Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 566: Featuring Sam Reinhart, Matthew Tkachuk & Zach Hyman

Summary

Podcast Summary: Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 566

Title: Featuring Sam Reinhart, Matthew Tkachuk & Zach Hyman
Release Date: June 3, 2025
Hosts: Ryan Whitney, Paul Bissonnette, Mike Grinnell
Guest: Sam Reinhardt

---

1. Stanley Cup Final Rematch Preview

[01:06] Ryan Whitney:
“We are getting ready for an epic rematch in the Stanley Cup Final. My Edmonton Oilers vs Keith Dirtbag Florida Panthers. Just an incredible series.”

Overview:
The hosts delve into the excitement surrounding the upcoming Stanley Cup Final rematch between the Edmonton Oilers and the Florida Panthers. They reminisce about past notable rematches, highlighting the intensity and historical significance of such encounters.

Key Points:

• Edmonton Oilers' Resurgence: Recent performance improvements leading to their dominance in the playoffs despite a challenging regular season.
• Florida Panthers' Consistency: Returning to the Cup Final for the third consecutive year, showcasing their resilience and depth.
• Historical Context: Comparison to past rematches, emphasizing the rarity and excitement of facing the same opponent in the Finals multiple times.

[04:19] Biz Nasty:
“...this is going seven, guys.”

Insights:

• Depth and Strategy: Both teams are lauded for their strategic depth and ability to adapt, making the series highly unpredictable and thrilling.

2. Personal Health and Team Injuries

[10:37] Biz Nasty:
“For the first time in my life, once I hit 40, I’ve gotten gout.”

Overview:
Biz Nasty shares a personal anecdote about developing gout, attributing it to his high red meat intake. The conversation lightens the mood while also touching on how injuries impact participation in the playoff discussions.

Key Points:

• Biz’s Gout Story:
  • [11:20] Keith Yandle: “Wow, that’s Buddy.”
  • [14:23] Whitney: “That your foot looks like one of the two steaks you ate every night.”
• Impact on Participation: Biz discusses how his injury might affect his ability to participate in the Stanley Cup Final coverage, humorously suggesting he might attend in a walking boot.

Quotes:

• [15:01] Biz Nasty:
  “I can, but it’s pretty painful. So I’ll be battling through that the next couple days to be ready to go for the Stanley Cup Finals.”

3. Player Performances and Team Dynamics

[02:38] Biz Nasty:
“...congrats getting Big Cat on the train as well.”

Overview:
The discussion shifts to player performances, particularly focusing on key players like Connor McDavid, Matthew Tkachuk, and setbacks such as injuries to Zach Hyman.

Key Points:

• Connor McDavid’s Impact:
  • [07:04] Whitney: “He’s gonna have an impact on this series if Edmonton’s winning the cup.”
• Zach Hyman’s Injury:
  • [17:36] Whitney: “...but everyone seems to think he’ll be all right.”
  • [20:01] Keith Yandle: Discusses potential nature of Hyman’s injury and its implications on the Finals.
• Team Depth and Strategy: Emphasis on Edmonton’s depth and the Florida Panthers’ defensive improvements as critical factors in the series outcome.

Quotes:

• [37:04] Biz Nasty:
  “I think Scott Scheffler winning the Masters...”

4. Coaching and Team Management Controversies

[25:48] Whitney:
“One of the craziest, most bizarre times for a coach to...”

Overview:
Hosts critique Paul Maurice’s decision to forgo the traditional handshake line after a loss, viewing it as a power move that disrespects the sport’s sportsmanship.

Key Points:

• Handshake Line Tension:
  • [25:48] Whitney: Criticizes Maurice for refusing to participate in the handshake line, suggesting underlying tensions.
• Paul Maurice’s Leadership:
  • [30:42] Whitney: Praises Maurice’s coaching acumen while expressing frustration over his recent actions.
• Impact on Team Morale: Discussion on how Maurice's behavior might affect team dynamics and fan perceptions.

Quotes:

• [29:27] Biz Nasty:
  “...I'm sick and tired of Paul Maurice.”

5. Guest Segment: Sam Reinhardt’s Insights

[53:18] Ryan Whitney:
“So let’s throw it over right now to one of the best defensive and goal-scoring forwards in the league, Sam Reinhardt.”

Overview:
Sam Reinhardt joins the podcast to provide his perspective on the playoff run, team dynamics, and his injury.

Key Points:

• Playoff Performance:
  • [54:08] Biz Nasty: Questions Reinhardt about his increased physical play and its impact on his injury.
• Team Resilience:
  • [55:06] Whitney: Discusses the team's ability to adapt and the role of depth players in their success.
• Leadership and Team Chemistry:
  • [70:21] Whitney: Highlights Reinhardt’s leadership and his contribution to team harmony despite personal setbacks.

Quotes:

• [89:27] Ryan Whitney:
  “...my chance to bring anything more forward for the team is...”

6. Predictions and Final Thoughts

[76:30] Keith Yandle:
“I think Florida takes it down in six.”

Overview:
In the concluding segment, the hosts and Sam Reinhardt share their predictions for the Stanley Cup Final series, weighing the strengths and weaknesses of both teams.

Key Points:

• Series Outcome Predictions:
  • Kelly Yandle: Predicts Florida winning in six games.
  • Biz Nasty: Supports Edmonton winning in seven games, emphasizing the Oilers' depth and resilience.
• Key X Factors:
  • Stuart Skinner’s Performance: Identified as a critical factor for the Panthers.
  • Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl: McDavid’s continued excellence and leadership pivotal for the Oilers.

Quotes:

• [80:23] Biz Nasty:
  “I'm rooting from a distance. I do still have the Edmonton Oilers crop top...”

7. Closing Remarks

[133:17] Whitney:
“So that’s oil. Oil’s back to back against him in a rematch, I’m sick of and I’m sick and tired of him.”

Overview:
The hosts wrap up the episode with final thoughts on the upcoming Finals, expressing personal stakes and emotional investments in the series’ outcome.

Key Points:

• Emotional Investment:
  • Whitney: Expresses a deep personal desire for the Oilers to win, equating it to Connor McDavid’s legacy.
• Final Encouragement:
  • Encourages listeners to tune in for what promises to be a legendary Finals series.

Quotes:

• [130:44] Whitney:
  “...we’ve got one of the hardest working guys in that locker room...”

---

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• [02:38] Biz Nasty:
  “Buddy, congratulations...”

• [10:37] Biz Nasty:
  “...for the first time in my life, once I hit 40, I’ve gotten gout.”

• [25:48] Whitney:
  “One of the craziest, most bizarre times for a coach to like make this, I don’t know, statement like it...”

• [41:33] Keith Yandle:
  “You’re a good man.”

• [54:37] Whitney:
  “...You got to get on my program. Don’t cut out the red meat nights before games and you’ll be good to go.”

• [89:01] Whitney:
  “So, what’s going on? As painful as it might be to talk about it.”

---

Conclusion

Episode 566 of Spittin' Chiclets offers an in-depth and passionate discussion centered around the anticipated Stanley Cup Final rematch between the Edmonton Oilers and Florida Panthers. The hosts balance technical analysis with personal anecdotes, providing listeners with both expert insights and relatable moments. The inclusion of guest Sam Reinhardt enriches the conversation, offering firsthand perspectives on team dynamics and playoff pressures. Emphasizing team depth, player performances, and coaching strategies, the episode sets the stage for what promises to be a thrilling conclusion to the NHL playoffs.

Transcript

[Whitney]

Hey, Spit and Chiclets listeners.

[Ryan Whitney]

You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Whitney]

I found a kid who swings a golf club like a dream.

[Zach Hyman]

I'd like to try to qualify him.

[Biz Nasty]

For the US Amateurs coming to Apple TV plus what's your name?

[Ryan Whitney]

I'm not into older guys, but I'm.

[Whitney]

Flatter a new comedy series.

[Biz Nasty]

Stick.

[Zach Hyman]

I don't want to go on this trip. Your mouth's saying one thing, but those.

[Whitney]

Eyes are saying something else. From the home of Ted Lasso, you.

[Biz Nasty]

See your shot at redemption.

[Whitney]

This is your mulligan, Owen Wilson. This game takes anything. The game's finally giving me something bad.

[Biz Nasty]

Stick. You know, Arnold Palmer iced tea, lemonade. Mix it.

[Zach Hyman]

I'm missing a nap for this.

[Biz Nasty]

Streaming June 4th on Apple TV. Plus, golf season is in full swing and getting out there to work on your game is bound to make any day even better. And if you're looking to improve your drive, Chevy Equinox EV is the smartest choice you can make. Bold athletic styling, a commanding presence, award winning tech and impressive range, all with an affordable msrp Chevy Equinox EV will put a smile on your face no matter how your scorecard shakes out.

[Keith Yandle]

Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is Barstool Sports.

[Whitney]

Our white whale, Sidney Crosby. Shave his head. Shave his head. Shave his head. Ryan Whitney Paul Vicinette RA Mike Grinelli Spittin Chick Flick Florida Foreign what is up folks? Welcome to episode 566 of the Spitting Chicklets podcast and we are getting ready for an epic rematch in the Stanley Cup Final. My Edmonton Oilers vs Keith Dirtbag Florida Panthers. Just an incredible series. We have lined up the third match rematch since I believe 83, 84 when Gretzky played the Islanders. But guys, it's Pink Whitney time. It's pink Whitney season. It's summertime, it's June and it's time to drink some pink wood. I'm over in Nantucka right now. I see kids drinking it over here. I swear to God I see the new label. Everyone go check it out. It pops. It pops in the aisle now. The new label looks better than ever. I think they might have taken off. What a legend. Which was kind of ridiculous that was on there to begin with considering it's named after me. But go check out the new label. Go check out all the sizes. Enjoy yourself a nice fresh pink Whitney while watching the Stanley cup final in mid June, which is crazy. We can maybe get into that but, guys, what is going on? Never a doubt, right, Biz? Never a doubt that the Oilers would get back.

[Biz Nasty]

Buddy, congratulations. I mean, from being down.02 against the LA Kings to right now, it feels like this team's flipped the switch. But, I mean, all credit goes to you. And being the hardcore fan that you are, congrats getting Big Cat on the train as well.

[Whitney]

No, no, no, he's not. He's a liar.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, he's trying to reverse mush.

[Whitney]

He said. He said. And I don't know if it was during a recording, one of our streams or another time maybe when the stream had ended and we were still talking, like, I want McDavid to lose, but I want him to lose in heartbreaking fashion. Like, he was rooting. He was rooting for them against Dallas because he wants him to lose in the final. Like, he's a seriously deranged.

[Biz Nasty]

What a. I know he should. We ban him from the podcast. I mean, Yans is loving it right now because his Florida Panthers are just licking their chops and trying to go back to back now. Also, I saw that Dave Portnoy bet a large amount on the Oilers to win in six games. Is he also trying to do the same thing as Big Cat?

[Whitney]

No, I think he just wants to win money. And I would be just disgusted that he decided to bet Edmonton. Like. But he's had this kind of incredible success with future bets. I mean, not maybe very recently, but he had futures. I mean, what were his big futures that I can't think of?

[Biz Nasty]

Scotty Scheffler winning the Masters. Yeah, I think he had the. The people winning the NCAA basketball Celtics last season, maybe.

[Whitney]

Maybe Michigan winning it all. I don't. Either way, as a guy who's. Who's hit a bunch of futures, I'll take it. Now he loses his no matter what if the Oilers don't win in six. So I don't. I mean, I. This is going seven. This is going seven, guys.

[Biz Nasty]

Wow.

[Whitney]

No doubt in my mind, but I. I am just so excited going in to see this rematch because I'll say. And we'll get into how the series wrapped up. A bunch of drama, especially coming from some handshake line drama, some goalie pulling drama in the west, but these are the two best teams by a mile in the NHL. And it's. It's become quite evident throughout the playoffs and in the regular season. You couldn't say this. Obviously, neither team won their division, but. But they are the two best teams. And to see that Florida is able to get back to a Cup Final for the third year in a row and that Edmonton was able to grind through a bizarre regular season and then dominate the playoffs. It's just a great, great story. And even forget being an Oilers fan. I think if you're a hockey fan, you got to be fired up now. Maybe some people say the markets aren't great. I don't care if you like hockey, dude. You're about to watch something legendary.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. And I think the fact that we get a rematch and also just like the whole Four nations thing, Canada versus US. Canada hasn't had a Cup in over 30 years, like, adds a little bit of extra spice, in my opinion, to it. And just going back to this kind of like, in my opinion, a bit of an improbable run by Edmonton where like the, the. The. The team and how it looks is complete a lot different from the start of the year. And also going back to last year's Stanley Cup Final, like adding Walman, Klingberg, Frederick, like, how many different guys up front, the fact that Kane didn't play in the entire regular season and how he's looked. I'm sure they're going to have Jeff Skinner in the lineup at some point here. Having finally scored his first NHL playoff goal. He played over a thousand NHL games regular season to finally get his first playoff goal. So kind of just like, like you can't. You couldn't have been as confident to get back to the final. The. The first game of playoffs as maybe as you were last year, buddy.

[Whitney]

First after the first game of the playoffs. I mean, talk about the second game of the playoffs. At least the first one they charged back and then blew it the last shift. And then you're like, all right, well, at least they showed how they can really turn it on in the third against la. Then they get drummed game, too. That's when it's like, all right, maybe this year it's just like, if you're an Oilers fan, you cannot sit there and tell me after game two in LA that you had any confidence whatsoever of them, like making.

[Biz Nasty]

Not like we're losing. McDavid.

[Whitney]

That was you. I think you said, this is it.

[Keith Yandle]

You never panicked. You never panicked too hard. You weren't like, you know, a typical. You know, maybe Biz would have panicked if his Leafs went down too old. But like you. You called it how it was. You stuck with the. Your. Your crew. And I, I don't think. Unless I. My memory isn't. Isn't right. But I don't remember you kind of panicking too much.

[Whitney]

I think that I was completely panicked on the inside. Right. But I did a good job of, you know, it's being a leader and it's showing up. And, you know, if you remember when I was on the Oilers and I was carrying that team around on my back and we were winning games, like, you have to lead from the front. So I'm not going to show panic. Inside I was nervous. Inside I was nervous. Now I'll remember. I'll go back to them. Them. After game two, our group chat, I believe Jeff D. Jeff Jacobson biz brought up McDavid's gone. Jeff Jacobson talked about the complete destruction of the ice district in Edmonton that was tied to McDavid and the Oilers. And now he's going to leave. And boom, you know what happened? They've gone 12 and 2 since and they're rolling into the Stanley Cup Final. Now do we want to go back to the other two series or do we want.

[Biz Nasty]

We will.

[Whitney]

We will.

[Biz Nasty]

I feel like we gave a little bit of a double wrist or the two teams that have made it and then go back to a little bit of the chaos and what might be a potential coaching firing. The guy who's been in the conference finals, the Western Conference finals, I believe, like the last six or seven years or six of the last seven years. So incredible run for DeBoer, but definitely some drama on the Dallas Stars end. But before we get there, like Yan's, like, I'm sure there was no question that you thought that Florida was going to get back to the dance, especially with the pickups they had. And it's just remarkable they're able to play that much hockey in the last three years. You go from getting that eight seed from Walt Tkachuk, firing up the squad on a. On a Canadian road trip before they play Toronto, to all of a sudden knocking off the President's cup champs or President's Trophy champs, excuse me, in the Boston Bruins, and then, boom, rattle off this many series win in a row.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, I think going into playoffs, like, the only thing that scared me a little bit with this group is the amount of hockey that they've played. And, you know, we all know how hard playoff hockey is. It's two games per every one. Right. And these guys have played a ton of meaningful games, a ton of hard games. You know, the core guys have been there the entire time. Bob's played a ton of hockey. But I honestly think these sickos love it so much, they just want to Be in, like, they probably don't even enjoy playing, you know, regular season games where it's kind of just like, you know, PA games I used to call them. You just go around, you hit a guy, you know, it's a back to back and. But these guys, like, they want to play games where you're getting punched in the face, you're getting cross checked from behind. That's when they really, you know, come to who they are and not shocked by it a little bit. I'll tell you what, though. Tampa scared me a little bit in the. The first series. I don't know if it's just because so many people had them winning or whatnot. I mean, once the. The puck dropped, it was kind of evident who was the better team. But, yeah, not surprised, really. Just especially with the pickups, right? Like Brad Marchant, like, unbelievable pickup. But the biggest one for me has been Seth Jones, especially with, you know, Ecky missing some time at the end of the year and him just being able to, you know, hold them afloat on the back end. And then, you know, you know, marches came into that third line and made them probably one of the best lines in the NHL right now. And they're, you know, the Florida Panthers third line. So unbelievable moves by, you know, Zito and his crew of getting guys over and. Yeah, this. This series, it stinks that it feels like it's a month away from even now, but it's. It's. I'm so excited for it. Biz, I'm sure you're excited to get back on the panel and talk some hockey, but we need to get this started.

[Biz Nasty]

Biz, I've heard like, crazy predictions all the way from, like, Florida and five to somebody who predicted Oilers and four where that would be. I would be. My jaw would drop. Yeah, I just saw your face, Yance. I couldn't believe the text when it came through. I'm not gonna say it on air, but I will. I will. I will shoot you a text while we're recording the show because I want to see your live reaction. But before we hop into everything, I just want to let you guys know I'll be playing through something in the finals. Not. Not everybody's going in healthy. Really?

[Whitney]

Nobody?

[Biz Nasty]

No, not that. For the first time in my life, once I hit 40, I. I've gotten gout.

[Keith Yandle]

Wow. Congrats. I don't know that means you're in an upper tax bracket.

[Whitney]

That's called. I think it's the. Is it the King's disease? King's Disease. You know, you drink, but you don't drink. It's the red meat.

[Biz Nasty]

It's the red meat.

[Keith Yandle]

How much sugar are you eating?

[Biz Nasty]

I usually like when we're doing the panel, when we go in there, I usually just do a couple steaks every night. Like, I, I, I don't.

[Whitney]

A couple.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, I do, I do an 8 ounce at the start of the night and then I do a 12 ounce, like towards the end of the night. Like we're there for, for seven hours, right? We're there for usually two games. Like when we do the, the one gamers. I'm only doing one steak. Why are you laughing?

[Whitney]

I, I think everyone's in a night. I think everyone's laughing.

[Biz Nasty]

Really?

[Whitney]

You're so. Yeah. I've been on road trips with you where we go to dinner five nights in a row and you hammer steak every night and it's like, I don't think this is that normal. And just based on your reaction of you thinking it completely normal, I mean, you're just describing you're eating 20 ounces of steak seven, eight nights in a row.

[Keith Yandle]

So at, at 10:30, 11:00 clock at night.

[Whitney]

Him just saying, yeah, a couple of steaks each night. I, I think it's like maybe a steak and then people probably look to take four or five days before another steak. But you were banging two steaks and then 24 hours banging two steaks again, and then 24 hours later banging two steaks again.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, it's a lot of red meat, I guess, right?

[Whitney]

I think it's probably sodium. Is it salt in?

[Keith Yandle]

Unless you're a lion, you shouldn't be eating that much meat.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, I, so it's funny because.

[Whitney]

Does it hurt you?

[Biz Nasty]

So Liam McHugh would like see me doing this and about halfway through playoffs he goes, have you ever gotten gout biz? And I'm like, no. What's that? Like, kind of like, like, what do you mean? Like the, the rich man's disease. And he's like, yeah, like he, he's like, yeah, like you're eating steak every night. I'm like, no, I, I usually just go grab a salad and I, I do little to no meat. Like usually I do maybe I do a little bit of chicken or just keep it full veggie in the afternoon. And then I just wait tonight to get like my, my protein fix like that. And I don't typically eat a ton of carbs. I just like try not, try not to crash because we got carbs. Yeah, well, I'll have like a baked potato throughout the course of. So.

[Keith Yandle]

So have steak fries.

[Biz Nasty]

So I get. I get home, I got. Finally we get to come home. I. They take the shackle off me and allow. Allowed to leave the. The desk at tnt and I. I thought it. Maybe I had a stress fracture in my foot. I've never been in so much pain in my life. I couldn't even walk on it. I'm like, ah, ah. So I called the doctor, the Dr. Liberto who we had in Arizona and pictures. And he goes, have you ever had gout before? And I'm like, nah. And he goes, I think you have gout. So he called me in some medication and obviously, if you could see it right now, like, it's pretty.

[Whitney]

Whoa.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, it's pretty.

[Keith Yandle]

You just had a cow hoof.

[Biz Nasty]

And that's compared to like, if. If you see this side, like, not. You could see all the bones and.

[Whitney]

Yeah, I mean that your foot looks like one of the two steaks you ate every night.

[Biz Nasty]

So I gotta cut down on the red meat or you can get a better look at it there. Like a fat.

[Whitney]

That is Buddy. So that thing. So Mike Commodore, he's been getting goat for a long time. And. And he would tell me because I was like, what is it? He's like, oh, yeah, it's too much red meat, too much red wine. And then I said, oh, what's it like? He's like, buddy, it's some of the worst pain I've ever been in. And this is a guy who battled through the NHL being a physical monster his entire career. And I was like, really? He's like, I can't even walk on it when it hits. But I didn't know it got that swollen. Can you even get a shoe on?

[Biz Nasty]

I can, but it's. It's pretty painful. So I'll be battling through that the next couple days to be ready to go for. For Stanley cup finals. I'll probably be maybe in a walking boot going up to the panel and Edmonton, but shout out to Liam McHugh for giving me the heads up and being like, hey, buddy, I think you should back off some of the red meat. But that's one thing. Like, I know you laugh all the time about, like, the fitness and this and that, but this summer I gotta dial in the diet, like, figure out exactly what I should be taking in at my age so I don't end up getting.

[Whitney]

I think your diet's great. I think it's just you. You can't have two steaks A night.

[Keith Yandle]

No, you definitely can't.

[Whitney]

I think he's frozen. I need to. Now I have 46 ounces of steak every night. Go Leafs, go. They eat steak. That's what's holding us back.

[Biz Nasty]

Dude.

[Whitney]

Wendell Clark had steak eight nights a week. Oh, wait, sorry. Seven nights a week. There's only seven days in a week. But he ate so many steaks. And he's my idol. Go, lease, go.

[Keith Yandle]

And you know, he's getting a steak or like steak on his salad too. That him saying he gets all veggies sometimes. We've all been. I've never seen him eat all veggies. He is a protein monster.

[Whitney]

Crazy amounts of protein, which I did kind of learn through him, is like, pretty necessary. I didn't realize how much protein you're supposed to be having. But I remember the first time or one of the first times Merles was on one of our trips, we had a lunch, right? And like he got a 12 ounce New York strip at lunch with a baked potato and Merle's like, whoa. Like, kind of like we all got sandwiches and then at night he, he ended up getting like a ribeye. And Merle's is like, you double steak. He's like, I eat steak all day, every day. And, and I think Merle's was like, that's so fucked up. But I was just like, oh, that's what biz does. Like, this is what makes him so strong. So, I mean, looking back.

[Biz Nasty]

Now, my Internet won't work. Nothing's going right for me right now.

[Keith Yandle]

Your Internet has goat biz, I think. I think once you get it once too, like, it's there forever. Like, obviously you can, you know, manage it, but like, once you have a. If you're doing a double steak night, like, your fucking hooves are gonna be barking again.

[Biz Nasty]

I think you can get, get gout in different areas of your body. This one just hit my, my right ankle. My left side's fine, so it's weird how it'll just hit one area, but either way, we don't need to keep talking about my, my playoff injury and what I'll be battling through come Stanley cup playoff playoffs.

[Whitney]

That's impressive though. You should throw the walking boot on for the, for just, just to show what you've. You're going through to remind the viewers at home, like, it's not just the players battling through injury.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm going to be scrapping in, in the ice district too. After the first two games, I got a couple brawls lined up. Public appearances.

[Whitney]

Speaking of Injuries. Just such a kick in the dick about Zach Hyman.

[Zach Hyman]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

And I feel so bad for the guy based on, like, how he plays and what he means to that team. And you kind of remember or you forgot about the Amazon series that had come out that had followed everyone last year. That was incredible. And, you know, the episode or two episodes around the Stanley cup final was with McDavid flipping out after game two and Hyman after game seven, where it's just a bunch of Oilers are heartbroken. And he's talking about, like, we will be back. And, you know, you have somebody say that at the time, and I don't doubt that he. He really, truly believed it. But you. You know, it's just like, what else are you going to say? You just lost. Well, he calls it, and then he gets just run over by Marchman. And you knew right away, guys, you could tell it was either shoulder, wrist, or elbow, but you knew it was something where he's. He's done. You see a player get hit like that and just immediately go down the tunnel, like, can barely hold their side or arm or. And I was like, oh, no, oh, no. And then it comes out. Surgery out for the season. But he had been playing. He hadn't been scoring. Early on, he turns into this maniac, running around, hitting everyone. Then the goal scoring started picking up. He had two goals. And what was that? Game three. My. My mind's. It feels like a month ago they had the Dallas series, but incredible, enormous loss for the Oilers. And at the same time, they get ekom back. So at least it's a little bit of like, we're not getting completely hosed here. Different positions. I know, but in terms of leadership in the locker room, very similar. A veteran, an enormous presence. So just feel bad for Zach Hyman. And in terms of your team, Keith, sounds like everyone will be okay. Loose to Ryan and left game five, but everyone seems to think he'll be all right. I believe you said he was caught by a spotter. And then Reinhardt is good to go. And so what. Are there any injury concerns on your side or just kind of lose.

[Biz Nasty]

Looked like maybe it was like an AC joint separation of the shoulder, like, maybe like a grip. Grade one, Grade two, he went in pretty hard, and he's a big guy. Are you hearing anything?

[Keith Yandle]

No, I. I mean, I haven't really asked around. That's what it looked like. And, you know, I got a middle school education, so I thought it was an AC joint from my professional background, but I. I was shocked that him and Reinhardt played in that in, in the last game against Carolina just because it was like, okay, let's maybe try to win one more without them. And then if, you know, they need to battle. But, like, I think these few days of rest have really helped. I was actually really shocked that they were back. I thought they were going to have to start even this next series without him. Reinhardt's look bad, Mikaela's look bad. Like Biz said, just like a big body going in at that weird angle. I just thought, like, his, you know, all the hockey guys have the raptor shoulder with the AC joint, so. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. And I thought he was gonna, he was gonna have that. And it's brutal. Like, like, especially when you're playing.

[Whitney]

Yeah, yeah. That just got it on both sides kind of, but worse on there.

[Keith Yandle]

That's goat.

[Whitney]

Sorry, that's the goat of the shoulder blade.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Actually that's sticking out of his bicep.

[Keith Yandle]

For those of you watching. Biz was showing off his AC joints, which I'd say a lot of, I'd say 80% of NHL players have those AC joints popping out just from taking hits over the years. But, yeah, shocked that those guys came back. Obviously, you need them to be healthy. You need them to play well. Mikaela, who's been arguably their best defenseman this playoffs, like, if you don't have him going into this series, especially against whether he's going to have McDavid or dry Seidl, like, you need him. And it's obviously huge that he got that game in. I don't think he looked 100% in that last game against Carolina, but, you know, with these days of rest and getting them ready, you know, knowing their trainers and all the trainers in the NHL, but Florida especially, amazing trainers there, so they'll, they'll have those guys back ready to go.

[Whitney]

And I mean, Reinhardt, you're right, like, and that that series had been such madness and the way they went after Ajo, after the hit that he put on Reinhardt, but I was like, oh, Reinhardt really might have torn his mcl getting hit from the side like that. Biz, I know you had had that injury and I've had every injury now.

[Biz Nasty]

Now that I've had gout.

[Keith Yandle]

That was your last one.

[Whitney]

Very true. No, not qualify this one. Just the goat. But I thought Reinhardt might have been fucked on that. And then Keith, you're right. I, I, I figured, wow, hold him out. If somehow this goes six and they can't get the victory in game five, then you put them back in then. But no, I mean, and in that game, guys, Carolina gets out to a 2 nothing lead. I was kind of like, oh, shit. I think this thing's going. I think this thing's going back to Florida. And then can they get it back to Carolina for game seven? And Florida just took that game over. I think that the past Barkov made and, and, and I think that play got the group chat going. Not just our Chicklets group chat, but ours at home. Keith like, bark off might be right after McDavid and I think Leon's right there. But it's not as far off as people realize. And after this is the third year to the finals, I think everyone's like, all right, this guy is just so much better than the world, like knew about or thought he was a couple years back. Now doing it in the playoffs. The way he does it and that pass and just bitching Orlov in the corner. And then I don't know who he made go behind that like Robinson chase. Oh my God. And then to not only just pass it, he lays it out to where Verhe has to go get it. It was just a. One of the plays of the playoffs.

[Biz Nasty]

It. It almost like baited Verhagi to come out. It's like come out from behind the net.

[Keith Yandle]

Yes. Leave a little at the perfect speed. He put it at the perfect speed for him. Like I said it on the live stream. Like, you know, guys, you talk about some players like, oh, he makes players better. Barky is that guy. Like, he put that puck only where he made Verhegi go get it to score a goal. The back door tapping it was. It showed off his skill, his patience, his, you know, his vision, his unselfishness and, you know, his, you know, he dumped the punk puck in originally, right. And got it or did he hold on to it?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, so, yeah, it was, it was a given goal in the neutral zone. It was actually started out in the D zone by Bobrovsky, who made a great overpass on his backhand like there was. He didn't really have much time with it either. And it was a great little one touch and they transitioned so fast and. And then he goes on that give and go, goes down the ice and takes Orlov on a little trip around the net and then just leaves him in the dust. And yeah, I would say a tough series for Orlov. Overall, I think he's hitting free agency this summer, but, you know, let's hope it doesn't take any money out of his pocket. The fact that I thought he responded well in game four, Game three was an absolute nightmare as well. But yeah, it was, it was tough sledding for the Carolina Hurricanes and probably a lot of frustration from Rod the bod given the fact you talked about it. They're up that two nothing lead. They're playing great. It seems like they'd established their game coming off that game for victory. You bring it back home, you got the crowd into it and then boom, all of a sudden off the rails. That's the thing about Carolina and not having those, those quote unquote superstars we talk about. It seems like if they let their guard down for one second it's boom, pucks in the back of their net. It felt like that way the year prior against the New York Rangers where they were able to expose that and then obviously again with, with Florida. So yeah, I don't know, I don't know if you guys wanted to get into the, the kind of the handshake line nonsense like what, what, what would happen there.

[Whitney]

One of the crazier, most bizarre times for a coach to like make this, I don't know, statement like it. First off, let's go back to the, the some of the audio that came out of Maurice miked up on the bench. It's some great, it's like pretty good content. Like how he's talking to Florida throughout the game and and then he's kind of talking about right before Chuck's goal that made it two 1. The nice tippy had. He's like Chucky's in his spot. Chucky's in his spot. Like almost narrating how they play and how they need to play and how he talks to the team. And he's mentioned before like he doesn't even really have to call out the lines. Like they're just a machine. They're a well oiled machine. But after the game, now mind you, Paul, Maurice has, he's gone through the handshake line many, many times in his career. Before post playoff series, the coaches, they go out and they meet in front of the benches and then they go and they have the second meet. Biz you kind of brought up like maybe two meetings isn't necessary. Maybe you don't do the first one. But that's just the coaches as the teams are talking to each other. But nonetheless he meets Brindamore and decides to say not only am I not going to go through the handshake line, but I don't think you should go through the handshake line now, buddy. What a power move that is. Like, that is like I don't. What is a good analogy? Like you just dummied him in five, you dummied him in four, two years prior. Like this guy, if anything you want to just be like hey, good series man. Like just try to be cordial and, and, and good game sportsmanship. No, it's like I'm gonna tell you what to do after I just dummied you. And it's to me like no wonder Brenda Brendamore was probably fuming.

[Keith Yandle]

Like oh, he slept that night.

[Whitney]

Oh like he probably wanted to attack.

[Biz Nasty]

That vein on his forehead. Doubled it, split the vein on his forehead. Got gout after that comment.

[Whitney]

And, and, and I think that Brindamore, you know, right when the camera panted them we were texting what's going on there? Like because nobody has. What are they arguing about then you're just waiting to find out. Well, it comes out that Maurice doesn't think coaches should shake teams hands when, when buddy, you've been doing it your whole career and he says like after, like it's just for the players. It's just for the players. Like I don't think that's like completely wrong. Like the players were out there battling. But I said on one of our streams as a player, you finish a playoff series and it's a hard fought battle and it is everyone, it is the coaching staff, it is the training staff, it is all these guys who make up the team. It's not just the players. Yes, they're out on the ice battling but the treatment and the game planning and everything. It's like I respected and enjoyed shaking the other teams, the other coaches hands and it was just a crazy time to bring it up. Like almost if you're going to do that, you have to say it to him before the series maybe or something. But if you lose and then have the coach who beat you for the second time in two years to go to the Stanley cup final then tell you what to do, you have a right to basically grab a stick, break it in half and try to stab him in the jugular. He could have done that, not got in trouble.

[Biz Nasty]

I don't think he's like, hey, we're not going to shake hands. You're not going to shake hands. And I'm changing your neutral zone breakout from now on. Next, next training camp, I'm going to email you over what I want you guys doing.

[Whitney]

And listen, my, my lake house. We need a new Doc, Bill. And you're going to come over after you don't shake my players hands and you're going to build that dock and you're going to shut your mouth and then we'll see in the Eastern Conference finals next year. Maybe we'll get to six. See you later. Rod. Rod, I mean, poor guy.

[Keith Yandle]

My thing is, I bet first series, maybe he wanted to do it, but him and Coop had a little bit of beef. Member.

[Biz Nasty]

No, they did. They did shake. I saw that. That's what I'm saying.

[Keith Yandle]

But maybe, but maybe he wanted to do it in the first round, but him and, him and Coop had that beef going on, so he didn't want to bring it to him. Then. Then the second round, you can't ask chief to do something because he'll punch your head in. And then the third one because Rod played for Maurice.

[Biz Nasty]

Right, I know, but Maurice seems like such a smart guy that he'd be like, I did it the first two rounds. This would be a really weird time for me to bring this up. Unless. Unless like something that Rod did throughout the series that really pissed him off. Maybe it was a ho go. Maybe it was fetch bumping Bobrovsky early on. Like, maybe it was like he was like, you know what? I'm not going to shake this motherfucker. Hand in the line shake. I don't know. There has to be something that made him do that because it seems like he's on top of absolutely everything or he's just fucking with everybody. Because with these press conferences doing like, it's becoming more and more animated with like, like from, like if you're, you're going against them now.

[Whitney]

So I knew, you know, they're going. When they closed that out, he pulled this handshake stunt. No, we're not going to shake hands. Like, I'm going to tell you what to do. I knew Edmonton was going to get through. I didn't know it would be in five. But it's like, all right, we're facing them again. And I'm sick and tired of Paul Maurice. Now let me get ahead of this. Third all time in NHL wins a complete legendary coach in the game of hockey. And the guy can talk with the best of them. And he gives press conferences that are entertaining and he gives quotes that reporters love. And he's, he's reached another level in terms of like not making content. I know that sounds insane.

[Biz Nasty]

He's reached John Cooper status, but even.

[Whitney]

More so like, yeah, you're right, you're right. But even More so where. Listen, everyone is talking to me so often because of all these playoff series we win year and year and year after year. I'm sick and tired of it. And maybe if the Oilers weren't about to play him, I really wouldn't care, but I'm dreading, dreading a Panthers win in game one. And then Maurice up there with his, like, monotone voice as he's sitting there making the reporters laugh, talking about how his team will shotgun a beer, and then they'll show up to the library to read a book, and then they'll stab the goalie in the back of the neck as they're trying to just draw.

[Keith Yandle]

I'll be. I'll be st. Be Maurice. I'll be Stoff. You be Maurice. Hey, Coach, you know, what did you think about that game one loss? I know. You know, Skinner gave up 10 and, you know, anything you need to see from your group?

[Whitney]

Am I Maurice?

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

And we just won.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

You won 10. Nothing.

[Biz Nasty]

And Skinner gave up 10.

[Whitney]

Yeah. You know, I just had. I can't do his accent, but, you know, you know, Barky's playing great. Reinhardt, Rhino's out there. You know, we. We know. We know what we need to do is this team. This team's been around, you know, guys, We've been around a long time, guys. We've just been doing this and doing this in this group. I trust this group. And, you know, we're on the bench and we're just. We just know. We just know what we can bring. We know what each line brings. Listen, I'll tell you right now. When I was coaching and Junior B, when I was 12 years old, you know, I saw. I saw guys, and they knew how to win in the playoffs. And listen, like, you know, Edmonton, they'll come back stronger tomorrow, but so will we. So will we. You know, we know what to bring. I just. I don't know.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm not.

[Whitney]

I'm not as well spoken as him. I'm not. I'm trying to think. He's. He's very good.

[Biz Nasty]

I was hoping for an anal.

[Whitney]

A crazy analogy, because I can't think of it, because he. That. But that's the thing about him. He is so good at his job. And when I say content, like, he knows he's creating conversations and he knows he's saying things that are going to make reporters and fans laugh, but I'm sick of it. And this is just who we are.

[Biz Nasty]

You know, who could play him as a head coach in a movie? Matthew McConaughey.

[Whitney]

Yeah, yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

You know, just like the way that they talk.

[Whitney]

Somebody else go listen to the way.

[Biz Nasty]

That Matthew McConaughey narrated his own owners book that he released.

[Whitney]

Me trying to sound like Paul Maurice is so unfair. That guy's IQ compared to mine. It's like the guy is, he's an excellent coach and an excellent quote. All I'm saying is my team going back to back against him in a rematch, I'm sick of and I'm sick and tired of him. And I actually think if, if the Oilers pull out this, this cup win, he would be so gracious. I believe as a coach of like a losing team, like I think he, I mean, he was when they lost to Vegas and they had nobody healthy. And he's just, I can't get him off my tv. There has to be other fans that are sick of him because they just keep winning. And then their team, your team, Keith, is just so hateable. These fucking Panthers, I, I, I respect them. They're, they're, they're a phenomenal hockey team. I fucking hate them. I can't stand them. I want them to lose so much badly. I don't want to see them win again. I need the Oilers to win this, this, this series. To me, I am like stressed out going in because one, I want Connor McDavid in the oil in the city of Edmonton to win a Stanley Cup. Like I, since this kid came into the league, watching him, I've never had more fun watching hockey than watching Connor McDavid. And if he has to lose to the goddamn Florida Panthers in back to back years and the fucking rats coming down on the ice and Maurice's quotes and the fucking noise and Keith banging the drum, I can't picture, I can't stand it. I can't stand the thought of it. I need the Oilers to end up beating this team and ending this Florida Panthers dominance. I have to.

[Keith Yandle]

But as, as a guy who grew up in, you know, Boston and you root for the Patriots, you see them dominating over the years. And even Belichick remember his like press conferences, you would have if you weren't a fan of their team, you hated them. And I think Wits got a little bit of this in his blood right now. He's, he's, he's like every other NFL team when the Patriots were winning now.

[Whitney]

So it's, and it gets even worse when your team's playing them. Then it becomes even more where you're just like, I can't picture now, guys, I think, I think that this series is going to be one for the. I think people picking either team in four or five are crazy. I can't see how that would happen. I mean, the only worry when I talk about Florida and talking to people leading up to this final, like they talk about how they're, they're lunatics, they're animals and like the way they bully teams and beat teams up, like, that's actually not what scares me. Bob is what scares me. Because when Bob gets in these, these grooves, I don't think you can beat him. We've seen it now. We also have seen times where he does kind of like lose it a little bit. Right? Like think of Games 4, 5 and 6 against Edmonton last year. Like all of a sudden he had to reset the two days off for game seven. But at the beginning of the series, game one of the Stanley cup finals last year, it was one of Edmonton's best game of the entire playoff and they got bobbed. So I'm petrified of that guy just showing up and just stealing the series. That's my number one concern.

[Biz Nasty]

Do you believe Mauricians when he said that he feels like both teams have improved Edmonton more so defensively? He said that Florida, his own team has been better. Like gotten better defensively but also improved more consistent consistently offensively as well.

[Keith Yandle]

I, yeah, I 100% agree. And I mean you look at both teams, I think last year it was the Connor McDavid show, right? Like he, he was on a different level. I think he had 40 points right in playoffs or something crazy like that where it's just stupid to wrap your head around and he's getting more help offensively. But I think defensively, especially when, when Skinner's played well, like they're dialed in like, you know, Nurse isn't making crazy plays. Bouchard's been really good defensively. Obviously getting at home backs only going to steady it even more. But even guys like stature, we talked about him on the stream like he was a guy who came in and looked like he's been there for 10 years. The way he's played just simple, hard. They're not trying to make crazy plays. Like I, even in the, the last game that they played, they tried to force a pass. I forget who the D was. Tried to force a pass to McDavid. The Dallas went down. It's like that was kind of their one. Like they didn't make a ton of mistakes like that. Trying to force things like they, they played a way more simple game. So I, I do Agree with that. Offensively, I think mostly just for Florida, he said offensively that they've gotten even better. And I think that that strictly comes from, you know, bringing over a guy like Marchie who's, you know, helped that third line be amazing. They're getting depth, scoring. You know, Greer has been great, Gazovich been great. So I think just all four lines for them have been humming. They're not just, you know, counting on Reinhardt, Chucky and Barky. It's kind of, it's getting sprinkled.

[Biz Nasty]

All right.

[Keith Yandle]

I think Benny has the most goals for them right now in the, in the playoff.

[Biz Nasty]

I think, yeah, he's. I think he's analytically the best five on five player throughout playoffs so far.

[Whitney]

Yeah. And your whole third line, they all have 12 five on five points. That's, that's crazy, man.

[Biz Nasty]

And I feel like their third line was their best line throughout the first two rounds of playoffs. And then, and then la. And then everybody was talking about how Tkachuk was a little bit quiet in Round 2 against the Leafs and we knew that he was going to show up against Carolina, especially how they were able to, to kind of dictate down low around the goal line and specifically around the blue paint where, where I felt like that second line really elevated their play against Carolina. We talked about one coach's decision on the eastern side about the, not the handshake line. We got to talk about a big one in the Oilers Dallas series pulling Jake Ottinger after those first two goals. Pete DeBoer I tweeted out right away, I said it on. I think we were doing the live stream like this could potentially be a fireable offense. Losing your, your starting goaltender who has an eight year deal that kicks in next year. I thought it was ridiculous in the fact that both goals, it's like the C had parted the D1D goes over to one side, they go weak side to weak side and just basically two breakaways and yeah, maybe not the best of goals, but in that instance to pull your starter to me is insane because in the three games prior they'd score three goals or two goals. Excuse me, they got shut out three nothing the one game. So they'd only had two goals in the last three games. So definitely a lack of offense and no run support for Jake Ottinger. And then after that start you're going to yank him. And then after the game, the fact that he had like what he was going to say cocked up and loaded tell told me that he almost had like this premeditated idea before the game of if this goes a certain way, I'm yanking him where I don't know what he has against Jake Ottinger and maybe not thinking he can win the big one, but how about the rest of your fucking team showing up the three games prior? Like, how about that when he was standing on his head and giving you an opportunity to win? So I don't know, boys, I'll throw it over to you and what you have to say about it. But considering the market for coaches has been reset, where Sullivan, I think is making close to 7 million and you know, talk it got paid. What he got paid. Maybe he's thinking, hey, I'm going to get canned here and re up on a new deal.

[Whitney]

Yeah. He has one year left, I believe. As an Oilers fan watching the game, I was so happy he was pulling them. Like you're. You can't pull your guy at two nothing. Two nothing in the NHL these days. Seven minutes into the game, 52.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, 52 minutes left in the game.

[Whitney]

You're like at home, like you're now biz. What was crazy? Well, actually, before the post game, he calls the timeout, all right. And he's kind of talking to the team. And Ottinger obviously had skated over. And then. All right, guys, let's go. Boom. Timeouts over. Then Ottinger starts going back to the net. And it was almost like he either forgot to tell him right when he brought him in for the timeout, or he just like snapped. And he's like, no, hey, boom. And he kind of gave him like, you're crazy. You're done. And it was like an auditor's on the way back kind of. And then I. I watched as the Smith got onto the ice. You watched the handshake, right? And Ottinger gave him like, not blame. It was more just like, yeah, good luck. I think he was shocked. I think he had no clue what. What was just happen. He's getting taken out of the game. And then it pans over and Andrew standing sitting next to Ray Ferraro, give him a headset. Who is breaking down. Why he got pulled. Yeah, just one of the crazier scenes I. I've ever for for a star goalie. Now, here's the problem. Say DeBoer had decided to do that the way he did it. And the game ends and he goes in and he just says, listen, I'm trying to get a spark. Who knows what he could have said? But he decided to say. And he Says here, I didn't blame it all on Jake, but here we go. The reality is, if you go back to last year's playoffs, he's lost six of seven games to Edmonton. And we give up two goals on two shots in an elimination game.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, because your fucking defense imploded. He's like, that's a pretty big sample size. What about the three games prior you fucking like, I love DeBoer, but this is like this.

[Whitney]

And what about last year? And what about last year when Edmonton ended up just dominating on their penalty kill and your power play couldn't score and you lost the series to them in six? So yeah, I know he hasn't beaten the Oilers, but to blame him. And then after like a crazy pulling, bring him up and bring up his record, to me it's like, wow, like this. There's obviously some sort of disconnect between Ottinger and deboer. Right, right. And. And Andre did a hell of a job, I thought, in his post season, you know, wrap up with the media. He really kind of could have made it a lot worse. Biz, I think.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, definitely. It's probably nice that he had a few days to cool down. And I thought. I thought he spoke from the heart. He talked about how it was an embarrassing experience and I don't know if we're allowed to roll the full clip, But Elliot, on 32 Thoughts, said there was a lot of Dallas players that were upset by Deborah's comments, which leads me to believe that maybe an opportunity where they decide to let him go. You don't want to lose faith in your starting goaltender. Maybe since then DeBoer and Ottinger have been able to sit down and. And hash it out. But there's a lot more guys in, in my opinion to direct your. Your frustration towards because I if. But DeBoer doesn't do that and he doesn't say the things he says in post game. I don't think there's any reason to blame Deborah for that loss. I mean, Wyatt Johnson, young player, he had a couple great playoffs going back to last year and even the year before that. Like he set an NHL record for worse plus minus throughout the course of a run. Like he had a tough postseason. Did he make some big plays and did he have some clutch moments in that Colorado series and in the second round as well against Winnipeg? Absolutely. But he wasn't at his best. I think we can all agree. Like I really thought given that the, you know, father time is ticking for Jamie Ben, like I thought we Were going to see one of the best playoff performances we've ever seen from Jamie Ben against the Oilers. At least going down with a fight. I didn't see anything from him like mind you he just had a kiss first kid. Like I can understand sometimes when that happens. Like there's a lot coming at you from a personal life standpoint. So maybe there was like that was affecting him personally. But I mean are there other guys that you could direct your, your frustration towards that outside of Jake Ottinger? And mind you, like I just said, only allowed two goals in the course of three games or sorry, only got run support two goals over the course of three games in the three games prior.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, I think Duchenne, I, I, I want a little more from him maybe. And you know, you just never know what's going on with guys too. What, what they're battling.

[Whitney]

Robertson started heating up.

[Keith Yandle]

Robinson did as soon once Ludwig came on here and kind of you guys lit the, the spark under his ass. He was lights out. But yeah, you can't like too little too late again especially against that crew like you get you're down a couple games like it's going to be hard to come back against the Edmonton Oilers. Like they are just, they're a well oiled machine.

[Whitney]

You know I talked to a guy who used to play for Dallas and he was just like disgusted and shocked that they pulled him and his biggest thing was how like the way that if, if your team sees you panic like that as the coach, which it's quite obvious pulling your starter seven minutes into an elimination game at home, you're panicking because like we said to nothing buddy, this game is still completely alive for us. But the, the team sees him do that and then they're like what are we doing here? Like the Smith like how many times, how many playoff games has he played? It's just a crazy decision. And you know he also kind of said he doesn't know how to adjust. Like that's what he thought. Yeah, I, I, I just was very surprised that that series ended that quick and credit to Edmonton and how good they played but I thought there was going to be a lot more from Dallas. I really did. And I know that Heskin is coming back from injury. He's not really the same. The right side of their D isn't great. They, they don't even have like a ton of cap space. I don't think either. I think they're kind of in a little issue cap wise.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, Jamie Ben comes off the books. I Believe. But then a few like the rotten and deal kick in.

[Whitney]

Yeah, Johnson extension.

[Biz Nasty]

Wyatt Johnson will start making eight and a half, so things will get a little bit tight. And. Yeah, I just. It was just a crazy fallout, like.

[Keith Yandle]

The, like bringing in a backup goalie, like in the regular season. Whatever. It is what it is because that goalie's probably played in the last week, maybe five days in playoffs. Like, Casey De Smith hasn't seen action in over a month and a half. Like, he. He just gets practice shots every day. Like, Ottinger's been your guy. And. And I went. I. I do remember too, in the first series, you were like, okay, I got Dallas and Dallas, and in Colorado, they're gonna beat up on each other. As an Oilers fan, you're thinking, okay, they're gonna beat up on each other. Then they get Winnipeg. That's a gauntlet of a series, too. So it's like they kind of had a. They had a really tough road and maybe they were just done, like, physically, mentally like that first series. Winning that first series is like, holy shit. Like, kind of. Everyone was like, oh, my God, how did they even win that? And then you go and beat the President's Trophy winner where your goalie stands on his head against the guy that he's fighting for the net for in Olympics. So maybe they were just physically ment.

[Biz Nasty]

I. I agree with you and that Central is a fucking wagon, man. They had to be both those teams. It takes a. It takes a lot out of you. And yeah, I tend to lean towards that. But, like, not taking anything away from Edmonton either, though. Like, la tough series. And then to. To dismantle the Vegas Gold Knights the way they did. That's the one advantage I like for. For Edmonton and the fact that they were able to win their last two series in 10 games. Pretty. Pretty impressive.

[Whitney]

G. Saying here that they. They only have $5 million in projected cap space for next season. They got to sign Ben Duchene, Granlin, Blackwell, the Donov, Maverick, Borks, and RFA G saying he thinks he'll get offer sheeted because of their cap issues. So kind of, that's a. I mean, that's a good, good amount of bodies there that they got to resign with not a lot of. Of money available. So, Yeah, I mean, DeBoer probably sees like, wow, third Western Conference file in a row. We're down to nothing. Seven games into game five, are about to get eliminated. Like, seeing all of this kind of come to an end, possibly. It's. It is. It is very surprising though you would have thought that Dallas would have. I mean, they got to that cup final in the bubble, right? Like that was against. That was Tampa's first cup, I believe. And then you kind of thought the way that they had prospects coming, that you'd see them competing for a couple other cups in the next few years. And they just ran into some wagons and the Oilers the last two and Vegas the year prior to that. So I don't know, we'll see what happens. But the two best teams are here. I think with that. I mean, we're very lucky that we were able to get Sam Reinhardt to join us on the pod. So I think we could chat with him a little bit about the run so far, his health. I'm sure he won't get into it, but what he's thinking going into the cup final. So let's throw it over right now to one of the best defensive and goal scoring forwards in the league, Sam Reinhardt. This episode is brought to you by Body Armor Sports Drink this summer cool off with Body Armor Chill, a bold new way to hydrate with no artificial dyes, flavors or sweeteners. I got the frozen berry sent to me. It's incredible tastes, amazing, awesome bottle and I'll tell you right now, there is no better way to get refreshed and a cooling sensation than the three icy flavors that they have. Frozen berry, frozen cherry and frozen orange. Available for only a limited time. Grab yours at 711 or a store near you. Body Armor Chill. They figured it out in a bold new way to hydrate with no artificial dyes, flavors or sweeteners. To go right now at a 711 or a store near you. What's up guys? Whit here and the NHL playoffs are almost over. We got the Stanley cup finals left. I can't believe it. And the only place to go buy hard to get playoff tickets. Stanley Cup Final tickets is Game Time, the official ticketing partner of Barstool Sports with killer last minute deals all in prices, views from your seat and their lowest price guaranteed. Game Time takes the guesswork out of buying NHL playoff tickets. Prices on the app actually go down the closer it gets to puck drop. You can save up to 60% when buying last minute tickets and I actually was looking for game three Florida Oilers in Florida. 400 bucks right now. I see some seats for so it's an amazing deal. 400 bucks for game three of the Stanley Cup Final right now on game time in Florida. What are you waiting for? I'm going to go buy those Tickets to game three right now and get my ass down to Florida. Take the guesswork out of buying NHL playoff tickets with Game time. Download the GameTime app, create an account and use code CHICKLETS for $20 off. Your first purchase terms apply again, create an account and redeem code chicklets for $20 off. Download the Gametime app today. What time is it? Game time. We welcome now very special guest, friend of the program, Stanley cup champ. Looking to do it again back to back four nations champ as well this year. Just keeps adding wins to his resume. Sam Reinhart. What's going on, buddy? Game winning goal of game seven last year. How you feeling? How you doing? And thanks for joining the show.

[Zach Hyman]

Very good. Yeah, thanks for having me. Nice to. Nice to still be here in June.

[Whitney]

I know, Seriously. So we were talking earlier this show about and Keith brought up how. How much you guys love playing. I think the clip came out of. Of Bennett on the bench maybe with you just saying like, oh, I wasn't ready to be done yet. Right. So it's become so addicting to you guys playing this late. That's got to be part of it. Like, I just don't want it to end. I love this team that much.

[Zach Hyman]

Well, for sure. I, yeah, I think I heard of the clip. I think it was with Verhege. But yeah, it's certainly a feeling we got in this room, you know, especially, you know, throughout the playoffs. There's going to be times when you're exhausted and, you know, you kind of got that mental and physical battle like, can you still keep going? But you know, and then you kind of snap out of it. So, you know, we feel like we've got energy right now. We're excited to still be playing.

[Biz Nasty]

You ever played through gel?

[Zach Hyman]

No, but I remember in junior I used to get those calluses on the big toe like you got there and it was the worst. Putting your skates on every day.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, yeah, I'm so he.

[Keith Yandle]

He told us he during the broadcast with TNT. He does 20 ounces of steak a night, so he's doing a 12 ounce and then an 8 ounce at midnight. So he clearly doesn't know the effects of eating that much red meat.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, you're part to blame for it, Rhino. I stress the. And fucking your Florida Panthers stressed me the fuck out.

[Whitney]

You got.

[Zach Hyman]

You got to get on my program. Don't cut out the red meat nights before games and you'll be good to go.

[Whitney]

Wow. So you're done with red meat night before?

[Zach Hyman]

Yeah, I just done it for. Done it for a long time. Just.

[Keith Yandle]

It's.

[Zach Hyman]

That's 80 to I guess now 100 stakes.

[Whitney]

What pregame meal is still just pasta?

[Zach Hyman]

Chicken cuddle pasta too this year.

[Whitney]

Well, Rhino, you had like 77 goals last year. I mean.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. What the.

[Whitney]

Why did you change a thing?

[Zach Hyman]

These 8 o' clock games started getting to me and I just had to eat more throughout the day. So I just kind of kept it going this year.

[Keith Yandle]

I think the old school eating a steak before a game is kind of like ended when you left the league with.

[Zach Hyman]

Oh, we still have it though, guys. Like I've never seen anyone but we still.

[Whitney]

I.

[Zach Hyman]

We probably waste about 30 fillets every game day, but maybe, maybe management comes in later and, and, and chomps it down.

[Whitney]

No, you know, someone's taking them home to them, they biz eats those steaks after you guys even overnighted.

[Biz Nasty]

Shut the up. Well, hey, that probably speaks to what your organization's about there in Florida. Always looking for that next edge. Like it feels like from like a recovery standpoint, it's clear you guys are doing something in order to have played this much hockey in the last three years, yet you guys are still firing on all cylinders. And the fact that you recovered from your injury in like two days.

[Zach Hyman]

Yeah, I think it starts individually having that drive and then, I mean you, you see all your best players.

[Whitney]

You.

[Zach Hyman]

Know, taking care of themselves and, and you know, like, like, like you guys said, it's pretty demanding to play this much hockey, but to be able to still feel good at this time of year is important. So, you know, I think it's pretty infectious for guys coming in. You know, it's almost contagious. That, that, that's, that's how you treat yourself, that's how you prepare. And then, I mean, we're given everything we need to, to be successful here from the organization. So it's a good combination.

[Keith Yandle]

Rhino heaven. You know, your dad played in the NHL, your brother yourself, but your dad played a lot of his career in Calgary. Like, was there some, you know, homegrown hate for Edmonton growing up? Because you know those Battle of Alberta, like those run deep.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, we're looking for a good spicy quote, so make sure you fire off.

[Zach Hyman]

Honestly. So we grew up in Vancouver. He finished there and he actually retired before we, before my oldest brother was born. But it just so happened at one point I was actually a Calgary flame growing up, or Calgary fan growing up. What? My other brother was a Vancouver fan and my oldest brother was actually an Atlanta fan. Just randomly and, and my dad played there for a year before going to Calgary, but. So, yeah, you know, I think, you know, my mom's from Calgary. Certainly that side of the family is, is. Is. Is happier when, you know, it's the Oilers were beating, so hopefully we can do it again.

[Whitney]

Obviously, first round, kind of shocking to most hockey fans. Five games against Tampa, everyone. A lot of people picked Tampa. A lot of people had it going seven. And then the conference final, it ends up being five. But that second round against the Leafs take us inside the room, you know, heading back home, down 02. Like after the second game ends. Shocking that people would see you guys in that situation. But was anything said? Was. Was it more we're going home, we're still fine. Like, what was the vibe like then?

[Zach Hyman]

Vibe was. Vibe was actually really good. The, you know, sometimes, sometimes it can be a little more stressful being up and you're trying to close it a series, the pressure kind of shifts. Certainly we've been on both ends of it, you know, in the past, as you guys saw last year, but we were very comfortable. We, we. We got outplayed in those first two games that we didn't like our game at all. You know, we're with, with our coaching staff, we're, we're as comfortable with any. That after a loss, they're going to get us right and they're going to make a couple tweaks. And I think, you know, there's a couple things that, that they pointed out that we've adjusted that we've been carrying over for the last couple weeks into the Carolina series and, and, and we're going to keep going forward with it. So we, we've always said here, it's the losses that, that ultimately how you handle those and, and, and how you approach those and how you come back from those is, is what, you know, separates you this time of year and, and, and we feel with, with our staff and, and how we go about things, we're one of the best at that. So, you know, it was kind of a good shift in that series and, and something we've carried over.

[Keith Yandle]

And that probably goes to show too, like you guys playing on the road, it never looks like you're the road team. It always looks like you guys are in control. I don't know if it's the coaches or just the way you guys play, but just going, even starting this series on the road, like, as a fan of you guys, it doesn't worry me at all because you guys bring the same exact intensity every game. You don't waver from the way that you want to play. Is that coming from, you know, Paul, or is it just within you guys?

[Zach Hyman]

Certainly, I think, I think it starts with everybody came in, you know, the, the, the, the messaging so clear. And then as, as you see yourself have success in those situations, it just, and go through certain things and have that experience, it just helps out that much more. No one's going to sit here and tell you that they don't want home ice. Everyone wants home ice. We would take home ice over, over the road, any given series. But I, I think there's, there's a factor to it that people don't realize as much that, you know, you go in on the road, you're, you know, it's, it's almost like holding serve. The, the pressure kind of shifts to that home team. You know, certainly in some markets it's harder than others that, that, you know, we always say tighter, better kind of, you know, going into the first, go to the second, tighter, better. You, you know, that pressure shifts on, on, on the home team that much more. And the more comfortable you could be in those situations, the better off you'll be. You know, at the end of the day, it's, it's, it's the same ice where we, we feel comfortable no matter where we are.

[Biz Nasty]

Rhino, what's up with this fucking Mikola guy? Like, he's just, and, and how did he get his nickname the Condor? It's crazy how, how he's been able to accelerate his game and all of a sudden he looks like fucking Bobby or out there.

[Zach Hyman]

It's crazy. So I, I attributed my hot start last year to Meeks. He came in and training camp just the way the lines worked. I always started against Meeks in, in drills. So we battled for, for two and a half weeks going into that. And he's such a competitive guy. He's, he's. I mean, I'm sure you guys see his personality a little bit, but he's such a funny guy, but, you know, he's such a competitor, one of the worst guys to go against in, in practice and, and certainly that translates to the game. So he's a gamer too. I mean, it's, it's big guys like that that can move, that can skate and, and can handle a puck that you don't want to play against at this time of year.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, how'd you, how do you get his nickname the Condor?

[Whitney]

He's seven feet tall.

[Keith Yandle]

Let's think this out.

[Zach Hyman]

I was, that's his Mo's nickname for him. In meetings he would. Because he, he just flies up the ice and through. Through the play sometimes and he's got the big Condor wings and he just comes through. So that's where that name came from.

[Biz Nasty]

What? What, what? Paul first dropped it. Were you guys just fucking dying?

[Zach Hyman]

Yeah, it's. It's one of the ones that stuck for sure.

[Whitney]

Everyone talks about the third line this year, right? Like that the two Fins and then you got Marshawn. It's incredible what they've done. But I look at the fourth line and Greer was in, in Calgary. No, Sick was in, in New Jersey. But Gadget was a part of your team, didn't play any playoff games. He is a nail gun. Like last year, could you even see like, wow, this guy could be in if we weren't so deep? Like I could see him being a big part of our team moving forward because for me I didn't know much about him and it's like, wow, like he was there last year, a lot of regular season games, but didn't even need him in the playoffs.

[Zach Hyman]

Yeah, I mean that's something we've learned over the years. Going through it against Vegas, just so depleted that something management, you know, obviously addressed had the depth last year. You know, those, those guys, those Three Nose or Gadge and, and Greer Z were, were so dominant near the end of the year and you know, they. Two of them didn't even start playoffs. I mean, you got Sturby coming, you got Sam awaiting who, who can, who could step in? So you need guys like that. I, I mean you're, you're talking about a third line. I mean there. They can be a first line any given night. And I don't think people realize that like, like you go back to a Toronto series or something and let's not do that.

[Biz Nasty]

Let's not do that.

[Whitney]

This guy's packing during the interview. That's what you did to him. You ruined the guy.

[Biz Nasty]

I have gout, bro. I've been sitting on my ass for two days. I thought I broke my foot, man. I'm battling, man, Stanley cup playoffs.

[Zach Hyman]

Yeah, but you know, people don't realize what it, you know, the stress it takes off some of your top guys having that, that any given night you don't need to produce. You know, you're going out against McDavid, dry side of Matthews Meyer, you don't need to, you might not need to, you know, cheat to offense because, because, because you know, someone's, someone's at the end of the day if you're going to win, someone's going to step up. So just to have options like that and, and, and guys jumping in at the right moments and, and, and producing, that's what you need.

[Biz Nasty]

Being a Canadian. What's like the most like white trash Florida thing you do now? Living in South Florida. What?

[Zach Hyman]

He said he was gonna talk. You can't even get a question in anymore.

[Keith Yandle]

Go back to packing Biz.

[Whitney]

Beat it, buddy. You know, Biz Rhino. This is how it works. He's flossing, right?

[Zach Hyman]

We got, we got a couple CDUs that unfortunately the battery dies this time of year a little bit too much.

[Whitney]

But of all the plays you've seen Barkov make that dish to Verhege at the end, like that had to be one of the best you've seen in your four years playing with them. Yeah, I mean it's, it's every night, huh?

[Zach Hyman]

It's, it's, yeah, it's. You, you see it more when you see teams that play man to man. I mean I, I go back to that New York series we played last year and they were a heavy man to man team. And I was almost just laughing in the ozone throughout that series. Just, I mean, you know, high F3 at the net or something and you're just watch kind of get a guy on his back and he's taking him for a ride. But you know those, those are the types of plays in, in those big moments that, that, that you need this time of year when you got someone like that that can do it all. It's, it's obviously important. Huge out.

[Keith Yandle]

What about Bob? Like, I mean he's great movie besides. Yeah, great movie. But beside, I mean the first two games against Toronto obviously wasn't his best. And then since then, it's just, just old school. Bob. What you used to see him, but like for a guy that sees him every day and I had the pleasure of playing with him, like he's doing this every single day, which people don't realize. Like he's one of the hardest working guys in that locker room. No, it's crazy.

[Zach Hyman]

And, and that's what you want out of your goalie. I mean he, he a lot of nights has to be your best player. You know, a bit of it's how we play in front of him. You know, when you look at Games 1 to 2 against Toronto, why he doesn't have the success he has.

[Whitney]

But.

[Zach Hyman]

It'S the timely saves. I mean we're such a tight gap team. We're going to give, we're going to give that chance eventually. And he's been in there when you, when you got him back there. You got that confidence to play such a tight gap game and take away some time and space, knowing that when there's a breakdown, he's going to be there for you. But the work ethic, like you said, that, that he has day to day is, is something you know, I've never seen before.

[Biz Nasty]

Should we have Pasha hop on and ask a question? Bring him in.

[Whitney]

Yeah, I got, I got a question.

[Ryan Whitney]

How you doing, Samson?

[Zach Hyman]

Like the tarp. Where are you?

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah, obviously.

[Zach Hyman]

Homer Street. Where are you right now?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah, Homer Street.

[Whitney]

Will you request a trade to the Devils? Well, no, speaking of, speaking of that.

[Zach Hyman]

Can you touch on Boquist? Because he's one player that I did.

[Ryan Whitney]

Not like to see leave New Jersey. I love his game and he's got five points in 11 playoff games. That's great production from a fourth line guy. Can you talk about what he's brought to the team?

[Zach Hyman]

I mean a fourth line guy steps in and, and plays first line when, when guys go out. He's, he's. Yep. Is what we call him down here. But we, we've been wondering all year kind of how he hasn't duck around with the team. I mean he's been so effective. He's so fast. He competes. I'm sure you guys remember the goal he scored the, the game winner in game three, he just slides by guys and. Slippery, very slippery. He really does it all. So that's another guy that can jump in and really play anywhere. So you know, when guys go out, like when I miss a couple games, you're, you're really not as concerned because you got, you got guys like him that step right in there and fill roles and can kind of do it all.

[Whitney]

Take us through. You get Seth Jones. Happened a little before the deadline and then deadline days ending and boom, it breaks. Brad Marchand, like all the battles you guys have had with him. The Bennett Marshawn incident like had to be kind of shocking. Had you heard rumblings it was a possibility? And if not like when that news broke, the team had to be fired up. Based on what he's done, the player he is.

[Zach Hyman]

Yeah, Jones. We had, we had heard there was a possibility low before. I mean he's, he's, he was at a spot where you can kind of control a little bit. So we knew there's probably only a couple teams he would have you. When you put a guy like him in, in, into Our system, it's. I mean, we're just licking our chops. We're saying we got this guy for another five, six years. He's a horse. There's no. There's no other way to. To describe him. He's such an animal. He can play 26 and. And. And probably play 32 if he really needed to. So you get guys in. In different situations, and they just excel and. And, you know, I think people kind of forget the type of player some guys are when they go to a different organization and. And. And they're in a new environment. So we're obviously thrilled to get a guy like him. And then. Yeah, like you said, it was. It was. I think you only had a day off. It was. It was an hour left in the trade deadline, and you. We started hearing the rumors, and then it was about another four hours went by, and we didn't know what was going on. I remember Chucky texted a couple of us telling us Lucy was. Lucy was going back the other way. And we were all devastated. We were all devastated. And gave Lucy a big hug. Barky had called me. I called Barky. I'm like, what's going on? We lost this guy. Like, just. Just so sad. That's something. Chucky was doing it because obviously he.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Zach Hyman]

With like, six or seven people that he said, like, someone asked who's it for? Is like, he put Lucy in a first or so. It was so funny.

[Ryan Whitney]

But.

[Whitney]

And that's how deranged he is.

[Zach Hyman]

Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So funny. But those. It was a tough couple hours. And then finally you realized, speaking of deranged people.

[Whitney]

But we.

[Biz Nasty]

Hey.

[Whitney]

You sent Lucy Ryland back to Boston. No problem. Great.

[Zach Hyman]

On cue.

[Ryan Whitney]

What?

[Zach Hyman]

I was just telling them about the loose, deeper Marshy trade.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

The deadline.

[Biz Nasty]

Hey, now it's your turn to torture.

[Keith Yandle]

You're a sick animal. Yeah, they were boys. I think that got back to.

[Ryan Whitney]

Sorry, my connection's a little rough.

[Keith Yandle]

I just want to come and say hi, boys. But, yeah, I'm happy that we can keep Marshy and. And didn't have to give up Lucy either.

[Whitney]

No.

[Ryan Whitney]

Just wanted to hop on, say hi, keep the tradition going.

[Whitney]

I knew you would. I don't. I don't necessarily love this. Not gonna lie. This worked last time. Now you're gonna shove me in a locker like you did for Biz. Actually, are you two guys part of the Dairy Queen Blizzard mafia? Is that. Are you guys a part of those trips?

[Zach Hyman]

I missed it Game. Game two was. It might have to jump on this series Though.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, no, I'm.

[Biz Nasty]

We're.

[Keith Yandle]

We're part of the chocolate chip cookie.

[Whitney]

Crew at the hotel in the lounge.

[Biz Nasty]

So.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, no, no Dairy Queen for us. We keep it, we're keeping it.

[Biz Nasty]

Nice.

[Whitney]

Yeah, your body's a temple, Matthew.

[Zach Hyman]

Part of the honey train though.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Keith Yandle]

I'll talk to you guys later.

[Biz Nasty]

All right.

[Whitney]

All right.

[Keith Yandle]

They did. Thank you.

[Whitney]

Biz. He came on to be nice to us and you gave it to him. You were the one who gave it to him. Do you not remember how it went? Yes. You turned it into a 60 minutes with like Vladimir Putin. Hard hitting questions. Not calling Kachuk Putin, just saying how you would question somebody in a legion. And I'm just like. Hey, Matthew. Yeah, yeah, thanks a lot. Great to see you.

[Zach Hyman]

Sonk was that before a finals last year?

[Biz Nasty]

Well, hey, listen, Born, I gotta sign off the door here with my gout fabric.

[Keith Yandle]

Good luck in the final sport.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm stink neutral. I won't be tarps off on the Jumbotron this year. I'm hanging up the tank top. Wick can have it. Good luck to both sides.

[Whitney]

No thanks.

[Zach Hyman]

Are you gonna be buzzing down the terminal in the golf cart?

[Biz Nasty]

Maybe.

[Zach Hyman]

There you go.

[Keith Yandle]

Timmy will take care of it.

[Whitney]

All right, Rhino biz is done. We've kept you long enough. I'm assuming it's Monday afternoon. You guys leaving tonight or are you leaving tomorrow?

[Zach Hyman]

Tomorrow morning.

[Whitney]

Oh, wow. All right. Long flight. And this series should be a legendary one. Appreciate you coming on, man. Congrats on all your success. It continues. We thank you for joining the show and, and I'm gonna say good luck. You know, I'm just a man of honor.

[Keith Yandle]

You're a good man.

[Whitney]

Play hard.

[Zach Hyman]

Appreciate it.

[Whitney]

Thanks.

[Keith Yandle]

Good luck, Rhino.

[Whitney]

See you, Rhino. Guys, it's Whit here and it's time to talk about Ro Sparks. A two in one prescription treatment we've been mentioning lately for stronger, harder erections. RO sparks dissolve under your tongue, meaning they hit your bloodstream faster than pills, so you can get ready for action quicker. You know the action we're talking about. Once the medication dissolves, they work in about 15 minutes on average, giving you the boost you need for thicker, longer erections. That's right, thicker and longer. And helping you last longer for more fun for both of you. Plus, RO Sparks stay active in your system for up to 36 hours. That means you can be ready to go for round after round or even the morning after. And no need for awkward in person doctor visits. RO connects you with a medical provider 100 online and if prescribed, your treatment ships right to your door. Who wouldn't want a longer, thicker, harder erection? I know it sounds crazy. Who wouldn't want that? Ro Sparks can help if prescribed new sexual health patients get 15 off sparks on a recurring plan. Connect with a [e-mail] Chiclets to find out if prescriptions Ro Sparks are right for you. That's Ro. C O/ Chiclets for 15 off your first order. Longer, thicker, harder erections. That's Ro Sparks, baby. The fastest game on ice. Just hit another gear. Welcome to the Stanley Cup Final, where legends are made and every shift could turn the tide. And now with DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NHL, you could take every slap shot, breakaway and overtime thriller to the next level in the final round where Lord Stanley will be given out. New to betting on the Stanley cup playoffs, you're in for an exciting time. Getting started is a breeze. Fire up the DraftKings sportsbook app. Pick your team to win, lock in your wager and you're off to the races. It's fast, simple and puts you right in the middle of the action. And here's the kicker. New customers who bet just $5 will score $300 in bonus bets if their wager hits. That's right, turn five bucks into a playoff payout. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app now and use promo code CHICKLETS. That's promo code CHICLETS to unlock $300 in bonus bets when your five dollar bet wins only on DraftKingsportsbook. The crown is yours. GAMBLING PROBLEM. Call 1-800-GAMBLER in New York. Call 877-8-HOPE AND WHY or text HOPE&Y at 467-369 in Connecticut. Help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-78-97777 or visit ccpg.org Please play responsibly on behalf of Boot Hill Casino and Resort in Kansas, 21 and over. Age and eligibility varies by jurisdiction. Void in Ontario. Bet must win to receive RA reward. Minimum minus 500 odds required. Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see DKNG Co audio. Thank you so much to Sam Reinhardt. What a guy. What a player. We appreciate him coming on. Guys, let's kind of give give some predictions here. I, I'd love to start with you, Keith. I'd love to get your your, your thoughts on this series. Where you think it's going to go and, and how many games is it going to Take your team to beat my team.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. Like we said earlier, I think this series is going to be amazing. One for the ages. Just with how well these teams know each other, the rivalry, the, you know, McDavid storyline going in the last year, flipping out on TV, on the Amazon doc. So I think there's a lot of great storylines. I'm not. I. I'm not really prepared to say how the series is going to go till after game one. I think the Panthers win in six. I think that first game is going to be a. I think it's going to be a 6, 5 game. Like the goalies haven't seen a lot of shots. I want that. I know. I know you want that in even.

[Biz Nasty]

Even.

[Keith Yandle]

But Bob. I'm confident in Bob being able to settle in and figure it out after that. Skinner, I don't know. So you kind of don't hope that. But yeah, I think it's going to be an amazing series. At the end of the day, I think Florida is just a little bit too deep and they know what it takes and I think Florida takes it down in six.

[Whitney]

What do you have?

[Biz Nasty]

Well, I don't want to piss you off because.

[Whitney]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

You cannot change a thing thinking it might piss me off. You have to be you with your goat.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. And I'm not going to root as a fan for the Oilers. I'm going to keep my distance and respect you guys. I did so last year and I was a mushroom and I just was really excited about potentially Connor McDavid winning the big one, as I still am. Like, I care about Connor McDavid winning a Stanley cup as well as Edmonton Oilers and bringing it back on Canadian soil. I agree with you. Yes. I think this is going to be an incredible series like last year was. Last year was an iconic series. You know, coming back all the way down.03. I just feel like a little bit More rest for McDavid and Draisaitl coming into this one is going to be huge. I feel like the fact that they have home ice is gigantic and that they got to drag Florida all the way up north in that travel schedule where they can get that early pounce on the series. I'm going to say Edmonton wins game one for that reason and that's going to be massive. I just look at that stat of the greats, of Wayne losing in the final to the Islanders and then beating them the next year. Crosby going back, losing to Detroit, going back the next year, finally winning it. These guys are able to learn so much from these experiences and make the necessary changes that they need to make in order to finally be successful and win. And these guys have been doing it their entire careers and lives. So I just can't see McDavid losing again in the finals. I'm going to pick them in seven games. I cannot wait to see how crazy that building is in Edmonton for game seven. Like Whit, you have to be in Edmonton if that happens.

[Whitney]

Oh, if, if it goes seven, I will be in Edmonton, no doubt.

[Keith Yandle]

I don't think there's anyone but more happy in the state of Florida than me that you're picking Edmonton.

[Biz Nasty]

And that's fine.

[Keith Yandle]

Maybe big Cs.

[Biz Nasty]

That's fine. That's fine. And once again I'm just picking that. I'm rooting from a distance. I do still have the Edmonton Oilers crop top in case you do want to wear it with. I'll hand it off to you. I gave it to Kujo's kid. He actually has it right now, so we'll definitely get it on site throughout one game this series. But yeah, I, I, I agree though. Florida's, Florida's a better team, but so is Edmonton and they're going to figure it out and find a way. And the biggest X factor in this series is going to be Stuart Skinner and I feel like he is just going to go nuclear and he's found something and he knows what what's at stake and he doesn't want to cost it for, for Connor and staff. So I, I got oil Oilers in seven.

[Whitney]

Yeah, I think, I actually think Florida's forwards are better. Obviously Marshawn and, and I know that. So Jones comes in, you lose Montour and you bring in Seth Jones and he's been phenomenal. But I think OEL was better than Nate Schmidt is. So I almost think that Florida's defense was a little bit better last year.

[Keith Yandle]

Mika has been better though, Miko, but.

[Whitney]

Now he's got a little bit of an injury. But he has been better than last year as well. So, so maybe. But either way, like OEL was a force in that entire run including the finals. I think the Oilers are a better team. I, I think Stan Bowman deserves a ton of credit for the Wallman trade that, that really went under the radar at the time. He's been awesome. He's been excellent to get Ekholm back paired with Bouchard. I think it's, I forget the McDavid. So McDavid's had these Gretzky Crosby discussion around him since he's 10 years old. So like that's how crazy sports is. Is this, this is actually happening. It would happen the same way as the two people he's been basically compared to his tire entire life. Like only sports could give you that type of drama. That's what like, has me so excited about the series. I'm with you, Biz. I cannot see him losing again. If he were to lose again and then somehow get the Conn Smythe Troph, he may smash the trophy. Like, I can't even, like that makes me sick to my stomach to even think about. But game one is enormous to me and I like, actually, I don't like Biz saying he thinks Edmonton's going to win. But they were 2 and 1 at home last year and they looked phenomenal. Right. I think that in Florida it was a struggle. They were one in three. They got dominated in game two. So like if you start this series at home, you've deserved, you've earned that right. And you go down 01, then game two is a complete must win. Even then you go back to Florida. They got their split. So like Game one really sets the tone for this entire series. They had to travel up also showed it. I don't think we mentioned that the Panthers did the Goodreau 5k walk, I believe as a team the other day, pretty awesome for them to see that. I saw all the guys in their T shirts. Awesome for them. But I, I, I think Edmonton get, I think Edmonton gets it done. I think that you're going to be able to control the matchups at home the way they did. Right. So you can get BARKOV Away from McDavid. Barkov at home. I think McDavid only had, was it one or two points with, in Florida with Barkov on him every shift Maurice has him out there. Right. So you're able at least at home to get away from that. And you can kind of control the matchups. You can have hopefully like Leon's line. Like I'm looking at the rosters right now and trying to think of matchups. Okay. I think, I think you'd want, you'd want in Edmonton McDavid to play against Bennett, Verhege and Tkachuk. Okay. Because I don't think like they can handle his speed. Right. And I think it's pretty noticeable that Matthew Tkachuk, while still playing great, he's, he's been battling an injury since four nations last series.

[Keith Yandle]

He looked faster last year.

[Biz Nasty]

I will say looks like he's got goat.

[Whitney]

He's got the goat. I also look back to last year and, man, Kane was basically in like a body cast. McDavid and Leon were both real banged up. And obviously McDavid left practice earlier a little bit early on Sunday. So, like, there's cause for concern there. But I think overall, Edmonton is much healthier than they were last year, Hyman withstanding. So, like last year, you go in and you're dealing with Florida, who's so difficult to play against, and guys are banged up, they're healthier. This year, they are deeper at forward. Right. They have Leon playing with Kapanen. So, like, if you put Kane on that line and Kane's healthy and played, Kane's got to be a little bit better, I think. I think Kane.

[Biz Nasty]

We need crazy Kane.

[Whitney]

We need crazy Kane. Exactly. He's going to have an enormous impact on this series if Edmonton's winning the cup. I think you look back and say Evander Kane was one of their best players in the final on D. Right? Like Ekhom getting those games against Dallas. That's great. And now five days between game one and the end of the Western Conference final, so he should be a little bit better. I thought he looked a little better as that series went on in game five there, but I just think it's Edmonton's time, man. I think it's also, if you look back, Crosby, he lost in 0819, then got his first gold medal in 2010. That would be the same for McDavid if Canada were to go on the get gold medal. Ash. And I think Gretzky, when he lost in 83, beat the Islanders in 84. I think later that year, in 84 of September, was that his first Canada cup win. So that's like, I don't. Maybe he'd won a Canada cup prior. I could be wrong on that. But the parallels between Gretzky Crosby and McDavid and then it turning out to be this similar that. That to me is just like goosebumps city. That's what sports is all about. And you've talked about McDavid. And I tried, like, explaining to Bri, my wife, like, all about this and how crazy this rematch is. And she kind of said, and until he gets a cup, he's not considered like one of the great ones. And I'm like, no, it sounds nuts. And if McDavid somehow doesn't win a Stanley cup, he'd still be known as one of the greatest hockey players ever. What he did. But if you don't win a cup, man, and how many chances are you going to get, right? Yes. If he resigns, I would be shocked. And I think he'll resign. I would be shocked if they're not back in another cup. But buddy, when you. When you're that close last year and then you grind to get back against the same team, I don't think players like this let that moment go without taking full advantage of it and getting it done. And I think Edmonton gets it done in seven games. And what will be the craziest atmosphere maybe ever in the city of Edmonton.

[Biz Nasty]

Great breakdown, Whit. And I wish you luck, man. This is. This is going to be one for the ages.

[Keith Yandle]

You had some hockey Illuminati shit in there.

[Whitney]

You had some crazy mention that what I'm talking about. So I cannot wait to see this. It's going to be. And Stuart Skinner, the resiliency that guy has shown, it's. It's. What was the tweet? Here, let me see if I can find it. So the last two years, you guys know he was pulled against Vancouver, right? And he was pulled against in this se last year. And then this season he was pulled against la. And Pickard comes in, wins six in a row. Ah, shoot, I didn't save the tweet. His numbers since being pulled in both years are nuts. Like low. 2 goals against 9.20ish save percentage. So this is a guy who's been ridiculed by the whole city at moments and around the league, you can't win a couple. Stuart Skinner. So that's a driven person that I think looks at it now like, I gotta beat Bob. I have to win that matchup. So I can't wait. With that, I think we could throw it over to Zach Hyman. Unbelievable guest for us to get. Sucks for him that he's injured. Let's throw it over and chat with him right now about his thoughts on the series, the season, and. And how he feels. Guys, it's wit. And if you're talking haircuts, there's only one place we should be talking about and that's Sport Clips. It isn't just where you get your haircut. It is your playbook for looking fresh, feeling good, look good, feel good, play good, Sport clips. Walk in, catch the game, and sit back while the pros in men's hair handle the rest. And when you're done, walk out feeling like you're ready to take on anything. Big job interview, big date, doesn't matter what you got going, Go to Sport Clips. They take care of you. They're the pros in men's haircuts. And when you're done, you will feel phenomenal. Like a million bucks walking out of there, looking good, feeling good, playing good. No hassle, no surprises. Just a solid cut every time. It's simple, it's easy, and it's made for guys who want to feel like they've got the home field advantage. And if you want to track your real time wait times, download the app and check in online. Makes it much easier. Sport clips. The haircut experience dialed in for guys, it's a game changer. Now we are joined by a very special guest. Brutal circumstances that he's sitting here talking to us injured, but we got Oilers star forward Zach Hyman. 54 goals last year, five goals in the playoffs this year before the injury. What's going on, bud? Thank you so much for joining. And how you feeling?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, thanks, Whit. Appreciate it, guys. I'm good. I'm good. Obviously disappointed with the circumstances, but excited to be back, excited for the guys. And, yeah, this is what we've dreamed of for a year.

[Whitney]

So we watched the game and we kind of talked already this episode, we hadn't. We hadn't had an episode since your injury that right when you got hit, it's the immediate skate to the tunnel that as former players, you know, that's. That's really not good. So you just must have known right away, like, could you. Was it more like you went to move it and it wouldn't move, or was it more just the pain sent you right to the locker room? Like, take us through that. As painful as it might be to talk about it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, no, it's. It's all good. I knew right away, like, it. It just popped and, yeah, Marchman came right through my hands and the full contact was. Was on my. On my wrist.

[Biz Nasty]

And.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I just. I just knew, you know. You know, as a player, you know, when. When something's not right. And. And I knew right away. And yeah, it's unfortunate.

[Whitney]

So right then and there, like, the emotion of the playoffs, the adrenaline, like, was it. Did you get emotional right then knowing that your run was done? Like, I, I hate to bring this stuff up. People are just so interested like that. That has to be a moment where you break down a little bit knowing that, like, your chance to. To bring anything more forward for the team is. And you can off the ice, but on the ice. Yeah, that probably hit you hard.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, it's. It's hard. Like, it's. I don't know if I grasp it in. In the moment. Like, I think in the moment, you're. I can play through it, like, whatever it is, I'll be able to play. And. And quickly realized that. That it was something that I needed surgery. And then, yeah, like, the guys came over in the intermission just to check up on me. Like, that's kind of what guys do when there's a serious injury.

[Whitney]

And.

[Ryan Whitney]

And I. And I kind of broke down. Like, it. It's. It was hard. Like, I was emotional, but at the same time, you're trying to keep it together because the guy's got to go out there and win a period. But that's kind of the realization where it's like, like, my. My on. I. Like, I can't help anymore. Like. Like, I'm. I'm on the shelf and I'm here to support in any way I can, but. But I can no longer go out there. And. And that's. It's heartbreaking because it's. It's the thing you want the most and. And. And you just want to be able to help. And. And. And I was. It was tough.

[Biz Nasty]

And. And you did, though. I mean, like, just mentioned it before you hopped on just how, you know, maybe the. The scoring wasn't coming as easier than. As easy as last year, but yet you devolved where you had over 100 hits and you. You were really doing it all for this team. Now, was that something that you felt like you needed to bring more of these playoffs, or was it maybe just because of the lack of goal scoring? What other areas can I help out in? And. Or maybe going back to last year's final, like, what can we do more in order to put ourselves over the edge?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, honestly, I think it was just. It's just like, I think we all want to win so bad. Like, we were. We were as close as we could possibly be last year. And it's. It's. It wasn't like I was going out there and looking for hits. It was just. I'm just gonna finish every check that I can and, like, whatever I can do, not change my game. Because you want to do what makes you successful and. And going to the net and creating space and. And doing all those things and. And scoring when I can, but I get in the forecheck and. And maybe times in the past, you. You don't appreciate what the investment is of. Of, you know, bumping a guy every time. Like, you don't have to go out there and kill a guy, but if you're hitting Their, their top defenseman, every single ship and they know that you're coming every single ship. Like. And you know, like that's not fun. Like that's not fun for a defenseman, but you know, like, so that, that's kind of. It just developed and I just said I'm just going to keep coming every shift and I, I'm gonna just hit somebody every shift if I can and if it's there and I'm not gonna chase it. But yeah, I didn't look at the totals until after the game and it's like I don't remember having 10 hits a game, wherever the case may be. But I was just playing hard.

[Keith Yandle]

I know Whit talked a little bit about it before you came on. It's just your speech last year, talking to the guys after that loss saying we're gonna be back here. Is that something that you knew that group, like, you know, if, that, if it's an eight game series, you guys could, you know, it's like one of those things. Or is it. You were kind of like, you know, we got McDavid, we got dry settle. We got myself. Like we have the makings of a group that can be in the Stanley cup over and over. Or is it just. I mean, obviously you say the right things after a game, but it, it sounded like you meant it from the heart.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I mean, the locker room silent after him like that for, I mean, I don't know how long. And you, you hear the other team cheering. You're. You're on the road and you know, Connor goes and accepts it doesn't. Like he comes like it's everything. You just see all these guys that you love and care about so much, just broken and like. And I was also. And. And it's kind of. There are no words in, in that moment, but it's was just something that I felt like I had to say just because I truly, you know, believed in the group and do believe in the group. And I knew that we had the makings to, to continue to knock on the door every year and be back and, and you earn that in the league. The league is so tight. There's so many good teams that you just have to every year put yourself in a position to have a chance and, and you don't know if you're going to get there because hockey's crazy. It bounces, injuries, whatever it is. But I just felt in my heart that, that we were going to be back the next year and that we were going to win and I Still believe that. And, and, and I'm. I'm here to support the guys in any way I can. I'm going to act like I'm playing, even though obviously I'm not, but. But, man. Yeah, I just. I love those guys so much. And, and like, they FaceTimed me in after the. The Western Conference final win, which I, I was emotional about that too, because I wasn't expecting it. I was on my couch post surgery with my wife watching. And. And, man, they're just a special group of people that we have here.

[Whitney]

You. You guys have proved that, but I want to go back to the first round and, and, you know, game one, you have this miraculous comeback and then they score like the last shift, but you're like, all right, whatever. We. We figured it out in the third, we'll be fine. Then game two goes the way it does. Doesn't seem like much panic in your group and you're going home, but there had to be a little like, oh, Jesus, like, what did we just get ourselves into here?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I mean, no, we weren't really playing that well either. The year has been. It's a little bit of a weird year because we've had pieces coming out of our lineup the whole year. Like, we've been. We've been banged up for a majority of the year, and we kind of have this. The group that we had together for that round and Ecky was out, one of our best defensemen, obviously, and we kind of had to figure out what type of team we were in the playoffs and get hot in the playoffs. Right. And I think Klinger comes in and Klinger starts to look like. Like the Dallas Stars clear, like he's playing unbelievable. And we just had pieces come in and things click. And obviously a lot had to go right for us in that series. Going down to nothing isn't. Isn't fun. LA was a great team, but we were able to kind of figure out what made us successful. Picks coming in and just going 6, 0. Like, there are so many things that have to happen on a playoff run and so many guys that need to step up that when you do and you. You maybe don't remember all the little things, but the guys who play remember everything that happens. And. And so many things had to have to happen. So many guys had to step up for us to have a chance to come back in that series. And then once we won that series, we were rolling.

[Biz Nasty]

What were your thoughts? The two moments in particular? Bouchard keeping on by field. That was insane. And Then what was your reaction to the. The goalie interference call where they doubled down on it, and you're like, oh, my God, we got another chance. Yeah, I think. I think we talked to K. TNT right after, and he's like, oh, yeah, we knew we were gonna score on that one. And then you guys scored like, nine seconds later. So that was like, just an insane, like, twist in the series and then propelled you guys, obviously onto victory.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, that's sports. That. There's certain moments in sports where you just know that something's gonna happen. You can, and it does. And. And for us, like, you know, tie that game. Wait, and then the challenge goes our way, obviously. And you just. We just knew. We knew we were gonna score. Didn't know it was gonna be that quick.

[Keith Yandle]

But.

[Ryan Whitney]

But yeah, obviously a huge turning point in the series to be able to get that win. And then game four, I think just Bushi's keep is. Is a series saving keep. Right? Like, you go from being down maybe 31 to 22 and having all the momentum. And the flip side, like, as. As an Oiler fan, I'm sure you've experienced some devastating losses with us. And on the flip side, like, when you lose a game like that, we know what. What that takes. So we lost game one of Vancouver last year. That took a lot out of us. When we're up three nothing, and, like, those are some of the hard ones to swallow and to come back from. So on the flip side, we knew that winning that game was. Was a big dagger for. For the Kings.

[Biz Nasty]

I know going against Florida was probably difficult in the finals last year, but going against the Harmonica Ladies, was that probably the. The hardest playoff battle you've ever been through?

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah. I was a little shocked the first time. And then, of course, when they won, I figured they'd be coming back until. Until we could put them away. So, yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad we were able to solve the harmonic Ladies. But, yeah, they were. They were there.

[Biz Nasty]

Did that kind of. You up game one because you're expecting this emotional anthem. And then all of a sudden it was that. And it's. It was. It put a weird vibe in the building, didn't it?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, it was weird. I. I didn't understand it. I mean, I think it was probably weird for them, too. Like, they're probably like, what's going on? But it worked for them, obviously, so they just rolled with it.

[Whitney]

And don't forget, shout out to Koreatown Community Center. Monica T. We want to represent great.

[Keith Yandle]

People they're busy Sticks.

[Whitney]

Perfect. I had it. I was lucky enough to get, get to play with Corey Perry and that's, you know, MVP Corey Perry, you know, 50 goal guy, dominant. The fact that he's still doing this, that was 15, 14 years ago. Like, I take, take us kind of through how much he loves the game, what he's like in the room and basically like his skill around the net for, for a guy like you who can tip and play great in front of the net, he adds something else or it must be great for you to even watch.

[Biz Nasty]

Watch.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I mean, that's the guy that I, I grew up watching. Right? Like, he. And he, yeah, he plays similar style. Like, he, he knows where to score goals, like in front of the net and, and that's, you know, coming in the league. That's, that's kind of the player that I wanted to emulate. And yeah, you can't say enough good things about him. Like, you don't play the way he does at his age. If you don't love the game, like, that's first and foremost. Like, he loves the game. He loves it. He takes care of his body. Like, like he, he really does. And he's just got an elite hockey brain. Like, he just knows the game. He knows where to be. He's evolved over time. Like, he goes from a guy who's probably playing PKPP 25 minutes a night to a lesser role and then now a bigger role. Right. Like, I don't think anybody had him almost scoring 20 goals this year and now close to leading the playoff in goals. Right. It's. It's remarkable, but it's. I think it just speaks to how dedicated he is. And also like, like who, who goes to that many Stanley cup finals over and over again? Like, he sees on winning teams because. And he's a big part of winning teams just because he's a driver. Like, he just cares so much. He's a huge part of our team. And I think just the reason he can still play is he just thinks the game better than anybody. Like, he's just so smart and good touch, obviously.

[Biz Nasty]

Has he ever gotten gout?

[Ryan Whitney]

You know what? I don't think so. But if he does, I guess he'll be asking you about it.

[Whitney]

He.

[Biz Nasty]

He's pretty flexible, isn't he? Is he stretching all the time? I heard he's got this crazy stretch routine, kind of like Paul Korea.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah.

[Whitney]

He.

[Ryan Whitney]

I sit next to him in the locker room, so we're, we're locker room buddies, but yeah, he. He stretches. He does all of his quirky stuff, but it keeps him young and keeps him flexible and able. I mean, the guys get tip for the puck all the time, too. Like, when you're in front of that, you get hit, you get banned, you get bruised, and. And he just doesn't miss. Miss a beat, doesn't miss a game. And, yeah, he's. He's pretty cool.

[Biz Nasty]

Do you think, considering you won't be playing in the finals, that we could put Shaq Hyman in your jersey and just let him skate even though he's not on the playoff roster?

[Ryan Whitney]

I would love. You know what? We got to bring Shaq on. Shaq's got to get that on to Edmonton. We got to bring him in.

[Whitney]

I know. I. Doing his strut biz. His skating strut?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, his. His sneakers.

[Ryan Whitney]

We still have that big stick in the back room. So he. We got him ready. Like, so ready.

[Biz Nasty]

What I was hoping for is maybe Cates could get off his wallet and hire Shaq to DJ, because he. DJ's right. I think he charges like 50 to 100k for a set, though, so I don't know if he can afford that. And then also send the plane for him and Chuck, because if you gotta experience that atmosphere, that building, the roof might come off game one. Like, that has to be the loudest building that you've ever played in.

[Zach Hyman]

The alloy.

[Whitney]

It's.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's unbelievable. Listen, I think if those two are open to it, let's make it happen. Like, I got time on my hands now. Obviously, I'm not playing, so I would love to shoot the. With them and, and watch a game. Bring. Bring them out to. To Rogers.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay.

[Keith Yandle]

Have.

[Whitney]

Have the boys addressed in the room how the. The loyal Oilers fans out there are just going toe to toe with each other after big wins. Like, have you seen these videos of the Moss pit? It's like, like, and I think it's just almost fights of passion and love to the oil. But have the guys noticed it's bomb fights?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, we've seen it. It's.

[Keith Yandle]

It's wild.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. I mean, lots of passion in the city, so. And. And, you know, I think that's. That's another great thing about these playoff runs is, is it just shows. I mean, first of all, Edmonton at this time, you're just beautiful. Like, it's awesome, and it's an amazing city, and I think people don't really know about it. It's pretty hidden. Like, when I was signing here, everybody was like, oh, it's really cold and not much to do, but man, like, the fans are unbelievable here. The city's unbelievable. Food here is great. Like there, it's an amazing place to raise a family. I can't say enough good things about, about the city and the people. So if you're, if you want to come to, to watch the best hockey, I mean, no better place.

[Keith Yandle]

And obviously you, you know, from Canada, you've only played in Canada and seeing that the cup hasn't been back there since 93, like not only for Edmonton, but what do you think it would mean for the entire country for, you know, you guys to bring it back there?

[Ryan Whitney]

I mean, it'd be, it'd be special. Like, I think it's due. It's due for sure. And hockey's Canada's game. It's. You know, Canadians love hockey. It's, it's, it's what we live for. Ever since I was a kid, that's all I wanted to do was, was lift the Stanley cup and, and, and be a hockey player. Right. And I've had the, the good fortune of playing in two amazing Canadian cities and Canadian markets. And I wouldn't trade it for the world and, and this the city of Edmonton, people Edmonton deserve it. And I'm hoping that we can, we can bring it home.

[Biz Nasty]

I think one of the storylines wit has been the fact that you guys have been getting that depth scoring. It hasn't been able. You guys haven't just relied on, on 97 and 29 in order to get it done. How was it bringing in a lot of these new faces and, and what's made them get so easily acclimated to the group and, and help you guys provide that secondary scoring.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Again, I think things just clicking at the right time. Like I think throughout the year, Leon really carried our team like he was. He was unbelievable and he has been in the playoffs and obviously we rely heavily on him and Conor and, and that's kind of always been the safety valve.

[Keith Yandle]

Right.

[Ryan Whitney]

But I think in order to win, if you want to really win, you.

[Keith Yandle]

Need, you need a team.

[Ryan Whitney]

Like you need guys stepping up and, and you need, you need guys stepping up during injury. Like we were missing our. One of our best defensemen and we had guys step up throughout the whole playoffs. Like I mentioned, Pinger and Stetch, like those guys stepping up big time coming in and, and just filling huge roles and then on the front end, like, you can't just rely on the big guys. Like if we're able to win series against, you know, Dallas and Vegas because we have great Dallas depth. And, and everybody was talking about how they, you know, their depth was going to be better than our depth. But the reason we won those series in five is because we had scoring from all four lines, like timely scoring. And you look at the Panthers too, like they've got great depth too. The two teams in the finals are teams that have scoring throughout the entire lineup. And I think it's, it's the reason, you know, both of us are here.

[Whitney]

Take us through. When the boys first heard or saw Evander showing up in Rolls Royces Ferraris. Like how. And then I think Connor Brown was with him for one of them. We, we've made some jokes, but where did this come from? When did you guys know he was going to be doing this?

[Biz Nasty]

Well, first of all, I heard Kaner told him it was going to be a tractor and that's why Connor Brown showed up. And then he was surprised with a Rolls Royce or Ferrari or whatever.

[Zach Hyman]

You know what?

[Ryan Whitney]

I, I don't know if you guys know Cannon do well, but he, he loves, he loves the flair, right? Like he, he's a guy who makes hockey, you know, fun outside of hockey, right. He brings a different type of energy. A lot of guys are, are serious and, and very methodical with their process. He's a guy who just loves life and, and loves having fun, obviously, and, and, and is obviously a hell of a contributor for us. Like he, he brings it every night too. So we missed him throughout the whole year and he came back for playoffs and, and he's going to be a vander like that, that he's going to bring his flair and, and his flair was showing up in these fancy cars. And remember when he came back, Brownie was actually walking to the rink. It wasn't a planned thing. And Evander, you know, pulled up like from the hotel drive, like the hotel from our hotel to crypto in LA is like a 30 second drive, like two minute walk. And, and Evander's driving by and, and he pulls down his window and Brownie's walking. He says, get in. So Brownie gets in and, and we didn't know Brownie was going to be in it. And then we saw the insta like an hour later from new hours and we just started dying.

[Whitney]

He gets in and he's like, all right boy, let's go to the rig. Oh.

[Ryan Whitney]

And it's like, it's, it's literally like a one, it's like a one lane drive. Like it's two seconds, but it was, it was quite. It was classic.

[Biz Nasty]

Is he paying for, like, how did he line that up?

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't know. I don't ask questions. I just. That's a, that's an Evander question. I'll leave. He's got his secrets. He won't. Probably won't tell me, but he's got. I wonder what he's gonna bring for the finals. Like, he's got a new car every. Every game.

[Biz Nasty]

So that was the one thing that we'd heard is that, like, your group really embraces his personality and what he's like. You said he's a flashy guy, right? And maybe in some locker rooms that doesn't mix because hockey guys are a little vanilla. But that's really cool that you guys have, have embraced them for, like, who he is. And, and yeah, that's allowing him to show his true personality. But saying that. Do you guys rip him hard in the room about all this?

[Whitney]

Yeah, for sure.

[Ryan Whitney]

I mean, that's, Everybody does. So, like, yo, Hill, that's hockey banter, right? Like, we, we're all over each other all the time. Like, that's, that's the, the beauty of a, of a close locker room. These guys are, are chirping each other all day long. But yeah, I think, I think Evander, like, I think he's matured a lot. Like, he's. He's a dad now.

[Keith Yandle]

4.

[Ryan Whitney]

Like, he's. He's really grown up from, I guess, the way people have thought of them in the past, but he still has that fun, fun side to him. And I think during the course of an 83 game season and a long playoff run, like, you need guys who bring a different type of energy. And, and we have a lot of guys who are obviously very serious and, and dialed in. And to have a guy who brings a different type of energy is, Is refreshing. So it's, it's been fun. And like I said, he's been. He's been a horse. Excuse me, a horse for us. And, and we're gonna need him.

[Biz Nasty]

Of the guys that you've brought in, like, there's a crazy amount. Who's the one that surprised you the most?

[Ryan Whitney]

In what way?

[Biz Nasty]

Just like, everything, like, as far as, like, how much game he actually has on the ice because some of them, like Trent Frederick played in Boston, right? Like, maybe don't see him as many times per season and just maybe personality wise that people don't really know what, what these guys are like behind the scenes.

[Ryan Whitney]

I mean, there's so many, like, we're, we're a character. Like we're a team of, of almost miscast at time. Like we bring in guys who, who are at different points in their careers and they, they get a revival in Edmonton. And I think it's a credit to, to our group and, and being able to just make guys feel comfortable and, and make them feel like themselves. Right. I think it's really important. I think there's lots, I mean my favorite is probably, my favorite story is probably Clinger. Like Clinger went from, he came in on a, on a one year deal. I think he played 10 games. He was on the IR and I think think people pretty much wrote his career off. Like they're like this guy's done, he's never going to play play again. Like he had his chance in Toronto, chance at Edmonton and now he's, he's just, he's like a top two defenseman. It's unbelievable. He's come in and, and just kind of said screw it and is just playing unbelievably. Like him and Wallman have found incredible chemistry and, and for a guy like that to come in when everybody's written him off and just prove everybody wrong is, is pretty cool. And, and I just, and he's a great person. Like he's, you go from being like a 25 to 28 minute player a night in Dallas to being on however many different teams he was on and then to find the success he's found in Edmonton. Like, couldn't be happier for a guy like him.

[Whitney]

Zach, we can't thank you enough, buddy. I, I, we, we do need to sit down with you one time and go over your entire career and maybe that'll be in the future, but just gutted for you, man. Honestly, like it's just such a kick in the dick as an Oilers fan. Not that not to have you out there in the final and as a former player, like, I'm really sorry you went through it, but as Biz said, you did so much to get him here and we appreciate you taking some time, dude. So thank you very much.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, I appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me on.

[Whitney]

Guys, we're here. We need to talk about Rollback. Rollback's all American collection just dropped and it is everything. If you're hunting for a USA themed polo for this summer Ryder cup coming up in the fall, Rollback delivers prints, stripes, flags, you name it. Next up, they're shorts. Whether lined or unlined, they're lightweight, breathable and move with you. Easily the best workout Shorts out there. I just got some sent to me. They're incredible, comfortable, awesome and surprise, Roback swim trunks. We didn't even know they made them, but now we're hooked. There's incredible quality, perfect fit summer gear. Roback's got it all locked in. So use the code chiclets on roback.com for a generous 20 off your first purchase through the end of the week. That's C-I C L-E-T S on R H O-B-A-C-K.com 20 off all polos, shorts, swim trunks and more with the code Chiclets. And I can't tell you how good this stuff is. We got these golf shirts starting last year. They're incredible, lightweight, breathable. And then to find out they have shorts, they have workout shorts, they got swim trunks. It's incredible. So right now go to roback.com and use code CHICKLETS for 20% off rollback. Thank you so much to Zach Hyman. Great guy, great player. Did not just become who he is because he's rich. That's, that's quite evident. Guys, onto the quick hits. Jonathan Taves, he's coming back. He told his agent Pat Bresson he's officially coming back next season. And I'll throw it to you biz first. Where do you see him landing?

[Keith Yandle]

Like, oh, we know where the leaf for. How much are you paying? How much are you paying him, Biz?

[Biz Nasty]

I'm. Well, he's going to be staying here training this summer at my pad. He likes to hang out in the Scottsdale area so he's taking things very seriously.

[Whitney]

But give him some steak.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, high protein diet only steak. But so happy for this guy, man. Like, it's obvious that he, he missed playing the game and had to take a step away. There were rumblings about maybe like post Covid effects and how that was affecting maybe his body and his recovery. Eventually I'm sure we'll get the full story as to why he needed a time off that he did. But you go from the highs of highs and having to step away from the game. It's still a relatively young age after what he was able to accomplish, whether it was with the Chicago Blackhawks, Team Canada. I mean this guy's done it all right. So the fact that he gets to come back and finish on his own terms and, and hopefully it's with a winning team and contribute in whatever way he can is, is going to be awesome. And ultimately it just comes down to the human being and him being Happy. And I feel like when he's playing hockey, lacing up his skates is when he's at his happiest. So shout out to Jonathan Toews and. And more guys like this around the league is just good for us, right? So at a certain point, he has said that he will come on the pod, but I don't think his story is quite finished just yet. So I'm hoping a guy like that would sign with the Leafs just from his sheer experience and, you know, why are you laughing? You need guys like that in the locker room to rub off on this team in order to get over the hump. Like, where the fuck.

[Whitney]

I know, I know you want him in Edmonton, huh? No, I'm. I'm. Oh, I'd love.

[Biz Nasty]

You want him for yourself.

[Whitney]

I'd love to have him go to camp at Edmonton. I don't know, like, if he'll be signing it. Like, will he have to sign a deal or will it be a pto? It's kind of hard to give a deal, obviously, for what he's accomplished. Maybe not. But why would he go to Toronto?

[Keith Yandle]

Like, well, you think he probably wants to win.

[Whitney]

You think he wants to. And forget. Forget the fact that he wants to win. Like, you think he wants to deal with that madness as he's trying to come back.

[Keith Yandle]

Very good point.

[Whitney]

I think you're crazy to think he would go there. I think he'd be crazy to go there. Like, dealing with that microscope as you're trying to just get back in the mix.

[Biz Nasty]

He went to Chicago. Original six franchise, one of the biggest markets in the United States. He was playing at the fucking house that MJ built. The United Center. 20 over 21,000 people every game.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, but when he came in smoke.

[Biz Nasty]

No smoke to coming in that type of environment, it would be Jonathan Toews. So that's all I'm saying. I'm making my pitch as the ambisador and you guys can say what the fuck you want to say. Okay, so.

[Whitney]

So I will really agree with you on the highs of. Highs that he's felt and like, we've talked a lot about, like being an NHL player and it ends and it's an empty feeling and it's hard. And that's for somebody like me, like, being who he was and having it end the way he did, like, that's just got to be like, almost unbearable at times. And it. It reminded me of a video popped up on my Instagram. It was the song Linger by the Cranberries. But it was somebody else Singing it. And it was. Yeah, it was highlights of Kane and Taves and their cups and their goals and their parades into this awesome song that was. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, you kind of forget, like, this guy is a true legend of the game, a Hall of Famer. And the way it ended, like, just. You're sick to your stomach for him, right? So for him to be able to come back and feel healthy enough and do those retreats where. What was he in India? And he's. And he spent all this time just like trying to find himself. I'll get. I'll say. And get healthy. And you're just really happy for him that he's at a place where he can say, I'm ready to come back. I'm ready to give it another go. So that. That's the coolest part for me. And I'll go to. To game notes this week where they were talking about it. G said Anaheim with. With Q kind of like makes sense, right? Good weather. So, you know, for your body, that's going to help. That's going to make a difference as opposed to being in a really cold place where maybe you don't feel as good as you're older and having Q there and having young guys that he could really teach and Anaheim wanting to make a big step next year and we don't know what type of player Taves would be. But, but I G said that and I was like, I could, I could picture that. I really could, Keith.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, I, I could see that. That makes a ton of sense. And you know, Q obviously knows what he's getting and, and know what he could bring to the organization. But I, I think it goes back to what you said about McDavid wit. Just like the, these top end guys just have something in them that's different from everybody else. Like, we, we all played the game, loved it.

[Whitney]

That can hurt them more after because of what's in them that created who they are. If that. Does that make sense.

[Keith Yandle]

100. Because it's. It's all they know. It's all they care about. Like biz. You. You probably know more like, is he married? Does he have a family married to the game? Yeah, exactly. So, like, these guys, like, they just love the game. He has nothing else to prove in this game. He's won it all. He's been the captain. He's. He's, you know, he's a sure hall of Famer. But like, it just shows you the love that these guys have for the game. And he Knows he can. You know, whether he's going to a team to help him win or he's going to a team to help him grow, I think him coming back in the league and. And whatever team he's on is going to reap the benefits of it. And I wish him nothing but the best of luck. He's been a great ambassador for the game the last, you know, 15 years or however long. And yeah, I hope he's just happy and. And, you know, at the end of the day, I think he'll play well. Will he be the same guy? You never know. But I think if there's someone who could do it, it'd be him.

[Whitney]

Somebody in the Washington Capital's, like, corporate sales department. He might be unemployed right now because there was a. A screenshot taken of an email sent to Washington Capital's season ticket holders that said, basically like, re up now because last year, tomorrow, next year is Ovechkin's last season. Yeah. All of a sudden the team comes out, says that isn't true.

[Biz Nasty]

Sales 101 right there.

[Whitney]

I don't know. Yeah, it's kind of like, hey, buddy, you want to sell tickets? Tell everyone that the greatest goal scorer to ever live is actually done after.

[Biz Nasty]

Next year and he'll come drop them off at your place. Like Crosby does.

[Whitney]

Yeah, Crosby still does that incredible thing that the. The. I remember showing up with the tickets. I was delivering some tickets and the guy was just like.

[Biz Nasty]

Like, oh, we're Sid. Yeah.

[Whitney]

He's like, oh, like his face. He was like, oh, thanks.

[Keith Yandle]

What's your name, Blousey? Ed Hardy Jeans on.

[Biz Nasty]

Right. I get the Wilkes Barre Scranton Penguin firing squad here to drop off my tickets. Everybody else getting Gino and Sid.

[Whitney]

The. Is this Turnover City cable guy.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Can I help you, sir?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Here to give you a season ticket. For what? But Ovechkin, apparently it is not definitely his last year. I kind of believe that it is based on it being the last year of his contract, him breaking the record. It kind of makes total sense that next year would be his last season. But immediately, sorry, he's going to. To for that last year hometown discount. But the Capitals came out immediately and said that. That. That isn't true. So. Because you're right, sales 101, that guy's sitting. He's like, I'm. I'm trying to sell seasons.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, it was the end of the. The month, right?

[Whitney]

Yep.

[Biz Nasty]

Trying to get hit the sales quota. He's probably got a big weekend plan, family vacation this summer. Trying to. Trying to get it paid for, man. Little down payment, down payment on a new vehicle.

[Whitney]

So the Buffalo Sabers, they hired Yarmo Kekalina as a senior advisor to general manager Kevin Adams. The team announced. So they've now brought in Eric Stahl and that's closer to you know, a player who's played recent, knows a lot of the guys who still play and that's a guy who ran, ran the Columbus Blue Jackets for a long time and they made the postseason five times in a seven year stretch under Kekalainen's guidance in Columbus. He was actually the first European GM in NHL history. So biz, you say you like it, you're happy with this one for the sake.

[Biz Nasty]

I just think he's used to being a GM and a number. Not big market and working is a big market. Like yeah, but I'm talking about like working within your your means like to try to attract people to come play in Buffalo. It's not, you know, not necessarily a team that has a ton of money to spend. At least they've been a little bit frugal with it. Like that's kind of what I'm talking about. You're talking, you're, you're talking about it being like a big draw on television.

[Whitney]

Yeah, yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Market. Yeah. I just met more of like, you know, you look at the Chicago's, the Toronto's, like the original six and then like the other top tier markets where.

[Whitney]

It'S hard to get guys to go there. Like.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, it's just you know, especially like nowadays like you look at like I would assume that most top end talent have Buffalo on their no trade list. So how are you going to sell this as a, as a destination that guys want to come to outside of who they're drafting, developing? Because it's hard, it's hard to attract and especially with where the franchise is at right now. So he has experience building up a non traditional franchise to you know, to at least making playoffs consecutive years in the row if that's how you want to gauge success and also alleviate a little bit of pressure and stress from Kevin Adams because it's, it seems like it's a little bit overwhelming especially with all the rumblings that have came out out of there. But yeah, I definitely like the hire and I feel like he has had a lot of success in drafting and developing as well and that's what they're going to need to do in order to get this team a lot better because we know they're going to be drafting high. That's yeah, I'm happy for them.

[Whitney]

Yep. The Seattle Kraken, they hired Lane Lambert to be their new head coach. This was actually during our stream of Oilers stars. Game five, I think G busted on and said breaking news. And to hear that, I was like.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh.

[Whitney]

Very happy for Lane Lambert. Been around the league forever, has done a great job, got his chance as a head coach. Right. You know, lost it. Now he's getting his chance again. And I just. To me, Seattle like does nothing for me. I. They're kind of in an odd spot where they had all that success early on and maybe that was like, bad for them. Right. Where you. I get. I get you. You want to get the fans of this new team excited and you want to get season tickets sold and all that. But did it end up like putting them a little further behind and not getting as high of a draft pick as they probably should have had to really grow this thing into a true contender. Seems like an awesome place to watch a game. I still want to go to a game out. I think it's climate Pledge arena, the team, they beat Colorado that year. Since then, there's just not much there that. That gets the juices flowing. Hockey fan wise for me, but happy for Lane Lambert and maybe he can kind of turn things around a little bit. I just don't know kind of where Seattle goes. I know Botterill has now taken over his gm, so he's been around the game for a long time too. But Lane Lambert gets another chance. It's good to see somebody get another chance. Although I did send a tweet out about this Gardner McDougal guy. I. When is this guy going to be given a head coaching job if he wants one in the NHL? I think he was the guy at New Brunswick and now he's in Moncton.

[Keith Yandle]

Who.

[Whitney]

And his son's the gm. He just wins. This guy just literally wins everywhere he goes. And I'm talking about guys getting recycled in the NHL community. Does Gardner McDougal get a look? Hate to take away from Lane Lambert here, but just. Just bringing that up.

[Biz Nasty]

No. Yeah. Best of luck to him in Seattle. Quickly to like change directions after the Dan Bilesma hire. I wouldn't say I was shocked by that one because he had success in the AHL in. In. In Palm Springs where they went to back to back Calder cup finals. By the way, I want to call their cup. I don't know how many of you know that. And it goes back to the yarmo talk. Like, like how are they going to address the head coaching position. I don't think Lindy Ruff is the answer of the future. So there you kind of brought it up with. There seems to be a lot of recycling where I feel like at this point in time it needs to be. Let's see some new blood in here. Let's see if they can get a little bit more out of these younger players and, and, and see if the, the development can speed up a little bit, especially in Buffalo. Right. So I'm interested to see who they end up changing the seat with. But congrats to Lane Lambert. Let's see if he can fix things in Seattle because ever since that inaugural season, it's been a dip, man. And, and they've been. They haven't been shy to spend the money either. They got veneers on that extension. Chandler Stevenson ended up getting brought in. Who else did they bring? Montour. So they've signed some guys and they've spent some money. So let's see if they can get back to playoff hockey.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, and they get decord and net too. I mean they, they got a good goalie hopefully in. Yeah. Like, you never know when a team can turn around like that. Do I think they will anytime soon? Probably not. But yeah. Honestly, I don't watch a ton of them. Don't know much about Lane Lambert too. I think guys really love him as.

[Whitney]

An assistant moving on with other head coaching spots. I, I was surprised. I. Maybe not super surprised. Once Matthew Darsh became the GM of the Islanders, being a French guy like Patrick was staying on. And I don't know if everyone thought that would definitely be the case and maybe them being French, some sort of connection. He. He trusts in what Patrick walk can do and, and, and, and end up, you know, being for the Islanders as a head coach. But I mean, I was kind of surprised Paul Mary resigned. They. They've. They've really stuck to. They've changed some things, but they, they stuck to. To Paul Mary, who's getting older, but he's still a hell of a player. But they, they resign him and Patrick wa. Will stay there. And I think some people were wondering what would happen with him, but he's getting a chance under a new GM, which isn't that common. I feel like most GMs come in, they're going to want. They're going to want to hire a guy, but, But Patrick Wall be there and he'll get that full full season to figure out what he can do and. Or was this his. Was he brought in this year? Was he Brought in the year prior.

[Biz Nasty]

Year prior, yeah.

[Whitney]

So this was his first full season. Wow.

[F]

What do you guys, Real quick rumor boys. I was just going to say don't be surprised if the Islanders trade that first overall pick. I wouldn't be surprised one bit. I think it makes a ton of sense just because in years past there's been a definitive number one. People say it's Matthew Schaefer. People say it's Michael Miza. Matthew Schaefer hasn't played a game since December. They have James Higgins. Merses harped on this. You have a kid in Long island who is from Long island, grew up a die hard Islanders fan. If you could trade back, you know, two, three spots, still take Higgins and load up on more assets for the future, I think it makes a ton of sense for the Islanders.

[Whitney]

Okay. I get that he's from the.

[Biz Nasty]

I think if you're basing your decision on that, you're out of your mind.

[Whitney]

Me too. Biz. I'm like, dude, if this kid, if.

[Biz Nasty]

They actually as good as everyone and they like that marketability aspect, then, then sure.

[F]

But that's the thing. I don't, I don't think he's the, I don't think Matthew Schaefer. People aren't sold on him being the real deal. So if you can get really.

[Biz Nasty]

I heard a cool phrase.

[F]

Yes. And I've heard a cool phrase and it was not everyone, every kid wants to be drafted first overall. Not every kid wants to play for the New York Islanders. James Hagan wants to play for the New York Islanders. I just think it's, it's something to consider.

[Whitney]

Yeah, I, I think that if, well.

[Biz Nasty]

More and more has to do with the fact that if they think he's good enough to be drafted in, in a top three pick and he can make changes on the ice for their organization, like that's why I said like obviously finding somebody who wants to come play in Long island is huge. And usually when kids are being drafted that, that high, they seem to, to be able to dictate their future a little bit more, especially nowadays, shout out Eli Manning. But yeah, I, I, I don't know enough about how good these kids are to where you, if you would want to like even risk moving back where it's like all of a sudden you give up on this Schaefer pick and he ends up being the next Chris Pronger. And you did so because this kid's from Long island, you got to pick him third because you wanted to play there.

[F]

But I think there's an it's interesting that San Jose has the second pick. San Jose is desperate, desperate for defenseman. And I think that they would make a move to go up and get the first overall pick so that they could take Schaefer. Then they fall back to two and then they have an array of options.

[Zach Hyman]

I don't know.

[F]

I just don't think it's crazy.

[Whitney]

Okay.

[Biz Nasty]

I don't think, I think it would, I think it would be crazy for the Islanders to do it just based on the kid being from on Long Island. I don't know how good this kid is.

[F]

I don't agree 100%.

[Whitney]

If they think that he's on par with Misa and Schaefer, I get it. It. But if they're. And, and I, I've heard that like Misa and Schaefer are like noticeably above. I heard Shakes as a player. Hagen, gee, you say you haven't, you've heard there's questions about Schaefer. I. Besides him being injured this year, I've heard he's fucking can't miss. So. And I, and I think there are people with Hagens, like, I think Hagens is one of the best skaters I've seen at that level and that age and. But I watched, you know, some of the NCAA tournament and maybe the bean pot final and it's like, wow, if this kid's kind of in the discussion for first, second, third overall, I thought I might see a little bit more. He was, he was in college a year early also, to be fair. But if you, if you think they're all even, I get it. But if you at all think he's a step below and then you trade just cause he's from Long island, like Biz said, you're nuts. You're nuts.

[F]

Yep, I would agree there.

[Whitney]

So with that, guys, what else we got here? Nothing really. The Flyers, they signed, restricted forward Tyson Forrester to a two year contract. 3.75 each year, 25 goals this year. So that's nice. Maybe he pops off even more. And Adam Boquist signed with Paul Mary with the Islanders. Paul Mary got a two year deal, 4.75 each year. Boquist, one year deal, 850. So guys, last thing, and I hate to do this to all you listeners, Tree Living came out, did his press conference and said we got to change the DNA of the Toronto Maple Leafs. So Biz, I don't know where you go from there, considering you want to bring them all back.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, just. I don't know. We seem to not be on the same page right now. Little upset that he didn't consult me before doing that press conference, but I'm going to stick to what I said. If John Tavares wants to take a big hometown discount, he's more than welcome to come back. And I would offer Mitch Marner 8 times 12. Take it or leave it if you don't want it. See you later.

[Whitney]

All right.

[Biz Nasty]

I don't think you can replace a hundred points. Right? You can't replace that. And I keep going back. People are like, oh, Ovie was a wrecking ball. Like Ovi was. This because I compare Ov. They didn't win it till his 13th season. And as much as people want to say, oh, they played different styles, like he was scoring 50 goals, hammering guys, da da da, da. Buddy, you'd be lying to yourself right now if the narrative on OVI wasn't that he was one dimensional and he was selfish and all he did wanted to do is score goals and he didn't play defense before he won a Stanley Cup. That's all everybody talked about. So I don't think I'm that crazy to saying, hey, this is what we have to offer you. We do want to bring you back, but we believe that your value doesn't exceed $12 million. Here's the offer. We're able to give you one extra year as opposed to other teams. If you don't want it, you don't want to play at home anymore, and there's too much pressure, there's too much this, there's too much that, or you felt disrespected. Sayonara. Bye bye. Enjoy your time in Vegas, Louisiana. Wherever you end up. Maybe it's a little reunion with Dubas, but I have enough confidence in him at 8 times 12 to hand it over and believe that he would get it done. Because I don't want to see him as a Leafs fan, him to move on and then hoist a Stanley cup somewhere else where we get left holding our dick.

[Whitney]

That would be.

[Biz Nasty]

I would quit the pod.

[Whitney]

So basically it's actually not business. Two stakes for a night, 14 stakes a week. That gave him the gout. It's the Leafs and Brad Tree living. So good luck to you guys, Biz, good luck to the Leafs and let's have an incredible Stanley Cup Final. Everyone, thank you so much for listening. We'll talk to you soon. This feeling is so hard to break don't know any other way Even if nothing go away I don't know any other way this feeling is so hard to break. I'll get you someday.