shake of the head. No, no. Holy shit. They were trying to handcuff him, but he was. They were overpowered by him. So that's when the other officer came over and started kicking him in the fucking head. So apparently what happened here? Austin walked up to the garage, saw the door was open, doesn't know these people. Just happened to wander into this neighborhood. Saw them sitting there and just started stabbing the fuck out of everybody.

[B]

Oh, my.

[A]

Just started stabbing them. And once he had them down from stab wounds, multiple stab wounds, he started trying to eat their faces. Wow. Okay. Now that's not even the weird part. No, you'd think the random attack, face eating, that's the weird part. The weird part is sometime in the middle of this attack, because remember, there's 10 minutes going on from the 901 calls, he stopped in the middle of this, found some kind of solvent, chemical cleaning agent in the garage and started drinking it. Just started chugging on it and then went back to eating faces.

[B]

Do we know what it was?

[A]

We don't know exactly what it was. He drank a bottle of something. Now, later on he'll say that he thought he drank a bottle of alcohol or something. He thought it was booze, but it was really not even some garage thing. It was really some brake cleaner, some fucking. Yeah, some industrial solvent, some kind of floor epoxy or something. He's drinking. So, yeah, then he began chewing faces off. Now, the medical examiners say that John Stevens died from multiple injuries and Michelle died from blunt force trauma injuries. They conducted autopsies and said multiple stab wounds to Jeff. To John, or, I'm sorry, Jeff Fisher as well. The neighbor was attacked when he tried to go over there. He had multiple stab wounds, one large cut to his head that caused bleeding and multiple staples. A puncture wound to his lower back also required exploratory surgery to his stomach due to bleeding and a broken thumb.

[B]

Oh, my.

[A]

So he's lucky to be alive. Savagely attacked at the scene. They recover. There's blood throughout the garage and driveway. Multiple weapons. Found the knife he brought, as well as a machete and scissors from the garage.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Human flesh pulled from his mouth. Yeah, that's evidence. He swallowed some of the face.

[B]

A mouthful of his face.

[A]

He was eating it. It's horrifying. So he's subdued and transported to the hospital because he's been beaten and tased and bit and everything else. At the hospital, they said they noted his abnormal strength and growling en route to the place he was growling. Then he became incoherent and groaning, saying, I ate something bad. And they asked what? And he said, quote, humans. Okay. At the hospital, he's initially conscious, but then deteriorates due to organ failure from drinking whatever he drank. Cleaning fluids. Yeah, you can't drink that. So also physical trauma that he's taken and everything else here. It's chemical poisoning from something. The substance caused severe chemical burns to his esophagus, throat and stomach lining. This led to inflammation, internal bleeding, systemic toxicity. Also symptoms of acute poisoning, including labored breathing and unresponsiveness. Okay. Now he ends up with liver failure and multiple organ failures. They said toxic overload, impaired detoxification, leading to elevated enzymes and metabolic acidosis.

[B]

Holy shit.

[A]

Kidney failure, acute renal injury from dehydration, toxicity and shock. Well, he was trying to drink.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wild and burned airways necessitated intubation and mechanical ventilation. He goes into a coma.

[B]

Oh, my God. We're not going to get answers, so.

[A]

Oh, we are. Don't you worry. It's happened. And we got very little time to get into him, but we will. So his dad said that Austin is not doing well and remains hospitalized. This is for weeks. He said that he's killed two people. That he heard from his son that he's killed two people and eaten them. Or that's what the cops told him. He said the cops came in at 2 o' clock in the morning and knocked on his door. He thought Austin was dead.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they showed him pictures and said, yeah, he killed two people and ate them. The blood you're seeing there isn't his. That's theirs, Somebody else's. He said he was stunned. His dad said he's always been the nicest, kindest, caring kid I've ever seen. He always wanted to help people. He was always great. I called him the happy boy. Right then he said when he wakes up, he's not going to be able to believe this, but he will deal with it. I want to talk to him because he will tell the story even if he is guilty. Wow. He said his sons had mental breakdowns. He said that during. The cop said that during this he was very dehydrated and wanted something to drink and all that kind of thing. So they asked him about drugs. Has he been using drugs? And he said, I don't think he did use drugs. I guess we'll find out when the test comes back. Now, the police are suspecting, like, a bath salt situation because this has happened before with people eating faces on bath salts. But they find zero drugs in his system.

[B]

He did this sober.

[A]

A barely a trace of thc. So from days ago, smoking something, but not nothing in his system that we parmesan did this. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. No alcohol. They said the only alcohol is probably from the solvent that he drank. The trace amount that was there, very bad. John's the daughter of the victim, Called him a murderer, a monster and a coward and said, I would like to see Austin come out of this, make a full recovery, and I hope he has zero brain damage. I hope he's 100% to face the consequences. I think that's a little forgiving, if you want to put it that way. The frat releases a statement.

[B]

Oh, we didn't do this.

[A]

The Alpha Delta fraternity and its members learned about this this morning of the horrific attack on three individuals at their home in Jupiter. We offer thoughts and prayers as well as our deepest sympathy to the family of the victims. We will cooperate fully with Florida State University and law enforcement officials as requested in their investigations. We are also focused on the health and well being of our members. Okay, great.

[B]

So we're gonna give nothing.

[A]

Wow. So he's in a coma for 11 days.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

In critical condition for weeks after that. But as soon as he emerges from the coma, the thing he has to do is talk to Dr. Phil from his hospital bed.

[B]

Really?

[A]

That's very important to him. He's not arrested till October 3, when he's ready to be discharged from the hospital.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So they.

[B]

Somebody searched all of his socials, found the Oprah references, and told him. Right.

[A]

I guess this is also just a crazy story. I mean, yeah, one of the two. So he's charged with two counts of first degree murder, attempted first degree murder, resisting officer without violence, burglary of a dwelling while armed, and all that. So physical evidence, his shirt, his boxers covered in blood, his knife, weapons from the garage used an attack. Flesh from his mouth with his DNA on it.

[B]

Gross.

[A]

Yeah, the neighbor said that Jeffrey. A neighbor said Jeffrey stated to me that's the neighbor victim. The suspect told him, you don't want to. You don't want to do this. You don't want any part of this. The suspect then struck Jeffrey on the side of the head and continued to hit Jeffrey. Holy shit. You don't want any part of this. Now Austin's dad on Dr. Phil, they say. What do you say to their family? Dr. Phil asks. And Wade says, it's the worst thing I could ever think of. It's the biggest nightmare I could dream of. He's such a good person. He would never knowingly do something like that. Now, Austin, they talked to him on there, and. Yeah. He says, I didn't ever do anything to anyone consciously. And I. You know, he's going on this type of thing now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm going to show you a clip here real quick.

[B]

Oh, boy.

[A]

Of him on Dr. Phil. Because it's the worst crying I've ever seen in my life.

[B]

Crying at us.

[A]

It is wild here.

[B]

It is Dr. Phil or him?

[A]

Oh, that's not the right one. Yeah. Dr. Phil's fake crime. That's what that would sound like. Okay, so we'll go to. Here.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So everyone can hear.

[B]

Looks privileged as fuck, doesn't he?

[A]

If their family members are watching this.

[B]

Right now, what do you say to them?

[A]

Look into the camera right now.

[B]

And if they're watching, what do you say to them?

[A]

I'm sorry for their loss. And I hope that you can find it in your heart to forgive me. And I'm so sorry. And I never wanted this to happen. That's not. That's not me. That's him.

[B]

Hell, yeah. Why?

[A]

There's no tears coming out of his eyes.

[B]

Not a drop.

[A]

Nothing.

[B]

Why is he doing this? I just don't know how to.

[A]

Dad told him to put it into words. You're a dick hole. How about that for words? There you go. That's his response. So.

[B]

Holy hell.

[A]

He expressed confusions about his actions. He also talked about a tall, pale figure that was following him. Don't know if that's Daniel or what, but.

[B]

Slenderman. Yeah.

[A]

He said, I guess there was something seriously wrong with me. I never wanted to hurt anybody. He thought Michelle Stevens, he said, was a witch who would harm him. The wife he killed. He claimed to have a patchy memory of the events. He said he was escaping a demon called Daniel and only had vague recollections. He said he remembers encountering Michelle. She screamed, then it's a blur. He said, I don't remember what she said, just remember being yelled at. He said he grabbed a machete, but doesn't know why he killed her and her husband. He said, it's like it happened, but I wasn't aware of it. And he said he thought the chemicals he drank were alcoholic beverages. Oh, boy. There was tons of beer in that garage. And I'm sure booze too. Now in media right away. He's given lots of nicknames, like the cannibal frat boy and my favorite, the frat boy face eater, which is a good one. I'd add Happy, the fat boy, Face eater to that. Happy boy, Happy boy, the face eater. He makes hundreds of calls. And to his family from jail. He has romantic relationships with women while in jail.

[B]

What?

[A]

Awaiting? Sure, yeah. Somehow chicks think they dig this. I don't know. That's wild. These do. Anyway, he family members reported he showed little remorse. He referred to the victims as, quote, those fucking people and calls. He became romantically involved with one woman he met through correspondence and through jail correspondence. He said he was initially drawn to her because he believed they shared strong Christian beliefs. You know, and face eating. And that's one of the tenets of Christianity, right? Face eating and chemical drinking. I think that's right there in the Bible.

[B]

What the fuck?

[A]

The relationship lasted eight months.

[B]

Really?

[A]

However, it ended after discovering unspecified details about her that troubled him. He dumped her. Cause he found out stuff he didn't like. Did she ever eat anybody's face? One recorded call with his mother after they broke up. He said he felt a lot better now that she's gone and saying he was really happy and excited at the start of this whole thing and it deteriorated. But he said that she kept writing to him and trying to reconcile and all that kind of thing.

[B]

Good lord.

[A]

Court is delayed because of COVID Somehow it goes to 2020, after he's sick and out of the hospital and all that kind of thing. 2021, he's diagnosed. Several psychiatric experts diagnose him with psychotic features. Bipolar disorder with acute manic episodes and clinical lycanthropathy. Lycanthropy. Believing oneself to be part animal.

[B]

Oh yeah, he does. Yeah, he believes he's howling.

[A]

Well, he moved it to half man, half dog. Now, not horse.

[B]

Oh no, he's half dog.

[A]

He's half dog, which is nice. Again, we don't know which half is immortal. We're not sure. This is. The state and the defense experts both agree on his psychiatric evaluation. He has manic episodes, psychotic features, everything. He thought that he could, quote, run super fast, was unable to distinguish right from wrong and believed that other dogs hair was attaching to his face like, attaching, like rooting itself in his face. And he said he had special powers like an animal and wow. The state expert said he meets the criteria for legal insanity. The state expert said that he's paid to never say that.

[B]

And he Said that this guy's too much for us.

[A]

Said he has a decompensated mental state and recommended involuntary commitment. So, yes, he will plead not guilty by reason of insanity and it makes a lot of sense. And they're going to accept the insanity to plea and really find him. Yeah. It's a plea agreement for not guilty by reason of insanity.

[B]

So what do we do with that?

[A]

He entered this plea. It's a last minute plea agreement to avoid a bench trial. During the victim impact, the. The daughter. The victim's daughter read off tons of his text messages from the year before. The ones I was reading. That's where that came from.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

His text messages, his videos. She went over everything and she said four words come to mind. White rich boy justice. I think it should have been rich white boy justice if you wanted to flow. But you're a victim and you're probably overwhelmed by the situation. So referenced the father buying him the murder weapon. Said he showed no remorse in jail. Phone calls, read the transcripts of those and said, here we are opening the prison doors for a double murderer, letting him out. The judge said, quote, in this case, the defense and the state have agreed to this particular outcome, I'm sure based on all the facts and circumstances they had. It's a sad case. It's an awful case. Nobody's losing sight, I tell you. I know I'm not. Of the deaths and injuries that were sustained. But when it all gets said and done, the state and the defense have made the determination that the mental intent was not formulated. It wasn't there. Therefore, the defendant is technically not guilty by reason of insanity. You dog boy may fuck off. Sent to indefinite commitment to a secure mental health facility in Chattahoochee. And he has periodic every six month reviews to check on his and annual reviews. Oh my God. Not to release him, to get his.

[B]

Status to check on him. Who's a happy boy? They've got to fuck with him for the next forever. Like this.

[A]

Forever. Yeah. They said also no lasting organ damage from drinking chemicals. But his mental health needs a lot of treatment. He remains committed as of right now with nothing else to say. So there you go, everybody.

[B]

Holy shit.

[A]

That's the quest of Florida and some crazy shit. Wow. We gotta get through the end super quick. Definitely head over to shutupandgivemerder.com. get your tickets. October, I believe 18th. It's a Saturday. We're in Seattle at the Moore. Get your tickets for that. Let's sell that bad boy out. Shut up and givememurder.com While you're there, Virtual live show Thursday before Halloween. Just like a regular live show. You're in your living room, we're in costumes and you can have it for two weeks afterwards. You can watch it as much as you want. Do whatever you want with it or buy it somewhere in there. Do whatever you want. Shut up and getmemurder.com patreon.com crimeinsports all the bonus episodes you could possibly want. New ones every other week. This week for Small Town Murder we're going to do history of executions in the us. You also get crime and sports and you also get ad free and you also get a shout out at the end of the show. Patreon.com CrimeInSports want to follow us on social media? First of all, the show Smalltown Murder on Instagram, Small Town Pot on Facebook. You want to follow us? Shut up and givememurder.com has drop down menus take you where you want to go. Thank you so much everybody. It's been crazy and until next week, it's been our pleasure.

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Bye.

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