Laura Peek Returns

Summary

Podcast Summary: So True with Caleb Hearon – "Laura Peek Returns" (November 6, 2025)

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Overview

In this episode, beloved comedian Caleb Hearon welcomes back stand-up comic Laura Peek for a hilarious and thoughtful conversation that ranges from generational rifts in comedy references, aging and joy, to the burden of shame, finding meaning, and maintaining perspective on social and political absurdity in America. The conversation is classic “So True”: unfiltered, vulnerable, and deeply funny.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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Aging, Comedy, and Generational Disconnect

• Aging in Comedy Spaces

  • Laura describes performing standup for very young audiences who don't get her William Shatner material, feeling both "not having fun in there" and bemused about the generational gap.
    • [02:21] Laura: "I'm midway through that joke and I go, these people don't know who William Shatner. No, the blank little hot faces, like looking..."
    • Caleb: "These 22 year olds... No idea. Trying to understand."

• Anecdote: William Shatner on a Plane

  • Laura shares a vivid story about seeing William Shatner accidentally drop a suitcase on a woman's already injured arm, his awkward apology, and the mutual discomfort and judgment felt throughout the plane.
    • [04:21] Laura: "He goes, that painful, huh? And I went, yeah, I think so..."

• On Aging Filters and TikTok Trends

  • Discussion on TikTok’s youth trends and how appearance/anonymity on the internet and aging filters fuel anxiety and empathy for younger internet users:
    • [09:39] Laura: "...it's them doing the, like, aged filter. And then being like, what people thought I'd look like at 35. [...] I'm like, hey, girl. He's like, we got a caucus about this."

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The Passage of Time & Regret

• Viral Regret and End-of-Life Reflections

  • Caleb and Laura riff on viral nursing TikToks about women’s regrets in marriages and missed opportunities, blending empathy with humor and existential dread.
    • [07:18] Caleb: "...It was a nurse being like, you have no idea how many old women in marriages with men are [...] like, I can't believe I didn’t, like, leave this man or do the things I wanted to do..."

• Dealing with Fleeting Joy & Enduring Shame

  • Both hosts unpack the challenge of enjoying happiness, with Laura feeling undeserving due to ingrained shame (possibly from Catholic upbringing), while Caleb notes happiness is a fleeting feeling, not a permanent state.
    • [26:02] Caleb: "Happy is not a type of person. Happy is a feeling that you can experience..."
    • [28:06] Laura: "When I do experience true happiness and joy, it's impossible for me to think about it as anything other than like, momentary and that I don't deserve it."

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Mental Health, Identity, and Self-Perception

• Self-Image Tied to External Feedback

  • Laura reflects on how self-worth fluctuates based on the last thing she heard about herself, oscillating from "I'm a fat" to "I'm a great friend" in response to comments.
    • [16:19] Laura: "I am realizing that my image of myself, my perception of myself is based on the last thing I heard about myself..."

• Shame & Guilt – Nature or Nurture?

  • A discussion on whether deep-rooted guilt comes from upbringing, religion, or culture. Laura identifies with Catholic guilt despite a non-dogmatic household.
    • [28:36] Laura: "Did you grow up Catholic?...It literally has to be."

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Joy, Meaning, and the Fleeting Nature of Fame

• Finding Liberation in Impermanence

  • The hosts find solace in the notion that, eventually, everyone's fame and status will be forgotten—nothing lasts forever.
    • [37:56] Caleb: "After enough time, nobody is going to remember what any of us did. [...] The only thing that will have mattered is that whether or not we had a nice time and were nice to each other."

• Mocking Social Power Structures

  • Caleb draws a parallel between comedy’s "scene kings" and local small-town power figures, highlighting the universal silliness in all forms of manufactured status.
    • [39:30] Caleb: "Sometimes when I think about, like, the kings of little fiefdoms near where I grew up, like, the guy who's like chair of the school board [...] this doesn't matter."

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Existential Humor & Nourishment

• Breakfast Struggles, Small Joys, Generosity

  • Caleb and Laura recount misadventures seeking the perfect breakfast, including a disastrous protein cereal and a soulful Brooklyn café. Caleb shares a moving story of a restaurant owner who toasts being alive with the entire restaurant:
    • [50:00] Caleb: "'These shots are on me tonight for no other reason than we're celebrating friendship and being alive. What a gift it is to be on this earth at the same time. Raise your glasses.' And then every...the whole restaurant does a shot together..."

• Presence & Perspective

  • The story inspires the hosts to recommit to presence and gratitude, even as they admit they'll revert when minor annoyances return.
    • [50:56] Caleb: "And I won't be taking it for granted ever."
    • [50:57] Laura: "And I'm going to be present in the present. Cuz until later today when somebody minorly inconveniences me..."

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Politics, America, and Free Speech

• Absurdity of American Politics

  • Laura observes how America’s chaotic diversity makes free speech vital; without it, "the circus" of US life loses meaning.
    • [60:19] Laura: "America as a country does not make any sense without free speech. Like, it's too weird a place to not be able..."

• Media Outrage and Hopelessness

  • Frustration at right-wing media's inflammatory rhetoric, the seeming routine-ness of outrageous statements, and fears over voting rights.
    • [61:46] Caleb: "[She] was on the news like last night [...] being like, the Democrats main constituents are Hamas terrorists. And it's like, that is a fucking crazy thing to say about most of the country."

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Game Segment: True or False Blitz

• Caleb quizzes Laura in a "true or false" lightning round (starting at [68:31]), with a blend of real and absurd trivia, providing banter and comic relief.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

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On Aging, Regret, and Social Media

• [06:36] Caleb: "What the fuck? Why would you say some shit like that?"
• [06:46] Laura: "Had fun. Like, lie to us. You have a responsibility to lie to us."

On Happiness and Self-Acceptance

• [26:02] Caleb: "Happy is not a type of person. Happy is a feeling that you can experience."
• [28:06] Laura: "When I do experience true happiness and joy, it's impossible for me to think about it as anything other than, like, momentary and that I don't deserve it."

On Impermanence

• [37:56] Caleb: "After enough time, nobody is going to remember what any of us did. [...] The only thing that will have mattered is that whether or not we had a nice time and were nice to each other..."

On Collective Joy

• [50:00] Caleb: "'These shots are on me tonight for no other reason than we're celebrating friendship and being alive. What a gift it is to be on this earth at the same time.' And then the whole restaurant does a shot together."

On American Absurdity

• [60:19] Laura: "America as a country does not make any sense without free speech."

On Right-Wing Outrage

• [61:46] Caleb: "[She] was on the news like last night [...] being like, the Democrats main constituents are Hamas terrorists. And it's like, that is a fucking crazy thing to say about most of the country."

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Important Timestamps

• [02:20] Laura’s William Shatner plane story
• [06:32] On viral TikTok trends about aging and regret
• [16:19] Laura on her self-image shifting with external opinions
• [26:02] Defining happiness as a feeling, not an identity
• [37:56] Conversation on impermanence and finding peace in it
• [50:00] Caleb’s soulful Brooklyn restaurant story about community and gratitude
• [60:19] Laura on the necessity of free speech in America
• [68:31] True or false lightning round game

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Tone

The conversation is warm, sharply funny, often self-deprecating, and refreshingly honest. Both comedians riff on existential themes with wit and tenderness, making space for both laughter and real talk about the challenges of being alive—and the fleeting, joyous moments that make it all worthwhile.

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Takeaways

• Joy is fleeting—but real and worth seeking out, especially in connection with others.
• Shame and guilt—often inherited—shape self-perception, but can be challenged.
• Fame, status, and societal power are ultimately silly in the grand scheme.
• Cultivating presence and celebrating the absurdity and beauty of being alive is vital.
• Freedom to react, laugh, and speak one’s mind is foundational to the American experiment.

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Find Laura Peek at Instagram @laurapeeklive and laurapeekcomedy.com. Caleb thanks her as "one of our greatest living standups."

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End of summary.

Transcript

[Chris D'Elia]

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[Laura Peak]

You're getting on in years.

[Chris D'Elia]

You're getting on in years to be doing basement rooms in New York.

[Laura Peak]

I'm not having fun in there and they weren't having fun with me.

[Chris D'Elia]

What? What happened? Well, I wrote.

[Laura Peak]

I wrote a joke. I have like a closer. I don't think I was doing it on the road, but I have a. I have a closer that features very heavily. Oh, my God. The guy who played Captain Kirk. What's his name? Jesus Christ.

[Chris D'Elia]

William Shatner.

[Laura Peak]

William Shatner. It was on the way. The story I told at your point pod, your live pod about seeing him on a plane.

[Chris D'Elia]

Oh, yes.

[Laura Peak]

And he hit that woman and almost killed her.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yes.

[Laura Peak]

And so I've turned it. He. She really almost died.

[Chris D'Elia]

And.

[Laura Peak]

And so I have like a new joke about it and I've been closing on it. It's really fun story. I'm midway through that joke and I go, these people don't know who William Shatter. No, the blank little like hot faces, like looking.

[Chris D'Elia]

These 22 year olds.

[Laura Peak]

Biggest eyelashes you've ever seen on are.

[Chris D'Elia]

Out to sea right now.

[Laura Peak]

No idea.

[Chris D'Elia]

Trying to understand.

[Laura Peak]

And you try to try to place him. You're like Captain Kirk. I mean, I don't know any sort of reference that would have been effective for them to understand.

[Chris D'Elia]

No, but that warms my heart that they don't know who he is.

[Laura Peak]

It's really cute.

[Chris D'Elia]

That's nice.

[Laura Peak]

Really cute.

[Chris D'Elia]

It's also like, good, let's get some of these people out of the consciousness.

[Laura Peak]

Yes, it's true. He's, he's, he's ready to be. Well, the thing I didn't say when we were hanging out because it's too sad is that he like, he. There was a woman wearing a giant cast and he reached up and gets his overhead luggage and he just like. There was like plenty of time for me to be like, someone's gonna give this old man a hand, right? Like someone's gonna like help him get it down. And he just lets this sucker rip, like from the front. Just pulls it like this. First of all, very old looking luggage. Like a bunch of like tags and shit on it where he's like, you're William Shatner also. Why aren't you on this Delta flight with me? Whatever. But he just lets it rip and it falls like, right on, woman. She had one of these big ass things on it, like connected, you know what I mean? One of those joints like, like.

[Chris D'Elia]

Not the cartoon cast. Literally, literally don't even do them like that anymore.

[Laura Peak]

An anvil dropped by a wiley coyote and it hit her on the shoulder and there was like a sound, like literally like I heard like a crack. And her eyes were so full of tears. Oh. And it was really devastating. And she like turned to me like pleading, like. And I went, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Are you okay? I was like, how can I help? And he does the right thing initially. He goes like. He goes, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Like, okay, good, normal thing to do. And then she didn't immediately hit him with like a hey, no worries. Because she was like, yes. He just re. Shattered her arm.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And he goes, that painful, huh? And I went, yeah, I think so. Like, I'm coming to her to.

[Chris D'Elia]

I love that, I love that.

[Laura Peak]

Not painful, huh? I can't even give me a damn.

[Chris D'Elia]

Damn. I didn't know you were built so soft.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, some on the Delta flight.

[Chris D'Elia]

Get a load of this pansy. Sheesh.

[Laura Peak]

It was so brutal. And everybody. I felt everybody on the plane at the same time be like, oh, this guy's a dick.

[Chris D'Elia]

Like, yeah.

[Laura Peak]

Everybody was so shocked. Oh, my God. It was crazy.

[Chris D'Elia]

Dude, that is so funn.

[Laura Peak]

But I can't say that on stage because people get really sad.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah, it's sad.

[Laura Peak]

They're like, I don't want to think of him like that.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah, I. There's a, There's a. I recently had one of my. I do. I would say, like, once a week, I get on to TikTok, right? And do a scroll and, like, actually watch the videos. And I feel better than most people alive because I only do it once a week. I do. You are enlightened in a way that's, like, bordering on narcissistic. Like, I feel when people tell me how often they're on TikTok, I literally am like, you know, I feel so that painful, huh? But when I'm on there, it manages to serve me some of the most devastating content I've ever seen in my life. And one of the things that served me right now is this trend. I can't remember what song it's to.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, no, but it's.

[Chris D'Elia]

But it's people being like, how fast 50 years went. And it's a picture. Oh, I'm gonna throw up. It's a picture them when they're like, 22, 23, and then a picture of them now, and they. They look beautiful. It's a. It's a beautiful thing that's happening.

[Laura Peak]

Life has happened.

[Chris D'Elia]

But just the idea that I am at one moment staring of a. At a picture of them like that, and then the next at a picture of them like this. And they're. And they're. And oftentimes the captions are even more devastating. Like, the captions are like, I have no idea where the time went.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, God.

[Chris D'Elia]

What the fuck? Why would you say some shit like that?

[Laura Peak]

Lie to me.

[Chris D'Elia]

Every minute accounted for.

[Laura Peak]

I, I, I remember every single second move slow.

[Chris D'Elia]

Had fun. Like, lie to us. You have a responsibility to lie to us.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, that's brutal. I get a lot of these women in their, like, 60s being like, I'm 34, and I'm like, it's them going, I didn't figure it out until 45. And I feel the same way. I'm like, shut the up.

[Chris D'Elia]

Shut up.

[Laura Peak]

Tell me it's going to happen tomorrow, bitch.

[Chris D'Elia]

Shut up. You shut up. I get, I get. I've gotten served recently a couple of different. Like, like, the video is somewhat compelling. And then the comment sections are one of those ones where everyone has an example.

[Laura Peak]

Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

And it was nurses being like. It was a nurse being like, you have no idea how many old women in marriages to men are on. Are sick, are sicker than they realize. And then when they realize, they say, he was supposed to die before me. I had plans that they're like, they're like, I can't believe I didn't, like, leave this man or do the things I wanted to do. And there's nurses in the being like, had the same thing. Had the same thing.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, my God.

[Chris D'Elia]

She thought that she would live longer and she was finally going to travel.

[Laura Peak]

I was going to go to Copenhagen.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yo, what the fuck?

[Laura Peak]

So devastating.

[Chris D'Elia]

Old people, we really need to start monitoring the kind of shit they say.

[Laura Peak]

I need to. I need to approve. I need to approve what goes on.

[Chris D'Elia]

I don't care if it's homophobic, sexist, fat phobic. Say whatever you want in those regards. But when it comes to, like, harrowing tales of the passage of time, of.

[Laura Peak]

Life having been not lived to its.

[Chris D'Elia]

Fullest, go ahead and shut it up for me, Cheryl.

[Laura Peak]

I don't need to hear about that.

[Chris D'Elia]

Do the Helen Keller and talk with your hips.

[Laura Peak]

Hit me with the wawa, Cheryl.

[Chris D'Elia]

Hit me with the wawa, baby. You can't be talking like that with.

[Laura Peak]

Me if the Helen Keller is crazy.

[Chris D'Elia]

You remember that song, the Helen Keller and talk with your hips. Don't be talking to me about the passage of time on my Internet and. And regrets held close.

[Laura Peak]

There was one that I saw just. Just like yesterday. And you're right, you are better than. Because I'll get on. I mean, days of my life spent just. Maybe the next one will be good, you know, just horrific. But there was one that I saw, and it was like a young man, young, hot British guy asking, like, older women what their regrets were. And it was the first one. She's like, I wouldn't have gotten married so young. And I'm like, for sure? Yeah. You needed time to figure out your life. By the fifth one saying that exact thing, I was like, okay, move on.

[Chris D'Elia]

Give me a break.

[Laura Peak]

We get it.

[Chris D'Elia]

That is so funny.

[Laura Peak]

It's wild.

[Chris D'Elia]

Oh, my God.

[Laura Peak]

Have you seen what's. What's blowing my mind? I was thinking about this yesterday on TikTok is like, people that Are, like, my age. Like, mid, early. Mid 30s. Early, please.

[Chris D'Elia]

Early, please.

[Laura Peak]

Early if you're. Early if you're nasty. But it's them doing the, like, aged filter.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And then being, like, what people thought I'd look like at 35. And then they do that horrible sound, and then they take the filter off and they look like, you know, definitely more. Yeah, but.

[Chris D'Elia]

But not 50, so.

[Laura Peak]

Exactly. And it's people being. It's. It's. Every single comment is people being like, you're supposed to take the filter off. Queen, like, being so, so mean. And I'm like. It's always, like, young women doing it. I'm like, hey, girl. He's like, we got a caucus about this.

[Chris D'Elia]

This is so cruel. Not working. Now I feel bad because that has happened to me for so long now just by being a person on the Internet. Yeah, I get it. Like, I got it when I first started videos on the Internet, not even doing, like, I wasn't doing, like. Bet you didn't think I look this good. Like, I wasn't doing, like, age reveal challenges. I was doing, like, jokes.

[Laura Peak]

Yes. I was being a comedian.

[Chris D'Elia]

So I feel bad for these, like, pedestrians that are like, oh, I'm about to. Like, I'm about to serve with this one. And then they get ripped to goddamn shreds. I'm like, you haven't trained.

[Laura Peak]

You got it. You gotta exercise.

[Chris D'Elia]

It's like you're on Everest and your Sherpa just died. Like, you have no clue. The storm that's coming for you. It's really scary.

[Laura Peak]

Froze.

[Chris D'Elia]

He froze. And now what?

[Laura Peak]

Now what? What are you gonna do? You're not making it out of here, dude.

[Chris D'Elia]

They find people up there. People falling out up there.

[Laura Peak]

There's a lot of talk about this recently.

[Chris D'Elia]

Really?

[Laura Peak]

People getting, like, stranded on and being like, I paid. Because I forget that you pay a lot of money to do that.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah. Because it's foolish.

[Laura Peak]

Because it's so stupid. And you don't belong up there, and no one does. Yeah, but it's people being like, I'm about to freeze to death and I paid $70,000 to do this or whatever.

[Chris D'Elia]

And you've played the fool.

[Laura Peak]

And you. And you. And you're wearing a little dunce. Put your little dunce. You're a dunce. God, you're a damn dunce.

[Chris D'Elia]

Not for nothing, but, like, they're. They, like, hire these locals to go on suicide missions for them for their vacation.

[Laura Peak]

1,000%.

[Chris D'Elia]

They're like, oh, yeah, this old Nepalese man is gonna Risk his life for this 270th time to take me up there for.

[Laura Peak]

For Jenny.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah. It's like, you didn't need to go.

[Laura Peak]

Up there for Jenny, who's having a little bit of a midlife crisis.

[Chris D'Elia]

What cracks me up is there's so many places we're just so clearly not supposed to go, and the evidence is in how hard it is to get there.

[Laura Peak]

Deep ocean, highest peaks, sky, sky. Big sky. So stupid.

[Chris D'Elia]

Anyone. Anyone who gets on a plane if something happens to us. Wait.

[Laura Peak]

I'm sorry.

[Chris D'Elia]

I wasn't going to go. We asked for it. We're not supposed to be up there.

[Laura Peak]

I wasn't going to go. Just fly.

[Chris D'Elia]

Flying is crazy, Laura. We're not supposed to be up there.

[Laura Peak]

Caleb's like, do you. I have no sympathy for anyone who's ever died in a plane crash.

[Chris D'Elia]

On a certain level. Like, we keep going places we're not supposed to go.

[Laura Peak]

I know.

[Chris D'Elia]

Submersible. Why'd you go down there?

[Laura Peak]

Oh. I mean. And. Okay. The unity that our country had for 20 seconds after that happened was really beautiful.

[Chris D'Elia]

You're. You're truly meeting God and doing one of these in his face.

[Laura Peak]

You're jacking off in God's visage.

[Chris D'Elia]

You get it? Truly. You get what you deserve down there.

[Laura Peak]

Do you feel. Do you feel unnatural? Every time you're in the sky, you're. Because you're a sky boy.

[Chris D'Elia]

I don't think about it anymore.

[Laura Peak]

Yeah.

[Chris D'Elia]

But the first 100 times I've flu. Of course.

[Laura Peak]

Yeah.

[Chris D'Elia]

I'm grabbing the seat like this. Yeah. I'm getting arthritic knuckles. I'm grabbing that for dear life.

[Laura Peak]

I'm telling people next to me that I love them.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

I'm saying. So I'm confessing my sins.

[Chris D'Elia]

And I was. I was flying as, like a fat teenager with no money. So I was flying most basic economy, middle seat, right? And just business. Business people rolling their eyes and sighing when I sidled up. Terrified.

[Laura Peak]

Hey, if they're so business, get into business class.

[Chris D'Elia]

I'm saying, get a better job.

[Laura Peak]

Sorry.

[Chris D'Elia]

Because I'm fat. I'm young and I'm sc.

[Laura Peak]

And I'm in the middle.

[Chris D'Elia]

I'm taking up both armrests and I might puke.

[Laura Peak]

I'm falling asleep. I'm going to drool.

[Chris D'Elia]

Do you have a fucking question?

[Laura Peak]

Do you have something you wanted to say to me?

[Chris D'Elia]

I'm young, fat.

[Laura Peak]

Did you have to sleep? Did you have something you wanted to say?

[Chris D'Elia]

Wake up.

[Laura Peak]

I can feel your energy.

[Chris D'Elia]

Say something to me.

[Laura Peak]

Wake up and Say something.

[Chris D'Elia]

Wake up and say something to me. Say something. I'm giving up on you. Oh, God. Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

I don't. I. Something happened and maybe it's just frequency of flying, but something happened to me where I've been experiencing like real turbulence lately. In my life? No. In the sky. And I will go. I just. It doesn't. Nothing happens to me.

[Chris D'Elia]

Horror.

[Laura Peak]

Am I suicidal?

[Chris D'Elia]

No. Well, okay, we'll talk about that. But passive suicidal ideation is real. We'll talk. But I have to tell you, I was just telling these guys earlier. I there. I did find a TikTok on my weekly scroll the other day.

[Laura Peak]

Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

That has like. I've decided it's going to fundamentally inform the way I live my life.

[Laura Peak]

Okay.

[Chris D'Elia]

And I love when I find one of these. It's this guy walking down the street and he goes, I really can't stop thinking about it. He goes, man, the older I get, the more I realize.

[Laura Peak]

I'm joining whatever church he's running. I love that. Because of that. Pastor, hello.

[Chris D'Elia]

It really is like that. That is. I'm literally. Every day I'm getting closer and I feel like that's actually nirvana.

[Laura Peak]

That's it. So true. It's like you don't. I keep thinking, I keep waiting for like wisdom to come to me.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And I don't think it's that. I think you fucking care less.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

I think you just start to care.

[Chris D'Elia]

You literally have to go, well, what am I going to do?

[Laura Peak]

Who knows?

[Chris D'Elia]

I'm going to worry. Shit. It's the same. Every, every religion has some maxim for this. I'm choosing pish.

[Laura Peak]

But you can't slow it down like that.

[Chris D'Elia]

I'm just, I'm choosing that. But in Christianity, it's like God's ways are higher. It's like, yeah. Everyone has some statement that's like it.

[Laura Peak]

Yes. Give it up to God. Can't be worried at God's feet.

[Chris D'Elia]

I'm sure other religions have one too, but I'm not worried about that or knowing that. So I'm just gonna stick with Christianity and this. Tick tock. Yeah. Tell me it's not the church.

[Laura Peak]

I mean. Yeah, I think that's. I'm learning that so much too.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

It literally.

[Chris D'Elia]

It literally.

[Laura Peak]

I know, it's. It's very liberating.

[Chris D'Elia]

How you doing?

[Laura Peak]

Not good.

[Chris D'Elia]

Are you not.

[Laura Peak]

No, I'm fine. I. I am, I am. I was thinking about this this morning. I was trying to write it down, but I'm like, I'm waiting. Okay, here's what I was thinking today, I'm waiting for some sort of wisdom to come to me. Like I said.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

I. I am realizing that my image of myself, my perception of myself is based on the last thing I heard about myself.

[Chris D'Elia]

Okay.

[Laura Peak]

At 34.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

It's based on, like, you're a fat. You're like, I'm a fat. And it lasts for, like, hours until. Until one of my friends is like, you're a good friend. I'm like, I'm a great friend.

[Chris D'Elia]

I just beat the fat allegations. I've moved into great friend. Yep. And in that moment, I shed the weight. Wait, you know. Do you know what I was talking to a friend about the other day? It's so much more insane to say the. When it comes to weight loss, the way she lost the weight. The weight. Like, the weight is so like, whoa.

[Laura Peak]

That's like. That's boomer, Mom.

[Chris D'Elia]

That's so.

[Laura Peak]

That's so like, all the way she.

[Chris D'Elia]

Lost £100 is different than she lost that weight.

[Laura Peak]

She lost some weight. She lost the weight.

[Chris D'Elia]

Are you going to keep off the weight, though?

[Laura Peak]

Like, it's the weight we all know about. It's the only weight I've ever thought.

[Chris D'Elia]

Capital W. Yeah. We've all carried it for you in many ways. The weight is so funny side. So hard.

[Laura Peak]

We've all carried it for you. By the way, I've been shouldering the weight of yours, and it.

[Chris D'Elia]

That. That transfers to other things as well. Like if. If you're like. You're like, oh, she's, you know, she's. She's. She's out there fighting with her husband. She's out there fighting with the husband.

[Laura Peak]

Ooh. The. This is.

[Chris D'Elia]

The really changes things.

[Laura Peak]

It does. This is. This is reading very Southern to me.

[Chris D'Elia]

You know what I mean?

[Laura Peak]

Yeah. She's out there with her husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she's. She's been. She's been having some of the drinks.

[Chris D'Elia]

The drink? Yes, the drink.

[Laura Peak]

She's been smoking the pot.

[Chris D'Elia]

She's been. She's on that stuff. The stuff. The. Really transformed.

[Laura Peak]

It does. Because it may, like, makes it like a proper noun. Yeah, it's like. It's making it singular.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

In that you've never thought about it in any other context than this.

[Chris D'Elia]

There's no other weight. There's no other husband.

[Laura Peak]

I don't have a corporeal form.

[Chris D'Elia]

No, you have the way. You have the problem. This doesn't just have diabetes. She's got the diabetes.

[Laura Peak]

Okay. The diabetes hits.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

That's great. She's got the Beatty.

[Chris D'Elia]

She's got the Beatties, the war and Beatty. God. Dude. I'm sorry, you were saying you're waiting for wisdom now?

[Laura Peak]

Oh, yeah, I'm waiting for wisdom. That's not coming. I'm just generally, I'm going to have to either get much more medicated than I am.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

Or just passively accept that it's. It's not good.

[Chris D'Elia]

You seem so good.

[Laura Peak]

I know, I know. Well, that's the thing is that I'm. I. I do feel like most people who are ill able to present and. And the only thing that brings me joy is this.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

So it's like I have no inner life, but, sorry, everyone, I have nothing. There's nothing going on up here. It's hellish up here.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

But people are my favorite thing in the world. Yeah. I really do love other people.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And so what brings me any amount of joy is bringing joy to others and having joy brought to me by.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah. Participating in joy.

[Laura Peak]

Yes. But. But in. But I go home and I'm like, turn on. Yes. Yeah, 100%. I'm trying to figure it out. I was. I've been thinking a lot about how I would like to, you know, how people are like, you know, I'm fine on the outside, but on the inside I'm losing it. Yeah. That a lot.

[Chris D'Elia]

It's like some shit that someone. Like someone you went to high school with. Posts on Facebook.

[Laura Peak]

Yeah, exactly.

[Chris D'Elia]

It's like a black and blue hued print of like a werewolf tearing through.

[Laura Peak]

A bit of like a moon.

[Chris D'Elia]

And it's like, you have no idea what's inside of me. It's. It's a little duck.

[Laura Peak]

And it's like, you know, it's. Feet are working really hard. I'm calm up top, but at the bottom.

[Chris D'Elia]

Is that you? Are you the dog?

[Laura Peak]

I'm the little duck whose feet are working too hard. And the feet are my brain. And I feed her brain. But I've been thinking so much about how much I'd like to reverse that.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

Like, I would love to be totally at peace on the inside, but losing my fucking.

[Chris D'Elia]

That's Lisa Trigger. You just described Lisa Trager.

[Laura Peak]

She has so much inner peace she's spouting off at.

[Chris D'Elia]

Truly, she. What does she tell me? She goes. I was catching up with her the other day, she came over to my house and she goes. She goes, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm a little crazy. I went off on a man at the Delta Lounge. She had just like, come from the Airport.

[Laura Peak]

Flawless impression, by the way. That's exactly. I'm sorry. Looking in every direction.

[Chris D'Elia]

I went off on a man at the Delta Lounge and I go, what do you do? She goes, well, he did nothing wrong, but in the moment.

[Laura Peak]

I live for her. You're absolutely right. Right. Though. She has such. I remember posting, I was like having problems with drinking. Lol. And lol.

[Chris D'Elia]

My problems with drinking, of course.

[Laura Peak]

My famous problems.

[Chris D'Elia]

Well, you know, she's got that drinking habit. She's got.

[Laura Peak]

She's. She loves the drink.

[Chris D'Elia]

She loves the drink.

[Laura Peak]

She goes in for the drink. She's in for a Vinnie, in for.

[Chris D'Elia]

A pound on the drink, baby.

[Laura Peak]

But I posted something, my close friends. And it was like just after I'd gotten kind of close with Lisa, I just added her to the list.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And I had spent time with her and I, I like posted something about being like, really in my feelings, obviously being like, how is everyone dealing with this? How is everyone dealing with addiction in my life that I love? Because I know we're all kind of struggling. She sent the most thoughtful.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yes.

[Laura Peak]

Like two paragraph response being like, you're. You have to stop beating yourself up about it. That's the first thing you have to do.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

Is stop experiencing so much shame about it. And then you see her online and she's like, well, I punched a man.

[Chris D'Elia]

She was going off, she was going off on a comedy club the other day.

[Laura Peak]

The blue room screwed her.

[Chris D'Elia]

They did. And when she was doing it, she was like, I'm the worst person to try and do this to. And I'm like the self awareness of. You are.

[Laura Peak]

I'm going to yap. Yeah, I'm going to yap about it.

[Chris D'Elia]

God, I love what it's.

[Laura Peak]

You have. I'm sorry to a little meta to talk about your pod inside your pod, but what did she say? You were like, what do you know about yourself? And she was like, I'm conspiratorial.

[Chris D'Elia]

Oh, it's one of my favorite moments of the podcast that I just completely unprompted. I was like, I was like, Lisa, what do you think your red flags are? Without missing a beat, she goes, I'm conspiratorial. I fly off the handle. I'm confrontational. Like she really just listed and every one of them, I was like, yeah, yeah. And I love you to death. She's one of, she's one of probably four close friends that genuinely listens to every episode of the show.

[Laura Peak]

So.

[Chris D'Elia]

And this will bring her so much joy.

[Laura Peak]

Oh my God, we love You, Lisa. It's one of my favorite people on the planet.

[Chris D'Elia]

Her. Katie Crutchfield. Doyle. I think our friend Doyle and one or two other people that I'm sure. I'm forgetting that. Text me, like, weekly, being like, oh, my God, this week's episode when they said this, like, they're really listening.

[Laura Peak]

You've got. You have cultivated. You've got friends.

[Chris D'Elia]

I have friends. I have stolen. I have stolen from the universe.

[Laura Peak]

It's crazy.

[Chris D'Elia]

Too many riches when it comes to friends.

[Laura Peak]

He's sitting on a big thing.

[Chris D'Elia]

I've gotten so lucky. I've gotten so lucky with people. This is, like, the best gift of my life. Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

No, you cultivate it. It's not love. It's like you care about people.

[Chris D'Elia]

Not really. I'm bad to these people. You should see the way I am to chance.

[Laura Peak]

Behind the scenes, I have a feeling that you're really cruel. Is that right?

[Chris D'Elia]

I am contractually obligated by legitimate business Empire, LLC to say nothing.

[Laura Peak]

Yeah, you can't see it. He's off Mike. His hands are tied behind his back.

[Chris D'Elia]

Well, he works better that way. He focuses up.

[Laura Peak]

If you have. If you use your faculties like that.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

Your brain's working out. It strengthens your brain. That's right. It's like when you're blind and you can smell, really.

[Chris D'Elia]

Sometimes I blindfold him. Sometimes I put a big cartoon clip on his nose. I take away other senses so that.

[Laura Peak]

He can really lock in.

[Chris D'Elia]

Podcast, produce. We call it playtime. Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, my God. Your enrichment. Yeah, enrichment in your closure.

[Chris D'Elia]

Don't give him too much attention.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, I'm sorry. He loves it too much. He's smiling a lot.

[Chris D'Elia]

He starts to crash out.

[Laura Peak]

My. My sweet, fully offline husband the other day. Yeah, we're moving. We've. I will say this one thing, keeping me in LA a little bit. We just found a truly glorious apartment in Los Angeles.

[Chris D'Elia]

I love that. What's the address?

[Laura Peak]

So good.

[Chris D'Elia]

I love asking people for their address.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, I. I really. I was trying to go with the bit I said it.

[Chris D'Elia]

Obviously, chances. Making a note of that will be chance.

[Laura Peak]

Untie your hands and make a note of that. No, but it's so beautiful. But he's. He's. He's terminally offline. Like, has never. I remember we were in college, he had a girlfriend that made him a Facebook profile in, like, 2009. And the moment they broke up, he was like, I'm gonna delete it. I don't care. But it just cares. Not at all. To be on It. And you know what? I wax photic about it and I brag about it. He's never somewhere he goes, yeah, yeah.

[Chris D'Elia]

I need him.

[Laura Peak]

He's the love of my.

[Chris D'Elia]

I need a man who's never seen.

[Laura Peak]

A screen, he doesn't even know he's never seen a television show. Yeah, I don't let him watch movies.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah, I love that.

[Laura Peak]

But he, the other day he had been like, on like traveling from one place to the other or finishing packing, whatever, and he's like, yeah, I got really tired and I just, I went home and I just crashed out. And I was like, that's not what that means. I was like, you pitched a fit. Like you had like a meltdown. He was like, no, I went to sleep.

[Chris D'Elia]

Oh, I love him.

[Laura Peak]

It was so cute. I didn't even tell him. I didn't even tell him. He's gonna hear this for the first time. I just went home and crashed.

[Chris D'Elia]

I pictured him being like this, throwing tables and shit.

[Laura Peak]

I hate moving.

[Chris D'Elia]

God, I love him. He's so real.

[Laura Peak]

I went home and just totally crashed out. Just honk shoe me, me, me, me.

[Chris D'Elia]

He's got a little candle on a plate.

[Laura Peak]

Little, little, little hat, really long nightgown. Are you happy internally?

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah, no, yeah, I am.

[Laura Peak]

I can feel your peace.

[Chris D'Elia]

I am. But I, I've talked about this a little bit on here recently. The struggle, I think is, I, I, I don't, is trying to disabuse ourselves. I think a lot of us have this idea that there, there are, are happy people and then there are unhappy people.

[Laura Peak]

That's so. Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

That happy is a type of person.

[Laura Peak]

It's not a binary thing.

[Chris D'Elia]

That is not real. Happy is not a type of person. Happy is a feeling that you can experience. And if you set your life up, if you're lucky and you set your life up in a good way and you really pursue it, you can experience the feeling of happiness more often.

[Laura Peak]

Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

And if, and if the ratio is good, you will, you will think of yourself as a happy person, and that's great. But that happy people are not real. I am a person and I try to experience happiness as much as I can. And I do experience a lot of happiness, but I also experience frustration, burnout, depression, lows, exhaustion, depression, anxiety. I experience the full range of human emotions, thank God.

[Laura Peak]

Which is great.

[Chris D'Elia]

Which is great.

[Laura Peak]

The point of being alive.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah. And, and I think part of experiencing happiness at the most that you can, is knowing how to deal with when you're frustrated, when you're tired when you're exhausted, when you're depressed and just going, yeah, that's okay, today I'm depressed, or today I'm being moody, or today I'm not the most fun to be around, or today I'm quiet and you just go, okay, I'll let that go on for an hour. Or I'll let that go on for a day.

[Laura Peak]

And tomorrow it'll be better. Yes. Oh, it's beautiful.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah. You have to treat the bad stuff just like the good stuff. Like it won't be here forever. And that's okay.

[Laura Peak]

Can you, Will you come talk me to sleep?

[Chris D'Elia]

Yes, Yes, I will. And it's gonna be so bad for you.

[Laura Peak]

It's gonna be terrible.

[Chris D'Elia]

It's gonna be bad for you. I was gonna say one thing. Do you spend a lot of time alone?

[Laura Peak]

I, I really like to be alone.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And I, I cultivate alone time a lot.

[Chris D'Elia]

What are you doing in this alone time?

[Laura Peak]

I'm pretending to write.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

Most of it. And then I'm just crashing out.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

It's not so bad. I, I, I do, I cultivate a lot of experiences by myself. I go to movies by myself. I go to dinner by myself. I go on extremely long walks every day of my life.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And I'm trying my best to, to, to adopt that mentality of just being. Like every emotion you have is fleeting. I, I feel like I'm grasping that. But when happy, when I do experience true happiness and joy, it's impossible for me to think about it as anything other than like, momentary and that I don't deserve it. I have a deep amount of shame.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yes.

[Laura Peak]

Not sure why I don't, I'm Catholic. I don't know.

[Chris D'Elia]

Do you think? Really? Why, why, why?

[Laura Peak]

I don't know. I was thinking about it the other day. I've, I have living parents who are in love together and love me very much. There is no reason for me to have the amount of just like in it, like truly inherent guilt and shame that I have. But it is the, the thrum of my entire existence is a low sense of really intense self hatred. Sorry, did you.

[Chris D'Elia]

Don't be sorry. This is very interesting. Did you, did you grow up Catholic?

[Laura Peak]

Yeah.

[Chris D'Elia]

I mean, that's almost.

[Laura Peak]

It literally has to be. It literally has to be.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

But, but it wasn't, I'll say it wasn't like definitely in the home. That was not imparted on me. This was not like an insanely religious household in which everything, in which, you know, everything was a sin and everything you do is wrong.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And school. I was. I was barely paying attention to that. I was. I. You know, I wasn't even really taking that in. So I do wonder where it was, where it got really deep in there. But, like, I will harp on and. And just. I will harp on any mistake longer than I have any right to and really lash myself over it for a really long time.

[Chris D'Elia]

And the feeling when you're happy is that you don't deserve it.

[Laura Peak]

Yeah. Immediately.

[Chris D'Elia]

Because I don't. I don't have that. But. And I'm. And I'm trying to understand that as you're saying it. I have. When I'm. When I'm happy, I. That I can't hold on to it.

[Laura Peak]

See?

[Chris D'Elia]

And that makes me sad.

[Laura Peak]

Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

And so there will often be times where I'm quite happy, where I have to fight this. This creeping emotion of like, oh, this is gonna. Tomorrow's not gonna be like this. You have to wake up tomorrow and do things you don't want to do.

[Laura Peak]

Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

You're gonna be sad again next week. Like, there's this. There's this voice when I'm happy that's like, you can't hold on to this. Isn't that sad? You may as well ruin this as well.

[Laura Peak]

Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

And I just push. I fight that and go, no, you're not real. You're fake. Get the out of here.

[Laura Peak]

Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

Deserving. It is so interesting.

[Laura Peak]

Well, I think so much of my. Like, I have tied a lot of my. This is, like, weird career stuff too. But I have tied a lot of my happiness to what I consider to be success. And so I'm like. Which is very toxic. And I'm trying. I'm unlearning that. I'm talking about a lot in therapy these days.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

But, like. Like, big opportunities, things that I've really wanted. I go, yeah, it's a fluke. Like, you do not deserve that. Like, like, truly will talk myself out of being excited about it.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

At every stage of the process. And then as it's happening and as I'm meeting the moment and doing what I came there to do and. And. And doing a good job. I'm like, there you go. But that's it. That's seven minutes long. It is. It's very. The. The place. And this is lame, but the place that I experience the most true and lasting joy is in my relationship. And. And he. He. He is the least neurotic person alive and gives me a real sense of, like, you deserve to be okay.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

But outside of that, honey, I.

[Chris D'Elia]

That. Yeah, that's.

[Laura Peak]

We don't want it tied to the man.

[Chris D'Elia]

That's really good for you, though.

[Laura Peak]

He could have a heart attack. You know what I mean?

[Chris D'Elia]

He could. He could. But you have it now. You have it now. And that's really nice.

[Laura Peak]

It is. It is.

[Chris D'Elia]

Thank God for that.

[Laura Peak]

I know.

[Chris D'Elia]

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[Laura Peak]

But you're right that it's like I have to understand it as fleeting but also very beautiful and important. That's all I need to know. That's a very good word.

[Chris D'Elia]

And also like with the career stuff, like I don't know.

[Laura Peak]

Yeah. Where are you at with that?

[Chris D'Elia]

I just don't. I don't think of it in terms of deserving. I don't think of it in terms of, I don't know, I just think like I don't deserve the life I have. You know what I mean? I feel very lucky for it. But I don't, I don't think because dessert, to me, in my own estimation, deserving a very good life would imply that people deserve bad lives.

[Laura Peak]

Yes. Wow. Yes. The opposite has to be true.

[Chris D'Elia]

And I don't think that people deserve bad lives.

[Laura Peak]

Very good point.

[Chris D'Elia]

I think that some people. I would like to see some people that have done bad things get some. Unfortunately, there's a part of me that wants to see them punished, which is.

[Laura Peak]

If Pete Hikeseth got hit by a train today, I'd be like, okay, I.

[Chris D'Elia]

Look, I would say what are we having for lunch? You know what I mean? Like, I would move on pretty quickly from that news. But I think, yeah, I think just not think. Trying not to think of it as deserving. And also like I think I think about a lot that brings me great peace. That used to bring me a lot of not peace. Is nobody, after enough time, nobody is going to remember what any of us did.

[Laura Peak]

Isn't that fabulous? Isn't that liberating?

[Chris D'Elia]

The most famous person on earth right now and the least famous person on Earth right now and all the other descriptors. Most rich, Least rich. Like everything you can think of about us. With enough passage of time, this solar system is going to crash into another solar system and create an amount of energy that will destroy every living thing and, and none of it. The only thing that will have mattered is that whether or not we had a nice time and were nice to each other and even kind of, frankly, not that, but I hold on to that one for fun. You know what I mean?

[Laura Peak]

I am gonna. I'm hanging on by a thread that's gonna make me cry.

[Chris D'Elia]

Title of the episode being, I tell my mentally ill friend that nothing matters. Her reaction, I don't know, do you find it comforting or is that sad?

[Laura Peak]

No, I, I love that. I love that. I mean, no, that really does bring me comfort. And the idea, I mean, okay, make your mark. It's huge. We're having a ton of fun. I do. I am able in the, in the very moment to totally believe and understand that.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yes.

[Laura Peak]

I just, I. I know that brings me a ton of comfort. I, I just have to. I have to quiet my own mind. And it, and it. I suffer a lot from, like, racing thoughts. I suffer a lot from, from whatever this, like, shame built in thing is. But you're right. You're so right. Like, it won't. Young people don't know who William Shatner is. You know what I mean?

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And he's the most famous person. Yes. I thought you were about to say he's President of the United States. President of the United States.

[Chris D'Elia]

No. But you know what I do think of? It brings me peace sometimes too, in career to think of. Like, okay, so we're in a culture, we're in a subculture of comics and famous people and actors and whatever. We're a part of that scene.

[Laura Peak]

Yeah.

[Chris D'Elia]

And sometimes when I think about, like, the kings of little fiefdoms near where I grew up, like, the, the guy who's like, he's like chair of the school board and ev in every restaurant he walks into big Dick swinging everywhere and I laugh because I'm like, this doesn't matter. And every person buying into this is so silly. And then I look at myself and go, same to you, my friends. You are not better than that.

[Laura Peak]

You're walking into the Applebee's with your hog out.

[Chris D'Elia]

You are acting. You are acting like the school board president in Lynn County, Missouri. And anyone who's allowing you to act like that is just as foolish. It's not different.

[Laura Peak]

It's so true. He's getting the fajita platter and everybody knows it.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah, it's like the, like status and the like, pursuit. And I'm try. I try so hard not to be in pursuit of influencer status. But, like, I. I think a good thing to think about is, like, if you can look at another group of people who are so tied up in their own little power structure and then look at whatever yours is, whether it's your office job or your group of friends or your theater group or whatever, and just go, I'm as silly as them. Knock it off.

[Laura Peak]

100. I'm as much a goose as any one of my friends said to me one time. My friend Katie was like, there is nothing. There is nothing more dangerous than, like, perceived power in, like, a small environment. You know, like, it really will drive you absolutely bonkers. And I think about the different stages of my life and who I ascribed that to. Like, you're saying the school bird grade. It's like, who I. Who I gave that to that status to. All of them hilarious. All. Absolutely all of them hilarious. The dude that I wanted to like me. The. The people at my school that I thought were more important or more popular. Like, every step of your life, you have someone who is remarkably dumb and silly that you're like, that's it.

[Chris D'Elia]

And you look back and go, why did I give them any power at all? Yeah, I participated in their legitimacy.

[Laura Peak]

Why I. I sucked him off.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah, I sucked that guy off. I sucked off William Shatner and how the kids don't know who he is.

[Laura Peak]

That's title. Which, which member of. Of. Of the. The Hollywood elite did it.

[Chris D'Elia]

There you go. There's the episode title. And we'll include the stammering.

[Laura Peak]

You have to. I lost it. I lost the thread.

[Chris D'Elia]

Which, Which. Here's your title.

[Laura Peak]

Which sucked him off.

[Chris D'Elia]

Dude. The number of times on PA Podcast that I. My. My brain goes, you've got something. And then I open my mouth to say it, and I just end up going, oh.

[Laura Peak]

And another thing.

[Chris D'Elia]

Or I'll be in the middle of the. And go, you don't have an ending. You don't have an ending to what you're saying. Wrap it up.

[Laura Peak]

This is getting a light.

[Chris D'Elia]

I'm doing it. I'm lighting myself. Wrap it up.

[Laura Peak]

He thought he ate. I thought I was about to eat for dinner.

[Chris D'Elia]

I thought I was about to eat for dinner. He was supposed to serve me dinner. I'm hungry.

[Laura Peak]

About to eat for dinner, dude. And, and. And. And one more thing.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah. Yeah, give it to me. Dude, I have to tell you something horrible.

[Laura Peak]

What happened?

[Chris D'Elia]

I've been trying to eat better breakfasts.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, what's going on with your breakfast? I'm a breakfast gal.

[Chris D'Elia]

I either skip it or I eat something horrendous. I either skip it or I'm like, like, I'm like, well, you've got the whole day to, like, for your body to work through this. You know what I mean? So I'll eat, like, just something crazy, like, something. So I'll have, like, a donut and, like, snacking bacon from Duncan.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, that sounds really good.

[Chris D'Elia]

It's really good because they, like, sprinkle sugar and crack cocaine on it.

[Laura Peak]

Yeah. 100, you wake up ready to go. Who needs a cup of coffee?

[Chris D'Elia]

And the other day I tried this protein cereal that I was like, okay, so what you're going after is, like, you'd like to be filled up full.

[Laura Peak]

Get your macros.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah, you want to. Whatever that means.

[Laura Peak]

I don't know.

[Chris D'Elia]

Either you want to be full, and so why don't you eat this protein cereal? And I got the. It looked like a. It was a cute branding and it was like, oh, there's like, you know, however many grams, 40 grams of protein in a cup or something crazy like that. And I was like, oh, my gosh. Awesome. And it says, oh, it's cinnamon toast crunch flavored. And I was like, I love cinnamon toast crunch. I want to say they made it out of rat poison and dog. It tasted so bad.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, no.

[Chris D'Elia]

And I can tell you it was filling. I took.

[Laura Peak]

I took a. Yeah, I'm full of dog.

[Chris D'Elia]

It was so hard to chew that I was like this. They're. It's. It's a battle of attrition.

[Laura Peak]

I'm just tired.

[Chris D'Elia]

They're wearing me down.

[Laura Peak]

Yeah, I don't need to eat anything for months. I'm exhausted.

[Chris D'Elia]

I've had enough of this cereal and of being alive. I've just had enough.

[Laura Peak]

40 grams of kill yourself Truly.

[Chris D'Elia]

I was like, this is so bad.

[Laura Peak]

That's horrific.

[Chris D'Elia]

I know. And I really. When I bought it was one of those moments when I bought it that I was like, you son of a. You cracked the code.

[Laura Peak]

Look at you. Look at you.

[Chris D'Elia]

Cinnamon toast crunch. Protein flavored cereal.

[Laura Peak]

What was on. What was on that box? Can I ask what it looked like? Because I get fooled by that a lot.

[Chris D'Elia]

It was like. It was the cereal, but they made the cereal look so appetizing and good. And it was. Yeah, it was really cute. And it was like a Matte box, like, with a nice finish.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, they're doing such beautiful things. Of course. Yeah. 12 bucks of cereal.

[Chris D'Elia]

It wouldn't be expensive if it wasn't good.

[Laura Peak]

That's right.

[Chris D'Elia]

You know, I was. And I'm just so. It's so funny that still at this point in my life, I can be in situations and think, this time you figured it out. Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

You nailed it.

[Chris D'Elia]

You found the thing that's gonna fix everything thing. I was putting so much on the cereal. I was like, my days are about to, like, be. I'm going to. I'm gonna write three hours a day, 100. Because of this cereal.

[Laura Peak]

Well, it's. It's important to be excited, as we've discussed.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah. Delusional.

[Laura Peak]

Delusion. Very delusional. Thinking Breakfast is hard, though. Breakfast is always hard.

[Chris D'Elia]

I hate it.

[Laura Peak]

I went out yesterday. I'm staying at a friend's place in Prospect Park. And I was like, I'm about to have me a New York City day. And I was like, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna get up. I'm gonna go for a walk. I'm gonna sit in the park and write. I brought all my little things. My backpack weighed a thousand pounds. I was really moving and grooving.

[Chris D'Elia]

Can't write outside. It's such a lie that I tell myself.

[Laura Peak]

Hilarious. I didn't write a word. I haven't written in five years. But. But I get up and I'm like, I'm gonna hit this little breakfast spot. And I see it's very cute. It was very. Reviews were so adorable. It's like a soul food cafe. I was like, amazing. They have so many great things on the menu, like, really healthy ways to start your day.

[Chris D'Elia]

Soul food. CA Park.

[Laura Peak]

Gloria's. Was it Gloria's or Gloria's?

[Chris D'Elia]

Okay. That's not what I think of. There's a whole food restaurant over there that I love that I will not say the name of on here.

[Laura Peak]

Okay.

[Chris D'Elia]

Okay. Because it's doing quite well, and I'd like to gatekeep it.

[Laura Peak]

Got it.

[Chris D'Elia]

But I want to know.

[Laura Peak]

Maybe I got the name wrong. It might be the same one, but. But I sit down and I'm like, look at all this. I'm like.

[Chris D'Elia]

Oh, my God, that place is amazing. Make sure you can't hear that in the recording. So good.

[Laura Peak]

Glorious.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

He's like, was it Timmy's Toot in town? I'm like, that was it.

[Chris D'Elia]

That's my favorite soul food restaurant.

[Laura Peak]

It was so delicious. Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

And they're so lovely. In there. They're so nice. Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

Well, I was sitting. I was really moved. I was sitting across from a woman who's maybe in her early 60s and she's. She had one of those things. She didn't have reading glasses, but she had one of those little magnifying glasses that you put over a thing to read it. And I just saw her and she is just beaming, just ear to ear, looking around, smiling. The. The waiter comes up to her. Kind of could have, could have taken her, leave her like, you know, not particularly interested in what this woman has going on. And she was goes, all of my friends have been telling me to come here and I'm just so excited. And I, like, I was up over that.

[Chris D'Elia]

I was up.

[Laura Peak]

And she kept making eye contact with me and I would just go.

[Chris D'Elia]

I love her.

[Laura Peak]

She was a doll. She was precious. And then she got her food and she's just.

[Chris D'Elia]

Dude, it makes you feel bad, right?

[Laura Peak]

I felt like an asshole.

[Chris D'Elia]

It makes you feel bad. There's a, there's like a viral, there's like a viral video that I think I saw on like Instagram or something that's like this, this, this, this girl is like recording, I think her, her mom or her aunt and they're in like a hotel room in Cleveland and she's like on the phone with her, the mom or aunt or maybe grandma. This older woman is on the phone with her friend and she's like, she's looking out the window. She's like, girl, we're in downtown and they got restaurants down here and it's so beautiful. I love it here. I bet you wish you'd come now. Like, she's so excited to be in Cleveland. Cleveland. And I'm like, DT Cleveland. And I deserve nothing. Nothing.

[Laura Peak]

I'm a fool.

[Chris D'Elia]

I deserve nothing. If I can't be like that.

[Laura Peak]

I'm a. Of a woman. I can't make myself happy doing objectively some of the coolest things on earth.

[Chris D'Elia]

You. It's crazy to behold.

[Laura Peak]

It is. It's wild.

[Chris D'Elia]

It's really crazy.

[Laura Peak]

But she was just so, so happy. And I kept looking at her and I was looking at all these things on the menu and I was like, I'm going whole hog.

[Chris D'Elia]

Big breakfast.

[Laura Peak]

Yes, dude. There was a lovely looking salad. There were plenty of lovely options. And I ate like four massive sausages.

[Chris D'Elia]

Oh my God.

[Laura Peak]

And then I went home and I went to sleep.

[Chris D'Elia]

You know what? I'm gonna tell, I'm gonna tell you a story about this place, okay? And I'm gonna I'm gonna say the name of the place. It's Cheryl's Global Soul don't cut it. I'm not gatekeeping.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, look at you.

[Chris D'Elia]

Who knows? Maybe they need the business. I don't. I think they're doing quite well. But I love that place so much. I had one of the most magical nights there. This was in maybe December or it was winter in New York last year, and I had gone. I had gone with some people. I'd gone with a guy I was dating at the time and his sister, and we had. We'd met up with his sister at First Fridays at the Brooklyn Museum. The Brooklyn Museum loves when I talk about First Fridays.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, love that.

[Chris D'Elia]

Last time I talked about the Brooklyn Museum on here, they clipped the. The. The moment from the podcast themselves and put it on the Instagram.

[Laura Peak]

That's really sweet.

[Chris D'Elia]

Shout out to the Brooklyn Museum. I love them.

[Laura Peak]

I was. I was next to it yesterday, and I almost went in, but I went to the Botanical garden instead. I need to hit the. On a. On a weather day. I need to go there.

[Chris D'Elia]

You must go. I love the Brickell Museum. It's so fabulous. But First Fridays. There are First Saturdays. It's not First Fridays. I always mix this up. Chance, tell me, because I want to get it right. I don't care. Whatever.

[Laura Peak]

It's.

[Chris D'Elia]

I think it's First Saturday.

[Laura Peak]

It's better phonetically. First Fridays. Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

They don't. I think it's First Saturdays at the Brooklyn Museum. I go whenever it's on. And they. They're off season anyway. They're not doing it until next year, I think.

[Laura Peak]

Bummer.

[Chris D'Elia]

Okay, but. But I went. It's so many hot, cool people. And they've got some of the exhibits open and DJs and, like, live music and food vendors, and it's so fun. And then we walked to Cheryl's Global Soul. We sat down, we started ordering food. It's, like, really cold out, and it's like they've got heaters on in there. It's so warm and cozy and cute. And it's, like, full. It's full and it's. Everyone in there is having a good time, and they're playing, like, you know, great music.

[Laura Peak]

And then the playlist was crazy.

[Chris D'Elia]

The playlist is crazy. It's so good, and the food is coming, and it's amazing, and we're having so much fun. We keep ordering stuff, drinks and stuff.

[Laura Peak]

Stuff.

[Chris D'Elia]

And then what I believe is the owner. I haven't gotten to have a long conversation with her yet. We've like exchanged a couple. Hey, hello, how are yous? And she, she stands up, she's. She's there at the restaurant. She stands up and the staff starts bringing shots around to everyone in the restaurant. And she holds up a shot glass and she goes, everybody, can I get your attention please? These shots are on me tonight for no other reason than we're celebrating friendship and being alive. What a gift it is to be on this earth at the same time. Raise your glasses. And then every. The whole restaurant does a shot. I'm cry. The whole restaurant does a shot together. And then they just turn the music back up and everyone keeps eating. Being alive is actually really special. As it turns out, being alive is one of the coolest things it's ever happened to me.

[Laura Peak]

It's a gift.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah. And I won't be taking it for granted ever.

[Laura Peak]

And I'm going to be present in the present.

[Chris D'Elia]

Cuz until later today when somebody minorly.

[Laura Peak]

Inconveniences me when a guy bumps into me on the train. Until then, it's a joy to be here.

[Chris D'Elia]

God, life is beautiful. So.

[Laura Peak]

Oh. Oh my God, what a darling woman that is. The playlist was going crazy. I walk in like a. Like a fool, like a person who's just inside my own head with my headphones in. And then I. And then I'm like, like, no, I want to, I want to experience this. The food was so get out of there. Get into this. Take a shot with the staff. Oh my God. I had the most beautiful waiter I've ever seen. And we made a lot of eye contact too. What he would like, set. He would like, set things down and be like, gorgeous.

[Chris D'Elia]

Oh my God.

[Laura Peak]

I know. I don't know what's going on.

[Chris D'Elia]

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[Laura Peak]

I don't know who that is.

[Chris D'Elia]

As I. You don't know? Oh, my God. M.J. linderman. Incredible.

[Laura Peak]

So old.

[Chris D'Elia]

Put out one of my favorite albums of last year. If not, maybe my favorite.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, my God. I need to see.

[Chris D'Elia]

It's really, really good. He's great. And any. Him and Annie Duruss played at King's Theater last night. Oh.

[Laura Peak]

Big Annie fan, of course.

[Chris D'Elia]

Come on, man.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, man. I should have come a night.

[Chris D'Elia]

Design for me. I know. If I should have thought of it.

[Laura Peak]

Okay.

[Chris D'Elia]

But I. I went and a really hot guy came up to introduce himself as a fan. Clearly straight. And I was so. He. He was, like, looking at me in a way. You know, sometimes when someone's a fan of you, they look at you in a way that's like. You're looking at me in a way that's like, I want. I just so you know, I want to. You. Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

Like, yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

You're looking at me like, you know, like you listen to things I've said. You want to. Like this just like sweet Ernest straight guy looking in my eyes being like, brother, you're so funny.

[Laura Peak]

Hey, bro.

[Chris D'Elia]

And I'm like, you know, I'm like, should we kiss?

[Laura Peak]

Let's kiss, please.

[Chris D'Elia]

And I am. I was like, God, I have. I need to be looked at like that a lot.

[Laura Peak]

It is. It's.

[Chris D'Elia]

It.

[Laura Peak]

That's romantic love.

[Chris D'Elia]

That's right.

[Laura Peak]

I'm like, I've heard your thoughts.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And I've seen you. That's what I really respect you. That's romantic love.

[Chris D'Elia]

And it's a different Sometimes. Sometimes those interactions are not like that at all. They're like, you're the famous guy from the Internet.

[Laura Peak]

Very gross. Yeah. Off.

[Chris D'Elia]

But being, like, being. But you can tell it's in the eyes. He was like. He was like, I love your stuff. You're so funny. I. Your special was incredible. Thank you for putting it out. And, like, the stuff about your dad. And I was like, I'm horny.

[Laura Peak]

I'm horny.

[Chris D'Elia]

Straight up. I have a semi.

[Laura Peak]

I'm bricked.

[Chris D'Elia]

I. I am semi bricked.

[Laura Peak]

I'm bricked into a Bolivian.

[Chris D'Elia]

These Old Navy jeans. Jeans.

[Laura Peak]

I'm bricked in my Old Navy jeans. Thank you for saying I have a.

[Chris D'Elia]

Semi in my o njs. And we need to do something.

[Laura Peak]

Wait. Let's go. Let's get out of here. I don't even like this band.

[Chris D'Elia]

Let's go. A guy messaged me on Grindr last night. Cute guy. And he was like. He was like, what's up? And I was like, I just got home from the concert, and I was like, watching Gilmore Girls. Lorelei and Roy are in another situation, as always. What's up with you? He didn't respond. I'm like, you don't. What do you.

[Laura Peak]

Kind of the funniest thing anyone's ever said and you're not giving me.

[Chris D'Elia]

He obviously hasn't seen the show. Rory and Lorelei are always in a.

[Laura Peak]

Situation at each other's. Well, they're either at each other's throats or Mom's acting up. Well.

[Chris D'Elia]

And sometimes you can't even tell who the damn parent is and who's the kid.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, she. I, I, I was watching it with Carson recently. He was like, I hate Lorelei.

[Chris D'Elia]

What?

[Laura Peak]

He. He was like. He was like, she is so irresponsible, responsible.

[Chris D'Elia]

He's an interesting boy. Okay.

[Laura Peak]

Not me making you hate him now. No, he was like. No, he was like. He was just. I can't remember what the scenario was. Yeah, it reminds me so much of my favorite thing he's ever said in my life was we were watching, you know, Million three watch of Sex in the City, and I left to go to the bathroom, and I was like, keep it going. You're enjoying this episode. I know it very well.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And I heard him from the other room go. And I was like, what happened? And he goes, carrie's making it all about her again. Really par for the chorus. I mean, does. She is.

[Chris D'Elia]

And she does.

[Laura Peak]

And she does. She makes it all about her.

[Chris D'Elia]

And she does. She can't hard. She can hardly help herself.

[Laura Peak]

I mean. Well, I just. I rewatched the episode recently where she was. Did Charlotte get pregnant or something massive happened to Charlotte. No, she got engaged. She got engaged to Harry.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And she had just gotten broken up with by burger on a Post it.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And they're at brunch and she gives her two seconds of air time before she goes post it. I mean, she doesn't let her have.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

Her own engagement at all. I'm like, this bitch would be out of my life in two seconds.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah. She's crazy or what is so true to you.

[Laura Peak]

Okay. This is a big one for me thinking about it in the car. I was 15 minutes late.

[Chris D'Elia]

To the record, I was 12 minutes late.

[Laura Peak]

I walk in, Caleb goes, well, well, well. And he goes, I just got here two minutes ago.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah. I fully just walked in.

[Laura Peak]

Okay. So true to me right now is that if they are coming. If. If. If our government is coming for free speech.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yes. And it seems they are.

[Laura Peak]

And it seems that they are just totally hypothetical. America as a country does not make any sense without free speech.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

Like, it's too weird a place.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

To not be able. It's like if a. If you had a friend and they're like, hey, I'm gonna take you to the circus and we're gonna go to the freak show.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And you're gonna see the guy that swallows fire and knives. You're gonna see a lady with seven tits. And you're gonna see.

[Chris D'Elia]

And you have to watch that. And you can't go, whoa.

[Laura Peak]

I can't say anything about it. Exactly. Exactly. You're, like, sick.

[Chris D'Elia]

No.

[Laura Peak]

For sure. He's like, just one thing. You can't, like, comment.

[Chris D'Elia]

Don't react or you'll go to jail.

[Laura Peak]

You just can't say about it. But that's the point of the freak. I have to talk about the freeze. No, no.

[Chris D'Elia]

That's what you think.

[Laura Peak]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm gonna die with mounds of medical debt, and I can't say a peep.

[Chris D'Elia]

You're really right about this. You're really, really right about this. Thank you.

[Laura Peak]

It doesn't make any. At least in North Korea, people are behaving. You know what I mean?

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

We're too Weird.

[Chris D'Elia]

Well, in. How are you supposed to square, like, rural Louisiana with Chicago? And no one's allowed to talk about what's going on.

[Laura Peak]

Those two places existing in space and time. And I have to shut my little gob about it.

[Chris D'Elia]

People are also not. People are not reacting. Being big enough to me to like, we're taking so much for granted right now in terms of like, Caroline Levitt.

[Laura Peak]

That dumb Joe is such a loser.

[Chris D'Elia]

Is going on the news. And she literally on. Was on the news like last night or this morning being like, the Democrats main constituents are Hamas terrorists. And it's like, that is a fucking crazy thing to say about most of the country. Oh, my God. Because they act like they're most of the country. We are.

[Laura Peak]

They're not. They're not in the majority.

[Chris D'Elia]

The mega is not most of the country. People who don't agree with them are most of the people in the country. And the election is not. The election is not indicative of that. Most of the country doesn't vote. Most of the country is not like you. And to say most of the country is Hamas terrorists is fucking bananas, batshit insane. And we're just going, oh, well, that's politics.

[Laura Peak]

She said another crazy fucking thing.

[Chris D'Elia]

That's not politics.

[Laura Peak]

Well, and at this moment, it's so. At this exact time, it's so hard to grab hold of the latest, like, fudgeing insane thing that someone said.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah, that.

[Laura Peak]

It's like, we should be talking about that to the ends of the earth. We should be commenting on that for. It's like, you're so fudgeing wrong. Yeah. A lot of people, the vast majority of people do not agree with you. And it is like, remarkably not true. And we just let it go. It just becomes the next thing that they've said. We'll be worried about something tomorrow. It really is driving me insane.

[Chris D'Elia]

I feel crazy.

[Laura Peak]

I feel really insane.

[Chris D'Elia]

I feel crazy every day. And the thing is, most of us do. I know, but what can we do? Because we have this stupid. And they're. They're redistricting everything. They're about to gut the Voting Rights act because God forbid people who aren't. Aren't white get any kind of say in the government. They are gutting the Voting Rights act and they are going to have like, mega control forever. They think. I'm really hopeful. What.

[Laura Peak]

What I'm thinking about the.

[Chris D'Elia]

What would be awesome is if they didn't got the Voting Rights Act.

[Laura Peak]

You know what we say it would.

[Chris D'Elia]

Be sick is if they left that. But would Be really awesome is if they did and then a bunch of people voted against them because of it.

[Laura Peak]

Yep.

[Chris D'Elia]

Do I know, Do I think that that'll happen? I don't know know. But I know that the way they're trying to run this government is not going to work for working people.

[Laura Peak]

Exactly.

[Chris D'Elia]

Because Trump is doing crypto schemes. He's manipulating the economy to drive up crypto prices. And when it doesn't work for working people, no matter what their majority is, they're going to either have to do legitimate insurrection act, martial law and overthrow all of the people.

[Laura Peak]

Yep.

[Chris D'Elia]

Or they're going to lose crazy style. Yeah, they are going to lose crazy style.

[Laura Peak]

I have, I have a little bit of hope in the last. Better. I really, I really.

[Chris D'Elia]

And I have a lot of fear in the form. Yes. I have a lot of fear that if it starts to seem like Joe Plummer in Ohio, no more. They're like, oh, then elections, I'll shoot him in the head.

[Laura Peak]

Yeah, we're going to go to his house.

[Chris D'Elia]

Oh, that looks like antifa boys. Pepper spray that.

[Laura Peak]

Pepper spray that priest.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

Joe Smith is a Hamas terrorist.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yes.

[Laura Peak]

And so is his wife.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah. You're right wing uncle who's an electrician in Texas. Really bad news, guys. He's Al Qaeda. We just found out Caroline Levitt just found out he's Al Qaeda.

[Laura Peak]

Oh my God. Aunt Cheryl's Isis.

[Chris D'Elia]

Oh, so we're sending, we're sending some schlubby 32 year old dimwits who couldn't find a respectable job in ICE uniforms to disappear him.

[Laura Peak]

They are cracking me up and I know they are. Are so inept and it is, it is scary in every way. But you throw a little Benny Hill soundtrack onto these trying to chase one guy on a bike. I'm laughing harder than.

[Chris D'Elia]

They're so ugly. It's awesome. You almost have to be jealous of these ICE agents because something really cool happened for them. Here are unfuckable, unemployable, unintelligent, ugly ass losers. And now they get a job that pays them well for nothing. They get to be assholes to people that are cooler than them. And they get to wear a mask. A mask. Oh my God. They get to cover their ugly face.

[Laura Peak]

To go viral in a mask.

[Chris D'Elia]

Crazy, crazy work like they literally found a dream scenario.

[Laura Peak]

It's true. It is. It's the life.

[Chris D'Elia]

I mean, dim witted, useless pieces of.

[Laura Peak]

If I was 75% less smart, you know, I would up.

[Chris D'Elia]

Oh my God. Yeah, if. I swear to God, if you Put half these ICE agents in front of the children's game where you try to put the square in the square hole. They'd be ramming it at the truck triangle. These guys, he pissed his pants.

[Laura Peak]

You.

[Chris D'Elia]

All you can see of their face is their eyes. And it's just giving. Lenny.

[Laura Peak]

You just see.

[Chris D'Elia]

You just see a couple of Lenny peepers staring back at you vacantly. It's crazy.

[Laura Peak]

Nothing in there. There's nothing in there.

[Chris D'Elia]

We're gonna get that plot of land, brother. It's crazy. There's just not a light in the house on with these guys. And they' in unmarked Toyota Siennas.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, yeah. Stepping off a dirt bike coming into your home.

[Chris D'Elia]

And we're. And it's supposed to be like, respect our law enforcement. I don't have. That's a guy.

[Laura Peak]

Hey, that's some dude.

[Chris D'Elia]

That's just some guy.

[Laura Peak]

Some dude. He got $70,000 to put that mask on. He's some guy.

[Chris D'Elia]

You actually have to let him kidnap the Guatemalan line cook who lives next door and bothers nobody and is the.

[Laura Peak]

Nicest man you've ever met. There was a. Oh my God. I saw a video yesterday, yesterday of this woman going the off. It was in New York on this man. And you're like, there's a million things you can say to these people. They deserve every, every type of lashing out you could possibly imagine. She goes, your wife is stepping out on you. You little. It wasn't like you're, you know, you're abusing my rights, you're not respecting the Constitution, your wife's cheating on you, and your dick is small. You. It was so satisfying.

[Chris D'Elia]

I live. I absolutely live. There's been videos of, of protesters, the, the like outfits of the ICE agents. And you can just see that it's really getting to these guys.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, oh, they're. They really are starting to feel it.

[Chris D'Elia]

I love.

[Laura Peak]

They're starting to see themselves reflected in these people a little bit. I mean, they have to.

[Chris D'Elia]

I really obviously don't want them to come to New York in the way they're talking about doing next year.

[Laura Peak]

Of course.

[Chris D'Elia]

I've just been thinking so much about the number of problems we have in this country that are so legitimate and need actual answers and solutions and that all. Of course, course, being upset about undocumented immigrants right now is like if you were sitting on the street and a man pulled up in like a gold Rolls Royce and got out in like a, a two million dollar suit and came over and said, open up, I'm gonna Take a. In your mouth. And then while he was in your mouth, there was a guy playing harmonica a little loudly, like 10ft over. And you were like, we gotta kill the harmonica guy.

[Laura Peak]

The harmonica guy is driving me like insane.

[Chris D'Elia]

You're. There's. In your mouth. The.

[Laura Peak]

The harmonica guy is the reason that I taste so much.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah. Meanwhile, everyone's loving the harmonica.

[Laura Peak]

Yeah.

[Chris D'Elia]

Everyone's having a good.

[Laura Peak]

Sitting around enjoying.

[Chris D'Elia]

Ask him to play it.

[Laura Peak]

Enjoying it. He's a great community member.

[Chris D'Elia]

Having fun with. He's like a beloved member of the community.

[Laura Peak]

Good dad.

[Chris D'Elia]

He plays harmonica at all the birthday parties.

[Laura Peak]

Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

He's.

[Laura Peak]

He doesn't ask for anything in return.

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

And I. But there's poop in my mouth.

[Chris D'Elia]

But there's poop in my mouth.

[Laura Peak]

And I want to kill that harmonica guy.

[Chris D'Elia]

Or. Laura, I have a segment for you. You know what's about to happen?

[Laura Peak]

What? Oh, yeah. Oh, God, I forgot. I've. I've historically performed well on these, and I'm nervous now that I'm gonna.

[Chris D'Elia]

I'm Gonna read you 15 statements, okay. You're gonna tell me as quickly as you can if what I just said was true or false.

[Laura Peak]

Okay.

[Chris D'Elia]

You get 10 or more correct. We're gonna give you 50 US dollars. You ready?

[Laura Peak]

Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

A sneeze can travel up to speeds of 100 miles per hour.

[Laura Peak]

Sure. Yes. No. No. Yet. Yeah. Carson. I do a guy. An impression of a guy who's deciding that the answer is yes while he's saying it. He goes, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yes.

[Chris D'Elia]

Do you think true or false?

[Laura Peak]

True.

[Chris D'Elia]

It is. True. Drake and Josh had more episodes than Keenan and Kevin.

[Laura Peak]

True.

[Chris D'Elia]

False. Yawning is contagious.

[Laura Peak]

True.

[Chris D'Elia]

True. Wicked debuted on Broadway on 2003.

[Laura Peak]

On 2003, that's how it's written. Okay. True.

[Chris D'Elia]

True. The Tennessee Volunteers football team played their first season in 1910.

[Laura Peak]

True.

[Chris D'Elia]

False. 1891.

[Laura Peak]

Kill me.

[Chris D'Elia]

The smallest bone in the human body is in the nose.

[Laura Peak]

False.

[Chris D'Elia]

False. It's the ear. Johnny Appleseed is a fictional character. Character.

[Laura Peak]

False.

[Chris D'Elia]

False. He was a real man. Dollywood's official slogan is Love every moment.

[Laura Peak]

True.

[Chris D'Elia]

True. Welcome to the Jungle was written by Motley Crue.

[Laura Peak]

True.

[Chris D'Elia]

False. Guns N Roses bats aren't actually blind.

[Laura Peak]

False.

[Chris D'Elia]

True. Leanne rhimes has released 17 studio albums. True. True. The Great Wall of China is visible from space. True. False. Albert Einstein failed his fourth grade math class.

[Laura Peak]

True.

[Chris D'Elia]

False. Father Ryan High School's yearbook is called the Clover Over.

[Laura Peak]

False.

[Chris D'Elia]

False. It's Irish pride. A blue whale's tongue can Weigh as much as an adult elephant.

[Laura Peak]

True, true.

[Chris D'Elia]

How'd she do? Another nine. Wow. We've had a run of nines. Getting good at this.

[Laura Peak]

Can I have 25?

[Chris D'Elia]

You since you came on last. Is it? Did we pay you last time you came on?

[Laura Peak]

You know I did it and you didn't pay me.

[Chris D'Elia]

Wow. We pay people now, regardless.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, really?

[Chris D'Elia]

Yeah.

[Laura Peak]

I get that 50.

[Chris D'Elia]

You get more than that.

[Laura Peak]

Are you kidding me?

[Chris D'Elia]

You know, we made some changes.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, my. This is the best day of my life.

[Chris D'Elia]

We took a look at the books.

[Laura Peak]

Things are going well.

[Chris D'Elia]

We took a look at the books and we said, hey, we've been actually accidentally doing some crimes. We. We. We owe people some money.

[Laura Peak]

I did a grand larceny.

[Chris D'Elia]

We did grand larceny on accident for. For legal reasons. Reasons. Kidding.

[Laura Peak]

That's really fabulous. Changed my whole week.

[Chris D'Elia]

Really?

[Laura Peak]

Yes, it is. Yeah.

[Chris D'Elia]

That was kind of sad to hear.

[Laura Peak]

Yo, girl. That's a little bit sad.

[Chris D'Elia]

I hated that.

[Laura Peak]

I hated that. I need you to be doing better.

[Chris D'Elia]

Worried about you.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, sweetie. No. That big.

[Chris D'Elia]

Whoa. No. We love you so much, Laura. Thank you so much for doing this.

[Laura Peak]

I love you. Thank you for having me.

[Chris D'Elia]

Please tell people where they can find you.

[Laura Peak]

Oh, Find me on Instagram at Laura Peak Live. P E E K L A U R A Did it backwards. And then Laura pcomedy.com. i got a bunch of dates coming up. I'm gonna be all over the country.

[Chris D'Elia]

Hell yeah. You said. You said find me at Laura Peak Live. P E L A you. It's U R and L I V E at the end. The most complicated.

[Laura Peak]

That's Smith.

[Chris D'Elia]

Go see War on tour. One of the best.

[Laura Peak]

Love to laugh.

[Chris D'Elia]

One of the best. To do it simply. One of our greatest living stand ups.

[Laura Peak]

Love you.

[Chris D'Elia]

Thank you very much.

[Laura Peak]

That was a Headgum podcast.

[Chris D'Elia]

What's going on? It's Lamorne Morris and Hannah Simone and we host the Mess Around a New Girl Rewatch podcast now on Headgum. Now here's the thing. Every single week, we chat about an episode of New Girl and we really get into it. Like, we get up in there. We get up in there. You know, we reminisce about our times on set. We share behind the scenes tea. We react to rewatching episodes that we haven't seen in years. We talk about how Jake Johnson is dog.

[Laura Peak]

That's not true. We talk about so many memories we have of working with the biggest stars on the planet. I'm talking Prince Terry, Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo.

[Chris D'Elia]

We're just two BFFs having a good old time. Okay? Sometimes we even talk to other co stars like Zoe Deschanel, Jake Johnson, Max Greenfield and Damon Wayans Jr. And your dad. We talked to your dad on this show as well.

[Laura Peak]

Make sure you subscribe to the mess around wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes drop every single Tuesday. Did you know you can opt out of winter with VRBO? Save up to 1500 dollars for booking a month long stay. Stay with thousands of sunny homes. Why subject yourself to the cold? Just filter your search by monthly stays and save up to $1,500. Book [e-mail].