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Hey hey hey hey hey. Welcome Back to episode 48 of Something Wrong with the Podcast. It's your boy Julian. We have a very heavy music episode. I'm in a very good mood. Maybe I'll share why later on in the episode. But but let's just jump into today's hottest stories starting locally here in hip hop. In the music scene, Hot 97 abruptly has come to an end, which is honestly quite startling. So since 2012, co host Ebro, Peter Rosenberg and Laura Stiles provided listeners with their hot takes, celebrity gossip, blah blah blah. We get the brief. While Darden has publicly aired his theories about the cancellation, which we will get to in a minute, the station has yet to officially confirm the reason for the sudden decision. Leaving the Internet to speculate. Ebro. They all took to Twitter. Ebro did a tweet and said it's done. Period. More to come. Period. Ebro in the morning. Obviously referring to the cancellation of the show, Laura Stiles added in a tweet of her own, we had the best time, the most beautiful listeners and got to work with legends I love. I'm so proud of the work we did together. I have so many. I made so many of my dreams of Hot 97 and got to work with my best friends and best friends don't let go. Trust me. And tagging Ebro and Rosenberg, Ebro, Rosenberg and I have more plans coming in the next year. With three hearts, Rosenberg also took to online to also give his thoughts as well. Ebro. So again, the station hasn't deliberately said why they were canceled. Ebro has been theorizing and he took to Instagram live to share some of his thoughts and he believes he was targeted because of his progressive views, particularly how outspoken he was about Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. In another video he said that there were economic interests, including the casino deal and how Trump was involved with some of these things as well. Here's the quote. The guy that owns the owns One of the casino licenses. He's got to raise a half a billion dollars. They need my talking anti Netanyahu, anti government progressive out of the way, bro. They trying, they're trying to get bags, they want to get VC to raise some capital. Ebro continued to just go down what he believes is the reason that led to the firing or cancellation, I should say of the show. And then in this process, obviously word travels fast, especially in hip hop. And Drake, a longtime enemy of sorts of Alvibro, took to Twitter. He commented on an Instagram post that was reporting the firing. It was some Toronto based media Instagram page. He commented, an axe emoji. An emoji I don't think I've seen in years, which is now becoming of course quite popular. Hence the Drake effects still exists, especially when it comes to pettiness. He commented in ax. And we thought it ended there, but as of a few minutes ago of this recording, Ebro shared a screenshot of an exchange he had with Drake following this news as well. So yes, we publicly saw the ax, but then Drake also went ahead and DM this to Ebro on his personal Instagram account. This is from Drake. Die slow pussy. We got some shit for you. To which Ebro responded, relax, you're salty about losing to Kendrick. You're not mad at me. Love, bro. So this is, it's, it's interesting. I think there's a lot at play. You also have to take into account that other longtime enemy of Ebro in the morning show DJ Academics went on his live stream and put together an insanely long is over an hour, about an hour or so of him just dragging his timeline and relationship from start to beginning with Ebro in particular more targeted at Ebro. I actually wasn't too familiar. He said he exposed Rosenberg's wife cheating on him, which led to their divorce. I was honestly not aware of that, but that's shitty. But to the Ebro point, as vitriol and as like personal as academics is like gripes and retorts and criticism can be, I really do think when you cut through the weeds of a lot of the anger that he says there is a smattering of truth in there as well. It's just kind of. You just have to really look for it and act does do a really good job of pulling those old clips and referencing old moments that validate his thoughts and feelings towards Ebro. So for those that aren't familiar, Academics started solo Creator online and had an early interview with Charlemagne. He wanted the same from Ebro, they saw he had worked with Charlamagne and said, hell no. You're working with like the Ops. Get out of here. We will never work with you. So just setting that barrier up really early. And then obviously Academics becomes quite successful and has his own, his own platform. And it seems like they remained at odds. And then there were all these, you know, there's. Ebro started as a program director and then put himself on the show and put his name as the. The header. The header of the show. And then Academics really did a pretty solid job of like explaining how he compares Ebro to Diddy in this situation. Meaning that Ebro was always supposed to just be a behind the scenes guy. But like Diddy couldn't run away from the spotlight. So he inserted himself in front of the camera as a part of the the show. Even though he was never billed or built to be a person in that position, which there I do disagree with. Although, yes, like, he leveraged his power in the company. Ebro is a very good journalist and is quite good at the job of like, you know what, what that job actually holds as well. But nevertheless. So there were one clip in particular that really stuck with me that Academics pulled out. The vault is an early interview, I believe from 2018 or 17 with Lil Uzi Vert at Hot 97. And it's Uzi at the radio station table with Rosenberg and Laura Styles next to him and Ebro across the table. So there's this. The power position and dynamic is established and Uzi wanted to freestyle. Ebro puts on a really like old, you know, Nas type beat situation. And Uzi said, look like that's not what my fans want to hear. I don't want to rap over some old beat. Like my fans know me play something that I would twitch. Ebro is like, basically is like, you're not important enough. We will see how long your career lasts. You're not going to be here that long. And Uzi said, I'm a rock star. He kept referring to himself as a rock star. I do rock star things, I'll always be a rock star, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think it's safe to say you could fast forward and obviously see that Lil Uzi was right in this situation and Eber was wrong. But there were some things that Blue Uzi had mentioned in that conversation that were in the, in the moment were getting overlooked and even scoffed at that have really aged like a fine wine over time. Let me try to find exactly here. So Uzi basically said, like criticize Them of not and more so Ebro directly of not changing with the times, being rigid and only in having like this gatekeepy energy where he's not accepting or even willing to appreciate at all the new wave of hip hop. We're talking SoundCloud rap days currently. And what I find interesting in that statement, and it is a clip that really exposes some of like Ebro's rigidness and like unwillingness to adhere and adapt to the current. Which is quite foolish because if you look at music like that's what hip hop is, that's what music is. But it's certainly hip hop like it is, it's, it's ever changing. There's always something new and it's not like keep up or get lost. But you can't just write off a generation because at one point you're peers were that generation, the rebellious ones that, you know, made the genre what it is today. Everything's, you know, just an extension of itself. So I think with older podcasters and older media journalists, there is this constant need to preserve the hip hop that they love. The NAs, the Js, the, the old guard, the, the guys that really, you know, were the launch pad of this. But I do believe, and this is where I do agree with academics and Uzi in that clip as well, like not being flexible and not embracing fluidity is a really dangerous tool when it comes to an industry that skews more on the younger side. So even if you're looking at, let's take it beyond this conversation and even into, into products like I think strength, strength in itself doesn't necessarily mean how much tension something can withhold. So in this example, let's look at like a window, a nice window. Why are, why are the best windows are flexible, even on skyscrapers, there's a little bit of flex to them because if you're looking at, you know, 50, 60 mile an hour winds, like in a skyscraper, and that wind sweeps across a window and it doesn't have any give to it. There's no flexibility. It cracks because it's so rigid and stiff. Pause. That there's no give and take. And I think that can even extend beyond this window example and further into. If you look at the evolution of animals and even people, of homosexuals, of homo sapiens, we, those that lived, those that lasted are ones that can adapt and change. With climates, with massive shifts in really weather is really probably the most important thing. But even adapting to food and being able to adapt to changes in dietary based on the region in which you're from sun exposure, certain types of hair grow certain places, eye colors more normal and common in certain places. These are all signs of adapting and evolution and being flexible over time, which I do think is a key thing that is often overlooked in not just this example with the Ebro showing his ass, so to speak, here in some of these clips, but also just like expanding beyond life. I think it's quite foolish to bottleneck yourself into one version of the world, the world that only you and your generation knows, and think that anything that challenges that or expands beyond that is either stupid or is something that is irrelevant and not as important. And I think that level of thinking comes from a discomfort with the other. Your inability to understand and know something beyond what you've been taught is scary because because it challenges your beliefs and it could lead you to change your beliefs. We experienced this a lot on the old show. It's not like a shot at all, but like Maul in particular, we often would say like you are so stuck in your ways that when we bring certain things, Damaris, Rory and myself would always just try to understand and try to crack this foundation. But Mal is very rigid and he had no give. So that's again just another example. But I do think that was an interesting piece of journalism that that act did and I and I am curious to see what their pivot is. It sounds like they plan on keeping the the show intact in some regard. It is interesting that AX said you guys made fun of me for years about being a YouTube creator and making an earning on YouTube saying that that that that that would that saying that YouTube is not a platform and now look the way E World starts. His video is in the car saying subscribe to my YouTube which is, you know, some prophetic for AK. I'm sure he's relishing in this news today.
