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Roan
Hey. Son of a boy. Dad. Listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.
Sass
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Sass
What do you got there, hairball?
Harry
Bunch of goodies.
Roan
For himself. For himself.
Harry
Shout out to touch.
Sass
Douche. Got you this.
Harry
Oh, yeah.
Sass
What the.
Roan
Let's get this. Let's get this live on the show.
Sass
I introduced you to Tush.
Harry
Well, not anymore.
Roan
It's crazy. Yeah, more Francis. You, like, shower him with gifts and then he brings in gifts also for him.
Sass
He brings in gifts from my friend.
Roan
Yeah, that.
Sass
I've been like, I've literally. Harry said to you, like, hey, here's this guy. I want to connect you.
Harry
And I told you we've been talking.
Sass
Shut the up.
Harry
I did.
Sass
That's insane.
Harry
I said, I was like, we've already been. We've already. I literally said I think multiple times.
Sass
You know why you were talking? No, because I said to him, I've got a guy for you to meet.
Harry
I don't know about that.
Sass
I know about it.
Harry
I think Tushe was already familiar.
Sass
No, he wasn't. He didn't know.
Roan
How would he be?
Harry
He knew the face.
Sass
He's. Oh, you think he was from the meme. Oh, are you talking about that guy who sucks at video games? Is that who you mean?
Roan
No, he's talking about the still photo from the draft video.
Sass
Oh, that's who he's talking about.
Roan
Like, yeah, people know the face.
Sass
Actually, I kind of want to. I want to really prove this. This matters to me now, what I'm going to see at what point I Said touch that. He should look up you.
Harry
Oh, I don't. We don't need to.
Sass
I believe you.
Roan
Yeah. It's very clear.
Sass
It's not good enough.
Harry
All right.
Sass
Are we good?
Roan
Yep.
Harry
Alrighty. Welcome back to the Son of a Boy dad podcast. Today it is December 16th and we are here live from HQ.
Roan
Trails last episode in HQ trays of 2025 for all three of us.
Harry
Is it now?
Roan
Yeah.
Sass
Really?
Harry
That's news. That's news.
Sass
Ready for this, Frank?
Roan
For this?
Harry
I. I suppose I am ready for it.
Sass
This is October 28th. He goes, I might still be in Dallas on the date that we planned for for he and I to play golf.
Harry
Yes.
Sass
We're good friends. Yes. This is Deltouche. We're doing a lock in where we all sleep in the same room and game 247 until we get to 10th prestige in the new COD. COD?
Roan
Call of Duty.
Sass
He wrote it in undercase. That's why I said. I said cod. I mean, I did the opposite of what you'd think you'd do. There starts the 13th and undetermined how long it'll take. I go, LOL. That's incredible. You should invite Harry. Yeah. Do you know that I advocate for you?
Harry
I don't know what you want me to say.
Sass
That I'm always pushing you and.
Harry
Yeah, I talk to you. We talked about it.
Sass
And that I'm always saying, hey, this guy. This guy.
Roan
What are you saying? Who's Harry?
Sass
I'm. I do. What in Rome does this too, by the way. He's probably the best at it.
Harry
That's great.
Sass
Gassing up friends.
Harry
Yes. Yes.
Sass
He goes, is that sass?
Harry
Of course. Sounds like he knew. Immediately.
Sass
I go, yes. The fact that he doesn't know that your name is Harry, that blew up in your face. What do you mean?
Harry
He knew who I was Immediately.
Sass
He's asking for clarification. Anyone who knows you would know that when I say Harry.
Harry
No. 90% of the people that know me don't know my name.
Sass
Harry. You're kidding.
Harry
Not even a little.
Sass
I'm talking to a video gamer about a video game thing and I say, you should bring Harry. And he has to clarify, is that sass?
Harry
Because he doesn't know my name.
Sass
Yes. This is my point, is that this is the first moment where he becomes aware of you.
Harry
Okay, that's fine.
Sass
And then later, you two connected on my overture, which was the whole genesis of this argument.
Roan
Acknowledge his overture.
Harry
I appreciate it.
Roan
Acknowledge the overture. Thank you.
Sass
I broke the right. I broke the ice. You were trying to be like, I've been with Touche. I've been. We send each other gifts.
Harry
Oh, I was not.
Sass
Yes, you did. You brought all this in to fucking mock me for.
Harry
No, I brought it in because I wanted to open it up.
Sass
It's a huge windfall. You had to do this in front of my face?
Harry
Yes.
Sass
Presents from my friend that I introduced you to who didn't even know you're real. Gnome to bro.
Harry
Touche. Does not fuck with you like that.
Sass
I hate to break it to you. Should we call him?
Harry
No, no, because don't call douche.
Roan
He's gonna prove that you know is that you don't know his gnome to plume.
Sass
You're not a gnome. You guys are not on a gnome to plume basis.
Roan
You really aren't.
Harry
We might not be, but gnome de.
Roan
Plume by any other name.
Harry
Shout out to touch though, for these. For these controllers. This is sick.
Roan
I brought in something.
Harry
Oh, Stogies. Really?
Sass
Oh, my God.
Roan
It's the last episode. It's our last episode in person of the year.
Harry
Stogies today.
Roan
It's the last episode in person of the year.
Harry
Oh, my.
Sass
I mean, it's the last episode in.
Roan
Person of the year.
Sass
God damn it.
Harry
Have you cleared this with people?
Roan
It's a holiday day.
Harry
The office is slammed.
Roan
So what? God forbid people fucking shoot.
Harry
Like, you know, shoot heroin or some shit.
Roan
I have that too.
Harry
Stogies.
Sass
There might be even more Del2 stuff.
Harry
I can't believe you're just diving right into the stogie like that.
Sass
Me neither. We're gonna need to do the whole thing. We're gonna need to do the.
Harry
Well, I'm not rounds. Biting the bullet on this.
Roan
I came it on Friday. No one was here in the whole office. There's one guy here.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
Named Tyler.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
I was like, what are you. What are you doing here on a Friday?
Sass
Well, now I'm gonna take off the clothes I was planning to wear all day because I have to.
Harry
What did Tyler say?
Roan
He said. He said he's new. He said that he's new here. And. And if people don't want us to smoke cigars, they have to. We. They have to tell us on Friday.
Harry
On Friday in advance, in perfect person.
Roan
All right. They have to show up on Friday to tell us.
Harry
What else you got in that bag?
Roan
Stuff for the white elephant that you're not participating in, even though you easily could.
Harry
Why?
Roan
What do you mean why?
Harry
How.
Roan
How what? It's a white elephant. There's a sign up sheet that was sent out to your email.
Harry
No, I saw it.
Roan
Yeah, exactly. What do you mean? How should I not smoke this if there's. If it's going to be a problem?
Harry
Oh, that's up to you. I mean, you're already in.
Roan
I know.
Sass
That's what I'm saying.
Harry
I mean, I'm always.
Sass
I do. I've made this reference before. I feel like Casey Affleck and goodwill hunting when. When Ben and Matt get out to beat up the guy and he's like, you're going. You're fucking going. I don't want to go. I don't want to have a cigar at 11am before a four and a half hour train ride to Boston.
Harry
I haven't even eaten anything today.
Roan
It's our last episode in person of the year. I feel like we had a good year.
Sass
I actually. I actually. Yeah.
Roan
Yeah.
Sass
I'm not far off from agreeing with Harry about I'd rather do heroin. Can we switch it up at least from what horrible thing we do to set ourselves back medically?
Roan
I think there's eggnog downstairs.
Sass
Oh, yeah. Well, that went so well the last time.
Harry
That was nasty.
Sass
Tyler, do you want to just maybe tell people.
Roan
I'll just. We can. We don't have to smoke. We don't have to smoke.
Sass
Let's just.
Harry
We get a. Hold them.
Sass
We'll hold them.
Roan
We'll just bite them for the. Look, we won't light them. That's okay. It's okay. It's okay. We won't smoke cigars. We won't smoke cigars because the people who can't be bothered to show up to their jobs will have a problem with it on the one day a week that they show up, even though tomorrow's a holiday party. And what are. What are they celebrating?
Sass
Owen's already got a cig in his mouth.
Harry
Like.
Sass
Wait, what? We're not.
Harry
What do you think? Oh, you already took it out.
Roan
No, I put it out. I put it out. I put it out. The. The viewers, right? The people that have been so invested in. In. I mean, son of a Boy dad podcast. No, no, Francis. Francis, no, no, no.
Harry
I don't want to talk to you boys. I don't call. I don't call these shots. It's a contract year for me. So.
Roan
I put mine out. I put mine out. Mine's out.
Sass
Now.
Harry
It's just Francis.
Roan
Yeah. Now they're going to walk in and it's just going to be Francis.
Harry
Yeah, it's gonna look a little weird, too. People are gonna Be like, why are you just smoking a cigar solo in here? Is that the fan? All right. Are we lighting them up?
Roan
No, no, no.
Harry
You don't want to.
Roan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Sass
I feel like that was pretty minimal resistance overall. I don't know that we. I'm surprised that's all it took to thwart your.
Roan
Well, now I'm. Yeah, now.
Harry
Well, that first hit didn't go down too.
Roan
No. I love how it tastes.
Harry
You're laying down now.
Roan
No.
Harry
You broke out in a sweat.
Roan
Nothing makes me happier than a cigar. I don't want to upset the company.
Harry
Yeah. I mean, I think the damage is done, to be honest. It reeks.
Sass
That's not true. You don't think the damage can continue? You think we can increase the damage?
Roan
The damage will be. I mean, yeah, if we had smoked it in here, it would stink in here for a week.
Harry
But we won't be here, though.
Roan
Exactly.
Sass
This is not a. I don't think this is a once the seal's broken type thing. I think that the more you can put it, it can really.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
Emanate out there.
Roan
There's a pool table right over here. Yeah, there's a pool table right there.
Sass
Should we smoke that? Is that the suggestion here?
Harry
What are you thinking with the pool table?
Roan
And then there's a brick of 20 desks that are dead empty.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
Are they empty?
Harry
They are.
Roan
Look.
Sass
Go look. Actually, there's no.
Harry
There's no.
Roan
No sits there at that by the pool table. That whole swath is dead empty.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There's other. There's other people here. There's meeting rooms left and right here.
Harry
Yeah, but this is just, you know, this is how it. This is how it should be.
Roan
What you should smoke.
Harry
You should be able to smoke a cigar inside, you know?
Sass
Did you get a haircut?
Harry
I did, yeah.
Sass
Did you really?
Harry
Why are you wearing head in Dallas? I got a haircut.
Sass
Oh, nice.
Harry
Woke up at like 9am and I was like, I got to get rid of this now.
Sass
Wow.
Roan
Why?
Harry
Went to Great Clips. Great folks over there.
Roan
What was the inspiration?
Sass
Why are you wearing your sunglasses so high on your head?
Harry
I didn't even know I had those on still, to be honest.
Sass
Here they come.
Harry
Throw them on Rogan.
Roan
Yeah. So it doesn't. Auto focus.
Sass
Amazing. I can't believe how well that worked. He's here. He's actually here.
Harry
It's like he's. He's with us. This is Phenomenal.
Roan
Stogan.
Harry
Rogan smoked stogies on his show.
Roan
Exactly.
Harry
His people aren't complaining.
Sass
I'm fairly sure that if we were making $100 billion a year for Barstool Live event, Lisa would not come in here and be like, come on, guys.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
Turn on a fan.
Harry
Yeah, probably.
Roan
Well, that. That's. That's always been the truth of it, is that we need the booking people. The booking people don't need us.
Harry
True, true. Is that true, though?
Sass
Do we need.
Roan
Yeah, oh, good point.
Sass
Do we need.
Roan
Oh, good point.
Sass
Wow. Yeah, actually.
Roan
Good point. Yeah, actually, they do need us.
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
Rowan, seems like you're coming for blood today. I got a lot of problems with the inner workings of the company.
Roan
I am coming for blood.
Harry
Get him off your chest.
Roan
I am airing of the grievances.
Harry
Yeah. Aired out.
Sass
Ron woke up and decided he wished he'd had girls. Out of nowhere. Could have been one of each, at least.
Roan
No, never that. I was just telling Harry that I tried to go to Diker Heights last night for the Diker lights.
Harry
And.
Roan
And I was terrified that I was going to get there late because all I see online is I read about people having to walk a mile just to get to them and it being freezing and that there's no parking, and that's a huge headache. So I was like, like, frantically scurrying to get over there. We got in. It was the wrong address that we went to, and I took the first parking spot I saw because I was like, we have to, like, take a parking spot while we have one, while we see one. And as we walk towards where all, like, the lights are, I passed maybe 10,000 parking spots that were open. Everybody had a parking spot open. It infuriate.
Harry
Did part of you think about going back, get in the car, like, just throwing on, like, be like, tell the wife and kids, let's stay here. I'll throw on the jets. Get the car.
Roan
I thought about it, but it was so slick that I was positive that I'd be. I couldn't, like, run for sure. Eating it would have been devastating.
Harry
And did you have those boots on, though? Yeah, but, I mean, those got some good traction to them.
Roan
You think so?
Harry
Dude, I'll get some spikes in them.
Sass
I have. I. You know that. Roan, you'll know this. The. The sort of task of unloading the car after a long road trip or loading the car, taking the heavy bags in from where the car is always falls to the husband. Right?
Roan
Of course. Of course.
Sass
So I have friends. I have a Friend specifically, who's a pretty meager guy. He's pretty. He's pretty sort of small.
Roan
Now Sass is coming for blood. Now Sass wants the blood.
Sass
No, not my friend. David Portnoy. He's strong. Yeah, like bull.
Harry
I wasn't even referenced. I was referencing the phone call about the cigars.
Sass
Oh, I see. I see.
Roan
No, you were calling Dave Meager.
Harry
No, I was not calling Dave meager and small. I want that on the record.
Roan
Read the.
Harry
Read the transcript. In a contract year. No, bigger and small.
Roan
Dave Portnoy.
Sass
No, but I have a buddy and he's married to a woman who has. When they would travel. She'll. She's bringing serious luggage.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
And I honestly don't understand how he survives it. I don't know how he is equipped physically to be the husband in that situation. Mm.
Roan
Yeah, it's not. You have to train for it.
Sass
It's hard. I mean, I think he probably shares the duty. I think she's just as much the mule as he is.
Harry
Is with the luggage.
Sass
Yeah, man. Have.
Harry
Maybe they have someone come in, like, you know, with like. Like where, Like a hotel or. What are we talking here?
Sass
Airport. You pull your car up after you're away for just getting in the house. Getting into the house. You have to unload the car.
Harry
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, how small is this man?
Sass
Small.
Harry
He can't handle, like, just a regular suitcase, probably.
Sass
He's probably 5:10, 1:40.
Harry
And he's got it.
Roan
No, but I mean, got faith in him.
Sass
Dude, that's a hot girl. Those are like hot girl dimensions.
Roan
Yeah, that's like an athletic. That's like an equestrian.
Sass
Yeah, yeah, but for a guy, those are unconscionable dimensions. Not the best. I mean, no offense to the. Our 5:10 to your boy, 140 listeners out there. He doesn't listen. He's successful.
Harry
He's gonna hear it. I mean, you're talking. They're talking a lot of. On him, though. You're saying his wife has to bring in the luggage.
Roan
He called her a mule. I mean, but I totally get it. I mean, the. The limit.
Sass
Sorry, go ahead, Ron.
Roan
No, the limit on. On. On suitcases at the airport is £50, and they're regularly putting 60 in there.
Sass
Oh, yeah.
Harry
Oh, yeah.
Roan
So he's. As a 140 guy. Has to be at least a deadlift or a squat. Of.
Sass
Of.
Roan
Of the. One of the.
Harry
Yeah, but if you're 140, you can roll 60 pounds.
Sass
That's not. That's not the issue, it's the. All the loose stuff that doesn't roll.
Harry
Especially if you have, what, the dumbbells in the back of the car.
Sass
You got a baby and. And the wife is pro baby. Right. So then. Then it's. Then he's stuck with bags. Loose bags. Yeah, Shoulder bags. Four shoulder bags. You end up looking like a Christmas tree.
Harry
Yeah. But you, you know, like stuff draped over every.
Sass
And then you have to go park the car. So you can't really be away that long.
Harry
Oh, I guess you're talking in the city. Yeah, that makes sense. I just know when I. When everyone. Whenever I'm bringing in. I'm taking everything in one trip.
Roan
No matter what.
Harry
No matter what.
Sass
Same.
Harry
I used to love doing that. My mom would call me down and be like, you gotta get to bring the groceries inside.
Sass
You feel like hero.
Harry
45 bags at once, dragging them through.
Sass
You feel like a God.
Roan
Yeah.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
Shoulders just rip off your body.
Harry
Yeah. And you know, like. I know. I knew, like, my mom was pissed because she was hoping that was going to take me longer to do. Why a chore?
Sass
What's she doing? Well, she was waiting for.
Harry
Because it's just a chore, you know?
Roan
Well, she wants to get him off the sticks for just a second.
Sass
Oh, yeah.
Roan
That's like a sliver of daylight for him. Would probably, like, change his biology.
Harry
No, I didn't play as much video games when I was. When I was growing up.
Roan
You were sewing.
Harry
I was sewing. I was too busy in the knitting and sewing. You were in the knitting circle, flying.
Sass
For your Twitter career?
Harry
Flying, yes. Traveling quite often to tweet.
Roan
You can't tweet it locally, statically, especially when there's the geotag on it. Now you need to have a little bit of variance in your. Yeah.
Harry
What is with that new geotag?
Roan
I don't know.
Harry
I don't with that at all.
Roan
Why?
Harry
Like, they're like asking me if I want to, like, tag, like, the neighborhood that I'm in, like, where I live.
Roan
Everybody knows where you live, dude.
Sass
No, Harry, sometimes without realizing it, I sit the exact same way that you do.
Harry
Well, it's a pretty common position.
Sass
No, it's not that common.
Harry
I don't think it's decently common.
Sass
Clasping hands around left knee over right knee.
Roan
It's a mirroring thing. It's like psychological.
Sass
It must be sits if you.
Roan
If you mirror how somebody sits.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
That is like a deference.
Sass
It's like a yawn when someone else yawns.
Roan
It's a Deep contagious.
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
Crossing the legs is a little contagious.
Sass
You're a taste maker here.
Roan
Yeah.
Sass
You're a taste maker. I know. You're a trendsetter.
Roan
I know. Sometimes I'll catch myself crossing and then I'll conspicuously uncross because I want to make sure that I'm projecting masculine energy and, like, a widespread confidence. I even not. I don't even fold my hands over my lap.
Harry
No. No need. Just really want people to know I'm here.
Roan
Really.
Harry
I'm not going anywhere.
Sass
Do you want to show us what you got there? Your presents.
Harry
Oh, yeah. I mean, this is Daltush. Hooked it up with some scuffs.
Sass
This is like when a dog brings you its toys. All the toys from its basket.
Harry
I've been. Wait.
Roan
Well, this is like when.
Harry
Look.
Sass
Look at all the things I have.
Roan
This is like when a cat brings you.
Harry
Like, he sent it to the office. I didn't. I didn't bring it. Wasn't like he sent it to my house and I brought it in.
Sass
Like, you're not giving me that. You just want me to know you have it.
Harry
I got sent me two, but, I mean, you guys don't really have any use for them.
Sass
Is that a good stick there?
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
Really?
Roan
Paddles. Wow.
Harry
Mouse click. Mouse click. Triggers.
Sass
How much is that?
Harry
I'm not sure.
Sass
I'm going to have that one. That one's mine.
Roan
No, it doesn't have any decent impact shock.
Sass
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Roan
Oh, wow.
Harry
It really does actually do break very eas. So go easy on it. Give it to me.
Sass
Dropping it.
Harry
Why are you dropping it on the ground?
Roan
To see what kind of shocks it has.
Harry
Snap that cigar in half right in front of your face.
Roan
Not my 13 cigar.
Sass
It really is. Mouse clicks on every button.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
Is that something people like?
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
You want that? That costs more.
Harry
The fastest reaction time.
Sass
Fastest reaction.
Roan
Fastest reaction or, you know, you're doing it. You don't have to double click.
Harry
Yeah, exactly.
Sass
Paddles.
Harry
Yeah, paddles are on the back.
Roan
Give that a drop. It's actually.
Harry
Don't drop it.
Roan
It's actually a really don't drop, I think.
Harry
Yeah, you can drop it on there. I don't care. Oh, Jesus Christ.
Sass
Didn't see that coming.
Harry
All right, pick it up. Give it back to me.
Roan
You could just get it. Just have him joke you another one.
Harry
No jokes are over. Let's go. Hand it back. This is crazy to treat. And you said this was your friend.
Sass
All I said was that I was friends with him first. And I set up your friendship.
Harry
Give it back.
Sass
You don't have three of these that I could juggle, do you?
Harry
No.
Roan
You must juggle it with the pheasant and a stogie roan.
Sass
They say, and a lot of people don't know this, that if you don't have a hacky sack.
Harry
All right, stop.
Sass
Controller is the next best thing.
Roan
Yeah, it really is. Kids on the quality at state schools are just kicking around controllers back and forth.
Harry
This is. I mean, that was just. I've never seen anything like that.
Roan
Did any. Did any harm come.
Harry
This show might be coming to an end.
Roan
Did any harm come to it?
Harry
That just crossed all the lines.
Roan
Nothing happened to it.
Harry
We'll see when I plug it in.
Roan
What do you mean?
Harry
It's probably broken already.
Roan
How would it be broken?
Harry
Because you guys were smashing it around and throwing it and dropping it on the ground.
Roan
Isn't that what people do with their controllers when they're frustrated?
Sass
No.
Harry
Maybe when you're six years old.
Roan
Dude.
Sass
You know. You know when you test a car, right? A new car, you have to run it through a crash test. We're preparing for the worst case scenario. Yeah. Because you're not always just gonna be sweetly tapping away.
Harry
You really are, though.
Sass
No. Yeah, not you. Not the way I know you.
Roan
What if you play on a plane and there's turbulence?
Harry
What's going to happen? What would the turbulence do?
Roan
Shakes it out of your hand, smacks into a ceiling, Fucking knocks out a flight attendant.
Harry
The turbulence runs over that. I have much bigger worries than the state of my controller.
Roan
Exactly. And you don't want to have that be the thing that you're fucking stressing out. You should worry about your life. Yeah.
Sass
Can you just show us. You don't have to give it to us, but show us what else you got.
Harry
It's just another one. It's another one.
Sass
Same color scheme, different design.
Harry
You know, this one's a little bit different. I think this one is. It might say optic on it. Yeah.
Roan
Oh, that's so sick.
Sass
Oh, that's dope, dude.
Harry
Yeah, this one's sick. I mean, they're both sick. Come here.
Sass
Here.
Harry
Come in. A million years. Not happening.
Sass
That's your favorite one.
Roan
Come, come, come, come.
Harry
I like them both.
Roan
What about that third one over there?
Harry
No, that's a case.
Roan
Oh, got it.
Harry
Was the case for.
Roan
And what about those two? Those are the boxes.
Harry
Those are the boxes.
Roan
And what was in that big box?
Harry
That was all of this.
Roan
Okay, got it.
Sass
It was just two controls in a Box. Yeah.
Roan
And a bog down in the valley oh, hey ho.
Sass
The box in the box Box in.
Harry
The valley it would have been. I, I, I, I didn't know he was going to send me two, you know. What a surprise.
Roan
Well, probably one is, one's probably for.
Harry
Francis, but Francis doesn't have a console.
Sass
Well, there's a reason they call him Dall too.
Harry
That's good. That's funny.
Roan
God, that's funny. You stepped on the cigar, yo. You're a scumbag.
Harry
Oh no.
Roan
You're a scumbag. What the hell all this about me?
Harry
How did that.
Roan
My shoes. Who put this dog here? That's so disrespectful.
Harry
I do like how a cigar, you can kind of just peel it back and then you just get the raw.
Sass
Yeah, and then you ruin it.
Harry
No, you still smoke this?
Sass
I mean it starts to. It feels like you're smoking bundles.
Harry
Catching up fast.
Roan
Have you guys ever been into that cigar store across the street?
Harry
Yeah. Yeah.
Roan
It feels like you're in like 1940s Cuba in there.
Sass
They're not selling the best stuff in there. I don't.
Roan
But the guys are. There's like four guys who are working hand, hand rolling like they're factory workers.
Harry
I think they're selling the best of the best.
Roan
They're like hand rolling it right in front and that. But it's good enough for them because today I watched two guys, one of them had like a short that he was smoking and the other one rolled it up and fucking. I watched him light it up right in front of us. The same stuff they're selling. So it's good enough for them to smoke. Cuban brothers.
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
What, what, what do you think? Like the, what's the priciest cigar that, that they could buy?
Roan
That you could buy over there?
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
Or period.
Harry
Period. I guess.
Roan
I mean there's definitely four figure cigars out there.
Sass
Oh, more probably. But it's like wine. Yeah.
Harry
I think that's just crazy to me.
Sass
You get like aged cigars that were limited run. You probably buy cigars that were of the private collection of Fidel Castro.
Harry
Yeah, yeah.
Sass
Confiscated, you know, in some coup or something like that.
Harry
1.4 million. Honestly.
Roan
Go r. You just have a house or like 20 minutes of pleasure.
Harry
Yeah, I mean that's steep.
Roan
One hour pleasure.
Harry
That's out of my budget personally.
Sass
Some years ago there was a, a collection of wine that had been in casks or something like that. Maybe even glass, big glass bottles that had gone down with a shipwreck to the bottom of the ocean.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
And were recovered many, many years later, maybe even decades or hundreds of years later by divers. And then those went to auction and they'd been part of some, you know, King's collection coming over from Spain or something like.
Harry
That's pretty sick.
Sass
And I think they were the highest sold and they were preserved because the temperature of the ocean had.
Harry
I'm sorry, I said they were probably pretty wet.
Sass
No, I think they were kept airtight.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
You're ready to be a dad.
Sass
But there. But there was no way. This is the thing, though, right? You couldn't confirm that the wine hadn't spoiled before you bought it.
Harry
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sass
And so the question then becomes, are you going to drink this or are you just going to tell people the story of the algae covered bottle that you've got in your aquarium?
Harry
Yeah, right.
Roan
Never drink that.
Sass
No, I don't think so.
Roan
That sounds like absolute trash. Like there's no way that's going to be an enjoyable wine drinking experience.
Sass
Oh, and is there any chance that you could look up sort of the real strokes of that story?
Harry
I mean, that sounded like more like a tale.
Sass
No, that's a true thing.
Roan
That's fresh out of Canterbury.
Sass
Huh? The wine shipwreck story that sold for how much? Expensive.
Roan
Expensive wine shipwreck stories.
Harry
Those are going to be your keywords.
Sass
Keywords there.
Harry
Wine expensive story.
Sass
168Bottles found at the bottom of the Baltic Sea with champagne, not wine.
Harry
Interesting.
Sass
Flat. It's happened a couple times.
Roan
At which point they. They might be sinking these cruise ships on purpose.
Harry
Yeah. Just to up the value of the champagne.
Sass
Yeah. Yeah.
Roan
Cruise ships do go down more than you think.
Harry
I know.
Roan
Holy.
Sass
Do you guys think. Yeah.
Harry
Never think about how much this wine could be worth if we sunk to.
Roan
The bottom, if there was a tail. It's like art. It's like an art thief.
Harry
Exactly.
Sass
It is the deep cold that preserves it. Wow.
Harry
That is interesting.
Sass
Okay.
Harry
I like that.
Sass
At least one of my strokes was right.
Harry
Yeah, you nailed it. You nailed the deep cold.
Sass
Feel pretty good about that.
Roan
Old champagne sounds like ass, too, though. I don't know. Unless it's. Unless it's the best of the best champagne. Francis. I'm not enjoying it.
Sass
I'm not. I'm not a champagne guy.
Harry
What if it's coming from the bottom of the sea? It's been preserved by the cold sea.
Roan
I don't know that the deep cold.
Harry
There's a company that sub. Oh, my God.
Roan
There's a company that submerges. Wine on purpose. And shipwrecks.
Sass
Yeah. They're called China. And they use torpedoes.
Harry
That's crazy.
Sass
In the China Sea.
Harry
So it's all a facade. It's all a scam.
Sass
I'm sorry.
Harry
Lake Erie. That's crazy.
Roan
I heard somebody disparaging Lake Erie yesterday, saying it was the fake lake that is like the. The outlier of the. Of the Great Lakes that really like, doesn't have any of the characteristics of the rest of the Great Lakes. It's not nearly as deep. It's not like it's like the outlier. There's like a line of. All the lakes in Canada are on one line because of like, of the glaciers. And for whatever reason, Lake Erie is like the black sheep.
Sass
Do you guys have a favorite of the Great Lakes? We were talking about the Great Lakes yesterday.
Roan
Michigan.
Harry
Yeah, Michigan probably.
Sass
I'm gonna go Ontario.
Roan
Really?
Harry
I don't know if I've ever seen that one.
Sass
But we had a camp, a small camp up on. On Lake Ontario when I was a kid. We still do, but we don't go.
Roan
A camp? What do you mean? That's like what Bernie Sanders said.
Sass
We had.
Roan
I keep a small summer camp.
Sass
We had no electricity.
Harry
Oh, I see.
Sass
And like there was an outhouse.
Harry
I thought you meant it was like a camp.
Roan
Like concentration.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
Internment, right? No, for the Japanese. Where you kept Japanese. Just until the war was over. Just to make sure they weren't up to anything.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
That's sick. What, what, what's the characteristics of that lake?
Sass
Deep in line with the other lakes up in Canada. I think those are the main things I would say about it.
Roan
Huge.
Sass
Humongous.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
Absolutely enormous. It was great. It was on this. Near this town called Deborah, which was spelled D, E S B E R A T S Des Berat. But you don't pronounce much of it. And then our camp was called Windmill because we had an old abandoned windmill on the. On the island. It was great.
Harry
Revamped it.
Sass
I used to go when I was a kid. It was amazing.
Roan
You guys still own the land? Yeah.
Harry
That's cool.
Sass
I mean, it's worth $20,000.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
It's on land on the lake. I bet it's worth more than that.
Sass
I don't think so. Man, you gotta look into flipping that fucking remote or no.
Roan
Let's get up there and build on it.
Harry
Hell yeah, that's built. Start building some more windmills.
Sass
You had to take a flight to Toronto and then you took a puddle jumper to Sault Ste. Marie and then you drove an hour.
Harry
Wow.
Sass
The Holder's marina, which was going out of business, so we had to like bail, help them stay afloat because there was literally no other way to get to your home if the marina went out.
Harry
Yeah, that's tough.
Sass
And they're not doing well to marinas. Yeah, I mean, it was like the place in my childhood when we would drive from Maine. It was 22 hours.
Harry
Jesus.
Roan
Yeah, I feel like it's right there. 22 hours?
Sass
Yeah, I mean it's way. It's west of Toronto. So Maine to Toronto is like 16. It is, yeah.
Harry
Maine to Toronto.
Sass
Yeah, I think so.
Harry
I thought that would be like five.
Sass
You're thinking Maine to Quebec. Maine to Montreal is not that bad. But Maine is a pretty big state.
Roan
Toronto feels like it's right there.
Sass
But east coast of Maine to Toronto.
Roan
Good.
Sass
Was a long way. And then it might have been 12 to Toronto, 10, but then it was another 10 from there to. To the. The Sioux. You want to know how Sioux Saint Marie is spelled?
Roan
Tell us.
Sass
S A, U, L, T is sue. That's how they pronounce.
Harry
Oh, really?
Roan
This is absolutely beautiful up here.
Harry
Let me see.
Sass
Well, yeah, but the lake is nicer. The lake is great.
Roan
I mean, we should be summering in Deborah.
Sass
We can go up there.
Harry
I gotta get out there.
Sass
A lot of lake bass. A lot of lake bass.
Harry
We could be there by tomorrow.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
You think if we chartered a plane for. From Teterboro we could get right there? Gotta be able to, right?
Sass
We could. Yeah, we could get to the Sioux direct.
Roan
How much do you think that that would cost us? 30 grand.
Sass
We're traveling across the Canadian border, 22 hour drive. I don't know. Probably a little more. Probably a little north that maybe. Maybe 50. What about.
Harry
What about Aubrey? You think he could let us. He could hook us up.
Roan
Bro does owe me a favor.
Sass
Ron, is there a world where we could ever tour his plane?
Roan
Tour Drake's plane?
Sass
Yeah, of course.
Roan
Of course. We could probably do it this calendar year.
Sass
I don't need to go up in the air. I just want to walk around it.
Harry
Sure, I'd rather. I want to tour the house.
Sass
I want the plane.
Roan
No, let's do that too.
Harry
You think these are possibilities?
Sass
He parks the plane in the driveway so we can kill two birds with one stone.
Harry
Does he have his own? Like his own, you know?
Roan
Of course a couple probably has one here, one there, one Turks, one la, one Toronto.
Harry
Are you allowed to have your own landing? Like your own landing strip or do you need, like, your own air for traffic control and all that too.
Roan
No, you can. I saw a video this weekend of somebody who went to a restaurant in Alaska and then just, like, flew their plane on, like, took off from the highway.
Sass
I swear to God, I think I saw that video.
Harry
That's insane. Yeah, but is that just like an Alaska thing? Was it like a Cessna? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Roan
But like, John Travolta has his own Runway in his backyard. Really?
Sass
But that's in, like, Wyoming. You got to be real remote.
Harry
Yeah, like, what if you. What if you had a place like in. In. In Montauk? No, you can't just land a plane.
Sass
The bear space is too busy.
Harry
Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
Sass
You're talking about competing with LaGuardia and JFK.
Harry
Yeah, but I would just be like, hey, guys, I'm keeping it low. Don't worry about me.
Roan
I was watching a time lapse of Hartsfield down in Atlanta.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
Busiest airport in the United States. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Flights are landing.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
Unbelievable. Mm.
Harry
It's busy as hell out there. What do they call it, the String City?
Roan
They do not. No.
Harry
There's some weird name for it because of all the highways and stuff.
Roan
The. Did you see about that, that mayday on the United flight?
Harry
No, I didn't.
Roan
They had to immediately turn around. I think they were leaving from, like, D.C. or something.
Harry
Why?
Sass
Some guy dropped a controller and it bounced all the way, knocked the pilot out unconscious, got stuck under his foot pedal, and plane just immediately went into a nose dive.
Roan
Thank God they landed it.
Harry
Why? Why did they have to Mayday. And I'm not. I mean, I'm glad to hear that they made it safe. I mean, that's remarkable effort from the United pilots.
Roan
Yeah. I didn't even really look into it. I just watched the flight pattern go up and loop. Did he loop?
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
It was harrowing because they know the.
Harry
Delta pilots probably would have been like, let's just go for it. It's.
Roan
That would have. Bombs would have never. I mean, well, that's. Obviously, it's a technical issue on the plane, so, like the pre flight maintenance that you. A guy like you would complain about. Oh, it take 15 extra minutes. I'm gonna join Frontier Airlines for the rest of my life. I was like, us like know that that's a necessary evil.
Sass
You know, there's a reason they call it loyalty in the airline industry. It means something to people like me and Ron.
Harry
Loyalty.
Roan
It's nice that there's even just a. A little bit of Cigar in the air.
Harry
I know.
Roan
I honestly don't mind that, like, light musk of cigar.
Sass
I think we had the right amount, the perfect amount.
Harry
It was definitely a good idea that I didn't take any from. Stomach is not in a good place.
Sass
Yeah, no. What's going on?
Roan
This.
Harry
Oh, nothing. I was just. I was late because I had to, you know, use the bathroom.
Roan
And then you said you were stuck on the toilet.
Harry
I was stuck.
Roan
Like a William Howard Craft situation.
Harry
It was a full. Like, usually you're not stuck. This was. There was no choice.
Roan
Yeah, I've been stuck before.
Harry
Yeah. There was. There was zero chance I was getting up.
Roan
It's nasty to get stuck. I'm not done. My body's telling me I'm not done.
Harry
And that was around 1.
Roan
There's more work to do.
Harry
There's plenty of.
Roan
Until the job's done.
Harry
Yeah. One hit of that cigar, I would have been going straight to the bathroom.
Sass
Of course.
Roan
If you're inhaling.
Harry
When this comes out, will the steak thing have been out yet?
Roan
No, this is coming out on Thursday.
Harry
And stay comes out next Thursday.
Roan
It's coming out next week.
Harry
Okay.
Roan
Next Thursday. Is next Thursday Christmas.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
We're not gonna put that out on Christmas.
Sass
I'm gonna be in a lodge in Fjordland. Fjordland near Teano with.
Roan
That sounded like five different languages. Teano sounds Spanish.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
Fjordland sounds Icelandic. And you're gonna be in New Zealand.
Sass
Yeah. And I'll be, you know, eating alone on Christmas day. And they. I said, can I get a fly fishing guide for the day? And they said, our guides. We give our guides the day of Christmas off.
Roan
Did you make a stink? I would have made a stink.
Sass
And I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. They do have families that they'll be.
Harry
There's got to be one. There's got to be. There's got to be a couple. There's got to be a group of dudes in New Zealand who aren't doing shit on Christmas looking to go.
Sass
If there's a guide in the Fjordland region of New Zealand, two hours south of Queenstown, who wants to take me fishing around there? I would love to do that.
Roan
What about just companionship? Like, what if someone will welcome you for, like, a Christmas roast or something?
Sass
I'm gonna need someone to bring me into their family because I'm going to in tears, in homesickness and loneliness.
Roan
Take a picture of yourself when you cry.
Sass
I'm gonna call my family at, like, in a tent. 11pm on Christmas Day. And they will just be getting up to unwrap presents.
Roan
Brutal.
Sass
Think about that.
Harry
On the bright side, you're gonna sleep through most of it, you know?
Sass
What do you mean?
Harry
Once they get their festivities going, you'll be asleep.
Roan
Yeah, but he's gonna experience Christmas almost a day before us.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
So like it's going to be Christmas Eve for all of us and he's just going to have this lonely Christmas hanging over him like this. Sword of Damocles.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
Just so fucking.
Harry
I mean, you're going to be in New Zealand. It's going to be pretty sick, you know.
Roan
But it's going to be Christmas and it's like still Christmas, no matter.
Sass
That's the one day that's going to be hard. I'm not worried about New Year's Eve or New Year's Day.
Roan
If there's any cunts down in New Zealand that would take in Francis.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
If there's any suit dick comes down there that would take in. When I was on the roan.com stream last week, someone ran up and he's like, oh, I mean, I'm on holiday from Australia. I've been looking for you all over. I've been looking for Francis and Sass the entire time he's been looking for you guys. So there is. There are cunts down there that are like on board with what we're doing.
Harry
Aussies.
Sass
There are a few Aussies.
Roan
Kiwis.
Sass
Like I'm playing Jack's Point on. I think it's December 27th and I have the tee time all to myself. If anyone was a comedy club to join me for a round of golf, I would prefer if you were a single digit handicap. I don't want to fuck around with hackers anymore. I'm too old for that.
Harry
Hackers, like they like dudes who are really good, bad or bad. Yeah, yeah. Makes sense.
Sass
I'm only kidding. I'll play with anyone. But yeah, that's December 27th. I think I have like a 10:30am T time at Jack's Point Point, which.
Roan
Will be about 10pm the day before here.
Harry
Yeah, I think you're gonna. I think you're gonna end up linking up with some bros and, you know, just having a traditional Aussie Christmas or not Aussie, I guess. New Zealand, Kiwi Christmas.
Sass
Kiwi Christmas has a nicer ring to it.
Roan
Yeah. And what's the weather gonna be like again? Did you, did you check the weather?
Sass
It's perfect. I think it's gonna be 70 every day.
Harry
Oh wow. It's Pretty ideal. Yeah, that's pretty ideal.
Roan
There's. I remember a textbook when I was in like fourth grade and there was a picture of some Aussies celebrating Christmas with a Christmas tree on the beach. And it just always just. It was just like a fantasy of mine to be able to experience that. And you're going to be living that.
Sass
Are you sure you're not thinking of a Corona ad?
Roan
Maybe I'm thinking of the Corona ad that plays every year. That is a great ad. They don't need to. Yeah, they don't need to do anything to change that.
Sass
So good.
Roan
That's great. That and the lottery. The lottery ad.
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Roan
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Harry
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Sass
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Sass
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Roan
Fuck yeah. I've had it up for a fucking month.
Harry
Do you got you? Do you have like an actual tree?
Sass
Dude, no joke. When you. I occasionally I'll take an Uber home across the Manhattan Bridge. Yeah, I can see his apartment.
Harry
Oh, I'm not surprised.
Sass
And I can see the Christmas tree.
Harry
Of course.
Sass
And it just reminds me that he has his life going. Well.
Harry
Yeah, yeah.
Sass
And I'm going to a sterile, white. No, humorless.
Roan
You have an Eames chair. I don't want to hear it. You have an ergonomically perfect upstate.
Sass
My apartment in New York is just a fucking padded room.
Harry
You got the, the 40 foot. You got the one that they got at downtown.
Sass
Rockefeller. Yeah.
Harry
Rockefeller tree in your apartment.
Roan
Yeah. I had to talk to my upstairs neighbor to see through, to just pop up. Yeah.
Harry
How did you guys like decorate it and stuff?
Roan
It's been decorated.
Harry
What do you do? White lights or colorful lights? Definitely white lights.
Roan
White lights. Yeah. Colorful lights is awesome.
Harry
You're just afraid to admit it.
Roan
I don't know.
Sass
I'm, I'm with Harry on this one. I, I.
Harry
White lights. It's a girl move. I hate to be that guy.
Roan
Well, who do you think?
Harry
I know, I know, but I know, I know. You probably didn't you weren't in control there. I'm just saying, if it's up to me, it's. We're going all the colors.
Sass
What about blinking lights?
Harry
Everything.
Sass
Oh, you.
Harry
I want all the gadgets.
Sass
You want to be that guy?
Roan
You're gonna go to Dike of Lights. Dike of Lights would have been incredible. I think the colorful lights. I don't know. My grandma used to do it, but it.
Harry
You don't like them?
Roan
It's kind of poor.
Sass
I like. I like them.
Harry
What? That's crazy.
Roan
It's kind of classless.
Harry
I love the colorful lights.
Sass
It's kind of like, unfortunately, we can only afford color in this house.
Roan
It's kind of like. Like you're gonna. You're gonna have a blowout fight with your, like, grandfather on Christmas if you have colorful lights.
Harry
Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, the white lights just like you're at Macy's.
Roan
No, the white lights are clean and classy.
Harry
My eyes hurt. Can we turn them off?
Roan
The colorful lights is like, you're, like, hiding, like, the mouse droppings. Like, oh, we don't want it too bright in here. We don't want to see everything that's going on. Just like, have a weird police station vibe to them.
Harry
I love them. I. The.
Sass
The.
Harry
They remind me of like. Like old, like, Christmas movies and stuff.
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
The. The white ones. It's. That's Tesla. You got the. You got the open AI lights.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
Are clean.
Harry
You got the Sam Altman lights. And now you can control them from your phone.
Sass
It.
Roan
Just think about it. Just draw your hand down your temple and they dim the diker light. Slice. Are insane.
Harry
Yeah. What do they look like?
Roan
I mean, the people. The. Like, every house has, like, tightly wrapped it. Like, it must take, like, days just to wrap the. Some of the trees that they have outside. It's.
Harry
What do you.
Roan
Like, look at this. Look at this.
Harry
That is crazy.
Roan
And this is. Every house in the neighborhood has this. It's like. It's pyrotechnic level light shows. No, it's in Brooklyn.
Sass
Oh. Because it looks like Staten Island.
Roan
It's the same. Same vibe.
Sass
Yeah. Same type of people.
Harry
That's insane.
Roan
Still got the Curtis Sliwa signs up.
Sass
Out there.
Roan
Still what time it is. Look at this shit.
Harry
That's sick.
Roan
They're saying you have to.
Harry
I might have to get out there.
Roan
You really should, dude. Yeah, look at that. Dude.
Harry
Get out to see the dyke lights.
Roan
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Harry
Isn't that what they're called?
Roan
They'll beat your ass if you even use that word around there.
Harry
What were the. What was the word that you were using?
Roan
Diker. Diker Heights.
Harry
Oh, I thought you were saying the Dyke Lights.
Roan
Why would I say that?
Sass
Diker Heights is the. The rim height in the WN. Says four inches lower than the NBA height.
Harry
Oh, man, that's funny.
Roan
They should.
Sass
Yeah, they should. More dunking.
Harry
You think that'll ever be a thing? That they'll let the girls dunk? Why wouldn't they?
Sass
They let the girls dunk.
Harry
Yeah, but I mean, they can't.
Sass
Some can, not all. And the ones that can. I'll say this. That's fucking impressive.
Harry
They lay it down.
Sass
Yeah. I mean, I want to see. It's one thing when. What's it with a girl from, like, who got detained in Russia, does it.
Roan
Where you're like, yeah, you have Marfan syndrome.
Sass
Yeah, what's going on? But then when there's, you know, the six. One girl from that played at Kentucky was doing it.
Harry
Six one girls dunking.
Sass
Yeah, man, that's what I'm saying. That's elite.
Harry
Yeah, I mean, that is elite. That's crazy. It's big hops.
Sass
I think again, I'm throwing that number. It was the girl that played at Kentucky who was like, really, really good.
Roan
I want to see the girl. Audi. Crook stunk. You know who I'm talking about? She plays at Iowa State.
Harry
I'm not a pervert.
Roan
She's a big girl.
Harry
Oh, really?
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
Yeah, I want to see her. Her.
Sass
She's like averaging 34 points a game right now.
Harry
Really?
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
That's sick.
Roan
She. You can't get around her.
Harry
What happened to Caitlin Clark?
Sass
Is.
Harry
She just.
Roan
She got her.
Harry
She got injured.
Roan
Yeah, she just.
Harry
Remember Paige came in? Yeah, Paige, she's running the show.
Roan
Caitlin Clark, I think, made $19 million in endorsements this year.
Harry
It's not bad.
Roan
And like $180,000 playing basketball.
Harry
Yeah, I know. It's.
Roan
If we're talking ups, I saw a harrowing stat this week that the long jump record on a pogo stick is shorter than the long junk jump record without a pogo.
Sass
No way. That's crazy.
Roan
That's like 20 long jumps. 29ft might be the long jump record.
Sass
It's insane.
Harry
People get up, get out there.
Sass
They get out there. Yeah.
Harry
It's not up. I don't want to say up because they're never really that high off the ground.
Sass
They're higher than you're more so just.
Harry
Traveling through the air.
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
Rapid fat.
Roan
They should be investigated. Honestly, like what? The fact that someone can do that is one of the greatest. No.
Harry
Oh, I. I tried it a couple times. I got like a foot. It was like one of those things where you. You're expecting to soar and then you do it and you're like, whoa. That was, like, really embarrassing. Well, you gotta think that's how far I can jump.
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
I was, like, taking a step forward.
Sass
It's. It's about how fast they run. Yeah, Right. They're flying, coming into that thing, and.
Roan
There'S got to be a lot of, like, muscle control in the air of just, like, what they're doing here. And then, like, when they're throwing their feet forward and, like, how they're landing.
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
It's all that technique.
Roan
Technique is crazy.
Sass
It is amazing to me that they are constantly shuffling in and shuffling out Olympic events, you know, to keep spicing things up and keep it fresh. And it's like. Like they'll never touch the long jump.
Roan
Yeah.
Sass
And you're like, really? Yeah.
Harry
I mean, that feels like a pretty easy one to just follow.
Sass
How about the hammer throw? Come on.
Roan
You wait. You want to get the long jump out of here?
Sass
Kinda.
Roan
Oh.
Harry
Long jump, I think, is one of.
Roan
The most phenomenal, like, feats of pure classical strength. Hammer throw. I could hammer throw, discus, javelin, like these are medieval fighting techniques.
Sass
Just bring all those people into one thing and then they can throw whatever they want.
Harry
Free throw, free throw.
Sass
Same weight for each, but, you know, throw whatever you want. You can throw a fridge. And the long jump, to me, though, yeah, it's, you know, long jump, high jump.
Roan
Pole vaults are staples for me.
Harry
Yeah, High jump is sick.
Roan
That's. Those go hand in hand with 100 meter, 200 meter, 400.
Sass
Well, the Swedish guy made the pole vault cool again.
Harry
Yeah. With this penis.
Sass
Super hot girlfriend.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
Yeah.
Sass
Is that his name, Mondo Duplantis or something?
Harry
I have no idea.
Roan
Are you guys talking about for sure the same person? I'm talking about the dude who I'm remembering a penis.
Sass
That's a different guy.
Roan
Yeah, that's a different fellow. Oh, but he made it cool, too.
Harry
Yeah, I thought he was definitely the one that made it cool.
Roan
They both made it cool in their own, like, kind of.
Harry
He jumped over and his dick knocked the bar down.
Sass
Well, yeah, his foreskin hooked on the top of the bar.
Harry
He was swinging and suctioned, and he.
Sass
Was up there like a. Like a bullied child given a wedgie.
Roan
The top of the light pole.
Harry
We didn't. We never had The. We didn't have pole vaults at our high school, but apparently there are high schools that do have it, which is shocking to me.
Sass
Yeah, we had that.
Harry
That feels like if I was superintendent, that's the first thing that's going. I don't need a kid fucking falling 80ft from the sky in gym class on his stick. Yeah, yeah.
Roan
Getting impaled on his stick.
Harry
He's sliding down the stick.
Sass
Did you ever. Did you ever go out to the track? Did you guys have. You must have had a nice track at your school. And field, right?
Harry
We just had a track around a field. Yeah.
Roan
Yeah.
Sass
Was it a turf?
Harry
I was. I threw jav.
Sass
You did?
Roan
Yeah.
Harry
Yes.
Sass
Cool.
Harry
Yeah. How do you not.
Roan
We've talked about this.
Sass
No, I remember you like one of my things.
Harry
It's his little varsity jav. It's just, you know, a 380 yards.
Sass
You say that and then I say you're a great athlete, and then you start walking it back.
Harry
No, I'm kidding. Because I. We did the last time we talked about this, I said I threw it 80 yards. Then we looked it up and it was like 40ft. I like, found the. I found it because it's all recorded.
Sass
There was a write up.
Harry
It's like 40ft. And I was.
Roan
Shortest javelin throw.
Sass
Yeah. Before that throw, you were just sass. And then you became lil sass.
Roan
Yeah.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
I mean, you could drop a javelin.
Sass
Little jab.
Harry
Jab sucks, though. Jab. Get jab out of the Olympics. Shot put, mid disc, S tier.
Roan
You think so? Disc.
Harry
Have you ever watched someone throw, like. We had one kid who was on the football team. He would do the full spin around.
Roan
He.
Harry
He would, like, bring his own discs from home companies. Like, he's like polishing them off and then he just launches it. Like, it like, like, like the length of like a home run.
Sass
No.
Harry
Soaring through the sky.
Sass
Wow.
Harry
He would win every single match. Every single meet.
Roan
Doesn't. Didn't like, Brock Lesnar's daughter do that or something like that?
Harry
I have no clue.
Roan
Or maybe she was throwing the.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
Or she was throwing the. The shot put. Maybe it's like a big, strong girl sport.
Sass
Yeah, that's cool.
Roan
Old girl from there.
Harry
Shot put. I just don't like that.
Roan
That you don't like the motion.
Harry
I don't like the motion. And then I feel like if you don't. If you've never held the shot put, it's not really that entertaining to watch because you don't understand how heavy it is.
Roan
Yeah.
Harry
Like, if you're like, I'm just thinking viewership for the Olympics here.
Sass
That's what I was thinking.
Harry
Yeah, I know. I'm on the same page, but if, like, if you're an app, if you're just, like, a random person and you throw on and you've never. You never watched shot put, you never held a shot, you never held one of the balls you toss it on, you're gonna be like, that, dude, just threw that 10ft.
Roan
I think they should just do the Summer Olympic twice and just get rid of the Olympic. The winter shit.
Harry
See, I don't agree with that at all.
Sass
By the way, did you guys hear about the. The World Cup? There's going to be a gay pride game.
Harry
Oh, hell yeah.
Sass
And the two teams that are playing each other for the gay pride game are Egypt and Iran.
Harry
No.
Roan
Good. God.
Harry
That feels like. That might start, like, a war.
Sass
There's a gay pride honorary match, and the randomly selected teams are Egypt versus Iran.
Roan
Why would they randomly select?
Harry
Crazy.
Roan
Just pick some countries that are cool.
Harry
It should just be, like, the United States and Canada.
Roan
What the. Yeah, Egypt and Iran.
Harry
That is bad news.
Roan
They're just going to. The players are just going to, like, hop the fence and start, like, fighting the fans.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
Yeah.
Harry
Should we go? Where is it?
Sass
I don't know. But, dude, the final's going to be at MetLife.
Harry
I know. It's going to be, like, $10,000 tickets.
Sass
Not on game time.
Harry
We use game time.
Sass
I already checked.
Harry
How much?
Sass
There were some good ones that were 16,000.
Harry
Per.
Roan
Yeah.
Harry
For a group. What are we talking here?
Roan
Per 16,000.
Harry
I can't swing that. Can't swing that. For my first ever soccer game, I.
Roan
Just bought a cigar, so.
Harry
Yeah. Yeah, true.
Roan
I can only have one.
Sass
It would be fun to go. I would like to go to the World Cup. Yeah, let's go to the World Cup. Same with game time.
Roan
I'll go to the gay. I'll go to the gay game.
Harry
I would go to the gay game. Is that in New York?
Sass
I don't know.
Harry
Probably not.
Sass
Probably San Francisco. Do you think that. Seattle, actually.
Roan
That makes sense. It's the new San Francisco, though. Yeah, that would be great. I would like to go to a game, though. That's just. Guys. Maybe we tailgate a little bit, but I'm afraid I wouldn't get it. I'm honestly more interested in going to a, like, British game. Like, club sides and like that.
Sass
Yeah, like. Oh, yeah. Well, right. I've been to two of. I've been to yeah. Two Premier league games.
Harry
What'd you say? You like good or what?
Roan
Like a British game, Premier League where there's like this clubs and like the sides like care about it. Not like people like.
Harry
Yeah, yeah.
Roan
I think like a British guy cares more about Everton if they're Everton supporter than they do about the British national team.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
I think that the British get into it for the net for the. Because they're. They've been knocking at the door lately. England. Yeah. They're. They've got a good team.
Harry
Yeah. I would love to go to a soccer game. I want to go to a rowdy one. Want like. Like what you're saying? Like I want it to be.
Sass
Let's go to England. Let's go to England against a country that it colonized. So that's the. Where you really find.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
India or something.
Sass
Yeah. England versus Argentina would be ideal.
Harry
That would be.
Sass
But that's.
Harry
But Argentina would probably smoke them, right?
Sass
No, England. England's been really elite lately.
Harry
I thought Argentina was like the team.
Sass
They won the last World cup, obviously. But you never know. True, true.
Roan
Make your guys make your pick. Right now, who do you guys think?
Harry
England or Argentina in this match that doesn't exist.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
I got France my buddy was telling me about. He's working at a construction site that's a dump.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
In on the Schuylkill River. And the guy who runs the dump said that inside the dump dump there's. There's a huge pile of condoms. Somehow what I was like. And they're like positive of this that there's like one part of the dump is all condoms. And I'm confused. I was too.
Harry
He works at an actual dump.
Roan
Should I read exactly.
Sass
Yeah. They're on the construction site he's working on. There is a. A human defecate.
Harry
Or is it. He works at dump. Dump site. Did you guys.
Roan
I'm working at this enormous warehouse right now that's going to be an Amazon data center. And there's a landfill right next door. So there's all these trash seagulls that. That work there. And I was chatting with a guy who works the gate and he informed me that there's a condom pile in there so tall it would blow your mind.
Sass
We're talking used condoms.
Roan
I'm pretty sure it must be right and must be.
Harry
Do they have to like separate it for some reason from the other trash?
Roan
Maybe. And he said that the. The seagulls love it. That it's like their delicacy that the seagulls are Just going to town on the condom pile. That's.
Harry
Tell us a photo of the condom pile.
Sass
Did I tell you guys this? I. I was at the station. No, I did. Wait. I had no Christmas tree this year. Put col. Colorful lights are on my condom. Or I was at Penn Station, and I was getting on the a. Like the A train or the ce. So I walked up from Penn Station through the subway tunnel, and as I was coming up the steps to the subway platform, I saw draped so neatly across the step, a used condo. Them in the Penn Station subway station. And it occurred to me, I was like, who. Who had sex on these steps and had not only had sex on these steps, but had protected sex.
Harry
Yeah. That's crazy.
Sass
On these steps where they were like, listen, I'm sorry, but I don't know where you've been.
Harry
Yeah. Yeah.
Roan
Like, I.
Sass
You know, who would be so dirty and desperate in that situation as to need to bone in the subway steps?
Roan
And even the fact that they're laying it out like that makes it seem like they're drying it out for future use. Could be they're, like, hanging it, like, on a clothesline in the end.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
Just airing out my Jimmy.
Sass
It looked like the wind sock. That tells you how to land the helicopter.
Roan
Yeah.
Harry
Small airport people are definitely in Penn Station, though.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
But of course.
Sass
I agree. But it's like they're practicing safe sex.
Harry
Yeah. That's insane.
Sass
As the E train rumbles through, safe.
Roan
Sex for them might be way more important.
Harry
It might be.
Sass
You know what? You're not wrong, and I advocate for it, but for.
Roan
It might be life and death for them.
Sass
It's amazing to me. Yeah.
Roan
Because they don't. They don't have TVs to see the prep commercials or anything like that. They don't know that, like, AIDS has basically been beaten.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
They've been underground since 96.
Harry
Yeah, it's. I. I honestly haven't been in the actual Penn Station in a while because now every time I go there, I go to the Moynihan.
Sass
Moynihan's the best.
Harry
Moynihan's good. I just don't know how they've been able to keep it under such control while Penn Station runs rampant.
Roan
I think that's why. I think it's Penn State Amsterdam, and it's like a free injection site. And Moynihan is, like, where the bourgeoisie go. And.
Harry
But don't you think if you were on. If you were like, if I'm. If I'm homeless and I'm at Penn. I'm going to Moynihan. Like, Avi. Like, that's the first place I'm going.
Roan
Yeah. And it's probably like the Italian snipers from, like, the.
Harry
Yeah. You think that's what it is?
Roan
Bosnian war. Just like, sitting up top with, like.
Sass
Yeah. Why. Why would you. Why would you need to go to Moynihan?
Harry
It's like. It's like a. You're. It's like your apartment just got renovated overnight.
Sass
Yeah, but.
Roan
But you stick out like a sore thumb.
Sass
People are resistant to change.
Harry
True, true.
Sass
Lights are brighter there.
Roan
You know, you can't be freely homeless in. In one circumstances.
Sass
The pigeons don't taste as good in Moynihan.
Harry
Yeah. Moynihan is a little bit.
Roan
A little too sanitary.
Harry
Yeah. Little too bright. I think that's. I think you nailed it with the brightness.
Sass
It feels like the Lou.
Harry
Yeah, it does.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
There's no come tower. There's no power out there. That being said, though, if. If, like. I'm trying to think how to say this.
Sass
If.
Roan
If come was already an accepted food of, like, animals or something like that, people would be treating it like a delicacy.
Harry
I've already. I've heard enough of this conversation.
Roan
You know that women put salmon sperm is, like, a very accepted, like, facial technique now?
Sass
I have heard that. Yeah.
Harry
Salmon sperm.
Roan
Yes.
Harry
No, I haven't heard that. I didn't know salmon.
Roan
It's like. It's very. It's like a very accepted, like, technique.
Harry
Interesting. Of like, I haven't heard. I haven't seen nor heard anyone do it. So how can it. How accepted can it be?
Roan
Let me look at it up.
Harry
There's a lot of people doing it.
Roan
Everybody's doing it.
Harry
Like, if. Like, if, like, you go home for the holidays, like, you're like, multiple members of your family will have. Go to your salmon.
Roan
Ask your sewing circle when you get home.
Harry
I'll ask my sewing circle. I'll say, when was the last time you guys had salmon sperm on your.
Roan
Imagine the life of the salmon that are getting farmed for their sperm.
Harry
I know, right? Just a confusing existence.
Roan
Just getting mercilessly beat off at the salmon farm. But they have to keep you alive.
Harry
I know. It's brutal.
Roan
Lurched over. Or maybe it's awesome.
Harry
I gotta get. I gotta get. I gotta go fishing.
Roan
Yeah.
Harry
I'm jonesing to get out on the water.
Sass
She's coming to New Zealand with me.
Harry
I can't believe you're gonna go fishing and you're gonna Catch insanely big fish.
Sass
I wonder. I don't. There's a chance I don't catch a single fish.
Harry
If you go with a God you will catch a fish.
Sass
I hope so. But they say that we have to stalk one fish over the course of a mile.
Roan
That'll be awesome too though.
Sass
I'll be happy to hike and walk and be active in that way.
Harry
It's gonna be like you're gonna be walking through a river with nobody else on it and it's gonna be like the greatest view you've ever seen in your entire lifetime.
Sass
I agree.
Harry
And you're gonna be so focused on just trying to find the one fish that like nothing else will even exist.
Roan
And the fish will probably have never seen a human before.
Sass
Exactly.
Roan
Like come up.
Harry
You can just like put your hand out. Just pick it up out of the water.
Sass
I think that because one none of the fish are stocked. They're all wild. Right. So that plus the fact that the water is so clear.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
When they see you they get the out of there.
Harry
Yeah. Well some clouds would be. Would be nice.
Roan
Are there bears out there or what's like the natural like predator.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
What is fish or like what would be a scary thing to run into and get?
Harry
Spiders.
Roan
Definitely huge spiders.
Harry
Big ass spiders.
Sass
I don't know but are the spiders eating the fish?
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
No, that's how big they are.
Roan
They're not. I think that in.
Harry
They're huge in New Zealand. They're like dogs.
Sass
They're throwing the web into the. They're casting. The spiders are casting.
Roan
When they.
Harry
Spiders from Minecraft when Australia was first.
Roan
Settled I think that there were like 10 foot tall sloths there. Really? Yeah.
Harry
That would be that they should still have that. I wish those still existed.
Roan
Yeah. I'm pretty sure that was probably the first thing they killed.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
We're gonna have to get rid of these.
Harry
Imagine just like a ten foot sloth just chilling on the couch.
Roan
How crazy would that be?
Harry
You have it as a pet.
Sass
Big sasquatch.
Roan
Yeah.
Harry
Probably like you could probably teach a sloth some English.
Sass
Harry, tell us about your Christmas traditions in your family. Can you just tell us what it's like when you wake up on Christmas day? First of all, are you going to honor your by waking up at a decent hour?
Harry
Of course I'm going to honor my family by waking up what is now for you? Christmas will wake up early. I mean my. We probably won't wake up. We. When I was like younger we used to wake up at like 6am and honestly, that probably went on a little longer than I would like to admit. And then I think in the last couple of years, we started waking up at like, what? Just whenever everyone wakes up. So like 9, 10, 10.
Sass
Occasionally you'll sleep till 10 on Christmas Day?
Harry
No, no.
Roan
They're all waiting for him to get up.
Sass
Absolutely.
Harry
Oh, no, no, not me.
Roan
Well, I never. Never. You.
Harry
I'm up when I go home, it's a lot harder to like, stay up late and sleep in. Like, it's not. I kind of get on like a normal. I mean, I'm on a normal sleep schedule now, but. Yeah, I mean, I went to bed at like 12:30 last night and woke up at 9.
Sass
What, you always gotta shade that by two hours? Yeah, he gives us his sleep times in Mountain time time.
Roan
Like. Or like he's like reporting it to a doctor of like, how many she drinks.
Sass
You have to convert Harry's times from Mountain time to Eastern standard time.
Harry
You're not wrong. I am on. I'm on Central time, though. I don't. I don't live on Eastern time. I live on Central.
Roan
Yeah. Respect.
Sass
God damn. Do we know you well?
Harry
I mean, everyone I know is on. Like, not everyone I know, but like, if I'm. If I'm playing video game. Everyone I'm playing video games games with is on there earlier than me. So I'm the one that's got to make the sacrifice to stay up a little later.
Sass
Oh, your friends? Yeah, because they're in Chicago.
Harry
They're all, well, MOOCs in Chicago. Matt's in Denver in Telluride and playing. Been playing a lot with Jerry lately.
Roan
Is that you name the team after where Matt lives? Yeah, that's fucking gay.
Sass
Bo's. And Bo's in Maine, though. Bo's on your time.
Harry
Well, we did it because they had. Have t. The teams have a location. There's like optics.
Roan
Yeah, but your team's not there.
Harry
One of our. One of our founders is.
Roan
Matt's not a. Matt's a founder.
Harry
Of course.
Sass
How.
Roan
What involvement has he had with Telluride? Bush?
Harry
He made the logo, bro.
Roan
He put it in.
Harry
AI, no, he designed it himself.
Roan
That's. This is.
Harry
He's a great artist.
Roan
Artist.
Harry
Genuinely.
Roan
I don't doubt that, but I just don't like, this is the first anyone's ever. Does, like, Jerry or Mook know that Matt is one of the.
Harry
Like me, Matt, Jerry and Mook played video games the last two nights.
Roan
That's insane.
Harry
Matt is on some of the meetings with us.
Roan
He Is saying what?
Harry
We're getting Bo involved, too.
Roan
What's Matt saying in the meetings?
Harry
Well, he's just. He's a talent scout.
Roan
Well, you need it now.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
What was I gonna say? Christmas?
Roan
Please, a little bit more.
Harry
Oh, yeah.
Sass
Traditions. Please give us traditions. A little bit more run of show on a Christmas day. Well, would you guys have a Christmas Eve tradition?
Harry
Yeah, we'll. We'll go. Everyone comes to our house on Christmas Eve.
Sass
Who's everyone?
Harry
My family. Like, my cousins.
Sass
Oh, your whole extended family?
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
Do most of them live.
Harry
They all live there.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
Yeah.
Sass
That's cool.
Roan
And then so everybody's cracking some beers. You're going to break a 0.0 out? Maybe.
Harry
Yeah, probably. I'll probably have a 0.0.
Roan
That's nice. NAS for you?
Harry
Couple Nas, anybody?
Roan
Does anyone get, like, loose?
Harry
Not like really anymore. As much as they used to. Like, my little sister will get faced, but outside of that, no.
Roan
Why are you throwing her under the bus?
Harry
Yeah, because it's that she will. She's in college, though, so it's like, who cares?
Sass
What about. What about. Do you have sort of an uncle or a cousin now who's, you know, become aware of your preferred substance and say, hey, Harry, you wanna.
Harry
No, we don't do that.
Sass
You want to get out? We don't do that. Really quick little walk down the driveway. No, no, we'll go see the Christmas lights.
Harry
Yeah, no, we don't do that.
Roan
Well, with edible technology, you don't have to go anywhere.
Sass
They're. They're eating.
Harry
You would know.
Roan
Yeah.
Sass
400 milligram gingerbread house, taking down an entire siding or the front porch.
Roan
You want the roof? I'm more of a drinkable.
Harry
Yeah, you are. You're a drinkable guy.
Roan
Yeah, but I own it. I. I have no shame about the things I do.
Harry
Neither do I. I'm a shameless man.
Sass
So, night, Christmas Eve, is there. Is there a huge sort of potluck dinner? Everybody brings something.
Harry
The was that. I don't. I don't really know who they're working.
Sass
How does it work?
Harry
To that extent? My mom and my. My family will cook a lot, and then, you know, people will bring stuff. People bring sides.
Sass
Well, it wasn't such a hard thing to answer, was it?
Harry
Now, you know, maybe a corn casserole roll.
Sass
Yeah, there you go. You're like, I don't know. I don't know. And then you just knew.
Roan
Exactly.
Harry
I was distracted because I heard someone yell outside.
Sass
Understood. Then the family clears out. Next day, you know, do you guys set out cookies for Santa or anything?
Harry
Of course.
Sass
Yeah. Write him a note. Yeah.
Harry
Oh, no.
Sass
Oh.
Roan
Who's the youngest member of your family?
Sass
Now, I didn't know if there were little kids.
Roan
Like, does any of your cousins have kids?
Harry
No. I think everyone's like, my. I have a. I have a cousin who's younger, but he's not that young. I think he's in high school, so. Or maybe middle.
Sass
I could see you being the cousin that spoiled Santa for all the other younger cousins.
Harry
Oh, no. Absolutely not.
Roan
And then felt bad, so we started dressing up as Santa.
Harry
No. Never in a million years would I do that.
Sass
Okay, well, sorry to keep going.
Roan
We actually.
Harry
I actually think my family has never actually addressed it that Santa doesn't exist. We just still all go under the assumption that it's real. Like, well, like, my mom will still be like, Santa's.
Sass
Santa's.
Harry
Like, Santa needs to know what you want because he's. He's getting. He's getting busy.
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
And I'm like, I don't want anything.
Sass
And then your dad's like, harry, I think Santa's going to bring you a lump of coal.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
Which you can put in your pipe and smoke if you want. Bastard coal. Now, morning of you wake up. Do you guys do stockings?
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
First.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
Huh. And who's putting stuff in the stockings? Do you get stocking presents for your family?
Harry
I get presents for my family. Yeah. But I don't get them stocking stuffers.
Sass
So that's gonna be socks and an orange, some chocolate.
Harry
Yeah. I mean, I don't really get a lot of stuff anymore. Like, it's not like I'm waking up and like.
Roan
Like running down the steps. Yeah, I mean, well, Dal, too. She's sending it right to the office.
Harry
I mean, Santa Claus came early. Yeah.
Roan
Do you think that it's gauche to ask for things for Christmas? Because I think it is, but I it to, like, you know, your parents point, like, it would probably be easier on them if you just said what you wanted instead of making them guess.
Sass
Yeah. I mean, my parents ask me what I want and then I have to come up with something. And I didn't really want much this year, so I just told them some things I need. Like, I need more coffee beans.
Roan
Jesus.
Sass
I ran out of my coffee beans.
Harry
That was the best you could come up with? Go to cvs.
Sass
You buy coffee at cvs.
Harry
You can buy coffee anywhere.
Sass
Come on, dude.
Harry
Starbucks.
Sass
Good coffee. Yeah, I. I like my coffee. So there's a. An Amazing. And he's a fan of the show.
Harry
He's definitely got the whole. You're like spritzing down the beans before you got. Putting him in the humidifier.
Sass
Whatever. Ring. What's the thing that eats money? They spray for it in Breaking Bad.
Harry
DraftKings.com God.
Sass
Oh my God. Dude, come on. You couldn't resist that. I couldn't. Oh my God. That's a great joke. But it's such a bad thing to say.
Harry
I was trying to come up with something else to say and then I just rushed to it. Stupid.
Roan
All right.
Sass
Back in here. Okay.
Harry
Now what's something that eats money?
Roan
Freaking kids.
Harry
Exactly.
Sass
It's like glow worm, lice, something. Ring.
Harry
Ringworm.
Sass
There's some kind of insect that eats money. I can't remember what it's called anyway.
Harry
Oh, like it's like a. Like it can be. It's on money.
Sass
Pest. Remember the scene in Breaking Bad when she spray. She sprays the gigantic sort of storage unit.
Roan
Yeah.
Sass
Of money.
Harry
But I don't prevent it from being.
Sass
Eaten by the silverfish.
Harry
Silver fish? Termites.
Roan
A ten foot sloth, perhaps.
Sass
Perhaps. All right, so Hannah, like coffee roasters is the. Is the group the guy down out in Kauai.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
Yeah. Who I met when we went out there to play golf with foreplay. And he gave me a bunch of bags of beans. And I love that coffee so much that every year now I get two five pound bags.
Harry
Okay.
Sass
That lasts me the year. Oh, and I've just run out, so I'm getting some new coffee.
Roan
Yeah.
Harry
That's not a bad. That's not a bad gift then.
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
How much does that coffee run you?
Sass
Like $108 a bag. So 216. And that is coffee for the entire year. And I never buy coffee at a coffee shop unless I'm on the road.
Harry
That's crazy.
Sass
Well, think of how much money I save.
Harry
Well, no, I'm not saying it's not.
Sass
At ten dollars a cup. Roughly nine bucks a cup these days for my extra shot. Iced oat milk latte.
Harry
Yeah. How much caffeine are you guys drinking a day? Just that you don't want your one cup and done.
Sass
Roan's a midday re. Upper right.
Roan
I, I'll. I had like a cappuccino at five o' clock yesterday. I walk through caffeine like the juggernaut.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
It doesn't do to me. There's like, I don't get. I don't go up, I don't go down.
Harry
You need Some of that Panera lemonade.
Roan
Yeah.
Harry
Honestly, the turbo, it's like, jittering. That shit's gone. They got rid of it.
Roan
Really?
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
Yeah, because, like, teens were having heart attacks.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
What do you guys want for Christmas? You made fun of my coffee beans.
Harry
No, I mean, I know I have problems. I didn't know you meant that. I didn't even know you meant a year supply coffee. No, that's a good gift.
Sass
Yeah.
Roan
I don't have. I don't come up with stuff. And I know that it makes it harder on the people around me, but it's just like, I can't be. Like, for Christmas, I want this. Like, I just feel like.
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
I just don't. There's just not that many. Like, I just don't know what. What I want. Like, I don't know what I want. That would not be, like, a pain in the ass.
Roan
Amazon. Loki has killed Christmas.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
The things that you desire are at your fingertips. Like, they'll be here today if you truly want them.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
So getting gifts for Christmas is just the exercise and patience.
Harry
Yeah.
Roan
It's like, I want this thing, but I'll tell someone else and wait to have the thing I want so you can feel good about what you've given me.
Harry
Yeah. Yeah.
Sass
I'm trying to think. I would love to get you a cleaning lady for your apartment for Christmas.
Harry
That's okay.
Sass
But I'm trying to think of what she would need to do in order to. For you to let her in. Like, if she just showed up and she was some famous Twitch streamer, she.
Roan
Would have to Trojan. You should get a big Trojan horse.
Sass
Yes.
Roan
And then inside it is a group of small Panamanian cleaning ladies.
Sass
Or a giant pile of Trojan condoms.
Roan
Yes.
Harry
Used with seagulls.
Sass
A Trojan horse filled with Trojan condoms.
Harry
I feel like I forgot. I was gonna say something, but I think you gotta get out of here. Right?
Sass
No, I'm okay for a few more minutes.
Roan
No, I gotta get out of here.
Harry
Okay.
Sass
Well.
Harry
Solid episode.
Sass
My Christmas morning.
Roan
Yeah.
Harry
Do tell. Do tell. Well, you're gonna be in New Zealand.
Sass
But every other year of my life. Every other year, this beloved tradition. Which I will miss. Yeah. And will have a hole in my heart.
Harry
Well, you can do it next year.
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
Unless you're in Australia or some.
Sass
Yeah. We wake up. We do. We do stockings first, of course. And then my mom makes us these sourdough pancakes. Excuse me?
Roan
Waffles.
Sass
Sourdough waffles with, like, a raspberry preserve on top from the summer's raspberries that she keeps in the freezer.
Harry
Jesus, that sounds phenomenal.
Sass
And we do pure maple syrup from Maine that has been heated up with a little bit of some butter on it. And then we have to go do presents. And about a third of the way through presents. I am so tired from the waffles that I can't keep my eyes open and I get grumpy and I ruin crackers. Christmas forever. Every year this happens. I'm telling you, dude, I get so tired, people get. Bary did a joke about it, but it's just true.
Harry
Yeah.
Sass
That eating syrupy waffles more than taking Ambien.
Harry
I don't know. Food doesn't affect me.
Sass
Makes me crash.
Harry
Waffle like food I don't get tired from at all.
Roan
Yeah. Well, the amount of sugar you're describing is like a 40 oz liquor container filled with just.
Sass
Yeah. Sugar. Yeah.
Harry
That is a. That is good though. We do cinnamon. Cinnamon rolls.
Sass
Oh, nice.
Harry
Yeah. Incredible.
Sass
Homemade. Yeah, Just that for breakfast. Did you do eggs and stuff?
Harry
We do eggs and stuff too.
Sass
Yeah.
Harry
Hash browns.
Sass
Nice, etc.
Harry
Etc.
Roan
This is my first year launching into my own traditions.
Harry
I know.
Roan
Oh, cool. So I'm gonna have to get some raspberries from this summer's harvest.
Sass
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Roan
As a spread.
Sass
We didn't have a very good harvest this year because we moved the bushes. We had to move them.
Harry
Oh, and they just come back?
Sass
Yeah, they weren't happy.
Harry
That's a big setback.
Sass
Last thing I'll say is after that, after the presents, we go to Popham beach and we walk on the beach.
Harry
Oh, very nice.
Sass
Which is really nice.
Harry
Beautiful. We don't do. We do them. We don't leave the house. We're staying inside on Christmas.
Sass
That's fine.
Roan
That sounds amazing. Yeah. I haven't done a Christmas this, I don't think in my entire life where I haven't gone to multiple locations. Really? I used to fly to Chicago every day on Christmas day. Every year on Christmas day.
Harry
Wow.
Roan
It was brutal.
Sass
That's.
Roan
And then for the last 10 years, I'm driving to multiple houses. This year I'm waking up in New York, driving to Harleysville, Pennsylvania and then driving to like Villanova.
Harry
Villanophone.
Roan
Exactly. That sounds. I love a beach walk. I love for it not to be a grind.
Harry
Well, this is. You signed up for this, brother. This is it. This is your life now.
Roan
It has been. I need to get these new traditions.
Harry
You gotta get these new traditions on lock. What are we thinking? Night before Christmas Yeah.
Roan
Yeah. I don't know. I don't even know. I don't even know what to do. Maybe I'm definitely gonna have make a roast.
Harry
Why don't you read the kids night before Christmas?
Roan
Yeah.
Harry
Yeah, I like it.
Roan
They won't give a I read them books. They do not care at all. All right.
Harry
All right.
Roan
All right.
Sass
Sweet.
Harry
Happy holidays. Thank you, everybody. We'll see you next week or I don't know when, but yeah. Oh, yeah. We'll see you guys next week. For one episode. Goodbye. So I looked older to you Came around I was only falling one way? I was only falling one way? So that you listen now I come alive? I was only falling one way?
Sass
I was only falling one way?
Harry
I was only falling one way?
Sass
I was only falling one way?
Harry
That is true you're right.
Sass
Did you.
Harry
To realize no one can take me alive? I was only falling one way? Distant life Call it just a memory? Take my hand and you can see. Sam. Me. Sa.
Podcast: Son of a Boy Dad
Host: Barstool Sports
Date: December 18, 2025
In this end-of-year episode, Lil Sasquatch confronts his recent step into the world as a college dropout, while producer Rone and co-host Harry join him for a playful, rambling, and often self-deprecating look at manhood, holiday traditions, and life’s little absurdities. As their last in-person recording of 2025, the trio reflect on rituals, office politics, and the hilarity of everyday struggles—from forbidden office cigars to who does the heavy lifting on family trips and the mysteries of Christmas lights.
“Nothing makes me happier than a cigar. I don't want to upset the company.” – Roan (11:32)
“Eating syrupy waffles more than taking Ambien.” – Sass (85:36)
“Our camp was called Windmill because we had an old abandoned windmill on the island. It was great.” – Sass (32:46)
The conversation is informal, fast-moving, and densely packed with banter, inside jokes, and self-mockery. The trio are irreverent but warm, quick to poke fun at themselves and each other, but always returning to real, relatable anxieties about adulthood, tradition, and friendship.
“No Cigars for Office Men” is quintessential Son of a Boy Dad: equal parts nostalgia, social observation, and playful chaos, with hilarious detours into office politics, masculinity, family rituals, and the awkwardness of growing up. While celebrating a year of shows, the hosts lean into the discomfort, joy, and absurdity of what it means to be an adult at the holidays—and whether you can ever really learn “how to be a man” by torching a stogie at 11AM in your place of work.
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