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Hi. Welcome to Smoshmouth. I'm Shane.
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And I'm Angela. And today we're here with Chance McCra.
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Hey, what's up?
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Hey, what's up? That sounded like a soundboard.
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It is a soundboard. Hey, what's up? Hey, what's up? Nice. Thanks.
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Your turn, bruh.
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Bruh. Yo, bruh. Bruh. They're all. They're all like. There's like doubles. Oh, there's. There's only like two. Why would you double up buttons? I don't have many sounds. Oh, Angela. Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. We got him.
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Have you ever, ever seen that?
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Press that one again, please.
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Have you ever, ever seen that?
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She actually. She did it. Can she go back? Oh, yeah. What's that one? What's the first one? Ladies and gentlemen? We got him. No, switched it. Switched. That was pretty good. That was pretty good. That's a fun game.
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That's a.
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That was a fun game.
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We're already generating little bit of games.
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Oh, a little bit of games. It was so like millennial white woman. No, don't. And that is what I am.
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And listen, I have been none. Stop giving people the cringe. The. The cringe today. Jesus. Like something's. Something's wrong, y'.
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All.
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Amanda's gotta come home, baby.
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Home.
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Bring her home.
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Don't do that to yourself. After. You just. You finally nailed the intro.
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Yeah, I. I like. I'm gonna nail it on the last one. Yeah, that's a little hint at my character arc. Speaking of character.
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Arc speaking. Good transition there. Today we're going to talk about characters, just everything. But because we do so many and. And I want to sit and talk.
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About them because it's not like even a right. We're not talking about writing and we're not talking about acting. We're talking about like character generation, which is a type of writing and a type of acting that I think we all do hear a lot. And I'm excited to get in the weeds because I have a theory, just jump off, jumping off the bat that I have stopped kind of generating like well written characters because I'm just. Because of here.
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What do you mean?
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I am now kind of like. Like I think back on my Baft Legacy characters and I'm like, those were like built people.
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Yeah.
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That like, sure. We never built them. Like a day before. It was kind of morning of. And then we were kind of going as we went. But like now if I do a games video as a character or a bit city or anything, I am like barely thinking of anything and I am jumping in the pool.
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Well, the Bath Legacy was. There was the nice time zone. Like you knew the time period looks structured and so you're like, how do. What would I be like in that time period?
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Yeah, but I'm not even like. I think some. Some characters I love to like, get in the mindset. I'm not even doing that anymore.
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I'm just going like, it's really hard nowadays. We move too fast.
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Yeah.
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And then also, like things elevate so quickly. Yeah. It's like you started a character and it needs to like kind of reach its climax and have a big punchline within that first video that it's in. That.
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Yeah.
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You can't have a slow build.
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Like, could a Sarah Christ be made and generated in a smosh video nowadays?
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It's like gone. It's gone too quick.
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Like that is so much more like. I don't know. You think about like the old formats. It's different. Everything changes. Right. It's art. Right. So it's different. But it's like sometimes I think the characters I'm doing here are just like. That's it.
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Sure.
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You know, like instead of like a. Like the chosen is a mindset and also the chosen.
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Like in so many of our videos we. I think maybe it's just a matter of slowing things down a little bit. Cause like real, like characters that feel grounded and real have a hard time keeping up.
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Yeah.
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I've had fun this year just because I think you've Just been hosting so much.
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Yeah.
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That I've gotten to get back in that swing of creating characters and, like, having them sit on the couch for an hour. So I started, and I was like, okay, jokes, joke, jokes. What's the game gonna be? And I found that it got easier and easier as I switched to the mindset thing. I was like, okay, what would they, like, what would they be like in the more casual podcast setting? Yeah. What would this character, like, do or say? Like, even off camera, I also feel.
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Like you and Courtney are similar where you guys cook on a look.
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Yeah. You need to be immersed.
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You guys are, like, back there going back to tntl. You like chance, you are always look first. Like, you put. You put clothes on. You go, who is this? Who is this?
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Yeah. And you're like, everyone sees with their eyes. You see unless you're hearing it. But, like, if you can see the person, you're like, okay, what would that person be like?
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Yeah. Sometimes I go the opposite. Sometimes I'll, like, think of a bit, and then I'll dress the character.
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Yeah. I think my. When I'm at my best, when I feel most comfortable with a character, it's. It's an intention. So, like, with the Chosen, it's that everything I'm saying has to be. It's the most badass thing ever said. Yeah. And then with, like, probably the most recent character that I felt strongest in, like, like, within was Stephen King. My, like, Stephen King's son character, where I'm like, everything I say is the spookiest thing you've ever heard. He's going to scare. Like, what I'm saying is this is the most treacherous, like, torturous thing.
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Yeah.
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Anyone's ever thought of. And then, like, no matter what I say, off the top of my tongue is going to be, like, the dumbest shit ever.
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Yeah.
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But because that's my intention, it's then funny.
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No, it's going back to point of view. And I feel like that's like, honestly, to me, what a strong character is. Is you're showing me, like, just a good pov.
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Yeah.
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Like, I don't know if it's. If it really matters to me about the voice, sometimes that'll sell it for me too. But if, like, if I get to see what I think is so smart about the Chosen is the way they live life and the way life looks to them and how different that is to me, and that's what makes him a character.
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And he's like a very real person. Right. Like, I think A lot of viewers relate to him because it's like, yeah, like, we all feel like that sometimes.
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Like, people dress like him at cons because that's the energy they're bringing at cons.
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The chosen is who I am for the 30 minutes after I see an awesome movie. Yes. Like, you know, like those. When you're leaving the movie theater, walking to your car, you're walking a little different. Yeah. You're like, still might have superpowers. What if I am Paul Atreides? Yeah. You know, it's like you're. You're thinking those dumb thoughts. You're like, I know this is stupid, but let me immerse myself right now. This episode of Smoshmouth is brought to you by zocdoc. It is that time of year where I need to schedule my next annual checkup.
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Was it easy? Because, Shane, sometimes it feels easier to just, like, go on my algorithm and follow health trends and be like, okay, I'll do that instead.
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I need a doctor.
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Back to the show. You're so right about the look. And I was thinking it's also not just the look. It's the way the character moves through the universe. It's the way their body moves too. So I feel like I get it in my body too when I'm doing really good character work. And I'm like, how does this person carry themselves? Where do they carry tension and how does that affect how they think? Like, how does the blood flow to their brain differently because they're hunched over or because their chest is back so they're breathing a little more so they can boom a little louder when they speak?
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Yeah, that's like, I think, like, when we're back there for tntl, you and I are always kind of like, like kind of wrestling in front of the mirror. And I think, like, remember that one tntl? There wasn't a mirror.
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Yeah.
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And we're like, I can't. I need to like, look at it and be like, who.
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Who is this?
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Who is that? Yeah, that's really important too. But then sometimes I'll like, think of premise based characters that, like, for people at home, I think that's like, it's like when I'm like, oh, like that character I was talking about in the last episode of Smash where I'm like, oh, it's a girl who shames people who haven't seen movies. Like, that's a premise. That's not a. Like, that's not a pov. That's a girl that's like, that's a game. End of the day, the POV is she is. I'm. I'm saying this all wrong, but like, she is insecure that everyone around her is young. Sure. It's like what I go back to and I patternize that, but like. Yeah, so it's. It's fun. There's so many different ways to generate.
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Yeah. So what else about that girl? Like, what? Oh, if it was not just game, if it was character, what would be character descriptors?
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Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Because I went in through that door. Like, I. I do feel like I go through different doors of different types of generation character generated.
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It's also like just. I think what's tough too is there's so many times in Smosh videos where it feels like we got to get to that punchline. Yeah, yeah. It's like, I need the laugh. I need the laugh that you can't just like, trust to just sit and like, this is just generally funny.
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That's why game characters are, to me, feel safer. Because no matter what I go, oh, I know this is funny because this.
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See a lot nowadays. Like you used to see more like kind of like rounded characters that are just like, oh, this character is just funny to watch, even if there's not like, oh, here's the joke of their character.
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What's Molly Shannon's Yeah. Like that. There's no, like.
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Like, there's, like punch. There's punchlines, but it's just like, she's weird in so many ways.
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Yeah.
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Right. I think, like, Kristen Wiig had so many great characters. Right. That did have a punchline, but like. Like, Target lady was just like, yeah. Ridiculous. And you're just like, well, I kind of know that person.
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Yeah. The observational ones where you observe something that you see in real life. I love that way of.
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Oh, yeah.
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100% when you just go like. Because that is, to me is Target lady is like, that is someone. Like, I've seen that real person. Or the Trader Joe's characters. I've seen a lot of people do those where it's like, oh, there is a pattern here that we all can share and not really talk about, but we see in our day to day lives.
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Yeah. To make something that you could send that character anywhere and you just are like, oh, I know how they would act there.
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Yeah.
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Like the best. Getting the cadence, too. They all start to talk the same way. They try to communicate their thoughts the same kind of like Trader Joe's, specifically. Like, they all kind of have, like a flirty, upbeat cadence. So you start to notice those patterns and then get it in your voice and you're like, okay, what is it that they sound like? What are they doing?
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Yeah.
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And how can I copy that? And what does it mean for me in this character?
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Yeah. But it's so funny because I so wish. That's why I do love working with Amanda and you. And, like, I love the physical people because I think I started training in character stuff with such a, like, like, joke. What is the joke? What is the. What is the justification? Yeah.
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Kind of dramatically getting into it. Like when Courtney gets really locked in. Yeah. Dominic Patrone. Completely. Just different person.
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Yeah.
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And it's not even about her. They're not trying to be funny. A lot of times they're just like, in it.
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I love her characters where she's like, I can't get out of this guy.
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Yeah.
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And she's not doing jokes.
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She's just like, I'm Vincenzo, you know, Isaiah. I can't get out of Isaiah. Ever since I've done him, it's like now a part of my normal way that I communicate. Like, I like. And he was actually based on my brother. Don't. I hope he doesn't know that.
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Don't tell him that.
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Don't tell him that. No one tell him that.
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Isaiah from Bit City episode. Boy, Moms Yeah, don't tell him.
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Please don't tell him that.
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Please don't tell him that.
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He doesn't need to know that. But the cadence. I understood my brother and how he would want to communicate things. And so now it's become a part of me where I'm like, I can communicate this thought so much easier because of this character work. I'm discovering the character, which is a real person. So it's like this observational thing. I'm like, what were they? What are they trying to get across? Whoa. And now I do it. It's so crazy. It's interesting. I have characters where, like, I know there's aspects of people in my real life that come through, even though, like, the voice will change all the time. I have my, like, I call it just my Aunt Carolyn character is just general, like, like, older lady who's just chill and, like, funny and. And has no filter. Right. Because we all have a family member who's, like, in her 60s, 70s, zero filter, has good intentions. It's the best. Because they trust themselves enough. It's like, they're not. They've. And they. They've lived through the 60s. So they're just like, I. They're like, I don't care. Like, whatever. They've had everything said to them. But I realized, like, as I do it, I'm like. So often my. My grandma comes out. That's awesome. Like, and I'm just like. And a little bit of my mom, too. But, like, mostly my grandma. The way she's, like, sarcastic. Yeah. And says things. I'm like, that was just my grandma. Even though my grandma never drank wine or anything, but for some reason she has wine, like, there. She's aspects of things. And I'm like, I even see where, like, oh, the cartoons I watch. Like, yeah, that will influence the voice. And I'm like, I'm not trying to copy that. It's just, like an amalgamation of a bunch of things that have influenced me.
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What was the first character you did on Smosh?
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The very first. I'd say the first big character that ever came was Courtney freakin Miller.
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Oh, wow.
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And that was because Courtney was sick. Sick one day, and they had a show back then called Seriously Super Stupid Sleepover. It was her and Olivia that would host it. And according to Sick, and they're like, oh, Shane, do you want to co host instead? And I go, well, should I just put on a wig and just be Courtney? I was like, should I just do that? And they're like, sure. And So I, I put. All we had was that like Rod Stewart, like. Yeah, rocker hair, metal wig. So I was like, well, this is like an insane version of Courtney. I'm like, that's all I put on. Otherwise, that was just me. Yeah. And then I decided I'm just like, I'm gonna just be the most intense I can be with every line I say, yeah, that's so. And then it just kind of elevated from there and it became this kind of like wrestler, just insane thing. But so that's not like. There's not much like groundedness to that character. It's just. I'm going to put this on and what's the most insane thing I can say?
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I think that's. There's something to be said about like, my first one was Bazonka and I think it was like, I think it was truly like, I don't know, like, going really extreme and screaming. Like, like, I'm thinking about Courtney frickin Miller and I'm thinking about Bazonka. Like, like your first. When you don't really. You're not really comfortable like coming in with like, I don't know, grounded observational comedy on a YouTube channel where you don't really know anybody and you're kind of like, what if I just like high status. I love high status characters. We get. Get to that later. But what was your first character on Smashbox?
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I think it was Baka. Baca?
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Who's Baca?
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Oh, yeah. It was therapy. There was a series called Therapy and Couples Therapy. Couples Therapy. And Ian was James Cameron and I was a blue avatar. You were an avatar. The amount of aliens you played, oh, I love. It's so funny. I've never played an alien and you've played like ten by design, Shane. And I'm close to getting the pride flag. I think I still have a couple more colors. Has that been your goal? I have. Has been my goal the entire time. I have purple, blue, yellow, green.
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You don't have red.
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I know white. Mr. Beast, do I not have red?
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I think you have red.
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I forgot. The pride flag is added. There's like, there's a lot more colors than just. There's a lot more. So you're trying to. You're trying to get the light. I want all the Alphabet. Nice. Yeah, nice.
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I think all you have left is red. An orange.
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Orange. Orange is yellow. Mr. Peanut. Yellow is Mr. Peanut. Blue is Baka. Purple is Sprax. White is Mr. Beast. Green is Elphaba. Wow.
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I didn't know that was A goal.
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Yes. That's so funny. How long has that been your intention? I think it's been me and Eren's intention for at least eight months. I was going to say crazy.
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As members of the writing room of the writers room of Bit City, it's good to know this. We'll just pitch off of.
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This is very fun. I'm going to pitch you orange characters. I've been. We have been pitching characters. Okay. Chester Cheeto. Yeah, I'm like. Or like a salamander. So I'm pink. Are salamanders pink? They can be, I think, almost anything. Weird lizard. Not weird. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say weird. It's like a ax. A waddle. Sorry. To the lizard community. I do you know an ax. Right?
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Axel Waddle.
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What is that? No, that's. That's. She definitely. That's a ridiculous one. That's a ridiculous pink with like. It's a weird pink lizard. Is it a lizard?
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A Barbie lizard?
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Amphibian. Look at how cute they are. Very cute. She can't see that. Glasses.
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That's so far away. Selena, that's crazy.
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Chance. I think to this day Mr. Peanut is still my favorite of yours because he is mysterious to me in that I don't know his intentions, but I know that you know his intentions. Oh, 100%. He's very Jack Sparrow. He's so. He's. But there's a devious nature to him. What he is. Because there's like a genius, but not a charm. There's charm, there's charm, but there's deviousness. Yeah, there's deviousness. What is his intention always up to? No good. Yeah, it's like.
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Well, I mean, this goes back my theory. I do think on Smosh, if someone were to be like, what's a good. Like what makes characters successful in Smosh versus Not. Because I think about this all the time and I. I do think high status. I do love low status characters. Like Bug is low status.
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And I love grip guys are low status. Definitely. They're super low status.
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Yeah, I guess so. But I think in the room, I. I don't think they act like they. That they're below people. I think they're very front footed. Like, I don't even mean like political or like economic status. I mean like, like confidence. Like, do you feel like. I know Bug comes under because like I just want to please. Right. And that's. And that's still like a. A confident move, but like versus, I think like I think the chosen. I think Mr. Peanut, these. These guys are like, I am right and they could be very wrong.
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Yeah.
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But they believe them themselves.
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I would say that's maybe by design of, like, how long our content is that it's hard to have a low status character travel for like an hour and talk for an hour. It's very possible, though.
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Yeah. Like, no. There are a lot of low status characters that I think are really good. Like, Zay was low status.
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Should we explain low status and. Yeah.
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Should we explain.
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Yeah, like, what the difference between low status and high status?
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And I think I just mean. I don't mean, like economic status.
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It's a mindset thing. A high status character, like, the chosen thinks he is. He is in charge, thinks he is smart. He has the answers. Whereas a low status character is like, it's kind of. I've always equated a little bit to intelligence. Like on a general plane. Like, it's not even intelligence. It's like willpower. It's like, how much will do you want to impose on the rest of the world, on the universe? And how much are you just taking in?
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Or like. Yeah, I. I keep going back to Bug because it's like that character is like, I ju. I am not where I want to be yet versus some characters that are like.
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And I'm not willing. I'm not going to murder random people to get it.
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Yeah. Like, I just want to. I want to train. I want to be better. Versus, like, I love watching Real Housewives because I think they're all high status, but they're wrong. Right. And that's what's so funny to me. Like, my favorite characters are the ones with the craziest mindset that. That think it's normal.
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Yes. The worst ones on the Bachelor and the Bachelorette when I watch.
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Yeah. And it just makes. It's so funny to see someone that's like, I believe this thing. Any reality stars are good when they're that way.
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And I will say on Survivor, everyone has to be. Everyone is secretly high status.
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Yes. But you can't.
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You cannot let anyone know that you are high status because you will get voted out. And the people who are like, I'm high status are avoided out so soon or kept along to the end because they are an easy. Like, no one's gonna vote for them. Interesting.
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I'm about to do a dread, a live dread. And it's high schoolers. Right? And we're. And I was like, where are you guys in the cool. Like, in high school There's a status, right? And it's like, that's how I relate to you is like, are you a nerd? Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's how your character looks at the world. Is, are you cooler than me? Like, does that make sense?
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I now realize there is only one low status character that I've played that I. I feel very good about. I haven't done it in years. But, like, I was like, okay, this is the only time where I've nailed low status and I can be in the room and.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Is my Mr. Muffins character. Oh, my God.
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I've never seen him.
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What is that? You've definitely seen him. He's the old white, crusty dog that I used to. I used to play him a ton. I haven't done him in years. You did it for Garrett's funeral. Yeah. And his whole thing is just. He's just like, I miss the muffins. I keep living in spite of wanting to die so bad. Like, it's just like. I'm like, you see an old white Christy dog. There was a compilation I saw on Tik Tok of all these bits that I had done, and I was like, man, I forgot how much I love this character. And everybody was just replying in the comments with photos of their old white dog. Just like, they're like, oh, my God, that's, like, so. And it's like, that's, you know, the type of dog I'm referring to. And I'm like, they're always so sweet, but they're always just like, I'm so. Like, they're like. I meant I ended. They can't take me outside because every animal wants to eat me. Yeah. Like, it's just like, just. Just, like, so bummed out. Like, bummed and, like, not trying to take charge because he has no goals. Yeah.
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Yeah. I don't think there's one better than the other. I think sometimes one hits harder in, like. In, like, content when we're moving a mile a minute. But yeah, I love low status.
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It's really hard. But they are my favorite characters When. When you can nail it. Like, they're so fun. Fun, but they're harder.
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And they have to want something really big or else they become. They come off like some. I did notice early on in my, like, when I was doing characters at ucb, if they didn't have a strong want and they're kind of just like, whatever, it. It's hard to love them and attach to them.
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I think that's why it's so hard to navigate through our content with that. Right. Because we have to keep pushing stuff along.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that makes sense. I just feel like they respond really well when you have a bunch of high status characters. They balance it out, especially energies. It's usually like a softer, slower energy. Yes, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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I wonder. Yeah, I feel like Bit City. It could be fun to try to introduce more low status characters. I think that would be huge for it. But it's hard. It's hard to, like, come up with it. It's hard to think of them. You said before we started rolling that you have a bunch of character pitches from back in the day.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't know. How do you guys do it? Like, when you think of something, I don't know, we could. There's so much to talk about. Like, do you see something that makes you go, oh, that's a funny character? Or if you, like, meet somebody or you think of something. Do you. Do you have a notes app? Because I. All my friends have one note on their notes app. I create a new note for every character.
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Oh, that's insane, Angela. But I would have assumed that's what you do. And I do find everything, because now.
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I can find that the label is the character, like, Waitress who's being hunted. And you open it, and Waitress is being hunted. Waitress who's being hunted. But it's empty. Right.
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Okay. But that's just all you need. But waitresses just have a character's note.
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Because I'll never find waitresses being hunted. Now I kind of just go through, like, an Excel sheet. And Waitresses being Hunted came from one.
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Of our improv workshops for the listeners at home. It's not at all like an Excel sheet. It's a big list. It's a long list. There's nothing Excel sheet about it. There are no columns or rows. That's actually. It's 1B. Let's get Kian in here to tell us about Excel. This episode of Smoshmouth is brought to you by Rocket Money. Angela, do you know how many subscriptions you have?
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I have so many that I can't keep track and I can't figure out where they go.
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So you have, like, goals, and you have, like, your finances just, like, organized now?
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I love an organized dashboard.
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But I don't need to do anything.
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Back to the show. I just kind of made a new one for oh, that's fun Episode. Oh, that's fun. Oh, that's fun. Does anyone wish to share one? I just remembered I have a journal at home. What of my characters from high school. No, I love that, and I would unearth it, but I feel like I'm scared. Oh, I'm very terrified of Tennessee. Straight Chance.
C
Oh, I don't want to hear what he's creating.
B
No, we don't want to see those characters. I kind of want to see these characters. All set on that one. Let's have a bit city episode where we open up the journal at the beginning, and it's us going into the journal. Yeah, let's see.
C
Straight Chance. Build it.
B
Tennessee Straight Chance. Scary. Okay.
C
I have.
B
This is one Daniels of Chance.
C
See?
B
But now I have.
C
Because of this, I have everything dated, like, in October of 2024. I thought of Girl on a Trip with no itinerary.
B
That's okay. That's amazing.
C
It's like, they just.
B
I love real characters. One that I feel like hit recently that I did not expect to hit was. I think it was Noah in the stool and try not to laugh. And I came out just wearing sunglasses and, like, a weird hat. And I go like, I'm washing my hands at the. At a sink in a public bathroom. It's like, man, those fajitas and I'm just like, that's a real gu. Like, that is a real guy making conversation in the bathroom. I've also found when you talk about, like, appearance, like being completely honest, like, as like a very stereotypical, just white dude. Sunglasses and a hat can change so much depending on what kind of sunglasses and what you're wearing. Your hat, the tail, the hat itself is massive because, like the chosen has a specific type of sunglasses. But you change those sunglasses up and I'm a whole new type of guy. And it's like what I do think is common amongst white dudes with sunglasses is that. Thank God. Thank God. We're talking about the hard now.
C
And clip starts now.
B
Yes. White. If you have a man who's 40 to 70 years old and he is wearing sunglasses and you are out in public and he's walking around, he's going to talk to you, he's going to say something, and you don't know what it's going to be, but he's going to say something. Like, is that not the connective trope? And it's like the way if he's wearing a cap, how he's wearing the cap, it's like, now I get a better inkling of what he's gonna say to me. Okay, well, let's do a little role play then. Okay. All right, here you go. All right. You can wear it forward. I don't. I need the sunglasses. All right, well, we can.
C
Scott. Here comes Scott.
B
Find some sunglasses. Let's find some. It's gonna depend on what the sunglasses are.
C
Guys, I'm scared if we add props here, someone's gonna have to know. We can't.
B
Just the hat. Just the hat.
C
Okay, we'll put just that.
B
Forward. Forward. What's he gonna say? The forward. Forward, though. Like, this is a.
C
You can't find him.
B
It's a.
C
Come on, dude.
B
I can't see myself. But forward is a whole specific vibe, right? Yeah. Like there's. There's a maybe like more conservativeness of safety to this guy. Okay. Family oriented nature maybe. See, these are. This, this guy is cool. This guy is too cool. I don't think these are. These are not the type of sunglasses.
C
I don't think this guy's cool.
B
Scott. Literally, Scott, right now, no, you look like you work at the top store. And then this changes it. Now I'm at Valer. Oh, now we're at Val Surf.
C
Now we're at Vulum.
B
Yeah.
C
Is that a thing?
B
Yeah.
C
What's Vulcam?
B
It's a Skate brand.
C
Wow.
B
Skate brand. Okay, Skate.
C
Remember Rip curl.
B
What was it? Rip curl. Around.
C
Wasn't there a girl? Rip curl.
B
Rip girl. Yes, there Roxy was girl.
C
Rip girl.
B
And the. And the. And the logo is like a flip on the logo, and it's a pink.
C
Wave instead of a blue wave.
B
Yeah. 100.
C
And that was my first understanding of gender. Anyway, Here we go.
B
That's how it works.
C
Let's see it.
B
But this is a guy. And then this is a guy. Yeah. These might be kind of similar sideways.
C
No, these are different guys. One guy.
B
Oh, hell yeah.
C
Wait, put your hand. Put it backwards. This guy has bad taste in coffee. Put it forward. Good.
B
Great. This guy doesn't. This guy doesn't care about coffee. This guy's like, yeah, I'll have whatever. This guy's driving a morning beer, whatever. Yeah. And then this guy's like, well, you know, we need to get our crew together this morning. We need to get to the. The set. This guy drinks espresso tonics. This guy's. Yeah.
C
This guy drinks water. Turn it backwards. This guy doesn't drink water.
B
No, he drinks a bang. These are two completely different types of youth pastors. Oh, yeah. Yes.
C
And I've had both.
B
This one. Who is this? Is this. This.
C
He's like, let's. Let's get a slime pool for summer.
B
This guy's. I think this guy's just not thinking about a lot. We're gonna have, like, ice cream Olympics.
C
Yeah. And then this guy goes, let's talk.
B
About your journey with Christ.
C
Or this guy's like, I. I think Iron man represents Jesus Christ.
B
What?
C
Or like, some type of big metaphor with cinema.
B
Okay. Was my point.
C
Yeah.
B
Sunglasses. These are not the type of. These are. Ray Bans don't work as. As well as, like, you know, the types I'm talking about, like, sport sunglasses. You want that?
C
Like.
B
Like, that's a type of guy.
C
Who's she?
B
Oh, now this is. Put the glasses on.
C
No, I'll do that later. But who's she versus who?
B
Oh, she's cool.
C
God. This is a. This is an audio medium.
B
I know. I know. This intense.
C
Okay.
B
But it's. It's amazing, like, how subtle things change everything. Because, like, so many characters I want to play are, like sunglasses, but I'm like, so many dudes who look like me. Sunglasses are so much of their personality. Yeah. And so I'm like, that's a big thing. Like, that's a real guy. Or their car. Or their car.
C
I have one, and you kind of.
B
Know you kind of know what kind of car a guy drives based on the sunglasses he's wearing. Oh, wow.
C
I have one character that I've.
B
Tell me I'm wrong. I. I can't tell you. You're right.
C
I mean, that's a scary thing to open up.
B
Yeah.
C
That freaks me out. I think I'd understand the world a little bit more. I have this one character that I haven't been able to really crack. My friend Brett used to help me with him. But it is a. A guy. I think I have a tick tock of her. It's either a guy or a girl. And it's a girl with tattoos instead of a personality. But it's hard because that is low. That is like, the bit was that she has no personality. So it's really hard.
B
So there's nothing like.
C
I was just. I just like, play her and I'm.
B
Just like, so what does she talk about?
C
It's like, you need the WI FI password. Yeah, it's. It's WI Fi. What's up? You love movies. I do too.
B
I think, you know, I think you could get a little more specific than that because it's just all the, like.
C
Surface level, and I think it's like being covered. I think that's a visual one. That's a physical thing. And I think it's like. Because it was based off of this bartender we had who.
B
So, like, she's covered.
C
It was this one guy and he was gorgeous and he was making us our martinis and he was covered in tattoos. And we all. Just. Me and my roommates at the time just wanted to talk to him. And then we talked to him and it was just like, what? And it was like, oh, his look, it makes him so much cooler. And then we're like, who is that guy? And then we were building off of that. But that's like. That's just.
B
It's. Unfortunately, it's a trope that's been done to death. But you see it a lot in la, unfortunately. I'm not trying to be mean, but you'll see people who are just so ridiculous looking.
C
Yeah.
B
Where it's like, oh, you're. You're so, like, hot that your entire life like, that you don't. They got you into so many doors that you didn't have to develop stuff.
C
Yeah.
B
That doesn't happen all the time. There's tons of people I've met out here who are like. It's just like, what the. You look insane, man. And then they're like, the coolest person on the planet.
C
Because, like, hot people can be funny.
B
No, I draw the line right there. You're either hot or you're funny.
C
And where do you put yours and where do you.
B
Divergent. No. Like, it can all happen, and it's like. It, like, pisses me off when it does. But it's like, you know, it can be real. But you meet so many people out here who just, like. You're like. Man, you think you are so smart and so, like.
C
You think you're layered.
B
You think that. Yeah. You think that your personality is so deep because everybody gives you that. It really is the worst when they have such confidence. Or, like, have you ever been to an audition with someone or seen someone audition for an improv troupe or any type of scenario where they've gotten by on their looks? Yeah. And they've. They've gotten. They usually get the thing that they want because of their looks. Yeah. And then their day of reckoning comes when you're behind the judging table and their skills don't. Aren't nearly to the point that they should be.
C
I'd still pick that over anything.
B
What? I'd still pick what I got, if anything, to be them.
C
I should be down. Just let people down. But look stunning.
B
Yeah.
C
I'm kidding. Okay, so I'm reading. I'm reading my shit. Let me hear some of yours. Okay. I have girl with no girl on a trip with no itinerary, which I can't crack.
B
I love that, though.
C
But I can't crack that one because.
B
That'S a girl who's on her Eat, Pray, Love journey.
C
See?
B
No, but I think the girl who's. Who's searching. Sure.
C
But what I think's more funny to me is a girl like this is inspired by a girl on a trip. On a trip that I went on where I was strangled by the itinerary. So I almost think it's easier to play the girl that's like. And then we're doing this. And then we're doing this.
B
So you have to have the Wait. Oh, sorry. I was getting into the.
C
Exactly. But I almost think this might. Another take I have on this is a girl who needs an itinerary on a trip with people who don't have an itinerary.
B
Oh.
C
And she's like, so tough.
B
Are you and I.
C
When are we eating? Like, you know, I don't. I don't know.
B
Wait, really? I just need to know what's going on.
C
Yeah.
B
That drives me crazy. I love and. Sorry. You like, it. Are you an itinerary? I like an itinerary as a roadmap that we don't have to follow. Okay, that's great. We need rules. That way, if we don't know what to do or we don't know where we're going next, there is the itinerary that we can fall back on. I like that a lot. I think the way that, like, Courtney and I operate a lot is, like, we have, like, an itinerary day, and then we have a non itinerary day. Oh, we do that a lot. So how do you.
C
I kind of like that.
B
So what do you do on the. On. How do you figure out what.
C
Do you freak out at all?
B
No, because those. It depends on the type of, like, vibe we're going for. But it's just like, all right, we're just. Today we're just gonna, like, wander. Like, let's just go out and let's just. Like. And, like, there's no wrong answers.
C
Yeah, there are two.
B
And so it's kind of fun because then you discover things that you weren't planning on discovering.
C
Right.
B
Like, you go fully. Itinerary. It's like, we're gonna see what we plan on seeing, but what is there to see in the city that we don't know about? And then you find, like, the weird, quirky things.
C
Yeah. There are two edges of hell, and one is a bachelorette trip with a big itinerary and a bachelorette trip with no itinerary. And I've been to both, and I think I would actually pick the one with the itinerary.
B
Oh, yeah. For sure.
C
Because. And that's how I thought I was like, oh, there's a character here, but I haven't been able to crack it.
B
It depends on what the goal is, though, because if you're on a trip where the goal is to, like, see stuff and do stuff, it's an active trip. And then there's. I need to relax, and I need to get out of my head. And then it's like, you don't want too much of an itinerary, because then it becomes work.
C
But without an itinerary, I have trouble relaxing because I'm. Should we, like. You know, there's, like, a prep that I'm worried about. Like, I'm like, should we have made reservation? You know, it's like, sure.
B
I have. This is girl at a music festival getting hit by a ball. Oh, that's good. It just like, girl who gets hit by stuff is. I was at a Music festival. And they were these. The beach balls that you, like, hit up in the crowd. And there was this one girl, she's super short, like, shorter than everyone around her. It's like, you think she would not get hit, but the ball, I'm not kidding. Hit her from the front. She's like, oh. And we're like, all kind of laughing. She, like, picks it up. She hits it not two minutes later from the side, nails her. She's like, ah. And she's like, you can. She's kind of getting perturbed. She hits it up again. And it was like, two minutes later, and she was done with it. It came from a different side, but it hit this same girl. It wasn't targeted or anything. Love that character. Because if she's just like. Like, just kind of an in the moment, like, having fun character, but she keeps getting hit by shoes, we need.
C
To do that somewhere.
B
Running the setup should be like, it's so great. Like, I'm. I'm so glad to be on this date at this concert with you. It's like, yeah. She's like. She's like, I love Steve Aoki. And then it's like, you know, Steve Aoki's gonna hit her with a cake at some point. Yeah. And there's, like, two people next to her who have, like, hit me with cake. And then she's just there in the middle, and you know it's coming, and.
C
She'S like, it's okay. I'm sure it won't hit me again.
B
Have you. Have you seen Steve Aoki clocking people with cake? Wait, what? Oh, this is, like, my favorite thing on the Internet. So at Steve Aoki concert, it's a thing where at parts of his concert, he comes out with a giant sheet cake. People will have signs being like, hit me with cake. They'll have, like, big bullseye signs with their head in the middle.
C
Wait, I have to.
B
He'll come out with a gigantic sheet cake, and he just smashes him with. His aim is impeccable. He will throw this cake, like, easily 30ft. He's throwing it and nailing people in the face. Do they want the cake? Yes. Yes. People now want it because they know it's a thing that he does. So he comes out with these cakes, and he just, like, like. So then what? You're the idiot with cake on you for the reason. Are you kidding?
C
I heard this. That Steve Aoki seconds ago, and I'm a cake girl. I want to be slow. I just learned what this is, and I so deeply want to be hit with.
B
Oh, it's like Steve Aoki hit me with cake. A lot to unpack.
C
I don't even truly like to buy concert tickets, but I'm so seriously gonna look into it.
B
Oh, my God. It's so fun to watch because it's. His aim is truly unlike anything I've ever seen. He one time a dad had his son, his like probably 8 year old son on his shoulders. And Stevieoki hits the kid with the cake and it. And the kids are sitting like, I.
C
Want to be that kid.
B
I love that we can hit you with some kids. I love that. If she's just like the most peaceful girl. So chill. She's so chill. But she keeps getting hit by things. Like gets in her Uber. It's like a thing at the window and she's. It's strapped into the seat next to her. I love that her bed is like. She's normal. The world is wild. But everybody knows. Like, I feel like we all know. Okay. And they're always five feet tall. They're so small. A girl that stuff just happens to. Yeah, yeah. They're just like. Yeah. I don't know. Like. And they're just used to it. Yeah. Weird stuff just happens.
C
See, some of these, though, are dog. Like this one girl who doesn't have a birthday. Cool.
B
And she's pissed.
C
Like, was I up when I wrote that?
B
Zero years old. Yeah. Okay. Can I tell you girl whose birthday's on leap year? Yeah. And that's her whole person. Shut up. Okay. Can I tell you one that I'm very excited about? So I. I told Tommy about this? So you know the Pep Boys? You know, Pet Boys, the Auto Center. Yeah, it's the three. It's the three guys. Like, you know, I was like, what if we have a bit where it's like someone's car is broken down and the Pep Boys come out, but they're just like the Three Stooges. So it's like, oh, I need my oil change. They come out and they're. But they're just like poking each other's eyes and slapping each other in the face and like twisting each other's nipples and stuff. They like. And then suddenly your oil's fine. One of them puts their mouth on the tire thing, suck the oil out.
C
Throws a water balloon.
B
Yeah. It's just like. It's just like these idiots.
C
I had a guy come up to me at Jiffy Lube last week. Literally opens my door, right? Pull up, opens my door. He goes have you ever heard of James Cameron?
B
First he says to me, okay, but have you?
C
And I go, yeah, I met him once. What about that?
B
That's awesome. That's the most mechanic thing you could say.
C
Literally off the jump.
B
That's awesome. I still think about what Damien said about mechanics where it's like, it's the one job where there's no like, written down rule of how much things cost. They just are kind of like. Yeah, so I guess that costs it. Yeah.
C
Wait, they're just.
B
They're just free balling it out a bit.
C
City episode that just is set in a Jiffy Lube, actually.
B
Sure. Jiffy Lube Film on location. Mechanics are. It's like the one profession where they decided their personality is the same as it was 100 years ago. Like. Like, yeah, we're operating the same way we did back then. Do you have one chain? Okay, I really want to play this. This is perfect for. Try not to laugh, but I want to find other ways to do this.
C
Don't burn it.
B
Guy who's waiting on your machine or guy who's waiting. Like in golf. Like, just a guy who's waiting on. For you to be done. That is the worst such a thing. Go do something when you're. And I unfortunately have to be that guy sometimes when I'm like, I'm wait. It's the one machine. But like, there's just a way some people do it where it sucks. Where you'll. You'll just be there. Or like, say you're golfing or say you're doing whatever and there's just a guy nearby. Just like.
C
I. I know exactly.
B
This is not bad. No, no. Whenever you're. Whatever, you're done. That one is bad. Now once they've engaged. Yeah, yeah, no. I try to be on my phone. I try to not look. Yeah. I try to just be nearby so that I. Nobody else takes it before me.
C
I got iPad kid at the restaurant.
B
Oh, good. You would crush that iPad. Oh, yeah, just go. IPad kid's a real thing.
C
My fingers just covered in ketchup. And the iPad has to have one of those like, like those. It looks like Crocs. Like, like a Crocs case where it's blue.
B
Okay. But here's what I want. I'm gonna pitch off this iPad kid at a restaurant taking your order. So he's like, got the. That's what they do. He's just ketchup. And he's like watching a YouTube video while he's going to the table. He's got that pulled up as well.
C
I love that you did it, because I was gonna say I have all these lists of things that aren't really characters. They're just, like, half a pitch.
B
Yeah.
C
Someone to be like, boom. Yeah.
B
But I love that he's taking your order. But he's an iPad. He's like, hey, guys, what's up? And he's, like, playing some video really loudly. Yeah. I like iPad kid. But then you look over his shoulder and you see that he's actually solving, like, complex equations, doing, like. Wait. Oh, my God. This kid's a genius. I thought you were watching Mr. Beast.
C
Yeah. IPad kid actually doing Smash Pit.
B
Oracle baby. Oracle baby.
C
That's such a you thing. I don't even know what that is.
B
You get into the, like. Like a baby that. A baby that sees the future kind of. Okay. A baby that communicate it. I mean, can. Baby. How old is this baby? I'm thinking, like, baby, baby. Oh. So, like, it does things. It, like, kind of sees things, and it, like, kind of, like, tries to warn you, but it can't really.
C
Okay, wait, hold on. So it kind of, like, tries to.
B
Warn you, but it's just like. Like, what does it do? Like, it just has, like. It's a torturous existence. Yeah.
C
Wait, that makes me think of a.
B
Fun thing, like lift its head. Sorry.
C
I think of a lot of people who. Who don't necessarily do what we do, but love character generation. Are D and D people?
B
Oh, yes. That's a great D and D character. Like, okay, the baby. Oracle baby. Yeah.
C
And that. What's fun about D and D generating is going in from the spells or going in from the type of like.
B
Yeah.
C
Instead of like. Like. And I usually go the opposite where I'm like. I want to figure out, like, their state of heart and their status, and then I can figure out. So just something to talk about.
B
I like that I love. Yes. Mine's still physical. It's like, what does that guy look like? And how does he Coda. Yeah. Koda was.
C
Yeah. You wanted him to look a certain way, and I couldn't care less what Bug looked like. But I wanted him to be, like, not big.
B
Right. But that's also because. Yeah. I think the place that Koda's from, his society cares about what he looks like. He has to present a certain way because he's held to a certain standard.
C
But that didn't come first. What he looked like came first. And then you justified what he looked like. You know what I mean?
B
No.
C
Oh, no, it went the other way.
B
Yeah.
C
You went with your backstory first.
B
Yeah.
C
With your D and D character. That's amazing.
B
Yeah, I have. Okay. This was a sketch that I wrote a long time ago, but I. And it's more of a game than a character, but I think there's a character. There is couples therapist who wants to be their third.
C
Oh, that's great.
B
So, like. So, like, it's a couple's therapist. It was a sketch where, like, the couples therapist is, like, listening to this couple and they're talking about, like, yeah, we're having these issues. Like, our communication's bad. The couple's therapist is like, you know, maybe you should experiment with, like. Like, I don't know, like, having someone else in the bedroom. Yeah. Like, I mean, I could. I. I, you know, like, say it was me, but, like, it doesn't.
C
Yeah.
B
Okay, tell me why. I thought a couple's therapist was two people, and now I'm thinking, like, a couple. No, there's something so funny. Like, we're going to. We're going to a couple therapists, and it's like, all right. Kind of like.
C
She goes.
B
They kind of like, so. And how did that make you feel?
C
No, I was gonna say the exact same thing.
B
Yeah. You're so cute. I think it made me feel small, you know, like, there's a tilapia in.
C
The fridge from last night if you want to go home and eat that up.
B
Small. Let's talk about that. Yeah, I felt kind of small. I felt kind of insignificant. Everything is there. How are you guys doing? What? How are you guys doing? Oh, this is more about you.
C
Yeah, we're just here for.
B
You have tilapia.
C
Now we're just being mean.
B
No, that's really going to a couple service. It's like, oh, no. It's a couple who's like, I want.
C
To echo what my wife just said. How do you feel?
B
Yeah. Good, babe. Good, babe.
C
That's really good.
B
God damn. Do you have any people that you want to do, like, impressions of really bad? Like, like, celebrities or just anyone that you were like, that? I want to play them. I feel like there's someone we talked about recently that's like, we both always.
C
Want to play Pink.
B
Pink. I've never. She's a musical artist. Yes, I know. Pink. I wasn't expecting that.
C
Yeah, I just think it.
B
I think it'd be funny. You both came out as pink, and you have to compete to be who's pink.
C
You'd have to be. You'd be doing the. The act.
B
You'd be doing the twirling. Okay, I'll absolutely suspend me from the rafters. I've been saying this for years.
C
Oh, here's one that I have twice. And it's girlfriend watching her boyfriend's band.
B
And she's just like, oh, that's so legit. She knows all the words. That's disgusting.
C
She's like. And she's, like, barely moving. I tried to do her once live, and I just, like, played a song, and I try to keep it up, the whole song. And she, like, knows every word, but I kind of, like, lost steam a little bit.
B
It'd be really funny if the band is really shitty and their lyrics are really up and like. Like, really misogynistic lyrics where it's like, wait, he's talking about cheating on you. She could also get people for, like. Yeah. Looking.
C
Literally. Yeah.
B
Looking too close at the band.
C
Because that came from a personal thing where I. With my friend to see a band, and it was a guy she had just started dating, but she had been listening to his music. Like, she just. You know, it's not bad. She just like. No, she had a fat crush on him, so she started listening to his music. So we go to his show, and she knows every word. And I was like, you have to stop singing. You're blowing your.
B
Oh, man.
C
But it was so funny.
B
You are picking a lot of. You're making a lot of characters that I think are very chosen. Esque, Right? Where they're main characters. They're like, I'm the main character right now.
C
Yeah. I mean, I like, those are always everybody. It's like I said, it's always people that.
B
I'm like, the book is being written about me right now. Like, that's. That's always the best character.
C
Yeah.
B
About Mr. Mushroom. Mr. Mushroom. He's like, explain. Yeah, sure. He's like a big. He's a big mushroom. Okay. And he, like, gets mad when people, like, order mushrooms at restaurants.
C
Why is he mad?
B
Because he's a mushroom. Oh, so he's a mushroom. So he's mad. He's a mushroom. So he's like, you're eating like that. You're eating one of me, man. You're eating one of me. Hey, please don't.
C
That reminds me of Tomato Doctor, which is not a character.
B
Tomato Doctor. Oh, yeah.
C
It was. What happened when our old sketch team, where it was just a really bad pitch that I pitched, and I didn't realize, like, when you have a good enough team they're gonna make something really bad kind of work.
B
Yes.
C
And I remember being like, I had a dream. Tomato was a doctor, and they really. Oof. My stomach. And they really made it work.
B
I'm laughing at Tomato Doctor, where they come out of the operation room, and they're covered in, like, what looks like blood, but they're just, like. It didn't go well. Covered in pasta.
C
I got, like, a big red thing.
B
It was huge. And it was just tomato. It was just a slice of life. Like, we just really sliced it for tomato. That's awesome.
C
There you go.
B
That's awesome. It was straight up Grey's Anatomy, but she was a giant tomato. That's pretty incredible. Yeah. Can I tell you a celebrity that I really want to play? And I think about this a lot? Michael B. Jordan. How'd you know?
C
Let me guess. Whoopi Goldberg.
B
Michelle Yoon. Keep going. You're. You're. I'm gonna make this list.
C
Michelle Obama.
B
Okay. We got this. Whoopi Goldberg. Did you say that?
C
Yeah, I just said that.
B
I'll play her again. A sequel. Bring her back.
C
Okay. What were you gonna say?
B
Okay. Okay. Actually, though, Michael J. Fox. I. That would be awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I. Yeah. Like, if anyone knows who that is. Back to the future. The Joker. Huh? You're thinking of Mark Hamill. Oh, you're right. Yeah. You're just thinking of legends from the 80s. Yeah, I am. He does a great joker, though. Mark Hamill. Mark Hamill does. There's an old actor that I. I only know of because he was portrayed in Looney Tunes a lot.
C
Okay.
B
His name is Peter Laurie, and he. He died, like, in the 60s. Right. But he was, like, a character actor from way back in the day. And there's this iconic, iconic shot from Looney Tunes where it's him, like, at a table, just, like, looking extremely, extremely. What the hell is wrong with his face? He looked like. Well, he was a very, like, character actor. Like, he's very interesting looking. And he would talk very. And he would talk very interesting. Where he was very quiet, but, like, kind of had this, like, devious nature.
C
Him.
B
Where he talked be like, yes. It sounds so interesting. Like, it was like, kind of like a weird. Yeah. Like, I. I wonder if, like, so much of how it's portrayed is based on him. So much, like, characters were inspired from the way he talked and stuff.
C
But I like that one inspiration for you because that came from the picture.
B
Yes. Like, and, like, I remember how he talked. Like, it's ingrained in my memory. How he would talk, like at least the impressions in these Looney Tunes.
C
Yeah.
B
The way he'd talk, he'd be like, that makes me laugh. It kind of sounds like the bat from Anastasia. Yes. I think so many things are inspired from him, right? Like, because he. This was back in like the 30s that that character was happening. But I love it. And then I. It's also like, it's these low status types of things. And then another one that I want to portray and I'm trying to figure out how to do it is Edward Allan Poe.
C
Yeah.
B
I think would be so funny. Like, just as this like pathetic, kind of like a Mr. Muffins. Almost like Edward Allen Poe. Just. I picture just like the most depressed. Like, I feel like. Okay, okay. Gonna pitch off of it. Edgar Allen. No. Oh, yeah. Edgar. Why am I saying Edward Edgar Allan Poe. Yeah. Edgar Allen. No. And he just kind of says no to a lot of things. Yeah. He's just like, no, no, no. Are you going to the. Are you going to the game tonight? No. Yeah, no, I'm just gonna, like. I'm thinking about Lenore.
C
You're eight.
B
He's eight years old. You're eight. We're in a suburb. Toddler Alan. Toddler Alan. No, that's a good one.
C
I have.
B
That's a good one.
C
Shut up.
B
On autopilot. Yeah, it's a good one.
C
Shut up. That was good. Edgar Allen Poe just freaks me out.
B
She's funny to me.
C
She gives me bad boy.
B
Creepy. Well, yeah, he wrote scary stuff. Yeah. Wrote really scary things.
C
Yeah.
B
Oh, here's a character. Like the idea. Lee Mulligan. Oh, that would be funny. That's good. There you go. Do it. I. I just love. I think Tommy's Ripley character just really has inspired me and just like playing like old actors and characters that we don't really remember how they sound.
C
Yeah.
B
So you kind of have like free rein. It's kind of like Amanda's Babe Ruth where it's like. Yeah, we get the idea. We kind of know what. Yeah, we all think we know what he sounds like, but do we?
C
What do you think the Jersey Mike sounds like?
B
That's a good character.
C
I've had him down since 2022.
B
Jersey Mike.
C
But who, like, what do you think? What do you, like, what do you.
B
I don't want him to be a regular Jersey Mike. You know what I mean? Like, like, okay, imagine this.
C
Imagine this.
B
You're here, you're on a plane and it's like, guys, the captain is, Is the captain's passed out. He like, And. And we need someone to fly this plane. And, like, he stands up, he's like. He's like, I can do it, but I gotta do it Mike's way. And he goes, we're gonna land this plane.
C
Open the engine, drench it in olive.
B
Oil, some vinaigrette, sprinkle some oregano, baby.
C
Yeah. All right, where's my chair that I'm gonna sit on? Okay, Put some bologna on it. I'm gonna sit on it. Here we go.
B
Where's the tomatoes in this? I'm just laughing at, like, Mike. Mike being, like, the Sully in so many situations, but he's doing. He has to do it. Like, that's the thing. It's like, hey, he can do it, and it works.
C
We need to do a craniotomy. And he goes, we got a brain surgeon that could do it. I'll do it Mike's way, open up the brain, give me some olive oil.
B
And it works every time. That's so funny, Jersey Mike. I also love, like, people that we just don't. They're not, like, a real person. It's just the name. So, like, free reign.
C
Exactly. Like Edgar Allan Poe, like, yeah, Jersey Mike. Well, Jersey Mike isn't a guy. I bet he's a guy.
B
He's probably gotta be a guy.
C
A guy.
B
Queef latifah. Oh, nope.
C
Queef latifah.
B
No, no. Let's go, let's go, let's go. Chance you go, queef latifah. And I go, yeah, that's a great. That's a good one. I don't have that. You see me deleting.
C
In 2022, I wrote Girl whose boobs are watermelons and refuses to let her guard down. What's going on with me?
B
Well, if there's a fruit ninja nearby, guy who's writing a script at a coffee shop, because that's a person we see a lot, and they're in the corner, and they're not writing. They're just sitting there.
C
Oh, it died.
B
I feel like the guy who was writing a script at a coffee sh has now evolved into podcast guy. Yes, You're.
C
I think they're separate guys. There's very separate guys to me.
B
I also. They're, like, same guys to me. I feel like guy with a scarf on is a real thing. Like, it's only. You only see it in romantic comedies. Like, dudes are not wearing scarves. How dare you. Scarf. Scarf nation. Rise up. I feel like you're Just not seeing guys in scar, maybe. You know what? I can't say that that's me being biased by living in a hotel.
C
Really?
B
Well, even in winter time, you just don't see. But it's never cold enough here for scarves. Oh, my God.
C
Should we. Should we generate some.
B
Yeah, that's what I'm kind of doing now. I'm.
C
I'm off book, but I'm like, let's just like, okay. Ted, the loquacious gardener.
B
Oh, okay.
C
If you want. Or I can keep pitching. I got more. I got more.
B
Oh, let's hear. Your pitches are fascinating.
C
Yeah, they're all like, God. Oh, I. I did do this one on my Tick tock. Groomzilla.
B
Grooms. Oh, yeah. Well. Oh, so instead of a Bridezilla, it's the groom.
C
Yeah. But I couldn't really figure it out.
B
I feel like the nightmare version of a groom is always the guy who doesn't give a.
C
But I think that's like.
B
That's not nightmare, though. I think it's like, bad in a way. Right.
C
A guy who needs control and he, like, needs it to be a certain way.
B
Or a guy who just wants to correct. He doesn't want to make decisions, but he just wants to correct. Whatever that's.
C
But then when I think about that, I'm like. Like bridezilla isn't funny to me.
B
So totally the only thing that's funny.
C
About this is just turning it on its head and being like a man who's difficult. Huh.
B
I get that.
C
You know?
B
And that's why you scoff at it.
C
Yeah, that's why it's like, yeah. Like.
B
Yeah.
C
King Louie, the ck.
B
Whoa.
C
It's like Qu Latifa.
B
Some word play. Okay. Get them in a room together.
C
And then I just have a note in this notes folder that's my zip code.
B
What does it say? My zip code? Or is it your actual zip code? Okay, you just have your zip code.
C
I must have forgot it and been like, I gotta write it down when I moved. I don't know.
B
That is crazy. That reminds me of when I was a kid when I first heard about, like, Social Security numbers. And it's like, you need to have that memorized. And I was like, oh, what if I just got it tattooed?
C
Oh, my. This one. That one that I really want to nail. Is the wedding photographer guy at the wedding.
B
What is this wedding photographer?
C
Those guys are fucking ninjas. I actually would love for you to do it.
B
What do you mean they're ninjas?
C
Like, they're literally everywhere.
B
You don't see them.
C
And they're. And they're in like business. Cash. Right. And they just are all over. And it's like guy at the wedding trying to get the shot.
B
They have a lot of straps too. They have like all over.
C
Yeah. Or it's like we've had. There's a photographer that we work with sometimes, and he's always like, he's always taking pictures. He goes, now, now look over there. Oh, my God. Boss. Boss. Energy. Queen. Queen. Yeah. It's truly like, Yeah.
B
I love photographers because it's such a mindset that I love where they're obsessed with like just getting the photos of things right. And they're. They're almost like they're not self aware in a way where they're totally focused on the world around them. Yeah. They forget that. And it's why they're so good at like, kind of just maneuvering around because they're not trying to be seen.
C
It's truly a physical character where I could just like, they're just doing like, they're jumping and they're.
B
You know, that's really funny for like any episode that we do of just like, oh, and by the way, we have a wedding photographer here. They're just gonna be getting photos, so don't wor about them. And they're just in the whole episode just like around. And he's just going, yeah. And then we release the stills. That's really funny. They're all terrible. They're really bad. They're blurry, horrendous. They're like way overexposed. Oh, my God. This is not even a character. It kind of is though, because no matter who does it, how they do it, it always comes across the same to me. I don't want this to come across bad. All right, so on TikTok, you know how you can stitch things?
C
Yeah, yeah.
B
Have you ever had people where they stitch it, but they stitch it in parts where they, they, they cut it up so they're not just responding to the whole video. It'll be like, the video starts, it's like, here's my thoughts on this. And then it cuts to a person and they're in their car and they go, okay, this is, this will be interesting. And then it cuts back and I'm like, no matter how correct they are, no matter what the take is, I'm always like, I can't sit around for this, man. I cannot handle this. I don't know why I, I can't do it. And it's. It always like. I'm like, it'll be completely different people. But I'm like, but you come off the same to me. I'm like, just stitch the whole thing. Like, just sit and talk. Like, don't. Don't do the, like, in between thing.
C
Yes.
B
I don't know. It's just a thing. I've noticed that it's such specific. It's. Yeah, it's a. It's a very. I feel like it's honestly like kind of a. A Gen X thing. I see a lot. Gen X loves to do it.
C
Being like, I'm here listening and I'm judging.
B
They're. They're always there with their coffee cup and they're like, like, this will be interesting. And they're like. They're like, okay, no, that's incorrect, because this. But all right, continue. And then, like, it's just a very funny, like, snarky thing. And I'm like, I get why you're doing it because then you get to dissect things moment by moment. But I just. It just. I don't know. I can't handle.
C
It's a weird, like, let me put the camera on me so you can see me listening to this person.
B
It's weird.
C
It's weird.
B
Have you guys watched Korean dating shows? No. They have, like, a panel of people that are commenting on the show while you're watching it. I. The only thing I know this from is this is a Japanese show, but Terrace House.
C
Oh, yeah.
B
They cut to, like, people. They're just, like, talking about taking the same show that I'm watching currently. And I'm like, well, well, I don't. I don't actually need this. But then sometimes I'm like, oh, I didn't catch that. Thank you for doing that. It's very cool because they. They dissect it a little bit.
C
Yeah, yeah.
B
And then you're like, oh, okay, I forgot about some of that stuff.
C
And they're kind of doing a watch party for you so you could feel like you're watching it with other people. Right. You're doing the communal part of watching something, but you're still alone.
B
Yeah. It's really fascinating to watch, like, international shows and see just those subtle changes and how big they are. Yeah, it's huge. Yeah. But it kind of reminds me of the stitching together. It's like you're watching these people judge the same content that you're watching. Totally. I have Winona Slay Rider. Okay.
C
Okay.
B
I like that. So if Winona Ryder was on a sleigh or something. Oh, like, you're thinking, like, she's Santa Claus. I'm actually a dragon. Oh, no, no, no. Sleigh rider. Okay. That's slay. I think Santa is. Is an untapped market. How do you feel that way? I just think, like, nobody, like, people haven't played Santa in, like, in a new, like, a way that I wasn't expecting in a minute. Okay. So it's just, like, jolly about the guy from Stranger Things.
C
Oh, his. His scary Santa.
B
It wasn't a scary Santa.
C
Nasty Santa.
B
Nasty. It's action. It was cool. I'm talking, like, traditional Santa, but just, like. I don't know. I just think Santa's. Santa's. It's. It always feels still a little surface level. I want.
C
Give me something.
B
I want to see a little more from Santa.
C
A British Santa.
B
I want to see Santa. I want a movie that's just Santa and Mrs. Claus. Santa's American. Don't clip that. Santa's American.
C
I'm so sorry. Shame. One second. Santa's American. I couldn't even do it.
B
Santa in full army gears. Yes. You know, that's a figure. That is a. That is a Christmas ornament. Oh, 100 Santa's in every shirts. No, I want to see Santa and Mrs. Claus. I want to see a little bit more of how they interact and what's going on there. There. I. I need. I need. I just want to see more. I'm curious. I would love more Mrs. Claus. Like a. Like a goop type of Mrs. Claus. How did Santa meet Mrs. You like that?
C
Yes. Let's get the.
B
Let's get the me cute dude Hallmark movie of Santa meeting Mrs. It's like, you guys haven't seen Santa Claus, too. That's different. That's the new Santa because he killed Santa. I didn't kill him. He felt the roof. Yeah, well, Tim Allen killed Santa. His version of event.
C
I mean, to me, Tim Allen playing Santa is just Tim Allen playing Santa. There's no Santa. You know what I mean?
B
I want. I'm talking Santa Claus. You know, I'm talking real Santa.
C
Do you need your Santa to be old?
B
Yeah, but I. I'm fine with it being a prequel and seeing him younger, but, like, I. I want to. I want to see at least some of him. So you guys think he met Mrs. Claus before they were Santa, and Mrs. You think he was. They were old, but, like, you think it was like a. A golden bachelor situation.
C
When did he even start.
B
Imagine Golden Bachelor. But it's Santa.
C
I'm loving that.
B
Looking for a new Mrs. Claus because Mrs. Claus also fell off the roof.
C
What came first, the marriage or the Christmas?
B
Right? Oh, yeah, because, like, I just want to see that. I want to see that romantic comedy that full. Or actually full on romantic movie. And. And honestly, maybe some sex scenes in there. He just wants the porno.
C
Hey, wait. Remember, we've been. We came in for the Christmas episode. We'll come in for the smash mother Christmas episode. We'll write that. That.
B
That's true. We were gonna try to write a Christmas play, and then it. Like, we didn't have time, but we did. We started writing a Christmas play. Now we could write Santa meet. We have the store. Santa meet cute. Santa meeting Mrs. Claus.
C
And what if we did it like this? We had a working Google Doc.
B
Yeah.
C
That once every couple weeks, someone has to go in there. They can't read up.
B
They just have to keep going.
C
And then by the end, we just read.
B
How do you know where you start from? You start, like, you go to the end.
C
You like. You, like. You can't. Like, I don't know. I'm trying to find the easiest way.
B
And then you add. You don't go. You can't scroll back up. Or we could all. What if we all wrote, like, our little short versions of how Santa and Mrs. Claus met?
C
And we start.
B
It's an anthology of. Of which one's true.
C
I might write it a little bit every Saturday night after I've had some wine.
B
That's beautiful.
C
And then. See, that's beautiful.
B
I'm getting into wine. Did you know that? Oh, my God.
C
You were saying that. Top 10.
B
I'm trying to get into it. It. We're running out of time, but I will. I'm trying to get into it. I'm just trying to understand what's going on there. Try. Have you tried a Gruner. Vel line there? No, I just started.
C
I mean, Somalia characters. I do like Somalia characters.
B
Ooh, Somalia are great. Do they still have Somalia? Yeah, man.
C
Like, really nice.
B
Big. It's a big thing.
C
It's always someone that just comes right up to you and you're like, do you work here? You're in, like. You're dressed really nicely. They're like, yeah. Like, I had this one Somalia that was like, I never ate fish until I had this one bottle of Sincere.
B
And.
C
And, yeah. Anyway.
B
All right. Well, yeah, Wine.
C
Wine. Carrot.
B
I was like, all right, I'm. I'm going to drink a I'm going to try Coat durone. Cuz that's Amanda's favorite. She told me that one. So I was like, I'm going to try this.
C
And I was like, did you like it?
B
It was really good.
C
Coat Durone.
B
Yeah.
C
Never had.
B
There's a region, the R. The R Valley in France. So I was like, all right, I'm going to try to figure this out. And I'm like, all right. You have to like really sit and like figure out what you're tasting.
C
Like aerate.
B
I'm like, that's cool. Yeah, I respect it. I know. It's like such an ancient art work that I. The roan blend.
C
Yeah.
B
Grenache. Yeah. More Vedre.
C
Girl named.
B
You're nailing it. And one more. Sera. Sera. I only know. I only know that stuff. That's all I've learned. And then I tried to sincere and it was really good.
C
Oh, I'm excited for your journey.
B
Thank you. I truly was like, this will be fun. And I texted Amanda about it and she freaked out. She was like, oh my God. She was like texting me a ton because she's just like obsessed with.
C
That's so sweet.
B
Yeah, it was very cool. But anyways, Chance, thanks for being here.
C
This is a blast. If you guys want to see us do any of those characters, let us know.
B
Please. Shout out down below. If there's characters you want us to play, we will make it happen. And Shane, I can't wait to see Queef Latifah come to life.
C
It's gonna be awesome to see Shane do Queef Latifah.
B
Yeah. Yeah. If you guys really comment that a lot. And then, you know, if I do it, you just have to all be. You have to promise me you're gonna be cool about it.
C
How many likes?
B
You guys gotta promise that it's gonna be okay.
C
Just. Guys, you have to promise you'll be cool and then he'll do it.
B
The whole Internet will be cool. They said it's cool while you do it. It's not like, please don't replicate these stunts. It's like, please don't judge this guy. Please know this is just cool. This is chill that way. This is. Okay, don't get mad.
C
If this video gets a million likes, you'll be Queef Latifah.
B
Okay, thanks guys. We'll see you later. Bye.
Release Date: September 22, 2025
Hosts: Shayne Topp, Amanda Lehan-Canto, Chance McCra
This episode dives deep into the creative process behind generating, building, and performing characters for Smosh videos and related projects. Shayne, Amanda, and guest Chance McCra candidly discuss their approaches to character creation (from both physical and psychological perspectives), the challenges of evolving digital comedy, favorite personal creations, generational touchstones in character humor, and share a rapid-fire brainstorm of new (and sometimes intentionally bad) character ideas. The conversation is lively, self-deprecating, and filled with inside-process anecdotes, laughs, and the occasional tangent.
Throughout the episode, the Smosh crew is self-aware, collaborative, and playful with their craft. They are candid about both the constraints and freedoms of sketch and improv comedy in today's fast-paced digital world, sharing both specific techniques (notes, costuming) and philosophical insights (what makes a character real, lasting, relatable). The episode is a treasure trove for fans curious about the “how” behind Smosh character comedy—and an inspirational, often hilarious listen for any aspiring comedian.
If you want to see any of these characters come to life, let the hosts know on their social media! And, of course, hold Shayne to his promise about Queef Latifah... as long as the internet promises to be cool about it.
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