"Marcus Mumford"

Summary

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SmartLess Podcast: "Marcus Mumford"

Hosts: Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett
Guest: Marcus Mumford (Mumford & Sons)
Date: July 27, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode’s central theme is a warm and thoroughly entertaining exploration of Marcus Mumford’s musical journey, creative process, personal growth, and the delicate balance between fame, family, and artistry. The trio (Bateman, Arnett, Hayes) unspool Marcus’s backstory, probe the realities of life in a globally successful band, and digress into candid talk about marriage, parenthood, vulnerability, and the ever-present perils (and joys) of live performance, all while maintaining SmartLess’s trademark blend of irreverence and intimacy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mystery Guest Reveal and First Impressions

• The hosts joke through an extended cold open, eventually leading to Jason’s clues and Will guessing Marcus as the guest.
  • [07:15] Will Arnett correctly guesses Marcus Mumford:

    Will: "No, no, it's Marcus Mumford."
    Jason: "Bingo. Get out."

• Marcus reflects on being an early fan of SmartLess and the secrecy around the show’s guest format.
  • [09:03] Marcus: “They freaked me out... they were like, don’t breathe until the reveal.”

2. Backstage Etiquette: Should You Say Hi?

• The group debates whether it’s polite or presumptuous for famous attendees to go backstage at shows.
  • [10:54] Marcus: “If someone has helped you with the ticket… it is rude to leave without saying great show.”
• Cultural differences in music vs. theater regarding post-show greetings, with Marcus highlighting:
  • [11:18] “Culturally, very different in music… very different.”
• Anecdote: Marcus was summoned backstage by Kendrick Lamar at Bonnaroo only to find Kendrick mid-costume change, leading to jokes about confidence and comfort.

3. Marcus & Carey Mulligan: Pen Pals to Partners

• The hosts discuss Marcus’s marriage to actress Carey Mulligan.
  • [15:41] Marcus: “Yeah, we met at Bible camp. I was 10, she was 12… we were pen pals.”
• Carey’s journal entry from their first meeting:
  • [16:01] “My cousin… got an eight out of ten. But I... got a nine out of ten. Go figure.”

4. On Music, Influences, and Band Dynamics

• Early musical inspiration:

  • [20:01] Marcus: "My mum listened to a lot of music… I was allowed access to her vinyl collection early on."
  • Notably: Bob Dylan's "Blood on the Tracks," The Animals’ "House of the Rising Sun," Bruce Springsteen’s greatest hits.

• Varied tastes among bandmates create Mumford & Sons’ expansive sound:

  • [21:09] Marcus: “We’ve always felt like whatever instruments suit the song that we’re writing at the time.”

• Marcus’s path: original school instrument was drums, leading eventually to being Laura Marling’s session drummer and dropping out of college for music.

5. The Evolution of Listening: Musicians vs. Fans

• Marcus explains how being a musician inherently changes your relationship to music:
  • [29:04] “If music’s on, I want to lean in and listen… I can’t switch that part of my brain off.”
• The “background music” problem at home; Carey Mulligan prefers silence, lest Marcus disappear into the song.

6. Finding New Music in the Digital Age

• Marcus’s habit of finding new bands through TikTok and recommendations while on tour:

  • [30:18] “Some of my favorite music I found on TikTok when I was on it.”
  • Cites British band Divorce as an example—discovered on TikTok and then brought on tour.

• Marcus staying off social media during album releases to insulate himself:

  • [31:14] “This is the first time I’ve ever put a record out where I genuinely have not read a word about it.”

7. Success, Fame, and Its Personal Impact

• Experience of massive success post-“Babel” (Grammy win, headlining big festivals, etc.):

  • [37:47] “We started playing music ’cause we loved playing… then suddenly we were playing 250 shows a year.”
  • [39:48] “I wasn’t really prepared for the success of that record… we reacted to it by making a record that no one was expecting from us.”

• Dealing with fame’s pressures and its effect on mental health:

  • [41:00] “It drove a bit of my shame narrative that was already there… I drank a bit more than I should have.”
  • Marcus stopped drinking, replaced it (briefly) with ice cream—hosts joke about post-booze sugar cravings.

8. Craft, Technique, and Physical Demands of Touring

• On vocal technique and preserving the voice:

  • [44:02] “I was convinced for years that whiskey and cigarettes really helped… Brandi Carlile introduced me to her vocal coach, totally changed my world.”
  • [45:04] “Now I have a full routine and I look after it and I quit smoking.”

• The athleticism of performing:

  • [52:17] “Got to a point a couple years ago, I was like, there is an element of physicality to my job… I’ve been working on that and trying to approach it more like an athletics program.”

• Behind the scenes: pre-tour training, gym routines, body prep for long tours.

9. Family and Parenthood

• How being a parent reshapes his life:
  • [61:25] “It’s been a wonderful antidote to my narcissism… can’t be the center of your universe with these little ones around.”
  • Being present: schedules tours for work-life balance, relishes time at home (“the school run the morning after”).
  • [63:00] “When I get to go and do my work… I’m in this season of gratitude with the band.”

10. Live Show Mishaps

• Marcus shares an on-stage fail:
  • [58:29] "We played a song for the first time, and it went so badly wrong… we stopped halfway through and didn’t start the song again."
  • [58:48] “I said, that's live music, folks. And we moved on. I wanted to fall through the floor.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments (w/ Timestamps)

• Hosts banter about hairdressers and personal grooming (03:00–05:00)
• Marcus on Carey Mulligan’s first concert review:
  • [15:59] “She thought we were quite shouty… But she’s put up with it for a long time.”
• On the value of poetry & classics:
  • [35:51] “It’s how I got introduced to poetry, it’s how I fell in love with words, honestly.”
• On imposter syndrome, coping, and marriage:
  • [41:32] “Throughout it all, honestly, my marriage has just been the best thing about everything.”
• Vocal warm-ups:
  • [50:43] Marcus: “Yeah, I do. It’s called the penguin noise… and then vocal straws. The straw helps with back pressure.”
• Parenting and perspective:
  • [61:25] “It’s been a wonderful antidote to my narcissism… it puts everything in perspective in such a helpful way for me.”

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Memorable & Fun Moments

• Running joke: Will and Jason pretending to be neighbors with views of each other’s scaffolding.
• Multiple references to notorious show mishaps and celebrity backstage encounters (Madonna & Kevin Costner, Kendrick Lamar stripping down).
• Marcus on the “Hopeless Wanderer” video with Sudeikis, Forte, Bateman, and Ed Helms, expressing his joy at not having to appear in it.
• Marcus and the hosts swap stories about forgetting lines or lyrics live—Sean’s “on-stage save” during a play.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------|-------------| | Mystery Guest Reveal | 07:15–08:05 | | Backstage Etiquette | 10:04–13:20 | | Marcus & Carey Mulligan Story | 15:41–16:48 | | Musical Influences & Instruments | 20:01–22:00 | | Music Appreciation for Musicians | 29:04–29:40 | | Finding New Music, TikTok | 30:18–31:14 | | Handling Success (“Babel”) | 37:21–40:49 | | Coping with Fame & Booze | 41:00–42:59 | | On Voice Care & Warming Up | 44:02–45:33 | | Parenting & Artistic Perspective | 61:25–63:34 | | On-Stage Flubs | 58:29–59:11 |

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains SmartLess’s signature casual and comedic rapport, blending behind-the-scenes insights with genuine affection and self-deprecating humor. Marcus’s British wit and openness complement the hosts’ banter, creating a cozy, honest, and inviting vibe throughout.

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Conclusion

This episode is a rewarding listen for both Mumford & Sons fans and listeners interested in the crossroads of artistry, vulnerability, and family. Marcus Mumford’s humility, candor, and deep love for music—and his family—shine through, as do the moments of laughter, insight, and mutual respect among the group.

Highly recommended segment:
The discussion of backstage etiquette and the Madonna/Costner story is a quotable highlight ([11:54–12:29]), as is Marcus describing how family has profoundly grounded and refocused his life ([61:25–63:00]).

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For listeners who missed it, this summary offers the essential wisdom, warmth, and wisdom of a stand-out SmartLess episode.

Transcript

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[Jason Bateman]

Super hot. Sticky.

[Sean Hayes]

It's really hot. You kiss. You just sweat looking at it.

[Will Arnett]

I'm just so hot right now.

[Sean Hayes]

It's so gross.

[Jason Bateman]

Hey. What? Is there a back end to your jokes? You started Ch. Just want to say hi. It's hot outside. What kind of cold open is this?

[Sean Hayes]

It's a hot open. Welcome to Smartless.

[Will Arnett]

Smart.

[Jason Bateman]

Less.

[Will Arnett]

Smart.

[Sean Hayes]

Lar.

[Will Arnett]

Smart.

[Jason Bateman]

Let us.

[Will Arnett]

Jb. I'm across the street from you.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, no, I know. I see. So wait, so you're up top, right?

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, all the way up top. I'm up top. Did you ask. What was the question?

[Jason Bateman]

Sorry. Yeah. Okay, so I think I can. I can. I can see you. You can see me? I. My window.

[Sean Hayes]

Wait, are you being serious?

[Will Arnett]

You can see the sc. Can you see the scaffolding?

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. What's going on up there? Are we doing.

[Will Arnett]

You see like a bag on the Scaffolding that's blowing in the wind?

[Jason Bateman]

No, because I'm on the south side of the building. South side of your building?

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's on the.

[Marcus Mumford]

On the.

[Will Arnett]

On the south side of the building. Way up there. There's like a little black bag.

[Jason Bateman]

No, because the whole building is netted, so I don't see that.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, you don't see through the netting?

[Jason Bateman]

No, I don't. Anywh. Who. So we're neighbors. We've never lived closer to one another, actually. No, that. When you lived in my house with me and my wife.

[Will Arnett]

That was so fun.

[Jason Bateman]

Why does my youngest daughter look so much like you?

[Will Arnett]

This is before the kids and the. God, your floors are so creaky. And I was just always like at night, just like. I didn't want to make a sound as snuck around cigarettes.

[Jason Bateman]

I was smoking back then too though, wasn't I?

[Will Arnett]

You sure were.

[Jason Bateman]

Hey, why is your hair so cut?

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, I just had a little trimsky.

[Jason Bateman]

Is Eli with you right now?

[Will Arnett]

No, I didn't see Eli. I went to see my boy. My guy, Kevin. Woon. Do you get.

[Jason Bateman]

Are you in a fight with Eli?

[Will Arnett]

No, no, I just haven't seen Eli and.

[Jason Bateman]

What happened to Eli and you?

[Sean Hayes]

No.

[Will Arnett]

Well, I love Eli. You know, I feel like.

[Jason Bateman]

So wait now Sean. Sean also has a personal hairdresser.

[Will Arnett]

Sean, who's your. You've got a new person. Who's your person?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, his name is Marco.

[Jason Bateman]

Hashtag relatable. You both have personal hairdressers?

[Sean Hayes]

No, it's the.

[Will Arnett]

No, it's not personal. It's like full time employment, you jerk.

[Sean Hayes]

Kind of not on the payroll. No.

[Will Arnett]

Who. Who cuts your hair?

[Jason Bateman]

Whoever is heading the hair department on whatever project I'm working.

[Will Arnett]

That's such a lie.

[Jason Bateman]

As a matter of fact, she just left the apartment. She is the key hairdresser on the.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh no. Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

And she came over to the house.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. So that's.

[Will Arnett]

She did. You're not even in the cast this time. You're the director. So she had to come. The director said I am doing.

[Sean Hayes]

That's so icky.

[Will Arnett]

Who's high polluting? I'm doing.

[Jason Bateman]

I'm doing one small scene.

[Will Arnett]

The directorifies his legs are broken so he couldn't come to me. So I had to go to the director's apartment down in Fancy park to Manhattan.

[Sean Hayes]

Okay.

[Jason Bateman]

So Sean, you're enjoying your new hairdresser?

[Sean Hayes]

I am. He's really, really good. Marcos.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

So much so that you. You won't take Your hat off?

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, take your hat off. Let's see what it's doing.

[Sean Hayes]

Well, it's just, you know, look back on.

[Jason Bateman]

Back on.

[Sean Hayes]

Like Will said, I look like a page boy.

[Will Arnett]

I didn't say that. I just said it.

[Sean Hayes]

Look, on Saturday night, you said I look like a page boy. And I said. And I said. Were you going for what? Scientist? Mad scientist. Because your hair.

[Will Arnett]

My hair. When my hair was longer, because it was sticky, it was all sticking out. And you said. Did you say. You said. Did you just say to them, give me the mad scientist?

[Sean Hayes]

Yes.

[Jason Bateman]

And so, Will, you've got a.

[Will Arnett]

That's why I cut my hair. Because Sean shamed me.

[Jason Bateman]

Is that true or is it just like a summer sort of. Or you. Is it swim team?

[Sean Hayes]

It looks good short like that.

[Jason Bateman]

Will, you know what? I can't believe that you would habitually chew gum on a podcast.

[Will Arnett]

I know. I mean, I'm nervous.

[Jason Bateman]

Just. He just.

[Will Arnett]

It wasn't. But by the way, it's not loud the way I'm doing it.

[Jason Bateman]

You've gotten better at that, but it still sneaks through. And I'll bet you I'll speak for Robin Bennett right here. It's getting annoying having to mute your microphone every once in a while.

[Will Arnett]

Bennett. Rob, tell me, is it true? We tidy it up.

[Jason Bateman]

You know what?

[Will Arnett]

You know what?

[Jason Bateman]

Nicotine addiction.

[Will Arnett]

I have a special relationship with Bennett

[Jason Bateman]

Rub, who may love me and nicotine.

[Will Arnett]

You know what?

[Jason Bateman]

Our coffee chat's real hyper today. I. I think it's my fault.

[Sean Hayes]

It is. I love it.

[Will Arnett]

I'm having one now, too. I'm having the rare 1pm coffee.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, we're in the real Regis and Kathie Lee areas.

[Will Arnett]

We're lucky. Lucky to be associated.

[Jason Bateman]

All right, do you want to get on with it?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

I mean, I don't know. Do you want to tee up your intro?

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. How about you guys? How about. Let's have. Let's have an official guess session here.

[Sean Hayes]

Okay?

[Jason Bateman]

You guys can guess it. All right.

[Will Arnett]

Okay, great.

[Jason Bateman]

Joining our nonsense today is a fellow who's not yet 40, but is already approaching the 20 year mark with his band. Okay? They are Grammy winners. They are known and loved worldwide. He was born in California, but raised in England. He's got three children with his wife who has been a guest on this very podcast.

[Sean Hayes]

I know who it is.

[Jason Bateman]

Let's fucking hear it.

[Sean Hayes]

It's Chris Martin.

[Will Arnett]

No, no, It's Marcus Mumford.

[Jason Bateman]

Bingo. Get out.

[Will Arnett]

That for guessing.

[Sean Hayes]

How did you know that?

[Jason Bateman]

Because he's a smart person, Marcus. I Liked my hints. Can I. Can I get on with my.

[Will Arnett]

Were terrible. I didn't know he was born in California.

[Jason Bateman]

Well, but I said his band sounds like a family law firm specializing in personal injury.

[Sean Hayes]

You didn't even say personal injury.

[Will Arnett]

It does sound like. It sounds like a plumbing company does.

[Jason Bateman]

But that was. That was on purpose, right, Marcus?

[Will Arnett]

No, But. But Marcus, I knew. I was just talking about. I'm so excited for the doc, and I was just talking about you 10 minutes ago. So excited to come and see it.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

Are you gonna come?

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, man.

[Marcus Mumford]

Are you gonna come? Oh, sweet.

[Jason Bateman]

Just down the street. I might. I might. I might be working, but I might be able to make it. I think my wife will be there, which. That's all anybody ever cares about.

[Will Arnett]

She's my date.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

Have you ever guessed a guest from their laugh before they've done the reveal? Because I was really. They freaked me out, man. Your guys freaked me out. They were like, don't breathe.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, really?

[Marcus Mumford]

Until the reveal.

[Will Arnett]

Wait.

[Marcus Mumford]

And I wanted to laugh because you're very funny.

[Jason Bateman]

Did they make you think that we're like, that we're. That we were prone to rage, like, if we hear.

[Marcus Mumford]

No, they just. No, they made me feel, you know, in a very polite way, like I would ruin the entire show if I. If I squeezed.

[Jason Bateman]

The whole surprise thing is so. It's such a waste. It just saves us from doing homework. And the audience already knows who it is. We're the only two dicks that don't know who the guest is by the time the episode is up.

[Will Arnett]

How dare you refer to me as the dick. But listen, it's fun. We're having fun. Okay, Jason, look into it. Okay, Marcus, welcome to Smartless.

[Marcus Mumford]

It's time. Yeah, I'm so. I'm genuinely so on. I was early on Smartless. I was very early.

[Will Arnett]

You came. You came to the show in la. I remember you and I, we went to an early screening of Maestro together. I did.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

And you said. And it was right after our show. And you said. I came to the show and I said in. I was so surprised.

[Marcus Mumford]

It was the night you guys were filming, and it was really hectic.

[Will Arnett]

Wait, was it.

[Jason Bateman]

You mean, like, show? Oh, oh, oh, in the. In the dock.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one. The one downtown. Yeah, yeah. At the theater. I can't remember what it's called.

[Jason Bateman]

Orphan.

[Marcus Mumford]

And I didn't want to bother you because it was super hectic. But, yes, I came to the show, and I've been. But I've been listening to your show for a very long time.

[Will Arnett]

It's crazy.

[Jason Bateman]

We're ready for notes. Do you have any notes? What would you have?

[Marcus Mumford]

Coffee notes. Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

How would you change?

[Will Arnett]

We're looking to improve.

[Marcus Mumford]

Well, the hair shit was a low point, I think.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah. It's all low points. What we do is we establish the bar low early. Right.

[Jason Bateman]

Just to make the gas.

[Will Arnett]

Everything feels like a win.

[Sean Hayes]

The only way is up.

[Marcus Mumford]

I love it. It's just very cozy. I love it.

[Will Arnett]

I tell you something, Marcus. What's interesting, you brought up something, and we're about to tap into a runner thematically, is that you told me that you were at the show. And I vaguely remember at the time sort of saying, I wish you had said hi. And then you just mentioned it was hectic and you didn't want to say hi, you to our show and didn't come backstage and say hi. Jason has thoughts on this.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, hold on, hold on. This is. We're not talking Broadway theater.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Marcus Mumford]

Right.

[Jason Bateman]

I need your opinion on this.

[Marcus Mumford]

It's adjacent. I went to see. Do you know who I went to see last week in Exeter was Tim Key. Now, do you know Tim Key? He's one of my favorite comics of all time. I think he's a genius. And I went and watched his show and was about to leave and thought to myself, now he knows I'm here. He helped with the tickets. It is rude to leave.

[Jason Bateman]

Well, that's different.

[Marcus Mumford]

If someone has helped you with the ticket.

[Jason Bateman]

Amen.

[Marcus Mumford]

Without saying a great show.

[Jason Bateman]

But so how about this, right? So you are a musician, and you are in live venues and theaters, and

[Will Arnett]

so you got it set up.

[Jason Bateman]

There are some famous people that come see your shows a lot. Here we go. Does the same rule apply there? Do you. Are you aware who's in there? Are you offended if they don't come back and say, hey, great show.

[Marcus Mumford]

Culturally, very different in music.

[Jason Bateman]

Very different.

[Marcus Mumford]

Very different.

[Jason Bateman]

See, so more of a. I'm more of a rock and roll guy at heart, guys, than.

[Marcus Mumford]

Wait, what's your position, Jason? Are you a no show? Are you a no show at the show?

[Jason Bateman]

I think it's presumptuous for people in the audience who are famous or even pseudo famous to think that, oh, they'll be welcome backstage just because you share fame. That's also my idea to, like, come say hi. It's like. It's so arrogant. Like, just get the hell out and let the.

[Marcus Mumford]

It's more like, you probably want to see me. Cause I'm really famous. So I'll bless you with my presence

[Jason Bateman]

and let you know how great I think you were.

[Will Arnett]

Well.

[Marcus Mumford]

Or not. Or talk about how great the program was or the light. Or find something polite to say.

[Sean Hayes]

There's that. There's that famous clip from the Madonna documentary Truth or Dare, when Kevin Costner comes backstage. Did you see that? And he goes, yeah, I thought. And she just spent three hours, you know, she's drenched in sweat, you know, performing for 5,000 people. And he goes. He says, yeah, we thought it was really neat. And she turns to the camera, she goes, anybody who calls my show neat has got to go right in front of him. No, he left. And she goes, ah. Like that on camera.

[Marcus Mumford]

My favorite backstage moment like that, when I was invited, very explicitly invited backstage, was after Kendrick Lamar played Bonnaroo. And there was this sort of message that came down from on high that Kendrick would. Kendrick would like to see you. And when Kendrick calls, you come.

[Jason Bateman]

Right.

[Sean Hayes]

Because he's the girl. Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

I learned that lesson the hard way.

[Marcus Mumford]

And. And it was. And it was like, you can go in now. And. And. And he took off almost all of his clothes as I walked in. It was amazing.

[Will Arnett]

Sounds more like bonerous.

[Jason Bateman]

We'll be right back after these messages.

[Marcus Mumford]

Well, it was. It was amazing. And I thought, like, the gump. The gumption, you know, the gumption to be like, yeah, come on back after the show. And it'll be the very moment when I take all my clothes off and I'm just down to my undies.

[Will Arnett]

It's confident.

[Marcus Mumford]

We'll have a chat.

[Sean Hayes]

I don't know. I have real confidence, but aren't you comfortable with that? Like, even on a TV set or a film set or whatever, people knock on my trailer door. I'm like, come in. I'm dressing. I don't care.

[Jason Bateman]

It is a dressing room.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Will Arnett]

You know, Marcus, you bring up Tim Kee, whom I also adore, and he did that incredible film with your wife, the Ballad of Wallace island, which I love that film.

[Marcus Mumford]

I did, too.

[Will Arnett]

Brilliant, Brilliant film. Wasn't it? We're not gonna get into Carrie's career, but it.

[Marcus Mumford]

I mean, good, because I haven't seen a lot of it, but that one, I've seen three times. I love that one so much.

[Will Arnett]

So. Me too, you guys. I urge anybody to see the Ballad of Wallace Island. It's such a beautiful little film. It's so funny and poignant and just amazing, beautiful, beautiful film.

[Marcus Mumford]

Well, I got so into Tim's podcast. He's got, like, a Radio 4. It's not a podcast. It's a radio show in the uk on public radio. And I got so deeply into it in Covid that when he wrote to Cary with a script, I was like, you absolutely have to do this movie. He's. Him and Tom Basdon together are phenomenal.

[Will Arnett]

Tom Basdon's amazing, too.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, amazing.

[Sean Hayes]

And just for my sister. Your wife is Carey Mulligan. Just so for Tracy, my sister, in case she's.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah. Hi, Tracy.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, Tracy almost crashed. She was trying to look cool, you know.

[Jason Bateman]

Hey, Siri.

[Will Arnett]

Who is Marcus pulling into Kohler, Wisconsin, with her phone in her head.

[Jason Bateman]

Wait, so Marcus, getting back to that for one quick second. She can't possibly see all your shows because you. You're playing almost every night.

[Marcus Mumford]

No, she actually broke her record.

[Jason Bateman]

So are you allowed to not see all of hers?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, yeah, she came on tour, I think she. In one year maybe, was at 48 shows and watched two. Not the whole thing. Top and tail. Yeah, she really, you know, she says she likes our band, our recorded music. There's some caveats. The first time she saw our band play, she thought we were quite shouty. And to be fair, I think she's right about that. But then, you know, she's put up with it for a long time. But then. Yeah, she. She doesn't feel like if she's on the road, she has to come to every show.

[Will Arnett]

Wait, Marcus, did you guys meet at summer camp? Am I right about that?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, we met at Bible camp. Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Really?

[Marcus Mumford]

I was. I was 10. She was 12.

[Will Arnett]

What? Nice. Ah, yeah, nice.

[Jason Bateman]

So they were. So you guys. Now she started to tell some of the story. I think I remember.

[Sean Hayes]

That's right.

[Jason Bateman]

About how they were pen pals, right?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, we were pen pals. Yeah. And her. And she still has the journal entry from the day we met where I. My cousin was there, who was two years older, who was age appropriate for her, and he got a eight, eight and a half out of 10. But I, who was definitely not underlined, boyfriend material, got a nine out of ten.

[Will Arnett]

Wow.

[Marcus Mumford]

Go figure.

[Jason Bateman]

So then what made you not boyfriend material? Because you were.

[Will Arnett]

You were just 10.

[Marcus Mumford]

I was two years younger and I was also a foot shorter.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, that was. It wasn't because you were some. It wasn't because you were like. Wasn't because you were a monster running around and being a pain?

[Marcus Mumford]

No. Well, she did write in her journal that I was a bit aggressive on the soccer pitch.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, sure.

[Marcus Mumford]

That I'd gone in a bit heavy on some of the tackles, which would be which. Which lines up. But then we stayed in touch as kids, I guess, and then we reconnected in our. Our 20s and I just love.

[Will Arnett]

And did you lighten up? Are you still a heavy tackler or. I mean, let's it.

[Marcus Mumford]

Well, yes. Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

It's one of the few times I'll drop a C bomb in earnest. Is co ed soccer in the States particularly. I lived in Denver and I used to play co ed soccer. And you know, you can't retaliate. At least where I come from, you know, a woman tackles you really hard, you can't retaliate. So, yeah, I get. Yes. The rage comes out on the football field sometimes.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh God.

[Jason Bateman]

It's a big, big game on right now, Willy.

[Will Arnett]

I bet you're too. I know, I know.

[Marcus Mumford]

And guys, whoever organized this.

[Will Arnett]

I know.

[Marcus Mumford]

I can't believe we've done this.

[Will Arnett]

I know, I know. I've got it too.

[Marcus Mumford]

Have you got it?

[Will Arnett]

Okay. I just.

[Jason Bateman]

Don't spoil it, right?

[Will Arnett]

Are you?

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, because I haven't. I'm gonna watch it after.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Will Arnett]

It's really intriguing right now, by the way. It's really intriguing. Right. And they've just come out.

[Marcus Mumford]

I haven't got a live feed because I was thinking about. And then I didn't press record, so.

[Jason Bateman]

Should we take a break?

[Will Arnett]

Are you in the uk, Marcus? Are you in the UK or are you here?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah. And so I thought. I thought on Champions League final day we'd be safe to do a. Do a chat at 5 or 6. Turns out it was an early kickoff, 5 o'.

[Jason Bateman]

Clock. But do you. Do you honestly want to take a two second break and go hit record so you can see the second half?

[Marcus Mumford]

I'll do it on your phone.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, for sure.

[Marcus Mumford]

No, no, no, no, no. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. It's fine if it was an England game. So we have a. We have a new man, fairly new management team, last couple years and who's we? They haven't managed us. They haven't managed. Sorry, band management. Oh, okay. They haven't managed our band through. Through a World cup summer. And it's a big deal trying to manage our band during a World cup summer because if there's any kind of. We can't. We tend not to play on England days because they're big days. I take this stuff very seriously. And I sat them all down for the third time in about. We delayed the announcement of our tour because they hadn't yet announced what dates and days the group games were going to be. And so business wise, it was almost a disaster. But we waited for so long because we waited to announce the tour so that we knew we weren't going to be on stage when England were playing. Right. And I sat everyone down, I said, look guys, management's going great. You're doing a really good job. But just so you know, we've had this conversation now three times on Deadly Serious. If you double book us when England are playing, everyone is fired. Everyone is fired. And I think they've got the message pretty clear now. And I think I'm going to manage to sneak to a couple of games. But it's a big summer. It's a big summer.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, go. So let's, let's, let's go back to being a kid. Yeah. And we're right in there around summer camp.

[Sean Hayes]

And where did you grow up? Jason said you grew up in California.

[Marcus Mumford]

No, I was born in California.

[Sean Hayes]

You're born.

[Marcus Mumford]

Okay, but evacuated. Evacuated to England at six months old.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, so not even.

[Marcus Mumford]

I grew up in London.

[Will Arnett]

What were the conditions under which you were born in California? Why is that?

[Marcus Mumford]

My parents were working there for a couple years. Down in Anaheim? Yeah, for a church. So I was bought, I popped, I popped up along the way and then they came back home to plant a church in London from the Californian one.

[Will Arnett]

God.

[Jason Bateman]

And then, at what point then was music introduced to you?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yep. I mean, it was the kitchen. My mum listened to a lot of music and had a vinyl collection that I was allowed access to quite early on. And then we would listen to music.

[Sean Hayes]

And what were some of those vinyls?

[Marcus Mumford]

Well, it was a lot of classical music and a lot of choral music because she was in a choir at university and stuff.

[Will Arnett]

That's cool.

[Marcus Mumford]

And then the only two kind of pop records she had or non classical records were Blood on the Tracks, Amazing. And House of the Rising sun by the Animals.

[Will Arnett]

Wow.

[Sean Hayes]

Wow.

[Marcus Mumford]

And so I played them to death. And then, and then, and then we leaned heavily into the Greatest hits by Bruce Springsteen. That was like the Family Car record.

[Jason Bateman]

But then. So that, that explains that you don't have an aversion or rather you have an attraction to or an ability to incorporate these other instruments and instrumentation around your music. Some people call it folk. I know that that's not really accurate, but the fact that you can work in all these different sounds and your music, your sound, the band sound is so full and varied. Does that have some roots in the classical music that you Were all the multiple instruments?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, maybe. I think that's partly a reflection of the taste amongst the band members. Like me and Ben and Ted all have real different tastes in music, and it covers most genres. Ben, Ted's the best guitar. He's the bass player. He's the best guitarist in the band by a long way. Plays jazz and blues and kind of studied it, but plays the bass in the band, which is very kind of. Kind, actually. And then Ben grew up playing lots of classical and jazz on piano and saxophone. He was a better drummer than me at school and. And then. And then I, you know. Yeah, we cover most of the genres together. And I think we've always felt like whatever instruments suit the song that we're writing at the time.

[Jason Bateman]

Right.

[Marcus Mumford]

You know, so we leaned heavily into like electric guitars and stuff on the third and fourth records. And now I've kind of come back more to the acoustic stuff. And it's. It's just fun, man. Yeah, we love it.

[Jason Bateman]

We'll be right back,

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[Sean Hayes]

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[Jason Bateman]

What about you? Playing so many different instruments. That's not super common, right?

[Will Arnett]

I mean.

[Marcus Mumford]

Well, the key is learning three chords on lots of instruments.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, but I mean, there I'd be playing drums is so not the same as playing a guitar is. What's more difficult? Seems like the drums would be very difficult to master. Or is it just.

[Marcus Mumford]

Well, I mean, that was my instrument at school and I took it fairly seriously and, you know, did the grading system and. And that started with pots and pans in the kitchen with mum and dad. And then, and then I played all the way through high school. I played at college just for the year that I'd lasted at college and then got hired as a drummer in a band for Laura Marling. So I quit college for Laura Marling.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

So I quit college to go play for Laura.

[Jason Bateman]

Well done.

[Marcus Mumford]

And that was my first job in music. And that's really nice. And so I got hired as a session drummer and I still like to play drums for people when I get the chance, honestly. Cause I love it. But then. And so. And then I learned open tunings on the guitar so that I could play it like a percussion instrument really, without having to read. I can read drum music. I can't read, you know, Other music.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, really?

[Jason Bateman]

What does drum music look like?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, drum music.

[Sean Hayes]

X's.

[Marcus Mumford]

It's still on a stave. Yeah. There's X's and there's noughts and crosses, basically.

[Jason Bateman]

And so like the snare is an X and the kick drum is a. Yeah, the kick.

[Marcus Mumford]

The bass drum goes at the bottom and then the snare is like two down. You know, where the C would normally be. And the hi hats are on top. And they're normally X's. And then the symbols are on top of that. They stack it.

[Sean Hayes]

So, you know, you know the, you know the note. Like there's this. A line.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

And then the black dot. Instead it's a line with an X.

[Marcus Mumford]

And that's percussion for cymbals. It's an X. Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Huh.

[Sean Hayes]

Wait, Jason and Will, did you guys ever. Did you ever try to learn an instrument or.

[Jason Bateman]

No piano. I played as a little kid, and then when I got too big to be pushed around, I said, I'm out.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, sure, I understand that.

[Will Arnett]

So you always had a great attitude, Is that what you're saying? You're consistent? No, it was.

[Sean Hayes]

It was.

[Jason Bateman]

It wasn't. It wasn't.

[Will Arnett]

Like, I wish I had. I wish I'd stayed with him.

[Jason Bateman]

But, you know, it's like my parents, like they said, you know, it's like, it's a form of discipline. You're gonna have to do your practice for an hour every single day.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

So they made it fun.

[Jason Bateman]

Exactly. Like that was a problem. Like, you know, they should have made it fun. Like any kid. You're gonna try to cheat and not practice. And so they set up a tape recorder that I had to put on the. On the piano and press record during my. During my one hour practice to prove that I was practicing. Of course, it was the same music that I was practicing each and every week.

[Will Arnett]

So you just played the same.

[Sean Hayes]

So you record it once and just turn the.

[Jason Bateman]

Record it once and they bought it. You know, you're not getting any better by Friday each week.

[Will Arnett]

That was your audition for it's yous Move. That sounds like the thing your character

[Jason Bateman]

and it's yous Move would have done.

[Will Arnett]

The show Jason did when he was like 15 was so funny. Marcus. I played over here. It was a brilliant show where he just played a kid who did shit like that all the time. I wish. Yeah, I wish I had. I. I did a couple instruments here and there during school and I wish. I just wish I'd stuck with it. It's one of those, like, I wish I'd. I can play four chords on a guitar really sloppily. I just.

[Sean Hayes]

But let me ask you this, Marcus, to Will's point is like, once you learn and become proficient as you have in so many areas of music, and not only music, singing and all that is, you don't listen to other music the same way.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, that's true.

[Sean Hayes]

Whereas somebody like Will or Jay, who.

[Will Arnett]

I love music.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. You have a different appreciation for it. Not that you don't, if you know it, but, you know, it's just a different ear.

[Marcus Mumford]

We had this conversation the other day. We had a podcast party at home. It was Carrie's birthday and. And someone came and they were like, there's no music. And I was like, yeah, we. We don't really play music. Music as back. We don't. I can't do background music cuz if music's on, I want to like lean in and listen to it and.

[Sean Hayes]

Right.

[Marcus Mumford]

I can't switch that part of my brain off. So then Carrie doesn't like having music in the house because I just. I just stop having a conversation. Like if music comes on, I'll just. And she'll be like, you've gone. I was like, oh, sorry, let's turn off then.

[Sean Hayes]

And then when you listen to it, do you. Do you analyze it? The chord progressions, the melodies?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, yeah, normally, you know, and. And if. And a lot of the time then they'd sort of store it to try and copy it, you know?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, right, sure.

[Will Arnett]

Who. Do you listen to a lot of new music at all?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, yeah, I listen to probably mostly new music actually. And if I'm on my own, that's when I listen to music.

[Jason Bateman]

And how. How are you finding the new stuff? Are they. Is somebody. Is somebody giving you tips on like, oh, you should check this or. Or how about this? You know all those streaming services, they like, they figure out what you like and then they send you suggestions, stuff. Do you find that helpful? Do you. Do you follow some of those?

[Marcus Mumford]

Sometimes. Some of my favorite music I found on. On TikTok when I was on it.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

And now I'm not on it. My new music has dried up a bit, actually. I was enjoying that. There's an amazing British band called Divorce, great band name, who became my new favorite obsession. I was completely obsessed with them. We got them to come on tour with us, which is fun. Well, I just found the algorithm, fed them to me.

[Will Arnett]

So you found them and said, hey, let's get these guys come on tour with us.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah. And Then we ended up recording a song together.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, I love that.

[Jason Bateman]

Wait, you had to cut yourself off from TikTok? Is that what I'm sniffing out?

[Marcus Mumford]

I did, yeah. I just. I just. Well, I did it ahead of putting out the new record because I just wanted to be insulated from how other people felt about it, because I knew how I felt about it and I didn't. And I didn't need some, like, comment somewhere spoiling my experience, because I was happy with it.

[Jason Bateman]

Good for you.

[Marcus Mumford]

And I couldn't change it. It was done. And this is the first time I've ever put a record out where I genuinely have not read a word about it. And I feel.

[Sean Hayes]

Feel free. I love that. That's really cool.

[Marcus Mumford]

It's cool. I mean, it's a privilege, obviously, but it's. It's. It's cool. So other people do our socials and stuff, and, you know, we send stuff over and we think about it, we're intentional about it, but I don't have to do any of it or be on any of it, which is cool.

[Will Arnett]

You must come across. You must come across bands and stuff. When you're. When you're touring too, or if you do a festival, do you, like, all of a sudden, do you find yourself going, oh, wait, what is that going on over there? And like. And here's somebody that way. Does that ever happen?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of the time it's just recommendations from mates. You know, they're like, you should listen to this. And sometimes when we're discussing who to come on the road, one of us will pipe up with something we've been listening to, you know? Cause we're very intentional about who comes out and supports us on tour. Because those are the shows I go to now.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

And I'll go. And every night. I don't like playing a show without watching the support band first. Cause it just gets me in the mood and it makes me feel what the room's like.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, of course. Yeah. There's a new English band that I've been obsessed with. West side Cowboy. Have you heard these?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Will Arnett]

So fucking good, man.

[Marcus Mumford]

Didn't they support Geese on their. Oh, did they run. And I think they support. Yeah, them and DAV Ellis. So. So that I found. I found DAV Ellis through Geese, because I knew he was on the road with. With them. And I'm like, you know, the rest of the Internet obsessed with them. And. And, yeah, that's how I found D. So a lot of the time it's just like who's playing with who? And these little communities that pop up, you know, which we were part of when we first started as a band. And that's really how people discovered us because they'd come to a Laura Mar. That's how Carrie found out about band. She booked a ticket to a Laura Marling show. And then we started shouting sort of an hour before Laura went on. And then she was like, oh, Mumford. I knew a kid called Mumford. And that's so.

[Jason Bateman]

I love that.

[Marcus Mumford]

Those little community build, you know. Yeah, yeah. She left a note with our tour manager.

[Will Arnett]

She didn't come backstage.

[Marcus Mumford]

She. No, she left a note. See, that's classic. That's really classic.

[Jason Bateman]

Well, wait, so she. I've been buried. She probably told us this. I apologize for forgetting. But so what on the note did she say? Hey, so I did know this guy named Mumford. I forget his first name. Is his name.

[Marcus Mumford]

No, you know what? We were both, I guess on Facebook for a, what, like a six month window when I was still at college. And we connected there. And then this was like a couple years after that when we'd started the band and I was still playing in Laura's band. And so she left a note with our tour manager with her email address on it, I think.

[Sean Hayes]

Wow.

[Jason Bateman]

But so knowing that it was you, once she saw you on stage, maybe.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Will Arnett]

You know what's great about this, Marcus, is she. But also email. Not the phone number, just another layer,

[Marcus Mumford]

you know what I mean?

[Will Arnett]

Slow play, real classy.

[Jason Bateman]

She's got skills.

[Marcus Mumford]

She's a classy broad.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, a classy broad. When did you know that music might actually be a path towards a living for you as opposed to just fun?

[Marcus Mumford]

Still not convinced. Still in some state of arrested development.

[Jason Bateman]

Now that was a band for Sean.

[Will Arnett]

For Sean. That's a TV show that was on for Sean, not for Jesse. For Sean.

[Sean Hayes]

Is it Playing now was also a good band.

[Marcus Mumford]

I think it was like. I think it's like I was at college. I got offered a job playing music. I wasn't having a great time at college, so I stopped and took a sabbatical.

[Sean Hayes]

Where'd you go to college?

[Marcus Mumford]

I think Edinburgh.

[Sean Hayes]

Okay.

[Marcus Mumford]

And I think in my head I'm still on my. Until quite recently, I've been on my sabbatical from college.

[Will Arnett]

Sure, sure.

[Jason Bateman]

I think you mean thinking that you would probably go back.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

And what would you have studied if you'd gone back?

[Marcus Mumford]

I was doing classics. I was doing Greek and Latin.

[Jason Bateman]

What literature to do What?

[Marcus Mumford]

Unclear. You know, it's not a vocational.

[Jason Bateman]

No, it isn't just.

[Sean Hayes]

Just reading. Reading.

[Marcus Mumford]

It's what. It's what a lot of lawyers, Classics in the UK particularly, is seen as like a good, honest old school degree to do if you're doing something.

[Sean Hayes]

But what do you do with that? Like, I don't understand.

[Jason Bateman]

He says lawyer. Lawyers, yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, lawyer.

[Marcus Mumford]

Well, what's cool about it as a. Become a member of Parliament? Yeah, A lot of those. A lot of prime ministers do it, but I wasn't on that track. What's cool about it is it gives you access to poetry and philosophy and storytelling and language and linguistics, anthropology, ancient history, all these things that you study through the original languages.

[Will Arnett]

Jason, you're drooling, your mouth is open.

[Marcus Mumford]

So it's really geeky and you get your geek goggles out when you're.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, I bet it helps you when you write lyrics.

[Marcus Mumford]

And then if it's windscreen and it's. And it's how I got introduced to poetry, it's how I fell in love with words, honestly. And then I started reading T.S. eliot really pretentiously as like a 17 year old.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. And.

[Marcus Mumford]

And suddenly words had a new depth to them. And, you know, he was a classicist too. And the references, a lot of classical references. And I'd sort of read a bit of Homer and then switch over to Elliot and be like, ah, cool. Look at the way they've joined. He's joined up and referred back to this.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

Can't you just see 17 year old Marx just riding a bicycle through some field and then just like dropping into a field and reading poetry?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. With a baguette and a basket on the bike.

[Marcus Mumford]

I was that guy. I was sat on the train to Edinburgh with a thick fabric and a collar that I cut the collar off my shirt because I'd seen the assassination of Jesse James and just got deep into. Deep into poetry. And it's until. And honestly, until this last record, I've been in denial about that too. Like, you know, I've been in this process of being like, this is kind of who I am now. This is what I do. So for prizefighter, I'd go and sit in the coffee shops in Hudson, New York. Cause we were recording with Aaron Destin at Long Pond. And I'd sit in the coffee shop for two hours every morning I'd do my artist sway like morning pages. And I'd sit and read poetry like a real twat. And just really lent in to, I guess, my identity at this point, and it helped me write lyrics. You know,

[Jason Bateman]

let's hit babble for a second here. So what did the incredible success of that album do for you as far, like, personally? Like, was it jarring to sort of have that. That next step of success and recognition and treasure and, like, was it. Did you adapt well to that? Was it. Was it a fun thing, or was it a bit disruptive?

[Marcus Mumford]

That's a great question, actually.

[Jason Bateman]

Thank you.

[Marcus Mumford]

Finally, for once, I don't. I don't think anyone. Unless you're maybe one of Simon Cowell's projects, I don't think you're trained, you know, to have that kind of level of success. We started playing music. Cause we loved playing. We loved each other, and it was just fun. And we got free beers. And then suddenly we were playing 250 shows a year. And then suddenly, you know, the first record starts gaining some pace. We took six weeks off tour to make Babel, which our producer at the time was really frustrated about. He's like, why do you have shows booked on the other side of a recording process? That's really dumb creatively. But we rushed it, and I think we got it right. But it was pressurized. And then the success of that record around the world, really, and particularly in the States, just opened us up to a world we weren't ever anticipating or planning for. And, yeah, I mean, I don't think. Unless you're a kind of pop. What project, you're. You're. You're even imagining it. And then suddenly the shows are all selling out and you're moving into bigger spaces and. And fulfilling lots of your dreams as a kid. Like to headline Glastonbury. Yeah, we only did on two records. You know, I remember getting at the end of the set, we basically had to play the whole of both records to fill the time. And I can remember getting the end of the set and just being like, we just need more songs, man. That's all we got. We need more songs. Cause you watch Springsteen play for three hours, and he's playing like, just hit after hit after hit.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

So, yeah, I wasn't really prepared for the success of that record. And I think we reacted to it a bit by making a record on the third one that no one was expecting from us. No one particularly wanted, but we loved it, and it took us into bigger rooms as well. And that was. It went widescreen. And then the fourth record, and then we had a long gap before the fifth and sixth records.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah. How long was that gap?

[Marcus Mumford]

That was like, on paper, it was seven years. I mean, we were touring for two of those after Delta came out and then Covid happened.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

So we were apart as a band for maybe three years. Yeah, that's a lot.

[Jason Bateman]

What was that biggest adjustment there when that. When that first wave of big success came in? I mean, obviously most notable would be the bigger crowds and the sellouts and probably nicer hotels. And you're flying from city to city instead of the buses, maybe, or like, just silly things like that. It must have been pretty heady, too, right. You're watching people, you know, sing your songs en masse and probably getting some feedback as to how you're affecting people and changing their lives a bit. And, you know, probably a weaker, more insecure person would probably buy into that a lot and kind of own a lot of that. I'll bet. I'll bet you sort of deflected a bit of that and tried to keep it all about the music and keep it simple and.

[Sean Hayes]

I mean.

[Jason Bateman]

But you. You tell me.

[Marcus Mumford]

It drove a bit of my shame narrative that was already there that I've looked at a little bit. I drank a bit more than probably I should have.

[Jason Bateman]

Like, imposter kind of stuff.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, a bit of that. Yeah, a bit of that, for sure. And I. I did. I went in a bit.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

And on stage you'd be very out, you know, give yourself completely. And then I. My. My friendship circle shrunk a bit, I think. Yeah. I did use booze, particularly, as a bit of an escape. And then really throughout it all, honestly, my marriage has just been the best thing about everything.

[Jason Bateman]

But I think as we get older, it's sort of naturally and in a very healthy way. I think most people, that circle gets smaller. You figure out more accurately who you are and what the proper fits are for you. And that usually equates to a smaller, more specific, more precise experience with people. Right. You're not out there shopping as much for.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, And I think I recognized the idea of capacity because for a few years there particularly, I was spread really thin. I mean, you guys must find this with your jobs as well. You meet so many people, and a lot of them you love, and then you want to be friends with, and then you connect with other people. And then I found myself getting spread really thinly and not being very good friends to my friends. And then that shrinking happened a bit. So in a kind of healthy way, I think. So, I guess. Yeah, I think you're right. It's partly growing up, but. Yeah, I suppose I Dealt with it all in a bit of unhealthy ways. Then I stopped drinking booze. More out of choice than necessity, although we could debate that. And then replaced it with ice cream for a while until I was told, you know, I wasn't losing any weight. I was really confused about that.

[Will Arnett]

We have, we have similar paths in that way. I, I did the same. I, I did that route too where I was. It was like an ice cream based diet after I quit.

[Marcus Mumford]

Quit boozing? Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Well, because you missed the sugar. I remember that.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, I miss it too. Wait, Marcus. You know, I'm always kind of interested. Probably been an hour at least. I'm like, I'm starting to shake. You know, I'm always interested when people like you who have bands and you, I mean, you tell me, have you. Did you have vocal training or know any or how to use your voice or. Because when I go, for example, I'm a massive Depeche Mode fan. They came on the podcast and it was really wild. I'm also a huge fan of yours and I love all kinds of music too. And I went to go see Dave Gahan sing and I can tell right away, oh, he didn't warm up. And then after the first couple songs, his voice kind of opened up a little bit and then it was great. And it was great from the beginning too, but just kept.

[Will Arnett]

Reach out and touch.

[Sean Hayes]

Faith bump, badoo doom. And then do you do. Did you have any kind of training or did you realize when you were touring, like, oh shit, I don't know how to take care of the kind of athleticism of my voice.

[Marcus Mumford]

I was convinced for years that whiskey and cigarettes really helped.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, right.

[Marcus Mumford]

And then just recently I've started actually Brandi Carlisle introduced me to her vocal coach, guy called Rob Stevenson, who's totally changed my world and given me some education on stuff like it's a muscle and you have to warm it up. And I've been lucky. And I watched friends around me get affected by the polyps thing and losing their voices. We've never, I don't think we've canceled a show for my voice in the past, which has been cool. Like the only couple of shows that I remember canceling were. Cause Ted had a brain hemorrhage.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh geez.

[Marcus Mumford]

Which wasn't funny at all. No get up. But now it's quite funny. Cause he had to wear a hat for a while. He headlined Glastonbury two weeks after getting that surgery like a legend. And we only, I think we cancelled two shows. For that. But we've just been lucky. And my voice has been resilient, amazing. But I think recently I've realized it's a muscle. Now I start and now I have a full routine and I look after it and I quit smoking and all that stuff.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, Good, good, good.

[Jason Bateman]

And we will be right back.

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[Jason Bateman]

What does that mean about the polyps? Because I had polyps removed from my vocal cords.

[Marcus Mumford]

But. But it means you're weak psychologically.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, damn it.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, it's the piano lesson thing. It's because it's a piano. Your parents were right. It was character development.

[Jason Bateman]

No, but I. I think the. The.

[Will Arnett]

The.

[Jason Bateman]

The doctor did say that I wasn't using my voice correctly because I was like, screaming in bars, you know, and smoking cigarettes and stuff. And he said that's. I just. I wrecked it that way. Is that what. Is that what happens to. To musicians or to singers that don't know how to warm up correctly? Or user like you can create polyps on your.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Marcus Mumford]

I honestly don't know.

[Sean Hayes]

I think the wear and tear a bit call not. Is it. It's true.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, I know that. I know that. Like going out after show. I just don't ever do that anymore. Because. Because talking in loud rooms after shows is the thing that is worse for your. Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Right.

[Marcus Mumford]

So after a show, I don't go on voice rest. I'm not like, precious about it.

[Sean Hayes]

Right. But.

[Marcus Mumford]

But I. I don't go out and I stay away from loud places.

[Jason Bateman]

Well, you also have a wife you love and three kids that you got to go spend time with too, you

[Marcus Mumford]

know, Also, I've just become quite boring and monkish, you know, on the radio.

[Will Arnett]

Jason, Amanda ever develop polyps?

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, boy. I'm screaming, that's your date.

[Jason Bateman]

That's your date. And she may cancel on you now.

[Will Arnett]

I love her. I love her more than anything in the whole world. Hey, so I lost my voice two days ago, actually, a little bit.

[Sean Hayes]

Really?

[Will Arnett]

Yeah. Too bad.

[Jason Bateman]

You found it.

[Sean Hayes]

Wait, Will, have you ever checked in it? Go ahead, Jay.

[Jason Bateman]

I lost mine two weeks ago. Yeah, it's still. It's still weak. I still, like, if I ever did theater, I'd have a real. I need. I would need to take real lessons about how to use.

[Marcus Mumford]

Have you not done theater?

[Jason Bateman]

No. I mean, tiny, small room stuff. But, like, if I ever did it, you know, here in New York, I'd leave. Help.

[Will Arnett]

Jay, I was thinking the same thing when I. Yesterday, I didn't fully lose it, but I was really close and I thought. I was just thinking about you, Sean, and about how you've been. You've been basically on stage for the last three years. Yeah, kind of straight.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

And Marcus, you must have the same thing. And I've thought I'm going through this thing of like, nice. Like I would. If I were.

[Sean Hayes]

If.

[Will Arnett]

If I were in a play right now, I'd be fucked. I wouldn't be able tonight.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You really have to take care of it.

[Marcus Mumford]

And Sean, do you do like a full hour every night before you.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, I. And there's songs that I'll sing to warm up. Like if I. I know if I'll sing all by myself and if I can hit that high note.

[Jason Bateman]

Let's have it.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, by myself. Then I can do the whole show.

[Marcus Mumford]

Oh, sick.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, it's funny. And you do it usually do it through tears. Right, right.

[Sean Hayes]

No, that's the song. Because that was a one man show. So I would sing all by myself.

[Jason Bateman]

Marcus, do you have a go to little thing that you do for. For warm up, Like a little scale thing or something like that?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, I do. It's called the penguin noise. There a lot of this.

[Sean Hayes]

That's good.

[Jason Bateman]

Really?

[Will Arnett]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

And then vocal straws. I use straws. This is about like. I mean, we could get tekkers if you want, but it's about getting your larynx to drop back down. Like putting your tongue at the back

[Sean Hayes]

of your throat and opening your palate with a straw.

[Jason Bateman]

Literally with a straw.

[Marcus Mumford]

And then the straw. The straw helps with back pressure. So you blow bubbles into a. Into a bottle through a straw.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

And then the back pressure helps open that up and ease all that out. It's like a little reverse massage.

[Jason Bateman]

Do you ever actually. Do you ever accidentally throw up? Do you ever accidentally throw up when you're doing.

[Marcus Mumford]

I, I can't eat like four hours before we go on stage because then bits come up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, because it's all quite shouty, you know.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

That's why.

[Will Arnett]

Jason, you accident. You accidentally threw up after a lot of big meals, don't you? Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, darn it.

[Sean Hayes]

But I hold his hair. I hold his hair.

[Jason Bateman]

I've got to get it out inside 10 minutes, otherwise it starts to absorb the fat. So, Marcus, Marcus, we're a month into your tour. What is the.

[Will Arnett]

What.

[Jason Bateman]

What will have been the most important part of your prep to go on some long tour? Like, do you have to get, you know, your family stuff all in order so that it can withstand you being gone so long? Do you have to get your body in order so it can withstand the hours and the, like. What, what, what, what is prep for a long Time.

[Marcus Mumford]

I have been trying to approach. I got to a point a couple years ago, I was like, there is an element of physicality to my job that requires me to train a bit more. So I have been working on that and trying to approach it more like an athletics program, and everything else will follow if I can do that stuff.

[Jason Bateman]

Well, what are we looking at? Cardio. We pushing weight? What's our training?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, all that stuff. Stuff, yeah, all of it. Yeah. Yeah. And then we have a little gym on the road that helps. There's a lot of card, like singing. It turns out that singing, playing guitar and stamping like this with your feet, which you.

[Jason Bateman]

You.

[Marcus Mumford]

You must remember Jason from that video that.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Jay was in the video.

[Marcus Mumford]

I forget that stuff. Turns out is some sort of cardio. I used to think it was enough to.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, it's exhausting talk about, how did that happen? How did Jason. How did Jason Bateman end up. Less disdain. No, I. Spit it out. How the fuck did Jason Bateman.

[Marcus Mumford]

It was. It was Sam Jones, wasn't it? He called you.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, yeah. Or was it Sudeikis? I think maybe I was doing Horrible Bosses at the time. Maybe it was. I'll bet you Sam contacted. I didn't know Sam, so he wouldn't have contacted me. So it would have been Fabi Sudeikis or Ed or Will. Yeah. And then they. I don't. I don't know how they got to me. Must have got a lot of passes before they got to me, but, God, that was so fun.

[Marcus Mumford]

Probably my favorite music video we've ever done, because I don't have to do anything, really, and I just got to watch you guys do it. Absolutely amazing.

[Jason Bateman]

Forte killed me on that.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, yeah. Well, Forte was the Kiss. The Kiss.

[Jason Bateman]

The Kiss. The hard kiss. All right, so. But. So that brings us to Sam. That brings us to the doc. Let's talk about the dock. Let's talk about the train tour. Let's talk about you arranging for those other. Other groups. And. And, you know, because you spoke earlier about picking, you know, the. The bands that you guys are interfacing with. So just. Well, let's go in order. What's it like traveling on a train that long with that many people?

[Marcus Mumford]

It's really exhausting. It's not. It's. I don't recommend it.

[Sean Hayes]

It's.

[Jason Bateman]

Right.

[Marcus Mumford]

It's very confined. It's like being on a submarine. It's worse than a tour bus.

[Jason Bateman]

Right.

[Marcus Mumford]

And I mean, it was. It was.

[Will Arnett]

So tell.

[Jason Bateman]

Sorry. Tell the audience what the Basic concept of this thing, and it was inspired by the. This happened. This Woody Guthrie and. And gang. Right, Right.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, I think they did it. Basically someone came to us, you know, I don't know, 2011, and said, we have access to a bunch of vintage rail cars. Do you want to go on tour on a train?

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

And we at that point were like, we just done a tour of India. Yeah, well, before we had any reason to do a tour of India, you know, we toured on a narrow boat. We like putting up our own festivals. It was just like fun ways of. Of like making the ships feel slightly different and discovering bits of the world that you might not otherwise. So we were feeling adventurous and we said, yes, we did it with Edward Sharp and the Magnetic Zeros, Great Britain with Old Crow Medicine show. And it was the best week on the road we've ever had. And we made a film and it won a Grammy and we were all very happy. It was great. And so we thought, let's run it back slightly differently. Let's hire, like, let's. Let's get all of our favorite musicians together as a house band, and then every night we'll get special guests to come on stage with us. So we had Lainey Wilson, Daris Rucker, Maggie Rogers and Noah Kahn, and we learned their songs the day before.

[Sean Hayes]

Wow.

[Marcus Mumford]

And performed like the house band for them. And it was really fun. And we did it. Yeah, we traveled by train. But that's not really the audience participation part because obviously it was just us and crew that went on the trains, but it was. And it was only five days, so it's manageable, but it was exhausting.

[Jason Bateman]

But you've got Sam and his gang with the cameras in there documenting the.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, yeah. So Sam made this film for it, which I really love. Actually. I don't enjoy the process of making music films. I think in general they're quite boring and I don't really watch them for pleasure.

[Jason Bateman]

But this one feel like a reality show, right?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, a little bit. And. And yeah, it's. I find it quite hard to relate to a lot of them. I'm obviously get the Beatles one is my favorite of all time, and I've watched that many times. And. But other than that, I don't get a huge amount of enjoyment from watching this one, especially not our ones. But this one I actually think he did something really beautiful with. And the people involved were unbelievably kind with their time, and we made it kind of like a socialistic enterprise where everyone got paid the same and whatever cash there was left in the pot after very expensive trains, we just shared out. And then our friends really gave us their time, you know, and they're phenomenal musicians. And we had a little.

[Will Arnett]

I was gonna say so for Tracy, but she knows because she met Sam when we were on tour. Sam Jones is the same guy who did the Smartless on the Road special that we did, so that we all know Sam through the process. Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

That's so cool. I didn't know he. I didn't know he did this, and I didn't know anything about this. When can we.

[Marcus Mumford]

And I'd made a film with him. He made the documentary about the new Basement Tapes thing that we did with Elvis Costello and Jim James and Tony.

[Will Arnett]

I don't know about this.

[Marcus Mumford]

We took old Bob Dylan lyrics that T Bone Burnett had, like, pilfered off Dylan and asked if we could record music for them. And Dylan, amazingly, said yes. They were literally from shoeboxes in the Big pink from the 60s. And so we wrote music to all these unused used lyrics, which was really fun. And Sam made a documentary that. So I'd worked with him before, and obviously he. He shot our Rolling Stone cover, which I hate. But he also made that Hopeless Wanderer video that Jason was in. So we'd worked with him a bit before, and. And he came on and did it, and it was.

[Sean Hayes]

It was sweet.

[Will Arnett]

And he also made the Wilco Duck. I'm trying to break your hearts.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

Which is also amazing.

[Jason Bateman]

So great.

[Sean Hayes]

It's. Wow.

[Will Arnett]

That's. I want to see that doc you're just talking about. I want to see that one where you guys with the dill.

[Marcus Mumford]

Oh, it's sweet.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, it was good.

[Sean Hayes]

It's a while ago, actually.

[Jason Bateman]

Go ahead, Shoney.

[Sean Hayes]

I was just gonna do my standard, like. Do you have any, like, one show or one fan interaction on stage that just went horribly wrong or something that went horribly wrong on stage during a tour?

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, yeah. Recently we started the Prizefighter tour in Australia.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

And we played a song for the first time, and it went so badly wrong. We stopped halfway through and we didn't start the song again.

[Will Arnett]

No way.

[Jason Bateman]

I bet the child loved that, though.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, my go. I love that.

[Will Arnett]

What did you say?

[Marcus Mumford]

I said, that's live music, folks. And we moved on. And I wanted to fall through the floor so badly. It was the worst. I think it was the worst moment I've ever.

[Sean Hayes]

Wait, why did you stop?

[Marcus Mumford]

Oh, it was just a disaster. Everyone was in the wrong key and wrong time, and it was just A disaster and would have required a full rehearsal to do it. And I thought that was probably pushing it. So we just stopped and moved on to one there.

[Sean Hayes]

And you just thought, ah, well, we'll get this, we'll get this. Watch this. Six, seven, eight.

[Marcus Mumford]

Awful. It was awful. It was so horrible.

[Jason Bateman]

I'll bet you the audience loved it, though, like, kind of, you know, like, like, like a blooper, you know, so cool.

[Will Arnett]

Like.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah, I think, you know. Yeah. My wife says things like, because I forget lyrics a lot when I get nervous, my memory goes. And I'll forget a lyric sometimes and she'll be like, that's the bit people love. That's the live bit as different to the record.

[Sean Hayes]

And I, I, I toured with Kenny Rogers when I was a, when I was in my early 20s as a Christmas elf in his tour.

[Marcus Mumford]

Amazing.

[Sean Hayes]

And, and he would forget the lyrics all the time. And whenever he did, he would just hold the microphone out to the audience. Audience.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, you got to know, Sean, I thought you'd go, hey, Santa.

[Jason Bateman]

The lyric is shuffle over like a little helpful elf.

[Marcus Mumford]

Hey, have you ever done that on stage, though? Because that terrifies, especially with a one man show. Have you ever forgotten your loss?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, yeah, there's one. I just did it. It was absolutely terrifying. There is one part where the line is, you know, I say to one of the characters, I say, are you gonna be here? How long are you in town for? And he says, the Weeknd. I say, can we get together and discuss this one thing? He says, sure. And then I say, your last name is Dupain. And then one night I go as one of the characters, I go, how long are you in town for? He goes, the weekend. And I go, can we get together? And I go, And I go, and then I go to myself, I go, wait, how long are you in town for? To the character. And I go, I just told you, I'm in town just for the weekend. And it bought me time to think of what line was next.

[Marcus Mumford]

And did you get there?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, thank God.

[Marcus Mumford]

And do you think people noticed?

[Sean Hayes]

No, they don't know.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

And certainly the stage manager that was asleep in the wings not throwing you the line didn't notice either.

[Sean Hayes]

Right, Right.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

It just scares the living daylights out.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, it is pretty cool.

[Jason Bateman]

All right, before we let you go, because we're too minutes over here, I want to know how being a parent has changed the way that, that you, that you, that you listen to music or, or write music. Yeah. I'm assuming they go with you a little bit, but does it. It's got to change the way you are as an artist, as a musician. Yes.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah. Yeah. I think it's. I think it's been a healthy. I think it's been a wonderful antidote to my narcissism. Because you, like, just. You can't just be the center. I mean, you probably can, but I found it difficult to remain the center of my universe with these little ones around. And it puts everything else in perspective in such a helpful way for me.

[Jason Bateman]

Amen.

[Marcus Mumford]

I found it. Yeah. Like, so if you're asking about how it's affected my work, it makes me more intentional when I go to work. And actually, scheduling wise, like, I just want our team to pack as much as they can into as short a period of time as possible. So I'll go away and I'll work really, really hard for whatever period of time I'm away, and then I come home. And sooner than I would have if the schedule had been more easy, you know?

[Jason Bateman]

And I would imagine when you do come home, that that is. That is the thing you are most addicted to. Completely indulging in. Right. I rationally excited to just, like, dive headfirst into family.

[Marcus Mumford]

Yeah. I want to get home, you know, like, one of the guys really likes during the day. I just want to get home as soon as possible. I don't care which flight it is.

[Sean Hayes]

Right.

[Marcus Mumford]

And then hopefully be there for the school run the morning after. Because. And that's why. That's why dropping booze for me has been so helpful. It's just made my life more functional.

[Jason Bateman]

Get up earlier because I get home,

[Marcus Mumford]

I'm not dusty, you know, I'm like. Yeah, it's just being, like, present as fast as you can. An accelerated manner, it feels like. So it's made me more. More present, I think.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

And then more grateful. When I get to go and do my work and go and play these shows, I just feel grateful for it. I'm in this season of gratitude with the band that I'm just really enjoying because I'll go away and be like, I've got to make the absolute most of this because. Because it's awesome and it's amazing. It's such a privilege. And our audience have been so kind to us and continue to grow and. And that's just felt, like, wild. And so I wanna. I wanna be really good. I wanna be really great at that. And that takes time and attention. That obviously is a cost balance, you know.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

But I'm just attacking It. And I'm.

[Jason Bateman]

Well, you are.

[Will Arnett]

Well, yeah. You start to value. Well, sorry. Sorry, Jay. I was just gonna say, like, I've gone through that, too, in the last couple years. It's like when you. If you are gonna do something that's taking you away from home and the kids and all this stuff, it's gotta be value. Valuable, you know?

[Marcus Mumford]

Exactly.

[Will Arnett]

It's. And. And. And if you're going to do it, you do it wholeheartedly, and then. And then you go, because you. Because you really just want to be home.

[Marcus Mumford]

Right.

[Will Arnett]

You know, so it's got to be. It's got to be meaningful.

[Jason Bateman]

Well, we're grateful of the time you do spend away from them because you are incredible at it. Keep going at it and. And maybe we'll see you for. For the. For the. For the dock down the street.

[Will Arnett]

I will. I will see you.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

Jason with my wife. Okay.

[Jason Bateman]

The woman he'll be with is my wife. And I want a full report. Take some pictures.

[Marcus Mumford]

I'm really excited to see you guys. Yeah. Thanks so much for having me.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, thank you for doing this.

[Marcus Mumford]

Privilege.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, man.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Marcus Mumford]

Thank you.

[Will Arnett]

Such fans.

[Jason Bateman]

Enjoy the rest.

[Sean Hayes]

Enjoy the game.

[Marcus Mumford]

Thank you. See you guys.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. Okay, bye.

[Marcus Mumford]

Peace. Bye.

[Jason Bateman]

That was double M, as I like to call him. I call him Eminem.

[Sean Hayes]

He loves grand, by the way. Isn't that crazy that at the beginning, we were talking about our hair, and you said, what's the name of your new hairdresser? And I said, marcos.

[Jason Bateman]

No, it's not Marcos.

[Sean Hayes]

Marcos Mumford.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

I just don't think.

[Sean Hayes]

And then the guest name was Marco. Well, it's M A R, C O, S, So it's the same. It's spelled the same.

[Jason Bateman]

I get where you're going with this, Sean, but, you know, it's not.

[Sean Hayes]

It's not crazy.

[Jason Bateman]

It's not crazy. No.

[Sean Hayes]

I think that's really wild. I mean, what are the odds of that?

[Jason Bateman]

What are the odds?

[Sean Hayes]

He's great, though. I mean, what are the odds? He is great that I didn't. You know, I never knew anything about him.

[Jason Bateman]

I like. I really like his flavor of British accent.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, me too. I noticed that, too. And I like that, too.

[Will Arnett]

They're melodious. Yeah, it's nice.

[Sean Hayes]

It's calming. They're.

[Jason Bateman]

They're different. Definitely different regions of.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, there are.

[Jason Bateman]

Accent.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, which ones are there?

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, there's.

[Sean Hayes]

There are.

[Jason Bateman]

There is sort of the aristocratic sound. There's the Liverpudlian. There's the slightly Scottish. There's the Welsh. Right. Will Will. Will. You're. You're the guy over there.

[Will Arnett]

How dare you? How very dare you.

[Jason Bateman]

Right? And like, I wouldn't be like, if ever.

[Will Arnett]

Liverpool. You're okay. You're right. You're right, Jason.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. See, you can't just do a regular British accent. If you're gonna play a character, it's gotta be region specific.

[Sean Hayes]

Yep. There's. Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

He's such a nice dude. I'm really excited for the. For the doc. I can't wait to see it.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. I didn't know anything about it.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

It's gonna be really.

[Jason Bateman]

What time are you gonna pick my wife up? And what are you gonna wear?

[Will Arnett]

Well, she's spending the night, so I think that we're gonna.

[Jason Bateman]

Hang on.

[Will Arnett]

We're gonna be. We'll just get ready together, you know?

[Sean Hayes]

By the way. By the way, I was just talking to her right before this. She says, hello, Jason.

[Jason Bateman]

I've not spoken to her yet today. You guys really do.

[Will Arnett]

Can I tell you some? We could decide if we want to cut this. I said, are we doing dinner Sunday? And she goes, I'm not sure. And if we don't do dinner, I go, well, we could get dinner. She goes, no, if we're not doing dinner with all of us getting together, I'm doing a full moon women's circle. Lol. Hold your tongue.

[Jason Bateman]

There is some kind of a full light bulb up in the sky coming up here soon.

[Sean Hayes]

How about that? Wait, and what do you do in the circle? I'll call it $. I don't know. Maybe I'll. Maybe I'll do that.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, we'll trim this. All right, who's got a buy? Anybody got a buy?

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, wait.

[Marcus Mumford]

Well, there's.

[Jason Bateman]

Wait, didn't we. Didn't I try to.

[Will Arnett]

You know what?

[Marcus Mumford]

You know what?

[Will Arnett]

If we ever. If we ever did a week where we didn't. We didn't throw out a buy, we. We would have to call that the bye week.

[Marcus Mumford]

Need to keep saying it.

[Will Arnett]

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[Sean Hayes]

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[Jason Bateman]

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[Sean Hayes]

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