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Ryan
Why is Click to Cancel a big deal too?
Unknown Speaker
Big thing.
Ryan
I've got a supplement and needs to have on it a way for them to cancel. Even though there's no members area or anything like that?
Unknown Speaker
Correct.
Ryan
And it can't be buried?
Unknown Speaker
No. I like having it as a tab. If it's only subscription, we can get into where you put that. But if you're selling straight sale and subscription, I like markers. You're not going to like that.
Ryan
Your click to cancel anytime offer could get you sued by the FTC. That's because in just a few days, the FTC's new rule, click to Cancel comes into effect. That's going to happen on July 14th. First off, what the hell is Click to cancel and what does it mean for your subscription model business? Today Ryan and I are diving into one of the biggest changes to hit subscription marketing in years. The FTC's new Click to Cancel rule. This regulation forces businesses to make cancellation as easy as signing up or else you will face a steep fine. Ryan and I are breaking down what this means for your funnels, your checkout flow, and how to avoid turning customer retention into legal exposure. If you're running a membership, continuity or auto ship model, this episode is non negotiable. I love this topic. I know you do. I hate this topic. This topic crushes my profit margins. That's the only thing I care about. But it is important because it's been coming for a long time.
Unknown Speaker
Click and file.
Ryan
Very long time.
Unknown Speaker
Very long time.
Ryan
And so the first thing I want to ask you why is click to cancel. A big deal.
Unknown Speaker
Two big things. You need an online mechanism of cancellation. So if you are enrolling people online, you need an online method of cancellation. If you're doing business in California, you should have been doing this for a very long time. No more forcing people to call in. The second big thing, and I would say the absolute biggest thing is it's a trade regulation rule, which means there's civil penalty liability. And if you misrepresent any characteristic of your product that is sold on subscription, that gives rise to liability under this rule. It also heightens the the consent requirements and things like that. But the two really biggest things are the click to cancel portion, which is why the rule is described that way, and then the material mischaracterization of the product. So hey, my product does X, Y and Z and it doesn't. That's now another, you know, little hook for the FTC to come and get sold. Penalties. Good times.
Ryan
So what are the legal requirements Exactly. And what are the gray areas people can live in? You know, I'm going to ask that.
Unknown Speaker
Yep.
Ryan
How do I get right up to the line?
Unknown Speaker
So black letter law first.
Ryan
Okay.
Unknown Speaker
You need to clearly and conspicuously disclose all material terms of the offer. Nothing new there. Those terms need to be unavoidable, which means like you cannot, absolutely cannot miss them.
Ryan
Yep.
Unknown Speaker
They also need to be disclosed in.
Ryan
They're not buried in your TNCs, not.
Unknown Speaker
Buried in your TNCs at the bottom of the page. They also need to be appear immediately adjacent to the consent mechanism. And so the consent mechanism is basically whatever you're using to get the consumer to agree that they're agreeing to a subscription. And the reason that's important is because a lot of people would bury these things in different parts of the webpage. And so like the top of the page might say one thing and then the description is disclosed down below, but you're getting consent up top. That's no longer can you do. Well, you shouldn't have been doing that in the first place, but really, really.
Ryan
Can'T do that anymore. And the reason this is really, really at the time, though, but really, we've been saying this, you and I have been saying this for a very long time, but really, really the time really, really.
Unknown Speaker
Because the FTC's already come out and they delayed enforcement again. And finally July 14th, the FTC decides we're done. Yeah, you guys have had way too much time to figure out how to figure this out.
Ryan
We're sick of old ladies calling pissed off that you've taken their Social Security checks are coming for you.
Unknown Speaker
Exactly.
Ryan
Okay, so how do I get right up to the line?
Unknown Speaker
I think so much of this is now going to be binary. It's like you comply or you don't. You can split test, you can try different things, but if the consumer doesn't know that they're enrolling in a subscription or a membership program or subscribe and save, that's a problem. Like the FTC has come out in every single way and said, this is unlawful, you must disclose the terms. And it's all material term. So it's the price, it's the frequency, it's the fact that, like, if you're giving an incentive on the first offer or the first subscribe and save offer, you need to disclose the. Not only that any sort of discount is applicable only to the first order, but what's the rebuild price? It's like all this needs to be disclosed. You can't miss it. Like, you don't have to use a checkbox. But there isn't going to be a lot of discussion with the FTC anymore. I mean, sure, you're going to run a consumer survey of what is the consumer. You know, did they know they were running a subscription?
Ryan
Well, that's how they almost never.
Unknown Speaker
Well, yeah, but I mean, that's how we would usually do it. But at the same time, like the FTC is going to say, this is the button you're using to get consent. This stuff isn't appearing anywhere near there.
Ryan
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
So what gives? So I like this topic, but I'm afraid it's going to be much more binary. It's going to be kind of black and white, like split test away, guys. But you really need to done with the days of trying to make this.
Ryan
This is a really big deal. And so Perry Belcher and I actually, I'm on another podcast for people who don't know called Train Wreck with Perry Belcher. And we're actually going to be filming an episode next week about how to compliantly do this. And so he's been doing it compliantly for years and years and years, mainly because he doesn't like the idea of people feeling tricked by him because his entire reputation. And he's in a different space. Right. He's not in the supplement space, but he's been doing it for years and years and years. And so we're going to be talking about that. But I will say Apple is. I'm going to sidetrack you a little bit. Have you ever seen an Apple Pay? Apple Pay's compliance is if I'm going to rebill you and they use Apple Pay, it literally says when they go to do the, you know what I'm talking, talking about little click, click, so that your face allows it to go. It literally says right there, you can see it, build every 14 days, build every 13 days, build again in 28 days. And so a lot of the Apple compliance is very easy to understand and read. This is just a side note from operationally. If you go and read the compliance for Apple Pay and you do that, you're probably going to be just fine. But there's going to be some marketing fairy dust that you're going to need to do there by making your products more advantageous to rebuy and rebuy and rebuy.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. And don't forget when we were talking about disclosing all these material terms, no hyperlinks, like, it's very clear that you can't bury this stuff in A hyperlink somewhere, right? So even if you're putting it right next to whatever you're using to get consent to this, hyperlinks aren't going to work.
Ryan
What's up? We interrupt this podcast to remind you to like and subscribe so that you can always be in the know of when Ryan and I drop a new episode of Marketing on Trial. Also, sign up at www.specialops podcast.com for our visionary vault and get all of our freebies. I want to talk about the last, the second half and the last bit of this. Now, I've agreed. I know that I've agreed. I get your product and I want to cancel. It can no longer be. I remember one of the best guarantees is years and years and years and years and years ago, one of the best guarantees I ever saw was by a guy named Justin Goff, copywriter in Austin. I don't want to call him a copywriter. He's a business owner, he's a consultant. Like, he's brilliant marketer. And he had this guarantee which was, if you'd like your money back, I want to give you your money back. Write me a letter, mail it in, and I'll give you your money back. No fucking way is anybody going to write a letter. No way. And so what a brilliant guarantee because it's like no questions asked. You write me a letter and I'm giving you your money back. No one's taking the time to write a letter.
Unknown Speaker
Never.
Ryan
I mean, obviously that would never work. Now, we couldn't do that because of compliance now, but it was absolutely brilliant. Those days are over. I can't even tell customers to call in. What are my regulations? I can't even make it so that they have to write in. What do I need to do to make it so that people can cancel?
Unknown Speaker
So anybody that's been doing business in California should be doing this already.
Ryan
They're not. So let's explain. No one is. So let's explain it.
Unknown Speaker
So you need a very prominent link on your website, somewhere where the consumer goes, clicks on it. It's going to load to basically a preloaded form. The consumer is going to enter their email address or whatever you need to do to find the account and by submitting that form, they're done. That is all that they have to do. Hence the click to cancel moniker. It's you click on this button, you submit your cancellation.
Ryan
So I have, I have my regular website. So look me up. Let's say I'm. They want to return my book Shameless Plug My book scope, an operational framework. So I have scope. ReadScope Co is my website for those of you who want my book marketer at heart. But if they want to, well, that's not really a thing because it's not continuity. But okay, let's. It's a supplement. It's a supplement. I've got a supplement. And all it has to be is let's say it's Green leaf Nutrition. So greenleafnutrition.com needs to have on it a way for them to cancel. Even though there's no members area or anything like that. So there has to be a tab somewhere on Greenleaf Nutrition that says cancel your subscription here.
Unknown Speaker
Correct.
Ryan
And it can't be buried. Let's talk about that.
Unknown Speaker
No, I like having it as a tab. Like I mean if you are running a subscription business, if it's only subscription, we can get into where you put that. But if you're selling straight sale and subscription, I like having it at the top.
Ryan
Okay.
Unknown Speaker
Because it's very, very easy to find. Marketers are not going to like that. They're going to want it at the bottom. Most people are going to put it at the bottom. What is very important though is like it's not in like gray on gray text or very, very small. It needs to be next to everything else. Some websites will just have like a legal kind of heading and it'll have.
Ryan
Like your cancellations, something.
Unknown Speaker
Manage my subscription.
Ryan
Right. Oh man. Is my subscription. That's a brilliant one. Right at the top. Manage my subscription.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. And I don't like some brands will say this is my subscription policy or this will be something other than like it's very clear this is where you go to cancel. Like it needs to be apparent, it needs to be unavoidable. Like just make it easy for the consumers. I think we've told clients, the lawyer.
Ryan
I'm just saying. But yeah, you told clients this multiple times because. Because the fines are going to be real.
Unknown Speaker
Well, the fines are going to be real. You also don't want people on subscription that don't want to be on there. Like Perry was saying. Right. Like it's your name, it's your brand at stake. So you start losing integrity with consumers. It class action liability. It's just with the FTC now coming in and having civil penalty authority, it is way too much risk. Just not comply.
Ryan
Right. I tell people all the time, treat it like your customers are absolutely stupid.
Unknown Speaker
Oh truly.
Ryan
Like they are stupid. Just because it says an email, a follow up email. So the compliance Rules are you get an email two days before the very first billing. I'm a huge, huge advocate for two days before every billing, every single. And then click here. To manage the cost involved in sending people things that they don't want that they're going to refund is astronomical. I'm from a profitability standpoint, not from a marketing standpoint. Every marketer ever is argued with me.
Unknown Speaker
But when they needed chargebacks and the.
Ryan
Cost of the goods, most people keep them. Right. So if you're running any kind of recurring revenue model, this episode just saved your business. Ryan and I put together a Click to Cancel compliance checklist to make sure you're ready for July 14th. Download it@special opspodcast.com stay compliant, stay profitable. See you next time. You just watched this whole thing on Click to Cancel, but from the time that we filmed it to the time that you're watching it, things change. So we need to make updates. We still want to put it out there because it's really good information and you should be doing all that anyway. But there are some changes and Ryan's going to update us. So, Rye.
Unknown Speaker
So 8th Circuit came out and said rules not enforceable. FTC failed to follow rulemaking procedures. Back to the drawing board.
Ryan
So everything we just said, not so much, but.
Unknown Speaker
So FTC's rule is not going to affect. So the. Nope. Or the prohibition on no misrepresentations of your product. That's out at the federal level. Problem is California as of July 1st of this year, basically verbatim, click to cancel. So still need to have an online method of cancellation. Needs to be simple and easy to find. Can't misrepresent your products. Still an open question on whether or not that misrepresenting a material characteristic of product as opposed to the subscription or the billing feature is. Is going to be an issue. But. Yeah.
Ryan
So the rules haven't changed the regulatory body technically.
Unknown Speaker
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So, so still in the same place. Be truthful with your billing disclosures. Get consent to it.
Ryan
Lion, you're such a conversion killer. I mean, you never let us lie.
Unknown Speaker
I mean, I don't like stealing people's money.
Ryan
Oh, such a goody two shoes. Just kidding.
Unknown Speaker
I mean, otherwise you guys update.
Ryan
Is that there's an update. They're making you think that you don't need to. But I mean, this too.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. I mean, so if you're selling to California, you still got to comply with the same thing.
Ryan
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
So.
Ryan
And probably they're going to switch a few things around to make this back a thing anyway so go ahead and just get compliant.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah I mean given that we have a new administration there has been some pushback on whether or not the FTC had the authority in the first place. Is the FTC going to go back through the full rulemaking procedure?
Ryan
I don't know but California is going to make you do it anyway and a lot of AGs are going to follow suit. Exactly general.
Unknown Speaker
And you still have Rosca out there which is the federal statute that governs a lot of this.
Ryan
Wow. It looks like you don't need to comply. You still need to comply.
Unknown Speaker
Don't steal people's money.
Ryan
Don't steal people's money. We don't like thieves anyway don't listen to our show if you're silly we don't like you but you can like and subscribe. Ryan, thank you so much.
Unknown Speaker
Thank you.
Ryan
All the other stuff still applies here. We just wanted to interrupt that so that you knew. Thank you so much.
Unknown Speaker
Thanks.
Special Ops with Emma Rainville: Episode Summary
Episode Title: Click to Cancel is Here! The FTC’s New Rule That Could Make Your Subscription Illegal
Release Date: July 29, 2025
In this pivotal episode of Special Ops, host Emma Rainville delves into the recently enacted FTC regulation known as "Click to Cancel." Aimed squarely at businesses operating subscription models, this episode serves as an essential guide for entrepreneurs navigating the new compliance landscape. Co-host Ryan joins Emma to dissect the implications of the rule, offering actionable insights to ensure businesses not only comply but thrive amidst these changes.
Emma opens the discussion by highlighting the urgency and significance of the new FTC rule—Click to Cancel. This regulation mandates that businesses simplify the cancellation process for subscription services, making it as straightforward as the sign-up procedure. The rule is set to take effect on July 14th, prompting immediate action from businesses to avoid substantial fines.
Notable Quote:
"Your click to cancel anytime offer could get you sued by the FTC," – Ryan [00:24]
Ryan and Emma break down the core components of the FTC’s regulation. The primary focus is on ensuring that consumers can cancel subscriptions effortlessly without unnecessary barriers. The rule emphasizes two critical aspects:
Online Cancellation Mechanism:
Businesses must provide an online method for cancellation. Traditional methods, such as requiring phone calls or written requests, are no longer permissible, especially for businesses operating in California.
Transparency in Product Representation:
Any misrepresentation of the product’s features or subscription terms can lead to severe penalties. The rule demands clear and conspicuous disclosure of all material terms adjacent to the consent mechanism used during sign-up.
Notable Quote:
"You need to clearly and conspicuously disclose all material terms of the offer. Nothing new there." – Unknown Speaker [02:24]
Emma and Ryan delve deeper into the legal intricacies, outlining the necessity for businesses to align their practices with the new regulations:
Prominent Disclosure:
All subscription terms, including pricing and billing frequency, must be immediately visible and not hidden within lengthy terms and conditions (T&C) documents.
No Hyperlinks Allowed:
Hyperlinks cannot be used to obscure cancellation processes or terms. Everything must be plainly visible without requiring additional clicks.
Adjacency to Consent:
Cancellation options must be placed directly next to the consent mechanisms (e.g., checkboxes or sign-up buttons) to ensure they are unavoidable and easily accessible.
Notable Quote:
"The consent mechanism is basically whatever you're using to get the consumer to agree that they're agreeing to a subscription. And the reason that's important is because a lot of people would bury these things in different parts of the webpage." – Unknown Speaker [03:07]
The discussion transitions to the tangible impact of these regulations on subscription-based businesses. Emma and Ryan emphasize that non-compliance could lead to hefty fines and damage to a brand’s reputation. They urge businesses to treat customers as if they require clear and straightforward options, adopting a no-nonsense approach to subscriptions and cancellations.
Ryan shares insights on the operational changes needed, such as:
Implementing a Prominent Cancellation Link:
Businesses should add a visible "Manage My Subscription" or "Cancel Your Subscription" tab on their websites, preferably placed at the top for easy access.
Simplifying the Cancellation Process:
A preloaded form requiring minimal information (e.g., email address) should suffice, ensuring that the act of cancellation is as effortless as the sign-up.
Notable Quote:
"It needs to be prominent, it needs to be unavoidable. Like just make it easy for the consumers." – Unknown Speaker [08:58]
To illustrate compliance, Emma references Apple Pay as a model for effective subscription management. Apple’s approach of clearly displaying billing schedules and ensuring transparency serves as a benchmark for other businesses aiming to align with the FTC’s standards.
Notable Quote:
"Apple Pay's compliance is if I'm going to rebill you and they use Apple Pay, it literally says when they go to do the, you know what I'm talking, talking about little click, click, so that your face allows it to go." – Ryan [05:53]
Towards the episode’s conclusion, Emma and Ryan discuss recent legal developments. The 8th Circuit has challenged the enforceability of the FTC’s Click to Cancel rule, arguing procedural shortcomings. Nevertheless, compliance remains crucial, especially for businesses operating in California, where similar regulations are already in effect.
Notable Quote:
"So if you're selling to California, you still got to comply with the same thing." – Unknown Speaker [11:40]
Emma and Ryan conclude by cautioning businesses to prioritize compliance to avoid both legal repercussions and loss of consumer trust. They announce the creation of a Click to Cancel compliance checklist, available for download on SpecialOpsPodcast.com, providing a step-by-step guide to meeting the new requirements.
Notable Quote:
"If you're running any kind of recurring revenue model, this episode just saved your business." – Ryan [10:16]
Immediate Action Required:
The FTC’s Click to Cancel rule is effective as of July 14th, necessitating urgent compliance measures.
Simplify Cancellation:
Ensure that the cancellation process is as easy and prominent as the sign-up, avoiding any hidden or cumbersome steps.
Transparent Communication:
Clearly disclose all subscription terms adjacent to the consent mechanisms, eliminating any possibility of misrepresentation.
Learn from Leaders:
Adopt best practices from compliant businesses like Apple Pay to structure your subscription and cancellation processes.
Stay Updated:
Keep abreast of legal developments as challenges to the FTC rule may influence future compliance requirements.
Emma Rainville and Ryan provide an in-depth exploration of the FTC’s Click to Cancel rule, equipping listeners with the knowledge and tools necessary to navigate this regulatory shift. By emphasizing transparency, ease of cancellation, and stringent disclosure of terms, businesses can not only remain compliant but also build stronger, trust-based relationships with their customers. For a comprehensive compliance checklist and further resources, listeners are encouraged to visit SpecialOpsPodcast.com.
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