Spittin' Chiclets Episode 572: Featuring Matthew Schaefer

Summary

Spittin' Chiclets Episode 572: Featuring Matthew Schaefer – Detailed Summary

Introduction

In Episode 572 of Spittin' Chiclets, hosted by Ryan Whitney, Paul Bissonnette, and Mike Grinnell from Barstool Sports, the team dives deep into the tumultuous landscape of NHL free agency with a particularly strong focus on the Florida Panthers' recent moves. The episode also features an exclusive interview with Matthew Schaefer, the first overall pick and newest member of the New York Islanders.

Celebrations and Set the Tone ([00:00] – [00:59])

The hosts kick off by sharing their experiences celebrating July 4th and Canada Day with Pink Whitney, highlighting how it was a hit among adults despite the absence of kids. This segment sets a relaxed and celebratory tone before delving into more intense discussions.

Free Agency Frenzy

Florida Panthers’ Strategic Lockdown ([01:00] – [05:56])
Ryan Whitney expresses intense frustration with the Florida Panthers, who have successfully retained their core players, including Barkov, Kachuk, Reinhardt, Bennett, and others, through significant contract extensions until 2030. Whitney's exasperation is palpable as he states, “So fuck, that's it. That's it for me. That's it for my.” He criticizes the Panthers’ management, particularly GM Bill Zito, for not being recognized with GM of the Year honors despite their strategic prowess.
Mike Grinnelli adds, “[...] I would blackball that motherfucker the first chance I got with the way that he's handling.” The hosts discuss how the Panthers' attractive location in South Florida and their cohesive team culture have contributed to their success, predicting, “They're gonna win,” emphasizing the team's dominance.

Toronto Maple Leafs’ Calculated Moves ([06:00] – [27:58])
Shifting focus to the Toronto Maple Leafs, the hosts analyze the team's offseason decisions. They commend the Leafs for their strategic signings, including securing key players like Mitch Marner with an eight-year deal worth $12 million per year. Whitney remarks, “I thought it was a great offseason so far for the Toronto Maple Leafs,” highlighting the balance the team has struck between building a strong foundation and maintaining financial flexibility.

The conversation touches upon the Leafs' approach to developing young talent and managing the salary cap, with Grinnelli noting, “I see a world where he's putting up 40 to 45 points every year and being a great shutdown defenseman.”

New York Islanders’ Ascendancy ([28:00] – [52:00])
The Islanders emerge as another focal point, with the hosts praising their acquisitions and overall team strategy. They discuss the addition of Matthew Schaefer, the first overall pick, and how his integration into the team is expected to bolster their lineup. The team's commitment to developing young talent and maintaining a competitive edge is evident, with Bissonnette stating, “With that, we can see what St. Louis can do with this young crew.”

Other Teams and Broad Free Agency Impacts ([52:00] – [55:15])
Brief mentions are made of other teams like the Carolina Hurricanes, who have made significant moves by signing players like Stankovin to an eight-year extension. The hosts also discuss the Utah Jazz's positive buzz, noting their exciting prospects and team improvements.

Exclusive Interview: Matthew Schaefer ([68:23] – [113:53])

Introduction and Early Experiences ([68:23] – [74:00])
The episode features an engaging interview with Matthew Schaefer, the newest member of the New York Islanders and the first overall pick in the recent NHL draft. Schaefer shares his excitement about joining the team and recounts his experiences attending the Stanley Cup Final, emphasizing the electric atmosphere and camaraderie within the rink. He mentions, “[...] the fans are awesome. [...] I got to meet all of them. They’re amazing.”

Development and Training ([74:00] – [85:00])
Schaefer delves into his development process, highlighting his training regimen under Assistant Coach Mark Giordano. He discusses the balance between maintaining his youth and adapting to the NHL's faster pace, stating, “There's a lot of things that he like teaches me to like, you know that's more game situations where a lot of people love the skills.”

He also touches upon overcoming personal adversity, including dealing with a significant injury during the World Juniors, and the support system provided by his family and teammates. Schaefer emphasizes the importance of enjoying the game and maintaining a positive mindset despite challenges.

Personal Stories and Team Dynamics ([85:00] – [113:53])
Throughout the interview, Schaefer shares lighthearted anecdotes about his interactions with teammates, his passion for hockey, and his aspirations within the league. He reflects on his bond with players like Brad Martin and expresses gratitude for the mentorship from seasoned players like Mark Giordano. Schaefer concludes by reiterating his commitment to personal growth and contributing to the Islanders' success, “I think Jov can get 40 points to 45, and [he] being a great shutdown defenseman.”

Closing Remarks and Future Outlook ([113:53] – End)

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the dynamic changes within the NHL and express optimism about the future prospects of the teams discussed. They tease upcoming episodes, announce a short break for rest, and mention exciting events like the upcoming Boston Chiclets Cup scheduled for September 25th-27th.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Ryan Whitney [02:48]: “But that's not fair that they all got to stay. I. I'm not kidding. I. They're gonna win.”

• Mike Grinnelli [04:34]: “I would blackball that motherfucker the first chance I got with the way that he's handling.”

• Matthew Schaefer [70:10]: “It's the first time I was at Long Island, and the fans were awesome. When I step on the ice, they're all cheering for me.”

• Ryan Whitney [107:04]: “I think there's a lot of hope that he's going to be an absolute stud.”

Conclusion

Episode 572 of Spittin' Chiclets offers a comprehensive and lively exploration of the current state of NHL free agency, with particular emphasis on the Florida Panthers' strategic player retention and the Toronto Maple Leafs' balanced offseason moves. The highlight of the episode is the insightful interview with Matthew Schaefer, providing listeners with a glimpse into the mindset and aspirations of a top NHL draft pick. The hosts maintain their trademark blend of humor, candor, and expertise, making the episode both informative and entertaining for hockey enthusiasts.

Transcript

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Head to heydude.com barstool to shop our favorites. Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is Bastool Sports. Our white whale, Sydney Crosby. Ryan Whitney Paul Vinette RA Mike Grinelli. Spitting Chicklets. Welcome everyone. How you guys doing? Episode 572 of the Spit and Chicklets podcast presented by Pink Whitney. I hope everyone had a wonderful fourth of July in Canada Day. Pink Whitney was flowing in Nantucket. We had it just everywhere. All over the pool, the backyard. Nope, nope. Kids weren't around it but the adults were loving it. And I hope other people enjoyed some Pink Whitney on July 4th or Canada Day. Responsibly with the big bottle, the little nips, the middle bottle doesn't really matter, but Pink Whitney represented on this island on our nation's birthday. So I don't know what you guys think, but the only thing I have to say about this show and recapping free agency is the fucking Florida Panthers for Christ's sake. Keith. There wasn't a way in my mind they were keeping all of them. I don't get it. I don't understand it. I do get it actually. Because how amazing of a place it is to play and what Viola has done there and what Zito has done there.

[Mike Grinelli]

But.

[Ryan Whitney]

But Christ for that's not fair that they all got to stay. I. I'm not kidding. I. They're gonna win.

[Mike Grinelli]

Even jamming you up. Like, I mean, what the.

[Ryan Whitney]

I. I had. I was wait. I'm like, all right, Bennett's going back there. Probably Marshawn, but I'm not sure. But Ekblad's gone. And no bing bang, boom. Suck it Wit. Suck it. Rest of the league suck at Eastern. It doesn't matter. Everyone just suck it. Oh, Giant. What was that wrestler? Suck it. What was his name? Keith? Triple H. Triple H. Suck at hockey. Because we're all coming back and it's an absolute joke. That's pretty basically what I have to say this show.

[Mike Grinelli]

What was the group. What was the group that used to do the, like, the Suck it. They used to go, is it X? Pac was one of them.

[Dan Carcillo]

Yeah, they were nwo. New World Order.

[Mike Grinelli]

Oh, yeah. What an era.

[Dan Carcillo]

The Wolf with the Wolf Pack yet. But do you even saw it at the draft? Like every team's drafting these kids that are 6, 5, 6, 6 because they know they're going to have to play the Florida Panthers who aren't out there chasing bags like guys on your guys's team. Our guys are staying right in South Florida where it's a beautiful year round. Getting going to the rink in their golf carts. We talked about it. Putting that rink downtown where you can drive your golf cart to the rink. It's two and a half blocks from the ocean. Like the fact that it wasn't there the entire time. This team would have won a Stanley cup every year the last 20 years.

[Mike Grinelli]

All I gotta say, boys, there's a bunch of Panthers fans complaining that Bill Zito hasn't won GM of the Year the last three years. I wouldn't vote for that fucking guy either. Are you kidding me?

[Dan Carcillo]

GMs vote on it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, that's the problem.

[Mike Grinelli]

I would blackball that motherfucker the first chance I got with the way that he's handling.

[Ryan Whitney]

He can get his name engraved on the cup, but I ain't voting for for him.

[Mike Grinelli]

Not only would I not answer his phone calls, I would have his number blocked for any type of trade he's trying to make off. I'd block his email, any type of communication. I'd hire a PI against him. That's how much he's been in guys over right now. So just an absolute master class and I would imagine at some point in time the. The other GMs stop colluding and actually vote this guy GM of the year based on the work that he's done and and his staff too. It's not just one guy, but just an incredible job. I was actually the opposite and was on Yan's side about it. I thought there was a way that they were going to figure out how to get all three. And it just goes back to the fact that guys want to play there. They got the new practice rink. Like you mentioned, the group of guys, like the one thing that was. I mean, I told the story about Bush going down at the jw and then all of them were in the steam room together right before. I believe it was game six. Or maybe it was game five. Excuse me. After they've blown the. The lead the game before. And then just every time they go to dinner on the road, it's a. They got 20 guys who they, they put in a reservation in for and most guys show up. So that is just a tight knit group that I believe. If I had to put my life on the line, I would say they win one more Stanley cup in the next three years, guaranteed.

[Ryan Whitney]

I would be shocked if they didn't win another cup in the next five.

[Dan Carcillo]

Three and five. Three and five.

[Mike Grinelli]

And you know what's even crazier is that Bob, after next year comes off the books at 10 and I would be he's going to be taking like a $3 million deal with all these bonuses that all these other guys are getting past the age of 35.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, who was saying on our group chat they have like 28 million in cap space after next season or something? Like I. Yeah, the Bennett one made total sense. And you know, he ends up 8 by 8. Like biz. You were giving him 10 million. I know Jason Greger was on you for that, but whatever. Eight by eight, like eight, they wits.

[Mike Grinelli]

Mike's kicking out. I'm not going to insult him or imitate him like he does to me when my mic kicks out. Unless you want to give it a rip.

[Dan Carcillo]

No, I'm not good at impressions.

[Mike Grinelli]

Me neither. Not as good as Whit Whitson, Nantucket. He's got a, you know, a $6 million house that Sidney Crosby built, but for whatever reason can't get wi fi.

[Ryan Whitney]

I Wish it was 6 because if it was 6, it'd be worth like 12 now. I'll tell you. Hold on, let me start a new quick.

[Mike Grinelli]

You think hov stealing your Internet? Is that what's going on?

[Ryan Whitney]

No, I actually don't know what's happening. I don't even know if it's my Internet. It just keeps saying the mic's unplugged. I think it's the Panthers. I think it's Zito. I honestly think something's going on with somebody within the Panthers organization. Let's keep torturing that big ear.

[Mike Grinelli]

Well, he's a spiteful guy. And you went dash six in that one game. Seven in about three games, what was it, 10 years ago? So I think he's still making you pay for it. Any guy who, any guy who doesn't show up for their organization, he'll ship you to fucking Mars. Just like Bezos's old lady. But what. They got married, by the way. Do you guys see 50 million, $50 million wedding.

[Ryan Whitney]

What happened, what happened to her face? Like, what is she doing? She was incredible. I saw these pictures of her back in the day. I think she's had a lot of work done. I don't necessarily agree. I don't know how we just got here.

[Dan Carcillo]

I mean, maybe your Internet, the being.

[Ryan Whitney]

In Florida, talking about the Panther plastic.

[Mike Grinelli]

Surgery, the work she's got done, or your Internet.

[Ryan Whitney]

My Internet, my Internet. Because she still looks like a wonderful woman. Congratulations on your marriage to Jeff Bezos. But yeah, I guess Florida plastic surgery. And maybe I could probably use a little plastic surgery, if we're going to be honest.

[Mike Grinelli]

You say that is they actually are now offering 50% discount on boob jobs if you, if you re up your season tickets. So. Yeah, so. So we're going to get Caesar a nice set of tits. You know, he's going to look great for the, for the new year and probably what's going to be a three peat, right? So Caesar's going to be out, out of his bust. But where were we right before that? Yan, I think you. Like I said, you called it, you knew they were going to bring these guys back and not only are they the talk of, of the hockey, but talk of free agency.

[Dan Carcillo]

Yeah, I just, I. And obviously biased too, but just living down there, knowing how fun it is to play and then you know, these guys are winning. Like there's only such certain amount of teams that can build this type of dynasty where you can have a certain group together and have a chance to win every year. And I think that group has, has realized that like Eki, Eki probably would have got 8,9 million on the free agency market. He's, he's making what, 6.1 or 6.2 like that's a, that's a huge hometown discount. Like, we talk about Sid and Latang doing it like those in Malkin doing it for years. Like, they're doing it. Obviously they're still getting paid handsomely and they're not missing any meals. But it, it's one of those things where when you get to go home from the rink and the sun's out, you can go play golf, you can go play tennis, you can get away from the game a little bit. Like, it, it really does. Like, you don't really have any bad days like biz. You know how it is. You live in Arizona, the sun's out, like, everyone's in a good mood. So I, I think a lot of that has to do with, you know, living down there. Obviously what they built. But it's, it's these guys realizing, hey, we stick this together for the next seven, eight years. Like, we got a chance to win every single year. And they've tasted, they've tasted it. The taste of the. Twice in a row now. And it's like, we want to do this more. They're not just satisfied with one where, you know, some guys might just be like, all right, now I'm going to go, you know, play my hometown team or go to another team, make more money. But these guys have bought in and it's special to watch. And yeah, I think they're going to be a real issue for the other 31 teams for the next seven, eight years or however long Barky and those guys are there.

[Ryan Whitney]

Let me ask you guys this. When Marshawn's deal got announced, he's 37, correct. So it's a six year deal. Like, and then I immediately kind of started seeing some tweets like this. Is this not kind of a scam here? Like, if, you know, like, he's not going to. Is he going to finish that deal? Like, I feel like he'll probably be.

[Mike Grinelli]

Doing the same shit when he's 43 fucking years old.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's the thing with him. Who knows? He actually, like, maybe in his mind, he's like, yeah, I'll still be playing, but is there not an argument that that's some sort of way to like, circumvent or as Biz says, circumcise the cap. Do you know what I mean? And didn't it happen with somebody who signed a dude who signed a deal last year? Gee, look it up. There was somebody who. They were already talking about this last year.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, I don't know. I kind of don't really want to chirp them anymore. Cause I've already been stuffed in a locker with the state tax stuff. And then now. Okay, obviously if you want to say that they're, they're circumcising the cap by giving them a six year deal. But I mean by years five and six, if, if, if there is a buyout, you know, maybe it, at that point it looks a little shitty. But the fact is though is that's going to hurt them on the cap, right? When you buy a guy out at that age, you know it's going to, you know, affect you just the way it affected Minnesota. But I, I don't know, I just feel like this guy, he takes his off season very seriously. The way he trains. I mean I know that he's, he shares a lot of ice with Sid still doing all those battle drills down below. So I don't know, man. I feel like they're the type of team too they can kind of just cruise through the regular season now. They don't really care if they win the Atlantic, they don't care if they get the fucking wild card at this point. They're just going to handle business. The minute that playoffs hit. The one thing that will go against them and other teams who have done it, I believe five of the last six years is the LTIR which we addressed with Elliott last pod. So they won't be able to throw anybody on LTIR and then make a one or two significant trades. But I mean boys, they had $19 million in cap space going into free agency. I believe they locked in those three guys, they just slightly north of that and then they ended up getting no sick and, and the whole fourth line solidified. So currently right now they're just under 3 million over the cap. There was rumblings that. And even before the rumbling started you thought like who was the one guy that might end up getting like be a cap casualty? Rodriguez. Name keeps popping up. I'm sure they're going to do everything they can in order not to lose him. Because he's like that perfect glue guy who can fit up and down the lineup. You know, you saw him do it with other teams as well. But ultimately if he was a cap casualty, who was the one kid, the smaller forward that they had who wasn't even playing in playoffs, who's this?

[Ryan Whitney]

Sam Eskiewic.

[Mike Grinelli]

So he's nasty. So if he does end up being a cap casualty, that's the type of guy who they're going to pull up. He'll get a full season under his belt, and then next thing you know, he's going to be the next fucking Sasha Barkov.

[Dan Carcillo]

So because Biz, those guys, they get plugged into the lineup and they get to play with Barky. And we've talked about it at length, like, you get to play with him, he's gonna make you better. Like, he, he's the type of guy, if you want to hit free agency, go play one year with him. You're gonna have the best year of your career, and then, boom, you can sign a ticket. So anyone they bring in to play with him, they could bring you in to play a couple games to get a couple goals and an assist.

[Mike Grinelli]

But it's not according to shave daddy biz Biz.

[Dan Carcillo]

You're right, though. It's like this year they didn't have home ice for one series to start the series, right? And it's like, you know, we prove we don't need to have home ice advantage. And even with the Bob stuff too, like him getting older, but the way the goalies play nowadays, like if he's giving you 40 games in the regular season, once he's getting closer to 40, it's like, all right, give us your, you know, 40 games and then we're going to ride the shit out of you and play awesome. We know you're an absolute dog. So I think for, for them that they're set up real nice for the next few years.

[Mike Grinelli]

I might do the same thing as him, too Wit. I might get my head shave. Like, he gets it shaved going into the offseason to almost like replenish his body in order to prepare for the next journey, which will be next season. And you know, we got Olympics and everything, so I might go full buzz cut on behalf of Bob.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay, you're going to do that. All right.

[Mike Grinelli]

Full body. Full body buzz. I'm going to shave my chest, my bean chocolate's cup, my hoop.

[Ryan Whitney]

I mean, I. I got to shave your head once. I mean, I've done that. I'll do it again for you. You know, I did it on tnt, like where you work too. Shoved you in a locker. Speaking of shoving in a locker, we just interviewed Matthew Schaefer, first overall pick.

[Dan Carcillo]

I don't know, he's an o' tool from Billy Madison. O' rules.

[Ryan Whitney]

If you want to see a seven. Yes, 17 year old dummy. The biggest name in hockey sports media, Paul Bassinet. Just tune in when we drop that interview in a couple minutes. Incredible stuff. Islanders fans, you're going to love this kid. But this is my final thing on the Panthers. This is the one that made me sick. Especially when you're talking about Edmonton and McDavid and Leon and Bouchard and then the nurse deal. Like, they have the pants. The Panthers have Barkov, Kachuk, Reinhardt, Bennett, Verhe, Lundell, Marshawn, Seth, Jones, Ekbad and Forsling locked up through 2030. So, I mean, but fuck, that's it. That's it for me. That's it for my.

[Mike Grinelli]

Should we just take the next few seasons off and just circle back in a few.

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, I'm sure there's many fans that are, that are like, enough of the Florida stuff, but, like, guys, I don't know what you want us to do. Like, they're running through this league and then somehow signing now. There is a lot to be said that they got pretty lucky. Not lucky in terms of winning anything. But the fact that as the cap goes up and these crazy jumps we're seeing the next three years was perfect timing for them and it actually leads into the entire free agency where because the cap went up so much.

[Mike Grinelli]

No, we lost him again.

[Ryan Whitney]

Can you guys hear me?

[Mike Grinelli]

We got you now.

[Ryan Whitney]

Jesus Christ, this is driving me crazy. We're keeping this in. I'm going to fuck Keeps fucking happening, too.

[Dan Carcillo]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right, but listen, they kept all three in Florida. Columbus kept Provorov, Besser stayed in Van Jru. Tavarez. Like, like, I feel like the cap going up allowed teams to just resign guys where we, you know, you don't see that that often.

[Mike Grinelli]

I, I, yeah, like, a lot of the older guys seem to be staying put where maybe, you know, a few years ago, you saw guys like Jumbo Joe move around a little bit. The Patrick Marlo Pavelski ended up moving on from San Jose, where I feel like a lot of these teams aren't trusting in their veterans. I mean, I, how many teams are looking back saying, fuck, we probably should have kept Corey Perry as he now moves on to la, where, you know he's going to do damage, where, you know, Holland loves him and we'll get to the, the, the LA Kings and their free agency, but we talked about the big winners, which were the Florida Panthers. Who, who, who do you have listed off as some of the other big winners with Dog?

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, I just had the screen go black again and you cut out, so I'm going to have to hear, hear the, the, the question once again. Just my goddamn mind.

[Mike Grinelli]

No, that's okay. It's, it's a little adversity. We're battling before we go into our off season. Kind of feel like the Edmonton Oilers at this point we're going fully off the rails. Who do you view as the biggest winners in free agency or even before free agency hit with bringing back guys. Do you have a list of teams we can go through who they sign and who the big winners are? And let's cover the winners and be positive before we throw it to Schaefer and then we'll go Debbie Downer status on the back end.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. All right. So I think if you're talking on who had a big free agency period, you got to talk about Carolina. Because once the Marner sweepstakes, you know, ended and apparently from everything I've read, like I think a lot of teams were hoping and kind of wishing that was their guy, that was their plan and you know, only one team gets him. But Ehlers was the next option. So I understand that the. There's people who have kind of dogged Carolina with either because he's very similar to what they have. But dude, I mean they got to score more. And yes, Biz, you mentioned last week like he hasn't scored in the playoffs, but it's just another offensive weapon that they bring in. And Keandre Miller, that, that trade, first off, I kind of think it's a good trade for both teams. I mean like Brent Burns moves on. Shout out. Brent Burns signs a one year deal with Colorado.

[Mike Grinelli]

Oh, we lost Whit again. Signed a one year deal.

[Dan Carcillo]

Brent Burns, he's going to overreact.

[Mike Grinelli]

I think he's going to put his laptop over his knee pretty soon.

[Dan Carcillo]

And the worst part is is he was on the ice with me today from my can.

[Ryan Whitney]

What?

[Mike Grinelli]

Oh, he's back. What's up, Witty?

[Ryan Whitney]

This is unbelievable. This is fucking.

[Dan Carcillo]

You cut out at Brent Burns.

[Ryan Whitney]

This is unfucking believable. Guys, I don't know what the fuck we're going to do here. I'm going to have a fucking breakdown right now. I'm not even joking around.

[Mike Grinelli]

No, the fans are probably loving it.

[Ryan Whitney]

This is fucking infuriating to me. Nice house. Fucking joke. I could be fucking joke. So Carolina, ok. They added a speedy scoring winger, right? Okay, I like it. Keandre Miller is the one where Keith, I don't know what you think about him. I kind of was like, ah, you know, I like his game. Great skater. But is there more to be had here? But apparently he's going to fit in perfect with Carolina. Like that's like the one on ones being able to skate and Close that much. That was their guy. So to me, I'm looking at that like, if Carolina wanted him that bad, was willing to, to give up a first, a second. And Scott, is it Morrow? Scott Morrow, I believe, who's pretty nice in college. I saw him at UMass. I mean, I, I think it works for both sides on that trade.

[Dan Carcillo]

Yeah, I, I, I look at it almost like a Brady Shea type of defender. Like, because he defends with his feet, he skates really well. And in that system they play the man on man in the defensive zone where they're not like, Keandre Miller is a big dude, he can play physical if he needs to, but the way they defend is with their feet. And he's going to, I think he's going to be great there. He's a, he's a guy that can play a lot of minutes. You know, playing in New York, like, you know, there's ups and downs there, no matter who you are. It's a big market. It's the Rangers. Like, I think he's going to go to Carolina and you're going to see him get to where that Brady Shea was when Brady, when Brady was in Carolina, like he was playing his best hockey because he was just able to trust this skate and go out there, defend with his feet, move the puck up to those forwards and you know, he's a guy, he's got offensive skill. He was a forward at one point. So like there's, there's opportunities for him to jump up in the play and help out and you could see his game, his offensive numbers take over here. Where in New York it was like, okay, is he a stay at home guy? Isn't he offensive guy? So it's, I think you're going to get the both best of both worlds with him in that system and he could be a monster.

[Mike Grinelli]

I couldn't agree more, Ian, just as far as like how, how raw and young he is. And he had that big offensive season. The Rangers, I believe it was like 40, like close to 45 points. I want to say 43. And sometimes when you have a big explosion like that, you now all of a sudden think you're going to be this offensive defenseman where the points are going to come easier, where I feel like he's in that middle tier and will fit in perfectly playing that 20 minutes and probably I would assume like a number three role, like a two or three role where under a system and that type of structure, I just think he's going to flourish and you know with, with where things were at in New York. And I don't want to be too critical of, of like, like, because Laviolette's like an old school coach. He's been around forever. I just don't know how much from a development standpoint he can help out where I feel like Rod and his staff are a little bit better at maybe doing that because they're more used to it because they have to have a lot more homegrown talent. And I just, yeah, I think that he's going to get back to where we saw him defensively and then with that confidence, he's going to then flourish back to those types of offensive numbers. Like, I don't, I, I, I see a world where he's putting up 40 to 45 points every year and being a great shutdown defenseman and not being put on an island. And, and I feel like with Fox having a down year too, and then getting rid of Truba, it kind of put him in a bit of a difficult spot with people, especially New York fans, wanting to see that constant growth where it's not always going to be an uphill trajectory. Right. So a great move for Carolina. Their fans were barking at at me all season long about how that, how much cap space they had to work with and obviously the Marner sweepstakes didn't work out. But unlike when they had the rotten deal, they had a backup plan this time and it was to get ers and you know, all the way up until next year's playoffs, people are probably going to say the same thing like, yeah, let's see what he's going to be able to do come playoff time because you're ultimately going to go have to go off and play the Florida Panthers, I'm assuming, where yes, Ehlers is a bit undersized, but talk about a guy who fits perfectly in that system as well, where he skates, skate, skates, helps out in a lot of areas of the game and it alleviates a little pressure off of that top six. So a great player. And my only criticism, as Whit mentioned, was you're looking for a scoring winger. Yes. He has done so at a unreal clip rate in the regular season, kind of like those off Marner playoff numbers as far as goals are concerned. Right. I think he's got 14 goals in his full playoff career, which is just, just under a hundred playoff games. So not exactly at the clip rate you're seeing in the regular season, but we'll see if that changes in Carolina. But ultimately, seven years at that number. That's a pretty, that's a pretty fair number for a guy who's going to bring that much to your lineup.

[Dan Carcillo]

It's also too. And we talk about it with the pressures and not having as much pressure. I mean I know these guys are in the NHL, they put pressure on themselves. But you know him being in Winnipeg as opposed to Carolina, like a playoff series where you're not seeing your name in the, in the news every day of not scoring and you know that, that, that can get to anyone. And I think for him like he could have a nice, you know, just kind of go through the season, score is 30, 40, 50 goals and then you know, be a, be a beast in the playoffs would just a little bit less pressure. And then he's got guy like they have guys, they have guys that can score, they have guys that can make offensive plays. Just finding that gear in the playoffs and hopefully not playing Florida.

[Mike Grinelli]

Okay, so I was off actually. My, my bad. So he's. It says here he's played 45 playoff games in his career and he's got nine playoff goals. That right.

[Ryan Whitney]

I. When you said a little under a hundred, I'm like holy.

[Mike Grinelli]

Either says that I must have been looking at somebody else before the pod and I glitch out. But yeah, I mean, yeah, nine goals in 45 games. That's not exactly what he. He's got 225 regular season go goals. So just a little bit, a little bit different.

[Ryan Whitney]

The other move Carolina made was signing Stankovin to an eight year extension. Six million a year. And, and I want to know your opinion. I was kind of like what is he signing that for? Like dude, $48 million. This kid is set for life. Like I get it but that's a bargain, dude. In four years he's making six. And that kid, I mean he's young. He's going to keep getting better. I think he's going to be realistically like a, like a 30 goal score every year if not popping off for 40 a year. So now it's all about I guess just taking the bag and taking the security. Looking at him signing that and I understand it but I was like, wow, he, he's given up a lot of money in his future with that deal. Great for the Canes and like I said great for him. But I was surprised at that. I'll say that biz.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, I feel like it puts a little less pressure on you because he's a middle six winger, right. He's. So if he Ends up being a third line forward. Then it's.

[Ryan Whitney]

Then all I see him is more than that.

[Mike Grinelli]

I see him as a second line winger for sure. And I see this being a bargain contract by the end of it, but I, it's just kind of how they operate there. I mean look at the deal that, that Jarvis signed. Like that's going to be a steal in three, four years too where he, he left some money on the table. So he, he seems like the type of guy that's assaulted the earth down to earth kid where that's going to be enough money for him, for him and his family for, for generations and generations. So just to, to be able to get that over the hump like that. That was a big, big off season that the Carolina Hurricanes needed in order to put a bandaid on. On the way that they got spanked in the conference finals again by Florida.

[Dan Carcillo]

Yeah, the last two years. Right. It's. You see it all these teams and I mean everything's a copycat league but every team, it seems like they're trying to build their teams just to beat Florida. And I don't know, like Stankholm is not the biggest guy. Ehlers isn't the biggest guy. Getting Keandre Miller helps you got to beef up the back end. But yeah, I mean they're all. They're always an issue playing against them. It's never, it's one of the worst buildings to play and it's hard to play in. You know, obviously with Rod at the helm too. They're always going to have a good team and have the winning ways. But it's, you know, it's good to see that they're not just happy making the playoffs and making the past a round or two. Like they, they're trying to get better. They want to go out there and win a cup and you know, they're doing everything that they can.

[Mike Grinelli]

So between that signing, getting Keandre Miller and the fact that you're going to get now Nikishan for a full season like this is a big, young, bolstered back end and then you got the wheels up front. So.

[Ryan Whitney]

But, but there is one issue. And when you talk about like trying to beat Florida and especially like in the Eastern Conference at least like their second line centers cocked in Yemi, like that. That's, that is not it. And, and I think it was tree living. There was a quote from Brad Tree living. Like I think there's 27 teams looking for a second line center. Like it's the, it's the position in the league that so many people need help with. And you see a lot of guys here, legit first line centers. Then you see a lot of teams, even good teams that at second line center, you're then looking at Florida and you're like, how would we ever beat them? So.

[Mike Grinelli]

And that goes back to why I think that there was probably five to seven teams that were lined up to pay Ben at 10 million bucks. Yeah, I'm going to stick to that. I'm not changing. I'm not changing on that one. Whit. That was a great pick for the second, probably the second biggest winner or maybe there's a few tied at second biggest winners. Who are some other teams you had as the big dogs on free agency?

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, Biz, before we get to Mitch Marner in Vegas, I'm actually in a new location as well in my house. I don't know if this is going to work. I might have a mental breakdown if it doesn't. But I've moved and so has your boy. A true relationship is now over. Biz. Mitch Marner, the newest member of The Golden Knights. Eight years, 12 million a year. I've never seen that guy look that happy. He was putting on the jersey. He had the band and the cheerleaders. I said, wow, that's pure joy. He's fine. He looked great.

[Mike Grinelli]

He looked humble. He was a man missile. I mean, he had nice tan going. I didn't know he had the forearm tat. He kind of looked like hockey's version of David Beckham. I mean, and like you said, like, I, I couldn't be happier for the guy, just simply based on how happy he looked. He just had his first kid. His family was there. Paul was there. I guess his phone was going off during the press conference too. So making his appearance, first come, first serve. But before, before we get to more of my opinion on it, I got to know one thing in the Whitney household. Is Squanto sticking around with the Toronto Maple Leafs? Are Squanto taking his talents the Vegas with Mitchie Marner? Have you talked to him? How does he feel about it?

[Ryan Whitney]

I think Squanto's. I think Squanto's at Keith's house right now, I believe. Or he was. And I asked him. He's just like, I love Matthews, I love Matthews, I love Matthews. And he's just all about Matthews and the Leafs. I guess so. You didn't lose him. You didn't lose him. He hasn't done anything for you. They still are. The Leafs still Still just real true laughing stocks of the league, right? Like, like an original six legendary franchise that never won shit. But, but you still have Squanto, you still have him, so I wouldn't worry. You don't have martyrs.

[Mike Grinelli]

That's a comp. Now it was a bit of a love hate between me and Mitch in a sense of like, I love everything he brought in the regular season. Obviously. I just felt like sometimes come playoff times there was, I felt like there was a little bit more there. And you know, and you know, there's a few moments that do stand out where when PosterNOX scored the OT goal in Game 7 to, to end the leaf season where, you know, he, he was, he came off the bench and Marner let him get by. There was no type of holdup or anything, so he was able to streak in. Some people are saying, well, you can't interfere with him. Well, you don't think the, you don't think the Florida Panthers are running a little interference for their defenseman there, so it gives them a little bit more time, like just that type of maybe defensive awareness. And you know, you go back to, to game three where they pretty much had the series locked up up 31 in that games to none. That shift after they give up that 32 goal, like just. There was just some little things that left you a little bit frustrated as a fan. But ultimately like you have to view his time in Toronto as, as successful. I mean he had fucking 300 point seasons like 2, 299 and on the 100 point season this year and everything he did in the community, the way that he showed up to the rink, the way that he dealt with the media, like being a Toronto kid, being drafted into that type of environment with all the pressure in the world on you. I thought he, I thought he passed with flying colors and it sucks to see him go. It's not going to be easy to replace him, although I think they did an excellent job with the signings that they had and of course getting wa back in that sign and trade. But I'll just go back to saying, man, like these guys are people. I am so happy that he's able to get out of the noise and he can bring his talent somewhere where he can go to the grocery store with his family and not get bugged and, and just worry about playing ice hockey when he gets to the rink. And kind of like Yan's touched on when discussing the Florida Panthers, like you're able to h. Have a, a life and a lifestyle outside of Hockey and keep a lot more of your money because of no state tax. So 8 times 12 is a great number for him. I think that if you view the rotten deal as like the exact same thing, I would imagine a lot of people think that Marner, based on what he's proved in playoffs, got overpaid if you're comparing the two. But when you're the biggest sought after free agent, you're going to have a bunch of teams just willing to, to pay you whatever you want in order to. I bet you fucking Carolina would have paid him 14 million if they, if, if he really show type of interest to go there. So good for the Golden Knights. Now I texted you guys this question. Do you think that it's more probable that he wins a Stanley cup in Vegas or that he doesn't finish the full eight years with the Golden Knights? They, Gary Lawless, he shut down the fact that they're ruthless and they could be gutless. But we always go back to the, the mark Andre Fleury and how quickly they're able to get off of guys that have maybe brought him success from the, the early days with the misfits, maybe the march or so, not bringing him back. But do you guys think that it's more likely he raises a Stanley cup or that he does not finish the full eight years in, in Vegas? You might hit me with the, oh, he's got a no move clause for those eight years, but that always doesn't mean that the player's not going to move on.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's a great question. It's a great question. I, I got a dog barking in my house now too. But I think that, I think he's more likely to win a Stanley cup there than he is to not finish that contract. I think that that team's loaded now. They, they don't have Petrangelo, which it sounds like he may never play again. Right so. And then wa was a big part of a really good fourth line. But dude, there, I mean they, if Eichel re signs there, which I imagine he does, they got Stone, they got him. And then who's the GM? I'm just drawing a blank right now. McCrimmon, he was saying, he was saying like it was bullshit. He was pissed off that a lot of people were mentioning that they were going to have to trade. They would trade William Carlson, who was the other name ripping around in rumors.

[Mike Grinelli]

Oh, he doesn't like the rumor boy segment.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hurdle, hurdle. Barbara Shively, he's like, no, no, no, no. Like I think he called Carlson and Hurdle, and he's like, you're not going anywhere. Like, this is all bullshit. So, yeah, I think he's more likely to win a Cup there. I mean, he started that rumor.

[Mike Grinelli]

Did we.

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't ever remember saying that. I mean, who knows, though? We could have for sure, though, that he's more likely to win a Stanley cup before the Maple Leafs do. I'll tell you that for free. That. That's free right there. Free 99 bits. Like, he will probably go on and get one. And that would just be so perfect to see him raising the cup and Toronto lose again in the first round or the second round. But I do want to say one thing that was. I thought was crazy. Crazy in that all these Leafs fans were disgusted about his comment during his press conference being introduced to Vegas about how he had been talking to some members of the Golden Knights at the Four nations, and, you know, like, fans, all of a sudden, like, this is. We got guys. We want to try to win a Stanley cup, and. And he's asking what Vegas is like, I'm. I. I cannot tell you how dumb you are and how normal it is for guys to meet and play with other guys mid season and ask how. What's it like? Like what? You know, you're just. You're talking about another team that you're. You're listening, and he. You're hearing about experiences, how. How the teams run everything. And, like, Leafs fans are going nuts saying he was already checked out. It's like, buddy, I don't think that had anything to do with him maybe not performing the playoffs, which he did have point per game again this year in the playoffs.

[Mike Grinelli]

I'm gonna steal that Golden Knight sword off their. Their mascot and behead him for trading us at Four Nations. He's representing Canada and talking about going to the United States to play hockey when we got a Stanley cup to win. Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, it's. How do you feel about that?

[Dan Carcillo]

I think, like Whit said, it's. It's very, very normal for guys to ask around. How is it?

[Ryan Whitney]

You're a crazy Leafs fan? Exactly.

[Dan Carcillo]

You see, he went from being happy for him and switched like that as soon as he heard conversation. No, you're not. Hey, you know who.

[Mike Grinelli]

If I saw him, I would give him a hug. I know that I would probably get tasered by his security guard Rocket. But ultimately, I got to check in with all my sources because I thought maybe there was a chance he was coming back, and technically, I was Right. He did resign with the Leafs.

[Dan Carcillo]

True.

[Mike Grinelli]

It just so happens it was a signing trade, so.

[Dan Carcillo]

Hey, Vegas. Because we all know Vegas is cutthroat. I thought they were gonna sign him and then not trade for them so they'd be over the cap.

[Mike Grinelli]

That is. That is one bit of tomfoolery I never predicted. We've now lost wit again for the 17th time. He's probably bringing his dog out that was barking in his backswing.

[Dan Carcillo]

His whole. His whole family's at my house. His entire family.

[Mike Grinelli]

Could you call Squanto in the room so I can ask him about this Marner situation?

[Dan Carcillo]

No, he's in the pool, dude. He ain't getting out of there.

[Mike Grinelli]

Just ask him. Say, can you go out and just say, hey, Squanto, Biz wants to know what do you think about the Marner move? Cause I don't trust what Whit said.

[Dan Carcillo]

Yeah, I bet Whit tells him, like, the Leafs aren't even in the league anymore.

[Mike Grinelli]

Well, then he's.

[Dan Carcillo]

He's. He's backstabbing you somehow. And you. You need Squanto as much as he's saying, Squanto hasn't brought you anything. He's. He's the guy.

[Mike Grinelli]

Do you think that automatically, like, without the pressure of Toronto and kind of having that being held against him, like, for a while now, I feel like that's something that's being used against him. So ultimately maybe it becomes something that's in the back of your head when you're getting suited up and ready for the postseason. Do you think that he will have more playoff success in Vegas as a result of not being under that Toronto media fire?

[Ryan Whitney]

I think.

[Dan Carcillo]

I think Vegas is one of those towns, like the. One of those teams that kind of. You play bigger than you are. You. You're, you know, you're not, you know, going into a game like, all right, I gotta skill it up. Like, you're gonna get dragged in the muck. Like, even look at Jack Eichel's game, the way it. That it's, you know, progressed. He's become this two way player. That's amazing. Where in Buffalo, obviously he was amazing, but he was more of like just an offensive guy. So I feel like Vegas is one of those teams like Florida that, you know, guys get there and they play bigger than they are. They do. They do things that they haven't been doing. So I. I think his game's going to be unbelievable and everyone in Toronto is going to be like, oh, my God, what are we missing here? Like, we really just let this guy walk and then not trading them. Yeah, that's true. He did resign, which was a good guy move.

[Mike Grinelli]

That's right. That's right.

[Dan Carcillo]

Does he know what if I, I.

[Mike Grinelli]

I like your point though. And I, I think feel that him getting one year under Chief was huge not only for like his development as a player, like even more, more so on the defensive side of the puck where he's already good at in the regular season. But, but Cassidy, he's known to be hard on his players and very demanding on both sides of the puck. So you're going to be going to a similar coach that have a lot of the same philosophies and I would say even more so than Chief, he's a little bit more hot and cold and, and wears his heart more on his sleeve on the bench. Like, Cassidy is not shy. If you're not playing good, doesn't matter who the fuck you are. Like he'll give you the eye roll and the, the, on the bench when the camera's on him, like he doesn't give a.

[Dan Carcillo]

So yeah, was Cassidy on the Four nations coaching stuff?

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, he was. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was him. Talkett, Cooper, DeBoer.

[Dan Carcillo]

Maurice. Had to have been Maurice.

[Mike Grinelli]

I think he was in there. I mean G could probably hit us up in the chat and all.

[Dan Carcillo]

Was, was Cassidy on the Four nations coaching staff?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah, because remember he watched Theodore break his wrist and we were saying like, he's probably like, oh, this tournament stinks. Yeah.

[Dan Carcillo]

But then he was talking to, he was talking to Marnzie and he was like, hey, come on home. Or tampering.

[Ryan Whitney]

Tampering, tampering.

[Mike Grinelli]

I'm going after Pinky in the brain.

[Dan Carcillo]

You look at when he set up that game winning goal, right? Like he would. That was him who set it up, right?

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, he set up the one to McDavid. He pulled it off.

[Dan Carcillo]

He got in on the four check. He's playing like he played a little bit of a different style there. Like he's got it in him to, you know, have that dog in him. So I think, I think it's going to be a, a player that's really, really missed in Toronto.

[Mike Grinelli]

Like what kind? Like Chihuahua? Are we talking Rottweiler? What are we talking about here, buddy?

[Ryan Whitney]

Being out of Toronto? He's going to light it up. He's going to. Absolutely.

[Mike Grinelli]

Well, he lit it up in Toronto.

[Ryan Whitney]

No playoffs too. Playoffs too. He's going to light it up. Going to light it up. Yeah. The pressure in Toronto, you guys are Done. You guys will never do anything. It's just too much. It's too ridiculous. Grinelli saying It's Phil Kessel 2.0. He said he's just gonna be just raking in the cups and I would be in Toronto.

[Dan Carcillo]

Was he.

[Mike Grinelli]

But he, Phil, No, Phil Kessel went to.

[Dan Carcillo]

You mean he was in Toronto.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yes, he was. But in Pittsburgh. But in Pittsburgh wit. He wasn't being paid like the second or third guy. He was being paid. Phil Kessel at that time was probably like the fourth, fifth guy. And that's in my opinion why he had so much success.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. Dude doesn't matter about money biz. It does, but he has Eichel. He's got Stone. Like he doesn't have to be the guy still, but he's just an insane piece as like the third piece. And, and I mean I don't know about you guys. If you could take right now Eichel or Matthews. Who you taking? I'm taking Eichel.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah. I just, I think that you, you just have to kind of delegate to, to the guy who's won a cup and.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I know. It's not even just that though. I, I, I let his, he should.

[Mike Grinelli]

Have won the con smite. Marchesau got it because of his clutch goal scoring. But I mean you talk 200 foot game and what he did throughout that run, I think a lot of people were surprised that it wasn't Eichel and it was Marchell that I, I think that just based on that run and seeing somebody prove it, especially at his cap hit, which I believe he only makes 10 million right now. He has one year left at 10 million. So as of right now, I believe Eichel can sign an extension.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. So McDavid, Eichel and Capriof could have signed by now. So obviously for the, for the Oilers fans. And we can move over to Edmonton in what, in what is, is kind of like I'd say a rat jumping, ship rattling couple weeks here. Right. Like you get drummed in the finals.

[Mike Grinelli]

Hey, we said we were gonna wait to talk about the losers of free agency till after the interview. I think that if I don't winners.

[Ryan Whitney]

I don't think they're one of the big.

[Mike Grinelli]

Well, I know that the Leafs are higher up on the, on in the win column for, for signings and free agency than the Edmonton Oilers are. When you're paying the new Core 4, whatever it is, over 50%. They're the new Core 4. Everybody loved that comment from me, by the way. I don't think.

[Ryan Whitney]

Who's everybody? All, all the Leafs fans?

[Mike Grinelli]

No, I think that we've never gotten more engagement on a clip in our entire existence of the podcast. So I would.

[Ryan Whitney]

RA was scratching his butt in Buffalo. That was a lot of engagement on that one. Biz, let me tell you something. Like, I, I am kind of with, like, I'm not loving it right now. When McDavid resigns, dude, I'm fine. That's it. Until he resigns, there's worry, little bit of panic. Once he resigns, we're fine. Because it's different. Leon and McDavid, if they're a part of my core four, buddy, they, they literally take shits on your old Core 4 and then just swipe them away, like, and then make somebody else clean up the shit, too. Like, I, I, I don't care if you're calling us the core four if Leon and McDavid are two of the core four, because that is so much different than anything you have. And you know it. You know it. We're talking playoff success and proving it. Now, the Bouchard contract. All right. I don't do, we don't want to go to Edmonton yet.

[Mike Grinelli]

No, we'll go there now since we've already. We're in.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Mike Grinelli]

Let me ask you one thing before.

[Ryan Whitney]

You ask me anything, you want, Biz.

[Mike Grinelli]

One thing before Bouchard.

[Dan Carcillo]

Now, what type of Internet do you.

[Mike Grinelli]

Have that we're going to get you? Starlink. We're going to send fucking Elon over to your place. Are you on the worried or worried meter? Where are you with the McDavid signing? Like, are you more on the worried or worried?

[Ryan Whitney]

I know I say the word incorrect, but I don't know which one. The correct enunciation or my enunciation would.

[Mike Grinelli]

Be more or less worried is like, you're really worried.

[Dan Carcillo]

Worried.

[Mike Grinelli]

You're like, I'm a little worried.

[Ryan Whitney]

And the first one is how I say it. That's incorrect, right?

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, you say it with an A.

[Ryan Whitney]

So I'm worried.

[Mike Grinelli]

You're just worried. Okay. You're worried.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'm not worried.

[Mike Grinelli]

That's good to know. That's good to know. I, I, I just had to clarify.

[Ryan Whitney]

If he doesn't come back, I, I is at the end of the franchise. Some, some may say yes, the Bouchard contract, like, people are all over that one, too. Third in the league in giveaways. Like, bro, he has the puck a lot. He's going to give it away. Keith, you're a defenseman. Biz. I Know is down on that deal. Biz is down on that deal. It's like that's what they get paid. Dobson got nine and a half. He's better than Dobson. He got a million more per year. And according to Elliott, it was all based on the fact that they were going to offer sheet him. Carolina was going to. So then they find that out. Yeah. And then they're. They were going to offer sheet him, so they had to. They had to pay him. And. And then visitors. I got visitors now. And then my dad running through, grabbing a jacket, 90 degrees.

[Mike Grinelli]

Ask him what he thinks of the.

[Ryan Whitney]

Come on.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Come here. What's. What's your question for him?

[Mike Grinelli]

What's he think of the Bouchard deal? Oh, no. His Internet lost big. Now the Internet's down again. God damn it. We can't win today, can we, dude?

[Dan Carcillo]

Just like the Oilers in free agency.

[Ryan Whitney]

Because I have no Internet. The Internet's. That's unbelievable timing.

[Mike Grinelli]

Bds.

[Ryan Whitney]

There it is. Unbelievable timing right there that the Internet cuts out.

[Mike Grinelli]

What do you make of wits Internet? What's going on with the Internet in the house?

[Ryan Whitney]

I'm telling you, Pink Whitney sales are.

[Mike Grinelli]

Down, so we're using the funding from the sales in Canada to supply the Internet in the Whitney household. So it's not working out. What do you make of the Oilers off season so far? And what do you make? The Evan Bouchard contract didn't even know.

[Ryan Whitney]

What he signed for. What did he sign for? It came out today. 10 and a half for four years. He deserves it. If Donald Nurse gets that type of money, then yes, he definitely deserves that money. And I'm not loyal to the oil. Both Whitney's sitting here are loyal to the oil biz, but I'm a Bruins fan first and foremost. Oh, and he's a hu. Why don't you tell us what you think of the Bruins? I love the players and the management is ridiculous. So we're going PG version. Yeah. You can elaborate. I can. I will elaborate that. Oh, man.

[Dan Carcillo]

Let it loose, Dan.

[Ryan Whitney]

They have. All right, 1975, they bought the team for $12 million. They have one Stanley Cup. They had one time. They had four lines and they won the Stanley Cup. And that was not the current gm, that was Peter Chiarelli. They got the job done. Since then in the play in the Stanley cup, they've been to 3, 3, 5, 4, no, 5 total finals and they haven't won them. And they never had four lines. And once Charlie has left, they have a guy there now, not a Fan, Not a fan. Liked him as a player president, not a fan. As a management guy. Liked him as a player People.

[Mike Grinelli]

People do say, though, if Shirelli wouldn't have ended up in Edmonton, they would have also won another Stanley Cup. So you were loyal to the oil with that guy?

[Ryan Whitney]

I just said. Can I ask you a question, Pizz? I was just wondering, how can a guy who never played for the squad talk about his team and the love he has for them? What's. What is that all about?

[Mike Grinelli]

Well, I did. I did technically play for them. I was. They put a waiver claim in for me.

[Ryan Whitney]

No. Did you ski? Did you skate under the Toronto umbrella at all?

[Mike Grinelli]

No.

[Ryan Whitney]

Not getting picked up by the waivers, but get some team snatched you because they wanted you so badly. Did you ever put on a maple Leaf jersey?

[Mike Grinelli]

No, I was blocked by the Arizona Coyotes.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay, so you did. So you answered my question. Thank you. I have to go because I have a coat. Listen to these dogs. Listen to Big Dan stuffing you. I'm telling you guys, I'm telling you, this is a wild show because I love you, man.

[Mike Grinelli]

So it's funny. Is he getting. Are you getting your ammo from him about criticizing me about not playing for the Leafs? Therefore, I can't root for him.

[Dan Carcillo]

He's an avid listener.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, you talk. You talk about the Leafs like you were a member of the Leafs. But listen, I am.

[Mike Grinelli]

I'm a fucking ambassador, dude.

[Ryan Whitney]

The Oilers, Connor Brown, losing him sucks. I'm not going to pay him what he got from Jersey. Arvidson kind of love that move. Get rid of him. Apparently, Elliot, like, it was the article saying that he. The. What's the. Jesus Christ, I'm drawing a plank. Bowman went to all the guys and was like, hey, what's your. What are you thinking here about no trades? He went to nurse. Nurse is like, I'm not waving my no trade. So the fact that they're trying to think of moving him, I like that. But until he's off the books, I mean, that's kind of. That's a horrible contract, man. I don't know. What do you want me to say now? If McDavid leaves, it's done. It's over. Like, honest to God, if he ends up some, like, whether it's halfway through this year after next year, like, what. What would they do?

[Mike Grinelli]

Would you.

[Dan Carcillo]

If.

[Mike Grinelli]

If Conor does leave and he lets them know and they're able to get a return for him, would you then go to Dry Sidle and just say, hey, like, would. Because imagine the haul you can get for both guys and just maybe start fresh maybe even.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, but you'd have to legit. You'd have to get like, like a celebrity. It would have to be like a, like a. And I'm not saying San Jose, right. I'm saying like a player that is going to be a superstar, right? Like how you, you're going to lose the trade no matter what if it's not something like a, a 19 year old first overall pick that's coming. But then what team would do that, right? Because they, if they were that bad to have that high of a pick, they wouldn't be ready to win anyway. So he wouldn't go there. So I have. That's the thing. Like who would even. Who, who. Like you know, you know how many different moves would have to be made around the league for him to go somewhere else.

[Mike Grinelli]

That'd be like a four way trade or something. Now we, we have spent a lot of time on Edmonton. Can we mention a few other big winners before we throw it off to.

[Ryan Whitney]

Schaefer, who's a big winner for you?

[Mike Grinelli]

Well, I don't want to go for.

[Ryan Whitney]

There's a lot of big losers this year. That's my, my point. There's not many big winners on this year. I don't know how many teams got that much better honestly. Like.

[Mike Grinelli]

Well, I mean people are going to be pulling out their hair or, or punching their steering wheel. I thought the Leafs did an excellent job of bringing.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, I agree.

[Mike Grinelli]

I thought they, they bring in JT back for that discount. Credit to him for setting the tone. Then the next domino falls with nice signing, which I thought that there was no fucking way they were getting him in under nine or under eight. Excuse me. And then wa in that trade, the signage.

[Dan Carcillo]

Huge piece.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah. And it was funny to hear that. I thought I heard rumblings about the four year deal for Marner and then in the press conference. What's his name now? I can't fucking think of it. McCrimmon said that it was always eight years. So having that leverage like we talked about with Elliott and the fact that that's pretty much the only time you ever do a signing trade is where. When you want that extra year. So yeah, that was, that was a huge return. And then Michelli, who I know you're losing Marner, but I've watched him play with the Coyotes. He's an exceptional playmaker off the rush. He hits those little pockets. Yes. He's a little bit undersized and doesn't have any type of playoff experience. But I am very excited to see what he can do in that position with Matthews off the hop. So you talk about, oh, how are we going to replace Marner's hundred points? Well, you don't do it with one individual. You do it with a collective effort. And that was the one question you had last podcast. Well, between WA and. And Michelle, you do that. And as your father, the genius just talked about, you need four lines, you need to snap the money around and you need to have all systems go. So for me, the only real thing that is probably a question mark is who's your true second line center? As 27 other teams in the league need one, they still got a little bit of money to play with and they got a little bit of a situation to address. But all things considered, I thought it was a great offseason so far for the Toronto Maple Leafs. I thought they did an excellent, excellent job leaving a little bit of room for error and to plug a hole in as the season progresses, yet still bringing back a strong foundation where we know they're going to finish top three in the Atlantic. They're finishing top three in Atlantic all day long with their fucking eyes closed. Yes they are. Yes, they are confident.

[Ryan Whitney]

Pretty confident in that. G. Can you. Can you look up? I don't ever remember when the rights are traded for a player before July 1st so that that team can sign him before July 1st and give him the 8th year. Exactly what happened with Marner in Vegas, I don't ever remember anything other than draft picks going back. Like it being Nicholas Wa. That's amazing. Like dude, that's.

[Mike Grinelli]

I mean so they did need to shed salary was one thing, but with Petro going on ltir, which we'll get to in a little bit. Like that's just devastating. That's a huge loss for them. Like one of the best. Like to me, if you. To me, maybe even a little bit like Ekblad, it would be like, like, like Florida losing Eggplant. Just a nasty big player stick on park. Like physical a piece of shit to play against and has an upside offensively to his game. So I don't know. To answer your question with I don't know.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's just. It was nice. It was nice to get an actual player for a guy you were losing anyways and not, you know, a third round pick or something. Like that's a nice move. You know what team actually looking up here that I do like that the their off season so far is Utah. Utah has like a Pretty sick buzz around them. I think they. Obviously they come up with a new nickname. They got the jerseys. They got. They're redoing the arena over the summer. I think over the next three summers. Ryan Smith told us. But dude, Nate Schmidt was money. And yes, it was Florida's system. But dude, you give him a three year deal and then was it. Brandon Tan went there as well. Like, along with like getting Paterka, not having to trade the fourth overall pick in the draft. It's. It seems like they are on the rise. Like that is a team that is exciting to watch. Like Clayton Keller keeps getting better. So Utah's. Utah's one. I mean, I hate to say about Pasha. The Devils, I kind of like what they're. Because even though I said I wouldn't want to. What? Go ahead.

[Mike Grinelli]

No, I said. I said that. Jake Allen signing.

[Ryan Whitney]

I know I.

[Mike Grinelli]

That was in my opinion as far as aav, even more shocking than. Than the one in Carolina was Stankholven. He. I feel like he took over the net a little bit last year at 1.8. Why don't we get our delusional Devil's Insider to come on? But we gotta run the disclaimer. Run the fucking disclaimer, please. Warning.

[Ryan Whitney]

The following statements are about to be made by a deranged Devils fan. The views expressed are his and his only. Take everything you hear with a grain of salt because remember, he is a deranged Devils fan.

[Gavin McKenna]

What's up, boys?

[Mike Grinelli]

What's.

[Ryan Whitney]

Buddy, you're. You're buzzing right now. Like, I know you love what's happening in Jersey. I saw you on a date on Instagram, so everything's good in your world.

[Mike Grinelli]

He was at Stampede with his girl.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's doing all holding hands. They were doing a girl.

[Dan Carcillo]

The Stampede?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, they. They rode the bull at the bar together. Like, yeah, I think during it. Are you done with the face? Are you done? I got no Internet. I'm. I. I'm done. I'm completely done. I'm losing.

[Mike Grinelli]

He was docking her while riding the bull.

[Gavin McKenna]

Jesus Christ. Anyways, let's get back on track here. I wouldn't say that. Like, I love what the Devils have done thus far because I still think their biggest moves have yet to come. But I really think that like 50 sort of done what needed to be done. Like, he brought back Allen on. Like you said, like the. The AAV on that deal is ridiculous. Like, Allen played, you know, a great chunk of games and Markstrom got hurt. I think he was like the third or fourth Best goal in the league in terms of under the hood stats. So to bring him back like I heard, like he had offers for 4 or 5 million per year. So to bring him back for that low AAVS is great business. I think like the retooling of the bottom six like Connor Brown. I know Whit, you said you don't like the deal, but I think that's the exact kind of player.

[Ryan Whitney]

The devil's in the but I love the player.

[Dan Carcillo]

Yeah, you think he turned down four or five million dollars a year to stay in Jersey for Sopranos?

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, he could have been a two year deal though.

[Gavin McKenna]

Yeah, they obviously weren't five year deal.

[Dan Carcillo]

Like Carlos Bakery a lot or something.

[Gavin McKenna]

I think he sees a path to winning or at least going deep. And maybe those teams that offered four or five were just shit, shithole teams, you know. So you know, anywho, I think, yeah, Connor Brown speed, you know, versatile player, plays, you know, relatively physical brand of hockey. The bottom six was a complete black hole. So I think that was nice. I love the Daganov signing. I think low risk, you know, that's a guy that can play up and down the lineup. Yan, I know you mentioned you love his game. Nice scoring touch. The Devils need more scoring touch whether it's on Jack's wing or in the bottom six. So great ad but the reason I'm not ready to say that, you know, I love their off season is because they got to get rid of pilot that 6 million. There's a lot of rumors that Dougie Hamilton's name's in trade. Rumors they still need a top six winger, bottom three C. So I still think there's some major, major moves coming for Fitzy. Yeah, I think they need a 3C top 6 winger. How they get there. I think ultimately we'll have to see Palat get, you know, traded out. But yeah, I think the work for them is just beginning. So I'm not ready to kind of give a grade for their off season quite yet.

[Dan Carcillo]

Three years ago when Palat signed there, you were like, this guy's gonna, he's coming from Tampa, he's gonna get us to where we want to be. He's gonna bring the wind. And to want the man to get bought out.

[Gavin McKenna]

I did say all that and I, and I still think he's, you know, I think he's a really good piece in the sense of what he brings like winning battles and obviously in the room. But the guy's just lost a step. He's been battled like, you know, he played a hard game his whole career and he's just not worth 6 million bucks.

[Ryan Whitney]

I think injuries have, like, crushed. It was almost a contract at the time. You might, you might think, ah, this might come, you know, back and bite them a little bit. But it's, it's just happened a little quicker than you maybe imagine. But he's been injured a lot.

[Gavin McKenna]

Like, he's been injured a lot, as has the whole team. I think if the team had been healthier the last two years, that's like two extra cup runs he would have contributed to. And overall the deal would have looked better than, you know, or at least deeper playoff runs. I mean, because they missed last two last year. This year they were so banged up they won one game. So, yeah, I mean, listen, I think Palot was overall a net benefit, but I don't think they'll have a problem finding a team, you know, like an Anaheim or San Jose to bring in or Chicago even bring in that veteran leadership.

[Mike Grinelli]

Who do you view the, the powerhouses in the metro? Carolina's at the top now. Where do you view them finishing second or third? The Metro next season?

[Gavin McKenna]

Number two. Right now, if they do make some big swings and get a legitimate top six winger in a third line center, I could see them finishing on top of Carolina.

[Dan Carcillo]

But right now, Washington was a fluke this year.

[Gavin McKenna]

Yeah, Washington, as much as I love their team. Yeah, they're, they were on a PDO bender. They were a fluke.

[Dan Carcillo]

They are.

[Gavin McKenna]

They were not as good as they showed.

[Ryan Whitney]

Definitely.

[Mike Grinelli]

What's a pdo?

[Gavin McKenna]

PDO is a combination under the hood. Under the hood shooting percentage combined with save percentage. Same thing with the Canucks the year prior on a PDO bender. Just unsustainable. Every shot's going in and you're getting every save. Just historically, those numbers are not sustainable. They always kind of come down to the median.

[Mike Grinelli]

So I don't know, that's what they said about us in Arizona, Yans. And we went three years in a row and then that every year they had US ranked 14th or 15th in the Western Conference. We made playoffs all of those years. And the last year that, the third year, that's when we went to the conference final. So you could shove that PDL right up your five hole, my friend.

[Ryan Whitney]

Pasha, I, I, I know you're, you're, you're happy with the Devils, you're not in love with the off season, but I, I'd like to hear your opinion on the Rangers because not even you can say it's been a Disaster for them. They had a hell of a deal getting what they did for Keandre Miller. The Will Cooley contract, that was money. I. I thought he like bringing him back. That's a legit move. Taylor Radish, like, I think the Rangers are figuring it out a little bit, Pasha. And you know it, don't you?

[Gavin McKenna]

I think, I think all those moves you mentioned are, are, you know, solid moves. I think Jury's done some tidy business. But.

[Ryan Whitney]

And Gabrico. I didn't even mention Gavrikov. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gavin McKenna]

I think Gabricov is a nice ad. But listen, this is. That's a team that needs a lot more than just a few sort of solid moves. Like I give all those moves kind of like a B. B plus like. But this team needs a lot more than a few kind of BB plus moves. But yes, I will say compared to the usual moves that Drury makes good moves. And I've said. I think I said it on game notes. I don't know what Drury has on Pat Verbeek to get him to be taking contracts like Truba and Kreider and getting extra assets for it instead of having to pay to get those off the books. But that's tidy work to kind of get rid of those.

[Mike Grinelli]

You think he's got dirt on him?

[Gavin McKenna]

I mean, he must. I don't know why Verbeek's just throwing them all these bones, taking on these bad contracts.

[Mike Grinelli]

He did hire Cronin.

[Ryan Whitney]

There you go. Illuminati.

[Mike Grinelli]

You guys are the ones who said that he shouldn't be there.

[Dan Carcillo]

Pasha.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, we're getting blamed now, do you think?

[Mike Grinelli]

I didn't even know who the guy was until I saw his blood pressure on the bench.

[Dan Carcillo]

Now, now that they don't, that the guys don't have to do testing for training camp. Do you think that hurts or helps Jack Hughes? Because the whole talk you were saying earlier is he needs to get in the gym, he needs to be working out. But do you think that it's going to be more ice time for him instead of hang out with time?

[Gavin McKenna]

I think that's irrelevant. I think Fitzy made it very clear in his presser that hey, we need more out of Jack in terms of putting on muscle. I think he said that publicly to try light up under fire under his ass. And I actually just saw a photo of Hughes some. Someone like retweeted on Instagram of him just the other day in the summer and he's looking like he's put on.

[Mike Grinelli]

Everybody looks more Jacked with a tan Mitch Marner.

[Ryan Whitney]

You get a filter and all of.

[Gavin McKenna]

A sudden filter he's putting on it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Jack might have a s new filter on the newest iPhone that only he has that you can add a little definition to it.

[Mike Grinelli]

Marner looked like Seabomb at the Vegas press conference, for crying out loud.

[Ryan Whitney]

Let's answer your question.

[Gavin McKenna]

Y I don't think it changes. I think Jack knows he's got a bulk whether or not there's testing or not.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right. Hey, I'll tell you, you can say right now, no matter what, the Devils are getting second in the Metro. Okay. I, I, I think the jury, we'll see what happens there. But a team who's also done some work quickly is the New York Islanders. Guys, I love the druid signing, right? They bring him over. They get Schaefer in the first round. They get Ekon in the first round. The other defenseman, I can't think of his Atchison, maybe first round. It's been a very solid, quick moving off season for Matthew Darsh. And with that, I think it's time to talk to Matthew Shea. For this kid, I mean, he's kind of like a cartoon character. Like he's a 17 year old that just, just, just literally dummied biz for 50 minutes coming up. So check this out. Biz. Do you have any final words before people?

[Mike Grinelli]

I just got a text from Jeff Kurzakis, a guy I used to play junior hockey with. And Owen Sound, this guy would get the worst lace bite. He had the graph skates. His ankles were like the size of my knees for how bad they were. But he just sent me a photo and he's going to the Coldplay concert with Schaefer Shafe daddy.

[Ryan Whitney]

And that's why he was all.

[Dan Carcillo]

Because this guy probably made fun of you his whole career.

[Mike Grinelli]

Oh, yeah. He goes, how was shave today? Just headed to Coldplay concert with him. I go, absolute legend, legend. He sends me a picture. I go, I just got carved for 40 minutes during the interview. That's it was. He might have a Netflix special by the time this one comes out. But just talk about a kid. I said the same thing about Celebrini, even Misa. Like these kids are like beyond their years now. And just I felt like I was Talking to a 30 year old grownup is the sense that I got. And, and even though he only played half a season, you know exactly why the Islanders picked him first overall if I had him in that meeting, if this was a meeting to draft him I take it him first overall and he put me in a locker just like the Florida Panthers did and majority of fan bases out there in the NHL after my Leafs got dummy. So great interview. Thanks to G for setting this one up and I can't wait for you guys to hear it. And this kid's going to be an absolute stud. Guys. Let's talk about Rose Sparks, a two in one prescription treatment for stronger, harder erections. Rose Sparks dissolves under your tongue, meaning they hit your bloodstream faster than pills, so you can get ready for the action quicker. Once the medication dissolves, they work in about 15 minutes on average, giving you the boost you need for thicker, longer erections and helping you last longer for more fun for both of you. Plus, Rose Sparks stay active in your system for up to 36 hours. That means you can be ready to go round after round after round or even in the morning. And there's no awkward in person doctor visits. RO can connect you with medical providers 100% online and if prescribed, your treatment ships right to your door. If prescribed. Also, new sexual health patients get $15 off Sparks on a recurring plan. Connect with your provider at Roe Co Chiclets to find out if prescription Rose Sparks are right for you. That's ro col for $15 off your first order. Roast sparks to the rescue showing.

[Ryan Whitney]

We are pleased, very pleased to be joined right now by the most recent. That's right, Keith, number one overall selection in the NHL draft, the newest member of the New York Islanders, Matthew Schaefer. What is going on, bud?

[F]

Not much. I'm excited to do this with you boys. I've been. I saw you guys just did me and stuff, so that was pretty funny. I Biz was, you know, same old biz. So excited to do this, boys. Thanks for having me.

[Mike Grinelli]

I met him in a tunnel down there in Florida when they brought the four top dogs in. And I think you were the only one who didn't chirp my sunburn. So of course we wanted to get you on. I said they covered it up a.

[F]

Bit because I was like, biz, that's a lot of makeup, right? And you're like, hey, I was on the beach all day today. I'm moving just laying down a little.

[Mike Grinelli]

Different than the Arizona sun with the, with the moisture. So it, yeah, it got me pretty good, buddy. But I'm sure your last few weeks here have been a whirlwind. How, how was it though, getting experience that Stanley cup final and getting to see that action live and I mean, how fast those guys are and how. How well built they are.

[F]

Yeah, that's pretty sweet. I've never seen. I've only seen Toronto because back at home biz, I make a big Toronto guy. But, yeah, this is the first time. I mean, obviously I've been to Buffalo too close by, but Florida's another. Another world out there. It's sweet. We like. It's electric there. Like, the fans love it. The boys were flying out there that night. There was a couple scrums, but, I mean, they were a solid team. And we had. We had breakfast with Marshy in the morning, so we were. We. So we met all the guys on Florida, and then we met Connor and all them at Edmonton, so it was pretty sweet. And just to see, like, their mindset in the morning, like, they're all smiling, they're joking around, they're so loose. And then Obviously, when game 10 comes, they're. They're pretty dialed in, so it's pretty cool to see.

[Dan Carcillo]

Hey, him talking about Florida like this. Zito might be making a trade here. He'll be coming down.

[Ryan Whitney]

Don't listen to him.

[F]

I'm not even allowed anymore. I'm an Islander now, so not a boy. News for life. So that's.

[Ryan Whitney]

Dude, I knew. I knew you made it. When I saw. Was it. Was it like Summer bar, Long island bars that just had your jersey hanging this past weekend, I'm like, oh, this kid's doing it.

[F]

The fans are awesome.

[Ryan Whitney]

They.

[F]

Yeah, like, we. We had a scrimmage, we had some practices, and the fans were coming out all the time, so I got to meet all them. They're amazing. I mean, I'd step on the ice and they're all cheering for me. And I remember in the scrimmage, I got hit and I fell, and all the fans started booing the guy who hit me, so. So, no, it's. It's sweet. Like, the fans are awesome. Just from. That was my first time being on Long island, so I've been to New York City before, but Long Island's sweet.

[Mike Grinelli]

I want to go.

[F]

I want to go golfing there. I heard all the. The golf courses and stuff are pretty sweet there in the Hamptons.

[Mike Grinelli]

So we're gonna have to get Frankie Brelli to take you out. Have you been to Pirelli's yet?

[Ryan Whitney]

He'll stop you in his basement. Like, tied him up.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, it's the. It's the perfect pregame meal if you want heartburn and eating Tums in between periods. Unbelievable. Pizza. I want to say the pizza maker has been there for 120 years. I think he's 160 years old.

[Ryan Whitney]

He sleeps there.

[Mike Grinelli]

He does it. Yeah, he sleeps in the oven. They don't. They obviously don't have it.

[F]

He's known for pizza and stuff too. Right. The pizza's there and then the bacon, egg and ch. I heard it's. Well, we had the one night we had pizza. Was. It was nuts. It was good. It was good.

[Ryan Whitney]

How.

[Dan Carcillo]

How was development camp? I remember being so nervous going out there. Didn't really. I mean, you guys obviously know a little bit more than we do nowadays, but it's like it was so nerve wracking.

[F]

No, it was good. Like the draft is all good, but it's good to be over in a. In a way too because there's just so much media and it's good to get on the ice. Obviously, you know, they're picking you because you know the person and player you are and the media and all that's really good. But it's good to get on the ice and, you know, play the game too. Right. So, you know, it was a busy couple days. You played at Riviera golf course, so that was. Well, I saw you guys talking to me about that. I. Yeah.

[Mike Grinelli]

You want to hear my story again?

[F]

Let's hear it.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's told.

[F]

The top three worst stories go to, eh. Yeah. We don't got much time. Biz will be here for hours.

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, a former boxer was standing there in business. Eat off. Yeah, that's. That's the cliff.

[Dan Carcillo]

Whoa.

[Mike Grinelli]

I hit the fairway, I hit the fair ones. Probably for ones with a world champion boxer watching me. I don't know if you've ever had any celebrities watching ut off, but it is a bit nerve wracking.

[F]

Hey, first. First told. Jitters are like the worst thing ever. You, you come up, you're hitting the range, you're getting fired up. First hole. I was the first guy up. So we're, we're golfing and they go on deck. Now after you shave, I go, oh, shit. I don't know. What are we going to do here, boys? So then I go up and I'm like, hey, I guess I'll take one for the team. I'm doing a couple of practice things, feeling pretty nice, and then I smoke it. But then it's going. But then it starts going right and like it's pretty wide. It's pretty wide on the fairway, but it wasn't as bad. Misa's was terrible. He set it far right.

[Mike Grinelli]

That's why you went second.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Grinelli]

It was all in that drive. No, but, hey, this guy's the definition of a show Hl guy, isn't he? Show Hl in him, doesn't he?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. Oh, actually, we saw. We were talking about. I don't know if it was on air. We're talking about the videos the NHL did leading up to the draft, and you're. It was like 10 minutes yours. It showed a lot of you with Mark Giordano, right?

[F]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

How did you get. How did you get to know him? Like, most people remember and understand how good that guy was. He won a Norris Trophy and he's like 35. But what was your connection and what have you guys been working on?

[F]

Yeah, so I'm working out at Brian Marshall. He's in Mississauga. So you know Monahan, Lauden, all those guys work out there. Drysdale. So Mark Giordano used to work out there. And then he promised Marshy that he would be the D coach for the guys. So I'm working with him all summer. We got. It's awesome. Like, everything's there. Obviously, you got all the show guys and going up against. That's pretty, like, key for me if, obviously I want to be playing next. Next season. So to build up against guys like that and then have Geo as a D coach, and Geo didn't get drafted in the Ohlr NHL, so he knows what it takes and, like, all the work that he had to put in to get to where he was. I mean, like you said, he won a Norris, but, like, nothing was given to him, and that's what you need. And, like, to have a guy like that that you can rely on and ask stuff is amazing.

[Mike Grinelli]

He's a sick puppy. Like, in the gym, too. He's probably still chucking the weights around, isn't he?

[F]

Oh, 100 he was. So I was talking to Marshy, like, my trainer. He's like, yeah. Like, when he was in the gym, he was dialed like it was him. Monahan, like, they're two, like, just studs in the gym. And they work hard. Like, the bike and everything. They're. They're. They're athletes, but they're. They're. They're strong.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Dan Carcillo]

It must be nice for you guys. I know when we were growing up, me and Whit, there wasn't a ton of guys around the Boston area in the NHL, but we had guys like Mike Greer, Jay Pandolfo, and you see them in the weight room, and it's like, wow. This is a job. Like these guys are treating it like a job. So I'm sure especially for you at such a young age to be around that must be huge.

[F]

Yeah, 100%. They're, I mean, the day to day routine, I mean all the guys are great guys too. They care for you and you know, to go on and off the ice with them and you know, go for breakfast or lunch and just be with them and it goes a long way. And especially as a young kid having those guys to rely on, it's pretty cool.

[Mike Grinelli]

You, I read that you wanted to emulate your game off of or you look up to kill Makar. Obviously that's kind of the number one guy in the NHL. One thing that's been talked about a lot is your skating ability. Now what did you do growing up differently? Were you able to get access to like unreal power skating coaches? Like, what type of work did you put in to get your stride and your skating to where it is?

[F]

Yeah, I'll, I'll tell you a story. So at my high school that I went to here in Stony Creek, there's a sports camp that we do every year. And all the kids when we were younger would go power skating and go like, you know, six times a week, like just all on the Ace. And my dad was like, no, like I want you to be a kid and go to the sports camp. And you know, I'm with all my buddies. Like I want you to be with your buddies. And they're like, you know, the hockey can wait. I mean, you gotta, you gotta be a kid too. So I, I wouldn't do much power skating or anything. I, I'd just be on the rollerblades a lot. I'd be skating like when I'm skating. But honestly, I think just over time from like rollerblading, I mean my brother would rollerblade all the time and shoot on my mom and net and she'd put on the pads. So there. Honestly, I think just from over time, like being on the rollers and you know, going on the ice, you just become better skater and you work on things like, you know, I'm doing mohawks and my rollerblades, like up and down and just doing a lot. So I think over time it's just practice and then just kind of translated. But I didn't do a crazy amount of power skating or anything. Probably, you know, similar to every other kid a couple times a week, not much.

[Mike Grinelli]

But yeah, my rollerblades just got them Amazon quick delivery.

[Ryan Whitney]

This is gonna have Ones with the stopper on the back, though.

[F]

He's gonna be like, yeah, oh, no, I'd love to watch that biz. Do you really play much or.

[Mike Grinelli]

No? No, no. I might actually now I'm going to Vancouver. I'm, I'm leaving in a couple days, so they got the seawall there. I'm gonna be rollerblading all summer. I might switch from a ball hockey to the roller division for check up.

[F]

I played a house league, roller hockey league. It's pre farm.

[Ryan Whitney]

Like still right now, still?

[F]

Yeah. No, so I, I played a couple years ago with my buddies, but then, like, it got so busy that there was just no time, but we'd, we'd play. It's like every Monday night. It was in Mississauga. It's fun. Like, you go, you put on the rollers and it's a little tough to stop, though, but like the biscuits, like, so light, so you just rip it. Oh, yeah, it's fun. Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

She's saying on the chat here that I think roller hockey is enormous in Long island, so that, that's gonna.

[F]

Yeah, so, Yeah, I know. I'm, I mean, roller was, Roller was good. I mean, I, I, I honestly love to play it because, I mean, it's still hockey, but it's also like a break too, from on the ice. So it was fun. I played with a couple buddies, so.

[Ryan Whitney]

That'S actually interesting to hear. Your dad, like, you know, there's a lot of kids and I understand why people do it where they're playing hockey all summer from 7 years old. Yeah, but your dad was like, hey, be a kid, Play you. I'm guessing you played other sports if you're doing the sports camp and stuff.

[F]

Yeah, no, I, I think my dad learned with my brother as well, because my brother's nine and a half years older than me, and he played in the OHL for five years with Niagara. So I think he got to learn through my brother. And maybe it was not as hard on, you know, me as my brother, and my brother probably did a little bit more than me. And then my dad's like, you also got to be kid. And he's, I mean, he, I think he learned through my brother where he could, you know, translate to me. And he wasn't as much, you know, like, be a kid too. The hockey will come. And, you know, there's a lot more to life than just hockey. Right.

[Dan Carcillo]

So you must have been leaning on your brother a lot, even, you know, going to the OHL and growing up a nine year Difference is a big difference. He was probably almost like an uncle to you.

[F]

Yeah, yeah, he's like a second dad now. He. Him and my dad, like, before games, always give him the pregame chats. Now my brother's getting in there, he's like, hey, block some shots. You know, do this. Because he was a big. He's a PK specialist back in the day. So I remember saying in an interview, I was like, yeah, you know, I got to look up to my brother. He taught me how to block some shots. And my brother's loving it too. He's like, oh, I mean, I give it to him. But no, he's. I mean, he's helped me so much, obviously. I used to love going to the OHL games. I used to think I was the man, like, with my brother playing on the team, and it was pretty cool. And I think even back then I was like, dohl's the. The way to go because my brother played there and I looked up to him. So, yeah, it was pretty cool to experience him going through it and then. And then me to go through it.

[Mike Grinelli]

So, yeah, Yan's block one shot in his NHL career and he almost fist fought a teammate in the parking lot after the game. So that was the last.

[Dan Carcillo]

Him and Boyd Gordon paid the goalies very well. So let the goalies. I never asked the goalies to play the power play for me, so I never blocked.

[F]

Yeah, so you never block shots. That's why. That's why is I. I guess you guys weren't, you know, very much friends at all and goalies don't like you. No, no.

[Dan Carcillo]

Hated me.

[Ryan Whitney]

No.

[Mike Grinelli]

He can't go to Russia.

[F]

Bris Gola like the fake block, but, like, slide too far and be like, oh, you need eat it. So then he's going in the boards. You know, he knows.

[Mike Grinelli]

I hope you didn't say that in your.

[Dan Carcillo]

Don't let your brother hear this.

[F]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. He might have to punch you too.

[Ryan Whitney]

So, hey, this season it was because I'd heard a lot about you kind of going into the year, right when you start hearing about who's going to possibly number one, and then all of a sudden, like, the injuries mount up and. And world juniors happens. The team looks so different once you got hurt. How. How tough was that for you? Like, was there worry, like, man, I might not go first overall? Was it more just. This sucks. I'm not playing right now. Because it had to affect you mentally, not just physically.

[F]

Yeah, I, you know, no hockey player doesn't like to watch the game and like right after it happened, I mean, obviously I think.

[Ryan Whitney]

And what happened? Sorry, Explain the injury.

[F]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

So.

[F]

Well, at the start of the season I had mono right away. So I didn't start the season off till, I want to say, October. So that was kind of the first bump. And then I. And then in the season I got to play. I played 17 games, the OHL and then there was a couple top prospect games and then we're at the World Juniors and I played the first game versus Finland and then versus Latvia. I ran, I went down the ice, got the puck and I smoked the post. So basically every. The go to question is, did you see the post? And yeah, I saw the post, but what happened was so I was, I was going pretty fast and I, I shot it and then I followed my rebound and then I didn't think I was in line with the post. I thought I still had room and then I turned back and it was already pretty late because I was going so fast. And then I hit the post and I like, I didn't know what happened. I didn't really feel much. It was kind of just a big hit right in the post and then I got off and obviously some tears. And it wasn't because I was in pain or anything. It was just because I couldn't play. It's the biggest tournament, you know, you look up to playing in the World Juniors and it's on home soil too, in front of all the fans. And playing in game one versus Finland was like sick. It was, you know, the, one of the best games I probably played in and the fans are going crazy. It's. It's like a sold out NHL barn. It's your first time. That's one of the most fans they played in front. So I mean like to get injured in such a big, big event, a big tournament, I think it's more for the guys too is, you know, we went to an army base and we were team bonding. We did so much stuff leading up where it's like, you know, you put so much time and effort and you become a family and then, you know, to get injured, you want to be there for the guys. And you know, after that I had the option if I wanted to go home and get surgery or do it there and I want to do it there so I could stay with the guys just to be there. I mean, obviously I was more a lineup guy then when I was off it was, you know, giving guys taps on the back and you know, doing lineups and Trying to get them fired up. I mean, we. We. We put on a song before we go out, and me and Gibby Gibson, we'd. We'd, like, dance out. And so then, like, after that, I'd be in the sling and I'd be dancing out with them.

[Mike Grinelli]

So.

[F]

Yeah, I think just, you know, being able to get the surgery there and then, like, stay with the guys was a big one for me because, you know, I wouldn't have wanted to go home. It would have been worse. Right. So to be around the guys, I mean, they'd help me a lot. And, you know, I tried to help in any way possible for them, so.

[Mike Grinelli]

What a guy.

[Ryan Whitney]

So how, like, what did you think you'd still be going one, you know, because, like, you missed that much time. Like, I think they've seen enough and they understood how good you were, but it had to be like, I don't know where I'm going now. Right.

[F]

Yeah. No, obviously we have such a talented draft class. I mean, a lot of people could have won one for sure, and there really wasn't much I could control. I just enjoy it. I mean, a lot. A lot of people get so. So in their head about it and it. And it hurts them. You gotta enjoy it. This is the first goal. This is going to be the only time I go through an NHL draft and, you know, to go to the combine and, you know, do all these things, it's pretty fun. It's cool. And, you know, you look back on, oh, like, you know, that BO2 sucked. But, like, you talk about it with the guys, like, you know, things like that. And, you know, at the comment that was the last time we're gonna see a lot of the guys because then. And, you know, be together too, because they're all going their ways to team. So honestly, I think the biggest thing was just enjoying it and being there for my team at. At the time in Erie, we were in, you know, playoffs and all that, and I started to skate, but like I said, I. I wasn't able to be on the ice. So just be there for them and then, you know, whatever. Whatever is meant to happen, you know, would obviously happen down the road. But don't get too far ahead of yourself.

[Mike Grinelli]

Do you have a nickname, like a special one the guys give you?

[Dan Carcillo]

Let me guess.

[F]

Shave. Shave. Daddy.

[Mike Grinelli]

Shave. Okay. Huh?

[F]

No, that's how you got Shave.

[Dan Carcillo]

Nasty.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, I was.

[F]

My brother. Yeah.

[Mike Grinelli]

Okay, so he got the mast.

[F]

All right.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Mike Grinelli]

Hey, don't come in with you two guys, like, oh, I'm Just gonna shave. Like, maybe he's got a funny one the guys gave him or something.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey, thank you. Meet a guy, Mike Smith. What's your nickname? Smitty.

[Dan Carcillo]

It's gonna be the makeout monster. Isn't three of you chirping me?

[Mike Grinelli]

For crying out loud sake.

[Ryan Whitney]

The makeup monster for mono.

[Mike Grinelli]

I got. I got an 18 year old going first overall. Chirp me. All right, good.

[F]

Thanks for coming on the pod. Hey, 17, still busy. You should know that.

[Mike Grinelli]

Wow, you're still showy.

[F]

This.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey, this guy's all over you.

[Mike Grinelli]

Busy, busy.

[F]

Yeah, Busy. I'm not having a good time. You don't even know my age.

[Ryan Whitney]

Come on. Come on. Hey, this is Show Hl. Hey, Misa and this guy Biz. These guys are slinging around with us. I think the game's changing here. You're very. You seem comfortable with the microphone.

[F]

Yeah, I. I mean, you guys make it easy to. Obviously. Like, we watch all these and you guys are just yourselves, which is good. It's like a lot of interviews are like, super. You know, they get to the point and they're like, oh, like, what kind of style do you play? Like, things like that. You guys are like super open.

[Ryan Whitney]

We're teaching you how to block shots.

[F]

Exactly. Hey, you teach me to block shots so I don't get in the fight.

[Mike Grinelli]

So shape daddy. I was going to ask you, how do you deal with pressure? Or maybe it doesn't even feel like pressure to you. You go first overall, OHL draft to the Erie Otters, Obviously first overall. Now playing world juniors, like, like, do you ever. Do you ever feel like, you know, it's a lot or you just kind of enjoying every day by day?

[F]

Yeah, no, obviously enjoy it day by day. Obviously there's gonna be a lot of pressure, but zone it out. I think that's a big one that, like, guys, do you play the game because you love it? Obviously it's a job, but you're gonna enjoy it as you do it too. Like, like, you know, playing in the world Juniors, yeah, there could be pressure, but it's like one of the biggest tournaments. It was on home soil. Like, it's fun and, you know, going out in warm ups. Like, all the fans around, you're like, this is nuts. Like, you're just excited. You're pumped to play. So, yeah, like, obviously there's a lot of pressure, but, like, you zone it out and you, you know, you play the game because you love it. So if there's no fun in the game, then, like, why. Why are you playing the game, right, you gotta. You gotta enjoy it. And it becomes a battle, and it comes a long year for sure. And, you know, when you're, you know, hanging out with the guys, going out for dinner, doing a lot of things with the guys, like, that's. That's like the things you remember as well.

[Ryan Whitney]

Did you always play D or did you move back?

[F]

Yeah, yeah, I was always D because my brother was. My brother was a defenseman. So then, honestly, he wore number 42 because Danny Brier. So there's a little story that I don't know if you guys saw, but my brother picked 40 because Danny Beer. And then I picked it because my brother. And then I was the fenceman because my brother was so. I mean, obviously I looked up to my brother quite a bit in that sense. And I mean, the number kept going, and hopefully in New York, I can get that too.

[Dan Carcillo]

Did you get it at Dev camp?

[F]

No, I got 71 at dev camp.

[Mike Grinelli]

Pigeon.

[Dan Carcillo]

No, 50s are the pigeon numbers. Like me, and I got 58.

[Mike Grinelli]

Biz was 50, and then Latang took it.

[F]

Yeah, you probably took it because you were right.

[Mike Grinelli]

And then I got 67, an even bigger Pigeon number. But I had a great training camp, and I'm like, okay, I end up making the team, and I'm liking it. We go two games over the world, premier games overseas. I get back, trainer goes, pick a new number. I go, I kind of like 67. He's like, no, it looks too much like 87. Like Crosby, pick a new number. Pigeon. I would say, okay, that was it. That was. That's my number story. My. My boxing story.

[Dan Carcillo]

Did you have any conversations with, you know, the islanders about what, you know, what next year is going to look like for you? You're getting ready for camp?

[F]

Yeah, no, not really yet, obviously. I think my goal is to, you know, play. Play at the end of the summer. And I think that's, you know, what they. What they heard from me. Obviously, all they said, you know, just go home. We obviously had training camp. It was pretty busy. So, you know, I think the biggest thing is just for me is putting on weight and muscle because it's a lot bigger and stronger, faster guys. And especially if I want to play an extreme, I'll be 18 by the time. But still, I'm still, you know, transforming my body, so there's still a lot of things I need to work on. And, you know, we'll figure it out more down the road, I think. I think soon we'll. We'll talk about it, but I think the biggest thing was just, you know, go home, relax, and, you know, enjoy the summer a bit to yourself and get a break. But, yeah, I think we'll. I think we'll talk soon.

[Mike Grinelli]

Are they having you eat, like, more calories? Like, what are you at, like, 35, 4, 000 calories a day?

[F]

I think they want me on the. The biz diet where you just, like, eat whatever.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, goat.

[F]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

You want to get goat?

[F]

No, it's like, my trainer and I have a plan. A lot of protein. I mean, I'm. I'm, like mid to high 180s, which is not bad. And I was. I was. I was like, is there a weight I should be at? He's like, it's more like how you feel, like, with, like, a lot of strength. So we'll see. We'll see what I get up to.

[Ryan Whitney]

So did you know prior that you were going one? I think everyone figured it, but, like, before they're saying number one selection, do you know? All right, this is me right now.

[F]

Yeah, I. I was hopeful, obviously, and like I said, I had talks with them at the combine, and I went for dinner, and, you know, I was hopeful. I mean, I felt good. So, you know, you. You didn't know for sure.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay.

[F]

But I was. I was. I was hopeful that, you know, it would be them because, you know, obviously they're number one. And like I said, there's a lot of talented guys in the draft, and, you know, anyone could have went there. And I think everyone can say this, too, but you want to be that top guy, obviously, and, you know, you want to be one of the best. So obviously, you know, number one played a part, but like I said, there was really nothing you can control, and you just had to enjoy it.

[Ryan Whitney]

So. You mentioned you're 17. I just looked up September 5th birthday.

[F]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Is it. Is it. Is it September? If it was September 15th, would you be next year?

[F]

Yeah, it'd be late. Yeah. Ten days away from the later drafts.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, wow. So you're actually a younger kid for your birth year in all these years, going 1 overall. Wow.

[F]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

And G told us, or mentioned in the chat, like, I think he read something you said. Brady Martin's, like, the funniest guy. You know, Nashville's pick fifth overall. How have you known him for so long? You grew up playing together?

[F]

Yeah. So he. He was in Waterloo. He lives in Waterloo, that area. So I'd play. I played some, like, spring tournaments with them, obviously Team Canada tournaments. We played together. But like when you meet him, like that's what you're getting from him. He's just typical. Like, oh, he's, he's hilarious like you. Everyone would be like, oh, he's like this how he is all the time.

[Mike Grinelli]

Like.

[F]

But like you'd be like always. You put on a show for the boys to make everyone laugh. But it's him. Like, that's him. And he's a great guy too. Like he's amazing. Like, oh yeah. Like there's obviously a lot of stories of him just making us just laugh and it was, it was pretty cool the setup they had for the draft too. They were at the, at the farm. They had a big TV up on the tractor. So that's like Brady Martin. That's where like his job should have been. I mean that's a him.

[Ryan Whitney]

So. So, so pump up the Preds fans for your boy here. Like, what are they getting in his game? Is he like just a rough farmer?

[F]

Oh yeah, he's. He's a power forward that can put the puck in the back of the net. He can lay the body pretty line dance. Oh, of course. You can pull out any tricks.

[Ryan Whitney]

Can he milk a cow?

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah.

[F]

Oh yeah, Ken, you can. Yes. Yeah. I, I haven't been to the farm yet, but I, I want to go there soon. It's pretty sweet though here. So I think there's like some crazy amount of chickens too, Yaz.

[Mike Grinelli]

So we should do like a country combine. You gotta like bail hay a two step with the cowboy boots on. Do it all. So he was, was he a show Hl guy too? Yeah, I feel like the Ontario had a very strong draft. Like of the four guys that were down there in Florida, there was three. Three Ohl guys or three Ontario guys?

[F]

Yeah, it was. So yeah, at the, at game three was me, Misa and o' Brien and then it was Hagens and then he. And then Brady Martin played in the Sioux this year. So he was, he's a, he's a great guy though. Like if you guys ever get to meet him, like, they'll probably have you laughing.

[Mike Grinelli]

So we're gonna get overran on this pod. Young, young bucks.

[Dan Carcillo]

All the, you know, you see nowadays, especially now that you know you can go from the CHL to college. Like, have you been getting phone calls from these college coaches wanting you to go there next year and like, how sick is that?

[F]

Yeah, I, I think maybe more to my, my agent. I, I haven't heard much. I think my agent definitely got some calls and all that. But like I said, I think my goal is to play in the NHL next season. So, you know, until. If I have to worry about that, then I'll worry about it. But I think it's more just, you know, getting in the gym, on the ice this summer. And then, you know, like I said, whatever. Whatever is meant to happen will happen. I mean, if I'm ready, then I'll play. If not, then we'll see otherwise. But like I said, I think it's just, you know, keeping the head down.

[Mike Grinelli]

Shave, Daddy. If you're interested, my old alma mater, Davenport University, I bet you they could throw a pretty big bag. But it'd probably be more than what you get for signing from Brady's Farm.

[F]

Yeah. Oh, I'm never gonna get over the sheep, Daddy. I like that.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, I like.

[F]

You're learning. Hey, you're learning.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey, so tonight you're headed in.

[Mike Grinelli]

This guy's not a control with. He's out of control.

[Dan Carcillo]

He's got your seat now, Biz, you're gone.

[Mike Grinelli]

All right, good knowing all you guys.

[Ryan Whitney]

We got a new host as you're calling the Islanders.

[Mike Grinelli]

Hey, I'm hanging them up. Gonna join the pot.

[Ryan Whitney]

They bring Lou back to grab him. Hey, tonight you're going to Coldplay, you said. You ever seen those guys, like, your big concert, dude?

[F]

No, I'm honestly. So my first concert was last summer. Morgan Wallens.

[Mike Grinelli]

I'm going to Morgan Wallen.

[F]

Arm Thursday, I'm going to Miami. So, I mean, I'm seeing Cold playing, then Morgan back to back, so it's pretty sweet. Like, I heard, baby, once you go there, it's like.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, they're. They're.

[F]

Every concert's like, all right. Because, like, Cold place is, like, so sweet, so.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, buddy. I went 2009, I think, in at the Garden. It's. It's incredible. Like, and I. And I like. I like some Coldplay songs, but didn't know much. But, dude, yeah, you're in for it.

[F]

Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm excited. We're going with Jack Ivankovic and his family, so he went to Nashville, so he's. He's a awesome guy. Great, great, great goalie, though. So I'm shooting on him in the summer.

[Mike Grinelli]

So who you going to Miami with? His family?

[F]

No, I'm going with my girlfriend and her family.

[Mike Grinelli]

Okay, so you got a girl?

[F]

Oh, yeah, I do.

[Ryan Whitney]

Okay. It changes.

[F]

You're doing a creepy smile right now.

[Mike Grinelli]

No, I'm happy for you.

[Dan Carcillo]

This is gonna be looking up her Instagram.

[Mike Grinelli]

She's only 17.

[F]

Thought you were gonna cheer me.

[Mike Grinelli]

No, I wasn't. You got your. It seems like you got your figured out, man, that I'm, I'm. I'm happy for you. Christ.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, he's gonna be like, she have any friends?

[F]

Is he looking away as he's talking? It's like he's like nervous cuz he's.

[Ryan Whitney]

Checking his Instagram like Keith said.

[Mike Grinelli]

I was not. I had my eyes locked on the screen. I can only imagine Granelli laughing his dick off behind the scenes right now. You guys torturing me. So when you were drafted to Erie, like, did you get to talk to Connor right away? Just to kind of know what it was like, the transition, going first overall and also playing for an organization. Like when I was in the ohl, Erie was very dominant. I believe that they won the OHL championship at that time. So what was your. Your initial interaction and what was your experience? Like? Over two years.

[F]

So I met Connor when we retired his jersey. That was the first time I met him. So that's. It was crazy. So we, we did the press conference for him and it was him and all his family talking. And then I get called up on stage to talk about him. And you guys have heard, you know, the proud story. So I. I run out of things to say and then I look over and I go, proud of you. And I what am I doing right, buddy?

[Ryan Whitney]

That's one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Oh, that would make sense. Meeting you though.

[F]

I mean, I think he gets it though. Young kid going up, talking about, you know, one of the best. And I mean, I run out of things to say. So I pull out the Connor.

[Dan Carcillo]

That is so good.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's gonna try to walk you this year.

[F]

Hey. He's gonna walk me, dance me, score. And they go, I'm proud of you.

[Ryan Whitney]

Proud of you, kid.

[F]

Yeah. No, but yeah. So that's the first time I met him. He was amazing. I obviously broke my collarbone, you know, just before that. So I got to talk to him a bit about that. But he was obviously super busy. Comeback year. Everyone loves him there, so got to meet him there. And then we saw him at game three, so it was pretty cool. He came up, give me a nice dab up, and got to talk to the guys.

[Mike Grinelli]

Did you hear the pop? Did you get the pop on the dab up?

[F]

It was. I think it was more like a soft. Because like, I'm going in. I'm just like a nice little soft touch, you know?

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, no, you're like, I'm proud of you, son. Proud of you, son. You tapped him on the head.

[Mike Grinelli]

This kid, the funniest kid in the world.

[Dan Carcillo]

I love him.

[Ryan Whitney]

Who was your idol growing up? Besides your brother or uncle?

[Dan Carcillo]

Brother McDavid looked up to him.

[F]

No, no, I'm. I looked up to.

[Mike Grinelli]

He's the doctase guy.

[F]

Yeah, yeah. It was also like, I feel like going. Going to Erie was obviously pretty. Pretty easy. You know, seeing Connor go through there, it was, you know, a no brainer. I mean, seeing, you know, a stud like him come out of the organization, it was pretty cool to see. So. Yeah. I mean, what about D though?

[Ryan Whitney]

Like. Like D in the NHL?

[F]

Yeah. So obviously McCarr is the guy more, you know, model my game after and take things from his game. And then I think, like, if a role model, like, just in general, like a class act would be like, Crosby. Yeah, like, I think that everyone can say that too. I mean, I think he's just a classy guy. Like, he's, you know, when you meet him, he's just like an amazing guy to be around. An amazing guy to have on your team.

[Ryan Whitney]

Funny enough, when I met him, I said, hey, I'm proud of you, dude. Keep going, keep going. I did. I did that. I did that.

[Dan Carcillo]

Whit can thank him for that house. He's sitting in a Nantucket.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I'm trying to name the house. Thanks, Sid. My wife won't let me. Me.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, I just pulled up some of these quotes. Sha, Daddy. When I drive a car off the lot, it its price increases in value. Shafe, Daddy. Once a rattlesnake bit me. After five days of excruciating pain, the snake finally died.

[F]

What do these the Chuck Norris?

[Mike Grinelli]

Daddy? My feet don't get blisters, but my shoes do.

[Ryan Whitney]

Went to a. Went to a cold P concert. Shaved. Daddy was singing.

[Mike Grinelli]

I could speak Russian in French. I could French kiss a Russian girl off Dave. Daddy. I never say something tastes like chicken. Not even chicken. Oh, that one's kind of. That one sucked.

[Ryan Whitney]

He hadn't read that one first. That was Sugar Ray. Sugar Ray, Yeah.

[Mike Grinelli]

Shave daddy. Superman has pajamas with my logo. So does Connor, apparently. Oh, the list goes on. But this kid. Yeah. Any other hockey questions, boys?

[Ryan Whitney]

What about.

[Mike Grinelli]

What about the skill stuff? Like all these kids, you see them on the ice, they got the fucking pylons, like the. The triangle. They're going down their. Their heads up. It's all this crazy on the ice. Obviously I was never doing it. Are you doing all that stuff on the Ice in the summertime.

[F]

Not really as much. Like I think like I was, I was actually talking to someone about this. So Geo is like all brains. Like he has all things like mentally behind like what he's teach where you know, if, if you're doing skills and you're stick handling through cones and I mean I don't really think you need to know that's not more game situations where you know, Geo's teaching game situations. Like what do you need to do? Like you know McDavid's coming down on you, they're looking at your feet and like once your feet, once you cross over like you're done. Because he'd be in your wired with the speed. So like there's a lot of things that he like teaches me to like, you know that's more game situations where a lot of people love the skills. I mean everyone loves a good skills session where you're just ripping.

[Mike Grinelli]

I don't.

[F]

Right. Yeah, well that's given. I mean I think everyone knows they.

[Dan Carcillo]

Didn'T let him on the ice for the skill session.

[F]

Yeah, yeah, he took them all.

[Ryan Whitney]

He goes in bench presses while we're working on that.

[F]

Yeah, he's using all his anger because the coach is like, it's not messing up the phones. He's trying to see the handle for them and stuff this.

[Dan Carcillo]

I love him.

[Mike Grinelli]

I love him. I love him. Well that, that's good though the situational stuff. So like, like, like so what? Like he'll dumping pucks in and then you gotta go retreat. That was one thing Gio was unreal at. He was a one man breakout when he played with the Owen sound attack. Yeah, I was blown away by you know, you put it in his corner, you think you got him dead to rights.

[F]

Yeah.

[Mike Grinelli]

Escape movies wheeling around the net and boom.

[F]

That's honestly a big thing he does like the retrievals he loves and like I think there's a lot of things that you do like where like he's dumping them in and then like you know you're doing fakes like you're doing a lot of things where like honestly in games that's what you're going to need to do. And for me like the biggest thing for me that he was saying is like of course it's like a lot faster game but you have more time when you're going to pick up a puck and you got to trust your skating where you know like guys are coming down like it's more set like guys are in the right positions a lot more of course, in the NHL, it's the best league in the world. Right. So it helps when guys are in the right spots, like forwards, you know, like, they're just all in the right spots. It makes your job a little bit easier.

[Dan Carcillo]

What would be a dream D partner? Like, I always love playing with a stay at home demon. A guy that was gonna just. Yeah, stay. Stay on the bench. Stay on the bench.

[Ryan Whitney]

Sock.

[F]

He gave you a sock?

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, you just get to blame you.

[Mike Grinelli]

Oh, my God.

[F]

Yeah, I'd be like, biz, what are you doing? Let's go.

[Mike Grinelli]

You might get a Netflix special offer. Yeah, I'll go back to your question.

[Dan Carcillo]

Sorry. No, I just wonder what kind of. What kind of player he likes to play with or. It doesn't even matter because I know you're a two way guy. You can do it all.

[F]

Yeah. Honestly, I mean, I think, like, there's both. Like, it's nice to have. Well, if there's another offensive guy, you guys can both work offensively and, like, you could go either way. I mean, if you got someone. Like, honestly, I'm. I'm super easy going. Like, if I had to choose, I mean, like, Mark Carter would be pretty nuts to play with, like, you and him cooking up some ozone time. But yeah, I'm. I'm super easy going. And I. I, like, I would play with biz. I wouldn't mind biz, honestly.

[Mike Grinelli]

I'll stay at home for you, buddy.

[Dan Carcillo]

Hey, I could set up a party after this.

[F]

I remember seeing the video of you at the top prospects game with your curly hair and there's dude coming up on you, like.

[Mike Grinelli]

Oh, yeah. You know I fought in that game, right?

[F]

Yeah.

[Mike Grinelli]

Double Dion.

[F]

That was. It was that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. And you actually did pretty good.

[Mike Grinelli]

I was MVP of the game. I had a goal on Mark. Andre Fleury. I had a couple nice plays. Corey Perry almost took my wrist off at the end of the game with a slash. I think he'd seen enough of me trying to rush the puck. Yeah. Mind you, he was on my own team. I was gonna. I was gonna ask. He's like, hand that thing over. Regardless. Couple quick one offs. If you had to pick like one pump up tune in the locker room before you go out of the tunnel. Which tune are you picking right now to get the boys fired up in the locker?

[F]

This is a telephone case. So I'm a big house music guy, like remixes and all that, so I love that stuff.

[Ryan Whitney]

Big booty mix.

[F]

Oh, yeah. 100.

[Mike Grinelli]

100.

[F]

So there's like. Like, that's a tough one, biz, but, I mean, did you guys listen to Frank Walker?

[Ryan Whitney]

I. I might know a song based on if I heard it, but no.

[F]

Come on, what are we listening to right now? No, Frank Walker.

[Mike Grinelli]

I listen.

[Ryan Whitney]

You're going to Coldplay tonight, bro. So, I mean, like.

[F]

So you listen to Viva La Vida when you come out of the room? I don't think I listen to me.

[Ryan Whitney]

No. Hey, wait till you hear Fix. You getting ready for your first game against the Canadiens, buddy?

[Dan Carcillo]

Yeah, true.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right, let's see. Frank Walker. I mean, I'm seeing. I Go dancing. Missing you.

[F]

Oh, I Go dancing's a good one. Come on. I go dancing.

[Dan Carcillo]

Hey, isn't that Big Booty Mix, the one that we got a shout out in?

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, we got.

[F]

Yeah, he's gonna show it.

[Mike Grinelli]

Well, G puts us on all the new school stuff and he was saying that all the boys in the locker room, they just like, they don't even need to mix up their own tunes or put a playlist together because they.

[F]

Can throw on the big Booty Mix and it's gone. It's gone for like an hour. Like, it's like an hour and a bit. But, like, honestly, like house music, I'm pretty easy going. Like, do you guys know James Hype?

[Mike Grinelli]

No.

[Ryan Whitney]

I Go Dancing's legit. I was just hitting it. Yeah, it's money. I'm gonna work once again.

[F]

Once you get to the beat drop, it's pretty.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yes, that's what I just heard. I fast forward.

[F]

I was making sure. I mean, at the start it's pretty slow.

[Mike Grinelli]

So Matt Murley, who invented the band acd, see, he.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, he invented house music.

[Mike Grinelli]

Oh, he did that. Okay. No, that too. Yeah. He's dead. Mouse's dead. Mouse's manager, he says Thunderstruck is the all time come out tune. Which I'd probably have to agree with him on that one. My next one off question was, do the islanders need to bring back the Fisherman jerseys?

[F]

Yeah, I mean, honestly. Yeah, I wouldn't mind those. Like, jerseys or jerseys. I mean, I think it's always nice to have that extra jersey that's pretty, like, nice. The fans definitely love them too. I think the fans love them. I actually, when we were at camp, I saw a bunch of. There's a flag, I think, with the logo on it. There's a couple jerseys. So they're like. Because obviously everyone has the new jerseys that, you know, they wear now. But it's nice to see the old ones come back a Bit.

[Mike Grinelli]

Okay.

[Ryan Whitney]

I just wanted to say it's great chatting with you. And I know there's. There's. There was a lot of discussion of, you know, the passing of your mom and what the. The draft meant with the ribbon for her and her initials and. And kind of wanted to keep it loose. But I'll say, like, you know, good for you. The adversity that you've gone through and that. The way you've come out on the other side. I'm proud of you. How about that? Yeah.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

And it's amazing to see, though, like, there was, like I said, the resiliency and your family, your dad, your brother, it's. It's a really cool story. So, dude, I can't wait to watch you play.

[F]

Yeah. Thanks, boys. I appreciate, you know, having me. Maybe not as much being on here with Biz. A little annoying sometimes, but Biz can.

[Ryan Whitney]

Caddy for us when we all play golf together.

[F]

I love that. Be a good caddy. You can just, like. We'll take the carts. He just carries the bag to him and he. The carts on the thing. We'll just give it to Biz so you can carry.

[Mike Grinelli]

I'm bullied. I have to call the league office right now. But you did mention one thing about when you were playing ball hockey or roller hockey in your driveway, that your mother would be a net. Like, so obviously you had a very special connection and bond with her, and I'm really sorry for your loss, man. But, like, with said, like, you've. You've handled the. The adversity tremendously. And. And just like. Like, you're. You're a legend, bro. You're a legend.

[F]

It obviously helps, too. Like, when. When you guys were saying, you know, do you get, like, you have pressure and things and you get stressed out? I.

[Mike Grinelli]

When.

[F]

Well, and I think a lot of people can speak on this, you know, seeing a loved one go through cancer and cancer sucks, and, you know, to see a loved one go through that, you become a lot stronger and, you know, you're happy. I'm happy that my mom's not suffering anymore, because this year go through that, it's, you know, not fun at all. And, you know, I mean, she's still the happiest person in the family, making jokes and everything, doing everything for us. But this year go through something so scary. I mean, you'd rather just be, you know, happy, you know, up there and not suffering where, you know, she's always with me in spirit, which helps.

[Ryan Whitney]

So what's a hockey game? What's the hockey pressure after what we've been through.

[F]

Exactly. It's like, you know, guys get mad over making a mistake or, you know, like losing a game. And obviously, I mean, you don't want to do that stuff, but there's a lot worse things that can happen. You just gotta builds from it, right?

[Mike Grinelli]

So you're a legend, dude, obviously an.

[Dan Carcillo]

Amazing player, but I think your best quality is your happiness. And obviously you got that from your mom and you know, keep bringing that. Let you talk about, you know, all these guys you were teammates with and being proud of them and all that stuff. So it's, it's, it's amazing. I'm rooting for you. I might even watch a couple Islanders games this year because we're not the biggest Islanders fan on this.

[F]

You gotta be watching some Islander fan.

[Mike Grinelli]

Or I might jump on your team. You're gonna be my third team.

[F]

I think this year you have to. Yeah, no first team, but he ain't.

[Mike Grinelli]

If you got to get Delta, the Leafs, if that's happening, but nobody. We appreciate your time. This has been unbelievable. And, and yeah, like Ian said, I'll be watching Islanders games for the first time in a long time.

[F]

Yeah, perfect. I mean, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. I've always, I mean I've always wanted to come on this. Everyone was like, oh, when you go on the spin Chicklets and all that, right? So then I was like, I'll go soon. I mean the more time I can get away from biz, the better.

[Ryan Whitney]

But actually I do. I forgot something. I forgot an ad. It's the, it's the rollback. Last question. Use code chiclets on roback.com for generous 20 off your first purchase at the end of the week. That's C-I C L-E-T-S on R-H-O-B-A-K.com 20 off. All polo shorts, swim trunks and more with code Chicklets. I, I, I don't really have much left. But what about throwing out a name of a draft pick this year that maybe people don't know a lot about that you do that you could see big things from in the future. Doesn't even have to be a first rounder like somebody you know. This kid sneaky nice.

[F]

I gotta say, Jack, I vic, he went to Nashville. He's so I got the shoot on him. I got to play with them at the world juniors and a lot of Team Canada tournaments and we've won a lot of tournaments together and you know, to Have a, you know, guy at the, you know, back your team, you know, keeping you in games and, and we played a team Ontario tournament. It was double overtime and he, I remember me and him were like in goalies and defense, have a little bit of chemistry. And, you know, he would like be sending me pucks in OT and he'd be like making some big time stops and, you know, you need a goalie, you know, that to save you on some, you know, bacon that you kind of leave out. And you know, if I send a pizza up the middle, I mean, I, I have a lot of hope that he's going to save it, which helps. So.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right, 58th pick. 58th pick. And actually just 5 11. So undersized for a goalie. But like Saros, I like it, I like it.

[F]

It doesn't matter. He's a stud.

[Mike Grinelli]

I feel like, like all these teams just wanted to draft for size. I mean, it kind of went from like the forwards to the D. Then obviously goalies were being 6, 4, 6, 5. But you see, with like Dustin Wolf SE and some of these smaller guys, I feel like there might be a trend going back to, hey, just find the guy who can stop the puck. Yeah, yeah, my last one. I actually have one more. You're obviously gonna get a big signing bonus. What is the one thing that you're gonna splurge on like you want to buy a nice vehicle? Why are you smiling like that?

[F]

I was gonna say something about you, Biz, but I'm not.

[Mike Grinelli]

Saying it's a predictable. A predictable question.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's probably gonna say, are you gonna ask me for a loan or something?

[Mike Grinelli]

Like, if it's 6%, I'll take it on my nose.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hard money lender. Oh, a nose job. He's gonna buy you a nose job.

[Dan Carcillo]

This guy is incredible.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey, Biz, you know what's funny?

[F]

I'm joking. Business.

[Ryan Whitney]

What's funny is he reminds me a lot of you when you were this age.

[Mike Grinelli]

Exactly.

[Ryan Whitney]

I think you guys have. Have a big time connection here.

[Mike Grinelli]

Bismuth, you'll be playing fourth line, left wing in no time, bro. You're gonna have a snout like me. You better save that signing bonus, you little brat.

[F]

Biz, we were.

[Mike Grinelli]

We were.

[F]

Best friends in the making, eh?

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, we were. Me and.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey, be careful.

[Dan Carcillo]

He'll move into your house, dude. He's got no shame.

[F]

Hey, I honestly wouldn't mind that as much as I'm chirping. Biz. Biz, you're the man.

[Mike Grinelli]

Hey, we gotta get like the, the show HL guys are gonna start representing again. Too many of these American kids. You'll be playing for Team Canada in no time, buddy. Let's go, baby. I'm getting. We gotta stick together because these idiots.

[Ryan Whitney]

Penn State would have given this kid 400 grand, dude.

[F]

For college, everything, boys. A business. Money's not everything.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, he'll do a ad read for. For anything.

[Mike Grinelli]

I was doing. I was doing dick pill commercials last summer for Felix Ca.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right, Shafe Daddy.

[Dan Carcillo]

You're a legend, dude.

[Mike Grinelli]

Thanks for coming on.

[Ryan Whitney]

Thank you so much to Shafe Daddy. I will never call him Matthew Schaefer again. He's the Shave Daddy. I imagine he's going to be a nasty player based on how good he is at interviewing. Some people may say, why do you think that those two things go hand in hand. But I can just tell sometimes we've been doing this for a while. When you're that good with the mic at 17, you got to be that good at hockey, or else you wouldn't be confident enough to be that good with the mic. So shout out to Shave Daddy. What he's been through, what we're going to get to watch him do. Awesome guy. And with that, I do need to mention Body Armor. Look at G. He's holding the chill Body Armor, dude. This episode is presented to you by Body Armor. And I'll tell you, I got it right now in a big old, what's it called, Shaker thing. I don't have the bottle on me, but G does. And this summer, everyone can cool off with the Body Armor Chill, a bold new way to hydrate with no artificial dyes, flavors or sweeteners. Enjoy a new, refreshing, cooling sensation in three impossibly cold flavors. Frozen berry, frozen cherry, frozen orange. G goes with the frozen berry, constantly available for a limited time. Grab yours at 711 or store near you. And this episode is brought to you by Body Armor. So shout out Body Armor. And we gotta shout out some. Some real kind of pathetic free agency teams, right? Some. Some. Some moves that probably fan bases are sitting around saying, what the hell is going on? Gee, you could stay on here for a minute because we could talk about the Boston Bruins for a second. We should have brought Big Dan back. He had a winter coat, though it's 90 degrees.

[Mike Grinelli]

No, he didn't play for the Bruins, so he can't talk about them like that.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, you could talk about them, but you can't light candles and cry when they lose. I think that's the difference. You can talk about the Leafs, but To really live and die with everything and call yourself an ambassador. I don't think he would call himself an ambassador for the Bruins. Or maybe he wouldn't be welcome to either. But the Bruins g. They, they. They gave some term out that was just outlandish. I know Tanner Jana, I think he got five years right.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Five years correct at 3.8.

[Ryan Whitney]

Now, am I missing something that, like, dude tough as nails would. Would want him on my team? Like, it's nothing against the player. The 3.8 is almost crazier than the 5. Is that like, just to get up the cap number? I don't.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Well, I'm not as worried about the 3.8. I'm more worried about the, the term. I just think, why, why give a guy that, you know, hasn't proved himself outside of his rookie season five years? It's just, especially when, like, you had that guy in Jeremy Brazo, you had that guy in Trent Frederick. I just don't understand, like, why you went out and, and made this move. I think a majority of what they've done is frustrating, and I think it all kind of goes back to that end of year press conference they had. I don't know if you guys remember that, but it got pretty nasty between like, Cam Neely, Don Sweeney, and the reporters in the media. The media.

[Ryan Whitney]

It always does.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It always does. But, but the media was. This was a little bit more than usual, and the media was pressing them pretty hard on what's the direction of this team. And I remember particularly Don Sweeney is kind of saying, like, hey, like, we're. We're about to do a rebuild almost in like, layman's terms. And Cam Neely jumps in and says, I just want to be clear here. We are going to compete for a Stanley cup next season.

[Ryan Whitney]

What?

[Paul Bissonnette]

Look at this roster. This is one of the worst rosters in the NHL. They're pissing on us and they're telling us it's raining. They're telling us.

[Ryan Whitney]

Would you rather hear them say, you know what?

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, we're.

[Ryan Whitney]

We're in a little bit of a, of a rebuilding phase. And, and, and you never know, like, Gavin McKenna's coming get us in that lottery 100%. Maybe they're actually thinking that, but they don't want to say it.

[Paul Bissonnette]

But it's like the anger with which they, like, replied to the reporters and they're like, oh, well, this is. This is an original six franchise in the, in one of the best cities in the NHL. Who wouldn't want to come coach here? Well, I don't know, Don. Like, I think three or four coaches probably didn't want to come coach there this off season. So I think the fact that like the, the vitriol in their voice. But I, I would have taken what James, this is crazy to say that I would have taken what James Dolan did a few years ago when he sent a letter out to the fan basically saying like, hey, times are going to get tough here. Like we're, we're planning for the future. We have a plan in place here. But to sit there and say we're going for the Stanley cup next year and to give us Victor Arvidsson and Tanner Journeau on a five year deal. Like I said, they're pissing on us and they're telling us it's raining, it's a, it's a joke.

[Mike Grinelli]

But not being able to, to get anything for taking Arvidson too, which you knew Edmonton was a bit, in a bit of a jam and that things didn't necessarily, I don't want to say they ended poorly there, but he was a healthy scratch by the end of it. I don't think the fit, which is as natural. And yeah, I, I, I actually don't mind Arvidson. I feel like he's a little honey badger in some cases. He's got one year left on that deal. Right. So that's not like you have him long term. I was, I was just shocked by the, they didn't want to give Frederick term, they didn't want to give him eight years at, at the 4 million, whatever he was asking for. So then they move on from him knowing and already comfortable with him and then essentially just give him the same deal but three less years. So I also don't know if Jano has consistent offensive upside like Trent Frederick does. So to, to, to lose one and then resign Geno, I think Jano's like at best a a third line player and maybe not even consistently. I think he's a, a, a mixed, a mix between a third and fourth.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Line player and they signed so many third and fourth line guys and you still have Fabian Lycelle, former first round pick. You still have Matthew Potter who they, they're not playing bottom six minutes. That's not the style of game they play. They're top six minutes guys. So when you're filling the roster with guys like Victor Arvidson and Tanner Jano, it's, it's frustrating to no end. But I will say this. I'll, I'll leave it with this this, this is a good thing for the Bruins. Like, like in. In a sense. Like they shouldn't have went for it this year. They're. They're awful. They don't have the roster to win a Stanley Cup. They're so far away. So you know what? Build for the future. If you get Gavin McKenna. God forbid. If you get Gavin McKenna. If that happens.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, not God forbid. Not God forbid.

[Mike Grinelli]

Well, he means instead of losing and being that bad all year.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'll tell. I'll say this right now. That and it Right now, guarantee if they are in the bottom five, they're winning the lottery. Yeah, that is. That is the most. No brainer original six franchise. Get them going again.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Jeremy J.

[Ryan Whitney]

That is a. If they are in the bottom five, they will win the lottery.

[Dan Carcillo]

We're okay with that, though.

[Mike Grinelli]

We're okay with the Edmonton guy. That's rich.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, hey, hey, hey, buddy. If you think that I'm gonna sit here and deny the fact that they set up McDavid going to Edmonton, you're crazy. You're crazy. I mean, I. And I and like Keith just said, I think it's smart if the league has generational players and the year it comes, there's five teams and there's always one that's like an enormous market. Give them that player. People may hate hearing that, but dude, you want Gavin McKenna playing in. Well, I mean, Chicago could be awful again. San Jose won't get it. It. But like, Boston is a place that you'd want what could.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Every playoffs they have the highest TV rating, so it makes sense.

[Dan Carcillo]

So, gee, what do you, what do you think? Like a guy like Pasta is thinking, like during this, like his whole career there, it's like, all right, we're trying to win. We're, you know, signing guys, a free agency, we're making trades at the deadline. Like, you think he's the type of guy that could be like, hey, see you boys.

[Paul Bissonnette]

100, 100. And that's my biggest worry. And that's why I was so pleased with the Morgan Geeky deal, because I know Dave Posnock loves playing with Morgan Geeky. So, like, the fact that they locked him in and they gave him his guy, that. That's huge. But at the same time, every move they should, they make from here on out. You got to go talk to David Boster. Like, you gotta. I'm not talking like the little tiny moves, but like, you gotta get approval from this guy. Like, all that matters is keeping David Poster happy. So at the end of this season, when they finish second to last place in the league.

[Ryan Whitney]

League.

[Paul Bissonnette]

He doesn't walk into Don Sweeney's office and say, I'm requesting a trade.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, buddy.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Because they've done some of his friends pretty fucking dirty over the pasta.

[Ryan Whitney]

Makes 11, 2, 5. That's like. That is unbelievable when you see some contracts out there, get a hundred points.

[Dan Carcillo]

Last year playing playing with the Providence Bruins.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Mike Grinelli]

I'll tell you what, he'd look unbelievable on a Leafs jersey.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Blue and white, baby. I mean, God damn. 1125 for pasta. They're going out and just doing nothing. But I mean, fuck, dude, they probably do need to get pretty bad before they're good. Like. Like. And that means almost like maybe moving McAvoy imposter knock for just an absolute haul and being like it's a complete redo.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It depends on what I mean, there's a huge free agent class next summer, too. They're gonna have a ton of money. So I think. Think you get Gavin McDonald.

[Mike Grinelli]

They always say that, though. And then by the time it actually comes, there's nobody left.

[F]

True.

[Ryan Whitney]

Except McDavid and Eichel.

[Mike Grinelli]

Well, G. Sorry to hear about your team. I. I think that they're going to be top 10 worst teams in the league that next year. Guaranteed, if not top five, like Whit mentioned. And yeah, it's going to be a while until you guys hoist Lord Stanley again.

[Ryan Whitney]

Things are switching in this league, guys. Things are switching around quick. We're going to have some teams buzzing now. A team who has lost to the Oilers four years in a row in the first round, the LA Kings. I saw a furious Fan base after July 1st with the LA Kings. Now I like Corey. Pray Corey Perry. Dude, like, what this guy's done, I mean, it's. It's incredible. He's his. That his age. He's still playing. He was playing like with McDavid at times, though, and Leon. Right. Like, I don't know what. What he's going to have there, but. But I'm not even mad about that one. But like, the rest of them, you look, it was Cody Cece got four times four and a half, which Cody Cece. Like, people. I mean, dude, the guy's, you know, he's not a top four defenseman, but people make him sound way worse than he is. I really think that. But four times four and a half, when you're kind of looking to make a big step after losing in the first round four years in row, they don't love that. Dumoulin three times four. Joel Armia, two times two and a half. And then Anton Forsberg, the goalie, two times two and a half dot.

[Mike Grinelli]

So I just don't get the. I don't, Yeah, I don't get the number. Was somebody else offering Cody Cece more than four and a half million? I know he's extremely well liked by his teammates. Dry, Seidel and McDavid love them. They were, you know, they were upset to see him go. So creating a culture and having a guy like that is important, but as you said, I think on a Stanley cup winning team, he's, he's a bottom pair of defenseman and you can't be paying. You should be paying bottom pair defenseman the same amount that the Florida Panthers are. They signed Nate Schmidt to under a million. They sign all over. Ekman Larson to whatever it was one and change or just under. Like, we're talking about an astronomical number for a guy who's a bottom pair guy. Like, I don't understand. I, I don't get it. I don't get it. Ken Holland.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I know. I, I don't know. That's, that's where, like when, when people like scream that their team doesn't do, Do a ton at free agency. Like, sometimes it's better to not do something. Like, you're not, you're not overpaying guys, you're not signing guys to deals where it's like, oh, like we kind of jumped the gun. It's like, all right, we have cap space. We can figure this out as the season goes. Like, kind of my thought. With Edmonton, obviously everything is dependent on McDavid, but it sometimes is like the best move you make is the move you don't make. I, I might have just butchered that, you guys know what I'm saying?

[Mike Grinelli]

Holland's obsessed with the. I think what is. I think army calls them the Redwoods. Like the big, the big tall demon. So with Edmondson, Anderson and then those two guys, like, you have a huge back end, but I don't know, man. Yans, what do you think?

[Dan Carcillo]

No, I was just thinking, do you think the GMs are giving out these. You know, especially a term like you said, with cece getting the term and like, just because they see where the cap's going and it's like, oh, shit, we're gonna have to get up to this. Like, you know, these guys are at least proven players in the league. They can help us win some games or it. And then also too, I want to ask you what, like Edmonton did Edmonton offer Corey Perry. Cause like he seemed like such a good fit there.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I think I, I, I don't think they met what he wanted. I mean that's kind of like the, the he got, he got one year times two million. Like it wouldn't give him two million. I mean they obviously decided like with like Brown and like they decided that they weren't going to pay certain guys, but I would have given Perry 2 million.

[Mike Grinelli]

I mean once again with the Oilers it's all about the turnover. They're not bringing back Perry, they're not bringing back Connor Brown.

[Ryan Whitney]

Not to mention the turnover bits like, like they brought in Skinner and Arvidson. Arvidson was a healthy scratch in the finals and then gets traded and Skinner is a free agent who hasn't signed anywhere. So it's like what the fuck. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

[Mike Grinelli]

We're just venting. Any other big losers?

[Ryan Whitney]

We are venting. Yeah. The la, that was a tough day for them. That was a tough day for them. I really do think that I was kind of like, geez, I don't know man. Like I don't know. No, no other losers. Like really stuck. Not many. I mean I was, I was waiting for some big trades. Like where are the trades? What's going on with the trade?

[Dan Carcillo]

I think all the teams trade during the season because then you're only getting a portion of the, the cap hit. Like you're only paying whatever, 30 of it for the end of the year from then on and then you can kind of do this, the cap circumcision that way. But it's, yeah, no, the trades, especially during, during the summertime seemed like they've, that they're a lost art.

[Ryan Whitney]

You know what, you know who, I'm not going to say they're giant like losers because I think they have a good team and I think that they're going to, they're going to be good this year. But the Wild, I, I don't know. Like it was kind of the first year without the shackles of all that payment to Parisian Suter and, and Right. I think they probably wanted Brock Nelson, he's resigned in Colorado, probably wanted Besser, he resigns at Vancouver. So they get Tarasenko on a one year deal. But I think their fans were maybe thinking a little more would go down. But like I said like Billy G is like, all right, like we're not going to overpay certain guys, but I bet you they wanted Nelson and Nelson.

[Mike Grinelli]

I was surprised by the by besser back in Vancouver like he had a pretty good deal on the table, but it was obvious that he won a term. He ends up getting the seven years at just under 8 million where the original offer that we heard was five times eight and a half. So just clearly wanted more security and knowing where he's going to be. Maybe I don't know if he's married or starting a family, but surprised to see that one. But what was the other one we were just talking about quickly? Oh, Minnesota. I just think that they're probably first order of operation is seeing what happens with Caprisoft and if he for whatever reason doesn't come back. You have an astral on you. What. What do you have in cap space? You got the 14 million that just came off the books and then another. Or was it make nine and a half on top of that and then whoever else is coming off the book. So Minnesota, it's. It'll be interesting to see what direction they head in over the course of the next 18 months.

[Dan Carcillo]

If he's not signing, they can trade away for him and get a, get a haul.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's. They're. They're just as deaded as Edmonton is if McDavid leaves, if Caprisov ever left. And I mean the. Oh, how many times do you ever remember an owner coming out and being like we will give him anything he wants. I, I think that was the quote.

[Mike Grinelli]

You just handed over all the leverage, sir.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'm wondering maybe he. Would he wait. Would he want to wait till McDavid signs to see his number or would he?

[Mike Grinelli]

No, I think that it does it. There's so many teams in desperate need of a guy like that that if each of those guys wanted the full 20%, they can get it. I think that. I think that Philadelphia would pay 20%, the caprice off in a heartbeat.

[Dan Carcillo]

I think he's a perfect fit in the New York Rangers.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, no, Keith, you know where he's a perfect fit? Toronto blue and white. Oh yeah.

[Mike Grinelli]

I didn't even say that. That's you saying that he would fit.

[Ryan Whitney]

In perfectly into her.

[Mike Grinelli]

I thought with Flyers just because of the Mechkov. Like imagine having those two lethal Russians playing together. But you just mentioned New York. I mean Panarin and him. Panarin's probably got what, three years left on his deal?

[Dan Carcillo]

No, I think he's up next summer. I think he's part of that class next summer.

[Mike Grinelli]

What?

[Dan Carcillo]

Yeah.

[Mike Grinelli]

That was already eight years.

[Ryan Whitney]

How easy is that? I know. I saw the Panera. I was like Panarin's already up. I know. Holy. I know. You know what's interesting move? So like the Bowen Byram kind of saga, right? Like, is he gonna get traded?

[Mike Grinelli]

He's gonna be like John Gibson. Five years from now we're gonna be talking about him getting traded at a Buffalo.

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, they. The Sabers elected for salary arbitration, right, With Bowen, Byram and Utah did it with Jack McBain. Now what that does is that doesn't allow them to get offer sheeted, right? So you're basically protecting yourself from another team going out and signing them. But now you got to deal with arbitration and you got to deal with whatever the arbitrator gives them on a one or a two year old deal. I don't know how it's decided if it's a one year deal or a two year deal, but I think they flip a coin.

[Mike Grinelli]

No, I'm serious.

[Dan Carcillo]

Rock, paper scissors.

[Mike Grinelli]

Or rock paper, scissors. You're right. Yeah. Change the new cba.

[Ryan Whitney]

But wait, if you don't want like.

[Dan Carcillo]

Like clearly, I mean, obviously they want him, but like, if they don't want him enough to sign him enough, wouldn't you want him to get offer sheeted, then you can at least get some draft picks or something.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's, that's, that's a point people have made. But I think Buffalo's like, we don't need any more draft picks. Like, we need players. So maybe they could end up dealing them. I mean, you can also sign before the arbitration hearing, but Jesus Christ, the arbitrary. That's a nightmare. My arbitration hearing would have been. I would have left there crying. Like asking strangers for hugs would have.

[Mike Grinelli]

Been like the Schaefer interview.

[Ryan Whitney]

Just leaving, crying, getting dummied by a 17 year old. Oh my God. Kaner stayed in Detroit, boys. Kaner was actually at the barstool office today. I think he was on with the Barstool Chicago show. Big cat texted me, said it was amazing. Said they were going down memory lane on those three cups and all the legendary moments. But he signs a Detroit three million dollar cap hit. I think he can get another like four million in potential bonuses. So, Katie, what?

[Dan Carcillo]

40 million?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, dude, I'd give him that. I love that guy. The Canadians acquired Zach Bul. Duke. The Canadiens actually have been buzzing. The Canadiens have had.

[Mike Grinelli]

That's what we missed as a big winner.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's when we missed. And that's my bad. I forgot it was further down in the outline. But this Bull Duke, dude, he's a player, man. He is nice. He's big. Strong Montreal's building something there. They traded Logan Mayu, who spent most of the year in the minors. I think he's had points when he's played a couple NHL games, but nice puck moving defenseman. I think army knows what he's doing there, but I think that could be a big win. Win for both teams.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, I think that, that, that St. Louis has an abundance of young forwards, so that was maybe why they moved off. I was surprised, but they do have an older decor and you know, this Logan May, you, You know, the stuff in the past is the stuff in the past, but they obviously see a lot of offensive upside and defensemen who can lug the puck and possess those offensive skills are far and few between. I mean, you saw what Dobson ended up getting with, with Montreal in that signing trade. Nine and a half. So there's a lot of value there. And considering they have so many forwards, you might as well, you know, shoot for the fences for, for a young up and coming defenseman. But I like that bull Duke. I liked him in playoffs. He brought that spark brought all season long. And yeah, he's a, he's a, he's a good young forward.

[Ryan Whitney]

19 goals as a 22 year old. It's like, all right, that's.

[Mike Grinelli]

I just, I just like how Montreal is pushing the chips in the middle, saying, we have this kind of. We have this young core group who is hitting pretty much on average age, like middle 20s. So they're able to the next few years grow together as they get to their primes. And who knows, maybe this turnaround happens a lot sooner than expected. But yeah, it, it was definitely a building year for them getting to the playoffs, getting that experience and dipping their toes in. And it should be fun to see what St. Louis can do with this young crew.

[Ryan Whitney]

I think that them seeing Demidov is like, all right, we can start this even a little earlier. I think next year I think he's going to be dominant. I think he's going to be a superstar. Capri soft like. And they're like, holy shit, we now have like a true franchise like superstar on our hands and let's get some more forward help. And yeah, Mayu, like they have Hudson, they just get Dobson kind of makes sense, right? Like puck mover that they don't know necessarily need. So interesting on that. Oh.

[Paul Bissonnette]

All right, guys. Well, we have some breaking news here. This is from Jordan Smaltz. It sounds like Gavin McKenna will be signing with Penn State sometime this week, maybe even as early as today. He was Added to the team group chat last night. Big news in the college hockey season.

[Mike Grinelli]

Wow.

[Ryan Whitney]

First of all, who called this? Keith. You said this months ago to me.

[Mike Grinelli]

I thought he was coming to Davenport. That's where I thought he was coming. That's where I was.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, you got Schaefer, though.

[Mike Grinelli]

Okay. That's right. Yeah. He's.

[Dan Carcillo]

Guys, Schaefer's next. If he doesn't make the team, he's going to Penn State.

[Mike Grinelli]

Why did, how did you know this months ago?

[Dan Carcillo]

So, friend of mine, he's a big time donor at Penn State, and I was, I was with him and, you know, just talking about hockey and what guys he needs to get and, and that rule changed that. The call. The CHL players can go there. I just gave him a list of names that were no big dog name. Mostly from G. Cause I don't know.

[Mike Grinelli]

Fuck out of here. He asked you to put a list together?

[Dan Carcillo]

G, didn't I tell you this?

[Paul Bissonnette]

I swear. Yeah, Keith texted me, like, months and months ago, being like, who were the big dogs? I got this big dog at Penn State. It sounded like you, you guys had some drinks, too. It sounded like you guys had some drinks and you guys were getting after it.

[Dan Carcillo]

Oh, it was, it was when I was at Augusta.

[Mike Grinelli]

So what does he donate? Like, what, what, what type of number?

[Dan Carcillo]

He has buildings named after him?

[Ryan Whitney]

Let's just say that I, I, I, I bet you he, I bet you he got like 500 grand. Like, or more like, I don't know. Dude, this. That Big Ten money and that school with their football program and that kid.

[Mike Grinelli]

I bet you he got bank the Jesus Shuttlesworth.

[Ryan Whitney]

Dude, that is so cool. For the college hockey that, like, you have. This is literally if Crosby or McDavid, their draft year had gone to college.

[Paul Bissonnette]

But it's also if they went to, like, the New York Rangers, in a sense. And it's. I know Penn State doesn't have the history, but the alumni network that Penn State has, the marketing dollars that Penn State has, the Big Ten Network. They. They have the ability to get TV deals. There's like 95% of college hockey teams don't have that ability to get on national tv. Penn State can do that.

[Ryan Whitney]

Every one of their games is going to be on next year on the Big Ten. I'm pumped to watch him.

[Mike Grinelli]

So. So, so he's played two years of junior with Medicine Hat or now three.

[Ryan Whitney]

Three years.

[Paul Bissonnette]

He played three.

[Mike Grinelli]

Because he played. He played as an, like a double underager, which is like an exemption rule now. I feel like Obviously, this is huge. And he can do this, like. Oh, I guess because. Yeah, because he hasn't been drafted yet. Right. So he wouldn't have been able to go play anywhere else to develop at a higher level. Right.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, even if he was drafted, he could have though.

[Mike Grinelli]

No, I, I, I think is like, he could have went and played in like the ahl, for instance. But now if, if he had been drafted. But whereas before, you're kind of limited, where now you're kind of stuck at, at that level where, what's he gonna play a fourth year and put up 300 points? It's almost like counterproductive. Where, okay, so now he goes off to college, makes that jump playing against bigger older guys, and gets to make fucking bank. You think there's a chance he made a million bucks?

[Ryan Whitney]

I bet. I, I don't, I don't know about a million. But if it was 7:50, like 700.

[Mike Grinelli]

Like on top of endorsement deals. Like, are you allowed endorsement deals with all that?

[Ryan Whitney]

Nil.

[Dan Carcillo]

Nil.

[Ryan Whitney]

You can get what you can get. Yeah, you can, you can make anything.

[Mike Grinelli]

Now, I don't the school will pay him that million or 500.

[Ryan Whitney]

So it's like, not the school. Right.

[Paul Bissonnette]

G. Schools have collectives, so it's like they can only pay players a certain amount. But this, this money is coming from a donor in like a private fund. Usually they have donor funds and those donor funds help pay for the students.

[Mike Grinelli]

Mama's getting the double wide.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I mean, this kid, it's also too.

[Dan Carcillo]

Like, for his development, like, just from. I've only seen him play one time, but he looks like a slender kid. Like, him going to college, like.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, for his development.

[Dan Carcillo]

He's going to be working out. What do you work out in college with four or five times a week.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah. And you're, yeah, like, it's games on the weekend, right? You're not grind Monday through Monday through Thursday. You're training, you're practicing. That's, that's awesome.

[Paul Bissonnette]

For $100 million facility, too, that Pula Ice Arena. He spent a hundred million dollars. We went to just about all the top facilities in the country. Pegula is top three. And with the way they treat their players. These kids are eating filet mignons for lunch.

[Ryan Whitney]

What? For lunch.

[Mike Grinelli]

Boys, go back. Give me the rollerblades. Give me the fucking Rollerblades.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I've been to a lot of college campuses too, boys, and I'll just say Penn State unequivocally, how much they're giving you girls, they have the most Beautiful girls.

[Mike Grinelli]

You're making what Macheta's making.

[Ryan Whitney]

Wow.

[Mike Grinelli]

Hey, and another thing too. Let's say it was a million dollar tag moving forward. They now become a top recruiting school. Not that they maybe were before. Like, where. Where were they at?

[Ryan Whitney]

They had a big year this year.

[Paul Bissonnette]

But they've never even. I think Aiden think was like that last year was their first NHL draft pick. Like, this is monumental.

[Mike Grinelli]

Okay, wow. All right.

[Paul Bissonnette]

This is now, this is changing the state of Penn State hockey forever.

[Ryan Whitney]

Shocking that, like, if you told me Gavin McKenna was going to college, it's like, oh, he's going to Michigan, you know, like, and he goes to Penn State. And oh, man, now guys are gonna.

[Dan Carcillo]

Follow his steps too. Like, he's not the last guy that's gonna go there. Like, he's the first guy. Right. Like they're gonna get like other kids.

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, remember the D man Stoff was talking about that Veerhoff, was it? What?

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah.

[Dan Carcillo]

Yes.

[Ryan Whitney]

I wonder, like, because he's draft eligible. I wonder if he's going somewhere now.

[Mike Grinelli]

Like, well, tell that kid if he's interested in Davenport, give you my 2018 used Jeep, Jeep Grand Cherokee.

[Dan Carcillo]

That means a lot.

[Mike Grinelli]

Have it both fobs, all of it.

[Ryan Whitney]

How about. Oh, biz, congrats on your new truck.

[Dan Carcillo]

Yeah, that's.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, that's the only reason I brought up my state.

[Dan Carcillo]

Bought it for him.

[Mike Grinelli]

What's it?

[Ryan Whitney]

Gave it to him.

[Mike Grinelli]

It's funny because the whole.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's got a Joe Paterno statue in the back seat. Oh.

[Mike Grinelli]

No. Hey, I was all in on Penn State hockey was filled up with sealed up filet mignon. Airtight, airtight. Sealed.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey. So this basically means if he's doing this, I think moving forward, any CHL kid that's considered like a top three pick going to his draft year is going to be going to college.

[Mike Grinelli]

I'd be shaking in my boots if I was a CHL team right now.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, I know. Well, CHL is going to turn into. Wow.

[Dan Carcillo]

It would just be 17.

[Ryan Whitney]

Change the CHL college hockey.

[Mike Grinelli]

And you know what? This will make probably the CHL start paying their actual players. Like when I played there.

[Ryan Whitney]

They don't have the dough, dude. Oh, yeah, London does. But I mean, a lot of these teams don't have if. Okay. Even if they have dope is like. Like, they could be like, all right, the best player will give 20 grand and then that same kid's talking to Michigan and they're offering them 600.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah. Well, it sounds like the CHL needs donors. Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'm also very interested to see like, are we gonna, like, is this gonna be, you know, the, the Eichel celebrini, Hobie Baker, 75 point freshman year. Like that's what, that's what everyone's gonna be expecting now. I would be surprised if it's not.

[Mike Grinelli]

We should go to the first game.

[Ryan Whitney]

Like BU got Rider Ryder Richie's going there. He's a stud for. I think.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah. White out in Arizona when we had playoffs three years in a row. Not a big deal. East Western Conference finals. Keep the change.

[Ryan Whitney]

This immediately makes Penn State now. Gee, did they lose a lot from the good team last year?

[Paul Bissonnette]

No, they didn't lose anyone. And they added Jackson Smith, just got drafted 14th overall by Columbia.

[Ryan Whitney]

This.

[Paul Bissonnette]

They added coach Kadowski, Makadowski's son.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's. He's.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Coach Kadowski's son, played at army this past year, was an all American, huge defenseman. He's coming to Penn State. They got Jackson Smith. I just mentioned him. Like, they. They're loading up Michael Miza's brother, Luke Miza. He's also going there next season. They're going to be a wagon.

[Dan Carcillo]

They're going to be better than Buffalo Pula's.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey, college hockey. Yeah. Now it's just. It's cr. It's going to be just. Just that much better. It's just going to be CHL to college hockey. That is now the route American kids are getting. But college hockey is now the next step after Junior. They are no longer with this news remotely considered similar.

[Mike Grinelli]

We should.

[Dan Carcillo]

I think USHL is going to take the biggest beating out of all of it.

[Mike Grinelli]

Tell your donor buddy and G, reach out to whoever is paying you your bag from Penn State. Maybe we could broadcast the game.

[Dan Carcillo]

They got the Big Ten network.

[Mike Grinelli]

Oh, okay. You can't just hop in there.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, I don't think we're gonna take over every Penn State game this year.

[Mike Grinelli]

Is. Is there a. Is there a team that doesn't have a network where we could just do a one off?

[Paul Bissonnette]

There's tons of. There's tons of college teams that don't have TV deals. We could easily do something.

[Mike Grinelli]

Okay. I mean, we can still offer it up. We could offer it up to Penn State. Do a one off.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. They're like, what are we getting out of the deal? We're like, gee, you'll talk about how hot the girls are at your school again.

[Mike Grinelli]

I'll talk to Saginaw North Bay and I'll talk to some CHL teams that I was Owen Sound. And I'll say, whenever your recruits leave, you're going to Penn State. Whenever your guys are making that next step, we're going to be a pipeline to them. That's what I'm going to facilitate. In order for us to call one game, we.

[Paul Bissonnette]

We said it earlier this year, but imagine if Pittsburgh and Philly did the outdoor game at Penn State Stadium.

[F]

How.

[Paul Bissonnette]

How much more electric that would be now that Gavin McKenna is on campus. The day or two before you have Penn State play against Michigan State as, like, a lead into the game. That would have been so electric, boys.

[Ryan Whitney]

I. I don't know the exact year, but the Penguins got lemieux, and about 20 years later, they got Crosby. And about 20 years later, they might be the worst team in the league, and they might fucking get Gavin McKenna. I know I had him on Boston earlier in the show, but now you think he's going to be a Penguin.

[Dan Carcillo]

He might stay at Penn State. If he's getting a million a year, he might just stay there forever.

[Mike Grinelli]

That's true. Van Wilder.

[Ryan Whitney]

It was like eight Davenport. I got seven credits from seven Biz.

[Mike Grinelli]

I never.

[Ryan Whitney]

46. No.

[Mike Grinelli]

I took psychology and English.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right.

[Dan Carcillo]

Two things you're really good at.

[Ryan Whitney]

What is a verb is so.

[Mike Grinelli]

I'll never forget. I. I was. When I was in my younger days, when I was talking to a female, I bragged about taking psychology. And I said Sigfried and Roy. And then it's. It's a. Sigmund Freud is the. The actual term. And she's like, the magicians.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, it's not a term. I think it's the guy's name.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah, No, I know. She's like, yeah. They brought up the line when I said Sigmund Freud is the actual term. Right? Sigmund Freud is the psychology term.

[Ryan Whitney]

I think it's his name. I think it was a guy.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yes, yes, yes. And I said, siegfried and Roy. And she goes, the magicians.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, Business. Studying psychology with a tiger.

[Mike Grinelli]

She's like, yeah, I'm leaving.

[Dan Carcillo]

I award you no points. And we are all dumber from listening here.

[Mike Grinelli]

I'm going to put this drink over the top of your head and throw the cup in your face. And you could fuck off with your.

[Ryan Whitney]

Magician talk quickly, before we wrap this thing up, Glenn Gulletson was hired by the Dallas Stars. Crazy fact or part of this story is that when Jim Nil came over, one of his first moves was firing him. And so it's like all of a sudden, he's back kind of crazy, but, you know, good for him. He's been in Edmonton. He's done a really good job there as an assistant, so good luck to him and biz. The other news that I don't know. Do you know Christian Fisher? He retired.

[Mike Grinelli]

Yeah. I haven't had a chance to call him and pick his brain, but he. There was an article that came out, and I just, you know, it's. I think his maybe losses. Love for the game a little bit, and who knows, maybe it's just for a year or two, and then he realizes that he still got some juice left in the tank. And I just think as his career progressed, he was getting more of a limited role, and he was not all of a sudden in that, you know, third, mostly fourth line slot. And it's hard, man, like, when you're not getting your touches and you're in and out of the lineup and you're not feeling it. Like, I. I went through it personally, where I was, like, legit seeing two, three minutes a game, and there were times the ends where I would come in and I'm like, fuck, man, I'm sick of bag skating and not getting to actually play and. And play the game that I fell in love with, so I could see that side of it. I. I thought that he. He had more skill than I did, and he had way more upside than I did. I just personally wish that he would have fought more because I think that I. I think that that would have added to his bag and made him. Make him more desirable, and he's a pretty big, solid guy, so. But hey, man, if it's. It's not in you anymore, it's not in you anymore. You got to go off and be happy and do what you want to do. So I wish him all the best. Great teammate. Loved by the boys. Golfs with them all the time still here. I think he still hangs quite a bit around quite a bit in Scottsdale here. So, yeah, just congrats on a good run, man. I mean, it was. It was still a great run.

[Ryan Whitney]

Congratulations, Christian. Fisher and I. I did love seeing Taves in that Winnipeg jersey. At the press conference, he's sitting there saying, I don't guess I'll play on the fourth line. I don't give a shit. So you talk about a guy who probably lost his love a little bit, and he's got it back, and that was a cool thing to see him in the jets jersey in his hometown. So, hey, thank you to Matthew Schaefer.

[Mike Grinelli]

Boys, we're gonna be off for a little bit, guys. Like even like this pod, you might be like, ah, you didn't know this, you, I don't give a flying. I'm ready to check out.

[Ryan Whitney]

We're burnt out a little bit.

[Mike Grinelli]

We're burnt out. We're burnt out. I'd be going 10 months straight here. We're gonna take I think three pods off. We're gonna go best of next week and then backto back weeks where we're just gonna kind of tee up a few, a few pods that have back to back interviews. We got some great ones banked for you. I'll keep that a secret, but it was a heck of a run. Guys, we love you, we appreciate all your support, but we, we need some rest desperately. I know I do. And I'm ready to check out and go and enjoy and love my life.

[Ryan Whitney]

And guys, ending with a little good news here. Keep September 25th, 26th and 27th open because Boston Chiclets cup, guys. Boston Chiclets Cup.

[Mike Grinelli]

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[Ryan Whitney]

This is a ridiculous amount. You got nothing to say from somebody who's hasn't been able to win his own goddamn damn tournament.

[Mike Grinelli]

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[Mike Grinelli]

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[Ryan Whitney]

It ain't gonna matter cause you're gonna have nothing to say.

[Mike Grinelli]

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