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Dan St. Germain
Points Cap apply hey everybody. I hope you enjoy this episode with one of the funniest human beings on the planet, Eddie Pepitone. He's the man. Make sure you watch his special on YouTube and come see me on the road. Texas, Oklahoma I'm coming to see you enjoy this episode with Eddie Pepitone. And maybe while you're listening and you live in Dallas, Houston or Oklahoma City, you buy tickets. Dallas is close to sold out. That's March 19th. March 20th I'm going to be in Houston, Texas. Houston, come and see me. I know I said the name of the venue wrong and they got mad because it's the Cullen Performance Hall. So I'm sorry if this is why you're not buying tickets. Houston, I apologize. I was wrong. It's the Cullen Performance Hall. Come see me at the Cullen Performance Hall. If you're mad at how I'm saying it or anything, I promise I will correct my behavior. But go to danceoder.com I'm going to be in Houston March 20th and then Oklahoma City March 21st. Bring in Matt Ross and Brendan Sagalo. It's going to be a hell of a show. You got the band back together, baby. Oklahoma City I'm going to be at the Tower Theater March 21st. Dance Otter.com buy tickets and I'll see you out on the road. Golden Retriever of Comedy Tour Almost done. There's only a few weeks left before we film this, so come and check out one of the shows. Dancehoter.com Full listings for all the dates. I love you. Enjoy the podcast. I'm sorry if I interrupt. I promise I'm trying to work on it. I just get so excited. First time I I got to like really watch you do a set was at the Old Creek in the Cave on like a Wednesday night for like maybe 12 people on this show. Rebecca Trent used to produce called Monsters, I think so and you just talked about the Pulaski Bridge for 15 minutes. It was one of my favorite sets I've ever seen in my life. And now I know what the Pulaski Bridge is. I used to cross that bridge all the time. And I was always like, it's the bridge that goes between Queens and Brooklyn. And you were like, this is where comedy lives, at the foot of the Pulaski Bridge.
Eddie Pepitone
Well, you know what it's like? It's like when you're up there, you're, like, trying to find that vein of something that inspires you to be funny. And I think that night, I just love the name Pulaski. And that bridge. I had never been to that. To Rebecca's place over there. And that bridge is so kind of ominous. It's right across the street. It's this huge steel structure.
Dan St. Germain
And it also isn't sexy. Like, a lot of the bridges in New York, Brooklyn, Manhattan, you have all. The Williamsburg Bridge, they have all this, like, Pulaski Bridge is like, this is very necessary. So you don't get. It's a very, like, inner borough bridge where it's. You almost don't even realize you're going Queens to Brooklyn. And then you're like, oh, yeah, I guess I did just cross over.
Eddie Pepitone
How did we just go into Queens? I don't know.
Dan St. Germain
I don't know. It looks all the same. You grew up in Brooklyn?
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah, I grew up in Brooklyn till I was nine. I. I grew up in Brooklyn enough to get traumatized by. By different things, man.
Dan St. Germain
Well, I mean, crime or what traumatized you?
Eddie Pepitone
A little bit of crime, yeah. You know, I was. I was threatened as a child. My parents would do that. My parents threatened me.
Dan St. Germain
So you can take the New York energy anywhere. I wasn't raised in Brooklyn, but my parents brought the Brooklyn energy to Iowa when they told me they would cut my feet off if I talked to the cops.
Eddie Pepitone
Did you see any. I'm thinking of this because I was watching last night. Did you. You see any of the Scorsese documentary yet? No, it's on Apple tv.
Dan St. Germain
What's screwing me up about Scorsese right now? Yeah, he's do. His daughter is doing social media content with him. And it feels like when they made. Do you know at the end where they. Where they made Jake LaMotta perform or what they're doing right now with Enraging Bull. Yeah. No, but at the end where he would do those live shows and he was doing like. Yeah, he was doing.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, no, don't tell me it seems like that.
Dan St. Germain
That's what it feels like. I, like, I don't really know if Marty knows what's going on, where she'll be like, we're doing an Internet trend. And he'll be like, and his daughter's way younger than him, you know, because he had a. He had her as an old dad.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, man, this. You know, these big guys who try to take their family along.
Dan St. Germain
You're making me feel crazy. Just say it's nepotism and then I'll get over it faster. Right. I'll go, hey, it's nice to be born into a family like. Like the Vanderbilts or the Rockefellers weren't going to. It's not nepotism. My son's taking over the company because he did very well.
Eddie Pepitone
Look, Standard Oil would have went to someone just like him. My son.
Dan St. Germain
I wasn't going to give it to. Rockefeller just happens to be the same last name.
Eddie Pepitone
We took a lot of applications, and My son, John Jr. Just happened to be the best fitting.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, it's. That's. That's the part that I don't. That's the disconnect between famous people in reality, where you go, just admit it, and then we can get over it. It was like when Liberace came out.
Eddie Pepitone
Don't talk to me about Liberace.
Dan St. Germain
I mean, it was funny. My grandma, like, thought Liberace was straight until, like, the 80s, of course. You know what I mean?
Eddie Pepitone
I recently watched again, Good night and good Luck.
Dan St. Germain
Oh, yeah, that would. R. Murrow. Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
With Edwin R. Murrow. And he interviewed Liberace, and he was like, ed, I. He. Something. The question was something like, are you thinking of settling down? Getting married? He was like, ed, maybe I'm too much of a perfectionist, but I'm just looking for the right woman.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. You know. Sure. A woman that's a man. It was the. It's the same with, like, Clark Gable used to live with this other Hollywood star, and it was clear that they were gay and in love. And you look at their pictures, and it just recently came up on the Internet that I saw in this subreddit. Old school.
Eddie Pepitone
Cool.
Dan St. Germain
They show pictures of, like, old stuff, and it was a magazine spread, and it was like, join Clark Gable. And I forget who the other guy is as they show you their bachelor pad. And they're, like, at the pool sunning, and they're like, they're sunning. Look, they play chess. Oh, they have a dog together. It's like they're a gay couple.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah.
Dan St. Germain
And Then they were like. And then people in the comments were like, it's actually a very sad story. Like they were in love.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah.
Dan St. Germain
And the studio was like, hey, you cannot be seen with him.
Eddie Pepitone
Right.
Dan St. Germain
And that's when it's sad. But you're like, right? It fooled people.
Eddie Pepitone
Absolutely. People weren't that savvy. Unless you were a jazz musician back then.
Dan St. Germain
There he goes, baby. They sucking each other.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah, right.
Dan St. Germain
That's what it is, honey. I'm gonna tell you right now. They play each other like trombone and they're like, oh, stop it, would you leave me alone. Stray Cat Allen. Or they have a jazz name.
Eddie Pepitone
They always knew what was happening, the jazz guys.
Dan St. Germain
Why was that? Was it because they were just out performing in nightclubs?
Eddie Pepitone
I think so. And they were smoking weed and like,
Dan St. Germain
they were the fringe of society.
Eddie Pepitone
I, I don't really know, Dan. I, I just threw that out there. I didn't know I was gonna get grilled on lick.
Dan St. Germain
I don't know.
Eddie Pepitone
Why is it with the jazz people?
Dan St. Germain
This is what you get for talking to somebody that's a life time pothead is you get lifetime pothead questions where you go, why is that? I never thought about that. But yeah, I mean, those like Liberace coming out, I almost want to do research on it because he did come out. Can you look that up? I want to see if Liberace actually was like, by the way, hello gay.
Eddie Pepitone
All these candelabras are for a reason.
Dan St. Germain
I like to see. I like to light pussy. Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
He came out on Theo Vaughan's podcast. Right.
Dan St. Germain
That's what it was like. He's like, man, that makes a lot of sense. You sucking and fucking. I have a friend named straight Liberace. He just wears a lot of diamonds. Liberace never officially came out as gay. Publicly denied his homosexuality until he died of AIDS related pneumonia in February of 87. Man. AIDS was like, if you guys aren't going to say it, I'm going to say it. AIDS. That's what AIDS did in the 80s. It went, hell, yeah. Too many are keeping a secret.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah, yeah. AIDS was like the Great Liberator.
Dan St. Germain
Well, it's what's, you know, my family's from San Francisco and they would almost talk about it like an army, like an army invaded San Francisco. Where they'd be like, well then 80s, you know, in the 80s with AIDS. And you're like, yeah. You guys had so many bath houses. It was probably the bathhouses. The bathhouse industry took a beating.
Eddie Pepitone
It did.
Dan St. Germain
Because of aids.
Eddie Pepitone
It Did I? Yeah. I never got to the bath houses.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
Like, I still have friends who tell me. Not kidding. Who tell me to go to the. A Turkish bath.
Dan St. Germain
Oh, the Russian bathroom.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah. They say it, you know, it's great. Like, it gets all the toxins out.
Dan St. Germain
I'm not trying to sleep with you. I'm not. I'm not trying to play with your penis. You get the. Out of my face with that. And they go, all right. It's funny. As if you do take that stance, you just look incredibly homophobic. We're like, I'm not going to the bath house. Like, it's a soak. Your skin, it's.
Eddie Pepitone
They call it a soak.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
They have one word descriptions of it.
Dan St. Germain
But you. You said you grew up in Brooklyn until you were nine and you were heavily traumatized.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, you know. Yeah. I mean, I. I'm thinking of the Scorsese thing because he. I kind of understand him now. I've watched three episodes of this doc, and I always was, like, a little critical because I'm an of Scorsese. Violent, like just incredible violence. And then I. After watching this, he. He witnessed it.
Dan St. Germain
Oh, really?
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah. And his. His. You know, the neighborhood he grew up in, he grew up in Martin Mulberry. He had a. He had an uncle who was in the mob. Like, it was right there in his face. You know, he grew up with tough kids. You know, he was an asthmatic who.
Dan St. Germain
Which, by the way, back then. Good luck.
Eddie Pepitone
Not good.
Dan St. Germain
I thought you were defective.
Eddie Pepitone
Yes.
Dan St. Germain
Like, I grew up in the 80s and 90s. And if you had an inhaler, then everyone was like, what the is wrong with you? You're asthmatic. But imagine in this.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah. 50s and 60s, oh, my God.
Dan St. Germain
Growing up, and people are like, marty can't breathe. And he's like, please stop killing people in front of me.
Eddie Pepitone
So what he did, because he really couldn't go out much because of his condition. He would just look through his window, and he had a bunch of windows, and they were saying it was like frames in a film.
Dan St. Germain
Holy shit.
Eddie Pepitone
So he was just groomed because of his asthma. Spike Lee was interviewed. He said, thank God for asthma. We got one of the best filmmakers ever. So.
Dan St. Germain
But that's. That's always the thing with. I was obsessed with biographies for a long time because you always see, like a through line of something that. Where you go, oh, it was their weakness, and then they made it their strength.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah.
Dan St. Germain
It's like Scorsese trapped inside. But then we get Goodfellas raging Bull. We get Casino. Because he watched all that.
Eddie Pepitone
Exactly. Watch that. And. And I know it too, from. From just having great fear locked up in me. And comedy is such a great way to get it out, I think. I don't know about you, but cathartic. It's a cathartic thing.
Dan St. Germain
Sometimes when you say something that you think only you feel and you feel insecure for feeling it, and the first time you say it in a joke and more than one person laughs, you go like, yeah, holy shit. All right, maybe. Maybe I'm not completely alone in this.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, exactly.
Dan St. Germain
And yeah, that's always the thing I've always loved about comedy. I can talk about something that used to traumatize me and now I can make fun of it. And people go like, great, that.
Eddie Pepitone
Actually, I realize that that's the deal. Like, if you can really be honest about your shit, then people like, like, oh, thanks, man. Like, I get a lot of thanks, man. You really helped me through the pandemic. I'm like, really?
Dan St. Germain
Well, because you do. What I love about you is you come in with this energy of like, I, like, I can relate to feeling it even if I don't express it. I mean, the way your last special starts with just the Apple watch collapse.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, yeah.
Dan St. Germain
Where you just like immediately go into it and you're like, what kind of fucking data do you want from me? Like, I am fall. I did fall. I'm falling. Emotionally, I'm falling.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah, it's not a fall. It's one long descent into hell.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, exactly. And that's what I think is like, it's. Yeah, it's when. When someone says that you can feel anxiety and not know that you're feeling it. And then someone can say something that you go, that is what I'm feeling. I feel fucking crazy right now. Especially them monitoring everything.
Eddie Pepitone
Everything now is like going off the rails, dude.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, this is why I was saying, you know, it was a joke that I did, but I don't really know if I'm going to keep doing it on stage. But I was like, I, for the first time in my life, identify with people who are anti trans because a lot of these anti trans people are like, don't give kids chemicals. You shouldn't let. And I, you know, I'm a pretty compassionate person where I go, I think they should let their lives. But the reason I feel that way is because they're starting to give fat kids ozempic. And I go, yeah. And I go, don't do that. We need our fat Kids, we need our funny people. You're, you're, you're. The pharmaceutical industry is going to take away our charming, sweet, and funny people. You need four kids.
Eddie Pepitone
Or we need our. Another angle is we need our scapegoats. We need certain people to be fat so we can feel better about ourselves. You know, that's something.
Dan St. Germain
Also, I've always wanted to put ice chocolate ice cream in a Klondike bar, but maybe it was a fat person that was brave enough. Maybe, you know, a former fat teenager. Let's let kids. And I wasn't fat as a teenager, but I did have an abnormally large head and a very skinny body, so it was a different thing. I wouldn't want head shaving surgery. Let these big domed kids know what it feels like to not find a fitted hat.
Eddie Pepitone
I didn't know they're giving kids.
Dan St. Germain
Oh, you're starting to give them that like, weight loss thing. Like, there's like, it always starts with the rich people, but then it trickles down because rich people do it and then middle class, or what was the middle class people now go like, well, I got to do that for my kid. And honestly, insecurities. I don't think when you're a teenager, you realize that insecurities become your superpower when you're older. Just like Martin. Like what you were saying with Martin Scorsese, he's like, yeah, he's like inside, can't breathe. And now this guy is still making great movies. For five decades. For four decades, yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
What was his last one?
Dan St. Germain
I was before, after the Irishman. He did.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, the Irishman Flower. Killer Moon. Really good.
Dan St. Germain
See what I mean? Like, yeah. Good for asthma.
Eddie Pepitone
Exactly.
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Eddie Pepitone
Yeah, but you're saying that he's now looking a little old with his daughter doing this.
Dan St. Germain
He's trying to do modern things. He's trying to do tick tocks and stuff.
Eddie Pepitone
There should be somebody should do parodies of old celebrities doing tick tocks with their daughter and like they're com. They have complete dementia and their daughters are like, what's that?
Dan St. Germain
See, they're like making them like. This is him with his daughter doing a trend. He just looks bothered by the camera. He's not even rapping.
Eddie Pepitone
What the hell, is she in a
Dan St. Germain
Kool Aid costume in his office?
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, man.
Dan St. Germain
That's what I mean. And you watch it. And he just looks bothered at the beginning. He should be doing. He.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah.
Dan St. Germain
What are you. Why are you filming me?
Eddie Pepitone
I don't know. My daughter. I could see him be an interview. My daughter is. You know, they. It's so funny. How did Niro and him talk in shorthand? Like the Italian thing where they don't say much, you know, because, you know, enough said, you know, it's like, I don't know what my daughter's like. No, just going for the right.
Dan St. Germain
I didn't like the way. I don't like the way his daughter shot that. Marty wouldn't have shot it like that. I'm just saying. They bring in De Niro and all them to interview about the movies and they ends up talking about her. Tick tock the whole time. She doesn't have a lot of followers, you know, not a good look.
Eddie Pepitone
I myself thought about getting into TikTok.
Dan St. Germain
I wish I could do dinner going, I got a baby about five years. I'm not going to know where I am. I got a.
Eddie Pepitone
Is he. What does he have a baby?
Dan St. Germain
He just had a baby at 80 years. Him and Pacino. Pacino had a baby at like 80. And I know it's talked about, but it's like, what are you doing?
Eddie Pepitone
I had a bit where I was like. I was like, you know, what kind of father Pacino is like, he's at home going, get this fucking thing off my foot.
Dan St. Germain
He doesn't understand what the fuck it is, right?
Eddie Pepitone
He's like, he's just too old to deal.
Dan St. Germain
Why is there a little child grabbing my leg? I need to know what this is. It's not a human. It doesn't eat solid foods. Great.
Eddie Pepitone
So now I'm in parenthood.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. He, I. You almost wonder if he was tricked into coming in that woman or she was like, this is part of the massage, Mr. Pacino.
Eddie Pepitone
Is it someone he's been with for a long time?
Dan St. Germain
It's.
Eddie Pepitone
It's Barbara Walters.
Dan St. Germain
82 years old. That's so funny.
Eddie Pepitone
She was 29 and he was 82. Well, that's the last child. He looks good. Pacino.
Dan St. Germain
I don't Agree with you. He always looks like he just took goggles.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, my God. I. I didn't know that. Wow.
Dan St. Germain
It looks like he was watching Oppenheimer. Like the. Like he was in the desert watching the explosion. That's gonna kill a lot of Japanese people. Take all those glasses. Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
I think it's powerful enough.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. Oh, we're gonna blow up a lot of jobs. But I'm sorry, I think we have to go with Cillian Murphy. He's just a little more. I want to play Oppenheimer. Whoa. That ball. That's a big bomb.
Eddie Pepitone
I love that we're doing Oppenheimer and De Niro. These old school in persons.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. Gen Z gets it. But I do think that that should be a new form of elder abuse is social media clips when they don't know what they're doing. Trends that they don't know.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah. And. And force. Yeah, I guess it would be forcing that.
Dan St. Germain
They are forcing them.
Eddie Pepitone
Really.
Dan St. Germain
There's no way. Martin Scorsese was like, hey, did you see the. The 4 non blondes Nicki Minaj thing where it's half 4 non blondes, then you rap. Nicki, can we do that? You know how.
Eddie Pepitone
Honey, honey, let's do the Nicki Min.
Dan St. Germain
I'm gonna set this up. I need nine hours to set up the shot. He's just continuously filming. She's like, we did it. Oh, no. You found another thing that upset you.
Eddie Pepitone
Is this another Scorsese? Yes. Yes. The kid. You would think the kid would be better looking just because. No, I mean it. Just because he's a big celebrity. You would think they're. They get. They get raised in an environment where they would be expensive.
Dan St. Germain
Lotions. Yes, lotions. They go. Go to. They go to the parts of the world where the sun doesn't give you cancer.
Eddie Pepitone
Yes.
Dan St. Germain
Like Saint Barth.
Eddie Pepitone
Am I. Am. I had a line to say that.
Dan St. Germain
No, not at all. Can I. Can I be honest? And I know this isn't probably going to be a popular opinion, but I thought a very similar thing when I saw it for the first time. I went, oof. Like, Marty, Marty, you're gonna have a kid. Old. Better be a hot kid. Yes. Kiss. Come on. What are you doing?
Eddie Pepitone
Not hot. Just like, kind of like.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. Also, that is. It's never the celebrity that wants to do the trend. And then it just makes me think like, well, your daughter's just holding you up. Your daughter's just making you do this. This is elder abuse.
Eddie Pepitone
Yes.
Dan St. Germain
Maybe if you would have abused your kid More they wouldn't have, you know, I don't know. I'm just trying to get back to really unpopular.
Eddie Pepitone
I didn't know this was the unpopular podcast.
Dan St. Germain
I'm saying all the stuff that everyone's a fight manager.
Eddie Pepitone
Like Eddie, we've had some problems with the Sodor podcast.
Dan St. Germain
We have to have it pulled. He got you to do a tick tock trend where it's, it's very big in the Charlie Kirk community. Oh, Eddie Peppertone. To walk right into that.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh God. So are you. Do you have a kid?
Dan St. Germain
No.
Eddie Pepitone
Okay, good. No, because I, I do this thing where I go, do you believe people are still having children?
Dan St. Germain
It's crazy.
Eddie Pepitone
Has anybody glanced at a newspaper?
Dan St. Germain
It's crazy. Or, or just looked around also, have you ever, have you felt the weather? Like we're getting days in the summer that are 112 in places and then it snows like it's day after tomorrow. Tomorrow. And then we go, oh well this
Eddie Pepitone
is a good time to have a child.
Dan St. Germain
Well, it's the people that go, it's called global warming. I thought. And then they're having kids. And you go, you're gonna. That apocalypse. Dumb people have a lot of kids. Yeah. It's gonna be a nuisance for the apocalypse.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh God. Yeah.
Dan St. Germain
Because you're gonna have to kill your kids.
Eddie Pepitone
Totally.
Dan St. Germain
Not me.
Eddie Pepitone
Totally. I love to be used for fuel. Like children.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. And if at best case scenario you're giving up the youngest one for adrenochromes for the leader, you know, so they can.
Eddie Pepitone
I don't know what that means, but it sounds good. What's an adrenochrome?
Dan St. Germain
It's a fake theory that the Illuminati, they said like the Clintons and all them would scare kids and then drink this fluid out of their brain that gave. And you go, yeah, that's so made up.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh God.
Dan St. Germain
That it's just fun to reference.
Eddie Pepitone
By the way, what has happened to our world. And, and do you think there'll be a civil war?
Dan St. Germain
Possibly.
Eddie Pepitone
I think it sure seems like it's going in that direction.
Dan St. Germain
I think the way we get out of this is what Colin Quinn said.
Eddie Pepitone
What do you say?
Dan St. Germain
He said we either sell the United States as he, as he says, knock down the Rockies, do an open concept. Which is one of my favorite lines. I love him. But also was like he, he made a great point in his special red state, blue state where he said the difference. I, I'm gonna up this. But the difference between Minnesota and Florida. Think about culturally how different those twos are. It's the difference between like Germany and Italy where he's like, it's the same distance. And those are two completely different countries with different histories.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, yeah.
Dan St. Germain
He's like, maybe we just split up. Maybe we bake. You know, in the special he goes, 250 years. That's a good run for a band. You break up, you break up and maybe we, I, I don't know. I think it's going to shift to. I think the Internet is doing more harm than good.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah, I think so too.
Dan St. Germain
As we just talked about Martin Scorsese, one of the greatest artistic minds of our.
Eddie Pepitone
Right. Getting it. Getting. There was an article today that Tick Tock settled. Did you see this? Settled a lawsuit about being addictive. And they, they admitted, they, I don't know, certain ways they market it or something.
Dan St. Germain
Well, they do it like the same way that people get addicted to slot machines, where every time they pull it. There's a 60 Minutes piece like 15 years ago about this where they said, yeah, it was like around 2011, 2012, they did a piece where they were like, the guy, he was a former programmer for Facebook. This is when Facebook was still the rage. And he was like, no, we, It's a targeted dopamine hits where you're like, yeah, that's been going on where they go. Like, if you keep going, then we'll give you something that will create a reaction out of you, so you want to keep going. So that's.
Eddie Pepitone
Read the book and this was a while ago. Dopamine Nation.
Dan St. Germain
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's a, I mean that's, they found out a way to just like get us to be lab rats and touch the button.
Eddie Pepitone
Absolutely. I, I, lately I just like Instagram. I don't know why I don't do Tick Tock.
Dan St. Germain
See, I stopped with Instagram.
Eddie Pepitone
You did?
Dan St. Germain
There was a, there was a thing about it.
Eddie Pepitone
They might have to Bumming me out.
Dan St. Germain
No, I still post on it and I still will look at it, but it, it be, it became, it lost being my primary thing. I like Reddit because Reddit's really good for.
Eddie Pepitone
Are you serious?
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, but I don't go to the comedy. I go to like sports or movies or like entertainment. And then you go. Now granted, you can get lost down wormholes in that because. Oh, absolutely, very. But like my negative experience with Reddit was going on and looking at comedy because I love comedy. And then I would see stuff that would just make me. Yeah, I don't go to any of My friends, subreddits, I don't go to any. I don't. I keep it impersonal. I want it like my. If you look at my feed, it's all like sports, movies, wrestling, and then like rant dogs. A lot of dog stuff.
Eddie Pepitone
Of dog stuff.
Dan St. Germain
But now the algorithm grabbed me. All they're putting up now on Reddit in my algorithm feed is dogs that are dying. Like, dude, like final posts. And I went, I had to mute it. I had to mute pics of dogs. I'm sorry, r pics of dogs. But I had to mute it because I was just like on my couch. And it'd be like, this is Buster. He's been through everything. And you go, I, I don't. The second I see where it's going, I go, I can't read this. I was crying on the toilet this morning. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Listen, I have been a huge fan of therapy. I tell people, probably the point that you're sick of hearing it. Probably rolling your eyes right now. Well, if you're rolling your eyes, you probably need therapy. How about that? We'll play that little game. If you're rolling your eyes through this ad, you probably. Everybody needs therapy. Everybody needs someone to talk to. You're a human being with Myrtle sneezing at me. But I don't care. I'm telling you, it's human being. A human being has complicated feelings. We're not a dog. We can't just bury our face in a stuffed beef and, and suck a hole that looks like it's bh. We can't do that. You're a human being. You have. You have complicated emotions. I hope she's not eating that as I say as I poke her. But check out BetterHelp. You're disgusting. You need a haircut so bad. Check out betterhelp. Go talk to somebody. Because when you talk to someone, you can actually, you know, process your emotions and understand what you're feeling. Your emotional well being matters. Find support and feel lighter in therapy. Sign up and get 10 off@betterhelp.com Soder that's better h e l p.com Soder the show is sponsored by BetterHelp.
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Eddie Pepitone
Cap Apply Quieres Mejor Internet Cox Internet detre sientas megas tiene las velocidades rapidas y confiables Que buscas perfecto para streaming E Gaming. I watched a video where a dog had they now selling very little guns to dogs. And he had a gun to his head and the voiceover was like, if he doesn't get something to eat soon, he's gonna blow his brains off. Up. No, out.
Dan St. Germain
I would love the commercial of you and then you walking down the kennel going to camera. Hi, I'm Eddie Pepitone. Dog suicide is a very real guns.
Eddie Pepitone
I have a bit. Where do you know about the. The Pentagon, of course, has done this robotic dogs.
Dan St. Germain
Oh, are you talking about Boston Dynam gimmicks?
Eddie Pepitone
I think so, yeah.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, you're on top of that.
Dan St. Germain
I'm very afraid of them.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, my God.
Dan St. Germain
The way they move like the road.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, my God,
Dan St. Germain
yes. No, no, no, no.
Eddie Pepitone
So, of course they're contracted out by the military and the LAPD used them in a host. You. You know this mike. But I have this bit where I go, you know, these robotic dogs. First of all, thank you, Pentagon, for making my favorite thing in the fucking world into a dystopian nightmare. But secondly, I'm still worried about him because I'm worried about the strays, the stray robotics. I mean, once. Once the software is upgraded, there's going to be all these strays roaming around. And they can, you know, they're nimble. Yes. And they can move 150 miles an hour. And yes, they're weaponized. But I could see someone like this, the bit Sally Struthers. Someone like Sally Struther saying, these dogs need to be loved too, even though they don't have any emotions. And the dog is just climbing up and down a skyscraper behind her.
Dan St. Germain
These dogs have nowhere to be plugged in at night. Oh, that's.
Eddie Pepitone
I'm going to take that.
Dan St. Germain
Help find a place for them to port. Yeah, it is. The second that they were going like, look at this. Because I liked him at first when I went, whoa, look at that robot's walking by itself. And then they start doing stuff where they go, I pushed it over and it got back up and you go, don't push it, don't push it. It's going to remember that. It's going to remember that it's going
Eddie Pepitone
to be like, see them kickboxing now? Or whatever. And it's like, no.
Dan St. Germain
And the part that upsets me is watching humans be excited for it because you go, do. You don't see any problem. They announced in the news that they were going to introduce Grok into the Pentagon.
Eddie Pepitone
What is rock?
Dan St. Germain
It's AI. It's Elon Musk's AI. Oh. That he uses on Twitter.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, really?
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. And it's like, what does it do? It breaks all the time because people with it. And he's had to reprogram it.
Eddie Pepitone
But what does it do? Just answer things and put out things.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
Is it interesting? No, no.
Dan St. Germain
Just like, Elon interesting. And yes. And I really. I've been. I've been trying to drive this home, this point home, but I think where we messed up in the American experience was not checking in with rich people.
Eddie Pepitone
What do you mean? They run everything.
Dan St. Germain
I know. That's the problem. That's the problem.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, I see.
Dan St. Germain
My mom, when I was growing up, I was raised by a single mom. And I remember any time, yeah, we found out someone was had money, my mom would go, they're doing fine. They'll figure it out.
Eddie Pepitone
When they had, like, if we found
Dan St. Germain
out, like, oh, you know, actually, like, his dad is rich. And my mom would go, then they're fine. They'll figure it out. And she'd always go, they can throw money at it. That's what she would say. They could throw money at it. Their problems are solvable. And I think too many of us said that. So now there's all these wealthy people that are broken inside.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, completely.
Dan St. Germain
And no one's ever gone to Elon, like, are you okay, buddy? And maybe just one of those. And he'd go, I don't know. I want to go to space because I can't live here. And no one likes me. And then everyone's like, sleeve a lot alone, he's got so much money. And you go, I'm genuinely just trying to make sure he's all right. No one checks in on him. They're always going, you're so smart. How are we getting to Mars? How? No one ever just goes, like, you have a bad day. Yeah, the robot, the dog. Robots don't help. They're not as cuddly.
Eddie Pepitone
I had an idea for a show. I think I'm going to call it the Billionaire Rehabilitation Center.
Dan St. Germain
Yes.
Eddie Pepitone
And it just focuses around a rehab for billionaires where they try to make them empathy.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
Empathetic, my friend.
Dan St. Germain
Did rehab. I've had a bunch of friends in rehab, and one of the things they do is sometimes they'll take you out to a field and pet a horse so that you can. I'm serious. Dan St. Germain had a fantastic bit about this. Oh, yeah. He's like, you. He goes. That's how, you know. He's like, damn. I. Up.
Eddie Pepitone
Up.
Dan St. Germain
If you're in a field. If you're in a field, just petting. If you're just in a field petting a horse. But that's what we would need is, like, just a billionaire to sit there with, like, a cleaning lady. And she's like, I have kids. And he's like, whoa. And your kids. Like, I love them. Like, rehab them into being humans again. Yeah, because it's the. It's the. It's. They're fortified by yes. Men.
Eddie Pepitone
Yes.
Dan St. Germain
They're fortified by people.
Eddie Pepitone
But they want that and they build that. And they can't deal.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
With. You see, Elon. I mean, Elon Musk got slapped into reality a little with the doe because there was so much pushback on that.
Dan St. Germain
But I feel like guys like that, when they get pushback like that, they double down.
Eddie Pepitone
That's true.
Dan St. Germain
Because that's always been their way out of it. That's like when you look at, like, all of his business dealings and you go, well, he gets put in these situations where people go, you're. And he goes, I'm just gonna double down. And then it works, and then he gets out of it. So he never has to go like, oh, was I being a dick bug there?
Eddie Pepitone
It'd be funny if he had one. Like, for some reason, he's got one blue collar friend in his life. Like a cabbie in Brooklyn. Go. And he invites him over this, and he's like, elon, why are there so many robots? Yeah, why don't you get a real woman to blow you?
Dan St. Germain
He goes, dominic, I would love to, but you're asking too many difficult questions. I don't know, why aren't you more like Joe Rogan and just say yes? Like billionaires. They should have a blue collar friend. They should have.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah.
Dan St. Germain
If Bezos had a friend that was like a pipe fitter in the pipe fitter union.
Eddie Pepitone
Yes.
Dan St. Germain
You know, and Bezos would be like, with his weird wonk eye and he's all on steroids now, and he'd be like, hey, my warehouse. My warehouse employees are mad because they're gonna try to unionize. And one guy goes, I love unions.
Eddie Pepitone
Yes, exactly.
Dan St. Germain
Goes. Mark he goes, jeff, Jeffrey. What you don't understand is this house was bought by.
Eddie Pepitone
Exactly.
Dan St. Germain
I pay my membership fees. I got fucking friends. We go now we hang out.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah, yeah. And Bezos ignores it and goes, here, look at, look, I got a new fucking thing. It's. It's the size of an insect and it surveils everything in 300,000 miles.
Dan St. Germain
Isn't that cool, Domino? And he goes, you creeping me the out.
Eddie Pepitone
No, it's not cool, you idiot.
Dan St. Germain
That's what they need. They need either they need a friend that doesn't want things from them because you've been in this business a long time and I've been in it over 20 years. And you see people change because. Yes, they get famous.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah.
Dan St. Germain
I saw this in an interview one time. I forgot who said it. I think it was Kendrick Lamar was like, like the difference fame is you don't change. It's the people around you change.
Eddie Pepitone
Interesting.
Dan St. Germain
And they go like, well, you got a lot of stuff now. Can I have some of that stuff?
Eddie Pepitone
Yes.
Dan St. Germain
And then they go, if I say yes, he gives me more stuff.
Eddie Pepitone
Yes. Yeah, people want things, you know, and I'm at a low level of that, you know, and they're like, hey, can you. You know, it's like very subtle. Like the smart people, like, subtle about it, but I, I know it's going to, going on.
Dan St. Germain
You go, don't. Have you ever had to confront someone about that? No, I read to go like, play me like, yeah. How long have you been in LA?
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, God, dude, 23 years.
Dan St. Germain
Okay, so you've watched it go like, you know every trick in the LA book?
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, yeah.
Dan St. Germain
You've seen.
Eddie Pepitone
It's brutal. La.
Dan St. Germain
Have you seen people? This is the LA thing. That's. Why are you from here? No, I grew up in Colorado, but.
Eddie Pepitone
You did?
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, but I, I started stand up in Tucson for two years and then I moved here. So I've been here for over 20 years.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, you've been here for over 20 years?
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. I never liked LA because the ability of people who at first treat you like, I don't know, this guy is. This guy doesn't have anything for me. And then they find out you have something and you watch them go like, yeah, there he is, there's my guy.
Eddie Pepitone
I have sat at a point party, like kind of a high level party of celebs. Just so painful celebs around a table, you know, And I'm there and I'm not, I don't rate to be in that. And you're just like, yeah.
Dan St. Germain
Watching a move. LA was the first place I ever had someone. I saw someone look through me where I was like, oh, they are not. They're not talking to me right now. They're like, oh, that's crazy. Yeah. And then they'd see someone and they go, it's great seeing you. And then they. And you're like, yeah. Remember the first time that happened to me? I was like, angry. I was like, what a shitty dude.
Eddie Pepitone
I'm still angry.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
Why am I there? 23 years? I don't know.
Dan St. Germain
Do you like living there?
Eddie Pepitone
Partly, but not anymore. I'll tell you, it's. You know, speaking of the eco side that we're going through, I mean, last January, not this January, but last January, I was getting evacuation notices. I had my cat, both of them senior, a cat, and my dog Charlotte, my wife. And we're like, ready to evacuate. At some point, you. You. I don't know, you remember the la.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
At some point you thought, oh, we're gonna die in a fire.
Dan St. Germain
I mean, the way that it happened too, from us watching it from the east coast was like. It all got lit up fast. Like, really fast within. I remember Tim Dillon, like posted something where he was showing the fire come up to his balcony and you're like, oh, Jesus Christ.
Eddie Pepitone
Dylan is hilarious. Because he was also in Austin when they had that freeze out.
Dan St. Germain
I think he had supervillain move there. He goes, here's what's gonna happen. I'm gonna shut down your grid and there's nothing you can do. I love. They go in, they go, tim, you're the perfect man to shut down Los Angeles. Set a fire. I'll fan the flames. But I remember texting him and being like, dude, get out of here. And he was like, dude, it happened. So he got out of there. He was in Palm Springs when I found out.
Eddie Pepitone
I never. I never, never left. No, because I. I am.
Dan St. Germain
The fires close to you.
Eddie Pepitone
At some point it was somewhat close. Like, someone told me it's good to be poor in la because you're not in the hills where the fires and the floods get you. You're in the gr. All the valet people.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, that is funny. Where they go, they go. Well, no one's picking up these cars. And then all these rich, all these poor people are driving like, Mercedes Benz and Audis, being like, everyone died in the fire. Yeah. I always think about, you know, because they talk about the. The tech billionaires, Elon and Zuckerberg. I don't know if it's true, but they're building compounds in New Zealand for like, the end of the world.
Eddie Pepitone
But the question, Mountainhead, it was kind of based on that. Did you see that? I guess I'm better informed.
Dan St. Germain
No, I guess I'll leave the. I'll lead the conversation.
Eddie Pepitone
No, it was a. And it kind of sucked. It's a little disappointing, but Corral was in it.
Dan St. Germain
Oh, where the four tech guys go away.
Eddie Pepitone
I remember that was all about that.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
I forget who wrote it. Some big guy, but it kind of sucked.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, but the premise itself is interesting because you go, well, what happens? Right? Hypothetically, let's, let's play this out. The world ends, you get to your compound, you're gonna need security. But then what stops the security from going, well, I got the gun and I know how to fight. And you're just a nerd that knew how to program computers.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah, there's a, there's a, a guy, Douglas Rush off, who writes about these billionaires and he's an economist and he's, he can't believe, like they, they took him to some. One of their conferences and he thought they were going to ask, he thought they were going to ask him about questions about, you know, how do we help the society. But no, they just wanted to know how do we survive? Like, do we have the people with shock collars who are our security? Like, they really are taking it to the level of like, like, like who, who will have access to our food supply?
Dan St. Germain
You know, it's. It just showed. I just showed my poor brain, my, like, dumb brain by going, like, security will turn on you. And they're like, we have electric dog collars. They're not gonna do anything. They're gonna obey us if they want to eat and live. But then my thing is to just kill me because I'm not gonna live in a post apocalyptic society. No. Where there's six guys in New Zealand living perfectly fine than everyone else.
Eddie Pepitone
It's Mad Max that in a post apocalyptic society. I did a woman show about this. Like, you're still trying to get to an audition. You got to suck someone off for gas. You know, you finally get to the audition and it's just a voice, it's for a serial and it's just, it's a commercial and it's just a voice in the darkness going, okay, Eddie, it's just down between you and a charred corpse.
Dan St. Germain
For this role, all we got left is this guy that died in the initial blast and you. So show us what you got. Are you ready? Great.
Eddie Pepitone
We're gonna go in a different direction.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, it really, man. It gets to the point where you're like, are they trying to make it an apocalypse?
Eddie Pepitone
I.
Dan St. Germain
Because what you said about that author that writes about billionaires, you think they gotta read him. They go, what?
Eddie Pepitone
Rush off.
Dan St. Germain
Rush off. But they go, like, what came up? What kind of philanthropy? Take order. Order three books. We'll stop the podcast, we'll read these books, and then we'll come back.
Eddie Pepitone
Douglas Rushhoff.
Dan St. Germain
But it is, It's. It's amazing that you go. A normal person thinks, well, what are they gonna do with society? Or whatever. And billionaires go, we don't give a.
Eddie Pepitone
They don't care.
Dan St. Germain
At least the Vanderbilts used to make libraries and, and hospitals, you know.
Eddie Pepitone
Jacob, Jacob, do you think we should put in a bathroom for the. For the proletariat in the library?
Dan St. Germain
Okay, fine. I. I guess they admit liquids like we do. Do you find it?
Eddie Pepitone
Let's go ahead, talk about it.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, let's bring him out.
Eddie Pepitone
Can they hear you?
Dan St. Germain
No, not really. He's off, Mike. But Douglas Rushkoff. Rushkoff.
Eddie Pepitone
Name the books.
Dan St. Germain
He's an American theorist, writer and professor. He. First off, I'm looking at his education. He's got a BA from Princeton. He's got his masters from Colorado. I mean, this guy went to the American film.
Eddie Pepitone
Good guy, though.
Dan St. Germain
He's. Yeah, he. Bibliography?
Eddie Pepitone
No, not yet. Just.
Dan St. Germain
His books are free rides. How to get high without drugs. Siberia. Life in the trenches of cyberspace. This is in 94. And then as he goes forward, starts getting real. 2010, he wrote program or be programmed? 10 commands for a digital age paperback. Throwing rocks at the Google Bus in 2016. 2019's Team Human.
Eddie Pepitone
That's a good one.
Dan St. Germain
2022's Survival of the Richest, which is probably going to be the one that I read.
Eddie Pepitone
That is Great.
Dan St. Germain
And there's 2024. Program or B. Programmed 11 commands for the AI future.
Eddie Pepitone
We haven't read that yet.
Dan St. Germain
Paperback.
Eddie Pepitone
But he's great to read because he understands these lunatics.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. And they say that his. The most read chapters of his is chapter eight in the book Survival of the Riches. Survival of the Riches.
Eddie Pepitone
What's that chapter, I think called?
Dan St. Germain
Extinction Rebellion. Oh, dude, this is not a drill. An Extinction Rebellion Handbook.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah. Extinction Rebellion is the name of a group. Group. I don't know if you know that. No, they are. They actually do stuff like real to try to stop the eco side. Like they. In London. They block the M5 like they do real Things. They don't do a very nice, you know, they don't do a very nice march where they're not, you know, sing songs. Yeah. And talking to the police. They just block, they blocked the machinery of capitalism couldn't do it.
Dan St. Germain
I know I don't have the balls to do it.
Eddie Pepitone
I'm old now.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
That's my thing, is that I have a bad shoulder.
Dan St. Germain
That's really funny. That's your excuse for. They go, why didn't, why didn't Eddie fight in the apocalypse? And you go, you know that right
Eddie Pepitone
shoulder is, it is the right shoulder.
Dan St. Germain
We don't know if it's a rope.
Eddie Pepitone
You know, I can't sleep on my right side now. It's really gotten.
Dan St. Germain
Have you gone to a dark, A doctor?
Eddie Pepitone
I don't, you know, I, I'm very old school, you know, I, I will only go to a doctor if I see blood on the mattress.
Dan St. Germain
That's really funny.
Eddie Pepitone
I'm thinking about going soon because it hurts.
Dan St. Germain
Your shoulder? Yeah. Do you try to, like, prop it up on a pillow? I work out and it, and then. But just when you sleep, it hurts.
Eddie Pepitone
I, I, I can't sleep on that side anyway. It's a whole. I, I don't know why I brought
Dan St. Germain
that up except about, you know, what's funny is I'm as inquisitive about this that I am about the apocalypse.
Eddie Pepitone
You know, when you get older, dude, it's like you start talking about. Really?
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
So, yeah, it was a clot.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, Yeah. I just had that. A buddy of mine had got deep vein thrombosis. And I go, like, so what are you doing? He's like, taking pills and I can't do this or that. And you go, but I'm at the age now where I'm in my 40s, in my 20s, I would heard that I would have been like, like, yeah, it sucks. Is I'm lighting a cigarette, I'm like, yeah, good luck. And now in my 40s, I go, yeah. What was the first sign? Yes. Because I'm like, waiting for it to be like, O if my right shoulder starts hurting.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, yeah.
Dan St. Germain
Did you ever smoke cigarettes?
Eddie Pepitone
No, just a lot of weed.
Dan St. Germain
Okay. I was a cigarettes guy and a weed guy.
Eddie Pepitone
Never a cigarette. Are you off of cigarettes now?
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, I've been 13 years without smoking.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, great.
Dan St. Germain
But I.
Eddie Pepitone
You did some damage.
Dan St. Germain
Oh, her and I want to come back. Katie and I are looking to smoke.
Eddie Pepitone
Is that right? Because of all the.
Dan St. Germain
Why not?
Eddie Pepitone
Why not?
Dan St. Germain
Why not? If I what? I'm gonna be going through.
Eddie Pepitone
Is it a real pleasure?
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, it's.
Eddie Pepitone
By the way, this would be funny. A commercial force smoking as the society collapses.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. Here you go. Listen. Hey, it's all fallen. Might as well have a Marlboro.
Eddie Pepitone
Things like that. Yeah, things like, you know.
Dan St. Germain
You know.
Eddie Pepitone
You know, as you watch the chaos outside and have limited access to. Of food supply and it's going to be 130 tomorrow. You know what might be nice? A Marlboro Red.
Dan St. Germain
That's what it is. That's how you sell it, where you go. Not only is it an appetite suppressant, but you can light it off the burning buildings every.
Eddie Pepitone
I did that thing about. The only thing I like about the LA fires is that I like cigars and I just lean out the window.
Dan St. Germain
It's really funny. Thanks. Thanks, God. Well, my family's from Northern California and. And they've dealt with fires. My grandma lived in Lake county, which was like central to where all those fires happen in Northern California.
Eddie Pepitone
Is that near Mount Shasta?
Dan St. Germain
No, it is. It is by. It's by Ukiah. I don't know if you know where Ukiah is. It's up north.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, okay.
Dan St. Germain
It's south of Oregon. It's. It's about three hours north of the Bay Area.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Dan St. Germain
And it's.
Eddie Pepitone
I've been up to Eureka now.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
Doing comedy.
Dan St. Germain
Eureka's cool.
Eddie Pepitone
It's so fun.
Dan St. Germain
Eureka's very Mendocino. It's like east of Mendocino. I don't know if you know men. And scene.
Eddie Pepitone
I don't want to brag about do I know Mendoncino or not?
Dan St. Germain
I know. All I'm saying is if you watched Murder, She Wrote.
Eddie Pepitone
I never did. I had no interest in that. I'm reading Rush Off.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
Survival of the richest.
Dan St. Germain
Well, I'm watching Lansbury and I'm seeing how all the this goes down. And that's.
Eddie Pepitone
I saw her live when she was like 90 something in LA. That's the thing you do in LA. Like, my wife will go, you know, Angela Lansbury's at the Beverly Hills Cinema today, introducing, you know, the Orient Express. She was in that. And so we go. And she's there, you know, hey, yes. You know, it's great.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. I mean, she's Jessica Fletcher. She's one of the greatest. She is actresses of our time.
Eddie Pepitone
She was great.
Dan St. Germain
Head knobs and broomsticks. I mean, the lady's been in everything. She's the best. But when you go. I remember in Northern California, they'd Always have the fires or whatever. And people in LA would be like, sucks, sucks. You're having those fires. And then you're like, you guys. So there was a little bit.
Eddie Pepitone
It's a real. North hates North, South.
Dan St. Germain
I'll tell you what, I think north hates south more than south hates North California.
Eddie Pepitone
I agree.
Dan St. Germain
La, they're like, we're having the time of our lives in New York and then they're in hoodies in the fog up north going, shut the up.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah, but I think the north is cooler.
Dan St. Germain
Yes, I agree. I love Northern California. Yeah. If I were to live anywhere other than New York, it would probably be Northern California.
Eddie Pepitone
Northern California is very cool. I just performed up there.
Dan St. Germain
I love it. I love. I love San Francisco.
Eddie Pepitone
Yep.
Dan St. Germain
My dad's from Oakland. He's from the East Bay. I love the East Bay.
Eddie Pepitone
It's unlivable as far as rent now because of these techies.
Dan St. Germain
Well, it's starting to come back because the techies moved to Austin. They left. And so now there's like such a hole. Yeah. So now they're starting to. Now what's happening is San Francisco is becoming affordable. San Francisco's like, no, I. I mean, that is like.
Eddie Pepitone
I. Like, you still have to have a lot of money.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. I mean, that's like. It's not anywhere. It's not what it should be like.
Eddie Pepitone
Right.
Dan St. Germain
As someone that lived there when I was a kid. Kid. I spent a lot of time there as a kid. It was like. How long were you there for my dad. My dad lived in Marin with my grandma for.
Eddie Pepitone
I just performed at the Throck Morton.
Dan St. Germain
My dad.
Eddie Pepitone
That's awesome.
Dan St. Germain
Worked at the liquor store down the street from the Throckmorton Mill Valley.
Eddie Pepitone
Bill Valley. And I was there. I got there at night and not a soul on this.
Dan St. Germain
Isn't that crazy? It's spooky.
Eddie Pepitone
Where is everybody?
Dan St. Germain
Up in the hills. Yeah. Hill people. But you don't know that. They don't let you know that. They're all liberal hill people. Where they go, Everyone has rights. Return to my hills. Yeah, but I. That's. That's a part of my childhood that was probably my fondest memories were staying out there in the summers.
Eddie Pepitone
Were you there?
Dan St. Germain
90.
Eddie Pepitone
I mean, for you, you.
Dan St. Germain
89 to 93.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, okay. They were like five years.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, I spent about. Yeah. From when I was about 6, 5 to 10 years old, I would go out because my mom lived in Denver and I'd go out.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah. So you did a lot of playing outdoors.
Dan St. Germain
It was great. I'd Run around. There was like a lot of. Especially in Mill Valley.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah. Children have to run around on treadmills now because it's so dangerous out. They just have. Parents just have treadmills.
Dan St. Germain
Which is crazy because we were just free range dodging kidnappers. Yes. There was a. And this is when I. I grew up in Aurora, which is in Colorado, which is south east of Denver. It's a nice suburb. Yeah. One time I was walking to school and I used to cut through this backyard. I'd cut through because it took like 20 minutes off the walk.
Eddie Pepitone
Right.
Dan St. Germain
I cut through this guy's backyard and then went through this drainage up into my school. And one time I. I was in fifth grade and I'm like walking to school and this van just pulls up and then like pulls in front of the house and the door opens and I run.
Eddie Pepitone
Run. You knew it was.
Dan St. Germain
I run. And I was like, that's a kidnapper. And the guy went, whoa. He goes, I live here. I live here. And I came around the corner or the house was. And I remember specifically him going, but good job. He's like. He was like, impressive. I was cutting through his backyard, but he was like, hey, good job. A van rolled up on you and you just took off. And I was like, what a brilliant move it would have been if he'd been like, now come here. Yeah, that's how he could have got me. Positive reinforcement. Yeah, totally. Thank you. And he's like, yep, you're mine now.
Eddie Pepitone
There are some very shrewd serial killers. That's very true. Through Netflix. Very shrewd.
Dan St. Germain
You can't be. You can't be footing out here while you're catching your victims. You gotta. You. It's. It's. It's abc abk. Always be killing.
Eddie Pepitone
Like, when I read that, who was it? Was he. It Bundy who did that thing where he faked broken arm.
Dan St. Germain
That's what they did in Silence of the Lambs. They based it off Bundy.
Eddie Pepitone
That's.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. Ted Bundy would go, hey, I broke my arm. Could you. I need. Can you help me with the couch?
Eddie Pepitone
And he was handsome. That's what I have going for me.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
Is my handsomeness when I just. With the ladies.
Dan St. Germain
And they go. They go, oh, am I.
Eddie Pepitone
And I've got my stand.
Dan St. Germain
They go, am I falling in love or am I being sex trafficked? Perfect. That's what I need. I need. Eddie, you've had so many starlets over a dinner. Go, Eddie, am I falling for you? Are you turning me into A sultan. Sex slave.
Eddie Pepitone
Has there ever been a movie about a serial killer comic?
Dan St. Germain
No.
Eddie Pepitone
That might be funny.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
And. And scary. Like, do it realistically.
Dan St. Germain
Because then we would start looking.
Eddie Pepitone
I don't want Will Arnett as the guy.
Dan St. Germain
We would start looking at people going, are you. Are you who they based it off of? This guy's charming. There's a couple comics and I won't say names, but you know the rule on this podcast. If I say, somebody come to my show live and I'll tell you the name. That's.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, that's great.
Dan St. Germain
It's how it's. It's unfair to keep.
Eddie Pepitone
I just name them.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, I name them and then I
Eddie Pepitone
call Mike and then you say, I
Dan St. Germain
know, I know, I know. I'm going. I'm going to la.
Eddie Pepitone
I'm going to.
Dan St. Germain
But there are comics that I've see that, that I know that I would go like, oh, I think he. If he became a serial killer. If they found bodies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember, remember Dan St. Germaine said that about Facebook, about a comic where he's like, man, these Facebook posts are going to make a lot more sense if they start finding bodies. That's what he wrote me one time and I was like, yeah, you're absolutely right. Right.
Eddie Pepitone
Are you good buddies with Dan?
Dan St. Germain
Oh, he's. Yeah, he's like my.
Eddie Pepitone
Does he live here?
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
I didn't know.
Dan St. Germain
Or now he's up at. Yeah, he's.
Eddie Pepitone
I knew him up in la.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. When he wrote on Superior Donuts and that stuff. Yes. Yeah, he's doing great now he's out here. He's my. Yeah, we're writing partners. We have a work on shows together. He's the man I love. Dan.
Eddie Pepitone
Still sober?
Dan St. Germain
Yeah.
Eddie Pepitone
Good.
Dan St. Germain
He's, you know, he fights. He. He fights for it. He's doing a good job, but he's the man. He's so funny.
Eddie Pepitone
Oh, cool.
Dan St. Germain
And he would never hurt a fly, so. He's not who I'm talking about. Oh, God, the phone call.
Eddie Pepitone
Mike, it's stand. We gotta. I want you to cut from minute three to minute 40.
Dan St. Germain
What I need you to do is. Now hear me out. I need you to cut minute 36 to 37. Yeah. Put it on the back end of minute eight and nine. Yes. It's gonna look like we're talking about
Eddie Pepitone
even get rid of Liberace thing.
Dan St. Germain
I. I know his son. I know his son, Michael. Right. I'm not going to be invited to the compound on Martha. This venue.
Eddie Pepitone
Yes, yes.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah. Have you Ever had somebody that you loved and knew a long time in LA change that? You saw them? Like, did you ever watch, like the business get them where you go, Damn you. Really?
Eddie Pepitone
I, I think so, but I, I, I don't know.
Dan St. Germain
Do you stay to yourself?
Eddie Pepitone
I kind of stay to myself.
Dan St. Germain
I always love that about you.
Eddie Pepitone
I kind of stay to myself. I don't really like you.
Dan St. Germain
Every time I've ever been on a show with you, the feeling is like the outdoor cat came inside. Everybody goes, he never does this.
Eddie Pepitone
Don't pet him.
Dan St. Germain
No, no, no. You come in and they go. And then you curl up and they go. You go up whenever he wants. Oh, he's going up.
Eddie Pepitone
Yeah, yeah.
Dan St. Germain
I think you are one of the funniest human beings of all time. I have watched your stand up trip with pure enjoyment the entire time I've done comedy. It's very rare. I think I've became a jaded on a lot of people. But you, I've. I'm. If you've never watched Eddie Pepitone Go on YouTube and you have, I think like three or four specials up there. How many specials?
Eddie Pepitone
Well, I don't know, but the new one is called the Collapse.
Dan St. Germain
The Collapse is fantastic. Where did you film that?
Eddie Pepitone
Chicago, at a place called Lincoln hall, which is mainly for, you know, it. I know, like, mainly for bands.
Dan St. Germain
Yeah, yeah. But wonderful. The Collapse. Wonderful. Introduction by Gary Goldman. Yes.
Eddie Pepitone
I'm doing a show tomorrow in Union Hall.
Dan St. Germain
Hell, yeah. Gary is Gary's man.
Eddie Pepitone
Is he a good, he's just, he's a comic.
Dan St. Germain
Like, he's a craftsman.
Eddie Pepitone
He calls him a craftsman.
Dan St. Germain
It's Joe. Listen, I always talk about this, but you watch your Goldman bit and it's like admiring a wonderful piece of furniture where, you know, like, how did he do the ends? How did he get the ends?
Eddie Pepitone
Like, that's perfectly put. Yeah.
Dan St. Germain
You go, I've been woodworking my whole life and I, I can't get.
Eddie Pepitone
It's so funny because I love Gary and, and he's a big fan of mine and we are opposites.
Dan St. Germain
Yes.
Eddie Pepitone
Like, I go up there just spewing and he's up there.
Dan St. Germain
It's, it's, everything is like, yeah, it, it, it's, I don't know, man, but it's in a world where there's so much in a world, in a world with poop everywhere. Find people you like and then support them. And I think you're one of those guys where it's like, like, I was so happy you were coming on the podcast. Thanks because I think you're fucking hilarious. The collapse on YouTube. Go watch it. I watched it. It's fucking fantastic. I didn't want to give away too many bits. The Apple watch is the opener, so you can't get fucking mad at me. We'll put the link down there. Great. Eddie Pepitone, New York City legend. LA phenomenon trying to go big. Colorado pariah of a better Never come to the 5280. He comes a mile high. We scalp him. Yeah. Thanks so much.
Eddie Pepitone
Thanks, man.
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Eddie Pepitone
cap apply Are you really buying a car online on Autotrader right now? Really? I can get super specific with dealer listings and see cars based on my budget. You can really have it delivered or pick it up. I think kid is walking up the slide. Really?
Dan St. Germain
Autotrader?
Eddie Pepitone
Buy your car online?
Dan St. Germain
Really?
Date: March 10, 2026
Host: Dan Soder
Guest: Eddie Pepitone
This episode of the Soder Podcast features stand-up legend Eddie Pepitone in a free-flowing, deeply funny, and often dark conversation with Dan Soder. Their discussion bounces between comedy, New York and LA culture, the changing media landscape, generational trauma, the odd intersection of family and fame, technology-dystopia fears, and why the Internet is both irresistible and ruinous. Pepitone’s signature blend of world-weariness and absurdity connects perfectly with Soder’s manic, open-hearted humor.
“It was one of my favorite sets I’ve ever seen in my life. And now I know what the Pulaski Bridge is…” — Dan Soder (01:00)
“Yeah, I grew up in Brooklyn till I was nine. I grew up in Brooklyn enough to get traumatized by... By different things, man.” — Eddie Pepitone (04:00)
“[Scorsese’s] daughter is doing social media content with him. And it feels like when they made… Jake LaMotta perform at the end of ‘Raging Bull’.” — Dan Soder (04:46)
“‘We took a lot of applications, and my son, John Jr., just happened to be the best fitting.’” — Eddie Pepitone, mocking old-money logic (05:56)
“AIDS was like, if you guys aren’t going to say it, I’m going to say it. AIDS. That’s what AIDS did in the 80s.” — Dan Soder (08:58)
“He would just look through his window... it was like frames in a film.” — Eddie Pepitone (11:48)
“You always see, like, a through line... it was their weakness, and then they made it their strength.” — Dan Soder (12:14)
“What kind of fucking data do you want from me? I am fall—I did fall. I’m falling. Emotionally, I’m falling.” — Eddie Pepitone (13:46)
“We need certain people to be fat so we can feel better about ourselves.” (15:04)
“There should be... parodies of old celebrities doing TikToks with their daughter and like they have complete dementia and their daughters are like, ‘What’s that?’” — Eddie Pepitone (19:49)
“Because you’re gonna have to kill your kids.” — Soder (26:19)
“Thank you, Pentagon, for making my favorite thing in the fucking world into a dystopian nightmare.” — Eddie Pepitone (33:36)
“One of the things they do in rehab is... take you out to a field and pet a horse.” — Dan Soder (37:21)
“Children have to run around on treadmills now because it’s so dangerous out.” — Eddie Pepitone (56:49)
"We took a lot of applications, and my son, John Jr. just happened to be the best fitting." — Eddie Pepitone (05:56)
"Thank you, Pentagon, for making my favorite thing in the fucking world into a dystopian nightmare." — Eddie Pepitone (33:36)
"Every time I’ve ever been on a show with you, the feeling is like the outdoor cat came inside. Everybody goes, he never does this." — Dan Soder (61:29)
"If you can really be honest about your shit, then people like, like, ‘oh, thanks, man. You really helped me through the pandemic.’" — Eddie Pepitone (13:17)
"Because you’re gonna have to kill your kids." — Dan Soder (26:19)
Soder and Pepitone keep the conversation rapid-fire, sardonic, personal yet universal, with dark-humor detours into generational loss, the commodification of everything, and the parade of existential threats facing American society. Their tone balances absurdity and real insights; both comedians freely riff, often escalating each other’s jokes into social critique, while never losing the thread of genuine camaraderie and hard-won empathy.
If you want to hear two of the sharpest comics alive probe the insecurity and insanity of modern life—from childhood trauma to TikTok to billionaire bunkers to the edges of climate collapse—this episode delivers both laughs and real talk. Pepitone’s signature energy and Soder’s everyman enthusiasm click perfectly, making for a podcast episode that is as cathartic as it is hilarious. Don’t miss the candid talk about comedy, the wicked impressions, and the riff-fueled critique of everything from showbiz nepotism to tech dystopias.
Recommended: Watch Eddie Pepitone’s special “The Collapse” on YouTube.