Spittin' Chiclets Episode 590: Featuring Shane Doan, Jon Cooper & Rear Admiral

Summary

Spittin' Chiclets Episode 590: Featuring Shane Doan, Jon Cooper & Rear Admiral (RA)

Release Date: October 24, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Spittin' Chiclets features in-depth interviews with NHL legend Shane Doan and Tampa Bay Lightning head coach Jon Cooper, as well as the much-anticipated return of Rear Admiral (RA) to the regular lineup. The hosts—Ryan Whitney, Paul Bissonnette (Biz), Rear Admiral, and producer Mike Grinnell—ride through classic laughter and locker-room banter, offering candid takes on hockey’s latest, with stories spanning family, career transitions, old-time league memories, player development, and the changing landscape of the NHL and beyond.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Show Updates and Pink Whitney Hype (01:11–07:40)

• The hosts riff on Pink Whitney’s cross-continental popularity, with tales of RV road trips and Canadian liquor border struggles.
• The show moves to a twice-weekly schedule; “RA’s World” is introduced as a new back-half Friday segment centered on the one and only Rear Admiral.

2. Baseball Crossover and Toronto’s Sports Vibe (07:40–09:07)

• The group recaps a memorable Game 7 between the Jays and Mariners, highlighting Toronto’s emergence as a baseball city and how sports passions cycle.

3. Surprise Guest: Shane Doan Interview (09:07–47:44)

Doan on Family, Trades, and Developing NHL Talent

• The Doan Family Transition:
  • Josh Doan’s journey after a shocking trade from Utah to Buffalo, how he adapted, and parental pride.
    • "It was a big shock... but he loves the guys and he's ecstatic.” —Shane Doan (10:22–11:13)
  • Discusses the emotions as a parent versus as a player, and focusing on making your own story.
    • "It's not even close. It's more nerve-wracking watching my kid play." —Shane Doan (13:04)
• Late Bloomers and Player Development:
  • Josh wasn't a dominant youth player—he developed physically and hockey-IQ-wise “the hard way.” This serves as encouragement for parents of non-standout young players.
    • "Who cares if your kid's not the best player at twelve? It's a marathon." —Shane Doan (19:39)
  • Explains the NCAA and USHL’s value in hockey's developmental path compared to CHL years.
• Modern Hockey Decisions:
  • Doan shares support for the evolving landscape of hockey development, highlighting the latitude players now have compared to the “one-path” system in his day.
    • "Now, boys can make decisions without mortgaging their future at 15." —Shane Doan (25:17)
• League Trends & Player Mentions:
  • Doan highlights Detroit as an impressively young team early this year.
  • Inside look at the Kamloops Blazers (Doan is a part-owner—lineup includes stars like Iginla, Recchi, and Sidor) and how some players blossom unexpectedly.
• Front Office vs. Playing:
  • Greater emotional swings and “helplessness” as a manager versus the control as a player.
    • “I have yet to make a mistake from 150 feet up in the air.” —Shane Doan (33:16)
  • Contrasts playing in a Canadian market (Toronto) with Phoenix, noting huge external pressure and coverage as a Leaf.
• Jersey Sponsorship (Player Ads) Debate:
  • The group proposes player-specific sponsors on jerseys to counteract high Canadian taxes; Doan argues for caution, reminding listeners of unintended consequences in league changes.
    • "Once you do this, you're just opening another box..." —Shane Doan (37:40)
• Mentoring and Parental Approach:
  • Doan emphasizes supportive, realistic, and at times sarcastic feedback to his son, never harsh, focusing on self-awareness and joy in the game.
• Player/Team Fashion Segment (44:17+):
  • The group laughs over outrageous, stylish, and sometimes questionable new-era NHLer outfits, comparing stories from “old days” and modern arrivals.

4. Goalie Commentary in the Media (47:47–51:52)

• Goalies Calling Out Teams:
  • Discussion of recent incidents with goalies (Wolf, Stolarz) publicly calling out their teams for lack of offense—a rarity in hockey culture.
    • "I can't produce offense." —Dustin Wolf (50:07)
  • The panel weighs the appropriateness, player frustrations, and changes in typical hockey media dynamics.

5. Rising Stars: Mathew Schaefer and the Young Islanders (53:10–54:51)

• Schaefer draws comparisons to Drew Doughty and early Niedermayer, possibly even Olympic potential.
  • "He's the best player on the Islanders right now... the joy, dude." —Ryan Whitney (53:11)
• Impact on Islanders' fan culture and how a single player’s energy can rejuvenate a franchise.

6. Red Wings, Devils, & Standout NHL Trends (55:09–65:54)

• Biz defends his nuanced analysis of Detroit’s Emmett Finney after fan flak, providing a detailed breakdown of a smart off-puck sequence (57:34–59:41).
• Devils’ Surge & “Deranged Devils Fan” Pasha:
  • Pasha details NJ’s special teams dominance (PK, PP), Jack Hughes’ ascent, and team depth beyond the stars.
    • "They’ve now killed off 21 straight penalties... they are still number one in that." —Pasha (62:35)
  • Banter about whether Jack Hughes is already a top-5 player; Pasha says he’s ahead of Crosby “today.”
• Hockey Twitter and Fanbase Ribbing:
  • Ongoing sidebar-wise jabs about social media takes and fan culture.

7. Boston Bruins and Brad Marchand’s Return (67:00–72:35)

• Emotional recap of Marchand’s homecoming with the Panthers; how the tribute had the feel of a number retirement night—live reflections from RA in the stands (127:35–129:08).
  • "That's probably a top-10, if not a top-5, moment I've had in that building." —RA (127:35)
• Discusses Bruins’ struggles post-trade and the complicated afterglow of beloved players moving on.

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Notable Quotes

• "Who cares if your kid’s not the best player at twelve? It’s a marathon." —Shane Doan (19:39)
• “It's not even close. It's more nerve-wracking watching my kid play.” —Shane Doan (13:04)
• "Once you do this, you're just opening another box. The legs on every decision... it has such ramifications.” —Shane Doan (37:40)
• "I have yet to make a mistake from about 150 feet up in the air.” —Shane Doan (33:16)
• "The joy. The passion for a kid who’s lost his mom and then, like, you know how much he appreciates this." —Ryan Whitney on Mathew Schaefer (53:13)
• "That's probably a top-10, if not a top-5, moment I've had in that building in Bruins history." —RA on Marchand’s tribute (127:35)
• "A hockey fan's a hockey fan and it doesn't matter the gender who you are. You want everybody to be in this together." —Jon Cooper (88:50)

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Special Interview Highlights

A. Jon Cooper: Tampa Bay Lightning & Team Canada Coach (82:32–115:50)

• Shares reflections on the Olympic orientation camp, including the value of connecting men’s and women’s national teams and para athletes. (84:26–87:33)
• Praises the passion, humor, and intelligence of the women’s national team and the mutual respect between players.
• Peels back the curtain on Team Canada selection and staff, mentioning regular touchpoints and the importance of seeing and understanding the new generation.
  • "Four Nations was a huge step forward for us... now you have a taste." —Jon Cooper (91:46)
• Shares a comical story about Wayne Gretzky derailing a coaching meeting with 2.5 hours of stories. (107:02–108:19)
• Commentary on the logic for his contract’s “quiet” extension and how the Lightning are the “no drama club.” (111:16)
• Mutual love for the Spittin’ Chiclets pod, his affection for RA’s pop-culture recommendations, and the deep-running hockey connections at Boston’s Knights of Columbus (101:05–104:37).

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‘RA’s World’: Rear Admiral’s Triumphant Return (117:58–END)

• Personal update: Open, candid acknowledgment of his absence, mental health journey, gratitude to fans, Dave Portnoy, and Chicklets team; heartwarming shoutout to Coach Jon Cooper for his support.
  • "Happens in life, sometimes you fall and skin your knee, sometimes you fall in a ditch and can't get up for six months...But I love you guys." —RA (118:38)
• Life and Hockey Chat:
  • Describes concert experiences (Oasis in Chicago), Caribbean relaxation, and memorable sports moments in Boston.
  • Offers NHL picks (predicts Leafs beating Jets for the Cup; Anthony Stolarz for Conn Smythe).
  • Quick-hit takes on current goaltending trends, Montreal’s energy, and the campaign by Jack Hughes and brother for youth literacy in New Jersey (165:12).
  • Honors recently lost hockey legends (Ken Dryden, Eddie Jackman, Bernie Parent).
• Fashion File: Continues the debate, reviewing the best and worst of NHL fashion with classic RA wit: “I’m waiting for someone to show up in sweatpants and a wife beater—my money’s on Seth Jarvis.” (155:40)
• Room Tour: Classic Rear Admiral; reveals personal memorabilia, artifacts (NHL goggles, Rolls Royce hood ornament, “Ladies Room” sign), and memorable life snapshots (159:57–164:49).
• Gamble Corner: NFL and NHL picks, plus a poetic fan analogy for baseball’s playoff tension: "Hockey is Jason—a relentless action. Baseball is Hitchcock—stress, then all hell breaks loose." (169:01)
• Final Notes: Emotional shoutout to his father and excitement to be back in the mix.

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Important Timestamps

• Pink Whitney Hype/Lifestyle Banter: 01:11–07:40
• Blue Jays Baseball/City Energy: 07:40–09:07
• Shane Doan Interview: 09:07–47:44
• Goaltending Criticism in Media: 47:47–51:52
• Rise of Mathew Schaefer: 53:10–54:51
• Red Wings/Devils/League Trends: 55:09–65:54
• Marchand’s Tribute & Bruins: 67:00–72:35, with RA reflection at 127:35+
• Jon Cooper Interview: 82:32–115:50
• RA’s World Begins: 117:58
• Fashion/Life Tour/Final Bits: 153:47–END

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Tone & Takeaways

The signature voice of Spittin’ Chiclets—irreverent, loyal, sharp, and honest—runs through this episode, with deep hockey insights and plenty of offbeat culture. Shane Doan’s wisdom on late-blooming and staying humble, Jon Cooper’s stories of coaching and hockey community, and Rear Admiral’s heartfelt return encompass why Chiclets bonds so strongly with listeners. This is a can’t-miss episode for fans of pro hockey, hockey parenting, NHL fashion, and genuine sports camaraderie.

Transcript

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[D]

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[E]

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[A]

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[D]

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[F]

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[D]

What's up guys? What's up, folks? Welcome to episode 590 of the Spitting Chicklets podcast presented to you by get it Out Keith. Pink Whitney everywhere in Greensboro, everywhere in Charlotte, all over New York City. Actually, our guy Ron from Son of a Boy Dad. Everyone go check out Son of a Boy Dad. The Chicklets boys were on this past week right before we did our live show. It dropped the next day. On Tuesday, he sent me pictures. He was doing a cruise all around New York City and he was in Harlem. And Pink Whitney was everywhere. Everywhere, he said. So incredible to see the representation of Pink Whitney all over the biggest city in the United States of America. I love that. As I mentioned, it's down south, it's out west, it's everywhere. Midwest biz, you know, the Grand Prairies in the United States. It's everywhere.

[C]

Some. Some places in Canada still, but the tariffs have still messed that up. But at a certain point, we will be smuggling more of it across the board.

[D]

Exactly. Canada. Don't you worry. I've gotten your messages. We will. We will bring an 18 wheeler up there full of it and we may not even charge you for it. We'll just give it to you. That's. That's the kind of mood we're in. Back to two episodes a week, so shout out. Pink Whitney.

[C]

I would do another pink Whitney tour in Canada. If they opened up the borders again and they. And they got pink Whitney there, I would go across Canada. I do it in an rv and I would be pouring it down people's throats. And in every small town along the way, it would be as popular as Tim Hortons is in Canada if they open the borders back up.

[D]

A donut and a pink Whitney shooter actually go pretty well together. I've tried it.

[F]

He also said he's willing to live in an rv. He said he's ready for that RV life.

[D]

He did not say willing. He said he wants to.

[C]

I would do that. You guys think I'm crazy, man. I'm fine now.

[D]

Will you do it? If we paint the RV pink? And it's.

[C]

I would 1000% live in an earth roamer. So the. The picture came up post. Malone just got a brand new custom one and it's the. It's the bigger version one. They have one that's like a. A two bed where there's one above where you drive. And then you would turn like the kitchen area, like the kitchen table into a bed. And then there's another one that's even longer where I believe you could probably sleep three beds. I would. I would drive around and live in the bigger version 1. If it was wrapped in pink Whitney. I would. I would be like the new John Madden where I would. I would just drive to Atlanta for my broadcast and then if we're on the road anywhere for maybe like the conference finals or finals, I would bring it there. And then in between, when we're doing sandbaggers, whether it's Florida, whether it's here, whether it's there, I would. I would live out of this thing for the next four or five years of my life. No kids, no wife, no dog, obviously is Yan's as let you know pretty much every pod since he chirped me about it.

[F]

Wait, would you have a driver or you would drive it yourself?

[C]

I love Driving. I love driving.

[D]

You're a driver. You're an absolute driver. I just looked up Post Malone's Earth Roamer. Really wish there was pictures of the inside, but it's a wagon. The thing, it's $1.5 million too. I didn't realize that they were that expensive.

[C]

Keep in mind, I would if I. I would sell my place in Arizona and then do that. The CRO. The. The cross country flights are starting to wear me down a little bit. And Yan's is in Florida. Yan, you're in Boston. G's back in Boston. The warthog. Who's back?

[D]

Warthog.

[C]

Welcome back. Couple clicks for the rear, boys.

[D]

For anyone who's a little confused, every Friday show will have RA on the back half. After the interview, we drop and it's Ra's World, right? And like I just mentioned on Name, this is. This is Ra's back in the fold. He brings the thunder, he brings the heat. You see more and more of them. So everything's going to be up to ra. What we discuss, what we chat about. Ra's World. And we're all living it on the back half of Friday's episode. So I cannot wait to get him on. He's sitting back there right now watching us. We can't see him. I think he's taking notes. Anything he can kind of chirp us for, he can then come on and boom. He could come right at you, biz, or right at me.

[C]

I love that. And right now, essentially, the warthog. Is it a warthog or warthog?

[D]

Warthog.

[C]

Warthog.

[D]

He's in his cage and he's coming out in an hour.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

And we're feeding. We're feeding. We're not even feeding them like healthy snacks like carrots or celery. We're throwing in Milk Duds and fucking Sour Patch Kids. To the warthog.

[F]

So got to go to the dentist.

[C]

No, no. You know, we're throwing in the golden fishies. He loves those golden fishies in his own Ziploc bag. We're just throwing it in there. You know what we should do as we get closer to our age?

[D]

Dust.

[C]

We should start the. And the. Let's get more aggressive as the closer we get to Ra's World. So we got some special guests planned for today. And I can't wait to see it.

[G]

Starts rattling like.

[D]

He said, 1400 goldfish out of his own plastic bag. Let him out.

[C]

Oh, we told our Francis Ellis told a hilarious RA story on the Son of A boy dad. So just going back to the end of last pod and, and Whit touching on Ron. It was great sitting down. Six of us sat down with Mike's a six man weave, as they call it. And that's not easy, but I thought we were all snapping around. Great, great hearing about these like, stand up, you know, Lil Sass's first ever standups where, you know, he had to crack a few pops before going on stage. Thought he was crushing it. Watched the tape and then realized he was bombing. And just some, some, some fun stories from how these guys all started out and where they came from and. Yeah, and I think we've had Ron on before, like the battle rapping stuff. That is a different fucking level, man. It's crazy how he's able to do that and remember all the, the intelligent stuff he wrote and fire that off in real time. So just some very talented guys over there. So it was awesome collabing with them. But what do you, what do you guys got on the hockey docket? What have you guys been following the.

[D]

Most before we get to hockey? I'm not in a huge rush to get to hockey right now because we got to experience a pretty special moment for your country biz. We experience it together at a great little Irish pub. I wish I remember the name of it. After we had dinner, we look and we say, wow, it's the fourth inning. Game 7, Jays, Mariners. The Mariners have never been to a World Series. The Jays haven't been since. I think it was 93 was their last one. And God damn biz, you're a.

[C]

You.

[D]

Toronto's a baseball city. I got to give that city a lot of credit. You can't do shit in hockey come this spring. But come the biggest moment of baseball seasons in the fall, you have a baseball team and it's rising up your entire country. And also a win happened after their star player wore a Leafs jersey to a game seven, which is just the worst idea you could ever imagine. But they came through. They got it done for you. You owned me on a video. But I'm happy for Toronto, truly, because they got a baseball team that might be able to take this whole thing down.

[C]

I appreciate that wit and, and we're going to get the name of that pub and we're going to get to the Blue Jays. But given the start that this player in the league has had, I had a surprise for you guys. A guy that I played with, a guy that Keith played with, and we're going to hop conversations and come back because we have a special guest joining us right now. Phoenix Coyotes legend. Legend. Shane. Don't. Shane.

[A]

No. Shane.

[C]

Friggin dome.

[B]

Hey, guys.

[D]

What's up, buddy?

[B]

How are you doing? How you guys doing?

[D]

Great, thanks. We appreciate this. What a biz. What a surprise by you.

[F]

Unreal.

[C]

We had to. After the game that Josh had last night and the way he's been playing, I just thought, how could I surprise the boys? And I hadn't seen this guy's face in a while. And you must be on the iser. The iser pan skin routine. Like, look at your skin right now. You're looking.

[D]

I don't get it. I don't get it.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly what I'm doing. I'm trying that. Yeah, I was going to try something like that.

[G]

You know me.

[D]

Your wife just gives you something, says, wash your face with this before bed. Okay, honey, I just.

[B]

I don't think I've washed my face before bed in my life, so. We'll see.

[C]

All natural, baby. But it's kind of awesome because you're, you know, you're working with the Toronto Maple Leafs and I was pretty shocked to see that trade go down. When the Utah Mammoth traded Josh Doane, they ended up getting J.J. paterka back. Maybe I understand it with where Utah is and the pressure that they have to make playoffs, but it must be awesome that the fact that Josh is so close and you're able to go down and probably watch him play and just, you know, be on the same time zone as him. So how has that been as a father and just how proud are you at his start and the way that he's handled everything in the last six months?

[B]

Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. Obviously he was. I mean, the Utah, the Coyotes were kind of like his family. I mean, you both know that. You saw he was in the room with Stan and Tony and Jason, Rudy and Jimmy o' Neal and all the guys had kind of moved over with him. And so it was. It was a big shock for him for the. When the trade happened and in the minute he got into the dressing room in Buffalo. He loves the guys. He's telling me how this guy's the best and that guy's the best and he had loved this guy and he's ecstatic. I think Kevin Adams and Mr. Pula both reached out to him and made him feel like he's most. He was important and then it was. It was sick. From then on, he was. He was in and really excited and Obviously, he's had some success and you want to get a couple goals early and gets a couple goals, and now he's feeling really good about himself. So it's. It's fun. It's fun to watch.

[D]

So donor you, you played 21 years and it's just shocking to see it was one. It was one organization. Like, it's so rare to see that. So you almost. You couldn't give the patented, hey, I remember my first time traded, right? Like, you never went through that. But when he found out, was it. Was it more like shock or was it more kind of excitement? I think I'll play more there. Like, how were you able to discuss the business part of hockey when he gave you a call or you found out?

[B]

Yeah, I think that the fact that Buffalo specifically, and at least that's what they told him, had really wanted him. And that was a big part of. Makes you feel wanted. And that's really all I focus on. That's what we talked about him and I was. Another team really wants in. And what Utah and Arizona had done for him was incredible. He was so grateful for Andre Terane and Bill and. And Chris Armstrong and Ryan Smith and what they did for him because they, they gave him a chance to play and he got an opportunity to play for the team that he grew up loving and being part of. But he wanted to create his own story. And that's kind of what we talked about, like, hey, go somewhere and do your own thing and have fun doing it. And I think, I think the fall in the spring, he got to go to the world Championships, and so he kind of know. He knew Tage from skating with him in the summers, and so that made a little bit easier. And then with Kes going with them, it made it easy. We were excited and we got really pumped about it and I couldn't wait for him to get here. And yeah, he loves the guys. He knows Owen Powers really well, so he's got a group of guys that he knew before he got here. And. And so he was really excited.

[F]

And Doner, having played with you, I knew you weren't. You weren't really stressing too much before games or even during games. Like, you were getting dressed three minutes before we went on the ice. But is it more nerve wracking for you watching Josh play than it was for you playing or getting ready for a game?

[B]

Jelly, it's not even close. Like, I could. Like, I. My wife gives it to me because she's never seen me really, like, before a game. She would never see me. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, exactly. She's like, what's wrong with you? Like, stop. I'm like, well, I don't know what to do. There's nothing you can do. You just watch and, and then that you have every thought go through your head of like, you never really think about anything going wrong and when you're playing. But now that I'm like worried about him and it's different and. But it's been great. It's been a lot of fun. We've been. I'm actually in the hotel right across the street from it at the, at the Marriott because we were there last night and then Toronto, we play tomorrow night. So the guys are coming in tonight. So.

[C]

Yeah, you have a home and home, right, with Buffalo?

[B]

Yeah, we got a home at home. Friday, Saturday, they moved the games up on Friday to I think the first game. Yeah, they moved the Friday game from 7:30 to 7 and then the game on Saturday from 7 to 5.

[C]

So for what reason Will you have.

[F]

Money on the board for that?

[C]

Oh, I will.

[B]

I have money on the board. I don't know if I have to have money on the board for that.

[D]

Yeah, you're like, that ended. I'm done playing. I have to do that.

[C]

You don't want to get roped in with this Chauncey Billups nonsense. You better be careful. Can't be just chucking money on other teams boards and stuff.

[F]

Donor. We. I'd like I had talked to you after, you know, first couple games of the year and Josh was creating opportunities, setting guys up and just wasn't really getting the points. And I know it's easier for us to say, like, it'll come, it'll come. Like, I was just wondering if you had any conversations with him. Like, hey, stop. Like, you don't have to grip the stick like it's gonna come. You're playing awesome. Like, just given your advice that you've. You accumulated over 21 years.

[B]

Yeah, 100% watching the games. It was, it was hard because he'd made some really good plays and gave some guys some good opportunities. He hit, I think again in the opener. He deflected one off the post. It, it was a nice, it was a nice deflection off against the Rangers. And it, I think one went post posting in and, or post posting out and, and we talked about it as a kid, like tons of times about how, hey, it doesn't really matter if you're scoring or not, if you're playing the right way and you just have to play the right way. And unfortunately, when it's not going in, that doesn't seem to be the right answer. But for him to, to finally get a couple that. Get a couple assists and then get a couple goals, that felt really nice. For a couple goals. Didn't use a stick in either of them, but at the same time they count. There's no.

[D]

Doesn't matter.

[B]

That's right. No pictures on a scorecard.

[C]

So I was on the broadcast. We were about to break down a Josh Stone tape and then we ended up getting that Colton Ellis kid on for, for a great interview. What a kid. Just so humble and he was just so grateful and really cool to see Hank get to ask him a few questions where he's like, oh, I'm glad I don't see you right now. I'd be a lot more nervous, probably stuttering my words, but I was going to go back to, to the team and Josh's line specifically. So they've won three of the last four. How long has he been playing with McLeod and Tuck? Because in that game last night, I thought on the four check they were unreal. They. They were good at like rotating. You know, like one guy would, would dip in, the other guy would cover as the F3 and then the other guy would take over the wall where they were really jamming up their D. So I felt like that was where they were doing a lot of their damage on the forecheck. But I feel like he's really developed a good chemistry with Tuck and McLeod. Was that the first time they played together? Has this been going on the last three, four games on this like little winter?

[B]

Well, they, they were together once right, like right at the very beginning and then they had a. They had a couple injuries and then when Benson came back, they, they switched. They put McLeod with, with Tuck and Josh. Then Josh had been with Coolidge and Quinny a little bit and those and they'd had some success, but not, not as much offensive wise, I guess. But yeah, I, I love their line in the way that they can forecheck. I think that obviously Clowder can fly and Tuck and skate and can score. And I, Josh is. I think his biggest strength is a stick. He has ability to knock pucks down and get a stick on pucks and, and create turnovers by just having a good stick because he. I can tease him about not being the fastest guy on the ice. He's working on it and he's getting faster and faster, but oh no, we Lost him.

[F]

There he is.

[D]

There he is.

[B]

Sorry, guys.

[C]

Were you getting a phone call there from Tree Living about tampering or what was going on there?

[B]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe something like that. No, get a phone call from my wife.

[C]

It was Andrea.

[D]

It was.

[B]

Yeah, it was.

[D]

She's like, did you put on that skin routine thing yet, coaching Josh or. Or even talking to your son after games? Has there ever been a time you maybe got like a little too angry with them? Or was it never the case? Like, you never were hard on him if he didn't play? Great.

[B]

I know what I found. I was sarcastic. Like, I'd get like, hey, that was a good game. Like, I get sarcastic when I. And I didn't.

[D]

I like, thanks, dad.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I had to watch that. That was the one thing I would do. I think one time I. I quietly suggested that maybe we should stop playing hockey if this is, you know, hey, you don't want to play, you don't need to play. It's easy. Why don't we just go home now? And that was probably about the hardest thing that he didn't like that very much for him, he. And I know he's. It sounds cheesy, but he's. He's an amazing young man and it's easy. Like he wants so badly to please like his coaches and whoever it is that you don't have to be hard on him. You can say that that wasn't good enough and that's pretty much all that would, you know, that's enough to put him in his. In his place. But he also wants to know that too. He's. And he's pretty good at self awareness. He knows when he's not good. Like, he's like, hey, I wasn't very good tonight. Sometimes he's a little too hard on himself, but not too often is it me. Him to get upset with them yet not always might come in doner.

[F]

Like we. Obviously we were around him as a kid. And what I remember him is just like intensely watching our games every game. Like never wanting to leave early, any of that. But also when he was younger. Like, and this isn't a shot at him. He wasn't the best player on his team. He played with knives. Then he went to Chicago Steel. He wasn't the best player on his team. Like, can you talk about the late blooming and being a parent and being. And you were in the NHL at 14 years old. So it's a little tough for you obviously to give him advice on that, but like, the advice that you must have gave him for other parents that their kids, you know, aren't the best player at 12 years old or, like, who gives a right at 12 years old?

[B]

Well, and that was the part for me, I think that was the most exciting for. To watch him make it into the NHL was. It wasn't like, you know, some of the kids. You see him at 16 years old, you're like, that guy's gonna play. Like, he's. He's. You think he's gonna play because he's 6 3, 215 pounds faster than everyone on the ice. And you're like, okay, he's. He has the capability. Yeah, he's got a chance. Where with Josh, I think a lot of people that watched him play it weren't necessarily as impressed with his physical stature at the time as. As they thought that he would have had. And. And so it was tough. Yeah. I remember a game, we did the Blue White game in Kamloops when he was 15, is 15 or 16 years old. So it's like the. The Kamloops Blazers do this game where it's, you know, your. Your prospects play against your actual team. He was like, 5, 6, 100 and, like, 30 pounds. And he's out there. And Jermaine Lowen, who was the captain of the team at the time, was 6 4, 2, 3 5. And I'm like, he's going to kill him. Like, if Josh. Like, even though they're on the same team, he might actually accidentally get killed by him. Like, but after the game, we're walking off the ice, and I'd never seen it bother him. Nothing had ever bothered him about that. And we get in the car, and he was. He was upset.

[D]

Like, emotionally, I'm tiny dad kind of thing. Yeah.

[B]

Like, and he was like, I. I know what to do, and I can't do it. Like, I know where I should go, and I know how to get there, and I know what. And I can't do it. And he just. He. He was. He kind of. That was the only time I saw him really get upset, like, about that. And we talked about how it was a marathon. This isn't a sprint that I said, in the end, everybody ends up within, you know, 20% of each other. Like, you know, if you're 6 4, you're 20% bigger than the guy that's 5 11. And if you're 220 pounds, it's 20% bigger than the guy that's, you know, like, that's. Everyone ends up in that kind of. Right now you're at about 40% on some of these guys. So hang in there, and when that balance comes, you're gonna be fine. And he did. And then when he got to Chicago, he had a lot of fun. And obviously Chicago was incredible for him with the way they taught skill and the way they pushed the program there. He had a lot of. He had fun and success and some great players, and that helped him. But, yeah, playing with Matty Nies growing up was a lot of fun too. And he was always smart. Josh could always figure things out. So he'd figure out how to play when he was little. And I think it helps him now that he's older and the same size as everybody.

[C]

You played in the Western League, obviously, Josh went off to asu. You mentioned the ushl. I had someone send me a tweet because we were talking about him on the broadcast, and they said that they followed the Chicago Steel very closely. I think they actually went to all the games and they said I'd never seen someone develop so fast. From his first year in Chicago to his second year where, like, they were like, he was a completely different player. On how. How good he had gotten, I found, like, it's been like that kind of jump now, like, going from last year to this year and what he's been able to do at the NHL level. What do you make of these? Like, these, like, quick, like, not only growth as far as physicality, but his, like, mental side of his hockey game. Like, what do you make of. Of how quick it's all coming to him?

[B]

You know, what he did, it was a huge jump from that. From his first year in Chicago to his second. Covid hit at the end of his first year, and so there was a lot longer, I think, gap there. And so he had even more time before his second year started. So Covid hit in March. They didn't start playing again until it was like seven months later. And in those seven months, he really grew. Like, those were during COVID He was at home. And. And so that helped him with the jump wise. But his. His ability to understand, like, I always think that hockey's about. It's like, it asks you questions like, here's a problem, you gotta solve it. If you can solve the problem, you move on. If you can't solve that problem, it's time to go home. And Josh has that ability to kind of solve the problems of. And figure out it's not always the normal way to do it because he's had to Figure it out. Because he was so much smaller than everybody when. When he was younger, when he was 13, 14, 15, 16, he was even so much smaller than everybody. So he figured out how to solve the. Use a stick and get smart and protect the puck and do the little things. And so now when he gets into situations, I think in the NHL, he's having to solve problems that he, you know, okay, how do I figure out. How do I figure out how to score the way that I used to score, Figure out how I can get to the front of the net, how I can be around the net, how I can get in on the four check, how we can play defense, and. And that's. I. He's got a long ways to go, and he's going to keep kind of trying to solve those problems any. And he seems to figure it out a lot better than I did. I was just kind of like, I'm gonna fight someone. Run into it harder. If you. If you can't get, why, run into the problem and hit it harder. That was kind of the theory why.

[F]

Your nose is flat.

[C]

You also played in the Western League, where they had separate warmups, so you came up through a different time. Now, going back to my last question, do you have a strong opinion on the way that they've changed things? I talked about how you played in the Western League, where before, if you played in the Western League, you weren't able to go off to college. Your son played in the ushl, so you understand how important that age and that development is, where now they can kind of go from the USHL to the OHL or CHL for that matter, off to college and then maybe hit pro. So how do you feel about the way that, like, hockey has changed its structure in those. Those very important, vital years of their growth?

[B]

What I think is the biggest part of it is that it gave boys the ability to make a decision of where they're going at a young age and not feel like they're mortgaging their whole future. Like when you were 14 and a team from the CHL came to you and wanted you to go play for them, and you had to make a decision. Gans, you went through it. Wits, you. You went through it. You guys had to make those bids. You. We all did. We all had to make a decision. Where are we going to go? What are we going to do? And I'm 15 years old, and I'm having to make a decision on whether or not want to choose going and getting a secondary education in the US or forfeiting that and putting all my eggs in one basket. And I think that's probably the biggest change and something that I think is really positive. I think there's a ton that's going to change in the next three to four years. I think. I don't know what's going to happen with all the leagues and how it's all going to kind of wash itself out, but I think it's good for the boys as much as it is anything for the families of the boys so that they don't have to make that decision and be like, oh, I have no choice. I have to take a step. The CHL is the best junior league in the world and you had to take a, make a decision to not go play in the best league in the world if you wanted to go forward. And that didn't seem to like, align with the way sports is traditionally goes. When you get good enough, you go play in the best league. After you play in that league for a little bit, you'll play in the next best league. I think what the NCAA is for my son was huge as it gave him a little longer Runway. It gave him a chance to develop a little bit more physically. He would have been in a lot of trouble if he had to go at 19, 20 years old to go play in the minors because he wouldn't have been able to do it. But at the, at the NCAA level, asu, they did a great job of giving them more Runway. And I think that's huge for all the boys because you don't know. I think, I think the most important thing is just keep getting better. And if you can keep getting better, then, then you have a chance to play. And if once you plateau, that's, that's kind of when you know you got to see where you're at.

[D]

Especially the kids who plateau at 14 and they're dominating and it's like, well, it's a long. Like you said, it's the marathon. It's crazy.

[B]

It's so funny wits because people will come and be like, hey, you see my son? What do you think? I'm like, I don't know, like he's the best kid on the ice, but he's playing against 14 year olds, 15 year olds. Like in two years, is he going to be the best kid on the ice? Is he getting better? Is he getting, is that as good as he's ever going to get? Watch him. And if he enjoys playing, let him keep playing. That's it.

[D]

Try hearing that about 8 year olds. I know you say it about 15 year olds and it's crazy.

[B]

It is, it's, it's actually unbelievable. And you, and yet you totally get it as a parent. Like I remember going through it and doing it. Yeah. So.

[C]

Oh yeah, you spent a ton of time watching hockey. I would assume the most you consume is NHL hockey. Who has impressed you the most this year? You know, which teams have you saw where you're like, wow, I really like what they're showing. Obviously you're affiliated with Toronto. Things haven't necessarily started out the best there. You can avoid that conversation if you want. So who, who, who do you like and who's impressed you?

[B]

I mean there's a whole group of teams that you look at the teams that are having at the top of every division and you gotta, you know, you're getting eight, nine, ten games in and you're starting to see teams that weren't necessarily the teams that were at the top of the division in the past be at the top. I, I, I watched Detroit last night and you're impressed with what the young, those young three kids at the end of the game with the goalie pulled. They had three kids that were 20 years old on the ice and that's pretty impressive or 21, I guess. And that's impressive. And, and I don't think anybody saw any of those three boys playing in the NHL and playing that significant of a role on their team this early in the season.

[D]

And that I don't even think Detroit brass.

[B]

No.

[D]

Thought that was going to be the case.

[B]

Finney played in Kamloops, so I got a soft spot for him and he owned him. Yeah.

[C]

At one point. You're part owner of the Kamloops Blazers, right? What's the ownership group like?

[B]

It's great. It's you, Iggy Rex, Mark Rechy and Daryl Sidor and Tom Galardi.

[C]

That'll do it. The owner of the Dallas Stars also. Yeah, yeah, he's got his hands and everything. And what was Finney like in junior? Someone said he didn't even have a goal a 16 year old year.

[B]

Oh, his 16 year old deer. He was. Well he got, he had a great playoffs that year. When he got into the playoffs we went, we hosted the Memorial cup and he was really good and Sorry, that was a 17 year old year. Yeah, 16 year old year. He didn't have a goal a 17 year old year. He was okay, but he was kind of just scraping the, kind of getting into the top of the lineup. He was probably our Ninth forward. But when you talk to the guys on the team, like Fraser Mitten was with Toronto and now he's in Boston, but, and Stank and those guys, when you talk to those guys, they would be like, hey, the, the Finney kid's good. Like he's gonna be a good player. And when Detroit drafted him, they drafted.

[C]

Late seventh round Yan's has been all over him this year.

[D]

Well, I talked to Danny Cleary about it yesterday. I was like, what's up with these? Like, we went and there was a game that 16 year old year, there was injuries and he played a ton. And they're like, all right, okay. And then you get to the seventh round and it's flyer picks, you know, you're just kind of taking a chance. They picked him. And then he said by the next March, he's standing next to him outside the locker room, he's like, dude, you're taller than I am now. Like, he grew. You're lucky. That's just all. Lucky draft kid. He grows three inches in the, in the next year. It's like, okay, now we're really cooking with gas. But even he's like, I didn't, I didn't know he'd be this good this early. Which is just testament to their scouts.

[B]

Oh, no kidding. Yeah, and at the time I was, I think I was, I was with Arizona at the time and like nobody had them anywhere really was talking about him when we, when we were hosting the Memorial cup, but our players were talking about him. So then we got talking about him like we were like this, this. But then when you're, when you're with the organization, always feels like you're kind of, you know, if you're saying something about him, it's always taken with a grain of salt because it's like, well, easy one of your guys. But I watched him last year, twice I watched him, I watched him play in Prince George last year and we didn't have a very good team in Kamloops and Prince George had a really good team and he, he almost beat Prince George by himself. Like they had a good team and he just. I hadn't seen him play really in person in probably a year and a half. And that was for. And I was like, holy man, this kid's. I did not expect him to do this, like, be this good, but it was fun to watch him.

[D]

So as a player, there's so many peaks and valleys in a season and, and it's, I think it's easier for a player not to Panic after a two or three game losing streak. But as a guy in a, in a front office, I imagine it. The emotions after wins and losses are almost like higher, right? I, I don't know. You could tell me if I'm wrong, but you probably watch Toronto now and you lose a couple games and you almost get more pissed. Had you been on the Coyotes and lost a couple games. Is that true?

[B]

Yeah, it's, it's different because I think you just, you, you take it home more because you can't do anything about it on the ice. So then you, you, you like, if you have a bad game as a player, I think that you, you, you're like, okay, next game I'm going to be better. Like, next game I'm going to whatever. I got a bear. Whatever it is that you think, you, you weren't sharp. You kind of know what your skill level is, so you know what you're capable of. And if you didn't perform at your capabilities, you're like, okay, I gotta focus here and get myself, you know, dialed in a little bit more. But when you're in the other, when you're on the management side, all you do is watch video and discuss it and go over it and figure out how. Like you just keep discussing the same things and, and that's, that's hard. And you want to win so bad and you want to find a way to help so bad and, but at the same time it's, it's different.

[D]

And the puck drops and you're, you can't do a thing.

[B]

No, no. And I have yet to make a mistake from about 150ft up in the air.

[F]

I was gonna say the game's a lot easier from up top donor. So don't forget that you were a player once too.

[D]

GMs and staff should have to sit down low. Like, just remember, just remember guys like you had 15 minutes to make the play from up in the catwalk.

[B]

Oh, it's unbelievable. When guy you're sitting up there and it's like, how didn't you see he was open? He was open for the last four seconds you had the puck. You're getting chased by a 230 pound guy that really wants to hit you hard and hurt you. It's a lot easier to just, you know, dismiss that and be like, well, just step aside and look at these right there, like 15ft away. Just slide it to him. Oh, it's so hard. And that I think as management, you always want to remember that. Like the guys want to be good. Like, nobody wants to be bad. No one wants to go out there and stink. Like, they want to go out there and make a difference and be helpful and make your team better. It's not like they're choosing not to do well, but the circumstances around them, whether it's ice time, whether it's personal life, whether it's. Whatever it is that's affecting that player, you have to be able to see that and understand that because it has such a huge impact on people.

[F]

Do you see like a big difference in. Obviously majority of your career was in Phoenix. You did play in Winnipeg a little bit, but like, the pressures of playing in a Canadian city and especially Toronto with the group that they have there. Like, do you feel like the outside noise gets into a locker room more than it would have when we were playing in Arizona?

[B]

I think, yeah. Like, there's no question it gets in more like without a doubt. And there's a give and take. Like, it's drastically different. Like, there's things that in Arizona that we never ever worried about and had to deal with in. Because of the, the awareness of the, of the Coyotes in the Valley. Like, there wasn't a huge awareness. Like there is in Toronto where it's. It's. It's. It's big. It's. It's a big deal. And, and there. And that comes with some huge benefits for the guys applying Toronto. Like, they get some huge benefits for that. Like, stuff that I didn't even fathom. And then there's some things that are also a little bit of a. Of a. Just make it a little bit harder as well. And you get, you weigh those both. And the benefits I think are. Are really unique and really special. And, And I'm. The more I'm around it, the more I admire it and impressed by the organization and the way that they do things.

[F]

I got, I got a question for you. We chatted about this when we were together and especially, you know, biz complains about the. Not complains, but talks about the, you know, the states that are tax free and stuff like that. So how's this for an idea that the player. You know how all the teams have like sponsors on their jerseys now?

[B]

Yes.

[F]

If the players can have a sponsor where in those Canadian cities, like, unreal idea.

[C]

You bought McDonald's.

[F]

Can give Connor McDavid $20 million and then he can be like, hey, listen guys, I'll play for 5 million.

[C]

Hey, hey, you. You laughed owner.

[B]

But let's keep in mind here, I'm.

[C]

Not Laughing because the owners opened up Pandora's box, right? They're, they're the ones who agreed to put those on the jersey. So considering, and a lot of people are not happy about it, like people are saying, like the Detroit Red Wings, the Toronto Maple leafs, these original 6 jerseys should not be ruined with advertisements. Well, once again, the Pandora's box has already been open. There's already a little, little crest of whatever ad. Why not just throw one on the other side? And that could be the personal player sponsor. Him and his agent have the opportunity to go to market and sell that. Obviously every, every province is taxed at a very high level compared to some states in the us. Obviously the New Yorks and the la's are high as well. But those are also markets where you can get a higher tag as far as these sponsorship deals. So I feel like that would even the playing field as far as guys maybe not taking these quote unquote hometown discounts because they're not being subject to the, to the provincial or state tax. I feel like that, like Yan's brought the idea and I go, it's genius. And those top end players can take an advantage of that considering they're being taxed more.

[D]

And the team would get a piece based on it being their jersey. But a percentage, hey, they'd have to.

[B]

Biz you, you talked about Pandora's box once it's opened. I understand what you're saying, but now once you do this, you're just opening another box. Like it's gonna like the legs on every decision that the league makes and the things that they do. It has such ramifications that you can't see coming until it's done. And it's always I. That's why I think it moves so slowly all the time because everyone's like, okay, wait a minute, is this really what we want? I mean, you look at, you look at video replay now we're, you know, we wanted to get it exactly right on the offsides. Well, now it's like the guys skates a millimeter offside and it slows down the game for seven minutes for us. But that's what we wanted because that's kind of the way it is. And so I, I like re, I like video replay because it gets the game right, but at the same time there's, you know, what, where, where does it end and how do you control it all? It's. I, I love, I, I love all this discussion.

[C]

The owner's on the fucking owner side now.

[D]

Don't do that Bettman said, don't do this.

[C]

Is Bettman in the room with you? He was. Turn your phone around. I want to see who's in the room with you.

[B]

I'm not saying I'm against it. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that every. It's nil is really what it is. It's name, engine and likeness. That's. It's a college and I love that. I think that for the kids in college it's amazing and for. And the way that it plays. I, I don't know what's going to happen. You look at what's going over on over in with the soccer teams and what they're. I don't even know what their jerseys are like. I, I have no idea what team's playing when I go to watch English Premier League because their jerseys are all covered in all different kinds of things. I don't even know. So that's not what the league wants, I'm assuming. But at the same time it's. Everybody wants to find a way to make it as much money as possible playing a sport that they love to play.

[D]

Bismill show up at your hotel room. I look at him, he's intense.

[B]

I know he's coming. He's actually coming after me right now. I like it.

[D]

You're taking money out of players pockets donor.

[C]

You're like, no, no, I'll go this route. Matthew Schaefer going back to when you started playing and you were coming up. When's the last time you've seen a young defenseman be this impactful already as an 18 year old? Like, this is crazy what he's doing. He's really changed the fabric of that Islanders team. Going from being so boring to where I feel like that building's packed. There's so much more energy and in the excitement levels through the roof for this 18 year old. And Witt even said that he might be making the Olympic team.

[B]

You know what the. The last D man. But it wasn't fair because he wasn't 20, he was 22. Was Makar. Like when Makar came in it was like the guys that were. When he. I mean he's way older so it's, it's not, it's not the even close to the comparison. But talking to the guys. Tree tells a story about he came in and played in the playoffs for Colorado and the scout that was scouting him in college was like, hey, when does this. When does the series start? And they said whatever was like April 20th or whatever he's like, oh man. Hopefully in UMass goes to the, to the finals and plays in the, in the Frozen Four. We don't want Makara to join that, to join their team. And Caler had a really good team at the time. Calgary, I think, had won the division. They're like the college kid again. And then they're like the first game they're played, they're, they, oh, we're in trouble like this. This guy's legit. This guy's unbelievable. And I'm not saying he's Makar by no means because that's a special player, but I think like what Schaefer's doing is so fun to. I like his joy. Like his joy in the way that and, and the way that he carries himself off the ice and the way that he's. Obviously adversity always builds character and he's had so much in his life and for him to be the type of young man that he is, I think that's so impressive.

[C]

Almost has a little Drew Doughty in him. I think it was Yanz who mentioned that or maybe you.

[F]

Yes, Doughty came in that Olympic year. The one in it was Vancouver.

[D]

Right. So that was Doty's second year. Right. And. And this would be. But it's very similar where like kind of surprising. He made it a little bit and then I think he started low on the depth chart and had three spinoramas at the offensive blue line. The first game Canada played and just took over the tournament and it's very similar. I think like all of a sudden, like no one's thinking it. If he continues on this pace, hey, this is a kid who's going to play in 2030 for us as well. Let's bring him in and then he plays his way into a top four role. There's a lot of hockey to be played, but I could see it happening. The only other guy I could think of who I think was 18, you'd know better. Donor is Scott Nedermeer. Was very young when he came in and dominated for the Devils, but they.

[B]

They had such a core on their blue line. Like they hurt like he. Because he came in, he put. He won the memorial cup in 93 and then. Yeah, in the spring of 93 he came in and he was unbelievable. He was unbelievable and played for them and yeah, it was. He was a 19 year old. I think though he came in as a 19 year old because he came back because they had the lockout in 94 and then he played that year in Kamloops.

[D]

Yeah, you're right. He only played four games his 18 year old year.

[B]

Yeah. And then came. And then his 19 year old deer. But yeah, you know what? Jovo came when he came, when Jovo was in Florida. He came out and they went to the, they went to the Stanley cup finals.

[F]

He was, he shut down Lindros, right?

[B]

Oh, yeah. And he was hammering people and physical and scoring goals. That was impressive. I was, that was my rookie year and his rookie year and he started.

[D]

Playing hockey like four years before that.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like the freak. The guy, he's a freak of an athlete. Him and Yan, Him, Yan's and Smitty. Those are the three guys that I would be like athletes that are just. If you're playing a sport, you just pick them. You're like, yeah, they're on my team. Like, I, I don't really care about what sport we're playing. I won't. They'll find a way to, to be successful at it. I didn't get to play with you. Wits and biz. You and I are in the same boat. So we'll be.

[D]

I don't know if you shoot a basketball, but there were NBA discussions when I was 14 and trust me, they didn't know if I was a righty or a lefty, put it that way.

[B]

Oh, there you go. There you go. That's always an advantage.

[C]

I got a question for you, donor. If we were back in our Coyotes days and maybe we didn't have the best start to the year and I started strutting down the hallway pre game with this outfit on right here, what would you have said to me?

[B]

Well, it's, it's the Canadian tuxedo, isn't it? Like, that's the, it's, it's perfect.

[F]

That's what donor wears every other day.

[C]

If you're not watching on the YouTube channel, this is William Nylander Walker in with a, a paper bag. And I would assume that's probably a $25,000 Canadian tuxedo. The way that he spends his dough. He's got that necklace that kind of looks like a bit like a choke collar. It looks like that Ra wore on the ice after the finals. Do you guys have a little fun with, with Nylander and the. In the tank tops he's wearing around town? Like, what do you say?

[B]

Oh, Willie is. Willie, Willie. He's. It's Willie Styles. I, I got to play with Junior Styles and now I get to hang out with Willie Styles. It's, it's a lot of fun.

[D]

That outfit on Nylander works. I, I think it's 96 of the league. It doesn't work. That's how I looked at that.

[B]

Yeah, that other four, that other four is unique. And they, they're, they're very special.

[D]

There's like, yeah, whatever. Fifteen guys who could rock that and say, okay, if I imagine me coming in with that chest hair grip in like body fat coming out of the tank top, it's like.

[F]

But Biz, to answer your question, if you walk down the hallway and that giving hairy knuckles to the boys, that outfit would have been in the cold tub.

[C]

I remember, I remember I wore a fedora one time. Like I bought this hat in Nashville. And by the end of dinner, I think Radislav Kluzlo had cut a hole in it with a steak knife. Like, these guys would just torture me, Torture me. You loved it.

[B]

You looked forward to it.

[F]

No, he was mad about that.

[C]

I was mad about my fedora.

[B]

You were actually. I remember my hard earned money. Yeah, yeah. Well, the one. It comes to money. You don't mess with business money like you.

[D]

No, because he can't resell it with the hole in it.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Game used. I could have had the whole team sign it with a silver Sharpie and made a few bucks. But who. So you, you mentioned Junior was, Junior was the guy who was wearing the crazy outfits when you were playing with him.

[B]

Yeah, Junior. Well, everyone had one or two guys that would have. Smitty, remember Smitty had that red suit that he would wear that was just looked like there's a few guys.

[C]

Yeah, Yan's brought up a good point. It's kind of like Posternach. He does the silly suits, but maybe not necessarily the silliest of outfits, like where it's just like regular street clothes. So I, I think that there is a little bit of like a difference. Right?

[B]

Yeah, I mean the players got that now and they can do what they want.

[D]

And geez, find the Clayton Keller one. That one was way worse than Neela.

[F]

The puffy jacket.

[D]

He had puffy jacket. Then he had these knee pads. Like, I was like, what the hell is this?

[C]

That's how you get more.

[D]

Maybe you'll like this biz. But I was like, I don't know, man, you're in Utah. That may not fly.

[C]

Okay, well, why don't we. So we're introducing a new segment where we're just bringing up all these silly outfits that these Guys are wearing, some of which we'll like, some of which we're gonna obviously carve. Can we. Can we bring up a few more? Okay, this is someone from Utah, right? What's the guy's name?

[F]

He's got a book in his hand. Is that a book?

[C]

Yeah, it's the Bible.

[D]

That's like Lebron saying, this is my favorite book. But he couldn't name one part of the book. I think the jacket and the shirt are nice. The jeans a little baggy, but I think that's in. That's Dimitri Shimashev.

[B]

Shimashev. Yeah. He's a big kid.

[A]

He.

[C]

He looks like. What's the. What's the movie where they. They got a detention on the weekend?

[D]

Breakfast Club.

[C]

It looks like he's an extra in Breakfast.

[D]

I like that.

[C]

That's what I'm seeing.

[F]

And he's got the book too.

[D]

Yeah, you're right.

[G]

He's.

[B]

He's six, seven. He's a big man. Six, six, six, seven.

[D]

And hey, he can move too. That guy's nice.

[B]

Yeah, he's a lot of.

[C]

Is that one of the two Russians that they grabbed early in the first round where people were a little surprised?

[B]

Yeah, he was the first, though.

[C]

Okay. Oh, that's a suit. I think that looks great.

[F]

Yeah, suits are fine. I think get crazy with the suit.

[C]

So this is. This is Lamborghini for the Calgary Flames. He's got the bolo tie. He's got the three piece. It looks like it's Calgary Flames red. And what do you make of the donor? Would you do this? The. The. No socks in Canada.

[B]

It's a tough go, but maybe if you're down south, you can get away with it.

[C]

That's all you got? You got nothing else? The polo tie. You used to wear those Sunday church.

[B]

I'm not weighing in on any of this. I'm going to stay on the outside just smiling.

[C]

Okay. You could just smile there. Maybe we'll bring up a couple more. And what's he got on his hat there?

[D]

Now he wears 92, so maybe the cards are backwards or 29 was the number he wanted. I don't mind this. Now let's. Let's get ahead of this too. At least for myself, I have the worst style in the. I mean, I'm wearing sweatpants. I'm wearing what Strudwick used to call a leisure suit every day. So I. Chirping these guys, if I'm going to chirp is a little unfair considering, like, my sweatpants have stains on Them right now.

[C]

Yeah. Donor, you're the best, man. We love you. Hey, I'm really happy for you, your family and Josh and the way that he's been able to transition over to Buffalo. He looks awesome. And continued success. And go. Leaves. Go, baby.

[F]

And shout out. And shout out Andrea for really the one taking Josh everywhere. Because obviously you were playing for the majority of his life, actually his whole life. Shout out Andrea.

[B]

Yes. Andrea did everything, so I was lucky. So.

[C]

And the fact that she's bringing the Coyotes back to the desert. She's part of the ownership group. Can I throw some in, too?

[B]

Yeah, you're in.

[E]

Sure.

[D]

Gary would love that.

[F]

All right.

[C]

Donor, we saw, you know, stole ours with some comments to the team. Dustin Wolf, I think it was last night, a little frustrated. I think they only had nine goals in their first seven games. What do you make of goalies, you know, kind of calling out the team a little bit and. Or should goalies just shut the fuck up and stop the puck?

[D]

Well, okay, now, I think that's probably a pretty common response from players when goalies call teams out. The Dustin Wolf one Wednesday night. It's like, I, this guy's. He's played fine, right? Like, he had an incredible year last year, completely carried the team. He's gonna probably have to carry them again this year if they have any chance of doing anything. They've done nothing. Biz already mentioned nine goals in seven games, but still, second year in the league. I understand the frustration he's having, but I don't need to hear my goalie saying, like, I can't, I can't produce offense. Like, it's almost the way you word it a little bit, right? Like, Stolars was, was kind of calling out effort and things like that. Wolf's was a little worse. It's like, I, I, I can't score goals. Like, it's like, all right, well, we're all trying to, to, to score goals here. Like, there's no. I. Maybe Flames fans would tell me I'm wrong. It's not lack of effort. There's not a huge skill, high skill level on that team. And so to hear the goalie, like, mention like, well, the one thing we're struggling at, I, I have nothing to do with that.

[C]

I had my guy.

[D]

I had my guy. The old. I had my guy.

[F]

That game with. They had 37 shots on net, so it's not like they got some opportunities. I would have been okay because a lot of the chances against were breakaways, two on ones, high, high Danger area. I would have been okay if he said stuff like that. But they had 37 shots on net. They're trying to create offense. And him saying I can't score goals is just crazy because like I said with that little rant about donor, guys are blocking shots left and right. Guys are trying to get in lanes to help the goalies out. Like, I just think going about it that way is not the right way.

[D]

But seven games into the season, too true.

[F]

But since when? I don't even remember goalies getting doing interview scrums. I feel like they never even asked them.

[D]

I know. Usually they're like, no.

[F]

It could have been the goalies being like, hey, I want the mic.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Guys, bring it over here.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Everybody gather around. Yeah. Stop talking to him. He ain't scoring goals for us.

[D]

We talked quickly about, tell that guy.

[C]

To go work on a shot. I got this one.

[D]

We talked about shape. Incredible. He tied Marik Sidlicki's record for six games to start your career in the NHL with a point as a defenseman. Would be shocked if he doesn't break that next game. He's. He's the best player on the Islanders right now. Like, I know that sounds crazy, and maybe there are Canadian hockey fans out there thinking that I'm nuts for saying I could see him making the team. This. This level would have to continue until Christmas time when the teams will probably be picked. And if it. If it has, I will be very surprised if he's not on the team. I. I don't know who would lose a spot. But it's. It's. It's incredible watching this kid out there. Like, he. He's had plays that have resulted in no goals. Four that are also like, out of this world. Spinoramas, tight turns. Great. No, look, passing and donor said it best. The. The.

[C]

The joy.

[D]

The joy, dude.

[C]

The passion for.

[D]

For a kid who's lost his mom and then, like, you know how much he appreciates this.

[A]

It's.

[D]

It's awesome to see. Awesome for the league and, and for a fan base that I've battled with forever. I'm very happy for them.

[C]

No, I agree bang on. Like, not only just the. The playing ability, but when you get interviewed post game and listen, like the Islanders and.

[A]

And.

[C]

And playing there, like, it could easily be knocked in a place of like, oh, I would have rather have gone to la, Would have gone to here, would have rather have gone to there. But for him to like, to like, go up to the mic and say, I Love being a New York Islander and like, you know, tell the fans and, And. And express how joyful he is to be a part of that organization. I just think, like, there's no more important pick they could have got than not only his playing ability, but also his now his love for playing there. So it's completely rejuvenated the fan base. Like going back to the last few seasons. Like, the building was half empty, it was dead, it was soulless, it was lifeless. They just built this new place at the Belmont. And now there's a reason to show up, because you have this young kid who's got so much life that he's injecting into the team and he's doing so as. As the youngest player in the league. So it's remarkable. And like, shout out to him for just like voicing that and not holding back and showing his love and appreciation for the place that gave him an opportunity. So it's a fucking. It's a good time to be an Islanders fan.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

That's the last time we said that.

[F]

Also, too wit Zidlicky was 26 years old, I think, when he came over here. Like, so he's 18 years old. Like, to be doing Zidlick, he had played pro for a long time. So to do this at 18.

[A]

And.

[F]

And like you guys said, like, you can see the joy he's bringing to other players. Like Barzell looks like he's having, like Paul Mary. These guys look like they're just having so much fun. And it probably has to do with the. The arena is more lively. People are wanting to come to the games just to see this kid, right? Like, if he's on tv, you're putting it on.

[D]

It changes. We said it previews. A1 player can completely change an organization. And that's why hitting on a home run on the first overall pick, it's like there's Rangers fans right now talking about the frontier that are like, this is not it. This is not a first overall pick. Is that fair? Maybe not, but I see their point. Seeing the Islanders, you know, and this kid who's just brought this life and energy, it's amazing. But biz, with Detroit playing last night, you covering the game, you're. You're back going after Red Wings fans, and this happened.

[F]

He got a cease and desist.

[C]

Well, bring it. Like, what. What are you talking about? Which part are you talking about?

[D]

I don't know. It was on the outline. G mentioning that biz calling Red Wings fans babies.

[C]

I did.

[D]

Because you snapped A couple weeks ago, I didn't snap.

[C]

I'm just telling them. It's like, if you're gonna criticize me, be at least be accurate with what the you're talking about.

[D]

Oh, I see what you said. You deserve to give that guy for sure.

[C]

Because, because I was given Emmett Finney praise, I did a breakdown of how I like his play away from the puck. And even after I did that and glazed them, I got that guy saying that and then I got another guy being like, oh, like that wasn't even that impressive of a clip. It's just like, what do you mean it wasn't that impressive of a clip?

[D]

He's a, he doesn't know that guy.

[C]

He doesn't know puck. All right? And the clip that I broke down was the, the play was in the offensive zone. Right?

[D]

Okay.

[C]

They're playing against Florida. So the puck comes out of the zone. So they got to regroup. Well, he's a left winger, right? This is a, this is a 20 year old kid. So Larkin's the centerman on that line. But Larkin's about probably, I would say, 5 to 10ft down, deeper in the ozone. So Finney recognizes that I got to get out and play center to be a safety valve for my defenseman if they need to headman the puck up. So he ends up sprinting out of the zone as, and acting as a centerman. Well, Marit Cider has it on the right side, so he comes to the middle of the ice and he presents his stick for him as an option and he gets in the lane where he could. The lane was a little tight. So Cider decides, I'm not going to try to seam this through and turn this over. I'm just going to go D to D to Sherrod. And it also gives Appleton and Larkin were the other two guys in the ice. Appleton had to jump up on the first line because that was when Lucas Raymond was out of the lineup. So when they go D to D, Finney still acting as the centerman. This is a 20 year old kid, played fucking four, four games in the National League. He goes low and slow. He gets below the red line so he can create separation from the guy who's above him as the checker. He gives now Sherrod his backhand and he's got about a 5 to 8 foot cushion on that guy breathing down his neck. He presents his blade on the backhand, Sherratt fires it up and he just redirects it so they can go back north. And now at that point, Appleton and his centerman Larkin have tagged up. And obviously Larkin's smart enough to realize I'm now playing the left wing because Finney, the first guy out of the zone, took my position. So it goes in. Appleton gets first guy on the forecheck. It ends up getting rimmed around to the weak side. Well, Finney from covering and, and redirecting, he's the third guy in the zone. So he noticed Cider ends up going a pinch because he's closer to that puck now along the wall. Well, what's.

[D]

Tell me he covered him on D.

[C]

Tell me he covers him. He covers him on D. I know on. That's what I'm saying.

[D]

Coaches were probably imagine not liking that clip. Imagine saying you're a hockey fan and not appreciating that details of that clip.

[C]

And it was a bit of a broken play off the pinch. He stays patient on the line. It comes to him, he fucking gets it on his backhand as a bobbling puck. And he makes sure it gets deep in the zone. Well, then it's a 50, 50 battle with the guy deepest in the zone. He holds position, sees cider, comes back, then he acts as the F3. Then they get Detroit, gets possession.

[A]

And.

[C]

And when he realizes that, he knows that there's no one in front of the net and he makes a beeline. So he goes from being the safety valve for Cider as the demon to now being the net front on the screen for Bobrovsky, where Appleton ends up getting the one, the one T pass and it's in the back of the net. So then he's saying, oh, tweets at me. Oh, you're first. You're shitting on us. Now you're going to glaze us. It's like, my God, shut the fuck up. I've had enough with these goddamn Detroit Red Wings fans. You know what that is? Last night, losing to the Buffalo Sabres. That's called karma. That's what that's called. Now get off my dick.

[B]

Fair.

[D]

Get off his dick, folks. Get off his dick.

[C]

I'm done glazing you Red Wings fans.

[D]

I also want to. I want to. I want to bring this over. Biz, it pains me to say, because this guy is so fucking cocky right now, but Posha's Devils and in the discussion of first overall picks who could change the franchise, like they are humming, Jack Hughes looks incredible. And I'm starting to get worried a little bit about how good of a team the Devils actually have when healthy. I think we said that it was all about health and it remains the same. But I see that line with Carter. Who else is on that line with them? Look that up for me quick.

[C]

Oh, Pasha is going to tell you. Look at this guy puffing his fucking chest out.

[F]

Run the disclaimer warning.

[G]

The following statements are about to be made by a deranged Devils fan. The views expressed are his and his only. Take everything you hear with a grain of salt because remember he is a deranged Devils fan.

[E]

What a beautiful way to wake up this morning seeing the Devils first place in the league.

[D]

Carter got that goal last night. Who's on that line with him?

[F]

Mercer and Brown Wit.

[D]

I was thinking of Brown too. Just driving the net. He scored against Edmonton and Mercer, who Pasha wants on the top six but maybe loves him in his role in the. In this third line.

[E]

Well, no, actually up until last night Mercer was playing second line wing with he sure. And Meyer. Cody Glass got hurt against Toronto. So Mercer slid into the 3C role last night and he excelled two primary apples. He was driving play. He looks a lot faster this year. I think last year he was a little bit slow, wasn't moving his feet. A little static on the ice. So yeah, like we talked about him two weeks ago, he's been incredible. But you know what, like I've talked about Jack, Brad, he. Sure the big dogs are the big dogs. We've given them enough praise. But I just want to shout out the penalty kill. Going up against Minnesota's number one, number one ranked power play last night. Devils go three for three. They've now killed off 21 straight penalties. Last year they were first in the league in the combined PK plus power play percentage that has now continued into this year. They're still number one in that. So just really impressive penalty killing. And you know part of that comes down to certain guys. Like a guy like Brendan Dillon. I want to shout out back to back goals, back to back game winning goals. Yep. After having neck surgery. He had the ical surgery in the summertime. Freak injury in the playoffs. There was rumors he was never going to play again. But he had that icle neck surgery and he's looked great this year. He also looks faster. Him and Nemetz have been that third pair and yeah, I mean back to back game winning goals like from a third pairing D man, you know that's. That's nice contributions. So you know he's been the big part of it and I think the goal setting too. You know, Markstrom gets hurt what, three, four games in everyone's like, oh, here we go again. Jake Allen's been rock solid and then last night Nico Dawes rock solid. So there's a lot of people other than the top dogs contributing are sending.

[D]

That's a good. That's a good team. That is what any good team has.

[C]

I'm still shocked at what he Allen signed for as far as an extension. Is he only making like a deal? A million and a half per year?

[E]

Yeah, but it was like six years or something. It was like a really weirdly structured deal but like great for the capit.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Quickly when playing, I remember that when you talked about the power play percentage and the PK like both being so important. A lot of teams talked about you want to be at a hundred %. So or 105. If we can get 80, 85% on the penalty kill and 20% on the power play. That's a great special teams team. They Devils right Now are at 135% so they get the second best PK and the second best play that can actually carry you to winning a division. Right. So like that. That's elite right there.

[F]

Big thing I saw too. And like it's little things you see with good teams is just being Face off ready. Like their first goal last game against mini Face off ready. Connor Brown or Brown takes it to the net. Cotter scores and then. And then Grits you gets his first one. Just being ready off of Face off shooting quick.

[E]

Yeah, that's a great point. And you go back to when they beat the Oilers the other night, which wit actually just completely glossed over. Didn't even mention on the last pod, funny enough. But Jesper Brat right off the Face off on the power play like three seconds into the power play, same thing. So that's actually a really good point. They have a lot of goals this year have come directly off of, you know, Face off ready plays. Good to know you've been watching hands.

[D]

I love that the Devils are a really good team right now. And Jack Hughes, I think he's maybe. And this probably isn't on his mind, but I think ESPN Pasha, I saw a clip of you saying had him the 34th best player in the league. Maybe one of those like Jordan memes. I took that personal. I don't know if that was Jordan in that meme, but that could be part of this. And if he stays healthy, it'll be 100 points. It'll just be one year too late for you.

[C]

Where do you got him? Where do you got him on the rankings. Les Pasha one.

[E]

I mean, there's always. There's always like the health thing, but, like, you know, a healthy Jack Hughes. I put them in the 5 to 8 range.

[C]

I think that's.

[D]

What. Are we including defensemen?

[C]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I. If we're including all players, like, I think that's crazy.

[D]

I. I'd go top 15.

[C]

That's fair.

[D]

But this is a deranged Devils fan. I mean, Pasha thinks He's better than McDavid. He just won't. I'm not kidding.

[C]

Oh, no, no, no. Is he better than Crosby.

[F]

Today?

[E]

He is, yeah. What?

[G]

Crazy.

[E]

I didn't. I'm not saying, bro, you're talking about a guy today.

[C]

Today, buddy.

[E]

Who are you picking?

[B]

Jack?

[E]

Did you watch Four nations tonight?

[C]

Why. Why am. Why are we paying to bring you to the Four nations tournament if you're not going to fucking watch?

[E]

You want to go?

[C]

It's on best. It's not even.

[D]

He was wrecked all. All weekend in Montreal. That's where he lost me the money from the. The meme coins thing too.

[C]

That's right. He lost. How much you lose you.

[D]

30 grand, I think it was. So he. He came to Four Nations. This is what he did. He lost me 30 grand. He got crippled for three nights and. And decided that Hughes is better than Crosby. What a trip, Pasha.

[F]

And he brought his girlfriend on the trip.

[C]

No, he didn't.

[D]

Yeah, he did.

[C]

No, he did.

[F]

They were in the. They were in the presidential suite. I swear. I talked to Dave.

[D]

She got to fly first class, too.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Oh, my God. Get this guy off the screen.

[C]

I. Somebody. Did somebody write or send the tweet of one of the deranged Devils fans saying that Nico, he sure is the best two way center the league has seen since Patrice Bergeron.

[D]

Yeah, and I had tweets written back to the guy, but I was like, I'm not getting involved. Like, he literally wrote a tweet pretending that Barkov was never born.

[F]

Or Kopitar.

[D]

Yeah. Like, I was like, this guy. And then there was another Devils fan saying that Hughes is the number three player in the league when healthy after McDavid and McKinnon. So these people, they're crazy, dude. They're a bunch of David Putties. You remember David Putty and Seinfeld. Gotta support the team Devils. They're nuts. So we can move on from them biz. Monday night, Amazon Prime. I believe it's Ottawa, Boston. Two teams.

[C]

Boston had a good start, but what did they Drop five or six straight now, buddy.

[D]

I watched them in the Marshawn return game. Let's actually start with Marshawn there. What an. The fact that his first ever game for The Bruins was 16 years to the day of his return as a Florida Panthers. That's the stuff you can't biz.

[F]

Thought they did it on purpose, remember?

[C]

Okay, so I don't think that's the dumbest thing to.

[D]

I don't think it's the dumbest thing you've ever said. I think it's a little dumb.

[F]

Did you tweet that he's. That Jack Hughes is a top three player? Then it's you.

[C]

You think that there's no chance that they correlated that?

[F]

No chance.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Just because it's so like I don't even know if they know the day he played for the Bruins in 2009. So.

[C]

Okay, all right, I'm a. I'll eat it.

[D]

But the video was awesome. The Bruins, the fans, I mean, he hopped on the ice for warm up. So that's 6:30. A lot of people aren't coming into a puck drop. There was a, a big pop then. And then the video form he mentioned after, he didn't get emotional until they showed his kids on the screen. Imagine that's kind of hard hitting. And then even the way he spoke after, like even before he mentioned the best part of Boston's the fans, after he talked about he really didn't blame the Bruins. Like he kind of made it clear like you don't have a right or you shouldn't be mad at the management for trading me. The way it all went down was just a crazy story that only he and Don Sweeney really know the. The truth about. And then also he even I think brought up the fact that he could see himself working for the Bruins someday. Maybe I made that up. I thought I saw that.

[C]

But.

[D]

Any takeaways Biz, besides just a special night for the guy?

[C]

No, just like. Yeah. He's such a. Like he's so self aware and, and, and so good at evaluating every situation. Right. And like really thinking about it and processing it. He did say, I think there's things that both sides would have done differently and when reflecting on it and I don't know if that was maybe him thinking at the time, you know, I've. He valued himself at a certain dollar amount where maybe as it was the trade was going down and before they'd won and he went to Florida and had success, maybe thinking, hey, could I have taken less and stuck around and been a Bruin for life. But as he mentioned in that, in that interview question, he's like, it all worked out the way that it should have and that the move ended up creating for him. Yeah, but, but also, it's probably got to feel good for Bruins fans, like, to some degree, seeing a guy that, that gave as much time and energy to your organization, who's a guy who will one day be lifted to the rafters there. I believe Granelli's writing in the chat. It feels awful. Like, I, I get that feeling, too, but we clearly know that, that they're in a rebuild situation and they're, they're not going to be making playoffs, at least in my opinion, for years to come until they get better. Where they got to give a guy who gave as much as he did an opportunity to go win another Stanley cup and as he pointed out, like, get to enjoy memories and moments that'll last a lifetime for him. So as much as it sucks, I'm sure it was just an awesome night for him to return. And we're going to be talking to the rear later as he comes on. And I'm sure he was in attendance for it all, so, you know, he was, he was one of the guys who got to watch him play for all those years. And I've been saying it for probably about, I would say five to six years. And I think five, six years ago, people were like, I don't know, man. I don't think, I don't think he's a Hall of Famer. Like, I think it's undoubtedly that he is at this point a Hall of Fame player.

[D]

That finals might have got him into the hall of Fame. He was that dominant.

[C]

Maybe. But even before that, like, all those, like, for, for a decade with the Bruins, like, tell me a more clutch, reliable winger that was able to sustain it for that period of time. There's not many guys who do that.

[D]

If you're a real Bruins fan, you're. You were rooting for him to win the stand the cup, correct?

[C]

I think exactly, exactly.

[D]

Say otherwise.

[F]

And I think that's why Bruins fans love him, is because he, he wasn't given anything.

[D]

Right.

[F]

He came in as a fourth line guy, earned everything that he had. Really.

[D]

He was on your fourth line in Moncton when you went to the Memorial Cup Final. Yeah, he's always had to earn it.

[F]

Yeah, he's earned everything. And, and it, it is funny how during the video, you know, he's choked up and then when they show his family and Then him at the hospital with like other players. You could tell. That's when it really hit him.

[D]

That's. I can't even imagine that. Went back to Pittsburgh after like four years where I was good for one of them and I was kind of like, oh my God, like, this is weird. This is hard. So it's times a million for a guy won a cup, there was a star player there, always took a discount. And then to see like where his kids are born and all that. It was, it was cool. That's. Hey, I've chirped some. Some videos given to players on their return. That is obviously not the case in this episode.

[A]

Warranted.

[D]

So in terms of Boston, they're horrible, horrible, horrible. I saw Grinelli put a tweet out this morning retweeting someone of the forward lineup for the Bruins tonight against Anaheim. It's got to be one of the worst forward lineups in the league and that's with Posternach like a top. Oh, sorry, sorry. Pasha a top five player in the league in my mind. I know he's not Jack Hughes, but they're bad. And Ottawa, luckily Shane Pinto. I know they're playing Monday. Shane Pinto's carried that team. Brady gave a press conference, said this surgery is a bump in the road, so they just need to hold, hold, hold serve here for a little bit till he comes back. But not really excited to see Boston play at all. That bad.

[C]

No, that's good. I mean, maybe not for Monday night prime hockey, but still tune into the game.

[D]

Tune into.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I mean, hey, listen, it's on a Canadian broadcast, right? So if you want to see an Ottawa win, watch them pump the Boston Bruins who stink.

[D]

And quickly, before we throw it over to coop biz. Two teams I kind of want to shout out. Pittsburgh Penguins surprising 5 and 2. Start this Brazo. He's got five goals. So maybe this isn't a fluke. The X factor G was just late couple of years on that. And the Seattle Kraken, both those teams we shit on in the previews, they've both looked very good, surprisingly. So let's see if that continue. But it is a long year, so we'll see.

[C]

And before we throw at the coop we, we. We kind of glanced over because we brought on donor was just the Toronto Blue Jays. I mean, obviously they're heading into the World Series. Like I'm not the, the biggest baseball fan and I'm not just all of a sudden pretend like I was watching every Jays game but couldn't Be more proud of them and what they've been able to accomplish. That Seattle series was probably one of the most iconic baseball series in a long time. Just the swings. Toronto going down.02, especially when they started off at home, going to rattle two wins off there. Then they lose game five, win game six, and then obviously pull it out in. In game seven. So all the Vladdy stuff that Springer. I mean, talk about a more clutch, clutch player over the last, what, seven years?

[F]

Gloves Biz. His gloves I was telling you about.

[C]

Yeah, he's got the Hartford Whalers. He grew up a Hartford Whalers fan, and I guess he's going to be donating those gloves to Hockey hall of Fame after this is all said and done. So let's hope it's with a World Series, because this would be the biggest. So too, this would be the biggest upset, probably. When's there been a final that's been this big of a spread as far as the gambling spread? I mean, it's had to have been a long time because, yeah, you're talking about the. The greatest baseball player who's ever lived probably surpassed Babe Ruth, but with what he's doing now, right?

[D]

Oh, he surpassed everyone. I don't think there's a. An athlete who's ever performed in one game like he did in game four of the NLCS. He hit three home runs and struck out 10 people. That is straight like Steve Nebraska. Anyone seen that movie? You guys know that movie? I believe it's called the Scout. Who's the. Brendan Frazier. Brendan Frazier plays this super prospect. And it's like the part of the movie that people chirped is like, this is so stupid. Nobody would ever be able to hit home runs and pitch. It's like, no. Shohei Ohtani is truly the best at his sport. Better at his sport than anyone else. I said that about McDavid for a while. Ohtani's the guy. Also, Grinelli puts in here. Biggest odds in over 20 years for a World Series biz. You were bang on there.

[F]

It'd be like a goalie being able to play. It'd be like a player being able to play goalie and then score 35.

[C]

Dustin Wolf's gonna try it after his comment. Yeah, he's gonna have to do that.

[F]

Hey, here's a. Here's a stick. Dustin, good luck running the half wall.

[D]

In his pads and then, like, sprinting back for a shorthanded chance.

[F]

Goldberg.

[D]

Yeah, you're right. Goldberg, the goalie. Knuckle puck time, I think.

[C]

I believe the last Time a goalie ever got a penalty. But there's a rule you, if you're the goalie, you can't touch the puck past center ice. And it was Patty Waugh who was fed up with his team in the way that they were going up the ice with it. And he took matters into his own hands and I don't even think he knew the rule. So as he skated up the ice and he touched the puck across center ice, they blew it down and gave him a penalty. Don't know exactly what the penalties called, but why can't goalies go up the ice? That should be a thing.

[D]

I agree.

[F]

Then you can be able to hit them.

[C]

I think once they pass center ice though, it should be open season. Yes, that should be an NHL Soccer.

[F]

Soccer. The goalies can go up right with yes, yes.

[D]

Yeah, they'll come up trying to get maybe a corner kick late in the game. Goalies also can't serve penalties in the penalty box unless you're playing for Brian Yandel. Everyone remembers the kill. Frankie getting the fucking ball.

[C]

Frankie.

[D]

And the ref didn't know what to do. And next thing you know, Frankie the goalie is sitting in the penalty box.

[C]

So I would also say that that Springer home run has surpassed Joey Batslip. Joey Bats, right. You're going now going to the World Series. Still the biggest one in Toronto. Joe Carter. That ended it all right. That was the jumping. Was that a walk off?

[D]

Mitch Wild Thing Williams, the lefty pitcher who was like a real life Charlie Sheen in Major League. I don't know if he was ever in prison, but it was the long hair, wildness, gas throwing release.

[F]

He was like John Crook but a pitcher.

[D]

Yeah, John Crook was on that team.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And. And it's so rare because you got. Well, I guess it could happen in basketball too. And it did. Right? The Raptors, the only Canadian franchise for basketball where it's like that in the MLB with the Blue Jays. Right. So you have a whole country behind you and even people who are from Vancouver and probably tend to root for the Mariners as opposed to the Blue Jays. You have to imagine they are now rooting for the Blue Jays where in Canada in hockey. The fucking Calgary Flames don't give a flying fuck if the Edmonton Oilers left.

[D]

No, they don't want them to win.

[C]

They don't want them to.

[D]

It's not just Canada. Like I don't see anywhere in the world besides the city of Los Angeles rooting for the Dodgers. Like there's discussions that this could save baseball next Year baseball could. That could be the last year we. Last year we see baseball played for quite a while. It sounds like it's the same thing that canceled an NHL season. They. The owners want a cap. The players are like, no cap. No cap. It's like, buddy, we've been through this. There's going to be a cap. The billionaires don't lose. So if the Dodgers win, it's definitely going to happen. And if the Blue Jays win, maybe there's a chance that other teams are like, all right, other. You don't just have to defender.

[C]

Yeah, but you were saying that we talked the other day. You're like the. Originally when. When they. They wanted a hard cap on the NHL, we didn't take the original offer. And then the offer that we ended up taking was far worse because not only do the billionaires always win because they can hold out as long as they want, the more money they make, they miss out on over the course of the holdout, they're going to keep clawing it back and clawing it back. So be smart about if you get a solid first offer, don't just scoff at it. Figure out a way to work with it. That's. That would be. Is our advice.

[D]

Not only was the cap lower than I believe they first offered in the NHL when this. When the game came back, they also took 24% of everyone's contract. So you might, based on us living through this, you might just honestly want to take their first offer. It sounds crazy, but the billionaires don't lose. And with that, we could throw it over to a guy who's a great friend of the show, an amazing coach, and a great friend to raise. So he'll probably discuss that. Not a great start for the Lightning. Kind of stayed away from that for a little bit. Talked a lot about Team Canada and John Cooper summer overall. So right now, I'm going to throw it over to the Tampa Bay Lightning head coach, John Cooper. Guys, whit here. I want to talk about Jackpocket. Our partners at Jackpocket make ordering lottery tickets ridiculously easy. Mega Millions, Powerball, state lottery games, and even scratch off tickets all on your phone. Millions of dollars are up for grabs each day. And right now, with mega Millions on the rise, new Jackpocket customers can get $5 in free lottery credits. Just sign up for jackpocket using code PUCK2 and click opt in to redeem. That's it. Download jackpocket, America's number one lottery app. Use the code puck to click opt in and start ordering today.

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[D]

Joined now by the Tampa Bay Lightning head coach and Team Canada head coach, our good friend John Cooper. Coop, what's going on buddy?

[G]

Oh, gosh, it's awesome to see you boys. It means hockey's back. It's. It's been quite an eventful preseason and early part of the season, but it's, it's. It's great to be back.

[C]

Don't worry, we'll, we'll overreact for other teams. We're not overreacting.

[D]

Actually, something we were talking about, about early season stuff today was that, do you find like we do, that maybe young guys get out humming a little quicker and older guys after game 20. That's what we were saying on the show today, at least that the older players takes them a little bit longer than you see some of these young rookies flying and then they taper off as this thing gets going 100%.

[G]

It's the, it's the rookie wall and they're, they're buzzing and, and you're like, wow, this is, this is unbelievable. And then all of a sudden they start hitting the wall and then the vets start taking off because I don't think. And you guys obviously know, but the grind of 82 games and being able to manage that, and I know that every fan base and everybody wants their team to go82.0 and expects everything all the time, but it's hard. It is a really hard league and you're playing back to backs and three and fours and getting in at three in the morning. And it takes so much more to manage, you know, not only that two and a half hours of a game, but the other, you know, 21 and a half hours of your life and whether you got kids or family and all these other things that go into it, it's, it's hard on the guys. And, you know, the rookies just don't quite know yet or the young guys and the vets, they know exactly what they're doing.

[C]

And your, your season kind of didn't really. It started even before training camp because you ended up going to the orientation camp as well for the Olympic team. So you were even kind of turning it on the summertime as well.

[G]

Yeah, that was, to be honest, that was a phenomenal event. And I wasn't quite sure what to expect just from, you know, our side of things. I think there was 43 players that came in and so I kind of, you know, was narrowly looking at that and what to do with the guys and it's such a, the commitment from Hockey Canada, and I'm not speaking for other countries, but, you know, being involved with them has just been phenomenal. They, they just, they do the extra 5%. It's, it's, it's really cool to be around, but, you know, with our guys, you know, it was so interesting to, to meet players I hadn't met before. You take world championships. I've coached in Four nations and some of these international events and the. And the World Cup. But there's a group of players I'd never met before. Like, I'd never been in a room with Quentin Byfield before or Evan Bouchard. I can go down a list of like 15 of the players I'd never met before. And so, you know, I'd met Tom Wilson, but I'd never, you know, sat down, you know, for 20 minutes and actually got to know the guy and just so many things. It was so beneficial in that regard for me personally to just get to know everyone that's kind of on the cusp of making this team. So in that side, it was really rewarding. But I think the most rewarding part for me was being together with the women's team and the para team and the whole orientation camp was just not the men's team. And for me, I can't say enough how educating it was for myself, our players, the men's team, and to be able to put a name with the face with the women and the para guys. And I know the pair of players won't be there at the same time. We will, but the women will be. And just to sit down, we did a golf event together, raised, I think, a half a million dollars for charity and did just some super, you know, somebody got to play with, you know, Marie Marie, Fleet Poulon and Sidney Crosby. We're in the same golf cart together. Like, seriously, that's. And. And they were so generous with their time with the kids and families, and it was really cool. And then to hear the para player stories, it is. You talk about adversity, we don't face anything of what those guys have faced. And I just thought it was so well done. And it was five phenomenal days at the end of a summer that, you know, just to get to sit down with a whole different group of, you know, athletes and listen to their stories. Like, one night, you know, we're out at this dinner and, you know, I'm sitting down with some of the girls and Sarah Nurse asked her, you know, what's your. What was the biggest game you ever played? And she went into an Olympic final and. And it was just. It was super cool, like, to hear their stories and, and just be involved with them. And so I thought it was a huge step forward for all of us, you know, before we go to Milan.

[F]

It must be cool too, because obviously, you know, our players are paid handsomely, but, you know, the women's don't get the pay that we do in the Paralympics. And so they're playing for pride, right? Like, that must be an amazing message for your group to just see the pride that those people are there for playing for their country.

[G]

There's no question. And I think it worked in the reverse for our guys because our guys were looking at the dedication that, that.

[C]

They put in and that's why McDavid took the discount.

[F]

He might not make the team.

[B]

The. But the.

[G]

But the women's team were going right into training camp. So you know, their coach is great guy and Troy Ryan, he, we were playing golf together and all the girls were needling me saying, hey, training camps coming up. Like, let him win, let him win some of the golf. So he's in a good mood. His camp comes out. But it was, it's, you know, just the dedication. And these are, you know, the, the NHL players go and, and play, you know, on TV and some of these big events. But the women, a big topic conversation too was the professional league. I was really interested to hear all, everything that's going into that, the strides that it's. They're taking. And so it's really cool for them that they're getting more and more exposure because for me personally, I think the NHL selfishly is a way better league when everybody's watching and then. And to team up with the women and what they're doing professionally, I see it nothing but a win win for everybody. And so hopefully, you know, something like that can come together in the future because a hockey fan's a hockey fan and it doesn't matter the gender who you are. You want everybody to be in this together. And like, that was one of the super cool things that came out of.

[C]

Orientation and also the competitiveness of it, like going back to the pwhl, like, you look at women's basketball and they got obviously the Caitlin Clark effect. But every time I'm watching basketball clips online, like I don't really give a about the NBA anymore. I want to see these chicks going at it.

[G]

Like, yeah, no, I'll tell you, they're honestly in the girls that I spoke to, like, they're kind of choked about, you know, they feel like some of the rules.

[D]

They want hitting.

[C]

They want hitting 100.

[D]

Yeah, we had Sarah Nurse on last year, she said the same thing. Like, I think most of the girls want it to be more physical.

[G]

No doubt. And, and they're like as competitive as, as the guys. And, and so it's, you know, hopefully that happens too, because I'm telling you that the players definitely want it kind.

[C]

Of going back to four nations with that, like Jarvis like in the room. That type of character was much needed. Much like Drew Dowdy and Brad Marshaw. Who would you say are. Is the female version of that? Like, who really like caught you off guard where. Wow, okay. This girl is just full of personality, life and very quick witted and burying teammates.

[G]

That's a tough one for me because I do, I can't, I don't want to single people out.

[C]

Okay.

[G]

They were, they were. Let me just tell you as a group, okay. And regardless of like who was sitting where and I'd go over and speak with them, there were characters everywhere and they've, they're hilarious. They got smart mouths. They're not afraid to give it back to you. And I just really enjoyed that about them. But they're super, super educated about the game and what they have to do to become the best. And the other kind of cool thing is it's like, you know, they, especially the young ones, they really look up to some of our players and it's. And that's what I thought it was great about. Our players are super gracious and loved hanging out with everybody, so. But I'll tell you, there are a lot of characters on that team.

[C]

Are they the most in awe of Crosby? Is he the kind of the guy. He's the, he's it. Yeah, he is him.

[G]

I, I think he's the goat. I think he like that guy could walk into MLB locker room and people look at him like, holy cow. He's. He's that type of guy. Which I think Poulain too is on the women's side. Like those are, I mean, of our generation. I mean they're the two goats for.

[D]

You know, Canadian hockey fans and like us. I'd love to know the preparation going into the Olympics. Is it, is it a weekly or bi weekly zoom call with you and your staff and the management? Is it once a month? Is it just when you see them in their cities, like, how will the preparation go, picking the team?

[G]

I think like Four nations was a huge step forward for us. I know, I'm sure it was for the, for the, the US Team too. I think that was a big reason everybody kept their coaching staffs together.

[D]

Yeah.

[G]

Because you have a feel for your players now for like the Seth Jarvis's who I never coached before and so you.

[B]

It's.

[G]

And, and I'm not saying who's making the team or not, but these are just players I never would have known before. And so now you have a taste. They have a taste of what we're all about. But it's, you know, the management team and, and run by Doug Armstrong. They're so dialed in of. Of their assignments and their schedule and where everybody's going. And, and that was a great thing about orientation camp because they educated us on what they're doing. We educated them on what we're doing, how it's all going to come together. You know, ironically, we do have a. We've got a zoom tomorrow with the. With all the coaches, and we're kind of, you know, detailing out what our next month's going to look like. And it's not on a. Not on a player procurement part on the coaches quite yet.

[B]

That's.

[G]

Management's looking after all that. I think when it gets down to the nitty gritty, then. Then we come in and, and say, okay, what type of players are we looking for? That's going to fit the style of play we want to play, but a little early for that, you know, two weeks in, but that will come about, you know, in the next month or two.

[F]

I was just going to ask you about the coaching staff. Do you get a say in who you want or. That's up to Army?

[G]

No, that was a collaboration. No question. I think it was easy. The thing is, like, when you go through and look at the wealth of Canadian coaches out there, there's just so many good ones and, and great ones, to be honest. And, you know, I'm pretty thankful and fortunate that was put in the position I am, that I was able to come back and coach. But, you know, it's. It's for fit of.

[B]

Of.

[G]

Of like what you're trying to accomplish, whether it's D zone or PK or power play. And you remember you're taking head coaches that are used to kind of doing everything now putting in a situation where they have, you know, an assignment. And so that was a big look for me and my. And Doug and. And who we could put in these situations. And I think, you know, with. With Pete and Butch and Talk and Misha, like, we kind of found this group of guys that all kind of complement each other but are outstanding in specific situations we need them in.

[C]

I was going to go back to that orientation. So it was in Calgary, you guys. I believe at one point you guys went up to Banff, but I caught rumblings that you got to experience your. Your first Calgary Stampede. Oh, was it before or after that orientation?

[B]

It was before.

[G]

It's so crazy. So I'm from Prince George and it's. I mean, honestly, it's not that far from Calgary. It's probably, I don't know, I'm guessing like a seven, eight hour drive. And I'd never been to Stampede and it's most famous rodeo ever. And I. And I was like, okay, I have to go at some point. So it just kind of worked out that, you know, before I was going to Idaho and two days I'm like, I'm gonna go do Stampede and went there and I was blown away at the party. I mean, that's it. Have you guys been.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Biz went for. I think he slept 10 hours, seven days.

[C]

I was conceived at the Calgary Stampede. It's in my DNA. Right.

[G]

Right on the.

[B]

The floor.

[G]

Right on the floor of cowboys.

[C]

Porter Potty. Like that viral.

[A]

The old cowboys too.

[C]

Yeah, the Porter Potty clip that just went viral.

[D]

Yeah, that was being made, I think.

[G]

I think the city completely shuts down.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

People don't work.

[D]

No.

[G]

All day, every day. And there's massive, you know, just events and outdoor events. The weather was beautiful and it was so I. I was there 48 hours and had to get out.

[C]

That's all you.

[D]

It was, oh my gosh, it's Vegas.

[C]

And you were there to. With the Four nations trophy. Right. They wanted you kind of doing like a present.

[G]

Well, that's so it's funny to ask that. No, that's not why I went. And I didn't even know it was there. Oh, we've been there. I was with my good buddy Scott Kirschke and group people. And so. And with the Hockey Canada people. And. And so it was our second night. We were leaving and we went to this. Actually, it was great. It was Brian Burke's birthday.

[D]

Everyone had their tie on, but not tied.

[G]

Oh, he's an og. I love that. Yes, exactly. He's. He's the best. So I had a blast with him. So anyway, then we were going to the tent of Cowboys, which, you know, I didn't really know what it was. I'm like, I got a tent. Okay, whatever. A couple hundred people there, I guess. And so we get. And all of a sudden there's this massive stage. We're in the back and we get brought in here and I'm like, jesus. And there's. I kind of see all the people, but it's like hundreds of people deep. So we get in there and then Scott Salmon, Hockey Canada, he whips around the corner with the Four nations thing. He Goes, hey, you're gonna walk that out on stage? I'm like, no, I'm not. Not a church.

[D]

I'm not working Scott.

[G]

He goes, oh, yes, you are. And so after a little bit of encouragement, I'm like, okay. And then all of a sudden, you hear the announcement. They walk out there and there's 20, 000 people.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[G]

Going nuts.

[C]

That's awesome.

[G]

It was. It was super cool. And I. I was, like, blown away. I didn't even know what to do with it. And so we walked it out there, and somebody threw a cowboy hat on my head and they sang the anthem. It was.

[C]

Oh, man, that's special.

[G]

It was goosebumpy. It was super cool. But Calgary, what a town. So much fun. People were so welcoming and. Yeah, yeah, they were fired up over.

[C]

That night and just kind of, like, looking ahead here. Olympic Year, obviously. Huge. I think it was Wayne who might have told me the story at Gazer. There's like, some special tournament there. And then you and Walt, and I believe it was Dougie. Dougie Wade ended up getting paired together. I'll throw the rest of the story over to you. This is.

[F]

Oh, boy.

[C]

This just sets the table, folks.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[G]

You did your homework.

[C]

Yeah, first time ever.

[G]

Okay, so there's. It's called the Bull rush, and it's the kind of the end of the year member guest up at Gazer, and it's. It's tons of fun. So Doug Waite sends me a text. He's like, hey, let's play the practice round. Like, I'm not playing the practice round. I practice round, plus all the other rounds. Like, I'll be. I'll need a massage for five straight days after that. He goes, no, you're playing. I'm like, all right, I'll play. It's Doug Waite, and he's the best. So I'm like, who are you playing with? And he tells me. He goes, I'm bringing Big Walt Tkachuk. And I'm like, no way. Okay. So then I'm bringing in Jeff Blash. So he. The funniest thing. He goes, yeah, we're gonna make this U.S. canada thing on the U.S. versus Canada. And I didn't have the heart to tell at the time. I'm like, or tell Blash. I'm like, hey, yeah, Blash, by the way, we're doing this U.S. canada thing. I know you're in America and you've coached the World Championships five times for the U.S. but you're gonna have to.

[B]

Play the Role as a Canadian versus. Versus.

[G]

So we're kind of laughing about it. Anyway, I haven't talked to, to Keith Kachuk at all before this. I. I've obviously know him, but I hadn't spoken to him. And I show up to the golf, to the practice round, and I'm fully decked out in Team Canada coronation stuff. And I'm like, where's Walt? And Walt turns the corner, like coming up to Mimi, and he is fully decked out in usa.

[D]

And we didn't.

[G]

Even talk about it. And it's actually. I've got a cool pic of it and we had the best time. I. It was so much fun. And I hate to admit it though, it came down to the 18th hole and waiter and Walt got us just.

[D]

A sign of things to come.

[C]

Give him the small ones.

[F]

That's not good too, because Walt just sucks at golf. He was just on a trip.

[C]

He's probably getting 40 shots.

[F]

He was just on a trip for a week and a half and didn't make one bird.

[C]

Cool. Hey, listen, it's just like four nations. They won the round robin game. They celebrate like they want it all. And then we get the big one, and then we get the big one. So don't worry about that, buddy. Wait till stampede next year when you got the fucking gold medal around your neck.

[G]

Oh, no, he was, he was great. Walt was great. He was. But, you know, it's. It's tough because, you know, his, his boys won a couple Stanley Cups of late. So like, there's always we, we, we give it to each other a little bit. But he, I. I'll be honest. Like, Keith Kachuk and Doug Waite might be two of the greatest human beings. And I'll tell you want to have a good laugh like Jans, you'd love playing with those, those guys because they are hilarious on the course. Hilarious.

[F]

I was at Matthew's wedding this, this summer and I was talking to Dougie Waite for like two hours. My wife finally was like, can you please leave this guy alone? He does not want to talk to you. I was over him. He's the man.

[C]

Oh, I must have missed the invite.

[F]

Yeah, Tripp Tracy was there.

[G]

I. I'm missing the trip Tracy joke, obviously.

[C]

No, no, we just had him on and I didn't realize we were talking about weddings. And he brought up the fact that he went to every single Stall Boys wedding, all four, uninvited. No.

[D]

And at Jordan's is when Jordan got traded. He got traded right after his reception at his Wedding to. To Carolina.

[C]

So his agent was there and he says, I gotta go tell him that he just got traded right after they tied the valves. Like, oh, boy.

[D]

Another reason, you know, we'd love to chat with you right now is this episode is ra's return.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So I know that there's been a lot of times that you go into Boston and you and RA meet up, watch some of the games at the Knights of Columbus.

[C]

He's a member there now. No, you laugh.

[D]

You didn't get the card. He's a member a year.

[C]

I mean, ra.

[D]

Yeah, he's got it on his desk.

[F]

That is unreal.

[D]

Signed by ra.

[C]

I mean, RA doesn't have many coaches calling him when he. When they land in Boston, saying, hey, we're going to the Knights of Columbus to watch some hockey and hang.

[F]

Ra.

[G]

First time I met him wasn't. We won the Stanley Cup. And so Derek, honestly, this is pretty much. So he snuck in Pierce the bubble on the janitor.

[F]

Pierce the bubble.

[G]

And so I didn't, you know, I just. Nori from the pod and, you know, you guys and all that stuff. But the he to me, like, he was a big. The great thing about your pod is you could talk hockey, you talk smack, and everybody knows, you know, the inners of the game and the whole thing. But R.A. was kind of the guy that, you know, he kind of directed traffic. He was a little bit of an encyclopedia in his head of whatever. But the things I loved about him was like, God damn, that's a. You know, he recommended this movie or this TV show, and I'm like, God, it was actually pretty good. So I'm like, I gotta go to Spit and Chiclets to get what I'm gonna watch on the road. And so with the party and he had. He has a relationship with Derek Alon Newsy, who was our assistant coach at the time. And great guy. And so they had something they went to, I think one was a grad assistant, one was in school at the time, wherever in an upstate New York. And he. When we're at the party and I'll just. I turn around and there's ra, like, standing right beside the Stanley cup in Tampa, Florida. I'm like, what the hell's R.A. doing here? He's just like, ah, I gotta show.

[B]

Yeah.

[G]

So. But he's. He's been phenomenal. And so when we go to Boston, I've become really good friends with Jimmy Vesey. Big Jimmy.

[F]

The best.

[G]

Yeah, the best. So he. I got tied in with him with Kelly Chase, longtime friend of mine, and they all played in Peoria together and in the St. Louis Blues organization. So I've had some really good run ins with him.

[C]

What a guy.

[G]

What a phenomenal guy VC is. And so there I. I wish I could throw the accent down, but they're like, hey, you got to come down to the Knights of Columbus. So two years ago, it's the super bowl, and we're there for the Super Bowl. And so I show up at the. At the Knights, and all the boys are like, we're going to the Knights of the Columbus for the Super Bowl, Mike. Trust me. We're going to the Knights. And we roll in there. And it was. It's right out of, like the movie, the Town.

[D]

Two dollar beers.

[G]

It is the best. And I'm telling you, I walked in there, didn't know anybody. And at one point, I think I was. I don't know, there was a. I can't remember the same night it was. But while, basically I walked out, a member paid a membership for two years. Unreal.

[B]

Yeah.

[G]

So I've got my. Yeah. I got my FOB card I carried around with me just in case I got to sneak in there.

[B]

Keep the.

[F]

Yeah, you can go in whenever you want biz.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

It's not like, oh, yeah, like, all right.

[D]

There to open it up.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Four in the morning.

[F]

It's whenever you want. The system. Yeah. I've been to about 50 weddings at the Knights of Columbus.

[C]

Do you.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

In the back.

[F]

Yeah.

[G]

Oh, yeah. I. I think even. Gosh, I think Walt's Kachuk's dad. Isn't he a member there?

[F]

Yeah, he's a member. Yep. For sure.

[G]

Oh, there's a grizzly. Like, there's a whole.

[B]

Yeah.

[G]

Crew of hockey people there. So it's. Oh, yeah. It's game on when you go in there from the.

[C]

The amount of pods you've consumed. I'm not saying you listen to everyone. Like, is there one RA moment sticked out the most once you're like, maybe you text them after you listen to it, like, what's your favorite stuff about RA that just gets you laughing?

[G]

So RA is a. He's passionate. And so when you get into. It's hard to say on the pod because everybody, you know, Pete kind of delivers to you guys, and you guys kind of do all the chirping and then he chimes in every once in a while. But he's pretty passionate at his. At times about his politics, but he's really passionate about.

[C]

About.

[G]

I would sit Here and say wagering is a big.

[D]

That's a good way to put it.

[B]

Yeah, he's really wagering.

[G]

You can really push him each way. It's hilarious. And. But yeah, no, his just his whole. Like, I said that every time anytime I'm stuck, I'm like, I need a show. And I just text him and he. He rolls one out for me. I'm like, oh, my God, it was so good.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[G]

Well, he's also a star.

[C]

Exactly, exactly.

[G]

Yeah, so he always throws that one in.

[C]

He'll be pumped to hear your voice and like, we're excited to have him back. It's been a. It's been a long time and I know that if you guys win, you'll be okay with him on the. On the ice with the dog choke poker on his neck, asking your players questions. Right? You'll be okay. You'll. You'll give it the thumbs up for that for your third one.

[F]

No promises.

[G]

Yeah.

[D]

He'Ll wear it for another one.

[G]

Yeah, we're not a player biz.

[C]

Yeah. Okay, well, I don't. But switching topics, so going back to. To Gazer and maybe any fun Wayne stories from the summer. Anything else as far as you got your downtime? Because that's important too, man. You've been coaching as long as you have, and I don't think people realize the amount of video you're watching, the amount of stress that you guys take on, the fact now that you had to worry about Four nations last year. You're coming off that now all of a sudden orientation camp, where, man, you have the weight of the country on your shoulders now all of a sudden, you and the rest of the guys and it's divvied up. But you know what, what did you do and get done in your off time that really brought you joy and laughs.

[G]

You talking about. I mean, this should be the Goats podcast that we're talking about him while he is. He's the guy, like, even I don't know what show I was watching last night. And, you know, there's just a Wayne Gretzky reference there. It's a. Like a drama about nothing. And, and that's, you know, when you're mainstream. But Gretz is. He is a phenomenal human being. I. I don't know if there's a greater face for hockey than that guy. And I'll tell you one time, though, he kind of screwed me up, so I brought the whole staff there and. And so we had the coaching staff. We're gonna do our Meetings. And so we're. I've got all the guys. We're like, all right, we're gonna go 9 o'.

[A]

Clock.

[G]

We'll meet from 9 to noon, and then we'll, whatever hit the. We'll go out in the lake and go on the boat and do whatever. Guy's like, okay, we're. We're set. So, about to start at 9. Gretz walks in the house at like 8:30 in the morning or 8:45.

[D]

And I'm like, story time.

[G]

What are you doing? He's like, I thought I'd come and see the boys. Half the guys don't even know him. I'm like, oh, no, no. Because I know how this is going to go. Because there's no better gifted storyteller than Wayne Gretzky. So the guys all roll in and, and they're like, oh, my God. Like, they look at him and every, you know, like, they freeze. And he's like, hey, come in, boys. Nine turns to 10. 10 turns to 11. 11 turns to 11:45. Now I am like, I. I can't do it. Like, I can't tell Wayne Gretzky he has to go, but I have to tell him he's got to go. Like, we have to do.

[B]

Do.

[G]

So I kind of like, look, I'm like, hey, you know, at some point here, like, I know we got to do some work. Regrets, like, oh, man, I didn't. No problem. It was two hours and like 45 minutes, he says, shakes everybody's hand, leaves. All the guys are like, that might have been the greatest 2 hours and 45 minutes of my life. Like, everybody was. So now I'm like, well, now I'm the bad guy. So now I've gone from good guy to bad guy.

[D]

Let's go over our practice plans, guys.

[G]

Yeah, so now we're about to go. And this is like, I've been up in Gaza for seven and a half years. Not once in seven and a half years has the power ever gone out, ever. We get five minutes in and the power on the entire place.

[A]

The island.

[D]

Cut the. Cut the core. He's like, I gotta finish these.

[F]

Truly believe.

[C]

I truly believe. Oh, yeah, you want to cut me off? There goes your power.

[G]

So he. And so I'll basically had to call him and be like, hey, you guys going on the boat?

[B]

Because we need to go.

[G]

And so we all went out in.

[D]

The boat after that.

[G]

It was, it was, it was phenomenal.

[D]

But he just remembers everything. I don't, I don't get it to like, a. Details the time of the game in 1989, when it's just, like, wild.

[C]

That same with baseball, too, which is even crazier. You can do it with two sports. Like, he loves baseball, too, but hockey, it's. It's insane. Like, he. He'll tell you stories where you're like, I didn't even know that was a thing. Yeah, that one never even got out. Yeah, like, as far as, like, maybe even trajectory of, like, where the league would have went or expansion or this or that or rule changes. But, yeah, he's just fascinating to sit down and talk hockey with.

[G]

The attention to detail in his stories is remarkable. But it's. It's also like his thought about the future too. So his. The things he tells me about what he thinks, direction of the league and stuff like that, and I'm like. Like, Jesus, I never even thought of that way. And it's like, so, like, right. And smart and he. But he's like, everything's with humility. Everything. Like, even, you know, watching him, you know, Alice Ovechkin's gonna break, you know, arguably one of the greatest hockey records you can break. And he, you know, goes through that whole thing. Follow him around. The humility, the speeches he gave. I. It just. I don't know. You can't find a classier, more classier guy than that guy.

[D]

Poop. I got the rollback. Last question. Use code chiclets on rollback.com for generous 20% off your first purchase through the end of the week. C H I C L E T S on R H O-B-A C-K.com 20% off polos, hoodies and more with code Chiclets. I probably should have started this off saying, congrats on your extension. The question is more, was it you and management's decision to just kind of keep it private? It was pretty funny. All of a sudden, it. It. It hit Twitter. It was like, oh, they never even announced it.

[C]

McDavid's the second. Second biggest bargain contract in the league. Now if you didn't get it the.

[G]

First time, it's RoboK.com.

[D]

There we go. Hey, you might. You might get sponsored here. Rollback jerseys.

[C]

Next to the fanatics, the team keeps playing like this, you might be a co host on our podcast.

[D]

What a this guy is.

[G]

We can't do it.

[C]

We can't joke around. We can't have a joke that this.

[F]

Is a fun podcast.

[G]

76 more games to go.

[C]

Oh, tons.

[G]

Lots of time.

[C]

We can cut that as well there's.

[D]

Going to be a 10 game heater.

[G]

I'm telling you Chiclets pop.

[D]

But was it a decision you guys like who. Who cares I'm signed. I love it here and why do we need to tell the world that's.

[G]

Basically exactly it it's the. That is always one thing about our organization. Everything's done in house and it's a. It's the no drama club and we. We're proud of that and and like I said it's I'm so thankful of and to you know it's like fairy dust. I stepped in to. To come to this organization and they've been so good to me and you know ultimately you just want to do everything in your power to be. To give back to be so great for the organization and so it's been. It's been a really good like marriage well deserved.

[C]

You're a legend speaks volumes the guy you are too not wanting it public and stuff. You're a G D all time. Yep unreal.

[D]

Yep.

[C]

Two cups on his on his way for third and hopefully just hopefully a gold medal so I can shut these idiots.

[D]

Well we got the practice round at.

[F]

Gauzer that's true Big ups. Anytime I talk about Gazer with anyone they always mention Sean Payton.

[G]

Oh well yeah that's the NFL coach. Yeah yeah there's a crew in there up there of of just sneaky guys that that you'd never you know think of get getting to meet but then you know Sean Payton I've never that that human being want to talk about intelligent and and bright beyond his years. I see why this guy is the most coveted coach around. He is. He's brilliant and for thinker passionate but when he comes to Gazer and all you have to know is the number 36 because it's 36 holes a day rain shine no matter what gamer him gamer on the golf course has a blast and but that's another one I I find I go out of my way to find time to be around him because you walk away a better man when when you've been with him.

[C]

I love it just from the amount.

[G]

Of laughs well that too he's yeah you tell another guy that can tell stories Sean Payton tons of them and like really really good ones and but you know the ones I definitely have not heard because they're football stories or you know the what he came up in life and his you know because he's. It's a completely different sport obviously and he but his oh my God. It's. He's a beauty, that one.

[C]

Blash you mentioned. Is that how you pronounce his last name? You're so supportive of guys you used to work with. How happy are you him that he. For him, that he's had this great start in Chicago so far, and how good do you think he's going to be for that group? I mean, you've had the chance to work with him, and you've been such a big fan and supporter and friend of him for a long time.

[G]

How happy am I the fact that he's chirping me that they've got more points than us?

[B]

No.

[G]

I'll tell you, there's. It's. It's hard for me to explain because I've been with the same team for a long time, so it's, you know, I can't jump and put myself in some of these situations, but I have seen it all in the last decade and a half, and there's a lot of really, really good coaches out there, and there's a lot of really good coaches that don't get the second chance. And I think if you look at Blash's, and I've known Blash a long time, this is not the pump his tires of, you know, because we're friends. This is. This is me stepping out of my friendship circle with him. He, you know, lasted a long time in Detroit, kind of when they're in their rebuilding years, and. And then once you're a head coach, there's a lot of times you. Sometimes you don't want to become an assistant. You feel like you want that next head coaching job. And he took a step back, came with us, and we became a better staff because of him. And I think. And I will speak for him because we've talked about this. I think, you know, being around us, I think helped him in his development as a head coach, and it was a great marriage for all of us. He's a phenomenal human being, cares about his players.

[B]

He's.

[G]

He's so damn fun. And. But he's. He was ready to go back, and. And it just, you know, it hurts because you don't want to lose not only one of your best friends, but, like, he's a hell of a coach, but he deserved this opportunity, and I think he's going to do phenomenal, you know, phenomenal job there. I will not be surprised if, you know, when the Jack Adams ballot comes out in the spring, that he's not one of the guys that are going to be there. So I'm super, super happy for him. And like I said, I think Chicago will be in a better place because I got him as coach.

[D]

Thank you so much, Coop. We appreciate you coming on the best. Crazy year ahead, man. So good luck and everything. Everything will get firing here soon and we appreciate it.

[G]

Hey, thanks boys. And remember robot.com roback.com Chicklets use code chicklets Code Chiclets.

[D]

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[A]

Hello, everybody, and welcome to the debut of Ira's World. Hit on the Spitting Chiclets podcast, gang. I missed you. The guys, the fans, everybody. It's been a minute. I had a checkout for a little while. I was on the ltio with an upper body injury. I needed a timeout. The boys helped me out. Now I'm, I'm all, I haven't been this nervous before a show. I mean, we have to do Gretzky. I, I, I had to find pulse. I've been off.

[D]

Well, you told him Oats was a better pad, a better passer than him.

[A]

I didn't tell him. I asked him. And I said that 100 times on the show before that. No one challenged me. So, I don't know. It was a big deal then, but I love it.

[C]

All right, great intro. No need to be nervous, man. We're so happy to have you back.

[A]

And, and it's great, man. It's, yeah, it's like, it was like Christmas Eve, man. I, I got up early. I've been off the wall since I got up. But before we get to the fun stuff, I, I just want to do a little bit of housekeeping, you know, before we get to the good stuff first. Thanks to you guys, biz wit Dave Portnoy for allowing me to go on ltif for as long as I did. I needed a little bit of a timeout, and I, you know, happens in life, sometimes you fall in skinny knee, sometimes you fall in a ditch, and you can't get up for six months. And that, that's what happened. And you guys really helped me out. You kind of gave me the kick in the pants I needed, and I, I took a little time out and yeah, I, I was a more of a mental thing. Like I said, you guys, it was just, and then I turned the corner, man. All of a sudden, things were good. Things weren't bothering me as much, and I just, like, felt like the old goofball I was 10 years ago. Also, I want to thank the crew, G Fish, Merle's Army, Pasha, Memesy, Nick, Berta, Jeff Jacobson, and Julia for being great teammates. You guys keep the best podcast in the universe. Hockey podcast in universe. Going without all you guys, it doesn't happen. And I also want to apologize to all you gang, too, for, you know, being a up. I, I was such a bad bus driver with even the MBTA wouldn't hire me to drive one of their buses last year. It was a rough ride, so I apologize for that. I love all you guys. I made your jobs harder, was a pain in the ass. And, you know, I wasn't the teammate I pride myself to be, so I'm Sorry. And I love you guys. To the fans, same thing. I apologize for sucking at my job and not giving you guys the, the quality shows you deserve because we're nothing without with all you folks, man. You guys are all over the planet. Canada, Sweden, Australia, all over the place. That's one thing that's always amazed me. Just the, the support we get globally, it's awesome. So sorry for up, but I also thank you for the support so many of you guys. I know certain social media sites, I might be less popular than others, but I, I'll tell you, the Instagram dms, man, but that was very helpful. I mean braggadocio, but I mean every day for the last 16 months, it was, whether it was one or 10, it was people on their real names, you know, chiming in, checking in, asking and, and I couldn't get back to everybody. I, I read them all. I got back to some years and I just want to thank all the fans so much for that. Check it in. And you know, just if I was coming back, all this stuff and I would have loved to have gotten back to everybody but I, I read them all. The support was awesome and you know, I love the fans. I love you guys. So I just want to again apologize for, for off and thanking you guys for the support. Also my many friends in both hockey media and in the NHL, a lot of guys reached out. You know, like you just mentioned a few minutes ago, Coop, who was just on, you know, it's, I mean, it's funny to say like this crazy job I have like, you know, like a pals with the future hall of fame coach. It's just the weird vagaries of life. But he's been aces, man. He's a guy who's checked in on me frequently. So I, I love that guy. But you know, even media folks who I, I don't know well of DME and sent them messages and you know, the hockey world, you know, we know how good it is and that just sort of reiterated with me and of course the best friends in the world that I have and my dynamite family, you know, they've been aces through this whole thing and I just want to thank them as well. And one final thank you to Clint Milachuk. You know, this is a guy who, when we interviewed him, I, I didn't know him before we interviewed him. Two hours later, I coincidentally bumped into him in the casino and you know, he saw something in my eye, on my face. I made a comment about divorce and he just saw something was off. With me. And he. And he's like, hey. He pointed me in the chest. Hey, take your phone out. Take my number down. And it was just like, this guy, you know, just met me, doesn't know me from a hole in the wall, and he's willing and offering to help me out. And, you know, it took a couple months for me to get out there, but I went out to his ranch. It's called the Ranch Teammates for Life out in Minnesota. I went out there for a couple of weeks to come up for a little bit of air. And I just want to thank Clint. He does so much for so many veterans out there. It's a. Primarily a veteran in place. It's. They do, you know, rehab and PTSD and guys who don't have houses, stuff like that. They do so much stuff. So I do want to shout out. It's the. The ranch teammates for life.org. yeah, the ranch teammates for life.org. all one word, the top right of the screen. You can donate there if you can. I'd appreciate it. He'd appreciate it. Again, you're helping a bunch of veterans. So, Clint, I love you, brother. I'm eternally grateful for everything you did for me, and I. That's all the serious stuff.

[C]

All right, Buddy, you sound unreal, and that was incredible. Buddy, I think everybody realizes how big of a heart you have, and, Buddy, we're just so thrilled to have you. We're not here without you. You know, you're. You're the founding father of this podcast, buddy. And, you know, I'm. I'm really happy that you've gotten all the support throughout the last, you know, 14, 18 months, whatever you said, because you deserve it. And, hey, to.

[B]

To.

[C]

Let's just keep this thing going, have some fun and. And get back to your regular scheduled program.

[A]

Absolutely, man. Just look at it. Have some fun, have some laughs. And it better be the only thing I'm a father of, I'll tell you that.

[D]

All right. I'll say this. Everyone should understand how good of a guy you are.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Because I was so goddamn mad at you that if you weren't as good of a guy as you are, you would not be here. So we are thrilled to have you back, buddy. It's been a long time, and. And. And we appreciate you being back and being ready to roll.

[A]

I appreciate it as well, man. So as far as ra's World, it's. Yeah, it's a new sandbox. I'm going to be playing it every week with these guys, probably some Trial and error, maybe some hits, maybe some misses. But basically I'm gonna do a lot of off I stuff. You know, the TV and movie chatter that, you know, I used to bring on here, I think this is fair amount of the audience who misses that. So not on this episode, but next week we're gonna dive into all the good shit I watched when I was on long term injured reserve. But also we're gonna bring back the first segment we ever did on Chicklets. All right, Hamilton, for you non OGs, it's. We solicit, listen to questions, you know, and, and make a segment out of it. Hopefully you guys have some good stuff. I try to stay away from hockey questions because we do everything else is hockey here, but make them weird, make them funny and, you know, I'm gonna put out the signal in a couple days, in next couple weeks, hopefully get some good questions. And also if you have suggestions or ideas, think something you think might work, fire. Fired off, man, you know, like sometimes, I mean, that's where Pink Whitney came from. One of our listeners, hashtag Pink Whitney. And I'm surprised that mofo didn't come looking for a scalp at some point. But, you know, it's, you know, the randomness of the Internet. Some stuff can happen. So yeah, send some stuff in and off the gamble corner, that's coming back too, as well. I'll have some NFL picks, NHL picks each each week. We'll get to that in a little bit.

[C]

Ari, I got a couple questions for you. We talked about it at the start of the podcast. You've been a Bruins fan your whole life.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You were in attendance for, for Marshawn's return. Like, what did that mean to you as a fan? To just go, like, be there and experience all that. See him cry on the Jumbotron. I'll, I'll hand it over to you.

[A]

Oh, so, you know, I get the, the media credential. I'm not on the, the full list, but if I want to go to the game, the Bruins have been great to be 15 years now. I, I just, you know, send the email and yeah, you're all set, but you have to send the request 72 hours in advance. So it was Saturday and I, you know, I kind of had a few things to do. I didn't, I was like, I'm not sure if I'll be going to be able to swing it. So I didn't get the credential because I didn't. You don't want to get it and not go that's not, you know, you don't do it that way. So my mother texted me Monday. She's like, you're not going the game. She's like, I'm surprised. Then I was like, like I was like, maz, guilty guilted me into it. So I texted a game time representative, Apostol. I was like, bud, anything shaking for the game tonight? He's like, yeah, what do you need? And those boys hooked it up, man. We had third row right behind the bench. I took my cousin, by the way, shout out to my cousin Kirk, man. Growing up, he wasn't the biggest sports guy. He was a black belt in karate, believe it or not, but wasn't a typical like Boston sports guy. And because of this show, he's a die hard NHL fan. Every night he watches every game that's on. He follows the league like religiously. I mean, he's 53 years old, 55 years old, whatever. Never watched the NHL much. And now he's the a, a super fan. So I, I text him, I see you working today. He's like, yeah, what, what time till 5? I says, Uber to my house after. We're going to Bruins game tonight, you know. And he was like, are you me? I'm like, yeah. And I didn't tell him where the seats were either because I knew we're like three rows off the ice until we got in there and walked on, getting closer and getting closer and even better too. On low jt, there was no like seats in front of us. It was like a photographer's pit or a cameraman pit. So it was like being in the first row, like, you know, we were up high and you know, I mean, I put some tweets out, I got a good video of that fight. And then the tribute, man, I, I've been, I think every playoff game in that building, if not 99% of them, plus all the other games I went to, that's probably a definitely top 10, if not a top five moment. I've had that building in Bruins history. You know, I knew he was like.

[D]

Like audio loudness too. Or more just like the moment that, that will.

[A]

Yes, the, it was the loudness. But just every like right when they put it, everyone like stood up. Like, you know, like in church when the priest like gives you the signal to stand up. Everyone got right up and, and then they started clapping and it was just non stop. I think it went for three minutes. I mean I, you know, I'm not exactly Jesse Owens here, but my arms were getting sore from clapping too long. And it just. You're like, how long is this gonna go for? It just kept going and going. And I, I thought he was gonna like, give one of those. And. And you know, kudos to the game OPS and the league and, and you know, for let that moment breathe and espn. It was just like, it was just. It was such a special day. Felt like a number retirement. Like that. That's the only time I've seen a crowd at that level. And wait, I know you're just talking. You know, you. You've been kind of sick of these tributes over the years, goofing on them. But I've never seen one on TV or Eddie with that level of applause, the noise and the reaction. Have you went.

[D]

I mean, Kane in Chicago seemed that way.

[A]

Okay, there's one but the OT winner too. All right, let's not talk about Chicago. I'm gonna get PTSD from 2013 again. But, but being in the building, it was so special. And I was like, thank. You know, Ma knows best. Like, thank God I listen to all this. She's like, you're not going. And I ended up getting the tickets. And I mean, the, the you collect.

[C]

She is a rocker. She might be the hot. Like, how old is she?

[A]

All right, down boy. My mother's 74.

[C]

She's the hottest 74 year old in the world. I would put her up against anyone.

[A]

Thank you. Stay away from me.

[C]

Okay, son?

[A]

I had one stepfather already. When's an offer.

[C]

Hey, after you saw that, are you now okay with that guy having paid Brad Marchand's parking ticket?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, dude, I've ran into him a few times. I've met him and hung out with him a couple times. Times I forget. He's like, dude, I'm the guy who paid the ticket. I was like, get the out of here. Yeah, man. No, no, my. My old neighbor too. My. My sheep. I. I actually ran into his. His wife like a week before they moved to Florida. Because, you know, kids in Florida, they go to school like, what, July, Keith. They. They go back to school.

[F]

It's crazy down there mid August.

[A]

And I was, you know, saying, I saw. I. I moved. I haven't seen you lately. I miss you guys. Good luck down there. And I. So by the way, tell Brad I said, said congrats on. On the Stanley cup and thanks for the 9,000 he won me when he scored that overtime goal for my DraftKings overtime game, which she's like, did you really? I was like, right. I did. So yeah, because it was like, just like I said, a special night. It would have been nice if they got the W or even a freaking point, but they blew it late. But it's definitely one of those memories I'll, I'll treasure And, and seeing his reaction in the crowd. Yeah, it was, it was awesome. And, and a lot of people like who weren't complaining about the trade last year, piping up quite a bit now, like, you know, everyone's like oh you know, good luck from the playoffs. And now it's like oh Sweeney, blow up the office, blah blah. It's like where were you 16, 16 months?

[D]

There was a lot of hatred when it happened.

[A]

I thought I, I mean people weren't happy to get traded but you know, I think you know he coming off surgery, he's 37 and hey, let's hope we get another one. But I, people seem to do I think like a bit of a 180 on it and I don't know they weren't complaining to this extent that, that they are now and yeah, we didn't want to see him leave but, but it is what it is and I don't know, I, I, I don't, I'm not going to complain about that. No one thought he was going to get a six year deal and good luck to him. I hope he wins a couple more.

[C]

I think, I think also like at this point the regret is God damn, I wish we'd just wish could have got more for him just because like of how good he still is and how relevant as a player. I mean you saw him playoffs, you're like fuck. At least. Cause they ended up getting it got bumped up to a first rounder because they advanced past the second round. Correct. So still decent. But you, you hope you would have got more. I got a few other questions. What was the funnest thing you did off did in your time off? Like what was the, the thing that like filled up your love tank the most when you, when you got your time off?

[A]

Did you say love tank?

[C]

Well, just like, you know, maybe you went on a life changing trip or.

[A]

You did something is empty, buddy. Believe me.

[D]

Oh, all right.

[F]

Fuck.

[D]

You'd be wheeling and dealing in those 16 months.

[A]

Yeah, well now maybe we'll get cracking now that I'm back on, on a public facing episode here.

[C]

But are you down with the dating show now?

[A]

Let's do one. One question first. We'll get to that one. Honestly, the two best times I've had. I went to Oasis in Chicago back in August. And look, I wasn't the biggest OAS fan when they came around. Charlestown guys have always been like ahead of the curve with like music and stuff. And I thought, I didn't know if they were going to be another like, you know, band that comes and goes. Obviously that, that wasn't the case. I kind of grew to love them. I mean, I'm probably not on the top 200 Oasis fans of Charlestown because there's so many diehards. I bought a ticket online, general admission on the field. I paid 600 bucks for it. I was like, I'd rather fly to Chicago than go to the Meadowlands for a concert. And my friend Marty, my one of my dearest friend I went to college with, I grew up with her, she got a ticket like two months later and she had a general admission field seat as well. We walked in. Oh, by the way, if you ever go to Soldier Field, you got to cut through like, I think it's Grant park. It's, you know, 20 minute walk and like every hundred feet there's like a black dude with a cool like selling beers and like shots like so. And you know, you know, pound pounding them on the way in. And people like, well, the club's gonna bother us. I'm like, if they put on these dudes with the coolest selling them, I don't think they're gonna bother the tourists going to Oasis. And so me and Marty went together and the first lady scans our tickets and she opens this gate, she's like, oh, VIPs down here. Like, like VIP. Like, we, we didn't buy our tickets together and went down into the bottles of the stadium. And then we got wristbands and the, the field seats are splitting too. Like basically the 50 yard line, you know, this way and then toward the stage. And we, we got in, we, we got. Before they even come out, we were 20ft from the stage biz. Like it was general mission, no seats. So like we get in and we were like, are you kidding me? And then like, you know, people moving, like during the. Get a beer, take a piss. I'm like, bonnie, let's go. You know, she's like, oh, I don't want to be greedy. I was like, this is when you get greedy in life. You gotta tetris that people leave a concert. You gotta get up closer. And by the end of the show, I mean, we were like on the railing. I mean, like, you know, Nolan, lamb, Gallagher. What's 20ft away? I got dynamite videos.

[D]

Is that a Standard thing where if your floor seats and you have a spot, you go get a beer, your spot's then getting taken.

[A]

Oh yeah. Because it's just, it's, you know, everyone's standing. Yeah, it's general mission, man. That's, you know, I, I think we grabbed one beer when we got there and didn't piss the whole show. And it was unbelievable. And my friend Marty, she's like Die hard. She's with the Stones out of me. I think Oasis is to her and to be with like a. A dear friend and like see that, that show, it was an awesome experience. It was like the crowd felt like a family. I've been a tons of concerts. I never felt like a crowd like this. It was like, you know, like Grateful Dead. But they smelled a lot better than a Grateful Dead crowd. But it was just the, you know, everybody was just into it. I was like hugging like strangers, like singing and dancing. It was just, it was just a special night, man. And I. It was Labor Day, so I stayed out Chicago for a couple more days because Chicago was an awesome city. So that's one. And then back in. I think it was May, I was down Aruba. This is kind of ironic the. The year before during the Stanley cup. You know, I might not have been the biggest person popularity with it.

[D]

Well, you slept on the beach there. You could have done that in Aruba as well.

[A]

I, I didn't down there, but. And well, no, my buddy's kid, he was turned 30 actually. He started. I was basically on a trip with about 20 kachuks a year after the Stanley cup, which is kind of ironic the year before how that went. And then I was on a family trip with probably like 15 or 20 of them. And well, you know, it's all water under the bridge now. So without aruba for a 30th birthday party. Had an absolute blast down there. I mean if you have a. You ever been to Aruba?

[C]

I've never been to Aruba, no. No, that's not one of my spots.

[A]

Yeah, Boston. Like people, like New England people, they go there all the time because it's like a consistently great vacation. You guaranteed great weather. They take care of tourists. There's no like riff raff. Get the tourist area, the beach. It's like the perfect vacation. So, yeah, I went down there for 30th birthday and I got a little relaxation. So yeah, those two were probably the big highlights over the last 16 months for sure.

[C]

Good man. You deserve it.

[A]

So. Thank you, buddy. I appreciate that. So, yeah, I, I, I don't know if you saw, did you see who I picked the win the cup is. I don't know if you saw my blog.

[C]

I was going to ask you what's the like, who, who are you liking early? Like we like. I know sometimes you're not going to necessarily talk about hockey. Sometimes when you have things that you do want to say and you're passionate about, you'll obviously be hopping on the Monday show. You could talk about them here. But early so far this season, who are you loving? Who have you been following? Like what's.

[A]

Okay, well, yeah, I'll do the picks first for the divisions. Toronto, the Rangers, Dallas and Vegas. My four division winners for the conference finals. I have the Leafs over the Ranges and the jets over the Stars and the Stanley cup final, I have the Leafs over the jets with the Con Smythe winner being Anthony Stolas.

[D]

Horrible picks.

[C]

I mean I love this guy.

[A]

I know it sounds like he's got to be trolling like Toronto, blah, blah. No, not at all. I mean let's go back to the playoffs last year, right? You know he outdoed OMAR in the first round and was it 20 minutes into the, not even 20 minutes into the first game versus Florida. Fly by, chicken wing. Boom. He's done, never comes back. They still took Florida to seven games with Joseph Wall playing and he wasn't too great. No disrespect, his numbers weren't good. So if Stolas was in, I think they would have beaten Florida, let's say easily. But they took him to seven games with Walt Wall and that's, you know, they went on to win the cup and I think stole Osmid. He's one of those guys like you know, late in the career they did. The journeyman's not a diss. I know people think it is sometimes. Hey, I love to be called an NHL journeyman and you know, you look, I look at the last 10 years, I mean, who is it? Bob won the last two obviously making a ton of dough. But a lot of the goalies there either didn't have a lot of experience or they weren't making money like Matt Murray. I mean he was making 650 grand, won back to back cups. You know, basically. Who is it? Oh, fucking Aiden Hill. He never had a playoff game before he wins the cup. Binnington never had a playoff game before making 500 grand. Boom. Wins the cup. So you don't have to have a number one guy and you know, maybe reading the tea leaves a little bit here, Stolas. I, I think he's always had a good game. He had an awesome year last year. If he stays healthy. Yeah, I, I think I got Toronto as a pick.

[F]

So you're not worried about him losing his mind, calling out his team?

[A]

And I fucking love that, Keith. I love, I love that like, because it doesn't happen often, but I think he's a guy who's been around, he's paid his dues and he was right, man. Like, you know, I, I love Brandon Kahlo when he was here, but like you said, it was, it was a tough look. And I know he's had a concussion history. I don't know if that maybe makes him a little tentative to get involved, but you know, when you go, he's getting bundled like that and has to defend himself, man, and you know, will he kind of lack a days of getting back? Yeah, I mean, call him out and they said they hashed out where family, blah, blah, blah. But I, I love it. I wish, I wish guys did that more. I know it's not typical of hockey, but yeah, fuck it, you know, maybe light a fire under some of their asses.

[D]

So, yeah, the next game, I think there was a clip of them giving up a four on one against Jersey. So it, it, it. That team's just not listening to their goalie. That's Toronto. They got a baseball team though. It's a baseball city.

[A]

Oh yeah, Well, I got baseball notes later and it's biz. You just bet this will probably be the most hockey, hockey talk I might do all year in here. But you know, I haven't been on for a while and you know, got a lot of takes here. Awards. I'll go through these quick. Well, a couple of Marty look like shit. Jack Adams. I picked my, my boy Marco Sturm because I forgot The Bruins had 17 fourth liners on their roster. Rocket Rashad, Kyle Connor, the Vezner, Swayman, Selkie, Nico, Hesha, Da Norris, Lane Hudson, the Calder, Ivan Demidoff and the Atross and the hot. I got buddy Jack Eichel winning both of those. Why not?

[C]

There, that's a good, that's decent.

[F]

Demidov and Eichel I like.

[A]

Yeah, let's see. I got, I got him 25 to 1 on the hot and 14 to 1. I put another bed in. I got him 40 to 1 to win the hot Ross trophy for most points in the league. He's come out like burning the place up. What's he got? 6 goals, 10 assists, 16 points in 7 games plus 7 has at least 1 point in every game. Already has a pair of 4 point games too, though. Hopefully he keeps humming along, gets, gets a couple bucks.

[C]

We tried, we tried to get him to come surprise you. Ra. I think they're traveling today though, because I know how much he loves all the old school music and I know how much he loves you. We were trying to get Eichel to hop on, but obviously he's busy. Busy and focused trying to help win that division and continue this MVP like season. He's got started already, but. Yeah, unreal. Unreal. Picks.

[F]

All right, what do you, what are your thoughts on Biz booing Marner out of town and Eichel just reaping the benefits of all of this?

[A]

I, I, I don't, I mean, I, I, I look at what Toronto fans, like, say online and I know that it's fucking cesspool. I, I can't believe how much they, they dump on the guy. It's just, no, not grateful at all. The guy gave, you know, however many years he was there and gave a heart and soul. Put up how many points and they just dump on him. But do you think Biz, did Biz run him out of town? Is that the scuttlebutt? The end?

[C]

I, it's, I was mad about the one goal where I snapped. Like, I didn't, I was like, I didn't even care about when he had like the dry hair and he was yelling at the bench in game seven. Like, I didn't even make a big deal about that. I was like, that's nonsense. I don't care about that moment. I don't think I was that bad. I don't think I said much. I didn't tweet stuff I said. I said a few things on the broadcast and on here and these guys want to amplify it. So if I had, if. All right. I've said to these guys and they said they had buddies who were texting them, confused. If I'm the reason and they want to put it on me, I'll eat it and apologize for it. But I just think they're just doing it to be assholes.

[A]

Okay, good. Another note, too. I think there's, I think goalies have been a big story this year. I think 25% of starting goalies have a safe percentage. Ninth to two, Ohio. You know, Alex, great score.

[C]

Yeah, it's very dried up right now.

[A]

Yeah. But, you know, great goaltender. I mean, Alex Lyon and Buffalo, I know they finally got off The Schneider bit. He's been unbelievable. And does Philly finally have a goalie? Danville died. How ironic though that Philly might have a goalie in it and his nickname is Doth. Of all freaking teams that Vader action. But he's been outstanding. Where's numbers here? 3 and 1175 with a 929 Philly.

[D]

What does that have to do with Philly? Darth?

[A]

Yeah. Loud because like well the everyone shits on Philly. They're like mean, mean. And Darth Vader, you know like yeah.

[C]

Dark.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Philly gets dumped on it also I think the most exciting team right now to watch. And Montreal Canadiens man.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Colquitt Gold Caulfield did the two games back to back overtime winners with the tie angle. And dude, that place, it's. It's just electric as like you get goosebumps just watching regular season games on on tv the way that place is going. So shout out to the Canadians and biz. I'm sorry Whit. I know you already mentioned the Penguins 520 and their goal is what Sea loves the help the former connect. 3 in 1. 226, a 919 save percentage. Jerry 2 in 1 with a 235922. I mean I don't know if it's going to hold up but you know I think that probably the biggest surprise in the year so far. See what happens as things go on. And then I knew you guys were just talking about goalies playing out of the crease. Jerry Cheev is I got to give him a shout out. I sent the link to G. This guy, he would stick handle literally leave his debt like all the way down the ice like blue line, red line over the other blue line.

[D]

He was really.

[A]

Yeah, I. I don't know what the rule was back then but yeah, I sent the video to G. Hilarious. Because when the Delkovich at that awful overtime last San Jose a couple weeks.

[C]

Ago, well he was trading guys in NFL fantasy for to other teams.

[A]

Brutal. Look, but yeah, I just want to give Jerry Cheevers a shout out for. For being a madman in the net back in the day. But. All right, we already talked about the Martian stuff but another tribute I do want to mention and I know you guys, I'm not. You might have mentioned before Kenny Dryden. You know I was blessed to. To see probably what I would say the greatest dynasty in NHL history when I was a little kid. The Montreal canadiens. You know, four in a row. 76, 77, 78, 79. And you know, to see Gila Fleur and Steve Shut and Larry Robinson and Kenny Dryden.

[B]

I.

[A]

Remember that shit forever. And of course he passed away and you know, condolences to his family and the Canadiens family, but I just want to pump his stats a little bit. Absolutely insane. He played eight seasons, he won six Stanley Cups. He won the Con Smythe playoff MVP before he won, called the Rookie of the year. He won five Vesna trophies and this is the goddamn 70s. A 2.2424 goals against a.922 safe percentage. I mean, that's when, you know, guys would play a game, then go do a double, like doing carpentry work or something to pay their bills, whatever. Back in the day, I mean, he was 6 4. You know, he had that iconic. Just would lean on a stick with that, with that mask and yeah, I just wanted to give him a shout out like, you know, he's, he's a guy I think should get mentioned while we talk. You know, Hash Perdur, obviously. Yeah, no, those guys are that. But Kenny Dryden, I, I don't know why his name doesn't get mentioned more. And you know, you could say, oh, he was on that team with all those guys. But dude, he's still gonna stop the pockets to stop it, you know, with the 922- say percentage of the 1970s. Absolutely. Banana lands. And also too, he took off that 73, 74 season contract dispute and oh, gets his law degree. Like what? Literally, like saddle season, gets his lottery comes back. And he also wrote the best hockey book ever. It's called the Game. I don't know if he's ever heard of it, listeners. It's. I mean, I don't know if anyone disagrees that it's not the best hockey book ever. I mean, he was a very smart, intelligent guy and he gave you insight. It wasn't like gossipy type stuff, just, you know, stuff behind the scenes. And a tremendous, tremendous dude individual. Check that book out. Also, he was the third round draft pick of the Bruins and 1964 and they traded him 17 days later. So stay hard, Sweeney. Good job there.

[C]

Oh, yeah, Sweeney's getting shrapnel for that one. Ra. When he sat out for the contract dispute, did he end up getting what he wanted the following year? Did they and did they not win the Stanley cup the year he sat.

[A]

Out 74 Flyers won the cup in 74, so. But yeah, he ended up getting. I don't know what the exact number was, but yeah, he, he knew he had the leverage. And Montreal Ended up having to cough up whatever they didn't want to give him. So, yeah, Philly won at 74 and 75, but then Montreal went at 76, 77, 78, 79. They also won it 71 and 73 as well before he sat out. And also too, I want to mention two other goalies who passed away at around the same time. Eddie Jackman, New York Rangers legend, and Bernie Perront, Philadelphia Flyers legend. You know, back to back hunt smites in insane numbers with the old Broad Street Boys. And he was an absolute legend, that guy. I think he lived on a houseboat in like whatever river in Philadelphia, like all the time. Like a very legit houseboat. He was a character, a playboy, just like a quintessential 70s hockey player that he probably should have been in. Slap shot type of thing. So why don't I just give a. Give a shout out to all those guys? Just. It was special. And that, that tribute to biz, like with Macho Man. They do that.

[F]

They do, yeah.

[C]

Yan's was touching on. He's like. It was ridiculous how emotional it was. And the same night that Lane Hudson had came out first game after signing his contract. So there was just so much morale going around in that room.

[A]

Yeah, the, you know, the mask on the net. The what? The solo spotlight. It was just like, oh, it was like so damn so goddamn classy. It was like simple, but it was perfect. And, well, as you just mentioned, you know, the players coming out. So the players were introduced, they had their own songs when they came out. I don't know if you guys caught that or not when they come out that night. And I, I surprisingly, I actually do seven and a half of them out of what, 20 of them. Which kind of surprised me because all these young kids, I don't listen to the music, they do. And the half, the half song was one of them had that song Titanium. Who is it, David Guetta? Yeah. Patrick Lyney, he had Titanium for David Guetta. The only reason I know that song is from Pitch Perfect, the acapella fun movie with Anna Kendrick. You know, the. She sings it in the shower. I am titanium. That's how I know that song. So anyways, listen, I think we said this before on the show, dudes have to have their own goal songs. I think that would be the best thing for the league. Guy score. Boom. They have a tune. Play it, you know, a snippet of it, whatever. And here's the thing, don't put the list out before the season. Don't tell the fans. So it'll be like an extra little suspense thing, you know, so when a guy scores you, you'll hear that song for the first time and then you'll, you know, be associated with the dude. I mean pitch like, you know, pasta scoring a goal and like a stoop Snoop Dogg needle drop at the God, you know. And look, I love the Woohoo in the same song they played forever but we also had John Kylie playing the organ for 40 as and that ended. So I think this would be a huge move for the league. And like I said, the fact that Canadians did this, you know, like, you know, they're conservative organization, not politically, you know, just kind of. They represent the class of league. So I think the fact that they had this thing go down, let all the other players do it.

[C]

I agree already. That's a.

[D]

There is an NHL team doing it. Is. Is that Montreal? Is there another one?

[A]

No, no, they just did it for the intros. Like, you know, there is an NHL.

[D]

Team that's decided to do that.

[F]

We did it in Phoenix one year Biz. Remember they asked us.

[C]

No, I don't.

[F]

It was like a walk up song for the. If you were picked to go in the shootout, which was pretty cool.

[C]

I guess that's cool too.

[A]

The PA was like, does anybody here know how to dj? You guys come up.

[D]

Washington. Washington's doing that this year.

[A]

Okay. Really? Okay.

[C]

So they've adopted it.

[A]

Yeah. So I think. And you know, also like the social media fact that, you know, there'll be memes and jokes or whatever and that's just free publicity for the league. That's like free marketing for the league. I, I don't, I don't know if it'll ever happen, but I think there's good like crossover potential as well. If it's an artist who's still living, they get wind of it, you know, meet up with the players. So you might bring in new fans from. From a different, you know, environment that don't watch hockey and might work for the. The artist make, you know, he might get some new fans from the hockey world. So I don't see.

[F]

I wonder if they can't use some music from some people though, you know what I mean? Like in the building you can. Crazy.

[C]

Oh yeah, it's like a dj.

[A]

Yeah, I think, I think. Yeah, basically. I mean, by the way the guy was banging the other night, the first two periods with Dennis Dillinger, the marshanite and when they tied up, dude, I felt like I was at a frat basement. Like once the place got bumping, you know the shout from Animal House. Well, they played that. They played the whole song and do it like the whole place was, you know, up and down, jumping and dancing, man, it was, it was good stuff. But I think, Keith, when you play Chowto, I think you got to play the Oldest Day and the Knights version. I mean, I mean, all due respect to the Isley Brothers, but. So, yeah, I don't know. I. I think there's no downside in. But somebody on the team has to probably have Stairway to Heaven. So when they have those goalie interference.

[C]

That'S another one too. Yeah, the long reviews.

[A]

But so what, like what I biz, what song or songs would you. I mean, I know it's probably unlikely that, that it's gonna play, but what song would you want when you scored? Wow.

[D]

Let the bodies hit the floor.

[C]

I think it would be fun to. To change it up and also like get a reaction out of the crowd. So. It always helps though, after a goal, you want to amplify the crowd. So something like an AC DC thunderstruck. I know we talk about that. Something very intense very quickly. I'll throw it over to Yan's while I maybe look at my. My phone and see what. What would pop up. Do you have one in mind?

[F]

The one that I choose, I remember choosing for my shootout thing in Phoenix because I knew I was never going to go, was Britney Spears. And she had a song, it was called Number three. Like just the number three. And I wore number three then. So I. I had that as my song.

[A]

Okay, Woody. Woody, you got one for us, bud?

[D]

Anything 10. Fehah.

[C]

I knew, I knew you're a. I knew it. You what?

[A]

I. I would probably do the Stones. Can you hear me knocking the opening guitar riff?

[D]

Oh, that's the one we called Shanahan one night Biz. Do you remember walking back with RA after D in Boston and we played the beginning of it because it was during the whole madness of. Of Toronto. Remember last.

[C]

Yeah. Will Arnett wanted them to change up the goal song. He wanted a little different feel, change the vibe around the arena. He thought the old one had gotten a little stale. And yes, I remember that when. When we were with Shanny when we. That was the night we saw Nylander with the tank top mid. That was all stuff. Yes, I think that maybe something Oasis, because when we were at the Chiclets Cup, Con man was bumping a lot of Oasis and that Cigarettes and alcohol is a good tune, by the way.

[A]

Great seeing con man in Boston. He's, he's the fucking man. Love that guy. Well, and on the subject of, you know, player expression, the new CBA gives guys another opportunity to do so. I know he's just talking about the, the no dress codes. I know some people are bitching about it. I say, about time, man. I've been saying this for ages. Like, I think of guys who, you know, the Bruins, they live like Charlestown or the north end of the West End, you know, they got to put a suit on for a three minute ride to work, and then they get there and they gotta change right away. It's like no one sees them. They're not, you know, I know they do the fit checks now on the camera, but I don't, it's just like, you know, like, just wear whatever and we're seeing that. And like when the Blackhawks were in a couple weeks ago, I went to the game and a couple of players outside the bus, I was going to say hi to the coach and you know, they look fine. It's not like they, they look like scrubs or anything. And then also the, they've taken a three minute walk to the bus, a 35 minute ride to the airport for a three hour flight home. Like, who's going to see them? Why do you need a suit? And there's nothing worse than flying with a goddamn suit on either. Like, well, we would just change this.

[C]

Yeah, we would just change. As soon as we got in the plane, you put on the, like those tight compression pants, put on some fart catchers, whatever it may be. Now, I think this is a perfect time to bring back up this segment and maybe from now on we actually have it in Ra's World world where we take a look at these outfits, these guys are rocking and we go through them. We already pulled up Nylander. Okay, this one's hilarious. And then Memes ended up putting him in a grease lightning picture. This is Vasilevsky.

[A]

Dramatic holy surrogate Jeff.

[C]

I mean, what do you guys make of this one?

[D]

That's, that's not Sergachev. That is.

[C]

Me.

[D]

And I, I, I, I couldn't pull it off. I like it. I think the only bad thing is like, his, like, hairstyle. I'm not a huge fan of that. I also couldn't grow that. Maybe that's why I'm jealous. But he looks good. He looks ready to go. He looks like a machine, too.

[C]

He's almost got that no country for Old men type cut from the, the serial killer.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Flip a coin, buddy.

[C]

Yeah, flip.

[D]

I'm going to shut you out or you're going to light me up for seven.

[A]

Call it. I want you to call it. Heads or tails? That. What a creepy bastard he was. Yeah, dude. J.J. paterka. I don't feel the picture. He had a. He looked like he had a zoot suit from, like 1930s or something. Like, some of these guys, I. I like the suits and when they're flashy, but I'm waiting for someone to show up, like sweatpants and like a wife beater on it. And my money would be on, like Seth Jarvis. Like, he seems that type would just show up, like. And I'm not knocking on him. He's character, he's hilarious. But yeah, I like to see, like, again, the expression, these guys showing themselves and, and especially during the playoffs, like. Like wearing the Blue Jay shirts or the Mariner shirts, you know, the different diff. You know, it's the Italians in the playoffs. Whatever. That shit's good. But yeah, man, this is just another way, like, you know, guys to show it off. And some of them, though, like, boring as they look like they're going to like a real estate showing on a Sunday afternoon or something.

[C]

Let's. Let's keep rifling through these. Okay. So that's Cleveland Keller.

[D]

Those jeans are.

[C]

I think those are chrome hearts.

[D]

Those jeans are in biz. That's in.

[C]

I. I don't know. I. I'm not big on the stitching on jeans. I. I keep it simple. Off the glass and out.

[G]

Out.

[C]

I actually got this Japanese denim that I've been rocking here. It's actually no free ads, but this is Hiroshi Kato unreal Japanese denim. And they don't do all the stitching like that, so I don't also think that's the worst fit on Clayton Keller. You don't. You don't like the poofy jacket? Was that the one that you were ripping earlier?

[D]

I was more talking about the. The patch on the knees of the jeans were. But I. I think. What's Clayton Keller, 24, like this. This is probably in. I'm guessing, if he's wearing it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Somebody tell Vassy that Kinnick he's on his way over to pick him up.

[C]

What do you make of this? Do you have any opinions? Do you ever wear jeans with stitch on them?

[F]

Maybe the Ed Hardy one or what? True religion. Remember those were big in Phoenix. Those had some stitching on them, but no, those almost the jeans. And even Roan had them on when we were at barstool. Like, it seems like they're wearing almost like a janko style that was prevalent when we were in, like, middle school. But I'm not a big fan of the bag of jeans. But, like, Whit. I got no style. I got a free pink Whitney shirt on. Like, what are we talking about?

[C]

Yeah, what else do we got?

[A]

Did you have Jayco jeans teeth back in the day?

[F]

I always wanted a pair, but my dad would never buy them for me. We were more like the old Navy carpenter and old Navy cargo jeans that. That type of fam. Is this the same kid who had on the.

[C]

Yeah. Dimitri Simishev.

[D]

He's a book guy.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Another book. He looks like the guy walking in Bittersweet Symphony.

[D]

It's a bittersweet Ryan Philippe.

[C]

No, that is from the movie where that song does play. But I'm talking about the music video Bittersweet Symphony where he's kind of just got this, like, this strut going the whole. The whole video. And he's got. He's rocking a lot of confidence and clearly doesn't give a fuck about people's opinion because he is really going off the board here.

[A]

So he owns it.

[C]

Yeah. What else we got?

[F]

That was funny.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

This is the 1500th game.

[C]

Yeah. This is Tabes in Colorado rocking the. The Brent Burns backpack.

[D]

The whole team wore those backpacks that so good. Many people wonder what's in there. I think there could be animals. Coffee machine with Brent Burns, you never really know.

[A]

Also.

[C]

A drug mule for the Mexican cartel is what I'm thinking.

[D]

Shout out. Brent Burns, too. Who reversed hit Tan Ev in Seattle. Brandon Tan, Just an incredible reverse.

[C]

No, he plays for the Utah Mammoth now.

[D]

Sorry. He has moved on to Utah.

[A]

I apologize.

[C]

No worries.

[A]

Do a couple more here. Who's that? Dawn. Throw me up. And there's Willie Styles.

[F]

Willie style.

[D]

I've noticed his.

[F]

And he never has a belt on. What's with the Nobel Peace Prize?

[C]

I don't know. I think the cool kids don't wear belts anymore.

[F]

That's in. Yeah, Belts are done.

[A]

MC Hammer pants. He looks like he's got on.

[C]

He's got it around his neck, actually. As you can see in this photo. The choker.

[F]

Oh, there you go. Ra Domi has the sweatpants on the fart catchers.

[A]

There we go. Absolutely, man. That's my style.

[C]

Do you think that you started the.

[B]

The.

[C]

The choker trend? Because Willie's got one on there.

[D]

All right.

[C]

Do you think that people are caught Tighter.

[F]

Ra And Avril Lavigne started it because.

[A]

You know what I mean? You know why I had it on all night. Right?

[C]

You had it on the bus. And I go, that looks unbelievable on you. Because it did. I just didn't know you were going to be buckled on the ice with it, forgetting guys, names, who you were going to interview. So that's kind of the discrepancy that.

[A]

Okay, no, well, kind of like that.

[C]

Kind of like the Mitch Marner stuff. I'll take part blame, but I'.

[A]

Oh, no, it's not a point. No, you said that. He's like. You're like, all right, that looks good. He's like, keep that on all night. So I was like, all right. And honestly, I forgot even had it on, which like it was like, for sure, for sure.

[D]

I think you forgot what state you were in, let alone the choker on your neck.

[C]

Unbelievable. All right, what else do you have planned? And one of the questions I was going to ask to you is like, yeah, you got a new setup, a new living arrangement.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I love the fact that you're. Your couch looks comfortable. And you also seem to have pants on during this recording. What is the memorabilia behind you? What is all this stuff behind you?

[F]

Yeah, those goggles stolen from a Stanley cup winning locker room?

[C]

No, it's because he goes skiing every weekend. Not the one you're thinking about in the summer. Yeah.

[A]

Keith, right spot on it. I knew you were going to ask that question. Business. I'm psyched that you did. Yeah. Those goggles, they weren't stolen. It was the Vegas Stanley cup night when they won, by the way. I. I bet Florida and good for Florida that whole series, but Vegas didn't seem to seem to mind that night. And we were out partying, all the different clubs, and I forget there were goggles. Someone like, tossed them at me. It might have been Whitey. Zach. White Cloud, he might have given to me or whatever. But. So, yeah, they come home with me. So a nice little souvenir. And right to the. Next to that. That right there is. That's the first page of season one of the Shawzy script.

[C]

That's cool. That's cool. What's the ladies room?

[D]

That's his. That's his name for his new apartment.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah. Somebody. Somebody put the. Better put the memo out with that sign. Okay. I went to Columbus High School. Across the bridge, the north end. I was the Last graduate, class 1990. And it. Well, it wasn't like when a stadium closes, people start ripping chairs out and. But you Know people will take a little souvenirs. And I looked up and that was above the ladies room and I just got a screwdriver and popped it off and took it for a souvenir. But this is kind of probably cheesy, but what I did, I. I put it above my. My bedroom. My. When I live like the old man above my thing. So when he walked in because side ladies who was above my bedroom door, the last place I lived at. I mean you couldn't really.

[C]

You never. You never plowed anyone in the ladies room when you're going to school there, did you?

[A]

No, no, I don't plow any. Applaud anyone in any part of the school. But. But I did my bedroom back at Leo.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

I didn't know if there was any other significance to the fact that that.

[A]

No, just. It's just a goofy thing and it was laying around. So what else we got? Oh, that's just a picture I took of the Bunker Hill Monument up the street. Obviously a huge landmark in American history. Cam Neely Koozie. This. This is one of the best soundtracks ever. Saturday night for you. That's a vinyl album right there. I bought it at like a thrift shop in. Was it Vermont a couple years ago. I don't even have a record player, but it's like one of my favorite soundtracks of all time. Mick Jagger picture. I took that down Foxborough concert back in the day. The rear admiral nameplate was from. We did the TNT then I'd have hit the three pointer before the Penguins scored.

[D]

Yeah, that's when you were known for Basketball Fair.

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

I see the. The Late game poster. That's when you were the Zamboni driver. The miserable Zamboni driver.

[A]

Yep. Yeah, the late game of the movie. I was in Late game. Check it out. It's. It's on Amazon. That. What's that? That's a My Goon Koozie. Oh, that's. Oh, that picture. That's me kissing the Stanley cup down at the Spud bar in Charleston. That was the third time I met Stanley. That's actually a funny story. It was January of 2009. It was a Sunday NFL playoffs being the boys road all day. It was like 11:30 on a Sunday night. Door opens and watch thoroughly with the Stanley cup over his shoulder like a keg in college. And we're like, what? Like everyone's just jaws on the floor because like what the this doing here? Well, it was the. The wives carnival. The Bruins wives carnival that day. And they bring the cup in to take pitches to raise money and thought he commandeered it and, like, brought it to, like, every bar in Boston. So I didn't know I had met Sean before he. It was his first year there, and of course, I got my scally hat on and a Bruin shirt on straight out of central casting. And he puts it on the table. It, like, points to me at the chest. He's like, you're in charge. I'm going to the bar. And I was like. I'm like, what the. I called my father. I was like, dad, guess what? I'm babysitting right now. He's like, what? I'm like, the Stanley cup down the spud. He's like, are you me? And like, everybody was like. Like, it was bananas. So, yeah, I hung out. That's the first time I met Thor. He got some good pitches, and I was like, dude, when you win it, you got to bring it back down here. And when they won it two years later, he. He brought it back down there. So that's be kissing the cup. Jam Rock, obviously.

[C]

Irish guy G asked if you still have the Altoids. There was an Altoids rapper that you had Pedro Martinez sign because that was the only thing you had on you for him to sign. Do you still have that?

[A]

I. I do. I think it might be with. Put my. My storage stuff that I still have a bunch of stuff. I live in a shoe box. There's not a lot of room here. But I don't have it at my disposal, but I can add it at some point. Oh, that's a Batmobile. Hot Wheels Batmobile. You know what that is?

[C]

That looks like the hood of a Rolls Royce.

[B]

The.

[D]

The emblem looks like the top of a flag.

[A]

Bingo. Bangle. No, it's. It.

[F]

Rolls Royce.

[A]

That's a Rolls Royce hood ornament.

[C]

Where'd you get it?

[D]

Right off of Rolls Royce cars.

[A]

All right, we gotta end it. We gotta go cut it. No, it was my stepfather's back in the day. I mean, he's been gone for 35 years, but he. He had a Rolls back in the day, and I don't. Somehow my mother. In fact, I ended up with this. So I've just been carrying around forever, just a little something different.

[C]

I think we've. We've heard enough about that. Is there anything else you have, like, on your list that you wanted to go over?

[A]

Yes, absolutely. Oh, you. Just one thing. You just mentioned books. Did you see what Jack Hughes is doing with the Devils? Him and his brother Luke, they started A program to, like, give books to, like, the community, the New Jersey community, get kids start reading again and like to donate a bunch of books. And I mean, that's pretty cool, man. You don't see too many athletes doing that. And, you know, a lot of kids probably don't read as much, so I just want to give them a shout out for that. That's my dad right there, Leo, putting out a fire. So when I got the date when my first show is going to be, you know, today, October 24th, a big shitty eating grid come over my face because is my dad's birthday. And I was like, it's like a inadvertent birthday gift farm. And so, dad, I love you. You're the best. Happy 81st. He's been aces. I mean, we lived together for 20 years. We should have been like an 80s sitcom. The dude's the best. This. This whole town loves him and adores him and, yeah, I'm psyched that this dropped on his 81st birthday.

[C]

That's awesome, dude.

[A]

Shout out to Leo, man. He's the absolute best.

[C]

It's kind of like how Marshawn was back 16 years, you know, after he first started for the Bruins. That's kind of the vibe I got right there. Same thing, right?

[A]

Yeah, that was. Yeah, it's good. Oh, one. So I had this question, so what do you think? Like, I mean, that you guys probably don't even know my birthday is. Because I don't. I'm like my father. I don't give two shits. I don't make a big deal about.

[D]

It, but do you know when our birthdays are?

[A]

No. I mean, no, but, like, I. But they've. They've been, like, brought up, acknowledged, whatever.

[C]

How old are you? 51?

[A]

53. I wish I was 51. I'm 53. But. But when I see dudes, like, you know, like, drawing attention to it, like. And like, I'm. Yeah, whatever. I'll say, like, chicks like, yo, like, my birthday week, my birthday month. If I ever heard a dude friend say, it's my birthday week or my birthday month, I would punt him out of my friend group so quick. Dude, it's like, you know, it's. Yeah, it's fun. You celebrate it, but it's a birthday, man. We all. We all celebrate him.

[F]

I don't know.

[A]

Dudes act like that. Get over yourself. I don't. Not a big fan of that.

[G]

That's fair.

[F]

I kind of used to feel the same way, but now it's like, it's A good reason to get together with friends and celebrate.

[D]

I kind of love birthdays celebrated by your family.

[F]

Yeah, all you got left.

[A]

And I didn't mean to imply that that doesn't happen. I'm just saying when, you know, people like. Oh, you say birthday, like, you know, they just want people to say happy birthday. Something like total strangers on the Internet. I don't.

[C]

I love the first gr.

[B]

This is awesome.

[A]

Absolutely. Celebrate. Celebrate with the fam and all that.

[C]

You must have hated me in my 40th then. I mean, Whit did, because it was butt plug central.

[D]

I never hated that. I never hated that I laughed at your jacket. Never once did I hate that. You're crazy. I mean, RA brought up his dad's birthday and then said he hates birthdays, but.

[A]

Yeah, I just don't. Yeah, don't, don't.

[C]

The boys are back, baby.

[A]

All right, I got a couple picks here. But before that, I did make a note here. Like, baseball playoffs, man, I don't watch regular season much, but I think Major League Baseball playoffs are on par sometimes with NHL playoffs, man. Like the way things change in a dime, how things can snowball. Like, you know, one pitch. Like we saw the other night with Toronto, just things go like absolutely wild. And, and, and like Scott Van Pelt, he tweeted out like a similar thing, like a tweet right here. He said, I go back and forth on what has more attention, playoff baseball or OT and playoff hockey. This Tigers Mariners game has been like ot, Stanley cup playoffs for about three hours. And this dude had the best reply I've ever seen. He said, it's like two different types of horror movies. Hockey is like Jason, where it's just constant action, gore and simply relentless. Baseball is like Hitchcock, where the stress is building up over small things and then all hell breaks loose. I was like, that's the best friggin analogy I've ever heard.

[C]

That's poetry.

[A]

Any sort of playoff stuff. So. All right, last thing. The gamble corner. It's back LA NFL action, little NHL action. Now, obviously I don't know the lines for the NHL, so I'm kind of flying blind on those. But for us with the NFL, I think two mistakes NFL betas often make are mistakes in quotes they ignore. Underdog says people are conditioned. They hear a favorite, they think supposed to win by. Which is not the case at all. You're not supposed to win. It's just to get equal action on both sides. And also people bet way too many games, pick one or two teams, load up on Them and then do some small shits and giggle stuff. But this weekend, and I haven't said that I tend to avoid obvious public jock. But Buffalo is going to fucking throttle Carolina this weekend. They're coming off a buy. They lost two in a row. Delaying seven right now on the road with a minus 120. Vic, I don't see how they don't blow this team out by two, three touchdowns. I think the line should be probably 10 or 11. So Buffalo this weekend, I don't see how they don't dummy dummy that Carolina squad and spend the extra vig buy the seven down to six and a half because they wouldn't buy seven. And you push, you know, you're like why did they buy the half point?

[D]

Also I'm thinking or, or make the line nine and a half and get some plus juice on it.

[A]

That. Yeah, that's what. Yeah. Now, yeah, right. What. You know, obviously the draft kicks. You find any line you want out there. I'm still kind of old school mentality where you kind of zone in on the main one. But absolutely. I like the margin of victory bets, you know, a team will win by, you know, a super spread, whatever. You get a nice little return on those. My other NFL pick, I know, the Giants, dummy, the Eagles a couple weeks ago and everybody's probably all over Philly, they have seven and a half at home right now. I think people gonna be off Philly, they're gonna be out for revenge, blah, blah blah. But dude, the Giants have been on a heater since they put that Jackson dot kid in the division. Rivals in that division, the nfc Eastman, those teams always seem to upset each other, beat the hell out of each other. So I'm taking the G men at seven and a half right now. It's a division game. I know again they beat him two weeks ago. But take the Giants plus seven and a half, the big minus 120 and throw a little small play on the money line to plus 330. I think, I think that'll be a wise play there. And again, I don't have the NHL lines yet for the this weekend, but I do like San Jose. If San Jose loses tonight of last night to the Rangers, Betham versus the Devils tonight because obviously we're recording on Thursday.

[D]

Oh, I would love that.

[A]

Yeah. So if, if San Jose loses at MSG tonight, take them versus the Devils tomorrow. It's just, you know they're going to win eventually and I, you know, sometimes teams are under heated and they take a team like that too lightly. So San Jose, if the Rangers lose, beat them tonight. Anaheim and Tampa, they're playing Saturday. Anaheim's got a busy schedule. I think it's their fourth game of the week. Tampa's only had one game the last week. I think they're turning a bit of a corner. I know Vassi started off tough, but take the Lightning Saturday. I don't know the line yet, but I'd say take them regulation only and then the puck line as well. So those are. Those are the picks for the weekend. And yeah, boys, that, that. That pretty much sums it up. I know if I could kind of ramble a little bit here.

[C]

Nobody.

[A]

This was awesome. A little jazzed up and. Yeah, it's great to be back, man, and to be behind the mic and I love it. Love you guys. And I. I appreciate everything and. And I can't wait to have a fucking great season.

[D]

I love it already. Welcome back. Welcome back. Good job. And before we kind of finish off, I do want to remind everyone, breast Cancer awareness merchandise that we have 100% of the net proceeds go to 5 under 40 foundation, a foundation that helps young women diagnosed with cancer by wigs and beauty products. So let's help these ladies out. All right. Great to have you back, boys. Good show. Thank you to Shane Doane. Thank you to John Cooper. We'll be back Monday live. See y' all then.

[A]

Go J's laugh.

[D]

A bad habit worth breaking but it's taking time. I don't know the. Don't let it.

[A]

It's going to happen.

[D]

It's going to happen again. Wanna.