Episode 298: May the Second - The Found Weekend with May Pang
Release Date: December 24, 2024
Introduction
In Episode 298 of Something About the Beatles, hosted by Robert Rodriguez of Evergreen Podcasts, listeners are treated to an in-depth and intimate conversation with May Pang, John Lennon's long-time partner during his "Lost Weekend" period. This episode delves into personal anecdotes, professional collaborations, and the intricate dynamics of John Lennon's life post-Beatles. The dialogue offers a rare glimpse into the behind-the-scenes moments that shaped the latter part of Lennon's career and personal life.
Milestone Reflections and Audience Engagement
Robert Rodriguez begins by acknowledging the approaching milestone of the 300th episode, reflecting on the podcast's ad-hoc numbering system and encouraging listeners to contribute their favorite moments and standout conversations from past episodes. He emphasizes the importance of listener involvement in commemorating this achievement.
“It's a milestone. It is something I wanted to commemorate... handing the mic over to you, as it were.”
— Robert Rodriguez, [04:30]
May Pang's Current Endeavors
May Pang discusses her ongoing projects, including a touring photo exhibition across the United States and a significant trip to England earlier in the summer. She hints at a third visit slated for the new year and mentions her forthcoming book, set to release after the first of the year, possibly accompanied by a launch event.
“The book is coming that will be out after the first of the year... probably have some kind of book launch event as well.”
— Robert Rodriguez, [03:10]
Sponsorship and Episode Launch
The episode is sponsored by BetterHelp Online Therapy, marking their return as sponsors. Rodriguez extends seasonal greetings before transitioning into the main content featuring May Pang.
“Something about the Beatles is sponsored by BetterHelp Online Therapy... We will be glad to have them back.”
— Robert Rodriguez, [04:50]
Main Conversation with May Pang
Thanksgiving and Reflections on the Past
The conversation shifts to Thanksgiving, coinciding with the 50th anniversary of the Elton Show, where May Pang shares memories of John Lennon reflecting on past events.
“Thanksgiving this year coincided with the 50th of the Elton Show... It was like, brought to my attention somehow.”
— May Pang, [06:27]
John Lennon nostalgically recalls his life during that era, emphasizing the authenticity of their experiences and the common misconception that they were merely name-dropping.
“We live in such a world where we can't wait to just chastise somebody for whatever it might be.”
— John Lennon, [07:22]
John Lennon's Communication Style and Social Media
May Pang highlights John Lennon's knack for succinct communication, noting how his ability to convey profound messages in few words made him a natural for today's social media landscape.
“He can convey a message to all of us in five words or less... He was wired for Twitter.”
— May Pang, [08:35]
John Lennon concurs, reflecting on how his concise style would have thrived on platforms like Twitter, despite occasional misinterpretations of his statements.
“He's done. You know what he's looking for? That's a gift... He looked for democracy.”
— John Lennon, [09:02]
May Pang's Artistic and Professional Journey
May Pang discusses her photo exhibitions and interactions with notable figures like Chris O'Dell and Ken Womack in Liverpool. She shares heartfelt moments, including receiving an award for her contributions to Liverpool's Beatles history and reconnecting with key individuals from that era.
“I thank John Keats and Billy Heckel for all of this... And I saw Joan, who was Ringo's executive secretary...”
— May Pang, [12:00]
Apple and APCO Experiences
The dialogue delves into May Pang's tenure at APCO, working closely with John Lennon amidst the tumultuous Apple Records environment. She recounts memorable encounters with Barry Klein and the complexities of corporate dynamics during that period.
“It was hectic because they had just acquired Apple... Harold was a no nonsense guy.”
— John Lennon, [22:00]
Interactions with Fellow Artists
May Pang and John Lennon reminisce about interactions with fellow musicians, including Ringo Starr's brief appearance, Ringo's anecdotes about Badfinger, and lively exchanges with guests like Mick Jagger and Eric Clapton.
“And then, of course, George came in... That year, 1970, was a big year for it to start happening.”
— John Lennon, [27:00]
Creative Processes and Album Insights
Discussion centers on the creation of John Lennon's albums, particularly "Mind Games" and "Walls and Bridges." May Pang provides insights into the production nuances, Lennon's artistic decisions, and the challenges faced during album releases.
“When he did that record and why he was so proud of it... And he was on budget, and the album was $60,000.”
— John Lennon, [75:50]
Collaborations and Musical Legacy
The conversation explores John Lennon's collaborative spirit, touching upon his potential reunions with Paul McCartney, interactions with Elton John, and the lasting impact of his musical endeavors. May Pang underscores Lennon's dedication to crafting timeless music and his reluctance to let external narratives distort his legacy.
“He always wanted to do Only you... Another song that he loved was Fontella Bass Rescue Me.”
— John Lennon, [85:00]
Challenges and Misconceptions
May Pang addresses common misconceptions and inaccuracies found in memoirs and media portrayals of John Lennon. She emphasizes her role as a reliable source of firsthand accounts, contrasting them with embellished or fictionalized narratives.
“But I wouldn't call that John's stuff at all... I'm fighting a machine constantly.”
— John Lennon, [57:27]
Final Reflections and Future Prospects
As the episode nears its conclusion, May Pang hints at future discussions and potential follow-up episodes to further explore unresolved topics. John Lennon expresses his commitment to preserving authentic memories and resisting misrepresentations of his life and work.
“I try very hard because almost everything that people have come to me for different things, they've come to me because I'm the only one holding on to it.”
— John Lennon, [100:19]
Notable Quotes
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May Pang at [08:35]:
“He spoke in headlines.” -
John Lennon at [09:02]:
“He looked for democracy. That's his main thing.” -
John Lennon at [22:00]:
“Harold was a no nonsense guy. John loved him.” -
John Lennon at [75:50]:
“He knew what he wanted, he knew the sounds he wanted... He was so proud of that album.” -
John Lennon at [100:19]:
“I'm the only one holding on to it. I'm the only one with the memory.”
Conclusion
Episode 298 offers a profound exploration of John Lennon's life post-Beatles through the lens of May Pang's experiences. The candid conversations reveal the complexities of Lennon's personal and professional relationships, his artistic evolution, and the enduring legacy he left behind. Listeners gain valuable insights into the man behind the legend, underscoring the podcast's commitment to intelligent and entertaining examinations of The Beatles' music and career.
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