The Storm | Son of a Boy Dad #371

Summary

Son of a Boy Dad #371: "The Storm" (January 29, 2026)

Podcast: Son of a Boy Dad
Hosts: Roan, Francis, Shane Gillis
Episode Theme: Navigating adulthood with humor, friendships, food, fame, and a healthy amount of self-deprecation. Lil Sasquatch is at a crossroads, and the group uses the chaos of a snowy week, run-ins with celebrities, and plenty of offbeat stories to riff on masculinity, coping, and modern life.

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Main Theme and Purpose

This episode circles around the aftermath of a major snowstorm in NYC, the gang’s ventures out on the town (including an epic, if mostly uneventful, night with comedians and baseball star Aaron Judge), and plenty of comedic takes on everything from bougie dining to rock climbing documentaries. At its heart, it’s about navigating young adulthood: forming friendships, confronting expectations, and building a worldview—however haphazardly.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Recounting the Storm and a Star-Studded Night Out

[03:35-08:45]

• The hosts survived a huge snowstorm and gathered for a night out that, while enjoyable, proved uneventful: “I don’t really think there’s a single… anecdote.” (Roan, 03:51)
• Star encounter: Aaron Judge of the Yankees drops in post-show, leading to starstruck moments, playful height debates, and discussions about fame—especially Judge’s approachable demeanor in a crowd.
• Memorable confusion: Roan’s buddy fails to react to Aaron Judge, causing Roan to momentarily doubt his own celebrity-spotting abilities.
  “Is that just like a random tall, ethnic person?” (Roan, 05:35)
• Francis is stunned by Judge’s presence:
  “He’s one of a very few group of people that… made me take my breath away.” (Francis, 05:58)

2. Celebrity Interactions & Group Dynamics

[08:45-13:50]

• Tales from backstage: Including a moment where Francis is isolated in the green room as Judge and Anthony Rizzo show up—“I felt like that scene in Superbad when Michael Cera is in the room and those guys come in to start doing drugs.” (Francis, 10:01)
• Comic banter on group interests:
  “I don’t have any specialized interests that I can spur out over in, like, a social setting.” (Shane Gillis, 11:48)

3. Food Adventures and Overanalysis of Dining Out

[14:10-22:10]

• They went to Cote, a high-end Korean steakhouse, and enjoyed the food—but not the vibes.
• Francis critiques the clubby, “Vegas-y” atmosphere:
  “I found it to be a little kind of like Vegas-y… clubby meets gimmicky, like a catch steakhouse type vibe.” (Francis, 16:34)
• Comedic observations about Korean BBQ scissors and safety scissors, glue sticks, etc.
• They debate the value and enjoyment of fine dining, especially for those who don’t drink: “I think it’s just like dining—I don’t know, I don’t get the reward you guys get from going to places like that.” (Roan, 21:59)

4. The Ethics and Faux Pas of Corkage Fees

[27:00-28:40]

• Francis brought his own wine to the restaurant and debates if that’s a “major faux pas or not.”
• Self-awareness and self-deprecation about taste and class.

5. Random Debates: Pizza, Candy, and gas stations

[22:47-26:50]

• Dollar slice pizza vs. fancy dining—and why candy shops where you fill your own bag “teach you a lot about yourself.” (Francis, 24:50)
• Comedic take on full-service gas stations in NJ and the psychology of being “too rich to pump your own gas.”

6. Wine Talk and Roan’s Relationship with Sobriety

[29:07-30:30]

• Light-hearted peer pressure about trying wine—Roan resolves never to indulge (“If I had one sip of wine, me and Judge would have been at Yankee Stadium throwing the ball around.” Roan, 29:35)
• Discussion about boundaries, temptation, and staying sober at social events.

7. Corporate Culture and Rock Climbing Doc Heroes

[31:37-39:15]

• Alex Honnold’s “Free Solo” and the performative world of rock climbing:
  “Rock climbing has to be the most performative sport. 100% more so than even ones that have a hundred thousand people there.” (Shane Gillis, 38:39)
• Cross-examination of documentary stars, their egos, and how they monetize their notoriety with corporates.

8. Tech Obsessions and Streaming Services

[59:22-67:02]

• Spirited debate on building a PC, digital minimalism, and the ever-increasing cost (and confusion) of having 4K streaming, Netflix, YouTube Premium, HBO, etc.
• Francis expresses the satisfaction of locking his ex out of his Netflix account, and how upgrading to 4K streaming was oddly cathartic.
• The group argues over the superiority of various streaming platforms; Roan goes to bat for YouTube Premium, Francis for Netflix.

9. Fancy TVs and the Quest for Digital Art

[64:48-68:41]

• Tangentially obsessed with Samsung Frame TVs and OLEDs; debate on whether having versatile home displays is an art, a luxury, or just a glorified screensaver.
• “Art is never convenient.” (Francis, 68:06)
• “If you had the frame tv, you would get his Gaudi jokes.” (Shane Gillis, 71:34)

10. Grease Fires, Candles, and Facebook Marketplace

[73:11-80:50]

• Francis recounts a close call with a grill fire; the group discusses how to safely put out grease fires and the anxieties of accidentally burning down your building.
• Digression on the science of Yankee Candles, melting wax, and what actually “fuels” a candle. Self-deprecating laughs fill the exchange.
• Jokes about buying used candles on Facebook Marketplace and how it’s a sure sign things have gone sideways in life.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Francis (about Aaron Judge): “He’s one of a very few group of people that… made me take my breath away.” [05:58]
• Roan (on not recognizing the Yankees star): “Is that just like a random tall, ethnic person?” [05:35]
• Shane (mock-berating Francis): “You swapped resolution for ex.” [62:50]
• Francis (on dining at Cote): “I was disappointed. I found it to be a little kind of like Vegas-y… clubby meets gimmicky.” [16:34]
• Francis (on Netflix): “My subscription to Netflix would be one of the last sacrifices I would make.” [63:14]
• Roan (candle philosophy): “If you ever find… you’re selling candles on Facebook Marketplace, things must have gone very wrong.” [79:39]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:35-08:45: Starstruck by Aaron Judge and stories from their night out
• 14:10-22:10: Fine dining at Cote Korean Steakhouse and group attitudes toward food/alcohol
• 27:00-28:40: The etiquette of bringing your own wine to a fancy restaurant
• 31:37-39:15: "Free Solo" doc talk, Honnold, and the culture of extreme sports
• 59:22-67:02: Streaming service loyalty, subscription hacks, and exes mooching Netflix
• 64:48-68:41: Samsung Frame TV, home tech as “art,” and digital living spaces
• 73:11-80:50: Grill fires, candle science, and the absurdities of Facebook Marketplace

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Tone & Style Notes

The episode is loose, self-aware, and full of observational comedy—often escalating mundane topics into mini-roasts or philosophical digressions. No topic is off-limits, but the humor is always self-deprecating, with the group taking turns ribbing each other for their habits, elitism, or perceived lack of adult skills.

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Bottom Line:
This episode offers a window into navigating “grown-up” life when you’re still not quite sure what adulthood really means. The group floats from celebrity sightings to barbecuing blunders, with plenty of sideways debates on luxury vs. simplicity—making it all relevant, grounded, and hilarious for anyone questioning how to be a man (or even just function) in the modern world.

Transcript

[Shane Gillis]

Hey, son of a boy. Dad. Listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Podcast Announcer]

The new era of UFC on Paramount continues. Live from Australia. Featherweight champ Alexander Volkanovski.

[Roan]

He is an animal.

[Podcast Announcer]

Defends his belt at home in an explosive rematch against Diego Lopez.

[Roan]

You gotta be. Kenny Evil.

[Podcast Announcer]

And the always dangerous Dan Hooker throws down with powerhouse Ben Wa in a high action lightweight showdown.

[Shane Gillis]

There's never been anything like this.

[Podcast Announcer]

UFC 325, Saturday, January 31, only on Paramount.

[Roan]

Plus TaxAct can think of a million things more fun than filing taxes. TaxAct is going to name some now. Sitting in traffic, folding a fitted bedsheet, listening to your co worker talk about his fantasy team digging a hole. Digging an even larger hole next to that original hole. Unfortunately, TaxAct's filing software can't make taxes fun, but TaxAct can help you get them done. Taxact. Let's get them over with.

[Francis]

Sweet.

[Podcast Announcer]

Out on the course, they're the PGA Tour's best players. But in the arena, they're prime time. And season two of TGL, presented by SoFi, is back with lights, cameras, action. We're talking big moments, big personalities, big names in the stands, all on the big screen. Big time matchups with shot clocks. Hammer drops timeouts, overtime and playoffs. It's city versus city, squad versus squad. This sport just hits different under the lights. It's TGL, presented by SoFi.

[Background Vocalist or Music]

Keep up.

[Podcast Announcer]

It's golf. Tune in to every match. Only on espn.

[Roan]

Shall we?

[Francis]

Uh huh.

[Podcast Announcer]

Out on the course, they're the PGA Tour's best players. But in the arena, they're prime time. And season two of TGL, presented by SoFi, is back with lights, cameras, action. We're talking big moments, big personalities, big names in the stands, all on the big screen. Big time matchups with shot clocks, Hammer drops timeouts, overtime and playoffs. It's city versus city, squad versus Squad. This sport just hits different under the lights. It's TGL, presented by SoFi.

[Background Vocalist or Music]

Keep up.

[Roan]

It's golf.

[Podcast Announcer]

Tune in to every match, only on espn.

[Roan]

All righty. Welcome back to the Son of a Boy dad podcast.

[Francis]

Today it is. What the hell is that? Where did you get that?

[Shane Gillis]

A man sent it to me.

[Francis]

That's sick.

[Shane Gillis]

You don't. You don't wear hoodies? Actually, I guess you're kind of wearing a hoodie now.

[Francis]

I got a hoodie on. If I had hoodies that had embroidered varsity letters and stuff like that on them, I'd wear.

[Shane Gillis]

They'll say I guarantee they'll send you one.

[Francis]

Who makes that? Is that. Is that an eagle sweater?

[Shane Gillis]

It kind of feels like an eagle sweater. It kind of feels like an old school.

[Roan]

Eagles.

[Francis]

Sick, dude.

[Shane Gillis]

No free ads, but I'm sure if they sent you one, we could really shout them out.

[Roan]

Yeah, it's a damn shame.

[Shane Gillis]

I got one in cream as well. I'd love for you to have it. I'd love to take it off my back and give it to you.

[Francis]

No, no, no, no, no. You can't do that. You're gonna get cold.

[Shane Gillis]

I have a Downey jacket, a Robert Downey rdj. I got a Downey junior.

[Francis]

What. What day is it? I'm sorry.

[Roan]

I don't know.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know.

[Roan]

I mean, we can say, but it's Monday.

[Francis]

Okay, that's fine. I just cut you off because I was so excited about this.

[Roan]

All good. This will be out on Thursday.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm so damn good. I'm so damn glad to see you guys.

[Francis]

Me too. Me too.

[Roan]

Glad we all made it. Pumped. We all survived.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. Big snowstorm. Big. A lot of ball. And then we got. We had a nice night out with us. Just those guys. I don't even know if there's like any. I'm sure people would want to hear, like, stories from it, but, like, do you feel like there's a lot of stories?

[Francis]

Were there any funny stories?

[Shane Gillis]

I don't even think really.

[Roan]

I was thinking about.

[Shane Gillis]

Not a damn funny thing happened.

[Roan]

I thought about it after and then I thought about it this weekend and the entire time I was like, I don't really think there's a single.

[Shane Gillis]

Anecdotally.

[Roan]

Yeah. Pretty much just went to dinner and then went to the show and then went our separate ways.

[Francis]

I'm trying to think. Yeah, that is pretty much.

[Shane Gillis]

Is that indicative of that? We have a bad time if we.

[Francis]

Don'T have no crazy time. I think we had a perfect time.

[Roan]

Yeah, I had a great time.

[Francis]

There was no need to add anything or. Or act reckless.

[Roan]

No, no. Recklessness.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Everyone was on their best behavior.

[Shane Gillis]

Like, stories would be people's like, pants falling down or like a mishap with a waiter or something. But none of that happened. It was y.

[Roan]

Now everyone's on their best behavior.

[Francis]

Damn. There must have been something. I know there was something.

[Shane Gillis]

Aaron Judge asked Sass to come and, like, play a couple games for the Yankees this year. I remember that, but outside of that, I don't think there's anything.

[Francis]

Yeah, Sass went up to him, was like, I just started Lifting again. What are you. And Aaron Dredge was like, everything I do, everything on earth.

[Shane Gillis]

I will say I had a little.

[Roan]

Bit of a moment where I. We, obviously we were. We had a. We had a group that we were with. And then my buddy Jack from home was with us, which was funny. And we were waiting in the hallway after the show, like by like the lounge and. Which was the Delta lounge, funny enough. And. And Aaron, we were like, we were like up against that wall. And Aaron Judge walked by us and I was like nudging my buddy Jack.

[Shane Gillis]

I was like, little Aaron Nudge.

[Roan]

That's Aaron Judge. But I didn't say anything. Just walking right by. And then I was like, I was kind of freaking out. And then I looked over to him and he wasn't making a face at all. And then I was like, is that not Aaron Judge? In my head I was like, is that just like a random tall, ethnic person? Yeah, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Ambiguously ethnic dude. Maybe he just wasn't like your buddy had like a little bit of an edge to him.

[Roan]

Yeah, definitely.

[Shane Gillis]

He's not like surprised.

[Roan]

He didn't seem like. He didn't seem. And then after he was like, that was pretty sick.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And I was like, you didn't seem like that you cared at all?

[Francis]

No, I didn't bother.

[Roan]

That didn't even impact you in the slightest.

[Francis]

I'll say that Aaron Judge is. I mean, he's one of a very few group of people that. That made me like, take my breath away.

[Roan]

I'll be honest. He was shorter than I thought he was going to be.

[Francis]

Get out of here. Get the fuck out of.

[Roan]

Swear to God. You were like this. You're like the same height as him.

[Francis]

No, you're. Shut up.

[Roan]

Six eight, bro. I thought he was going to be absolute monster. Everyone talks about. They're like, well, you see him in person, he's. And then I saw him look at the photo.

[Francis]

He's towering over me, Shane. He's enormous and perfect.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

A regular sized guy. Just regular dimension. Standard build.

[Roan]

Like Soda. Soda's taller than him easily.

[Shane Gillis]

I guess he is now that I think about it. I guess he wasn't that tall. Is he kind of short?

[Roan]

He's kind of short for the hype, right?

[Shane Gillis]

He's short for being six, eight.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Shortest six eight guy I've ever met.

[Roan]

I think. Six eight. I think they did him a favor. He's six four.

[Shane Gillis]

He was wearing cleats in the picture. Yeah, exactly.

[Francis]

He's shading up four inches. Yeah, he was wearing spikes He.

[Roan]

He.

[Francis]

There was a moment afterwards I reflected on it, and I thought, you know, almost. Almost a twinge of, like, anger at him.

[Roan]

A judge.

[Francis]

Yeah. Where I was like, you have no business carrying the weight of an entire city, of specifically New York City, on your shoulders the way that you do with the poise that you do and still show up in an event like this and have no problem mingling with everyone who's, like, drooling over you.

[Roan]

Yeah. He didn't seem to have any issues.

[Francis]

This wasn't just like, some hyper, small, elite group of people. There were, like, other random young people there. And, like, he's so famous and such a star that I would have thought, like, oh, he's only gonna come for hanging this group. This is too many people for him.

[Roan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Francis]

He'll be here for five minutes and then he'll bounce. Wrong.

[Roan]

No, he was just goofing.

[Shane Gillis]

I think he was goofing off a little. He was kind of goofing off. Yeah.

[Roan]

He walked around with the Shane Gillis pillow all night.

[Francis]

Yeah. I was kind of almost like, dude, you need to. Yeah.

[Roan]

Chill the fuck out.

[Francis]

Pull it together.

[Shane Gillis]

I goof around.

[Francis]

Yeah. We need more from you.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Can you dial it?

[Roan]

You're not funny. Yeah, that's not your thing. Pull it together also.

[Francis]

Six, eight. Who measured you? Your daughter?

[Shane Gillis]

He's 100ft.

[Francis]

No, he was amazing. That was cool. There was something funny that did happen, which was that after the show ended up, we all started to go back towards the. To the green room, and I was a little bit ahead of you guys, and I walked past.

[Shane Gillis]

Francis was running away from us, like the parents in Home Alone to the airport. I just saw the back of Francis, jacket whip around the corner.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I don't know. I mean, we were all. I was 10 yards ahead of Harry, and I get. I got there and then I, like, waited in. When I was past the security checkpoint and looked back and I had seen you talking to them, and I was like, he has exactly the same credentials that I do. We had the same sort of badge or whatever. So I'm like, okay, he's probably going to be fine. And then I kept waiting and you weren't. And then I was like, what. What hap. What happened? And then I got into the green room and I texted you guys, and I was like, where are you?

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

And Harry ran into the lady at the front and all the VIP lanyards went flying. And he was like, I'm sure mine's in here somewhere. And she's like, all right. He's backstage at the Islanders game.

[Francis]

Because I went. I went into the green room, and that was a small space.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And that was when Aaron Judge and Anthony Rizzo walked in.

[Roan]

And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Francis]

I felt like that scene in Super Bad when Michael Cera is in the room, then those guys come in to start doing drugs. And I was like, okay, I don't know if I should be in here. Like, just. And they like, there's no way for me to get out. I'm like, aaron Judge is in here.

[Roan]

Derek. Derek Drescher, who's a buddy of ours, met Judge. He's a huge Yankee. Derek's like a. He sits in the bleachers.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. We remember him from. Or. I've never even. I don't know him, but I've. I've. I remember him from your softball stories when you're on the second.

[Roan]

Absolute Psycho to everybody getting, like, kicked off. Like, he almost got thrown out of games. He met Judge before the show, and apparently he, like, walked into the green room and he didn't know he's going to be there, and he just, like, froze. And he was like, nice to meet you, Captain.

[Shane Gillis]

Such a flex. But your buddy Jack, he's kind of. He's kind of bullying me around a little bit.

[Roan]

Yeah. He was fucking with you.

[Background Vocalist or Music]

He.

[Shane Gillis]

I, like, I was trying to show off that I've been doing a stretching app for 202 days, and he just was calling bullshit. I was, like, trying to show it to him, and he was just trying.

[Roan]

To debunk me the whole time I'm on his side.

[Shane Gillis]

He was kind of smacking me around the stretching app. I was just trying to talk shop. I realized that in a. I don't have, like, a refined interest when I go into a circumstance like that to talk shop about.

[Roan]

You kept on grabbing his arms and saying, France. You were like, francis, you got to.

[Shane Gillis]

Feel this about your money. Yeah.

[Roan]

You kept on grabbing his triceps. I didn't want to feel, Francis, you gotta grab these.

[Francis]

Only because I was worried they would be better than mine.

[Shane Gillis]

They were good.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

But I just overheard Francis having, like, a com. Like a. A detailed conversation about a coffee machine. And I was realizing that I don't have any specialized interests that I can spur out over in, like, a social setting.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Which takes the weight off of any conversation you're having.

[Francis]

Oh, my God.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm doing this fucking crazy thing. Just ask me questions about it, dude.

[Francis]

I got into it with Nick Mullen on. On the minutia of coffee making. And, you know, we probably would make fun of me for my recent obsession and obsessions like that. But when you spread your interest that far and wide, inevitably when you end up meeting someone who has one of those things you can pull from your quiver.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And I'm now deep.

[Shane Gillis]

Did he.

[Roan]

Does he have.

[Francis]

I mean, he. He initially was like, you know, he tried to be like, I just make drip.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And then I was like, oh, okay, well, that's cool. And then as I kept talking, he's like, yeah, well, my drip, you know, sometimes I'll do like a. A 60 millimeter burr, like, flat grind to make it more coarse. And then it's a pour over. And. And he's like. And I have the V60. And like, I, you know, I try to make sure the temperature is this. And I'm like, dude, what are you.

[Podcast Announcer]

You're me.

[Shane Gillis]

He's sandbagging.

[Francis]

I said that to him. I was like, you're. What are you talking about? And he's to tinker.

[Roan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Francis]

And then he started telling me about his tools.

[Roan]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Francis]

And we talked about tools for a long time.

[Roan]

Gotta have tools. Yeah, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

It helps to have that very specific interest, I guess. Yours is just comedy. Me, like, if you're something like that, you just. You could just talk comedy for hours straight.

[Roan]

I talk to anybody for about.

[Shane Gillis]

No, if you're around your comics, you guys are talking about one thing and one thing only.

[Francis]

Yeah. Comedy, video games. Right. And I would say that in all likelihood, the amount of people in the world that share just those two interests.

[Roan]

They were all there.

[Francis]

You've already met them.

[Roan]

Yeah, they were all there.

[Francis]

They're all already. You found everyone you can, and you've surrounded yourself with them.

[Roan]

Yeah. So they pretty much all care about comedy and video games, too.

[Francis]

That's it.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Oh, wow. All my best friends in one room.

[Shane Gillis]

Aaron Judge likes comedy and video games.

[Roan]

It was a good time. Show was fucking sick. It was soder. Michael Chick Day, Dave Attel, Louis C.K. shane. Pretty crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

All funny. All funnier than the last.

[Roan]

Yeah, pretty crazy.

[Shane Gillis]

All just freaking hilarious. Would you guys give a candid. Would you really think of the. Of the steak dinner that we had beforehand?

[Roan]

Oh, I thought it was incredible, but I mean, I've been. I'm still the same.

[Shane Gillis]

Same pieces of steak, same batch.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Just one at a time.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Like a nuggets.

[Roan]

Saturday morning was bad.

[Francis]

That was the filet mignon.

[Roan]

Yeah, that was bad.

[Francis]

And then after that, you did the.

[Roan]

Wagyu I'll be honest, I actually. My stomach hurt when we got to the show.

[Francis]

Yeah, go figure. It was a Friday night.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Why wouldn't it have?

[Roan]

I know, but we got to the show, I was like, I feel awful.

[Shane Gillis]

It's because you weren't having enough kimchi.

[Roan]

I tried. Dude, that is disgusting.

[Francis]

I know.

[Roan]

That was like. Yeah, couldn't really.

[Francis]

I ate the chi.

[Roan]

The only thing. I'll be honest, the only thing I ate was the steak. And then I had the soup.

[Francis]

I. I just wanted to spread it around. I. I like to be. I thought. I wanted. That was their technique. They presented all those things right.

[Shane Gillis]

That stuff is gonna help. That's all for your tummy. Like, they're not giving you fermented mushrooms and cauliflower, like for, like, just for the taste palette.

[Roan]

I mean, you make it easier on your tummy list.

[Shane Gillis]

Huh?

[Roan]

Mushrooms are on my do not eat list. Number one.

[Francis]

Why?

[Roan]

I hate them.

[Francis]

Really? Yeah.

[Roan]

I can't eat them.

[Shane Gillis]

But they had other shit, though. They had other. There's other types of kimchi.

[Roan]

There was. There was shit that I was biting into that I was like, I don't know. I've never tasted this. I've never experienced this texture.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Like, new types of food we went to.

[Francis]

So we went to Cote, which is this high end sort of Korean steakhouse, and we were trying to figure out what to do and we just decided to go for the whole, like the Denny's Grand Slam breakfast of the place. Just everything. Just bring us everything. And they were cutting up the meat with scissors. I found that a little disconcerting.

[Roan]

Yeah, that was a little. And that was interesting.

[Shane Gillis]

It makes it feel like arts and crafts a little bit.

[Francis]

Yeah, it was like, oh, we were about to.

[Roan]

Let's get a blade out of your guys. Why are we using the scissors?

[Francis]

A chain of paper, Snowflakes. Yeah, it's kind of what I thought.

[Roan]

Especially because they were like the ones that have like the. Like the blue handles, like the kids ones.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

That made me uncomfortable.

[Francis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Roan]

The Crayola scissors.

[Francis]

The squiggly center. Yeah, the meat had a fucking squiggly border to it.

[Shane Gillis]

I thought you were gonna say that. You were a little bit. A little bit disappointed.

[Francis]

Here's what I was disappointed with. I found it to be a little kind of like Vegas y. I don't really know how else to put. Felt a little clubby meets gimmicky, like a catch steakhouse type vibe where you're like, oh, they have one of these in Miami and in Vegas and yeah. You know, it had been like as if it had been franchised and now they were just like rinse and repeating a formula. I didn't get the sense that this was like a place. It felt like the original crew that had come in and established quality control had long since moved on to other pastures.

[Roan]

They've been bought out.

[Francis]

And now there was a. That the original cast was gone and now the group that they hired off some Disney tour like Cruise.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Had come in to sing the songs. But everyone knew. I mean it was, it was a.

[Roan]

Zoo when we were leaving, like we were walking out. It was. I was like, this is not, this is not a fine dining.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. Old school. It felt like old school Wall street. Almost like dudes and like suits and like.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah. I mean it was really good. I guess I would just think that we probably missed the golden era of that spot by about six years, which is on me. That's on me. I chose. So no.

[Shane Gillis]

If people are going to come for your ass about that. I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure this place is incredible.

[Roan]

I'm sure coat will hit you up.

[Francis]

I hope they don't.

[Roan]

And be like, go yourself.

[Francis]

Yeah. I'll be like, why don't you sharpen your scissors? You.

[Shane Gillis]

They're safety scissors.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

They're putting the stakes together with a glue stick. That was shocked. Some drippy ass Elmers.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

For the wagyu.

[Francis]

It was cool. It was good. It didn't blow my mind. I mean the, the wagyu was like crazy. I'd never had anything like.

[Roan]

The steak was incredible.

[Shane Gillis]

Did you listen to Jerry and Terry talk about their getting. Getting that reservation for you?

[Francis]

No. Did they talk about it?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, they talked about it.

[Francis]

Oh boy.

[Shane Gillis]

On with biz.

[Francis]

Oh, no.

[Shane Gillis]

On their show.

[Francis]

What is that, the FOX sports one?

[Shane Gillis]

No, on, on what's it called, the show that they have together. What you called Quick. Quick picks. No, that's not it. Is it? Jerry and Terry.

[Roan]

House call.

[Shane Gillis]

House call. House call.

[Roan]

House call.

[Shane Gillis]

They talked about it though, and. But I think that they were more saying that they were aligning with your sentiment that the place that Terry got you, you could maybe walk into it that day.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Roan]

Coat.

[Shane Gillis]

No, no, no.

[Francis]

Cucina alba. He kept trying to.

[Roan]

Yes.

[Francis]

Cram that one down my throat.

[Roan]

Of course.

[Francis]

And I was, I looked as he was doing that, he was like, how's cucina alba sound?

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And then I looked it up and it was like 7pm, 7.30pm, 8pm Any party size 2 to 14 we got. And I was like, oh.

[Shane Gillis]

They said that. But they weren't saying names, though. They're being very discreet about which one. I mean, that people will know from listening to our Tuesday episode. But which one they were trying to get you into, which they called a 9 out of 10. Then they called Cucina Alba 7 out of 10.

[Francis]

Oh, I see. Yeah. They were trying to get us into Carbon. Should I not say the names?

[Shane Gillis]

We said it on the last episode.

[Francis]

Yeah. They were trying to sort Carbone.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Which, by the way, watching those two, like, almost. Which one of them could get the reservation.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Was really funny because Rico initially was like, I'm gonna. I'll try you for Carbone.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And then he, like, screenshotted the email response back being like, that shit. It was. It was someone being like, we're closed for a private event.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And then he was like. Started pushing me towards other spots. And then Jerry finally, clearly picked up his phone and saw it, and he goes, francis, you got to do Carbone. I'll sort it for you. And Rico was like, you can. It's closed. You're not going to be able to. Why waste your time? We've already moved on from Carbon. And then. And then. But Jerry was still like, I think I can. Yeah, I can make it work. Or whatever else. Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Carbone have a private club, too.

[Francis]

I don't know.

[Roan]

Where is carbon?

[Shane Gillis]

SoHo, I think there's, like, a private Carbon, too, which I thought that's where they would have a private event or something. Or like a member's Carbone or something like that.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Have you ever gotten there? They have. They sell their sauce at the grocery store. Carbon.

[Francis]

I've never had it.

[Roan]

I've had it. It's delicious. Made spaghetti with it.

[Shane Gillis]

Spaghetti? Yeah, the spicy. The spicy. Rigatoni sauce.

[Francis]

You gotta have it with rigatoni, not spaghetti, though.

[Roan]

It's each their own.

[Shane Gillis]

Have you even tried it with rigatoni?

[Roan]

No.

[Shane Gillis]

Maybe that's where we go next time. Carbon. If they could. If they could sort it for us.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

We call up judge. We call it Rizzo.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I think next time we go to, like, Chipotle. Ten minutes before we walk in.

[Shane Gillis]

Why?

[Roan]

Just keep things moving.

[Shane Gillis]

You didn't like this? You didn't like this sitting?

[Roan]

No, I liked it. I had a good time.

[Shane Gillis]

Unconvincing.

[Roan]

I don't know. I think it's just like dining. I don't know.

[Shane Gillis]

You don't like.

[Roan]

Think I get the reward that you guys get from going to Places like that.

[Francis]

I completely agree. And I can tell you a big part of that, which is that you don't drink. And that's to your credit. Like truly, those cocktails. Like I had a lychee martini and then we had that other one like in the drinks and we had wine. All of that is a huge part of what makes going out enjoyable.

[Roan]

Definitely.

[Francis]

And I don't know, I think I.

[Shane Gillis]

Would have had the time of my life even not boozing. Getting great food prepared for you was such a treat.

[Roan]

Yeah, I mean I said I had a good night about. I had a great time. Food was delicious.

[Shane Gillis]

I pulled a mad. I pulled a move twice this week that you would with heavily and that you'd be disgusted by that you would never even fucking Dane to do.

[Roan]

Do tell.

[Shane Gillis]

Twice this week I stopped and got dollar slices of pizza. Street.

[Roan]

Very nice.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't. When was the last time you ever got a dollar slice in your life? When's the last time you even looked at a piece of pizza?

[Francis]

Okay.

[Shane Gillis]

Without disdain, without.

[Francis]

I will tell you the truth of this. A week ago I had one. That was the first time I'd had one in probably eight months.

[Shane Gillis]

A dollar slice or just a piece of pizza?

[Francis]

I bought two slices. I think it was like four, five bucks. I don't remember exactly. It wasn't. It was not a nice place. It was not. It was like some place I just was walking by, realized I hadn't eaten dinner and went in there and got two slices. And then I went across the street and bought 35 worth of candy.

[Shane Gillis]

And then just stared into your mirror and then pushed it.

[Roan]

I hate you.

[Francis]

It was a lot lost evening. I was off. I was off my schedule. You know, the only reason I went and even got the pizza was because I saw the candy place and knew I wanted that.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, the base.

[Francis]

I wouldn't allow myself to have only candy.

[Roan]

Was it one of those candy places that you get to like fill up your own bag?

[Francis]

Correct.

[Roan]

Yeah, it's the best.

[Francis]

You pay by weight.

[Roan]

Yeah, I just went to one of those recently. A couple weeks ago.

[Background Vocalist or Music]

So.

[Roan]

Good.

[Francis]

Unbelievable.

[Roan]

Yeah, we used to go when I was younger. We used to go to one in Cape Cod, I think it was called Brewster Country Store. And they had good candy.

[Francis]

Yeah, there's the one that's from Brewster County Store. Everyone raves about now. Do you know what I'm talking about?

[Shane Gillis]

I don't think so.

[Francis]

They make those sort of sour Swedish fish.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[Francis]

You had those?

[Shane Gillis]

Yes. They're amazing.

[Francis]

My mouth Is absolutely torrential.

[Shane Gillis]

You brought some in one time too.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Yeah, you did. Those are so good.

[Francis]

Yeah, those are.

[Roan]

All those candies are good.

[Shane Gillis]

I've never gone to a candy shop like that where you just fill it up yourself.

[Francis]

Really? Really.

[Roan]

Oh, it's the best.

[Shane Gillis]

I've never filled it. I've never filled candy like that.

[Roan]

That's when you start. That's when you learn a lot about yourself. When you're at one of those.

[Francis]

Sounds like Roan only goes to places where they. They fill the bag for you.

[Roan]

Yeah, exactly. Self service.

[Francis]

Yeah, The New Jersey gas station.

[Shane Gillis]

Right after Halloween when it's on discount.

[Roan]

Is there any good full service candy stores around here?

[Francis]

Yeah, I'll take half a pint of the premium unleaded Swedish fish.

[Roan]

I've never understood that when people in Jersey are like. Yeah, I just never. They're like, people who are like, I don't. They don't know how to pump their own gas, like. Well, I grew up in Jersey. I just never learned. It's like. It's a button press. The fucking is the most intuitive thing.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And then put it where it goes. Pretty simple.

[Shane Gillis]

Put it in the hole. It's basic human anatomy.

[Francis]

Did you say that there's something weird about pumping gas?

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Like, I. I dated a girl many, many years ago whose mother had never filled up her own car with gas one time, not once in her life. And they weren't from New Jersey.

[Roan]

That's crazy.

[Francis]

She thought it was beneath her.

[Roan]

Yeah, because you rich.

[Shane Gillis]

Rich.

[Francis]

I don't know if this is still the case, but I remember, like, even in Maine when I was growing up there, there'd be one pump where you could get the guy to come.

[Roan]

We had like a full.

[Francis]

There'd be one full white glove service.

[Roan]

Yeah, we had like, there was like one. Not one pump, but there was this gas station in our town that was full service, but we rarely went there.

[Francis]

Yeah, I never. They would give us.

[Roan]

They would give us Tootsie Rolls.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, I always tip those brothers that fill it up in Jersey.

[Francis]

Yeah. Yeah. You gotta do that.

[Shane Gillis]

Changes their life.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I. I will go. I'll like, drive to Connecticut. To not have to do that.

[Shane Gillis]

To not tip.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Just because you don't know.

[Roan]

To not have to have someone else fill the tank.

[Shane Gillis]

Why?

[Roan]

I don't. I hate it.

[Francis]

I'm with you. It seems so.

[Roan]

It's so unnecessary.

[Shane Gillis]

It's kind of like having a bathroom attendant.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

It's just like, all right here.

[Roan]

Exactly.

[Background Vocalist or Music]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

But I thought there was going to.

[Roan]

Be a bathroom attendant at Coat went into the bathroom. I realized I was the only one in there.

[Francis]

That was a nice bathroom.

[Shane Gillis]

This is a one off bathroom.

[Francis]

I'd be very curious to pose this question to the audience. We. I checked beforehand and saw that Coat had a corkage fee of $65, limiting each group to two bottles at most. So I bought. I brought a bottle of my own wine.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

To the restaurant.

[Shane Gillis]

Some heat.

[Francis]

Me and Roan and his lovely wife to enjoy. And I don't know if that's like a major faux pas in a way. I don't know if that. If the restaurant sees that and it's like, ah, fucking.

[Roan]

They didn't seem to be bothered.

[Francis]

They didn't seem to be bothered by it at all. And maybe that's because we still like had a bunch of cocktails.

[Roan]

Yeah. It could have been you guys ordered the cocktails before you did the wine.

[Shane Gillis]

I think that it gives the sommelier something to do.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

I think they're just sitting on their muffet the entire time. Fucking too much knowledge in their head and no one to share it with.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

I bet it's once a night that they get someone who actually knows any type of ball when it comes to wine.

[Francis]

It may be. But dude, I checked their wine list before we came.

[Roan]

1500 bottles it was.

[Francis]

Plus outrageous.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

How deep their wine list was.

[Roan]

She did. First thing that came up when I looked it up.

[Francis]

Yeah. But my point is, is that we brought. I brought this nice bottle. It was a 2011 Dominus. If, you know, hit that.

[Shane Gillis]

Hit that on Vivino for me one time. Sass. How much was that? How much is it? 2,000.

[Francis]

Go to wine Searcher Vivino and just.

[Roan]

Well, I don't have it down.

[Shane Gillis]

Here we go. 2011.

[Roan]

I don't think I have the app.

[Francis]

Dominus anyway, but, you know, it's like $65 corkage fee. If I had bought that off their menu, it would have been three times what I paid for it. So.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

But I don't know. I don't know if that's like something that a restaurant is like, oh, these people.

[Shane Gillis]

Every sip was a.

[Roan]

I don't really know. Like, is that like a super expensive bottle of wine? Yeah, it is.

[Shane Gillis]

What?

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Well, I just don't. I don't. I've literally. I think. I don't. I. I don't know if I've ever even had a full glass of wine ever. Just my life.

[Shane Gillis]

A little dip at church.

[Roan]

Like, not even if I had offered you a Sip.

[Francis]

Would you have taken it just to try it?

[Roan]

I mean, maybe, but.

[Francis]

I should have done that. I'm sorry.

[Shane Gillis]

No. He would have had to hand in his chip.

[Francis]

Oh, right.

[Roan]

No, I probably would have.

[Francis]

One sip of that, he's in the bathroom railing lines of coke all evening.

[Roan]

Skipp.

[Francis]

Skip. The whole show doesn't meet Judge, we don't see him again for a week.

[Roan]

If I had one sip of wine, me and Judge would have been at Yankee Stadium throwing the ball around.

[Francis]

Suicides.

[Background Vocalist or Music]

Bro.

[Roan]

We should go now.

[Francis]

Oh, that's great.

[Shane Gillis]

I mean, it's a great case for you to. But I'm not going to try to peer pressure you to get back in the game. No, no. Part of you was like, oh, that looks. That looks fun. It didn't seem like you were tempted.

[Roan]

At all that when we were there? No, not at all.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah.

[Francis]

When have you felt tempted? Is there a scene or a scenario that has tempted you?

[Roan]

Not in a long time, no. I used to like when I would go out with like comics and stuff, but I don't know. I mean that wasn't really like a. Like, I don't think anyone was really drinking like crazy there at that dinner. Yeah, no, not at the dinner end. At the show.

[Francis]

Yeah, at the show it was pretty.

[Roan]

I mean, Rome was blacked out by the end of the night, but outside of that, everyone seemed to be good.

[Shane Gillis]

This is par for the course. I came to play. I came to go hard. I came to give myself a tough next morning.

[Roan]

Rome was drinking a high noon at the end of the night that looked like it was like a custom. But custom cam. The gallon can.

[Francis]

Yeah, it was the gallon.

[Shane Gillis]

It was like the Heineken mini kegs.

[Francis]

Let's put it this way, if Rico had thrown that big T would be dead right now.

[Shane Gillis]

He couldn't have missed him.

[Roan]

Yeah, Would have gone through the wall.

[Shane Gillis]

It really looked like a warhead.

[Francis]

It was a. One of those German grenades they used to have. The stick grenades.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, it was a monster. I was trying to get after it.

[Roan]

Nothing wrong with that.

[Shane Gillis]

Trying to have a day.

[Roan]

No disrespect.

[Shane Gillis]

Then my in laws came up the next day. Went to like. I was like at a play place. Kids and a bunch of kids. Just a stark.

[Roan]

You guys watch the fights?

[Shane Gillis]

No, no, I was watching the. The free solo guy.

[Francis]

Yeah. I only watched the end of that.

[Roan]

I didn't watch that at all. I don't fuck with that dude.

[Francis]

Why?

[Roan]

He's so weird.

[Shane Gillis]

I think. I mean he has like you.

[Roan]

What's his Name?

[Francis]

Alex Honnold.

[Roan]

Honnold?

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

That guy's weird as.

[Francis]

Dude, you guys have a lot in common.

[Roan]

We couldn't have less in common. Have you ever watched Free Solo?

[Francis]

Of course I've watched like five times.

[Roan]

He is weird. I mean he thinks he's like Drake. Like he thinks it's like him like the biggest egos I think in the world. Alex Honnold, Jake from State Farm and then I guess like Drake but like deserve the red shirt like Drake deserves it.

[Francis]

Why do you say Jake from State Farm?

[Roan]

Because you can just tell he's just.

[Shane Gillis]

Going back the way he walks around.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

You put him at NBA All Star.

[Roan]

Weekend course with the State Farm Bomber on.

[Francis]

I did a, I did a corporate gig in Vegas a year and a half ago where Alex Honnold was the keynote speaker and then I was the entertainment performing after. So I got to watch his whole presentation and it was amazing.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

What was he saying?

[Francis]

Well it was really just the story of Free Solo with a bunch of slides and stuff. But then he'd found a way to sort of tie that into like having messaging about business and motivation and goal building and stuff like that. And it was pretty darn well done. I thought he was well spoken and obviously there's a pretty clear metaphor there. Like his, his ascent.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, well him having a lizard body and like a hyper focused autism to let him conquer any task and then go into a corporate retreat instead of saying like copy. This is like, like Michael Jordan being like just come be good at basketball. Like he was built in a factory to like climb. He's just like a lizard who can like clean six plates.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

And just like he's so physically strong.

[Francis]

No, but I, you know his, his couched message is if, if I can go from the base of El Cap to the top in two and a half hours then you can go from junior vice president to senior vice president in a year if you continue to put your spreadsheets in order or something. I don't know.

[Roan]

I feel like there's a leg. I, I get it. But I died. I don't know.

[Shane Gillis]

When a corporate, when a corporate like retreat comes to you with a bag, you make the fucking speech work.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, you connect the dots and you're like. And this is how this applies.

[Roan]

He's getting paid up. Yeah.

[Francis]

What do you think he made for.

[Roan]

That 500 grand you think?

[Francis]

No, I don't think it was that. I bet it was.

[Roan]

Free Solo is so big.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

It changed things.

[Roan]

Like that's like Gotta be one of the biggest documentaries ever.

[Shane Gillis]

He said he got. He said he got Slave by Netflix. He said that you'd be shocked to find out how little they paid him.

[Francis]

Yeah. And then he did the live thing. And I bet you he got paid a billion dollars.

[Roan]

Exactly.

[Francis]

It's a rookie deal. And then you get your fucking bag.

[Roan]

It's a rookie deal from a dude who's. Who was pretty much homeless at the time that they recorded it.

[Francis]

By choice. Yeah, by choice. He had eschewed the glamour of, you know, major.

[Roan]

But was he already famous when Free.

[Francis]

Solo came out in the rock climbing community?

[Roan]

So now.

[Francis]

It was known of.

[Roan]

He.

[Francis]

He was known novelly as a. As the free. As the guy who free soloed everything. Yeah, he was the one who like really?

[Roan]

But now he's no. Like now he's like put that term into the zeitgeist. He's probably rich as fuck now.

[Francis]

Well, he's doing these corporate gigs then my guess would be yeah, I bet you he got 200 GS for that.

[Roan]

Yeah. He's on tour. You think he's got a tour bus or do you think he just runs everywhere?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, he gallops this full body lizard crawls. It was sick though. But it is like everybody's just watching.

[Roan]

It being like, is he gonna die? Yeah, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

But there's no other. Even like nascar. It's like they put helmets and safety precautions on people. Like if he had died, that was like a pretty unprecedented thing that they, they put him out of it.

[Roan]

Like what happens if like so say that they're recording that and he dies. What happens?

[Shane Gillis]

10 second delay.

[Roan]

10 second delay.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah. So they just don't show it.

[Roan]

Oh, but still like people would know.

[Shane Gillis]

Well they would know. Yeah, for sure. And there'd be. I mean there's a thousand people. Every window he passed there was just somebody like filming him.

[Roan]

That. That was actually the only thing that I was like. That's kind of. I feel like that was kind of dumb. Like, don't. Like, if I was him I would be like, get these people away from the windows.

[Francis]

But isn't it probably true that if Alex Honnold agreed to do that on live tv that without saying it, his ascent of that building is a hundred times easier than.

[Roan]

Than like what we all think.

[Francis]

Free Soloing El Cap, like that's a walk in the park.

[Roan]

I would say so.

[Shane Gillis]

It's walking the stairs.

[Roan]

It's truly like there were ladder. Yeah, there were like. You didn't have ledges.

[Francis]

He didn't have to hold his whole weight. Using this last part of your finger. Just that part from there to there, you know.

[Roan]

You guys ever seen El Cap in person?

[Francis]

No. I'd like to.

[Roan]

It's fucking.

[Shane Gillis]

Where is it?

[Roan]

Yosemite.

[Shane Gillis]

I've never seen it.

[Roan]

It's insane. It's like it almost goes like out. Like I think you're hanging at the end.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, it's like. I think that's how this building kind.

[Roan]

Of was like an 80 degree angle.

[Shane Gillis]

Maybe not 80 degrees, but it had like 70 slant out. Like a pagoda.

[Roan]

Yeah, that's what it looks like.

[Shane Gillis]

Imagine how strong his fingers are. Never even think about.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

How lucky his wife is.

[Roan]

I know. If she is, he's still dating the girl from Free Solo.

[Francis]

I think he's married. I don't know if it's that.

[Shane Gillis]

They have a kid together.

[Francis]

Kids. I've told this before, but I went skydiving with him once.

[Roan]

Yeah, you guys go way back.

[Francis]

Just randomly. We were on the same plane and it was the same skydiving facility that we used for that most dangerous game show.

[Shane Gillis]

Which is the most deadly skydiving facility in the United States.

[Francis]

Well, otherwise Alex Honnold wouldn't have been there. True. He was like, what place is the place that has the highest likelihood of failure?

[Roan]

I can't think of someone I would rather go skydiving with less than that guy.

[Shane Gillis]

Why?

[Roan]

That's the kind of guy like if you were nervous, he's probably getting up in your face.

[Francis]

No.

[Roan]

What, are you going to cry?

[Francis]

I think you have the wrong idea.

[Roan]

I climbed up in two hours.

[Francis]

Honey.

[Roan]

Dude, we might recognize me from Netflix. You guys could. You guys could go like credit for credit.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

He comes on Netflix. You're like, oh, first time?

[Francis]

Yeah. Too bad. I was paid 1/100th of what he was for that corporate gig.

[Roan]

I really have nothing against him at all. Just bullshitting.

[Shane Gillis]

He's just bullying. He was like your boy.

[Roan]

I like the. I liked the guy from the alpinist though.

[Francis]

He was good.

[Roan]

Good people.

[Francis]

More your speed. Andreas didn't seek the spotlight.

[Roan]

No.

[Francis]

Not performative.

[Roan]

Not performative.

[Shane Gillis]

I mean, rock climbing has to be the most performative sport. 100% more so than even ones that have a hundred thousand people there.

[Roan]

You should see where El Cap is in like in the park in Yosemite. It's front. It was like someone was like, where are the most people gonna see me climbing? And they picked that one. It overlooks like every parking lot in the entire park.

[Shane Gillis]

Big old pick me. I wonder what gets his, like, if anything else gets his engines going.

[Roan]

No.

[Shane Gillis]

In, like, the normal.

[Roan]

A normal day, nothing.

[Shane Gillis]

How bad he needs this?

[Francis]

Well, that's when I was like, why are. I asked him, I was like, why are you skydiving? And he was like, I don't know. Just to do it. He was getting his license so he could jump solo.

[Shane Gillis]

I bet maybe there's going to be times when he's going to want to jump off a mountain.

[Roan]

I would assume that would probably be way better. Imagine, like, free soloing. Probably would be so much more fun if you could. When you got to the top, you knew that you could parachute off.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Roan]

Right?

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

But how do you know? How can you get, like, far enough off of the.

[Roan]

You just got to jump.

[Shane Gillis]

Just push yourself off.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah. What else is going on? There's so much going on.

[Roan]

Patriots are in the super bowl again.

[Shane Gillis]

Congrats, brother.

[Roan]

Thank you.

[Shane Gillis]

I knew you guys would be back.

[Roan]

Of course. It's cool that it just.

[Francis]

Now this is, like, finally your era. Of your team.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I mean, because the first era, you were. You weren't, like, conscious.

[Roan]

I mean, I've been to the super bowl parades, so.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, but you were sitting on someone's shoulders.

[Francis]

Yeah. You're sitting.

[Roan]

I was 18.

[Francis]

Sitting on your dad's shoulders.

[Shane Gillis]

Fact remains.

[Francis]

Late bloomer.

[Roan]

Yeah. Pretty great. Pretty crazy. Who would have thought? Me, I thought.

[Shane Gillis]

Did you go to school with that kid, Miguel Cuddy? Are you the same age as Miguel.

[Roan]

Cuddy McGillicuddy, the dude who had, like.

[Shane Gillis]

The sign, who was, like, 11 years old and eight or, like, and 12 new New England championships, and now he's, like, 24. He, like, grew up with Dave.

[Roan]

Oh, no. I don't think me. I don't think we knew each other, but yeah, maybe around, like, we probably have similar.

[Francis]

He's probably his age.

[Shane Gillis]

He definitely is.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

I wonder how we could. How I could look this dude up. You know who I'm talking about?

[Roan]

Oh, yeah. 25. No. Yeah.

[Francis]

He's older than you.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, he is.

[Francis]

I don't know.

[Shane Gillis]

I thought he was younger.

[Roan]

It keeps bringing me back to that conversation that I had with Aryan at. Yeah. At the Ryder cup, where I said, you think the Patriots are going to be the good this year? I think. And I was like, I think they're going to be really good. And he was like, what would make you think that? So that's all I have to say on that.

[Francis]

I'll be honest with you. I don't really know why I asked for Clarification on Aryan. He is the only Aryan I know.

[Roan]

Yeah, I mean, it was. I remember it very vividly. I remember sitting at the bar in the clubhouse and. And honestly, like the whole year in the back of my head, every time the Patriots have performed well, you thought about that and been like, no, they must suck. There must be something I'm not seeing. That's why I'm just going to. I'm not going to say anything else. That's all I have to say.

[Francis]

That win was pretty gritty. I mean, that was pretty fun. Which game did you prefer?

[Shane Gillis]

The second one. Yeah, I mean, the second one was way better. Take your team out of it.

[Roan]

Yeah, the second game was unbelievable.

[Francis]

But that's just. See, my taste is. I prefer a 10, 7 win in a foot of snow management. That's playoff football to me.

[Roan]

They were. I thought they were both great games. I think the argument that everyone has against the Patriots and being like, it's an easy schedule, easiest path to the super bowl, it's like, I don't really know how much different that game would have been if Bo Nix was there.

[Francis]

Like, well, maybe they get that first down on the fourth down.

[Roan]

It may be. I don't know.

[Francis]

It's cool to me when the most important player on the field becomes the punter.

[Roan]

Oh, yeah, I like that.

[Francis]

Yeah, that's fun.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, that is nice. Yeah, every. Every punt was high stakes. But, I mean, you can't say that it would have been different if they're like, Pro bowl quarterback was there, bro.

[Roan]

The quarterbacks, they were like Francis said, they weren't the most important guys on the field.

[Shane Gillis]

I mean, Drake made this.

[Roan]

Unless RJ Harvey was planning on breaking loose for 300 yards, then they're not getting that win.

[Shane Gillis]

But. But we saw how much Drake May was running the ball. Bo Nix could have ran the ball like that.

[Roan]

He hasn't got it like that.

[Francis]

What?

[Roan]

He doesn't got it like, he might.

[Francis]

Have it like that.

[Roan]

Like Drake wiggle.

[Shane Gillis]

He has more wiggle than May.

[Francis]

I think that we're talking about the.

[Roan]

MVP of the season right now.

[Shane Gillis]

Stafford.

[Roan]

Stafford's going to Cancun. Stafford's checking his inbound flight from Chicago going, I hope I'm not getting delayed again.

[Francis]

Yeah, he's flying commercial.

[Shane Gillis]

It's a regular season award, brother. Drake May, this postseason has five touchdowns and five interceptions.

[Roan]

We've played the. We've played two of the hardest defenses in the league.

[Francis]

The two hardest.

[Roan]

The two hardest defenses in the league, which is so crazy because everyone was like, like going into both of these games, everyone's been like, the Patriots are gonna get fucking. In all three games, they were favored.

[Shane Gillis]

What are you talking about?

[Roan]

Obviously this game was a little different.

[Shane Gillis]

But last game they were favorite too.

[Roan]

Everyone I was seeing, everyone I was talking to this weekend was like, broncos are going to smoke you guys because.

[Shane Gillis]

They don't like you, because they're trying to hurt your feelings. They don't want to see you happy. Don't you get it?

[Roan]

All I'm saying is I. And also, like, look, the thing that. The thing that really bothers me is that if the Seahawks are really fucking good, obviously they're an insanely good team. I've already said, I think we're like, it's going to be a tough game. If we win that game, I'll be. I'll be. I would be surprised. But if we win that game, everyone's going to be like, well, Sam Darnold, you're going up against Sam Darnold in the Super Bowl.

[Shane Gillis]

I've never say that.

[Roan]

Yeah, you would.

[Shane Gillis]

No, I wouldn't.

[Roan]

Everyone will. Everyone will say that Sam Darnold has.

[Shane Gillis]

More wins over the last two seasons than any quarterback ever.

[Roan]

Doesn't matter. People aren't going to listen to that. They're going to say, ah, it's Sam Darnold.

[Shane Gillis]

I mean, I think that you guys are going to get smoked, but no one will be celebrating harder on a duck boat than me. If and when the Patriots do that.

[Roan]

Thing, I think we could win it. I mean, I. I honestly think we could pretty easily. I know. I think it's going to be closer than people think.

[Shane Gillis]

Let's do a Super bowl watch party.

[Roan]

Yeah, I'm gonna be at the game, bro. No, I don't think I'm gonna go. I looked at tickets last night. 8, 000 a pop.

[Shane Gillis]

That 1008.

[Francis]

Oh, wait, let me check.

[Roan]

That was. That was day. That was day. Or that was like 30 minutes after the game ended.

[Francis]

I'm gonna check game time.

[Shane Gillis]

There's gotta be better deals on game time.

[Francis]

Let's see here.

[Roan]

My buddies keep hitting me up, being like, you gotta, like, you. You gotta know someone, right? And I'm like, dude, I don't know. Like, I know someone that can get us into Shane's shows or pop punk. Yeah, like, this is. We're talking about someone giving away like $50,000 worth of tickets.

[Francis]

Harry. There's a. There's. Right now the lowest price is $6,119.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

For a ticket.

[Roan]

It'll get down.

[Shane Gillis]

San Fran is a bad place to.

[Roan]

Have it because the Seahawks are close.

[Shane Gillis]

And have money out there.

[Francis]

True.

[Shane Gillis]

But bro, people are rich in San Fran.

[Roan]

It's like $20,000 for Sam Altman's gas. Probably already bought half the fucking seats.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, he's probably doing a live ad with like flip cards or something like that.

[Roan]

His gay ass.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, my God, dude. Isn't it shocking to find out that he's gay? Yeah, shocking and disappointing as hell. Breaks your heart. I want my tech moguls to like.

[Francis]

I'm trying to think.

[Roan]

I want my tech moguls to like nothing other than tech.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, exactly. I don't want them pretending that they're good at Diablo or going to the club in San Trope like Musk and Bezos.

[Francis]

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[Shane Gillis]

Wait, I'm sorry to interrupt that they were. They were selling that at Coat.

[Francis]

I remember I saw that.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh yeah, they had Zbiotic. We literally just talked about that.

[Francis]

And it specifically said have. Have this as your first drink. Yes.

[Shane Gillis]

It was like top left of the menu. Yeah, it was cool.

[Roan]

I'd never seen that.

[Francis]

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[Roan]

That might be the craziest thing ever. That Musk tried to lie about being good at Diablo.

[Francis]

That's been confirmed.

[Roan]

It's just not possible.

[Francis]

What?

[Roan]

He claimed that he was top 20 in the world on Diablo.

[Francis]

Yeah, but that went on for so long that I thought by the time that someone would have. I thought I just accepted that as true.

[Roan]

I think people just accepted that he boosted. He had someone boost his account. There's no unless. Elon Musk does nothing ever. It's not possible.

[Francis]

I think he does a lot.

[Roan]

Yeah, exactly. Unless he's literally just mounted at his PC 24 hours a day, he's not top 20 in Diablo.

[Francis]

I don't think he sleeps very much. I know that.

[Shane Gillis]

But he probably has some preternatural packaged chained up in his, like, gaming room.

[Roan]

Exactly.

[Francis]

That could be destroying shit.

[Roan]

You got to play. It's not even like the. It's not even like the scale. It's like what it takes to maintain that status is you have to play literally every day, all day.

[Shane Gillis]

Why would he lie? Why would he want to look cool?

[Roan]

Because that's all he wants, is to look cool.

[Shane Gillis]

It was that. Is there a podcast that has billionaires on it? Is it. Is there, like, a podcast that has, like, four dudes that are like. They're always just on. Like, it's basically looks like a zoom call, but, like, you look into the dudes, and they're super powerful and smart.

[Roan]

Guys, I would assume.

[Francis]

I haven't seen that, but I do keep getting DMS from just these accounts that have, like, 1.4 million followers.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And it's just. You go click on it, and it's some dude with, like, tribal tattoos on.

[Roan]

Yachts, and are they asking you to come?

[Francis]

Oh, they. All. They. All they do is they DM me, and they just go, francis. That's all they write.

[Roan]

I like that. That's a good strategy, honestly.

[Francis]

Yeah. And then I once. I think I opened one, and then they. And I was like, what's up? And they're like, hey, I like your account, but I can help you grow it.

[Roan]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

Or something. So I'm just curious. I mean, how do they get all those? Is they just buying them all?

[Roan]

That's how they can help.

[Francis]

Right?

[Roan]

I got asked to do one of those podcasts years ago. This was probably, like, three years ago. I got a TM from. From an account, and it was like. All I saw was, like, just, like, the preview of the message, and it was like, Our podcast gets 18 million views per episode. And I clicked on it, and it was Travis Kelsey. I pretty much. I was like. I was like, well, I feel like I probably have to do this. Right? And I clicked on. It was one of those ones where it's just like, tribal tattoo guy and then, like, 18 OnlyFans girls.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And he's just destroyed, like, just pretty much just belittling their entire life.

[Francis]

Yeah. Dan Bilzerians.

[Roan]

Yeah, exactly.

[Shane Gillis]

What were you invited to do on that?

[Roan]

I guess just go and just fucking roast Onlyfans Girls.

[Shane Gillis]

Oh, you were gonna debate with Onlyfans Girls, or were you gonna be one of the only fanging girls debating against the Jack guy?

[Roan]

No, I think I was supposed to be one of the Jack guys. This was back when I was working out a little bit.

[Shane Gillis]

So you're gonna dest, like, destroy Only Fans Girls?

[Roan]

Yeah, I guess that's what they wanted. They wanted me for that.

[Shane Gillis]

Rate yourself. Yeah, one to 10. Rate yourself. And you can't say seven.

[Roan]

And you can't say seven. And you got to factor in.

[Shane Gillis]

God, are you high value.

[Francis]

I've never understood the, the how. Why the cup site is named only Fans. Shouldn't it be named like lonely fans?

[Roan]

D That's what you would think. But I guess it's only for the real fans. I think it was.

[Francis]

Oh, that's what it is, I would assume. Well, that makes.

[Shane Gillis]

I think it didn't start off as porno.

[Roan]

Yeah, it started out like. Well, I think they've like accepted that it's a porn site now. But I just remember, I remember like a couple years ago. I've said this like a hundred times, but they put out like an ad on Twitter. Only Fans did about like, just like come join Only Fans. And they highlighted pretty much every single thing outside of pornography. They were like, it's a great website. Like tons of entertainers use it, magicians use it. Like actors use it, like all this shit. And they just didn't say anything about porn. And then they kind of got destroyed for that. And then I think they kind of had to embrace it.

[Shane Gillis]

It's the easiest thing to sell that way. You just can't sell magic that way.

[Roan]

Yeah, no one's paying for magic online.

[Francis]

I. I just remembered I have a confession to make to you guys.

[Roan]

You're a magician?

[Francis]

No. On Saturday, I walked down into the trash compactor room at my place upstate and I fished out the bag of weed and it had all the broken glass shards in it and I picked through them to take nuggets out, the pre rolls and the jars of weed out.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, Was there, was there loose nuggies?

[Francis]

And then I was on today when I left, I was again so upset with myself that I actually took the jars and dumped the loose nugs down the chute so that I actually won't use them.

[Roan]

You're gonna be back in there tonight.

[Francis]

I spoiled them.

[Roan]

Hands and knees.

[Shane Gillis]

I got a flight at 6am out of LaGuardia. I could drive up to upstate, grab the nugs and then drive back down.

[Francis]

It's bad. Bad.

[Roan]

I think you got it. You got. You can't put that much pressure on.

[Francis]

Yourself to go from 60 to zero. I mean, you did. That's how you stopped drinking. You went cold turkey.

[Roan]

Yeah, but that's. Yeah, I guess that's true.

[Shane Gillis]

I think that you were okay to be smoking some upstate. You're Upstate is the weekend.

[Francis]

Well, when I'm upstate, that's. That's what I do. It's right. And it's like an every night thing. Whereas When I'm here, for some reason, I don't do it every night.

[Roan]

Maybe you got swap. Start smoking in the city, start not smoking upstate.

[Shane Gillis]

No, it's because you could go to spots in the city.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Brain going in other ways when you're in the city.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

When you're going upstate, that's what you should be smoking. That's what you have a fucking home for. It is in wilderness.

[Francis]

It is nice. And you have the fire going. And you're watching a movie. Yeah, I watched. I watched half of the Ring this weekend.

[Roan]

Oh, yeah?

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Which I never seen it.

[Francis]

I've seen the Ring two and I've seen the Ring three, and I didn't.

[Roan]

Even know there were. There was a second and a third.

[Francis]

I've never watched the original. And then I was looking that up and I didn't even know that there was an original Japanese version.

[Roan]

Oh, I didn't know that either.

[Francis]

And then I. Oh, and did you know that? And people say that the original Japanese version. Of course.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

But actually, AI did a really good job of summarizing the differences between the two. The Japanese version is more ethereal and thought provoking and all that, whereas. And less jump scary and more, like, disturbing.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Whereas the. The American one, which is very good, is more jump scary.

[Roan]

Interesting. What, what, what model are you using on chat gbt or are you.

[Francis]

I just Google a question and then whatever that thing that comes up. What is that? That's Google's AI Gemini.

[Roan]

That is Gemini.

[Francis]

Gemini, yeah. Huh.

[Roan]

Gemini. I think I might be like one of the most useless things ever created.

[Francis]

What a ridiculous take.

[Roan]

It is so bad. And it's shocking how wrong it is almost always. It used to be like, you'd be like, wow, this thing's kind of has some, like, accuracy problems on, like, what it's saying. And then now it's just like, oh, you're wrong almost every time.

[Francis]

Well, I haven't watched the Japanese version of the Ring yet, but I'll get back to you. That's all I have.

[Roan]

I'm anti bro. I'm anti AI. And honestly, I think it might be the only thing I think about. Just all I think about is how.

[Shane Gillis]

Much I hate it.

[Roan]

I just watch YouTube videos about it 24 hours a day.

[Shane Gillis]

Wait till you find out who's making those YouTube videos.

[Roan]

I know, right?

[Shane Gillis]

It's A.I.

[Roan]

It'S just dumb.

[Francis]

Well, why did.

[Shane Gillis]

Why, why does it even bother you? Why are you even thinking about it?

[Roan]

Because I. Well, for starters, because I want to get fucking 32 gigs of RAM and I can't.

[Shane Gillis]

Why?

[Roan]

Because AIs ruined it. It's taken all of the equipment, all the. All the gear.

[Shane Gillis]

So there's just not gear for you.

[Roan]

You can't. Like, right now I have. I have no storage left on my PC and I need more ram and I can't get either of them because it would literally be the cost of a brand new PC just to add storage.

[Francis]

You told me last week you wanted to build a PC for me. Why would we do that? Can you tell me why that would be good for me?

[Roan]

No, there's really no reason.

[Francis]

What would. What would I. What would I do? What would I get to. If I would just.

[Roan]

You just have a super fast computer, but like, you.

[Shane Gillis]

For what?

[Francis]

For what? What do I need that for?

[Roan]

Anything. You know, like, what's cool about a PC is like, you could use it as. And you could use it for anything. So, like, you could use it as like. Like you could have it upstate. You could use it as. You could. You could watch a movie.

[Francis]

My Apartment.

[Roan]

It would. I mean, yeah, it would definitely keep.

[Francis]

Why would watching a movie on it be better? What would that do?

[Roan]

It's a great question.

[Francis]

Versus my 65 inch LED TV.

[Roan]

You'd still watch it on that.

[Francis]

Oh, so I'd pipe it in, but you could plug it in from my PC and what would. The resolution would be higher?

[Roan]

Probably. You could probably get it on like, you probably get some good 4k movies gone.

[Francis]

Do I not have 4k movies right now?

[Roan]

Probably do.

[Francis]

I just paid up for. Oh, you know what? I. I noticed that I went into. I would. This fucking Netflix thing of the household management. Drives me crazy. Yeah, it's fucking insane because I think there are people. I didn't. I knew there were people and I thought it was my own family that had access or knew. So. So I was continually getting bumped out of my own account in different places, like on my iPad and all that. So finally I was like, I just want to go in once and for all and set this all up, start over. And so I went in on my laptop and checked to see who had my account. And it was just. Honestly, it was just me and an ex of fine.

[Roan]

Oh, really?

[Francis]

And so I immediately signed everybody out, changed my password and started fresh. And there's a lot of satisfaction.

[Roan]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

That comes from knowing you logged someone else out. That an ex of yours is no longer going to have access.

[Shane Gillis]

Were they watching the shows before you or you were getting booted was the.

[Francis]

Main problem Getting booted Yeah, bro.

[Roan]

I was getting booted from HBO like a year ago, and I did the same thing. I logged in to see where I was, where I was getting booted from, and it was the Funny Bone in Albany. Yeah. I logged in when we were there with Brandon to what we. I put on South Park.

[Francis]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Roan]

And I never logged out. And they were just using everybody who goes, yeah, but do get this.

[Francis]

So by eliminating the ability for this other person that I had given access to my Netflix account, it took my Netflix subscription costs from like 2399amonth down to 1699amonth. And I was like, wow, wow, huge win. And then as I was doing that, I immediately saw, would you like to upgrade your account to have 4k instead of this? As well as you can have like five simultaneous devices watching at once instead of three with the regular. And I was like, well, it's the same cost I've been paying and I'm doing fine making ends meet.

[Shane Gillis]

Let me call my ex. So let me get her ass back on the plane. Let me call a couple exes.

[Francis]

I just upgraded myself. Yeah, to now 4K.

[Shane Gillis]

So you're paying the same with just a little bit higher resolution, but your only satisfaction is that your ex isn't on it.

[Francis]

Nobody else can use it except me.

[Shane Gillis]

You, you swapped resolution for X. Yeah.

[Roan]

Yeah, it's a good trade off.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, they just balanced out either side. Yeah, they got you so bad. Netflix fucking got your ass.

[Francis]

They sure did. They sure did.

[Roan]

Isn't it crazy how expensive it is now? Remember when it first came out, it was what, like eight bucks a month?

[Francis]

Yeah, but what would that get you? A DVD in the mail?

[Roan]

Oh, I meant like when the streaming thing came out first.

[Francis]

Look, let's be honest, the library of options has vastly improved. I think Netflix deserves what I pay it. That's if. If my life, if I lost my job and my income shrank, my subscription to Netflix would be one of the last sacrifices that I would make.

[Roan]

I think Netflix would be my. It might be first to go get out. It might be first to go.

[Francis]

The only thing that would be below that would be Spotify for me.

[Roan]

I'm HBO over Netflix every day of the week. I think they're owned, but they're all both owned by the same company.

[Francis]

Yeah, right.

[Shane Gillis]

So that's your. Both of your guys top streaming app. I was asking people that this weekend, if you, if you could only have one, it would be Netflix.

[Roan]

Well, mine would be YouTube Premium, but not YouTube.

[Shane Gillis]

YouTube TV doesn't count?

[Roan]

No. YouTube Premium.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, I think that's, that's what I said, YouTube.

[Roan]

But if I had to go like with just one of the traditional ones, I'm going HBO.

[Francis]

Yeah, but YouTube Premium, all that does is just give you YouTube without ads.

[Roan]

Yeah, but I. Well, you can also watch movies on there.

[Francis]

What?

[Roan]

You could like rent movies from YouTube on YouTube Premium. The same way you would like Amazon with Prime.

[Francis]

Uh huh. How's that versus renting them on prime versus renting on them on Apple tv.

[Roan]

I think it's all the same thing.

[Francis]

Are you sure? Yeah, I feel like you would know.

[Roan]

It's just, it's just a renting. You're just renting it.

[Francis]

I would bet that one of them has a better.

[Roan]

You know, if I had to guess, I would say it's probably. Amazon is probably the cheapest, but I think the prices are all very similar, if not the same everywhere.

[Francis]

Okay. Do you know anything about the frame TV from Samsung brother?

[Shane Gillis]

You know that I keep one in my home?

[Francis]

I was speaking to both of you.

[Roan]

No, I don't know what it is, but I'm familiar with Samsung.

[Shane Gillis]

It's amazing.

[Francis]

Is it?

[Shane Gillis]

We have different art up every day.

[Francis]

Okay, I'm going to get one. They sell them on. I've been, I've been on. I've been really digging deep on Facebook, Marketplace.

[Roan]

You know what you should get if you're going to make a big tech purchase is get an OLED tv.

[Francis]

You mentioned that. Yeah, they make one from. For the. I think the frame comes in an OLED version.

[Roan]

Well, don't get it for a. Get it for a tv, not a frame.

[Shane Gillis]

Remember when they were selling fucking curved TVs for a while?

[Francis]

It's not a frame, it's a TV.

[Roan]

Yeah, but it's for art. No, you like put art up on it. I thought it was like a, like one of those like picture frames. But it's just bigger.

[Shane Gillis]

No, it's a tv.

[Roan]

It's an actual tv. It's a whole TV and it's oled.

[Shane Gillis]

You're thinking of the thing that we have.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

You're thinking of aura frames.

[Roan]

I thought it was like a big aura frame. I mean, I guess that's that crazy an assumption. You said we put art. We have new art in it every day.

[Francis]

The art is the screensaver so that it doesn't look like a black tv. It just is a nicer version of a tv.

[Roan]

That's a good. You're gonna get, you're gonna burn right through that screen. You're gonna be watching fucking Batman one day and you're gonna still be seeing artwork on the screen.

[Francis]

Monet's water lily.

[Roan]

Can't keep that thing running 24 hours a day. Tell me you're at least cleaning the pixels.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm not. I never.

[Roan]

Routine pixel cleaning.

[Shane Gillis]

Always running.

[Roan]

That's bad.

[Shane Gillis]

It's always running.

[Roan]

That's not good.

[Shane Gillis]

It's built for that. It's built for there to be a display of art on it whenever you're not. If you turn it off, the screen doesn't go black. It goes to whatever art you selected.

[Roan]

Let me give this thing a quick Google.

[Francis]

It's the thing. Everybody has this thing and I want one.

[Shane Gillis]

You need. You need one. It's going to be the thing.

[Francis]

I'm going to get one.

[Shane Gillis]

Makes you happy.

[Francis]

Happy.

[Roan]

It looks nice.

[Francis]

Yeah, they're not that expensive, dude.

[Roan]

Shocking how. Oh, this thing's.

[Francis]

TVs are cheap. TVs are cheap because the. There's so many different types and the technology jumps forward leaps and bounds every second year.

[Shane Gillis]

I think you have to pay to subscribe for the art though, bro.

[Francis]

Is this.

[Shane Gillis]

I think you have to. Like, really? Yeah, I think it's something like that. It doesn't come and so if that's the case, that might be my favorite streaming service.

[Roan]

Well, this thing is insane.

[Francis]

The big key for me on the Samsung frame TV is actually getting one with a frame.

[Roan]

So you just want to. So just get art. Just buy art.

[Francis]

I want to be able to watch TV on my art through a glass frame. Look, if you told me right now that there was a painting out there that had the ability for me to watch Hard Knocks, yeah. I would sign up immediately. Unfortunately, all we have are TVs that do art part time.

[Roan]

I will say I looked it up. It is cool.

[Shane Gillis]

But not trying to shit on this.

[Roan]

I think we can do better. I think you guys, it's the best.

[Shane Gillis]

We have for now.

[Roan]

You got to get a nice OLED tv.

[Francis]

But does OLED T do they? Can I watch art?

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, you're not gonna be able to watch art. And the way that you'll cycle through and have it be seasonally appropriate.

[Roan]

You're paying. What you're paying for here is the convenience of the art you're not paying for.

[Francis]

Art is never convenient.

[Roan]

It is when it's attached to a tv.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't think it's just the convenience. I think that people have never had the chance to have multiple. Like art.

[Roan]

We're literally talking. We're talking about a Background on a desktop right now. That's what we're describing.

[Shane Gillis]

We're describing. Yeah, you don't get saying you turn.

[Roan]

It off and the picture stays up. This is not new technology.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, but the artists are getting paid. Like some of this money's going into Monet's pocket. Don't you want the artists to get paid?

[Roan]

If the artists are getting paid, it must be like for every 7,000 hours you have one of the pieces of art up, they get one cent.

[Francis]

Didn't you, didn't you like this five seconds ago?

[Roan]

Oh, I still do think it looks good. I'm not, I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying I think we can do better.

[Shane Gillis]

Why don't you just make your own then? If you're so technologically savvy? Just put a fucking spruced up screensaver on something.

[Roan]

Then I'll show, I'll show you my OLED when I get home.

[Shane Gillis]

But I'm saying you put a screensaver up, you have it on the wall, you have it mounted.

[Roan]

I'm telling you, once you go oled, like, it's like looking at your phone makes you like.

[Francis]

You're like, oh, how much was your oled? Fuck, how much are they?

[Roan]

My monitor. I have an OLED monitor, not tv. And it was expensive. It was the same. It was probably the same price as the Samsung frame.

[Francis]

How much is an OLED tv? Dude, you can buy all these things on Facebook, Marketplace. Inevitably there's somebody right now living in Queens who just lost everything and they need to dump everything they can for whatever they can get.

[Roan]

I mean, the OLED TV would be the first to go, that's for sure.

[Shane Gillis]

I think that there's even better groups that are like, called like, pay for nothing.

[Roan]

Oh, here we go.

[Shane Gillis]

What is basically like a commune. I think you just like put your stuff into the, into the pot when you're done using it and then someone else takes it.

[Roan]

I think we found your next big purchase. Francis. Samsung. The Wall, a B series, it just blends in with 46 inches.

[Francis]

It blends in with the Wall.

[Roan]

We can pick it up at B H photo right after this. It's only 300 grams. How much? It's $220,000.

[Francis]

Yeah, that's a panel on the Jumbotron where the cowboys play.

[Roan]

That's what I like how it just has. It has an add to cart option. Yeah, I guess I'll just add this. And then at the bottom it says, this item cannot be cancelled or returned.

[Francis]

Oh, boy.

[Roan]

That's true. That can't be right. If you call them and you're like, hey, I made a mistake. Sorry, we can't do anything about that.

[Francis]

My wide load team canceled me.

[Shane Gillis]

Cuz that's four 70 inch TVs put together.

[Roan]

That's 146 inches.

[Francis]

That's a lot. Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

That's preposterous.

[Francis]

Do you have. How big is your TV? 65 or.

[Roan]

No, mine's like 55. My TV's pretty. My TV is definitely. Out of all my gear, it's lacking the most by a lot.

[Francis]

How big is your TV?

[Roan]

Nine.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm not sure.

[Francis]

You. I think you might be 75er. Maybe you strike me as 75er.

[Roan]

More.

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More.

[Francis]

I've been a 65 man, but I. I think I'm ready to go bigger.

[Shane Gillis]

Mine might be 85.

[Roan]

Honestly, Roan's is huge.

[Francis]

That's so cool.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Gaudy as hell. But big art. Big art's what they need.

[Francis]

Yeah, well, gaudy is a great painter.

[Shane Gillis]

See, if you had the frame tv, you would get his gaudy jokes.

[Roan]

What's the refresh rate on that thing?

[Shane Gillis]

It's like that.

[Roan]

No, it's not.

[Shane Gillis]

Yes, it is. It's so fucking. It's like this. Did you guys. Did you experience a lot of snow upstate?

[Francis]

Did I ever sucked? 17 and a half inches. What? 24 hours.

[Shane Gillis]

How'd you get out?

[Francis]

Slowly. Slowly. This morning I drove very slowly. The weather, the roads got better as I drove closer to the city.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You know, because there's all this like all that pollution leaks down the street.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Melts away the ice.

[Roan]

My street's closed still.

[Francis]

Yeah. But I drove upstate. Like for the first half hour there, my wheels were only touching snow.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

No pavement.

[Roan]

You get the chains going.

[Francis]

No, we're not in Tahoe on the Tesla.

[Shane Gillis]

Throw a chains on the Tesla. Wide tires.

[Roan]

I saw a dude on the moped last night. Swear to God.

[Francis]

Delivering.

[Roan]

Kicking up, kicking up snow. Oh, no, I was. I didn't do that. I'll be honest, I totally would have ordered UberEats. There was just too many tweets going around. Being like, you're a scumbag if you order UberEats right now.

[Shane Gillis]

But they're out trying to work.

[Roan]

That's what I do. That's exactly what I was like. They're out there.

[Shane Gillis]

It's not like they get paid no matter what.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

Take the day off. Yeah, I don't think you can.

[Roan]

But I didn't.

[Francis]

I. No.

[Roan]

No doordash. No Uber eats yesterday.

[Francis]

Oh, boy. I Just realized I have all this blood on my arm. That's from the bear.

[Shane Gillis]

Jesus.

[Francis]

A lot on. I ate bear for lunch.

[Shane Gillis]

Was it still bloody?

[Francis]

I guess. You see all that? That's bear blood.

[Shane Gillis]

How was the bear?

[Roan]

You ate bear?

[Francis]

Yeah, I had bear.

[Roan]

That's what you were just eating?

[Francis]

Yeah. No, that was steak. That was steak. There's still some there.

[Roan]

Because you were offering me that. I was like. You were trying to trick me into eating bear.

[Francis]

No, I couldn't. I cooked steak last night. Which by the way, I cooked it in the oven and then I went to go reverse sear it on my grill, of course, and I put it on the grill and I went back inside because it was freezing.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Went inside for three minutes or not even two minutes. And when I came back on out, I had a full blown grill fire going. What'd you use? Flames licking up out the back of the hood like, like it was fucking like a drag.

[Roan]

Soda car.

[Francis]

I'm sorry.

[Roan]

You get some baking soda in there? No.

[Francis]

I kept my nerve. I took the stakes off. I turned off the gas and I closed the hood to suffocate the oxygen. And within a minute or so it had died out. I don't really know exactly how I'm supposed to eradicate the grease within the grill that has built up and is causing this.

[Shane Gillis]

There's gotta be a tray.

[Francis]

Oh, it's from the tray. The drip tray.

[Shane Gillis]

I think if you, you gotta clean that drip tray out too.

[Francis]

I will do that. But I also think the brick briquettes or whatever that I have are just coated now. And I need to. Historically I've done the thing where I turn all the knobs up and I just nuke it for like 10min minutes. But I fear that if I did that right now, I, I would blow up my entire condom.

[Shane Gillis]

We'll just do it while like as you leave and then you could kind of come back with like a Fight Club, Tyler Durden type of situation.

[Francis]

Oh.

[Shane Gillis]

And you're like, oh, the insurance is actually worth $5 million kind of. Be nice.

[Roan]

Yeah. I just know that if you get a grease fire, you're supposed to use baking soda.

[Francis]

Yeah. If you can't put it out.

[Roan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a mass to clean up up.

[Francis]

I know. Exactly.

[Roan]

Yeah. Well, that's why you really. You only want to use it if you really need to.

[Francis]

Right, Right.

[Roan]

Wait till the flames are like almost touching the house.

[Francis]

I mean, this was pretty scary because there's terrifying. There's wood behind the grill. There's a wood wall. And I was like, holy.

[Shane Gillis]

It's terrifying.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I don't know if I would be. I think that would be the most embarrassing thing that could happen to you if you burn down a building, starting a fire. Yeah. Like a bad one. And then you just gotta walk around being like, my bad God. I looked away for a minute.

[Background Vocalist or Music]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Yeah. And no one believes you.

[Background Vocalist or Music]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Everyone's like, yeah, I'm sure.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

I had a small grill on a deck in New York, and it, like, it. The same type of situation happened for a small one. It was like, licking towards my neighbor's apartment. And I was just like, oh, my God. But I just took everything off, like, removed the heat, kept the lid on. But I just felt so embarrassed and bad, I don't think. I mean, I also didn't know how dangerous it was at the time.

[Roan]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

It's extremely dangerous to have little girls.

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Yeah.

[Roan]

Even, like, I've. I've, like, left a candle lit and gotten home and noticed, and it's just, like. It's like, embarrassed. Like, I'm embarrassed.

[Shane Gillis]

No candles would go out on their own.

[Roan]

I don't know, man.

[Shane Gillis]

What kind of candles do you have? Like, the Lumiere candlestick.

[Roan]

Yankee.

[Shane Gillis]

Yankees are going to fucking take care of themselves.

[Roan]

That's what you'd think.

[Shane Gillis]

No. You think they're fires getting started off Yankees, bro.

[Roan]

Those things burnt when. When a candle burns down so that there's nothing left.

[Francis]

It.

[Roan]

I'd assume the next step is it explodes. Like, I've had it. Where? The Yankee candle, Like the.

[Francis]

I think you're thinking of dynamite.

[Roan]

Oh, no. You get the big one and it's. And it's just wax now. Like, it's just melted wax.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And you pick it up and you're like, I think this thing would have just cracked.

[Shane Gillis]

Are you talking about the one in the jar?

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Shane Gillis]

What do you mean? Where's the fire gonna go? There's no more fuel for the fire. Huh?

[Francis]

It's hot.

[Roan]

Is the wax the fuel? I don't think the wax is the fuel. It's the wick. The wax slows it down. I'm just being real with you boys.

[Shane Gillis]

I've dealt with a lot of Yankee candles.

[Roan]

I don't know.

[Shane Gillis]

And I've never been in. I mean, you should blow out your candles, but I don't think it's gonna explode.

[Roan]

I'm just saying beware.

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I don't.

[Shane Gillis]

I don't know. I don't think it's that dangerous. I don't think Yankee will put us at risk.

[Francis]

I don't know. I don't know the science of candles at all.

[Shane Gillis]

The wax has to be a big part of it.

[Roan]

What is the wax?

[Francis]

There's no wax, no fuel. Right.

[Roan]

I think it's just the wick burns really slow and I would assume the wax probably prevents it from. Because it's under the wax, it slows it, you're saying?

[Francis]

Yeah, the wax blows it.

[Roan]

Yeah. But I got, I'm telling you, I got to a point where it was. There was no more solid wax. It was just liquid.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And I picked up the, the glass, it was like 3 million degrees.

[Francis]

Okay, but hold on a second.

[Roan]

And I was like, this thing's gonna, it's going to blow. It's crazy.

[Francis]

What, what if you tried to light that candle again now? Could you.

[Roan]

No, I had to throw it away.

[Francis]

Because it wouldn't light. Cuz there's no more wax.

[Roan]

No, it would have lit, but it's like it was kind of just going through like this thing where it was. Every time I would light it, it would just burn all the way down and then I would.

[Francis]

And then go out.

[Roan]

No.

[Francis]

Or just sit at the bottom.

[Roan]

It doesn't like it doesn't go out.

[Francis]

So you have a never ending cannon.

[Roan]

That's what I'm saying. Like when it, what happens when it ends? How does it end?

[Francis]

I think I have candles that I've, I've finished and I don't think I can light them anymore.

[Roan]

But what happens when it's finished? Like you just got a clean glass. Like it's just a beer glass.

[Shane Gillis]

Mason jar.

[Francis]

You could throw it. You could, you could use the candle glass as a jar if you just cleaned out the. Whatever's in there.

[Roan]

Yeah, I don't know. I'm a candle. I like candles.

[Francis]

Same, same.

[Roan]

Lovely. I mean, really, just. Yankee.

[Francis]

Those are also good things to pick up on Facebook Marketplace.

[Roan]

Yankee, you're buying used candles?

[Francis]

No, I'm buying candles that were gifted to people who now have drug problems and need to get rid of their candles.

[Roan]

If you ever find, if you're ever at a point where you're selling candles on Facebook Marketplace, things must have gone very wrong.

[Francis]

He'd be surprised. Yeah, I agree.

[Roan]

We got it. We could probably get a dollar for this.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Roan]

Jack Yankee Candles website. I don't know if they make. I think they don't. I don't think they make this one anymore.

[Francis]

Well, dude, the best candles are the lolabos.

[Roan]

I don't know. I'm not familiar Those are the best ones.

[Shane Gillis]

You have a very. That's like a fast food McDonald's, like, palette of candles. Yeah.

[Roan]

No, it's not.

[Shane Gillis]

It is.

[Francis]

Dude.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm sorry.

[Roan]

Ridiculous.

[Shane Gillis]

I'm sorry to say.

[Roan]

I know that's not true because I've used other candles and they're worse.

[Shane Gillis]

Well, the worst ones are worse. But, like, if you. There's like.

[Roan]

Like you go to Target.

[Shane Gillis]

Stratosphere on top of Yankee, there's a whole world.

[Roan]

If you go to, like, Target and you buy a candle, you light that thing, it's. It's over in 30 minutes. It's literally like they're. They're temporary candles. Wait till you're buying one. Use candles.

[Francis]

Wait till you. Wait till you try a Lilabo.

[Roan]

I'm never gonna try a Lulabo. Well, I've been a Yankee Candle man my whole life. I just like their scents.

[Shane Gillis]

They have a wide array of scents, but it's like MAB Paints.

[Roan]

But they're like. They're good. Like.

[Shane Gillis]

Like Sherwin Williams.

[Roan]

They're simple. Christmas.

[Shane Gillis]

It's simple. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's simple. It's good. I like McDonald's.

[Roan]

I like their. I like their labels.

[Francis]

It's familiar. Yeah, I get it. I love you both. I have to go catch this flight to Chicago for the basketball tournament. Tournament that we're doing.

[Shane Gillis]

Same.

[Francis]

Good luck.

[Shane Gillis]

All right. See you guys next week.

[Francis]

Okay.

[Roan]

Goodbye.

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Was over still, still underground so I looked older Til you came around I was only falling one way I was only falling away Jesus, I come alive I was only falling one way I was only folding one way I was only folding one way I was only folding one way that is true, you're right did you realize no one could take me alive I was only falling one way. Sam, That is to your eyes did you realize no one could take me alive?