Outrageous Exchange | Jimmy Rollins | Social Dallas

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Podcast Summary: "Outrageous Exchange" | Pastor Jimmy Rollins at Social Dallas

Social Dallas Podcast | June 28, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode features guest speaker Pastor Jimmy Rollins, renowned pastor, evangelist, and marriage coach, delivering a passionate message titled "Outrageous Exchange" to the Social Dallas congregation. The message focuses on God's pattern of outrageous and unfair exchanges throughout scripture, the necessity of sacrificial worship, and the transformation that occurs when individuals place what is valuable to them into God’s hands. Drawing from personal testimony, biblical stories (primarily Abraham and Isaac in Genesis 22), and lively encouragement, Pastor Rollins challenges listeners to consider what they are willing to exchange for a greater promise in Christ.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Atmosphere of Expectation and Presence (01:06–04:30)

• Pastor Taylor and Worship Leader set the tone, focusing on expectancy for transformation and God’s presence.
• Key point: "This is not built on Robert and Taylor Madu. This is built on Jesus. This is built on the Holy Spirit that is available to you and to me..." (03:00)

2. Honoring Leadership and The Power of Trust (05:19–07:22)

• Pastor Jimmy Rollins opens by honoring Pastors Robert and Taylor Madu, emphasizing the importance of trust and honoring spiritual leaders.
  • "Honor is the currency of the kingdom. And when we honor someone, what we're saying is, God, my spirit comes in agreement with your choice." (06:55)

3. Personal Testimony—Pain and Purpose (07:34–09:58)

• Rollins shares recent family struggles: his wife Irene’s battles with Lyme disease and aggressive breast cancer, inspiring the thrust of his message.
  • “It was in the midst of that pain that God began to birth this message I’m going to preach to you." (08:53)

4. Foundation: Outrageous Exchanges in Everyday Life (09:59–15:48)

• Illustration via relatable exchanges (ash for lotion, money for casino chips, etc.) and how "kingdom currency" operates on unfair exchanges.
  • "The kingdom of God always has an unfair exchange. We give him our sin and we get back forgiveness… it’s kind of outrageous." (15:15)
• Examples include trading sorrow for joy and bitterness for breakthrough.

5. Biblical Examples of Outrageous Exchange

• Genesis 22—Abraham and Isaac: “Not enough in our hands is just enough for more than enough in God’s.” (10:03)
• Moses: Left a palace for a promise; exchanged influence for impact. (18:03)
• The Widow in 2 Kings 4: Had to search for something left after loss—she kept “a little jar of oil.” (18:58)
• The Boy’s Lunch in John 6: Five loaves and two fish multiplied for 20,000: “Whenever you take something out of your hands and put it in the hands of Jesus… you’re only could be the next for a multiplication blessing.” (20:15)

6. Sacrifice and Worship—Building Altars (20:32–21:09)

• True worship requires sacrifice: “You cannot call something worship without a sacrifice.” (20:32)
• Urges giving and serving as modern-day altar-building.

7. Obedience Over Understanding (21:09–24:08)

• Points out the irony of Abraham’s promise: called to be a father while childless and elderly.
  • “God is not looking for your opinion. He's only looking for your obedience.” (22:52)

8. Navigating the Season Between Promise and Fulfillment (24:08–26:28)

• The “25 years between a prayer and a promise”—addressing frustration and exhaustion many feel in the waiting place.
  • “Have you ever found yourself stuck in the middle of a mess that could potentially turn into a miracle?” (24:52)
• Authenticity is encouraged: God isn’t afraid of our questions or emotions.

9. Four Exchanges Every Believer Must Make

• a) Altitude for Atmosphere: (26:28–34:02)

  • Don’t chase platforms or positions (altitude); value the presence and atmosphere where God meets with us.
    • “Moriah was never meant to be a mountain, always a meeting place.” (31:41)
    • “If it took God’s presence to get me here, it’ll take God’s presence to keep me here.” (32:32)

• b) Acceleration for Alignment: (34:11–40:53)

  • “Everybody wants to go fast, but you cannot be processed going quickly.”
  • “Abraham saddled a donkey, not a horse or chariot, to go up the mountain”—slow processes develop worshipers and character.
    • “Your gifts can take you where your character won't keep you.” (37:58)
  • Story about his wife Irene being called to ministry during a hard season, emphasizing the importance of alignment with God’s purpose.

• c) Audience for Assignment: (40:53–44:42)

  • Distinguishing between, and sometimes separating from, those in our “audience” and those assigned to go with us.
    • “Some people that are clapping with you won't climb with you. I need some people that'll climb with me.” (44:11)

• d) Altar for Announcement: (44:42–48:02)

  • The real promise comes after sacrificial obedience.
  • “Isaac was never the promise. Isaac was the gift to get to the promise. But the gift had to be willing to be laid down and exchanged.”
  • The “ram caught in the thicket” represents provision that was in place but realized only at the point of surrender.

10. Jubilee Praise—Celebrating Past Deliverances (46:24–49:24)

• The ram's horns become a shofar, signaling victory and freedom.
  • “So what was left behind you was a stunt praise. I triple dog dare you, Social Dallas, to give God some praise from stuff that's behind you.” (47:50)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Kingdom Exchanges:
  • "It's kind of outrageous to me that we give him our sin and we get back forgiveness... we give him sorrow and get joy." — Jimmy Rollins (15:15)
• On the Purpose of Promotion:
  • “Moriah was never meant to be a mountain, always a meeting place.” — Jimmy Rollins (31:41)
• On Slowness and Character:
  • “You cannot be processed going quick. It won’t be worth anything to you if there aren’t some scars.” — Jimmy Rollins (37:58)
• On Real Worship:
  • “You cannot call something worship without a sacrifice.” — Jimmy Rollins (20:32)
• On Who Can Go Up With You:
  • “Some people that are clapping with you won't climb with you.” — Jimmy Rollins (44:11)
• On the Promise:
  • “Isaac was never the promise. Isaac was the gift to get to the promise.” — Jimmy Rollins (45:17)
• On Praise in Retrospect:
  • “So I triple dog dare you…to give God some praise from stuff that's behind you. Praise that he brought you out. Praise that he saved you.” — Jimmy Rollins (47:50)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Honoring Leadership & Trust: 05:19–07:22
• Personal Testimony — Pain & Purpose: 07:34–09:58
• Outrageous Exchange Principle: 09:59–15:48
• Biblical Case Studies of Exchange: 17:57–21:09
• Four Exchanges Believers Must Make: 26:28–48:02
  • Altitude for Atmosphere: 26:28–34:02
  • Acceleration for Alignment: 34:11–40:53
  • Audience for Assignment: 40:53–44:42
  • Altar for Announcement: 44:42–48:02
• Celebrating Deliverance — Shofar Praise: 46:24–49:24
• Altar Call: 51:33–End

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Final Charge & Call to Action

Pastor Taylor, aligning with the message, leads the congregation in prayer and a spontaneous outburst of praise, celebrating freedom and the “outrageous exchange” available to everyone in Christ.
"Father, in Jesus name, I pray right now for everybody…that we would do the outrageous exchange…that our greater days are before us and our worst days are behind us." (50:30)

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Tone and Language

• Equally passionate, humorous, and relatable, blending church culture, personal stories, and scriptural exposition.
• Constant encouragement for active participation, real-life application, and heartfelt worship.
• Frequent use of playful, colloquial language: “touch three people,” “Come on, somebody,” “triple dog dare you.”

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Takeaway

"Outrageous Exchange" challenges listeners to surrender what is precious for God’s greater promise, turn platforms into altars, trade speed for soul-shaping slowness, and worship with everything they have—even in the waiting. The message is a vibrant invitation to step into God’s ongoing, miraculous pattern of radical exchange.

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For full engagement, listen from [04:21] to [51:33]. Skip the initial giving campaign and intro for direct content.

Transcript

[Pastor Robert]

Hey, before we get into today's message, I want to take a moment and personally thank you for being a part of our Social Global family. I am standing in the future home of Social Dallas. Demolition has officially started and every day we are getting closer to making this space a place where thousands of people will encounter Jesus for years to come. If these messages have encouraged you, would you consider partnering with us? Your generosity really does help us continue sharing messages like the one you're about to watch and helps us build a permanent home where lives will be changed forever. Whether it's a one time contribution or becoming a reoccurring partner, every single gift makes impact and every dollar moves dirt. Thank you for believing in what God is doing through Social Dallas. Here's today's mess.

[Pastor Taylor]

To support the Almost home campaign, visit

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

socialdallas.com give and select almost Home from the giving options. Let's change lives together. Thank you for your generosity.

[Worship Leader]

Thank you Lord. Thank you, God. Your presence is here at Texas Trust Theater. I hope you came with some expectation today that God was going to turn some things around in your family, in your marriage, in your children's lives and your minds. That is the reason that we gather. We gather because of Jesus. There's power in that name. There's healing in that name. There's freedom in that name. I could go all day about what happens when we speak that name. I love that name because that name has transformed my life. And we're so glad that today you made it to Social. You could be anywhere on a Sunday, but you're here in this space and we believe that God is going to meet you right where you are. His presence is already here. And so that may be what you're feeling right now. For those of you that are new or maybe not, you know, new to church, you're like, what is that? It's his presence. And we've been praying, we pray consistently for these days when we gather that his presence would show up. This is not built on Robert and Taylor Madu. This is built on Jesus. This is built on the Holy Spirit that is available to you and to me and to you and to you. Social Global watching on the Pando app, Jesus, the spirit of God is available to you. It's going to be a great day. Pastor Mr. Robert is actually, he has a global voice, right? We get to send him out. And so he's not with us today. He's actually preaching at a church called James river in Missouri. And we have a very James River. We love James River. Yay. We have an incredible, incredible guest who's with us for the first time. But he's been a friend to our family for quite some time. And his name is Pastor Jimmy Rollins, and he is a pastor. He's an evangelist, he's a speaker, a marriage coach. Hey, we all need that, right? He's an author. He's a father. His daughter's here today, Kayla. And we celebrate Kayla. And we're so happy that you're in the room today. And God is using their family to truly transform the world. And so, you know, PR never leaves us in bad hands, but only good, good hands. And so he'll be coming to the stage in just one moment. But here at Social Dallas, we come around every year a word and a scripture for the year, and we rehearse it together, declare it out every single Sunday before we get into the Word. And this word is trust. Not just any trust, but confident. Trust. So let's read this out together. Go ahead and put it on the screen. Hebrews, are you ready? You don't go until I say so. So do not throw away this conference. Come on, somebody. Can we give it up for Jesus? And then give it up for Pastor Jimmy Rollins, who's taking the stage?

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

What's going on, Social Dallas? Can we give God some praise in this place? I said, can we give God some praise in this place? Come on. I believe that your worst days are

[Pastor Taylor]

behind you and your best days are in front of you. I believe that you ain't seen nothing yet. Come on, somebody. I believe that no weapon that is formed against you is gonna prosper. This year I'm trusting God. Come on, touch three people. Tell them. This year I'm trusting God. This year I'm trusting God. I'm not trusting my mind. I'm not trusting my past. I'm not trusting my friends. I'm trusting God. I'm not put I trust in a paycheck. I'm trusting God. Come on, somebody. I'm not trusting my looks. I'm not trusting my lineups. I'm not trusting my lashes. Come on, single people. I'm trusting God.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Come on, tell them we about to have church today. Y' all can have your seats.

[Pastor Taylor]

Wow.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

I feel like I'm at home. This looks like the church I pastored years ago. My goodness, y' all have in church. Come on. We got white people, black people, Hispanic people, orange people.

[Pastor Taylor]

Come on, y'.

[Worship Leader]

All.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Short kings in the house. Come on. Come on, ladies. Single people.

[Pastor Taylor]

Y' all like a short king. Don't. Don't don't. Don't look over. Don't look over.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

A short king now. But I'm so honored and blessed to be standing here today. I believe I have a word from the Lord. But before we do that, I want to honor your pastors and just hold your applause for a second. Before this church or the reality of this church became a thing, when it started, I remember sitting across from a table in Jupiter, Florida, with your pastor, Pastor Robert, and he began to talk to me about a vision he had over some meatballs. Come on, somebody. Good Italian food. Come on. Any Italians in the room? Come on. Pomodoro sauce. I'm a big back, so don't. Don't judge me. And it's incredible to see what God has done with trust. You know, oftentimes we look at our gifts and we're like, man, we got gifts, and, yes, we got gifts, but can he trust us with it? And you are a result of trust. You are a result of vision. You are a result of intercession. You are a result of prayer. And what God did is he put you in the hands of Pastor Robert and Taylor. I'm grateful for that. And why I take this moment to honor them is not because this is what guest speakers do, although that's what we do. But honor is the currency of the kingdom. And when we honor somebody, what we're saying is, God, my spirit comes in agreement with your choice. And when my spirit comes in agreement with your choice, that means what's on yalls life? Come on, My life. So can we take about. Come on, somebody, 60 seconds. And honor your pastors. Pastor Robert and Taylor, we love you so much. We're grateful for you. Come on. We can do better than that. Y' all can have your seats. And I also got a picture of my family to honor my. My family, the Rollins Five. And this is us. And that's me in the weird plaid shirt. I was preaching at a white church in Arkansas, so I had to wear that. That's my Beautiful wife of 27 years beside me. Come on, somebody. I know what y' all were thinking. How did she get somebody as good looking as him? I know that's what you were thinking. That's my daughter Maya. She's 21. She's single, but she gonna be Catholic. She's in Bible school in her senior year. That's my daughter Kayla. She works for us full time. She's here with me. She's single, but I got a long application process. Come on. And then that's My son Jaden, he's single, but he ain't all the way saved. So y' all give it up for my family. I'm excited about this word because this one is hot off the presses. Irene and I have been going through a very difficult season over the last three and a half years with Lyme disease that debilitated her. And when we got over that, she got diagnosed this January with a very aggressive form of breast cancer. She just had her last chemo session two weeks ago. And we're believing God for a complete miracle. But it was in the midst of that pain that God began to birth this message that I'm going to preach to you this morning. And I want you to not. I want you to preach it with me, right? And so I want you to out preach me. I want you to come on, somebody. I want you to come on, encourage your neighbor as you. Some of y' all might need to stretch because there might be a praise at the end of this message. I don't need you to pull a muscle. Come on, somebody. In Genesis, chapter 22, it highlights the end of a journey, but the beginning of a breakthrough. It highlights what happens when you have not enough and how not enough can be just enough for more than enough. And it says this in Genesis 29. It highlights the story of Abraham, who is the father of our faith. It says when they arrived at the place where God had told him to go, Abraham didn't build a case. He didn't build up discouragement or resentment or anxiety. He built an altar and arranged the wood on it. Then he tied his son Isaac and laid him on the top of the altar with the wood. And Abraham picked up the knife to kill his son as a sacrifice. And at that moment, the angel of the Lord called from heaven, saying, abraham, Abraham. He said, yeah, homie, here I am. And God then says something very specific to Abraham. Don't lay a hand on the boy. The angel said, do not hurt him in any way. For now I know that you truly fear the Lord. You have not withheld from me even your son, your only son. Then Abraham looked up and saw a ram caught. Somebody say caught by its horns in the thicket. So he took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering in the place of his son. Abraham named the place Yahweh, Yairah, which means, the Lord will provide. Can somebody say, the Lord will provide? And then he says, to this day, people still use that name as a proverb. On this mountain, the Lord will provide. Social Dallas Today I Want to preach to you from this idea, from this thought I believe, from this prophetic declaration. Outrageous exchange. Somebody say outrageous exchange. You see, we as everyday consumers, we interact and transact with everyday exchanges. Come on. When you get up, some of you are ashy, and you exchange your ash for lotion. Come on, somebody. You exchange that bad breath for mint. Come on, somebody. We are making exchanges every single day that we don't even think about. I remember when I was in Bible college, I got a Discover card, 1993. And I remember I didn't know about credit. And so I went and I saw that it had a pin number. Come on, somebody. So I went and got $1,000 cash, 80% interest. I don't know what it was. I didn't know back then. And then my homies was like, yo, pj, you want to go to the casino? Atlantic City. Don't judge me. I'm not. It's under the blood. Some of y' all got under the blood, too. So we went to the casino, and I. I was a big baller. I had this money in my pocket. I had a 1995 Hyundai with five star rims with a homemade kicker box in the back. Bringing. Playing summertime. Y' all know about that. But it's crazy that what was valuable in my hand had no value inside of a different currency system. I had $1,000, but if I was going to transact inside of the casino, I had to exchange what I have for something that was more valuable than

[Pastor Taylor]

I had, that had no value outside

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

of the system it was in. I exchanged that money for coins. I remember some of you got small kids, and you go to Chuck E. Cheese. Come on, somebody. Yeah, you done done it. You done paid about $200 for a $5 teddy bear. You go there and you exchange your money for coins. Come on, somebody. And then your kids get the coins,

[Pastor Taylor]

and they keep playing the game over and over.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

And then the.

[Pastor Taylor]

Come on.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

And then the thing kicks out.

[Pastor Taylor]

Tickets.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

And they go to exchange tickets at a counter, and they.

[Pastor Taylor]

If they don't win, they don't go home.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

You could have bought 10 teddy bears. Kind of an unfair exchange. Maybe some of you have been driving around a car and you want to trade it in for that new car.

[Pastor Taylor]

And you.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

You see that new car. You see that commercial, you want that ev. Somebody. And what happens is you've been riding

[Pastor Taylor]

that car, and you go to that

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

dealership and you go to trade it in, and then they tell you that it's not worth what you thought it Was worth. But you want that thing so bad, you partake in what I call an outrageous exchange. Maybe some of you travel like I do, and you paid all that money for those plane tickets. Come on, somebody.

[Pastor Taylor]

And.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

And what you get back is points that don't equate to the same dollar

[Pastor Taylor]

value of the ticket that you paid for. But you start negotiating with it, maybe it's worth it that I go to Hawaii, although I already paid for it.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

It's kind of an unfair exchange. It's an outrageous exchange. You land in another country and you big balling. Come on. You got about $5 left in your account because you done spent it all trying to get there. And whatever you have worth has no value until you go and exchange in the currency that you're in. I came to preach to you today that the kingdom currency, that the kingdom of God always has an unfair exchange. It's kind of crazy to me that we give him our sin and we get back forgiveness. It's kind of outrageous. Come on, somebody. It's kind of outrageous to me that we give him sorrow and we get joy.

[Pastor Taylor]

It's outrageous to me that we give him bitterness and get back Breakthrough. It's outrageous to me. Come on. That we submit our lives to God and we come out no degree. Come on, somebody. But I got oil on me. Come on, somebody. You give up past opportunities and he anoints your head with oil and your cup begins to run over. It's kind of like an honor. Outrageous exchange. Is there anybody in here that's got a testimony that says I might not be where I want to be, but because of the outrageous exchange. Come on, somebody. I still thank God that I got here. Is there anybody that says. When I look back over my life, I can see that I don't deserve where I am. But there was an outrageous exchange. That God doesn't call those who are qualified. He qualifies those who are called.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

It's an outrageous exchange. The kingdom of God works this way. What is valuable in our hands has to be placed in the hands of God to multiply. God asks us to bring something valuable, a dream, a gift, a promise, a seed into a new building. Oh, y' all about to go to a whole nother level. Something we love and what he asks us to do is lay it on an altar. A relationship. Come on, man of God. You know you out Punish your coverage with that girl you got. You ain't got your line up right. Somebody can't even believe, man, he pulled her. That's an outrageous Exchange. And it's crazy, Pastor Taylor, that we pray for relationships, but then once we

[Pastor Taylor]

get in them, we remove ourselves from

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

the altar, from the sweet spot, from

[Pastor Taylor]

the place of worship where God blessed us. And I came to tell you that God.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

God is still requiring altars.

[Pastor Taylor]

He's asking you to bow down. He's asking you to bow down. I'm telling you right now.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

This is where we find Abraham for Moses. He exchanged a palace for a promise. He exchanged influence for impact. There was a woman in 2nd Kings, chapter 4. Her husband had died. And a prophet comes by her house, Elisha, and says to her, what do you have in your house? God is looking for this exchange in this story. But first she has to go find something that's left. It's amazing to me that when we go through moments when something has died, our hope has died, our courage has

[Pastor Taylor]

died, our expectation has died, that we

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

start looking for the wrong things.

[Pastor Taylor]

But this woman finds all she has

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

is this little jar of oil.

[Pastor Taylor]

I love the fact that she held

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

on to something that God could work with.

[Pastor Taylor]

What are you holding on to that God can work with?

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

There's an outrageous exchange, and she pays off the debts of her sons. In John, chapter six, there's a. A little boy with two fish, four biscuits and an extra one because he's a big bat. They call it the feeding of the 5,000. But back then, in the law there, they didn't count women and children. So there's actually 20,000 people there. And all this boy knows is he's got his lunch packed. He's going to eat halfway through the day. And I don't know if there's 20,000 people. Was this boy 7ft tall? Was he Wimby? Did he have a lot of followers? No. How does he get noticed in a crowd of 20,000 people? Because what was his was a gift for a greater promise. But God had to take it out of his hands and put it in the hands of Jesus. And whenever you take something out of

[Pastor Taylor]

your hands and put it in the hands of Jesus. Come on, somebody. You're only could be the next for a multiplication blessing. But we've been holding on to what God wants, and we realize it doesn't work inside of the kingdom currency. Inside of the kingdom currency.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

You cannot call something worship without a sacrifice. Pastor, want us to give to the building? You're not giving to the building. Somebody gave for the seat you're in today. Somebody prepared the way.

[Pastor Taylor]

Somebody sacrificed. Somebody gave an altar and. How dare you.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Let me tell you like I'm from Baltimore.

[Pastor Taylor]

Don't forget where you came from. If it took an altar to get it, make sure you bow down at an altar so that somebody else can get it. Can I get about 200 people to say, pastor, I know what you're talking about?

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

The kingdom is full of outrageous exchanges. And what seems small, what seems painful, what seems costly in our hands, becomes miraculous when it's placed in the hands of Jesus. This is where we find Abraham. In Genesis 22, I'm talking about Abraham. You know, Sunday school Abraham, Father Abraham. I'm talking about quadruple platinum Abraham. That song outsold everybody. Come on. Many sons have Father Abraham. I am one of them. And so you. So let's just praise the Lord. But it didn't start out with a praise. It started out with a place of sacrifice. By Genesis 22, Abraham has been walking with God for decades. By Genesis 22, God first called Abram back in Genesis 12. And he says, leave your father's house, leave your land, leave everything that. Because I got an exchange for you. Have you ever had a directive from God with no directions? Uh, oh, God, tell me where we going? I can't. You won't exchange your life for it? God, tell me what's next. I can't. Can I tell you, in outrageous exchanges, God is not looking for your opinion. He's only looking for your obedience. He says, give me that, and I got something for you that you can't see. God told him to leave everything. Leave your comfort for a calling. Leave familiarity for faith. Leave certainty for obedience. And then God gave him a promise. You will become the Father of nations. Ironic that God called him to be a father when he can't produce children.

[Pastor Taylor]

Ironic that God called him to be

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

a father with the wife that is barren.

[Pastor Taylor]

It's ironic that God called him to

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

be a father at 99 years old. He's like, I can't take care of these children. But I'm telling you right now, God is not concerned with what you can do. Because when he pours the oil on you, Come on, somebody, what you can

[Pastor Taylor]

do turns into, I got God with me. Come on, somebody. I didn't qualify for this job, but I'm here. Come on, somebody.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

I don't know how I got to

[Pastor Taylor]

this place, but I'm here. My credit score didn't add up, but somehow I got the house. I was sitting in a doctor's office and got a diagnosis, but I went in. Sad, but I came out healed. In the name of Jesus. Is there anybody today that wants an outrageous exchange that says, God, what is it in me that you want me to lay on the altar?

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Every act of obedience becomes an opportunity for worship. 25 years between the promise and the day Isaac was born. 25 years of waiting, 25 years of complaining. 25 years of showing up to church, serving and tithing and reading the Bible plan and quoting our trust word for the year. 25 years, but no fulfillment. Have you ever find or found yourself tired in between a prayer and a promise? Have you ever found yourself stuck in the middle of a mess that could potentially turn into a miracle? I know you came in saved, sanctified, redeemed. Come on, somebody. And you in church saved, saying, hell, lost another one. I am free. But you cussing, come on, under your voice saying, God, if you don't move today, if you don't move this week. Come on, somebody. I don't know.

[Pastor Taylor]

Is there any real people in here that can say, sometimes I get sick and tired of being sick and tired. I don't want to come in church and lie. I'm blessed. God is so good. No, I'm stressed. I'm broken. I'm tired of being single. I'm tired of keeping my purity. God, if you don't move soon, I'm about to lose it all.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Oh, not this section.

[Pastor Taylor]

Is there a real section that might say, pastor, I didn't know we could

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

say that in church.

[Pastor Taylor]

I didn't know that God wasn't scared of our questions. I didn't know that God was okay with my emotions. God says, be angry and sin not. God is okay with your emotions. He's okay with your discouragement. He's okay with your fear. He says, yeah, you might say, pastor, that's not biblical. No, no, no, no, no. He says, come on, come on. That love and fear cannot coexist. But there's one thing about being afraid to do it. And there's another thing called doing it. Afraid. Come on, somebody. I'm gonna give it even though I'm scared. I'm gonna lay it down even though it don't make sense. Cause I want to be in the right.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

You cannot transact in the kingdom of God with a half sacrifice. If it don't cost you something, you can't call it worship. Surrender is the place where exchanges become altars. The passage I read in the beginning highlights the end of the story. But there are several exchanges that took place before the ultimate one. And if you're taking notes, I first want to give you the first exchange. When I read the story of Abraham. And I look at his life, Pastor Taylor. I see that he exchanged altitude for atmospheres. Come on, somebody. Somebody say altitude. Every one of us want to go high. Every one of us want to be elevated. Every one of us wants more followers. All of us want to be noticed. All of us want to be affirmed. But we have to be careful that altitudes don't forsake atmospheres. God tells Abraham here in Genesis 22, verse 1 and 2, sometime later, God tested Abraham's faith. Abraham, he said, yes, here I am. Take your son. Yes, Isaac, your only son. Watch this. Go to a higher altitude. Go to another level. Take this thing how my kids would say it. It's time for a come up. Dad, we about to be up. We've been down a minute.

[Pastor Taylor]

Go to Moriah.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Go and sacrifice Isaac as a burnt offering on one of the mountains. Go to Moriah. The first thing that God tells Abraham is to go to a place called Moriah. This is not random geography. Moriah becomes the most sacred place in the history of Israel. It is the region where Jerusalem would be built. It is the region where the temple would stand. It is the place where the presence of God would dwell amongst his people. It's about atmospheres. What you had in worship this morning was an atmosphere. And that atmosphere is an atmosphere of transformation. That atmosphere is an atmosphere where you can transact with God.

[Pastor Taylor]

That atmosphere. Watch this.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

It's an atmosphere where sickness becomes healing. It's an atmosphere where you came in discouraged, but you leave with confidence. It's an atmosphere that you feel like

[Pastor Taylor]

you got the home field advantage, y'. All. I'm telling you right now, there's nothing like a team having the home field advantage. When you come into corporate worship and the presence of God begins to sit in a place you might was isolated outside the room, but when you get inside the room, you feel like there are more with you than against you.

[Worship Leader]

You.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

And you leave elevated. But what really is atmosphere? What really is altitude? You see, altitude is just elevation. It measures how high you climbed. It says nothing about why you climbed.

[Pastor Taylor]

Altitude is a trap.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Altitude measures my position, but it doesn't measure my purpose. I'm preaching the higher you go in

[Pastor Taylor]

altitude, the thinner the air gets, the colder it gets, the smaller everybody else looks.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

But there's a danger. Altitude is addictive. Followers are addictive. A raise and you got the big house and you done paid off your debt. Come on, 40 years on them school loans and God begins to elevate you. And what happens is he told you to go to Moriah, because I want to meet you there. Moriah was never meant to be a mountain, always a meeting place. So wherever God causes your skills to ascend at a job, to ascend in position to get to a title, to get debt free, it is never about the position of how high you are. There's a purpose for why he elevated you. But we have to be careful not to turn the mountaintop moment

[Pastor Taylor]

into it being about me.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

The mountain was the place where God wanted Abram to bow down, not stand up on it. Uh oh, uh oh, uh oh, uh oh.

[Pastor Taylor]

We gotta. Look at me culture, we gotta.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

I can't wait to post it.

[Pastor Taylor]

Culture ain't prayed about it, ain't praised about it, ain't thank God about it. But we post it because we'd rather have the praise from people than to give God back what only he gave me in the first time. God, don't brag on yourself on the mountain, brag on Jesus and say, God, we overcome by the blood of the lamb and the word of my testimony. God, I shouldn't be here, but I'm here. I shouldn't have be in my right mind, but I am.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

We gotta exchange altitudes for atmospheres. I have decided this in my life that if it took God's presence to get me there, it takes God's presence to keep me there. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry, you wanted a cute word? No, you are set apart. It won't work. Matter of fact, I started praying a prayer over my adult children. 21, 23 and 25. God, everything that's not ordained for their life or purposed for their life frustrate a minute. God, I pray that you set them apart like you set apart. Come on.

[Pastor Taylor]

Jeremiah and Jeremiah, chapter one. First vibe. God, even though they good looking. Come on, somebody let the guy that's trying to pull up say, no. Let them say no. Let them find my girls ugly. Let them find. I don't want nothing but your purpose. I don't want nothing but your presence. Because I'm not gonna turn a meeting place into a mountain. Can I get about 300 people to stand on their feet and give God a spirit shout that says, God, you got me here. And if it took your presence to get me here, it's going to take

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

your presence to keep me here. Number two, number two, number two,

[Worship Leader]

we

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

have to exchange altitude for atmospheres. Number two, we have to exchange acceleration for alignment. Somebody say acceleration for alignment. God, when we gonna get the building? Man, I wish. I ain't coming to church because we got. Parking is hard. Been saved two days. God, I want a million dollars. Acceleration. Everybody want to go fast. Why haven't Pastor Robert and Taylor gave him me a title yet? I don't know. They don't know you. You're not aligned. Because what we have found out in 25 years of ministry that if you so focused on a title, you gonna lay down your to.

[Pastor Taylor]

No.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

I need some people that will say, I'll serve. When I got the title, I'll serve. Come on, somebody.

[Pastor Taylor]

When I don't, I'll park cars, I'll feed babies, whatever you need me to do. I don't need a microphone because I'm creating an atmosphere for other people to come into the presence of God.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Acceleration for alignment. In Genesis 22, verse 3, it says the next morning, after Abraham got this instruction from God, he got up early. He saddled his donkey. He saddled his donkey. He saddled his donkey and took two of his servants with him, along with his son Isaac. He didn't saddle a Lamborghini. He didn't saddle a Porsche. Abraham was one of the richest men ever. He had dozens of horses that could have taken him up the mountain quicker. But he saddled a donkey. He made an immediate decision and yielded to a slow process. I gotta take my jacket off. Everybody want to get there fast. Everybody want the promotion quick. Everybody wants the relationship fast. Everybody want.

[Pastor Taylor]

Come on.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

The breakthrough quick.

[Pastor Taylor]

But that joker got a destiny from God. He got declared what his next level was going to be.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

He made an immediate decision by donkey.

[Pastor Taylor]

I have come to discover 25 years that a donkey is the way. It's the best way to get there because you cannot be processed going quick. You cannot be processed getting it fast. It will be. It won't be worth anything to you if there's not some scars. It won't be worth anything to you if there's not some injuries. It won't be worth anything to you if in the slow process, you become a worshiper. It's in the slow process that you bow down. It's in the slow process where you're not building mountains, you're building all altars. It's in the slow process where you learn how to take a licking and keep on ticking. A donkey goes two or three miles an hour. Come on, somebody, breakthrough. Slow joy. Slow Long suffering. Slow anointing. Slow. Matter of fact, the Bible says that on the day of Passover that Jesus was about to ascend on the cross. And what did he take? He got on a donkey and he walked in slow. Everybody recognized I'm about to be your savior. Everybody recognize I'm about to redeem you. Bye, donkey. Touch three people and tell them, bye, donkey. By donkey, by donkey. Don't get it fast, because your gifts can take you where your character will keep you. It takes slow to have character. It takes slow to have integrity.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

It takes slow. I gotta be aligned, man. When I'm aligned, I don't lose focus. When I'm aligned, temptation doesn't misdirect my path. When I'm aligned, I say no to things. I used to say yes with. I'm telling you right now, David on the top of that roof. When he failed with Bathsheba, he didn't have a temptation issue. He had a location issue. Because he wasn't aligned with his purpose. He was born to fight. He was born. Come on, somebody.

[Pastor Taylor]

He was a worshiper and a battler. He wasn't supposed to stand. Stay home. You see, when you align, you show up every Sunday. When you align, just serve. When you align, you don't wait to get to worship to come on. On a Sunday. You worship on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. When you align. Come on, somebody. Because we're not trying to lead people worship team to a place we have not been. I got to be alive.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Sit down, sit down. I gotta finish. I came to preach to you. I want to tell you why it's taking so long. My wife struggled with Lyme disease. She's the breadwinner. I had planned on being a stay at home husband. She preached. That woman evolved. Two years ago in front of 48,000 women, y', all, I had a dream, and I remember when Sarah called her and said, hey, will you show up and preach? And she says, I can't. I have no energy. I have Lyme disease. I'm scared I'm gonna forget. Her brain is like dementia.

[Pastor Taylor]

Like, she.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

She remembers some things sometimes and she doesn't remember. Her hair had started falling out. She couldn't sleep. And Sarah said, listen, this is not about an assignment. This is about alignment. I really need you to come because your testimony, y'. All, I've been in full time ministry for 25 years. And this November coming up, Irene is going to celebrate 12 years of sobriety.

[Pastor Taylor]

And Sarah wanted. Come on, somebody. Sarah wanted Irene to tell her story because y' all know the word testimony. It also means do it again. That's why you have to put down shame and pick up your voice and says, no, I'm aligned. I'm aligned with My future, I'm aligned with my purpose.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

The next one.

[Pastor Robert]

Now.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Let me stay here for a second. No, no, no. The next one. Exchange audiences for assignment. Oh, what I'm gonna do with these friends? What I'm gonna do with this circle? What I'm gonna do with these people? What I'm gonna do with these followers? If the first thing you look at in the morning is your phone, you're not following Christ. You're following your followers that you're supposed to be leading. I'm sorry, I'm not. I'm from Baltimore. I ain't scared of none of y'.

[Worship Leader]

All.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

And if not, security got me in the bag. Listen to this. In Genesis 22, verse 5. Almost done. He said, stay here with the donkey. Abraham told the servants, watch this. The boy and I, we got to go up this mountain by ourselves. I'm paraphrasing. Read it later. Pastor Taylor. I wondered when I read this, where is Sarah? Why hasn't God talked to Sarah? Now I got a wife with three kids, and she love them babies. They grown, but she sending them doordash. They grown, but she paid a cell phone bill. Then they don't answer the phone when I call. I can't touch them babies. Where is Sarah in the story? Why isn't Sarah not going up the mountain? Why are the servants not going up the mountain?

[Pastor Taylor]

Why?

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

I tell you why. I used to be a football coach, and my son played pee wee football. And I was the coach, so he was the quarterback. We were in a championship game, and he ran around the end and got hit the hardest I've ever seen. And my wife ran out on the field.

[Worship Leader]

Field.

[Pastor Taylor]

Jumped the fence, went through security to get to her baby. Come on, somebody. She had every. Y' all know women. Y' all got everything in your purse. She pulled out ointment, she pulled out lotion. She pulled out band aids. Come on, somebody. She. She squirted something on her. Like, what's that? You know, she had all the things

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

I'm saying, he gotta get back. I didn't see my son. I saw a championship. I'm like, that boy gotta play. She goes, he's never playing football again. I think the reason why the servants and Sarah couldn't go, because she saw a son, but Abraham saw a seed. He knew that this one sacrificed

[Pastor Robert]

would

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

be the many for nations. If Sarah went, no, Father Abraham. If the servants went. The servants are thinking like, man, don't lay him down because he supports me. You got some people in your circle that don't Want to see you have a come up because they like you

[Pastor Taylor]

at the level that you were at.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Right now, I'm preaching right here.

[Pastor Taylor]

And so I'm telling you right now, what God has for you, everybody can't go. What God has for you, everybody can't. Y' all don't hear what I'm saying right now. Some people that are clapping with you won't climb with you. I need some people that'll climb with me. I need some people that'll pray for me. I need some people that will call me out. Come on. Look at the person next to you says, I see you clapping, but can you climb? Can you pray? Can you worship?

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Let me get out of here. You gotta trade the audience for an assignment number four and I'm out your way. Abraham exchanged an altar for an announcement. It says in Genesis 22, when they arrived at the place where he told them to go, Abraham built an altar. He put the wood on it. Y' all remember the scripture. And he went to kill Isaac. And angel said, no, wait, I was just playing

[Pastor Taylor]

all that.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

And you was just playing. He says, no, you have no idea. That promise that I gave you in Genesis 12, it took this outrageous exchange to make it happen. The Bible says that Abraham was tested and God saw him faithful. The problem with us is, is we look at a gift and we call it a promise. Isaac was never the promise. Isaac was the gift to get to the promise.

[Pastor Taylor]

But the gift had to be willing to be laid down and exchanged in order. Come on, somebody. For the promise to happen. So what happens is God says, you have proved yourself.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Now look back behind you. Something is caught. There was a ram caught in a bush behind him. Now you say, pastor, why is the ram caught behind him? I don't know about you, but if God tells me to look behind me on a path and direction that he

[Pastor Taylor]

sent me to get here, it means I missed. I didn't catch something that was behind me. Y' all don't hear what I'm saying. That means when God said, look behind me, that ram was there all the time. But it was stuck in another season. Y' all don't hear what I'm saying. It was stuck. And Pastor Taylor, when I looked over the scripture, every time God gave Abraham a direction, I don't see him praise God after he was obedient. But this time, what was caught was a ram. The Bible says that the ram was the sacrifice replacement of Isaac. And the only thing left after a ram is sacrificed are the horns. That ram was caught by the horn. Horns. The horns are the shofar. Y' all don't hear what I'm saying. The shofar was a trumpet and an instrument that at the year of jubilee that everybody's chains were loose. So what was left behind you was a stunt. Praise. So I triple dog dare you, Social Dallas, to give God some praise from stuff that's behind you. Give God some praise that he brought you out. Give God some praise that he saved you. Give God some praise.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

The Bible says that he named the place Yahweh. Yah, which means the Lord will provide. How does he know? Because he forgot that the Lord had already provided on the way there. Some of you got a court praise and something that you got over, but

[Pastor Taylor]

you ain't all the way got through. And right now, I'm telling you right now, the Bible says that the greatest exchange that ever happened happened was on the third day. Ah, when Jesus went to hell and got the keys to the kingdom and he snatched the keys back from the devil. So I came to tell you, Social Dallas, if the devil ain't got keys to his house, it's time for you to give him an eviction notice to get out of your house. This praise that you about to give, say, devil, you are under my feet. Feet. Somebody needs to say, devil, you should have took me out yesterday because in the midst of my pain was a card.

[Worship Leader]

Praise.

[Pastor Taylor]

I triple dog dare you to praise God. Like it don't make.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Ah. Can I tell you I see Abraham's praise, man. What was Isaac's praise? He probably said, I'm free. Praise the Lord.

[Pastor Taylor]

I'm free.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

No longer bound. No more chains holding me. My soul is resting. It's such a blessing. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. I'm free.

[Pastor Taylor]

Abraham says, no, that's not enough.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

I think I need more.

[Pastor Taylor]

He says, I'm free. Praise the Lord. I'm free. Come on. No longer power. Where y' all at? No more chains holding me. My soul is resting. It's such a blessing. Where y' all at? Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Y' all ain't doing it enough.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

Maybe you gotta do this.

[Pastor Taylor]

Hell lost another one.

[Pastor Jimmy Rollins]

I am free.

[Pastor Taylor]

I am free. I am hell lost. Come on, Father. In Jesus name, I pray right now for everybody under the sound of my voice, God, that we would do the outrageous exchange in the name of Jesus. Jesus. I pray from this day forward, God, that our greater days are before us and our worst days are behind us. God, we taking this thing to a whole another level.

[Worship Leader]

Come on.

[Pastor Taylor]

If you Know that you know that you've been set free in the villy today. That you once were dead, but now you're alive. That you were once blind but now you can see that once you're lame, but now he picks you up, he turns you around, he puts your feet back on the solid ground. Can you make some noise one time for the great. I am the King of kings and the Lord of Lords.

[Social Dallas Host]

Man. Can we just thank Pastor Jimmy for that amazing message? But I don't want to move too quickly past something because we always want to give people the opportunity to say yes to Jesus. And something that Pastor Jimmy talked about in the beginning of his message is that exchange that happens when we give our sins to the Lord and we get freedom, we get salvation. And so if you're in the room this morning and you just recognize that, man, I haven't even made that first oh so important exchange of giving my life to him, giving my sins to him, and saying, lord, I'm giving you what I have and I'm receiving what you have for me. We want to give you the opportunity to do that. So every single person, if you would bow your head and close your eyes. If you're in the room today and your heart feels so tugged upon, and you know I need to take that from first step, would you just. All over the building, wherever you are, lift your hand high enough and long enough. We want to see you, we want to recognize it. We see hands. Come on. All over the building. All over the building. Come on. Lift it up high. There's more in the room today. There's more in the room today. And we're going to pray together as a family and walk through this because you are in a room full of people who have made this decision to give their life to Jesus. So say, lord, I need you. Take my life, my sin, my shame, my chains, and I receive what you've given me. Salvation, freedom, future and a home. All the days in my life. From this day forward, it's me and you. Take me by the hand and lead me into your arms. In Jesus mighty name. Come on. And everybody said, can we celebrate every single hand that went up in the room this morning? To every single person who lifted their hands, I want to say this. We love you.