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Ryan Whitney
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R.A. Mike Grinelli
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Keith Yandle
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Ryan Whitney
Ryan Whitney. Paul Vincent, R.A. mike Grinelli. Spittin Chickfila. What is up, folks? What is up? Welcome very much welcome and thank you. Coming. Thank you for coming to episode 563 of the Spit and Chickens podcast. I can't speak. I'm excited. My team's moving on. Biz, your team stinks, Keith. You guys are about to move on. But first, boom.
Keith Yandle
It's Friday.
Ryan Whitney
My earpiece fell out. I can't even hear what I'm saying. I don't even know if you guys can hear me. But listen right now. Pink Whitney, where it's at. I was drinking it, celebrating. Moving on to the second round. Big old bottle, pink drink. Thank you for coming. I got to put my earpiece back in. And thank you to everyone who's ever drank Pink Whitney, who's ever bought Pink Whitney, ever enjoyed it with family members, friends, girlfriends, husbands. My earpieces are broken. My earpieces are broken. So I think I'm going to have to figure out where to go get some new earpieces. They both ripped out. My ears are so big. I can't hear you guys. And I. And I don't have earpieces right now. So why don't you guys start talking while I try to figure this out?
Paul Bissonnette
She's going off the dome.
Keith Yandle
What a crazy start to the pot.
Ryan Whitney
I mean, it's pretty ironic that I need new earpieces considering I have huge ears. So I don't know what I'm going to do here, guys. I'm in one.
Keith Yandle
I feel like the Leafs should take a page out of his book and block the noise out, so to speak. Right, Yan?
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah.
Keith Yandle
The way things are going on right now, and before Whit starts talking again, my understanding is you did a. A local radio hit in Toronto this morning. Like, how did that happen?
Paul Bissonnette
I flew up there. I flew up there to do that.
Keith Yandle
Live in studio with Kyprios. He was unloading the clip yesterday.
Paul Bissonnette
I know he's had enough. Yeah, no, I. The last two days, I did one that before game five too. So I just want to stick with the same. You know, what got us to where we are, so I wanted to. I actually reached out to see if I could do it, but yeah, no, it was good. But yeah, you can tell, man. It's like. I don't know if it's nerves, I don't know if it's people just wanting this series to be over one way or the other. They are. It's.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
It's.
Paul Bissonnette
It's like the world is coming to an end in Toronto biz and I don't get it. I don't like it. It's just still life at the end of the day.
Keith Yandle
I don't like it either.
Paul Bissonnette
I think. You know what I think really helped your mood is having Oldie by your side. His positivity, his. He knows.
Keith Yandle
You mean my life coach.
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah.
Keith Yandle
Yeah, I've hired him as my life coach. And Yance, I agree with you. It's fucking crazy. I would say 99% of Leaf's fan base is acting like the series is already over.
Paul Bissonnette
I know.
Keith Yandle
Like, hey man, I get it. The last two games the Leafs have laid an egg. Their starts have been horrendous going back to game four. Four fucking minor penalties last game, I think they were out shot 15, 16 to 4. Wall had to stand on his head. Absolute rubbish. Brutal performances mainly from the core four. I think the, the, the culprits right now as far as as horrible hockey are are Austin Matthews and Marner. They're probably taking the most heat of anyone given the fact that Nylander has had a pretty solid playoff. I thought that Nys has obviously been good. Tavares has been solid. My God, the way that Leafs fans are acting right now and just like.
Ryan Whitney
They'Re right, they have a reason to be acting like this. Come on.
Keith Yandle
Are you out of your mind?
Paul Bissonnette
He, he, he's got his life coach. Oldie. He's got his life coaching, his performance.
Keith Yandle
And not happy with those guys. But acting like the fucking series is over.
Ryan Whitney
Like, why would you not act that way?
Keith Yandle
Why would you give up before it's over? That's a loser mentality. That's not the fucking heart of the.
Ryan Whitney
You guys are a loser franchise.
Keith Yandle
You know what? We've earned that title up until this point, but we're still in the fucking fight right now.
Ryan Whitney
Still in the fight. You're still in the fight. And as Jan's point, but I don't.
Keith Yandle
Blame these fumble fucking your headphones if they're not even still working. I had Oldie with me and you know what? Maybe I would have been a little bit in the dumps today and not as positive coming in here and. And had a little bit of mojo to fucking continue this fight. But Oldie man, he's got the right attitude. He's a fucking positive guy, man. He knows that there's still an opportunity to change this thing around. Mitch Marner. It might be his last few games as a Maple Leaf. Is that how you want to go out, Mitch? Is people remembering you for. For your game three blunder? Like I talked about last podcast, you're behind the back, spinorama in game five, turnover in the back of your net three nothing. And then they go on to a 6:1 route. By the way, Yan's posting that Houston's video and them beating us six to one. Like, what the fuck is that?
Ryan Whitney
Like, that is when you pointed out it was six one, I. I laughed out loud. That tweet was incredible. Like, what are the chances it ends up being six to one? You know, you had to get that one at the end. That was you just throwing that final punch. That was them. That was you in the parking lot just talking to one.
Keith Yandle
Final biz at cvs, fighting Mitch, Marner, Matthews and the rest of the Toronto Maple Leafs. They should take a page out of my book. You should be able to laugh at yourself once in a while because that performance on home ice was laughable. But guess what? We woke up today. The sun is shining, we're breathing fresh air, and we're alive, baby.
Ryan Whitney
We're alive.
Keith Yandle
And this one ain't over. It's not. I know that smirk on your face. You think it's over. And a smirk on. On Matthew Tkachuk's face at the end of that game when that building was half empty. He thinks it's over too. But I like where we sit backs against the wall, adversity. And I won't get to it yet. But I have a special announcement. Some breaking news on this podcast as to how we're going to turn this series around. But before we get there. Go ahead, Yance. Go ahead, Whit. Pepper me with whatever the you got. Give it to me.
Paul Bissonnette
I. I got, like, at the end of the day, Florida had two bad games. The first two games. They go down two all. If roles were reversed and. And Toronto went down two all, city would have been burning down. They don't have that luxury that Florida has of just going out, figuring out their game, getting back to where they know how to play, getting back to how they played the last two years. They don't have the outside pressure that Toronto has. Toronto drops two games. They're up 2 0. They dropped two. World's ending. The world is ending biz. So I think, honestly, Toronto should somehow elect Oldie as mayor, have him stand in for the next couple days and calm that city down because you guys are riding at a 10 and one little thing is going to pop you guys off. If the Panthers somehow go out and score first tonight, the city of Toronto may disappear off the face of the earth.
Keith Yandle
That's, you know what an. That's actually a heck of an idea. But unfortunately that can't happen because right now Oldie is in Fort Lauderdale. And that's the breaking news. I have sent Oldie down to Fort Lauderdale not just by himself with my lucky yellow shirt. And we will be infiltrating that building tonight in sunrise. And he is going to bring the positive juju for the Toronto vap. He's going to be at the Florida Panthers end and warm up with with the Leafs and seven sign and we're going to pull this victory off on the road and we're going to drag them back just like Connor McDavid said. We're going to drag him back to Edmonton, we're going to drag him back to Toronto. I see that look on your face, Whit. I know you weren't expecting this, but all that positive leaf energy, we're not keeping it, wasting it in Ontario. We're sending it down right into the heart of the fire. We're going into Sunrise.
Ryan Whitney
You could send Wendell Clark, Doug Gilmore, Stumpy Thomas, you could send them all. This thing's done, this thing's over. And I actually respect Aldi and I respect you for being like, you know, maybe 5% of the fan base, like the series isn't over. But those 95% of people and fans of the Toronto Maple Leafs, they know it's over. They've seen this story over and over and over and they've witnessed big, big time highly paid players not show up when it matters. And every good team, every championship team's best players dominate. That's. That's literally the locker room. You're the locker room right now. Yeah, you're Barubi. Hey guys, we gotta get the deeper. Did you hear the let's do that? I got backwards sauce fly through the middle. I. I'm the Leafs. We're gods in Toronto. Everyone loves us. I know I want to get points. I don't want to play hard hockey, chief. Okay, well I want to Stanley cup and I beat the out of people and I know how to do it. I don't care. I want 13 and a half million. I want to be the highest played player even though I've never done anything in the playoffs. That's the Leafs. And that's your problem.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
You don't have AirPod.
Paul Bissonnette
Witty.
Ryan Whitney
A core group of players that knows what it takes to win. And you're playing against a team that.
Keith Yandle
You'Ve never been on a cold streak. Hey, yeah. You never been on a cold streak my whole life.
Paul Bissonnette
Basically 41 years.
Ryan Whitney
42. Yeah, I know. Cold streaks. Now, that was funny.
Keith Yandle
That was funny. This team, we're not getting to the Oilers just yet.
Ryan Whitney
You can gloat all you want, but.
Keith Yandle
I don't think you heard the words out of my mouth.
Ryan Whitney
Oldie.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Who?
Keith Yandle
Some of you who are listening right now are like, who the fuck is Oldie? We'll explain who Aldi is. He's my life coach, my spirit animal. But not only is he going down to sunrise to bring positive juju to my Toronto Maple Leafs, I sent him with my lucky yellow shirt. We're talking about.
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah. What do you mean lucky that your shirt's on a cold streak?
Keith Yandle
It's unfortunate you've never been beat in a playoff series before. This series isn't over. I think that you guys have failed to listen to the words that have came out of my mouth. I don't know how many Leafs fans are in the chat that have maybe changed their perspective on what the is actually going on, but if you woke up this morning thinking the sky was falling and that the Leafs are not going to come back in this series, log off. Get the.
Ryan Whitney
My God. Lives like. Oh, Game six today, boys. That means we buzzing. That means we bumping. That means we grinding. Oh, yeah, boys. Full gas. Let's go. 110% today. Leafs Nation. We got the juice flowing. The buns are buzzing. Let go booze. Show these boys what the Maple Leafs are made of. Let's go. This nation. We want everyone full gas tonight. Let's go, boys.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Let's go.
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, yada there we coming. Coming back for game seven. Is this live? Is that. I thought he was on with us.
Keith Yandle
Oh, oh, he's always on, Witty. He's always on. Now, before we could continue, I want to throw it over to Yan's. So you know, Aldi, this is. There's history here. He was actually on the PMT live stream for Four nations where he brought luck to Team Canada. So he has gone down to the US before and brought Canada luck. And that was at the Four Nations. But now this is. This is going to be the big one. This is David versus Goliath. Can he conquer the big one in Lauderdale Yan's, I'll throw it over to you.
Paul Bissonnette
I mean, there's a 90% chance he gets. He gets himself in a, in a, in a Bud Light headlock at the elbow room and doesn't even show up to the game.
Ryan Whitney
Oh yeah, he, he might be on a boat.
Paul Bissonnette
And biz, you gotta realize he's, he's worse than Drake. He's the biggest bandwagon fan in the world. He has more teams than you do. So him just doing this, he's just trying to please you right now.
Ryan Whitney
I thought he was an Oilers fan. He's been writing me about the Oilers.
Paul Bissonnette
He's a, he's, he's Drake, he's whoever's playing well, he's a fan of which I respect, I respect his positiv. But he's not a in the trenches ride a die guy like he is.
Keith Yandle
Now ever since he shaved that eight pack. Hey, unless he has you, I get the symbol. He's part of the core six now. He's got the six pack. He's. It's Illuminati. It's Illuminati. It's all getting connected. He's gonna, he's gonna put the names of each of the core six in, in each ab and he's gonna add himself to the bottom left one because it's the fattest, fattest app that he has on his body.
Paul Bissonnette
Oh, yeah.
Ryan Whitney
I just, I just wonder, did you see the clip? I don't know if it was when they beat the Bruins, the Bruins record breaking season, or last year when he's. I think it was the first year when they were down 31 to the Bruins and Maurice is on the bench and he's like, listen up, motherfuckers. Did you see this clip?
Keith Yandle
Yes.
Ryan Whitney
He's like, stop trying to be cute and, and bang their defensemen and wear them down for game seven. So it had to be that first year. That is exactly what's happened. And Keith brought up that they go down two zero. Yes. You're going home. The panic is way less, the pressure is way less because you've won the cup and you're in Florida, not in this, you know, city full of losers. I love Toronto, people. I mean, as, as a, as a fan base, they have just worn them down. And what's crazy is they were up three to one in game three, in, over in. And then went to overtime in the third period. They're up three to one. Like the fact it can switch this quick in the playoffs is that shows how crazy this game Is. And that actually speaks to you, Biz, being positive. Because why can't it switch back the other way? I just think Florida is too dominant. They're too physical. They're too in your face to allow that to happen and going home. Yance, are you banging the drum again?
Paul Bissonnette
Now you know why I'm a team player. It's somebody else's turn. You can't score goals every night. You gotta. You look at the Florida Panthers roster. They got about 10 guys with eight or so points. Everyone's kind of in the same, you know, area of, you know, points and contribute. Contribute. Yeah, good word. But, you know, they're all right there and I'm trying to take a p. I'm trying to take a page out of their book and hand it over to somebody else. Let them do what they do and. And go out there for game six and get a huge win. But Biz, I honestly think the only chance you have of winning this game is if somehow you can get Oldie an Ambassador's jacket.
Keith Yandle
I. I kept the Ambassador's jacket. I wanted to. To divvy up the luck charm. I'm going to have that on the broadcast. But going back to what Florida's been able to do, they obviously flipped the switch in that second period in game three, like you're talking about Whit, it was 3:1 that they allow that 3:2 goal. That was my frustration with the Matthews Marner shift. That where they went over the boards. Like, I had my moment where I'm still going to be positive and root for this team and believe in this team. But if Mitch Marner wants to play hockey the way that he played on that shift and just like he did in games four and five, like, they can't win because he's making so much of the money. That's the point that I've been trying to bring up for the past four, four or five years. And I thought that with Chief coming in and, you know, different systems and, you know, different habits out there on the ice, that maybe he would have changed his ways a little bit. And me venting my frustration for Mitch Marner and a. Listen, am. Am I. Am I happy with the performance from Matthews? Obviously not. We need more from him. Like in game five, like, down low, lost the battle. Clearly not looking like himself. I don't think that his goals have translated to playoff hockey because I think he lacks going to the dirty areas. Like, we talk about it all the time with OVI and. And like, yeah, he used to sit in his spot at the tops of the circles and fucking Whale away. And that's how he scored a lot of his goals. But as his career has progressed, he's obviously learned that he has to go closer to the blue paint and do other things in order to find the back of the net, including take punishment. Now, it might come out after playoffs that he's injured. I don't know to what severity. But at the end of the day, Whitney, and you guys know like playoffs is over and I would say 95% of the guys in the locker room are banged up to some degree. So I would imagine when, I mean, when, when, when Florida won their Stanley cup, look at the laundry list of injuries that Matthew Tkachuk had, right? So I do think that right now they have to look within and find that dog in them that they've never had before. And at a certain point you have to find that some may say, ah, you're born with that. Because if you look across the way, the players and the personnel that the Florida Panthers have, I feel like a lot of those guys, it was instilled in them from a young age. But my, my positivity for the Leafs in what they're going to be able to do in game six is not taken away from what Florida has done and flip the script like that Game 5 performance. And I tend to agree with Chief Craig Barube. I don't know if we're going to play the, the, the post game clip about. He didn't necessarily think that Florida came harder. I can agree with that. They played such an intelligent road game. They won every 50, 50 battle. They stayed in the right positioning. They didn't cheat the game just like from the puck drop of the series. They, they've invested in it. They've continued to hit the fucking D again and again and again and inflict punishment. Exactly like the clip that you referenced when you were talking about Florida a few years ago. Oh, you want to play cute? Fuck that. Invest put their fucking D through the end wall and slowly but surely they've taken over the series. So Leafs need to take a fucking page out of their book, start finishing some fucking hits or at least more of them and get fucking win in hockey. Here's Chief talking about it after the game.
Ryan Whitney
The guys are talking about resetting in.
Keith Yandle
The next 40 hours or so, whatever it is. Yeah, how do you do that if you have a fairly good idea that the Panthers are going to come just as hard as they did just now? Well, I don't think they came any harder Than they have. To be honest with you. I think we let them come tonight. Well, you know, I mean, we stood around and watched. You can't do that. So, you know, we responded in the past, you know, and I expect a response from our team, and we, you know, we'll talk about things and, you know, make some adjustments that are needed. But it's more of a mindset for me going into this game six than anything else. It's not X's and O's. We know what they're doing, and they played a simple game tonight, and they were excellent at it. Very good. I mean, they.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
They.
Keith Yandle
They did exactly what they needed to do. And up to this point tonight, you know, it's been a. It's been a good series, and tonight was a. It was a tough game.
Ryan Whitney
Biz.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
What.
Ryan Whitney
What if I'm a Leafs fan, what upsets me? Obviously, the entire Game 5 disaster. But the first they. They were turning it on and they were all over him. And Ekblad gets that goal. Unreal shot. But you get out of the first period, one nothing. No, no problem. Like, we didn't have our best.
Keith Yandle
So pleased with that. The fact that we got out of that only down one nothing. Wolf stunted his head. And just like the game prior where they were only down one nothing after taking four minors in the first period. Manageable, manageable. Like just showing the next 40.
Ryan Whitney
No doubt. And then they come out okay, and Lawton, brutal bounce. I mean, he. He's. He's trying to block a shot, hits his stick. Like, I. I'm sure there's fans that don't really get the game that kind of blame him for that, but that's just total shitlock. We've seen at least 10 goals in the playoffs go off the, you know, players on the other team. But after that goal, two nothing. And maybe part of it is we haven't scored on Bob in four periods. Now we're now down two nothing, which means we need three against them. Yeah, that's all stuff that could pop into your head. But, buddy, that it was. It. It was over. The body language, the. The. The.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
The.
Ryan Whitney
The lack of effort. Like two nothing. Dude, two nothing's not insurmountable anymore.
Keith Yandle
Did you see. Did you see how they scored the third one? Yeah, like that to me. Just like in game three, when you get thrown over the boards and you need to get the momentum back and stop the bleeding. What did Mitch Marner do? People think I'm picking on him, bro. Have you not.
Ryan Whitney
I want to ask you something.
Keith Yandle
Have you not watched him play playoff hockey? When it gets hard? It's fucking insane to me. It's insane to me that someone's going to pay him $13 million. It's insane to me. I don't give a, like, I don't genuinely give a fuck about your hundred point regular season. Like, congrats, Great milestone. He'd hit 99 points twice. But, buddy, like, that's how you're going to show up when your team needs you the most. Like, how can you fucking, how can you walk around thinking that you are worth that much money? It's crazy. It's crazy to me. People think that he deserves a Selkie trophy. Reinhart makes $9 million. You ever watch Reinhardt play hockey? It's, it's incredible. It's.
Ryan Whitney
He made the dish. He made the dish to Boquist on that goal.
Keith Yandle
It's fucking insane to me. So I'll throw up. Was that what you were going to ask about?
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, and I was. What I was going to ask was. There seems to be part of the fan base that, that is, like, people pick on Marner. People pick on Marner. And yeah, Matthews definitely deserves more blame. I think this year, injuries are injuries. Like, if it comes out, the guy needs fucking wrist surgery or whatever it is. Yeah, you get it. But I, the people who really sit there and defend Marner over and over, I, I, I'm wondering, like, what are you watching? Like, what do you see that in your mind? People aren't bringing up that this is unfair because I, I don't know, like, I see a play like that and then I see a coach like Barubi who's got to be like, I can't play this guy. I can't play him. I have to play him because he's, you know, one of our best offensive players. But if every time the moment gets big, you wilt and you throw the puck away and you don't play hard and you don't get inside guys, like, how do I keep putting you over the boards? Like Nylander. Nylander is the one. Talk about a guy who's cool, calm, and collected. He gives a fuck. He was, he was the only player I saw that. And nice. And nice is like, at least trying to forecheck. But when you're four checking alone, like, what? Nothing's gonna happen. It's five man units. That's what Florida does. The forwards go in, they physical, the deep pinch, the third forward's high. They don't give up. Odd man rushes. You can't do that. If you're Toronto. When you have guys that aren't bought into what you're trying to do, it's, it's literally impossible to win like that.
Keith Yandle
So I agree, buddy. And we've obviously spent a lot of time on the Toronto Maple Leaf so far. The depth.
Ryan Whitney
The Cats are what we know the Cats are.
Keith Yandle
We know what the Cats are. And Yan's. The depth. I think they threw four new guys in in game three or four. I think it was Boquist Greer who's the nail gun. Gavichuk.
Paul Bissonnette
Gad. Gads of it.
Keith Yandle
Gazovich. And then, and then I think it was no sec. And they got goals from each of those guys. So it's just, they're all well oiled machine. The guys that they throw in the lineup who are the fifth liners end up making just as big of an impact as the big boys. Like they just, they come at you in waves. And I think that that's really what Toronto has lacked. I don't know if they've drafted specifically to develop those positions at all over the last, you know, five, six, seven years. And it's noticing like to me, Nick Robertson, hey man, yeah, he's a fast skater and he brings a lot of energy. But like what the fuck is Nick Robertson going to do? He got Reinsert. I thought it was bullshit that fucking Holmberg got taken out. I thought he's been one of their more consistent forwards. That's a bullshit move in my opinion. He needs to be back in. I get that. Camp came in and he was okay, but throw Holmberg on the wing then like why Nick Robertson, what the has he done? He, he can't. I think, I think he scored the, the one and only goal. But like at that point, I don't give a about that. I care about finishing some hits and getting to the net front and being a, an actual pest out there. So it's, it's not good. But, but Mitch Marner, assuming that this is going to be his last playoff round, if they lose with the Toronto Maple Leafs, he has an opportunity to leave his mark on this organization the way that he wants to be remembered. And if he wants to be remembered for game three, fucking one on four, turning it over. No, look, pass behind the back going back the other way. And then that dog shit play that he makes in his own end, not supporting his teammate. Mr. Selke Nominee or should be. Excuse me. And then the behind the back fucking flu, flu play to allow the third goal at home in Game 5. And if that's the shit that you want to be remembered for when you sucked all the money away from the team, by all means, man, blame the, the, the city too hard to play. I'm going to go move on to greener pastures. But at the end of the day, when the hockey gets hard, Marner doesn't.
Ryan Whitney
Biz, you know, see tree living. Sorry, Keith, go ahead.
Paul Bissonnette
No, I was just going to say about the Florida's depth, I wouldn't even say. I mean, obviously they're a deep team and have, you know, players that can contribute. But any other team, when you have to put in a guy to play on your first line, most teams will bring a guy up from the second line or the third line. But with how good Barkov is, they can put anyone on his line. So a guy who hasn't played like Boquist can just come in and play on that line and he's going to be effective, which I think all the credit goes to Barkey with. Just the way he can make players better. You ask any guy who's ever played with him. Like he's, he's put so many people on the map. He's extended guys careers like he played with Yogs when yogs couldn't even skate. He extended his career what he did for Hu, like Hubert overhead you just. Any guy whoever plays with him just shines. So I think he deserves a lot of that credit because you don't have to, you know, jumble up all the other lines. You can just put whoever you want with him. You could put me or you out there with him right now and that line would still be effective just because the way he can carry it and, and you know, be good offensively and defensively. So a lot of credit goes to him with that and obviously with Maurice knowing that and not having to, you know, move guys up a line, get them away from, you know, because if they have to split up that third line, which I think has been the best line all series, most teams would have had to do that. Put Marchie on, on the first line, then you're messing up two lines. So I think the way Maurice handles his, his lines and the players is unbelievable. They're getting contributions from everyone. So yeah, it's a fun series. It's fun, fun watching them the way that like they just impose their will on them like the four check and like you were talking about with Robertson. It's every guy, man, every guy is finishing checks. Every guy's given it 100%. They're not trying to make these crazy whole plays. They make plays when they're there to be had, but they're not just, you know, out there to try to make something happen when it's not, because they know it's playoff hockey and one little mistake can cost it. And they did that the first two games. Sorry.
Ryan Whitney
They did. And, dude, I mean, I went to the finals as a. As a. Not as a. As a final. As a fifth six defenseman on a finals team. We didn't win. But it is hard, dude. It is so hard to play hockey this time of year. And there's some guys who just have it in them, and then there's some guys who don't. And that's why I bring up tree living. Because he knew we can't win with Mitch Marner. We can't win the Stanley Cup. We can light up the regular season. And that's why he went out and he had a deal in place for Mikko Rontino. He knew. And Marner has every right in the world to use his contract to block that, but he knew. And that's why it's like, fans can't be that shocked when the GM come trade deadline is like, there's just no chance that we can win. Win with this group. We need somebody who's done it. We need somebody who's big and strong and hard on the puck when the hockey gets so goddamn difficult that some people just can't handle it. And so you're witnessing that right now. Now biz. Yes. It's not over. If I'm a Leafs fan, I'm trying to remain positive. I get where the people are coming from that are throwing jerseys. I wouldn't throw a jersey. But, buddy, you paid for the jersey. You do whatever you want with it. All I want to see tonight is some fucking fight, man. Some fight. Even if you go down one, nothing, you cannot wilt. Now, if they lose this game, in the end, it doesn't matter. They lost in six. But if they lose this game, three, two, and it's an incredible effort. It's at least then it's like, that's all I'm asking for jam in them. Yeah.
Keith Yandle
That's all you're asking for.
Ryan Whitney
That's all fans want, man. That's why fans got on me everywhere I went. Because there was many nights that it looked like this guy doesn't care. I did. I was just soft and I didn't have what it took to play at a high level in when the going got tough. I didn't block Shots. I didn't do things that these players who are on winning teams always are doing playing injured. But I get why fans are frustrated, but it. They just want effort. They just want you to be at least looking like you care. And that's the thing with the Leafs is last year, dude, they're. They're down, they're down 3:1. They get to overtime at game seven. They cared. They were one shot away. But this team, you go up two nothing and you have a great first period on the road. Game three. And then since then, I literally don't know what team we're watching. So how does that happen? And as a fan base, you're wondering the same thing. Like, I love these guys and they're not showing me. So I don't blame them being upset. Where's Barkley? I want to talk to Chuck Biz.
Paul Bissonnette
I was, I was talking to.
Keith Yandle
Can you tell people who old he is, by the way, who were sending in how you met him for those of like, people are watching right now who don't know who Aldi is and why he's going to bring the Leafs back a game seven victory at home.
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah, I'm not going to say because I don't want him to win.
Keith Yandle
You're not going to talk.
Ryan Whitney
I'm going to say then no.
Keith Yandle
Okay, you want to talk about him.
Ryan Whitney
Is Oldie is Rick Nash's best friend. And Keith first met him before a playoff game, I believe for the Rangers. He came bombing into the locker room. Was he naked? Was he naked dancing?
Paul Bissonnette
No, he had like, like spandex with like, you know, is no shirt on, painted chest, painted back face paint, bedazzled hat. Mind you, his wife was in labor.
Keith Yandle
So he skipped the birth of his kid to get the boys going. That's the type of morale and sacrifice that the Toronto Maple Leafs need, folks. That's why it's coming back for Game 7. That's why I sent Oldie down to Sunrise with my lucky yellow shirt. We're bringing it home. As negative as the conversation turned after my positive beginning. This one's coming back to Toronto, folks. It's coming back.
Paul Bissonnette
I'm going to ask him, but I'm going to ask you first and you have a chance to tell the truth. Did you send him first class?
Keith Yandle
I didn't book his flight. I just sent it to Jeff to take care of. I don't know.
Ryan Whitney
I don't even think he would want first class. Keith.
Keith Yandle
I think I put him in a crate underneath the plane.
Ryan Whitney
Also, Biz, we Put him in a.
Keith Yandle
Cargo plane with, in a cage. That's the type of FedEx.
Ryan Whitney
It was in a package on a FedEx plane. There's a chance that like 50, 50, he shows up painted head to toe in Panthers colors. Like he, he could just, he could meet somebody at Lauderdale, in Lauderdale and be like, I actually, I love this, I love this fan base. I'm, I'm going to get Panthers.
Keith Yandle
I don't think he would turn on the Leafs like that. I don't think so, unless Yan's done something very diabolical. He also has this like loose skin right here on each side of his body and he calls it the pocket pussy and it kind of like hangs out of his jean short. So I don't, I'm not sure what he's going to be wearing tonight, but it's definitely an interesting look. The video that he posted where you could see his pocket pussy the most is the most viewed video he has. So people are like, are obsessed with it. So maybe, just maybe we can get him on the glass for warmup and the Florida's end and distract them enough with the pocket pussy to then maybe throw Bobrovsky off so he looks more like games one and two. I don't know what he's got planned for Leaf Land, but at the end of the day he's going to bring it home. And I'm so happy that he's on our side. My life coach, oldie. And before we bring on Chuck, was there anything else we should talk about? Panther or Leaf related? I mean, Kyprios has been on Marner for a while now. He had some interesting comments. I don't know if we have the video clip that we want to post of that Jay Rose Hill, who will be getting on the podcast next week, at least that's the plan. He's been very critical of Mitch and a few of the boys, but it, it's, it's ugly in Leafland right now and people want blood. But I think that at the end of the day, calmer heads prevail. Remember, calm, cool. Collect it, bring it home.
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R.A. Mike Grinelli
Hey, let me tell you something, man. I'm so excited about today. Shout out to OV Oveskin. Great year. Breaking the record. I watched it. So I was at a sports bar last night. Cause I had to watch two games. I'm gonna do the same thing tonight, I might add. Shout out to ovi. What a great year. Breaking the great ones record. And shout out to the Denver Nuggets. We got a game seven coming up Sunday. Man, I can't believe it. And tonight I gotta go out eight. Eight. Biz, relax, man.
Keith Yandle
I'm relaxed.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
We're gonna win tonight. We're going back to Toronto for Game 7. I'm not sure what. I'm not sure what happened the other night. That was just bad, bad, bad, bad. But we're gonna win game six tonight. My boy Austin Matthews gonna score. It's going to be a blowout, too. Gonna be a blowout.
Keith Yandle
Whoa.
Ryan Whitney
What you smoking, Chuck?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
You know, I. I haven't been smoking. But they're gonna win tonight. I can't wait to watch the game like so. Tonight is a big night. If you like sports, you got game six tonight. And you got game six tonight in New York, Boston. Tonight is a big night. I cannot wait to go out. I'm gonna have a few cocktails, quite a few, I might add. But I'm going to a sports bar tonight so I can watch both games. This is a big night, brother. It's a big night. I can't wait. If you like sports, if you really like sports, tonight is a big night. That game, Florida, Toronto, Boston, New York, it doesn't get any better. I cannot wait for the night. I'm not going to lie. Last night was fun. Tonight is magnificent.
Keith Yandle
Chuck, you said it's going to be a 41 or 4 final. And what makes you believe that they're going to bounce back like that and bring it back to Toronto?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
You know, Toronto is my favorite city in the world. That I'm not sure. What happened the other night, that was. That was a bad, bad thing. But you're going to find out a lot about your people. This ain't got nothing to do with the game of hockey. Tonight is about. Yo, this is the most important game. In fairness, it's probably the most. Like I say, I was listening to y' all a little bit earlier we don't have to win the game, but we got to make this like a real game. We got to, like, this is the most important game in probably everybody's life. Because if you don't compete tonight, if you do not compete tonight, this says a lot about your competitive balance in your life. Like, yeah, we can lose, we can lose. They might lose. But this is all about, you know what, let's let people know we were in the building. So I think it's a big night for all the guys on the Leafs. I really do. I truly mean that. Like, I always tell guys we don't have to win, but we have to let people know we actually gave a. About our thing. I mean, necessarily.
Paul Bissonnette
Chuck, I got like, you look at a game like this and like you said, you these. It's a career defining game for some guys and in wit, touched on it earlier. Some guys are born with that dog in them and some guys aren't. If you're not one of those guys, which it kind of looks. And I love Mitch Marner, but his playoff performance, it doesn't really look like he has that dog. Do you think it's something as an athlete that you can just turn on like that and you're like, hey, you know what? It's game six. I gotta put. I gotta bring it tonight and I gotta be that dog. Even though you're not born with that in your DNA.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Well, number one, that's a great question. Listen, like, we have this conversation all the time. I said the difference between Michael, LeBron and Kobe, first of all, they're three of the greatest players ever, but LeBron's a nice guy. Nobody ever said that shit about Michael and Kobe. Nobody ever said, man, that Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, they're nice guys. Nobody ever said that shit. Michael and Kobe, they were dangerous. They kill your ass. LeBron's great, great, great, but he's a nice guy. He had to learn to be competitive because the killer instinct is not something like, I've never. Michael is one of my best friends ever. And I got to know Kobe a little bit. They will kill you to win. LeBron, he wants to win. He wants to win. But LeBron, at the end of the day, is a really nice guy. So you can't learn to be a natural born killer, but you can learn to be like, hey, I want you to know I was, I was throwing fists with you. Now you might kick my ass, but I want you to know you've been in a fight. So as far as Mitch and those Guys, like I say, they don't have to win, but the Panthers need to know, like, yeah, we can't take these guys for granted. We need them to know they've been in a damn dog fight. So I guess I'm not sure I want to answer your question honestly. I don't think everybody's born a natural born killer, but everybody has a situation where like, hey, you gonna kick my ass? But I want you to know you've been in a fight. Yeah, I need. I need you to know. Yeah, I don't. I'm not sure I can beat you, but I'm gonna. As we say where I'm from, I'm going to try your ass. I'm going to try you. So that's really the game tonight. And the reason that's really important tonight, because of that dud in game five. I'm not. Like, I was sitting there watching that game because we were on, and Biz knows we always have hockey and basketball on, and I'm sitting there watching that game. I'm like, damn, that can't happen under any circumstances. You need somebody to know, like, damn, we're in a real fight right here. And that's all I tell people. That's all I ask of my athletes. That's all I ask. Listen, hey, everybody wants to win the championship, but I. I can say this about myself. I ain't never quit. I ain't never quit.
Ryan Whitney
Did you ever have a moment where you had to call out a teammate, like. Because that's what you wonder about the Leafs. Is there anyone in that room, not the coaches, players, that is telling guys, like, wake the fuck up. Personally, did you have to get guys going occasionally? Or was that something that maybe didn't happen in your locker rooms?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
No, no, no, no. That. That's part of being a leader. Like, hey, we ain't got time for no sensitivity. We ain't got no time for bs. Like, that is. So I'll tell you this. So we went away for a week before the playoffs just to get ready, so. And he. He actually just passed away. Oliver Miller, rest in peace. Great dude. Great dude. We're gonna miss him. So we go away for training camp for a week, because back in the day, you used to get a buy if you had the best record. So we go to Prescott, Arizona, and all of us screwing around. This is my first year in Phoenix. I said, oliver, I said, yo, quit screwing around. We're going to the finals and we're going to play the Bulls. I says, I think I'M the best player in the world. We're. I says, I need you to focus. And he gives me a bunch of shit and we end up fighting. And I see, yo, man, I apologize for punching you. And I was in the wrong. True story. I said I was in. I said, yo, man, I came to Phoenix to win the championship. I don't have time for BS right now. And you are screwing around. We came here a week. We got a week to get ready for the playoffs, and he was screwing around, and I ended up punching him. And I want to make it clear I was 100% wrong. He just passed away like a month ago. But I was like, part of being a leader. You have to call people out. You have to call people out. And, you know, he. He was a great kid, but I was like, yo, man, this is my first time. I got a team good enough to get to the finals. So to answer your original question, like, I said, yo, man, to be a leader, you gotta do it. You gotta do it plain and simple.
Paul Bissonnette
But, but for, for them and outside looking in, obviously they're. They're big dogs. You know, the guys who are getting paid the most, they don't play with that edge that you have to play with in playoffs, right? So for my question, it's like, who's calling them out in the locker room? Because when you're. And it happens in every sport, especially in a. In a market like Toronto, where these guys, they're looked at like they're gods, right? So my question is, who in that locker room is going to call them out? And obviously you're a superstar player and, you know, the best player on that team and, you know, one of the best to ever do it. But it's, I think, in that crew, it's got to come from a third, fourth line guy. But are those guys gonna, you know, take that well? Are they gonna listen to it?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
You know, you know, number one, you're 100 correct. What I. What, what, what, what? I would love to have seen the other night, one of those guys, remember when Messier came out, like, yeah, we're gonna go and we're gonna win this game and we're gonna win the series. I would have loved. Now you're gonna look like a total fucking idiot if it doesn't work. Okay, let's get that out the way. What I would have loved for one of their stars to come out and says, hey, guys, I apologize for what happened tonight. That's not Toronto. That's not the leaf hockey. But we're gonna go down to Sunrise and we're gonna win game six. I'll give you an example. So we're the number one seed in the east, in the west, excuse me. We get shocked at home in game one and game two. It would have probably been one of the biggest chokes in NBA history. We lose the first two games at home, and I'm devastated. This is my first year in Phoenix. I said, hey, we're going to the Phoenix. We're going to play the Bulls for the championship. So we lose the first two games, Lakers shock us. And I'm sitting in the locker room and I'm like, I don't even know what to say to the guys. And so Paul Westfall, rest in peace, does a press conference. He says, guys get a Lakers their flowers, they won the game, but we're gonna go and win the next three games. I don't even know he's saying this. And obviously, me being who I am, I got 25 reporters rushing toward me and I'm trying to figure out how to spin this. I'm not gonna lie because I'm in shock a little bit. The guy says, hey, Paul Westfall said, you guys are gonna go to la, win the next two games, then y' all gonna come home and win the game, and people gonna say what a great series it was. And like, I say my head, like, I'm trying to figure out how to spin this to the press. They run toward me. Everybody says, I says, coach is right. We're gonna go to LA. We're down 2 0, we're gonna win the next two, we're gonna come home and winning in five, and people are gonna say what a great series it was. I wish the other night, somebody on the Maple Leaf shot, I said, yeah, tonight was a bad night. Tonight was a really bad night. We should never lose a game. Five zips, because it really was. They scored that late goal, which I don't even count that, but we're going to go down to Florida, we're going to win, we're going to come back and win. I would have like, like I say now, you could look like a fool. I want to make that perfectly clear.
Keith Yandle
Well, they couldn't look any dumber than they look like right now, Chuck.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
I know, but that's my point. I wish one of the leaders would have said that, say, hey, you know what? I, I, I, I, I, I apologize for what just happened, but we're going to go down to Florida and win a game and we're coming back and we're going to win in seven. I would have loved for one of those guys to say that instead of being. Because I saw the interviews after the game. I saw it with the coach. Like, they were defeated at that moment. But, hey, man, the series is not over. It's not over at all.
Keith Yandle
Chuck. I was just going to kind of switch gears here, away from just Toronto and Florida specifically. Like, you've obviously been a huge advocate of hockey. Like, you've been very vocal about it. You follow the playoffs religiously. What is it about hockey that Oilers.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Hey, I told you the Edmonton Oilers were going to win the Stanley Cup. I actually had them playing the Maple Leafs, but the Oilers are going to win the Cup. But to answer your question, hey, he's the Oilers guy. Hey, I'll say this biz, I admire and respect hockey players. Let me tell you why they don't have all the bullshit that goes on in the NBA. Those guys are committed to winning the Stanley cup, which it should be like, if you play sports. If you play sports, your only objective is to be to win. That's all that matters. I don't care who makes. So let me tell you a story. So my first year in Phoenix, we only wanted to win the championship.
Paul Bissonnette
I.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Took down. I did. I said, guys, we're gonna go to the championship, and we're gonna play the Bulls. And they're like, how you know that? I said, because I'm the best player in the world. Michael Jordan's great, but I just needed some help. I said, I. I think I'm better than Michael Jordan. Whichever great players would think he's just as good as everybody in the world. I says, I think I'm the best fucking player in the world. And I just needed some help. I got out of a shithole in Philly. I just needed some help. I said, we're going to play the Bulls for the championship. I said, I'm the best player in the world. And I said, we're going to the finals. And obviously, we got there and the Bulls beat us, you know? And it was actually interesting because I remember going home and talking to my daughter after game two because I let us down in game one because the moment was too big for my team in game one. And they cracked under pressure, and I didn't lead. But, okay, so that's on me. I take responsibility. But in game two, I was like, nah, y' all better jump on my damn back. We're going to win game two. So I had, like, 42, something like that. Then Michael had, like, 52. And I was like. I remember going home and my daughter was crying. She said, dad, you told me y' all were gonna win. And I remember telling her, I says, I gotta be honest with you. That guy's better at basketball than me. I says, I'm not giving up. But I said, I've never said somebody was better than basketball than me, because obviously it's a team game. But I said, he is. Actually, I played as well as I could in Game 2, and he played better. And I was like, my daughter's name is Christiana. I said, christiana, I've never told you this before. I said, larry Bird's great, Magic Johnson's great. Karl Malone's great. Patrick Ewing's great. But I says, me and Patrick didn't have any help, but Bird had Mikhail and Paris and Dennis Johnson. And I said, Magic had Kareem, James Worthy, Byron Scott, all those guys. I said, that's the difference. But when I got a chance to play against Michael Mano Amano, like, I say, I played as well as I could. I had, like, 40, 18, but he had, like, 50. Something eight. And like, I said, damn, but we. We. I was trying to console my daughter. I said, damn, there's somebody better at basketball than me. Because I. Because I had willed our team. Because even game seven against Seattle, I had 45, 25. Like, I'm like, no, we're not going to lose tonight. I never had 45 and 25 in a game before. But I said, if I got one game to win, I'm gonna wheel us. So in game seven against Seattle, you get to the finals, I had 45, 25, something like that. But when I played against Michael in game two, I was like, we're not going to lose tonight. We can't lose the first two games at home. But so, man, you. At some point, you got to find a way. You got to just find a way. Like, if I'm the leash tonight, I'm coming out, I'm punching somebody in the face. I am Verhegy Tkachuk Barkov. I'm gonna do something uncharacteristic to mess this thing up, because what we're doing is not working. What we're doing is not working. If I'm a leader, Tavares got to do something. Like, you know what? I got to set the tone. Like, okay, give an example. Like in the Four nations thing, when they just drop the gloves in the first couple minutes, you. You gotta do something. You gotta do something, because your other Tactics are not working. I'm telling you man, I cannot wait to watch the game tonight. Like I said, I can't wait to watch. I got to go to a sports bar because I want to watch the hockey and I want to watch the basketball because there's going to be so much pressure on the Knicks tonight because if the Knicks do not win tonight, they're not going to win damn game seven. And I feel the same way, I'll be honest with you, I feel the same way about the Panthers. They got to win that series tonight because they're not going to win Game 7 in Toronto.
Keith Yandle
That's what I'm saying.
Ryan Whitney
Oh yeah. The thought of beating Toronto in Game 7, that's impossible.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
No, I'm telling you, if they don't.
Keith Yandle
I'm.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
I think like I say, I, I said the same thing on tell you if the Knicks do not win tonight, they're not going to win game seven in Boston. And I feel 100 the same way if the leagues do not win tonight. Excuse me, if the Panthers don't win tonight, they're not gonna like there will be so much momentum and pressure on them going back to Toronto.
Keith Yandle
So that great Chuck.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Yeah, I agree with you, man.
Ryan Whitney
Don't listen, they could be win tonight the Leafs and be up five nothing in the third period of game seven and they're losing.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
You understand that? Because you got an all his hat on. Relax, brother, relax. Okay? Hey, relax you guys before that was so exciting the other night that was so exciting.
Ryan Whitney
I saw you celebrate. I saw you celebrate when Kaepernick put that one in to end the series.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
So, so I always have hockey and like I say the reason I admire hockey, which was your original question, man, they don't have the, that goes on in the NBA. They don't have super teams, they don't have guys low managing. They just want to win the Stanley cup. That's the way. And listen, every time I say this shit all these on TV get mad because they think you're the old get off my long guy. The only thing should matter is trying to win. In my day, we didn't worry about who was making the most money. We didn't worry about who was playing. I think my original point I want to make so my first year in Phoenix, we like I get the guys together. I said guys, we're going to the finals. We're going to play the Bulls. They're like, how you know that? I said because I'm the best fucking player in the world. Michael Jordan's great. I'm going to give him his flock, but I think I'm just as good now. I got you guys. We're going to play the Bulls for the championship in my first year in Phoenix. Everything goes great. All we care about is winning. It was pretty cool and amazing. And I remember the next year we lost to the Bulls. Obviously, the next year I remember I'm sitting down with the owner. I says, I'm not sure we're going to make it to the finals again. He's like, why do you say that? We got one of the best teams in embryo. I said, yeah, but these guys, now, they're different because I'm in a locker room. I said, well, one guy is complaining like, well, what's the name? Makes more money than me. One guy's complaining like, I should be starting. I should be playing more. If you're gonna win, you can't worry about how much money other guys are making. You can't worry about playing time. You can't worry about who's starting. And I remember telling the owner that. I says, the team is different because with success, everything changes. It's like, you know, I should be starting. Well, dude, you came off the bench. You're playing great. Shut the fuck up. Then you got like, you know, I should be making more money than this guy. I said, well, first of all, let's get one thing straight. Kevin Johnson and Dan Marley are making more money than me. I don't complain. I just want to win the championship. That's all I care about. But when guys started complaining about who's making more money, who's not playing, you're never gonna win. Because if you're gonna win, you have to be all in. And that's the thing I admire and respect about hockey players. You never hear them complain about load management. You never hear them complain about playing time. So that's why I love hockey. To be honest with you guys, I love that.
Keith Yandle
Quick, quick side note, I was gonna ask you, you mentioned MJ a couple times in his killer mentality. He's gonna be joining NBC, I believe. I read like he's gonna be doing some. Some television. Were. And like, how much do you think he's actually going to be doing the TV thing?
Paul Bissonnette
I'm more surprised that you said you read.
Keith Yandle
Yeah, Chuck, don't laugh at this guy.
Ryan Whitney
Don't, don't.
Keith Yandle
Don't do me dirty like that.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Hey, Biz. I'm with you, brother. I'm with you, Biz. Ain't nobody can come between us let's get that out the way. Let's get that out the way. So I think I have no idea what Michael's going to do. I don't think he's going to do a lot. Well, first of all, I know he's not. I know he's not going to do a lot. I. I was 100% shocked, but I don't think he's going to do a lot, period. I really don't. Yeah. All right. Yeah.
Paul Bissonnette
It's because the grove shut down for eight months. He's got nothing to do.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Well, he's probably trying to fix the grove because, you know, he probably. He made the grove where you have to be able to hit the ball left or right. He's trying to. Trying to fix the fairways so people who play a hook can play there.
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
You know, remember, like, I got a lot of golf friends, obviously, and they're like every Jack Nicklaus golf course is. He makes it where you can hit the ball left or right. And if you're a hooker, he puts the trees so far over you can't play your hook. So Michael's probably at the grove. If it's closed down, he's probably trying to make it even more left to right, golf course.
Paul Bissonnette
Love it.
Ryan Whitney
Chuck, thank you so much. I don't know. Do you have anything else for this legend?
Keith Yandle
Yeah, I mean, not really. I was just kind of wondering. Anything else hockey wise, you've noticed? I mean, Carolina Hurricanes. Carolina Hurricanes shutting teams down defensively. You got Oilers who are. Who surprised the Vegas Gold Knights. What do you make of the Dallas Winnipeg series? Like, what's catching your eye, hockey wise, outside of McDavid and McJesus and the Oilers.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
So obviously I picked the Oilers to win the Stanley Cup. You know, we did a really nice thing with Liam. I actually had Toronto winning this series, to be honest with you, my board.
Ryan Whitney
You still do somehow?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
No, but I still got the war. Orleans winning the Stanley Cup. But I will tell you this. If you go back and look at this Toronto, Florida series and biz was in the other night, I says, man, if the Panthers win this series, it's all about Bob. Because if you go back and look, there was probably five to seven chances that Toronto, in Games 3 and 4, in Games 3 and 4, when Nylander got a breakaway, that could have changed the series, made it 3:1 in either game, 3 or 4. But Bob was so freaking amazing. And he obviously. He's been amazing again. He's been amazing again. But I thought he's the Reason Toronto is down in this series, but I still feel good about my pick. Because, you know these idiots over here in the United States trying to impose terrorists. Terrorists. On Canada. That's why the cup is going back. The cup is going back.
Keith Yandle
That's what I'm saying.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Because.
Keith Yandle
That's what I'm saying.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Because of all the tariffs. The tariff bullshit is BS. You're not going to be the 51st state. You're not going to be THE 51st state. But let me tell you something. The cup is going back to Canada, plain and simple. Go allers.
Keith Yandle
Hey, what the.
Ryan Whitney
Thank you, Chuck. Thank you for coming on the show. Chuck, are you still drunk on the Oilers? Hey, we love you, Biz.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
What's your question?
Keith Yandle
I said, are you still.
Ryan Whitney
Oh, I thought he.
Keith Yandle
Where'd you go?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Hey, Biz, did you ask me, am I still drunk? Yeah. Well, first of all, I got a hangover. If you go ask. Your first question is, am I drunk if I got a hangover? That mean I was drunk yesterday, not today.
Ryan Whitney
And you're getting drunk today, too.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
I got a hangover. I got a hangover. Yeah. Yeah. Because I had an off night, and I went out and got drunk all night, and this the only thing I got. I played golf. So I was on the golf course yesterday. It was a perfect day. I played golf, I smoked cigars, and I got drunk. Then I got drunk last night watching basketball and hockey. And you know what I'm gonna do today? I'm doing the Spin Chiclets, which, y' all guys got an amazing podcast. So then I'm gonna go back to bed. I'm going right back to bed. Then I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna get drunk and watch hockey and basketball again. It's a perfect day.
Paul Bissonnette
You got any draws on right now, Chuck?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
No, I burned all my draws, like, 30 years ago. I never wear underwear.
Keith Yandle
You don't wear underwear, Chuck?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
I never wear. Well, first of all, I'm black. We call them draws, okay? We don't call them underwear. We call them draws. So I burned. About, probably 35 years ago, I had a bonfire in the backyard, and I burned all my draws. So I never wear underwear. So I'm gonna go back to bed for probably an hour or two. Then I'm gonna get up. I think I might go get a massage. I might go get a massage.
Ryan Whitney
Okay?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
And then. And after that, I'm just gonna. I might go hit some golf balls. It's a long day. But then I'm just gonna watch game Six and game six. That's all I'm gonna do today. Absolutely.
Ryan Whitney
What's the drink? Is it tequila on the rocks?
Keith Yandle
Yeah. What do you. What do you drink? What do you suck back? Oh, he's got his own vodka. That's right.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
I got my own vodka.
Keith Yandle
So does win?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I. I keep them here when I do podcasts. Yeah. So I. I'm gonna do a lot of Red Mud vodka. I got a gin too. I got a gin.
Keith Yandle
Are you Ryan Reynolds?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Yeah, I'm trying to be. Well, he sold. He sold his for like $600 million. I would like to do that just for the record. So I'm gonna drink a lot of vodka. At some point I'm gonna go to tequila because I love great tequila. So I'm gonna start out after, I think I say I'm gonna get a massage and I'll probably hit some golf balls, but my whole day is going to revolve around Celtics, Knicks Leafs, Panthers and Chuck.
Keith Yandle
Last question. Who did you play against in the finals your first year in Arizona?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
The Bulls. Michael Jordan. Overrated, Flash in the pan. I never thought Michael was gonna make it. He was a flash in the pan. Yeah. So we. Yeah, we lost to the Bull. We lost to the Bull. We lost to the Bulls in six.
Keith Yandle
You're a.
Ryan Whitney
How many points you have in Game 7 against Seattle?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
45, 45 and 25.
Keith Yandle
I think that's unbelievable.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
You know, you know, you know what's crazy about that? So you talk about being the leader of a team. So one of my good friends is guy named Frank Johnson. So I pulled him aside, we're flying back to Phoenix for Game 7. And I said, hey, what do I need to say to this team to get us ready for game seven? He says, you don't have to say shit. This is a true story. He says, you fucking been telling us all year you're the best player in the world. I need you. He says, all you gotta do that, we're gonna follow you. That goes back. Somebody in that locker room gotta say, hey boys, let's go out here tonight and let's get it done. And that's really important whether it's Nylander, Matthews, Marner, Tavares, one of those guys gotta say, hey guys, all that he got on the board, it don't matter. It don't matter. Cause like you played, you don't played 100 games. Basically. Now we played this team five times. Ain't no nothing he can write on the board. So, Frank, we're flying back I said, frank, I gotta. Because everybody's kind of, you know, on edge. Game seven. And Frank says to me, I said, frank, I need to get these guys up because everybody's got a lot going on. He says, dude, you the leader of the team. I need you to go back there and say, guys, we got this jump on my back. Jump on my back. And he said that to me. It was really cool. And I remember telling the guys, I said, hey, guys, I walk. I walk back to the back of the plane. I said, guys, we're good. Get on my back. We're going to the finals. And so somebody on the Leaf gotta say that. So I told these guys, those guys, relax. Let's have fun. It's a game seven. I'm bringing my A game. Y' all get on my back and we're going to the finals. And I had. Because Frank, what he said was, he says, I need you to play the best game of your life, and we're going to the finals. And I said, what? He said, he says, you ain't got to worry about those guys back there. They're going to follow what you do. He says, they're going to follow what you do. He says, I need you to play the best game of your life, and the rest of these guys going to follow. And somebody on the Maple Leafs got to say, like I say, it can be Nylander, it could be Austin, it could be Tavares, Baldi. Yes.
Ryan Whitney
Gilmore.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
One of those guys got to say, hey, guys, we get paid to play hockey. We got the best job in the world. Y' all get on. And like I say, you can actually lose the game. I mean, I want to make that clear. You can actually lose the game. But it. They need the Panthers to know that these been in a fight.
Keith Yandle
That's what I'm saying.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
They need to know, like, hey, you know what? Y' all beat us in six games, but it was a damn war. And somebody on, I don't know who has the personality to do that. But somebody on Toronto has got to say, guys, let's let these dudes know, because everybody think it's going to be. This is the end of the season tonight. But let me tell you something, it's not. It's not the end of the season. This is another opportunity to do something special. Remember when Messier. When Messier did that thing?
Keith Yandle
No.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Like, they need somebody to step out there like that. Like Mark Messier. Like I said, he's amazing. But when he was playing for the Rangers, he went out there and said, guys, we're good. I'm guaranteeing this gonna happen. And like I say, I don't know if anybody on Toronto has that ability, but somebody needs to do it.
Keith Yandle
Chuck, I'm literally tweeting. I'm literally tweeting it right now.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Yeah, somebody gotta do it, man.
Ryan Whitney
This is doing it.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Yeah.
Paul Bissonnette
Biz who never.
Ryan Whitney
Hey, Charles, thank you so much.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
You got the game tonight.
Keith Yandle
We're doing it, Chuck. I'm gonna be in studio. You should come by if you're. If you're. If you're not getting walked on by a masseuse or. Or working on your liver.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
I'm gonna be getting drunk, watching both games because. Let me taste some. That Celtics Knicks game tonight, you know, the Garden's gonna be going crazy. I cannot. Like. This is. If you like sports, this is a good night. This is a good night.
Ryan Whitney
That's. That's exactly what we needed. Chuck, thank you so much. We appreciate it. Hall of Famer Charles Spark.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Thanks, guys. Be safe.
Ryan Whitney
Have a good one.
Keith Yandle
I love it.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
What a.
Keith Yandle
That was incredible.
Ryan Whitney
Charles is in one. Charles is having a time. He's drinking, he's smoking, he's golfing, he's drinking again, and he sleeps again. He played the bulls in the finals. 45, 25 against Seattle, game seven.
Keith Yandle
Unreal.
Ryan Whitney
And he brought the thunder. He's going back to bed. I think he's going back to bed.
Keith Yandle
I wish he could be in that Leaf's locker room giving him that pep talk. And then. Fucking marner.
Ryan Whitney
Zero.
Paul Bissonnette
They don't have a round mound of rebound on their team, though. You gotta. You gotta have a special player to have a guy like Chuck on your team and show up.
Ryan Whitney
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Keith Yandle
Good for him, dude. He deserves it. He works his bag off, dude. What a legend. I love Chuck. Fuck, is he funny. Dude, he's in the studio all the time. Like, you know, we'll just be chilling there watching the game. He'll be rolling through. Yeah, oil is one, man. 25 grand in my pocket. See McGee's final out there.
Ryan Whitney
Woohoo.
Keith Yandle
And then comes in Shaq Hyman. Those guys love. Those guys are incredible ambassadors of the game, man. They jump by the studio and come do those hits for us. And I. I would say outside of the Leafs, Oilers are for sure the number one chatter in the studio. Well, obviously the Leafs, because I'm in there, but they love McJesus. They love dry Seidel and everything. Oilers right now, because you guys are buzzing. So with that said, we should probably talk about the Edmonton Oilers because I'm sure everybody in the chat is just done with the Leafs chatter until the game starts.
Ryan Whitney
I would love to talk about the Oilers. I would love to basically bring up that we are the exact opposite of the Leafs and what we just witnessed, nobody saw coming. I think both you guys had Vegas. I know murals had Vegas. I know G had Vegas. So as I mentioned, in my spaces, which God damn, it's nice doing spaces after a series win. It's just great to just talk to Oilers fans and. And it's late at night and I'm sitting there and I'm just thinking about this team. And this has been one of the craziest first two rounds in the history of hockey for the Edmonton Oilers. Let's just go back. Let's go back to games one and two against la. Done dead. They come back in game one, they still somehow lose. They get waxed. In game two, we have a great coach. What did he do? He put in a new goalie. Calvin Picker, Stuart Skinner. I mean, you want to talk about hate towards Mitch Marner? This guy was getting railroaded in Edmonton. I was all over him. Everyone was all over him. Picard comes in. Jim Hiller literally might have won us a Stanley Cup. Game three, he challenges the Evander Kane goaltender. Interference. We get a goal. Eight seconds later, we win that game. We're losing in the third period of game four. We somehow come back, we win that game. Then we truck him in. Game 5 in LA. Our first great, truly great played game in the playoffs so far. And then we come back and we finish the job. LA done. New gm. Coach is sticking around. Ken Holland's the new gm. He's keeping Jim Hiller. Thank you, Jim Hiller. I think you brought us our sixth Stanley Cup. We appreciate it, but we moved on to Vegas. And Vegas was the big bad bullies. Vegas was the team who broke our hearts two years ago. What happens? We go in, we dominate game one. We win game one. We look phenomenal. I'm like, holy shit, this is a different team. And we had put not only Pickard in, we had put Klingberg in after game one against la. He has been unbelievable. Nobody saw Klingberg doing this. This guy's been amazing. And then we keep rolling. We keep rolling. We somehow win game two. An amazing overtime victory. We go back home, we lose a heartbreaker, and what happens? Skinner's back in net. And skinner loses again. He's 03. The guy can't get a win. Everyone can't stop stand him. He doesn't get the job done when it really matters. Like the Toronto Maple Leafs. But then what happened, guys? Then what happened? Stuart Skinner decided to say, all right, well, you guys aren't going to score again. Yeah. Vegas. All you big guns, all you Stanley cup champions, all you big defensemen, you're done. There's no more scoring. And we went on to just win two games in a row without giving up a goal. This is the Oilers. This is a team who can't play defense, is a team who's run and gun. They can't win in the Stanley cup playoffs. When the going gets tough. You want to bet? You want to bet? Because we are now witnessing not only coaching genius. Gary. Gary. We got better depth, we got better goaltending. We got better everything. No, you don't. You just lost at five. You just lost at Five. And what did our coaching genius do? Because we have the genius he put in Casperi, Kapadan. Do you guys know how we got Kapanen off of waivers from the Blues? Off of waivers from the Blues. Our two big signings. Our two big signings are in the press box. We got Skinner and Arvidson. They're not even playing. Nothing makes sense with this team. Skinner has come back in, looked phenomenal. Talk about mental toughness. Talk about a guy who doesn't listen to outside noise and believes in himself. Stuart Skinner looked incredible. And not only did he look incredible, the team defense looked incredible. Leon Draisaitl was asked because he's playing with Pod, Colson and Kapanen, literally fourth liners. You talk about Barkov, Keith, you could put Ballquist on his wing. You play anyone with Leon. And Leon said, I don't care about my stats. I want to be the last team standing. And what do we have? We have a leader. The greatest player that I've ever witnessed. Okay. People hate on McDavid. I don't really understand how. I've had discussions with people I'm friends with that can't stand him. They mention he never smiles, he looks miserable. Well, I just love watching. I love watching genius at work. And what did he do after a five game series win in the second round against Vegas? He's asked about team defense and, and how it's improving. He snapped on the reporter. Do we have to?
Keith Yandle
I know.
Ryan Whitney
Do we have the clip?
Keith Yandle
Yeah.
Ryan Whitney
It's running quite a progression over the.
Keith Yandle
Last couple of years even. Have you seen that, the way that.
Ryan Whitney
You guys defend and feel more comfortable defending his crew? I mean, how many times are we going to answer this question really, like honestly, that's frustrating that you keep that.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
We keep talking about this.
Ryan Whitney
We can defend, we can. You know, we've showed that time and time again. You know, come into a tough building and win a one nothing game when it matters most. We can play that way. We can score goals, we can whatever it takes, we can win games. Do you think that's a guy who, who cares that they they've won in the second round and are on to their third conference final in the last four years?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
No.
Ryan Whitney
You think he gives a flying fuck? Do you think that's a guy who's worried about his points and worried about his stats when he's back checking in game five, going 400 miles an hour, lifting the stick of Brett Howden to save a goal and then crashing into the boards, burying his face, coming to the bench and just staring there with blood coming out of his mouth. Do you think this guy's satisfied?
Paul Bissonnette
Think that happened in Leaf Land Wit?
Ryan Whitney
This is a team. No, no. They be with Chuck at the bar. This is a team.
Keith Yandle
To, to be fair, I know what it's like to have been the reporter. When I was asking him about his hot tub over and over where he.
Paul Bissonnette
Finally just was like he was, he was disgusted. Before that guy even got the quote question out, he knew it was coming.
Keith Yandle
So I feel, I. I just want to say I feel for the reporter. I have been wanting to ask dumb questions. So I just wanted to made that be heard. Go ahead, Whit. Sorry.
Ryan Whitney
So this, this season makes absolutely no sense. Everyone's picking them to possibly win the President's Trophy. They're one of the three teams in the, in the discussion. They're in my mind and a lot of people's mind. They're going to win the Pacific Division and nothing was working. It was. It was some solid hockey. It was some brutal hockey. It was inconsistency. It was injuries. It was the expectations going into the playoffs. Like, I don't know, this doesn't feel like last year. And every single guy has turned it up a notch. That's what you need biz. Connor Brown. Oh, Evander Kane comes. How good is Connor Brown? Evander Kane was one of the best Oilers in that series against Vegas. He's showing up in, in Rolls Royces. He's showing up. I don't even know what he's going to show up.
Keith Yandle
Can we pull up the picture? This guy, he is not only showing up in fucking exotic vehicles. He's posting this the minute the series is over. And from my understanding, what I've heard is the guys have really embraced his personality in the locker room, including guys like Connor Brown where you wouldn't think that that would be a natural fit, like a blue collar type player. And then Evander, who, who's flashy and loud and, and you know, himself, right? So the fact that he's came back and made this impact after, even after one game, it felt like he finally got his feet underneath him. It's. It's a remarkable ad. Corey Perry drinking from the fountain of youth. But where it goes back to not only the big guns, but five on five, outside of Connor McDavid and Leon Dry settle, they have 16 goals. That's two more they had of compared to all of last year's run. And they have a ridiculous goal differential with those guys on the ice compared to last Year as well. So the bottom six and those extra added pieces that you're talking about, the guys that nobody knew were even going to be on the roster 12 months ago, have made such an impact on this team. And like you, it's an anomaly. It makes no sense. I would have said after the first two games of playoffs, they're done. McDavid's leaving.
Ryan Whitney
I think you did. I think you did.
Keith Yandle
I. I think that most people watching right now would agree with me, are listening right now, would agree with me that if they lose that first round series, there's probably a possibility that he's out of Edmonton because they hadn't addressed goaltending, which was struggling at the time. The bottom six, look at the back end at home, goes down, you pick up fucking Wallman and Klingberg. Like, did people really think that those were the answers? No, they didn't at the time. But like, Chuck Talked about.
Paul Bissonnette
Game 6.
Ryan Whitney
Game 6, Bulls in the finals, Bulls in the final.
Keith Yandle
Like Chuck talked about, it was the leadership. It was the leadership. And McDavid and Draisaitl said, hop on, boys. I'm taking you to the promised land, baby.
Ryan Whitney
And there's been a lot of discussion about Evan Bouchard, the contract he's going to get. And yes, there are times when you're like, what is this guy doing? But for everyone who's ever dogged them, me being one of them, that was a clinic. A clinic offensively and defensively in the second round. I mean, he was probably the best player on the Oilers. I think Kane was right there. Skinner mean, the final two games of the series. But Evan Bouchard playing like that nurse, keeping it very simple. I don't know if you saw Mike Commodore before game four. He created a Darnell nurse drinking game. I think it was a shot when he went down to one knee, maybe two drinks of a beer when he. When he got caught in the off zone. Guy was great. And Walman, I. I knew Walman was very good in Detroit. Something went on there. He goes to San Jose, had an awesome year. He's been a horse. The fact that they're doing this without Ekholm, though, that is the most shocking part. Because when he went out, I'm like, I don't know. Like, I don't think they can win the Stanley cup without him. I have completely changed my opinion, as every other Oilers fan has, because of the madness around this season. I mean, nobody even brings up Nugent Hopkins. Nobody brings up Hyman. Is. Is Hyman's averaging like Seven hits a game. He's just running around. They put Kapan in the lineup. Game 4. I think he had what could have been three penalties in the first shift, but he said, I'm going to go Chuck style. I'm going to get loaded in the locker room and go out and run Petro through the boards. So I don't. Dallas scares me now. Winnipeg still alive. We'll get to that in a little bit. I think Dallas takes care of that series at home. There's a game, six guys. There's two tonight and then there's one the next night. But it's just amazing to see Edmonton play like this considering after the first two games of the first round. Biz, you were right. They look dead, but they're never dead. And that's the coolest thing about rooting for this team. They have some serious resolve in that locker room. There's no give up, there's no quit. They're led by a complete psychopath in Connor McDavid, which all these great champions were like that. They're crazy. And he's no killers. They're killers. Biz, you're muted, buddy. Can't hear you. Can't hear you. I'll talk over for you. I said he's going to leave Edmonton and go to Toronto. I've been working non stop in the hotel room. McDavid's leaving. Oilers are gonna lose their franchise. Don't know how. I don't know how they continue in the league. That's what Biz was gonna say. And he's muted.
Paul Bissonnette
Oh, I thought that was Biz.
Ryan Whitney
Oh, what's up? Oh, no, he's. I just wanted to say that McDavid's going to Toronto and I'm telling you, I. I'm going back to Welland. I met a girl on Raya and she loves me, so it's cool being me. I'm Biz. And then, you know, sometimes I get this lucky shirt and McDavid's gonna wear it at the press conference when he comes to the leaks.
Paul Bissonnette
I didn't realize that shirt was a short sleeve dress shirt, too. It was like a barber shirt.
Ryan Whitney
No, I cut it off because I wanted to show my tattoos on my arms and then my. Oh, what's up?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Hey, Biz.
Paul Bissonnette
Please don't work. Don't work.
Ryan Whitney
Oh, it was working when I started it. You guys know the Leafs are gonna come back and win this thing. Do you know that pink Whitney vodka is the number one selling vodka in North America?
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Flavored.
Ryan Whitney
Me and Chuck are Going out tomorrow night. Biz is, I'll tell you right now, Biz. Last year he realized the Oilers are for real. And he was wearing a belly cut off shirt all play. Like he knew in the finals this team's, this team's legit. I, I don't know what happens. Oh. Oh, shit. Still broken.
Paul Bissonnette
What is going on with this guy?
Ryan Whitney
I, I think, I think that Chuck might have sent him booze and in the last 20 minutes he, he, he got on his. Or maybe Chuck breathed on him.
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah, seriously. With this series too though. Like, I think Vegas is going to be one of the most disappointing teams in the last few years that I can remember of like the hype going into the playoffs. They weren't great first round. Like they barely got by a Minnesota team that was way less superior than they are. And then this series to lose 41 is crazy to me with you look at their, their, the makeup of their lineup. They're built for playoffs. They have these horses that can come in. Oh, this is back. Hey, Biz.
Keith Yandle
Is it working?
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah.
Ryan Whitney
Hey, what's up, buddy?
Keith Yandle
Okay, that was pretty funny. When you're mocking me, I could see the whole thing.
Ryan Whitney
I wasn't mocking you. I was. That was you.
Paul Bissonnette
That was you.
Keith Yandle
You're a. I was gonna ask. Can we not agree that Matt Murley's team was in fact the Fraud squad and not the LA Kings?
Paul Bissonnette
100%.
Keith Yandle
Oh yeah, he was.
Paul Bissonnette
Shame on me for picking the same team as Merly. Like what am I thinking?
Keith Yandle
And hey, he acts like he's the hockey God and he knows every. Just cuz you hit the, the Brad Marshaw overtime winner. You, you, you and your Fraud squad. He could room with Gary Lawless at the finals when we go, when we go to Toronto for the seven game series. There. Suck on that, Woody.
Ryan Whitney
Now let me address one the, the craziest part about the Oilers. And I don't, I, I gotta be careful with my words here because I don't want this to get clipped. And people are like, you know, Whit wants people to be fighting each other outside Roger's place. But every game we win and then our fans are teeing off on each other in first. It's like we, we have started a movement like Tyler Durden did in Fight Club. Like, first rule about Fight Club, don't talk about Fight Club. First rule about the Oilers, grab a guy in a dry saddle jersey and punch his eyes shut. I, I, I don't love it. I don't want to see concussions and stitches and Injuries in the moss pit post game. But I mean, I don't know how this is going to change.
Keith Yandle
Did you see what they did with the moss pit is, you know how they have like the fence, they made it into an octagon. So it's a, it's a sanctioned UFC event now in the mos pit.
Ryan Whitney
Did you see Oilers jersey on to fight?
Keith Yandle
Yeah. Did you see Stanley cup lady going at it the other night? Holy fuck. She, she could throw some kidney shots, I'll tell you. Holy.
Ryan Whitney
Like our fans are tougher than your team biz. Our fans are willing to die after these games.
Keith Yandle
Well, Rick from Red Deer and Stanley cup lady fought to the death the other night. Rick from Red Deer's done. He's dead. He's done.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Yeah.
Keith Yandle
I'm telling you, it's crazy.
Ryan Whitney
It's like, hey, if tonight, if Leon gets the game winning jersey, anyone in a dry saddle jersey, you could sucker them. It's like, all right, well we keep winning. And, and it has to be a defenseman jersey. Like a Bouchard jersey has to fight the dry side jersey.
Keith Yandle
So the oil, the 50, 50 tickets are picked to who you're matched up against. Oh, they don't even, they don't even give money out anymore. They just give you your partner, they tape your wrist.
Ryan Whitney
So I, I'm just thrilled. It's been, it's been an increasing and getting to watch your team like win like this and continue to move on. It's so exciting. I can't. I think, I think if Dallas does get it done and Winnipeg, what a game last night. I want to get to Carolina next but if Dallas does get it done, I think we're in for an all time seven game Western Conference. We were able to get by him in six last year, but they added a guy named Miko Rontanin that the Leafs wanted. I think we would take care of Winnipeg and five if they somehow came back. I'm not too worried about Winnipeg. Dallas, Edmonton could be a legendary all time series, but proud to be an Oilers fan. They sent me this beautiful lid. They sent me a bunch of stuff, water bottles. I'm going to fill it up with Chuck's vodka after this and get crippled.
Paul Bissonnette
But game six night, phenomenal.
Ryan Whitney
Phenomenal so far. And I think with that we can maybe chat about Carolina biz because.
Keith Yandle
Oh my God, listen, everybody, everybody's been bitching.
Ryan Whitney
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R.A. Mike Grinelli
I gotta go poop.
Ryan Whitney
So, Keith, Carolina fans, congrats to you guys. I'm looking at you guys, an amazing fan base, an incredible home ice advantage. A team that is fast and relentless, that plays just like their coach played when he raised the Stanley cup as your captain in 2006. It's been amazing. But they're a pissed off group and I don't really blame them. I'm confused why they're so pissed off. And the main reason I bring that up is because people are calling them boring. I think they're. I think that series was one of the most boring hockey series I've ever watched. I really like credit to you though. You made it boring. My thing is, why do you care if clowns like me and clowns like biz think that you're boring? If you're winning, it should Almost be something where you're. You're laughing at us, which I think you probably are. But it's like, I don't care how boring. Do you think the 95 New Jersey Devil fan base cared that they were boring? No. They cared that they were drinking with Chuck at the parade and they cared about the Bulls in the finals. But the Carolina Hurricanes, they are, I would say, one of the deeper teams. They're very fast, they're amazing on home ice, but they know to win games. They can't play run and gun hockey. People want to see run and gun hockey. I like that. But the Oilers have won games in a boring way. I don't think Game 5 was boring against Vegas. It was a little more exciting than a Carolina win. One, nothing. But who cares what all of us say? Because you keep on winning. Now, here's the issue. You just made mincemeat of Washington. I mean, they were. They were. They had seven goals in five games. Like, just excellent team defense. You got Svetchnikov with eight goals already. He's been incredible. You have the best defensive defenseman in the NHL. I'd say in Jacob Slavin, you have a team that can win the Stanley Cup. But now you're on to the Terror Dome, and that is the Eastern Conference finals. This is your third trip, I believe, since 2019. You haven't won a game. Now, when people call you boring, I think part of it is that they have the. The thought of you getting swept the past two Eastern Conference finals in their mind, thinking, yeah, you could get through the first two rounds playing that way, but you got to have big guns to continue the magic and continue on to the finals. This team does feel different. Yeah, I know. When they played The Bruins in 19, it was. They were overmatched. I don't think they were as overmatched as the series outcome against the Panthers in 23. The famous Rod Brynamore we weren't swept series when they did in fact lose four in a row. I think that first game of that series, did it not go to five overtimes, four overtimes, remember?
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah, that was the one Kachuk left, right? I think it was. Yeah, it was three or four, right?
Ryan Whitney
No, I think he had two overtime winners in that series. And the other one, he might have left chat. G, help me out here. I. I think this team, though, man, they got. Nikishan came in last night, looked pretty good. They have Jackson Blake as a rookie on the first power play. The kids are water bug. He's an animal. Stankhoven plays their style. Taylor hall looks reborn. Oh, I'm sorry, Ian. Draw. He scored another one with a minute left to go up one. That was when he did the sliding celebration. I believe in Florida. Just an incredible series by the Panthers. I, I think that Carolina is not going to be swept in the conference finals if they play the Leafs somehow, according to Chuck, that they're going to win. I think they take care of them, Florida and them. I don't know if they can beat Florida. Keith. I'm not exactly sure. I'm ranting. I'm going to let you talk here in one sec. I just want Carolina Hurricane fans to stop caring about what anyone says. Who cares. You got to be able to just let everyone else's opinion go in one ear, out the other, like my headphones at the beginning of the show and just say, we win, we win. We shut everyone up. It doesn't care if it's boring. I don't mind if we win one nothing because all we do is win. So I don't know if they're going to be able to get it done. But congrats because you just made Washington look like an AHL team.
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah, they, they, they sure did. And great breakdown for them. I, I agree with you that if they play Toronto, I think they'll make light work of them. If it's Florida, I don't think because what Carolina does, they make teams play the way that they want to play. They make them, you know, play the greasy game, they want to play the heavy game. They almost, they'll take away your skill and make you play like every line is a fourth line. I don't think they could do that to Florida. I think Florida is a little too, you know, well coached and they've been there, done that team that, you know, they've seen pretty much everything in the last three years where they know to just go out and play their game. If for somehow it is the Leafs, I would tell the Leafs try to win these games. Six, five. Like, let's just go play run and gun hockey for a little bit, which they can do mostly in, in, you know, the regular season. They do that. But I don't think it's, I don't think if it's against Florida that they could impose their will like they have on, on Jersey and Washington. They just completely made them play the way that they wanted to and it was just a master class.
Ryan Whitney
Go ahead, go ahead. I was just going to chime in here and you mentioned going 6, 5 with them. I think Freddie Andersen's the biggest X factor in this series. No question. Because if you're going to get to Freddie Anderson when he's healthy, when he's on his game, I actually do think the Canes have a shot at taking down anyone here. The way they're playing, I think they could win the cup. I agree. I really think they could win the cup. But with him, with him, because as we've seen in the past, Freddy gets hurt. So if Freddie gets bumped in, you know, if. If Sam Bennett does that same shitty play did with Stellares there. I don't know. Like, I. You can never say his name. It's so fussed. Dolores, that was Chuck for a second. This is Chuck right here. Stellaris. But yes or no, don't you guys think it kind of comes down to Freddie Anderson? It does. And. And gee, here's the thing. I thought the other night, all right, against Florida, they're just going to kick the shit out of them because, like, Carolina is not the biggest, strongest team. They're quick. But Florida, like, look at what they do. They just wear you down. The series gets long, and you can't continue to take the bumps and the four checks. But I thought Washington would do the same thing to him. I thought Washington before that. I'm like, they're just going to physically dominate them, dude. They couldn't even get shots like you. You're watching these games through two periods. Washington would have, like, 12 shots. It's like, all right, the physicality doesn't matter. So that's kind of where I'm like, fuck, maybe they can slow down Florida, too, and just take away their, like, physical ability and just grind them out down low. I biz, what's up? You hear me?
Keith Yandle
I didn't take a massive shit. Sorry about that, boys.
Ryan Whitney
So we're talking about Carolina. G just. I forgot to mention, G brought up like, they can win the Stanley Cup. Now they got to win a game in the conference final for me to really believe, considering they're 0 and 8 in their last.
Paul Bissonnette
Also depends who they're playing, too. We don't know.
Ryan Whitney
I actually think they're owing 12 in their last three trips because didn't the Penguins sweep them one year?
Keith Yandle
Yeah, the last three trips they have not won a game was against Pittsburgh. I believe Philly or I believe the other one was against Boston, where they lost four straight. And then, of course, Florida. Don't know what you guys have dove into because once again, I was taking a massive. Little bit nervous, you know, for a game Game six jitters. Master class by the Carolina Hurricanes. They scrap. They skated Washington into the ground. Their penalty kill is incredible. They're just as good defensively on the kill as they are five on five. It's banana lands. Their power play came to like a. After the first game. It was brutal. Made some adjustments. I think they found the back of the net in game two and then they never really had that many issues after that. Like it would generate momentum. Their, their zone entries were a little bit cleaner. It wasn't as quote unquote disastrous as it was in game one. So that was really the only glaring issue that they had apart as part of the series. Anderson looked incredible. It looks like the rest that from the regular season because he wasn't playing night in, night out really benefited him. Even the little layoff he had in playoffs after he got bumped by New Jersey. Their defense, I mean you heard Carberry did you rolled Carberry's clip about Slaving and how he should be nominated. He should be nominated for the Norris. Every year we'll go down to history.
Ryan Whitney
And I'll just speak for myself is this is one of the greatest seasons that I've ever been a part of as a coach or a player and I'll never forget this group. But I told those guys I love them and every single one of them what we went through as a group this year and what they accomplished and O's record and everything that went into this season, I will never forget this group.
Keith Yandle
Well, this has nothing to do with the Slavin comment, but that's him pumping his own team's tires. Thanks a lot whoever threw that up there. We'll get to. We'll get to that clip though and pump Washington's tires on the way out. But basically he said he goes the fact that this guy's not nominated for the nor for the Norris year in, year out, I think just pretty much furthers the argument that they need to have a defensive defenseman award and or. Or people should rethink the fact of. Of how they should vote for the Norris because he was a wet blanket and surprisingly Slaven, he has a better point per game average in playoffs than he does in the regular season. He's about a half point per game in the playoffs, doesn't take minor penalties and is a complete wet blanket out there when it comes to shutting guys down. So but to a man on the back end, I thought, like I said, a masterclass and all the additions they've made and just the way they play I rolled a few clips over and over on the broadcast of them losing an offensive zone draw and how Brent Burns, when it goes D2D, he's the one going down because he knows he has that S F3 support. So the way they constantly attack but then yet cover for each other and it doesn't matter what position you're playing, they're covering. It's, it's. It's like, pretty to watch. I know there's been a. A massive amount of criticism that it's boring. And I think that the matchup between them and Washington was boring. I didn't necessarily think that between them and New Jersey, I thought the games were definitely more exciting. So take the criticism for what it is. But watching them skate a team into the ground, to me wasn't as boring as most people played it out to be. So congrats to rob the BOD and what they were able to accomplish. They've earned their rest, and I think that they're going to need it whoever they play, whether it's Toronto or Florida, because I do think that I would favor either of those teams against them. But as we know in the past and now I think that they enjoy being the underdogs because a lot of people didn't have them winning that series against Washington and they easily dismantled them. So that's pretty much all I got to say. I think you pretty much named all the forwards and all the guys whose tires we had to pump. Probably the most glaring forward, in my opinion, eight goals. I think he's one behind, one behind Ratnan right now for the lead in playoffs. So bravo to him. And maybe he's budding as that superstar. We continue to say that they don't have.
Ryan Whitney
So if, if I look at when they play Florida, you know, you. All right, Say you match up Barkov and Aho. I think Barkov's a better player, but Ajo's phenomenal. All right, we'll call that like a wash. Then you go to the center, second line. Rostovich, I mean, he's going against Bennett. I think that, that, that's a big time mismatch. Right? And then. And then you go to Jordan Stall. Great third line, checking center. But Lundell, I think he can answer him. And you look down the middle. I mean, you look on the wings, and that's where you see the difference in these two teams. I don't know if they can slow down Florida the way they did Washington. I think that Florida is that much better than Washington, but I can't Wait to see it. I can't wait to see Carolina. I do think that this series won't be as boring. I think they knew just. We're just going to completely smother Washington and they'll have to change certain things in their game against Florida. But I want to give the fans credit because it's an incredible fan base. I would love to go down there for the finals. The game's there. Do you guys remember the Oilers game we went to two years ago?
Keith Yandle
They have an incredible.
Ryan Whitney
Fucking awesome. But I don't. I just don't get why they get so upset when people call them boring.
Paul Bissonnette
It's like they should be proud of that. They should be proud of that. Like, wear that with a badge of honor. They're making the games born and they're winning it. Like, you don't want to play an exciting game against Alex Ovechkin and. And Tom Wilson. Like, you want it to be as vanilla as possible and win the way that you can. And. And you got to give them credit for doing that. And yeah, I think, like, you've said the, you know, a couple times. It's just be happy with the way that you're playing. You're winning games, you're moving on, and you got to continue to do that if you're going to win. Because the teams that change didn't change the way that they play in playoffs. They don't make it far. Like, you can't.
Keith Yandle
But. But here's where I disagree about the boring part. Like watching New Jersey back in the day when they would smother teams and it would be, you know, two one, and, you know, they would set up in the neutral zone and like, left wing law, all that type of stuff. Like Carolina's in the ozone, like, having their defenseman pinching. So, like, they're. They're going like, they're. They're getting in on the offense. They're not just sitting back. So from the.
Ryan Whitney
But what I find boring biz is they just throw everything on net, which. Which works for them. So you're not seeing a ton of, like, creativity in the office.
Keith Yandle
Not as many great A's, but mind you, they. They would generate just as many great A's as Washington. That was mostly because they were shutting Washington down where they weren't getting many. But I also think that it has a lot to do with the fact that you go watch Florida, Toronto or, you know, Edmonton and whoever, and you watch all these other series that are on crack, you know, Colorado, Dallas, like, like those Were the. The high scoring chances like back and forth action? So I guess comparatively to that, it's. It's boring. But I think that it's been getting a little bit too much criticism for the boring side of it compared to what's actually boring. Hockey. Like, like I said, I just showed those clips on there where it's like they're fucking in the ozone. They got Brent Burns pinching on one end and he's rimming it around. Then you got Slaving pinching on the other. It's like, holy fuck, they're coming at you kamikaze style. Like, it's fucking. You're under attack here. So.
Ryan Whitney
And at home, it's impossible to. It's like, oh, it's impossible to deal with that team.
Keith Yandle
You're literally in a hurricane. Like, that's why they call them the Hurricanes. You're in the eye of the storm. Just going over to Washington, though. Like, I felt like I felt. What's that?
Paul Bissonnette
The eye is.
Ryan Whitney
The eye of the storm is calm and relaxed, but they're always okay.
Keith Yandle
Well, look at me, idiot. With analogy, Washington, I felt like they also ran out of steam because of everything that they were putting up with in the back of the seat. Like all the camera crews around, like, ov goal chase, celebration here, celebration. There's like, that's a lot. It's a lot on the nervous system. You're fucking, you know, you're going crazy. You're essentially partying like you're, you're in the MLB or after. Every time he's scoring a goal at the end of the season, you're, you're. You're popping the champagne and crushing Bud Light. So incredible season. Jacob Chickren, career year for him, big contract. Logan Thompson, career for him, massive contract. You know, great trade for. For Bavillier, who had a great playoffs. I'm sure he's going to get a nice deal this offseason. Like, it just really feels like they had a lot of great stories. And we do have that clip from Carberry. He did touch on the success of the season and the last one. This is what he had to say about Jacob Slavin as they're in this league.
Ryan Whitney
And another shout out just quickly because he doesn't get enough credit. I think he started to get credit since the Four Nations Jacob Slavin is.
Paul Bissonnette
Now.
Ryan Whitney
He's not in the Norris Trophy conversation every single year. It's. It doesn't seem right. Obviously, the guys that are. That are there are tremendous players in their own right, but that he's one.
Keith Yandle
Heck of a player. A little, little tire pump.
Ryan Whitney
I know that the Caps, they went to the final, I think 97 or 98. Detroit swept them. So that's an amazing run to win your conference. But I think most Capitals fans would say this is their second favorite season ever, right? Like it was an. No one thought they were going to do. The only thing anyone cared about is the OV chase. And even most people thought that would be next season. And it turned into an incredible run. Like, I think that that fan base is probably the, the, the happiest losing Round two. I know that sounds ridiculous, but it's like, fuck, we didn't even think we'd maybe make the playoffs. We got to see this amazing record and he broke his leg in the middle of the year. And then we got to win the first round and dominate Montreal. And those games were. Those are the. Some of the best games in the playoffs, entertainment wise. And then we ran into a team that just like you said, skated us into the ground. So I think also Ryan Leonard got back into the lineup last night, or had he been in the game before? He's coming. He's going to be a great player. Cole Hudson drafted. He's at bu. This kid's going to be a stud in the NHL. They have a lot of great things coming for them. And it's a fun year, a fun season. OVI did what we thought was never going to happen in this game. And congrats to the Capitals and their fans. I didn't even have you making playoffs. Shocker. I was wrong again. But you proved everyone wrong and you gave it a hell of a run and you just ran into a fucking great hockey team. Nothing you can put it all.
Keith Yandle
To put it all in perspective, Washington went from one of the lowest scoring teams in the league with a mini minus 40 goal differential last season, they snuck in that wild card to being the second highest scoring team this year. So that just speaks to the volumes of what they were able to accomplish. But going back over to Carolina, the second highest scoring team in the league, only scored seven goals in five games, three of which were scored in game two. Every one of their losses, they held him to one fucking goal per game. That is just remarkable tip of the cap to Carolina and what Rod the Bod's done there, they are going to be a tough, tough out. And if it is Florida, just like McDavid said, we got memories like elephants when, when Vegas beat us out a few years ago. And that was the fuck that that was the payback that McDavid and the Oilers wanted to put back on Vegas. They're going to want to put that same payback on Florida. But we're getting ahead of ourselves, guys. It's Leafs and seven Lego.
Paul Bissonnette
I will say, just about Washington, I think. I think a lot of people fell in love with that team. I know, I did too, because a lot of cameras were on them this year. You got a lot of looks in their locker room, the way that Carberry treated them, the way that they, you know, it looked like they loved each other and played for each other and with the whole OB race and everything. So I think having cameras around teams like that will grow more for people, you know, appreciating even more what players are doing day in, day out. So, yeah, congrats to them on a great year. Like you said, with something that no one ever thought would ever be done. You guys got to enjoy that and sucks losing, obviously, but a lot of good things to, to be proud about this year.
Ryan Whitney
I do think there are a lot of similarities too, between the 06 cup champ Hurricanes and this year's team. I don't know if you, if you remember, like, they didn't, they didn't have a superstar now Eric Stahl was 20 and I had 100 points that year, so I guess you could say he was, he was right there, if not already a superstar. But it was a. It was a team that I don't think a lot of people before that playoffs had winning at all. And they just kept going. It took them game seven against my Oilers. But there, there are similarities there and let's see what happens. But because they're going to have to.
Keith Yandle
Have Anderson stay healthy, that's the biggest thing.
Ryan Whitney
G said that when you were dumping. G said that.
Keith Yandle
Sorry, G. Boy. G. Florida.
Ryan Whitney
Can someone on Florida, you know, throw an elbow in into Anderson's head, which.
Keith Yandle
Well, we know Toronto likely to do. They're likely he'll stay healthy if they play against the Leafs.
Ryan Whitney
All right, off to the last Carolina, last series, last series, guys. Connor Hellebuck, he's gotta win one road game. He's gotta win one fucking road game. And the way he looked last night, Biz, you don't think it can happen? I think it can happen.
Paul Bissonnette
I think he can happen last night.
Ryan Whitney
Now for me, buddy, I need seven overtimes in game six and then four overtime. Like that win. That win for. Win for Winnipeg was huge for me. Huge, right? Just beat him down. Punch him down. I think that Winnipeg played their best Game of the playoffs last night. Arena was madness. Hello. Buck was great. He didn't really even have to be. But they were just phenomenal. Ehlers looks like he's rich to another level. They had the Jamie Bent, the Jamie Ben punch to Lee and they had Dallas rattled. Now can they go and win a road game? Guys, your, your, your whole season will change. In my mind. You're not fraud. If they lose and they can't win one fucking road game, they're frauds.
Keith Yandle
That's fraudulent jokes biz.
Paul Bissonnette
That is how you play a home game in the NHL when your back is against the wall. That's how your fans act, that's how your players act. You go out and you play a full six.
Keith Yandle
We don't need to make this about Toronto.
Paul Bissonnette
Oh no, I wasn't even thinking that. Geez. I was just, just incredible. Like, the atmosphere looked insane. The plays you could tell from shift one were ready to go, ready to run through a wall, do whatever. Like Chuck said 3,000 times. I wonder if Conor Hellebuk went into that locker room, was like, boys, jump on because he was so good. And they had to because Ottinger has been amazing. The first goal goes off someone, you're like, oh my God, this, you know, that's the only way you're going to beat this guy. And then they end up. They stick with it. They stick with it. They find ways. They get under Dallas's skin, which they haven't really done yet this series. And they played unbelievable for a full 60 minutes with their back against the wall.
Keith Yandle
There's only been two home or two games in these playoffs that Dallas hasn't scored a power play goal. Incredible home game though. As you guys mentioned, Hellbuck looked like himself. He looked athletic, his reads were great. He was very active with his stick. I don't know if you guys noticed that on the first goal they scored. He was the one. It was a two on one at the net. Sandberg got beat by Rotten and. And he slid it down for a goal line play. I forget who the other guy was, but he tried to, you know, come out and tuck it around. Haluk pokes it away, they go back the other way and Shifely gets that lucky bounce off the planko. Goal. Also for Winnipeg, they get those power plays, right? They get the five on three and then they're able to get that insurance. Nikolai Ers, who. So he came back in game six of last round and obviously they needed him, right? They were dealing with injuries. They had Shively out They had him out. And then Morrissey because he'd been banged up last round and looking at Ehlers playoff numbers like this guy's leaving after this season's done, right? He's going to become an unrestricted free agent. He's going to sign a big ticket somewhere. I think he's made it pretty clear that he wants to be a first line winger. And Kyle Conner ain't going anywhere because he's the guy there. He had only had four playoff goals in 38 playoff games coming in to game six in the last round. 14 points, 14 points total in 30 off 30, 38 playoff games. So since then, I know he didn't score in game six, the last round, but he makes that play to keep it, keep the, their season alive in game seven where he assisted on that tying goal in the dying seconds. And then since then, five goals in his last four games. So he's all of a sudden defying his stride, right these playoff stride. So him coming to is a massive, massive for the Winnipeg Jacks along with everything else they got going. But the, the, it mainly comes down to hella buck and what his road performance is going to look like. But if I'm Dallas, I'm very concerned at the fact that he looked like regular season Hellebok and it seems like maybe the pressure is coming off of them from the, the, the, the, the playoff woes, so to speak.
Ryan Whitney
You gotta think, dude, that with what he's done in his career that he can show up in game, at least give him a chance, at least give them a chance, right? They don't even, they don't even need him to completely steal a game. Like that's not even what they're asking for. Jets fans just don't suck in an early goal. That's a wrist shot from the top of the circles that we've seen, I don't know, on the road like six times this year. So if he could just show up and give him a chance based on how they just played. I, I, I think if, buddy, if it goes seven, that's a complete coin flip. You, I mean look at what happened against St. Louis. The game was over and they somehow pulled it out. So Dallas, incredible team. I think that they're able to just totally, I mean Marner's like, we got to flush this down the toilet. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Keith Yandle
Mary speaker zero.
Ryan Whitney
Dallas can say we got to flush that one down the toilet. That's the perfect example of using. We're flushing this one away. We didn't have our best. They were desperate. We're going to be better. Can Connor Hellebach win this game though?
Keith Yandle
That is the biggest question, my biggest.
Ryan Whitney
Concern about the narrative around him if he wins this game.
Keith Yandle
Yeah, my biggest concern for Winnipeg is Tits McGee behind the bench. She's going to be, well, she's one and own closeout games this playoffs and last banger has been released from prison, boys.
Ryan Whitney
I, I, I, I, I thought it was May 15th. I think he got out yesterday.
Keith Yandle
He got out yesterday.
Ryan Whitney
He's going to be banging his ankle bracelet off.
Keith Yandle
Yes, that would be, that would be my main concern if I'm the Winnipeg Jets. If they got Tits McGee behind the bench and then Glass banger in on the four check in his seat. So I don't know what else they can do to elevate their play, but they're going to have to play like they did last game where they shut them down. There was only, you know, about a dozen shots through two periods for the Dallas Stars. So clamping it down, putting on that chastity belt as far as defense is concerned, Hella Buck showing up and neutralizing Tits McGee and Glassbanger. And we're going back to Winnipeg for seven. If Winnipeg going to seven and bringing them back there in Canada, that's the best thing that could happen to you for the next round. That's the best thing.
Ryan Whitney
And for Winnipeg, oh yeah, for the Oilers, no doubt. But for, for Winnipeg, like DeBoer's gonna lose a Game 7 at some point. It's just the law of averages. So either he loses it this round if Winnipeg can get a Game 6 win on the road, or when we go to seven with him, he's gonna lose. Like you can't win every game seven. Yes, people probably said that after he's four and zero, five and zero, six and zero seven, he's nine and zero. But at some point he will lose a game seven. Will it be this round or will it be against the Oilers? I would love a game 7 though. Just bunch of overtimes, bunch of big hits. What did you think of the, the play where Ben suckered.
Keith Yandle
So if you look closely, they were, they were going full lesbo scissor on the ice when they, when they were down on the ground, right. They were beaver, beaver smacking. And I think that Jamie, Ben thought that when Shly was getting up and he extended his leg that he kicked him because he mouthed the words when he got up and that's why he suckered him. Do I think that Schifely did it intentionally? No, I have no idea. I wasn't on the bottom of that pile and I'm not inside of his brain. He got him right in the clit. He got him right in the. Right. Right in the.
Paul Bissonnette
Which. For those nuts.
Keith Yandle
Roast beef sandwich business.
Paul Bissonnette
The using your foot as a weapon in hockey. And anytime, like, your foot's near someone is the biggest. No, no. So, like, I could see why his wires crossed, but go ahead. Sorry.
Keith Yandle
No, but did you feel that? That's maybe why he snapped like that.
Paul Bissonnette
I thought that was a good catch by you when you texted that. Because I didn't see it. And then. Yes, I thought so.
Keith Yandle
Well, Liam McHugh pointed it out and then we watched it in slow mo and I'm like, yeah. And then I had a couple other people text me saying, I think that he thinks that he tried to kick him.
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah. Which he probably didn't, but he probably.
Keith Yandle
It looked like it was like a. Like a. Like a 4 inch extension of him scrambling, trying to get up. So, you know, anything for. You know, anything to get the wires crossed for Jamie. Ben, that's not a guy you want to piss off the wrong way. He's kind of a psycho. But we'll see what they got in game six. But I got nothing much else for that series, boys. It's gonna be.
Ryan Whitney
I kind of loved how Shifely he went down. It was almost like he's gonna stay down. Then his wired wires crossed, he got up and. And then he was going insane on the bench, losing his mind. But I kind of like that. Like, that's the passion, dude. That's the fire. Like, we're not going down. This thing's going to six. We're going to win on the.
Keith Yandle
Well, he never goes down. Yeah, he never goes down. It's a. It's a joke.
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah, I get it.
Keith Yandle
He made a comment years ago that he doesn't like eating box.
Ryan Whitney
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Ryan Whitney
Ok, there we go, guys. Talk back to Philly. God.
Keith Yandle
What?
Ryan Whitney
I mean, everyone kind of saw it. Everyone could see it. God, he played for the Flyers the way he played, the way that fan base wants their team to play. We need Rick Talkett. I think Bruins fans were holding out hope. No, no, no, no, no. I'm going back to Philly. I'm going with Danny Briere, I'm going with Keith Jones. And we're gonna find. We're gonna find what it takes to win a Stanley cup here. Because, guys, 1975, that was a long time ago. That's only seven years after what was the Leafs last one? Biz? 67. Yeah. Eight years, right? So, Philly, this is a long time. This is a fan base who's had. They came close against Chicago in 2010. But no, no, no. We're going with Rick Talkett. We're going with the man who played here, knows what it takes to be successful here. And Biz, he got a big old.
Keith Yandle
Bag of Money, he got paid and he deserved it. Jack Adams, two years removed. Difficult year this year in Vancouver. Thought he balanced it and juggled it well, though. Was very impressed with his exit press conference and talking about the PD and Miller situation and, you know, how he tried to manage it and what he saw from it. I know Quinn Hughes is going to miss him. That's why they had to resign the D coach, Adam Foote, to keep and continue to establish a very similar culture that Talk had. Obviously, he will be missed there because he does have that experience as a head coach, but ultimately, Philly's a few years away, right? So they're starting this thing from the ground up with Jonesy, and what better guy to have in there to help build a culture than Rick Talkett? I mean, he won it as a player, won it twice as an assistant, and now he's trying to win it as a head coach. So he's been around winners his whole life, and I think it's a perfect fit to go back there, a place he had so much success as a player and, you know, helped establish a winning culture at that time, and he gets to go back there and assemble a staff in order to do so. Now, I don't think there's going to be pressure to make playoffs for the next two years there. I would imagine, as they continue to try to stockpile, you know, good talent that can help you win in the NHL. You know, they did get rid of some guys at the deadline, and they do still have some guys there that you can build and work around, but they do have work to do. Right. And I think that we can all agree that they're probably two, three years away from making playoffs. So for him to go there, you know, and leave Vancouver, it's. It's kind of nice, right? Not only are you getting this bag, but there's not this immense amount of pressure to all of a sudden step in and make playoffs and win a Stanley cup, where he will have a little bit of rope here. And I would imagine that. That Flyers fans will probably be lenient for, you know, two years until they do finally enter playoff. Playoff aspirations. So congrats to him. An enormous bag. Well deserved. And I really look forward to see Philly back in the mix, man, because when we went there a couple years ago, it was pretty depressing watching a game. I don't know if you were with us that trip, Whit. It was me, G. I think Dale was there and the building was half empty, and it wasn't that Flyers fan base and culture that we have come to grown and know. Like during the Mike Richards playoff era, where they were going against the Pittsburgh Penguins and it was sold out, and they had fucking Crosby dolls hanging by a fucking noose and, you know, big fucking baby written on the big cardboard cutouts like it was a goddamn WWE match. So we need that fucking. The hateful Flyers fan back in the building rooting against opposing players and really scaring the fucking shit out of them when they walk out of that tunnel.
Ryan Whitney
Well said.
Paul Bissonnette
And talks the guy to do that. He did it his whole career playing, you know, couldn't.
Ryan Whitney
I don't know if they have many prospects. I don't know.
Keith Yandle
Hey, they got to get going here, and they got money to spend in free agency. You know, they're going to be going after some. Some guys, apparently. And, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of guys out there come free agency that would love to pull on that Flyers jersey. I mean, it's a fucking, you know, it's. It's a. It's a traditional franchise. It's got tons of tradition there. And they got the sixth overall pick. As G's letting us know. Okay, I got nothing less left on that. You guys done?
Paul Bissonnette
No. Congrats to talk.
Ryan Whitney
Well, you mentioned Adam Foote became the head coach in Vancouver. There was a clip that went a little viral after the hiring where I think he was talking to you, biz, actually, where Quinn Hughes says, he's the best coach I've ever had.
Keith Yandle
Yeah, I asked him the question.
Ryan Whitney
So I get that. Right? I mean, good job is great.
Keith Yandle
First good one I've ever asked.
Ryan Whitney
Yep. Same way we talk about talk. Like Adam Foote, one of the meanest, hardest defensemen of his generation. Right. Like, he knows what it takes to win a Stanley Cup. He knows how you have to play when you get to that level. Vancouver needed some sort. Sort of stability. Now how can he approach getting Elias Pedersen to become the player that he was when that contract was signed? If I were to take the job the way he did, that's my first thing. I don't know if you're flying over to see him. I don't know if it's on the phone or zoom. You have to get to the bottom of what's been going on with his game. Right. Because without him, I don't see how Vancouver becomes a really good team again. If he can be the guy that everyone saw those first few years, this could turn around a lot quicker. Right. You got a highly paid, highly skilled player if that guy isn't going to play like he needs to play to become good, like he did when you were good, then you're done.
Keith Yandle
Throw him in the Pacific.
Ryan Whitney
He calls him. He's like, if you don't start playing, buddy, you're going into the ocean.
Keith Yandle
We're going to go whale watching, and then I'm going to throw you overboard and you're going to get gobbled up by one.
Ryan Whitney
I don't know. Jim Rutherford, quote, machine, quote, let him get interviewed once a week. Can we interview him and just get quote after quote after quote? I don't know. He did mention bringing over the Hughes's brothers to have Quinn happy. There was a possible tampering charge within that. I don't know if anything came of that, but Adam Foote, no wonder he's a head coach in the NHL, is basically what I'm trying to say say here.
Keith Yandle
So he was Jacob Slaving before Jacob Slavin?
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah. Little meaner. Little meaner. I think that's true.
Ryan Whitney
Yeah. Not as good of a skater, but meaner.
Keith Yandle
But back then, you cross guy in the spleen and you wouldn't even get called for it. So he didn't take many penalties either.
Paul Bissonnette
What, What. What Quinn Hughes said about him too, which I really liked, is he said, you know, he's a guy that you would want your kids to be coached by, too. He's not there screaming in your face, you know, belittling you. He's. He's teaching you the game. He's wanting you to get better. He's trying to help you get to that next level, which I think that makes a lot of sense for these guys that played, especially a guy like him who played at the highest level, won at the highest level. He wants these guys to get there and to taste that. And you can tell when you know one of the best defensemen in the league is saying stuff like that about you, that's gonna make them feel good.
Keith Yandle
Love it.
Ryan Whitney
After 17 NHL seasons, Sam, we have a little. We have a little breaking news here for you.
Keith Yandle
Whit.
Ryan Whitney
Chuck, Is that the bar Chuck Knobloch or Knoblock?
Paul Bissonnette
Chuck Knobloch.
Ryan Whitney
Chuck Knobloch. Knobloch says Echol won't be back for games one or two, but he's optimistic he'll be back in the third round. Here. Wow.
Keith Yandle
Get that rope hill in you. You got a hockey boner, don't you?
Ryan Whitney
I don't need it. I don't need it. I'm bricked up. Might be back all night. Echol's coming back. You think I need an R.O. sparks? You think I need that? Honey, show's almost over. Ekholm's coming back.
Paul Bissonnette
You could just do it during an.
Keith Yandle
Ad rejection, put this jersey on. He caught his jersey with a. With a dartboard on the back.
Ryan Whitney
That's amazing.
Keith Yandle
Instead of a number.
Ryan Whitney
I'm excited. I am excited to hear that. But Gags, Sam Gagne, guys. What a career. Couple clicks. I mean, dude, this guy is obsessed with hockey. No, no surprise. I believe he's already been hired as the director of player development with the Senators. Is that. Yeah. Teams director of player development. Which. Dude, this kid is so skilled. This kid I'm talking to. God. Gags is. What is he, 35 years old now in the NHL at 18. Oilers, Coyotes, Flyers, Blue Jackets, Canucks, back to the Oilers, Red Wings, jets, back to the Oilers. And what's cool is Gags. Gags came in as a very high pick. He was going to be an offensive player. He realized he had to change things. He had to change his game a little bit as his career went on, and he did. To play that long on that many different teams, to be able to change the way that you go about playing the game and be more responsible defensively and realize you're not going to be first power play guy. I loved playing with them. Such a good dude in the locker room. Keith, you play with him as well, right?
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah, loved him. Where'd you play with him in Phoenix? He went. He was like the. The new age skill that we see now from pretty much everybody. Like his backhand, toe drag, his. His vision. But yeah, he was an amazing player. But what. And you said it earlier, too, his love for the game. Like that guy, dude, eight, hockey. He absolutely loved it. It was like. I mean, when you see guys who love it like that, it's, you know, it's inspiring to everybody else. And he brought that to every team that he was on. He's always at the rink early, whether he's just taping sticks or looking at other guys sticks. Just a pleasure to be around. You know, obviously everyone remembers when he was the first, second and third star. That one game which was pretty insane. What do you have?
Keith Yandle
Eight, nine points.
Ryan Whitney
Eight points.
Paul Bissonnette
That's an unbelievable career for biz. But yeah, he did it one game. But yeah, Unreal guy. Great family guy, too. I think he's got like. Dude, he texted me last night. He knows Oldie well because they have him and him and Nasher have cottages like two minutes down the road from each other, up and I don't even want to say where it is, but they have cottages together. And he sees Oldie all the time. He's like, yeah. First time I ever met him, he was in a. He was in a bikini with his bean bag hanging out and just, like, introducing himself like it was normal.
Ryan Whitney
Guys. Speaking of Oldie, he's. He's actually live on the beach right now. He wanted to come check in and say hi.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Let's go.
Ryan Whitney
Let's go. Yeah. Hiding in the ac. Come out and play with me. Y. Let's go. Don't be scared of the heat. Let's go Biz wet. Morning, baby. Let's drunk or him or Chuck?
Keith Yandle
Hey, these guys are saying that you're gonna be a turncoat. Next thing you know, you're gonna have a Panthers jersey on. Tell me they're full of buddy.
Ryan Whitney
Kick rocks, buddy. Just like this. Go pound sand. Go pound sand, Buddy. Look. Boom, boom, boom. Get your garbage out of here, dude. Bandwagon or this.
Keith Yandle
Get out of there.
Ryan Whitney
Okay.
Paul Bissonnette
Get in the Elbow Room.
Keith Yandle
What's your prediction for tonight, Oldie?
Ryan Whitney
I'm bumping over to the Elbow Room. Four two Buds. Solid Four two Buds.
Keith Yandle
I'm gonna need you there and warm up. I'm gonna need you with the Leafs and 7. Sign right behind Bob. And I need your pocket staring him right in the face.
Ryan Whitney
Let's go. Let's call.
Keith Yandle
Can we see. Can we see the pocket?
Ryan Whitney
Yeah. Six pack, is it? Who said a six, dude? I don't. I don't know if we want to do this right now, Oldie.
Paul Bissonnette
Yeah, I know. You never know what you're gonna get, Oldie.
Ryan Whitney
No, like, we might get a hogshot. Oh, my God.
Keith Yandle
Bring it home.
Paul Bissonnette
I got one question for you.
Ryan Whitney
Talk to me.
Paul Bissonnette
Did Biz fly you first class?
Ryan Whitney
I don't know what happened there.
Paul Bissonnette
That's a no.
Ryan Whitney
Does he remember? You know what I was? I was a horseshoe hand grenade. One looking close right out from the window.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
I was right.
Ryan Whitney
Right behind the first class. But you know what? That's what I live for. Stepping up every day. I don't want to be first class. I don't want that.
Keith Yandle
Dude, we're blue collar, baby.
Paul Bissonnette
I'm a bumper.
Ryan Whitney
I'm a grinder, bro. Send me in the cargo ship underneath. Dude, you name the place, name the place. The kid's gonna show up. It doesn't matter how you get there. It's about being here. It's about the bots. The hell is this flying over? We're bumping. We're Grinding. The buzz is coming out crazy tonight. But if you tell me not getting fired up.
Paul Bissonnette
Pounded that kneelander behind him.
Ryan Whitney
Dude.
Keith Yandle
Oh, no. Is that Nylander on the beach beside you?
Ryan Whitney
Nice. Hey, we need you tonight.
Keith Yandle
Eight.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Eight.
Ryan Whitney
We need you hard. Let's go. Step on the pedal. If they can't win with this guy in attendance base.
Keith Yandle
That's what I mean.
Ryan Whitney
They gotta just fold.
Keith Yandle
I'll give up my fandom if they don't win with this guy in attendance.
Paul Bissonnette
I'm calling security now.
Ryan Whitney
Oh, you call them. You're gonna need a mate. Call up backup too. Maybe call Walt Disney World to bring their security guards too. Let's go, dude.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Let's go.
Ryan Whitney
Leaves. I need all boys buzzing. Listen, if you guys are listening, I need you out there. Look, we got a guy out here. This guy's fun.
Keith Yandle
Let's go, baby.
Ryan Whitney
Who's that? Kane? Is that Patrick Kane? Go out. I got that tatted on. Look, this guy's in.
Keith Yandle
Oh, yeah. Let's go, baby.
Ryan Whitney
Oh, this is perfect. Two losers just hanging out on the beach. Let's go, let's go, let's go.
Keith Yandle
What's his prediction?
Ryan Whitney
Owen Barkley is thick.
Paul Bissonnette
What do you mean, what's his prediction?
Keith Yandle
Well, score wise, I'm asking.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Score.
Ryan Whitney
I think it's a routing five one. Fellas are deranged. Keith. Whoa.
Keith Yandle
Sorry.
Ryan Whitney
Stole ours.
Keith Yandle
He said.
Ryan Whitney
He said stole ours.
Keith Yandle
Well, he might be in. He skated a couple days ago.
Ryan Whitney
He's on truly unruly. He's already fired up out here.
Keith Yandle
We don't do truly. We don't do truly. Get him some pink Whitney at the elbow.
Paul Bissonnette
He's used to the pardon my thing.
Ryan Whitney
This guy's. What's your neighbor? Tyler. Tyler with the boys live. Say what up? The spin. Chiclets. What's up, Chiclets?
Paul Bissonnette
What are you rooting for tonight?
Ryan Whitney
What are you rooting for tonight? Oh, Panthers all the way. Yeah. Can we talk about that? Shave job of the belly up into the middle of the tits. But then you keep some hair on the nipples. You love it.
Paul Bissonnette
Battery ran out.
Keith Yandle
Oh. Let's go, Aldi. Thanks for popping by. I love it. That's what we needed.
Paul Bissonnette
That's the way I'm going to the beach right now. I'm gonna go punch his head in.
Ryan Whitney
They might win tonight. That's what they really might.
Keith Yandle
Why do you think I sent them there in my lucky shirt? They got no chance. This one's over. We're going back to Toronto, Whit.
Paul Bissonnette
I sent Oldie to Wellen to Mush this guy now, he's latched on. He's latched on. He thinks he's a part of it. They're done, son. They're done.
Ryan Whitney
There's also a chance of. A very legit chance. He doesn't. He's not let in to the arena tonight.
Keith Yandle
I mean, he's getting it.
Ryan Whitney
Puck drops. Puck drops in what, seven hours? Like he's going to the elbow room right now. If he even makes it to the game. I think you got a chance. But there's a. There's a. There's a quality shot that he might not be. Be actually allowed into the building.
Keith Yandle
Hey, he better be allowed in because he's got a birthday present for Caesar, the guy who've been going at it with online from Florida. So little bit of a piece treated before the game, and then it's down to business. I got nothing left to say, boys. Oldie took the words out of my mouth. A little rah rah before we end this. Go Leafs, baby. Let's go.
Paul Bissonnette
I will be back at. Gonna go do my same thing. Pregame meal at Houston's. Gonna go there right now. 12:30 reservation perfect time. So unreal show, boys. Can't wait for tonight. Hey, two game sixes tonight.
Keith Yandle
Oh, no. Who's the other one?
Paul Bissonnette
The Celtics and the Knicks.
Keith Yandle
Oh, okay. No.
Ryan Whitney
All right.
Keith Yandle
Well, good to know. We love you guys.
Paul Bissonnette
Thank you so much for tuning in, boys.
Ryan Whitney
Yup. Thank you to you too. Congrats to the Oilers. Congrats to the Canes. We'll see what happens tonight. We'll see what happens tomorrow night. We're back next week on Tuesdays. Back to once a week. Thank you for your support. What a playoffs it's been. Thank you to Oldie. Thank you to Chuck, who's completely crippled right now getting a massage. But we love you all. Have a great weekend, everyone. Have a great one.
R.A. Mike Grinelli
Go the other way. It's.
Summary of Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 563: Featuring Charles Barkley
Release Date: May 16, 2025
In Episode 563 of Spittin’ Chiclets, hosted by former NHL veterans Ryan Whitney and Paul Bissonnette, alongside Barstool Sports writer and producer Mike Grinnell (referred to as "R.A. Mike Grinnelli"), the trio delves deep into the NHL playoffs, focusing primarily on the Toronto Maple Leafs' performance. The episode is peppered with their signature outspoken and irreverent commentary, blending hockey insights with humor and pop culture references. A special guest appearance by legendary basketball player Charles Barkley adds an extra layer of entertainment to the discussion.
00:22 - 01:34
The conversation kicks off with the hosts expressing frustration over the Toronto Maple Leafs' disappointing playoff performance. They critique the team's inconsistency and poor starts in crucial games.
Paul Bissonnette remarks at [03:51]:
"They’re right, they have a reason to be acting like this. Come on."
Keith Yandle adds at [04:14]:
"Why would you not act that way? That's a loser mentality."
The hosts focus particularly on the underperformance of key players like Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner, questioning their commitment and effectiveness during high-stakes moments.
01:34 - 04:03
Amidst the critique, Keith Yandle introduces a humorous yet inspirational element by mentioning "Oldie," his life coach and spirit animal, who is sent to Florida to inject positive energy into the struggling Leafs.
Keith Yandle at [10:03]:
"Oldie, he's got the right attitude. He's a fucking positive guy."
Ryan Whitney at [11:02]:
"All I want to see tonight is some fucking fight, man."
This segment serves as both comic relief and a satirical take on the need for leadership and motivation within the team.
04:07 - 14:43
The episode takes a lively turn with the inclusion of Charles Barkley, who joins the conversation, bringing his unique perspective and humor.
Charles Barkley humorously interacts, discussing topics ranging from Body Armor sports drinks to his own drinking habits.
Ryan Whitney introduces Barkley's participation at [34:42]:
"This episode is brought to you by the Body Armor Sports Drink... Oldie Chuck Charles Barkley drinks hot body armor."
Barkley’s playful banter and exaggerated endorsements add a layer of entertainment, keeping the discussion light-hearted despite the heavy criticism of the Leafs.
14:43 - 33:13
Shifting focus, the hosts analyze the Edmonton Oilers' impressive playoff run, highlighting Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl's stellar performances. They commend the Oilers for their depth, defensive strategies, and the ability to overcome early setbacks.
Paul Bissonnette at [28:29]:
"Init's still alive. They're never dead."
Keith Yandle at [33:13]:
"I think he's gonna put the names of each of the core six in, in each ab."
The discussion underscores the Oilers' resilience and strategic gameplay, positioning them as a formidable contender for the Stanley Cup.
33:13 - 61:02
The spotlight then shifts to the Carolina Hurricanes, commending their strong defensive play and strategic discipline in the playoffs.
Paul Bissonnette at [48:53]:
"They have a team that can win the Stanley Cup."
Keith Yandle at [60:46]:
"Their penalty kill is incredible."
The hosts praise the Hurricanes for their ability to control the game tempo and effectively shut down opposing offenses, drawing parallels to their past championship runs.
61:02 - 100:07
A detailed breakdown follows on the intense series between the Winnipeg Jets and Dallas Stars. The hosts discuss key moments, player performances, and pivotal plays that could determine the series outcome.
Keith Yandle at [65:02]:
"He made a comment years ago that he doesn't like eating box. So they makeup a pass the defensemen."
Ryan Whitney at [99:00]:
"It's a game seven, we're going to win on the..."
The analysis highlights the importance of leadership, player health, and tactical adjustments in determining the series victor.
100:07 - 141:36
The discussion circles back to the Hurricanes, exploring their potential to advance further in the playoffs based on current performances and player contributions.
Paul Bissonnette at [119:06]:
"The eye is calm, they’re always okay."
Ryan Whitney at [125:08]:
"That’s what we needed. Chuck, thank you so much."
The hosts express optimism about the Hurricanes' chances, emphasizing their teamwork and strategic approach as key factors for success in upcoming games.
141:36 - End
The episode wraps up with light-hearted jokes, playful interactions among the hosts, and continued humorous references to "Oldie." Despite the intense analysis, the conversation retains its casual and entertaining tone, leaving listeners with a blend of humor and insightful hockey commentary.
Keith Yandle at [141:34]:
"We love you guys."
Ryan Whitney at [142:27]:
"Thanks to Oldie. Thank you to Chuck, who's completely crippled right now getting a massage."
Paul Bissonnette at [03:51]:
"They’re right, they have a reason to be acting like this. Come on."
Keith Yandle at [04:14]:
"Why would you not act that way? That's a loser mentality."
Keith Yandle at [10:03]:
"Oldie, he's got the right attitude. He's a fucking positive guy."
Paul Bissonnette at [25:37]:
"They don’t have a round mound of rebound on their team, though."
Ryan Whitney at [55:00]:
"Like, that is the most important game. We're going back to Toronto for Game 7."
Episode 563 of Spittin’ Chiclets offers a comprehensive and entertaining look into the current NHL playoffs, with a particular focus on the challenges faced by the Toronto Maple Leafs and the impressive performances of the Edmonton Oilers and Carolina Hurricanes. The inclusion of Charles Barkley adds a unique flavor, blending sports insights with humor. The hosts maintain their signature irreverent style, making complex hockey discussions accessible and engaging for both avid fans and casual listeners.