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Ian Hecox
Ramble. I had a little bit of a crisis. If you take spicy or acidic foods out of my life. Do I even have a life? Lately on Twitter, I've been a part of like, several, like, nostalgia memes. A hundred thousand likes and people be like, oh my God, I remember that. I'm literally nostalgia. I know Charlie Puth was a fan back in the day. That name is very unique and I think we might have like, sort of made fun of it. Like, Charlie Puth, Nashville style. Hot chicken is the best. It's so good, guys. And they put it on these, like, sweet rolls.
Courtney Miller
Hey, Ian, I'm not seeing this on the topic list at all. What? What's happening?
Ian Hecox
Oh, it's so funny. I was thinking about that movie Contagion.
Courtney Miller
Shut up.
Ian Hecox
Hello, everyone, and welcome to smoshcast. Today I'm joined by nobody. It's just me, baby. So actually this is. This is the first time that I've been back, that I'm back in the podcast studio. So this is kind of weird. And I'm joined by nobody else because we had a heck of a week, man. So today we're recording this on Friday on the Wednesday, we did our first ever Twitch livestream for our new Smosh games Twitch channel. It all went very well. Everything went off without a hitch, except for this part when we thought it would be really funny if everyone drank some apple cider vinegar and pretended like they were drinking water. Like it was no big D. Everyone was going around taking turns. You know, we all got a giant cup of it. Maybe about, I would say, 4 to 6 ounces. Is that you'd say it's about that amount, Kevin.
Courtney Miller
Yeah.
Ian Hecox
And each one was poured and we went around the table, each having. Each taking our turns taking a little sip, just a little sip. Everyone was taking just a little sip. Damian sipped and then he sipped. And then he sipped. And then he sipped and he sipped. And he sipped most of it down, just like Little by little. And I was like, well, if he's going to sip it, then I'm just going to chug the whole dang thing. Disclaimer. What I found out later is that Damien, for some reason was given water, so that didn't affect him at all. And which gave me kind of a false sense of security. So I chug the whole dang cup of apple cider vinegar, which turned out to not actually be apple cider vinegar. I guess there was some kind of. There's something that was lost in translation. And we just drank straight up white vinegar. Yeah, it turns out that you're not supposed to do that. I didn't. How was I supposed to know that? So I chugged it and experienced a pretty terrible time. But I. But I trucked through it. I was okay by the end, sort of. And then I had burns in my throat for about a day. So I took a breather yesterday, tried to recover in time for this podcast. I was supposed to do a podcast with Courtney and Noah, but Courtney was so tired from all the streaming and we've been on two weeks straight of filming, so everyone's pretty worn out. And I was just like, you know what, frick it. I'll just do a single single person pod. I'll just do. We'll call it Ian Rambles. I actually didn't say let's call Ian Rambles. I think I just. I made that up. So, yeah, my. I'm okay now. Stomach not so bad. Everyone was very supportive. Got some yogis yogurt. Sorry I'm using my baby talk right now. I guess that's just what I do when I'm uncomfortable. Got some yogurt, got some bread. Olivia fricking ordered me porridge. She had porridge delivered to my house, like from this Korean place. It was like this chicken porridge and it was so frickin good. So I ate that for dinner and then I ate the rest for brekkie. I gotta just stop shortening every word. This is dumb.
Courtney Miller
No, no, keep doing it. It's great.
Ian Hecox
All right, so I ate some pori for brekkie. No, I won't. I won't shorten porridge to pori. That's stupid. Yeah, so then I woke up, you know, the next day after burning the crap out of my throat and esophagus. And I was like, okay, I need to avoid spicy foods. Anything acidic, you know, spicy food. Coffee, sort of. Maybe.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, that's got acid in it.
Ian Hecox
But I still drank some. But I drank it with like Stuff like, I drank it with, like, oat milk and stuff. That wasn't. I was like, that won't be. That'll. That'll cut down on the acidity of it. Yeah. Literally, I went. I went one day having to avoid acidic food, and I was like, I was having a crisis. I feel like a part of my personality was stripped away because I'm. I'm a spicy boy. I like spicy foods, and without spicy foods, what am I? I had a little bit of a crisis there where I'm like, if you take spicy or acidic foods out of my life, do I even have a life? How much value have I put into myself as a spicy boy? Too much, I guess. So I'm better now, though. I'm better now. I'm drinking this coffee. It's got oat milk in it, so I feel like that cuts it down. Yeah, it's been. It's been an interesting. It's been an interesting time. It's been an interesting time for everybody, I guess. I hear a couple things have happened in 2020. I hear a few things have happened. I feel like on the podcast, we generally. We generally try to avoid just talking about 2020 things because we all heard it enough. I'll just. I'll just talk about things that are personal to me in 2020. I don't want to talk about the events because go on Twitter if you want to know that. You know, everybody's. Everybody's handling it in a different way. The big thing, obviously, is, like, we're all. We're all shut inside, or you should be, or at least, you know, being outdoors away from people is fine, but for the most part, we're all getting shut inside. You know, a lot of people have roommates that are probably driving them crazy. A lot of you guys are probably married or you have a boyfriend or a girlfriend or, you know, something. Someone that you're intimate with that you're just shut in with for hours on end. For myself, I'm. I'm completely. I live alone. It's just me and the dog, and the dog doesn't make for great conversation. She's actually pretty annoying. It's funny because I talk to a lot of. I talk to a lot of friends that are. That are with significant others, and some people are just, like, done. They're just so done. Then there's other people that are like, oh, this is actually like, forced us to have, like, very, like, important conversations about our relationship, and it's actually brought us closer together. And then there's Some people with roommates that are like, oh, I. I don't want to do this anymore. And then I was actually talking with our content manager, Kiana, and she was like, there's actually. I actually know a lot of people that are living alone, that are trying to. That have either like, moved in with other people or they're trying to move in with other people. Cause they just can't stand being alone. And I'm like, oh, is there something wrong with me? Cause I haven't for once thought about that. I mean, like, if I don't need another human being, I don't need another human being walking around all up in my stuff. I mean, if it's a significant other, then, yeah, that's fine. I'd like that. But I'm not starved for, you know, another human body walking around. Does that mean that I don't get lonely sometimes? No, of course. We all lonely up in here from time to time. Living alone in Covid has been interesting. I've just. It's just kind of like, it's changed a lot of my, you know, daily sort of behaviors as far as, like, what do I do with all this time? Because I'm not going out as much. I'm just kind of like, shut inside. I thought I would be reading more. I was like, I bought a bunch of books when I was up in Portland and Powell's book, Shout Out. I bought a bunch of books and I was like, I'm gonna read these. And then, you know, then Covid gets bad, and then I'm getting. And I'm shut inside. And I thought, this is gonna be the time when I finally sit down and read a book. I've made it through like a half a book. So not bad. Not bad. Actually, it's pretty bad. Reading is important, kids.
Courtney Miller
So.
Ian Hecox
Yeah. Will I get better at reading? I hope so. I think I just haven't found. I haven't found like, the right thing. Like I have these books that I'm like, no, I need to read this. But it's like, I don't want to though. Like, eh. I also think I just have some attention problems. Of course it's undiagnosed, so I shouldn't say that. But I for sure have attention problems. Whether I should be medicated for that. I mean, I'm sure it would help. I'm sure it would. Yeah. I got these books that I know I would probably be a better human if I actually finished reading them, but I haven't. Instead, I've fallen into the habit and it's something that I enjoy doing, which is watching movies, watching shows. I enjoy watching movies more because you can just get through it and then be done with it. Like, I'm not gonna pick up frickin bleach and watch 1500 episodes. Nah, brah, nah. However, I have stumbled across something that I thought I would never get into. And I've discovered a little something about myself during this lockdown. I have started watching trashy reality tv. This is my confession. It started as a joke. Okay? You know, it started as just a. Ha, ha ha, I'll watch this. This is silly. This is stupid. At the very beginning of lockdown, or roughly the beginning, you know, when it was like two weeks into lockdown and we're all like, oh, this is so crazy. Like we're doing all this stuff and it's like so weird that we're in lockdown and we all thought it was gonna go for like two months. Well, I mean, I didn't. I knew it was going to go on forever. I mean, we're, we're stuck, we're stuck in this forever. I was like, oh, ha ha. I'm going to watch Love is Blind because this is stupid. And I, I, I got hooked, man. I mean, the, the show is bad. No doubt. Like Jessica. Oh, man. So for those of you that haven't seen Love is Blind, it's. The whole premise of the show is that people are locked in these pods. Well, not locked in the pod. That sounds like they're prisoners. They go into these pods and they talk to somebody that's on the other side of this wall. And they have what I assume is like hours, long conversations for multiple sessions. And then they have to decide at some point if they're going to propose to the person without seeing them to prove if, you know, to see if love truly is blind. Come on. So then they propose with the absolute cheesiest, shittiest romantic lines where it just, it made me want to barf. Like, I hope those lines are written because I don't want to believe that people are that fricking cheesy. Or maybe I just have a cold, cold heart. But it's like, bro, come on, what was the worst one? Cameron's was pretty bad from what I remember. Gosh, they were all bad. There was this one girl, Gigi. Ugh. Like, so this guy proposes to her and she's like, no, no, I will not accept because I'm proposing to you and you are my love of my life forever and ever. And I cannot Wait to spend eternity with you. Flash forward like 30 days later and it's an absolute nightmare because of course you're not going to actually know if you love the person from talking them through a wall aided by lots and lots of alcohol. That's like the thing about this show. And actually with most reality TV shows, now that I'm deep into them, there is so much alcohol involved in these shows. It's like to a dangerous amount. There's not really any part aside from the driving scenes where these people aren't fueled by alcohol. Which makes sense because I mean it pulls the crazy out of people. Not crazy. That's not okay to say. It makes people say some stupid shit. Yeah, just absolute, just vomit inducing romantic line proposals and then they see each other and oh my gosh, you're attractive because of course you were selected for a show. And we can't have people that aren't conventionally attractive on a show. So that. Lucky me, like I want, I want Love is Blind to come in next season with some, with some like real curve balls. Like, like some people that aren't considered conventionally attractive to like really see if love is blind. Come on guys. All those people look like rejected soap opera stars. That's not really, that's not really putting it to the test.
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Ian Hecox
So I don't want to spoil too much about the show, but I'm sure anyone that had cared to watch it has probably already seen it. But Jessica and Mark. Jessica's 35 and Mark is 24. Guys. And in case you forgot that Jessica will remind you every five minutes in the show that she doesn't know if it'll work because she's 35 and he's 24. That's the funny thing about these reality shows is like you can see like that they, that they really try to pound like narratives into your fricking face when they're like, just so you know, she's 35 and he's 24. So it's probably not Gonna work. She's hella old and he's hella young. It's probably not gonna work. Surprise. It doesn't. Oh, wait, that's a spoiler. But it's pretty clear. It's pretty freaking clear from the get go because she was in love with another guy on the show. Oh.
Courtney Miller
So I've. I've got a question for you, Ian.
Ian Hecox
What's that?
Courtney Miller
What got you into watching reality shows? Like, nobody just starts watching them. Like, what. What was the catalyst?
Ian Hecox
I mean, I heard some people talking about Love is Blind and I needed a break from all the very, like, dark. You know? See, I feel like there's so many shows out right now, like really good written shows, movies, but they're all dark and dramatic. And I needed something that was just a little bit light because we're obviously going through something that nobody has ever gone through before, except for some really, really, really old people that went through the 1918 pandemic. You know what? I was. I. I'm not gonna say like I told y'all so, but I've been preaching about the 1918 pandemic for years, bro. I was ready for this. It's so funny. I was thinking about that movie Contagion. Shut up.
Courtney Miller
They're in the game studio there. I think they're just being loud in.
Ian Hecox
That I shouldn't scream like that.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. Be careful on your voice, Ian. Sounds like it comes so naturally to you, though.
Ian Hecox
It does. It's nice to scream at people. It's good to scream every once in a while. I don't get to scream that much. I'm a pretty mellow, chill dude. But yeah, I kept thinking about that movie continuously, like towards the end, when there's people that are free and clear of the virus or whatever, and they're going to the mall or something, then they get their thing checked. And I was saying at the beginning, when this virus was just kicking up, I was like, I think that could possibly happen. And now that seems totally reasonable. That seems like a totally possible thing. People getting checked to be normal people of society.
Courtney Miller
I guess I want to go deeper into this because you had strong opinions, it sounded like, about trash TV prior to watching trash tv. What was your opinions of people who watched trash TV before this? Like Jersey Shore or the Circle or going into stuff like that.
Ian Hecox
I will say I did watch the first season of Jersey. Okay. I hadn't never watched trash TV before. Okay. I knew I had a. I knew I sort of liked it to a degree, but I felt bad about watching it like I watched the first season of Jersey Shore, had some great moments. I watched, I think it was called the Shahs of Sunset, which followed a group of Persians living in, in Beverly Hills. And that was, that was interesting. That had some, some just properly bad people in it. And that's the funny thing that you find out about a lot of these shows is like the worst behavior is rewarded. If you think you're gonna get on a reality show and get airtime being the good guy. Nah. Nuh. Maybe. Maybe one person is the good guy. The sort of protagonist of the group. The person that keeps everyone together because they're the diplomat. Right. If you want airtime on a reality show, you have to be dramatic and you like, you have to be, you know, which usually means that you just have to just be an ass to everyone. One trash show that I just finished recently selling Sunset. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. I watched all three seasons. Woo, baby. That's about a group of, a group of people that work at a high end real estate company in West Hollywood and they only, well, they typically only sell houses in the Hollywood Hills. It's basically all women except for like the two twins that run the brokerage. I have to say my favorite thing about the show is the fashion. I like fashion. I like when somebody throws together a nice outfit. Not just saying like, not saying like men's fashion, like any kind of fashion. So there's, there's like ladies come through with some really, really nice outfits and I appreciate that. I'm like, wow, that's very nice. You color coordinated. I see that. I respect that. Good job. But this one person on the show, Christine, oh man, if she didn't, if she wasn't on the show, this show wouldn't exist. She's the worst and she knows it and she takes, she, she fully capitalizes on it. She was pretty bad in first season and I think second season she engages this guy who is just like, just stupid wealthy. He's like, I think he was like a software developer, whatever. He made a ton of money. So when she comes back to the show in season two, she like lands in a private jet, gets in her Bentley, like shows up to the thing and like some, you know, $30,000 like wardrobe and she's like, yes, I am that bitch. I dig it. She's, she's so bad. Like there's a lot of people that aspire to be reality stars. Like I know somebody that know of somebody, I'm not friends with them, but that they said they want to be a reality star.
Courtney Miller
That's actually a really good question though, is like, what's, what's the separation, would you say, between YouTubers and reality stars? Obviously, there's many degrees of YouTubers, but have you met YouTubers who have. Who could easily slot within that concept of being a reality star?
Ian Hecox
Oh, Tana Mongeau would be. Would be a great reality star because you have to kind of like, embrace a character. Like, nobody in, like, reality TV shows, I hope, is really playing themselves. Like, I hope they're playing a heightened version of themselves. And I think that's in a large way that a lot of YouTubers do that as well. Obviously, like five or more years ago, I was playing an extremely heightened version of myself. And then when people would meet me in person, they'd be like, you're like, different. You're like, normal. Like, yeah, yeah. I'm not always screaming and running around and calling people dick biscuit, I think. Yeah. I mean, in a way, in a way, a lot of, like, vloggers are reality stars. Like, people like David Dobrik, like, it's. It's not like all that stuff would happen to them if a camera wasn't rolling. You know, he wouldn't just be throwing Teslas out left and right on, you know, just as part of his regular daily life if he wasn't doing it all on camera. No, he'd just be like, chilling at home, playing some COD, ordering some Postmates. Yeah. I don't know. Like, yeah, YouTubers are almost like another, like, incarnation or not all YouTubers, but the vloggers are sort of like another incarnation of reality tv, except they control it completely. Like with reality tv, it's. It's controlled by a producer and an editor and, you know, they shoot so much stuff and then they base. A lot of times they just piece together a storyline afterwards. Like, so, you know, you might think that you had this whole thing that was going to end up on the show and they're like, sucks, let's do this thing.
Courtney Miller
Well, so I don't know if you know this, Ian, but my. My wife actually was on a reality TV show. It was a cake competition one, so it wasn't this overly dramatic. But when she was explaining the process, they had her for hours just re. Just saying a bunch of different lines during the interview and they would just create scenarios like, well, what if about this? What about that? Just for the edit.
Ian Hecox
Yeah.
Courtney Miller
So then when the edit came out, she's like, oh, I. They told me they weren't going to use that line. That was a wild line. That was just me saying something, like, randomly. And they used it.
Ian Hecox
Yeah. So.
Courtney Miller
And I told her. I was like, once the camera starts rolling on a reality show, anything you say the editors are going to use.
Ian Hecox
So, yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. Like, I always get so lost when I'm. When I'm watching a reality show because I'm thinking half my time is, like, spent watching what's going on, and then the other half is me wondering how they got that sound bite or, like, how, like, were they just sitting there all day and that thing happened? Or did a producer tell that woman to walk over and ask that person that question? Because there's these times, like, in the show when it just looks like they're working and then one of them looks over. The other person said, oh, my God, did you hear what Christine did last night? Did you hear what she said? And then the person goes, you bitch. They never said that. Were they just rolling all day? Or did a producer say, hey, ask. Ask her what? What? She heard what Christine said last night. Okay. Hey, did you hear what Christine said last night? It's hard to know. I don't. I don't really know how much is. I mean, it depends on, like, what reality show it is. Some are very scripted and very orchestrated, and then I'm sure some are just purely orchestrated by alcohol. Love is blind Indian matchmaking. Oh, by the way, fuck, Aparna. Ugh. I was gonna just list the things I've been watching, but I have to stop hard. Stop right here. Aparna, that's not okay. All right? It's not okay. Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm. This is just turning into a full reality tv.
Courtney Miller
It really is.
Ian Hecox
Yeah.
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Aparna in Indian matchmaking is a person. She's looking for love, guys. I don't know what she's looking for because there's not a single person that fits what she wants. She's like, oh, I travel all the time. I love traveling. If I'm not traveling, I hate everything or whatever. But she's like, I hate the outdoors. I hate them. Like, what are you doing? Then you're traveling, but you hate the outdoors. She's like, oh, I love South Africa. I love it. So you, like, go to South Africa and, like, chill in a hotel. I don't get it. And then this guy was like, oh, yeah. Like. Like, oh, I love. I love the beach. And she's like, I hate the beach. I hate it. I hate. I hate the beach. The beach sucks. And he's like, oh, you just don't like the ocean? She's like, no, I love the ocean. I love the ocean. I spent. I spent two weeks out in the ocean. I love the ocean. Hate the beach, though. He's like, oh, like, where would you. Where would you, like, relax for 10 days? She's like, why would you need to relax for 10 days? Anything more than three is ridiculous. What do you need that much time to relax for? Ugh. And he's like, oh, do you like. Do you like your work? She's like, oh, I hate my work. I hate it. Being a lawyer is weird, and it sucks. And he's like, this other guy is a lawyer. And he's like, oh, I love. I love being a lawyer. I love law and helping people. She's like, I hate it. I hate being a lawyer. Oh, unhappy people are so draining, man. They're so draining. If somebody's, like, really draining you and they're just being angry and mean for reasons that don't make any sense, maybe they're just unhappy. You know, maybe you can help them, maybe you can't. But acknowledge that they're probably just unhappy and it's not your fault. Boom. That's one life lesson.
Courtney Miller
Life lesson from reality tv. That's great.
Ian Hecox
Yeah. One reality show that I did very much like and made me all warm and fuzzy was love on the spectrum. Following a group of people with autism. Well, this is the debate, people with autism or autistic people. It's a flip flop. So I'm sorry if I offended you if I said autistic people or people with autism. You know what I mean? Thank you. I'm open to hearing it. I really am, because I need to learn. I don't know everything. So it follows a group of people with autism in Australia, which makes the show instantly better because Australian accents are so adorable. And some people that are looking for love and other people that have found love and they're in a relationship. And I thought it was. I thought it was really nice. It was really nice. There was no bad people. It was just like. People just, like. Honestly, just looking for a connection. Some people had never been on a date before because it's hard. What I like the most about the show is it. And this seems like a crazy thing to say because it's like, well, obviously, obviously, this shouldn't be a stretch, but what I did like about the show is that it humanized people with autism. Like, it. It was like, no, they have the same struggles as. As the rest of us. Some parts were, like, a little infantilizing. Is that the right word?
Courtney Miller
What are you trying to go on about?
Ian Hecox
Like, they, like, they just kind of. They treated some people just like. Yeah, I think infantilizing. I think that's the right word. They treated them like they were children sometimes.
Ryan Seacrest
Yeah.
Ian Hecox
And it's like, no. Yes. They're not neurotypical, but they're not children. But I get it. Certainly I'm not trained in that area. I think some people in the community might not completely enjoy it, but I think it does a really good job of humanizing their experience.
Courtney Miller
So any final thoughts on reality TV for you during the coronavirus period?
Ian Hecox
I'd say give it a shot. I'd say, yeah, if you're looking to watch some trash, you know, watching trash isn't all bad. Every once in a while we gotta unplug. Especially now. I'd much rather talk shit about some, like, random person that's in a reality TV show than a person that's going through a real struggle in real life. Yeah. I think we can't just always be watching just intense, horrible stuff like. Yeah, maybe every once in a while we gotta. We gotta have our comfort food. You know, we can't always be eating salad. We gotta. We gotta be. You know, we gotta have some barbecue sometimes.
Courtney Miller
I like that reality TV show is barbecue. That's great.
Ian Hecox
It is. It's fatty, fatty brisket.
Courtney Miller
There was one in here I really liked. And I don't know if you'd be willing to talk about it. It was the. Keeping your friendships in your 30s.
Ian Hecox
Yeah.
Courtney Miller
I think it's an interesting topic. I'm also in my 30s, so I would like. I don't know if that's something that you'd be willing to discuss.
Ian Hecox
Yeah, we kind of wrote down some topics that I thought I could talk about, and it's something that I've been thinking about lately. Keeping or managing friendships in your 30s? Cause I was just kind of thinking about it the other day. I was like, man, I feel like my friend circle in my 20s was much. Was much more vast, was much more varied. But, like, when you get in your 30s, like. Like a lot of people are. They're getting deep into a relationship or a marriage. They got kids, they have a professional life, so now they're living in some other city. Like, everybody's just kind of just more busy having just a general friendship with somebody does, I think, get harder. It doesn't mean it's impossible, but it takes. It takes a lot more to manage a friendship. That's what I'm finding that I'm bad at. Cause I'm bad at keeping up with people. I am totally chill to just sit on my tv, sit in front of my tv, play video games, and watch movies for days. And I'm just not very good at keeping up with my friends and people that I know and acquaintances and building relationships. Like, a lot of times, I just kind of let that stuff come to me. Everyone at smosh, that is a friendship, but it's also a work relationship. You have to put that in one box. Like, the people that you work with, it's not that you can't be friends with the people that you work with. Having friendships with the people that you work with is great. And it's people that you see every day and that you spend a lot of your time with them. So having a relationship with that person is awesome. But you need friendships outside of that. You need somebody that. That's not already all up in your shit. And that's something that I realized. I was like, whoa. There's not a lot of people that I talk to on a regular basis that aren't involved in what I do. Like, and especially, like in. In Los Angeles, like, where. Where everyone here is. I mean, everyone. Basically everyone that I know is working in YouTube stuff or digital stuff. Streaming. Yeah. Gaming. YouTube. And, man, I want some friends that don't do that. Like, I want, like, people that, you know, I talk to that I'm like, oh, man, you see this YouTube video? And they're like, no. And I'm like, great, we don't need to talk about YouTube. Because talking about YouTube with everybody, it's like, it gets old, man. And I mean, Los Angeles in general, I feel like I came to the perfect city because what I do talk about a lot in general with friends and stuff is like, TV shows, video games, movies, pop culture. And I think that confused a lot of. A lot of my friends from Sacramento because they weren't just like all sucked into that. So I did come to the right city for that. But it's nice to have people that don't have any involvement in your industry. Yeah, I got some work to do, man. I got to make some more friends or. I mean, I have friends, but I just. I need to reconnect. Actually. I had a friend. I had a friend actually reach out yesterday and they were like, hey, sorry I pushed you away when. Cause this person was friends with both me and my ex. And when we split, that person, I guess I didn't. I wasn't even aware because I don't keep up with my friends. I guess he sort of like, sided with her or like, not really sided, but just like decided to like, oh, I'm just going to be friends with that person. That happens so often, like where you're friends with a couple, they break up and you're like, oh, well, I got to choose one. So they actually reached out to me and they're like, yeah, I just realized I did that and I don't know why, because you've always been cool to me. So I just wanted to apologize. I was like, whoa, that's cool. Yeah. No, that also made me think, like, yeah, I do just need to, like, reach out more often and, you know, establish relationships a little bit better. It never hurts to reach out to a friend and say, hey, I'm thinking about you. How are you doing? Do you want to catch up over zoom or in a park?
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Courtney Miller
Do you find that you're. Now that you're a little bit older, like friends that you would make in your 30s versus friends that you made in your 20s. Would you. Do you find, like, there's going to be a different. I guess the question I'm trying to ask is like a different level or caliber. You're looking for now, kind of like one would going into relationships after many years of dating. Because you were saying how you're. You're trying to look for friends outside of work, and that's. That in and of itself is a pretty tough thing to do. I guess my question is around, like, you know, being older, finding people in our age group to relate with. But at the same time, do you find yourself as a choosier individual because of experience?
Ian Hecox
I think also, like, I spent so much time in relationships, like, so many of my friendships were built around, like, oh, this person gets along with the both of us. A lot of friendships were formed where it's like, I'm with somebody, and then we make friends with this couple. It's, you know, it's sometimes harder to, like, make friends when it's just yourself trying to, like, hang out with another couple or something. Not everyone. Not everyone could do that. We can't be, you know, Damien going to Japan with. With you and your wife.
Courtney Miller
The perfect third wheel. Let's be real. I mean, it was Damien and I, and Lacy was the third wheel.
Ian Hecox
And. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. I think. Yeah, it's. It's. It's really funny. Like, I don't. Because when you're. When you're a couple, like, you kind of have, like, this sort of like, in. Where it's like, oh, we'll go on, like, a double date or, like, oh, let's, like, let's get dinner, or, like, let's do this. But when you're, like, a single guy, some of those doors aren't open. It's like. It's like, oh, okay, well, we'll be able to get together in a group setting. Or if, like, your wife or girlfriend or boyfriend is, like, off doing something else, then we hang out. I mean, although in Los Angeles, like, everyone's basically the same. Everyone's pretty politically aligned. But I guess nowadays I would. I would hold my friends a little bit more accountable to, like, certain political things, like certain, like, social issues, for sure. Because, yeah, I mean, like, I got. I got a couple friends up in Sacramento that that are. Are more of the, shall we say, redneck type. I shouldn't say redneck, because that's. That's not fair. That's not fair to the rednecks out there. But they. They have certain. They have certain, like, thing. They have certain, you know, viewpoints that I believe are a little bit ignorant that I think I would hold them to now. And when I go back for Christmas, well, no, because I probably can't see them even for Christmas.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, we're in the. Rona.
Ian Hecox
Damn you, Rona. I'm comfortable to speak my mind to my friend and have a more open conversation rather than just go along with something and not call them out because I'm uncomfortable. Like, I think, you know, a relationship with a friend is. A relationship is just like a relationship with a significant other where if you want to grow with that person, you have to have those uncomfortable conversations. I don't think I did that back in the day. I think, like, if somebody said something that I didn't like, I was kind.
Courtney Miller
Of like, oh, that's actually really. That's very adult of you, too. Being in our 30s and making friends, it comes down to being willing to have those really tough conversations to make friends. True friends versus, as kids, we just had the circle of friends, and we just kind of dealt with the people that we had.
Ian Hecox
Yeah, exactly. You know, especially if it's somebody that's, like, not treating you well. Like, if they're. They're treating you like dirt, like, there's no reason to be friends with that person. Not worth your time, or if they're treating you like dirt, at least call it out and be like, hey, why are you treating me like this? And then maybe they'll realize, and then maybe they'll change. You know, it's been really funny lately on Twitter. I've been a part of, like, several, like, nostalgia memes that have, like, really popped off. Like, they'll just be, like, a random person that'll make, like, a food battle meme, and it'll get, like, a hundred thousand likes, and people be like, oh, my God, I remember that. It's so funny that now I'm. Now I'm like, I'm literally nostalgia for people. That's so weird. Like, it wasn't even that long ago. And it's like, we're still. We're still killing it. Like, some people talk about it like, we, like, I'm dead. They're like, oh, man. Memories. Yeah. Food battle is a really funny one. Just because it was such a stupid concept. Not that we wouldn't bring it back, but it's just so funny that people are, like. People are looking back on that fondly. It was like, some meme with, like, guy from Breaking Bad, like, having a freak out. And it was like, when I see the pink frosted sprinkled donut one Food battle again, it's like, what? So it's. Yeah, it's. It's really Funny. Like, I mean, obviously, the. The Internet moves a million miles an hour, so something that was made, you know, five years ago just feels ancient. Like, I pulled up somebody. Somebody liked a tweet of mine from 2012, and that's how it popped back up into my, like, feed. And so I retweeted it because it was really cringe. It was a tweet of mine from 2012 that said, I was at a club last night, and they played Gangnam Style, and almost everyone danced. Almost everyone did the dance. It was awesome.
Courtney Miller
That is so 2012.
Ian Hecox
It was super cringe. But I have to say that wasn't a lie. I wasn't making that up. I was. Yes, I went to a club, not really by my own volition, but I was at a club, and they did play Gangnam Style, and a lot of people did the, you know, the horse thing where they're, like, riding the horse and they do like, the. A little, like, lasso move that actually happened. No lie. And it was pretty awesome. It was a good moment.
Courtney Miller
How does that make you feel, though? So people are making nostalgia memes about you. Like, how does that directly make you feel? I mean, obviously, Smosh still exists, and it seems more reflective upon a past era, but what does Ian Hecox think?
Ian Hecox
I mean, when people make those nostalgia memes, Like, I enjoy it. Like, I think it's funny. Like, if. If people, like, tied. Tied that as something good from their childhood, then that's really cool. I think it's. I think it's cool that, like, you know, our content, as silly as it was, meant something to somebody. If somebody says, your stuff sucks now compared to Food Battle, that's a little ridiculous. If you like Food Battle more, then that's fine. Like, that's your own damn thing. But, yeah, if people are just like, oh, man, I missed that. I was like, well, then that meant something to you, or at least you enjoyed it, or, you know, at the very least, you know, you wasted your time with it. And thank you for. For the ad. Rev. It's very silly, but to see that kind of response to a nostalgia meme about Food Battle, to see, like, 100,000 likes from just, like, one random ass tweet on Twitter. I mean, it's cool. It's like, whoa, that's nuts.
Courtney Miller
Because Smosh has been. It's been 15 years now, right? Of smosh.
Ian Hecox
It's been about 15 years.
Courtney Miller
And so if you were to just. Just pulling numbers out of the air. But, like, let's imagine 15 years ago, you had viewers who were within the age range of 10 to 15.
Ian Hecox
Yeah.
Courtney Miller
So those are now 25 to 30 year olds.
Ian Hecox
Full ass, grown ass adults, families and.
Courtney Miller
Jobs and I don't know. How does that make you feel?
Ian Hecox
I know Charlie Puth was a fan back in the day.
Courtney Miller
Really?
Ian Hecox
Yeah, he, he, he entered like a contest that we did one time. Like, I want to say it was like a box man dance contest or something. I don't have the video, but yeah, I remember he entered. We remembered his name because that name is very unique and I think we might have like, sort of made fun of it, like Charlie Puth. So, yeah, it's very strange to think that there was like somebody that might have been like a kid. Now they're like an adult with like responsibilities and, and power. Like, I hope one day there's like the President of the United States was like, I remember when food battle was happening. That was crazy. When there's one food battle where I ended it by saying cat dick. And I don't know why that was crazy. When Anthony tried to use a celery as a pogo stick and broke both his legs. I really hope that happens. I want. Yeah, I hope that, that some people that are smosh fans or smosh viewers grow up and get into really powerful positions. Hit me up. I'm ready to join the Illuminati. Like if you. Yeah. If you get into a high government position. I'll do whatever it takes. All I want is power. I don't care about anything else. I just want power and control. I'll do whatever it takes. I'll do it. I'll steamroll over anybody.
Courtney Miller
I feel really uncomfortable back here suddenly.
Ian Hecox
Good.
Courtney Miller
Okay.
Ian Hecox
Yeah, it's wild. It's wild. Full grown adults that were kids when they watched our stuff, or I mean, full grown adults that were full grown adults when they watched our stuff are now hella old. This actually kind of ties in. Maybe I'll talk about two things because this one, I mean, I hope it doesn't sound depressing. Quick disclaimer. Before I get on to this next thing, I just want to say I'm going to be talking about alcohol. So anything I'm saying is just coming from. From my brain. My opinion. Please be safe. One interesting thing with the sort of COVID of everything, all the adults that I talk to about this whole situation, it seems like everyone is drinking more. Like everyone I talk to is like, yeah, I've been drinking more. Well, I guess disclaimer. Alcohol is poison. Yeah. I don't know, I just kind of like. I like alcohol. Some I don't like at all. I'm not. I'm never drinking to get drunk.
Courtney Miller
Huge disclaimer for anybody listening. If you're under the age of 21, please do not drink.
Ian Hecox
Or if you live in somewhere like the uk, there's other laws. Just obey the law. Obey the law. And don't drink too much, baby.
Courtney Miller
Drink responsibly.
Ian Hecox
It's. I mean, there's, there's no amount of. All right, let's, let's put it out. I just want to put that out here right now. There's no amount of alcohol that's safe. I don't care about these stupid reports that are like, you know, drinking one glass of red wine will actually reduce your heart. No, bro, it's alcohol. It's poison. Yeah, it's. It's ingrained in a lot of cultures and people drink it and live long lives. Sure. But when it comes down to it, it's poison. I think it's now it's more like people are just like, yeah, I don't know, there's nothing going on tonight. I guess I'll have a drink. So that's been an interesting thing. I've been talking with a lot of friends about that, and I've just kind of had to reevaluate my relationship with alcohol because I like it and I like to drink it and I like it in a social situation. But right now I'm living alone, so I'm not drinking it in a social situation. I'm like, oh, I just need to get through. Love is blind also. It's so hard when you're watching. When you're watching all these reality shows and they're having a drink every single frickin moment. And you're like, well, they seem fine. I guess I could have one. I don't know.
Courtney Miller
What would you surmise is the reason why you think people are increasing their consumption during the coronavirus?
Ian Hecox
Cause they got nothing better to do. We have so much time on our hands. Like I get done with work at 6 or something and I'm like, well, I have like five hours to kill before I want to go to sleep. I don't know, I'll have dinner and maybe I'll have like a beer or like, maybe I'll pour myself, you know, a little glass of tequila. Although I couldn't drink these last two days because I burned the shit out of my esophagus. And I wasn't like rolling around on the floor having A conniption. So I don't think I'm an alcoholic, but I. But I would say it's safe to say there's probably a small level. I have some level of dependency. Could I go a month without drinking? Yeah. Do I go a month without drinking? No. It's something that I need to evaluate, and I think it's more just like keeping an eye on your relationship with substances. It's anything like, doing anything, like, on a regular basis that's not good for you is bad. Do I eat a hamburger every day? No. Do I eat a hamburger Sometimes? Yeah. Do I go a month without eating a hamburger? Sometimes. Do I go a month without eating Nashville hot chicken? No. Nashville style hot chicken is the best. I'm drooling. It's so good, guys. I mean, I don't know if it's really, like, everywhere. Everywhere, but it's like, this really spicy fried chicken. It's so good, guys. And they put it on these, like, sweet rolls with, like, pickles and coleslaw.
Courtney Miller
Ian, I'm not seeing this on the topic list at all. What's happening?
Ian Hecox
Oh, I want some of that right now.
Courtney Miller
That does sound really good.
Ian Hecox
I think I have an addiction to Nashville style hot chicken.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. People have been consuming more Nashville hot chicken during the coronavirus.
Ian Hecox
I'm contributing to that mostly. So I just want to say, like, adults out there, like, you know, if you're drinking, just keep an eye on it. Like, really think about your relationship with alcohol and the effects that it has on you, your friends, your family. If you think you might have a certain dependence on it, or if you think you might have an addiction. There are resources out there, and I highly encourage you to seek it out. There's no shame in that. I don't know, guys. I hope you're being safe out there. That's the most important thing. It's a crazy time, but this is the most important time that we take care of ourselves, all right? That's the most important thing that I've come to in this time, is that there's so many things that are happening outside of our control. It's very easy to feel like this. There's nothing you can control. There's a lot of things that you can control in your life, whether it's your health or the place you're living in or the relationships you have. Maybe you get involved with a charity. Maybe you go outside your. You go into your community and you pick up trash. Like, there are things that you can control in this world, and I Think that's more important than ever right now because it feels like everything is out of control, and that's just not true. So think about the things that you can control in your life. All right, with that said, we're gonna cap this bad boy off with a shoot, dude.
Courtney Miller
Shoot, dude.
Ian Hecox
Shoot, dude.
Courtney Miller
Shoot, dude.
Ian Hecox
Shoot, dude. Shoot, dude.
Courtney Miller
Shoot, shoot, dude.
Ian Hecox
All right. This one comes from Emma. In seventh grade, my ELA class, that's English and language arts class, had a big project called person of the 20th century. Everyone had to dress up like someone who impacted the 1900s the most and give presentations on their life and prove why they had the biggest impact. One of my classmates had chosen Walt Disney as his person. I had noticed that my classmate was stuttering as he spoke. I thought this was part of his presentation because someone had told me that Walt Disney had a stutter. I cannot find if that was true or not. I asked him if the stutter was part of his imitation. The whole class turned to look at me, and the teacher and my classmate were telling me no and to stop. I immediately knew that what I said was wrong, and I didn't mean for it to be said the way I said it. I was so embarrassed, and I wish I was invisible. To this day, it is my biggest regret. Thankfully, it's forgotten and I am friends with the classmate. Shoot, dude.
Courtney Miller
That is a shoot dude.
Ian Hecox
Oh, no.
Courtney Miller
He's friends, though. It's okay.
Ian Hecox
Yeah, I feel that in my bones. I've said some really dumb things. Well, you were there when we did Olive Garden, and there's this item on the menu called the way it's said is pasta fajoule. I said it the wrong way very loudly and crumbled inside because I felt bad, man. I was like, I don't want to make anyone feel bad. I don't want to. You know, it sounds like when you say it not the Italian way. It sounds like you're saying a slur. Yeah. I apologize to some of the people in the crew. I felt. I felt bad. That was a shoot. That was a serious shoot, dude.
Courtney Miller
It was a mild shoot, dude. It was. It's one of those shoot dudes that definitely, like, I get where you're coming from, but I don't think anybody held it against you at the moment.
Ian Hecox
Yeah, it just doesn't feel good.
Courtney Miller
Right.
Ian Hecox
That was a shit dude for me. But I think the thing is, like, it's all about the intention, and if you think somebody was hurt and that. And it wasn't your intention to hurt that person, still make sure they're okay and apologize.
Courtney Miller
How do you think Emma did about it though? Because obviously it seems afterwards everything was rectified.
Ian Hecox
But yeah, I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure, like she explained it to that person, said I didn't know that you actually had a stutter. Like, you know, stutter's a pretty, it's a pretty common speech impediment. It's not, I mean like frickin Joe Biden has a stutter. It's not like she was trying to make fun of this guy. So I mean in those cases, like what can you do? You just apologize, say that wasn't my intention. Well guys, that's it for this wonderful Ian Rambles. What did you guys think? Did you like it? I don't know how much. I don't know. I mean like I don't think I can make a whole ass podcast about me rambling because there's only so many thoughts that are in my brain. But I hope you guys enjoyed this. As you can see, I'm wearing this sweet Twitch sweater. You probably can't really see it, especially if you're just listening. Big shout outs to Twitch. We just launched on there. Smosh games on Twitch. I believe it's Twitch tv. Smosh games. Check it out. Follow us, watch our stuff. We're going to be streaming every Monday, Wednesday and Friday. It's going to be a mixture of things like we're going to be doing bored AF on Mondays. We're going to be doing sort of a just chatting like variety kind of like show. Going to be doing a lot of weird fun stuff on Wednesdays and on Fridays we're going to be playing games because it's Twitch. You got to, you know, got to play some games. You never know what to expect. So I highly encourage you guys. Come check that out. Follow us on Twitch, give us some love. Throw some Ian emotes into into the chat.
Courtney Miller
Those emotes are so cute.
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Release Date: September 9, 2020
Host: Ian Hecox
The episode begins with Ian Hecox sharing his experience of returning alone to the podcast studio. Due to a hectic week and Courtney’s exhaustion from streaming, Ian finds himself hosting the episode solo. He humorously refers to this as "Ian Rambles," setting a relaxed and candid tone for the discussion.
Quote:
“So today we're recording this on Friday on the Wednesday, we did our first ever Twitch livestream for our new Smosh games Twitch channel. It all went very well. Everything went off without a hitch, except for this part when we thought it would be really funny if everyone drank some apple cider vinegar and pretended like they were drinking water.”
— Ian Hecox [01:21]
Ian recounts a humorous yet painful incident where he and his friends attempted to drink apple cider vinegar during a livestream. A mix-up led Ian to consume straight white vinegar, causing significant throat burns and discomfort. He discusses the aftermath, including the physical pain and his efforts to recover with yogurt, bread, and porridge.
Quote:
“So I chugged it and experienced a pretty terrible time. But I trucked through it. I was okay by the end, sort of. And then I had burns in my throat for about a day.”
— Ian Hecox [02:25]
Ian delves into his personal experiences during quarantine, highlighting the challenges of living alone versus those who are cohabiting with partners or roommates. He reflects on the varying impacts of lockdown on different individuals, from increased tensions with roommates to stronger bonds in relationships.
Quote:
“For myself, I’m completely. I live alone. It’s just me and the dog, and the dog doesn’t make for great conversation.”
— Ian Hecox [05:26]
A significant portion of the podcast is dedicated to Ian’s newfound interest in reality TV. Initially skeptical, he started watching shows like "Love is Blind," "Indian Matchmaking," and "Love on the Spectrum." He critiques the often exaggerated and scripted nature of these programs while appreciating those that provide meaningful representation, such as "Love on the Spectrum."
Quotes:
“I have started watching trashy reality TV. This is my confession.”
— Ian Hecox [05:28]
“One reality show that I did very much like and made me all warm and fuzzy was love on the spectrum. Following a group of people with autism.”
— Ian Hecox [28:21]
Ian explores the complexities of maintaining friendships as one transitions from their 20s to their 30s. He notes that as responsibilities grow—such as careers, relationships, and possibly children—the effort required to sustain friendships increases. He emphasizes the importance of actively reaching out and nurturing relationships beyond work circles.
Quote:
“Keeping or managing friendships in your 30s... a lot of people are getting deep into a relationship or a marriage. They got kids, they have a professional life, so now they're living in some other city.”
— Ian Hecox [31:25]
Ian shares his amusement with the resurgence of nostalgia memes on Twitter, particularly those referencing past Smosh content like "Food Battle." He reflects on how content from years ago still resonates and brings joy to long-time fans, highlighting the enduring impact of their early work.
Quote:
“I’ve been a part of several nostalgia memes that have popped off. Like, they'll just be like, a random person that'll make, like, a food battle meme, and it'll get, like, a hundred thousand likes.”
— Ian Hecox [39:47]
Addressing the uptick in alcohol consumption during the pandemic, Ian candidly discusses his own relationship with alcohol. He provides a strong disclaimer against excessive drinking and encourages listeners to be mindful of their substance use. He shares personal struggles and emphasizes the importance of seeking help if needed.
Quotes:
“Alcohol is poison. I don’t know, I just kind of like. I like alcohol. Some I don’t like at all. I’m not. I’m never drinking to get drunk.”
— Ian Hecox [46:43]
“Adults out there, like, you know, if you're drinking, just keep an eye on it. Like, really think about your relationship with alcohol and the effects that it has on you, your friends, your family.”
— Ian Hecox [50:03]
In his concluding remarks, Ian emphasizes the importance of focusing on what one can control amidst the chaos of the pandemic. He encourages proactive behaviors such as community involvement and self-care. Additionally, he shares a personal anecdote about a school presentation mishap, highlighting the value of intention and reconciliation.
Quote:
“Think about the things that you can control in your life. All right, with that said, we're gonna cap this bad boy off with a shoot, dude.”
— Ian Hecox [51:44]
Final Thought:
Ian wraps up by promoting upcoming content on their Twitch channel, inviting listeners to engage with Smosh in new interactive formats.
“If you take spicy or acidic foods out of my life, do I even have a life?”
— Ian Hecox [05:26]
“Watching trash isn't all bad. Every once in a while we gotta unplug.”
— Ian Hecox [30:25]
“There’s no amount of alcohol that’s safe. I don’t care about these stupid reports that are like, you know, drinking one glass of red wine will actually reduce your heart.”
— Ian Hecox [46:56]
“Nashville style hot chicken is the best. I'm drooling. It's so good, guys.”
— Ian Hecox [49:59]
“There’s so many things that are happening outside of our control. It’s very easy to feel like there's nothing you can control.”
— Ian Hecox [50:03]
In this engaging solo episode of Smosh Mouth, Ian Hecox offers an unfiltered glimpse into his life during quarantine. From humorous health mishaps and reflections on reality TV to deep dives into friendship dynamics and personal challenges with alcohol, Ian covers a broad spectrum of topics. His candidness and relatability make the episode a valuable listen for both longtime fans and newcomers seeking honest conversations about navigating life’s unpredictable moments.