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Episode 1902 - Ask Farnoosh and Georgia: 2025 Taxes, Policy and the Big Beautiful Bill

Date: November 7, 2025
Host: Farnoosh Torabi
Guest: Georgia Lee Hussey, Founder & CEO of Modernist Financial

Overview

In this special Friday “Ask Farnoosh” episode, Farnoosh is joined by financial planner Georgia Lee Hussey to discuss the far-reaching implications of the newly passed “Big Beautiful Bill,” its effects on 2025 taxes, policies, and the social safety net. The conversation unpacks how these legislative changes will impact everyday taxpayers, highlights the interplay between personal money values and societal priorities, and offers concrete questions and steps for tax planning in the coming year. The episode blends financial expertise with candid, values-driven analysis—touching on politics, ethics, and practical actions listeners can take.

Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Introduction & Show Context

• Farnoosh recaps the week’s previous episodes and celebrates the show’s 10th anniversary alongside Georgia, who is also celebrating Modernist Financial’s 10 years.
• Georgia shares the origin and mission of Modernist Financial:

  “Our work is to help people structure their wealth around their progressive values … clients in the $5 to $20 million range … what does it mean to show up around our values in this moment and within the inequitable structures that exist in the American economy?” (06:00)

• The conversation will include political aspects, with a reminder that taxes are inherently political (“taxes are political whether you like it or not.” [02:53])

2. The “Big Beautiful Bill” and 2025 Tax Changes

[10:48 - 13:37]

• Georgia explains the bill as a resurgence of “trickle-down economics”—a concept disproven by many economists.
• Most people will save 3–5% of their income due to ongoing reductions in tax brackets (from 2017) and new provisions for the ultra-wealthy.
• These tax cuts are funded by defunding social safety nets—notably SNAP, healthcare, and housing assistance.
• High earners will not see disproportionate savings, but the downstream effect will hurt society’s most vulnerable:

  “This bill, in order to continue those tax cuts … is intentionally defunding basic social safety net needs.” (11:22)

• Farnoosh and Georgia both urge looking at the “practical” number:

  “You’ve already integrated these savings into your lifestyle … we’re recommending that [clients] take that 3–5% and ask, ‘Who could I give some money to?’” (12:36)

• Charitable giving and 501(c)(4) political donations are recommended, even if tax-deductible status isn’t available, since “our clients don’t need more tax benefits” (12:54)

3. Policy Impact Discussion - Who Really Pays?

[14:00 - 17:54]

• Cuts will result in $12 million lost in healthcare, $3 million lost to SNAP, and limits on housing vouchers “as homelessness intensifies.”
• Georgia notes that while not all effects will be immediate due to delayed implementation (post-2026 elections), some impacts, like reduced SNAP benefits, are already visible.
• Farnoosh gives a local political example:

  “Some people lost their SNAP benefits… You go to the grocery store and there’s people asking for money… That is a hard thing to unsee.” (16:09)

• Georgia emphasizes the “dominant money story”—that “the rich are heartless”—but suggests that comprehensive, values-based tax planning includes acknowledging systemic impacts:

  “Taxes are the price we pay for civilization… There is no capitalism in the market that will solve hunger, houselessness, civil rights … Systemic solutions are for that.” (17:19)

4. Money, Values, and Why “Everything Is Political”

[17:54 - 21:06]

• Farnoosh addresses the criticism that the discussion is “too political.”
• Georgia responds with a George Orwell adaptation:

  “The belief that taxes are not political is itself a political opinion.” (18:27)

• Financial, investment, and tax decisions all have political and ethical implications:

  “Money is so political, I can’t unsee that … If that’s not what you want to hear about, that’s cool. Everybody else will basically tell you that money is not political.” (19:03)

• Ethics in financial planning: act with generosity and avoid “gaming the system” when society pays the price.

5. Practical Steps: How to Respond & Plan for 2025 Taxes

[23:37 - 28:38]

• Questions to ask your accountant or yourself:
  • How much am I saving under the new law? (“We’re asking every client to calculate … how much the client is saving. … When you apply it to somebody with a high income … ‘Oh, that’s a lot of money.’” —Georgia, 24:00)
  • What is the impact of my tax savings?
  • For high net worth individuals, would you consider making a donation for reparations or to underfunded causes?
• Georgia's advice: “Just donate it. There’s no wrong answer right now because so many important things are being underfunded.” (25:37)
• Charitable giving under the new landscape:
  • If you don't itemize deductions, consider donating to 501(c)(4) organizations (like advocacy/policy work), which may not be deductible, but are crucial for system change.
  • Find more about the difference between 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) organizations on Modernist University.

6. Pushing Back Against Anti-tax Rhetoric & Misinformation

[28:38 - 32:39]

• Georgia links the anti-tax movement to longstanding alt-right narratives, citing the Southern Poverty Law Center’s “hate map”:

  “Anti-government, anti-tax movement is an alt-right movement … I am wary of a narrative that … will continue to defund a tax system that, previous to this year, 70% [went] to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, housing vouchers.”

• Warns listeners not to let these ideas distort their understanding of public goods.
• Georgia also offers a reality-check on local safety and protest culture in Portland, pushing back on negative and misleading narratives.

7. Parting Thoughts & Recommendations for Tax Season 2025

[33:06 - 35:59]

• Be kind to the IRS and civil servants:

  “There’s a very strong anti-IRS narrative and the IRS is made up of individual people like you and me who have a hard job that is under-resourced and underfinanced and has been for decades … Put on your patient pants and hug your accountant.” (33:09)

• With chaotic implementation, filing extensions may be wise.
• Investment strategy in a volatile market: Stay diversified; don’t attempt to market-time based on fear or headlines.
  • “Make sure you own some international stock … about 40% international, 60% US. … If you’re overvalued in the US … donate some of it. … It’s a really nice way to rebalance.” (34:42)
• Ultimately, “reorient your relationship with money and taxes,” understanding the ethical context of your decisions as part of a bigger societal picture.

Notable Quotes

• Farnoosh: “When you’re talking about money, you are talking about issues, you’re talking about platforms, you’re talking about POVs, which again, it’s a lived experience and that involves your political views as well.” (19:27)

• Georgia Lee Hussey:

  • “Taxes are the price we pay for civilization.” (17:19, quoting Oliver Wendell Holmes)
  • “The belief that taxes are not political is itself a political opinion.” (18:27, adapting George Orwell)
  • “Put on your patient pants and hug your accountant.” (33:14)
  • “Just donate it. There’s no wrong answer right now because so many important things are being underfunded.” (25:37)

• On charitable giving:

  • “We’re never going to be able to individually replace the money that was going to [public organizations] from the federal government that then went out to rural libraries, tribes, organizations … just severely underfunded.” (26:44)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 06:00 – Georgia explains Modernist Financial’s mission and client focus
• 10:48 – The “Big Beautiful Bill,” tax savings, and societal costs
• 14:30 – Details on what’s being cut (SNAP, housing vouchers, healthcare)
• 16:09 – Real-world impacts of defunded social programs in local elections
• 18:27 – Why “everything is political” in money decisions
• 23:37 – Questions to ask your accountant and actionable steps
• 28:38 – The roots of anti-tax rhetoric and the importance of public goods
• 33:10 – Parting advice for tax season: patience, kindness, and sound investment allocation

Final Thoughts

This episode offers a nuanced, values-driven approach to financial planning amid shifting tax policies and political winds. Listeners are encouraged to proactively understand how new laws impact their taxes, have informed conversations with their accountants, and “right-size” their giving in light of rising needs and shrinking government support. Ethically grounded, Georgia and Farnoosh challenge listeners to view their money decisions as part of a broader civic responsibility—reminding us that every tax policy and donation ultimately shapes the society we all live in.

Further Resources

• Modernist University: Tax & Policy Resources
• Modernist Financial Blog: What is a 501(c)(3) vs 501(c)(4)?
• Recommended Calculator: Tax Foundation Tax Calculator

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