Soder Podcast Ep. 119: "Camp Counselor" with Bert Kreischer

Host: Dan Soder
Guest: Bert Kreischer
Release Date: February 3, 2026

Overview

This episode features comedian Bert Kreischer joining Dan Soder for a candid, hilarious, and deeply insightful conversation about stand-up comedy’s evolution, burnout, luck versus hard work in showbiz, and wild stories from the road. The pair cover everything from owning their career choices, the costs of relentless content creation, nostalgia for summer camp, to honest reflections on personal health, family, and the hidden demands of comedy fame—all peppered with trademark ball-busting and storytelling.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Red Rocks & Comedy Milestones

• Bert's Red Rocks Shows:

  • Bert shares that his most recent Red Rocks performance was his favorite, as he had more prepared material and a stronger hour compared to past appearances, which often coincided with the start of tour routing and less-polished sets.

    "The last one was my favorite because I had more material prepared... my hour was further along." – Bert (02:28)

• Dan’s Childhood at Red Rocks:

  • Dan recalls going to Easter sunrise services as a kid, hating the early wake-ups and cold weather, adding, “But little me is like, yo, this shit sucks.” (03:10)

• Hanging or Leaving Fast:

  • Bert recounts how some acts (like Sebastian Maniscalco) would immediately leave after performing, but Bert loves to hang out, even if it means staying until late at night to soak in the moment.

• Meeting Jimmy Buffett:

  • Bert and Dan both riff on their Jimmy Buffett heroes:

    “If you could give a brand to me, I would love that Jimmy Buffett brand... it’s not who I am, really.” – Bert (04:36)

2. Licensing Stories & Margaritaville

• A Comedic Licensing Saga:

  • Dan tells the detailed story about trying to license "Margaritaville" for his HBO special as a tribute to his late father, only to be turned down because Jimmy Buffett didn't want his song associated with alcoholism:

    “I just watched this bit. Absolutely not. Jimmy doesn't want to be associated with alcoholism. And I went, motherfucker! ...You're the Pied Piper of cirrhosis.” – Dan (08:42)

• Audiences learn about the real costs ($150,000 for a song), and how comics' personal stories intersect with the business.

3. Comedy Specials & the Era of Content Overload

• Explosion of Specials:

  • The hosts reflect on the rapid escalation of comedy specials—from years with only a handful released to today's abundance.

    “When I did Secret Time, Netflix put out, I think, 40 specials... and that was a lot.” – Bert (11:28)

• Advice to Young Comics:

  • Both urge newer comics to "hold it"—don’t rush taping specials until material is truly great:

    “Let it get really, really good. That’s the problem...” – Bert (12:03)

  • They admit to regretting earlier specials that didn’t reflect their best (Dan: "I regret doing anything except the HBO special and my YouTube one that we put out in 2024." – 12:38).

• Value of Peer Recognition:

  • Bert emphasizes, “You want other comics to be talking about how good you’re getting... hold off on your special if you don’t have that.” (13:07)

4. Money, Podcasting, and the Burnout Machine

• Ad Money & Relentless Schedule:

  • Bert breaks down how the shift in podcast revenue structures led comics into never-ending content creation, often at the expense of quality or sanity:

    “In order to do ad sales, you have to commit to every single week... if you’re a fucking idiot and you decided to have three podcasts...” – Bert (16:13)

• Burnout and Taking Breaks:

  • Both reveal taking forced and voluntary breaks (esp. during Covid) saved them from professional and creative exhaustion. Bert credits his wife for forcing him to step back:

    “Leanne made me take a year and a half off stand up.” – Bert (21:19)

• Repetitive Material & Format Creep:

  • Discussion of how content volume leads to formulaic material or loss of joy.

5. Crowd Work, Online Clips & Staying in Your Lane

• The Crowd Work Boom:
  • Nuanced takes on the crowd work explosion, praising talents like Big Jay, Stavros, Norman, Sam Morril, while noting that constant content chasing strains creativity:

    "They're in this race to put out a clip a day." – Dan (21:02)

6. Personal Health, Death Fears & Living Large

• Bert’s Health Scares:

  • Both openly share fears around dying young, family impact, and the public’s merciless reaction to a performer's death:

    "My fear is that they’re gonna go, your liver failed. And then everyone goes, well, you saw that coming.” – Bert (33:24)

• Dying with Dignity:

  • The guys riff on how they'd ideally like to go out—heroically, with Bert quipping:

    “Rescuing kids... but someone's filming it. I need it filmed.” – Bert (31:56)

7. Luck, Merit, and Showbiz Mythology

• The Role of Luck:

  • Bert tells the infamous "Kevin Hart's lucky" take, digging into candid conversations about how nearly every comic's breakthrough traces back to a single, often lucky, moment—whether viral stories, infamous altercations, or simple right-place-right-time situations:

    “Every comic has one lucky moment in life that changes their life...” – Bert (38:54)

• Humility in Success:

  • The need for successful comics to acknowledge luck to avoid arrogance:

    “It’s important... to show humility so they don’t think they’re bigger than their success.” – Dan (40:27)

8. Comedy Community, Mentors and Tribes

• Community Bonds:

  • Both cite their love of the comedy “tribe,” fondly remembering road stories, green-room hangs, New York’s vibrant scene, and the generational connection between comics:

    “It's all come back down to middle school and getting girls. If you don’t want them, they want you.” – Dan (51:13)

• Podcasting Shift:

  • Honest talk about how podcasting “feels different” now—less genuine, more transactional, as success brings changed dynamics and higher stakes:

    “Now when you bring someone to that house... people come in the first thing, they’re like, how did you get this?” – Bert (54:36)

• Camp Counselor Energy:

  • Dan pitches Bert as the archetype of ultimate camp counselor, referencing Bert’s Pied Piper charisma and love of building “camp” energy on tours and sets (56:52–63:51).

    “You would be the greatest camp counselor of all time.” – Dan (56:52)

9. Arenas, Theaters, and The Climb

• Different Stages, Different Rewards:

  • Insights into how comics appreciate varied venues, the unique stresses of arenas, and why sometimes stepping “down” to theaters delivers better work and more fun.

    “Arenas are so easy... but after doing the theaters... my act needs theaters.” – Bert (86:15)

• Soaking it In:

  • Both stress gratitude and savoring career moments over chasing perpetual “nexts.”

    “What’s next? Look what you’ve got to do... and enjoy that.” – Dan (85:00)

10. Anecdotes, Relationships & Inside Baseball

• Elevator with the Broncos:

  • Dan tells a hilarious, vividly-detailed story about accidentally getting high with an NFL coach’s son and sharing an awkward elevator ride with Shannon Sharpe—who totally knew he was stoned (47:00–49:00).

• Comedic Tribal Knowledge:

  • Discussion of comics’ tendency to critique and “have notes” on each other’s work, reinforcing a fiercely competitive—but loving—environment.

• Career Crossroads:

  • Dan credits Bert and Bill Burr’s advice for helping him leave his comfort zone (The Bonfire radio show) and focus on stand-up.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On creative output & quality:
  “You want other comics to be talking about how good you’re getting... hold off on your special if you don’t have that.”
  —Bert Kreischer (13:07)

• On burnout & money:
  “In order to do ad sales, you have to commit to every single week... if you’re a fucking idiot and you decided to have three podcasts...”
  —Bert Kreischer (16:13)

• On luck & humility:
  “Every comic has one lucky moment in life that changes their life... If you don’t acknowledge your luck...”—Bert Kreischer (38:54)

• On content overload:
  “The art of going away is gone.”
  —Dan Soder (13:32)

• On camp counselor life:
  “I like being a Pied Piper... I like being the momentum.”
  —Bert Kreischer (57:48)

• On peak moments:
  “What’s next? Look what you’ve got to do... and enjoy that.”
  —Dan Soder (85:00)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | | --------- | -------------- | | 02:11 | Red Rocks shows & comedy milestones | | 04:49 | Margaritaville licensing story | | 11:03 | Evolution of comedy specials | | 13:07 | Peer validation & advice for young comics | | 16:13 | Podcast money & burnout | | 21:14 | Taking a break and refreshing material | | 38:54 | Luck in comedy careers | | 47:00 | Dan’s elevator story with Shannon Sharpe | | 54:36 | Podcasting's change and authenticity | | 56:52 | Bert’s camp counselor, Pied Piper energy | | 62:09 | Family bonds—comics as uncles | | 72:11 | Bert & Dan’s mutual admiration (Sherpa analogy) | | 85:00 | Reflecting on success and savoring moments | | 86:15 | Clubs vs. theaters vs. arenas |

Overall Tone & Style

The episode stays true to Dan and Bert's styles—irreverent, raucous, vulnerable but never saccharine. Their chemistry delivers as both comics and friends: trading war wounds, nostalgia, advice for up-and-comers, and a hilarious parade of inside-baseball (and inside-barbecue) stories. The conversation is loose yet rich with hard-earned wisdom, with moments of both bravado and honest questioning about what really matters in a comedy life.

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