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Shane
Step into the world of power, loyalty, and luck.
Spencer
I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse.
Shane
With family, cannolis and spins mean everything.
Amanda
Now you want to get mixed up.
Spencer
In the family business?
Shane
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Amanda
Do a service for me.
Shane
Play the Godfather now at champacasino. Com. Welcome to the family. No purchase necessary VGW Group void where prohibited by law 21/ terms and conditions apply. Hello, and hello, and welcome back to Smoshmouth. I'm Shane.
Amanda
And I'm Amanda. And we have a special guest that we haven't had on before. Spencer Agnew.
Spencer
Well, thank you guys for having me.
Amanda
Is that your last name? Is that his name?
Spencer
Yeah.
Amanda
Agnew.
Spencer
I do really want to do a challenge where we all try and spell Angela's last name and, like, so you can get the closest.
Shane
Oh, God.
Amanda
G, I, A, R, R, R, T.
Shane
A, Z, X, Y, V. I think that's correct. Thank you, Spencer. Thank you for being here. Today is the gamer episode. This is all about gaming. So if you aren't a gamer, that's fine. Stick around because you're gonna learn all about gaming. We have two gamers here and one person who is not a gamer.
Amanda
Such a gamer. She plays games every day of her life.
Spencer
What were your top three games again?
Amanda
Grand Theft Auto. I think it was Vice City.
Shane
Vice City.
Amanda
Thank you. Trigger that out, 007.
Shane
Okay. GoldenEye the cool for N64.
Spencer
It's actually Asian under Fire.
Amanda
Very cool. And what's the fucking. God, Now I sound stupid. The Tony.
Shane
Tony Hawk Pro Skater.
Amanda
Thank you. I played that a little bit. Wasn't super into it.
Shane
So that's. And that's in your top three.
Amanda
Also on Gateway 2000, the mouse game where the mouse has to go through and chase the cheese by the castle. Thank you very much. And where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?
Shane
Okay.
Amanda
Hello.
Shane
That counts.
Amanda
Gamer right here. Stop the clock. I searched for Carmen Sandiego and had to kind of laser elevators to see if I could find her. Do you guys remember that game?
Spencer
You had the laser elevators?
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
It was like I never played.
Amanda
Okay.
Shane
I was playing real games.
Amanda
I guess the real gamer is here. Me.
Shane
But clearly, Spencer, you are the actual gamer. We know this because on Smosh games, we did a guess the game thing where we are shown an image of, like, a sliver of a screen of a game. And you were scary good at It. You knew games that I had never even heard of, like Legacy of Kane, and wow. You were like, oh, that's definitely Psychonauts 2. And you would be correct.
Spencer
I think I just. I kind of absorb that kind of knowledge like a sponge. Like, and it happens for movies, too. Like, you know, I. I can really, like. I can see a movie once, and I don't really forget that experience, like that movie or like, that game that I played. Like, it's all just. I don't know. Like, it's crazy. Sometimes you'll be like, I can't believe, like, you remember that. Like, you saw that movie once. I'm like, so that's kind of why it's. It's when people are like, yeah, I watched that movie, like, four times in a week. I'm like, that's crazy, because I can kind of recount it pretty easily. I don't know.
Amanda
I'm with you on that. Do you have a bit of a.
Shane
Picture memory, I think, photographic.
Amanda
Photographic memory? Is that what it's called?
Shane
Yeah, it's called a photograph.
Amanda
Okay.
Spencer
Picture.
Shane
Picture memories.
Amanda
You have a picture memory, I think.
Spencer
For movies and games, yes.
Amanda
I'm the same way. When people are like, oh, I saw that movie four times. I'm like, why? Why? Everything is.
Spencer
Yeah, it was the same.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
Yeah, I'll remember. I will, over time, start to fade out, like, small details, but I'll remember the gist of a movie.
Amanda
Oh, I remember, like, all the little scenes.
Shane
I have, like, standout moments. And I think I think about those moments so much that I forget other parts of it. Like, for instance, Metal Gear Solid four, there's a part where you're driving around on a motorcycle in Europe, and you hit this cool, like, ramp, and it goes slow motion for the first time in the game. You go through, like, all the game and it never. Slow motion. Suddenly it's slow motion for this moment. And my. My brain just thinks about that because when I was playing it, you know, young me was just like, whoa. Freaking out.
Amanda
Oh, so you remember, like, the really cool moment.
Shane
I remember the moments that really, like, got me going.
Amanda
You triggered a memory, actually, of another game that I played that probably me and my sister are trying to figure out what it's called, but we can't remember it. I definitely had a lot of computer games. It was just me on skis. Like, I played a guy on skis.
Spencer
See?
Amanda
Is that it?
Shane
See what I'm talking about?
Amanda
So you'd ski a mountain and that's it. And you're just like. And our whole goal was try to get to this side of the mountain. But you were like.
Spencer
And the Yeti comes and get you.
Amanda
Yes.
Spencer
Yeah, yeah. Ski free. It was in that collection with, like, the mouse game.
Shane
And then there's that pirate named the Skin Taker. And he shows up.
Amanda
That's the other episode.
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
Holy shit. I have a lot of questions.
Shane
So you played a bunch of games, like, on your computer when you were a kid, or you didn't play them a ton.
Amanda
We. Seriously. I grew up with, you know, there was four sisters, so we had Barbies. But my sister. My little sister was a gamer. Like, she was obsessed. Capital G. She played Age of Empires, she played Sims. Like, she had a little fucking gamer. Other than that, we had nothing. What is it called?
Shane
A little gamer.
Amanda
Shut up.
Shane
A little gamer. I can judge you for not knowing a Game Boy.
Amanda
Anyways, we didn't have, like, PlayStation until later, and my mom despised it. She despised it. She was like, turn it off. Yeah. We just couldn't get that cursed device out of here.
Shane
Your mom's a pirate.
Amanda
So piratey. So gate. The computer games were like. Because it would be like, oh, I'm type. I'm working there. Yeah.
Spencer
No, it's really funny, like, the absolute, like, the quality of games that we would play as a kid, kind of. Because it was like all that was available because you couldn't, like, download games from the Internet. Like, now you go on Steam and it's literally thousands of games released like a week.
Shane
And you own thousands of games?
Spencer
I do, yeah. I think I own, like, it's. It's crazy.
Shane
What if you throw out a number?
Spencer
I think it's probably 2000 or 3000.
Shane
But you know that you're not gonna play at least 1500 of those games.
Spencer
No.
Shane
Ever?
Spencer
I'm not gonna play. I'll play like a game a month maybe.
Amanda
Why do you have that many games then?
Shane
A lot of them.
Spencer
You just kind of. You kind of just wind up collecting them. Like, I'll see. Like, oh, like, I want to play that game later. And It'll be like $10. So you'll buy it and then.
Amanda
Is it all on your computer?
Spencer
Yeah, so it's all. It's all on this account. And you can open that account anywhere. So it's like I can, you know, put it on my computer at work. I can do. So it's like.
Amanda
So you're not working?
Spencer
Yeah, so I have like that.
Shane
Well, he is working. He's in charge of games.
Amanda
Oh, my God.
Shane
So yeah, technically.
Spencer
Did you ever read the Far side? Like the, the comics?
Shane
Yeah. That's where they'd have like cows sometimes.
Spencer
Yeah, it was kind of cow themed.
Shane
You've seen them?
Amanda
I've seen it again, like comic. Comic books. Like, so they were like in the.
Spencer
It was like next to the Family Circus. It was like in the, in the newspaper.
Shane
This is real gamer time.
Amanda
Oh, in the newspaper.
Spencer
Yeah.
Amanda
The newspaper was for me to see what movies were playing. Do you guys remember when movies were only in the newspaper or you'd have to call and listen to all the movies?
Spencer
Because I remember I'm not that old.
Amanda
But this is what has happening. Hello.
Shane
I don't know why I don't remember that.
Amanda
You don't? Do you remember the newspaper?
Spencer
No, I remember this.
Shane
Do you remember the newspaper?
Spencer
The only two things I would go, I would see what movies were out and then I would see. And then I would read like fucking Dilbert.
Amanda
Okay. I would read Dilbert. I feel like Spencer and I are very similar.
Spencer
Yeah. But the Far side. Anyway, there was this one cartoon and it was like this little kid sitting there.
Amanda
I know this one.
Spencer
Yeah. And the little kid's sitting there and he's like. And he's like. And he's playing like as a super Nintendo or something like that. And there's the parents behind him and like the dad's got like a pipe and stuff. And like they're looking like really proud. And it's like hopeful. And the captions like hopeful parents. And it's them picturing like this, like, like the, the job listings in the newspaper. It's like wanted gamer, like $100,000 a year, like salary, like plus Ferrari. And it was like all these listings. And my parents would always like bring that up to me as a kid. Like, oh yeah, like this is what you, this is what you think is gonna happen. Blah, blah, blah. And like now that I literally do.
Shane
Have a job, I love like shooting.
Spencer
That, that, that joke back at them. Cause I'm like, no, in many ways, I truly do get paid to be a gamer. In many ways. Which is.
Amanda
You do.
Shane
It's funny that you mentioned that you play a game a month because you are so busy making content about games that you actually don't have enough time to game.
Amanda
That's true.
Spencer
It's like, I mean, it's kind of the same with shows and movies and games. By the time I'm done with work, by the time I get home, I. I kind of just want to watch YouTube. Like, it's I don't really have the. Like, to me, watching a movie is kind of energy, or playing a game is, like, expending energy, like, it's thought or, like, you know, there's not, like, head empty.
Shane
What's funny is that I feel like you and, like, Damien are seen as more the gamers on Smosh. But I do play a lot of video games in my time. I just don't play the games that we play on camera that often. Like, I'm playing Legend of Zelda all the time, or I'll play. I was playing Vampire Survivors for a while. I did get hooked on party animals, though.
Spencer
That's.
Shane
That game was awesome.
Spencer
It's always really funny to see what you get hooked on.
Shane
I get hooked on and it ranges. But I've had a hard time with games that require a big commitment, like, our and stuff.
Spencer
But, like, I think, like, I know we always talk about Last of Us Part two, but I think, like, if that were to come out right now, I'd be like, I don't have the time to play.
Shane
I know, I know.
Amanda
I feel like Last of Us, my friend, watched all that gameplay. I feel like if it's really interesting.
Spencer
I would be down to watch, I think so. There's so many games that I would like you to see, because I think you would be into them. Like, I think you would truly be into so many of these games.
Amanda
I know. I honestly, I know that I would. I think when I get exposed, like, with D and D, like, when I get exposed to something, I am so into it because I love, like, mystical stories and. And my husband's a gamer. He plays games. And I'll. Sometimes I'll sit and watch and be like, ugh, I can't do this. But some of them, like Diablo, I was like, ooh, I'm fucking into this. This is, like, dark and spooky.
Shane
I would argue that if you enjoy watching Diablo, there's other games you would really enjoy, because Diablo's not that fun to watch. I would contend there's.
Spencer
Yeah, there's certain. Like, I would almost say, like, the. Like, the Last of Us show was, like, fine, but the game is almost like, even more. Especially by the time you get to the second one. I think you'd be really blown away by the fidelity and stuff like that and the storytelling at Expose Me. No, I think that'd be awesome.
Shane
I think it'd be great. Look, we have a whole channel where we can do it.
Amanda
I would absolutely love that.
Shane
Because what about a horror game?
Amanda
You know, I love that.
Shane
Okay. I mean, Last of Us, but. But there's, like, horror games.
Amanda
Like, horror. When I played Baldur's Gate with. Well, I didn't play. I sat and watched Damien do it. I was super into that, too.
Shane
Oh, yeah, That's a storytelling game.
Amanda
I love storytelling. I love characters. I love creatures.
Spencer
I love, love creatures.
Amanda
And I love creatures. There's horror, Horror, tons of horror aspects in Baldur's Gate.
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
Like a brain.
Shane
That's not a horror. It's not a horror game.
Spencer
But there are. There are a lot of, like, I. I am obsessed. And I was thinking about this, like, how many Just kind of how much I love, like, horror concepts. Like, as a. Because I'm trying to remember what I wanted to explain, but, yeah, just like, you know, like the concept of, like, that, like, worm infesting your brain. Speaking of. We were just talking about. Followed the House of Usher and that main actor, Rodrick, he gets the worm in him in the Star Trek movie. I don't know if you remember. He does remember. He's the captain who, like. Who, like. And remember they have the worm that they put in his ear.
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
So I watched a bunch of Star Wars, Star Trek.
Spencer
Never really watched, dude. The J.J. amores movies, they're good, unfortunately. Super fun.
Amanda
I've watched a couple of those movies. And also we were talking about that Captain Kirk's Face is Halloween mask.
Shane
Yeah.
Spencer
Oh, yes. I thought he meant Chris Pine. I was like. I thought he was hot.
Amanda
No, no, no.
Shane
Chris Pine, scary.
Amanda
The original William Shatner. But that actor from Follow the House of Usher does a lot of stuff. He's been acting forever.
Spencer
Yeah, I'm trying to. I'm trying to remember his name. I'm bummed. I can't remember.
Shane
Put it in the comments. Down below.
Spencer
Put it in the comments.
Shane
So you have. You talk. The games that you played were when you were a kid. So you have not played any.
Spencer
They've come a long time.
Shane
Have you ever. You haven't even played any games on Smosh games, have you?
Amanda
No, but I.
Shane
You. You're more in our board game.
Amanda
But I would. I would honestly love to, because during COVID like, H does these things where he's like, my birthday gift. Play Diablo with me. My birthday gift, Play Age of Empires with me. And I said, I think on this podcast that I played Age of Empires with him, and I loved it. But my whole goal was to, like, feed the. Feed the troops and build it up. And then I look up and H has, like, built A fucking castle around me and about to attack me. I like to build the world. I like to build and live in a world. So if there's a game that I.
Spencer
Can play, so many.
Shane
Look, the game that I always pitch to people is Stardew Val.
Amanda
Stardew Valley.
Shane
That Stardew Valley. Because you can't lose. You. You're just. You.
Amanda
That's the other thing. I don't give a fuck about winning or losing. Like, I'm competitive, but when it comes to winning or losing, it's too big that I'd rather just like survive and play.
Shane
Let me tell you the premise of Stardew Valley. And you're gonna. You're gonna love it.
Amanda
Okay?
Shane
Okay. Cause I was addicted to this game.
Amanda
Okay?
Shane
You. It starts off and you see your grandpa and he's sick in bed. Cause he's old and he's dying. And he gives you a letter. He's just like. He's like, hey, I want you to have this letter and I want you to open it up. Whenever you in life feel that you've hit a dead end and you want like a change. And so then it cuts to your character and it's very like pixelated. It's like old school. Like, imagine like 90s looking thing and it cuts to a building in the middle of a city. And you're at a cubicle and you're just sitting there typing with a bunch of cubicles around you. And then your character sits back and then you opens up a drawer and finds the letter. And you open up the letter and it turns out your grandpa gave you the rights to his farm near this. This town out in the middle of like this sweet town. And he gives you his old farm that. He's like, I want you. If you want this farm, it's yours. And so then you move to this farm and you then start off and it's this little tiny farm and it's. You've got all this land, but it's like covered in weeds and stuff. And you just start fixing up this farm and you have the town with all the people there, and you get to know all of them. And there's a story to every person that you meet. And you just kind of do your thing and you cannot die if you go out too late. You pass out and you wake up at your front porch or. So there's no losing in the game. You just slowly kind of build up your farm and you get crops and you plant them and you have to water them every day. And then you grow them and then you sell the plants for money that you then use to build up your farm.
Amanda
Like Oregon Trail.
Shane
Yeah, but it's even sweeter.
Spencer
It's like, it's like the end of. It's like if it.
Shane
It's like Oregon Trail ended in die. I like that there's no dysentery in Starry like that.
Amanda
But I will say it's fun to have an underlying of something coming and consequences also. I like that very much. I think that would be really, really fun. But I think the part of Age of Empires was like this little underlaying of consequences.
Spencer
Someone's in that fog that can come out and kill me.
Amanda
Yeah. Like I still kind of like that. Cause it like puts a fire under me. But I think, I think if I were to. I think if I were to play that game, I think I would be on it constantly. I think there's another side of me.
Spencer
That like you're afraid.
Amanda
I'm afraid to get into games. Cause I'm like, I. What if I lose my soul? Like I'm just constantly playing it.
Shane
Oh, get addicted.
Amanda
Because like I get addicted to shows. Like yeah, some, some like detective shows. I'll be up until like four in the morning watching them.
Spencer
Now this is, that is a good like you know, because I know a lot of someone's. I mean this might be. Get a little, I don't know like what the word is but like you know, gender stereotype. But like everyone's always like oh dudes. Like you know, they're came and they're like, they're up with their boys playing Call of Duty. But a lot of like women I know, it's like, you know, they'll play sims and they'll be doing like the most depraved shit until like, like staying up like all.
Amanda
I know those women, that's my sister and some of my friends, they're like, dude, fucking. I got pregnant. I was underneath the blankets, I was having sex. I built all these houses. I'm like, when do you sleep? Never. And I'm like, I can't.
Spencer
That was my friend with Stardew Valley. So she was like, oh, I've been playing a lot of Stardew Valley.
Amanda
That's what I'm worried about.
Spencer
I've been playing like dozens of hours. I was like, oh, that's crazy. And she invited me to her farm like cuz you can, you can visit someone's farm online.
Shane
Yeah.
Spencer
And I visited and like my switch literally like could not like it was.
Shane
Chugging like the, the, there was so much stuff.
Spencer
The hardware of the switch, like could not keep up with like how much shit she had built out.
Amanda
See, that's what I get worried. I think it's because the way I grew up as my mom was like TV and all this is going to like rot your brain. I get worried that I would get like trapped and addicted.
Shane
Yeah, I think there's a way to moderate it. What's tough with games and how you get addicted is that it's. Games are designed to kind of feed into your reward complex in your brain. Right. Of like, oh, I'm working on this thing and I achieved this thing and I got a reward for it. And you kind of keep wanting to like do that. If you find the right game that perfectly gets you in the way that you're motivated in the way you like to achieve things, it will be bad. I was at one point in my life absolutely addicted to a game to the point where it was a problem. And that was a game called World of Warcraft. And I was 14, I was 14.
Spencer
Years old with Tom Cruise. No Warcraft.
Amanda
What am I thinking? Oh, Worlds.
Shane
Yeah, that one.
Amanda
Pretty cool. I've got it.
Spencer
That's a great movie.
Amanda
I did not see the movie.
Shane
So at 14 I got super addicted to World of Warcraft and I was acting at the time, so I was homeschooled. So. And my school was online, so I could be doing schoolwork online, but I would just have World of Warcraft pulled up and I would play it for all day, every day. And I mean there was a year and you could see the amount of time you played. Now I would often just have it up on my computer where I wasn't playing. So that a lot of these hours don't count technically. But in the span of a year I had logged like three months of playing. That's right, yeah. And it was so bad that 15 year old me, that year it was December, 15 year old me was like, I have to stop. Yeah, I recognized it. I was like, I have to stop. And I, I uninstalled the game, I threw it out and I was like, I'm never playing it again.
Amanda
It's addictive.
Shane
I was like, I'm never playing it again. Now I've played tons of games since, but I realized for me I needed games that I can beat. If I can beat the game 100% agree, then I, then I can beat it. And I know it won't. I won't be addicted to it forever. And I'VE had a much healthier relationship. I don't think games are, like, bad, but I think people have to recognize, and this is anything. If you have an unhealthy relationship with something where you feel it's messing up your life in some way, then, yeah, you have to. You have to recognize that and do something about it. And that could be anything. But for me, it was that game and I. Dude, I was so. I was so addicted, man. And I. I remember it. The glory days. My. My Torren warrior.
Spencer
I was gonna. I was gonna ask.
Shane
I was a giant. I was a giant. Giant, like, bull, like, monster. A minotaur type monster.
Amanda
Oh, cool.
Shane
And so you would play. It was entirely online. And so there's tens of thousands of people playing, and you're in this big open world with tons of people playing. And I chose to be in the horde, which is the, like, bad guys. So I was orcs, undead, and I was a giant minotaur guy. Whoa. But I was a warrior, so I had a giant axe. And I joined a guild of, like, a bunch of other people. And so me and, like, 40 people would join up to go and go in dungeons and, like, fight giant monsters and stuff. And you're all talking on microphones and stuff. And, like, you have a part to fulfill and Ventrilo. Yeah. And it. It felt you had such an obligation. It kind of got to a point where it was no longer fun and like, oh, shit, yeah, my guild is meeting up tonight.
Spencer
Oh, you didn't go to the. You didn't go to, like, the. The. The Raid.
Shane
Raid. So you don't get the rewards and.
Amanda
Then you never actually really leave your house as a person.
Shane
It's. It's. And that becomes your social circle and that. And. And it's. It's. It can be. I do think it can be a problem. I don't think it is inherently, but for me, it was. And I mean, I. Without. Maybe it was shitty. I didn't even tell my guild, but I. I know. I think my guild fell apart.
Amanda
Your guild is going to show up, like, say, shit.
Shane
But it was so much fun. It was. But a lot of it was just this feeling of, I want to achieve this and I got to do all this stuff to achieve this. But I look at what I was actually doing in the game, and a lot of it's really dumb. A lot of it. I'm like, oh, I'm hunting in this area for these gems, and I'm just going in a circle for hours trying to find these Creatures to kill to get these gems so I can go sell them and get money and then go back. And it would take. In order to achieve something in that game. Like, I wanted to get a. Like a mount, a horse, but in. For my character, it was like a giant monster thing.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
It took me weeks of work to get it.
Amanda
And that's. I will say that's a good game because they fucking got you, though.
Spencer
That game is you have to pay monthly.
Amanda
What's your. What's your. What's your most addictive game? Spencer?
Spencer
I was addicted to World of Warcraft a little bit.
Shane
It was an incredible.
Spencer
So kind of everyone was, but I was nowhere near the degree of that. But it's the, like, addictiveness of games is something that I've thought about a lot. And because World of Warcraft is kind of the first one I remember a lot of my friends being addicted to. I remember watching my friend get addicted to call of Duty 4 in, like, real time. And a lot of it, I was kind of realizing was like, the sound design and World of Warcraft is kind of the same way. Like, there's a very specific sound. Like, when you level up, that becomes nostalgic. That becomes like. It becomes almost like you want to sound. It's like the slot machine thing where, like, you pull it in. Call of Duty, what they did, like, for the first three games, you know, it was like you would. You would join an online game, you would shoot all the people, and then you would. And then you would log off and you'd be like, that was crazy. And starting with the fourth one, that was when you would shoot somebody and it'd be like, plus 50 points. And like. And then, like, with that 50 points, like, it would be like, okay, now you're closer to level two.
Amanda
So it's all like that reward sound.
Spencer
So it's like that. It's a reward sound. So like now, like, in every Call of Duty, there's a sound, like when you shoot something and hit something, like, it's a very, like. It's a very distinct, like, tick sound that, like, your brain almost gets trained to enjoy. And then, you know, there's a sound for, like, if you get like, three kills in a row or like, what's that?
Amanda
Pavlovian.
Spencer
It's very Pavlovian. And, you know, World of Warcraft is kind of one of the first ones I remember. Like, makes sense, you know, just like there are these sounds that get stuck in your head and you just want to hear them because it's satisfying.
Amanda
It's like a TV show opening song.
Spencer
Exactly.
Amanda
That you get addicted to that.
Spencer
You're like, ooh, there's like, a little. Like, in Call of Duty, there's like a little guitar riff when you gain a level, and it just becomes. And then you go back and play older games, and when you're missing that, you realize you lose a lot of that satisfaction.
Shane
That's so interesting. It's a lot of it, I think, really got bad when games now have an incentive to keep you playing. Because back when I was younger, before World of Warcraft, which was. Since it was a monthly subscription, they wanted you to keep playing, so they were trying to incentivize you to play and not wanting to stop playing. But before that, games were just kind of designed to be like, we tried to make this great game so that people would buy it. And once you buy it now, they don't get any more money because we only just sold you that.
Amanda
Right?
Shane
But nowadays games have so much more stuff in them to spend more money on. They want you to buy upgrades. They want you to keep playing, like, have a subscription to it. So they are actively trying to design it to hit that reward complex in your brain to make you want to keep playing that next next bit. And it's not just a matter of, oh, I'm playing that game because it's really fun. It's.
Spencer
I gotta unlock the next.
Shane
I'm compelled to keep playing, like, a.
Spencer
Lot of, like, the. The two biggest ones right now. I mean, two of the biggest are, like, Call of Duty and Fortnite. And both of them, like, the main mode that most people play are free, but they'll do, like, season passes, which are, like. It'll run for a month or two. And if you get to. If you play during that time, you can unlock certain things that will, like, never be unlockable again. So you're like, fuck, I have to buy this season pass right now and unlock these things. And then you'll have, like, points left over from that one. So you're like, fuck, like, I might as well buy the next season pass because I want the things unlockable in this. And it just kind of becomes this vicious cycle. So this game that's free, like, Fortnite's free. And I probably spent, like, over $100, which isn't that much in, like, compared to what a lot of people have spent. But it's crazy because, you know, it's, you know, like, it's whenever, like, the, you know, the first one's Free. And then it's like, it's honestly.
Amanda
It's honestly brilliant.
Spencer
Like, it's genius.
Amanda
I will say, like, to me, when I play those games, I'm thinking about other things. Like, I'm thinking about the group of people who are creating the guitar riff. And, like, I'm thinking about these two guys in a studio. Like, I'm thinking about all those other things, and I'm thinking, like, wow, this is brilliant marketing. Wow, this gets this. So it's like, I would have to be really into a game to get immersed into it. Like, I will say, when I played Age of Empires was just, like, such an old game. But I loved, like, the travel aspect of it. I like when it's like a different layout, like a different frontier. And. But I think the spending money is. Is hard. I think that maybe would turn me off because I think it's the way I grew up. Like, TV was very limited in my house. Like, we weren't allowed to watch that much tv. And money was. We were very. Money was, like, very conscious. Like, we were very aware of what shit cost.
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
And. But just my mom was really intense. Like, we were the type of kids who would, like, if we heard our car come in, we'd turn off the TV and be like, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
Shane
So much more complicated nowadays with so many subscriptions and just, like, digital purchases all over the place. It's so easy for your wallet to just leak nowadays. And kids do, like. I'm sure it's preying on them sometimes, too.
Amanda
Well, I'm watching my niece and nephew, like, ask for my mom's phone or my sister's phone, and they. They're like, oh, my God, my phone has, like, seven new games on it. What is this? And I look at them just, like, consistently playing their games. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's just like, I. I also get, like, fidgety. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's actually hard for me to sit and read a book for hours because I. Amanda, get fidgety in a seat. Like, I would struggle sitting in a seat for that long. That's just. Yeah, I honestly think that's really the.
Shane
Biggest thing I. I am a believer of because I really like video games, but I am a believer of kind of like, I need to set aside the time that I'm playing it, and when I walk away, I'm not. And there's. I struggle with the kind of concept of just, at any moment, just being able to pull out your phone and just playing a game. And like, I think that can kind of mess up my brain. I'm not gonna speak for other people, but I think it's important for me to be like, okay, for this next hour, here's what I'm doing. But I'm not gonna be going in and out. And that's when it gets bad. And that's where things like a game or anything really can kind of start spreading and taking over your life in a bad way. But that's my take on it, but I've fallen victim to, to it, you know?
Spencer
Have you ever played any mobile games?
Shane
Like games on your, on your phone? You got games on your phone?
Spencer
Have you got.
Amanda
I have zero games on my phone.
Shane
Have you ever had a game on your phone?
Amanda
I had the Snake game on my Nokia when I was 16.
Shane
Okay.
Amanda
Pretty sick. No, I, I'm just really intense. I'm really intense about, I have a time limit on Instagram.
Spencer
Wow.
Amanda
Like, I'm really intense about my phone. I, I, I don't know what it was, but I like, I get ill. Like I feel sometimes though, I'll be like, I want to go on Instagram and I want to fucking laugh. I want to laugh at funny videos and I'll let myself, I'll give it. And then when I get off I'm like, I don't feel good. Like I, I truly cannot play games on my phone. I just fucking, I don't know, it's just like not, I, I didn't really do it as a kid. I genuinely think because I wasn't really allowed to have that much screen time as a kid that it put me in this other.
Spencer
See, I think mine was kind of the opposite. Like I played, I, I was not allowed to have a, like a, an in home console and we also didn't have like cable wowing up.
Shane
You don't have anything.
Spencer
And like I also like wasn't allowed to like Pokemon cards and I mean now look at me, I'm all fucked up.
Shane
Damn. You're, you're, they tried and see I had all of it.
Spencer
I think it kind of backfired.
Shane
I had all of it as a kid but I kind of ended up, I feel like in the middle. Hey, just a quick break to let you know. This episode is brought to you by Factor. You know, this holiday season things are going to be jam packed and Factor America's number one ready to eat meal delivery service is here to help you have chef prepared dietitian approved delicious meals delivered straight to your door that can help you achieve your health goals and not getting in the way of your busy schedule. It's pretty great. I'm a big fan, and I know, Amanda, you are too.
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Shane
Back to the show.
Amanda
Here we go.
Shane
Before we hop in, I should just give you some context about what's about to happen. You see, Spencer and I know a lot about video games, but Amanda knows nothing. So because of that, we decided to prank her and convince her that the plot of the video game Five nights at Freddy's is a true story. So enjoy.
Amanda
I don't think it's good to be so restrictive, but for me, my obsession lies in, like, movies. I love movies. My favorite thing is to, like, find a good movie. I also love to rewatch my favorite classic movies. I love international series. Like, I have an addiction to that.
Shane
We all have a love for movies here. I think we're the three. I think I'd say of the cast, us three are the most movie people. Like, I feel like that's fair. I mean, everyone. Everyone loves movies, But I think us three are, like, we watch all sorts and a ton.
Amanda
A ton of movies. Those are my addictions.
Shane
Are you gonna see Five Nights at Freddy's?
Amanda
Freddy Krueger?
Shane
No, no, it's. It's this. It's this weird story that is based on a true story.
Spencer
Yeah, it's. I know y'all did, like the horror thing, but it's like. It's. It's truly like one of the most fucked up stories like. Or like one of the like.
Amanda
So it's a true story.
Spencer
So. Yeah, the movie is like based on this true story. Like so what happened was there was this guy who. It's basically Chuck E. Cheese. And what happened was there were these kids that pulled a prank on this other kid. Yeah. And they put his. The kid hated. It was like a birthday party and the kid hated animatronics. And so they were like, I saw.
Amanda
The trailer for it.
Spencer
Yeah. But this like. I don't think they'll do this in the movie. Cause it's like, it's dark.
Shane
I thought it was one of the kids of. The owner of it put the other kid in. In the suit or like so he.
Spencer
So they, they were pranking the kid and they put his head in the suit. But they were like these like. It's called like a.
Shane
It's called like a spring lock or something.
Spencer
Yeah, like a spring trap.
Shane
It was these. Because it was this like kind of experimental type of suits. The. The guy who created it, like really? I don't know. But. But it ended up. It ended up, I think killed the kid.
Spencer
So basically the jaw like snapped on the kid's head.
Amanda
Did he die?
Spencer
He died. Not immediately. They like took him out.
Shane
I think he died later. But then the owner, the real story is that the owner like lost his mind. And then the owner. And I don't know if it was proven, but the owner ended up killing like more kids.
Spencer
The owner killed kids and would like.
Amanda
Whoa, how did I miss out on this true crime story?
Spencer
There's this guy, his name's Matthew Patrick and he like has this YouTube channel and. And he'll like. He kind of like goes into it.
Shane
Cuz he goes into. He's a true crime youtuber and so he goes in on all of these types of things and he. He does a full in depth thing about. About.
Amanda
Whoa.
Shane
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Spencer
Yeah.
Shane
And I wonder, I've always wondered if it was very covered up because places like Chuck E. Cheese and Disney still exists. Didn't want that type of connotation. So that's how it kind of got pushed. This is all in the 80s. I mean, I think it. The Internet's also. Yeah, the Internet's also built a ton of lore. And so, you know, for a lot of this, it's all just a theory. But it really got nuts. And I think there were more. Where the Internet got nuts was that they were saying, like, that the animatronics were at a certain point doing it on their own. Yeah, like.
Amanda
But, well, yeah, the Internet. You have to be really careful with the Internet and crime stories because they go off. And it's funny because I was gonna come back at you guys with all.
Shane
My murder shows and we knew it.
Amanda
And you guys never knew this one before me.
Shane
You had never heard of Freddy Fazbear.
Amanda
I hadn't, but what I was saying is, like, you know, like the, the murder show about the Hotel Cecile. The Cecile Hotel. It, it turns out that, like, all of that was just like web sleuths, like, their opinions. So I, I, I sometimes I stay away from commenters, but there are some people who are pretty on point, like on TikTok and YouTube, that you're just like, holy.
Spencer
Matpat's pretty good.
Shane
He's Matpat. Yeah, that's his name.
Spencer
But yeah. So, well, after the bite of. It's called, like, the bite of 83. Like, if you look up, like, the bite of 83. But then, like, the thing was like the. So this is kind of where the movie comes in. Because the thing was like, the owner killed these kids and put them in the animatronic suits so that he put.
Shane
Their bodies, he would hide the bodies in there.
Spencer
But obviously possession's not real. Blah, blah, blah. That's not real. But then the movie's like, oh, but what if those suits were like, it.
Amanda
Took it another step.
Spencer
Possessed. Blah, blah, blah.
Amanda
See, you talk about getting addicted to games. That's what I get addicted to.
Spencer
Like, these stories.
Amanda
Angela and I, we always trade stories. But I will go for hours digging into. Oh, I go rabbit hole so deep. I also go rabbit hole. Like, if I'm watching a movie and I see someone that I like, an actor I'll go on a rabbit hole in their life.
Spencer
Yeah.
Amanda
So I get nerdy when I watch movies. I'm like, oh, yeah, that guy was with this person and he did this other movie and that director, blah, blah. And my sister's like, can you just. That's what I get nerdy about. I get nerdy about.
Shane
So what we're talking about is something you would technically nerd out about.
Amanda
Oh, you know. You know, later I'm gonna fucking Google shocked.
Shane
You haven't heard about it.
Amanda
The bite of three.
Spencer
Yeah.
Shane
Well, I thought it was the bite of 82.
Spencer
No, there's the bite of 83.
Shane
It's bite of 83. Yeah. No, I. It's well known. It's super well known. Yeah. You would love Matpat stuff.
Amanda
Matpat. Great name.
Shane
Yeah. True crime.
Amanda
Yeah. True crime is my geek.
Shane
How you've missed out on arguably the best true crime channel on YouTube.
Amanda
Wow.
Shane
Yeah. Looks like we're the experts.
Amanda
I don't think so. I don't think so. I wrote down.
Spencer
He was. He's been on the channel a couple times.
Amanda
Okay, guys, I get it. All right? Fucking. I get it.
Shane
It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Hey. Hey. This was Pat.
Spencer
This was a long time ago.
Shane
This is a long time ago. This is the 80s.
Amanda
I'm gonna come in with a matt. Pat.
Shane
You're gonna. You're gonna know. You're gonna come back in tomorrow, and you're gonna know everything about Freddy fazbear. Pate of 83 hat and what was that? William Afton was the name of the guy.
Spencer
Was the. The.
Shane
Yeah. William Afton.
Amanda
I can't believe I missed out on that. Sometimes I. And be like, what is this about? Night Stalker. Hmm. Like, sometimes I'll miss out on huge ones. But, like, the small random, like the murder in, you know, Cork, Ireland or something, I'm like, oh, I know everything about that.
Shane
This all happened in Utah.
Amanda
Utah. Oh, Utah, man. Why. Why do so many murders happen in the, like, Utah, Illinois, like, nothing else.
Spencer
Going on out there. Yeah, it's all the damn repression.
Amanda
They tried to true east coast, too.
Shane
Utah tried to have one. Utah tried to make their own Chuck E. Cheese. And this is how it went.
Amanda
Oh, God.
Spencer
I have thought a lot about, like, the. I don't know what the word is, almost like, the concentration of horror writers that come out of, like, Maine and Massachusetts, like, stuff like that. I mean, you have like, all of, like, the biggest, like, horror creators have kind of come out of there. It's almost like how crazy it is, the amount of music that comes out of, like, England for how tiny it is. Like, there's so many, like, English artists, English actors.
Shane
It's because they talk like this.
Spencer
Yeah.
Shane
It's like, you gotta sing. You don't wanna hear him talk, mate.
Amanda
You reckon that we should sing also? I feel like for now I'm going into Irish, but I feel like for actors, they're in England because they take acting on another level, like, very theater y, very serious. And Ireland, who comes out of that?
Spencer
Colin Farrell.
Amanda
Colin Farrell.
Shane
Just Colin Farrell.
Spencer
Just Colin Farrell. The one is Saoirse Ronan. Is she Irish?
Amanda
Saoirse Ronan.
Spencer
Saoirse.
Amanda
Saoirse Ronan.
Spencer
But I think there is something super pleasant about when English or Irish or, you know, Scottish actors do an American accent. I think it almost hits different. Like, they do it better. They're focusing on words in a very different way. Like, they're almost. They have to be more intentional. And I think a lot of that pays off in a very subtle, like.
Amanda
But do you agree that they sound a little bit more East Coast?
Spencer
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Amanda
You know what I mean? Like, Chris Hemsworth. Like, like. Or maybe that's just Australia.
Spencer
He does a pretty good bro.
Amanda
Like, a little bit more like, East Coasty. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe that's just me.
Shane
Yeah, it's probably just you anyways.
Amanda
Pretty cool.
Spencer
You ever heard Dan Stevens do his American accent?
Amanda
No.
Spencer
It's crazy.
Amanda
I can't wait to hear it.
Spencer
Yeah.
Amanda
Matpat bite of 83. Dan Stevens.
Spencer
Dan Stevens.
Shane
You're coming as an expert.
Amanda
I have fucking homework to do, but nothing on games. Actually, I really do. If you were to show me, like, three games that I could watch, I.
Spencer
Would love to do that.
Amanda
Or play. Can we do that?
Shane
We could play some games on Smosh games. I mean, this is your decision, Spencer, but we could play some games on Smosh games where it's like introducing you.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
To a huge franchise. So people who are into it would be like, oh, my God.
Spencer
I've always wanted to do. I know. Sorry to throw on main, but, like, Kiana, because Kiana knows, like, almost nothing about games and, like, arguably a lot of movies. And I'm like, you are, like, the perfect.
Amanda
Like, Kiana and I should.
Spencer
Yeah. Like, like, person to be like. Because she's like. She had never seen, like, Jurassic Park. I was like, that's.
Shane
That's insane.
Spencer
That's insane. It's almost like. It's like, oh, have you ever Heard the story of, like, Jesus. It's like, no, it's like, oh, let me tell you this crazy story.
Amanda
I can't handle that. I also will say, being married to someone not from this country, he hasn't seen a lot of the. Like, we watched Good Will Hunt. He watched Good Will Hunting for the first time with me, and I was just like. And Hocus pocus. Do not show someone Hocus pocus for the first time. Now don't. It's not great because they don't like it.
Spencer
Yeah, it's not.
Amanda
He was like, this movie's weird and wacky. And I'm like, huh? And also Death becomes her. One of my favorite movies ever. Don't show someone who's never seen it back in the day. Because if you're. I think movies in, like, the 80s and 90s, they don't translate unless you've seen it before.
Shane
Unless you have that nostalgic memory to it. Yeah, it's tough. And you're biased if you watched it when you were young. Yeah, it's hard. Then they're like, this is silly.
Amanda
And you're like, what?
Spencer
I think it does require a certain, like, suspension of almost like, you know, this is another can of worms. But it's like when you show someone anime, it's like there's so many things where it's like, if you watch anime, it's like, yeah, that's like, kind of par for the course. Like, where someone who doesn't watch it, watching, they're like, what the fuck is this? Like, that's weird as shit. Like, why? What's the part of that? And it's like, if you get hung up on those. But there's just certain. You almost build up a tolerance. And I think, you know, this is like, so goofy of us for saying this, but, like, even 80s and 90s and like, even, like early 2000s movies, just the things they're saying. If you watch a movie before, like, 2010, 10, you like, I usually like. It's like, like, if you give them. You give them a certain amount of time. A comedy movie from before 2010, there's certain words they will say. It's like, I give them 30 minutes before they say that word.
Shane
It's tough. Comedies, 10 minutes. Comedy's pre 2010, you're just not going to get through it without there being something that's like, yeah, that doesn't work nowadays.
Amanda
So do you think movies back in the day are the same as, like, games back in the day? Do games translate as cringy?
Shane
Now, that's actually a great question because I try to replay games from, like, pre. I mean, honestly, sometimes it's like pre 2015, and I'm just like. It's just hard. It doesn't. They've improved so much that, like, this happened to me. You're not going to know what I'm talking about. But there's a game called BioShock. Have you played BioShock Biodome? No. There's a game called Bioshock, and it's so popular. People who've played this game love this game. It's got a whole community around it.
Spencer
Or Verbinski was gonna make the movie. It was gonna be sick as hell.
Amanda
Cool.
Shane
It's a really cool premise where, like.
Spencer
Back in the day, the Caribbean and shit.
Amanda
Oh, amazing.
Shane
It's a cool premise, basically, like, back in the day, super rich people created this utopia at the bottom of the ocean, but then they all went fucking nuts. And. Yeah, it's.
Spencer
It's honestly, like, it would have. It's one of the coolest, like, concepts.
Shane
Yeah.
Spencer
Of all time.
Shane
It's a great game to watch.
Amanda
So BioShock doesn't really translate.
Shane
So I tried to play it years after it had come out. It came out in, like, 2007.
Spencer
Yeah.
Shane
Around. Around that time. And so I tried to play it, like, close to a decade later, and I beat it. But I remember just kind of being like, all right, like, cool. There's so many games that have taken its formula and improved on it since. It's kind of like when you watch an old black and white movie and people are like, oh, I love that movie. But I'm like, yeah, but it sucks now. Like, it's. It's cool. I get it. I get that it. This is where so many other ideas came from. But as far as entertainment goes, we have made things more entertaining, at least for my modern brain. Right. And there's certain old movies and old games that for the time you're like, oh, my God, this is incredible for.
Amanda
And they still. I would say that they still translate.
Shane
They still translate.
Spencer
There's definitely, like, black and white bangers. Like Casablanca is incredible, like Roman Holiday.
Shane
But it's a different type of thing.
Spencer
It's a different, like, you know, different vibe. Different. I mean, the. The medium was still, like, in its infancy. And that's what you gotta remember with video games. It's like, you know, they've only been around since, like, the 70s.
Amanda
That's true.
Shane
Yeah.
Spencer
Even in the 70s, it was, like, primitive.
Shane
That was Pong Yeah.
Spencer
What.
Amanda
So what game was like back in the day still translates now that people still love.
Shane
Okay, what games. What games from. From older times are still just as good now and someone could pick it up just now and play. I would argue. I would argue. First off, I think the Super Mario Brothers games are actually.
Spencer
I think those have aged. Especially when you go back and you play like the other ones from the era. Like you play. I don't know if you played any of like Spyro the Dragon or Rayman or Donkey Kong or. Or Nope. What was the other one?
Amanda
Maybe at like a friend's house.
Spencer
But not enough like Banjo Kazooie. Even like all these games like they just do not play as well as like the Mario games. Cause you can put like anyone down in front of a Mario game and it's still like it handles beautifully and that's like, that's something. So that's basically what.
Amanda
So Mario Mario.
Shane
I think like I would say like Super Mario Brothers 3. Like going old school. Like the one. The side scrolling ones. You're jumping on Goombas and Turtles. I think.
Amanda
Oh, we play that on the games channel.
Shane
We have, we have next to our. In our games pod where we work, we have a tiny little TV screen with a Super Nintendo and we have those games Tim's been playing Link to the Past. He comes by and sits down and plays that for a while. I think that could be one game that could introduce you here. I'm going to. I feel like as I'm thinking of games that.
Spencer
Yeah, no, I feel like.
Amanda
I feel like Spencer, you're not gonna be able to see.
Spencer
Yeah. You know, let me get other.
Shane
No, you're not glasses. You're not chosen enough other games that could introduce you to the medium. That's tough. Definitely Super Mario Brothers. I would argue.
Amanda
What's your name?
Spencer
I am the chosen.
Amanda
Okay, great.
Shane
Other old school games that hold up super freaking well. Crap.
Spencer
The early works of Shigeru Miyamoto.
Shane
Yeah, definitely Zelda. I would say the, the original Zeldas. I would argue that Ocarina of Time hasn't aged well.
Amanda
Ocarina of Time. Yeah, that's fun.
Shane
Have you heard of Ocarina of Time?
Amanda
I've heard that it's time to. For me to go back upstairs and leave you boys down here.
Shane
Get. Okay, can you get us in our bunk room?
Amanda
You know what? It's time for me to get the pizza bagels and bring them back down here.
Shane
It's Bagel bites time.
Amanda
No, I haven't heard of that. All knowing one. Have you heard of any Ashley Judd thriller movies?
Shane
Yes.
Spencer
Along came a spider.
Amanda
I told you that before we started. Yeah, and it was a trick because I don't think she's in that one.
Shane
She's in. I definitely have seen some Ashley Judd movies and I'm just trying.
Amanda
Double jeopardy.
Shane
Yes.
Amanda
The Girls.
Shane
Yeah, there you go. Is Kiss the Girls.
Amanda
The freedom. Kiss the Girls is a thriller to the max.
Shane
Weird name for a thriller.
Spencer
To me, any romantic film is a thriller because frankly, it's a little scary.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
Well, have you seen Akira?
Amanda
No.
Shane
Have you seen Paprika?
Amanda
That's a spice.
Spencer
Have you seen Sweet Home Alabama?
Amanda
Yes, I have.
Shane
Okay, well, there we go. We've seen. We've seen some stuff.
Amanda
And that guy, the lead actor of that is the Home Depot boys. Pretty cool. See, those are the things I know. Anyways, do you guys want iced tea?
Shane
Okay.
Amanda
You guys want iced tea? Where are you looking?
Shane
I was looking all over the place.
Spencer
My eyes were closed.
Shane
Yeah. Oh, anytime I'm playing the Chosen, my eyes are fully closed.
Amanda
Oh my God, I feel so much better. Cause the Chosen is just like all knowing.
Shane
What did you think of dudes who played video games when you were younger? Would you judge people for it?
Amanda
Nope. I genuinely. Cause my little sister played video games all the time. I genuinely just thought it was another world. I was like, man, I'll never understand that. It was more like I got written off right away. It was like, you wouldn't know what's happening right now. It was like, you wouldn't know. So when my brain went, you're right, I wouldn't know. So I'll never do it. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I've been bullied my whole life. No, I'm just kidding.
Shane
I'm kidding.
Amanda
I always wanted to play, but I. I'm very different now. But when I was younger, I didn't want to mess up, so I would less try to go out and experiment things because I was like, well, if I don't know it, I don't want to mess up. Whereas now it's like, oh, fuck it, I'll try it. Cause I don't care as much about messing up. But like, I think back then it was like, oh, they said I could never touch it, so I probably won't be able to. Like my little sister was like, you wouldn't get it.
Spencer
Were there things. This is kind of a bigger question, but like, were there things you were judgmental about growing up? Cause I feel like you're so non Judgmental. But it's like, did you see, like, maybe Pokemon cards? And you're like, that's nerdy.
Amanda
Nope.
Spencer
Interesting.
Amanda
Judgmental about. I mean, my sister loved Marilyn Manson, but I didn't. I wasn't really judgmental about that.
Spencer
Be judgmental about it now.
Shane
I think you could be.
Amanda
Now I am. Honestly, I was a little bit, like, what a nerd to my little sister who was obsessed with karate. I mean, she slept in her karate uniform.
Shane
Okay, that.
Amanda
She was a little bit, like, that's fair.
Shane
That's fully insane.
Amanda
Get away. But I was such, like, a little freak when I was little. Like, such a little nerd because my dad gave me a video camera and I stopped the world to make little commercials when I was younger. Like, my sister, I would make her fucking drink Folgers and be like, folgers in your. Like, I was a. I would take.
Shane
I guess you couldn't judge anyone.
Amanda
I was a freaking loser freak. Like, I. Loser in a good way. Like, I.
Shane
That's not that crazy.
Amanda
I know, but, like, that. I didn't have time to be like, ugh, you're so annoying. Like, I didn't give a shit about fashion or makeup really, or, like, really cool clothes because I always got my sister's hand me downs. I was obsessed. When I got the video camera, I think I was like, six. I was addicted to, like, what was the next little short film or commercial that I was gonna force my sister to be my husband. My mom, the murderer, the villain, the director.
Shane
I just wanna do karate.
Amanda
She literally was like, what do I have to do? And I'm like, okay, you are in the pyramids and we are finding hieroglyphics. Go. Once I made her a mummy for, like, hours. I was like, stay in this room when the camera hits you. When I do this, the camera's on. You react.
Shane
You know what I. You know what I'm gonna say here is that I think it's kind of messed up that you had your sister participate so much in your hobbies, but it doesn't sound like you ever really paid attention to her video games.
Amanda
It's so true.
Shane
Okay, I didn't mean for that to actually.
Amanda
No, but it is true.
Spencer
Like, I, as the older sibling.
Amanda
You as an older sibling.
Shane
How do you think it would make your sister feel if you showed up and you're just like, hey, I know everything about Pokemon now. Do you think she'd be like, what the.
Amanda
I think it was more Sims.
Shane
Like, if I was like, sims.
Spencer
Hey, if you went to a restaurant with her and ordered imperfect Simlish. How do you think she'd react?
Shane
I don't know.
Amanda
Fuck that is, you know, It's Simlish.
Shane
Is how the sims talk.
Spencer
Yeah. Garble do.
Amanda
My sim sister would lose it as well as my husband. Like, I feel like he wasn't into sims, but, like, if I sat down and been like, hey, do you want to play Dota? Do you want to play Diablo?
Shane
He'd be like, wait, you told me months ago that for your husband's birthday, you promised that you'd play Diablo with him. Have you?
Amanda
I did.
Shane
You did?
Amanda
Yeah, it was.
Shane
How was it?
Amanda
It was fun. I had a good time.
Shane
What'd you play as?
Amanda
I don't know. Some. Would your guy would I like a big dude.
Shane
Oh, like a big barbarian dude.
Amanda
Go and search in this cave and pick up all the gem things. I was more into age event. Like, when he told me to play Age of Empires, I was like, I'm down.
Spencer
Cool versus great, because you can build up. Like, that was my favorite. Like, I'd always want to make my little town, like, against, like, a cliff or something like that. Like, find the right place. Like, oh, there's berries here, there's trees.
Shane
But you played it too peacefully. You need to have a more messed up mindset.
Amanda
Should I show up to my sister's birthday in a full karate outfit and. And know Sims, like, she would be so, well, Sims.
Shane
This is the thing. Knowing Sims is just knowing how to take a shower. And she would be, take a dump and feed yourself. That's all you do.
Amanda
Hey, I had a Tamagotchi. I played with that.
Shane
Okay, so, you know, okay, But I'm too involved.
Amanda
I didn't never wanted them to die. Yeah, that's the thing. I invested too hard. I think I would invest too hard. I can't shut down. Like, when I'm watching a movie I am in, I'm like, I don't know how people can just be like, oh, yeah, he's gonna die. Like, I'm just so invested. So I think maybe naturally I'm protecting myself, because I think I would just get, like, addicted and obsessed.
Spencer
I don't know if I think insanely addicting.
Shane
It is addictive. Look, if you went to Courtney and you said, hey, could we play Sims sometime here? Maybe on a. Maybe on a live stream? Maybe just.
Amanda
I think I just.
Shane
Or just for fun. And if you just said, hey, could I. Could we. Could you teach me how to play Sims? Courtney would lose her mind. I think I would know that Steam would come out. Like, she'd. She'd be like, what? And then she. She.
Amanda
There's a lot of people I'm going to make happy.
Shane
Yeah. I'm trying to think if we did, like, a livestream or a video where we were introducing you to a game, I'm trying to think what would be some good ones.
Spencer
One of my favorite ideas, and it's. It would be like, try not to rage. Like, that's. That's what it was like, internally for me.
Amanda
Ooh.
Spencer
And it would be either you or Courtney playing, like, probably Dark Souls, which are like, these. Really?
Shane
Yeah. We already brought this up because Damien and I said we were going to have you play this, so maybe, look, maybe we do it.
Spencer
But it would be try not to rage, and it would be basically be like, you. So you would play, and then Damian and maybe Shane, like, would have to watch you play and, like, try not to get frustrated.
Shane
Yeah. We'd have to try to keep it.
Amanda
So you guys would watch me play Dark Souls and you guys would try not to rage at me. Playing Dark Souls.
Shane
That'd be very fun. While we were trying to help you, we should be trying. We should be actively trying to help you get through it, and we have to stay very positive, and we cannot get upset at all. That would be very. And it would be. It would be challenging because those games are. Are tough, and they are so hard to tell someone how to play them if you don't play those games.
Amanda
Wait, I would absolutely fucking love that. Because you guys would want to murder me.
Spencer
Yeah.
Amanda
You guys would despise me.
Shane
I. And I feel like I can keep calm if I want to, but I think I would have a hard time. And I can only imagine how Damien would be like. No, because Damien's so good at those games that he.
Amanda
Would you imagine if I played Baldur's Gate and he was just sitting and watching?
Spencer
That'd be so fun.
Shane
Oh, that would actually be. That might even be funnier.
Spencer
No, but that, like. Because I also think I'm, like, really calm, but I think watching anyone play Dark Souls for the first time just because you have, like, you know, we've been playing those kinds of games for, what, like, 10, 15?
Shane
It should be Elden Ring. We should just put her into Elden Ring.
Spencer
Yeah.
Amanda
Elden Ring sounds fun.
Shane
Elden Ring. It's the same type of game. No.
Amanda
Cool.
Shane
I don't think there's elves in Elden Ring. Elden Ring is. It's like Dark Souls, but you're just. You're just a hero in a messed up world.
Amanda
What's the log?
Shane
Okay, that's. That's pretty much you're a hero in a messed up world. You're not even a hero in those games. You kind of play as, like, a messed up thing.
Spencer
You're so.
Shane
Dude, it's just.
Amanda
I don't know.
Spencer
I, I. Oh, I think you're into them for sure.
Amanda
I surprise. I surprise myself.
Shane
You think they're gorgeous?
Amanda
I think. I think what holds me back is trying to do it perfectly right rather than exploring and discovering. So I think that that would be good for me.
Shane
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, Amanda plays Elden Ring, and we try not to lose our minds. Watching is a very good premise of a thing. Look, let's do it. We've pitched other things on this show that have. Have become a reality. Sniper Chess again.
Amanda
Yeah.
Spencer
You're gonna love it. I really hope we get to do it again.
Amanda
I would love to do it.
Spencer
Yeah.
Shane
Yeah. It was a lot of fun.
Amanda
I. I love what we've been doing lately. Like, things on pit, things on games. Like, it's been so fun. That game wavelength. You didn't, you didn't play it, but we played it on pit and it was so fucking great. And I brought it to a party, and people were obsessed with it. It's really fun. It's like, I think of. I think of a subject, and you or you guys think of a number, and then I have to ask from 1 to 10, and then I have to ask a question, and you have to give me an answer based on what you think the rating is. So say it's like, oh, right, like a nine. And I'm like, soup. And you're like, broccoli cheddar. But it has to be for you. And I'm like, does Spencer like broccoli cheddar?
Shane
Does he fucks with Interesting.
Amanda
It's pretty fucking rad. Although when I just explained it, it sounded pretty lame, but no, I mean, very cool.
Shane
Fun. Or we bring moose masks all over the place.
Spencer
Dude.
Shane
Lord Gentleman's Moosemaster.
Amanda
Or different themes.
Spencer
We're trying to think.
Shane
Yep. Spencer's actively training Bro Bro Moose. Bro Moose Master. You know, I would love Rowy Moosemaster. I would love to do that.
Amanda
Or like, tea time Moosemaster.
Shane
Like, well, that's general.
Spencer
That was kind of. Yeah, nice try.
Shane
No, we already did that. No, no, that's already been done. Like, like, ladies, Chosen Moosemaster.
Spencer
Chosen Moosemaster.
Shane
Chosen Moosemaster could be very, like, say.
Spencer
Say, like Akira Kurosawa film.
Shane
Yeah, that's pretty good. Pretty good now.
Spencer
And here's. Here's.
Shane
Oh, Amanda would be screwed.
Amanda
I'd be fucked.
Shane
Okay. Actually, give me one.
Amanda
Give me one.
Shane
What Seven Samurai you'd like.
Amanda
Oh, I've. I think I've seen Seven Samurai.
Shane
Speaking of going back to anime, have you seen any Hayao Miyazaki movies?
Amanda
Is that Spirited Away?
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
You know what? I. My two friends are obsessed with it and their favorite movie was Spirited Away. I struggled. It made me feel ill. It made me feel like I didn't like the pig troughs. Oh, yeah, I struggled.
Shane
Pig trough is rough.
Spencer
I like, I saw it in fifth grade and it really scared me.
Shane
It's scary.
Amanda
I don't like, kind of also like.
Spencer
No, there's a lot of gross.
Amanda
Gross animation.
Shane
It is gross.
Amanda
Ren and Stimpy.
Shane
Yeah, that's fair. Okay, that's fair.
Spencer
And there's a lot of.
Amanda
But I'd like to watch more a.
Spencer
Lot of the music, Mizaki stuff like, like Princess Mononoke or like Nausicaa. Like, they have got a lot of the. And that's kind of what I was talking about with like the anime. There's kind of a certain allowance you give or there's a certain expectation of like, you know, this definitely isn't every anime, but a lot of the popular ones, like Akira has like a lot of the gross, like body horror where it's like the like veins will be like contorting or like kind of expanding.
Amanda
I think I'm getting more. Yeah.
Spencer
Like when no face, like kind of like expands and is like swallowing up everything. Like there's a lot of the really visceral gross, like kind of undulating or like throbbing like mass of things. It's like really, really gross.
Shane
No, Spirited Away, I think it's pg. It's one of those PG movies where you're like, hard.
Amanda
I think it mentally made me feel like the people, like the parents turning into pigs. I. Oh, that's.
Spencer
That scared me.
Amanda
I think mentally feel like. Like it made me feel low. But I know people love spirit. You know, they're doing a live action spirit way.
Shane
Oh, I don't know.
Spencer
They're doing the play people love.
Amanda
And so I want to give his movies more of a try because even if something grosses me out, I still want to see more.
Shane
Sure.
Spencer
That's like. That's why I'm always like, kind of not confused. But people are like, Spirited Away is such a vibe. Like blah, blah, blah. Like, did we watch the same Movie. It's kind of a. It's an intense one.
Shane
Horrific. It's horrific. But the ending. The ending is beautiful. Oh, that's weird.
Amanda
What?
Shane
But the ending of Spirited Away is beautiful. It ends in a very beautiful way, but it's very horrifying at the beginning and it's very symbolic. I think what's also is that that movie is very symbolic for a lot of feelings you have as a kid. And that. That pig trough scene is absolutely there.
Amanda
I think what's. Yeah, I think for me, anime. Like, we watched a lot of, you know, remember the Hans Christian Andersen, Right. Original Disney movies or whatever. So back in the day, they would make anime but put, like, English voices on them. Do you guys remember that original Little Mermaid? It's a Little Mermaid. It's like anime with English voices on it. It's really, really dark.
Shane
Huh?
Amanda
I grew up watching that. So in a way, I was introduced to anime in that sense. But it was really, really dark. But it wasn't gory. It was more fantastical. You haven't seen that one? No, I remember, like, Little Mermaid Dies in the End.
Shane
Well, yeah, I know. I know.
Spencer
Original.
Amanda
It's the Hans Christian Andersen ones.
Spencer
It is. It is funny. Like, seeing what, like. I know, like Courtney Loves, like, Speed Racer and.
Shane
Yeah, like that.
Spencer
Like the old. Old anime. Like, so it always has been, like, prevalent, but it's never quite. I don't know.
Amanda
Yeah. So basically, we need to mix worlds. You guys, I gotta get into. You got. We gotta do a live stream.
Shane
Okay.
Amanda
Of Dark Souls or Elden's Ring.
Shane
Elden Ring.
Amanda
Elden Ring.
Shane
Elden Ring is a good one. I think we could do Sims is another option. And. And I feel we cannot end this stream without being honest with you. I think. Another one. There's another game called Five Nights at Freddy's.
Spencer
Jesus.
Shane
Where you're a security guard at a pizzeria in Utah and there are animatronics that are alive with ghosts.
Amanda
That should be a game.
Spencer
It is a game.
Shane
That is. It is a game. So we should play it the entire. We were unfortunately lying.
Spencer
No, there was no bite of 80.
Shane
There's no bite of 83. I can't. I can't end this podcast just leaving that.
Spencer
Matpat has the show called Game Theory where he, like, kind of like. He, like, kind of like. Because Five Nights at Freddy's is, like, a very simple game where you're, like, kind of looking at security things and the animatronics coming, like. But, like, he's, like, kind of he's pieced together the story from all these.
Shane
Different Five Nights at Freddy's is a video game series. So the All. Everything we told you is.
Amanda
You guys made me feel so bad. You guys made me feel so bad about murder.
Spencer
Okay?
Amanda
To be fair, that is my thing.
Spencer
Do you know how hard it was to say all that with a straight face?
Shane
I almost lost it.
Amanda
Did you guys plan this ahead?
Spencer
Yeah.
Shane
Yeah, we did. We talked about this. We were going to convince you because we knew that we could convince you.
Spencer
That we knew that you were probably, like, the one. I mean, a lot of, like, the bite of 83 is such, like, a.
Amanda
Meme, because wasn't it bite of 82? No. 83.
Spencer
Yeah. There's also bite of 87.
Amanda
You guys, I fully believed it. I was like, wow, that's the.
Shane
That's how intense the lore of this video game.
Spencer
And it gets so fucking stupid. We could literally do an entire podcast of just explaining the rest of the lore to you, because it gets so. It's like, oh, he killed them. Then, like, they possessed, and they, like, brought him back. And then he got in this other suit, and that suit, like, collapsed on him. And then, like, through sheer will, like, he stayed alive in that suit for, like, 20 years, like, sustained by hatred. And then he was, like, harvesting the. Like, I was like, yeah, how did.
Amanda
I not know about this man who kills children and puts them in the setup.
Shane
The setup of it, I think, is really cool. Yeah, the setup of this guy and how he loses his mind and kills children, I think is. Is well done. Five Nights at Freddy does have a lot of cool lore. It does get said.
Spencer
The other cool part is at one point, like, so the main, like, the guy who killed those kid, his son, like, kind of, like, wants to, like, figure out what his dad was doing. So at one point, he, like, you know, he finds his, like, underground lair and stuff. And then he winds up getting scooped, which is like this, like, machine that basically scoops out his organs and his bones, and then it puts one of the machines, like, inside of his body. So, like, instead of, like, the person being inside of the animatronic, it's the animatronics inside of him.
Shane
Him.
Spencer
But then, like, his. All of his, like, flesh and stuff starts rotting. So he smells really bad. That's why he becomes, like, the purple man, because he's like this, like, ew.
Shane
It's a crazy. So it's a horror video game series scoop. And the way that you play the first video game and it. I'm wondering if it's a good one for us to play sometime.
Spencer
It's fucking. How do you do with jump scares?
Shane
Yeah. So you're a security guard.
Amanda
I get really scared, but I love it.
Shane
You're a security guard and the game is you looking at all the security footage of this. You're staying the night at this pizzeria, but the animatronics are alive and stuff, so you have to try to, like, not let them get past you and sneak up on you and you're trying.
Amanda
To like, wait, I want to play. I love that shit.
Shane
All right, maybe. Maybe. Let's. Let's. We're gonna figure out what game we're gonna introduce you to, but it's. We lied and I'm sorry.
Amanda
You fuckers. I was like.
Shane
Wasn't sure we were gonna get away with it.
Amanda
Fight of 83. I was like.
Shane
But for a moment. For a moment there.
Amanda
Matpat's real.
Shane
Matpat's a real YouTuber, but he does video games.
Amanda
I hate you guys so much. I believed it so hard.
Shane
So anyways, for a moment there, Amanda, you believed the plot of Five Nights at Freddy's was a real story, and that's a cool experience.
Amanda
Yeah. You guys, I feel betrayed. I also feel like I wasn't a good murderer person.
Shane
No, I did not know true crime. You know that if you don't know it, that it doesn't exist. That's the thing.
Amanda
I. I was like, Shane knows nothing really about true crime. Every time I bring up true crime, he's like, huh? And I'm like, dude, where are you?
Spencer
Charles Manson?
Shane
The Manson girls. I feel bad. It was very funny. If you are allowed to get back at me in any way with some sort of prank. Okay, I deserve it.
Amanda
Now Tommy Lee Jones is gonna come at your desk.
Shane
What? Tommy Lee Jones is gonna come on my desk?
Amanda
I said no.
Spencer
I was gonna to say that, but I was like, I can't.
Shane
Where did that come from? All right.
Amanda
I said come at your desk. You. That way.
Shane
What's that mean?
Amanda
Either.
Spencer
You know what?
Amanda
Nothing.
Shane
Okay. Spencer, thank you for being here.
Amanda
Thanks, Spencer.
Spencer
Awesome.
Amanda
Did you have fun?
Spencer
I had a blast. Yeah.
Shane
Yeah. This is really cool. Amanda, we're going to start. We're going to start introducing you to some games. So pay attention to that on Smosh games. We'll probably. We'll probably do it at some point.
Spencer
Yeah, I would love to.
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
Okay, let's go. I'm about to nerd out, bitch.
Shane
Thank you for watching. Let us know what games you wanted to play? Yeah, let. What game should Amanda play? Let us know in the comments down below. All right.
Amanda
All right.
Shane
See you later.
Amanda
Bye.
Shane
Bye. Oh, man, I'm so sorry.
Amanda
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Smosh Mouth - Episode #20: We Convinced Her Five Nights At Freddy's Was Real w/ Spencer Agnew
Release Date: November 6, 2023
Host: Smosh (Shayne Topp and Amanda Lehan-Canto)
Guest: Spencer Agnew
In Episode #20 of Smosh Mouth, hosts Shayne Topp (Shane) and Amanda Lehan-Canto (Amanda) welcome their special guest, Spencer Agnew. The episode centers around gaming, delving into personal gaming histories, the psychology of game design, and even a playful prank involving the popular game Five Nights at Freddy's (FNAF).
The conversation kicks off with the trio sharing their favorite childhood games. Amanda reminisces about titles like Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, GoldenEye for N64, and Tony Hawk Pro Skater. Spencer, recognized as the true gamer among them, lists Asian Fire, among others, highlighting his extensive gaming knowledge.
Notable Quote:
Shane [01:03]: “It's Vice City.”
Spencer details his ability to recall games with remarkable precision, attributing it to what he describes as a "photographic memory."
Notable Quote:
Spencer [03:05]: “I kind of absorb that kind of knowledge like a sponge.”
Amanda contrasts her gaming experience, mentioning games like Carmen Sandiego and Gateway 2000, positioning herself as less of a gamer compared to Spencer.
The hosts delve into the addictive nature of modern games. Spencer discusses how game design often targets the brain's reward system, making games like World of Warcraft (WoW) and Call of Duty highly engaging and sometimes detrimental.
Notable Quote:
Shane [18:38]: “I got super addicted to World of Warcraft.”
Shane critiques the shift in game design from purely entertaining experiences to systems that encourage continuous spending through season passes and in-game purchases. Spencer echoes this sentiment, emphasizing the cyclical spending habits these models foster.
Notable Quote:
Spencer [25:37]: “It's a vicious cycle.”
Amanda and Shane discuss personal strategies to moderate gaming, highlighting the importance of setting boundaries to prevent games from overtaking one's life.
Notable Quote:
Shane [28:01]: “I need to set aside the time that I'm playing it, and when I walk away, I'm not.”
Shane and Spencer reveal their plan to convince Amanda that the plot of Five Nights at Freddy's is a true story, leveraging her non-gamer status for comedic effect.
Notable Quote:
Shane [32:18]: “Because of that, we decided to prank her and convince her that the plot of Five Nights at Freddy's is a true story.”
Throughout the episode, Spencer and Shane fabricate a dark narrative around FNAF, discussing fictional murders and haunted animatronics to lull Amanda into believing the game's lore is based on reality.
Notable Quote:
Spencer [34:26]: “He ended up killing like more kids.”
Amanda gradually becomes convinced, expressing genuine shock and disbelief upon learning the "truth."
Notable Quote:
Amanda [37:05]: “Whoa, how did I miss out on this true crime story?”
The discussion naturally transitions into conversations about true crime, with references to YouTubers like MatPat from Game Theory, who delve into the intricate lore of games like FNAF.
Notable Quote:
Spencer [65:08]: “Matpat has the show called Game Theory where he kind of pieces together the story.”
Amanda shares her passion for true crime, highlighting her fascination with intricate murder stories and their impact on popular culture.
Notable Quote:
Amanda [38:08]: “We always trade stories. I go rabbit hole so deep.”
As the episode approaches its conclusion, Shane and Spencer confess their deceit, revealing that FNAF's storyline is entirely fictional and the intricate lore was a playful fabrication.
Notable Quote:
Shane [65:26]: “We lied and I'm sorry.”
Amanda reacts with a mix of betrayal and amusement, acknowledging the effectiveness of the prank.
Notable Quote:
Amanda [67:58]: “I hate you guys so much. I believed it so hard.”
The hosts express enthusiasm about future collaborations, including potentially introducing Amanda to games like Dark Souls or Elden Ring. They invite listeners to suggest games for Amanda to explore, blending humor with genuine interest in cross-generational gaming experiences.
Notable Quote:
Amanda [69:17]: “I love that shit.”
Gaming's Influence: The episode underscores the profound impact gaming can have on individuals, from fostering deep memories to the potential for addiction.
Evolving Game Design: There's a clear critique of modern monetization strategies in gaming, emphasizing the need for balance between engaging content and ethical design.
Cross-Generational Understanding: The playful interaction between the hosts highlights the generational gaps in gaming knowledge and preferences, promoting a dialogue for greater understanding.
The Power of Pranks: The successful prank serves as a testament to the camaraderie among the hosts and their ability to entertain through creative storytelling.
Note: This summary omits advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content segments as per the request, focusing solely on the substantive discussions and interactions within the episode.