Ring the Bell | Son of a Boy Dad #365 ft. Tommy Pope

Summary

Son of a Boy Dad #365: "Ring the Bell" ft. Tommy Pope

Release Date: January 8, 2026

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Episode Theme and Purpose

This episode of Son of a Boy Dad brings comedian Tommy Pope into a classic hangout with hosts Rone, Francis, and Chris (Lil Sasquatch). True to the show's irreverent format, the crew veers from raucous comedy to earnest talk on comedy scenes, sports, food, manhood, and the search for identity after leaving college. Tommy Pope's presence is both catalyst for chaos and a touchstone for serious reflection, mentoring the younger hosts while exchanging classic ball-busting and stories about personal growth.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tommy Pope’s Age and "Old Man" Persona

• The group relentlessly ribs Tommy about being the "oldest guy," setting an energetic, teasing tone.
• Tommy embraces his role, blending self-deprecation with bravado about his looks and experience.
• [01:31, Chris]: "I'm excited to talk about how old you are."
• [02:02, Tommy]: "Why are you dressed like this?"

2. Comedy Scene Rivalry: Austin vs. New York

• Tommy recounts moving to Austin, the city's strengths (stage time, cost of living, social life), and the overblown rivalry with New York comics.
• He dismisses the beef as “stupid,” emphasizing that each city serves a different purpose.
• [12:49, Tommy]: "Austin's great for what it is. It's great stage time... taxes, social life."
• [12:45, Tommy]: "It's so stupid. It's foolish. Who gives?"

3. Food, Cooking, and "Manhood" via Palate

• Tangents abound: the hosts discuss beans, chocolate, gourmet snacks, and cooking, with Tommy famed for his culinary prowess but refusing the "chef" label.
• The gang snarks about Triscuits and accoutrements, showing off both food snobbery and frat-boy taunts.
• [23:06, Francis]: "This is a food guy. This is a guy who could talk about food."
• [23:11, Tommy]: "I'm a cook."
• [90:02-90:27, Chris/Tommy]: Share a detailed recipe for venison Korean rice bowls, debating hoisin vs. personal sauce craft.

4. Reflections on Manhood, Sports, and Life Lessons

• Tommy recounts his youth sports days, championing the camaraderie and toughness built through football in an era before CTE hysteria.
• He discusses writing a New York Times op-ed about youth football, arguing that formative violence and competition build character.
• [82:52, Tommy]: "Development of a child's personality outweighs the brain matter. At a certain level."
• [80:07, Tommy]: "You know your character, your camaraderie, your fear, you know, stepping up..."

5. Hobbies, Obsessions, and Generational Differences

• The hosts riff on generational divides in interests from golf to fashion to hair care.
• Tommy details his plant obsession and home decor in Austin, then small stories fly about juggling, sneaker collecting, and hair transplant discoveries.
• [61:46, Chris]: Juggling demonstration.
• [65:04, Tommy]: Coffee mania and the search for the “perfect” espresso machine.

6. Absurd Bits, Rake Gags & Callback Jokes

• Tommy's “rake bit” (repeated location-based recommendations) is a running callback, layered into the banter and culminating in self-aware commentary about madcap bit structure.
• [88:56, Tommy]: "That's what's called a rake bit. You gotta lose it to gain it."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Being Old, Yet Resilient

Tommy Pope [10:16]: "I'm almost double his life and I lived twice as long."

The Austin/NY Comedy "Feud"

Tommy Pope [12:45]: "It's so stupid. It's foolish. Who gives?"

Chris [12:23]: "New York comedy scene thinks it's superior to the Austin scene and vice versa."
Tommy [12:37]: "I don't think it's vice versa. I think people are just angry."

Philosophy of Manhood and Football

Tommy Pope [82:52]: "Development of a child's personality outweighs the brain matter. At a certain level."

Tommy Pope [83:54]: "No. Violence is imperative."
Francis [80:05]: "What do you mean? Like, as a person, like being a teammate?"

On Cooking and Status

Chris [23:09]: "You're a big time chef."
Tommy [23:11]: "That's not true...I'm a cook."

Tommy [23:24]: "It's like a fat titty Tiktoker saying she's a comedian. You haven't been through the trenches."

The ‘Rake Bit’ Explainer

Tommy Pope [88:56]: "That's what's called a rake bit. You gotta lose it to gain it."

On Comedy Identity

Francis [84:44]: "It is truly a dream of mine to be published in either that or the New York Times."
Tommy Pope [84:45]: "You haven't been published in New York Times. No, you dumb pussy."

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Segment Timestamps for Major Topics

• [01:16] – Tommy enters, banter about birthdays, age, pool, and fashion.
• [07:00] – "Bean" as a slur, food and cultural riffing begins.
• [11:14] – Introduction of Tommy as guest, start of Austin vs. NY comedy talk.
• [12:49] – Comedy scene rivalry, Tommy’s take on Austin.
• [16:19] – Tommy's home life in Austin, plants and house improvement.
• [17:30] – Football talk, specifically the Eagles upcoming tough games.
• [23:06] – Deep-dive into food, snacks, and culinary hierarchy.
• [24:00] – Theoretical question about having a daughter in porn—would you want her to be great or terrible? (Absurd philosophical debate)
• [31:12] – Extended riff on Italian heritage, meatballs, gabagool, and micro-ethnic pride.
• [32:59] – Golf obsession and “Patreon money” style upgrades.
• [61:46] – Juggling demo, talk about fixations and hobbies.
• [65:04] – Espresso machine obsession: from Bialetti pots to $6,000 machines.
• [80:07] – Life lessons learned from sports and the value of “team” in growing up.
• [82:52] – Tommy’s op-ed in NYT about youth football and CTE.
• [88:56] – Explanation and justification of the "rake bit" callback.
• [90:02] – Cooking show ideas, steak-offs, and sharing recipes.

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Additional Highlights

Running Gags & Callbacks

• "Have you ever been to...?"—Tommy’s recurring bit of referencing obscure places with the best food/drink as a meta riff on his own old-man tendencies.
• Ethnic Tension for Laughter—A tongue-in-cheek, equal-opportunity roasting style, typical for the Barstool universe (“Ring the bell!” every time a potential slur gets neutered by inside-joke status).
• Manhood by Manual Labor—Tommy’s pride in never using Botox, lifts, or hair transplants, “aging like a man.”

Memorable Anecdotes

• Fat Aunt at the Batman Movie: Tommy’s story about his aunt laughing so hard at a phallic scene she peed her pants, leading to a pedantic sidebar on the exact meaning of “phallic.” [53:01-54:15]
• Selling Jordans: Chris explains why he offloaded his sneaker collection in bulk, leading to hilarious logistical gripes about sneakerhead buyers. [73:14-76:27]
• Sports Injuries and Rituals: Recollections of youth football traditions like running fat kids in trash bags to make weight. [81:45-82:06]

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Tone and Style

The episode is crude, rapid-fire, and jocular, true to Barstool’s blend of locker room confessional and postmodern self-mockery. There's an undercurrent of generational mentorship as Tommy Pope straddles the worlds of Gen X “tough guy” and the terminally online younger comics, all seasoned with food nerd-outs, sports, and philosophical tangents on how to build a healthy worldview.

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Conclusion

"Ring the Bell" is both a send-up of, and meditation on, what it means to be a man in 2026 America—half spent in roast battles and half in the kitchen or on the golf course, seeking meaning (and espresso) in camaraderie, competition, and gallows humor.

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Further Listening

• Stuff Island Podcast with Tommy Pope (for more of his takes)
• Full episode available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube.

Transcript

[Francis]

Hey. Son of a boy. Dad. Listeners, you can find every episode on Apple, podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Podcast Announcer]

Out on the course, they're the PGA tourist's best players. But in the arena, they're prime time. And season two of TGL, presented by SoFi, is back with lights, cameras, action. We're talking big moments, big personalities, big names in the stands, all on the big screen. Big time matchups with shot clocks, Hammer drops timeouts, overtime, playoffs, it's city versus city, squad versus squad. This sport just hits different under the lights. It's TGL, presented by SoFi.

[Tommy Pope]

Keep up. It's golf.

[Podcast Announcer]

Tune in to every match, only on espn. Out on the course, they're the PGA Tour's best players. But in the arena, they're prime time. And season two of TGL, presented by SoFi, is back with lights, cameras, action. We're talking big moments, big personalities, big names in the stands, all on the big screen. Big time matchups with shot clocks. Hammer drops timeouts over time. And playoffs, it's city versus city, squad versus squad. The sport just hits different under the lights. It's TGL, presented by SoFi.

[Tommy Pope]

Keep up. It's golf.

[Podcast Announcer]

Tune in to every match, only on espn.

[Francis]

Oh, my God. How was Soder?

[Tommy Pope]

It was great.

[Francis]

This will be significantly worse, brother. Don't worry.

[Tommy Pope]

I beg the difference.

[Chris]

I love that Soder's a kid to you because you're so old.

[Tommy Pope]

Don't start. You.

[Chris]

I'm excited to talk about how old you are.

[Tommy Pope]

How old I am.

[Chris]

You're the oldest guy I know.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, I look great. Something like this.

[Francis]

You do look great.

[Tommy Pope]

You guys want to read?

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You could peel a volume off the wall if you want.

[Ron]

Not for pleasure.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

No fly fishing books, none of that.

[Ron]

I actually do read fly fishing books.

[Tommy Pope]

Got him.

[Ron]

Tom Rosenbauer.

[Francis]

Who's that?

[Ron]

It's the king of fly fishing.

[Tommy Pope]

Why are you dressed like this?

[Chris]

What do you mean?

[Tommy Pope]

You're great.

[Chris]

Thank you.

[Tommy Pope]

Like why?

[Chris]

I got obsessed with Japanese clothing.

[Tommy Pope]

Yes.

[Chris]

And I bought a whole bunch of it. And now to not feel shitty about my obsession, I wear it.

[Tommy Pope]

I got a pair of Jap pants that are like.

[Chris]

No, it's actually pronounced gap. Where. What are you doing here? You got something you're promoting or.

[Tommy Pope]

Say hi to my friends. He being a dick, you know?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Being a real.

[Chris]

They asked. They were like, is he promoting something? So I was trying to tee you up for that, but, you know, instead you took it as an affront.

[Ron]

Just promoting Tommy Yeah, dude. Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Why can't you just do that? Why can't you just hang out? Yeah.

[Chris]

I guess if you're open to that, then the question becomes, why don't you come see us more often?

[Tommy Pope]

True, true.

[Ron]

That is true. Is this your first time back in the city?

[Tommy Pope]

No.

[Ron]

Since the big departure.

[Chris]

No. We were. Your birthday. We hung out. We played pool for, like, five hours.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

We got very drunk.

[Tommy Pope]

Big fight with my girl. Because of you. She's. I was like, we're just gonna go play pool. She's like, don't get up.

[Chris]

We played double.

[Tommy Pope]

24 games.

[Ron]

Where did you guys get.

[Tommy Pope]

I played pool once every five years.

[Francis]

What is that place called?

[Chris]

Society. Billion.

[Ron]

Society.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. He's a member.

[Chris]

No. Yeah.

[Ron]

I think being a member there is, like, 70 grand.

[Chris]

There's no memberships there. Well, maybe there is, but I'm not a member.

[Tommy Pope]

Well, maybe that was. He said something like that when we walked in.

[Chris]

I said, we come all the time. And I think before 5pm that you don't. You get charged, like, half the table rate.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And then you and I were, like, going into Brooklyn together, and I was on the subway with you, and you were like, is this where the subway for you? And I was like, but close enough. I got off at your stop. I was miles from my home, and I know where I live. Like, I ended up walking and it was pouring rain.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You just didn't want to tell him.

[Chris]

I wanted to ride with him.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, start with that. That's a nice thing to say to somebody.

[Chris]

You asked me to come to the dinner for your birthday, and I was so fucked up. I couldn't.

[Tommy Pope]

I missed it. That's why we fought.

[Chris]

Oh, Lord. I didn't know you missed.

[Francis]

You missed your own birthday dinner.

[Tommy Pope]

Michelo. Modelo.

[Chris]

Michelo.

[Tommy Pope]

Same. It's Mexican. The beans love it. Can I say the N word?

[Francis]

Yes.

[Tommy Pope]

Is there trash can here?

[Ron]

All right, kick us off.

[Tommy Pope]

Yes.

[Ron]

We'll keep all that.

[Tommy Pope]

I don't care.

[Francis]

You said all the easy ones to say. You said all the safe ones to say.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, Beans Nips. Look, I just cheers myself. That was how you know it's a good day. Accidentally cheersing yourself on a mic Sound incredible.

[Ron]

I've never heard someone say beans, beans, beans.

[Tommy Pope]

What are you talking about?

[Ron]

As a slur.

[Francis]

You haven't?

[Ron]

No.

[Chris]

But you know that beaner. We've talked about beaner before.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

I've never heard just the singular version.

[Chris]

Of it, but beaner is also singular.

[Ron]

Bean.

[Tommy Pope]

Beans.

[Chris]

I know. I knew bean before. I Knew Beaner.

[Tommy Pope]

It's a pack of beans. They throw them on a mule.

[Francis]

They celebrate bean culture. It shouldn't even be a slur. That's a good.

[Tommy Pope]

That's why I say it out loud.

[Francis]

It's good for your heart.

[Ron]

All celebrate culture in a way. Filipino, black.

[Chris]

There was a movie that came out where Kevin Costner was like a cross country running coach of a school with all these Latino kids. Do you remember that?

[Tommy Pope]

Is that a porn?

[Francis]

I don't think I've seen that one. It sounds.

[Chris]

Does anyone know this movie I'm talking about?

[Francis]

And he's like, I have to.

[Chris]

These kids, one of those classic white coach kind of inspires ethnic minority team to McFarland USA. McFarland USA. I don't know why, but I.

[Francis]

A white savior type.

[Chris]

Yeah. I went to this movie and I still remember he had a line where he was looking for. Their team was terrible. Their cross country team. And he saw these Mexican kids, like, running through the neighborhood and he's like, I mean, they're on a strict diet of rice and beans. They got carbs for days.

[Francis]

They can run slur. I feel like that's like the. The way you put on weight. You have red beans and rice, you know, I feel like that's a nice, good diet. Is a good diet sustainable? You could keep going with beans all. It's like, cheap. It's sustainable, healthy.

[Ron]

You ever have, like, just the straight canned baked beans, the smoked smoky barbecue ones? Oh, yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

I've cracked a bush.

[Ron]

Incredible.

[Tommy Pope]

I've cracked a bush.

[Ron]

They're so good.

[Tommy Pope]

I haven't even been to divorce and I've cracked a bush. Can of beans.

[Francis]

I only eat black beans if I'm going from the can.

[Tommy Pope]

Chill, bro.

[Francis]

I'll throw. Throw some jalapenos in. The black beans.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Goes crazy.

[Ron]

That's crazy. It's so if you're going straight from the can, you got to go with the bush.

[Francis]

It's nice. I like a black bean, but they're like.

[Ron]

There's like maple syrup inside. It's delicious.

[Chris]

Yeah, it is too sweet for me.

[Ron]

It's very sweet.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, you do it upside down like.

[Ron]

A. Oh, we were going straight out of the can.

[Tommy Pope]

Wow.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Like a hobo. Yeah, exactly like you're riding the rail.

[Ron]

Well, I was camping when I did it, so that's cool. Understandable.

[Francis]

That's a cooler way to do it.

[Chris]

Want to bring us in?

[Ron]

Oh, yeah. Welcome back to the Son of a Boy dad podcast. I already did.

[Chris]

You did?

[Ron]

Yeah. We've been going cool. It is 2:23pm January 7th.

[Tommy Pope]

People drink at 2:23pm yeah, let's go. How would you bring, though?

[Ron]

Just. All right, well, two for you, one for Ron.

[Chris]

Where did you get those? Did you. Oh, we had them.

[Ron]

I think those have been here since like a company party. Like six. Remember there was the company party where they had a bartender.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

And that was all they had, was the black bee.

[Chris]

Yeah. Didn't they have little goats?

[Ron]

No, that was, I think the year after that.

[Francis]

They also had like a mentalist.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Remember that? There's like a.

[Tommy Pope]

Well, you have little goats running around. How about that?

[Chris]

They brought.

[Ron]

They brought animals like a company party and they got goats.

[Chris]

It was actually great. They were little baby goats.

[Tommy Pope]

Adorable.

[Chris]

It was really nice.

[Ron]

Do you think the baby goats are confused while they're just bouncing around from like corporate office to corporate office?

[Tommy Pope]

Like.

[Ron]

Yeah, I guess we're in another bright ass room.

[Chris]

No, I think they. I think what happens is they get back to the farm and mock all the animals that didn't make the cut.

[Ron]

Yeah, true.

[Chris]

Like, oh, I'm sorry, your. Your hair was too poop covered to.

[Tommy Pope]

Hang out at J.P. morgan to sell us energy.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

No, J.P. morgan's probably got a full floor of goats like severance.

[Tommy Pope]

Is that what you call Jews? Sorry.

[Francis]

No, you're allowed. We're allowed. Dave wanted us to. Dave wanted us to make sure we kept on saying the Jew jokes. Yeah, he said scared.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. That was the whole thing.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

He said, don't be afraid. Make sure you're making fun of the Jews still.

[Ron]

Yeah. Hammer at home, you got to hit on everybody.

[Francis]

It wouldn't be fair.

[Ron]

Exactly.

[Tommy Pope]

You could publicly say, wap. I'm. I'm swinging at everybody.

[Francis]

And he's half. He's got a little. He's got a sprinkle. So we're good.

[Ron]

Half Italian.

[Tommy Pope]

He does.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah, he's half. He's half dego.

[Tommy Pope]

Don't like to hear that.

[Ron]

He's the good half.

[Francis]

He's half guinea wash guineas.

[Tommy Pope]

Not going to board my. My background, huh?

[Francis]

Is that all of them? Is that the 4? Grease ball dago whopping guinea.

[Tommy Pope]

Gindaloon is inside baseball.

[Ron]

I'm gonna start using that.

[Tommy Pope]

You learn at a barber shop.

[Ron]

Like I haven't. I don't know most of the stuff.

[Chris]

I didn't know. Ripping off. I didn't know any of that.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, I got a bunch.

[Francis]

Man, that's the deep sea.

[Chris]

Well, that's. You've been around since before the.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, here we go.

[Chris]

The age Thing, huh? The civil rights era.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. How old do you think I am?

[Chris]

I don't know. But you voted for lbj. Although I say that. Did he run for re election or did he just supplant jfk? He ran for a sec. A second term. Right?

[Tommy Pope]

When I shave, I don't look as.

[Chris]

Old as I look. Can you look that up?

[Ron]

No. The beard definitely adds a couple years.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Yeah, but it looks good.

[Francis]

I. I'm gray and I can't. I just can't even grow a full beard so people can't tell. Like I just have facial hair. So it's like. You have the benefit of having good facial hair.

[Tommy Pope]

You guys are all baby faced. Especially this kid.

[Ron]

Well, I'm admitted. Yeah. I'm 24.

[Tommy Pope]

Exactly.

[Ron]

Are you true to age? Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

I'm almost double his life and I lived twice as long.

[Chris]

I'm telling you, it's incredible, dude.

[Tommy Pope]

No, you're right me.

[Chris]

Like that. The youthful energy from you is only matched by the ancient man.

[Tommy Pope]

He's an old soul.

[Chris]

He is an old soul and you are a young, angry old soul.

[Tommy Pope]

Bench in the sleep. That's his personality. You sleep on a bench.

[Ron]

You've got the same laugh as the. The dude in Home Alone.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Joe Pesci.

[Tommy Pope]

I was just gonna say dude at Home Alone.

[Ron]

I couldn't think of them.

[Tommy Pope]

What's going on here? Why don't we start over so I can say the N word for real?

[Ron]

It is Joe Pesci. Did you intro.

[Chris]

Did you intro him yet?

[Ron]

We've got Tommy Pope here as well.

[Tommy Pope]

Fat ass tits.

[Ron]

We got Tommy Pope here coming up from. Coming up from Austin.

[Chris]

How's Austin?

[Tommy Pope]

Austin's fine.

[Ron]

Yeah? You like it?

[Tommy Pope]

It's okay.

[Francis]

Didn't. What sent you as like an emissary to like quiet? Yeah, to quiet. The smooth things sent you up as like. Like a night to like quiet the New York versus Austin. Like Twitter wars or whatever.

[Chris]

You're that peace committee that was supposed to meet Lincoln but he refused to see because they were trying to get.

[Francis]

Of all people that anything.

[Tommy Pope]

It shouldn't be him. It's crazy.

[Ron]

Not even le was going crazy on Twitter.

[Tommy Pope]

You do what?

[Ron]

Why don't you get a couple? You got to get on that.

[Tommy Pope]

I don't care about any of that. Yeah, this is something you're going to realize when you're old.

[Ron]

I didn't get in any of it either.

[Tommy Pope]

Stay away from those type of. What is this for?

[Francis]

It's nice, right?

[Chris]

It's made of pure Gore Tex rub.

[Francis]

It into the mic. It's nice.

[Tommy Pope]

It is very nice.

[Ron]

This is a windbreaker.

[Tommy Pope]

Do some ass.

[Ron]

We have them up here in the big city.

[Tommy Pope]

All right, now I know how this is gonna go.

[Francis]

Yeah. What side everybody's on.

[Tommy Pope]

I'm old. I'm retarded.

[Chris]

Why did. Why did Lemaire do that?

[Tommy Pope]

I don't know.

[Chris]

Pissed off, huh?

[Ron]

He was pissed.

[Chris]

He's pissed because New York comics have been saying that the. If you hadn't followed this. There's a bit of a silly rivalry, I guess, between. I don't even know if I'd call it a rivalry. The New York comedy scene thinks it's superior to the Austin scene and vice versa.

[Tommy Pope]

I don't think it's vice versa. I think people are just angry.

[Ron]

Yeah. I think it's just every group of people, so.

[Tommy Pope]

It's so stupid. It's foolish. Who gives You.

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Austin's great for what it is. It's. It's great stage time. It's wonderful. Taxes, social life.

[Chris]

What is it?

[Tommy Pope]

What?

[Chris]

You said for what it is. What is it?

[Tommy Pope]

Well, I took six years off of stand up and I jumped back in there. And it's wonderful.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. It's a great environment. The mothership is the greatest place on Earth.

[Chris]

There's a cop. There's a coffee place in front of the bridge. If before you go into that place where all the shops are, it's a little windstream coffee shop type place.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And there's always a line and they make coffee. I've never had. Unlike anything I've ever had before. It's. It's a Mexican coffee. Do you know what I'm talking about?

[Tommy Pope]

No.

[Chris]

Do you drink coffee?

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You got to go.

[Ron]

Some martinis.

[Tommy Pope]

Is that it? You went to a coffee shop?

[Chris]

It's so well known that I was sure you'd be like, I love that place. Let's talk about it for a second. Instead, you're like, coffee. Okay. What?

[Francis]

And, yeah, I was hanging on, thought there's going to be a release.

[Chris]

They don't.

[Francis]

Work ethic.

[Chris]

Yeah. When. Well, the reason it's in a windstream is that when ice comes, they hook it to the truck and drive away.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

They skedaddle, so to speak. No, there. It's very different. I don't even know how to describe it, but it's unlike anything I've ever had. And I'm not going to talk about it anymore.

[Ron]

It sounds delicious.

[Chris]

Because it's not gaining any purchase in the conversation.

[Ron]

It sounds good.

[Tommy Pope]

It was great.

[Francis]

No, no.

[Ron]

And we'll be. We'll be sure to check it out.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

We're all gonna go.

[Tommy Pope]

Do you like soda? You don't like soda?

[Chris]

Well, I mean, I love soda, but I don't drink it ever.

[Tommy Pope]

One time I was in Jacksonville, you know Jacksonville, Florida. Yeah. Nice.

[Francis]

Poor city. Yeah, poor city.

[Tommy Pope]

Very bad city.

[Ron]

Dude, there's a.

[Tommy Pope]

There's a. A little bodega by a bridge. If you go in there. Best soda I had in my life.

[Francis]

Holy.

[Tommy Pope]

Really?

[Chris]

I see what you're doing.

[Ron]

What kind of soda?

[Tommy Pope]

You got to try, like homemade. I don't even know what it was.

[Chris]

I see what you're doing.

[Francis]

I don't even know.

[Tommy Pope]

I don't even know where it was.

[Chris]

And I.

[Tommy Pope]

But I was.

[Chris]

Why Only Austin is the place that would let you jump back on stage. I see. Straight into the big league. It's good to see you from a six year hiatus.

[Tommy Pope]

It's good to see you guys.

[Francis]

Where were you guys supposed to go for your big birthday dinner that Francis and you guys got too drunk for. Where was that going to be?

[Tommy Pope]

I don't know. Maybe ABC Cochina.

[Chris]

That sounds.

[Tommy Pope]

I think that's where we went.

[Francis]

They just put one in. Dumbo.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I think that's kind of a girl restaurant.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Francis]

I'm not. Am I calling you out?

[Tommy Pope]

No, no, no.

[Francis]

I've been nice to you then.

[Ron]

Of course, so far, I think all restaurants are girl restaurants.

[Tommy Pope]

I've never seen this product. Is this what they do?

[Chris]

It's not true.

[Ron]

We don't do that.

[Francis]

We don't do that.

[Chris]

We don't do.

[Tommy Pope]

I don't want. That's all I do.

[Chris]

I said.

[Tommy Pope]

I said your triceps. Everybody takes a turn. I said I want to drink one of your belts. Everybody ring a bell?

[Francis]

That was your restaurant.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I was trying to find middle ground with you. I was trying to find common ground.

[Tommy Pope]

You like pancakes? I love you ever been to Missouri?

[Ron]

Go on.

[Tommy Pope]

There's a bridge.

[Chris]

All right.

[Tommy Pope]

Missouri.

[Francis]

I'm listening.

[Chris]

Right.

[Tommy Pope]

Right by the bridge. I don't the hell the place was called. I don't even know if I had a pink. Like it might like nutmeg or something.

[Francis]

Coffee. One or.

[Chris]

Incredible.

[Tommy Pope]

Unbelievable. I've never had a pancake like that in my life.

[Francis]

Have to get to Missouri.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

How is.

[Ron]

How's your living situation in Austin? Better than New York.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, yeah.

[Ron]

Yes. You got a big pit.

[Tommy Pope]

You got a.

[Ron]

You got like a house.

[Tommy Pope]

I got a house.

[Ron]

Fuck yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. The first place was great. Three bedroom. Francis Was there.

[Chris]

It's awesome. Your house is fucking great.

[Tommy Pope]

We moved again. We moved closer to the city.

[Chris]

Close to the coffee place.

[Tommy Pope]

Better close.

[Francis]

100% closer.

[Chris]

Integrates that into your.

[Ron]

And that's the biggest thing I'm jealous about in Austin is.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Gardini's got a backyard.

[Tommy Pope]

I'll tell you what, man. It's just the piece. The piece is nice.

[Chris]

The piece. I got it. Yeah. Des Nudo.

[Tommy Pope]

You found it.

[Chris]

You know that place?

[Tommy Pope]

No date at one like that. Up top, babe.

[Ron]

That's Noodle.

[Chris]

Come on.

[Francis]

I just know you have a well decorated home. I know you have like. I do knickknacks and like, probably some kind of zen plants all around and like that.

[Chris]

You got plants?

[Tommy Pope]

Say less. I got a ton of plants.

[Ron]

Hell yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah. What's your biggest?

[Tommy Pope]

Palms. Palm.

[Ron]

You got palm trees?

[Tommy Pope]

I got palms. Big cascading.

[Francis]

The bird of paradise.

[Tommy Pope]

Maybe six, four.

[Ron]

Just in the living room.

[Tommy Pope]

Maybe six, four. Width is like three, eight.

[Ron]

Oh, that's nice. Big house.

[Tommy Pope]

Gorgeous.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Hardwood everywhere. Hardwood on the walls. I'm not really. Yeah.

[Ron]

How you feeling about your sweet birds?

[Tommy Pope]

I'm excited, man.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

I'm nervous as fuck.

[Ron]

I would be.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

They're weak.

[Tommy Pope]

Pattullo is dog shit.

[Ron]

They got a. They got a tough run coming up.

[Tommy Pope]

Of course.

[Ron]

49Ers. I mean, I'd be worried.

[Tommy Pope]

Well, they're. They're injured like Roc.

[Chris]

That's what I said. Yeah. Brock Purdy's gimpy.

[Tommy Pope]

They're all fucked up. Doesn't matter. But still.

[Ron]

System qb.

[Tommy Pope]

Our play calling is garbage. Atrocious for how good our team is.

[Francis]

He tries to troll about the Eagles, so don't listen to him if he's being negative.

[Ron]

And I try. I like to troll on the. About the Eagles, but it's only fun when they're good.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

So it's like. It was fun.

[Tommy Pope]

This will be a what if here. If we don't do this will be.

[Francis]

A what if because the roster's so good, you're gonna have to pay the dudes on defects.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, yeah.

[Francis]

The defense is sick. Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

I mean, Jalen Carter might be a patriot. You guys can't afford him.

[Tommy Pope]

There it is. Ring the bell. So now we all have some dumb. You say to me, huh?

[Ron]

No, I'm an Eagle.

[Tommy Pope]

Carter is going to die in Eagles. Probably.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Ron]

They'll hold on to Jalen Carter more likely than they'll hold on to A.J. brown or.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Saquon.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. That dude sleeps in a cage. Jalen hurts, we throw that man is a savage. Protective at all costs.

[Francis]

Yeah. Oh, for sure. You and I texted on the day they drafted Quinya Mitchell, and I think that if we read back those texts, it would be like a glowing. Like, we hit the nail on the head with him. We're like, we're excited about him, but he's like, country. Country fella.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Drinks from the host.

[Chris]

That's what you want.

[Francis]

Yeah, exactly.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Like, he's like.

[Tommy Pope]

You want to squint when they talk. Trying to focus. I want my best players. Yeah. Where I have to, like, crunch up.

[Ron]

That's what I thought. I thought, like, I was saying all off season that we need a wide receiver for the Patriots. It's going to cause, like, a lot of issues for the team.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Because they're the best players.

[Tommy Pope]

100.

[Ron]

But now we got Stefan Diggs, and now it's like, might go to jail, dude.

[Tommy Pope]

His biggest problem is that that boy is ripping bbls.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

You see his chef just opening up buns?

[Ron]

Did you see his chef? His chef, the one that he, like, got in the altercation with supposedly. Allegedly.

[Tommy Pope]

She hot.

[Ron]

She's like a supermodel.

[Tommy Pope]

Of course. What's this microwaving?

[Francis]

We got Lean Cuisine again. Stephanie, you ready, baby? You hungry?

[Chris]

Literally, his.

[Ron]

His private chef has a bbl.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. It's crazy rules.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Good for him.

[Ron]

Well, if he stays out of jail.

[Francis]

Yeah, but what did he do to her?

[Tommy Pope]

He.

[Francis]

Did he touch her or did he just not pay her?

[Tommy Pope]

He probably sneezed.

[Ron]

He did. I think he did both of those things.

[Francis]

Didn't pay and touched her touch.

[Ron]

You can't touch and not pay. Two big no no's.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You had to pay.

[Tommy Pope]

Contractual obligations.

[Ron]

Exactly. But, I mean, you guys have your own problems.

[Tommy Pope]

You have some dark chocolate?

[Chris]

Well, yeah. We were talking yesterday. If we don't eat it, it'll get sour.

[Tommy Pope]

Is this a sponsor?

[Ron]

It's not. No, it's straight from New Zealand. He brought it.

[Francis]

He just got back.

[Ron]

72. Cocoa.

[Francis]

Yeah, let him get some.

[Chris]

It's healthy.

[Tommy Pope]

You like chocolate?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

You ever been to San Francisco?

[Chris]

Teas in San Francisco.

[Ron]

What's that?

[Chris]

One of the best chocolatiers the in the country.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, my God, you're so. You're so white.

[Chris]

Dude. It's crazy. Willy Wonka. Every year in my stocking, the burnt chocolate almonds.

[Tommy Pope]

You see, there's no milk in this. It's going to take forever for it to.

[Chris]

That's what I told Harry. Oh, sour. I said.

[Ron]

Yeah, that was.

[Chris]

He said it was going sour.

[Francis]

What's this?

[Tommy Pope]

85 cacao.

[Chris]

That's.

[Ron]

That's 72. I believe mine is 65, which is why I was a little more worried about it souring.

[Francis]

It is a vicious aphrodisiac, though. You're going to be chubbed up. Yeah.

[Ron]

I won't lie. I took down half that bar last night.

[Tommy Pope]

Stole the fun.

[Ron]

Yeah, it got out of control fast.

[Chris]

Wow.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Francis]

That's insane.

[Chris]

It did not.

[Francis]

That's too much dark chocolate to have.

[Ron]

No.

[Francis]

Half a bar of dark chocolate was.

[Ron]

Coming out jet black.

[Tommy Pope]

I ate the chocolate.

[Ron]

Sharpie.

[Francis]

If it's dark enough, it is blood.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, dude.

[Ron]

No, it wasn't dark. It wasn't that dark.

[Francis]

How do you know?

[Ron]

I keep an eye on things.

[Tommy Pope]

It's bitter sand and I like it. I do like it.

[Francis]

But it tastes bad. I like it.

[Tommy Pope]

No, there's no meltability. It just smacks you a little bit.

[Chris]

And you gotta keep.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, look at him. It's like he's chewing bubblegum. Guys eating chocolate. Who eats chocolate like this?

[Francis]

It's like when you have the six Triscuits at once challenge, it's just gonna get harder and harder to talk in your mouth.

[Ron]

Triscuits might be my top snack of 20, 26.

[Tommy Pope]

Unbelievable.

[Ron]

I love Tristan.

[Francis]

The flavored ones and fucking cream cheese.

[Ron]

The seasoned ones.

[Tommy Pope]

Suck my dick, dude. Yeah, I'm going night night.

[Ron]

Tomato basil ones.

[Tommy Pope]

No, I stick with plain.

[Ron]

Oh, no, you got to try the season.

[Tommy Pope]

I've tried them. They're Rosemary's. Nice.

[Francis]

Rosemary is nice. That's very nice. So I think the jalapeno accent. Yes, I agree. The cheese. Slice of cheese with it is nice.

[Tommy Pope]

It's just a sharp cheddar. That's just a piece of, you know. What's the word I'm looking for?

[Chris]

Hint.

[Tommy Pope]

It's the no essence.

[Francis]

It's like the accoutrement.

[Tommy Pope]

No, it's just the. The. The. I said utensil. It's the.

[Chris]

The vessel.

[Francis]

Yeah, the vessel. It's a vessel.

[Tommy Pope]

Keep that plain. Everything else on top of it is a star.

[Francis]

This is a food guy. This is a guy who could talk about food.

[Tommy Pope]

I could talk about food.

[Chris]

You're a big time chef.

[Tommy Pope]

That's not true.

[Chris]

You're very good chef.

[Tommy Pope]

I'm a cook.

[Chris]

You're not going to say chef.

[Tommy Pope]

No.

[Chris]

Because you have to be proud to be a chef. Is that. She's a differentiation.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Chris]

It's like if you are in a cook kitchen and you make money, that makes you.

[Tommy Pope]

It's like a fat titty Tiktoker saying she's a comedian. You haven't been through the trenches.

[Ron]

What if you moved to a city.

[Tommy Pope]

You hate.

[Francis]

But people act like it's a porn. Where you get. Where you jump right to star. You do one and you're a porn star. But you don't just become a chef. Which chef? Donnie.

[Ron]

No, Chef Donnie's definitely a chef.

[Chris]

He's worked in. He staged. He's staged.

[Ron]

What does that mean, staged?

[Chris]

Stage is in fancy restaurants when you go do a free internship for like six months to learn certain techniques.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, super impressive.

[Ron]

He did it in France.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I have a weird. Speaking of porn, I have a weird question and I don't know who this will apply to, but I was thinking about this.

[Francis]

My guess is Tommy.

[Tommy Pope]

My guess is insult. Ring the fucking bell already.

[Chris]

It's a. It's a thought I've had before and I've maybe even pitched it before. But if you had a daughter, right, and you're a grown up dad and you know, you find out that she's going into porn and she becomes. She goes into porn.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Would you want her to be great, the greatest. Or like unbelievable at it or like so bad that it's just like.

[Francis]

That it doesn't get to a lot of people?

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Ron]

No, yeah, definitely the worst, I would say.

[Tommy Pope]

Great. No, because if she's bad at it, that means she's. She's trying anything to be good at.

[Chris]

It's like you've broken.

[Tommy Pope]

She'll be bad at everything she tries.

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah, you broke it.

[Tommy Pope]

Regular porn, she'll just jump into some other facet of porn.

[Ron]

Yeah. What about my ass?

[Tommy Pope]

I don't have to jump around. I don't be athletic. Yeah. Just take that big 1212 inch.

[Francis]

Yes, yes.

[Tommy Pope]

Dark chocolate 82 and rail my ass.

[Ron]

And then she'll get some weirder and.

[Tommy Pope]

Then she's in the dark web.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

You don't want that. You want them to be the worst.

[Tommy Pope]

Good. Stay. Stay. Great. Stay. Great.

[Chris]

Great.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You want someone who's great.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. I want to be like Jalen Carter. She's gonna be. She's gonna be wild. Sleep in a cage, eats raw meat.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Jalen Carter's had some issues of his own though.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Murder being the biggest one.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, yeah.

[Francis]

Stop. True. You're just trolling. You're trying to get under our skin. Dude. You're just. You're.

[Ron]

That's fact.

[Francis]

You're trying to be nasty about the.

[Tommy Pope]

Eagles just in a car. It's gotta be like you know, there's levels.

[Chris]

He hit someone with his car and they died?

[Ron]

No, he hit. Well, yes.

[Francis]

No, he was.

[Ron]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Francis]

That car. Another car crashed.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, he was being boys.

[Chris]

And the other car killed other people. Just himself.

[Tommy Pope]

His car?

[Francis]

No, the two. The people. The people in the car.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Except for Jalen.

[Chris]

Oh, yeah. Wait, he was in the car that crashed and he didn't get hurt?

[Francis]

No, no, he was in a different car.

[Chris]

So he won.

[Ron]

He was racing and some other dumbass wasn't paying attention.

[Tommy Pope]

Right to him racing.

[Ron]

Clearly. Yeah, clearly. I'm racing right now.

[Tommy Pope]

Filled with donuts. Didn't check her side.

[Ron]

Clearly. I'm blowing this red light, jc.

[Tommy Pope]

Still killing it.

[Ron]

Yeah, exactly. It's probably gonna get signed to like an 80 million dollar contract.

[Francis]

More than that. It's definitely gonna be more than that.

[Ron]

Yeah, if you guys can afford it, of course.

[Francis]

No, it's gonna be like. It's gonna be like four years. 160.

[Tommy Pope]

Are you gonna break a record?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Is he that good though?

[Tommy Pope]

He is that good.

[Ron]

He's pretty good.

[Tommy Pope]

When he's not there, everything's different.

[Ron]

Yeah, it's very noticeable.

[Tommy Pope]

He's double triple teamed. Every play he changes defenses.

[Francis]

And then he got shoulder surgery on both his shoulders. He said he was playing and he couldn't do a push up, so he was just playing and like he couldn't just push the guys off him. So he's just like.

[Tommy Pope]

He's a nightmare.

[Francis]

And he was still effective without arms. And now with arms. Yeah, he's a terror.

[Tommy Pope]

He's the guy I would show to a kid if my son was acting out. I'd be like, this dude. You go to prison, this dude.

[Ron]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Whenever he wants. This is the kind of guys you're going to be sleeping next to.

[Francis]

He's spinning.

[Tommy Pope]

That breaks his shoulders still place.

[Francis]

Yeah, it doesn't care.

[Tommy Pope]

You think his dick sleeps? It does.

[Chris]

Would you rather line up across from him or like Max Crosby?

[Ron]

Oh, him for sure.

[Chris]

Really?

[Tommy Pope]

No.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

No.

[Ron]

Max Crosby is 8.

[Tommy Pope]

I'm not scared of wiggers. I'm not scared of wiggers. I grew up with them.

[Ron]

Max Crosby is. Is that fine black? Yeah.

[Francis]

That's good. That's good. Matt. No, I'm, I'm. I'd rather go against Max Crosby as well.

[Ron]

So that's biased.

[Tommy Pope]

Okay.

[Ron]

That's you guys being biased.

[Francis]

No, no, Miles. I know Miles Garrett. I. I'd rather go against Mac Crosby.

[Ron]

I mean, that's not even.

[Tommy Pope]

Jalen Carter is the best defensive player in the league.

[Ron]

No, not even Top five.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, no, no. You're talking stats, right?

[Ron]

Yes.

[Tommy Pope]

You're gonna do what? Sacks and all that?

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

This guy is a detriment to every human being when he steps on the field.

[Ron]

He's good. Jalen Carter is very good Monster, but Max Crosby, Miles Garrett, Micah Parsons.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. Miles Garrett. I get that soft though. Jalen Carter, different, different type of dude. That guy fucking means it. He is actually angry all the time.

[Ron]

Yeah, I would agree with that.

[Chris]

Would you rather face him on the field or like a long stretch of.

[Francis]

Straight road a quarter mile at a time?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

That'S a great question.

[Chris]

You think.

[Ron]

Do you think Jalen Carter is more passionate about football or his racing? Like, do you think he has like a racing simulator at home?

[Tommy Pope]

What does this mean?

[Francis]

He's playing Gran Turismo. I think he's just trying to slight. He's trying to slide. Our are are stuck just cuz he had a fun time driving.

[Ron]

He's a racer.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh yeah. 23 y olds, 24 y talking video games. 24 talking video games.

[Francis]

My, my, my parents used to ask me that question all the time about like, or not even ask me a question. They just be like, whatever you do, be great at it. Like no matter what it is, be great at it. Yeah, but they're kind of where your mind would go.

[Ron]

Yeah, there's that conversation he did.

[Tommy Pope]

He gave me that talk. He's like, no matter what you decide, I know you're going to be great. Like to do more.

[Francis]

I look back on him like you.

[Tommy Pope]

Could, you know, that's such a easy out.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Being a good dad going. I trust that no matter what you choose, you're going to be great.

[Francis]

Yeah. That's his way to dad, be an actor.

[Tommy Pope]

Hunting pussy. Get your fucking shoes on. Throw me a football. You want to do something, Force me.

[Francis]

Into piano lessons or something like that.

[Tommy Pope]

I'd rather that if you got nuts.

[Ron]

About one thing now, piano was taking. Did you guys ever have to take like music lessons?

[Tommy Pope]

No. Like I said.

[Ron]

Of course by force.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

It's the worst thing imaginable.

[Chris]

I had to take piano for, I don't know, 10 years or something, but.

[Francis]

It took with you.

[Chris]

Well, hold on, here's what happened.

[Tommy Pope]

This outfit, the stance, of course it took.

[Chris]

No, it can take. The piano took me. I was always born to be at a piano, you know, finally sat right. But I would say that I didn't like it for a long time. And then I said, I don't want to do this anymore. And my parents, my mom Specifically said, well, you can give that up, but you have to learn another instrument. Then I started playing the guitar, and I learned that, and then I came back to the piano on my own.

[Ron]

Did you have to do classes for guitar?

[Chris]

Did you do that? Yeah, I was taking jazz lessons. Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

You like gelada?

[Chris]

I don't care.

[Tommy Pope]

Do you like gelato?

[Chris]

It doesn't have to be from.

[Tommy Pope]

You ever been to Minnesota?

[Chris]

I like. I like ice cream, and I don't want this goddamn Italian bullshit. You know, you guys still act like you're this fuck disenfranchised group that came over on and to Ellis island and got your gums checked and had to go in the, you know, the wrong line. Italians are fine. You guys are fine.

[Tommy Pope]

Nobody said we weren't.

[Chris]

You guys do.

[Ron]

What's your favorite thing? Like, what's your favorite Italian food? You got to pick one, and then you lose everything else. Cheese is included.

[Tommy Pope]

I gotta go. The hackiest thing. Meatball.

[Ron]

Meatball, yeah. Not gabagoo.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, well done.

[Francis]

There it is.

[Tommy Pope]

Can we get a counter?

[Ron]

I thought you were gonna say gabagoo.

[Francis]

Like a baby.

[Tommy Pope]

It's like a baby with a lisp.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Got a fat tongue. Now you posted. So I said, do you think black guys are afraid of you? Remember when I texted you this?

[Chris]

Yes, I did, and I didn't understand it. You were so confused, like, I'm not Max Crosby.

[Tommy Pope]

No. Are Superman of whites.

[Chris]

You know, white. White people tell me that. Yeah, because you guys don't want. We. You guys don't want to feel. You want to feel less white.

[Tommy Pope]

That's not true.

[Chris]

I think so.

[Ron]

Tommy's not white, but I think the Italians aren't white.

[Chris]

Horseshit.

[Tommy Pope]

Irish are bog bog mutants. They're bedbugs in the swamp.

[Francis]

We were here long before you were.

[Tommy Pope]

No, I'm half of it.

[Chris]

We were here long.

[Tommy Pope]

I got half of your infant perfection. I don't want it.

[Ron]

Are you Irish?

[Chris]

English.

[Francis]

English, of course.

[Ron]

What's your breakdown?

[Chris]

I don't know when I plugged in for that. It just sent back a picture of the Mayflower.

[Ron]

Oh, wow.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Purebred.

[Chris]

I actually think we were. Yeah. Were you? I'm. It's probably close. Really? I am what people accuse me of being. I kind of found that out recently.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. Dude.

[Chris]

I was like, when did we come here? And they were like.

[Francis]

Like, we're American.

[Chris]

We don't know.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. When I see your face, I start goose stepping.

[Chris]

When. When did the country start then?

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You're pre country. Honestly, you might be Pre country. You might have been here first.

[Tommy Pope]

You are a chiseled Greek God. I will say that. You swing a golf club.

[Chris]

Oh, yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You've gotten into golf?

[Tommy Pope]

I've some started You. Yeah.

[Ron]

What are you doing?

[Tommy Pope]

Trying to hit the ball. Yeah.

[Ron]

You playing or are you going to.

[Tommy Pope]

The range or what again? Yeah.

[Ron]

Range, nice ranges.

[Tommy Pope]

I gave up my mat. I bought a real nice mat and a net. I gave it to Chris.

[Ron]

Oh, really?

[Tommy Pope]

I moved? Yeah.

[Ron]

Why? Why'd you give it up?

[Tommy Pope]

He's got like a simulator. He bought that little box.

[Ron]

Oh, really?

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. Tracks.

[Ron]

That's sick. So you guys are all getting into it?

[Tommy Pope]

We're trying.

[Chris]

That's that Patreon money.

[Ron]

We should all play.

[Tommy Pope]

It's okay.

[Chris]

It's good.

[Tommy Pope]

It's fine.

[Chris]

What do you mean? You guys crush it.

[Tommy Pope]

It's fine.

[Francis]

Let him be humble.

[Tommy Pope]

No, it's. It's really just fine.

[Chris]

You're only saying that because you know people in your orbit who. Who have Patreon money. That's outrageous. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

It's like on.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Billionaires. Why you're trying to set up a stuff island. Son of a boy. Dad. Golf game.

[Ron]

Thinking about it. Thinking about it.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. Have you been golfing?

[Ron]

I mean, I'm always ready. I played in high school.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah?

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Nice.

[Chris]

He's got a good swing. Yeah, I bet he's got a sock. Really good swing.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, but don't worry about that. You got a good swing. Yeah.

[Ron]

That's all that matters.

[Chris]

And I mean this sincerely. The only thing that you just need to be told what club to hit.

[Ron]

Exactly.

[Chris]

And if you and I are playing together, I guarantee you I can shave 10 strokes off of just from being like. Don't hit that. Hit this. Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Ten strokes.

[Chris]

Yeah. Swear. Swear to God.

[Francis]

Strokes.

[Chris]

Dude. If you were in the. In the. What was it called?

[Ron]

The Ryder Cup.

[Chris]

The Ryder Cup. If we'd been on the same team and we had played together, we would have beaten teams that he and Jandal lost to. You play with Jando, right?

[Ron]

For one match.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Then I played with Big Cat.

[Chris]

Yeah. We.

[Tommy Pope]

Who did I beat? Scramble.

[Chris]

Frankie and I beat.

[Tommy Pope]

I'll get 30 on scramble. Take me off the box.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

3:30 right down the dick.

[Ron]

Really? You gotta drive.

[Francis]

Because he's strong. Look how strong he is.

[Ron]

I can see him poking out the shirt.

[Francis]

Hey, touch it.

[Tommy Pope]

The tricep.

[Chris]

Tommy's got that old man and, you know, muscle.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You want to fight it like a plumber.

[Ron]

You taking tea?

[Chris]

Huh?

[Tommy Pope]

Are you on it? Huh? The what?

[Ron]

Yeah. You're on it. That was the response of someone who's on it.

[Tommy Pope]

Test me right now. 20 grand.

[Francis]

Test.

[Tommy Pope]

I'll bet you 20 grand.

[Ron]

Oh, yeah, you did. You completed the cycle.

[Tommy Pope]

Sit here and wait.

[Ron]

You've already completed.

[Chris]

That's that Patreon money.

[Tommy Pope]

Spend 40 in tests, get half back.

[Francis]

He's been like this. He's been built like this.

[Ron]

Yeah, you've been. You've been strong.

[Tommy Pope]

I've been the same. Same weight for 25, 30 years.

[Ron]

You working out? No, that's not. That's over.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You don't look like that. You don't.

[Ron]

I didn't know if that was natural.

[Tommy Pope]

46. To get to his point. I'm 40. I turned 46 last month.

[Ron]

That's not that old.

[Chris]

That's crazy. That is so old. 46, are you kidding me? 46? Do you know who? Who do you know?

[Ron]

El Prez?

[Chris]

Yeah, that's our boss. He's got nine houses.

[Tommy Pope]

I run a company. I run a. I have an llc.

[Chris]

C. Tommy's our. Tommy's our peer.

[Ron]

Wait, wait, wait. Here's a good question. Who's the CEO? You were. You were Chris.

[Tommy Pope]

Of what?

[Ron]

Of Stuff Island LLC.

[Tommy Pope]

You're the CEO. 100%.

[Ron]

That's nice. Yeah, that's nice.

[Tommy Pope]

It's like wrangling.

[Francis]

Get him a fresh.

[Tommy Pope]

Give him a fresh one.

[Francis]

Get him a fresh one.

[Tommy Pope]

Now we got one. I gotta. I gotta ring a dinner bell to get his attention.

[Chris]

Did you see how Tommy just had an empty beer and he didn't even say, would you mind taking this? He just. He just held it out.

[Tommy Pope]

That's age.

[Chris]

That is respect. Exactly.

[Tommy Pope]

It's age of respect.

[Chris]

You come from an era when at rest restaurants, you didn't even. You just. You just treated the waiters like they were Garcia.

[Francis]

Hey, boy.

[Chris]

Yeah. You didn't even signal them. You just drop on the floor or like a whistle. My dinner's done. Here's my plate. Shatter.

[Francis]

First class.

[Tommy Pope]

First class. Give them 20 bucks just for the first drink. Doesn't matter. That's it.

[Ron]

You're paying for drinks.

[Tommy Pope]

Just. It's out of respect.

[Ron]

Oh, you're tipping.

[Chris]

You're tipping during the meal?

[Tommy Pope]

Yes.

[Chris]

Are you kidding?

[Ron]

No.

[Francis]

That's how tip started. It used to. Because it's 2. Ensure promptness is what it stands for. So it's like tip. You would tip before the meal to make sure they're like. And keep them coming?

[Chris]

Yep. Oh, my. Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

If you get the Delta plus, if you're not in first class, 20 bucks will change your flight experience.

[Ron]

I think if I is locked in.

[Chris]

You don't want to get into this.

[Ron]

I think if I was on a Delta flight and I tipped the flight attendant, they would remove me from the plane. They would be like, why?

[Francis]

I can't do why?

[Chris]

But I have heard that though, that you tip a flight attendant and they will treat you better.

[Ron]

I'm sure. I didn't even know that was, like, allowed. I thought that'd be one of those things to be like, we can't accept this.

[Tommy Pope]

It's not. You palm it like a. Oh, I see. You're trying to.

[Chris]

You reach inside her coat and just place it in her bra for herself so that she doesn't have to.

[Francis]

There's guys who do their. Their content online is them getting onto a flight with five chocolate bars that have hundred dollar bills sticking out of them. And they're like, this is for the. The flight crew and the pilots.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And they'll come through. And they're like, oh my God. Like, no. Like, this made my year. Like, no one's ever done anything like this.

[Ron]

They.

[Francis]

They obviously love to get some chocolate and the money that comes with it.

[Tommy Pope]

Ron, do you like chocolate?

[Francis]

I'm not really a chocolate guy.

[Tommy Pope]

Have you been to Chicago?

[Chris]

Is that true?

[Francis]

No, I do.

[Chris]

That's why that's stayed here. And he brought his home and ate it.

[Francis]

No, no, I. I knew that it would stay and I knew that we were coming back in today. I love chocolate.

[Ron]

He's getting the chocolate.

[Chris]

You didn't eat all yours?

[Tommy Pope]

No.

[Chris]

Too dark.

[Tommy Pope]

It's too chalky.

[Ron]

It's like, I feel like if you.

[Chris]

Like, dropped it, you don't have to eat it just on my account.

[Francis]

I would just.

[Tommy Pope]

Why do you look so good? What did you do today?

[Chris]

I won that tournament and I started spending all the money.

[Francis]

He won a third of a million dollars playing golf.

[Tommy Pope]

The golf tournament?

[Francis]

Yeah, playing golf. The Internet invitation later.

[Ron]

You next year.

[Tommy Pope]

That's great. You just say you just dress up like this every day?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

What's today? Wednesday.

[Francis]

Every day.

[Tommy Pope]

It's every day do this?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Wow.

[Tommy Pope]

What are you hiding, pal?

[Chris]

I mean, just like half the cash I won. That's all I got left. No, I'm kidding. That's not true.

[Tommy Pope]

Good for you.

[Chris]

I got 220 grand after tax. Taxes.

[Tommy Pope]

That's great.

[Chris]

I spent 20 of it so far.

[Tommy Pope]

Wait, was it a million split three ways and you got 220 after taxes?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

That doesn't make sense.

[Chris]

Would have been like two.

[Francis]

You think he'd be in a higher bracket, right?

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You think he'd be in a. You think they would be like 175, right?

[Tommy Pope]

That's a lot. That seems like a lot.

[Chris]

That I was taxed or that I was paid?

[Tommy Pope]

That you're paid 220.

[Chris]

Taxes would be 60%. It's like 65. Well, also, for what it's worth, I had already maxed out my 401k for the year, so I didn't lose anything to retirement.

[Ron]

Damn.

[Tommy Pope]

Do you talk to him every day like this? This is who I am.

[Chris]

This is why you said that black people are afraid of me.

[Tommy Pope]

That's why I like seeing you once, once a year. It's such a treat. You're like an ice bath of Caucasian.

[Francis]

Did you guys hang out when you were shooting tires a lot?

[Tommy Pope]

What?

[Chris]

We had one day where we had a scene together.

[Tommy Pope]

One small day.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Really?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Are you guys working on season three?

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, shoot.

[Ron]

Monday.

[Tommy Pope]

That's why. That's why I'm here. Oh, yeah.

[Ron]

I feel like that you could have said that. It's a big one.

[Tommy Pope]

I've been doing well.

[Francis]

No, I believe he's doing well.

[Tommy Pope]

Why can't I just joke?

[Francis]

Yeah, he's joking on the joke show.

[Tommy Pope]

You guys want to hear my schedule?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Open my phone. Get my phone. Open my calendar. Come on, get out of there. Open a phone.

[Francis]

I don't need to see your Google Calendar.

[Tommy Pope]

Open my water.

[Ron]

Start pissing tires.

[Tommy Pope]

Slow absorption.

[Francis]

Is there, like, table reads? Are you guys around? Like, are you doing, like, a thing like in every other TV show where everybody sits and there are table reads?

[Ron]

But not for us.

[Francis]

No.

[Chris]

No.

[Tommy Pope]

Not for tertiary.

[Francis]

You know how when, like, they do, like, Lord of the Ring or whatever, the. What was the show? House of the Dragon and like that, and everybody's there and they discover all at the same time what's going to happen that season. And they're, like, crying. They can't believe their character got killed off. That doesn't happen for you guys?

[Chris]

I think that's main characters.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Main characters do that stuff just to get in the flow, find some new story lines. But when our. Our stuff's already set yet. And then we'll just do improv after we get the lines in.

[Francis]

Yeah. I feel like you guys are pretty main characters, though, for that show.

[Ron]

Imagine being on Game of thrones for, like, 10 years straight.

[Tommy Pope]

Hear that? We're all main characters.

[Ron]

Imagine being on Game of Thrones for, like, a decade and then you find out at the table read that Your character is getting killed off. I'd be like, what the. Yeah, shoot me an email next time.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Why do we have to do this in front of the entire cast and crew?

[Chris]

Just start texting your agent. Don't cancel that other thing we passed on. Yeah. Tell them we're. We're considering it.

[Tommy Pope]

I'm in the born.

[Francis]

We had to fly to New Zealand to read about getting killed off.

[Tommy Pope]

So the sleep things is real. The New Zealand.

[Chris]

Yeah. But I did well last night. Oh, yeah. I held on for dear life.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

It was truly. I've never experienced something like this for my body where. I'm not kidding you, I was falling asleep standing up. Yeah. I was like, you know.

[Ron]

What time did you go to bed?

[Chris]

I got. I made it till 10pm not bad. And then I slept until 3, and then I read for an hour and a half and then I slept from 4:30 to 8:30. So I'm really thrilled.

[Ron]

That's not bad.

[Chris]

That's pretty darn good.

[Ron]

Yeah. When you woke up at three, were you like.

[Chris]

I've gotten five hours of. Through. Through a time that I had not been able to sleep. So I was like, all right, if this is as good as it gets, it's a huge step in the right direction. But I was still really tired.

[Ron]

What was the cocktail last night?

[Chris]

I just smoked some weed.

[Ron]

Interesting.

[Tommy Pope]

You're exciting.

[Chris]

Well, I hadn't even really done that. I mean, I. I. A little bit, but I. I had done that with other things and I was just like, I don't want to keep. If I get to a point where I have to rely on Ativan or whatever. Any of these things. Yeah. I'm gonna come out of this reliant on it for sleeping, and I don't want to do that.

[Ron]

So I'm the opp. I'm like, if I do something once and it works to sleep, I do that now. That's how I sleep.

[Chris]

Pharmaceutical forever.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Scare me, dude.

[Tommy Pope]

What's your. What's your, like, beat off skin schedule?

[Ron]

Yeah. Were you cranking?

[Tommy Pope]

Do you wake up at 3:00am Go, I'm gonna.

[Chris]

No. Fap.

[Tommy Pope]

A pan?

[Chris]

No, I was. I didn't want to get my heart rate up.

[Ron]

Your heart rate up?

[Chris]

I was trying to.

[Ron]

Your hand.

[Chris]

Do you just crank so slowly that you keep a measured heartbeat, though?

[Ron]

My heart rate caps out at like.

[Tommy Pope]

I don't think I ever think about my heart rate when I just want to punch you don't. You don't punch one.

[Ron]

I'm not ending. I'm not ending.

[Chris]

Like, I didn't want to wake up more.

[Ron]

Yeah, it makes sense. That makes sense.

[Chris]

Dude, you.

[Tommy Pope]

You're sending dead kids all over your belly. That makes you tired. You worrying about your heart rate is insane.

[Chris]

I don't know if I agree. I think that if you knew why I had struggled so much over the last five days, like. Like, at this point, I had to pretend that I was to myself, that I was going to get back to sleep.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And being like, let's have sex with ourselves is not that.

[Francis]

But I think sometimes fantasizing can lead your body to a dream state faster. If you're, like, fantasizing, you know, maybe even you just go, no touch.

[Chris]

Honestly.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Chris]

All I was fantasizing.

[Tommy Pope]

Fantasizing is.

[Chris]

Fantasy sleep sleep. That was my fantasy sleep deprivation. Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

That's nuts.

[Chris]

I. I was. I was. I was. I started watching Godfather 2 because you said you watched.

[Francis]

Yeah, I've watched one about five times over the break.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I couldn't stop watching it.

[Chris]

I started watching 2 again. I've only seen it like once or twice and such a treat. Oh, my God, what an unbelievable movie. It is unbelievable.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

How good that movie is. Yeah.

[Francis]

How they weave between. I don't. Well, I actually, I. I like the. The throwback storyline more than the Cuba story.

[Chris]

Yes. Yeah.

[Francis]

Him like, creeping over the rooftops.

[Tommy Pope]

We're talking about stalking.

[Chris]

Stalking. That. That bad. Don across the rooftops.

[Francis]

Don Panucci.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

As good as it gets.

[Ron]

I haven't seen the second one in forever.

[Chris]

You should re. Watch it.

[Tommy Pope]

Remember it.

[Chris]

It will, like, force you to just. You zero in, like that scene and get out when he gets.

[Tommy Pope]

Sentences aren't conducive to potting.

[Ron]

What do you mean?

[Tommy Pope]

They're too comfortable.

[Ron]

You're getting too sleepy.

[Tommy Pope]

Everybody's. Yeah, that's why he's sitting up like this.

[Chris]

That's why I sit up.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. I'll engage.

[Ron]

I wish I could do it.

[Tommy Pope]

You know your discourse.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

I wish I could. I wish I could be fully.

[Tommy Pope]

I want to talk about movies. This is a movie stand chance.

[Francis]

This, like, movie watch.

[Tommy Pope]

Last time we saw Godfather too. You like movies? You like movies? Like movies.

[Chris]

There's a theater.

[Tommy Pope]

You ever been to Seattle? Yeah, there's a theater underneath the bridge.

[Chris]

Seattle.

[Tommy Pope]

I swear to God, I don't know what was called. It was the best movie I've ever seen. You got to find it. What a. You came at me first.

[Chris]

Yeah, well, I was talking about coffee and.

[Francis]

You came at him with that.

[Chris]

Did I?

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

You came in you came at him.

[Francis]

Saying a story about a thing you like.

[Tommy Pope]

It was strong, strong about it.

[Chris]

You want some chocolate?

[Tommy Pope]

I don't like chocolate.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

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[Francis]

What the heck?

[Ron]

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[Francis]

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[Ron]

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[Francis]

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[Chris]

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[Francis]

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[Francis]

The only reason I have hbo, the only reason I pay for all those channels, is because the Godfather comes on from time to time. But they've been playing the Godfather 3 more than they've been playing Godfather 2.

[Chris]

Everyone said it sucked. And then I've met some people who are like, dude, it's not that bad.

[Tommy Pope]

No, it's not that bad.

[Chris]

Worth watching 100.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, it just doesn't. It's just modern one's amazing. Two is the greatest film ever, ever made. Obviously threes, you know, not gonna hold up. Yeah, it's like fucking Rocky 5.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You know, it's weird.

[Tommy Pope]

Tommy, say something ignorant.

[Chris]

I didn't know as a kid watching Star Wars. I. My ranking of them was probably three was my favorite.

[Ron]

Yeah, the Empire Strikes Back.

[Francis]

No, that's two. No, no, no.

[Chris]

Let's not do that. Don't do the fucking episode.

[Ron]

Wait, wait, I thought the Empire Strikes Back was three. Was the third one.

[Chris]

No.

[Francis]

Return of the Jedi.

[Chris]

Return of the Jedi's that one. No, New Hope is four. Empire Strikes Back is technically.

[Ron]

Are you guys doing. You're doing the order with the.

[Chris]

I don't like doing that. I don't want to do that.

[Ron]

Is that what you're doing, though?

[Francis]

That's what I was doing.

[Chris]

He introduced that and then I allowed it.

[Ron]

But the first one ever made was A New Hope, correct? Yeah. And then the third one ever made was the Empire Strikes Back.

[Chris]

Wrong.

[Ron]

Really?

[Chris]

Second one made was Empire Strikes Back. Third one is Return of the Jedi.

[Ron]

I see, I see.

[Chris]

I thought Return of the Jedi was the best, Then A New Hope, then Empire Strikes Back. Come to find the world holds Empire Strikes Back as the great film of the franchise, then A New Hope, and then Return of the Jedi was this okay movie?

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. It's the opposite of children, any trilogy. The middle one is the best when it's kids. Throw that kid in a fucking wood chipper.

[Chris]

How would you. How would you rank the Dark Knight trilogy?

[Tommy Pope]

Huh?

[Chris]

How would you handle that?

[Tommy Pope]

Okay.

[Chris]

How is your. Would you say that again, please? Yeah. How have you gotten away with that this long? It's grading. It is great.

[Tommy Pope]

What is this problem? The Dark Knight contract negotiations or something?

[Ron]

No, we just had him.

[Tommy Pope]

What's he saw?

[Ron]

I just had one.

[Tommy Pope]

Why is he on one?

[Francis]

Come to think of it, he. He might.

[Tommy Pope]

Why is he on one? You just. A million dollars playing against fat.

[Chris]

220.

[Tommy Pope]

And by the way, shut the up and say hi.

[Chris]

There were some tour level pros in that tournament. Thank my teammate.

[Francis]

There were some tour level.

[Chris]

Season two.

[Tommy Pope]

Retards that was a callback.

[Chris]

How would you rank the Dark Knight? You know what? We don't have to do that. I don't think we need to do that.

[Ron]

I would say Dark Knight. The. The Dark Knight is the best one by a model.

[Chris]

That's what everyone says. Yeah.

[Ron]

Not even close. The Dark Knight Rises is very good too.

[Chris]

What would you say is two, though?

[Ron]

I don't know.

[Chris]

Batman Begins or Dark Knight Rises.

[Ron]

Dark Knight Rises.

[Tommy Pope]

I don't know.

[Ron]

I think a lot of people that have seen those movies have never even seen Batman Begins.

[Chris]

Is that so?

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Batman Begins is excellent.

[Tommy Pope]

I went to a movie, My fat Aunt Lori, you know that one of the Batmans. Where the balls drop.

[Francis]

Yes.

[Tommy Pope]

And it goes ding, ding, ding. Ding.

[Francis]

Yes. Yes, yes.

[Tommy Pope]

And it's very quiet, and everyone's, like, so intense. And she laughed so hard.

[Ron]

You saw the one where it's like, Jack Nicholson's the Joker.

[Francis]

Yes.

[Chris]

No.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

It was old school. It was probably, like, 88.

[Chris]

You went to the theater.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. And the balls dropped.

[Ron]

And she.

[Tommy Pope]

She peed her pants laughing because it was two balls. Drop it.

[Ron]

That's great.

[Tommy Pope]

She had to get up because she wet her pants.

[Francis]

Had. She had kids at that point? Was her pelvic floor weakened or was.

[Tommy Pope]

She had one kid. Yeah.

[Francis]

Okay.

[Tommy Pope]

I don't think that's an excuse. That's crazy.

[Francis]

I was trying to find women in.

[Tommy Pope]

There that had kids.

[Francis]

I don't know if it was a slip and slide.

[Tommy Pope]

Fat ants to wet the jeans. That sound really fun. A dog whistle.

[Francis]

Just two balls.

[Tommy Pope]

That's all it took.

[Chris]

I haven't. I don't know if I've seen that whole one, so I don't know what that is.

[Ron]

I've never even seen that one.

[Chris]

Yeah. Balls dropping. You're talking about testicles?

[Tommy Pope]

No, there's, like, two grenades kind of drop.

[Chris]

Oh, I see.

[Tommy Pope]

But they're. They're smooth.

[Chris]

And why did she think they're very so funny?

[Tommy Pope]

Because it looks like two nuts dropping.

[Chris]

Oh, it was a sexual.

[Tommy Pope]

It was definitely phallic.

[Chris]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Francis]

She was perverse.

[Ron]

Something for the adults.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Think phallus.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. What?

[Chris]

You know what I'm gonna say.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, I said it incorrectly.

[Chris]

No, you didn't say it incorrectly. I think phallus only applies to the actual shaft.

[Tommy Pope]

Phallic.

[Chris]

Phallic. I don't think it applies to the balls.

[Ron]

It's just the shaft.

[Chris]

I think phallic. That's why, like, the Washington Monument is phallic. Could you check that for me? I could be wrong about that if it's the whole male genital genitalia.

[Tommy Pope]

If you hear him a second time.

[Chris]

Yeah, but that doesn't.

[Ron]

Yeah, no, I think.

[Chris]

I think this is phallic. If you were to put this here and you were applying. I don't think balls are phallic. I could be wrong.

[Ron]

Sound off in the comments, guys. Let us know.

[Francis]

Let us know.

[Tommy Pope]

It's penis or balls.

[Francis]

Did you. Do you have a lot of fat ants?

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, they're all fat.

[Francis]

Are they?

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. At this point, talked about on stage, I have a bit about night terrors. And I say all my. All my ants are built for winter. And I name up this. In particularly this one ant.

[Ron]

And you think she knows?

[Tommy Pope]

Well, my cousin, her daughter just Got married.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

My brother Steve goes to the wedding and she walks up to Steve. She's got a wig on.

[Chris]

She did.

[Tommy Pope]

Goes epic. It looks like an elephant losing like £600. Structures all out of whack. She walks right up. My brother Steve go. You know, I had to not invite people to Bridget's wedding, so you. Tom was one of them. Apparently he's on stage talking about how fast I got a annex from a wedding.

[Ron]

That's brutal.

[Francis]

Yeah, I feel like that would keep me from even doing it because I'd be so. I'm such a people pleasing that I just would be scared that it would get back to somebody.

[Tommy Pope]

Well, you should change the name. Yeah, I had an easy app. Yeah, you say the facts and then you just throw a name in there that's not one of my mom's sisters. Sisters.

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ron]

And then you just feel like it's made up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you said the name.

[Tommy Pope]

Say any name. Yeah. This used to put me in her basement with the kids during Thanksgiving. Were you wanted at a kids table? No, I was like 13, so I lost my mind. She bullied the out of me.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

This pig's gonna get it when I get older.

[Ron]

13 get begging to get out of the kids table. It's ambitious.

[Tommy Pope]

Crazy.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Knock on the door, take a piss.

[Ron]

Yeah. You had high hopes as a young boy. Boy, you said, this is in it. This isn't for me.

[Francis]

She was taking you to movies, though. She was spoiling you. She was taking you to movies.

[Ron]

Was she the one that pissed herself? Oh, yeah. She sounds like a problem.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ron]

Locking you in, the kids.

[Tommy Pope]

I'm not going to her funeral.

[Ron]

No, that.

[Francis]

She's gonna live longer, though. Did you guys hear about that? Like there's ozempic face or whatever, all the ozempic stuff, but it just came out. There's ozempic dick that. There's ozempic dick.

[Ron]

What does it do? Does it make your dick bigger?

[Francis]

I think. I think that it's making dicks bigger.

[Ron]

Well, I think that's natural. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and you lose the.

[Francis]

I heard you lo. You gain an inch for every 35 pounds.

[Ron]

Really?

[Tommy Pope]

That's not true. That's crazy.

[Ron]

I feel like I could see if you lose 35, I'm hoping to at least get an inch, but how much has.

[Francis]

So how much already built in?

[Ron]

Yeah, but you're losing everything around it.

[Chris]

Maybe it's a visual thing.

[Francis]

So does that mean Frank the tank has like a 14 inch?

[Ron]

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

[Francis]

What is Frank the tank working with.

[Ron]

Now, I have zero doubt that his dick doubled.

[Chris]

I think it's more that before he had a negative 7 inch. Yes. And now he has.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

I hope, dude.

[Francis]

I hope.

[Tommy Pope]

I hope he ties his dick not.

[Ron]

To take a shit.

[Tommy Pope]

That guy's gotta have something.

[Ron]

He's definitely got a big dick. It's natural.

[Chris]

Why?

[Ron]

It just happens.

[Francis]

What are you talking about?

[Ron]

You've never like lost like weight and been like. No. Wow, interesting.

[Francis]

I mean, I don't think I've ever lost that. I've never lost. I've never fluctuated 35.

[Ron]

I feel like you hold a lot of fat in the, in the penis. In the foup.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

And the, the, the pubic hair area in general. And then when you lose weight, that cuts. Slims down.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. Shave your bird, you become an Ethiopian.

[Ron]

Exactly.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

That extra.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

But you're all pube though.

[Ron]

Yes.

[Tommy Pope]

You sick down there.

[Ron]

Yes.

[Tommy Pope]

You sick hair.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

You got a bouffant.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Why?

[Ron]

I don't know.

[Francis]

You can kind of drive without an airbag.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Francis]

He just has like a. Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Little shell.

[Francis]

Mountain.

[Tommy Pope]

Little turtle shell.

[Ron]

I wish that my hair was the same texture as my pubic hair.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Be nice.

[Ron]

I got a much better pubic situation going on than up top, you know? Nice curls.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. Nobody's pubes goes balding in the wrong areas.

[Chris]

Did you ever do hair transplant? I just did. So I'm not being. This isn't a show.

[Tommy Pope]

Ding. No, I haven't.

[Chris]

That's amazing.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, Nice hair.

[Chris]

That's rooted in too.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

It's beautiful.

[Chris]

That's amazing.

[Ron]

You sure?

[Tommy Pope]

What?

[Ron]

You never did nothing?

[Tommy Pope]

No, nothing. Why would. I'm not gonna.

[Ron]

You got a good headache? You got a good headache.

[Tommy Pope]

I'm not doing Botox, I think. Not doing lifts, not doing hair transplants. I'm gonna age gracefully like a man. They don't make them like this anymore. Yeah, we ain't 24 year olds fly fish eating ca.

[Francis]

I saw a dude. I saw a video of a dude who's six six and he said that he's going to the bar in lifts and air maxes. So he could be six nine. Because he said all the six foot guys are going from six foot to six three.

[Chris]

Jesus Christ.

[Francis]

And they're getting closer to him in the implants with the, with the implants, with the lifts and the. And the air maxes.

[Ron]

You can't be six, six, throwing implants in.

[Francis]

He's throwing the, the wedges in his shoes on in the air maxes. And he's getting three more inches because he says his face card's not good enough.

[Ron]

He said if your face card's not good enough, going from six, six to six, nine isn't helping anything. Like, oh, this guy's a creature.

[Chris]

And being a six foot nine guy having a normal conversation with like a five' five girl is assault.

[Ron]

Yeah, 100.

[Chris]

That's all it is.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

There's no way that that's. That is too, too, too, you know, too much.

[Tommy Pope]

Be five, eight and be funny.

[Ron]

Three inch. Three inch implants, too. I was talking to someone the other day, Zach from the Chicago office. He was saying that if you go too big on the implants that your. Your shoes just turn into flip flops.

[Chris]

What do you mean?

[Ron]

Because your heels are sticking out of the back of the shoe. Because there's so much implant in the shoe.

[Francis]

He was trying it.

[Ron]

I think he said, like he tried it once and. Yeah, but I think he's tall.

[Francis]

Yeah, he's probably going to 6. 3. All the 6. 6 foot guys are going to 6.

[Chris]

3.

[Ron]

Yeah, 6.

[Francis]

3 guys have to be in shaking in their boots. You might as well go to six' six.

[Chris]

Well, I'm wondering. This is new info for me.

[Tommy Pope]

You got the money?

[Chris]

Yeah. Okay.

[Tommy Pope]

Actually, par for the course.

[Francis]

All right.

[Chris]

This is a great moment. So. So I'm an obsessive person. I'm a materially obsessive person. Although I'll also get fixated on like a hobby or like juggling. I got obsessed with learning to juggle, and I spent two weeks everywhere I went.

[Francis]

Show us.

[Chris]

Just going, show us something. I can juggle.

[Ron]

How long ago was that?

[Chris]

That was when I was like 13.

[Ron]

That you were juggling.

[Chris]

Yeah, I mean, I still can. Once you learn it, you don't lose it.

[Ron]

It's like the Rubik's Cube.

[Chris]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ron]

We don't have anything to juggle in here, do we?

[Chris]

Not really.

[Ron]

Do we not have three balls?

[Tommy Pope]

We got three producers.

[Ron]

Do we have three balls?

[Francis]

We really don't need something. We don't need to do it. I trust you.

[Ron]

No, I believe it is. I believe.

[Francis]

I believe that you could juggle.

[Chris]

What do we got? Yeah, sure.

[Ron]

There we go.

[Tommy Pope]

This is also impressive.

[Chris]

So many people can juggle.

[Tommy Pope]

This is a very difficult thing to juggle. Wow.

[Ron]

Could you go all day.

[Tommy Pope]

Legitimately impressed?

[Ron]

Wow.

[Francis]

Good, good.

[Tommy Pope]

But if they were circular.

[Francis]

Oh, that's.

[Tommy Pope]

I'm in. I'm in.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Finish this story.

[Francis]

You've earned the rest of the story.

[Chris]

Thank you.

[Tommy Pope]

Anybody got a Gun.

[Chris]

Three guns. So you like chocolate? I love chocolate.

[Francis]

Do you like chocolate?

[Chris]

Yeah. I grew up back in Chicago. Holy. Can we get him another beer? Let's get him another beer.

[Tommy Pope]

Chicago has this juggling.

[Chris]

Have some chocolate.

[Ron]

It's mushroom chocolate.

[Chris]

Right now the obsession is. You're a coffee guy. You're a coffee guy. I know you are.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

What do you like? What's your coffee drink?

[Ron]

You're definitely a real. You're definitely like you're missing the beans and.

[Tommy Pope]

No, I mean I do grind my own beans.

[Ron]

Yeah, you got the whole process.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, I have a bialetti. I do a bialetti.

[Chris]

What's that?

[Tommy Pope]

It's the small wop espresso machine you put on the stove.

[Chris]

That's great. I used to have one of those. Yeah, those are great.

[Tommy Pope]

I use that and I'll put some hot water americano if I want. Or I just do a bialetti.

[Chris]

Those are great.

[Ron]

Microphone. I was making a joke.

[Chris]

They're like gunmetal steel looking and they're cool. And you put them right on the stove. Yeah, that's cool.

[Tommy Pope]

And you slow purpose work it. It's like an espresso maker for your.

[Chris]

I used to have.

[Tommy Pope]

And then I have a pour over and I have a press.

[Chris]

So you. Yeah, so you drink?

[Tommy Pope]

I do cold bro. I got a cold brew maker.

[Chris]

This is a coffee guy.

[Ron]

Yeah, coffee guy.

[Tommy Pope]

Right.

[Ron]

But I'm not unlocked it. We should have started with this.

[Chris]

We did start with this and he mocked me for it. I was like, you like coffee? He's like, and these Jackson test.

[Tommy Pope]

You threw shade immediately.

[Chris]

I did not.

[Tommy Pope]

You started this whole thing being a sucker. And I don't know if that's your pants, your shoes, your haircut, but you did this.

[Ron]

Wait, so you're not. So you're not going out to get coffee because you can't have coffee outside the house.

[Tommy Pope]

No, that's not true.

[Ron]

You got a travel setup.

[Tommy Pope]

I can.

[Chris]

No thermos.

[Ron]

You got a Coleman in the hotel room.

[Tommy Pope]

I just. Black hot.

[Francis]

Black hot.

[Tommy Pope]

I. I don't put anything in it. No sugar, no cream. Straight black.

[Ron]

You're going to get an ulcer.

[Tommy Pope]

That's it. Yeah, yeah. Bad for the stomach and ate the coffee.

[Chris]

Well, I like espresso.

[Tommy Pope]

You like espresso.

[Chris]

I like espresso drinks. And I've become obsessed with acquiring a very high end espresso machine for my.

[Tommy Pope]

Looked into it. 1300 is the bottom rung.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

You can go to 35, 26.

[Chris]

You can go above that 100% but that's.

[Tommy Pope]

That's. That's for a three press. Four press.

[Chris]

No, that's.

[Tommy Pope]

Dude, if you want an individual, aren't.

[Ron]

Those sounds like loud as 12 to 18?

[Chris]

Like, bro, you can go. For an individual one, you can go. I'm. I'm looking at La Marzoc.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Those are like six grand.

[Tommy Pope]

That's insane.

[Chris]

I know. And that's why I'm looking at them. Used and refurbished. But these things are so coveted that they're. It's almost like Porsches, where the more that they're used, the more value they have. There's, like, us. You cannot find a secondary market or used versions of these things. Yeah. I've been on ebay. I got scammed by everybody.

[Ron]

Really everybody.

[Chris]

And these people are brilliant. These scammers on ebay.

[Ron]

Oh, yeah. There's a strategy.

[Chris]

They're listing them at prices that are just attractive enough but not suspicious enough to warrant someone who. I'm a ebay noob.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I don't know. And so I'm like.

[Tommy Pope]

Do you like daycare?

[Chris]

Where's this going?

[Ron]

Somalia.

[Tommy Pope]

You ever been to Minneapolis? There's this place, this daycare.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

In Minneapolis.

[Chris]

I missed that whole thing, by the way. I was in New Zealand, so I didn't keep up with that news cycle.

[Ron]

There wasn't much to learn. Somalians.

[Tommy Pope]

All right, cut that last one. Too much of a good thing.

[Chris]

La Marzocco's an Italian.

[Tommy Pope]

That's crazy.

[Ron]

You don't need all that.

[Chris]

I know that. I don't.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

So I was gonna see if you had any recommendations.

[Tommy Pope]

I would say low tier. Go 1 to 2000.

[Chris]

I've got the Breville touch. It's not good enough.

[Tommy Pope]

No, that's not the same.

[Chris]

It's not good enough. You want to automate.

[Tommy Pope]

You want a true professional industrial style.

[Chris]

I want an acoustic.

[Tommy Pope]

It'll last forever.

[Chris]

I want a truly acoustic thing that requires commitment and learning and precision. Grind the beans, weigh the beans, all that. Yeah. Want that.

[Ron]

Spray them down.

[Chris]

But, dude, I also. At the same time, I don't want an insane amount of maintenance because you're gonna have.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, well, you have to wait.

[Francis]

So if you leave, you have to. What do you have to feed it?

[Chris]

People say. People say that these. La Marzoc work best if you use them every day. You use them all the time? Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

They're not for personal use.

[Chris]

It's for.

[Tommy Pope]

It's a per shop.

[Chris]

It's a Ferrari that you don't want to keep. Keep in the garage. You want to drive I would just.

[Ron]

Go run get a Keurig.

[Tommy Pope]

Keurig's nice. Also the Nespresso.

[Ron]

That's what I was going to say. If you have very underrated.

[Chris]

Get the out of here. Water down. Of course it is of all time.

[Ron]

It's a delight.

[Chris]

You can have. You can start there. I started there. We all start somewhere. We all start somewhere.

[Ron]

I'm a simplicity.

[Tommy Pope]

Where do you park your horse when you show up? You got a feed outside, but your legs are starting to bow.

[Chris]

I hand the reins off to the trainer.

[Tommy Pope]

This is the whitest guy you've ever met your life. Is it nuts?

[Ron]

It's actually a good question.

[Francis]

I heard. No, I saw him rap for Ludicrous.

[Ron]

I did too.

[Tommy Pope]

You rapped for Ludicrous? Oh, yeah.

[Ron]

In person. On the radio.

[Tommy Pope]

Where?

[Ron]

On SiriusXM.

[Chris]

At their office. Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, his song.

[Chris]

No, my song. 10.

[Tommy Pope]

Your own personal song.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

You are genius in a way.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

What? Yeah, yeah.

[Francis]

I mean that you have a song. So what?

[Tommy Pope]

But do you want to do it?

[Francis]

The thing is, you're. You're. You live on top of a great coffee shop.

[Chris]

Killing me. I do. Yes. But I don't like buying coffee because.

[Francis]

You want to spend $6,000 on a.

[Chris]

Coffee that'll pay for itself in what? 20 years, five years, four years.

[Ron]

But you also told me that the coffee beans that you get are. You buy those at the beginning of the year now.

[Chris]

I get them for free. And those are amazing.

[Ron]

But what about. If you're gonna go espresso, you're not gonna need those beans.

[Chris]

Yeah, you can still make espresso with regular coffee beans.

[Ron]

Really?

[Chris]

It's just very. Well, there are espresso beans, but espresso, I think.

[Ron]

Ah, you should dry up black beans.

[Chris]

Owen, will you help me out with this? Is espresso strictly about the beans or is it. Can you make espresso just by having be very condensed co coffee from the.

[Tommy Pope]

Dress was not about the beans.

[Chris]

That's what I thought. That's what I think.

[Ron]

That's not the most.

[Chris]

That's not an easy Google. Oh, and I'm sorry.

[Tommy Pope]

It's about the process.

[Chris]

How do you kill your podcast Coast. It's not about the bean.

[Ron]

It's the method of pressing.

[Chris]

There you go. Not about the bean. So could you technically we're gonna write the book. Tommy.

[Ron]

Pinot espresso.

[Francis]

What do you mean Pinot bean?

[Ron]

Could you just use any bean? Pinto. My bad. Said Pino.

[Chris]

Pino.

[Francis]

I thought you meant like a Pinot Noir.

[Tommy Pope]

Sorry I'm late. Some Pino beam took a left when he should have took a right.

[Ron]

Could you make like, like, black bean coffee?

[Francis]

No, no, it has to be coffee beans.

[Ron]

Well, obviously. Obviously.

[Tommy Pope]

What are you talking about?

[Ron]

Obviously it wouldn't be coffee, but could you technically make that as a.

[Tommy Pope]

How are you alive?

[Ron]

I mean, who we're talking, talking.

[Tommy Pope]

Any bean?

[Francis]

No, it's any coffee bean.

[Chris]

It's like saying, could you make a burger out of crayons? Like, no, no, technically, I guess they're all beans.

[Ron]

They're all beans. If it's about the way that you.

[Francis]

Compress the beans, I'm repeating it like that.

[Tommy Pope]

They're all beans.

[Francis]

What do you mean they're all.

[Tommy Pope]

They're all beans?

[Ron]

You could technically get a. Yeah, and you could trick someone.

[Tommy Pope]

You. That's right.

[Ron]

That's why have this cup of coffee.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, oh. That's why all the youth. They're fucking fat. Why does his jelly bean espresso everywhere?

[Ron]

Jelly bean espresso.

[Tommy Pope]

All the kids are fat.

[Chris]

Wait a minute.

[Tommy Pope]

Get jelly belly pressed.

[Chris]

If you pressed beans, all that would come out is like, water into juice starch, which is.

[Francis]

Well, you need bean grounds.

[Ron]

True, true.

[Chris]

Which is just refreshed fried beans, basically.

[Tommy Pope]

Wait, is that chocolate mushrooms? Is that why we're here?

[Ron]

Yeah, that's mushrooms.

[Tommy Pope]

How do we get here?

[Ron]

No, it's not mushrooms. I told him it was mushroom chocolate.

[Chris]

It is.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

It is.

[Tommy Pope]

Couldn't all beans just be beans? If you think about it, have you think about it, have you think about it.

[Francis]

You probably just have to dry them. So which one are you gonna. Are you gonna go with?

[Chris]

I don't know yet. I'm struggling.

[Francis]

You're really going to spend 6,000?

[Chris]

No, I'm not going to. I've really kind of decided I need to chill the fuck out on spending. And that was why I was really begging or hoping to find a refurbished half broken, you know, thing. Yeah.

[Ron]

And you want one of the big, like the golden one with air pumps coming out of it. And see, they're CO2 cartridges.

[Chris]

Every nice coffee shop you go to has a La Marzocco. But Those are the $30,000 rigs that he' talking about.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Which. That's where you're like, oh, these coffee shops are always started by people who get investors because the overhead cost of starting. You got it. That's. That's a thing you got to pay for. And they'd make a couple versions for. The home one is called the Micra, the Linea Micra, which is relatively small. Just one Sort of thing. Spouse out. I don't have the verbiage. Right. But, you know, you put that under your cabinet on your shelf and you can, you can make it work. But I, I. They're 4, 500 bucks from the website. New. I mean, I was hoping.

[Francis]

You gotta do it. You have to do.

[Chris]

I was. No, I'm not gonna spend that.

[Ron]

But would this be a refurbishment? You would live and die.

[Tommy Pope]

If you're gonna make a mistake, get a new one.

[Francis]

What if it's a lemon? You know? Yeah, you get a shitty one.

[Tommy Pope]

You know, the inner workings of that.

[Chris]

Something.

[Ron]

Someone's been making black bean coffee with it.

[Tommy Pope]

Some angry wap. Putting the water in the wrong distiller.

[Francis]

Yes. You got to get a fresh one.

[Chris]

I can't. I don't. I don't think I can spend that right now. I can't.

[Francis]

You just sold the shoes. What are you talking about?

[Ron]

Your flush shoe money.

[Chris]

I sold all my Jordans.

[Tommy Pope]

You sold your Jordans?

[Chris]

People got mad at me. So many people had asked me if they could buy them from me, and I. I just didn't want to go through the rigmarole of shipping each individual pair out to some different person and having. So I went to the resale places in Lower east side and sold them all. Got my face off. But I. I knew that would happen.

[Ron]

You got shoes?

[Tommy Pope]

Huh?

[Ron]

You got shoes?

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, I got shoes.

[Ron]

But you got, like, these boys. You got, like, sneakers.

[Tommy Pope]

Like.

[Ron]

Are you a sneaker head?

[Tommy Pope]

No, no, I like sneaks. I look good.

[Ron]

What's your best pair?

[Tommy Pope]

I don't know.

[Francis]

Tommy's incredibly. You're incredibly well dressed.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, but I don't care about, like, even.

[Francis]

But even, like, when you go to, like, an Eagles game or something like that.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You got the p. You're gonna wear like.

[Chris]

Yeah, coat guy. Right?

[Francis]

But also he'll wear like a cool, like, eagles, like vintage. Like, like, you know, the right color tones and stuff like that.

[Chris]

Cool.

[Francis]

You do.

[Ron]

I had a good Eagles. I used to have a good Eagles shirt that you once tried to buy from me.

[Tommy Pope]

And you didn't give it to me.

[Ron]

And I didn't give it to you. And then I lost.

[Tommy Pope]

Did. Of course you did. I know.

[Ron]

I felt bad about it.

[Francis]

And now you know how the kids feel. Who. Francis. Tried to sell his shoes.

[Chris]

Well, I didn't lose my shoes. I just.

[Tommy Pope]

You sold them in a bulk a wholesale.

[Chris]

Not wholesale. I just sold them to the. The place where you would get the.

[Francis]

You didn't want to go to the. The post office. Once. So you went to three different stores to sell.

[Ron]

Yeah, I mean that's, honestly, that's not a bad. Like going to the post office.

[Tommy Pope]

What are we talking here?

[Chris]

I sold seven pairs of sneakers for 1900 bucks. 2000 bucks.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Cash. They hand you just cash.

[Tommy Pope]

That's great.

[Francis]

And they're worth, they're probably worth 9,000.

[Tommy Pope]

They're gonna make five, six grand off that.

[Chris]

Probably something like that. Maybe four.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. You Buffalo exchanged yourself.

[Chris]

Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's exactly what I did.

[Tommy Pope]

It's some 20 year old dimwit.

[Chris]

Well, someone, someone messaged me and was like, if all you were gonna get for the Witherspoon May Maxes was $200, you could have easily sent them that to a, A, to a, a fan like me who would have loved them. And I'm like, this isn't. You know, do you want to come to my home and hand me the cash and pick them up? Sure. Yeah, fine.

[Ron]

That's also kind of a like, no one's thinking you're not, you're not cleaning out your apartment. Being like, would any of my podcast.

[Chris]

Listeners want any of this?

[Tommy Pope]

Well, you say that from sk.

[Chris]

I did, I did put out spit on it.

[Tommy Pope]

Would anyone?

[Chris]

I did put out the call on the pod being like, if anyone wants to buy them. So that is on me to a degree. But the problem with that was that I then I got fucking 400 messages from being people. Being like, I only want this pair. I only. And I wanted to get rid of them all in one fell swoop.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

And a lot of those people probably aren't even fans of the podcast. Just like they got tipped off. Yeah, they're like this guy Barstool, and.

[Chris]

Never heard of you, but I want you, Joy.

[Ron]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chris]

And then people were like, oh. And then people were like, send pictures of the heel. Send pictures of the toe box.

[Francis]

I like this.

[Chris]

I want, I want proof of this. Like I need to, you know. And I'm like, God damn, dude. I'm not doing all this. Bring him to one guy in the Lower east side who sniffs the tongue and he's like, good to go. It smells like bubble gum.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

These are real.

[Francis]

That's why you.

[Chris]

Whatever the. You know.

[Ron]

So sometimes it smells. Was like, yeah, they're always doing weird. What was the end of that?

[Chris]

What was the end of that?

[Tommy Pope]

Say it.

[Chris]

We thought jokes.

[Ron]

I was going to say sometimes it smells like watermelon, but then I realized that I was thinking about. Cuz when they smack it, they're like.

[Francis]

They want Just sound like watermelon.

[Chris]

That would have been fine.

[Ron]

Yeah. I wouldn't. For the sneaker heads. They would have been on my ass.

[Tommy Pope]

My brother used to do that to me growing up.

[Chris]

What?

[Tommy Pope]

He would scratch his palm like this, and he goes, oh, my God, it smells just like strawberry. Smell this.

[Ron]

And then what? He smacks. Yeah.

[Chris]

Wow. That's tough.

[Ron]

That's a good one, though.

[Chris]

It's a great one.

[Ron]

We used to do with the. You ever do this with the lacrosse Cut that. Or the hockey stick? You ever see the one with the. Look where people be like. You look at the. And then you jam it into their face.

[Chris]

Oh, my God.

[Ron]

You guys never did that.

[Chris]

Just hit them with the butt of the stick on their face.

[Ron]

You wouldn't do it hall hard. It's like you're trying to kill them.

[Francis]

It's pretty barbaric, though.

[Ron]

I didn't come out. It's not like I created this.

[Chris]

I played on winning teams. Weird chemists on the C team.

[Ron]

It was a lot more shenanigans. Not a serious program.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

We would be doing. We would. The big one was. The best one to do in hockey was take the butt of the stick and you jab it in someone's back. And then you twist them.

[Chris]

Oh, yeah.

[Ron]

And then you pull them in.

[Chris]

We would do that.

[Ron]

Yeah. That's a classic.

[Chris]

That's fun. Fine.

[Tommy Pope]

You wrap the jersey.

[Ron]

Yeah, wrap the jersey. Pull them in.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Funny.

[Chris]

The other thing we would do on the sideline is because guys would be leaning on their stick. A way to stand is they'd lean on their stick and have their legs kind of crossed. And we would kick the stick out.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

That's how buddy.

[Chris]

Or you just poke it like that. And sometimes you did it really well. It'd go flying.

[Ron]

Oh, yeah. Stick. Check them.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

You ever get. You ever get fully desticked?

[Chris]

Yeah. With D wanded, we call it. Yeah. Yards. That was always embarrassing.

[Ron]

Yeah. I was gonna say. That's got to be like you're scrambling on the ground, trying to pick it up.

[Chris]

Posterizing of lacrosse. Yeah, I would say. Or the ankle breaking of lacrosse. Yeah, probably.

[Ron]

I remember losing my stick a couple times in hockey. And then in hockey, it slides, and then you're just chasing your stick while the game is still going on. There's four guys or eight guys down there still playing. And you, you're skating up to get your stick.

[Chris]

Yeah. Tommy, what were your sports? Huh? I know you heard the question.

[Ron]

Not much. I was big into coffee from a young age.

[Tommy Pope]

So black beans, brown beans, baseball, basketball, football.

[Ron]

What was your favorite?

[Francis]

Baseball. Gotta be baseball.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You look like a baseball player.

[Chris]

Huh?

[Francis]

You look like you could go three, four, like sleeves or something like that. You're probably rolling.

[Tommy Pope]

That wasn't around. Around.

[Francis]

Really?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

To his point.

[Francis]

You couldn't just like fake it?

[Tommy Pope]

No, we weren't jerk offs yet. We just played the game smart.

[Ron]

When you were playing, you guys still had like the socks tucked in, like to the knees.

[Tommy Pope]

We had old school stirrups where it wasn't part of the sock they played with.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

It was like a separate piece.

[Chris]

Necktie on. Yeah.

[Ron]

White trash necktie, everyone. That's why I didn't go get faced.

[Tommy Pope]

Because it coincided with my baseball.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Season.

[Ron]

That makes sense.

[Tommy Pope]

If I took it all back. I did, you know, I'd probably just play golf.

[Ron]

That's what everyone says, but that's because everyone gets into it later.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, it is. It's an old man's sport.

[Ron]

Yeah. Also, it's like, good for you. If you played golf from the time that you were that age until now, you'd probably hate golf.

[Tommy Pope]

You learn so much more about, you know, competitive sports like football, baseball, basketball.

[Francis]

What do you mean? Like, as a person, like being a teammate?

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, Yeah, a teammate.

[Chris]

I agree.

[Tommy Pope]

You know, your character, your camaraderie, your fear, you know, stepping up like that, kind of. I wrote an article for New York Times about Jesus right before the Eagles won.

[Francis]

You wrote an article, you said you wrote an article for the New York Times?

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. What the.

[Ron]

About cte.

[Tommy Pope]

It was based on cte. Right before the Eagles won the Super.

[Ron]

Super bowl last year?

[Tommy Pope]

No, the first one.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Are you serious right now?

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You published in the New York Times?

[Tommy Pope]

Yes.

[Chris]

That's fantastic.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. Look it up.

[Chris]

I believe you. I'm just impressed.

[Tommy Pope]

Tommy Pope, New York Times.

[Chris]

No, you didn't do this.

[Francis]

It says, do you like coffee?

[Ron]

Let's talk coffee.

[Tommy Pope]

The reason I chose coffee over football. No, but I spoke about like, the camaraderie that, that whole thing that youth football. So my brother was going through an issue with like him getting his son into. Into sports, football in particular, for head injuries. When it came out like, this is an issue with young children. And I'm like, well, that, what that, what that did for me as an adult is like, you can't replace. It's like the most beautiful thing I've ever experienced was being around a group of kids all growing through adolescence, scared. The, like going through weigh ins, just seeing another team from a shitty town. And just getting, you know, that fire in your belly going like, this is it. And then just like, just competing.

[Chris]

You guys said weigh in aggression.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. So? So 60, 70, 90, 110.

[Francis]

It's like weight classes.

[Tommy Pope]

Weight classes. PB4 football.

[Chris]

And there was no one on the team who could be over a certain weight.

[Tommy Pope]

No. So they would take the fat kids, put them in trash bags. Literal Glad Bag Trash bags. Yeah.

[Ron]

And run them like.

[Chris]

Like wrestlers.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, they run around the. Around the field.

[Chris]

Holy.

[Tommy Pope]

They weigh back in. And if, you know, if he got in, they'd feed him like four or five hot dogs and then get out there and we win five out of seven years. Championship. Raiders were the dogs, dude. Yeah, we were the Drexel Hill Raiders. Yeah.

[Francis]

You were Drexel Hill.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I didn't know that.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Ron]

Born and raised.

[Tommy Pope]

Born and raised. Yeah.

[Francis]

You go to Bonner?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Really?

[Tommy Pope]

Really. I didn't.

[Chris]

Shut up.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, shut the up. I like. No, I like his fake enthusiasm works.

[Francis]

Yeah, I did, actually.

[Chris]

Glory day.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, and what was the name of the article?

[Ron]

It was A Very Conflicted Football Fan's Notes.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

So what was the point of the article? That the paralysis was worth the camaraderie.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. I think. I think the development of a child's personality outweighs the brain matter. Yeah. Yeah. At a certain level.

[Francis]

Right.

[Tommy Pope]

So, like, we're not talking about the percentages of people that get to the CTE level and compete at a high level in college and professional grade, like football. Those are the people that we. You save the brains. Right.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

There's cornerbacks and safeties, middle linebacks.

[Chris]

Is there no risk of that whatsoever, even through high school?

[Francis]

Calculated, I'm sure.

[Chris]

Calculate risk, of course, but, like, it's less frequent, certainly. I think. But the whole reason that they're telling these kids we shouldn't put kids in this.

[Tommy Pope]

Well, the conflicted message.

[Chris]

Because we don't want to start the process early. Right.

[Tommy Pope]

It's like what it gives you if you don't have season.

[Chris]

I like that. I like that.

[Tommy Pope]

But you also want to protect.

[Chris]

Right.

[Tommy Pope]

You know, the. The chance.

[Chris]

Do you not think a young boy could learn those skills and those things from another sport that's less.

[Tommy Pope]

No. Violence is imperative.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Francis]

How did you get. How did the New York Times let you write an article?

[Chris]

I was going to ask the same.

[Francis]

What did you send in a headshot?

[Tommy Pope]

Ding.

[Chris]

That.

[Ron]

I mean, it is wrong.

[Chris]

Crazy.

[Tommy Pope]

I get it from these guys. All.

[Francis]

I had to get one.

[Ron]

I mean, it is a good question. How did you get in that somebody.

[Tommy Pope]

Reached out saying, do you have any humor? Hum. Hum. Humor.

[Ron]

Humor.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, Humoristic conversations on anything that's pressing.

[Ron]

That's pretty.

[Francis]

You were pretty.

[Ron]

You were pretty ahead of the game on the.

[Tommy Pope]

That. Yeah. It was 2018, right.

[Chris]

You knew an editor at the New York Times.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. They reached out.

[Francis]

You're living Francis's dream.

[Chris]

It is truly a dream of mine to be published in either that or the New York. New York Times.

[Tommy Pope]

You haven't been published in New York Times. No, you dumb pussy.

[Chris]

I know. I've submitted.

[Tommy Pope]

Goofy, dumb.

[Chris]

I've submitted for the New Yorker before for talks and murmurs, which is their humor thing.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But I didn't get it. Wow.

[Tommy Pope]

You should.

[Chris]

I wrote like, a humorous I bet. Essay about the process of buying an engagement ring.

[Tommy Pope]

Well, that's your fault. Yeah.

[Francis]

We just keep shooting. I feel like had some heat.

[Tommy Pope]

Look, we. Ct of marriage. Come here. Come here.

[Francis]

Give it to him. You got to give it to him. You have to hand it.

[Tommy Pope]

I feel like I'm a long phone.

[Ron]

No, no.

[Tommy Pope]

Am I the only one? Have fun, you guys have fun.

[Francis]

I'm drinking beer.

[Tommy Pope]

Where's my next beer?

[Chris]

Tommy, now that we're all.

[Tommy Pope]

You're pissed.

[Chris]

Dude, we're in a good mood. Now that we're so upset.

[Tommy Pope]

I got New York Times.

[Chris]

We're getting along, you and me.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Earlier today, you said something that I almost could not come back from.

[Tommy Pope]

What I say.

[Chris]

When you were talking about your overweight on aunt, and you said that, well, your way is different.

[Tommy Pope]

No, you're white. You're not allowed to say aunt.

[Francis]

Your auntie do.

[Tommy Pope]

You're overweight.

[Chris]

Auntie do they say aunt black. I didn't know that.

[Tommy Pope]

Of course you didn't. You're so white. You're saying black things.

[Chris]

I guess I don't hear color, But I was gonna say that you said, you know, you got annexed from the wedding. I think annexed means added to.

[Francis]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Chris]

I had a very hard time moving on from that.

[Tommy Pope]

Really?

[Francis]

I think that Tommy's right. Quietly, I think, like, Puerto Rico got annexed.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Which means that we. We added it to America.

[Francis]

Oh, it's added.

[Chris]

Think of an annex to a house. That's an addition.

[Francis]

Oh, I was the whole time.

[Chris]

You meant to say axe, which is a black thing.

[Francis]

And clip it.

[Chris]

You said annexed. Annexed means.

[Tommy Pope]

So what do you. What are you saying?

[Francis]

That she got.

[Chris]

I couldn't get. I could. My brain was locked on this one thought, and I was like, do I tell him? Yeah, but we weren't getting along at that time.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, we are now.

[Chris]

So now we're fine. So I felt like I could finally bring it back up.

[Tommy Pope]

Okay. I'm not going to talk to you for three weeks. You've been horrendous.

[Chris]

Wow.

[Francis]

I thought it was a fucking. I thought it got chopped off.

[Tommy Pope]

You're not coming to my wedding. Is that what I told you?

[Chris]

I didn't even know you were getting married.

[Tommy Pope]

Well, I just told you.

[Francis]

You just got out of this.

[Chris]

Sounded like a question.

[Tommy Pope]

I wrote an article. You're not an article.

[Chris]

You're not coming to my wedding. What if I'd been like. Correct. That is correct. I choose not to come.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Francis]

That's sleepers. I know. It's going to be lovely. I know it's going to be a beautiful wedding about it. Of course. I wouldn't miss it.

[Chris]

Where are you doing it? What's going on?

[Ron]

The mothership.

[Tommy Pope]

We'll let you know.

[Francis]

Mothership.

[Chris]

I'll bring the coffee.

[Tommy Pope]

Rogan and friends.

[Ron]

Someone will get married there for sure.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, God.

[Ron]

You don't think so? 100%.

[Tommy Pope]

Of course.

[Francis]

Soon.

[Tommy Pope]

Soon.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

They don't have women in though, yet, right?

[Ron]

At the mothership. Do they got women in there?

[Francis]

Yeah, they do.

[Tommy Pope]

Comics?

[Ron]

Yeah, there's a bunch.

[Francis]

Oh, that's amazing.

[Ron]

Yeah, that's progressive.

[Tommy Pope]

It is progressive.

[Francis]

That's great.

[Chris]

Ding.

[Francis]

I think it's.

[Ron]

That was a little bit of that.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, I've been assaulted today. You get it right. What's your name again? Sean. Philly Guy.

[Francis]

Philly Guy.

[Ron]

Guy.

[Tommy Pope]

Are you. Where you from? Jesus Christ. You like cars? There's this car shop.

[Chris]

Saw it coming. Saw it coming.

[Tommy Pope]

It's a good bit.

[Chris]

It's a. It is a good bit.

[Tommy Pope]

Did you guys think it was a good bit?

[Ron]

I loved it.

[Tommy Pope]

To run it the whole time.

[Ron]

I loved.

[Francis]

Came it went. And then it came back, See?

[Chris]

It did.

[Tommy Pope]

It's called a rake bit.

[Chris]

You did lose it for a minute.

[Tommy Pope]

That's what's called a rake bit. You gotta lose it to gain it.

[Ron]

A rake bit.

[Tommy Pope]

Rake.

[Ron]

How does that work?

[Tommy Pope]

You just do something so long that it becomes.

[Ron]

It becomes. I get that.

[Tommy Pope]

Horrendous.

[Ron]

I did that.

[Tommy Pope]

And then it gets so much better when you bring it back around. Yeah. You keep doing it. I sit in the trenches. Yeah.

[Ron]

You say in the pocket, you get seats and you go, I know this is funny. I'm gonna make it funny.

[Chris]

Do you have anything you want to promote?

[Tommy Pope]

I wasn't done. I was talking to my friends.

[Chris]

I guess that's it.

[Tommy Pope]

You and I are going to talk stuff. Island podcast.

[Ron]

Check it out.

[Tommy Pope]

Look at this. My cooking show.

[Ron]

We're going to come down there and we're going to do show.

[Tommy Pope]

I would love that.

[Ron]

Yeah. And then we're going to golf.

[Tommy Pope]

I would love that.

[Ron]

And we're going to film that as well.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I got to get.

[Tommy Pope]

I got to get swinging.

[Francis]

You guys got to do a steak off, too, while you're down there on. Look at this. Where the two of them. You're coming steak against you guys.

[Chris]

What do you think?

[Tommy Pope]

You're not coming walk out of my kitchen.

[Francis]

Really? Francis couldn't cook a steak.

[Tommy Pope]

Anyone could cook a steak.

[Francis]

Not me.

[Chris]

You know what I did last night?

[Tommy Pope]

Time and temperature.

[Chris]

Can I tell you what I cooked last night? Yeah, I cooked venison Korean rice bowls.

[Tommy Pope]

Oh, nice.

[Chris]

It's actually awesome.

[Tommy Pope]

Use hoisan.

[Chris]

Yeah, I made my own. I made my own stir fry sauce.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

With sesame oil, soy sauce, grated garlic, grated ginger, honey brown sugar.

[Tommy Pope]

What was your sweetener?

[Chris]

Brown sugar.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And there was something else in there, too.

[Francis]

Hoisin.

[Chris]

I don't think I used poison. And then I made my own chipotle mayo. Spicy, with some kind of like, weird Chinese paste. That was very special.

[Tommy Pope]

What did you say?

[Francis]

Goo. John.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah, go.

[Ron]

Isn't that spicy as hell? No, no, no.

[Tommy Pope]

This is a concentrated, like, it's like their tomato paste.

[Ron]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris]

You know what? I've started doing that. I never used to do cut that. And I. And I never realized how important it is.

[Tommy Pope]

Good. Say start over.

[Chris]

That's okay. What I started doing.

[Tommy Pope]

I said nip.

[Chris]

What is that? Nippon?

[Tommy Pope]

Short for Nippon?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tommy Pope]

Dude, you wouldn't know. I'm a writer in the New York Times.

[Chris]

Continue.

[Tommy Pope]

Jesus Christ.

[Chris]

I think what I've learned.

[Tommy Pope]

You ever been.

[Ron]

Do you have a. Use that a credit as a credit when you go up.

[Tommy Pope]

What?

[Ron]

Like, you might know him from the New York Times.

[Francis]

You might have read him.

[Chris]

That's funny.

[Ron]

You might have seen him in the Times 10 years ago.

[Chris]

You might recognize his tone from.

[Tommy Pope]

Like.

[Ron]

When you go to the NFL games, are people like, whoa, that's a guy that wrote about cte.

[Chris]

Hang on a second.

[Tommy Pope]

Saved my kid's life.

[Chris]

Yeah, that does look like the same tiny picture I've seen.

[Tommy Pope]

Thanks for having me, guys.

[Ron]

This was great. Yeah. Stuff island.

[Tommy Pope]

Stuff island.

[Chris]

Washing rice before I cook it was what I was going to say.

[Francis]

You wash the rice.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah. You have to wash the rice.

[Chris]

I used to just throw it in.

[Ron]

I just go with the bag.

[Chris]

Now I wash it and it Tastes so much better. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Tommy Pope]

Do you have proper sushi rice or what'd you use? What type of rice?

[Chris]

Just white basmati.

[Tommy Pope]

Basmati?

[Chris]

Yeah, it was really good.

[Ron]

I love basmati.

[Chris]

And then I cut cucumbers really thin, and then I julienned carrots, and then I added some kimchi. So I did all that with the chipotle mayo and the venison in the stir fry over the rice.

[Tommy Pope]

Ah, fucking rules.

[Chris]

Pretty good, man.

[Tommy Pope]

Where'd you get to venison?

[Chris]

You can buy it now at, like, regular grocery stores.

[Tommy Pope]

I just have Rogan baby bird.

[Chris]

Well, so I would love that. Wild venison is probably way better than.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

The store bought. That's raised in a deer farm.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But I did have. I've had a couple POD listeners. One guy sent me elk steaks that eat from an elky shot. Yeah, that was awesome.

[Tommy Pope]

I got venison in my fridge right now from or freezer are from a farmer. Yeah.

[Francis]

Where did you get all that? What a grocery store?

[Chris]

I got all of it at Whole Foods.

[Francis]

You got the venison and Whole Foods?

[Chris]

The only thing. Yeah, yeah.

[Francis]

And the goo jung.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Ron]

And the ho.

[Tommy Pope]

He's nailing them.

[Chris]

They have, like, ethnic aisles.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But the problem, you can never find the things in there. So you have to find someone of the ethnicity who works at the restaurant Whole Foods to come tell you where those things are.

[Ron]

Interesting.

[Chris]

And they'll be like, oh, rice vinegar. Yeah, you got to get on your knees. It's all the way in the back here.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

The ethnic isles. Caribbean.

[Ron]

All right, well, thank you guys for listening. Tommy Pope, thank you so much for joining us.

[Tommy Pope]

I can't tell if that sucked.

[Ron]

No, that was great.

[Tommy Pope]

It was fine.

[Ron]

All right, we will see you guys next week.

[Francis]

We've never thought about any of our episodes from the second we get up.

[Tommy Pope]

Yeah.

[Francis]

So we just get up and then just don't. Don't ever think about it again.

[Chris]

It was good.

[Francis]

It was great.

[Tommy Pope]

I'll text you later.

[Chris]

This is very fast.

[Tommy Pope]

Was over still still underground. I looked on up to you came around.

[Chris]

So thank you.

[Tommy Pope]

I was only falling one way I was only falling away. Did you be alive? No one can take me alive I. Of. Sam. I.