So Supernatural — "ALIEN: USOs (Unidentified Submerged Objects)"

Podcast: So Supernatural
Host: Audiochuck | Crime House
Episode Date: March 20, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the eerie and under-explored phenomenon of USOs—Unidentified Submerged Objects. While much of pop culture imagines alien activity descending from the sky, hosts Yvette Gentile and Racha Pecorero explore the theory that extraterrestrial visitors might have been operating from the depths of our oceans for centuries. Pulling from historical records, government reports, and credible eyewitness accounts, the duo unravels the reality-bending possibility that our true "alien invasion" could come from below.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Subverting the Hollywood Narrative (01:32–02:57)

• Yvette opens by name-dropping classic alien movies, painting the trope of aerial invasions.
• She challenges the notion: "Most of these movies suggest our intergalactic enemies will come from above... But Raja and I recently learned an alien invasion might not unfold the way Hollywood tells us it will." (Yvette Gentile, 02:48)

2. Historical Case: The Utsuro-bune Incident (03:35–11:40)

The 1803 Japanese Mystery

• Setting: Hitachi Province, Japan, 1803. Fishermen spot a strange sealed vessel, described as a "pot with a lid" with glass windows and mysterious script inside.
• Encounter: A beautiful, pale woman with red-and-white "fur-like" hair and unidentifiable clothing exits the vessel, clutching a wooden box.
  • “Another mysterious thing about this woman. She’s carrying a wooden box, but she doesn’t open it or set it down the entire time she’s on the beach.” (Racha Pecorero, 06:34)
• Secrecy & Return: Due to Japan’s isolationist laws of the Sakoku period, the locals—unable to communicate with her and fearing reprisals—send the woman and her vessel back to sea. The writing inside remains undeciphered.
  • “To this day, nobody has been able to identify it as any known language.” (Yvette Gentile, 07:40)
• The event fades into folklore, dismissed as myth by most historians.
• Theory emerges: Was this “visitor” from another world, not simply another country?

3. Academic Re-examination: Professor Kazuo Tanaka (13:28–15:35)

• In 1995, Prof. Tanaka discovers similarities between Utsuro-bune drawings and accounts of modern flying saucers.
• He connects historical and contemporary UFO/USO phenomenology: stories of downed craft, undecipherable writing, and the consistent motif of vehicles that operate both in air and water.

4. USOs, UAPs, and “Transmedium Phenomena” (15:35–16:54)

• US military’s evolving terminology—UAPs (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena)—now includes craft that move seamlessly between air and sea.
• "Transmedium" described: craft sighted both in atmosphere and underwater—implying a technology beyond current human capabilities.

5. Shag Harbor Incident, Nova Scotia, 1967 (16:54–23:04)

• Event Recap:
  • Four lights plummet from the sky, splash down into water. Multiple credible witnesses, including police.
  • Coast Guard finds a floating, shape-shifting object—until it disappears, leaving only foam behind.
  • Pilots report midair encounters with a hovering craft.
• Cover-Up Claims:
  • Book by Chris Stiles and Graham Sims (2018): Divers allege the Navy found wreckage 25 miles from crash, with impressions suggesting “landing gear.”
  • Two vessels tracked underwater; one appears for “repairs” before both exit the water and soar into the sky.
  • “According to high ranking members of the Air Force, there isn’t a single airplane that can fly and navigate the depths of the ocean... we simply don’t have the technology to make that happen yet. Nor does any other country.” (Yvette Gentile, 23:04)
• Implication: Official explanations can’t account for these events.

6. Modern Footage: Aguadilla, Puerto Rico, 2013 (25:57–30:47)

• Incident: US Border Patrol crew records a round, wingless object on thermal imaging. Object darts above water, apparently dives, splits into two, and flies away—at an estimated 120 miles per hour.
  • “There is not a single plane, helicopter, or known vehicle that can dip in and out of the ocean, let alone break into two and continue flying.” (Yvette Gentile, 27:35)
• Skeptics’ Lantern Theory:
  • Some claim it was hotel lanterns. Racha and Yvette dispute: “That orb was traveling close to 120 miles per hour... lanterns do not fly that fast, right?” (Racha Pecorero, 29:23)
  • “The objects in the video were often moving against the wind, not being blown away by it.” (Racha Pecorero, 30:52)

7. USO Sightings & Government Interest (31:01–33:31)

• Navy and DoD are officially concerned: USO encounters are seen as navigational hazards.
• 2022–2025: Over 9,000 UFO/USO/UAP reports near US coasts—about a third of total reported sightings.
• Hypothesis: Alien “bases” could exist on ocean floors.
  • “Oceanographers have detected strange objects deep under the sea. And apparently they’re large enough to hold an entire city.” (Yvette Gentile, 32:40)

8. Rumored Alien Bases & Government Secrecy (33:31–35:47)

• Alleged sites: Off Puerto Rico, Catalina Island, and Malibu’s “Sycamore Knoll.”
• Google Earth’s blurring of the Malibu site’s coordinates in 2025 sparks conspiracy speculation.
• Barriers to confirmation: These sites’ remoteness and depth prevent investigation; they could be natural or artificial, benign or bases for alien activity.

9. Ongoing Disclosure & The Future (35:47–37:09)

• US government is funding UAP research; Congressional hearings continue as recently as Sept 2025.
• “It seems like we’re entering a new era of disclosure, with more government officials and decorated members of the military coming forward.” (Yvette Gentile, 35:56)
• Yvette concludes: If “high ranking government officials tell us they’ve seen stuff... we need to believe them... what they mean is we didn’t make it ourselves, but the blueprints might be hiding just beneath the surface.” (Yvette Gentile, 36:23)

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Transmedium Phenomena:
  “There isn’t a single airplane that can fly and navigate the depths of the ocean... we simply don’t have the technology to make that happen yet. Nor does any other country.”
  —Yvette Gentile (23:04)

• On Skeptics’ Explanations:
  “That orb was traveling close to 120 miles per hour... lanterns do not fly that fast, right?”
  —Racha Pecorero (29:23)

• On Government Involvement:
  “The Navy still takes USOs very seriously. The U.S. Naval Institute even posted on their website that unidentified submerged objects are a major threat.”
  —Yvette Gentile (31:01)

• On the Search for Truth:
  “If high ranking government officials tell us they’ve seen stuff with their very own eyes, we need to believe them. And when they tell us there’s nothing like this technology on planet Earth, what they mean is we didn’t make it ourselves, but the blueprints might be hiding just beneath the surface, and our future may very well depend on it.”
  —Yvette Gentile (36:18)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Reframing Alien Encounters: 01:32–02:57
• Utsuro-bune Story: 03:35–11:40
• Academic Perspective (Tanaka): 13:28–15:35
• Transmedium Phenomena & UAPs: 15:35–16:54
• Shag Harbor Incident: 16:54–23:04
• Aguadilla Incident & Video Evidence: 25:57–30:47
• USO Reports & Speculated Bases: 31:01–35:47
• Outlook on Disclosure: 35:47–37:09

Summary

Through historical mysteries, recent credible sighting reports, and ongoing government interest, the episode compellingly raises the possibility that the deep sea may hide more secrets—and perhaps more “neighbors”—than we ever imagined. The hosts combine skeptical inquiry with open-minded wonder, inviting listeners to consider that the answer to the age-old “are we alone?” might be hiding just beneath the waves.

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