So Supernatural – HAUNTED: Surrey Ghost Car with And That's Why We Drink (Oct 31, 2025)
Overview
In this special Halloween episode, So Supernatural hosts Yvette Gentile and Racha Pecorero join forces with Em Schulz and Christine Schiefer from the paranormal-comedy podcast And That's Why We Drink. The episode explores some of the most chilling and baffling cases of ghostly vehicles, haunted passengers, and mysterious “residual energy” phenomena from around the world.
The conversation blends true crime, supernatural lore, personal experiences, and philosophical musings on whether these hauntings are glimpses of past tragedies, echoes in time, or something even more mysterious. Together, the quartet discusses famous and obscure cases—haunted roads, vanishing hitchhikers, and phantom trains—while sharing memorable stories and insights about our fascination with the unexplained.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Concept of Residual Hauntings and Ghost Vehicles
- Ashley Flowers (02:08): Introduces the idea that ghosts might be snapshots of intense moments, “trapped in stasis, like a snapshot of a moment that’s already passed.”
- The group explores whether hauntings are echoes of traumatic events that replay until “found” or resolved.
2. The Surrey Ghost Car Case (UK, 2002)
- Story Presented by Yvette & Racha
- Multiple people in Surrey, England, witnessed a maroon car veering off the A3 highway and crashing into a ditch on December 11, 2002.
- Police found no evidence at first, but after a second search, they uncovered an overgrown, badly rusted car and the skeletal remains of Christopher Chandler, missing since July.
- Racha: "Would anyone have even found Christopher if all those people hadn’t reported seeing his exact car... months after the accident happened? Had the universe somehow reenacted the accident?" [15:11]
- The incident prompts discussion about hauntings as cries for help or cosmic echoes.
- Christine: “It sucks then, because afterward you feel like, oh, well, now it looks like it was just a ghost... But you witnessed a car crash.” [09:08]
3. Personal Paranormal Experiences
- Christine Schiefer's Creepy Police Car Encounter [19:28–22:44]
- As a teen, Christine felt dread pulling up next to a police car at a stoplight. Looking over, she saw the officer had “no nose... just skin,” and an unnaturally wide smile. The car vanished soon after.
- Christine: "My whole stomach bottomed out. I was petrified. I still remember to this day." [20:53]
- The group reflects on why such experiences linger and the brain’s need to rationalize the unexplainable.
4. Ghostly Trains and Time-Loop Tragedies
- Yvette recounts the ghost of the 1891 Boston Bridge train disaster in North Carolina—witnessed as a recurring apparition on the tragedy’s anniversary (24:42–27:41).
- In 2010, a real-life ghost hunter was killed investigating the site, mistaking an actual train for the legendary one.
- Christine: "With paranormal investigating, you think, oh, it's a harmless hobby... But there are actually real life dangers too.” [30:27]
5. Supernatural Rituals and Safety
- The guests discuss ghost hunting safety and personal rituals—Em relies on boundaries (“do not follow me home!”) and calls on family witchcraft for protection, while Yvette and Racha honor their Hawaiian upbringing by always asking for protection before engaging with the supernatural (33:04–35:11).
6. Phantom Passengers Around the World
a) Japan’s “Yurei” Spirits After the 2011 Tsunami [38:19–45:00]
- After the Tohoku earthquake and tsunami, taxi drivers reported picking up passengers who vanished en route—often people later found to match descriptions of deceased victims.
- Notable story:
- Cabbie picked up a woman who, when informed her destination was destroyed, asked “Am I dead?” before vanishing [43:37].
- Christine: "My hope... is that when she had that realization, ‘am I dead’, that maybe she was able to move on.” [44:21]
- These stories parallel similar legends worldwide, pointing to cultural universality in ghostly encounters after mass tragedy.
b) The Vanishing Hitchhiker [46:18–48:27]
- Arkansas folkloric tale: Driver picks up a rain-soaked woman, brings her home, only to learn she died in a car crash years before. His missing jacket is found draped over her tombstone.
7. Haunted Roads and Weird Locales
a) Clinton Road, New Jersey [60:08–66:41]
- Reputed as "one of the most haunted roads in the United States"—with stories of phantom trucks, strange weather, ghostly rangers, witches, and a notorious coin-tossing ghost of Dead Man’s Curve.
- Yvette: “The whole 10-mile stretch is full of weird supernatural energy... People notice a black pickup trailing close behind, and then it just disappears.” [65:03]
- Encounters involve seemingly physical interactions (like returned coins), evolving the usual "ghost sighting" trope.
b) The A75 Hauntings (Scotland) [67:52–71:49]
- Truckers repeatedly witness spectral animals and people, even feel their vehicles shake, as sightings intensify along this four-mile stretch, prompting some to quit their profession out of fear.
8. Urban Legends & Local Paranormal Lore
- Em and the Bunnyman Bridge (Virginia) [53:59–58:29]
- Local cryptid story about a man in a stitched rabbit suit haunting a secluded bridge; rituals of driving under it at midnight for a supposed sighting.
9. Philosophical Musings: Are Hauntings Time Loops?
- Yvette introduces Nietzsche’s “eternal recurrence” [73:01]—the idea that time and events repeat infinitely. Are ghosts a glimpse of this recurring timeline, or a blip in the “space-time continuum”?
- Em: “I think a lot of times our ghosts are our future selves looking out for us... when you get a gut feeling, it’s yourself being like, get out of here. I know what’s coming.” [74:06]
- Christine references time as an illusion and the possibility of “crossovers of timelines” as a paranormal explanation [74:55].
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- Ashley Flowers:
- "Is a haunting just a moment that happened once upon a time, replaying over and over again until it finds a way to escape?" [02:26]
- Christine Schiefer:
- "I take it as now, like a badge of honor. But I don’t think my mother really appreciates that." (On being named after Stephen King’s Christine) [06:56]
- EM Schulz:
- “If you drive under the Bunnyman Bridge at exactly midnight on Halloween... look out the rear view window, you’d see the Bunnyman standing there and shadows of bunnies hanging over the overpass.” [56:08]
- Yvette:
- “Is there a time loop that is repetitively on play at that exact certain time and moment?” [72:53]
- Racha:
- “What kind of world are we living in if there are no more questions left for us to answer? The supernatural... is what keeps all of us going. Right?” [75:35]
- Christine:
- “Freaking loosely. That is why we drink. Amen. I mean, mic drop.” [76:28]
Important Timestamps
- 02:08 | Ashley Flowers introduces “residual energy” theory of hauntings
- 07:37 | The Surrey ghost car setup
- 10:47 | Police discover the rusted car and skeleton
- 19:28 | Christine’s personal ghost-car encounter
- 24:42 | The Ghost Train legend and its modern tragedy
- 38:19 | Japanese ghost passengers and 2011 tsunami stories
- 46:18 | The American vanishing hitchhiker legend
- 53:59 | Bunnyman Bridge urban legend (Virginia)
- 60:08 | Clinton Road (NJ) and its haunted history
- 67:52 | Scotland’s haunted A75: vanishing animals/people
- 73:01 | Discussion of Nietzsche’s “eternal recurrence” and time loops
Tone & Style
The tone throughout is conversational, playful, and respectful—balancing humor (especially between Em and Christine) with sensitivity toward trauma and loss. The hosts uniformly stress a sense of wonder toward the unexplained and close with reflections on the value of curiosity and not always having the answers.
For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In
This episode is a deep, lively, and spooky exploration of the world’s most mysterious ghost vehicle and recurring haunting cases. Expect not just chilling stories but also camaraderie, warmth, and curiosity among the hosts—leaving listeners with more questions than answers, and a healthy respect for the world’s enduring mysteries.
Listen to more from Racha and Yvette on So Supernatural, and find Em and Christine on And That's Why We Drink.