So Supernatural: CONSPIRACY – The Vatican's Chronovisor

Hosts: Rasha Pecorero and Yvette Gentile
Release Date: March 13, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode explores one of true crime’s most bizarre and supernatural occurrences: the tale of the Vatican’s alleged Chronovisor—a mysterious device said to allow its user to view any moment from the past. Sisters and co-hosts Rasha and Yvette embark on a deep-dive into the origins of the Chronovisor, the man behind its creation, the Church’s involvement, the evidence presented, skepticism, a dramatic deathbed confession, and lingering conspiracy theories. Is the Chronovisor fact, fiction, or something far more complex hidden deep within Vatican vaults?

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Origins of Marcello Pellegrino Ernetti and the Chronovisor

[04:10-07:48]

• Marcello Pellegrino Ernetti was a Catholic priest with exceptional talents in music, language, and science.
• At 16, Ernetti joined a Benedictine monastery, feeling his skills should serve a divine purpose.
• In 1952, tasked with improving church acoustics, Ernetti experienced a supernatural event: during an experiment, he allegedly heard the voice of his deceased father through sound equipment—addressing him by his childhood nickname "Zucchini."
• Pope Pius XII suggests a scientific explanation: perhaps sound vibrations never fully dissipate, and sensitive devices might "pick up" echoes of the past.

2. The Birth of the Chronovisor

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• Inspired by the incident, Ernetti theorizes a machine could capture audio—and even visual—recordings from history.
• After WWII, Ernetti allegedly assembles a secret team—including renowned scientists Enrico Fermi and Wernher von Braun—to develop the Chronovisor.
• The device resembles a TV with dials and antennas, supposedly allowing the user to view and listen to any historic moment by "tuning in" to lingering vibrations.

Notable Quote

"All he cared about was that Fermi was a damn good physicist." – Yvette Gentile [11:21]

3. Supposed Operation and Successes of the Chronovisor

[14:15-18:20]

• The device is not interactive (view-only) and cannot see present or future events.
• Early tests reportedly tune into Mussolini's speeches, then Napoleon’s, followed by ancient Roman scenes, and ultimately biblical events.
• In 1956, Ernetti claims to witness the Last Supper, Judas’ betrayal, and the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. Some details conflict with established tradition, such as the absence of Veronica and the nature of Simon’s involvement.

Memorable Moment

"After watching the crucifixion play out in what seems like real time, Ernetti knows he will never be the same." – Rasha Pecorero [18:20]

4. Vatican Secrecy and the Fate of the Device

[19:52-21:24]

• The Church, concerned over potential misuse, orders the Chronovisor dismantled and hidden in the Vatican Archives.
• The contents of the archives fuel conspiracy theories, including rumors of hidden letters from the Virgin Mary, alien technology, and magical objects.

Personal Reflection

"I believe all of that... I know there's a whole nother vault with all of that stuff that you just mentioned. I'm certain of it." – Yvette Gentile [21:24]

5. Ernetti’s Quest for Truth and Public Disclosure

[22:33-27:38]

• A decade later, Ernetti shares the Chronovisor story with French priest François Brune, who is frustrated with the "metaphoric" turn in theology.
• In 1972, Ernetti publicly claims he photographed the past and provides still images from the Crucifixion and a purported transcript of the lost Roman play Thyestes.
• Skepticism abounds due to Ernetti’s refusal to reveal technical details and the questionable authenticity of his evidence.

Notable Quotes

"He claims the chronovisor was made of and this is a quote. 'Mysterious metals.'" – Yvette Gentile [25:05]
"They didn't think to record it at the time, but they did write down every word each actor said." – Rasha Pecorero [27:52]

6. The Hoax Allegations & The Deathbed Confession

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• Experts cast doubt: the Jesus photo resembles known church art; the Thyestes transcript is too short and simplistic.
• 1994: On his deathbed, Ernetti allegedly confesses to a relative (pseudonym: Mario) that the Chronovisor never worked, the play transcript was a fabrication, and the evidence was a hoax. Yet, Ernetti asserts some truth: he tried to build the machine and had spiritual knowledge of prior lives and attempts.
• The confession’s veracity remains unconfirmed, as Mario’s identity is unknown.

Notable Quote

"It looks like a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy." – Rasha Pecorero [32:12]

7. Theories, Vatican Silence, and Lingering Mystery

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• The Vatican has never confirmed or denied the story, fueling speculation.
• Some believe the Chronovisor is real and still in church hands; others suggest Ernetti hid deeper, spiritual messages within the evidence.
• Author Peter Krassa posits Ernetti’s narrative could be a coded way to discuss occult or New Age beliefs forbidden by the Church.

Notable Quote

"Maybe the answers to humanity's biggest questions aren't hidden in those Pentagon files or the FBI vaults. Maybe they've been tucked away in the Vatican archives this entire time." – Yvette Gentile [39:53]

Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On hearing the past through scientific means
  "Maybe sound doesn't actually fade or dissipate into nothing. Instead, maybe those vibrations exist forever." – Yvette Gentile [07:48]

• On the consequences of the chronovisor's misuse
  "People could use it to spy on more recent developments, like, say, a Pentagon meeting that ended five minutes ago." – Yvette Gentile [19:52]

• Personal wonder and skepticism
  "I'd give just about anything to peek inside that vault or to even have a chronovisor of my very own." – Rasha Pecorero [40:25]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:10] Marcello Ernetti's background & initial inspiration
• [07:48] Pope’s “sound waves of the past” theory
• [10:13] Theoretical basis & assembly of scientific team
• [14:15] Alleged operation and successes of the Chronovisor
• [16:01] Biblical events viewed (Last Supper, Crucifixion, Resurrection)
• [19:52] Vatican secrecy and dismantling of the device
• [22:33] Ernetti confides in François Brune and eventual public claims
• [27:52] Evidence presented: Jesus photo and Thyestes transcript
• [32:12] Skepticism and expert reactions
• [33:30] Deathbed confession and ambiguity
• [36:01] Conspiracy theories, Vatican silence, and enduring mysteries
• [39:53] Reflections on knowledge and secret archives

Closing Thoughts & Tone

Maintaining a blend of investigative rigor and supernatural intrigue, Rasha and Yvette strike a balance between belief and skepticism. The episode concludes with open-ended curiosity about the Vatican’s secrets. Rasha and Yvette’s signature conversational style interweaves history, conspiracy, and personal anecdotes, making the mystery of the Chronovisor both accessible and haunting.

For further exploration: Listeners are encouraged to reach out if they want a dedicated episode on Vatican archives and other secret objects or knowledge rumored to be hidden beneath its walls.