Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 569: Back to Back Champs

Summary

Podcast Title: Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 569: Back to Back Champs
Release Date: June 18, 2025
Hosts: Ryan Whitney, Paul Bissonnette, and Biz Nasty
Produced by: Mike Grinnell

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1. Welcome and Introduction

The episode kicks off with the hosts officially welcoming themselves to the Barstool Sports community, humorously referring to Sidney Crosby as their "white whale" and engaging in playful banter about shaving heads.

• Ryan Whitney [02:26]: "Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed."
• Biz Nasty [02:28]: "To the jungle that is Barstool sports our white whale, Sidney Crosby. Shave his head."

2. Florida Panthers' Stanley Cup Victory

The primary focus of the episode is the Florida Panthers clinching back-to-back Stanley Cups. The hosts express admiration for the team’s performance and culture, highlighting their dominance over traditional powerhouses like the Edmonton Oilers.

• Ryan Whitney [02:53]: "The Cup is over. It's back in the Panthers' hands and Pink Whitney's flowing."
• Biz Nasty [03:00]: "I think Matthew Kachuk owns the masters to that song now."

3. Team Performance and Key Players

The discussion delves into the Panthers' exceptional team dynamics, their goal differential, and standout players who significantly contributed to their success.

• Ryan Whitney [10:59]: "The Panthers were plus 39 goal differential in the playoffs... How are you supposed to beat Florida?"
• Keith Yandle [06:09]: "I like the absolute master class."

They highlight players like Bobrovsky, Reinhardt, Barkov, and Matthews, emphasizing their impact both offensively and defensively.

• Biz Nasty [12:44]: "Quote from Matthew Tkachuk. Heart meets talent... we're lifting the Stanley Cup right now, because we're a team and not a bunch of individuals."

4. Edmonton Oilers' Struggles

Contrasting the Panthers' triumph, the hosts critically analyze the Edmonton Oilers' performance, pointing out their inability to compete effectively despite having superstar players like Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl.

• Ryan Whitney [08:27]: "I don't want to forget the fact that the Oilers ran through the West."
• Biz Nasty [25:04]: "How are you supposed to beat this? You have every tool, hurt someone when you hit them, do something offensively."

5. Trades, Contracts, and Cap Space

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around player contracts, trades, and the implications of salary caps on team building. The hosts debate the financial strategies of both the Panthers and Oilers, questioning the Oilers' ability to retain key players without crippling their salary structure.

• Biz Nasty [15:40]: "He's signing an eight-year deal where he could probably get over 10 in free agency."
• Ryan Whitney [37:13]: "It's like, yeah, that's the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard."

They forecast the potential financial strains on the Oilers if they attempt to re-sign players like McDavid without adequate cap management.

6. Player Highlights and Performances

The hosts celebrate individual accomplishments within the Panthers, such as Nate Schmidt's exceptional play-goal performances and Sam Bennett's crucial goals during the playoffs.

• Biz Nasty [55:52]: "Sam Bennett just scored more goals in this playoff run than Nikolai has in his entire playoff career."
• Ryan Whitney [24:53]: "Leon just got 14. McDavid's gonna get 17."

7. Team Chemistry and Culture

Emphasizing the importance of team chemistry, the hosts attribute the Panthers' success to their cohesive culture, mutual respect among players, and the leadership of coach Paul Maurice.

• Ryan Whitney [19:24]: "It's a culture that they've created. Buy-in or you ain't going to play."
• Biz Nasty [32:12]: "The pinnacle moments show how much these teams hate each other."

They commend Maurice for constructing a team that prioritizes collective success over individual accolades.

8. Future Prospects and Predictions

Looking ahead, the hosts express optimism about the Panthers' continued dominance in the NHL, predicting multiple Stanley Cup victories in the coming years. They contrast this with their skepticism about the Oilers' future prospects unless significant changes are made.

• Biz Nasty [51:35]: "I'm adamant about starting the season the middle of September... It is going to become a problem because Florida's not going anywhere."
• Ryan Whitney [35:20]: "I think their window's still open. If he doesn't resign... I don't know what they're going to do."

They also discuss the potential for players like Sam Bennett and Brad Marchand to remain with the Panthers, contributing to sustained success.

9. Player Interactions and Anecdotes

Interspersed throughout the episode are personal stories and interactions among the hosts, illustrating their camaraderie and shared passion for hockey. A notable moment involves Biz Nasty recounting a playful incident with player Aaron Ekblad involving a taser, symbolizing the lighthearted yet competitive nature of their discussions.

• Biz Nasty [85:15]: "Sam Reinhart was kind enough to be the feature guest in episode one."
• Pasha [102:42]: "Both of us tased beef squashed. Just had to do."

10. Conclusion and Future Episodes

The episode wraps up with reflections on the season's highlights, acknowledgments of guests like Sam Reinhart, and teasers for upcoming episodes focused on free agency. The hosts also express their gratitude towards their production team and listeners, promising continued engagement and insightful discussions.

• Biz Nasty [91:16]: "So thank you to the hockey God, Merles, who invented it."
• Ryan Whitney [107:57]: "We love you all. The Oilers, they lost again. The Panthers are the greatest team in the NHL two years running."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Ryan Whitney [08:27]: "But I don't want to forget the fact that the Oilers ran through the West."
• Biz Nasty [15:40]: "He's signing an eight-year deal where he could probably get over 10 in free agency."
• Ryan Whitney [35:20]: "I think their window's still open."
• Biz Nasty [85:15]: "Sam Reinhart was kind enough to be the feature guest in episode one."
• Biz Nasty [91:16]: "So thank you to the hockey God, Merles, who invented it."

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Key Takeaways

• Dominance of the Florida Panthers: The Panthers have secured back-to-back Stanley Cups, showcasing superior team chemistry, strategic trades, and outstanding individual performances.

• Challenges for the Edmonton Oilers: Despite having star players, the Oilers face significant challenges in team dynamics and salary cap management, limiting their ability to compete at the highest level.

• Importance of Team Culture: A cohesive and supportive team environment, led by effective coaching, is crucial for sustained success in the NHL.

• Future Predictions: The Panthers are poised for continued success, while the Oilers need strategic changes to their roster and financial planning to remain competitive.

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Note: This summary excludes advertisements, introductory remarks, and non-content sections, focusing solely on the substantive discussions and insights shared by the hosts.

Transcript

[Ryan Whitney]

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[Paul Bissonnette]

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[Biz Nasty]

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[Paul Bissonnette]

Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed.

[Ryan Whitney]

To the jungle that is Barstool sports our white whale, Sidney Crosby. Shave his head.

[Biz Nasty]

Shave his head. Shave his head.

[Ryan Whitney]

Ryan Whitney.

[Biz Nasty]

Paul Vincent.

[Ryan Whitney]

R.A. mike Grinelli. Spittin chick fl it. Holy club.

[Keith Yandle]

You know you weren't winning when that's your song.

[Biz Nasty]

Kachuk was singing that one Post game, actually.

[Keith Yandle]

Witty club.

[Biz Nasty]

No, I think. I think. I think Matthew Kachuk owns the masters to that song now. Yeah, I think he purchased Them post game, didn't he?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yet the Florida Panthers own everything about the Edmonton Oilers and the rest of the league. Welcome. This one stinks, guys. This one hurts. Welcome to episode 569 of the Spit and Chicklets podcast. The cup is over. It's back in the Panthers hands and Pink Whitney's flowing. So we got to shout out Pink Whitney. The Pink Whitney club that's not dead. The Pink Pony Club's dead, but the Pink Whitney club lives, I think right now at Elbow. I've gotten a couple messages. Sorry, videos sent to me of people crushing shots, little nips maybe they're bringing in. I don't know what's going on, but the Pink Whitney is in South Florida. It's not going anywhere. Hopefully everyone else enjoys it. Hopefully Oilers fans drown their sorrows in it. But thank you for. For picking out some Pink Whitney. And thank you guys for joining the demise of myself, the city of Edmonton, the Oilers organization, the Florida Panthers are too good. They're too good of a hockey team. I don't know what else to say. This team, Recency Bias, they're one of the best teams I've ever seen. I, I don't know who you had these motherfuckers. Biz, you had them. You had them. You could have possibly taken care of this for me, would take care of you. But listen, Keith, you need to speak. You said it would be a shit kicking it true. We'll get into the shit kicking. It was, it was. I mean, I wasn't even close that series.

[Biz Nasty]

Can I, can I speak before Yant. Yeah. I got to the TNT set and we just about halfway through our pre game and a little bit of luck on our side. Yance, I don't know if you knew this, but Yan's had a box that was directly beside our TNT booth. So I got to enjoy game six and the closeout next to Keith Yandel. And I wanted to say it's, it's, it's. Listen where I know. And, and I was going to say it's, it's not funny, but it kind of is because when I had the, the, the, the. The. When I had the, the preview with the cry face. With my face, you thought it was funny. Now we got yours with the cry face that I can pull up here or G Ken that we posted. But I just want to say, Yans, before we hand it over to you to break down the Panthers, it was such an honor having you on board the whole year and you've been such an unbelievable ad to the Mix. So to get to. To experience game six in that closeout with you. Look, I can't even say something nice about my buddy here without this guy being an. Can you be. Can you not be a sore loser? Oh, I wasn't. I wasn't a sore loser when the Leafs got fucking spanked.

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't know if you heard his faces last night. Not a sore loser. A.

[Biz Nasty]

There it is right there. I feel like that. That doesn't even look like AI. That looks real.

[Ryan Whitney]

That is real. I sent him a picture last night in my living room. I had a jersey on, too.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, I think your hair looks too natural for that to be you.

[Keith Yandle]

That was the different color dye that he used.

[Biz Nasty]

You got Hank's Barber. Now he's actually dyeing it properly.

[Ryan Whitney]

Never dyed my hair, but.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, like, this team might win four in a row.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, they're.

[Ryan Whitney]

They're in a class three.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, we're going past.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, you got to skip three. I like the absolute master class. I thought this was the easiest series. It thought they just outclassed them in every aspect. And this is. No, I'm not trying to pick on you with.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's easier than Carolina off, bro.

[Biz Nasty]

We're.

[Ryan Whitney]

We're doing a real hockey show here.

[Biz Nasty]

I actually thought. Rod. I thought Rod. The bod brought a little bit more intensity overall.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay, we're trolling.

[Biz Nasty]

All right, we're gonna troll. We're not trolling, bro. I don't know if you heard Knobloch drop the F bomb. Like, you guys need to wake up in there.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yo. It was domination. If you're gonna tell me it was easier than them beating the canes. You guys are both on crack.

[Keith Yandle]

I think a little more physicality like they. They were. They were hit more. It was a harder series. Obviously, playing McDavid is going to be harder, and Leon's going to be harder, but what Aaron Ekblad and Gustav Forsling did to those two. And when you have two Selkie nominees with Barky and Reinhardt, when you have a 1A and a 1B, that give you an opportunity to be on the ice every shift against, you know, guys like McDavid and Leon, it's. I don't know how they're so built like this. I don't know how they have all these guys. It's absolutely insane. Marchie was insane. Four goals. First time ever in a. In a clinching game for Rhino last night. Pasha called him big game Rhino A couple days ago, he showed up, put the team on his back, and Said, boys, jump on the Rhinoceros. Games over. Just give it to me. But I honestly think that this series, if you asked any one of them, it was like, yeah, wasn't. I really don't think it was that hard from Whitney. I'm not trying to be an asshole, not trying to be a dickhead. I just really think just from watching the games that it was an easier game for them to be played. Guys were banged up obviously on both sides, but it's like, Evander Kane, what is he doing? Like, you take 19 penalties, you're the biggest guy on that team, fastest guy. You have every tool, hurt someone when you hit them, do something offensively. But I really think that it was just one of those series that they walked into it, they knew that they were going to win it, and it was just a matter of how many games and, and how, you know, if they wanted to go back to Edmonton or not.

[Ryan Whitney]

I, I don't want. All right, how do I explain this? That wasn't even close. I, I mean, I agree. I'm not going to say it was the easiest series the Panthers had. I will admit openly it wasn't even close. Game 1, they're down 3 1. The Panthers hadn't blown a lead like that under Maurice in the playoffs. They somehow come back and win that one. Game two was actually probably the best overall game the Oilers played. They actually had the lead after the first period. 3 2. But Marshawn the legend. Game three, waxed. Game four, getting waxed second period was their best period in the play in, in maybe the playoffs for the Oilers. Game five, waxed. Game six, whack. So let's, let's not sit here and think that I even think this was a close series. It wasn't. But I don't want to forget the fact that the Oilers ran through the West. They definitely had a harder run to get there than the, than the Panthers did. In my opinion, this is a great team. This is the second best team in the NHL. It just so happens that the Florida Panthers are that heads and shoulders above the rest of the league. Like, that's why I don't want, like this is turning Oilers. It's turning into like failure, failure. And I understand. And Oilers haters. I totally get it. McDavid can't win. Choke artists, blah, blah, blah. That's a great team. And if we can't sit here and address and we'll get into it, maybe like the Oilers have a goaltending problem. I mean, I, I, I've tried to Kind of not admit that. I've tried to say they could do it with Skitter. They went to game seven. They get back to the cup final with them. Even though both runs they had Pickard playing throughout. It's like they don't have a goalie. And you look at the lineups of Florida and to Edmonton, you look up front, it's. It's not even close. We got two that are better than anyone on your team. Barkov, Reinhardt, I get it. Maybe not. But after that, I mean, look at, look at the fucking lineups. And then you go to the D and the D aren't even close. And then you go to the goaltender and I mean this Bobrovsky, hall of Famer, two Vesnas, two cups. Keith. Keith texted our group of friends at home. He might be skating this morning too. Cuz we're just chatting on this group like that. This guy, he's not going anywhere. He's a little.

[Biz Nasty]

All he did was thank God and then he goes, it's time to get back to work. It's like, hey, you're. You're allowed to celebrate for a few days there. But you know, the, you know, Jesus Christ himself turned water into wine. Go have a few glasses, for crying out loud. Jesus Christ, buddy.

[Ryan Whitney]

Couple stats here. The Panthers were plus 39 goal differential in the playoffs, plus. What the fuck? What are we talking about here? The Panthers were. What's this one? Where is it? They had, I think they had the most guys, six players with 20 plus points in the playoffs. The 85 Oilers did it, the 83 Islanders did it. And looser Ryan had 19 and Lundell had 18. That was in the middle of the game that actually they both might have ended up with 20. They might have seven or eight guys. How. How were you supposed to beat that? I sound off in the comments. How are you supposed to beat Florida? I don't see any team.

[Biz Nasty]

I mean, you touched on it. They won the goaltending battle, they won the defensive battle. They won the offensive battle. They out hit them. They beat the shit out of them. And even afterward, oh, especially out chirped them because I heard there were some nasty chirps flying around this series. Like people ringside said some of the nastiest they'd ever heard. And going back when there was no mics like there was being said that could put you in prison. And then how about these post game comments from Matthew Tkachuk? This guy, full blown, he still thinks.

[Keith Yandle]

He'S in the Battle of Alberta.

[Biz Nasty]

He does add doctor off the bone. By the way, injury he reported post game. Still ends up getting one or four.

[Ryan Whitney]

Goals in the final two.

[Biz Nasty]

Quote from Matthew Tkachuk. Heart meets talent. Our team was a team when things were getting hard for them, they looked to one guy. But our team, we do it collectively. And that's why we're lifting the Stanley cup right now, because we're a team and not a bunch of individuals.

[Keith Yandle]

I'd be pissed if I was Leon.

[Biz Nasty]

That's. That's, like, you know. You know what that is? I think that that is actually complimenting Leon and throwing a shot at Conor and.

[Ryan Whitney]

Buddy. How about. How about. Also he had a quote talking about how talented and incredible of a player McDavid is. He'll get a Cup wherever it is.

[Biz Nasty]

With the Leafs.

[Keith Yandle]

I honestly.

[Biz Nasty]

Yes, he's coming. He's coming. This is the greatest.

[Ryan Whitney]

What am I supposed. I got? Not. I. I gotta eat this. I gotta own it.

[Biz Nasty]

Let's. Let's switch the focus quickly. Whit. Can we. The coolest thing about that celebration after they were. They were handed the Stanley cup was the fact that Sasha Barkov gave it to Nate Schmidt. And then the rest of the guys who had never won a Stanley cup, the healthy scratches, like. Like, come on, this guy, I loved it Biz.

[Keith Yandle]

He's still doing his life.

[Ryan Whitney]

When. When the black ace goalie had it, I was like, all right, all right.

[Biz Nasty]

Let's.

[Ryan Whitney]

Let's. Let's get this thing. The Marshy and Reinhardt stuff. Like, I get the Jones and I get the. No, sick, and I get the Schmidt. There was a goalie that I think has just practiced for three and a half months. I'd never heard of. He's carrying it on the troll. I'm like, okay, he's got work in the morning.

[Biz Nasty]

Just signed him for Chiclet's Cup.

[Ryan Whitney]

Now. I actually think the coolest thing, and I Maybe I'm completely just like, my mind is broken from what I just witnessed. But Barkov gets it from Bettman and it. Usually they take the lap. He just went into the middle. Like, does that happen?

[Keith Yandle]

They're a team.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, I believe. I believe Vegas.

[Keith Yandle]

It was a soccer style. Soccer style. That's how they do it in, like, Europe soccer, don't they? They like, oh, and then everyone kind of comes up.

[Biz Nasty]

I feel like they just, like, before they even lifted the thing, they really emphasized and they knew this is about.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, it's been choreographered for three months. They knew they were winning the mug, dude. It's like they've literally Been practicing at practice. I watched it.

[Biz Nasty]

Another thing too is Sam Bennett gets announced Con Smythe. He goes over, he grabs it, gives it to the trainer down the hallway. Don't. Didn't even lift it over his fucking head. Didn't care.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's kind of standard, I feel. I feel like that's kind of standard.

[Biz Nasty]

There was like zero bit of emotion. I don't even think I saw a tooth in his mouth. He didn't care. He just wanted to see Lord Stanley.

[Keith Yandle]

All he heard was kaching, kaching, kaching, kaching, kaching.

[Ryan Whitney]

If you win the Con Smythe, your UFA year, you're a real.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, has it ever happened?

[Ryan Whitney]

Like a great question. G comments help us out. If any UFA to be ever won.

[Biz Nasty]

The con Smite, it doesn't matter because he's signing for 8 times 8 and he's staying there. And then Brad Marshall is going to sign three years for probably five and a half and then Ekblad's gonna sign like a three. Three like the biggest Baron go. You're yan. You're laughing. I'm hearing rumblings that he doesn't want to leave and he'll take a. A significant hometown discount. I would not be shocked.

[Keith Yandle]

3 million is a S. I think 7 million is a significant discount. No, the guy just shut down McDavid, bro.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay, so. So let's make. Let's make a bet both of them.

[Keith Yandle]

But honestly, if Forsling doesn't have E, they're not the same. If E doesn't have Forsling, they're not the same. They got to bring him back. He needs to be back. Seven million, whatever it is, then none.

[Ryan Whitney]

Of them need to go back.

[Biz Nasty]

Like let's make a deal.

[Ryan Whitney]

Do you guys want this to continue biz like as Elise, you don't want Marshall back there.

[Biz Nasty]

You think I'm fucking around? I want them to win two Stanley Cups in the next three years. And then by the end of it, every single agent, other team, other organization is losing their mind about the state tax law because that is why they're going to get Bennett for 8 times 8 where he could probably get over 10 in free agency. That's why Brad Marshaw, who I don't know why Boston didn't just give him the fucking 7 million per with the way he played. So fuck the Bruins for doing that.

[Ryan Whitney]

Agreed.

[Biz Nasty]

Because. Because. Because the Leafs are lifting the stand. Boston Bruins.

[Ryan Whitney]

One of the first thoughts in my spaces was like, fuck Boston.

[Biz Nasty]

There you go.

[Keith Yandle]

Boston.

[Ryan Whitney]

Sweeney, you trade. What are you doing? Like, first off, for Being that bad to then, like, trade him and then you. What did. What did he want from Boston? What am I missing here? Even if you're like, sort of rebuilding, like, he's your captain, a legend. What did he want to trade him?

[Biz Nasty]

Why wouldn't you? On top of Chicago's guy they give away, Hegel. Seth Jones led all skaters in ice time, lugged for the Stanley cup playoffs with 25 minutes. Or I believe it was just over 25 minutes for the Stanley Cup Final.

[Keith Yandle]

But that one's a little different from Marshall fans.

[Biz Nasty]

The guy that Chicago fans were like, this guy's brutal. We don't need him. We're gonna be sick. Cause we Got Connor Badad 25 minutes in the Stanley cup final, shutting down the other team's best lines. The best players on the planet, they should be fucking. They should be relegated to the fucking American Hockey League too, along with the Bruins for that nonsense. So I know we're venting, but we're not taking away from this fucking wagon that the Florida Panthers have built because who.

[Keith Yandle]

Who was it, Futa that said never, never judge a defenseman on a bad team?

[Biz Nasty]

That's exactly what he said. Stinks.

[Ryan Whitney]

He can't even.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, we got a trade buddy.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's playing with the ghost of Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook out there. He's fuck trying to do this thing alone on one of the worst teams in the league. Yeah, let's trade them to Florida and eat. Like, what do they eat? Aren't they eating like 4 million?

[Keith Yandle]

I think 50%.

[Biz Nasty]

No, no, I think they're eating 25, 15 or 25% in that range.

[Keith Yandle]

Edmonton was eating four more years.

[Ryan Whitney]

Three or four more years. Seth Jones, they have Forsling making five, eight.

[Biz Nasty]

I think he's making six, too.

[Ryan Whitney]

Same thing. Same thing.

[Keith Yandle]

They honestly. They should buy him a house or something.

[Biz Nasty]

Golf cart.

[Keith Yandle]

Barky makes like nine or something he should be making.

[Ryan Whitney]

And Reinhardt's eight and a half.

[Biz Nasty]

Eight, eight, six.

[Ryan Whitney]

What we're talking about. Leon just got 14. McDavid's gonna get 17. Like, how are you supposed to beat this? How are you supposed to beat this?

[Keith Yandle]

You guys were here last week. Look at it out here. You know, it's.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm. I'm not doing stupid here.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'm not doing the state tax thing. I'm not doing the state tax thing.

[Biz Nasty]

We're not going to go there.

[Ryan Whitney]

Because I want to. I want to be clear. I want to be very clear. That is one of the best hockey teams I've ever seen. And when you hear the interviews after about. And people are like, oh, they just won two in a row. Obviously they're going to say they love each other. I don't. It's not lip service, dude. These new guys come in. It's a culture that they've created. Buy in or you ain't going to play. All they do is hang out off the ice. They. They work together, they hang out together. They're. They are all involved in one goal of winning. I don't think any of them care about points. Like, what. What that team are you like?

[Biz Nasty]

But they all got 20 and they.

[Ryan Whitney]

And they all had 20 points in the playoffs. They got this looser, Ryan fucking guy. They trade Cho, check for him. He's walking into the zone. Up one, nothing. Under a minute. Pulling up. McDavid's flying after him. I don't know why. And he just finds Tkachuk. He shoots on that hit. Skinner's glove goes in. Two nothing. That was the game.

[Biz Nasty]

Hey, and you know who made you, May? You know who handed that shift off to him? Brad Marshaw. That third line, they go get the momentum. He makes a drop play to Lundell. Lundell goes down, gets a scoring chance. They recover it. Brad Marshaw, 40 seconds into his shift, he goes and changes for Tkachuk. So injured, Chuck gets to come on fresh. Well, one leg. I was going to say legs, but one leg, and he just waddles down the offensive zone. And your boy McDavid gets sucked right in. And Lundell's parked in front of the net. Shoot through the screen. Two nothing. With the starts for the Edmonton Oilers, in every single game that series, Florida, except game one. Had multiple goals. Had two multiple. And once again, though, just like the game prior, I feel like in the first four, five minutes, they were fine. They were dictating play. And then all of a sudden, maybe a tough exchange between Skinner and at home.

[Ryan Whitney]

Maybe.

[Biz Nasty]

What's that? Maybe, buddy.

[Ryan Whitney]

What was Ekom doing?

[Biz Nasty]

Dusting it off. Then he throws the ragu meat sauce, hits Bouchard's shin pad. You think Bouchard's gonna maybe step in the defensive lane? No, he tries to give it a little backhander, a little soft play up the middle. Well, you got Reinhardt, one of the smartest players in the NHL according to Paul Maurice. Well, what does he know? Two Stanley Cups back to back, not a big deal. Two mugs. And then he goes down. And then just like Marshaw, the face off at Comb again, like Ekom. Looked like me out there playing defense this Series.

[Keith Yandle]

Well, you were an all Star on the coast.

[Ryan Whitney]

Echo threw it a legit rocket, knee high pass.

[Keith Yandle]

Whoa.

[Ryan Whitney]

Like, here, take, hey. Oh, fuck. The puck's rolling me. Here, you take my problem, Bouchard. I, I, I'm sorry. Like, people were all over Bouchard last night. I understand the giveaway before the second goal. Like, yeah, chip it in. Under a minute left, that first goal. I, I seriously do not blame Bouchard at all. I'm, I'm sorry, I don't. See, he literally had a wrist, he had a wrist shot shot at his knee pads.

[Biz Nasty]

If I could critique it a little bit, I would say that he's better off, at least, even if not a little bit underneath his partner to give him a better passing lane. When you're going D to D, it helps, especially given that they have such a strong F1. You gotta go laterally, like, kind of like you pass in rugby. Listen, I'm not saying every time it's going to be perfect. I still think Ekholm had plenty of time to get that puck over. He gets it on his forehand, he brings it to his backhand, brings it back to his forehand. Well, by the time that happens, Verhag, he's got a stick in lane and what else is he going to do other than throw the ragu meat sauce so shit burger over to his partner. You're saying you can't blame Bouchard? I think when that happens, you just got to kind of try to punt it, but make sure you stay on the defensive side. He just has his ass to the wall and he tries a little soft backhand play to like, punt it farther into the neutral zone. Like, I don't know if that's the play either. So you start the game, you get a bunch of opportunities. Bob looked a little bit shaky.

[Ryan Whitney]

I know where those pucks were.

[Biz Nasty]

Couldn't find a little bit of nerves, maybe in a closeout game. And of course they can't take advantage because all of a sudden they get the blunder from the back end. So I really, I really felt like the back end let him down quite a bit this series in making some major bonehead mistakes and, and great shot by Reinhardt.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's falling over like, I don't know. Skinner, can you mix one in there?

[Biz Nasty]

I think tie the skates up a little tighter.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's just me. Can you mix one in on the Kachuk shot that I think hit the what looked to be the middle of his glove, and then at 2 nothing. As the Oilers have been Hemmed in their own zone for a minute and a half. And a soft Carter Hagee wrist shot going 30 miles an hour is headed towards the net. Maybe, maybe just catch it. No, I'm going to direct it with my block. It was like, it was like he meant to be like, here you go, Barky.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, let's jump in the handshake line.

[Ryan Whitney]

Block this thing right to you flat bark. I was like, oh, let me shoot off Reinhardt's skate for another one. Cause this guy has like, I don't know what. He had the game winner last year. He had four goals in the clincher this year.

[Biz Nasty]

But.

[Ryan Whitney]

But once again they have without besides him, Barkov, Marshawn, Bennett, Tkachuk, Lundell, loose to Rhino Rodriguez. Like, what are we. Who's going to beat these guys? Who is going to beat this team for Haggie?

[Paul Bissonnette]

You guys mentioned Sam Bennett and what his next contract would look like.

[Ryan Whitney]

I've been just sent a video that.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Sam Bennett and his dad just started.

[Ryan Whitney]

At eight more years chant at the elbow.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Okay.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, I think he's going to sign it tonight.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, he doesn't know what he's saying right now.

[Keith Yandle]

He's like eight more beers. All right.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey, let me tell you, if that.

[Biz Nasty]

Guy'S gonna slip him a little bit of a surprise that he's gonna.

[Keith Yandle]

He's like, here, sign.

[Biz Nasty]

He's signing an eight year deal for seven autographs he signed.

[Keith Yandle]

That's how he gets guys to sign.

[Biz Nasty]

He's gonna be in Caesar. Big Caesar's wheelchair getting wheeled around, signing his 8 times 7. I can't say that he signs his. Caesar's our guy, man. What do you mean?

[Keith Yandle]

You know, Caesar's down there right now. Hey, how about, how about Reinhardt quick, Sorry. The play that he made on his empty net goal. Just to show like how dialed in this team is he got the red line. Most guys, like he fought to get the red line. Most guys with three goals going for their seven, nothing. Yeah, if you missed the net, it's fine. We'll win another face up. But he, he dug in and got the red line. And if he iced, he wouldn't have. If he missed the net, it wouldn't have been an icing. Just an unbelievable. Just you could. That's how, that's the little stuff you see in a team where you know that they're a team and they don't care about accolades and who's winning and or who's scoring. It just pure class.

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[Ryan Whitney]

Morrows was at the game. He said, men versus boys. Why don't we bring him in before his trek back to Sweden?

[Paul Bissonnette]

What is up, boys?

[Biz Nasty]

No way is he actually on the beach.

[Keith Yandle]

You see the water moving biz.

[Merle]

Hey, man's happy to see you found your phone and could make it here today.

[Biz Nasty]

No, he got sick. He had to get an iv. He was out of commission for two days.

[Keith Yandle]

Buddy. I was grinding.

[Merle]

He pulled a Whitney doesn't invite us into that nice box you guys were just talking about.

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, I kicked out, so it's even, even worse. At least you were invited. At one point.

[Keith Yandle]

I was with the president of the team. I ain't bringing you in.

[Merle]

I'm like, yes, must be on. I was like, yes is in the plane. He's probably on his way to Nantucket. Around the second period, I'm walking around the concourse, I see his two daughters heading to the dessert line. Like the way Yan's is here. Guys ignoring the three of us all.

[Keith Yandle]

You think Merle's grabbed them in ice cream? No chance. He's like, you got your dad's card. I want one.

[Merle]

So I want to tell you guys a little bit about the game. You talked about the teamwork of that whole team and the organization. It was on display with the Wags. Even the wives and girlfriends were hanging out in the cold zone before the game. And next thing you know, you see, well, first Brady Tkachuk comes in, but the 30. 30 wives, 25. 30 wives. Girlfriends come in. They line up 30 shots. And, yeah, a couple of them were pregnant, so they did the water shots. But they were a team. They're taking team pictures together. So right there, the celebration was on at the start of the game, and it continued all night.

[Biz Nasty]

Merles, can I ask you one favor? Can you maybe move that thing a little bit closer to your mouth so everybody does that help better? I think it's a little bit better. Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Maybe the microphone smells the booze on his breath. It's like, get me away from this guy. Why didn't you chase the cup more?

[Merle]

Because I, I. Last year, we chased the cup till 5am and we found out they kept it in the locker room all night. So we decided to shut her down early. I was hoping to get to the Elbow Room to make it and see it, but it got there just as I had to leave for the Airport. So that was a little disappointing, but the rest of the night was amazing. I ended up in the Panther Club at the end of the night. Brooks Kepco was in there. He had a bottle of chemistry. It was like the size of Granelli that he had passing around. It was insane.

[Biz Nasty]

I. He actually came up in the TNT booth and said, hello. It's first time I've ever met him. He's like, pleasure to meet you. I'm like, oh, honor is mine. I think that he. He must have had a bag on him. He likes to have a good time. He didn't blink once in. In the. In the midst of the. The full minute that I met him. And then obviously he was off to our next segment. But he would be a guy. I asked him if. If he wants to do a sandbagger. He seemed pretty interested, so that would be a pretty good guess. And Whit, I know that you've met him before too, right?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yes, I had. I had to apologize for. For all the shit talking I'd done on him. But we cleared the air. I consider us friends now. I don't have his phone number or anything. He did say, go Peas. Ever since he said go Peas, they, like, haven't lost. And I was like, let's just start calling them the P's for. Well, the P's own everyone. And the peas make me peed pee for paranoid. Because this fucking team, I don't know where they're going. They're never. This is just the beginning. I have a horrible feeling that this is not going to stop. Merle's question for you. Is McDavid going to win a Stanley Cup?

[Merle]

Yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

So.

[Merle]

So pretty. Pretty wild rumor I heard this morning as.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, fuck off, Mercury.

[Merle]

There's the ref. Chris Rooney's just waving to me here. What a night by those.

[Keith Yandle]

Get him on here.

[Biz Nasty]

Does he get a night by those guys?

[Ryan Whitney]

They didn't call penalty. They could have called that triple McDavid in the third. At least Chuck us one power play to end this thing.

[Biz Nasty]

He's getting fitted for his ring in the lobby of Merle's Hotel.

[Merle]

I think he must be listening. He's sprinting away now, trying not to get on here. Some other. Some other stuff like these fans. These fans are like three years in a row at the copy. The guys are my wife, my. My family suffering. My job is suffering. Goes, I can't be coming to these games every. Every night, all the way into mid June. He goes, this is insane.

[Keith Yandle]

So.

[Ryan Whitney]

But I also.

[Keith Yandle]

What did you hear? What did you Hear this morning.

[Merle]

McDavid to a team that starts with the letter T?

[Keith Yandle]

Tampa. Wow.

[Merle]

And it was not Toronto biz. Seriously, that was a rumor I heard.

[Keith Yandle]

I mean, there's no state taxes in Tampa biz.

[Ryan Whitney]

Ok. I think this is time actually to play the video that I sent you. Granelli teeing up this video. I don't know if you can hear. Great. The question is asked to him, like, you know, with this core here, like, what do you feel about moving forward? Gee, can we play that video? Because this is the first time I've been scared you feel you're going to.

[Biz Nasty]

Get a few more kicks of this can here.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Just the way that the four of the guys are going to want.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, sure. Yikes. I mean, guys, that wasn't exactly like Hyman last year. We'll be back. I know. He's like, yeah, I think so. Sure.

[Biz Nasty]

That's how he answered my hot tub question a few years back.

[Ryan Whitney]

And granted, this guy just lost. Like I, I want to say, not just him, Corey Perry, Leon, the entire staff. I feel so bad for the Oilers and I'm not just saying this as a fan. Like, I've been there, I've been there. I lost one. It's the word. Like the emotions, like the it's over. We didn't get it done. This run was kind of for nothing. Like, they just dealt with that twice, two years in a row to the same team in the same building. Like, that's like, I feel truly horrible for every member of the Edmonton Oilers from player to staff, because that is just like you work and you lose last year and you know, oh my God, this how hard it was to get here, to actually get back there and then get drummed even worse. I mean, the Panthers got better and the Oilers got worse. So no wonder the series looked like that. And now you're sitting there thinking, Oilers fit. This is an enormous month for the franchise in the. In Edmond. Like this is. This is. You got to find a goalie. You got to sign Bouchard, you got to sign McDavid. You got to figure out like a top scoring, top six winger. There's a lot of questions. There's a lot of questions right now. And I understand the panic because if McDavid isn't signed before the season, like, I almost think McDavid has to be like, I'm not signing. Trade me now. Like, that would be. I, I don't, I don't know.

[Keith Yandle]

Biz Keith, I think, I think he should say, listen we got one more year if we can win it. If not, I think he should do what like NBA guys do, sign one year deals. Like he's made enough money, he can make as much money as he wants. I would sign one year deals or two year deals with teams to try to win a cup. He needs to win a cup.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's gonna be LeBron.

[Biz Nasty]

He has next year on his deal. Would you? Could you guys see maybe like a three, four year type thing, like maybe give Edmonton an opportunity maybe like for two, three more years as an extension to see if they could figure it out. And at that point, I don't think Edmund Edmonton fans even at this point would hold it against them. Like we just finished talking about it. Like they don't technically have a starting goaltender. You would agree on that. Now you're going to be having Bouchard a nurse, basically making $20 million collectively where now you can't address other issues that you have defensively. You have dry settles, $14 million kicking in. And the biggest gripe that I have, and I said this on the broadcast with, is I was very complimentary. What's that?

[Ryan Whitney]

I know what you're going to say.

[Biz Nasty]

I heard I was complimentary of the holes that they filled in like Arvidson, Skinner, Walman, Klingberg, Perry, those guys that they had to fill in those holes, worked enough to get them to the final. But I really think you, you're going to look back and how big of a missed opportunity it was bringing guys who were with you on the first experience of the run, The Fogels, the McLeod's, the Holloways, the Brobergs, like they had experienced the defeat. So not only was it so fucking dumb at the fact that probably three of those guys didn't return because it was so affordable. Arvidson making 4 million and he has next year at 4 million.

[Ryan Whitney]

And a no move. And a no move.

[Biz Nasty]

A no move. And he was a healthy scratch in a few games in the Stanley Cup Final. Skinner, listen, I thought he actually agreed. I agree with you. He played pretty solid in game four, games five and game six. I don't think really anyone was much of a factor.

[Ryan Whitney]

But Skinner was actually like the best player for the Oilers.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay, okay, say that, but he ain't the answer. But that's $7 million right there where Broberg and Holloway, they're signed. And the, and, and, and people's biggest gripe was, well, you didn't know the future of Bouchard because you knew that he was on a contract year and Then now you got to pay him 10 where it's like, let him fucking roll the dice. And if he does have this year, fucking you got your up and coming defenseman making four who I would hope that is eventually overall better than, than Bouchard. And that's not taking anything away from him, but like man, defensively I don't think his game's well rounded enough to win a Stanley Cup. I'm sorry. Like, yes, he can walk the line, yes, he could play on that power play and get points. But he, he ain't the answer at 10 million.

[Ryan Whitney]

I disagree. I disagree here.

[Biz Nasty]

I'll tell you this right now. Him at 10 million is going to be the exact same as you're talking about Nurse at nine and a half.

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't care, buddy.

[Biz Nasty]

No, I don't care about your points. You just had the guy having a career year. He's playing, he's playing regular season games with Connor McDavid and Dry Seidel. Yeah, he made. Yes, he had incredible offensive numbers in the, in the, in the cup run. Dude, they fucking breezed by the first three rounds, man. Like they played against a Stanley cup team. And like it was exposure. It was exposure.

[Ryan Whitney]

So they played against one team that is so much better than everyone else. Biz, you can't. I understand. When you see Forsaken 10 million dollar defenseman. Well, well when you see Forsling making 6, 6, 2 and you see Jones getting paid 75 by them. No, but in terms of the league like he is. I don't know. This is where you talk about Florida has this advantage. I Bouchard, you cannot compare him to Darnell Nurse. Like you need a guy breakout passes.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm saying that, I'm saying that you're gonna look back in a few years and be like we're paying these two dement 20 million bucks and we're never gonna win with that situation. So that's what I'm saying is when they were basing their decisions of oh, the Broberg, The Holloway, the McLeod's, the Fogels. And, and, and mind you, you talked about that team mentality like McLeod was loved in that locker room. Holloway's a dog, Broberg. Like he was the best defenseman in the Stanley cup finals last year. If you go watch that series again. So not only are you bringing back that like camaraderie and natural fit, you're trying to replace it with something new that those guys ain't even going to be around next year. Like, like you're telling me they're not going to try to move off of Arvidson. They wasn't even playing in these games, bro. They don't got Skinner anymore. Is Perry gonna keep playing?

[Keith Yandle]

He's coming to Florida, guaranteed.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, there you go. Exactly.

[Ryan Whitney]

Good. That means they'll lose. And I. And that's not even a chirp. Like, I feel so sick for that guy.

[Keith Yandle]

I know.

[Ryan Whitney]

Horrible. The last six at his age, and then this year, he.

[Keith Yandle]

That is like, why does he look like Ellen DeGeneres?

[Biz Nasty]

No, it is.

[Ryan Whitney]

I think even Panthers, like, fans see that, and they're like, oh, my God. God, I feel horrible.

[Keith Yandle]

He. And he showed.

[Ryan Whitney]

Unbelievable.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, he was a dog. Like, never given up. Being in front of the net, taking abuse. What an animal. Where's.

[Biz Nasty]

Where's, is Capitan coming back?

[Ryan Whitney]

No, they have big issues, dude. They have big issues.

[Biz Nasty]

What are they going to do with Evander Kane? He's got one year left on his deal.

[Ryan Whitney]

They got to get him off my team. Get him off my team. The ending of that. And I understand, like, Hayden Tachuk, that goes back to the Battle of Alberta, but, like, buddy, he actually was getting sent off the ice. I'm like, I wonder if he'll come back out to shake hands. And he didn't. Like, come on, dude. What are we talking about here?

[Biz Nasty]

So, look, so of all those people I just named, like, okay, Corey Perry might come back, but you're more than likely going to have the same, same amount, if not more turnover when not only could you have re signed or brought back three, three of those four guys that I mentioned, but maybe all of them if this was handled appropriately. So now you got two years of getting that taste in your mouth just like Florida did when they were banged up against the Vegas Gold Knights. But they brought back majority of their core. The Oilers are fucking this one.

[Keith Yandle]

This one has to hurt way more than last year's. Like, it, like, way more. Do you think, do you think their window is. Do you think their windows still open a little bit or it's closing hard?

[Ryan Whitney]

I said last night, if McDavid signs there, say it's four years. Ideally it's eight, but, like, say it's four. I don't see a world where those two don't win a Stanley cup because we've never seen two players like this not get a Stanley Cup. There are enormous issues, but I, I ju. I think their window's still open. If, if he doesn't resign. I, I. What the fuck are they then?

[Biz Nasty]

You know, what's going on.

[Ryan Whitney]

I would imagine Then Leon goes, trade me, and then it might all end.

[Biz Nasty]

You know what's going to happen if McDavid does sign? He's going to get 18 and a half million. And between Bouchard, Dre Seidel, Darnell nurse, and Connor McDavid, ladies and gentlemen, your new Core Four. Your new Core Four, ladies and gentlemen.

[Keith Yandle]

Come on, don't let him pass that buck. To you wit, do not let him pass that buck.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's the range.

[Keith Yandle]

But they've made it to the finals two years in a row.

[Biz Nasty]

Bo, quick math. Other than next year with McDavid only making 12.5, I believe. Can we get the amount of money that 18? Half. 18 and a half. 14. 9 and a half and 10 for Bouchard. Add that up and divide it, what the cap will be a year from now.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's like 53ish. Yeah, dude, that's not good. I know, but.

[Biz Nasty]

But that sounds pretty core fucking forest to me, folks. Can we get the two cup finals?

[Ryan Whitney]

You haven't even got out of the second round, bro. You trying to compare. This is fucking crazy.

[Biz Nasty]

Hey, same amount of mugs, buddy. Same amount of mugs.

[Ryan Whitney]

If that's honestly the fan bases that say that, it's just pathetic. It's pathetic. It really. I actually think it's pathetic to say same amount of mugs. Like, bro, that is the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard. They. They lost to Game 7 this year. They lost to an even better team in game six. They weren't close this year. But you're talking about not getting out of the second round. And I'm not even disagreeing with you about the four and how much money they're going to be making. But if they have a goalie. McDavid and Leon are just so much different than the elite players on Toronto.

[Keith Yandle]

But where. Where there's nowhere to get a starting goalie. Like, no team's giving them up. And then, like, they don't just grow on trees, right?

[Biz Nasty]

You think they'll sign Oldie?

[Keith Yandle]

Ooh, maybe. Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Like even. Okay, so biz, like McDavid goes to Toronto in this fairyland world of yours, like, what's he making 18 there? What do you think you're going to do with that?

[Biz Nasty]

Same story.

[Ryan Whitney]

We're talking about teams who win with guys making elite. Elite players making 6 to 10. Like any. I don't know. What are you dancing at?

[Keith Yandle]

I think he's listening to the pink.

[Ryan Whitney]

Tell me. So if he goes to Toronto and he's making 18, like, what are you going to do. It's going to be the same thing.

[Biz Nasty]

It's going to be glorious.

[Ryan Whitney]

I mean, all right, we're not having a serious conversation.

[Biz Nasty]

We are having a serious conversation.

[Ryan Whitney]

The whole argument is that if you're making 18 and another guy's making 14 and two defensemen are making 10 and one of them sucks, you're fucked.

[Biz Nasty]

I, I think that your, your D core with those two guys are making 20 million, and I believe our entire D core is making about that. So we're spreading out the money a lot smarter. I would say that Toronto, Toronto, with 20 million spent on their decor is a better decor than the Edmonton Oilers have. So that, that's my argument. And then now all of a sudden, we got our strength down the middle in McDavid. And then Matthews is getting second line matchups. We got Marner.

[Keith Yandle]

Were we even talking about the Leafs right now?

[Biz Nasty]

Because I said that it's the new.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Corp.

[Ryan Whitney]

Morris is just like, I heard he's going to a T team other.

[Biz Nasty]

Than the Panther club.

[Keith Yandle]

He was like, the Thrashers, let's go.

[Biz Nasty]

Back to pumping the Florida Panthers tires. I mean, who else didn't we call? We, we, we, we tire pump the fourth line.

[Ryan Whitney]

I know.

[Keith Yandle]

I mean, Gadjevic, you could tell they love Gazovich. And no, I saw no sick hugging Maurice. Like, just like you can tell those guys mean something to each other. Right? Like you said Whit earlier. Like, they, they truly, like, everyone says it, your brotherhood, your family. Like, it really seems that way. Especially like Gazevich in the locker room with his hairy back giving out the. I think he gave the player the game to the backup goalie before, after game five. Like, little shit like that goes a long way in a locker room.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'll tell you what I took away from seeing the celebration is that look on Brady Tkachuk face. Sorry, Ottawa. Hey, I'll bring down every other team with me right now. He ain't staying around there much longer. You could tell he was looking at him, he's like, he just won another one. Like, I'm fucking out of, I'm out of Ottawa. Sorry. Like, that's not the look I'm talking about either. It was a different look. He was just like, this motherfucker just got another one. He got another one. I, he's talking about, oh, I'm going to win the gold medal next year. I, I right now am, am a little on tilt, no doubt. Because, yeah, I don't, I, I just stick to that. If McDavid stays, they're going to win. Are there a million question marks? Did they completely up the off season last year? Yes. Are there question marks? Yes. Where do you find a goalie? I don't know. I just never seen two players like that. If they stick together, not win one. And they've gotten pretty damn close. They've got like. That's the thing when people say, like, oh, McDavid's gonna leave. McDavid's gonna leave. Like, part of them has to be like, well, where else is going to give me this good of a chance? I have a running mate. We've got to the finals. Last two years, we've just. We've been better than every other team besides Florida. So why would he think he can't do it in Edmonton? And. And if you want to troll biz.

[Biz Nasty]

Go ahead, but I'm not.

[Keith Yandle]

The west is a gauntlet, too. To come out of the west is a tough. Like that. That's a tough division.

[Ryan Whitney]

And they ran through those teams after the first two games. So it's. It's like, all right, I'm going to go chase a cup, LeBron style. Well, where are you going? And what are you going to make? What are you going to make? Yeah, because I see all these fucking teams with, oh, my God, look at that guy's contract. What a contract. That's why they won the Cup. Look at that guy's contract. Holy. He's only making that. That's why they won the Cup. That'll never be the case if he's making 18, and I understand in Edmonton it'd be that. And Leon's making 14, so maybe they are.

[Biz Nasty]

I think he came to your senses there.

[Keith Yandle]

He deserves the 18.

[Biz Nasty]

That's the Edmonton core foilist.

[Ryan Whitney]

Admit to me I'm. You're just as I'm. Say it because how are you not if I'm.

[Biz Nasty]

Because we have way better goaltending than you. We have a better decor that's making reasonable money and we have a ton of cap space where we can address our problems. In the off season.

[Keith Yandle]

Solars was the backup for Florida. Bro, it's not like you don't get.

[Ryan Whitney]

Better than Marshon if you don't get Bennett Marchand or Nikolai Ehlers and that's even a reach. You're fucked. You're losing. 100 points scorer, dude. Like, you're fucked too. You're fucked too. Just like I'm fucked. Join the club, buddy. I think the only one who's not fucked is the rich guy going to Nantucket on a private jet in Two hours.

[Keith Yandle]

I think, I think biz that people saw the way that Mitchie Marner was treated in Toronto. No one signed in there, bro.

[Ryan Whitney]

I can't talk about Toronto.

[Biz Nasty]

Yes, we should move on. We should move on.

[Ryan Whitney]

I can't do it.

[Biz Nasty]

I think it was a great discussion about who's in trouble and why. And the reason that there should be a state tax implementation implication on the cb, new cba, because this team will just continue. My prediction now is that they're going to win two of the next three cups in Florida.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. If they come back there, if those guys go back, they'll win it again next year.

[Biz Nasty]

Do you think, do you think if they won two of the next three cups and then all of a sudden we get Sam Bennett, let's say, let's even say it's an eight times 7.75. Okay. And then Marshaw Reed signs three years at let's say five and a half and then Aram Ekblad and yeah, as I was going to say earlier, I'll make you a bet, okay. I'll bring you to Houston's restaurant or you're going to bring me to Houston's. You're saying Aaron Ekblad is going to make 7 million. I'm going to set the number to be a discount.

[Keith Yandle]

That'll be a discount. If he says.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm going to say, I'm going to say he resigns in Florida for closer to four. So if it's five and a half, it's five and a half or less, I win the bet. If it's five and a half or, or more, you win the bet because it's closer to your seven number. Is that a deal?

[Keith Yandle]

Deal.

[Biz Nasty]

That's a Houston stake right there, folks. More goat coming down my gutlet but I think that they're going to be able if they do that to the next three years. Do you think that conversation grows and actually ends up getting changed? Like if we see a situation where, where it we go on a six year run where like three of the four states.

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, four of the four, five past cup winners. I mean Tampa, Tampa, Florida, Florida. And then Colorado was in the middle and Vegas, I'm sorry, Vegas. So five of the last six are no state tax.

[Biz Nasty]

So let's see.

[Ryan Whitney]

Losers maybe.

[Biz Nasty]

What if we go on another let's say five year run here, okay. Of three of the four teams in the final four being no state tax and the other One is, is McDavid and dry side, I'll try to drag their team fucking to the finals and actually be competitive for once. What do you think's happening?

[Ryan Whitney]

See, the problem is there's the argument of, like, they are just beautiful weather, amazing places to play. And like any. Any devil's advocate of this, no state tax, teams having a legit advantage. They have this point, like, it's Vegas, it's Florida, it's Dallas.

[Keith Yandle]

Like Buffalo was no state tax. The people still wouldn't be signing there, buddy.

[Biz Nasty]

But they. Buddy, in five years, the cap is going to be. Let's say it's 150 million because the way it's jumping now, I want to say it jumps 9 million after next year again now because of the revenue and how. How the league's thriving. When it gets to 150 million, you're going to have 15 extra million dollars to play with. It's just going to keep getting worse and worse, guys. It's going to get worse.

[Keith Yandle]

I saw Marty Walsh last night. He wants to come on the pod and he'll be able to break all that down for you. Busy.

[Ryan Whitney]

So I would imagine.

[Biz Nasty]

Saying that I'm a dummy.

[Keith Yandle]

No, no, no. I'm just saying he'd be able to talk about it.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, okay. All right.

[Keith Yandle]

But I said that. Said. Oh, sorry. BX has said. I think it was BXA that said it to us. He was like, listen, like there were compensation. When you play in Canada, you get paid in American dollars. So if you're making 10 million, it was really 14 or 12 million Canadian. So, like there are other.

[Biz Nasty]

You're not spending it all in Canada. You're renting a house, you're. Yeah, we, we can move on from this conversation, but it's going to become a problem because Florida's not going anywhere. Who else can we tire a pump? I believe that it's the first time in any major sport that a Coach has went 25 years of coaching without winning the championship and then doing it back to back. So there you go. Paul Maurice, he leaves the Winnipeg Jets. He feels that maybe his. His words are falling on deaf ears and he can't get through to that core. And, you know, it's not his team anymore. He just had that feeling inside. He goes down to South Florida and now puts back to back runs together. Third straight trip to the Stanley Cup Final. Yeah, potentially a Hall of Fame coach. Maybe guaranteed hall of Fame coach at this point.

[Ryan Whitney]

Potentially not potentially.

[Biz Nasty]

There you go. Hall of Fame coach.

[Ryan Whitney]

I think he's. Is he second or third all time wins top five for sure. Got two cups. And then like you Talk about Nate Schmidt getting the cup first. Undrafted, over 700 games. Maurice had him in Winnipeg. You can't tell me that it wasn't like, hey, I know what this guy is, and his teammates love him. And he goes in and Nate Schmidt looked like fucking Bobby Orr in that series for some of it. He had five or six points in the series.

[Keith Yandle]

I mean, first series, he had like three goals.

[Ryan Whitney]

Remember, Kulakov is like. Kulakov's like running around like fucking Scott Stevens. Because you just. You have the feeling on that team, I am invincible. Like, if anyone touches me, there are a pack of rabid dogs jumping over the top of them and defending me. It is a. It is a team. It is. It is an unbeatable franchise right now with the hall of Fame goaltender, too. So, I mean, there's a stat here about Bob.

[Keith Yandle]

What's Bob? 36, Sergey Bobrovsky.

[Ryan Whitney]

He had his shutout broken late in the third period, obviously, but he's now the fifth goalie in NHL history with at least two Stanley Cups and two Vesna Trophies and 400 career regulation wins, regular season wins. Martin Brodeur, Patrick Waugh, Terry Sawchuk, Jacques Plant. Jacques Plant. Did he even have a mask?

[Biz Nasty]

No.

[Ryan Whitney]

There was times Bob didn't need a mask. This series, which, mind you, I was telling my brother in law, watching last night with me, I'm like, you can't score on them low. Like, I. I don't know if you guys see. I don't think a goal went in on him low.

[Biz Nasty]

And Jonathan Quick. He's Jonathan Quick.

[Ryan Whitney]

And then like, they're still shooting low. It's like, buddy, you can't. That series was such domination. And what. And. And what looked to be so close after two. Two heading home. But deep in the hearts of Oilers fans, you probably knew, right? Like, no, I. I was like. I was like, holy shit. They. Some. I said last night, it. It just felt so Team of Destiny. Ish. And I'm talking like the way they looked in the regular season. Everyone's injured, and then all of it starts gelling together and then they get blown out in the first two games, and then boom. This run starts 12, 2 in the next 14 games to win the West. You're like, and this is this. These are comeback wins. These are wins that they have no business getting. Jim Hiller reviewing the goal. What's it? Byfield not getting the puck out. It just kept going. A picker comes in, which six could roll. Skinner comes back, looks great. I'm like, this is destiny. Then they win game four. I'm like, they have no business being tied in this series but somehow they are and somehow they're going home. And that's the effort they gave in game five at home. That's the takeaway that game five. Now is it more that your effort is that pathetic and you guys played that bad and you. The first period of game five. I mean what the fuck are we doing here? Or is it just that the Panthers are that good?

[Biz Nasty]

They're.

[Ryan Whitney]

They're too good.

[Biz Nasty]

Let me ask you a question.

[Keith Yandle]

How many guy, how many guys from this, this run, which it obviously isn't over, get their jersey retired here?

[Ryan Whitney]

Barkov, Kachuk, Forsling.

[Biz Nasty]

Are you kidding me? He's their best defenseman.

[Ryan Whitney]

I understand but like Duncan Keith, he's.

[Keith Yandle]

Like the Brooks or pick of.

[Ryan Whitney]

Offensive superstar. Duncan Keith did what he did defensively and offensively was a superstar. Con Smyth winner. Borsling is just an incredible shutdown. Defenseman.

[Biz Nasty]

Bill Zito cried like his wife had just given birth to their first child when they signed Forsling to that deal. I guarantee you by the time Forland's done his his career with the Florida Panthers, he is going to the rafters. He. I'm going to say it right now. I have all the respect in the world for Jacob Slavin. He has been dethroned as the league's best defensive defenseman. That will go to Gustav Borsley. I'm not fucking around bro. He shut down fucking McDavid in back to back Stanley cup finals in his prime scoring one fucking goal. One pod Colzing had two goals this playoffs in the Stanley cup finals.

[Ryan Whitney]

Great, great.

[Biz Nasty]

So Gustav Forsling is going to the rafters.

[Ryan Whitney]

I thought they were coming back when he buried that one last night. Said you never know. You never know here. Paul Colzin pod Colson actually showed some heart, some fight in that game. Let me quickly just talk about.

[Biz Nasty]

I also want to mention Sam Bennett doing what he did with Kachuk being banged up on his line for basically the entire run just even solidifies that Con Smythe even more. And I know that people, the, the anti 10 million people out there online, all the fucking spreadsheet folks there, that, that, oh, he's only had one 50 point season in the regular season. Who gives a flying fuck? Because when the game is worth something and you're fighting for a mug, who are you fucking taking that guy at 10 million or the rest of the fucking free agents involved? Who, who you picking?

[Ryan Whitney]

Who's your dog at 10 million? I'm not paying him 10 million. I, I've argued with with you over the. I, I think I would do anything to have him on my team. I'm not paying him 10 million because on a team where he's making 10 million he does not have those five or six other guys where he is then able to just kind of sit back and not get the matchups and end up scoring 15 goals like he has Barkov Reinhardt for Hagee Martial like he's not a 10 million.

[Keith Yandle]

But I will say wit he has earned the right to be talked about to get that 10 million whether it's.

[Biz Nasty]

In two or three years. 10 million is what an elite second line center is going to cost you. Who do you want going to fucking war with? Nikolai fucking Ehlers is going to get fucking paid 9 million in free agency because he's a fucking water bug out there. Sam Bennett just scored more goals in this playoff run than Nikolai has in his entire playoff career. The anti. But hey, he had more goals. Send me your spreadsheets. Send me. You only had 50 points the regular season. I don't give a flying. They half their team didn't even finish the regular season. They were just resting them. They didn't even care about winning their division. All they cared about was the first game of playoffs. They didn't care whether it was at home. They didn't care whether it was on the road. They didn't give a. And then they tied or beat the NHL record for most road wins in a Stanley cup run with 10. And who scored the most fucking goals going into the other fucking team's barn? Third Fucking Teen by Sam the Menace Bennett, baby. 10 million all day. You guys hear me in the chat? 10 fucking million, baby.

[Ryan Whitney]

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[Keith Yandle]

He wasn't there yet for haggie waivers before him. That was before.

[Ryan Whitney]

Dude. He traded a first round pick and Devin Levi and got Sam Reinhardt, Nate.

[Keith Yandle]

Schmidt, like go down second overall in a goalie. Like a unestablished goalie.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And they are attractive place to be, attractive team to want to be on. It makes it a little easier when you got Kachuk wanting to go there out of the gates when he, you know, was in Calgary and kind of force that to happen. And what a. What a move. What a move.

[Keith Yandle]

People forget he chose. He wanted to go the only way.

[Ryan Whitney]

He was going to ask you that. Was that all him? Like, yeah, I want to sign in Florida, so get that done.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, yeah. He. He was like, you know what? This is my career. I'm picking where I'm going. I'm not waiting till ufa, which is I think unbelievable to be able to do that, to have the balls to do it.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yes.

[Keith Yandle]

But it all comes down from. His dad was the same way he sat. Didn't he sit out one year with a contract.

[Paul Bissonnette]

He wants what he wants. He wanted what he wanted and he was in a position and he.

[Ryan Whitney]

I know, but what made him think that's where it's like. What made him be like Florida. Like imagine the sleeping Giant. They've been a sleeping. Like they've just. They haven't done anything. And it was just. I think everyone within the league knew at some point they're going to get it figured out and everyone's going to want to go there.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Did you guys see Bark or Zito grab the cup last night? Which I love the celebration. He was like. He was on the verge of crying but also murdering like a human being. Like it was one of those like passionate, like crazed looks from Zito. It was. It was. I love the way they let the guys handle the cup first. That had never won it. Which was great for tv. I didn't want to cut away. I didn't want the. And waited till Marchand and Kachuk and these guys got it later. So it made everything kind of stick with the whole celebration. But Zito was Zito's ability. And this is what it comes Back to. And I was listening to you guys talk about the Core 4 and Edmonton's Core and signing back and getting guys here and yes, it's like how do you get Marshad, how do you get Jones, how do you get these guys on these deals and how does this happen? And identifying and it's roster construction as well in what kind of team and mentality and culture and playing style and identifying players that can come and get. You think they're going to get Marchand if it's Willie Nylander? You think if Willie Nylander's in that spot that they're going to go, oh yeah, he's a good player. Does he fit? Look down their lineup of production this season and what production they have, who's their. Who, who led their team in points and how many do you have? Like it's not, it's not impressive. But when the puck drops come playoffs and the playing style is, is what it is in a seven game series, their idea of how to play the game and their guys. There he is, this fucking lunatic. Look at this man. This man just constructed his idea of what a team should look like. And yes, he's fortunate that it's a desirable place and he wants to get guys there and guys want to go there now obviously, but he constructed an identified players that can come in. I mean look at the celebration.

[Biz Nasty]

You guys, you guys just said why did Kachuk choose there? Like they literally won the President's trophy the year, that year he decided to go there that, that offseason.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's true.

[Biz Nasty]

Like they had, they had the making, they had the makings of that and what they decided to do is Florida got rid of their Mitch Marner and that's no disrespect to Huberto. He put up 115 points that year. But clearly Zito didn't think that he had the makeup of what a Tkachuk has and that, I mean you, you're buddies with him. Yan's like Huberto is a very well, like guy. Unreal player, skill out the yin yang. But as you just mentioned, army like yeah, that 115 point season looks really nice on paper. But I, it's, it's clear that he didn't think it was ideal that they were going to win a mug with that type of player and swapping out.

[Ryan Whitney]

Beat them that year, Tampa beat them that year. And Zito's like we are not tough enough and what fucking players out there when you're saying we ain't tough enough. Literally like the two Tkachuk brothers come to mind. And Matthew Tkachuk didn't want to be in Calgary and the rest is history. Because now we're looking at. Like he said last night, coming down here has changed my life. Like, well, you. You've changed the lives of all these fans and, and, and, and viola. All these employees. Like he was, he was the difference maker.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Who is.

[Ryan Whitney]

Barkov had been there, but Barkov. And this actually sounds bad. It's not Barkov. Like he just needed that, that, that bad guy to be with. Like Barkov is. Is a machine Barkov. I tried. I. Who did I text last night? Who. Who can you compare Barkov to? Nobody. Like Kopitar. Maybe better he's now. Yeah, they want to. And LA fans shut up wit.

[Biz Nasty]

But like.

[Ryan Whitney]

And recency bias I get. But look, there's nobody like Barkov.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Every shift. I was like, snarl.

[Ryan Whitney]

Did you see the. The shimmy shake Barkov made in the corner before the third goal? I don't know who he walked. It was just like, I'm like this.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Guy so dirty for a big guy. Like he has that quick like pop up and it's gone.

[Keith Yandle]

You should see him do the ladder. He does the ladder before games. It's the most impressive thing because he, he, he could have been a professional tennis player. He had to like choose one or the other at some point. So his, his footwork is off the charts. And for a big guy, he's got big feet too. Like to be able to do what he does, he puts in the work to do it. It's not just God given. He works on it every single day.

[Ryan Whitney]

Like I would say quickly, Army Goldie who came on was that Monday he made that. He told that story that he was talking to Zito, like, wow, like kind of swinging for the fences here. Trade uber Doe Brinkachuka. And he just said to him, like, if you knew what I knew, like, this is not swinging for the fence. Like he knew.

[Biz Nasty]

And I would imagine, I would imagine Sam Bennett had probably given him word on. On what they created. Right? Cause Sam Bennett was traded before him, correct?

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Was he not there for a full year or maybe even a little bit over a full year?

[Keith Yandle]

A year and a half.

[Biz Nasty]

We tried a year and a half. So he was probably like, bro, like, it was a nightmare for Sam Bennett playing in Calgary. And then obviously after that trade from Kachuk going down there, he essentially dismantled both teams in Alberta. I mean, it just took a little bit longer for him to do the next.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah, Bill Zito's A God. Bill Zito constructed a perfect playoff team. I think perfect timing for the style of hockey that's played now in the NHL. I compared it to like a throwback, broad street bully style for this modern day game of what they did. You know, you look at, you guys were talking about, like, who's, who's the Florida Panthers core for? It's, it's, it's Bob Barkey, Kachuk and what, Reinhardt or don't.

[Keith Yandle]

Don't give them a core four. They got a core 20.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Don't even look at their, look at those.

[Keith Yandle]

Don't put that on them.

[Biz Nasty]

No, I would say, I would say.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Ryan, look what the way they play.

[Keith Yandle]

Play.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Look at what their guys are and look at the positions that they're in as well, where they have a goalie, a marquee. Unbelievable. Hall of Fame.

[Ryan Whitney]

They're all making short dough.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

They don't get it.

[Ryan Whitney]

I think any team. All right, all right, B, you're right. The cap in six years is 145 million. Like, if you got four guys making 55 million, I think you're. I, I think. I, I don't. Unless you have entry level players making an impact, which none of these teams have. Right? There's like Chicago was winning cups at least at the beginning with like guys on entry level deals dominating like that. That's not happening with any of these guys.

[Keith Yandle]

Also turned into hall of Famers. Like, they're not just random guys. Like, it's Kane team.

[Ryan Whitney]

If There are any GMs that are listening to this show or scouts and I. And, and you're crazy if you are. Or any scouts that go on to be GMs. If Bill Zito calls you and has a trade in. In line with you, hang up the phone, dude. You're getting fleeced, you're getting owned. Like, obviously every trade he's made is working, dude. Spencer Knight, like, nice prospect goalie. Like, you got Seth Jones for him. These are, these are, these are shit kicking trades.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Everyone's was done. Everyone's like, Seth Jones is done.

[Biz Nasty]

No, no, no, no. The idiots, the idiots in Chicago thought that that's it. The idiots in Chicago.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Maurice doesn't even have to coach the guys. He doesn't have to do maybe a couple tweaks here and there. He said it. He said it. That bench runs itself. Guys know their jobs. When you have a team that he has and the character guys, he has too. And we can go back to Tkachuk and Barky and what he is there and all their Guys, and you bring in anybody that has a little bit of dog in them, you automatically are there. Look at Ekman Larsson. Look at guys that have left last year. Look at guys that difference makers. Look at guys that, like, even, like, the biggest changing was Tkachuk. And, and it turned Barkov the year they lost. Can he be physical enough in that big body guy enough. And he stepped up in that. And they lost. They lost to Vegas. And now he's different. And it's attitude, it's culture. It's the dog.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's the dog called Harshawn. The biggest dog he's ever played with.

[Paul Bissonnette]

No, he's losing it.

[Biz Nasty]

How much, how much do you think of a ticket that Barkov handed over to Schmidt when he handed him the cop? What do you think he makes now? He went from 800. 800. What do you think he's going to sign a. 3 times 3.

[Ryan Whitney]

I imagine that Florida. Yeah. What he. He'd probably be like, hey, whatever you want to give me, I'm sticking around here.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

You don't think he's gonna go get.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Like an Oliver you let.

[Ryan Whitney]

Maybe, maybe Schmidt. How much money is Schmidt? He could be a guy. When I say that Bennett, Marshawn and Ekbad are crazy to leave for a couple more million a year, I, I, I, I'm standing by that. You're nuts.

[Keith Yandle]

If you leave, I agree with you.

[Ryan Whitney]

I get Schmidt, I'm gonna look up his career earnings. I kind of get that one.

[Keith Yandle]

In terms of, like, army, it's like, it's like Whit said earlier, like, those guys, like you said, that bringing in dogs like Ekman, Ekman, Larson and Schmidt, those guys weren't dogs before they got turned into it. They turned like they come here. Turned into dogs.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yes.

[Ryan Whitney]

Nate. Schmidt made 40 million guys, so he might just be like, yeah, give me three years. Times two and a half. Nikola makes two and a half.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yep.

[Keith Yandle]

How many years does he have left?

[Biz Nasty]

Army? What do you, what do you think Ekblad takes to stay there?

[Paul Bissonnette]

What's Darnell. What's he making right now?

[Ryan Whitney]

Darnell?

[Biz Nasty]

He makes six. Six or six and a half.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I believe 995 for Darnell. He'll like, why doesn't he just make the same. I think, you know, let's be honest. He's been, he's been like, well paid for a lot of bad years and been there from the start. And, you know, yes, it is what it is, and they were what they were. But now maybe on the flip side, and if he loves it There. And he wants to be a lifetime cat. What does that cost? Maybe.

[Biz Nasty]

What?

[Paul Bissonnette]

The same. Maybe taking a little haircut to fit everyone else in and go for another cop like six years.

[Biz Nasty]

Four million.

[Ryan Whitney]

Four million. He's made 64 guys.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Why would he leave?

[Keith Yandle]

No, he doesn't. I don't think he wants to leave in this team. They wouldn't have won these cops and been to three straight finals if they didn't have him. Like, he is a. Like he's a stud on that back.

[Paul Bissonnette]

End culture team, too. It's a culture team. These guys love each other. These guys want to win. And like, I would not be surprised if all those guys that could potentially leave all get done to Wit's point and they win another league.

[Ryan Whitney]

Should be every fan base in the chat, every fan base listening. Later on, you better hope and fucking pray that these guys leave because they're going to win again. They're going to win again. Bob. Bob is.

[Paul Bissonnette]

He's not 37 next year.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's getting old, this guy. It doesn't. And, and, and like Biz said earlier, literally, they do not care where they finish. Get us in the eighth spot. Just get us in. We'll win again. They didn't have home ice in one series, guys.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Hey, we were talking about this at the games when we were down in Florida and we were, you know, I think it was over dinner and everything. One of our great Chiclets dinners, by the way.

[Ryan Whitney]

Thanks, Keith.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Great setups all the time down there. We were talking about Alex Lyon and the Alex Lyon run and the year that they lost to get him in there and they kind of turned into this Panther club and Keith could chuck calling him pussies and like all this stuff, but like, Alex Lyon should have a statue outside that arena. Just started everything, you know what I mean?

[Ryan Whitney]

It's crazy.

[Biz Nasty]

If Pittsburgh didn't lose to Chicago, would Florida not have made playoffs?

[Paul Bissonnette]

Buddy Robinson with a high tip slot goal to sink the Penguins down the stretch.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey, forget.

[Biz Nasty]

How about.

[Ryan Whitney]

How about Marshawn with the breakaway in Game 5 in Boston?

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yes, that too.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, my God.

[Biz Nasty]

Scores on him now, doesn't he?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, that's your. That's that's the destiny that he ends up going there. And he could have up ended. Ended this before it even began. It's just.

[Paul Bissonnette]

That's their hill or no goal challenge right there too. That's like that moment for them because they just.

[Ryan Whitney]

By the way, on that breakaway, he shot low on Bob.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Bob. Unbelievable.

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't think so, Brad.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Hey, Unbelievable run boys. I gotta say, what a, what a year for the boys. Unbelie. Like what a year for hockey. From four nations to the playoffs that we had that were crazy to Olympic top six rosters being named across the board the other day, awards being handed out, videos all over social surprising guys at their lake houses. Just great performances and a playoff for the ages and getting to do it all alongside you guys and the merman and G and Fish and Pasha and. Holy shit. Memesy. It was, it was what a year boys. What a year. And I was complaining we went too long in June. But a.

[Biz Nasty]

That's a conversation we should have. I don't know.

[Ryan Whitney]

Let me. I was going to bring that up. Florida was playing Tampa, Edmonton was playing la. Montreal was playing Washington. Five years ago I saw the highlights of the a sports that did an awesome 5 minute video of the playoffs.

[Keith Yandle]

I was like, guys look younger.

[Ryan Whitney]

That was this playoff. Like we got to do something. We. I think I'm on business bandwagon of taking on the NFL. Let's just play on Sunday.

[Biz Nasty]

They need to do games on, on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and maybe one other night of the week. I would probably say Fridays would be the best other night. And load them up in, in September, October, November, December. Until obviously playoffs for football is over. I know it goes into January, but fuck, you gotta kind of, you gotta go business as usual at some point. But the whole idea of like oh, not competing with the NFL guys, like it's so stupid. You're wearing everybody from. You're, you're, you're, you're wearing everybody down from the players to like even the people who work for the league. Like we had people who are working for our production team with TNT who were taking three fucking flights to get to Edmonton in, in the middle of June. Like what are we doing here? Like this is. I.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, I know, I, I will, I will.

[Keith Yandle]

I. I think with the Olympics next year, won't it go longer? Won't it be.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, it'll go a little bit longer. I'm adamant about starting the season the middle of September, if not right after. Is it called Labor Day in the United States? Yeah, Maybe that's start September 10th, Memorial.

[Ryan Whitney]

Day, Memorial Day 10 to 15th. Give out the cup at the latest. June 3rd, 4th.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yes, yes.

[Ryan Whitney]

100 still have free agency July 1st. Still maybe have the. You could have to draft a little earlier. But this is, this is something where Bettman is so adamant and maybe owners are on his side of not going earlier against the NFL and college Football. Like, every fan is like, guys, this is ridiculous. Every single fan.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm telling, I'm telling you how stupid the, the, the, the don't go against the NFL on Sunday's argument is because if you take the amount of viewership that these teams are getting, like in the early games of the season, you might have like 250,000 people watching an NHL game. Maybe even less in most cases of these matchups. Like, people are already on their couch watching sports. Half the NFL games suck in their blowouts. They're already on their couch. You take the laziest day of the week that is designated to one sport, people will change the channel if it's a boring game. Even if they change a channel over for 10 minutes, it counts as a view. Try it. Try it. I'm not saying, like you base your whole schedule around dropping games on Sundays. You do the Tuesdays, the Wednesdays, because those aren't when NFL plays. They have the Monday night football, they have the Thursday night Football. Friday seems to be a big high school football day. So I think that's the other day that you could roll. And then Saturday's college football, Sunday's NFL. Don't know how much you want to fuck with those, but man, there's, there's a time to get it done. And I'm hearing that the, the NBA might start their season now after Christmas, like January, and then they would go to the end of summer that they're thinking about doing that. So I, I just, I don't think that people, enough people and casual fans care about hockey in the middle of June. I think it's a lot easier to sell at the end of May when people are still kind of not in summer mode and you're not fighting with patios and cottage country. That's just my opinion.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Roll.

[Ryan Whitney]

Last question. Rollback. Last question. I'm gonna ask you guys. We don't have a guest. Use code chiclets on rollback.com Generous 20% off your first purchase through the end of the week. C H I C L E T S on R H O b a c k.com 20 off all polos, shorts, swim trunks, and more with code Chiclets. Army biz. Where is Brad Marchand and Sam Bennett playing next year?

[Paul Bissonnette]

Oh, I can easily answer that. You want to go biz?

[Biz Nasty]

You, you start us off Florida.

[Paul Bissonnette]

You can't put a price on happiness. You got two guys that fit like a glove. I think Marshan as a all time, he's a Bruin, he's a Bruin talk. But I think him going down there, his family, South Florida, winning, the culture, it just fits him. He's had a great career. What those contracts will look like for him as an older guy is a two year deal. Is it a three year deal and that's it. He just takes it. How she going? That's my career. And I think Bennett, you can't look to what I said too. You can't put a price on happiness. And where he fits. And his dad's up there in the balcony at the elbow, chanting, eight more years. He's chanting, eight more years. I think they find a way to get a fair deal done where he can be happy and they can stay down there in Florida. I think they're both there.

[Biz Nasty]

I agree with army and I think that Marshaw is going to be like, it's basically a double barrel to the fact that they wouldn't give him that number in Boston. He says, all right, I'm going to take my, my winning ways, my, my culture, changing habits. I'm going to, I'm going to bring them down to South Florida. I'm going to stay there and I'm going to win some more mugs. And it's just going to go back to Bill Zito and exploiting these, these other GMs around the league that thought that they were ahead of the curve and smarter than everyone else by trading valuable assets that still have a lot of gas left in the tank for a first rounder.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Fit and timing. Fit and timing. Fit and timing.

[Ryan Whitney]

I mean, how about the last two playoffs? Florida Panthers have played Connor McDavid 13 games, Kucherov 10 games. Austin Matthews seven games. Postronox six games. Panarin six games combined. David four goals, Kucherov zero, Matthews one. Pasta one, Panarin one. Yeah, you cannot. No one else shuts down superstars like this team.

[Keith Yandle]

That, that, that means you have to keep Ekbad. They need to keep Echbad his size.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right, so if you could keep two of three of Marshon, Bennett and Ekbad, who are the two that you're keeping? Keith, Because I think you actually only can keep two of them.

[Keith Yandle]

Really?

[Ryan Whitney]

Of those three.

[Paul Bissonnette]

How much?

[Biz Nasty]

That's why ekblad's gonna take 4 million.

[Keith Yandle]

I think four is too low, like maybe six.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's like half of what he makes. Almost.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

But once again he's made.

[Paul Bissonnette]

If I'm Zito, I come to him and I say, hey, you got paid very nicely through your entire career here. We weren't good. Now we're good. Now it's time for you. We'll, we'll, we'll do the deal. But we're getting the cap low. We're going to do, you know what? A seven, eight, eight year deal.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's what they could do is they're.

[Biz Nasty]

Going to go, they're going to say, take this $4 million or we're going to go just sign the next Nate Schmidt. We're going to go get the next Mikola. We're going to go get. We're going to go get somebody who's a way better player than what they're making because they're coming here to use our culture and our environment to uplift them. And then if you want to go get your bag after your next mug, go ahead, because we're just gonna find the next guy to replace you. That's how it's gonna go. And Ekblad ain't going anywhere. I bet you he doesn't sign for much more than $4 million. I bet you Brad Marshaw signs for five and a half. And I bet you they get Sam Bennett for 8 million maybe just a hair under. And it's going to be signed, sealed and deliver. And I'm telling you, they're gonna win.

[Ryan Whitney]

There needs to be like a, a conga, you know, when Congress meets. Like. Yeah, what are those called?

[Biz Nasty]

The summit of the union.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Summit.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, like, like all of a sudden, like the Democrats and the Republicans come together. The Panthers just resigned, all of them, and none of them are making more than eight. Ekbat's only 29. Fuck. I know that'd be hard for him to take an eight years, six times four million a year.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Hey, Tree living is going to be like that Cory Booker and talk for 48 hours straight. What do they call that when that guy just puts on a clinic and he just fill a bus?

[Keith Yandle]

TED Talk.

[Biz Nasty]

TED Talk. Yeah, TED Talk.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And then he brags about it after how long you talk for? Yeah, like, I don't know how. Like, I think that's the culture. I think that's how they do it. I think Keith has said that no one's going to make more than Barkey. I think it's just going to, you know, I think everyone's happy. I think lifestyle and team and fit matter and I think you got guys in the right spots of their career. 27 to 30 years old. In the case of Marchant older, where they, they got him in a great spot.

[Ryan Whitney]

And he said that Keith said, apparently they don't even want anyone making more than forsling on the back end.

[Biz Nasty]

Let me ask you this.

[Keith Yandle]

What Jones does now so that that was prior. What if. What if Ekblad signs like a 8 by 8 or 7 by 8 somewhere else? Then Zito trades back from but that other team.

[Biz Nasty]

I wouldn't be shocked.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Zito is a machine man.

[Biz Nasty]

I wouldn't be shocked. They could probably, they could probably flee Chicago into doing that with, with Massachusetts state taxes and that.

[Keith Yandle]

Where was that?

[Biz Nasty]

Massachusetts.

[Keith Yandle]

Never heard of it.

[Biz Nasty]

I don't know. You guys know what I'm saying? You said with there's a taxed. You said that there's like a new rich person's tax if you make over a million bucks. So if you count the state tax, including that tax and, and federal state income tax, if you were making 7 million in Boston, what would your tax rate be? Would you say it would be at least 50%?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

If not more.

[Keith Yandle]

Chusetz biz. That's what they call it.

[Biz Nasty]

So, so if. So essentially, if I think Marshaw wanted 7 million in Boston or is what he was asking for right a three.

[Ryan Whitney]

Times seven offering him like 4 million a year.

[Biz Nasty]

I think they offered him what he was making are a little less than what he was making. And I think he makes like just over 6. So I think that they offered a him around the 6 million range is what I heard. So I believe you doing math. Oh, no, I'm, I'm saying I think that if he makes five and a half, if he signs a deal with, with Panthers at five and a half, he's essentially like making seven in Boston.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

So yes, it's not really that much of a hometown discount for him.

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, he, I, he, I imagine they'll. There might be a team that's like July 1st. Hey, Marcy, like here's like eight, five for three years after what he just did. Biz, you're crazy to not think of a team out there will do that.

[Biz Nasty]

I agree with you. But he, he's like good buddies with Crosby transit him in the summer. Like he's the same type of fabric. He, he like Brad Marshaw cares way more about the fact that he's going to have two or three Stanley Cups by the time he retires now. And by the way, now there's no more debate of whether he's a Hall of Famer or not. Brad Marshaw is a Hall of famer. All four of us agree on that.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yep.

[Ryan Whitney]

100%.

[Keith Yandle]

100%.

[Ryan Whitney]

So Florida has Bob Barkov, Marshawn, Matthew Tkachuk and maybe Reinhardt like, honestly, the way Reinhardt's going. You may laugh at me right now. Dude, talk to me. Five more years of fucking Sam Reinhart.

[Biz Nasty]

How many?

[Ryan Whitney]

He's going to score 200 goals in the next five years.

[Biz Nasty]

How many? How many 50 goal scorers have been nominated for a selkie the year after? Yeah, it's true, Mike.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And the thing I would say, two boys. Look at those guys too. They're not blowing your doors off with speed.

[Biz Nasty]

I mean, no.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Chuck went to the Pat Maroon skating school like in St. Louis. They went to the same guy. Like, they're not laser beams on the ice. They're good players. They're like culture style players.

[Keith Yandle]

Their D or their best skaters.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yes.

[Keith Yandle]

Forsling me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can fly, but that's really it.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Hockey IQ battle level, ability to play in traffic, like hard, tough skill. They all have it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Bennett, they can all play outside in that series.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Whether it's Florida inside, whether it's Florida.

[Ryan Whitney]

Doesn'T let you to the inside or just how many times did you see Leon and Connor just wheeling around the outside in the offensive zone? Florida's like fine. Skate around there all shift. I don't care.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Unbelievable the way they're.

[Keith Yandle]

Other teams get panicked with that. With like when they see them, it turns into chaos.

[Ryan Whitney]

They're just like strong and strong in the box here.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Net front, skate around all you want.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Boys, I'm out. Great job. I want to give a shout out before I go Game Notes also on Friday. Tune in, be there. Me and Murdog, great talk about this season again. I want to give a shout out to Cruz. It's his birthday today. Happy birthday to my boy. We got him home. My mom came into town. Pink Whitney all around.

[Ryan Whitney]

Look at the body armor, Cruz.

[Paul Bissonnette]

That's a good mix.

[Ryan Whitney]

Pink Whitney body army. Last question.

[Keith Yandle]

Army athlete.

[Biz Nasty]

If you had to pick one moment this season, outside of your kid being drafted to the Western Hockey League, which is obviously very personal, what was your favorite game notes moment? Maybe the NCAA tournament. That's always a fun time for you guys. But. And by the way, incredible run. I really felt like Game notes brought it to the next level this season.

[Paul Bissonnette]

We had a good year. Thank you.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, you guys really stepped it up with your coverage, your insight and obviously your fan engagement with the chat and everything. So from a. From a overall podcast standpoint, we want to thank you, Pasha, Grinnell and of course Murph for our guys work.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Berta running it for us too. Just unbelievable crew we have underneath you guys. And it Was a great year. The thing that stands out for me or the thing that was like, really cool for us is kind of in the middle of late, middle of the season. I think he just broke Chris Chelio's franchise record for most point, most game point streak by a rookie defenseman. We had Lane Hudson on, who ended up winning the Calder trophy this year as a guest now friend of the show on game notes. He was like our first actual hockey player interview. We kind of have outside the box college stuff. We have those guys kind of on. But NHL guy was great to really get a stud like him on quiet guy, but was fun and good interview for us, and that was a great moment. But just being on boots on the ground too, at Frozen 4 and getting to take that in again in St. Louis. Unbelievable. And getting to see everybody there. So we have those great moments. And guys, the American League still going. Abbott's first Florida teams in, it seems in it. Charlotte lost last night 6 to 1. They're down two games to one. That series is still going on right now. If you still have some. Some hunger for hockey, the American League is there for you.

[Ryan Whitney]

In the final chat, it says the somebody said their favorite moment of game notes is when Merles invented hockey.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It's his idea, boys.

[Ryan Whitney]

His idea invented. Yeah, he built the cup.

[Biz Nasty]

Hey, all jokes aside, though, you like. You guys come up with a lot of great stuff, and Merls is actually an idea guy, and he sends some stuff to the chat sometimes that obviously gets the ball rolling. So you got to give credit where it's due. And. And now that it's an inside joke with a pot, it makes it even better. So thank you to the hockey God, Merls, who invented it.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, he says the idea, and then we don't do it. And then later on we do it, and he's like, I told you, it's.

[Keith Yandle]

Maybe my favorite bit in the world.

[Ryan Whitney]

So they were back at the Elbow room. What, at 8am did they stay in the locker room again?

[Biz Nasty]

They're right down the street from. I was gonna. I was gonna actually pop by. Like, if we weren't doing this, I would have popped by and I would have went and shook their hands, man. Like that. Like that. That was such a. A ridiculous performance front to back, where I have so much respect for those guys, even though they bent my team over. No spit, no lube, sandpaper finish, some of those. By the way, I think we had over 110 currents on our YouTube. We might even still have that watching live. I know we don't have any of the players on today. We want to let those guys go, enjoy their moment, get faced, spend time with friends and family and. And really bring in the celebration. And we're going to be coming back to you guys at our regular schedule programming on next Tuesday. And that'll be the last pod we have before our free agency pod. We're going to try to get Elliot Friedman on, who knows everything about that. So expect next Tuesday. Like, I would personally love talk to Paul Maurice. I would love to get him on. Brad Marchand has always said that he would come on. Come on when he's done playing. I think this is maybe a special case. And the fact that he put me in a fucking body bag halfway through the year when he was with the Boston Bruins and he's. And, and he's really been abusing us all season long. So maybe we can call in a favor and he'll come on the pod earlier than expected. We know Tkachuk's gonna come by because he's a WWE rock star and the guy does it all. He's a quote machine. He'll fucking kill anyone. He'll chirp anyone. He'll score on anyone. And is there anyone else you guys think you would really want to talk to? Like, I feel like. Bet he's gonna say five words. He's gonna be Hannibal Lecter in our screen. All he's gonna do is give us the death stare. And would. Would you wean. Do you think we get Sasha Barkov on?

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, you might say less than any.

[Biz Nasty]

But yeah, maybe get them on together so we get a full sentence.

[Ryan Whitney]

Just doing the show. They just sit there and listen.

[Biz Nasty]

But that's kind of.

[Ryan Whitney]

I can't thank everyone enough for watching. It's. The fact we get to do this for a living is. I'm so grateful for it. I know you guys feel the exact same. The best fans. This one stings. The only thing that would have been worse is if they somehow pulled that out. And then we all went out to Edmonton and then they lost game seven at home. I guess if you're looking for positives, that didn't happen. But thank you to everyone. Thank you for the chirps, for the compliments. It doesn't matter because if you're tuning in, we thank you. We love you all. I don't know where we go from here. It's in the next month for the Edmonton Oilers could change the course of their entire franchise. And what happens. And I'm nervous, I'm scared. But I also can't help but respect and be in awe of the Florida Panthers and what they've done, what they've built and how they've done it. And I don't think they're going away anytime soon with just disgust me. So everyone out there, biz, finish it off here.

[Biz Nasty]

I was just going to say from a different perspective, we do have Pasha, who is very good friends with Sam Reinhart. I'm sure he would end up coming back on the pod, but I would like to hear quickly what his experience was like going down the ice and getting to share that moment with him. What's up, Pasha?

[Ryan Whitney]

When did you go to sleep?

[Pasha]

I went to sleep at 6. 6am Shot down. Yeah, it was a long night. I mean, like, how much more can you say about this guy, Rhino? Like, this guy. It's unbelievable. Like, he got the first goal, and I'm like, okay, well, everyone knew that was coming. Big game player. He'll get one. Got the second. I'm like, you know what? Still not that surprised. Gets the third. I'm like, okay, you can't make this shit up. This is incredible. Then when the fourth one, I literally was like, this is just like, this is storybook, legendary shit. I kept saying it on the ice to him and his family after, like, this is going to be like a Jeopardy. Answer question, like, 50 years down the road type thing. You know what I mean? Like, only the second guy to ever do that. The other guy was Rocket Richard 70 years ago. So I don't know if that's good.

[Ryan Whitney]

Company or not, but that's pretty good.

[Pasha]

That's pretty good. Yeah. It was incredible to see him do it again. And it was just like, you know, you know, his family there. Paul Reinhardt, who Paul Biz didn't even know played in the league. It was great to see.

[Biz Nasty]

No, no, no, no. Okay, okay. So listen, we did Biz does bc. Sam Reinhart was. Was kind enough to be the feature guest in episode one. So we throw, like. What do you call it? Posh. Like a.

[Pasha]

Like a. Like a watching party. Like a premiere?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, like a premiere watch party. And. And Paul Reinhardt comes, and I meet him for the first time. I'm like, oh, like, congratulations on your son's success. Like, oh, like, did you ever play hockey? And he's like, yeah, over 700 games in the NH he had more than.

[Ryan Whitney]

Me and you combined.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm not a hockey historian here, folks, so I apologize to the Reinhardt family for the disrespect, but I think they've done enough damage now in the hockey community for us to acknowledge their greatness and what they've been able to accomplish, with also his brother being drafted in the first round, fourth overall to the New York Islanders.

[Pasha]

Islanders. Yep. Yeah. And then Max dropped it to the flames. 56 overall, I believe.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey, crazy. And. And once again, shout out Buffalo. Devin Levi in a first tough one. And, and, and, and just seeing the picture last night of Eichel and Reinhardt and Ryan O'Reilly celebrating a goal in Buffalo.

[Biz Nasty]

It's like, oh, my God, four cups.

[Ryan Whitney]

Pasha Pozo the year before on the ice into the locker room, then take us through. Was it locker room till 3, 4am Again, or.

[Pasha]

Yeah, it was similar to last year where it was just the. Everyone was staying in the room with families, came in having a great time. The only wrinkle that didn't happen last year, that came in this year, probably about 30 minutes in, you hear everyone going, shoot. And Maurice comes in and basically he was like, hey, we'll give you guys 10 more minutes. But in 10 minutes, everybody get the out, all the floaters out. I just want only the players. And we're spending 15 minutes together, just the players. So he gave everybody the boot. He said, don't go far, don't go far. But we need the time for the players. So they did their own thing for 15 minutes, and then they opened the doors back up, let people back in, but just the vibes were just immaculate in there. It was. It was awesome. And, and honestly, this. This might pain you wet. You might have already seen the clips, but they come in, Kachuk comes in, someone grabs a speaker. First thing out of Kachuk's mouth, he goes, hey, put on pick Pony Club.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Oh.

[Pasha]

And they played that song they played. It was every third song that was.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Played, the whole Pony Club.

[Pasha]

It was unbelievable.

[Biz Nasty]

This guy's a true villain.

[Ryan Whitney]

That. That kind of showed me that. Like, we heard and we already said, like, how vicious the shit talk was and below the belt, like, crazy shit. That, like, that shows how. How much those teams hate each other because usually you win, you beat them again. It's kind of like, I don't care. Like, that was more like a just a final fuck you to Edmonton. I always had heard that winning the cup on the road was almost better because you had the time of just the team. And I think it has changed where teams are flying in so many family members when it happened, but before that didn't happen. And so it's kind of cool. Maurice this year was like, hold on. And Henrik Lundquist said it amazing on the broadcast like, that that makes you miss playing so much. Like, thinking of the 50. It was just 15 minutes, and they'll never have it again because no matter what, there won't be a guy here and there. And that 15 minutes. And, like, thinking of just the hugs and the admiration for each other, that's when you're like, what a sport. And I miss playing. Not that I ever got to do it.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, no, I'm glad you brought that up. Like, the point he made is basically, like, it makes you, like, seeing what they were able to accomplish and how they did it. Just makes you miss so much being a part of a team in that type of atmosphere. And, I mean, I was able to do it in the ahl, which is. Is nowhere near, obviously. Stop. Y. I'm saying is that. No, buddy, listen, I. I know it's a championship. I, I Championship, man. Afterward, you're just like, you know what you went through with those guys. And, like, I barely contributed. So, like, just to be. Be able to, like, be in that locker room and have fought with those guys for months on end to have to accomplish something, knowing what, like, type of pain guys are playing through and the sacrifice and everybody, the whole family sacrifices. You guys know that. But just. Just remarkable now, now that they've won two in a row and are we allowed to go back to last year and tell that funny story between you and Aaron Ekblad now that time has passed?

[Pasha]

No, we can't do that. But I will say the tradition continued this year.

[Biz Nasty]

No way.

[Ryan Whitney]

No way.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, come on. You. You. No, no. You're able to tell the story. You have to. He won't get mad. It's. It's all in good. Good. It's all in good.

[Ryan Whitney]

You did it again.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Again.

[Biz Nasty]

What was the problem? Why did you get to do it this time? No, tell the story.

[Keith Yandle]

I don't even know what it is. I don't even know what it is.

[Biz Nasty]

So tell the story.

[Pasha]

Long story short, last year, I had met Akblad at. At Sam's wedding two summers ago. So then I see him on the ice last year celebrating the copy skates by me, and I'm just like, hey, what's up, man? Congrats. And he just kind of gives me this dirty look, and he shakes his head, and he goes, truba's my best friend. He goes, I heard what you said. He goes, troop is my best friend. And, like, pigeon tosses me, and I'm.

[Keith Yandle]

Like, okay, like, what you Say, oh.

[Biz Nasty]

What did he say?

[Ryan Whitney]

I had a little.

[Pasha]

Yeah, we won't get into that, but. And then I would say like three, four times throughout the night, like in the room or whatever. He'd walk by and just like, look at me and shake his head and be like, troop is my best friend and keep walking. But like, each time he'd soften up a bit and start smirking a bit towards the end as the night, as he got more drunk or whatever and. And then flash forward, end of the night, 2, 3am, we're getting on a bus to go back to like where they all live, like a few of the different couples and whatnot. And we're walking out and there's a cop there with a taser. And I don't remember how it came up, but basically he's like, oh, like you left that cop Tasey right? Now we'll let bygones be bygones and squash the beef. And I'm just like, what? Like, obviously I'm like apprehensive. I'm like, I don't know. And he's like, oh, it's not that big of a deal. Not that big of a deal. I'm like, okay, if it's not that big of a deal, like, you do it with me and we'll do it. And he goes, fine. So just boom. Both of us tased beef squashed. Just had to do.

[Biz Nasty]

I feel like they gave you a little bit more juice on the taser though. He got the light one, you got the heavy dose.

[Keith Yandle]

You probably thought you were getting deported.

[Ryan Whitney]

I can't believe you got tased.

[Biz Nasty]

No, it was ice. It was ice.

[Ryan Whitney]

Believe you got tased again.

[Pasha]

And so last night, I see him in the room. First thing I see him, he just kind of like gives me a look in the head and I go, are we doing it again? And he goes, we fucking have to. We fucking have to.

[Ryan Whitney]

They're gonna win it again.

[Pasha]

So same thing. Parking lot, corner of the parking lot, loaded up. Boom, boom. The old double Tase. It's tradition now. It's tradition.

[Biz Nasty]

I'll. I'll make a promise to Brad Marshaw. If he comes on, I'll let him tase me. If we can get him for an exclusive interview on Tuesday to get. Get the pod popping. But that's incredible posh you had to tell that story. And with that being said, yance, give him 7 million a year.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey, I'll finish it off, Pasha. Thank you.

[Biz Nasty]

Unreal. After hours.

[Ryan Whitney]

What a What a what a what A time for him. Pasha, as much shit as we give him, he's the fucking best. He's the best guy. Great friend. So obviously very, very happy for him and Reinhardt, I mean, what are you going to say? You got to sometimes tip your cap. That's been my line. And my final thing is like, I met you with the Oilers. Like, McDavid, he has to win a Stanley Cup. Like, we're talking for, for. If he doesn't win a Stanley cup, like, things are a lot different. Like, money's not different, fame's not different, but in his heart, it'll be different. If he were to go on and leave the Edmonton Oilers, like, being a former player, I, I, I, I really, I wouldn't hate him. Like, you have the right. You really do. It would, it would crush me. It would crush Oilers fans. I would not be somebody who hates him. I would end up being pretty fucking disgusted, though, if he doesn't tell them. Because he knows. He knows if he's going to leave probably in the next month or so, right? If he knows, he has to tell him, like, hey, I'm not, I'm out. And they have to trade him and try to get something. It's disgusting to say it. I've never really felt this way. This loss is just, maybe it's just the heartbreak of it all and, like, how fresh it is, but I've never felt like he was going to leave. And then seeing him last night, it's just like, maybe this guy is just like, I'm not, I'm not going to be able to do it here and I got to get a cup. So this next month is going to be a wild ride. It really is.

[Biz Nasty]

But shout, you still haven't, you still haven't won anything since the peewee tournament.

[Keith Yandle]

No, that's not true. He won the member guest last week.

[Ryan Whitney]

Won the Boston Golf member guest last week.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's cool.

[Biz Nasty]

Good point.

[Ryan Whitney]

On the wall forever.

[Biz Nasty]

Before we sign off, I kind of just want to go back to the thank yous. Obviously you, buddy. Like, you got three kids, man. You had to grind out this whole run. And you were obviously a good sport on today's podcast after being shoved in a locker. Like me. G, our producer, he's been with us since the beginning, guys. Ever since he, he emailed RA and it just so happened RA's mixer broke. Army and Merles, the game notes boys, as you mentioned, Yan's, like, this is your first full season on board. I couldn't be happier with, like, with not Only like what you've provided our pod, but just getting to hang out with my buddy again. Like you were the best teammate anyone could ever have asked for. And I, I said even at the beginning of the podcast, the fact that I got to share that last night with you and your family in the booth next to us, Fishy, who's been helping behind the scenes. You know, from a. Helping with producing game notes with the, the college hockey stuff with Chicklets. You, Nick, who we added pretty recently. Obviously we already mentioned Pasha Memesy. Like memes. He's a fucking content machine.

[Ryan Whitney]

I think he's moving to Florida. Like just which.

[Keith Yandle]

No, he's staying.

[Ryan Whitney]

Anything ever made more. Forget Marshawn Bennett staying there. Like he needs to be there.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, I'm moving to Florida too, so maybe I'll live with Mimzy Coke can Berta who's helping with. With all the game note stuff as well. Another ad. So our team is growing and listen, there's been a million questions online and, and it was a pretty difficult year like from a personal standpoint from us with obviously ra's absence. RA is going to be back, guys, to, to some form in magnitude with this podcast. We're obviously still dealing with that. He's doing personally very well. I texted him the other day, so I know that we were pretty silent on it. We wanted to, to handle that stuff in house. He means the world to us. He's the godfather of this podcast. So just know that we're going to continue to work through this and I, I would really hope that next year when we hit the ground running that RA is back to being a part of the show. Because, you know, he's the, he. He's the, he's the lunch pail guy. He's the blue collar guy that most of you listening can relate to and that's why we love him. We just needed for him to take a step back in order to get better, in order to not only improve himself, but ultimately, you know, what we got going on here and we need him at his best. So we appreciate you guys for your, not only your support, especially the ones who weren't like aggressive about it and trying to stir things up online. And we look forward to for you guys seeing the RA that you guys remember and the one that brings you guys a lot of smiles. So not gonna lie.

[Ryan Whitney]

Last night down in the dumps, I was like, I could use RA in a plastic diamond encrusted choker on the ice right now, shit face. So I'm glad you brought it.

[Biz Nasty]

We love him.

[Ryan Whitney]

We gotta get it back. He had to. He had to get. Get right. And it's a great team we got here. We got a great team and. And we thank and without you guys. We always say this. The fans watching. We love you all. The Oilers, they lost again. The Panthers are the greatest team in the NHL two years running. And sometimes you got to tip your cap. I love you all. Have a great.

[Biz Nasty]

We love you.

[Keith Yandle]

Love you boys.

[Biz Nasty]

Away.