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Ryan Whitney
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Paul Bissonnette
Let's drive.
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Angel Reese
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Ryan Whitney
I participate in restaurants for a limited time.
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Keith Yandle
Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is Bastool Sports.
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Ryan Whitney
Our white whale, Sydney Crosby. Shave his head. Shave his head. Shave his head. Ryan Whitney. Paul Bissonnette, R.A. mike Grinelli. Spitting chick. Hello folks, this is Ryan Whitney, an American. And we are coming to you with episode 546 of the Spit and Chicklets podcast. And it's a sad day. It's a bad day for us Americans. But before the game, there was energy, there was excitement, there was enthusiasm and there was Pink Whitney. We got a shout out. The greatest bar, one of the all time pregame party meet and greets we've ever been associated with. The Pink Whitney was flowing, chucking Pink Whitney merch everywhere. The shots were being drilled one after one after one. And now I believe that Pink Whitney will be flowing in Canada just a little bit extra. Once again in best on Best, the 2002 Olympics, the 2010 Olympics, the 2014 Olympics, the 2016 World cup and the 2025. Four nations face off. Canada wins. Biz, congratulations. I'm sick to my stomach. I don't want to be here right now. I can't stand you. My DMs are loaded with people calling me pussy and bitch and ugly as fuck. And I'm really, really sad. Really sad. But I got to give you credit, Biz, you called it. So take your victory lap and shove us in a locker one time.
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Mike Grinelli
You know what? I'm going to take the high road here and instead of going all over you guys. No, I'm going to because I just want to say that this was so Big for Canada. I don't think people realize how big this was for Canada. We needed a W. Trump dropped the 51st state. Ha ha ha ha. The Americans had to laugh. Our little brother, we're going to own you. We're going to gobble you up. All of a sudden, the threats of the tariffs. Oh, my God. Our economy dips a little bit. People are freaking out. But one thing we still have, folks, is hockey. We are the greatest hockey nation on the planet that will remain. And boy, oh, boy, did this tournament set the table for next year's Olympics. The league should applaud themselves. This is one of the greatest things to happen in hockey in a very, very long time. This might have started out as an idea that was, you know, oh, okay. Instead of all Star, we're just going to do this four nations and, you know, it's kind of a little gimmicky, I guess. Na na na, na na. Maybe that's how it all started. But what it transformed into was something much bigger. And on top of that, we got to give a lot of credit to the United States in their hand and bringing it to what it was like. Think about this, man, like the Chuck brothers, like people. People in the States now know the talent that the Americans have on the hockey side and how they're coming up as a powerful hockey nation. This is a big moment in USA Hockey history. I genuinely think if they would have pulled off that victory, boys, it would have been the third, fourth, at least, let's say, worst case scenario, fifth largest event to propel hockey in the United States of America. So a, applaud yourselves. You guys got some fucking dogs on your side. And I can't. I cannot wait for Italy. It is going to be an absolute shit show over there. And last thing I'll say before I hand it back over to you guys is I am so fucking proud of the boys for pulling that off. That was. That was big to hear. Trump called in. I. I would pay maybe 500 grand to hear what he had to say to the Americans. You know, that he was chirping Trudeau. You know, he was. You know that he was talking about him being the governor of the 51st state. You know, he was throwing those.
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Keith Yandle
He's going to be a mayor now.
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Mike Grinelli
Can't hold back from doing it. And he calls to rev them up, and we go into your building and we bend you guys over. No spit, no lube, sandpaper finish. And to have McJesus cap it all off. The torch has been passed. Nobody could question anymore. Can McDavid win the big one? He did win the big one. I'm so proud of those fucking guys. Cooper, the whole staff. Way to go. Way to go, boys. Captain Crosby. Take it away, guys. What do you guys have to say?
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Keith Yandle
Well, first off, tip of the cap to Canada.
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Mike Grinelli
Thank you.
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Keith Yandle
Tip of the cap to Canada.
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Mike Grinelli
Thank you.
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Keith Yandle
Jordan Bennington. I said it. I said it to my. Well, actually, you know what? I'm going to go back a little bit. I want to thank all the players that participated in this. What an amazing, amazing week of hockey. First time probably since maybe I was a little kid, I'm thinking maybe Patriots days, the Dynasty days, where I was a true fan. I really, really felt how, you know, most of our listeners feel about their team, because when you played in the NHL after you're done retiring, you played on a couple teams, you. You root for, you know, guys that you played with, guys that you're friends with and, you know, teams that you played for, but you don't really have that, like, that one team. And I had that for these last two weeks or whatever it was, and I fell more in love with the game than I ever have. I was sitting on the edge of my seat every single game. The United States of America coming in hot, coming into Canada, beaten Canada. Beautiful, beautiful stuff. The Tachuk brothers, all the Boston kids on that team. Just an amazing, amazing couple or what. 10 days, 12 days of hockey. Couldn't, Couldn't be more happy to be a part of it from the outside, looking in and being able to talk about it like this with you guys. But I really, truly enjoyed every single minute of this hockey that was being played. It was amazing. The guys didn't have to be there, weren't. It's not a. It's not an Olympic thing where you. You have to go to this. But the guys went out there and they put on an absolute clinic. Every team, especially Canadians in the U.S. but put on a clinic for our sport and our fans and couldn't be more proud to be a part of, you know, once being a part of the NHL and what those guys did. I really, really loved this tournament and loved the best on best and can't wait for more. And congrats to you, Biz. You guys still are reigning champs, but I'll tell you one thing for free. We are coming in.
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Mike Grinelli
You're coming. You're coming.
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Keith Yandle
We are absolutely coming. And it's moving the needle news, bad news, and I don't know why it's bringing all the politics into this. Just let it be hockey. All right, Biz. Just let it be hockey.
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Mike Grinelli
Oh, like, for me, like, I, I, I told the PMT guys, like, I thought it was the perfect amount of political spice. Like, I'm not, like, genuinely bitter perfect. I thought it was like, you know, hey, the 51st state chirp. Like, hey, Trump could chirp, and I hope he could fucking take him back. I chirped him about his speech on Twitter last night. And Whit, I'll throw it back over to you. Like, who thought that the finals was going to be able to live up to the hype of the game on Saturday? And it delivered like this from front to back. The fact that first game against Sweden, you have the first goal, Crosby to McKinnon. The fact that McKinnon ends up winning MVP torch pass. The fact that McJesus ends up getting the winner, like, just all of it. The fat, like, overtime. Much like the Olympics, when Crosby had the golden goal. Like, this is.
- [09:21]
Ryan Whitney
It feels like it was scripted every goddamn time. Canada gets it done, and I'm sick. I'm sick and friggin tired of it. But sometimes, as Keith said, you got to tip your cap and say you are the guys. And every single time. Now, I sat down for the game. I got tickets for my dad, my wife, and Ryder. He's got my USA jersey on. He's so fired up. He's excited. I told him he was going to the game. He can't wait. I'm like, this is so cool. And then I'm thinking, and I'm being reminded on Twitter. In 2010 in Vancouver, you won that round robin game, Whit. And then when the, when the gold medal game came and it was overtime and everything was on the line, you lost. And I'm sitting there thinking, I know, and I believe that's why I mentioned. I kind of hope that we almost lose in overtime. The first game that we played against Canada. It's so difficult to beat a team that good twice. But it's all right because Ryder's coming and he's all ready to go. And we're sitting there and we're watching the game and overtime starts, and he says, dad, I'm so nervous. My stomach, My stomach feels so nervous. I said, I know, buddy, but this is the greatest sport in the world. There's nothing like overtime in a big hockey game. I go, you just stick with it. You can be nervous when it's in our zone. Don't be nervous when it's in their zone. Be excited. And then the whistle blew on the icing. I had no issue with the icing. I was actually sitting right there. I thought point got there first. Like that was. That was an ice.
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Mike Grinelli
He did.
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Ryan Whitney
He outraced Jack Hughes, who. We'll get into some players in a little bit, but. And then Ryder leans over to me and he says, dad, oh no. I said, what, son? He said, mcdavid's on the ice. I said, it's okay. I said, it's okay, buddy. Next thing you know, and I look over this poor 7 year old, 46 pounds. 46 pounds. He weighs just ballin'and. You Canadians, I know you're laughing at this. You made my son cry. You made my son cry at midnight. Just. I said, buddy, it's all right. You can cry for this one. Because he's cried at other games. I said, stop crying. If you lose an enormous championship game, that's everything in the world, so you could cry. Said, this counts, buddy. And I was whispering his ear. The Olympics are in. 355 days, buddy. We got Italy in 355 days. He said, I don't care about the Olympics. I told you McDavid was gonna score. I told you. And you know what? Before the game, I was talking to a bunch of Canadians. I met a couple guys. I gotta shout these guys out. These animals. I had a bad feeling when I met these guys. These Canadian animals. They all had jerseys on, they all had hats on. They were crushed. They got to the greatest bar at 2:00. The game was at 8:15. They said, where can we get a picture? Can we get some pink Whitney? I said, yeah. He goes, where from win? I said, where are you guys from? We're from Winnipeg. I said, oh, that's awesome. Love you guys. Flying out, he goes, our flights got canceled. We drove 33.
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Keith Yandle
Jarvis's buddies.
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Ryan Whitney
Jarvis's buddies. 33 hours we drove. We weren't missing this game. I said, jesus, that's a bad omen for us because you knucklehead Canadians driving through Western Canada, Toronto, Detroit, whatever fucking route you took to get to Boston in time to see your buddy, this is bad news. But I told these guys, I said, listen, we have the best goalie in the world. Your goalie, while being clutch, he's given up a bad goal every game. Against Finland, you could maybe say two of the goals were bad. I said, I really think the only chance we have to win is if Hellebock stands on his head and Bennington sucks in a couple softies and fucking Jordan Bennington, boys, this guy is as clutch as it gets. How about this stat? Benner. We'll call him Benner because he's a sick. He's a sick puppy. He really is. We interviewed him, Keith, years back. He's a sick puppy. He's as confident as you would ever want your goalie to be. He doesn't give a shit about the naysayers and the haters. He's played in three winner take all games he made.
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Mike Grinelli
I texted him, I texted him on Tuesday, I said, you're going full snowman mode Thursday.
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Ryan Whitney
Well, I would hope that mean lets in eight goals.
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Keith Yandle
But you kept saying snowman. What does that mean?
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Mike Grinelli
That's his nickname. That's his nickname. You don't know. You don't know. You don't know.
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Ryan Whitney
Okay, we'll move on from that one. 29. 29 of 30 saves in the 2019 second round. Game 7 against Dallas, where Patty Maru buried the double overtime winner. 32 of 33 saves in the 2019 Stanley Cup Final. Game 7 against Boston. Where was that game, boys?
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Keith Yandle
That was Fleet Center.
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Ryan Whitney
That was at the Elite Center. That was at the gad, and that was at TD north, whatever the hell the name of it now is. And Then he makes 31 of 33 saves in the Four nations face off final. And those saves in overtime, those saves on Auston Matthews, two of them. And then Brady could chuck in the glove. And I leaned over to my dad and I said, dad, I was whispering, I want Ryder to hear. I said, dad, you know how this goes. You get a bunch of chances in OT and you don't score. The other team always gets it done. And I, you know, like, I am very, very, very proud to be an American. And right now, I can admit, yeah, Canada, they are the top dogs. Nothing has changed. And I keep saying, we're coming, we're coming, we're coming. But I just was yelling before overtime, yelling to the whole section. I said, one time, can we beat you? I had a woman next to me. She sat down. You know what she said? She stopped me in the hall about an hour before the puck drop. She says, what? Can I get a picture? I love chicklets. Where's biz? I said, biz. I took a picture with her and then she sits down randomly. An hour later, she comes down the aisle, she's sitting right next to me. She goes, oh my God. I was like, oh, Jesus. She was so friendly. She said, I thought you were the biggest, but you're a really nice guy. And I looked at her right before overtime. I said, one time, woman. One time. And she said, it ain't gonna happen. She said, it ain't gonna happen. We win the big ones. And then she looked over and she said, I told you we win the big ones.
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Mike Grinelli
Oh, no.
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Keith Yandle
And I would have fucking left.
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Ryan Whitney
And I had nothing. And. And. And I. I've been rambling on and on here, and it's like, no, it's okay.
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Mike Grinelli
We're your daddy. It's okay.
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Ryan Whitney
You're. I know. This is. I. I was walking out of the garden, just muttering myself. I hate my job. My job's gonna suck tomorrow. This stinks. I'm checking DMS like a absolute lunatic, getting ripped on left and right. I wanted to drive my car off the highway, but I had my. My wife and my dad and my son in the car. And. And the scary thing is, Keith, as we're coming and as we're. We're right there. We are right there, but in the biggest moments, we cannot get it done. But we are right there.
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Keith Yandle
But it's right there.
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Ryan Whitney
They have McDavid. They have McKinnon. Next year, they'll still have Crosby. Like, we don't have that. We. We don't. Like the. What I've said is we're there, but the upper. Upper echelon talent, like, it is a little different. And they have this kid, Gavin McKenna, coming, and Celebrini will be on the Olympic team. And, like, we have kids coming, too, but there's just something about the talent and then something about the. In the. The part of you inside, it's like.
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Mike Grinelli
I think the word you're looking for is the.
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Ryan Whitney
We have guts. We have the guts.
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Keith Yandle
You.
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Ryan Whitney
We have guts.
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Mike Grinelli
I was just saying that we might have more. No comment. We got more. We got the clutch you, don't we? Hey, we just talked.
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Keith Yandle
No such thing as clutch guts, kid.
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Mike Grinelli
He didn't have the guts. Couldn't take the nerves. Right. It's almost like an inherent thing in the United States when it comes to hockey. You just can't. You're born with it gets to overtime, and there's something very poetic about me taking the high road. And yet this turning into, like a Team USA slash wit venting session, this has turned into therapy. This couldn't have worked out any better for the Canadian listeners right now. We're their daddy. They were talking shit all week long. They try to come into our building, start fights, rip on our country and take our.
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Ryan Whitney
Well, we didn't try to. We did it. It just was the game that you don't want to do it in.
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Keith Yandle
Ye good news is this trophy doesn't mean too much.
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Ryan Whitney
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Keith Yandle
Amazing.
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Ryan Whitney
Marner and Matthews both in the biggest game showed up.
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Mike Grinelli
Mitchie came through.
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Ryan Whitney
Mitchie came through.
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Mike Grinelli
And Matthew primarily horse. Horse. And just going back to what you just said. Like Matthews. What a showing. There's some guys who really step up for team USA and he not only had those two assists in the game but in overtime he was all over the place gets robbed at the other end and I don't know, I don't know if he was feeling good about getting those Opportunities and maybe cheated it a little bit. But you can't leave McJesus that wide open. And it was just a great play to stay aggressive off that face off. They won. It goes around. Cale McCarr zips it and Marner, he gets it. Takes that one step to open up that lane, to slide it over. And McJesus makes no mistake. So incredible, incredible showing. And if we want to go back to the start of the game, obviously some devastating news for the States coming in as well as Canada. But Charlie McAvoy, who had an incredible Game 1 against Canada, who was fucking hammering McDavid, ends up getting what, a shoulder virus? He had to get admitted to the hospital. I don't think we full heard the full story. Although the Boston Bruins released a statement. Elliot Friedman reported there was rumblings that Boston was not happy the way that the United States treated the injury initially in order to allow it to get to the place that it got to. So now it sounds like he's going to miss a little bit of time coming back from the regular season. But that was a tough loss. You know, you can't replace a guy like that, especially his physicality. And I thought ultimately that really hurt him. So us without Quinn Hughes, without Charlie McAvoy, obviously on the Canadian side, we end up losing Morrissey right before puck drop. A huge loss on the back end for us. I thought Harley and Sanheim stepped up and had great tournaments.
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Ryan Whitney
Harley was awesome.
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Mike Grinelli
Harley was great. Especially getting the call and having to come in part, part the way through. So just a tip of the cap, but some tough losses that I'm sure guys that we're going to see in the lineup. Hopefully come time in Italy, where both these rosters will be even a little bit better. I would imagine Tage Thompson gets added to the roster. You kind of mentioned some Americans that you weren't happy with. I honestly can't say that there's one Canadian that I wouldn't say would be invited back, at least from my perspective. I know Connect Me didn't get much of an opportunity. I thought Jarvis was okay, but I ultimately think that the big dogs for Canada were the big dogs and that was the difference maker to having Makar, to not having him. Game one, it's night and day and it scares me a little bit because he is easily Canada's most dynamic defenseman. But I do believe if Petrangelo and Theodore are healthy along with Morrissey, we become a lot more competent compared to what the American side was. And I'm sure you guys Will touch on Jake Sanderson coming in and have an unreal tournament too. And he looks like he can make that next step as well.
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Keith Yandle
Yeah, I think in the back end, I honestly think that the Americans have the better back end. But it's also when you have a guy like Cale Makar, you do not need four guys that can jump up in the play and that can, you know, create some offense like he does. I think he's just a one man show and he can play the full two minutes on the, on the power play. He can kill penalties. He, he, he really is an amazing, amazing player and just so fun to watch. But the American back end is a scary good. Yeah, I think one or two, one or two changes for, for the Olympics.
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Ryan Whitney
And one of them being Corn Hughes, hopefully.
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Mike Grinelli
So I would imagine you guys would say swap out Quinn Hughes for, for Adam Fox. Probably the way that the tournament went, I thought he was probably the, the least valuable defenseman for the.
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Ryan Whitney
I don't know if he's battling an injury and I, I, I feel like he is. He might have heard his knee earlier this year.
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Mike Grinelli
Yeah.
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Ryan Whitney
But it was like you're watching the game, it's like, whoa. Like there's something sticking out to everyone here. And he was going to Marner in the corner on the game winning goal. And then kind of Matthews came over. I don't know if Matthews didn't know if Fox was kind of already going corner and Matthews left, left McDavid alone. But the crazy part about McDavid scoring, I'll get into the USD in a sec. Was McDavid actually had nothing all night. It was like he was like kind of fumbling pucks. The pucks were bouncing on him a little bit. Like one chance, one time. It looked like he might have like a little breakaway kind of fell off his stick or like a half breakaway. And I was like, oh my God. Like we're controlling McDavid somehow because it seems like he's getting bad bounces, bad breaks here and there. And I believe he said after, I didn't do anything in the game. But what do the greats do? That's what the best do. They, they still somehow end up getting it done. It's like how many times I bet you has Crosby had games that were so so and then gets a game winner late in the third or in overtime? It's just, it's one of those things where those talent, that talent, it just shines through at the end every single time. You think back to the Lemieux letting It go through his legs in the O2 final. You think back to the game that crosby played in 2010 and it's just over and over and over. The biggest players step up for Canada and our guy stepped up, but we had our greatest player with chances in ot and he got robbed. Usually Matthews on that shot on the ice, usually he buries that thing five hole. You. That's like 25 of his goals every year is that quick snapper on the ice. Five hole. And it was just about three inches too far to the left and it hit Spinner's pad. And then the other one. He actually did a great job. The pass from Genzel through the legs. He. He got it up like it wasn't the pad that saved it. It was actually Bennington's shoulder. Like he did his job of getting it up over the pad. But that was our guy. We had our guy, he had his chances. And Canada had their guy get one chance and boom. And that's the difference. But on the. On the team.
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Paul Bissonnette
Mr. Whitney, let me interrupt you. I'm here. It's Team Sweden. Only team that didn't lose in regulation the whole tournament, by the way. But if you remember, back in 2010, Sidney Crosby had a horrible tournament. Everybody was calling for his head. Why is he on the team? Why is he on the team? I said, don't worry about it.
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Ryan Whitney
Why is he on the team? Nobody said why is he on the team?
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Paul Bissonnette
Yes, they did go back and look.
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Ryan Whitney
At the.
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Mike Grinelli
Tweet that's.
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Ryan Whitney
Won the cup the year before.
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Paul Bissonnette
Yeah, but he had no points. He was doing nothing. And I told the guy, Stacey Roost, we're in Switzerland. Stacey Roost now, by the way, is an NHL gm Assistant gm. I said, I go. His impact is not on the ice. It's more of an impact off the ice. Don't worry about Sid.
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Ryan Whitney
Boom.
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Paul Bissonnette
He got the game winning goal. Fast forward 20, 25. I'm in South Boston. I see Sid. I see the impact off the ice. There was no doubt Canada was winning last night. Sidney Crosby, you saw him out running sports. I'm sorry for your US teams that lost Ryan and Keith, but.
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Keith Yandle
What are you talking about? You're American.
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Paul Bissonnette
We didn't lose in regulation.
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Ryan Whitney
Guys, he's a Swede now. He already told me he had a classic. He's literally all right.
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Keith Yandle
Then fucking move back.
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Ryan Whitney
He said, I'm going to somehow make my son Ted nasty at hockey. He's going to be unbelievable. And then the United States National Development team is going to call and the World junior team's going to call and I'm going to say it's payback, bitches, because you me over my whole life. And my son is playing for the Swedish national team. So Merls is officially a Swede.
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Mike Grinelli
I thought he ate too much that he became a Canadian.
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Paul Bissonnette
I wish that.
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Mike Grinelli
Last week in Montreal, I apologize to.
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Paul Bissonnette
The listeners for my voice.
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Ryan Whitney
You sound great.
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Paul Bissonnette
The last week I was protecting my voice at all costs. Like, like everything. Throat lozengers, everything. I don't get to call up the Chiclets. So yesterday I do all my ad reads with memes. I'm like, memes, am I done? Because I'm going to this meet and greet. It's going to be so loud. I want to talk to everybody, but I know I'll lose my voice. Like, I'm done, right? We're all set. Nope. Yeah, we're done. So I go to the meet and greet. I go back down. Wait, your wife's even like, why are you going back down there? Are you crazy? I'm like, yeah, I gotta go down and meet the fans. I gotta talk to everybody. Completely lose my voice yelling and screaming at that game. Maybe it might have been going into overtime. Geez, like you're on the pod tomorrow. I'm like, well, my voice is already gone, guys. So I don't know what you expect from me when I get there, but my voice will be gone. But another chickless decathlon for me. Only part of the crew that did every game.
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Mike Grinelli
Congratulations, Mar.
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Paul Bissonnette
Thank you, thank you.
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Mike Grinelli
Way to step up. Way to step up. And bringing it back to you, the guy who stole your number with the Colorado Avalanche. I think that it's really start time to having the conversation of Nathan McKinnon being the best player on the planet. Gets the MVP of best on best guys. It doesn't matter who he's playing.
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Ryan Whitney
MVP last year, probably MVP this year. He is the dog. I mean that shot like nothing hell but could do. There was about three bodies in the way. But just the fact that he fired it like high, knowing if this thing gets through, it's in.
- [29:03]
Paul Bissonnette
Smart shot, smart shot. That's what all these D are doing now. Makar Hughes, just the smart shot. Warrenski, get it through. They're smart, smart shots.
- [29:11]
Mike Grinelli
I I mentioned on when I posted one of those videos to Twitter. I was celebrating obviously every goal. But that's kind of the way that Colorado beat Winnipeg where they were throwing a lot to the net with bodies. Like a lot of roll ups. Like the way that Harley kind of Just attacked through the middle and. And then McKinnon rolled up. You get the screens, and you just gotta zip them through. You just gotta find. That was one thing that they didn't do against the Americans in the first game. I actually wanted to want him to keep doing it more and more throughout the championship game, but we're getting a little bit blocked. But overall, man, just an incredible performance from McKinnon. He's. He's the guy right now, boys. He's the best player on the planet. If I had to pick one guy, he's my guy.
- [29:54]
Paul Bissonnette
Hey, Biz, how do you feel? You just brought him up. Harley, how do you feel about one of your most impactful D being born in the US and playing his whole hockey career in the US With Harley?
- [30:05]
Mike Grinelli
I don't. I don't really like. I don't know. I don't know why he has Canadian citizenship, but I didn't even know that.
- [30:11]
Ryan Whitney
Where's he from?
- [30:12]
Mike Grinelli
Happy to have stars.
- [30:14]
Paul Bissonnette
Grew up playing and he lived in Syracuse. Born in Syracuse, N.Y. syracuse Star.
- [30:18]
Ryan Whitney
That could have been an example. Did, like, the US Pass him over for something. And he said, you guys, because that's crazy.
- [30:26]
Paul Bissonnette
I know you say hockey does not like Syracuse Stars. We know that for a fact.
- [30:32]
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- [31:59]
Mike Grinelli
Do you guys want to talk about the fact going into it that Hegel kind of chirped Kachuk about making all that stuff public? I, I, I actually think, like, the Kachuk doing all that just created more noise around the tournament. It just made everything that they did just drew more attention, necessarily not the Canadian way. I think Canadians and their team like to go about business in a different manner. Keep a little bit more.
- [32:24]
Keith Yandle
You haven't won a Stanley cup since 93. What are you talking about, buddy?
- [32:28]
Mike Grinelli
Okay, do this for me. Go calculate the percentage of amount of Canadians on every Stanley cup winning team in the midst of that run, and I bet you they have more of a percentage than any nationality on, of course, majority of those teams. So I want to get. Argument is kind of a bit of a wash, in my opinion.
- [32:45]
Ryan Whitney
I'm curious because I know Hagel came out and, and it actually was awesome how it worked out that there was two days between the final, from Monday's two games to Thursday, because you had this, like, WWE effect, that Quinn Hughes was coming. Maybe the most electric couple hours I've ever seen on Twitter. Like, Quinn, Mike Sullivan gets up. Quinn Hughes is coming. It's like, holy shit. Holy shit. And then you get into the rules of this tournament, which I think they, they didn't really know what was going to happen. But, like, the rules and the roster rules ended up kind of being like, such a clusterfuck. For example, Harley comes to the tournament, and then he's standing in the locker room looking out on the ice until Makar gets off the ice. Then he hops on. He ends up playing that night against the US So it's kind of madness that Hughes was going to come, but then he can't play unless another D goes down, which I thought was bullshit, considering Hughes was on the original roster. It almost should have changed if you were originally named, but whatever. I mean, you can't hit everything out of the park. And the NHL hit 99% out of the park with this. But Hagel comes out in those two days off, and he mentions, I, I didn't do this for the cameras. I did that for the flag. Talking about his fight with Kachuk now, after the game of the championship game, Marshawn said, hey, that's what happens when you run your mouth. Sometimes it bites in the ass. Talking about the Tkachuk brothers. What. What did the Tkachuk brothers say or do that was so like, you're, as you just said, biz, not the Canadian way. Like, they didn't fight off the opening draw for. For cameras. They didn't?
- [34:15]
Mike Grinelli
No. I think. I think that the fact that they brought it up and talked about the text thread after it was what probably ignited them a little bit. Keep in mind I'm coming from a straight up viewer standpoint. Like, I loved it. Like, I thought it draws so much more attention. It just added more spice and drama to the whole mix. And I also love the fact that Hagel chirped him before the game. Like, this is exactly what I want, you know? Yeah, I'm not.
- [34:39]
Ryan Whitney
And he dropped an incredible hammer after the game. After the game, group chat.
- [34:45]
Mike Grinelli
He has the team chat and renamed it Champion. So just all time pettiness coming from both sides, and I absolutely love it. And Marshawn Tkachuk, they have a bit of a rivalry too. Man. This is just a precursor to the Olympics, guys. This is. This is as good as it gets, right? I think that a lot of casual sports fans found out who Jack Eichel was this fucking week. Same with maybe not so much more. Austin Matthews, I guess he's more maybe of a household name, would you say? But just an incredible tournament and I couldn't be happier for the league.
- [35:19]
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah. The number one guy that broke out to me was we, we. We go by one name now. He's like Madonna, Slavin, this guy. There was not a single person in our box who could say his first name, but he was the best player on the ice last night. Shutting down every night. He did 170 foot diagonal backhand pass on the tape. Like, he's incredible, that guy. Oh, my God. Like, I would trade everybody I own on my team to get a D man like him.
- [35:49]
Ryan Whitney
He is a true shutdown defenseman.
- [35:52]
Keith Yandle
That cross ice pass, because it's a little thing my buddy was over who's not a huge hockey fan, and I rewounded it to show him that pass just because of like the whole situation of the game. The, you know, just making that backhand cross lace pass is. It takes balls and it just takes trust in yourself. And he's got. He is just a human eraser back there. Like the, the. The stick plays that he make the block that he had on Jarvis.
- [36:18]
Ryan Whitney
The, you know, when he laid down.
- [36:20]
Mike Grinelli
There, he took a goal away from Crosby, took a goal away from Sit.
- [36:24]
Ryan Whitney
At the empty netter. He is so fast. He's. I can't. And, and, and guys, Brock Faber, like those two together, those. That might be the best shutdown D pair like I can ever remember. And I know Canadians. You'll scream at me about whoever Pronger played with in the 2010 Games and all that and I get it. But recency bias these two Faber, every 50, 50 puck the guy comes out with the puck. He's not that tall, he's wide, he's a tank. You can just tell skates like to win too. He led the game in ice time. Faber did think he had over. I think he was 29 minutes, 30 seconds. But him and Slaving every. Like they, they were throwing them out there every other shift. It was like fox, like get him off the ice. And then all of a sudden you'd see Slaving and Faber Quan, you're like, oh, thank God. Nothing bad's going to happen. Nothing bad's going to happen. And Warrensky was great too, but Slaving, holy, holy. This guy, I couldn't believe him. I couldn't believe it. I mean, I'm talking McDavid, McKinnon, Crosby, he's just eating these guys. Lunch at the blue line. It was nuts. Fans around me like, who is this guy who's 74? I'm like, Jesus Christ. I'm just learning as well, folks.
- [37:36]
Paul Bissonnette
Just slaving one name. That's what he is known.
- [37:39]
Keith Yandle
Now I'm not a huge fan of watching the Minnesota Wild hand up. Love Billy Garon, love, you know, some of the guys in that team, but. So I didn't know a ton about Brock Faber and this guy is the real deal. Diana Steele, dude, I have never seen a young kid come in like that and just. It was like you were Talking about when McCarr came into the playoffs and was just like, I'm here. This is my time. Obviously they're different players. One's a little more dynamic offensively. But that Faber Slavin put me put. Sign me up for watching them on Best on Best for the next 10 years, please. And I will pay any amount of money for it.
- [38:20]
Ryan Whitney
That's what's great about this tournament as is it. It totally is an appetizer to next year in Milan. And now you kind of know, all right, we're putting those two together. And then Warensky completely carries whoever he's playing with. And now he was with Jake Sanderson. But Jake Sanderson looked great. But Warrensky, same thing, like the whole tournament, every time he was on the ice, I know he was out there for the first goal. I believe the McKinnon one. But other than that, like, his rushes, chance to score, his defense, phenomenal player. Like, I love rd. And then you get Quinn Hughes back. It's like, all right, different ball game. But the one question, the one question I had to you guys was it was very evident that Matthew Tkachuk was hurt. I'm guessing it's a groin based on how it kind of happened Saturday night in Montreal. And, you know, he takes a couple days off and he gets out there and right off the hop, you could tell Biz, he. He just. The guy's hurting, right? He had. He had nothing to give. So he didn't play a shift in the second, third, or overtime. I think he played about six minutes. And I'm sitting there like, oh, if you knew he was that injured, like, maybe throw in Tage Thompson. But Mike Sullivan was. I think somebody asked him after. It's like, he is like our emotional leader. He's our. He's our. We wanted him. Even if he couldn't go, we wanted him on the bench. I get it, but it sucks to go down to. To 11 forwards at that point and then not have one of your top guys be able to play. Like, an enormous loss. Like, we were more injured than you guys. Not an excuse. Not an excuse, but we were.
- [39:43]
Mike Grinelli
And I think Brady was a little banged up, too. Although he had a fucking awesome game on the forecheck like a maniac. And I think we've spread a lot of love over the States. One guy that we haven't mentioned yet for Canada, Sam the Bennett menace. Why you laughing? Why are you laughing yet?
- [39:59]
Keith Yandle
Because Hammer.
- [40:01]
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah, that guy's a weapon.
- [40:03]
Mike Grinelli
He's a weapon. How about that fucking goal? He scores. He was laying on hits heavy on the forecheck. Just a junkyard dog. If I'm going. If I'm going. Best on best. And you need a. You need a guy you could stand next to, who you could trust. Who. Who to go to bat with, who to go to war with. I'm taking Sam Bennett majority of the time. Man, what an absolute gamer. The fact that the. The Calgary Flame just gave that guy away. What a disgrace.
- [40:30]
Keith Yandle
They should all be locked up, whoever traded him.
- [40:32]
Mike Grinelli
What a. What a. What a miss that was.
- [40:35]
Keith Yandle
He wasn't even part of the huberdo. He wasn't part of the Huberdo. No, no, he was before that. Yeah, we got him the. I can't even remember who he was trading.
- [40:42]
Mike Grinelli
Probably for a nothing burger too. I'd be sh. I. I think it might have been like a first rounder. Maybe not even like a second rounder.
- [40:51]
Ryan Whitney
He was traded with a sixth round pick to the Florida Panthers in exchange for the draft rights to Emil Hyneman. Hyneman, who's now in Montreal and a second rounder.
- [41:04]
Mike Grinelli
So that's a mess. That's a big mess.
- [41:07]
Ryan Whitney
But. But here's the thing. He's now people who are sick of the Panthers and how hard they play the Panthers, the animals, the lunatics that he's gone. I think he's gone because after this tournament and the cup finals, it's like he's in the cap, going up. Somebody is going to throw him a bag that you cannot turn down. In my mind now, maybe I'm wrong. And he's willing to take a lot less. I don't think Florida will be able to pay him what other teams are going to throw him. I think the Toronto Maple Leafs would be willing to pay that guy like $10 million a year. He's exactly what Toronto needs, Biz and. And he's gonna get a crazy number. What a goal though. I thought he was going to go to the backhand. He kind of made that little fake. It just goes right over the shoulder of Hellebuck and tie ball game.
- [41:52]
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah, shout out Marner on that goal. He really sick.
- [41:56]
Mike Grinelli
More importantly, man, the confidence and experience my Leafs gained in that tournament. I mean, we knew Nylander was clutch. He had a hell of attorney. Matthews. He usually shows up pretty good in big games, maybe not every single time, but he was a monster in that one. Then for Marner to have two assists and finally show up in a big moment where things were getting physical, intense like a playoff atmosphere. That is such a huge confidence boost for Mitchie Marner. I say give him the 14 million now, for fuck's sakes. 8 times 14 handed over. He is who rotten and thought he was.
- [42:30]
Keith Yandle
I love the fact like obviously you know what all these guys can do offensively, like mc, you know, Matthews and. And Eichel, like. But what they did defensively and I don't know if I just don't pay.
- [42:44]
Mike Grinelli
Attention to them as much doing it for years.
- [42:47]
Keith Yandle
No, no, I know, but. But to do it against best on best is it. It was so impressive to me the way that those guys took the responsibility of, you know, Just buckling down defensively like, never cheating. Back checking like Jack Eichel. Back checking is unbelievable. He. His first three strides are back as hard as he can. And it's the same with, you know, everyone else like Sid. Like, every guy. Every guy in that tournament grew up idolizing Sid. No matter what team you're on, he led the way. He's carried this league for the last 20 years. And he plays hard, plays for his country, plays for his league. And you can just tell. Every guy just tries to want to be like him a little bit. Wants to play hard, wants to play the game the right way. And just a amazing, amazing couple days.
- [43:34]
Ryan Whitney
I had a. I had a giant just, you know, cherry on top of my shit Sunday, where I get into bed. I just drove directly home, got right into bed, and I'm just scrolling my phone, and a video pops up of McDavid, Marshawn, and Crosby out in the hallway outside the locker room. And who do they run into but another serial winner, Patrice Bergeron. I'm like, jesus. And what does Bergeron say? He says, sid, you just keep on winning, huh? And I said, fuck me. These fucking guys have been tooling on our country for years. They did it in world juniors. They did it in the Olympics twice, and they can't stop winning. And even Bergeron saying, you can't stop winning. McDavid's sitting there, and he. And you take the. You take the flame from. From Crosby. Now you score the game winner, you get a game winner, and you get a game winner, and you get a hall of fame career, and you get a gold medal, and you get a cup. Fuck me. But seeing Bergeron underneath, it's like, that's. That's what they do. They win. They.
- [44:35]
Mike Grinelli
Well, you guys are champions in some regard. You guys are the champions of fake news. Fake news.
- [44:42]
Ryan Whitney
I mean, you got the community note. I want to know, how did that community note get deleted? And for people who don't know, biz. Let me just set it up.
- [44:48]
Mike Grinelli
Yeah, Fox News.
- [44:50]
Ryan Whitney
Fox News. Legacy media is dead. Biz said Fox News puts up a tweet. Ex Team Canada star says country will be a national crisis if they lose tonight against a lot of truth to that headline. So I click on. I click on the thing, and I'm thinking, wow. Pronger. Is Scott Niedermeyer talking to Fox News? Adam Foote. Wait, Joe Sakic. And I see your fucking face and your big, big potato nose. And I said, oh, I retweeted faster than you could retweet. I Said star, Team Canada star. And then all of a sudden, a couple hours later, we get an all time community note. I mean, a community note that stopped me dead in my tracks.
- [45:30]
Mike Grinelli
Have your laughs, have your chocolate.
- [45:32]
Ryan Whitney
Dead in my tracks. I tweeted. I immediately said, did. Did Biz Biz just got hit harder by a community note than he did by six Irish travelers. The community note said Bissonnet may have played for Team Canada as a teenager in the Under 18 World Championships. He was far from a and could be considered the pinnacle of his career. Paul Biz Nasty never played for Canada again. His fame has come post career as a media personality. I thought we won the game. I thought that was it. It's over. I don't even think we needed to play it after that. Community.
- [46:07]
Mike Grinelli
You guys are all about the media, all about the flashy shit, all about the group techs. We just handle business in Canada. I could take all your ricochet shots. Yeah. Hey, it was such a gutless shot. I even had Sarah Palin defending me on Twitter.
- [46:23]
Ryan Whitney
How did it deleted? That's what I don't get. Sarah Palin might have called.
- [46:27]
Mike Grinelli
Scrub it. I had my new girlfriend, Sarah Palin, scrub it. It was a pretty tough start to the week for me, guys. Not only getting dummied online by Fox News, but I found out the love of my life, Bonnie Blue, is pregnant with another man's child. So this is a big, big W in Canada for many, many reasons. All right, folks, and I thank you for all your support. So my, me and Sarah Palin are off into the sunset now because she is for her age, boys, she is a 10. She is a 10 out of fucking 5.
- [47:00]
Ryan Whitney
You know who I loved? You know who I absolutely loved. And. And I'm like, wow. It makes total sense. He's a captain. He's worked his way from the fourth line to one of the top players on the team. And I gotta think Detroit possibly gets in now. Dylan Larkin Boyce.
- [47:18]
Mike Grinelli
Oh, yeah.
- [47:18]
Ryan Whitney
What a player.
- [47:19]
Mike Grinelli
Yeah.
- [47:19]
Ryan Whitney
That guy is nails. Talk about defense and offense. I think the biggest takeaway from the game and the tournament is if you're going to play for Team USA or Team Canada, you have to be able to play both sides of the puck. And that was. That was what kind of upset me. And I don't know if you guys, I can go to you biz first. Like, we're looking at trying to match McDavid and trying to match McKinnon and the upper echelon of the NHL. It's like, fuck, we need Guys, we got Matthews. We need guys. We need guys. And you're kind of hoping Jack Hughes is one of those guys, I don't know in that tournament. And, and I'm gonna say he's very young. I think he's 22, maybe 23. And that's his first best on best with a physicality and everything ramps up. But kind of looked a little boy versus man type situation for him throughout the tournament. And maybe it changes as he gets bigger and stronger and older. But I was left hoping for more from him. Biz.
- [48:17]
Mike Grinelli
Yeah, I. But like, and, and like, this isn't a ricochet shot at Marner either. I thought like in prior playoff experience it was very similar where like, sometimes these smaller guys, when the environment gets a little bit tense, there's way less room to work without there. And it's very smothering hockey. And you also have to be very impactful on the defensive side. I think that this, like, I'll go back to my comments about it being a precursor to the Olympics. Like, he's going to have a full year here to put some time in. Into his game, into the gym, have a big offseason in order to come back and make an impact. Now maybe things are different with the mentality in which he plays with where his brother's on the ice and he's a lot more offensive and they're sharing a brain and they're finding each other. So maybe not having his brother on the team hurt him a little bit. But listen, he's very young and a lot of room to grow here. And getting this experience in this tournament, I'm sure will spark him along with plenty of other guys. And it's not even the guys that were involved in were picked on the team. Like, you got to think Jason Robertson watched that and is thinking, I want to fucking get there. Same thing goes with Paige Thompson. You don't think Cole Caufield's even more motivated, especially after getting snubbed? Bates on the season that he had. Think about all the Canadians, think about Wyatt Johnston, like, he fucking probably wants to get in the mix in. So there's a lot of these young players who watch that tournament who are like, damn, like, not only do I want to be a part of that, but I got a lot of work in order to put into my game, in order to be worthy of being a part of that.
- [49:52]
Ryan Whitney
And the only reason. Before you go, G, sorry. The only reason I bring up Jack Hughes is because he's so good that, like, for us to get to the level where we finally can get by you guys. Like the first overall pick, like hundred point type star that Jack Hughes is, we need him to become truly dominant in these games. Like I'm saying it because, like, he is the guy that we're gonna really need the next two, four, eight years to become the guy. He is our answer to a lot of those top guys because of his skill and his speed, like, he has to turn into that, which I believe he can.
- [50:29]
Mike Grinelli
And you think that, but you're like, kind of the way that Billy G. You're building a roster to try to combat the best other teams where there's only so much top six space, right? So if you think that you have that locked in with guys who can not only play offensively under that type of pressure, that type of tight gap, you know, close defense, right? If, if, if you're not getting those minutes, like, is he valuable on a lower line? And that's where the, that's where you got to balance that.
- [50:58]
Ryan Whitney
We need him to be a top six like, like if, if we're gonna win a gold medal or a World cup, he's gonna be our top, one of our top three players.
- [51:07]
Mike Grinelli
Yeah, that's how it's not. Maybe he's the extra guy where if one of those guys goes down, you throw him in, in that situation. But the thing is now with us taking leaps and bounds, steps to get better is they got a lot of dogs, man. There's only so much ice time out there, people.
- [51:25]
Ryan Whitney
Kyle Connor gets scratched.
- [51:27]
Mike Grinelli
People were complaining before the game against about Kyle Conner getting scratched for Kreider. Now I said in the group chat, like, I don't know, man. Kreis is a bit of a pain in the ass around the blue paint. He's a fast guy. He could forecheck like a madman. Maybe not necessarily the most physical guy, but you'd assume in a game like that, you, you're coming out of your comfort zone, right? So a guy like Kyle Conner, I thought he was effective at times in the tournament, but also maybe one dimensional in the sense of the role that he needed to play in that game. Like, it's just like, who, who are going to be your dogs? Like, there might be more skilled players. Like you might say Scheifele's more skilled than Sam Bennett, but Sam Bennett has other variables that can squeeze in the top six to make him more valuable in a situation like that. And that's just, that's just the way it is. People can say, oh, Shively, is more valuable and a better player than, than Jarvis. It's like, well, but maybe you need that guy penalty killing and maybe you need him providing energy that a guy like Scheifele Knight might not be able to do in a bottom six role. So there's a lot of thought that goes into these rosters, guys where, you know, I think that Jack Hughes is a guy that's for sure penciled in on that Olympic roster. But you have to construct your roster to compete against Canada, potentially Russia. Sweden ain't going away. Finland's gonna have a better showing with Haskin in in their back end a lot healthier and probably having a little bit of bad taste in their mouth based on this performance here. Although not terrible, they finished fourth. So there's a lot of pride at stake here.
- [53:01]
Dylan Larkin
And you mentioned Dylan Larkin and I thought he had a really interesting quote after the game kind of about the state of USA Hockey and guys wanting to play for USA Hockey. He said, we've had a tough time with USA Hockey getting guys to play in the World Championship. Guys who are at home watching this, I hope they want a piece of it. They've got to go to the World Championships and prove themselves if they want to play for their country. We've got to start winning that tournament. And I think that's where, you know, Canada and those guys, they go and play and that's where it starts. Pride for your country, pride for your flag. Putting the crest on and going out for a game is just an unbelievable feeling. The game really grew, but I hope it pushes guys to want a piece of this. So I thought it's really interesting because that's something in the past, USA never wins the World Championships.
- [53:43]
Mike Grinelli
Right.
- [53:43]
Dylan Larkin
Like we need some of these guys like Jack Hughes going over there half the time.
- [53:46]
Mike Grinelli
You're sounding a roster full of half college guys, aren't you?
- [53:49]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah. Play playoffs. You know, any guy who's not in the playoffs, you'll see this year go because it's Olympics next year and you kind of have to if you want a chance. But yeah, it would be ideal if. It does seem like Canada is sending very like high level players who don't make the playoffs or even losing the first round, you see guys go right over there. That's a good point by him because the world really. Yeah.
- [54:15]
Paul Bissonnette
Americans used to fake countries not to go. You guys used to fake injuries like, I don't want to go to world Championship. My hands broken. I know that firsthand fact. Also the other part is how Team Canada handles The families and everything, how they. They fly them over, they have events set up. They have the hats like business, weren't they. They take care of everything. So the guys want to go play. Sweden needs to step up with that. US needs to step up with that and make it something you want to go to. Still World Championships.
- [54:45]
Keith Yandle
You got to think with all the, the way USA Hockey is going with all these guys like Beezer's in charge, right? And then you got Billy G at the helm, they're probably running it a little bit different than when we were playing world World Championships. They're treating the guys the way they probably deserve to be treated. So I, I love those comments from Larkin. Just proves to me the guy bleeds red, white and blue. He's a shoe in for any US Team for, for the rest of his career. Those comments alone and. But yeah, you got to think that they're treating them better than they were back when we were, you know, going through it. Right, Whit?
- [55:25]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah. Also I think with Olympics next year, so everyone's going this year who isn't in the playoffs. The good thing is then you got 28, then you got 30 Olympics, then you got 32. World Cup. So now it's like guys are probably going to have to go to the world Championships every year because there is a best on best coming up so soon after each season. So that. That is a great point by him. And I think you'll see a change in that where, hey, if I want a team, if I want a chance of making that best on best World cup or Olympic roster and my team's out of the playoffs, I'm going to worlds and then maybe. I mean, has the US Won a World championship? They might have won one in like the 30s or. I don't even know if they've ever won one.
- [56:04]
Mike Grinelli
I think it was 30 relegated.
- [56:05]
Keith Yandle
The year I was. You guys got relegated pretty much.
- [56:09]
Ryan Whitney
That's how bad. That's how down bad we are, folks. That's how.
- [56:13]
Keith Yandle
That's how Oshi made the team because we had to. We beat Italy. I think it was Italy in a shootout and he scored like seven times in a row and he had one contact in.
- [56:22]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, like. Like he did against Russia. He'd already done that.
- [56:25]
Keith Yandle
That's why he got chose for that team because of the shootouts.
- [56:28]
Ryan Whitney
I never knew he had done that prior with one contact in.
- [56:32]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, we had a night the night before the game.
- [56:36]
Ryan Whitney
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- [58:49]
Mike Grinelli
Yeah. I, the boys. I, I, I, I said at the start the pod guys, I think that this win means a lot more than, than you guys will ever know given how you guys have been trying to bully us. You and you and your president. But I, I said at the beginning of the pod, I think it was the perfect political climate to spice things up and make this thing even more interesting. And it's just nice to come out on top. We needed this Canada and, and I'm proud of myself for not coming in and rubbing your nose in it. We did that last night.
- [59:20]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, you're proud of yourself. Good. Yeah, I'm proud of you.
- [59:23]
Keith Yandle
This is business. Saying it means so much because if had they lost and the country went into a great depression, it would have been on his back. That's what it would have been your fault.
- [59:32]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, he was, he was done. You was done. I had all these things. I was like you didn't come to the game as not nothing for him though. I had nothing for him.
- [59:40]
Mike Grinelli
See that now, now I regret not coming and swinging you, but that's Canadian, buddy. Listen, listen. I said it halfway through the pod. That's the Canadian way. We take the high road. We're not worrying about telling the media that we pre planned that fight on group text. We're just going to go in the locker room, we're going to re strategize. We're going to handle our business appropriately. We're going to win our fights. People are saying we lost those fights. We ain't. We didn't lose those fights. We didn't lose those ones. And then we brought it when the chips were on the table. We had a goalie that everybody doubted. He fucking stuffed you guys in the locker. We had a depleted back end with Makar playing with illness. He stuffed you in a locker. You doubted McJesus and whether he could win the big one. Big cat and pft. Fuck you. He stuffed you in a locker. Canadian championship. Our game, our time and you.
- [60:38]
Keith Yandle
I, I got, I gotta have some hand up accountability here.
- [60:41]
Mike Grinelli
Yeah.
- [60:42]
Keith Yandle
I was the guy who sent Oldie to to part of my take.
- [60:45]
Ryan Whitney
Oh my God.
- [60:46]
Paul Bissonnette
Oh, the difference made change the streaming game forever.
- [60:50]
Ryan Whitney
Let me set this up for people who don't know. Pardon my take Monster number one pod in the world for sports. They were looking for a very authentic Canadian to go stream the game with Big Cat and and pft. And next thing you know, Keith texts our group chat. I'm sending them a beauty boys who is this guy. And I've never seen, as Merle said last night, I've never seen big cat laugh that hard. Who is this guy?
- [61:15]
Mike Grinelli
I've never seen a moose knuckle look like that either. That was the most disgusting five hole area drinking maple syrup after the game. Oh yeah, that was a fupa and a half.
- [61:27]
Keith Yandle
I don't know if I, if I read it wrong or saw it wrong at one point. Was there 600, 2,000 people watching that live stream or no way.
- [61:37]
Ryan Whitney
I don't think so.
- [61:38]
Keith Yandle
No. Okay. It might have been 60,000, but yeah.
- [61:41]
Ryan Whitney
Old.
- [61:42]
Paul Bissonnette
No, I, I would guess 600,000. I've watched their football streams that have three or 400.
- [61:46]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, really?
- [61:47]
Mike Grinelli
Yeah.
- [61:47]
Paul Bissonnette
And what's, what that guy was doing?
- [61:49]
Ryan Whitney
Oh my God.
- [61:51]
Mike Grinelli
Who is, how do you know this guy? Yance?
- [61:53]
Keith Yandle
My first, you want to hear my first interaction with him?
- [61:56]
Mike Grinelli
Yeah.
- [61:58]
Keith Yandle
Sitting in the locker room getting ready for the first game of the NHL playoffs with the New York Rangers. All of a sudden, boom, the door busts open. I see this guy, all glittered up, paint on his chest, dancing around, fedora on. Because they used to give out the fedora for the player of the game. Dancing around the locker room, getting us fired up. I'm like, what the hell is going on here? What is this? Is this guy. Because I was new, I got traded at the deadline that year. I'm looking around, everyone's going nuts for him. I, I, I asked Casey, I'm like, dude, who the is this guy? He's like, that's Nasher's best friend. I'm like, rick Nash, the most quiet human being on the planet. What are you talking about? That can't be his best friend. He's like, it's his best friend in the world. He loves him to death. I'm like, holy. The Rangers, we, they used to fly him in before every series. He would dance his ass off to get us going and then just leave. He almost missed the birth of his firstborn child to be at our game to dance. He was like, I don't know if I can make it. My, my, my wife's due tomorrow, the game.
- [63:06]
Mike Grinelli
And then Nasher's like, nah, nah, you're coming.
- [63:09]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, he, he, but he, he's just that, he's a typical Canadian. He'd do anything for his friends. Just a great, great guy. But yeah, he's, he just refuses to ever wear.
- [63:19]
Mike Grinelli
What does he do for a living?
- [63:21]
Keith Yandle
Trash man.
- [63:23]
Mike Grinelli
He's a trash man.
- [63:24]
Keith Yandle
Or what did he call it? Doesn't he get naked Driving the truck sanitize sanitation. What does he call it? A sanitation advisor or something. But yeah he drives the. Does the trash in the summertime and then plows plows your beautiful Canadian roads in in the wintertime. He is just an all time human.
- [63:44]
Ryan Whitney
But still should hire that guy after.
- [63:47]
Keith Yandle
That performance he might get signed to whoever busting with the boys went to.
- [63:52]
Mike Grinelli
People are. People are saying that it's going to be a letdown going to regular season hockey now. I completely disagree. I think we carry this momentum over. We got the OV goal chase. We got the chase to the fuck chase for the wild card playoff positioning. I think things are just ramping up. This is. This is it baby. Hockey's. Hockey's got a period of time here where they can really take a stranglehold. And that was another topic of conversation given the two day layover. I thought PK Suban did a great job of basically carving the NBA saying how it's a joke product and how the NBA when you these guys put the jersey onto their country. They fucking care. They ain't messing around. And if if a the Amazon or whoever does all this behind the scenes stuff they better start shooting the build up to the Olympics now. I think. I think basketball actually ended up doing one and it turned out pretty good. Where they followed a bunch of teams around for last year's Summer Olympics. They got what's you just did.
- [64:49]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, I just finished that documentary. It was great.
- [64:51]
Mike Grinelli
It was good.
- [64:52]
Keith Yandle
You were actually dialed Michelle Obama. I think they produced it.
- [64:56]
Mike Grinelli
No shit.
- [64:58]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, it was great. Yeah, I 100% agree with that. That they should do that for. For the hockey. For every team too. Not just one team. I need every team.
- [65:06]
Mike Grinelli
I wouldn't even do an all star game next year. They're supposed to do it in Long island before they go over to the Olympics. I think they should just nix it. Let these guys rest and worry about the product at the Olympics.
- [65:17]
Ryan Whitney
I think every year there is an Olympics or best on best. Considering they've already decided all the world Cups will be mid season. I honestly think just don't stop the games and just make it by weeks. I know they've kind of done this like the NFL and just keep games going all year and don't do an all star game because we're going to end up looking like the NBA did at their all star game next year. If we have one now it'll be a little different because the next week will be the Olympics beginning. But any year there's no best on Best. We can't be doing the All Star shenanigans. We can't be doing it. And the other final takeaway I have, well, first off is, like, these animals, these guys who went in there and put everything on the line mid season. Like, Faber has a game Saturday afternoon. He has a game in like 24 hours. And it's just amazing to think that they're going to hop right back in. But while hopping right back in, it might seem so easy to some of these guys. Forget how tired and beat up you are. But I'm talking, like, last night's game was the best hockey game I've ever seen. It was the fastest game I've ever been a witness to. There was no time, there was no space. You had absolutely no room to do anything. McDavid and McKinnon and Matthews and all these superstars that we got to watch, they're going to get out there against a couple fourth liners and feel like they're playing against Phantoms. It's going to be like, oh, look. Because every time you came down on a guy, it was the best player you're going against. Now you're going to get a couple matchups. Like, I got some room, I got some time. It's going to feel like a joke to these guys when they get good matchups. So I'm sick, though, boys. I'm still sick. Not. Not truly sick, just sick to my stomach for losing again to Canada.
- [67:02]
Mike Grinelli
Bravo, NHL. Bravo.
- [67:05]
Ryan Whitney
Seriously, Bravo, NHL. And bravo, players. And hopefully we see a growth in the game five to ten years from now that really stem from this tournament and the amount of people who watched it. I'd be shocked if that doesn't happen. It's going to be incredible to see the game grow and continue to be on this trajectory that none of us could have imagined 10 years ago. It's wild to see and I'm just so proud to have played hockey, to have represented my country, and to now get to witness the greatest generation of players. Like, it's just unreal. The talent on the ice, the speed, the skill, and the tenacity that all these guys brought. They would have done anything to win that game last night, and they're just mid season. That's. That's how many warriors play this game that we all love. So amazing. And the final thing I have to say, bad news is we want to shout out the family and all the people in Pittsburgh and all the people who loved Mike Language, who really was the voice of the Penguins for so long. He Beat it. Beat him like a rented mule. All his sayings, scratch my back with a hacksaw. He was just the voice of the Penguins through the, the Mario and the Yager days. And then Sid and Malcolm come and he went over to radio and he still just crushed it all the time. And I think that he's a true legend in Pittsburgh. I mean, every single Pittsburgh native who thinks of the Penguins, you think of Mike Lang, and that guy will be remembered forever there. It was such brutal news that, that, that when we found out he passed away. So thinking of his, his family and his friends and the entire city of Pittsburgh, you guys lost the legend. But he'll never, ever be forgotten because every highlight played, you'll have Mike Lang's voice in the background announcing an all time goal with an all time call. So a great, great week of hockey. Really tough news from Pittsburgh with Mike Lang. But I love all you guys, even you, Biz. I'll tell you, buddy. Canada and America, we've always been friends. We've always been brother in arms. I would never have it changed. Biz, here's my hand.
- [69:08]
Mike Grinelli
Hey, there's only one left thing to say.
- [69:13]
Ryan Whitney
O Canada.
- [69:17]
Mike Grinelli
Our home and native land that's all.
- [69:23]
Ryan Whitney
I knew you didn't know the rest of the words.
- [69:25]
Keith Yandle
More than that lady last night.
- [69:27]
Ryan Whitney
Love you, everyone. We're ending this. We're ending this.
- [69:29]
Keith Yandle
Bye.
- [69:29]
Ryan Whitney
Bye. I.
- [69:50]
Paul Bissonnette
Feel.
- [70:14]
Ryan Whitney
I get someday.