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Francis
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Harry
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Francis
You're standing inside a secret prison. It houses the Nazi high command.
Harry
I'm going to put Herman Guring on trial. Sony Pictures Classics presents Nuremberg.
Francis
Starring Academy Award winner Russell Crowe, Academy.
Harry
Award winner Rami Malek, and Academy Award nominee Michael Shannon.
Rhone
Do you plead guilty or not? Guil.
Harry
Nuremberg opens only in theaters everywhere November 7th.
Francis
Sass, start us.
Harry
Okay, we get to go.
Rhone
Sweet. All righty.
Harry
Welcome back.
Rhone
All right, welcome back to the Son of a Boy dad podcast. Today, it's one. It's November 3rd. It's 1:50pm Rhone's voice, it sounds shockingly weird. So just a heads up, he wanted me to give a disclaimer.
Francis
Well, people might be like, why the fuck? But it's like, we have to record this because we're recording today. They're like, oh, wait a day. Well, we're recording tomorrow, and a podcast needs to come out tomorrow and where we have our big fishing trip this week.
Rhone
So you're gonna be like, we're completely no voice.
Francis
No, no, I'll be better.
Rhone
We'll see.
Francis
I'm already better than when I walked in the room.
Rhone
That's true.
Harry
You do sound better than.
Rhone
Yeah.
Francis
So fired up. I never know who's gonna walk through that door. It's like, damn, love is blind.
Rhone
Yeah, it is. But, yeah, we got our big week planned out. We're going upstate, going to Francis's place. Lots of big things on the way.
Harry
Can't wait to get back home.
Rhone
Can't wait to get back up there.
Francis
So nice to get back up there. What should I wear for fishing?
Harry
You need some warm stuff. Man, it's gonna be cold. Let's put it this way, it's 48 degrees colder up there than it is here.
Rhone
48. Two hour drive. I think that would mean, like, my from here to my apartment. And it would be like a degree change.
Francis
I mean, it's 48 degrees right now. You're saying it's zero degrees up there.
Harry
It's 300 miles away.
Rhone
So is it freezing up there?
Harry
It's 10 degrees colder.
Rhone
That's actually.
Francis
Can you wear sweatshirts?
Rhone
Significant.
Harry
It is significant while fishing.
Francis
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Guest or Minor Speaker
Yeah.
Rhone
You're going to have. You're going to need, like, a jacket.
Francis
But if it gets a little bit wet, like, do I need something that wicks?
Rhone
No.
Harry
Oh, you're not going to want a wick. You're going to want to fully.
Rhone
When we went full waterproof.
Harry
I don't think wicking is in the cards.
Rhone
So ideally, you don't want to get wet.
Harry
Yeah. You don't want to be John Wick over here.
Rhone
Like, you don't want your clothes to get wet because then they'll stay wet and they'll freeze if it's that cold.
Harry
Yeah, we got.
Francis
Yeah. I've never fit. I've never fished like this except for, like, off of a dock or on a boat.
Rhone
I don't think this is going to be, like. It's not going to be as bad as it was when you and Brandon did it. No, that was like. Snow was unbearable. Yeah. But that was the coldest, I think I've ever been.
Francis
Mm.
Rhone
Feet were frozen.
Harry
This won't be warm.
Francis
What about gloves? Do I need gloves?
Rhone
Occasionally you can throw on some fingerless gloves if you're, if you're really about that action.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
What about all the camera guys? Like, everybody's gonna be like. All of our producers are also gonna be in the river with us.
Rhone
We're gonna have to figure out that. Out they're gonna.
Harry
They can go across to the other bank. They can fight for the confederates. Yeah.
Rhone
Yeah. Cross the gap.
Francis
How. What's this river like?
Rhone
Wide, fast, really strong pull. Yeah. It's like the Hudson.
Harry
It's. It's definitely got some, Some tug on it.
Rhone
I'm excited, but scared it's not going to be, like. It won't be. There's no, like, risk involved.
Francis
I'm just scared to be spending that time. Like, I feel like we've talked about this so much that, like, I wanted to live up to my very, very, very, very, very high expectations.
Harry
I think the real treasury of time, the real wonderful moment, will be once the work is done.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
And then we can set aside our cameras and our affected personalities.
Francis
And be.
Harry
Ourselves, be who we truly are.
Rhone
I, I, I. I hope we catch A fish. I think. I think if we like that. When we talked to that dude last time, he said that there's big brown trout in there.
Harry
Big browns.
Rhone
So we'll see this this time of year all year round.
Francis
Okay.
Harry
Yeah.
Rhone
Brown trout don't move.
Harry
Yeah. Yeah.
Rhone
They stay local.
Harry
Yeah. Jim Brown's up there. Yeah, they. They are probably a little sleepier, Right?
Rhone
They might be a little sleepy, but actually, no. I think it's November 3rd in. Some people would say this is peak fly fishing.
Harry
Come on.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
Wow. I don't know how you think about this. I don't really see this as a competition.
Rhone
Not at all.
Harry
Because I'm gonna need your help. Yeah.
Rhone
I don't see it as competition.
Harry
I will fully admit that you are a vastly superior fisherman. Angler to me.
Rhone
Well, I think the only thing is I just know how to tie on the flies.
Harry
You're gonna fish?
Francis
Yeah. I'm, like, here to learn.
Harry
Good, good, good.
Francis
All right.
Rhone
Maybe we bring a spin rod out there. That might not be the worst idea.
Francis
Why? For my dumbass.
Rhone
Kind of. Yeah.
Harry
It's a training bike. Yeah.
Francis
Why don't we put the gutters up in the bowling lanes, too, the river.
Harry
And have them out there with a rake?
Francis
Yeah. Can I have a gun to shoot the fish?
Harry
Just walk out and just break them into a bucket.
Francis
Jesus Christ. Dude, I. I want to do it. I want to do it the big boy way. I'm not trying to do it in.
Rhone
The telling your spin rod would be.
Francis
That's actually so disrespectful.
Harry
We can look into us.
Rhone
I think just having one on deck, just in case you use it, then I'm. There's a chance I might. If it's. If it's tough fishing, you know, bringing the spin rod.
Francis
What does that mean?
Rhone
Throw a weighted treble hook on there and just snag the fish out of the water.
Francis
What is it?
Rhone
That's, like, a way that people catch salmon?
Harry
No, man. He just throws these terms out there. For all I know, he could be making this up. No.
Rhone
This is actually hilarious. People that. Have you ever seen the videos? People, like, in Anchorage fishing for salmon, and there's like, 70 of them lined up on the river.
Francis
Yeah.
Rhone
A lot of those guys don't even have, like, bait or. Or, like, a lure or a fly on. They just have a super heavy hook, and they cast it, and then they just yank it back as hard as they can, and they're just, like, pulling full salmon out of the river, like, by their, like, gills. The Hooks nowhere near. It's like the most way to fish.
Harry
Yeah, Very human.
Rhone
Pulling him in by the spine.
Francis
I mean, you are killing them. I'm excited, though. I think it'll be. I mean, I'm just really excited too, to see your. Your abode.
Harry
Oh, yeah. I'm stoked for you guys to come.
Francis
Will it be invasive to have us film in your abode?
Rhone
Well, they'll have to be some off limits areas.
Francis
Yeah. The sauna.
Rhone
The sauna.
Harry
I don't have a sauna. No, I'm. I'm more than happy to have people see the place. I'm proud of it. I've done all the decorating pretty much myself.
Francis
What's your best decoration?
Harry
Well, I had a banquette made.
Rhone
I don't even know what that is.
Harry
It's like a.
Francis
Is that like a. Yeah.
Guest or Minor Speaker
Oh.
Rhone
Oh, yeah.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
Your breakfast nook.
Harry
Yeah, my breakfast nook.
Rhone
Yeah. I'm sick.
Harry
And then I had this. Have I told you the story of the table?
Rhone
Of course. I was gonna say we should. That should be one of our competitions is who can live, who can drive the table?
Harry
I'm telling you, if we. If we knock this table over, it would go through to the basement, through the firmament. It would. It would be millions of dollars.
Francis
You have. You have insurance though.
Harry
I guess. I mean, I don't know if it's talking about like restructuring the entire building.
Rhone
I would love to see that thing.
Francis
Just go straight through.
Harry
Oh, Lordy.
Rhone
What about, like basement?
Francis
What about wall decorations?
Harry
Well, I. I am a little lacking in that. I. I have. I have a cool painting from Maine that I'm very fond of. It's called End of Day and it is a fish, A lobster boat that is pulling in the traps. And there is a beautiful dog sitting on the back. And it's by a main painter whose name I don't know, but that is something I'm very fond of.
Francis
Maybe we could go shopping at a. At an art bazaar and get you something for the walls.
Harry
Would make me happier than to allocate $20,000 for a piece of art that I get to keep on.
Francis
Son of a boy. Dad. Yeah.
Harry
Yeah, I'll store it up there for safekeeping because we don't have any more room on our walls.
Francis
Yeah, it doesn't look like we're fresh out. Or you could put that. That ticket stub up there if you want. That. That one rare ticket stub on your wall. But I think it's just going to be. We've been talking about this. I Mean, the boys trip is making it out of the group chat, so.
Rhone
Well, yeah, supposedly we got to wait till Wednesday to see if it actually.
Francis
Makes it out of the group.
Rhone
Boys recover properly from your illness.
Francis
Yeah, I got the illness. Spending time.
Rhone
Chance you guys wake up tomorrow and.
Francis
You'Re like, no, this is the. This is like the back end of it.
Rhone
We'll see. How could that even be possible? You had it. You got it yesterday.
Francis
No, I've been feeling it badly. And then it got worse. I spent time with Sat. I spent over an hour with him off camera.
Rhone
Which is your day.
Harry
Oh, that's right.
Rhone
You guys went to Snezenl.
Harry
That was it. Yeah. That was two days.
Francis
I'm sorry.
Harry
I want to hear all about it.
Rhone
Yeah, it was fun. It was. It was cool.
Harry
Awesome.
Rhone
It was cool.
Francis
Well, I spent time with Sass before beforehand, though, and we just like sat and talked and it's just. I feel like it's just like everything you ever wanted to do. We were like, basically like knee to knee, talking to each other.
Harry
Where we. Where we were at it.
Rhone
We went to a bar for maybe three minutes before we went over to the show.
Francis
It was amazing.
Harry
You guys pretty. Yes and no. No.
Rhone
It was like one of those where you. He had to get the check as he got his drink. We were there for five minutes.
Francis
It was amazing. He was telling me intimate secrets of his life.
Rhone
I believe it now.
Francis
And then we got to SNL and the fucking. The chatter continued.
Harry
Brother, listen, I'll tell you what. I struggled. I struggled with this. Can I read you. I'll. I'll. I'll protect a little bit of Harry, but I.
Rhone
Okay, I actually am curious.
Harry
I'm going to read you the.
Francis
You're curious about what? What you.
Rhone
I am curious to see your opinion on this.
Harry
I'm going to read you the text exchange that I had with Harry and I want to see how. I won't even preface it. Okay, I'm just going to read it to you and I want you to tell me what you think on Saturday at 4:38pm this is. Okay. I'm up state. I'm at my home.
Rhone
This is not good.
Harry
I go, would you go to the SNL after party tonight? He goes, I don't think so. It doesn't start until like 2am I went, last time it was cool, but it's a late night. I go, I can't do it. And he goes, who's hosting? And I go, I feel bad. I don't know. I go, I feel bad. Shane asked me to come and I don't like to not do anything he asks me to do, but I'm not really a 2am party guy. And then I'll skip a few things that you said here, but basically.
Rhone
Well, then we were just chopping it up.
Harry
He said. He said he's been to some SNL after parties. They're late and they make it hard to watch ball on Sunday. It ruins the whole day. And I go, hahaha, yeah, good, I needed to hear it. And he goes, did he ask you to go to the show or the.
Rhone
Well, there's a time gap there. No, it's about 30 minutes. You think? I haven't reviewed. Reviewed the tape.
Francis
Oh, wow.
Harry
So you knew.
Rhone
Yeah, that's why I was texting you.
Harry
But. But you knew this was coming.
Rhone
Oh, I explained it in the text.
Harry
All right. He's right. I said needed to hear it. And then, yeah, 30 minutes goes by. I don't know why that matters. And he goes, it's such a. It's such a small break that there's no, like, there's no, there's no gap.
Rhone
There's no gap, but there is a gap.
Harry
Did he ask you to go to the show or the party? I go, the party. If it were the show, I'd go.
Francis
With that tone of voice.
Harry
I go, I drive back for. It's so hard to get tickets to that.
Rhone
No, that is not how I was reading it in my head.
Harry
That's how I wrote it. And then he goes, he texted asking if I want to go to the rehearsal. I go, wow.
Francis
Because that's even harder.
Rhone
That is. That is what you said.
Harry
This is what being a good friend is.
Rhone
And then. But I had a good friend text.
Harry
Hold on. He goes, word. I just wanted to make sure that's not what you were asking me about earlier. And I was like, nah, fuck that. Don't go. And then I go, lol. All right. This is an incredibly important message because his heart is in the right place. Yeah. He's also aware of the breach of friendship that would come from him dissuading me.
Rhone
Oh, absolutely.
Harry
From going to sn, coming back into the city to go to this SNL thing, only for him to then go, right. He's aware.
Rhone
Yes.
Harry
Of the evil.
Francis
Oh, he's very duplicitous.
Harry
That is Lace.
Rhone
That's why I was texting to that. Yeah.
Francis
Because you're bulwarking against the evil.
Rhone
No, no, because I was like, I could see how this could appear.
Harry
I go, no, No, I got invited to the after party. That's what he told me to come to. I go, the rehearsal is way cooler. You should go. And I go. He goes, yeah, I think I'm going to go. I think I'm going to go. I said, yes. And it's been silent since. Who knows? And then I go, do you have his assistance? Since he wasn't getting feedback, I go, do you have his assistance number? She's the one to talk to. And then I sent him her contact info.
Francis
Wow.
Harry
I'm now trying to facilitate and ensure. See, this is where my friend Harry.
Rhone
I might have not reviewed the tapes to this point.
Harry
That my friend Harry has nothing that could thwart this.
Rhone
At this point, I was on the biggest Call of Duty show known.
Harry
Wait, wait, wait, don't, don't bury the lead. After I send the assistance number, he goes, I can't go. Lol. Literally the worst possible timing. I go, ah, shows. He goes, worse. Call of Duty podcast with these dudes who are massive. And it ends at 6:45 and the SNL rehearsal, you have to get there at 6:45 LOL. And it's live and they already promote, so I can't move it. But he said he'll see if he can get me into the real one. If not, all good. I'm just happy to be considered. Haha. I go, unreal. Enjoy. And then two hours later, I'm going to the show.
Rhone
And I said, and I finished reading.
Harry
I'm going to the show. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to go to the after party still. But if you were on the fence about it, I'd go, it's now 8:45pm I know. I mean, drinking. Six hours I've been drinking. I'm two hours away. I can't drive back. I go, I'm not going to go. I didn't get the show. Look. Haha. So basically, Harry. The way I read this is that Harry was aware of not wanting to dissuade me from something that he would then go to. Right, of course. And he did a good job of that. And, and, and put that in. And then I was like, all right, yeah, no, I mean I can't go. And he's like, okay, well I'm not going to go to the even cooler thing I got invited to because I have this commitment. And then two hours later he's like, not only am I, not only am I going now, but I'm going to the show. And then the next thing I hear about this is Ian fighting, tagging me in a photo of you two, Shane Miles and Ian Finance on the main stage at SNL. And I'm like. I look, I'm going. It's like 10 photos. So I'm like, all right, well, where's the one of me? And why would I. Why would I be in this? And there's not a single one of me. And then we. I get a text from Shane in our little group that's like, great hanging, boys. And I thought he was trolling because I thought you hadn't gone. I thought you didn't go. And I knew I hadn't gone. And I thought it was him being sarcastic, being like, I come to New York and the three of you won't be able to hang out with me.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
Come to find.
Francis
Well, he was trolling, but in a different way.
Harry
Come to find that Harry pretty much talked me out of college. No, no, no, no.
Francis
To the cooler thing and the after party. And I have one more picture to show you.
Harry
And you went to the after party, too.
Rhone
I went to the after party.
Harry
That. To that question. That's the answer to that question. You have no ground to stand on. Every single part of this was a scheme.
Rhone
It was not.
Harry
You exclude me.
Francis
Before you say anything else, look at this picture.
Rhone
What is it?
Harry
Is that him?
Francis
His hand.
Harry
He's shaking.
Francis
No, no, no, the other hand.
Harry
Oh, my God. Is that an alcoholic beverage?
Rhone
Oh, no, no, that was. That was actually. I was trolling Roan.
Harry
I don't know what to believe from you. Anyway.
Rhone
No, that was an na. But it had. There was the same beer that everyone else was drinking, so Rome was like, oh, shit. He let me. He let me slip off the wagon like that.
Harry
I don't know anymore.
Francis
This.
Harry
Look, I think that here. Here's the thing. Through that exchange, you can tell that I am somebody who doesn't. Luckily, at this point in my life, suffered too much from fomo. I've learned ways to combat that, of course, and it comes really from one. What is. What is. What happened? A friend of mine featured in a great spot on snl. And then two of my other friends got to go witness that and share that experience. The only thing that in my mind could have made that whole thing better is if I had been there with you all.
Rhone
I agree.
Harry
Short of that, that's ideal.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
That is an ideal night for my friends that I'm thrilled about.
Francis
The only thing that could have made it better for you is if EM Finance hadn't gone.
Harry
Well, I don't really know why he tagged me. And then I messaged him and I went, haha. Why did you tag me in this? And he goes, it was a joke they were all making and I wanted to feel part of the joke, so I did it. And I was like, did you just say that out loud? Like, you just said exactly the truth behind, like, kind of whatever, anyway. But I was, I was very happy. I was really happy that you guys all got to experience this. I really was. I. That is how I feel now at this point in my life. I, like, fundamentally I want my friends to have good things, good nights. And I've also learned that, you know, the good nights for which I am absent will come again. They will, of course.
Francis
Well, I think one thing that we're ignoring here is there's a great puppeteer at place in all of this, and that's the guy that gave us all three different invites to different parts of it, who also might listen to this show and enjoy if we butt ram heads with one another.
Harry
You know, I totally misunderstood his invitation to me. I, he, he threw it out there and I kind of felt like he threw it out. And then he was like, actually, let me check on that. Like, that was how I read it. So I then when he, as soon as he sent that, I didn't want him to be in a weird spot.
Francis
You thought he was walking it back.
Harry
It's the day of his big appearance. I don't want him checking with producers and random people if, hey, can I get one more guy? And I don't want to be that guy. So I immediately was like, don't worry about it, you know, well, another time. Whatever. I'm drinking. I can't even drive anyway.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
So then, you know, come to find that, like, he was, I think you would have been there, bummed out a little bit that I wasn't there. I mean, I'm not gonna go that far, but like, you know, we talked.
Rhone
About you for like half the night.
Francis
Probably basically all we were talking about.
Harry
I don't even know what to say to that. But, but my point is I, I was happy for, for all of that.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
That you guys got to do that.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
It's hard for me to look back on our messages, Harry, and not wonder what sinister shit I literally play. I literally fucking mind. I have a screen text message from you at 6:45. I'm not going. I can't go. And then two hours later, not only am I going, I'm going to the.
Rhone
Actual well in my Defense with that.
Francis
And the after party.
Rhone
In my defense with that, we didn't. I didn't know I was going to the show until I texted you, you.
Francis
Know, who was at the after.
Rhone
But look at this. See, I screenshotted this. What that was you saying, Needed to hear it, and then him saying, you want to go to SNL right after.
Harry
So I was like, yeah, whatever.
Rhone
It's a tough. It's a tough spot.
Harry
You know, I think that in. In. If the roles were reversed, knowing you as I do, my guess would be that if you found out at 8:45 that I was going to the taping of SNL, you would have called the security of guards at 30 Rock and issued a bomb threat so that the show could not happen. Because if you can't have it, God knows.
Francis
No.
Harry
Not let anyone else.
Rhone
No, no, I wanted you to be there. We all wanted you to be there. See?
Harry
First class.
Francis
Wow.
Rhone
You never replied to my. My DM this morning.
Harry
Yeah, I was a little mad. I wasn't mad that I wasn't there. I was. I was mad that I. I felt like you. I felt a little bit like you had done it on purpose.
Rhone
No, I never would do that.
Francis
It's hard.
Rhone
You also, you got the call before.
Harry
Me, but that's all separate because as I said, I totally misunderstood. Like, I thought I was, you know, trying to be helpful, but by the way, you know, awesome with all that joking aside or whatever, mostly serious with Harry. A joke. Tell me about it.
Francis
Well, at the after party, Dua Lipa was there, and she was literally, like, looking around for a man.
Harry
She's married.
Rhone
She was with her husband.
Harry
Oh, that guy's also the man.
Rhone
Yeah, I think he's, like, a billionaire British.
Harry
He's, like, super handsome.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
His name's Callum, I think. Right.
Rhone
I don't know, but I didn't see her. I never saw Dua Lipa.
Francis
But in all seriousness, at the afterparty, Sass went up to Lauren and was like, I'm the next best decision you'll ever make. Just shook his hand, put his hand out.
Harry
I did.
Rhone
I did joke about saying that, but it was cool. It was cool. The. A lot of waiting, a lot of sitting around.
Francis
Don't try. Don't try to make it seem like it was less cool.
Rhone
No, I'm not. I'm giving the rundown of what happened.
Harry
That's patronizing, too. Yeah.
Francis
You're like, oh, no, it wasn't that fun. We were rubbing elbows with Seth Rogen. It wasn't even that fun.
Rhone
That was cool. But we went, we went, we go to the show. Show's cool. My favorite part was just seeing everything be like happening in real time.
Harry
Yeah, that's what I've always wanted.
Rhone
Yeah. Like, it was cool watching, like they're like, they come out, they do like a song, then they have like Marcelo did like a warm up act and then they.
Francis
Marcelo Hernandez, right?
Rhone
Marcelo from snl.
Francis
From the snl.
Rhone
SNL show.
Harry
Yeah, yeah, the one I've always wanted to go to the live taping.
Francis
Yes. It was cooling.
Harry
It was cool. I mean, were you guys sitting down on the floor?
Rhone
No, that's where they put the real fans. Like the Die Hards and the people that waited online. I don't think so.
Francis
We watched it from a sliding door in Lauren's office. Like at the Blue Jays stadium. How the hotel like butts right up against it in the boxes.
Rhone
We were like, we were in the nosebleeds for sure. But we, in terms of the nosebleed seats, I want to say we were lucky because there were central people that straight up must. It must have just been like if you were listening to SNL being filmed.
Harry
Oh yeah.
Rhone
Like there, there were. There's hanging from the ceilings, like in here. But it's snl, so there's cameras and lights from every. Like. It was right in front of their faces. Yeah, but that was. It was sick. The muse, the band was sick. I actually think that was the coolest part was the, the actual SNL band. Yeah, they'd like do a whole 30 minute performance before the show.
Francis
You know, the red haired lady that's behind the saxophone player that's always there. We all hate the one that never forced to hate.
Harry
To be honest, I. I haven't looked that closely.
Rhone
The one that didn't laugh when Shane did his monologue. And then people were like, find her and kill her.
Francis
Oh yeah. She's like a sick guitarist and singer. She's like the lead. Lead of the band. Yeah. Very talented.
Harry
Wow.
Rhone
Yeah. So that's cool.
Francis
And then afterwards we were. We were like both at the after party and we were about to leave, like, should we get out of here? And then Shane left Lauren and they came up and like hung out with us. Then Cam Patterson came up, we're talking to him. And then a magician came up and started blasting us with magic in like real time.
Harry
This just keeps getting better.
Francis
Your exact dream. And then he was like going around being like, okay, like say like Google a celebrity to Cam Patterson. And he like, Google someone Put his phone away. And then he's like, okay, like, you let me see your phone. And then, like, Seth Rogen came up, and he's like, all right, Seth, let me see your phone. And Seth Rogen's like, oh, no, I don't do that.
Harry
So the guy was a mental. Like, one of them.
Francis
He's a mentalist.
Harry
Yeah, I've seen one of those guys.
Rhone
He did some, though. It was insane. He did. He did the where. Like, he asked Cam Patterson for, like, who his celebrity crush was, and he had him, like, look it up on his phone. It's all. But the thing that is cool about those guys is it's all the performance. It's not like, the trick. It's like their lead. Like, there was multiple tricks where everyone's like, this guy's a idiot. Like, the magician. And then it all.
Harry
Yeah, right, of course.
Rhone
And it's like, no, obviously he was never gonna be wrong. Like, he wasn't gonna walk into that circle with the idea of him being wrong in his head.
Harry
This guy isn't learning on the go.
Francis
He's doing real magic, accomplished.
Rhone
It was pretty cool, though, because it's like.
Francis
Because he pulled out the phone and it was his Instagram bio, and it said, like, I know you were going to say Aaliyah or Zendaya.
Rhone
You were gonna say Zendaya. And that's what Cam Patterson had on his phone. It was his bio on Instagram.
Harry
I, I, I've had this.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
Did I talk about it on the pod?
Rhone
No, I don't think so.
Francis
It's infuriating.
Harry
I had a guy that. You know what?
Rhone
Actually, Was it O's? Was it O's?
Harry
No.
Rhone
Have you seen that guy?
Harry
No, but he's the best.
Rhone
Yeah, he's the white whale.
Harry
He's the king of it all.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
He has spawned a genre of magic. There are aspiring mentalists. Yeah.
Francis
That's what this guy was. He was like a party mentalist.
Harry
Yeah.
Rhone
Party.
Harry
Was he. Was he, like, shorter and bald?
Francis
No, I've seen that guy, though. He did our company party when I.
Harry
Did my golf member guest.
Rhone
Oh, really?
Harry
Yeah. And what he did, he was unbelievable.
Rhone
Did he do, like, any of.
Harry
He did a thing where he went around the room and was like, all right, I want you to put in to the calculator app on my phone. I want you to put in your last four digits of your social or something. And the guy did, and he was like, by the way, everybody, I want you pulling out your calculator apps as well. So we all around the room had our calculator apps open, and he put. He tells us the number to put in. Then he's like, all right, somebody, what's your birthday? The guy's like, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, okay, put in, you know, 04 12, 1982.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
And then he's like, blah, blah, blah. Your phone number. Put in this thing. Put in this. It's like the most random numbers. And he's like, just to make sure we're all not. I'm not just selecting people I already know. Like, you point at someone else that you want me to ask and. And you can ask any number or something. The guy's like, hey, give me your. Whatever, last three digits of your credit card. And the guy's like, all right, we're just going to add all these numbers. And he adds them all together. And he looks. And it's like some huge number. It's like, whatever, you know, 7 billion 200 and whatever. Something like that. And he's like, that's kind of a weird number, but if you look at your time on your phone right now, isn't it Aug 27th of 2025 at 8:15pm yeah. And that was the. Yeah.
Rhone
I don't like it.
Harry
In the absolute fucking.
Francis
Yeah, that's.
Rhone
I don't.
Harry
How did he do the timing of the joke to have it land on the exact minute?
Rhone
I don't know.
Harry
How did all those numbers add to this, do you think?
Rhone
In their head? Are they so confident? Like, I've done this so many times, obviously it's going to work? Or you think in the back of their head, they're like, better go. Okay, we got. Got two seconds to work with here.
Francis
Ask him faster. What is his number? What's his credit card?
Rhone
Like that, dude, like, if you're doing your magic to Shane and Seth Rogen in your head, would you not be like, I fucking pray this works? Like, what if it.
Francis
Yeah. They have such a big audience of people. They can tell that I suck.
Rhone
Yeah.
Francis
Imagine if Seth Rogen puts it in the next movie that I suck at. Or at.
Rhone
He's the inspiration for the dumb magician. Yeah. The dumb mentalist. The mental retard.
Francis
Oh, God.
Rhone
Because that really is, like, the only scenarios there are. You look so, so sick and like a magician. Or you look like the biggest dumbass of all time. If it up. But I've never seen it up, which makes me believe that I've seen them.
Francis
Up a little bit. But they always had. They have ways out if there is ups. Like, I think they, like, tried to. Or like the one. The card was wrong for Shane or something like that.
Rhone
But it wasn't.
Harry
But.
Francis
No, but then it was under. Then it was under his watch.
Rhone
Yeah, but I was a part of it.
Francis
But it. But he might have did that last second because he got it wrong.
Rhone
It was a part of it. He goes, is this your card?
Harry
No.
Rhone
And then he goes. He's like, oh, but it's this one, isn't it? No. And then we're all like, this clown. And then he goes, oh, is it the one that's under your watch? And then it's under Shane's watch.
Harry
Yeah, that's cool.
Rhone
I don't think that's a up.
Harry
That also doesn't sound so much. That wasn't mental.
Rhone
That was a little different. That was more sleight of hand.
Francis
That was a bit of sleight of hand.
Rhone
But the one where the ones where it's like. Like the ones that O's does. Where it's like, yeah. Open the envelope and it's got everything that you were thinking of in your head. I don't know how that's even possible.
Harry
He goes and does like a NFL football team in preseason.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
The defensive backs quit now they've seen Witchcraft and they can't be near it anymore.
Rhone
It's like. It's like the actual reaction team goes 500. Yeah. Those videos are awesome.
Harry
Yeah.
Rhone
Watching dudes get, like, genuinely pissed. They'll get him out of here.
Francis
Well, I used to, like, at first, you want to, like. You want to debunk the guy like the first time you see it, and then by, like, the second. The second time someone's like that, you're just like, yeah, that's exactly my card. Like, you don't. You just want to go along for the ride? Of course they're gonna get it right. Like, you want to, like, make it tough for them or be like, be, like, clever back.
Harry
So while you guys were doing everything I've always hoped and dreamed of doing.
Francis
Yeah. With all your heroes, don't forget.
Harry
Yeah. I was upstate having a quiet weekend. And on how we actually was Saturday, they did a major Halloween procession. And they did. They put on a. Like a haunted walk through the woods. Oh, it was deep in the woods.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
You had to drive a golf cart way up the hill. And then you start at the. At the base or whatever. And apparently from like 6 to 8pm they had sort of a PG version of this for kids and stuff. No talk and then from like 8 to 9, it was like adults only.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
And I was like, all right, how bad can it be? You know? And I went with three guys from the golf staff. And we got up there and there was a woman at the front and she had like a seven or eight year old girl with her. I don't know if it was her daughter or someone. Maybe it was some. The girl was dressed up in a spooky way, probably as some sort of like part of the act.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
But she was out at the front at this time and the woman was like giving me or us the instructions and being like, all right, I'm gonna give you guys flashlights and like, you know, if you don't. If you go in and you don't come out, after a little while, we're gonna send in a search party after you. And the little girl went, what's a search party? And I go, it's what comes when there's an Amber Alert. And she goes, what's an Amber Alert? And the woman was like, let's not get. And the.
Francis
My name's Amble.
Rhone
Oh, she actually said that.
Harry
She goes, let's not get into Amber Alerts.
Rhone
That's crazy.
Francis
So she's going to have to learn, lady.
Harry
Yeah. We went in and this thing was fucking terrifying. Absolutely terrifying.
Rhone
And it's just in the woods.
Harry
Yeah. You know, every 40 yards you come upon a new thing.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
And the first thing you come upon, I mean, you're like, it's like a. A little girl in a swing.
Rhone
Oh, that's creepy.
Harry
And she's like, have you seen my mommy? And you're like, no.
Rhone
Is she the one working?
Harry
Does anyone know her?
Guest or Minor Speaker
Yeah.
Harry
And she's like, me neither. And then like, you keep walking, she gets off the swing and she starts like skipping behind you at a distance. So you have someone following you there.
Rhone
Is it an actual little girl or is it like. Yeah, it's so creepy.
Harry
Then you get. Then you come across like. Then they have like whatever, six or seven sort of statues.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
And you're walking through. And of course one of them is an actual person that's like still. And then as you get close, it's like, yeah. You're like, oh, whoa.
Francis
Yeah.
Harry
Then it, it becomes, you know, you walk through these. There's like sheets on either side of you so you can't see what's to the left and to the right. And you're walking through this narrow area and someone on the other side is like, help, Help.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
You know, and then like blood splatters against the sheet. And then like a major truck horn honks and scares the out of you. You're just on edge the whole time.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
And it's like there's a lot of circus theme.
Rhone
Clowns.
Harry
I don't know. When circus became creepy, carnival became like the pillar of horror.
Rhone
I don't know.
Francis
Clowns, I think, had a big part of it.
Rhone
John Wayne Gacy.
Harry
Who is John Wayne Gacy?
Rhone
Serial killer. But he was a clown.
Harry
That's where all that came from.
Rhone
I just.
Francis
I always assume, I think like, Pennywise is like, yeah, that was in this.
Harry
That was Stephen king in what, the 80s or 70s. They made that movie.
Rhone
I think, now that I think about it, that came out way before John Wayne Casey killed anybody.
Harry
Carnival and. And sort of Carney and. And thing as horror.
Francis
I think that there was always part of carnival that was like fun house mirrors. I think that that kind of played on people's fear.
Harry
Now it seems to be the true driving force more than, you know, say, werewolves or like.
Rhone
I think it's just scarier. Like, if you like. Like seeing like a skeleton isn't really scary anymore.
Francis
Why?
Rhone
Because I. When I think of a skeleton, I just think of like the animations from, like, kids horror movies. There's something rattling their female.
Harry
The sort of thin line between fake laughter and merriment and darkness. Yeah, that works like peanut butter and jelly.
Francis
You know, it's almost like. It's like little girls and women that are like the scary now.
Rhone
Yeah. And clowns.
Francis
And clowns. Yeah.
Rhone
I don't think if. I think if I was walking through the woods and I saw an actual skeleton, I'd be like, oh, you need directions, buddy? Yeah.
Harry
We came upon a guy who. He had a table with a bucket of candy in the front. He was dressed up. I don't remember what he's part of.
Rhone
This is still part of the act.
Harry
And he goes, take a piece of. And I was like, actually, because I'm unlike some. He's like, take, take a piece. And I went to grab one and he had an axe. Oh, a real ax. Oh. And he. As I grabbed one piece, he slammed it down a foot from my hand into the table, splintering the table, and go. Just one scared the out of me.
Rhone
How often do you think those people up just hit someone straight in the hand?
Harry
Time to move. Yeah. Guess we're going back to Arizona. So hot there, even on Halloween.
Rhone
This costume, I mean, it's got to be a thing.
Harry
Yeah.
Rhone
It's not like those guys are like insured. Yeah, top of the industry. This is the best act swinger known to man.
Francis
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Francis
They scream and shit.
Harry
I'm talking about, like, going out. No, no. I'm talking dressing up and going to, like, adult Halloween parties with these people don't have kids. So, like, women who put together a sexy outfit.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
And there's a lot of men that do it, too. But, like, I checked out a Halloween bout.
Francis
Yeah, but you can't feed your Instagram the same way they can.
Harry
Fine.
Francis
They have carte blanche to be slutty as hell.
Harry
You're right. You're absolutely right. And I tweeted about it and it. It really. It was like my whole feed is like, you know, adorable families with really funny and cute coordinated kids outfits, which I like that. That makes me laugh and tickles my soul. And I like that.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
And then all of a sudden, it's whore.
Rhone
Yeah.
Francis
Yeah.
Harry
Who are just cleavage that is mashed together with some kind of like.
Rhone
It's a show of force, you know?
Harry
Yeah. Yeah. Still got it.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
Don't forget about me.
Francis
There's no subtlety.
Harry
It's.
Francis
Yeah, it's.
Harry
That's all.
Rhone
It's a show for the horse.
Francis
Yeah. I still got it.
Harry
I'm like. I'm like. Does this really do it for you, though? Because. Because it's so. It just so. It's so theatrical and so. So put on.
Rhone
I feel like. I will say this year felt like this was the only year on Halloween I didn't do anything. I was just hanging out in my apartment.
Harry
You normally do stuff? No, no.
Rhone
I was gonna say this was the only year that I felt like, am I. A loser for not because. I think it was. Because it was on a Friday.
Harry
Okay.
Rhone
It was like, this city was like.
Harry
Everyone on both weekends on either side of. Hello. Yeah.
Francis
And there's the parade.
Rhone
And there's the parade.
Francis
And it's in your neighborhood. Yeah.
Harry
I got out of the fact that this city this weekend was Halloween and the marathon.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
Talk about two groups of people that I want nothing to do with.
Rhone
Dude, I was. I was. This morning, I went to the deli and I walked by a pack of people, and they all had the metal on.
Harry
Yeah.
Rhone
Guys put it away.
Harry
Worse than the metal. Worse than the metal is the space blanket. Oh, yeah. They wrap themselves in. They've been rescued from a fire.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
They're out on the curb like.
Rhone
Like Captain Phillips.
Harry
See how it started, you know?
Francis
Yeah, that's. But. But the metal shows this.
Harry
You paid for this.
Rhone
You had to enter a lottery to get into this.
Francis
The medal the next day, though, is so egregious. It's for braggarts only.
Rhone
It is, but I feel like I probably would be rocking it if I did it.
Francis
No, you would not. You're a humble guy.
Rhone
I feel like just, you know, flash it on Instagram and then be done. Yeah, it goes in. It goes in the safe.
Francis
Well, you were nice. I mean, I. I think that that's a very good observation. And you even reached out. You're like, this isn't about you, by the way.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
It's like, dude, I don't care.
Harry
I also thought, like, that is where Lewis Black did a joke about this, where he goes. He goes, if you're an adult and you're thinking about dressing up for Halloween, don't. He goes, it's a. It's a. It's a holiday for children. And to that end, I will say that when you have young kids and, you know, you do a coordinated family outfit, I fucking love that. Yeah, that is. That's the spirit of Halloween, big time. Look at us. Like, you guys thought about. About that you did something cool. It was great. And I don't. I like all the families, especially if it's like, little kids, you know, I do think that when you have like 8 or 9 year olds who are pretty much almost capable of trick or treating on their own and you go with them in full costume, that's.
Francis
That's a little attention seeking starting to blur the line. Yeah, it's a little attention seeking.
Rhone
I mean, it's got to suck living in, like, growing up in the city, you probably go trick or treating with Your parents until you're like 17.
Francis
No, there's like junk that's all 15 year olds in Pooh Shiesties that have no costume on in the city. There are people outside. I went to Brooklyn Heights to walk around.
Harry
That's the. That's the Mecca.
Rhone
Is that the premier location?
Francis
It's the epicenter.
Rhone
King size only.
Francis
And the main thing that you go down is this one road that's completely blocked off.
Harry
And they're like, garden place.
Francis
Paul Rudd's out there. They're like, paul Rudd is.
Rhone
Yeah, you told me about that.
Francis
And Paul Rudd is like sitting outside and it's like, oh, we gotta go by Paul Rudd's house. And I was like, excited. And then I caught wind of him and it was like, really sad because, like, there's a huge line of kids. Other houses don't have this line. And then right behind it, it's a bigger, like, radius of parents just taking pictures. Zooming in on Paul Rudd as he's giving out candy. Dressed up as Post Malone with, like, his head down. Just, like giving out candy. Like, not. Not ashamed, but just like, have some decency and like, don't exploit me on the night. I'm trying to do one thing as like a neighborhood guy. I was like, we're not even going to his house. Like, it's too exploitative. I felt bad for him.
Harry
I'm surprised he was there and not at his place upstate, which is near my place, where you can avoid all of that.
Rhone
I'm surprised he didn't just leave out a bucket.
Francis
Yeah, yeah.
Harry
You know, Rogan was there.
Francis
I mean, those. That's his brother.
Rhone
He was supposed to be, but he was too tuckered out from trick or treating.
Harry
Yeah. I've given out candy. Brooklyn Heights. I lived with that family there for a year. And then we would go sit on the stoop and give out candy. And it was really fun. Except for the fact that there are kids, as you put it, like 14 year olds.
Rhone
Yeah. Who are New York kids.
Harry
They've got like a bandana on.
Rhone
Yeah.
Francis
One of them has a mask. And the rest of them have, like.
Harry
They take their. They take their backpack and they just turn it around and wear it on the front open and they go. They come up in their trick or treat and it's like, are you. You're stockpiling to, like, feed yourself for the next six months. These kids do laps and you get to a point where you're like, I've seen. You are.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
And I would say that I'd Be like, I. I'm not giving you more.
Rhone
I would pay so much money to see that.
Harry
Not only are you not trying with your costume, not only are you way too fucking old for this, but you're. You're going for thirds. It's the third time.
Francis
I see you gotta have a different candy bowl for them. You know what I mean? You got to be giving them the twist.
Harry
Here's a Hershey's Kiss.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
Here's a piece of candy.
Rhone
Small races.
Francis
No. Small reasons are good. True.
Rhone
You don't want to give those out.
Francis
Those are. You got to give them the shitty candy. What's, like, the worst candy?
Rhone
There's, like, anything with coconut in it.
Francis
I used to think that. And I had an Almond Joy the other day, and it was good.
Rhone
Good Almond Joy shouldn't even be around.
Francis
I. I used to think that that's a very, like, 30s candy. But I tried it, and it was pretty good.
Rhone
I think the best part about Halloween now is just like, I was munching candy all night. No shame.
Harry
You feel like you can.
Rhone
You have to. It's like you're. You're a piece of if you don't.
Harry
Yeah, yeah.
Rhone
Jolly Ranchers, chocolate Oreos.
Francis
Give me the. I don't. I. I don't want, like, fruity candy. I need the chocolatey on Halloween.
Rhone
That's. See, that's. That's, I think, why I never really loved Halloween growing up.
Harry
Well, the chocolatey candy is the protein.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
It's. The other is the vegetables.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
So you should have both, but you don't need to have them on top of each other.
Rhone
It does feel that way.
Harry
Salad course of Mike and Ikes, and then you move on to your roast chicken of, you know, Mike and X.
Francis
I could do without.
Rhone
Oh, I love Mike and I.
Harry
And the red Mike and I. The pink ones.
Rhone
I think the green one. The green is my favorite.
Harry
Citrus guy.
Rhone
I love a citrus.
Francis
What happened to hot tamales? I feel. Or what? Or red hot. What are the red? Mike and Ikes that were spicy.
Rhone
Yeah. Everyone decided that they sucked.
Francis
Yeah, I like those.
Harry
The government used them to pave roads in China.
Rhone
They didn't sell any of them.
Francis
That's what RFK just had to add to grind against that. Specifically. I gotta pee and do something about my voice for a second.
Rhone
All right. Good luck.
Harry
Yeah.
Rhone
Have fun with that. So what do you think about Tetris?
Harry
Yeah, we could do that.
Rhone
I think that's a great idea.
Francis
Okay.
Rhone
I started the Tetris movie last night. You seen it?
Harry
Actually I watched some of it and I should have watched more because it was. I was enjoying it.
Rhone
It's like.
Harry
Yeah.
Rhone
I didn't know how thrilling it was going to be.
Harry
It's. It's pretty good. It's similar. It came out right around the time of that movie about blackberries.
Rhone
Yeah. Yeah.
Harry
BlackBerry phone. And I watched that instead and thought, I don't know if I can do another.
Rhone
You didn't like the BlackBerry movie?
Harry
No, I liked that very much.
Francis
Movie was.
Harry
After that. I wasn't in the mood to go back to back.
Rhone
Tech.
Harry
Tech origin story.
Rhone
Yeah. I feel that. I didn't know it. I didn't know it started in Russia, though. That's pretty sick. Tetris.
Harry
Yeah, I forgot about that.
Rhone
It started in Russia with Roan gone.
Harry
It's just reminding me how angry I am with you. He was the buffer.
Rhone
I don't even know. I. I feel. I feel like I tried my best.
Harry
You did the opposite of everything you said.
Rhone
I know, I know. But I tried as hard as I could.
Harry
You went to the after party.
Rhone
The after party. I will say I wasn't there for long.
Harry
It doesn't matter.
Rhone
I had to. It wasn't a choice.
Harry
A complete.
Rhone
Rome was hammered. I had to take. I had to make sure he wasn't going to be a fool.
Harry
Come on. Actually.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
Really?
Rhone
He was standing up during the filming of the show. They had to be like, sit the down.
Harry
No way. No. Oh, okay.
Francis
Good bit.
Harry
It was.
Rhone
It was killer. Yeah, he. He was. Have you ever seen Roan drunk?
Harry
Yeah, he's pretty demure.
Rhone
Yes. He gets drunk.
Harry
Yeah. Fine. But he. Yeah, he's like me. Like, you don't really.
Rhone
You don't know.
Harry
It's not that you don't know necessarily, but you're not worried about us.
Rhone
Oh, you got to see him when he's at his. When he's at his peak potential, you.
Harry
Get really drunk and that you're a liability. That's what he's saying. I was like, you're very demure. In my.
Francis
In my experience, when was I ever a liability?
Rhone
Well, you probably don't even remember.
Francis
Are you talking about the Yankees game?
Harry
No.
Francis
Where I, like, joked. I was like, oh, with my friends. Like, let me joke with my friends. And then, like, him.
Rhone
We're not even talking about the Yankees again.
Francis
KB all held it against me for the rest of my life. Which time are you talking about?
Rhone
We're talking about it. Snl. When you. They had to remove you from the studio because you wouldn't stop Yelling during the show.
Francis
I set off a flare during the show.
Harry
He tried to say that the only reason that he went to the after party was to make sure that. That you didn't like, blow up because you were so drunk.
Francis
Yeah.
Harry
And I was like, that is not my experience.
Francis
At all. Sass is such a scumbag.
Harry
Placid drunks. I'm the same way. I am someone like that, which I think is a superpower.
Rhone
You get shit faced.
Francis
I'm a marathon. I can marathon drink and be like, pretty.
Harry
I can be the drunkest that I am. I can be as drunk as humanly possible for me, which. The next step for me is throwing up. I don't black out.
Rhone
You just throw up.
Harry
I just throw up. And then. But I will not. I won't be like fighting people or like breaking or saying racial slurs or whatever. You know what I mean?
Francis
I say racial slurs just as much sober.
Harry
I'm not antagonistic.
Francis
I don't have to get drunk.
Harry
I'm not emotional. I'm just. I'm trying to convince people I'm not that.
Rhone
Yeah. Yeah.
Harry
And therefore I focus very hard on. On my addiction.
Francis
Yeah.
Rhone
I feel like I used to think I was like that, and then I realized I wasn't like, you caught video of yourself. Yeah, I was like, I. No one can even tell when I'm drunk.
Francis
And then you saw one case race.
Rhone
Yeah. And I was like, everyone knows when I'm. When I've had one beer.
Harry
I think a part of it is. Is learned.
Rhone
Yeah, probably.
Harry
It's like getting in shape.
Rhone
Yeah. Work out that muscle. It's like drunk driving.
Francis
Sure. Are we drinking upstate?
Harry
Yeah, we should. We should do.
Francis
We don't have to.
Harry
No, I. Of course I will. I would like to.
Francis
We could. We could keep it off the. We could put on the leaf if you want.
Harry
I have a cocktail I'm dying to try to make, which comes from Friday, Saturday, Sunday in Philadelphia. And it.
Rhone
Was that a bar?
Harry
Yeah, it's a restaurant bar, but they have a cocktail there. I think I've mentioned.
Rhone
Have we been there? Is that where we went before the out of order show last year?
Harry
No, no, no. That place that never brought out your food. No, that was not this place. This place is awesome. And there's a guy. There's a. The lead bartender there invented a cocktail, and I think it's called the Ambassador's delight. And I DM'd the restaurant for the recipe.
Rhone
Really?
Francis
Is there egg white involved?
Harry
No.
Rhone
Did they give you the full. They just Gave you the recipe?
Harry
Well, they. They did give me the recipe, but then they were like, you have to make a. A wine shrub which requires some work. And they were like, in order to figure out how he does that, you need to buy this cookbook. And I bought the cookbook, really? Which is called the Last Call. It's like, if the bar every. A bunch of famous bartenders around the country to make one cocktail, what would they make? And it has his recipe in there.
Rhone
So what is the drink?
Francis
Yeah. What's in it?
Rhone
Or is it.
Francis
Or what's the base?
Rhone
I think it's Weintraub Wine shrub. No.
Francis
Isn't that the. The AT T lady's real name? Melissa Weintraub. You know who else was at snl? Flow from Progressive.
Rhone
I never saw her either.
Francis
Did you hear people talking about it?
Rhone
I just heard everyone be like, that was flow.
Harry
It's rum, cognac, mulled wine shrub, Averna, and then habanero tincture.
Rhone
Habanero tincture. Is that. Is there alcohol in that or.
Harry
Don't worry about it. You're sober.
Rhone
True. I feel like we could make a non alcoholic.
Harry
I don't want to include you in my life anymore. Actually, I actually had this thought. I was. I was driving in today and I was. I was like, just pissed off at the world.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
And I was. I thought about it. I actually thought about this. I was like, I don't really think I want to try to be a good person anymore.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
I think that it has become abundantly clear to me. And by the way, I'm not even saying I'm a good person.
Francis
I'm trying. Yeah.
Harry
But I just don't think there's any benefit to it anymore. I've learned from your example that, you know, just living with complete self interest and just whatever I want to do, whatever makes me happy. And that is what I want to do. There's no. You're doing better than I am. Because what I lose by being concerned about other people's feelings, it's wasted motion is a waste of fucking time. Clearly.
Rhone
I don't think that's true.
Harry
You're doing just as well. You're more liked than I am. You're probably more successful, and you are a.
Rhone
No, I'm not. I'm not. And I also do care about other people.
Harry
I don't know. I don't know.
Rhone
If I didn't. If I didn't care about the SNL thing, I wouldn't have texted you about it.
Harry
Yeah.
Rhone
I would have just gone no, but.
Francis
What he cared about was the repercussions for him. No, they don't care about other people. He's cared about the blood.
Rhone
I texted Francis and I said, go. If you go to the party, I'll go to the party.
Harry
Wait a minute. Oh, you did say that. Yes, you said. You said, if I don't want to go to the party. But if you were gonna.
Rhone
I said, if you're still on the fence about going to the party, I'll get.
Harry
You did that while you were going to the main event. Yeah, that's like being like, I'm going to this wedding that you're not invited to. But I know that there's a chance you might get the look for this, like, late night bar when nobody El. Else wants to be.
Rhone
I don't think. No, that's not what.
Harry
We want to go to that. I'll happily meet you after.
Rhone
No, that's not after.
Harry
The thing, though. The most fun thing. After you. You know the thing I would say the scraps of the evening with.
Rhone
I would argue that after was more fun than present.
Harry
Don't buy that. You said you only stayed for a minute.
Rhone
A couple minutes.
Francis
He stayed longer than a minute.
Harry
I believe that.
Rhone
I had to make sure Ron was going to get home.
Harry
I'm gonna drown you.
Rhone
We had a family to look after.
Harry
You better work on your lung capacity.
Rhone
Well, you guys better learn how to tie a clinch knot, because I'm not tying a single one.
Francis
Why are you.
Rhone
You're on. You're on the shit.
Harry
What?
Francis
What did I do?
Rhone
Yeah, you're on his list, too.
Francis
What are you talking about? I stayed late with you. Smoked that joint on the way in with you. Smoked the joint before snl.
Rhone
There was no joint smoked. Not a single joint was smoked. He thought there was.
Francis
He wanted to smoke a joint on the way in.
Rhone
Wrong with smoking cigarettes. Butts that he picked up off the ground. And he was like, dude, this weed is so strong.
Francis
I was splitting them open and packing a lift with it. Cigarette butts that were laying around. Oh, man, we could have used a guy like you. But, Francis, if you had said yes, I probably wouldn't have even got the invite. Honestly.
Harry
That's very. That's. That's so.
Francis
That's exactly true.
Harry
That's. I don't think that's exactly true because.
Francis
I didn't even get. They get the look until after the fact. So your altruism of saying, no, don't go. Let him. Let him get on the life raft. I'll go down with the ship.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
You float away and tell a story with Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet years later. That's what you wanted of me.
Rhone
Yeah. Maybe when you go, they'll be like. Maybe like Sabrina Carpenter will be hosting.
Harry
Great.
Francis
But you don't like her.
Harry
I'll. I'll make out with her.
Francis
No. You think she's a famously round face.
Rhone
Oh, yeah, I forgot. You don't like Sabrina Carpenter.
Harry
I'll just grab her ball. Her face like a beach ball. Like I'm inflating a beach ball.
Rhone
That's crazy. We don't do Sabrina slander on this show. That's where I cross the line.
Harry
I've come around on her.
Rhone
I'm a Sabrina.
Harry
I'll allow her. Now.
Rhone
I love. I love Sabrina.
Harry
She's cool. She's got some. She's got. She's feisty.
Francis
She's very sexual.
Harry
I know, I like that.
Francis
But do you think she put lays it on thick Too thick though?
Rhone
I think it's just her style.
Francis
Do you think that she's just trying to fight against the Disney. The Disney vacation of herself?
Rhone
Probably. That's where I knew her from, was Disney.
Francis
I knew Hilary Duff from Disney.
Rhone
Of course.
Francis
You know who Hilary Duff is?
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
I bet they named a bar in the Simpsons after her.
Rhone
The Buff Bar.
Francis
Yeah, the whole beer brand.
Harry
The beer.
Rhone
What is the beer they drink?
Francis
Duff.
Rhone
Duff. I say Buff.
Francis
Don't matter.
Rhone
Doesn't really matter.
Harry
I got it wrong too. I said the bar. It's not the bar. Mo is the bar.
Francis
Mo, which they named after Mo, the bartender.
Rhone
Of course.
Francis
How would he even be able to afford that as a bartender? How did. How does Mo afford owning the bar?
Harry
It's a good question.
Francis
I guess there's bad overhead on bars.
Harry
Probably had some investors. He's the only one likes here.
Rhone
Yeah, there's one employee.
Francis
If we got a bunch of money as a show and we had to like have a spin off brand or like open a spin off brick and mortar, what would you guys hope to open?
Harry
Well, let's put it this way. If we opened a bar. I hate to say it, I do think we should call it Harry's because.
Rhone
Harry's my life list will not be there. A famous Harry's Bar probably right across the street.
Francis
Harry Saloon.
Rhone
There's Harry's Bar directly across the street. I think there's a right by Triple Crown.
Harry
Something in. Maybe it's in Fidi. Harry's bar. Yeah, it is in High Dye and it's a restaurant and it's an old steakhouse. I've been there and it's fantastic. I would say we should go, but I'm not really friends with Harry anymore.
Francis
I love to go with you sometimes.
Harry
We can do that. We can all three do it.
Francis
Bring my kids.
Harry
Plenty of ambient noise.
Rhone
I would go to Harry's. I would also go to Mustang Harry's, which is just two blocks away.
Harry
That place is.
Rhone
Yeah. I've never been, to be honest. More of a triple crown guy.
Francis
Triple crown clothes, bro. Did it, dumbass. Maybe a sandwich shop.
Harry
We're gonna have a fun time upstate.
Francis
Oh, my God, I have so much weed.
Rhone
I don't smoke weed.
Harry
Oh, my God, do I have weed?
Francis
I would love to get fried with you guys and watch something scary.
Rhone
You know what I did the other day? I went on Friday morning, I went out and I bought chewing tobacco. And I was like, maybe I'll be a chewing tobacco guy.
Harry
Dip.
Rhone
Dip.
Harry
You bought dip?
Rhone
Long cut.
Harry
What?
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
Part of a Halloween costume.
Rhone
No, no, it's just my Halloween. That was my celebration. Packed a lip for maybe 30 seconds and I spit it out and threw away the entire can.
Guest or Minor Speaker
Yeah.
Francis
Wait, but lip or long cuts different from chewing tobacco?
Harry
No, that's what that.
Francis
Chewing tobacco. Unless like red man.
Rhone
Yeah, long cut is long cuts. Just the pinch.
Harry
Yeah, but I. I put long cut skull under the family of chewing tobacco.
Rhone
Same.
Harry
Yeah, and maybe that's wrong, but I just associated with.
Rhone
If you swallow it, you'll throw up.
Harry
In college, everybody. I knew that. I don't know. I wonder how popular dip still is, because now the pouches. The pouches have thrown a Lucy.
Francis
And you have the time of your life.
Harry
Yeah, but in our time. In my time, not your time.
Rhone
No, I. I've done chewing tobacco. Everyone did chewing tobacco when I was growing up.
Harry
Really?
Rhone
Yeah.
Francis
When did you grow up? In the 1800s.
Rhone
My friends. My friends are doing chewing tobacco when we were like 12.
Harry
Is this like your 911 bit?
Rhone
No, I swear to God.
Harry
Came out of the womb.
Rhone
We did the. We did the. We used to do the actual.
Francis
The.
Rhone
The long cut pouches.
Harry
I remember being extremely buzzed from a very young age.
Rhone
I remember. I remember doing chewing tobacco with braces.
Harry
And it was.
Rhone
And it was long cut. And the same thing I would. I always did the same thing. I put in for 30 seconds and spit it out.
Harry
Hockey players made it so cool. We.
Rhone
That's where we.
Harry
Everybody.
Rhone
That's everyone I was friends with played hockey.
Francis
Yeah, you just spit it on the ice.
Rhone
I don't know.
Harry
You say Everyone. You. I'm gonna give you more credit than that.
Rhone
You played hockey, but not at this age. Oh, I quit already.
Harry
All the hockey players did. And when I got to college, some of the lacrosse players would. And sometimes when I got really drunk, just to see how far we could send it, I'd throw a lip in for them.
Rhone
That's immediate hell.
Harry
No, it was fine when I was drunk. When I did it sober, it was hell.
Rhone
Really, I'm the total opposite. If I were to throw. Like. I remember the first time I ever did one of the pouches, I was like. It was. I was trying to quit vaping, and I was drinking at the stand, and I put in a pouch. We were, like, all sitting at a table and I just got Irish goodbye.
Harry
Are you talking like a lushy pouch or like a. Okay, yeah. Because they also have the pouch pouches for school.
Rhone
Yeah, yeah. No, this was like a Lucy pouch. You got the spins, I got the everythings. I got every symptom.
Francis
You're just going in a figure 8.
Rhone
I had to go straight back, but I didn't even know I was capable of feeling that anymore because I've used nicotine for so long, I don't know if I am.
Harry
I think long cut skulls.
Rhone
I did the long cut.
Harry
That's why I have a different color. Is that. Is that the saying?
Francis
Oh, yeah.
Rhone
That's why I did it. And I didn't feel anything. And then I was like. And it's making me feel shitty.
Harry
One time we did it, we were driving to Dartmouth, and I was with a bunch of older guys on the team, and we. We drove. It was like, all back roads to Dartmouth.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
Nowhere. And I think we were just going up to, like, party for the weekend or something, and all the guys in the car threw lips in, and I just. They were like, you want them? I was like, yeah. In the car, through the back seat.
Francis
You have no that. You can't go anywhere.
Rhone
I feel. I feel sick thinking about.
Harry
I had to ask us to pull over. Yeah, I had to ask us to pull over so that we could pull over and I could get out and throw up on the side.
Rhone
That's the worst throw up there is. Yeah, it's bad nicotine. Throwing up from any kind of nicotine is the worst throw up. It's vicious.
Francis
See through white.
Rhone
Yeah.
Francis
Imagine if you're sitting in the middle seat.
Rhone
It's literally like you die for 10 minutes and then you come back to life immediately. I remember we like. Like, when vaping became a thing, I Remember we got like a shitty small like refillable vape and. And we went to one of my friend's house on like a Friday and we were all hitting it and then it like exploded. It like blew up in Peter's mouth and. Yeah. And he was laying down in the middle of the woods like, like couldn't move or else he would throw up. And we just had to sit in the woods.
Francis
We were.
Rhone
I don't even know why we were in the woods. Like we were in the woods just like around.
Harry
Yeah.
Rhone
But then it became a thing where we were just like stuck in the woods because if he tried to get up, he would puke.
Harry
You know, that's something I like about you. We had that in common. We both, we, we around in the woods.
Rhone
Of course.
Harry
I think we're back. Great.
Rhone
I'm glad.
Harry
You and me, we're back.
Rhone
That's all it took was the woods.
Francis
A little shared ground. Little common ground is so nice.
Harry
Leaf covered ground.
Rhone
I'm pumped to get in the woods this week.
Harry
Yeah, we're going to.
Rhone
I haven't been fishing since I was in Wyoming.
Harry
Listen, I'll just say this right now. If you guys want to extend a couple of days, I don't see any reason we have to come home.
Rhone
Don't you have spot on Thursday? I do. I think that's why we're going home.
Harry
I have strep throw right now.
Rhone
Yeah.
Harry
And I can. I'm going to wait to play that card smart.
Francis
If you played it today, it'd be like, well, you'll be good by Thursday.
Harry
Yeah, right.
Rhone
Wait for those symptoms to fully kick in.
Francis
Yeah, that's gonna be so nice. What are we gonna do while we're fishing to like get our, to get our minds twisted?
Rhone
Probably drink nothing.
Harry
You want some long cut?
Rhone
That's how I'm. Yeah, that's actually a great time to do it.
Harry
What should.
Rhone
Ooh, we'll throw a couple lips in mushrooms. I'd like to just, you know, fish.
Harry
We could get you some weed. You, you love weed.
Rhone
Not while fishing.
Francis
Automatic. That's automatic? Yeah. I mean that's baseline. That's like, are we going to be breathing air there?
Harry
It's like, did we eat breakfast this morning?
Rhone
This is going to be the difference between a 28 inch brown trout and no fish.
Francis
What?
Harry
You don't think you can fish high?
Rhone
You don't even consider lighting a joint until you've already landed a fish.
Harry
Is that true? Yeah, it's, it's one of those sort of what's the word I'm looking for? Superstitious things.
Rhone
That's what me and my friends do when we. When we. Though we do it with like the. We would do it with the Jewel. We'd be like, no one's hitting the Jewel until we catch a fish.
Harry
No, you did it with joints. But I love that you finally admitted.
Rhone
No, my friends don't. My friends don't smoke weed.
Harry
Uhhuh.
Francis
Just like you don't.
Rhone
No. Yes.
Harry
All right.
Rhone
I got a piss and I think, Francis, you got a meeting.
Harry
Don't you put that evil on me.
Rhone
I gotta keep. I gotta keep track of both of you boys. Make sure you're getting your done. Francis, you got a meeting. Ron, don't you have a family to take care of? All right, thank you guys for listening to the podcast.
Francis
We'll be back week for us. We're recording tomorrow. We're recording the next day. Next week is going to be the biggest week of son of a Boy dad history. It's called fish week. Please subscribe now. As we affirmed, if we get to 150,000 subscribers by the end of the year, a little Sasquatch will do Surviving Barstool. So it's all. It's actually on you guys.
Rhone
All right, we'll see you guys on Thursday.
Harry
I got.
Rhone
I got a piss real quick.
Guest or Minor Speaker
Looked older to you Came around I was only falling one way I was only falling one way J were drifting.
Francis
Was.
Guest or Minor Speaker
I so, so then you listen now I come alive I was only falling one way I was only falling my way way I was only falling one way I was only falling one way that is true, you're right did you realize no one could take me alive? I was only falling one way See just a distant light oh, just a memory Take my hand and you can see Sam, take.
Date: November 4, 2025
Hosts: Francis, Harry ("Lil Sasquatch"), Rhone
Producer: Barstool Sports
In this episode titled “Show of Force,” the guys gather for a classic, comedic deep-dive into boyhood rituals and adult friendships, with persistent riffs on “what it means to be a man.” Lil Sasquatch (Harry) is newly out of college and leans on his co-hosts, especially Rhone, for guidance on manhood, life skills, and adult social dynamics. Intertwined are plans for an upstate fishing trip, banter about SNL parties, Halloween observations, mentalist magicians, childhood vices, and a playful but pointed debate about friendship etiquette.
Timestamps: 01:20 – 09:19
“I’ve never fished like this except for, like, off of a dock or on a boat… I wanted to live up to my very, very, very, very, very high expectations.” (04:16)
“The real wonderful moment, will be once the work is done and then we can set aside our cameras and our affected personalities and be ourselves, be who we truly are.” (04:31)
Timestamps: 09:20 – 14:00
Timestamps: 10:47 – 30:45
“I am somebody who doesn’t… Luckily, at this point in my life, suffer too much from FOMO. I’ve learned ways to combat that, of course… The good nights for which I am absent will come again.” (18:17)
Timestamps: 23:18 – 32:30
“It’s all the performance... there were multiple tricks where everyone’s like, this guy’s an idiot… then it all comes together.” (26:31 – Rhone)
Timestamps: 32:13 – 37:00
Timestamps: 44:20 – 49:58
“My whole feed is adorable families with coordinated kids outfits… then all of a sudden, it’s whore—just cleavage mashed together with some kind of like… it’s a show of force, you know?” (45:06)
Timestamps: 64:27 – 69:05
Timestamps: 69:07 – 71:55
On the emotional core of the fishing trip:
“The real wonderful moment, will be once the work is done… and we can set aside our cameras and our affected personalities and be ourselves.” – Harry (04:31)
On grown-up Halloween costumes:
“My whole feed is… adorable families with funny and cute coordinated kids outfits… and then all of a sudden, it’s whore. Who are just cleavage that is mashed together… It’s a show of force, you know?” – Francis (45:06)
On FOMO and friendship maturity:
“I am somebody who doesn’t… suffer too much from FOMO… The good nights for which I am absent will come again.” – Harry (18:17)
On adult SNL party etiquette:
“If you found out at 8:45 that I was going to the taping of SNL, you would have called the security guards at 30 Rock and issued a bomb threat.” – Harry (22:10)
On chaperoning at the afterparty:
“The only reason I went to the after party was to make sure that you didn’t blow up because you were so drunk.” – Rhone (53:32)
On playing the long game in friendship:
“I don’t really think I want to try to be a good person anymore… Living with complete self interest… What I lose by being concerned about other people’s feelings, it’s wasted motion.” – Harry (58:26)
The episode, though packed with laughs and absurdity, threads a surprisingly poignant line about post-adolescent friendship—decoding rituals, managing jealousy, and learning to be genuinely happy for others’ highs (even if you’re missing out). In classic Son of a Boy Dad fashion, the mix of self-aware vulnerability and relentless roasting keeps things both hilarious and human.
Stay tuned for “Fish Week” as the crew promises iconic woods and river content—if, of course, the group chat plans finally make it out of the group chat.