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Speculating Wildly About Crime (SWAC POD)
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Welcome to SWAC POD (Speculating Wildly About Crime) – True Crime, Deep Dives, and Unsolved Mysteries.
A few friends who loved true crime got together, and from that shared passion, SWAC POD was born. Now, we’re on a mission to dive deep into true crime cases, missing persons, and unsolved mysteries—shedding light on stories that need more attention.
What You’ll Find Here: Deep dives into true crime cases Unsolved mysteries & missing persons Interviews with experts, family members & insiders Thought-provoking discussions & theories
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103. SWAC SNACK: Gretchen Fleming Update
6d ago00:23:07Tap to summarizeHosts Jamie and Kristy share a brief update on the Gretchen Fleming case from Parkersburg, West Virginia, originally covered in Episode 59. Gretchen was last seen December 4, 2022 after bar-hopping; police initially questioned a man named John but ruled him out, and focused on Preston Pierce (also known as Daryl Lott), who said he gave her a ride and dropped her downtown without her purse or phone. After an earlier search of his former home in November 2024 found nothing, a hunter discovered human remains in September 2025, later identified as Gretchen’s in April/May 2026, reportedly on property tied to Pierce’s sister. Pierce was arrested May 15, 2026 in North Carolina, extradited, and indicted for first-degree murder, felony murder, kidnapping, and concealment/disposal of a body; he was arraigned June 11 without bond and remains in custody as the hosts anticipate a trial in 2027 or later.Source:Preston Pierce, man accused in death of Gretchen Fleming, extradited back to W.Va.Man accused in Gretchen Fleming's death extradited to West VirginiaSupport the showJoin our Discussion Group- (4) Speculating Wildly About Crime (SWAC POD) Discussion Group | FacebookFollow us on Facebook- (4) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093283626257)Follow us on Instagram: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/swacpod/)Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swac.pod?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcLink to You Tube: (4) SWACpod - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@SWACPOD)Music licensed from Premium BeatGroovy by INPLUSMUSIC
Transcribe →102. Kurt Sova
2w ago00:51:54Tap to summarizeJamie and Kristy cover the 1981 death of 17-year-old Kurt Sova in Newburgh Heights, Ohio, featured on Season 1 of Unsolved Mysteries. Kurt, a trusted, non-partier, went to a house party with Samuel, became heavily intoxicated, was escorted outside, and vanished while Samuel went back inside to retrieve their jackets. After days of searching and a delayed missing-person response, Kurt was found dead five days later in a ravine about 500 yards from the party house—fully clothed but barefoot, with one shoe later recovered and the other never found. The autopsy suggested he died only 24–36 hours before discovery and listed “probable accidental” death despite unanswered questions, a reportedly poor investigation, and a similar nearby teen death months later. Tips are encouraged via Newburgh Heights Police or Cuyahoga County Crime Stoppers (216-25CRIME).Sources:Kurt Sova - Unsolved Mysteries https://open.spotify.com/episode/2q21TpAcGcK3ZUpFD2edsO?si=8fe92b73a5f6487chttps://open.spotify.com/episode/7bb91kMWQ9uUiFyy3L4Duu?si=ac00b711932c4ba2https://open.spotify.com/episode/34j4HCEjGlbtQpFfycsC20?si=64ad510692dc42e9Kurt Sova | Unsolved Mysteries Wiki | Fandom Support the showJoin our Discussion Group- (4) Speculating Wildly About Crime (SWAC POD) Discussion Group | FacebookFollow us on Facebook- (4) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093283626257)Follow us on Instagram: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/swacpod/)Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swac.pod?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcLink to You Tube: (4) SWACpod - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@SWACPOD)Music licensed from Premium BeatGroovy by INPLUSMUSIC
Transcribe →101. Deanna Cremin
3w ago00:48:38Tap to summarizeJamie and Kristy discuss the 1995 unsolved murder of 17-year-old Deanna Cremin in Somerville, Massachusetts. Deanna, a well-liked high school junior who loved working with children and hoped to become a preschool teacher, was last seen after spending the evening watching TV with her boyfriend, 19-year-old Tommy LeBlanc. She called her mother to say she’d be late, and Tommy later claimed he walked her only partway home—unusual for him—leaving her to finish the short walk alone. The next morning, her body was found behind a senior living complex about 500 feet from where he said he left her; an autopsy determined she was sexually assaulted and died by manual strangulation. Police collected DNA and pursued multiple persons of interest, including Tommy, firefighter Charlie Howden, neighborhood predator Anthony “Vinnie No Shoes” Delgado, and Deanna’s stepfather Michael Kremin, but the case remains open with a reward and ongoing annual memorial efforts.Sources:https://share.google/RcVWq5eYkSmvoqKYThttps://share.google/jhoLKzw9GrvEOZ8sEhttps://share.google/3i6udVrhHDZxF7GRehttps://share.google/V4FZB3q7AXJi21f5rhttps://share.google/73Vsllngg3uMrcFdohttps://open.spotify.com/track/4IpB4GHf2pBQwBAT7aJZ7S?si=2cd215df7c81412bSupport the showJoin our Discussion Group- (4) Speculating Wildly About Crime (SWAC POD) Discussion Group | FacebookFollow us on Facebook- (4) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093283626257)Follow us on Instagram: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/swacpod/)Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swac.pod?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcLink to You Tube: (4) SWACpod - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@SWACPOD)Music licensed from Premium BeatGroovy by INPLUSMUSIC
Transcribe →100. William (Bill) Schnackel
4w ago00:43:34Tap to summarizeThis week on Speculating Wildly About Crime, Jamie and Kristy discuss the 1980 disappearance of 44-year-old Bill Schnackel from Phillips, Wisconsin. Bill, described as kind and hardworking, lived in an old school bus and earned money hauling trash and scrapping metal, sometimes with his roommate Michael Winters. Bill was reported missing on May 20, 1980—over a month after Michael claimed he last saw him on April 16—and Michael said Bill went to Chicago to collect an inheritance, though Bill’s aunt said there was no money and she was in California. Michael was seen driving Bill’s prized truck, gave conflicting explanations about being in the woods, and later moved back to Palm Springs. Investigators searched the property and nearby areas without finding Bill, arrested Michael in 1983 for murder, but he was found not guilty and records of the trial are missing. The hosts urge anyone with information to contact the Price County Sheriff’s Office at 715-339-3011.Sources:The Tomahawk Leader NewspaperIronwood Daily Globe NewspaperThe Evening Telegram (Superior, WI) NewspaperForgotten Wisconsin Cold Cases: William Schnackel - The Bus in the Woods https://share.google/lbwHOpffnCnOujN2thttps://www.wsaw.com/video/2024/07/05/price-county-man-william-schnackel-lived-bus-woods-went-missing-44-years-ago/Shoutouts:www.wisconsinshistory.comSupport the showJoin our Discussion Group- (4) Speculating Wildly About Crime (SWAC POD) Discussion Group | FacebookFollow us on Facebook- (4) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093283626257)Follow us on Instagram: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/swacpod/)Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swac.pod?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcLink to You Tube: (4) SWACpod - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@SWACPOD)Music licensed from Premium BeatGroovy by INPLUSMUSIC
Transcribe →99. SWAC Unhinged- Housewives Edition. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Part 2 of 2.
May 3000:46:04Tap to summarizeJamie, Kristy, David (Surviving-ISH), and Jenny (Unholier Than Thou/Unholier) share their top 3 moments from the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City franchise. Some moments include: Angie K’s season five “scroll” confrontation with Meredith, Brittany being caught recording and denying it, Mary’s “hospital smell” comment, and Brittany’s outrage over Angie bringing wine to her Bible study. They discuss how Brittany’s behavior and religious fence-sitting affects the group, debating whether she’s “fake” or “empty,” and whether Angie’s wine gift was passive-aggressive. The group highlights Jen Shah’s season two Sprinter van arrest and its aftermath, Lisa Barlow’s “gout dick sucker” insult at a party, and the season four Bermuda finale where Heather reveals Monica as the faceless account Reality Von Teese with “receipts, timelines, screenshots.” They close by sharing thoughts on Monica, praising Mary’s season five return, and comparing which cast members they each resemble.Support the showJoin our Discussion Group- (4) Speculating Wildly About Crime (SWAC POD) Discussion Group | FacebookFollow us on Facebook- (4) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093283626257)Follow us on Instagram: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/swacpod/)Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swac.pod?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcLink to You Tube: (4) SWACpod - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@SWACPOD)Music licensed from Premium BeatGroovy by INPLUSMUSIC
Transcribe →98. SWAC Unhinged- Real Housewives of Salt Lake City- Part 1 of 2
May 2200:49:11Tap to summarizeJamie, Kristy, David (Surviving-ISH), and Jenny (Unholier Than Thou/Unholier) return for a “palate cleanser”. This time, our SWAC Unhinged episode will be focused on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. After introductions and Jenny’s background as a survivor and podcaster, they acknowledge the tragic death of Mary Cosby’s son Robert Jr., reflecting on his on-camera discussion of addiction and mental health and the realities and stigmas families face. Shifting to lighter Housewives talk, they debate favorite cast members (including Heather, Mary, Whitney, and Bronwyn), discuss how deconstruction and cult dynamics color their view of the show, and count down memorable moments such as Heather’s black eye tied to Jen Shah, Meredith’s season-one mask, Lisa’s “Away in a Manger” choir audition, yacht drama (including shoes and a tossed unicorn), the Milwaukee trip, and Lisa’s Zion hot-mic rant. The episode ends teasing Part 2 with their top three moments and housewife comparisons.Support the showJoin our Discussion Group- (4) Speculating Wildly About Crime (SWAC POD) Discussion Group | FacebookFollow us on Facebook- (4) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093283626257)Follow us on Instagram: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/swacpod/)Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swac.pod?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcLink to You Tube: (4) SWACpod - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@SWACPOD)Music licensed from Premium BeatGroovy by INPLUSMUSIC
Transcribe →97. Ashley Summers Part 2 of 2
May 1500:31:38Tap to summarizeJamie and Kristy revisit Ashley Summers’ disappearance as the Cleveland case timeline intersects with the May 6, 2013 rescue of Amanda Berry, Gina DeJesus, and Michelle Knight from Ariel Castro, ultimately confirming Ashley was never held in the home. They cover the hope sparked by a 2015 FBI tip and ATM surveillance photo, including a Dr. Phil facial recognition analysis suggesting an 80% match, which was later ruled out when the suspect was identified as someone else. They also discuss and eliminate possible links to several offenders (Elias Acevedo, Eric “Big Willie” Wilson, Anthony Sowell, and Israel Keyes) before focusing on concerns around Ashley’s uncle Kevin, including revelations about a broken phone story and his later arrest and conviction for long-term sexual crimes. The episode closes with theories—foul play by someone she knew, trafficking/kidnapping, accident, or suicide—and a call for tips.Sources:Disappearance of Ashley Summers - Wikipedia ASHLEY SUMMERS — FBI "Disappeared" Edge of Fourteen (TV Episode 2018) - IMDb https://open.spotify.com/episode/4OfxijQc0vGfcK2vwNBVfp?si=d5f835b412874d19Ashley Summers: Gone On The 4th Of July – The Unfound Podcast Channel https://www.tiktok.com/@mommy4lifeof3/video/7206354192619867435?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7618400034345731598https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPoA2f11UPkAdditional Sources:Help Find Alexandria Lowitzer - Missing Person KBAA | Memorial and Advocacy Bracelet | Alexandria Joy Lowitzer - Etsy Support the showJoin our Discussion Group- (4) Speculating Wildly About Crime (SWAC POD) Discussion Group | FacebookFollow us on Facebook- (4) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093283626257)Follow us on Instagram: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/swacpod/)Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swac.pod?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcLink to You Tube: (4) SWACpod - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@SWACPOD)Music licensed from Premium BeatGroovy by INPLUSMUSIC
Transcribe →96. Ashley Summers Part 1 of 2
May 800:43:00Tap to summarizeJamie and Kristy cover Part 1 of the disappearance of 14-year-old Ashley Summers in Cleveland, Ohio, in July 2007. They outline Ashley’s strained home life with her mom Jennifer, her relationship with 16-year-old boyfriend Jean Gill, and how she began staying with great-uncle Kevin after conflict at home. Ashley had previously run away in January 2007. Her last known day is disputed (reports range from July 4–8); she was reportedly seen at a family birthday party on July 4 and said she was walking to Aunt Chris’s house but never arrived. Kevin later claimed a fight occurred and he broke her phone before Ashley packed belongings and left. Jennifer didn’t realize Ashley was missing for days due to family confusion, filed a report July 9, and police initially treated it as a runaway. A month later Jennifer received a brief call from someone she believed was Ashley. In 2008 the FBI reexamined the case due to parallels with nearby disappearances of Amanda Berry and Gina DeJesus. Sources: Disappearance of Ashley Summers - Wikipedia ASHLEY SUMMERS — FBI "Disappeared" Edge of Fourteen (TV Episode 2018) - IMDb https://open.spotify.com/episode/4OfxijQc0vGfcK2vwNBVfp?si=d5f835b412874d19Ashley Summers: Gone On The 4th Of July – The Unfound Podcast Channel https://www.tiktok.com/@mommy4lifeof3/video/7206354192619867435?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7618400034345731598Additional Sources:Help Find Alexandria Lowitzer - Missing Person KBAA | Memorial and Advocacy Bracelet | Alexandria Joy Lowitzer - Etsy Support the showJoin our Discussion Group- (4) Speculating Wildly About Crime (SWAC POD) Discussion Group | FacebookFollow us on Facebook- (4) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093283626257)Follow us on Instagram: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/swacpod/)Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swac.pod?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcLink to You Tube: (4) SWACpod - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@SWACPOD)Music licensed from Premium BeatGroovy by INPLUSMUSIC
Transcribe →95. Jason Landry Part 2 of 2
May 100:54:59Tap to summarizeJamie and Kristy continue part two of their coverage of missing 21-year-old Jason Landry, focusing on the body-cam footage from the crash scene near Luling, Texas, and the late-night calls to his parents. They discuss concerns about the scene being treated as a simple impaired-driver accident despite Jason’s clothing and belongings left in the roadway, and detail what happened after his family arrived, including locating his phone at the impound lot. The episode covers subsequent search efforts (including drones, dogs, divers, and draining a pond after cadaver dogs alerted), evidence handling issues like untested fingerprints/DNA, and a geofence warrant that produced no leads. Jamie and Kristy review reported sightings and explore competing theories, including head injury/hypothermia, feral hogs, and potential foul play.Sources:The Unending Disappearance of Jason Landry https://youtu.be/3uAt_dnRuFA?si=NVgmXU_YlAuZJhqJDisappeared - S10 E4 The Long Drive Home - ID GO 21-Year-Old's Car Found Abandoned. He's Still Missing 5 Years LaterDisappearance of Jason Landry - Wikipedia Facebook Southminster Presbyterian Church | Jason Fundraiser for Lisa Landry by Cyndi Felicia Lay Sundgren : FIND JASON LANDRY! Jason Landry: Unconscious man in NYC is not him, NYPD says | khou.com Support the showJoin our Discussion Group- (4) Speculating Wildly About Crime (SWAC POD) Discussion Group | FacebookFollow us on Facebook- (4) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093283626257)Follow us on Instagram: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/swacpod/)Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swac.pod?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcLink to You Tube: (4) SWACpod - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@SWACPOD)Music licensed from Premium BeatGroovy by INPLUSMUSIC
Transcribe →94. Jason Landry Part 1 of 2
Apr 2400:47:36Tap to summarizeJamie and Kristy begin Part 1 on the disappearance of 21-year-old Texas State student Jason Landry, who vanished on December 13, 2020 after leaving San Marcos around 11:05 PM to drive home to Missouri City. Using his digital footprint, they trace him through Martindale to an intersection near Luling where he should have turned toward I-10, but instead continued onto dark rural roads; his phone activity ends around 11:24 PM and his crashed Nissan Altima is found at 12:31 AM. Police later locate Jason’s clothing laid out methodically about 900 feet from the car, plus his backpack containing his wallet, laptop, PlayStation, a deceased fish, and a pill bottle holding eight rolled joints, while his phone is later found wedged in the car. The trooper suggests substance influence and a possible hit-and-run, raising questions about head injury, hypothermia, and investigative gaps.Sources:San Marcos, Texas to Missouri City, Texas - Google MapsSEARCH FOR JASON LANDRY: Raw Facetime video of Landry talking with friend | FOX 7 AustinDPS Trooper Body Cam at Jason Landry Crash SiteThe Unending Disappearance of Jason Landry • Jason Landry /// Part 1 /// 860 Disappeared - S10 E4 The Long Drive Home - ID GO 21-Year-Old's Car Found Abandoned. He's Still Missing 5 Years LaterDisappearance of Jason Landry - Wikipedia Southminster Presbyterian Church | Jason Support the showJoin our Discussion Group- (4) Speculating Wildly About Crime (SWAC POD) Discussion Group | FacebookFollow us on Facebook- (4) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093283626257)Follow us on Instagram: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/swacpod/)Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@swac.pod?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcLink to You Tube: (4) SWACpod - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@SWACPOD)Music licensed from Premium BeatGroovy by INPLUSMUSIC
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