DISAPPEARED: The Lost City of Atlantis

Summary

So Supernatural Podcast Summary: "DISAPPEARED: The Lost City of Atlantis"

Podcast Information:

• Title: So Supernatural
• Host/Author: audiochuck | Crime House
• Episode: DISAPPEARED: The Lost City of Atlantis
• Release Date: June 20, 2025
• Description: Most mysteries can be solved by looking at the facts. But sometimes, the truth lies somewhere in the unknown… Enter the realm of true crime’s most bizarre occurrences, and unravel all the possible explanations. No matter how strange or surreal they get.

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Introduction

In the episode titled "DISAPPEARED: The Lost City of Atlantis," hosts Yvette Gentile and Kylie Lowe delve deep into the enigmatic legend of Atlantis, exploring its origins, proposed discoveries, and enduring allure. They navigate through historical accounts, modern archaeological claims, and metaphysical interpretations to present a comprehensive exploration of Atlantis.

Atlantis in Plato's Writings [06:41 - 10:36]

The discussion begins with the foundational source of the Atlantis legend—Plato, the renowned Greek philosopher.

• Kylie Lowe explains, “The earliest recorded mention of Atlantis comes from the Greek philosopher Plato in the year 360 BCE” (06:41).
• Plato described Atlantis as a vast and advanced civilization that existed around 9,600 BCE, featuring impressive architecture and a circular city layout surrounded by islands and moats.
• According to Plato, Atlantis thrived as a utopian society but eventually succumbed to arrogance and corruption, leading to a catastrophic natural disaster that sank the entire continent beneath the ocean (09:12, 10:09).

Rediscovering Myth: From Troy to Atlantis [11:45 - 14:30]

The narrative transitions to the discovery of Troy by Heinrich Schliemann in 1870, drawing parallels between mythical cities and archaeological reality.

• Yvette Gentile notes, “Up until that year, many people thought Troy was fictional too” (12:44).
• The realization that Troy was real spurred interest in other mythical cities like Atlantis, suggesting that some legends might be rooted in historical truth.

Ignatius Donnelly's Antediluvian World [17:26 - 22:14]

The episode highlights Ignatius Donnelly, a former U.S. Congressman who authored "Antediluvian World," positing that Atlantis was the cradle of all modern civilizations.

• Yvette explains, “In 1882, just 12 years after Troy is discovered, a guy named Ignatius Donnelly enters the chat” (17:26).
• Donnelly theorized that Atlantis was located in the Atlantic Ocean before the continents split, serving as a cultural and technological hub influencing global societies.
• His ideas gained popularity despite criticisms regarding his methodology and lack of scientific rigor (22:14).

Edgar Cayce's Visions and Predictions [23:28 - 27:37]

The hosts delve into the metaphysical realm with Edgar Cayce, a mystic who claimed psychic visions about Atlantis.

• Kylie Lowe describes Cayce’s abilities: “Edgar believes he can use psychic abilities to heal sick people by dreaming” (23:28).
• Cayce envisioned Atlantis possessing advanced technologies, including silicon chips and sustainable energy sources long before such inventions existed (26:14).
• He predicted the discovery of Atlantis near Bimini in the Bahamas around 1968-1969, igniting widespread interest (27:37).

The Bimini Road: A Clash of Hope and Skepticism [28:35 - 31:26]

Following Cayce's prediction, the Bimini Road discovery is scrutinized.

• In 1968, scuba divers discovered an underwater formation resembling a cobblestone road near Bimini, sparking claims it was evidence of Atlantis (28:35).
• Yvette shares the enthusiasm: “everyone is speculating that this must have been an Atlantean throwaway that sank with the rest of the city” (29:24).
• However, scientific investigations concluded that the Bimini Road was a natural rock formation, debunking its association with Atlantis (31:26).

Alternative Theories: Antarctica and Southern Spain [31:26 - 40:29]

Exploring alternative locations, the hosts discuss theories linking Atlantis to Antarctica and Southern Spain.

• The Piri Reis map (1513) is cited by some as evidence of Atlantis in Antarctica due to its depiction of the continent without ice, although this is largely dismissed (32:11, 34:49).
• In 2018, Merlin Burrows claimed to find clues in Spain pointing to Atlantis, but these were later revealed to be artificial structures built for plankton habitats (37:18, 39:27).

The Santorini Connection: Reality Behind the Legend [40:29 - 47:27]

A more plausible theory connects Atlantis to the Minoan civilization on Santorini.

• Kylie outlines how the Minoans, an advanced civilization, were devastated by a massive volcanic eruption around 1600 BCE (44:28).
• This catastrophic event drastically altered Santorini’s geography and led to the disappearance of the Minoans, possibly inspiring Plato’s Atlantis story (40:29, 46:31).
• The hosts suggest that Plato may have used the real devastation of Santorini to craft a cautionary tale about societal collapse (47:27).

Conclusion: Atlantis as a Symbol of Hope and Caution [48:02 - 49:00]

Yvette and Kylie conclude by reflecting on the enduring legacy of Atlantis.

• Yvette emphasizes, “the story of Atlantis is about hope,” highlighting its role in inspiring humanity to learn from past mistakes and strive for a better future (48:02).
• Kylie echoes this sentiment, suggesting that whether Atlantis was real or mythical, its story serves as a powerful reminder of the potential and fragility of human civilization (49:00).

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Notable Quotes:

• Kylie Lowe: “The earliest recorded mention of Atlantis comes from the Greek philosopher Plato in the year 360 BCE” (06:41)
• Yvette Gentile: “Ignatius feels confident enough about his theory to publish it in a book. It claims that all modern day cultures evolved from one particular ancient civilization, Atlantis” (17:26)
• Kylie Lowe: “The destruction was one of the greatest disasters in all of human history” (21:36)
• Yvette Gentile: “But some people do think Atlantis sank in the Bermuda Triangle, and that's why there's so many eerie disappearances and strange events that still happen there” (29:28)
• Kylie Lowe: “The Minoans were one of the first human cultures ever. They also built huge cities and made beautiful art” (45:45)

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Final Thoughts: "DISAPPEARED: The Lost City of Atlantis" offers a thorough examination of one of history’s most captivating mysteries. Through historical analysis, exploration of modern theories, and a balanced discussion of evidence and skepticism, Yvette Gentile and Kylie Lowe provide listeners with a nuanced perspective on Atlantis, blending factual history with the allure of the supernatural.

For more insights and discussions on supernatural mysteries, follow So Supernatural on Instagram at sosupernaturalpod and visit their website at sosupernaturalpodcast.com.

Transcript

[Kylie Lowe]

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[Yvette Gentile]

Why?

[Kylie Lowe]

Because every case I cover comes from the heart of my home, New England. From the rocky Maine coast to the historic streets of Boston to the quiet corners of Vermont and beyond, I investigate stories filled with untold twists, enduring questions, and voices that deserve to be heard. So. So if you're ready to explore the darker side of New England, join me every week for Dark Down East. Listen now. Wherever you get your podcasts, savor every.

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[Kylie Lowe]

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[Yvette Gentile]

Mythical in a sense, because there is just so much romance, so much history, especially Venice. So when I heard that there was a clock on this place, I realized.

[Kylie Lowe]

Okay, like, time to go, time to book the ticket. Yeah, you heard me right.

[Yvette Gentile]

Scientists don't think Venice will be around.

[Kylie Lowe]

For centuries to come because it's sinking.

[Yvette Gentile]

About 2 millimeters per year. And that might seem like nothing, but trust me, it's adding up. The Experts say by 2150, Venice will be completely underwater. So this has totally changed my mind on today's topic.

[Kylie Lowe]

A story I sort of assumed was legend now seems entirely possible.

[Yvette Gentile]

The lost city of Atlantis. It was thought to be this incredibly advanced civilization filled with beautiful architecture, central power operated by a giant crystal. It even had television. Only the entire place supposedly sank to the bottom of the Ocean somewhere around 9,600 BCE.

[Kylie Lowe]

The story of Atlantis has primarily come from one source.

[Yvette Gentile]

The Greek philosopher Plato, which is why.

[Kylie Lowe]

Many people think it's nothing more than fiction.

[Yvette Gentile]

That and the fact that no one's.

[Kylie Lowe]

Really been able to find any compelling evidence of it until recently. I'm Ashley Flowers.

[Yvette Gentile]

And this is so supernatural. Welcome back to another episode of so supernatural. I'm Yvette Gentile.

[Kylie Lowe]

And I'm her sister Racha Pecorero. And today we're talking about a topic that I have an incredibly unique personal connection with. The lost city of Atlantis. Okay, now bear with me. It's going to be a little bit of a long story, but entertaining nonetheless. So, as you know, Yvette and I have different fathers. And our mom got pregnant by my father. And she basically told him if he was in the operating room or in the hospital room when I was born, he could name me whatever he wanted. And so the ultrasound said that I was supposed to be a boy. So In December of 1978, when I came out a girl, he had no clue what to name me. So he ended up disappearing for like three days. And I was unnamed for three days. And he ended up coming back. And he said that he read this story about the lost continent of Atlantis and that it was a beautiful story about this princess named Lady Rasha who ended up going down with Atlantis when it fell because she wanted to protect Atlantis. And so he named Murasha. But to this day.

[Yvette Gentile]

Wait for it.

[Kylie Lowe]

I have never found this book. I am sure he was smoking a whole lot of pakalolo. You can google that to figure out what that is. But the funny thing is, is the name he had originally picked out was. Do you remember Yvette?

[Yvette Gentile]

I think I do. It was, Dear God, Jesus Christ, I am. I mean, something so far out there.

[Kylie Lowe]

That was my middle name. Evolution was supposed to be my first name.

[Yvette Gentile]

Lord help us all. I know when he told mom this and then mom told me, I thought to myself, there is no way in this earth that my sister is going to be named that. I'm going to fight tooth and nail. There's no way. I don't know what he was smoking, but it was some heavy duty stuff.

[Kylie Lowe]

But you liked Rasha.

[Yvette Gentile]

Well, yes, of course I love Rasha. Well, regardless of if there was ever a lady Rasha or not, when it comes to Ancient legends. The lost city of Atlantis is sort of the mother of them all. I mean, even if you've never read the original story, you've probably heard of this mythical lost kingdom in some way, shape or form. But let's start at the beginning.

[Kylie Lowe]

The earliest recorded mention of Atlantis comes from the Greek philosopher Plato in the year 360 BCE. He's famous for writing some of the earliest arguments about ethics, justice, love and knowledge. So basically, he's kind of a big deal. The writings are so profound, people still study them to this day. But his essays also mention an incredible story, one that Plato seems to portray as being true. A story of a great kingdom that existed not 9,000 years before Plato himself was even born. It was called Atlantis.

[Yvette Gentile]

For context, that means Atlantis was thriving just a few centuries after saber toothed tigers and woolly mammoths had gone extinct. And it would be another few thousand years after that before written language was invented. So if true, we're talking about a super ancient civilization.

[Kylie Lowe]

But even though it was really old, Plato says that the people of Atlantis were far ahead of any other human beings because they had a massive empire. So imagine taking all of northern Africa and tacking on half the country of Turkey. That's how big Atlantis supposedly was. The city was said to be somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean, separated by a very narrow waterway. So according to Plato, there was a huge continent on one side and another continent on the other.

[Yvette Gentile]

Plato wrote that the city was circular, surrounded by islands and moats. So you can kind of think of this like a dartboard in the center or the bullseye was the downtown hub, full of amazing temples and towers and homes. This was also where the richest people lived in the big, biggest, nicest houses. There was a moat circling around it, then another ring of land with more buildings on it. And they were separated by another moat and another ring of land. So you get the idea. But Atlantis isn't famous for its layout, it's famous for being a paradise. The people who lived there were incredibly wise and powerful and they used their powers for good, at least at first.

[Kylie Lowe]

According to Plato, they built this amazing society. It was wealthy, beautiful, and pretty much a utopia. And I wish I could tell you more about some of their achievements, but Plato's story is actually kind of short. He doesn't go into much detail. All Plato says is that eventually the people there became arrogant. They thought that they had life all figured out. And even worse, some of their leaders were dishonest and corrupt. They went to war with less powerful civilizations around them, knowing their Enemies didn't even stand a chance. Before you knew it, the Atlantean people were oppressing and mistreating everyone. And this made the ancient gods incredibly angry. They decided to punish Atlantis by sending what Plato described as one terrible night of fire and earthquakes.

[Yvette Gentile]

If you ask me, that sounds like a poetic description of a volcanic explosion or maybe a really destructive meteor shower.

[Kylie Lowe]

Yeah, I definitely err on the side of it being a volcano. But whatever it was, this natural disaster destroyed Atlantis. The entire continent supposedly sank to the bottom of the ocean and its citizens were never seen or heard from again.

[Yvette Gentile]

Now, a lot of people hear this story and think, okay, it's a work of fiction. I mean, continents are big, to put it mildly. If an entire landmass sank into the sea, I mean, surely someone would have found evidence of it, even back in ancient Greece. So for centuries after Plato's death, his writing spread around. But most people say the story of Atlantis is a myth or an allegory of a power hungry society that collapsed. And nobody has any reason to think otherwise. Not until 1492, when Christopher Columbus becomes the first European to discover there's actually two continents on the other side of the ocean. Continents that no European, African or Asian ever realized were there. Which makes people wonder. Well, okay, wait a second. If there's entire landmasses out there we haven't explored, maybe the story of Atlantis isn't that far fetched after all.

[Kylie Lowe]

Well, I know that talking about Christopher Columbus can be problematic. However, I digress. Anyway, something similar happens in 1870 when a German man named Heinrich Schliemann finds something just as stunning. Heinrich is an amateur archaeologist with no training whatsoever. But he gets word that an acquaintance of his has just purchased some land in Turkey. And there's a big mound on the property, almost like something's buried there. Since Heinrich has a lot of money, the acquaintance lets him start digging, probably for a price. Now, Heinrich, who is pretty new to this whole archaeology thing, basically shows up with little more than a shovel. As he and his team start digging deeper and deeper, he realizes he's found something that will rewrite the planet's history. He's just discovered the ruins of the lost city of of Troy.

[Yvette Gentile]

Up until that year, many people thought Troy was fictional too. And a lot of them had read Homer's Iliad, which tells the story of the Trojan War. And that's the legendary conflict that ended with the Greek army sneaking into the city of Troy in that giant wooden horse. A lot of people assume the city of Troy never existed, and neither did the Trojan War. But when Heinrich comes forward and says, hey, turns out Troy is real and here it is, that gets people thinking. Maybe a lot of the myths that we used to dismiss as fiction are actually based on true stories, including Atlantis.

[Kylie Lowe]

Well, in 1882, just 12 years after Troy is discovered, a guy named Ignatius Donnelly enters the chat. He's a former US Congressman and state legislator, so he's pretty well known and respected at the time. In fact, Ignatius is said to be a champion for equality and fairness. Sounds like my kind of guy. He spends his political career trying to pass laws that make life better for low income, working class people. After he temporarily retires from politics, though, Ignatius picks up a hobby. He wants to learn more about the people of the world, present and past. For months he studies art, language, literature, mythology, religion. The list goes on and on. He's particularly interested in learning about other cultures outside the United States. And certain themes start popping up in his research over and over again.

[Yvette Gentile]

If you've ever tried to learn a foreign language, you might notice how some words are very similar from one to the next. Just take for instance, bonanote, which means good night in Italian. In French, bon nuit means good night and also buenas noches. I mean, these are all very similar but different because they all derive from Latin. Or if you've spent a lot of time studying religions, you might know that certain themes and stories are fairly universal. Well, Ignatius thinks there has to be a reason for all of this. In particular, he figures that these cultures share similarities because they also share a connected past. And once his research is done, Ignatius feels confident enough about his theory to to publish it in a book. It claims that all modern day cultures evolved from one particular ancient civilization, Atlantis. Not only that, but he thinks he knows where the lost city used to be.

[Kylie Lowe]

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[Kylie Lowe]

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[Yvette Gentile]

His argument is basically that the Atlantic Ocean didn't exist when Atlantis was around. Instead, the ancient kingdoms stretched all the way from North America to Europe and Africa. Essentially, the world was all one giant landmass, kind of like how many scientists believe all the continents used to be connected as one called Pangea. Except Ignatius says that Atlantis was in the center of them all. And that's why he thinks Atlantis was the literal middleman for all of these cultures. It traded with its neighbors, exchanging languages, products, art, styles. The list goes on and on.

[Kylie Lowe]

Except Ignatius doesn't think that that's the only thing they were sharing. His theory says that most of the world's belief systems actually stem from Atlantis. So here's an example. Ignatius learns that the Hindu religion includes a group of gods called and bear with me because I'm not sure if I'm saying this right. I did the research, but I'm just going to try. They were called the Aditia. He also knows that some ancient people probably called those who lived in Atlantis the Adits. Ignatius thinks Aditya and Adites sound pretty similar. So those words must mean the same thing in his mind. And perhaps the Adits, the people of Atlantis, are actually this group of Hindu gods. Like maybe the people of India met some Atlanteans and started worshiping them. Then a whole religion grew around them.

[Yvette Gentile]

Ignatius then takes this one step further. He figures this must be true of all the other ancient gods, too. You know, the ones from Greece and Rome and from all the indigenous American religions. Maybe they're all based on the Atlantean people. He also suggests that biblical stories, like the ones about the Garden of Eden are actually about the destruction of Atlantis. Basically, humanity used to live in paradise. Then we lost the utopia forever because we made the gods angry.

[Kylie Lowe]

As for how Atlantis was destroyed, Ignatius thinks a volcano erupted, blasting the continent into pieces. I totally think this, too. Then the waters of the ocean rushed in, drowning the people who used to live there. He also says some survivors hopped on boats and ended up fleeing to Mexico and Ireland. He says that was to ensure Atlantean culture would continue to spread through the Americas and Eurasia. That's also why stories like Noah's Ark and other myths about floods pop up in so many different societies. Because according to Ignatius, those legends are all that remains of the accounts about a real historical event, the destruction of Atlantis.

[Yvette Gentile]

He says not only was the destruction real, it was one of the greatest disasters in all of human history. Ignatius writes that when Atlantis collapsed, the world lost so much technology, culture, and art that it took 6,000 years for humanity to catch up to where they used to be.

[Kylie Lowe]

That might sound like a lot to accept, but as soon as Ignatius publishes his book, it instantly becomes a bestseller. People love his theories about Atlantis and how it shaped the modern world. And they totally believe it, too.

[Yvette Gentile]

Well, some people do. Others think Ignatius ideas are a little too far out there. I mean, Ignatius isn't a scientist. He makes a lot of big claims based on very little evidence and never does the work to test his hypotheses. Take that argument we discussed earlier about how all of the world's religions are based on real Atlantean people who were later worshipped as gods. That's a huge leap for Ignatius to make based on the fact that two words sound kind of similar. And remember how we said he studied different languages, cultures, and religions, looking for similarities between them? Well, he only did that for a few months before publishing his book. I mean, I'm no anthropologist, but that doesn't seem like enough time to really understand every single culture, language, and art style in the world. Let alone analyze them in depth. He also makes some very outdated arguments about race, which I just gotta say, we will not be repeating. Instead, let's just say his theories have not stood the test of time.

[Kylie Lowe]

But even if you don't buy everything Ignatius says, there's one core argument that people cannot let go of. That Atlantis may have actually once been a real place. And even if Ignatius's arguments are a little out there, there's one mystic named Edgar Cayce who still builds on his theories in the 1930s and 40s. Now, Edgar believes he can use psychic abilities to heal sick people by dreaming. Literally dreaming. People with undiagnosed medical problems come to him. They tell him a little bit about their symptoms and what they've tried so far. Then Edgar says he'll sleep on it. He takes a quick power nap, and when he wakes up, he says he can diagnose exactly what is wrong with his patients. Usually he also knows how to treat it, too. A lot of the time, Edgar says that people are feeling sick because of something that happened to them in a past life. He believes in reincarnation and thinks that people can carry guilt and shame and all other kinds of feelings from one existence to the next. And Edgar is all too happy to teach people how to forgive themselves and move past negative emotions.

[Yvette Gentile]

Well, one day in 1938, a young man goes to Edgar asking for help, just like usual. He hears about this man's illness and then lies down. He waits for a psychic dream to reveal what's wrong with him. And sure enough, when Edgar is asleep, he has a vision that tells him why this man is sick. Apparently, in his past life, the guy was a scientist and he was very arrogant. He thought that he was smarter than everyone else, and he acted like a bully. And the guilt from his past life behaviors is what was making him sick. But during that dream, Edgar allegedly gets a glimpse at the science this man was doing. And he wasn't just some chemist experimenting with beakers of liquid. No, he was an electrician. And he was building incredible machines in an era where, as far as anyone knows, electricity hadn't been discovered yet. That's when Edgar realizes this man was an electrical engineer in Atlantis. Most importantly, he sees a lot of information about what Atlantis used to be before its destruction.

[Kylie Lowe]

According to Edgar, Atlantis was near an island in the Bahamas called Bimini. And the people of Atlantis had very advanced technology. And I don't mean advance for 9,000 BCE. He thinks Atlantis has a better understanding of science than even the people of his own time. Edgar says the Atlanteans used chips made of silicon, which is a jaw dropping prediction because we use silicon computer chips today. But that technology did not exist in 1938 at the time of Edgar's vision. He also says that Atlantis has a totally green sustainable energy source. One that can draw electricity from giant crystals. These crystals can also vibrate at just the right frequency, so their sound waves cure diseases. Edgar also says that the Atlanteans invented atomic energy, airplanes, televisions and laser light crystals, which, I mean, that's pretty cool because he's making these claims before anyone in the modern era had invented most of these things. Like, Edgar shouldn't even know about technology like TV or atomic energy. But here he is saying that the people of Atlantis mastered these technologies.

[Yvette Gentile]

Now you've got to think, if this vision is true, there's gotta be a ton of people trying to get their hands on that Atlantean technology. I mean, who wouldn't want clean crystal energy and non invasive cures for disease? Well, Edgar has good news for them. He keeps having more dreams and learning more about Atlantis. Eventually, he says that someday soon people will find ruins of Atlantis and recover some of that ancient technology for themselves. He even predicts exactly when and where this discovery will take place. In either 1968 or 1969, he says Atlantis will be discovered off the shores of Vimeni. And Edgar writes this prophecy down along with a few others. He includes them in a series of books that he writes over the course of his lifetime.

[Kylie Lowe]

So now let's cut to 30 years later. In 1968, a couple of scuba divers are exploring the ocean floor just off the shores of Bimini. They're actually professional archaeologists and they're out there looking for ruins amongst the many shipwrecks that happened off of Bimini shores. But they aren't necessarily searching for the ruins of Atlantis. At least not until they see something that looks like an underwater cobblestone road. It has rectangular blocks of stone laid out in a precise straight line and it appears to be man made. I mean, hello, what are the odds? In the exact year and the exact place that Edgar envisioned, here's this bizarre underwater yellow brick road of sorts.

[Yvette Gentile]

Okay, well, Rascia, it's not really yellow. It's not about the wizard of Oz.

[Kylie Lowe]

Okay, fine.

[Yvette Gentile]

But anyhow, right away, the discovery makes headlines all over the world. It's dubbed Bimini Road. And everyone's speculating that this must have been an Atlantean throwaway that sank with the rest of the city. Even weirder Bimini Road is in the Bermuda Triangle. And I know we touched on this idea briefly in another episode, and I've just gotta say we've read the comments and we know that some of you feel like the Bermuda Triangle is a complete myth. But some people do think Atlantis sank in the Bermuda Triangle, and that's why there's so many eerie disappearances and strange events that still happen there. It makes sense if you've got ancient advanced technology sitting at the bottom of the sea. See, weird things can happen.

[Kylie Lowe]

But the question for now is what can these ruins actually teach us about humanity's past? So a ton of scientists flocked to the Bahamas in the late 1960s and 70s to try and find out just this. Unfortunately, they don't get the answers many were hoping for. They discover the road is made of a very fragile kind of rock. Apparently, when waves hit it in just the right way, it breaks apart into pieces that actually look like cobblestones. In the end, their conclusion is that Bimini Road isn't man made after all. It's a naturally occurring underwater rock formation. And the rocks are only about 2000 to 4000 years old, not 9000 years old like Atlantis. So this Bimini Road discovery is a bust, to put it mildly. But people don't give up on their search for Atlantis that easily.

[Yvette Gentile]

We're going to cover some of the most credible discoveries in a little bit. But first I want to talk about one of my favorite theories. Because of just how out there it is. The gist is that all of our records about Atlantis real location is wrong. Plato had it wrong, Ignatius Donnelly had it wrong, and Edgar Cayce had it wrong. That's why we haven't been able to find any ruins or any evidence that the lost kingdom existed, because we haven't been searching in the right place. As for where it actually is, some say Atlantis is in. And get this, y' all, Antarctica.

[Kylie Lowe]

Okay, now the first time I heard this theory, I thought, this makes absolutely zero sense. Atlantis was supposed to be an ancient paradise, not a frozen, uninhabitable land. But the people who believe in this idea point to one huge piece of evidence that seems to support it. It's called the Piri Rees map. Ashley covered the map at length in her Ancient Aliens episode, which, of course, I highly recommend you check out. It's a wild story, but here's the quick and dirty. In the year 1513, the map was made by a Turkish cartographer named Piri Rees. It showed the entire known world, including Europe, Africa, Asia, and the Americas. Keep in mind this was barely 20 years after Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue. And again, there's a lot to be said about Christopher Columbus, but we're just using this as a reference point because it's something we're all pretty familiar with. Back then, map making technology just wasn't that advanced and most charts from the time were very inaccurate.

[Yvette Gentile]

But the Piri Reis map is an exception. Its depiction of the Eastern Indies and North America's coastline are pretty decent. It seems impossible that someone could nail it like Piri Reis did. But he claims he's just really good at research. He consulted Columbus's personal papers and he also looked at ancient maps when he was drawing the geography around Europe, Asia and Africa and some say ancient Antarctica. Keep in mind Antarctica wasn't actually discovered by Europeans until 1820. That's nearly 300 years after Piri Reis's death. But somehow he knew to include a whole undiscovered continent at the South Pole. And when he adds Antarctica to the map, he depicts it as having no ice, as though it's not a frozen land at all, but an ordinary continent where people can live, farm and not freeze to death. And a lot of people assume he drew it that way because he saw like that in the old records, like maybe centuries or a millennia before Piri Reis's life. Ancient people knew about Antarctica and for them it was a warm, livable paradise, just like Atlantis was.

[Kylie Lowe]

Okay, there's a few reasons why this theory's kind of a stretch in my opinion. First of all, Piri Reis never actually said that Antarctica was Atlantis. That was all speculation from people who saw his map, noticed the lack of ice and threw out some wild possibilities. And outside of the Piri Reis map, there's no evidence linking Atlantis to Antarctica. So yeah, it's a cool story, but not a very credible one. But there is a much more believable story from the year 2018. Because that year, a British archaeology firm drops a bombshell. They release a statement saying they have, quote, concrete proof that Atlantis existed. T Mobile Home Internet is all about speed, speed, value. What you doing, Zach? I'm rehearsing for our T Mobile Home Internet Radio commercial.

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In 2018, an archaeology firm called Merlin Burrows is studying the wetlands in a national park in southern Spain. Now their specialty is in uncovering ancient artifacts. Among other things, they found the tomb of a famous ancient ruler who died in 410 CE and a sunken ship from the 1700s. Their website literally promises they can, and this is a quote, find anything that has been lost, forgotten or hidden with pinpoint accuracy. And the reason they're in Spain is because they just found a huge clue in an ancient text. Unfortunately, they don't publicly say what that ancient text is, but apparently there was some language in there that had them thinking Atlantis must be somewhere in southern Spain. They feel so good about this theory that they hire a team of filmmakers to to record their expedition. And the hope is that if they do find Atlantis, they'll have a record of the historic moment.

[Kylie Lowe]

As part of their research, the employees get satellite photographs of the wetlands. They expect, of course, to see wooded areas, swamps, maybe a few sandy beaches. But the pictures have something completely unexpected. A bunch of perfectly circular lakes. They're not very big, but there are a ton of them. And their layout just does not look natural. They're so symmetrical and striking, they almost look like crop circles. And the team's first thought is that maybe there used to be circular towers standing there, specifically Atlantean towers. The thinking is if those towers collapsed but the foundations were still underground, they could fill with water and turn into tiny round lakes. So to them, this feels like pretty solid evidence that Atlantis used to be in Spain.

[Yvette Gentile]

It's probably no surprise that when Merlin Burroughs releases this information, it's a huge news story. Some people read the coverage and think, okay, great, we have finally found Atlantis. But of course, other people are more skeptical, especially when some online sleuths pull up 20 year old satellite photos of the exact same area and the pools aren't there. In fact, they don't show up until 2004 and 2005. And with a bit of digging, people realize that a team of scientists were already out there researching species of plankton at the time, and they built the pools in the marsh for the plankton to live in. So basically, Merlin Burroughs was correct when they said these structures were man made, but they weren't leftovers from an ancient civilization. They had nothing to do with Atlantis, unfortunately.

[Kylie Lowe]

So I know this story feels incredibly discouraging. Time after time people say they've found the lost kingdom of Atlantis, and time after time it's debunked. But there's still some evidence out there that hasn't been totally written off. So in my opinion, one of the best comes from 2009 and it's also in Spain. That's when a group of American researchers were exploring some marshlands on the Spanish coast, close to a city called Cadiz. Interestingly enough, this wasn't too far from the state park where Merlin Burroughs later found the round lakes. These Marshlands are about 60 miles inland, pretty far from the shore. And the satellites showed that there was something buried under the swamps. It looked like an old ancient city that had been wiped out in a tsunami. Here's the thing though. The researchers didn't think these buried ruins were from Atlantis. Their theory was that Atlantis was somewhere else entirely. But after its destruction, the survivors might have fled to southern Spain and built a new settlement just for that city to be lost in a tsunami. I mean, if that theory is correct, it's incredibly sad. Anyway, the researchers speculate that if they kept searching around the same area, eventually they would find the ruins of an older, grander city, the actual Atlantis. And in 2023, that prediction comes true.

[Yvette Gentile]

This time, a different team of researchers were working on an unrelated project just off the coast of Cadiz. Their study involved several long scuba diving excursions. At one point, they were Wrapping up one of these trips, when their sonar equipment went off, it said there was something beneath them. Unfortunately, they didn't know what their gear was picking up because it was too deep for them to eyeball. And since their oxygen tanks were getting low, it wasn't safe to stick around and investigate. So instead, the researchers decided to come back for a closer look later on. I'm not sure how long it takes, but when they do return, they go to the exact same area where their sonar went off. And that's when they find underwater walls. They're made of stones that have been cut out into perfect squares and triangles, and each corner of the square is exactly 90 degrees. In other words, these things again, look man made, not natural. And these walls are huge. Some are 16ft tall and about a quarter of a mile long. It's actually so much that it takes the researchers years to map everything out. And eventually they decide they may have found the lost kingdom of Atlantis.

[Kylie Lowe]

You'll remember how earlier we said Plato described Atlantis as as being laid out in a series of circles, sort of like a dartboard. Well, the ruins near Cadiz have that exact same pattern. They're a ring within a ring within a ring. And this submerged city is very close to a narrow strait, which reminds me of how Plato said you have to go through a strait to get to Atlantis. The problem is, though, these stones could still be natural. Yes, it's rare for stones to erode into perfect right angles in nature, but it does happen occasionally. And if that's the case, they probably have nothing to do with Atlantis.

[Yvette Gentile]

There's another possibility that's sort of a middle ground, though, one that can explain why we haven't been able to fully confirm the ancient city yet, because maybe Atlantis itself wasn't real, but it was inspired by true events. Some scholars think that Plato based the fictional kingdom of Atlantis on a real island that was nearly destroyed in another horrible disaster. Santorini. It's an island off the shores of Greece. And you might be thinking, oh yeah, I've heard of or even been to Santorini because it is a popular vacation destination. It wasn't destroyed like Atlantis. Well, you're right, but Santorini today is very different from how it was around 1600 BCE. Back then, it was home to a very advanced civilization called the Minoans. But I want to be clear. When I say they were advanced, I don't mean they had magical crystal batteries or that they could cure disease with vibrations. But they were one of the first civilizations in the Mediterranean region, which means.

[Kylie Lowe]

The Minoans were one of the first human cultures ever. They also built huge cities and made beautiful art, like pottery and massive frescoes. And in the year 1600 BCE, a huge volcano in the center of Santorini erupted. And right afterward, the Minoan civilization just disappeared. As in, they stopped building cities and making art. They just vanished from the archaeological record. And when you look at their trading partners and allies, there's no mention of them doing any business or making treaties after that year. It's like this whole civilization just disappears in an instant.

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Now, the blast didn't actually destroy the island, like what happened to Atlantis, but the eruption was so huge, it completely changed the island's geology. It used to be a small island surrounded by a ring of land, just like how Plato described Atlantis. But now half of the ring is gone and the center of the island is a tiny little dot. Everything else got blown to pieces. Geologists are still studying all of the sediment and rubble today to try and understand the extent of this blast. But there's one thing that they are absolutely sure about. It was massive. And a thousand or so years after the disaster, Plato may have heard about a volcano destroying an advanced civilization. Then he might have used the Minoan people as an inspiration for his fictional Atlantis.

[Kylie Lowe]

Some historians also think that Plato was using the story of Atlantis to basically comment on current events and politics from his time. It's about how life was good when the Atlanteans had a fair society. Once they became greedy, corrupt and arrogant, their world came crumbling down, literally. In other words, the story of Atlantis may have been Plato's way of telling the ancient Greeks of the time, you better be kind, or this is what will happen to you.

[Yvette Gentile]

I totally agree with you, Russia, but I also do think there's more to the story of Atlantis than that, because it's also a legend about a lost paradise. And if human beings used to be capable of these incredible feats, like building these flying machines, lasers and sustainable energy, that means we are capable of even more with technology and resources we have at our disposal today. In a way, the story of Atlantis is about hope. Not just in the hopes of finding it one day, but in the hopes that we can learn from the mistakes, mistakes of the past, legend or otherwise, and build a world that is better for all of us.

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