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Julian
Nothing wrong with the pussy. All right, welcome back to episode two of Something Wrong with the Podcast. It's Julian. Welcome back. Before we go anywhere, call this number, 877-557-SWWP to get in contact with me, your intrusive thought therapist. Now, guys, as I was setting up today, I was listening to a posthumous album from one of my favorite artists. If you know me, you know how much I love this artist. It's Mac Miller's Balloon Arism. Now, when the project came out, I had tweeted this. Any day is a good one when we have a reason to come together and celebrate Mac. I remember combing through old SoundCloud links trying to piece together this album when it leaked. Most likely recorded at Rick Rubin's Shangri La, Balloonerism is birthed from my favorite era of Mac Faces 2014. It's psychological dark and jazzy jam sessions, eerie thoughts fumbling over low tempo drums. Happy Balloon Day now. I love watching the crowd swell of support on the timeline. Anytime Mac is brought up or trending or more music from him is becoming into the space. It is amazing how timeless and ageless his music is. This sounded like it could have dropped 20 years ago in 2014 when it was recorded, or even 50 years from now. He has a special way of, of using lyrics and sounds that sound futuristic and ageless. He does not like rapping about a very specific like phone or product that dates the song, which I think is a very technical skill that a lot of rappers, a lot of great rappers use. I also have here, I bought this a couple of years ago after his passing. The. It's called the Book of Mac. It's to my knowledge, the only book that his parents supported. His mother's a photographer. I believe this is a photo of hers that she took. It's really cool. It's a lot of anecdotes and personal stories of people that were friends of Mac, collaborated with him and we're just, you know, in and out of his life at different parts of his career. And it covers a lot of that faces Balloon era, which I speak highly about, unfortunately. I believe that's when Mac was at his low. But to me, that is, you know, you know, to the tortured poet, the time in which he was putting out his best sounding music. And coming off the heels of Mac in launching my show, I had a great sense of overwhelming support and a newer. A newer appreciation and sense of community. So I wrote a letter again and today's letter goes out to the good in people positivity usually is reserved for our family and those we care about. However, in entertainment, more specifically the podverse, people look for good and are often mired in pain. Since I launched this show, I felt a great strength of community. I've received emails from people wanting to help lend a hand with the show, offering their professional services free of charge. I've jumped in a couple of Twitter spaces hosted by my guy Danny from the Stop, another hard working creator. In those spaces I've gotten a lot of constructive criticism and learned about new tools I plan on implementing, such as Livestream Services OBUS Project in Riverside. Although I will say the negativity is intoxicating, my Twitter feed is a doom scroll of people getting shot, knocked out, electrocuted or flattened by a power hydraulic. I don't follow any of those pages, and yet that content still finds a way When I was younger, ISIS beheading videos swept the dark web. I spent hours dodging viruses, combing through sites to witness the realities of war. As an adult, I've spent time examining what it is that makes us want to watch the bad. Why do we slow down when we see a car crash on the highway? Why do we yearn for the knockout punch? Perhaps it's because people were in constant need to remind ourselves that it could always be worse. That in a corner of the world there's someone enduring a level of pain you may potentially experience. But for now, you're in the clear. After announcing this podcast, I was immediately overcome with emotions. I cried in this room, actually, after seeing the support, because the entire time I thought I was alone. I was in a really dark place but felt obligated to build something, something nobody could take from me. I didn't want my negative experiences to chip away at the good I see in people. Don't let your losses make you calloused. Tap into your community. If you need a hand, don't be afraid to ask. And if you can lend one, let people know you're available. All right? Speaking of needing a hand and letting people know you're available. As I'm spreading and pushing all this positivity, the reality is we are heading into a very dark four year period. The inauguration happened last week on Martin Luther King Day. Unfortunately. He would have loved that, and I'm very solemn about what we have in storage for the next four years. There are a lot of topics I want to cover, so let's get into it. It seems at this point there are three guarantees in life, death, taxes, and the Kansas City Chiefs making it to another Super Bowl. Yes, guys. The fifth appearance in six years and they've officially crossed into the. No one likes them. It's a dynasty. There's a delicate balance between. We're rooting for you on your upward trajectory. We'll love you for a little bit of your success. But when you hit that ultra echelon that so few, that rare air that so few people accomplish, you're public enemy number one. The Chiefs are so unlikable that Philly, who is unquestionably the worst fan base in sports across the board, the country, is uniting at least for one weekend to root for them against the Swifty army, the Mahomes brigade, all of the Chiefs nation, all that stuff. Everyone wants that to crumble and everyone wants to see the Chiefs lose. Let's talk about the games themselves. Yesterday, the Philly was unstoppable on the run. Saquon got his shit off. I love that because every time he does that, it's just a bigger middle finger to the Giants and how big of a mess up. And you know, the more egg gets thrown on their face. And then you look at the other game, say what you want about the calls, the controversy, the fourth and one where Josh Allen got stuffed. One, the one judge called it a first down. They were. The other judge said he was short. They called it short. There was a lot of things point the fingers at the refs, I get it. But in close games throughout the season, it seems like the Chiefs always find a way to win. So with that, if Philly can run the ball successfully like they did yesterday, then I will take them because Saquon is unstoppable. Once he gets that much space, once he has time to cook, it's over. But if the Chiefs can contain the run and it becomes a game of passing and a game of, you know, strategy, really throwing, it's hard to root against. It's not hard to root against. It's hard to not take Mahomes in that situation. So I think we're set up for a very, very telling Super Bowl. Obviously, I haven't spoken since SZA was added to the super bowl halftime show. I did actually touch briefly on this in the YouTube live stream that I did. Thank you everybody that came out. But during that stream, I basically said, you know, obviously Kendrick could do this alone. He has the hits, he has the catalog. That's not the issue. I think this is beautiful because this is another example of, you know, regardless of their situation, the TDE PG language, there's still some. There's still symbiotic in the sense that their lives will always be tied together and they are rooting for each other and the successes that come along with that. And a lot of that is going to be shared success. So it's awesome that Kendrick and SZA are going on tour, and I think it's amazing that Kendrick's going to have SZA come out at the Super Bowl. Do I think it's going to become a SZA show? No, I think they'll do maybe one or two songs together and she might get, you know, the time to do a solo song while Kendrick gets his breath for the scene of to break up his act. But it's beautiful. I think it's nice that they're in TDE and PG Langer in this space where they're obviously mega stars, both of them, and I think it's beautiful that they still find time to collaborate and work together. Speaking of collaborating and work together, that was the community being the theme of my letter earlier, I wanted to address the spaces that Joe hosted through this past weekend. On Sunday, the one that I jumped into as a listener and because I saw my name in the header and Joe and everyone in there were talking about me. And then Joe invited me to speak. And Joe, it was our first time ever speaking. Joe asked me some good questions and we had a very peaceful conversation. Other people joined in, felt the need to provide pushback. It wasn't argumentative. I listened, as did Joe. I provided reasoning for why, you know, I may have moved differently in the past. And we went on. I didn't think anything of it. The person, the gentleman that was critiquing me and my decision to be in the space was pretty passionate about it, but I respect his opinion. And then that was it. I went about watching the playoff games and my night went on, but I woke up and saw that I guess the spaces had continued throughout the day and into the night. And I saw, you know, the clips on Twitter, the YouTube think pieces that are going out, and I couldn't, like, quantify why this was such a big deal. So then I. I spent this morning having my coffee and writing and just thinking about why was this such a big deal? That Joe asked me like three or four questions, none of which had to do with the podcast, really. And we had a great conversation and I was stuck on it. And I was reading comments and I was reading the reaction videos to watching the reaction videos and seeing, like, all these theories and conspiracies and the rhetoric being created, the new rhetoric being created about me. And I was fascinated by how people got to this point. And I just, to me, I think it's more simple than people are making it out to be like. For me, you can choose not to like the decision has someone has made in their personal life, but understand the impact that they have in a work environment. So let's bring this to outside of the podverse. Let's scale up here. We're coming off the heels of one of the most polarizing elections in American history. Obviously, if Trump's involved, you know it's going to be since every time he's involved, it's always a disaster. But at the same time, amidst all the mudslinging, name calling, millions, hundreds of millions of dollars being spent smearing their opponent's name. What did Trump say Kamala stands for? They them. I stand for you. All of that aside, we see a Jimmy Carter's funeral. And again, weeks later at the inauguration, Obama and Trump reading over the program, you know, laughing, giggling, allegedly they were scheduling a meeting time to meet and speak about Trump's plan in office. And I can't help but look at that and be like, that's what this is supposed to be like. Not just, again, not just the pod world human existence is supposed to be. That is that no matter what's going on or no matter how things are being portrayed, there's still a relationship that can develop and a respect that can be had because the common goal is the same in politics. The common goal is how do we better the country, regardless of our differences. The mission is to make this country prosper so you can be across the table from your enemy.
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Rory
But.
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Julian
But in that moment, still find the shred of common ground. And I say that because a lot of people saw me go on spaces and say, well, damn. For someone that tweeted about Joe's DV has made fun of him in the past, it's weird that he's in this space talking to him. Well, just because Joe and I talked once, mind you, this was literally the first time we ever spoken to each other, doesn't mean I abed everything that he stands for. And I wanted to direct this next part to Rory because I saw later that evening, Sunday night, he was talking in spaces about me that was in there earlier. Talking about talking about talking. And I, I know Mal feels strongly about this stuff, but with respect to Mal, Mal, I know Maul will never get on the spaces. He won't say anything publicly. I'm sure he said a lot of words to the People that he trusts and the people that he, you know, is working with in private, in the studio. Because I used to be in the studio and I used to hear what Mal would say about people, which is fine, but to Mall's credit, he'll never speak publicly about this stuff. So I want to make it clear, like the distinguished. The distinction here is, I know they're packages as a, As a. As a duo, but I'm only speaking to Roy because he's the one that's been speaking. So then I had the thought, I said, okay, well, you sat next to him for years, him meeting Joe, and back then we knew all that we know now. And I'm alluding to the, to the. Did the dv and all the stuff that you have also said you believe is true, but for 40 grand a month, that's kind of where it ended. Like you were making that kind of money and the expectation wasn't the same. So then I thought, okay, well, was it because the show was too entertaining or was being, number one, an excuse for Joe's alleged abhorrent behavior? And it's tough because it looks like I'm being held to a different standard than you were. And I want to talk to everyone that's saying I jumped ship. I was accountable when I was with Rory and Maul. I was accountable for the people that I was working for. But I'm also true to my opinions. Me speaking with Joe isn't me turning my back on my former tweets or jabs over the years. I still stand on that stuff. I just think Joe and I can talk, as does he, as you saw in the space. Again, my point being, Barack and Trump, they don't agree on shit, if anything at all, but they can still talk. Is Obama a traitor to the Democratic Party? Because now there's photos and videos of him smiling next to Trump. I also saw in a different space, not in the space from last night. Someone had sent me or posted it somewhere. I came across it and it was like Rory had said, this was the line from it. Rory said he would have given me a proper send off and even promoted my podcast and quote, held me down until I got going. But after I got fired, I believe three or so episodes came out of the podcast, where to this point, my podcast wasn't a thing. There was no reason, there was nothing to promote. I had that tweet, hey, it was been great. You guys will hear from me soon. That's all I had said at that point. But then I put out the Video with the thank you to everybody, the community video, and, you know, no support there. Fine, I didn't expect anything. But then I made the podcast announcement, no support there. Which, again, I don't expect anything. But it's. I just find it odd that, like, you're saying you would have. You would have given me a proper send off. You're the owner of the company. You can do that thing. You can do it. You're the person in the power, in the position of power to give me the proper send off. You could have given me the send off that you said you would like to have, instead of the 22nd footnote that I was given at the end of an episode sandwiched between a Patreon plug and then the thing with holding me down is interesting because that doesn't add up. To me, that's an oxymoron. You didn't want to pay me more when I was working, and as a business decision, you fired me, which I get. But then you're saying, well, there's a world where we could have paid you. I would have opened up my wallet, even though I fired you just to get you back on your feet. That confuses me. I was working three years. I was. I was working. I was paid. I was doing work. But you want to pay me because after I get fired, I got fired. I don't expect any financial gain from you guys. That's what being fired is. I just found that odd. That's. That's just. That doesn't. To me, that's. That doesn't make any sense. I don't ask for money from the person that fired me. That decision means. Inherently, means the financial ties between us are severed. So what's the takeaway here? When I look back on the breadth and depth of the time I spent, the three years I spent working on the podcast, it was positive and contributed in many ways to building my career, to connecting with people. Ultimately, a podcast is connecting with a community. I can state that the connections that were made were overwhelmingly positive and not just from my perspective. We as creators benefited as well as you as listeners, benefited. Whether that means you had a laugh because work has been difficult, or we put words to feelings that you, the listener, were unable to express for whatever reason. Growth comes from struggle, and growth comes from the hard truths. Humans have a tendency to rest on their laurels when things are going well, but we all grow when we are forced to make decisions, either with the support of a community or on our own. In this way, once again, I see that the growth in my life has come from struggle. Hey everyone, let's take a quick break to talk about today's sponsor, Birk Stop Candle Company now on my YouTube livestream. This past Friday, I received a message from Michael, the owner and founder of BergStop Candle Company. If you know anything about me, you know I love to travel with a candle. I go upstate to see my parents. I bring a candle, I go across the country to la, I bring a candle, I go across the pond to London. I'm bringing a candle. It's very comforting and it's something I recommend if you travel a lot. I just like the smell of my own space everywhere that I go. And of course, I bring a book of matches both to do magic tricks and to light these candles. Guys, the awesome thing about these candles is they're all golf themed. I spend a lot of time trying to golf in the summer, most of the times unsuccessfully. But when I go upstate and I golf with my dad, my dad's a beast. 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Yes, that is a brand new song and no, that is not paid for Royalty music. That song is produced by Billboard chart topping a producer trio out of Denmark named Up North. Thank you guys for messaging me. This is again with the theme of the episode being community. They reached out to me on Instagram after the first episode, said, hey, we'd love to make an original song or jingle for you to help the show. I said, sure. How about something ahead of voicemails? They sent me one draft. It was cool. And then we'd made a little bit of adjustments. And this was the one that. That we're rolling with. Thank you, guys. And you guys are already killing it. You're doing great. But continued success. Shout out to the homies in Denmark. I've got to go to Copenhagen. I have some friends out there. Let's get into the first voicemail.
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Caller 1
Hey, what's up, Julian? I'm not going to say my name just in case this goes viral. My coworker has really bad breath. It is mentally breaking me. He's relatively new to the company. He just joined my project team. I can't seem to create any distance between him and I. His breath is so bad to the point where today he asked me a question and kind of pinned me in a corner. I don't really like that he asked me a question. And when I caught a whiff of his breath, I had to plug my nose, and my co worker saw what I did. I feel like I'm at a point where I'm gonna have to address the elephant in the room before people start saying, oh, why is he being a dick? Why is he being a jerk? No, no, no. This man's breast sticks. He doesn't wear deodorant. He smells bad. Thank you for listening.
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Julian
I'm glad this was a safe space for you to get. Get that off your chest, man. I'm really sorry. That's. That sucks. I have worked with someone that has some funky breath. Is not fun. So what can you do? Well, why not drop some subtle hints? So bear with me here. Okay? Why not start rapping or, like, play music at your desk? And it's walk it out. And the lyric, is she want. Oh, is it the double mint twins? And you look at, like, double mint. You focus on him when the mint part comes up. Like, remember those commercials? There was great. Also great gum. See if that works. Maybe not that song. If he's younger. Let's try Tyler sticky pop that shit. Like I'm popping some gum. And again, you're dropping the gum bar. Maybe you dig into your pocket and pull out a bunch of mints, and a couple fall on his desk. He's like, you could have them. I got plenty. You know, I think you just. You just got to lean in with the subtleties. You could show what it feels like to chew five gum. That was a great marketing campaign. I feel like he's never experienced 5 Gum. Let them get a stick. What else can you do, man? Bring back the COVID mask. Why not? I mean, there was that whole era where people didn't Want to cover their nose Because America, my nose. Freedom. Well, you can bring it back, cover your nose or just. Shit. Why not take it a step further? You ever hear of a little hobby called beekeeping? Well, or fencing? If you're a beekeeper. You wear that big ass helmet. You could just wear that to the office. You're like, well, Julian, why would I wear it to the office? No, because you can tell them, although this is your 9 to 5, your. Your whatever. Is that old idiom that that's saying is, say your midnight to your 9. Is this hobby because you're saving the world? The environment, More specifically because of how much energy it takes to harvest avocados. And. And almond milk bees are a big part of that process. You can say I took this on because I'm an environmentalist. And sometimes when I come to the office, I forget to take the helmet off. What are you going to do about it? It smells great in here, though. It smells like 5 gum. What's. I don't know what's going on in the air out there. My colleague over there is holding his nose. Seems like you got something going on. You need to figure that out. I'm good in here it smells delicious. And here it smells like an Uber where they like put that scent shit in the fucking air conditioner. And then that becomes too much. That's too much. Stop doing that. You could also just say fuck it and go breath for breath. You could gnaw on a clove of garlic, rip a couple darts, and then just corner him. Get in his face by the water cooler like, hey, hey, hey, when's our meeting? Just breathe on him. Make him feel the pain that he puts the entire office through. And then if singling him out isn't enough, why not just if. If he. No, if no one can be happy, Screw it. We're past the point of. Of just singling him out. You have to alienate everybody. It's lunchtime. Forget the salad you usually get from Sweetgreen. Get a crab oil. Let's make it seafood airy in here. Let's make the air thick. Condensation air. Get a seafood boil. Bus crab legs all over the table. There's butter, juices, garlic scents. Fill the room up with stank. Then now you're the problem. It's easier to be the problem than try to fix the problem. That's the real win here. Just be the problem. Then make somebody feel like they have to approach you and then they'll feel like the bad guy and the cycle repeats. Itself. That's how the world works. Or, look, your new co worker, he's brand new. Could be medical. He could have halitosis, and in that case, yeah, you're just screwed. Sorry, buddy. Let's go on to the next call. This one is fun. Here we go. This little date advice.
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Caller 2
Okay, so, boom, I went on a date with this guy, right? And I work with kids on the spectrum, okay? So I'm talking to this guy. We've been talking for, like, about two weeks. Go on a date. Go to the Knicks game. Go Nicks.
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Julian
That's right.
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Caller 2
Unfortunately, lost. And I'm picking up on some traits that this guy has. He's telling me he only likes certain foods. He's telling me he's very adamant on schedules. He's telling me. Just picking up on a lot of things. Barely could barely even paint eye contact. Mind you, we are 30 years old.
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Julian
I feel like I know where you're going with this. I don't want to jump to conclusions. I'll see if you say it first.
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Caller 2
I don't know. I'm thinking, you know, hey, is he on the spectrum?
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Julian
Bingo.
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Caller 2
Nothing wrong with that, of course. I just want to know what your opinion is on this. Should I. Do he has season tickets to the Knicks? I don't know. Okay, bye.
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Julian
Look, I don't know what. What app you're swiping on, but it. Clearly you match with someone that has a touch of the tism. And there's. First thing for. There's nothing wrong with that. Tism comes with a lot of benefits. And I'm not just talking about those Nick tickets. We'll get to those. Obviously, that's. You're not getting rid of this man. There are Nick tickets involved. If you're. I mean, if he. If. If he's just most people, and it sounds like in this gentleman's case, he's working. Has these season tickets, which we. Again, I will not forget that he's probably a treasure, A treasure trove of knowledge. I mean, I feel like he's got the type of tism where he's just like an encyclopedia and you could just ask him anything and he would know the answer. He probably knows when GTA 6 is coming out. He probably knows the new flavor developments Haribou is doing for their gummy bears or what we should expect from Nestle in 2028. Like, I. There's so much upside in green to a relationship like that. Uh, you mentioned he finds it hard to maintain eye contact. Okay, eye contact's overrated. Why do you want to be looking into his eyes when you can watch Brunson cut through a defense and do his little fadeaway jumper, get to the rim and finish a layup? Why do you want eye contact when you watch Carl Anthony Towns pull up from three feet beyond a. The top of the key in drain A3? Why do you want eye contact when you can watch Josh Hart fly out of your peripheral and get a rebound? All you have to do is maintain the small talk until tip off and then hand him a stat sheet to fill out, give him, fill his pockets with gummies and candies and enjoy the game. The Knicks were the fifth best team in the league. The fifth best team in the league. You're not in a position to walk away from this. If you give up these tickets, I'll take them. I'll be his best friend. We can go tiz for tiz. I know stats about dumb, too. I would love to go to all these Knicks games. You're in a very, very blessed position. Do not squander this relationship over. What do you want? You want. You want to fuck him? The. The sex isn't going to be better than the Knicks games. Just enjoy the Knicks and, and, and relationships come and go. He's in your life for this time, and this time also happens to be when the Knicks are amazing. Enjoy it while it lasts, because not only will this relationship not last, but the Knicks being an elite team, will probably not last either. So just ride it out for my sake. Go to the game. Send me videos, please. Thank you. I can get passionate about my Knicks guys. Couple of good ones so far. Let's keep going.
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Vicious
Julian, what's good, bro? It's your boy Vicious from Las Vegas. I got a simple one for you. I quit smoking, like, five years ago, okay? I had a wild dream that I was, you know, performing with Usher or some shit down on the Strip and went to the casino after we blowing cigars and everything. And ever since that dream. Pause, by the way. Ever since.
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Julian
Yeah. Wait a minute. You had a dream about Usher and you're in the. On the Strip blowing cigars. You. You caught the pause, but. All right, we'll keep rolling because we've all had the celebrity dreams. Okay?
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Vicious
A dream, though. We, you know, I've been having this cigarette, like, fiend. I've been feeding it, and again, I want to, like, pick up the habit again. I was just wondering, like, if you, you know, ever quit anything and then, you know, off of it for a while and then it just comes back and you don't even know why. And like, you know, you halfway don't trust yourself. Like, I. I was in a little smoke shop the other day. I almost bought a pack of you spirits or some wild shit. So I don't know, just let me know if you ever experienced anything like that, if you know that feeling, what you did to overcome it. And keep up the good work, bro. Congrats on the new podcast, man.
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Julian
Well, thank you, Vicious. Shout out to Vegas. I've only been to Vegas twice. I want to go back. But I tell you what, man, boy, have you found the right person. Because if you know anything about me, it's, you know, I had. I kicked a little habit with the booger sugar, the nose candy, as our guy from eastbound and down would say. Hey, I heard you went to rehab. Rehab? Yeah, dude, what you heard? I didn't heard anything. Hurt my nose. So, yeah, I. I'm three years clean now. But I do recall, I mean, five years. Kudos to you. I mean, first, that's awesome. But I do recall in probably around when I was six months, in maybe about a year, I would start having dreams. It's funny, you dropped the usher when you guys were smoking in the sauna or whatever you said. I used to have dreams that I was in like a Vegas space and like Bruno Mars just did 24 karat magic. And he's coming off the stage and I hear, you know, everyone knows the stories and rumors about Bruno, and he's coming down this with this tray, this beautiful, like gorgeous silver, stainless steel silver plate tray filled with just gator tail lines of the finest, finest china. And he's, you know, handed me $2. Steve is there and he's handing me a bill to fucking run a line. And I've had these dreams, not recently, but, you know, in the past. And I feel like you got to realize that this is a part of the journey and your. Even though it's been five years, it seems like you're physically, I would say, have kicked the addiction. But your mind may, you know, every once in a while flutter back to those memories and be reminded of the times when you did smoke. I will guarantee this, if smoking, smoking doesn't come with the benefit of meeting Usher, there's no upside to your celebrity endorsement and blowing down cigars with, you know, one of the kings of pop. So I would stay away from thinking, okay, well, if I smoke, then A, B and C will happen in my life. Those things aren't going to happen. You're just going to Pick up a shitty habit. Again, I don't fall for it. Your mind is calling back to the addiction for a reason. Maybe look into. Do you have stress going on at work? Do you have something going on in your personal life? And is your mind doing the thing where your neurons are firing? And how would you deal with stress in the back? Well, vicious five years ago when you were stressed out, you would step outside and smoke an American spirit. Or Vicious, that one time you were the boss, was mad at something you did. Performance wise, you needed a 10 minute break. You just stepped outside, smoked a cigarette. It could just be your body wanting to revert back to the very thing you would do to calm your nerves and bring yourself it to ease. And they will try to bring you back your body and your mind. But you, you have to, as good as it does sound to share a couch with Usher and smoke. You can't, you can't fall for it, man. You're doing great. You can't sit next to Usher and be like, yo, I'll go, I'll blow bigger O's than you and start doing smoke tricks with Usher. It's not worth it. Your health's not worth it. And five years is nothing. That's a big deal, man. That's a, that's like nothing to scoff at. That's huge. You don't want to throw 5 years away cuz you had a dream. What are you gonna dm Usher? Man, I was five years clean, but I fucking, I burned through a pack because I thought we were gonna smoke together. Or I just dreamed of smoking together and it broke me. Don't let Usher break you. Pause. Put on confessions. I don't know if you're in a relationship. I find a lady, man, whoever. Laugh about it. Tell them. Be like, yo, can you believe I thought I was gonna, you know, had this dream that Usher and I were gonna smoke cigars together. And I almost broke my habit of smoking. Can you believe I almost did that? You got to like laugh at yourself. Can you believe I almost threw it all away? Can you believe I almost went and bought a pack of cigarettes for this bullshit Also cigarettes in this economy, I don't know how much they are in Vegas, but in New York they're like 30 a pack. Something like that. Don't quote me. That's what I think they are. It's insane. You don't want to go down that. It's, it's not only is it a bad habit for you, it's an expensive habit. And now you're just taking on more of a weekly monthly allowance. A cost for something that's ultimately going to kill you. Yeah. Don't smoke. Keep it up. You're doing great, man. Next one. Let's see what we got.
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Caller 3
Man. What's up, Julian? I need your help, man. Kind of new to this whole dating app thing. And I matched with this one girl, started talking to her, kind of cool. Then another girl that I kind of like more, I messed with started texting the first girl already. But then the second girl wanted to FaceTime, so we kicked it off. So then I stopped texting the first one.
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Julian
Okay.
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Caller 3
Then I didn't text her for, like, three days. And then she hit me up like, yeah, you must not like me or something or something like that, you know? But now I want. How do you explain. Should I tell her that I mess with somebody else that I like more and that's why I didn't text her back? Or shall just not text her back at all. Peace.
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Julian
Well, welcome to the world of the dating apps. It's a wild west. It's a wild scene out there. It sounds like you're doing well. I'd love to look at your profile and see how you're. You're serving yourself. Pause to the. To the female community. It seems like you made your decision on which one you want to talk to. You know, you had rhythm with girl number one. Girl number two comes along a little more aggressive. You get right to the FaceTime. There's a bit more of a. Of a advancement, a stronger rapport. And unfortunately, it Sounds like girl 1 is a casualty of the dating app. I don't think there's more to it. It just seems like girl number two's relationship was developing facts faster. What I would advise, though, because you're saying, in a sense, you sound like a good guy, and you. You. You sound. At least this call could have gone. I saw this going one of two ways, and you chose the correct route. The other route is, well, I like girl number two, but I also like girl number one. And I'm gonna try to see if I could, like, you know, leverage the two of them and keep them both. How do I keep them both around? And you didn't ask that you very. As a gentleman and politely want to know, how do you go about girl number one, the one you don't want to see anymore? I wouldn't ghost her. You're an adult, and so is she. And two adults were talking through a dating app. I think the assumption when you're on a dating app is you're talking to multiple people. These aren't, you know, once you are in a chat, these aren't mutually exclusive. You're on an app where you can swipe from her and hit another chat. Girl number two. All right, so girl number two, there's more rhythm. You're on a FaceTime. You've seen her face. You've heard her voice. There's more real. It's more real. It's realism to that. It's not a simple text exchange. It's not a blip notification on your phone. You're in your crib seeing this woman, seeing her face, seeing her emotions, hearing her inflection. That's more personal with girl number one. Don't. Don't leave her in the dark. She's an adult. I think people appreciate the. I know. We always. We always chase closure. There's this thing in us, all of us, we always want closure in our. In our television, in our movies, in our books, in our. In our personal lives, in our work relationships. Everyone chases closure. And I think this is an instance where you can. You should owe her that. Maybe say, hey, like, you know, I want to be transparent. My relationship with someone else at this point has developed further, and I'd like to explore that for now. You know, wishing you the best. And, you know, that's not a. Don't say this to her, but I'm talking to you directly. That's not a goodbye by any means. Say, you know, girl two. It doesn't ultimately work out and you're at least leaving the door open for girl one. It's not. I think ghosting her is shitty because it'll make her feel like she did something wrong when you said yourself that she hasn't. And it'll also. If your play is to potentially leave the door open or, you know, develop a friendship or more serious relationship or even just casually hooking up, I think that's just the more mature, manly way to go about it. Even though it seems like I don't know how long you guys were talking, you didn't give a time frame. But no matter how inconsequential the amount of time is, I'm sure she'd like to know why, what happened. And I think a text like that, whether she responds or not, I think. I think she would. Okay, understood. I don't think she'll be like you. This is, you know, the. How could you? You guys were never that far. It was never that serious. I think that's just a mature and adult thing to do. Congrats to you, though. Jumping into the dating app scene and finding someone you're already, you know, interested in enough to sever ties from anyone else you're talking to. That's. That's. You sound like a good dude. That what I deem some of my friends. I call them girlfriend guys. You sound like you. You're. You're good on your own, but you love. You love to love, and you love a relationship, and I hope you and girl two here work out. But, yeah, let girl one know. No bad blood. Just want to be transparent talking to somebody else, you know. Wishing you the best. I think that that's a safe way to go about this. This next one. This is. This is a long voicemail, so. So strap in. Pause.
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David
Hi, Julian David from Chicago suburbs. I don't know. I have a friend question.
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Julian
You said Chicago suburb. This sounds like Evanston or Naperville or one of those. One of those suburbs. Definitely a northern suburb of Chicago.
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David
So I'm 28, and I had a pretty close, you know, close circle of friends. I had my, you know, growing up friends, and then I had my college friends, and we kind of all stayed in the same vicinity because. And I. And a couple of us have, like, the same career path. We just, you know, work in different sectors of the legal field.
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Julian
Mm.
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David
I started, you know, dating a girl. We were single. Like. Like, the friend group was single. And then I started dating this girl. She's great. We've been dating for over a year, and she's the opposite of me socially. She's, like, super bubbly, really chill girl. I really like her, but she really bonded with one of the girls in my friend group, and me and the friend are beefing at the moment, and I don't know if I should be the bigger person and try to patch things up because they've developed their own friendship or if things, you know, hit the fan. Do you think it's fair of me to ask my girlfriend, in the event that we break up, for her to stop communicating with my friend? Because I've known my friend for, you know, almost eight years now.
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Julian
No, wait, hold on. Let's finish this.
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David
But ever since we've been dating, they've started to get close, and I'm kind of, like, in this mode where I want to be selfish and tell her, like, you're.
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Julian
You said you snitched on yourself and you work in a legal field. I want to be selfish. So what you're saying to me already, all your moves moving forward regarding her in this girl's relationship. The girl you're dating and the friend that you're no longer cool with, you're saying up front it's selfishly motivated. So let's. Okay, let's finish a little more here.
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David
You don't get the benefit of dating me and getting my friend.
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Julian
All right? You don't get the benefit of dating. Benefit? What are you, health insurance? What do you. What do you mean, benefit? Who are you? Okay, you're the prize. Okay, let's keep going.
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David
I also don't want to, you know, seem like she can't have her own relationship with. With, you know, my friend.
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Julian
Don't say that. Don't say that. I don't want to make it seem like she can't have a relationship with another friend. With my other friend. That's what you're doing. You're not saying, I don't want to make it seem. That's what you do. You said here, selfishly, I want to tell her. You said in your own words, selfishly, I want to tell her. You don't get the benefit of dating me and getting my friend. So now you're making this your girl choose between you and the friend. And then three lines later you say, I don't want to. I don't want to have her think, you know, that. I'm making her make a decision. You are. You're making her make a decision.
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David
I don't know. I'm just thinking out loud. Hopefully that made sense. And good luck with the pot.
- [46:38]
Julian
Thanks, David. Well, thank you for the words of encouragement. David, I. You're a smart guy. You're a lawyer. You're from the north. You're from Chicago burbs. You're a 28 year old man. Dude, this isn't. Don't hit her with the. The. I'm. I deserve. I want what. I want this to work out how I want to see it, how I see it best. You can't do that. That's not fair to your girl. That's not fair to the girl that she's become friends with that you're currently beefing with. I think it would be interesting. I mean, as a lawyer, I would hope you would pour out all the information necessary unless you. Why did you and this friend fall out? Did she do something foul to you? Did you do something foul to her? What was the fallout and what was the level of fallout? Are we talking. I'm never talking to her again. Are we talking, like, is this friendship timeout where we don't see eye to eye for two, three months, but we can hang out in the same room, function at the same party. We might give each other the pleasantry nod, but there's no conversation beyond that. We can function in the same space, but I'm not texting you or calling you or asking how you're doing or asking to hang out anymore. I've had spats of that. People go through that all the time, but never have I been seeing someone and they developed a friend with someone that I'm, like, kind of have a riff with, and I intervene and want to sever whatever relationship they have with that person again, pending the level of foul that this person committed to you or you committed to her that got you to this point. I don't think it's fair for you to play police. I also am just not over the fact that you said the benefit of dating me. I know you were. Are you swinging like that? David, what benefits are we talking about? Lawyers make great money, but this is a grown woman, and she's not your property. Like, you can't just lay claim to her and dictate who and how she interacts with other people. I don't think that's fair. I think you need to respect the thing with, with, with your ex friend or your. The girl you're currently having beef with. I think you should, you know, if you want to lay groundwork saying, like, hey, if you're hanging out with the. Let's call her Jane. If you're hanging out with Jane, and you know, I'm not cool with Jane right now, when you two are hanging out, like, just give me a heads up, like, I won't come over or like, I won't, you know, be a third wheel to whatever you guys got going on. When you're with Jane, it's just the two of you or a different friend group. And just know that when you're with her, I will want to be a part of it. I think that's fair. I think you can lay ground rules that make you feel better about you respecting your girlfriend and at the same time upholding your current beef or your current, you know, gripe with Jane. But I don't think you have to pin your girlfriend as this person where it's, it's either me or her. It's, it's, it's, it's one or the other. I don't think that's fair to her. And ask your friends. Tap into the friend group. Is it just a disagreement that you and Jane have or do other friends in your group also have a thing out for Jane? If it's just you, I would as a man wear that. Keep it to your. Not keep it to yourself. I think it's healthy to communicate. But if the energy that you get, the feeling that you get when Jane's in the room, don't make other people uncomfortable because you're the only person that's uncomfortable with this person, I don't think that's fair. I think that's selfish. In the past, I've done that. When I was younger, if I had a beef or a problem with someone, it's easy to. When you see them take jabs. The other, the other people in the friend group, like, say, did you see so and so? Can you believe you know that they're doing that? Like, it's, it's catty, it's petty, it's not mature. Don't move like that. Just hold it in and, and hopefully you and Jane in this scenario find a resolve. So I wish you the best, man. Thanks for calling. Let's do one more call. This has been a fun run so far. Let's see what we got.
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Rory
Hey, Julianne. So here's my situation. I managed. Well, how can I say this? I manage artists. And when I was first beginning in my career, I started to date one of my clients and we stayed together for a long time and we recently just broke up. And my question to you is, do you think I should continue to manage her? Our working relationship has soared since we have ended our personal relationship, but I don't know. I don't know if I should continue. And like, how should we navigate shows? Should we bring our people we're dating to our shows? Like, is it worth the mess? I would definitely, definitely, definitely love some advice. Miss you so much. Hope you're well.
- [51:52]
Julian
Bye. Oh, thank you. I love the. Look at this. Two episodes to lesbian couple Collins. This is interesting, but you gave me enough clarity for me to, I think, draw a confident conclusion. Do. You said you dated for years. Okay, I'm not sure how it ended, but it doesn't sound bad enough that there isn't a work relationship. You're still working together. And not only that, you said your relationship is soaring since you're no longer dating. So I don't get why stop. I would, I would ask you or I would liken you to think because in what you're telling me this is working, you're making it work. I would ask you to ask yourself, why is this becoming a concern now, because if it is soaring, as you're saying, then why would you want to stop something that's, you know, mutually rewarding? It sounds like it's going well for you as well as it is for her, so I don't know why you'd want to interfere with that. Is this a case where enough time is passing, you want to get. You want to get back with her, or are you seeing someone else? You said, if I'm seeing someone, should I not bring them around? Are you seeing someone else and you want to bring them to. You know, working in entertainment's cool. You want to see what your clients are working on, but it is a little muddy when the client is someone you used to scissor with, so you might want to. I just wouldn't recommend bringing a girl. I feel like the. Especially with the lesbian scene, where it's like, you. You know one thing, it's a handshake. A day later, you guys are moving in with each other. Maybe just like, keep them. Keep those two worlds apart, your romantic life and your work life for a bit. Even though it does sound like it didn't end bad. And you seem like you're doing all right. I don't know. I. I. Have you met a girl she's seeing? Are you interested in girl? She's saying, could you. Could you potentially collab in the bed? Not just work. Maybe it's the two of you and you find a little young harlot on the road in Minnesota or some like, you know, bum small town, and you. You get it on in a Motel 8 for a night and then go about your business, signing contracts, kissing babies, autographing dildos, whatever you guys do. I did. I think you're jumping the gun at ending something that isn't going poorly yet. Unless there's information you're withholding from me, I don't see why this working relationship should end. It sounds like you're both handling it like mature adults and life goes on. Like we said with our previous caller with the tism in the Knicks guy. Look, relationships happen. And more often than not, they end as well. But again, you're in a position where that relationship is just taken on another form. It's professional. Now, if you guys keep it professional, then the relationship doesn't need to go any beyond. Any further beyond that. I just wouldn't try to embarrass her, make her feel jealous. Avoid all those things. Don't be petty. But obviously, if. If this artist is doing something that's benefiting you financially, and it's also financially benefiting her. It's in both of your best interest to keep this thing going, so keep it going. I'd also love to know the artist. You can message me and let me know. I'd like to check out her music. I do not have to share that if you don't want me to on the on the show, but I am curious to who you're speaking about. I'd love to listen in support, and if you're in New York, go to a show. All right, guys, that is it for today's episode. Welcome again, Episode two. We are in the books, guys. I could not thank you enough. My letter in the beginning of the episode about Community is everything to me, and I really mean it. Until next time, stay safe. Have a great week. I'll see y'all next week. Sa.