Spittin' Chiclets Episode 592: Featuring Jay Rosehill

Summary

Spittin' Chiclets Episode 592: Featuring Jay Rosehill

Release Date: October 31, 2025
Hosts: Ryan Whitney, Paul Bissonnette, Rear Admiral (RA), Mike Grinnell, Keith Yandle
Guest: Jay Rosehill (Former NHLer, Leafs/Flyers Enforcer, Current Firefighter/Media Personality)

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Episode Overview

This special Halloween episode is a jam-packed, irreverent ride through the latest in NHL news, hockey culture, and off-ice storytelling. NHL vets Whitney, Bissonnette, Yandle, RA, and Grinnell are joined by enforcer-turned-firefighter Jay Rosehill. The crew rocks Halloween costumes and delivers hot takes on big NHL signings, golf drama, Frozen Frenzy overviews, and Toronto Maple Leafs therapy. Rosehill opens up about his unique hockey journey, career brawls, wild off-ice stories, and post-hockey life. The episode also features the second installment of "RA’s World," classic movie picks, and playoff/draft speculation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Vibes & Halloween Banter

• Hosts talk Halloween costumes—Biz as Pope John Paul, Whit as Batman, Yandle as Frankenstein.
• Family Halloween plans; sugar rush and early morning youth hockey (#05:00).
• Lighthearted tone sets up the episode's blend of hockey talk and storytelling.

2. Sponsorship & Media Updates

• Discover announced as new presenting sponsor: "We're the luckiest men on earth. The official credit card of the NHL." (Whit, #01:41)
• Biz shares positive experiences working with Discover at Winter Classic events (#02:51).
• Show celebrates the milestone, hinting at continued climb in popularity and opportunities.

3. Golf Goes Viral: Internet Invitational Drama

• The Barstool Internet Invitational debuts to 3.2M+ views in 48 hours (#08:17).
• Golf controversy: Pro Luke Kwan, paired with PFT Commenter (22 handicap), sleeps through his tee time and shows no remorse. Kwan chirps teammate, causing outrage and costing team prize money.
• Notable Quote:
  • "I've never seen somebody who made a mistake with less remorse in my life... Didn't give a flying. He started chirping his partner, PFT, who's been grinding out there alone." (Whit, #09:45)
• Discussion of the cultural clash: hockey locker room accountability vs. golf ego.
• Biz and Whit reflect on Kwan’s attitude and the larger YouTube golf explosion.
• Praise for Barstool’s golf creators and John Gruden’s storytelling on the course (#16:07).

4. NHL Wide: Frozen Frenzy Reactions

• Every NHL team played on Tuesday night—panel loved the staggered starts.
  • "Staggered starts... big hit. You could kind of catch the ends of all these games if they're close." (Whit, #18:15)
• Criticism of ESPN's limited whiparound coverage.
• Game highlights:
  • Flyers/Penguins rivalry returning to old-school animosity (#18:51)
  • Crosby’s near penalty drama; Biz’s history with similar suspensions (#19:54)
  • Canadiens’ Cole Caufield sets franchise record for OT goals (#20:10)
  • Connor Bedard scores first career NHL hat trick (#20:58)
• Debate on Bedard vs. Celebrini; both celebrated for early contributions (#22:20)

5. Big NHL Signings & Contract Analysis

• Colorado Avalanche: Martin Nečas signs 8 years, $11.5M AAV.
  • Panel calls it a “huge signing” and a fair deal for both player and club (#26:53).
  • Discussion about player speed, style change after trade, and future projections.
  • "Thirty to forty goals a year... he'll be a bargain by the end." (Keith, #28:19)
• Coyotes: Logan Cooley gets 6-year, $10M AAV bridge deal.
  • Evaluating Cooley vs. Bedard—"Who would you rather sign?" raises debate (#32:35)
• Dallas Stars: Thomas Harley inks an 8-year, $10.59M extension, becoming one of the highest-paid defensemen (#35:20).
  • Praise for Dallas’ elite drafting/development.
  • Panel speculates on Jason Robertson’s impending payday and long-term team-building.

6. Maple Leafs Deep Dive & Jay Rosehill Enters

• Leads into Leaf's recent thrashing by Columbus and ongoing struggles (#46:21).
• Rosehill, former Leafs/Flyers enforcer and current firefighter/media voice, joins.
  • Rosehill reflects on his post-NHL career, the camaraderie of firefighting, and transitioning to hockey media.
  • Shares wild stories:
    • Switching positions in pro, surviving bad coaches, career-changing brawls.
    • Legendary “stolen Hyundai story”: drunken joke turns into 36 hrs in jail (#95:03–#104:22).
• Discussion on team identity, leadership, and the Toronto hockey market’s unique intensity.
• "There's no emotions, there's no Nathan MacKinnon. Like, where’s the fire?" (Rosehill, #126:45)

7. Media, Culture, and Generational Tension

• Panel debates NHL player fashion/personality:
  • Austin Matthews/Leafs criticized for off-beat pregame looks; is it distracting or harmless fun? (#129:05)
  • "I don't get how you can put on this weird looking s**... and then get crushed in the game and then put that back on... But I'm old."* (Rosehill, #130:24)
  • Broader discussion about old-school vs. new-school attitudes in hockey culture.

8. Other NHL Hot Topics

• Barzal scratched by Patrick Roy for missing a meeting; debate on setting standards for stars (#41:14)
• Player accountability, team dynamics, and mental approach dissected.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "I just kept it to myself and was like, quietly obsessed with making it [the NHL] no matter what. I told a teacher that one time, she laughed in my face."
  —Jay Rosehill on his late-blooming but relentless hockey drive (#64:46)

• "Told to put the puck in the stands — 20 minutes before puck drop. I’m just destroyed, confidence shot."
  —Jay Rosehill on a brutal AHL coaching experience (#79:21)

• "I made so much of a mess every game that someone's gonna notice."
  —Jay Rosehill on attracting NHL attention through scrap-heavy play in the minors (#87:12)

• [On the viral Kwan golf incident:] "It was all about how he reacted. I was like, this guy is a legit asshole...he chirped his partner...just didn't seem like a very good guy."
  —Whitney (#11:23)

• "Frozen Frenzy... Every team played, loved the staggered starts, but why only a whiparound show for 90 minutes?"
  —Whitney (#18:15)

• "Brad Marchand stepping up, taking a leave of absence to support a friend. Says a lot about him."
  —Whit (#45:15)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------------|------------| | Halloween banter & new sponsor | 00:42–04:56| | Frozen Frenzy/MLB-World Series talk | 05:29–08:17| | Internet Invitational golf drama | 08:17–15:46| | NHL Tuesday/Frozen Frenzy reactions | 18:15–26:53| | Major NHL signings & contracts analysis | 26:53–35:20| | Maple Leafs therapy/lead-in to Rosehill | 46:21–54:30| | Jay Rosehill interview | 54:30–124:37| | Rosehill’s stolen Hyundai story | 95:03–104:22| | Rosehill on Leafs/leadership/fashion | 125:05–132:20| | RA’s World — Halloween movies, classic recs | 136:27–168:02|

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RA's World (Second Edition):

Halloween Movies, Old-School Recs, and NHL Stories (#136:27)

• RA’s costume: Ray Brower from "Stand By Me"—an obscure, grisly, and on-theme choice.
• Classic horror picks:
  • Halloween (Carpenter), Psycho, The Exorcist, The Omen, The Shining.
• Fun trivia: Michael Myers mask in “Halloween” is a painted William Shatner mask (#159:51).
• Classic recommendation: Casablanca (1942), “trust me, five warthogs out of five.”
• Feel-good NHL story: 65yo rec-league goalie gets NHL practice time with the Sharks (#165:55).
• Broadway and culture: Reavo brings teammates to shows, Hamilton gets high props (#166:17).

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Episode Tone and Style

The episode exudes the classic Chiclets flair: unfiltered, funny, at times chaotic, but rich in character, storytelling, hockey insight, and pop-culture references. Each host's personality shines through—Biz chirping as the Pope, Whit as the critical analyst, Keith’s dry wit, RA’s encyclopedic knowledge—while Jay Rosehill delivers nostalgia, raw honesty, and rugged old-school energy.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

• If you like: NHL analysis with major personality, athlete storytelling, locker-room tales, sports culture debates, and a side dish of classic movie talk—this is your episode.
• Don't miss:
  • The behind-the-scenes look at YouTube’s golf explosion (and its trainwreck moment).
  • Rosehill’s wild, earnest recounting of a journey from undrafted small-town Alberta kid, through the minor pro gauntlet, to NHL enforcer, and now a firefighter/leafs analyst.
  • NHL contract debates, rumors, and frank talk on player image and leadership.
  • “RA’s World” for Halloween movie buffs and trivia hounds.

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Memorable Closing

• The group closes with acknowledgments for Jay Rosehill’s candor, Halloween costume reveals, and love for Barstool’s departed friend, Beef.
• RA’s classic recommendation: Casablanca, with a plea for the new generation to give classics a chance.#172:49–#165:55.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[RA]

Hey, Spit and Chiclets listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Jay Rose Hill]

You're standing inside a secret prison.

[RA]

It houses the Nazi high command.

[Biz]

I'm going to put Hermann Goering on trial.

[RA]

Sony Pictures Classics presents Nuremberg. Starring Academy Award winner Russell Crowe, Academy Award winner Rami Malek and Academy Award nominee Michael Shannon.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Do you plead guilty or not guilty?

[RA]

Schulte.

[Keith]

Order.

[RA]

Order.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Nuremberg opens only in theaters everywhere November 7th. You're standing inside a secret prison.

[RA]

It houses the Nazi high command.

[Biz]

I'm gonna put Hermann Goering on trial.

[RA]

Sony Pictures Classics presents Nuremberg. Starring Academy Award winner Russell Crowe, Academy Award winner Rami Malek and Academy Award nominee Michael Shannon.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Do you plead guilty or not guilty?

[RA]

Nuremberg. Now playing only in theaters. Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is Bastool Sports.

[Biz]

I brought it towards the coyotes and I asked them if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chicklets podcast full time.

[Whit]

Ryan Whitney's got a pink Whitney out there now.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Sandbagger.

[Biz]

Get that on camera.

[Whit]

Keith Yandel, the sonk man. Kate is a full time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris.

[Keith]

Whoa. We're buzzing right now.

[Whit]

What is up, folks? Happy Halloween. Welcome to episode 592 of the Spit and Chiclets podcast. We got Ra's World, we got Jay Rose Hill, but we got a new presenting sponsor as well, and that's Discover. Sponsored by Discover. We're the luckiest men on earth. The official credit card of the NHL. No matter if your team wins or loses, Discover is there for you with cash back on all your post game purchases. With the Discover it card, you earn cash back on every purchase. So celebratory wings just got even better. Learn [e-mail] credit card cash back on team gear, Cash back on tickets. Cash back on fries. Etc. The Discover NHL Winter Classic is taking place on January 2, 2026 in Miami, Florida. Tune into TNT. Get cash back on every purchase with the Discover it card. Learn more at discover.com credit card biz.

[Biz]

You've done one episode of Ra's World and now we're getting sponsored by Discover. Not a big deal.

[Whit]

Hey everybody, figure it out. Figure it out. Discover said you bring RA back in the fold. We'll hop on win with you guys. What a pleasure.

[Biz]

Yeah. Oh, and they're awesome to work with. I've been fortunate enough where when we do those, those winter classic or live events, they have like a kind of like where all the fans can go Gather. And I've done a few like, autograph picture sessions and they're just first class. So easy to work with. Everybod. Everybody's always in a good mood. So looking forward to continuing that and of course making them our new presenting sponsor of our Friday show. So this is. We're moving on up. Moving on up.

[Whit]

Pope John Paul Fizz. Nasty.

[Biz]

Yeah. Yeah, we got our. We got our Halloween costumes on right now for you people listening. So I'm. I'm Pope John Paul III or the 67th because the last time.

[Whit]

And we got Batman. Are you Shrek? Are you like haunted Shrek?

[Keith]

I think it's just like a. I don't know. What are those called?

[Biz]

Frankenstein.

[Keith]

Frankenstein. Yeah. Well, funny story, when I was getting this, you guys don't. You guys didn't watch Jersey Shore, right?

[Biz]

I watched a little bit of it.

[Keith]

But the guy, the guy Danny. The guy Danny who owned the Shore store, who owned the house that they lived in. He was working at the, at the costume shop he owns. He owns like a bunch of spirit Halloweens pop up shops during the. During the thing. He's a huge Montreal Canadiens fan. So I was chatting with him.

[Jay Rose Hill]

He.

[Keith]

He actually told me to dress up as a clown with a leaf jersey.

[Jay Rose Hill]

To be biz original.

[Keith]

But I said no, I wasn't going to do that. But he's a huge fan of the show and it was good to see him.

[Biz]

Do you know this guy who was on the local news in Florida who did a. Like a silly. He decorated his front yard Halloween stuff and he had like the Tampa Bay Lightning that had a. What do you call those when they tombstone someone dies?

[Keith]

They got the tombstone.

[Biz]

The tombstone. The tombstone. And then they had.

[Keith]

That was actually my yard. That was my yard. I just had somebody else do it. Yeah.

[Biz]

And then they had a biz idiot with the Ambassador jacket and the Leafs tie and. And. Yeah, and a tombstone along with that. So I thought that that was pretty creative. I retweeted it. It was a local news station that picked that one up and. Yeah, well, I thought I'd just bring it up because it's Halloween.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah.

[Whit]

Halloween's always fun with the kids. We'll be bombing around tonight. We'll be just looking to collect candy. We got one of those. It's. We got the 8am game in Salem, New Hampshire, the morning after Halloween. That's, that's, you know, when coaches. And they look at the schedule at the beginning of the year and they kind of mark down like what are going to be pro some probable. Ls that. That's a probable L right there. That's L. And I think the team's like 10. And oh, that we're playing. So that's. But whatever. Hey, Halloween night kids will be crushing candy and we'll be having candy on the way to the rink sometimes. It gives them energy. So.

[Biz]

And the fact that I believe game six of the World Series is also on Halloween night, so this is amazing biz.

[Whit]

They're. They're. I'm not going to say it. Baseball city.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Whit]

But they're looking good right now, buddy.

[Biz]

They are. I'm not going to. Yeah, I'm not going to pump. Pump them too hard. I'm just going to stay even keel. That's what you have to do in these types of situations. Business as usual. Job's not finished. But very proud of the way they responded. They. That 18 inning game. Stayed up the whole time to watch that. That was fucking insane. I read a stat too. It was on Twitter. It was a Kenny Chesney or one of the other artists who sang the anthem of that game, Brad Paisley. It's Brad Paisley. He sang four World Series anthems and every single one of them have went to extra innings. And two of them have both went to 18 innings, which applied the. The record for longest World Series game. So that's kind of a wacky stat. But the fact that they lose that one in heartbreak fashion and then respond by winning two more on the road, just bonkers. And then to open up game five with back to back jacks on the first two pitches against one of the best pitchers in baseball, or at least from this year, just remarkable. So if they do not close out on Friday, when I'm in Ottawa with Tom Green doing his podcast, I am flying on Saturday afternoon to Toronto and I will be at game seven.

[Whit]

Now, is that Keith, Is that like good or bad for the.

[Biz]

Shut the fuck up. They had the Vladdy wore Matthews jersey. Ok, there's no you said that. Oh, there's.

[RA]

Oh.

[Biz]

Why would you do that?

[Whit]

I'm rooting for the chase, dude.

[Biz]

Yeah, I know, but you're trying to do what you did last, Paul, with that stupid face again.

[Whit]

I got a fucking Batman mask on my face. What are you talking about? Are you saying Batman stupid.

[Biz]

Yeah, you should have wore the fucking Joker costume.

[RA]

You got hands like a priest.

[Keith]

Even keel. What happened to you being even keel? You came unhinged.

[Biz]

I ain't on the fucking team, ok? I'm playing fucking cleanup with this fucking bum ass right here.

[Keith]

We need it to go to seven. We need it to go to seven.

[Whit]

I know, because biz might get on the broad. Biz. What will you wear to the game Game seven jersey.

[Keith]

A sweater with a bow on it?

[Biz]

No, I will have no memorabilia on. Probably a spitting Chicklets hat. And I'm just gonna, I'm gonna stay even keel and neutral. I don't want to be. And then if they pull it off, I'm gonna be on the field fucking buck naked.

[Whit]

Okay. I mean, that's gonna be baby blues. Those jerseys are silk. Those baby blue jerseys are unreal.

[Biz]

I like the white ones the best, personally.

[Whit]

Yeah. But for the road, I like those ones better than. Because they have darker ones too. Right, for the road games.

[RA]

Yep.

[Biz]

Yep. But that was not the only thing going crazy online this week. The Internet Invitational was dropped. And I would say that's the biggest thing in golf in a long time. Even bigger than the Writer Cup.

[Keith]

Oh, yeah.

[Whit]

Yeah. I think just, I mean, that's all barstool people, and it was big. But you're bringing in people and brands that have millions of followers into this. I don't know how you would describe it. Like a heavenly place in, in, in the Ozarks. Big Cedar Lodge, like, unbelievable spot. I'd love to go back at some point. And there was one story from the first episode. The first episode, g says, has 3.2 million views. So that's in 48 hours. I, I, we can't really spoil much, but the first episode's been out, and Luke Kwan was the storyline. Luke Kwan. So for backstory here, this guy was like, I guess he's an incredible golfer. Not, I guess he is an incredible golfer. He's won on the PGA Tour China, which is kind of like the minor leagues of the PGA Tour a little bit, I think, and played at Oklahoma, and he was the first pick, and he was paired with a good buddy of ours, PFT commenter, one of the co hosts of Pardon My Take, the biggest sports podcast on Earth. And PFT's not very good. He's like a 22 handicap. So we put him for the scramble with. Well, not we.

[RA]

Bob.

[Whit]

Bob does was our captain. They put them together and it was kind of like, hey, we probably won't. We're thinking, everyone's thinking, probably won't use many of PFT shots, if any. And this guy Quanzo can win the match himself. Well, he slept through his tee time, and I, I've never seen somebody who made a mistake with less remorse in my life. And it Wasn't about sleeping through. It was like, sleeping through is one thing. And if you show up, it was also a 9:30 tea time. If you sleep through a tee time and you're kind of letting teammates down and you bomb up there and you're. Guys, I'm so sorry. I. I, like, I am so, like, sick to your stomach. You could tell when someone's genuinely, like, you know, feeling really bad about what they've done. I think the whole squad would be like, that's all right, dude. Like, just go get him. Like, do what you can. And this guy shows up, and he didn't give a flying. He started chirping his partner, pft, who's been grinding out there alone against two good golfers.

[Biz]

Well, PFT asked him for a read, and he's like, well, it's over here, but it doesn't matter. You're not going to make it. And he's just like, how about some positive reinforcement here, Like. And PFT had a good putt, and Quan misread it. So another L. And then you go to the next hole. And now Quan was talking all this smack the night before, like, we're not even gonna need to use one of your shots. And the neck. So now they're down four because he got sussy for four holes. Well, the first shot he ends up taking, PFT was closer than him on the par three, so he wasn't even bringing his end to the fucking bargain.

[Whit]

And the next whole PFT's approach shot was the one they used. So just one of those things where I, you know, and I'm going to be open and honest. I. I was giving it to this guy. I was disgusted. I was more. It was all about how he reacted. I was like, this guy is like a legit asshole. Like, he. He could care less. And he's so. And he's chirping one of our buddies who's his partner. And so I'm giving it to him. And. And it's just like, looking back on it, like, he just didn't seem like a very good guy.

[Biz]

I don't know.

[Keith]

I don't know what else you said. What everybody. You said what everybody was thinking. What you did was a hundred percent in the right. Like, you were. Everyone was thinking what you were going to say. You just happened to be the. I don't think you came off as like a. Or anything.

[Jay Rose Hill]

You.

[Whit]

I don't even. Yeah, I don't even care.

[Keith]

At the end of the. At the end of the day, we were a team trying to win fucking $330,000 a guy. And he screwed people out of that money. And you told him how it was because he's never been a part of a team like we have. Like, if that happened in the NHL locker room, you don't think. Fucking Sid.

[Biz]

I feel like golfers have a little bit of a different mentality. I think that Roan had a live stream, it was yesterday or the day before, and he kind of touched on it. Where some of the golfers, in my opinion, do come off as a little bit pompous. And it's just like they were never in a hockey locker room. You do that, you're going to get put in your place pretty soon. And Gans just touched on it. Like, there was $1.7 million in prize money up for grab. So the first round of matches, I think I believe the. The score was 8 to 4 as opposed to if they would have won that guaranteed match seven to five, which is a lot more manageable. And I'm not going to give away how it ends up finishing off, but you can sewer half of the field because it was cut in half. And essentially he sewered half the field because we ended up being down eight to four after the first round of matches. So the lack of remorse was. Was on top of sleeping in. And then the insulting of the partner just really added fuel to the fire. And I think, as you know, Whit, you touched and Yan, you touched. I think that you had every right to kind of say what everybody was feeling. Some people had the opinion like, that, that they like barstool and the edit blew it out of proportion. I really don't think it did. I think what it did is it taught somebody a lesson in real time. And eventually the. The court of public opinion kind of took over. And that's.

[Whit]

I don't even think, like, I still don't think this guy gets it. Like, he released like an Instagram thing. He's like, yeah, I said sorry to Portnoy and Bob does and the guys there. I didn't want to sleep in. It's like, buddy, it wasn't even really about the sleeping, dude. It was the actions after the sleep in. And you know what? Like, there was like hundreds of other. Maybe not hundreds, but a lot of other people who really wanted to play in that that were reaching out to Bob does and reaching out to Foreplay and Kirk and like, he obviously, like, didn't care. And then I see comments like, oh, I love seeing Luke Kwan not taking a bar stool Thing Seriously, them it's like, okay, so dude, you're telling me you, you're happy that he's like making a mockery of a barstool production when in actuality he's kind of like screwing over 23 other teammates, a lot of. A lot of whom like that money is completely life changing.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Oh yeah.

[Whit]

So just didn't. Didn't just not a good, not a good teammate at all. But it's very well done. The. There are three hours and like 30 minutes all the episodes. But I enjoyed the first one and.

[Biz]

Some people who are don't follow Barstool or Bob does, they're going to be splitting. The video goes between Bob does had the first one, then Foreplay is going to get the second one and then it's going to rotate back and forth and I believe the last one is going to be released on a brand new YouTube channel. That's the Internet Invitational. Because I would imagine with the response to this video and some people were like, oh, why are you starting out the pod with this? Well, this thing in, in just over 24 hours has 3.2 million views. So I would imagine by the time a week goes by, it's probably close to 5 million. This is one of the biggest things to happen to Internet YouTube Golf maybe ever. So that's why we're leading off the show and hopefully some of you who do like the golf stuff, it directs you towards there. If you have not watched this so awesome experience. I want to thank Bob does in the foreplay.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Guys.

[Biz]

Like my match wasn't even shown because much like the Quan Pft match, I, me and Gruden were sacrificial lamb. I played against this Brad Dalki guy. He played in the Masters. I've never, I've never seen someone outside of maybe Dustin Johnson one drive at. @ Gazer. I'd never seen anybody hit a golf ball like that. It was mesmerizing.

[Whit]

Yeah, seeing him play that like on the range, like hit him hit balls. It's like think this guy like has to give it another go. Like professional golf. Like watching on the range there was, I mean there's a lot of very good golfers there that and, and people are standing around watching them kind of in awe. But biz, I was a little upset that, that you and Gruden, which I imagine was a great group to be hanging out together, there wasn't more shown. I kind of wanted to see some more content with you two guys.

[Keith]

Gruden's the second match. Second match is Me and you versus the Duke.

[Biz]

Duke and Josh Richards. I had a blast playing with the.

[Keith]

So fun.

[Biz]

Josh Richards is the man. And then, oh, it did suck that I didn't get to watch me and Gruden because there was a lot of me just asking about his football and, and all these like legendary stories where I was asking like, what's the, what's the craziest situation that you've been a part of on the, on the football field? I had no idea that he was involved in a tuck rule.

[Whit]

He got in the snow in New England. It started the dynasty, baby.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Biz]

So if, if I know that it wasn't shown, but if there's anything I could get in return, it's the fact that not only do we get to maybe do a sandbagger with Gruden.

[Keith]

Oh yeah.

[Biz]

To get him for a sit down interview because talk about an all time storyteller. And having been part of the football world for so long and his, his ability to absorb and articulate all these moments that he's been through, I would say second to none. And I would put him as top three best hires that Dave Portnoy has ever hired.

[Whit]

Yeah, he's amazing. Incredible hire. And, and G made a good point here that maybe if we ask Barstool, they'll let us put on the Chiclets, YouTube all the footage of you two guys in the cart that day because they have all of it on the backlog, so maybe that would work.

[Biz]

Yeah, that or we get to get them again for another golf match. And then also he sent you that wonderful care package. So I think that's it for golf. So check that out. And yeah, it was an awesome experience. And shout out to Foreplay Barstool and, and Bob does for throwing all that on.

[Whit]

Yeah. So Tuesday night we had every team in the league playing, which is awesome. Right? They got the staggered starts. I saw RA tweet about that. That's a big, big hit. Every game, just 15 minute difference. And you could kind of catch the ends of all these games if they're close. I thought it was, I thought it was a success. Now I do have one issue. I got home from practice with Ryder and was kind of all fired up to turn it on. I thought it was like whatever 6 to 10. It ended at like 7:30. I was like, wait, what? Or maybe 8. But all of a sudden it was over. So then it was just a normal night of getting on ESPN plus and whatever channel the games are on and kind of trying to find all different Games. But I thought they would have it on ESPN2 or ESPN for four hours, right? Where you're just going around every game. But it was. I think they only did an hour and a half, maybe a little bit more. Kind of think it should have been a little longer. I don't know if that was noise out there as well, but some great games, dude. I mean, we saw some hatred between the Flyers and Penguins at the end of that game. Old school. And I. I think Achary, if he had gotten to. If he had gotten to Zegris, he might have killed him. Zegras went down. It was. I. I kind of give the kid credit, just, you know, that Penguins, Flyers rivalry, close game. End of the game, it's going to a shootout. He goes down, and Achary's on the ground, just rips his helmet off. Achary got up like a legit bull at the running. What is that? The running of the bulls in Spain. So he wasn't able to get to him. Thank God for. For Zegris, but a great game there. And Crosby, people were saying he left the bench biz. You got a 10 gamer for that.

[Biz]

But I got a 10 gamer. Reduced to three games, thankfully. It would have cost me 70 grand. Ended up costing me 11 grand. I would have had a nervous breakdown if it would have cost me 70. 70 stacks.

[Whit]

But overall, great night of hockey. And I know a Caulfield with another.

[Biz]

Overtime goal set the record for the Montreal Canadiens. I know that you were. You're like, ah, that wasn't a thing back then. If it was, Gretzky would have had fucking 53 on three goals because he was that good. Probably wouldn't be a record in itself because of all the greats who have played for the Montreal Canadiens. I don't think we need to downplay this. Cole Caulfield is very young in his career. There was also a stat, I believe I sent it over to the group on how many games it maybe g can put. Pull that one up. But definitely a remarkable start for Cole Caufield and making his bid for the Olympic team as this Montreal team continues to be very, very exciting to watch. A lot of overtime games pushing it to the limits. The other takeaway, Connor Bedard, first career NHL hat trick.

[Whit]

What say? And all three goals were incredible. Thank you. Were incredible goals. Sorry, Was that Batwoman? That was Batwoman.

[Biz]

She was.

[Whit]

She was kind of looking to jump Batman's bones, too. Thanks, man.

[Biz]

Don't get a boner in that suit.

[Whit]

I'm working right now. Sweetie. But Snipes. And then he actually added an assist as well. And Chicago, climbing the ranks of fun teams to watch. A great fan, a great guy who's been down in the dumps for a long time now. He's all in on this team he loves. And it is very true how the attitude has changed completely in Chicago. And I think that Blash Hill, who Coop talked about a lot, I think he makes a big difference there. Obviously, something has changed that Renzel on D is an awesome player. We've talked about Nazar, but Bedard has reached a different level. He looks phenomenal. And. And it's great. And I saw a couple tweets where it seems like every night celebrity does something great. A lot of Twitter talks about, oh, he's so much better than Bedard. He's so much better than Bedard. It's like they weren't the same draft. Now maybe being from Vancouver area is part of it, but let's just enjoy the fact that they're both awesome, right? They're both incredible players. And Bedard is a different. He's a different player right now that those goals were out of control.

[Biz]

Perfect mug confidence, compete. Just like, you could tell he's got his, his, his juice. Oh, I like the mug there. Went very, very on brand, very on theme. And like, you like the way he's playing, you got to think that maybe at some point, maybe he's getting Team Canada consideration, right? Like, they got, I would say, for. For the. The youth movement. Him or Celebrini, I would guess one of them ends up getting. Getting on the squad. So I don't. I don't know if there was any other major takeaways from the Frozen Frenzy other than Minnesota is. Is struggling here out of the gate, boys. Not great so far. Favor was struggling. Had a big game last game. I think he was put on the power play and had some games he's had.

[Whit]

He's had a couple big nights. He was really struggling at three assists and then a goal and an assist. So that's good. And you know what was cool? He sat in front of the media and he really took ownership of his own game and he was kind of disgusted with his own play. And I like seeing that right like that. That takes a lot. I mean, I know I. Maybe I'm blowing it out of proportion a little bit, but you're standing up there and you're like, I have not been good enough. And that's kind of when the contract maybe, maybe messes with guys a little Bit where you're. You're thinking about it and then you're struggling. Like, I'm not living up to the contract and I'm kind of speaking from personal experience here, but good to see him bounce back. And there was an article in the Athletic, Billy G. He met with the leadership and more talking about, like, what do we need to do? What. What really needs to happen in Minnesota is, is their, their kind of straw that stirs the drink, I think is Zuccarello. They need him back, right? Like they need him back in the fold. And once he's back, I'm not too worried about Minnie. It's early enough. Not really worried about any teams that we consider would be good right now that aren't playing great, but definitely wanted to get off to a better start.

[Biz]

The last man they're in the central like that. That division is going to be an absolute grind all season. Yeah, it's going to be a fucking. It's going to be a gauntlet as. As they say.

[Keith]

And I also think they gotta, they gotta take the reins off of Z Bouilliam too. Like he's playing 15 minutes a game as like a guy who's coming. Like all the hype around him coming out of college is like he's gonna provide offense. And as a young stud D man, like you got to play more than that to get confidence and get feels in the puck and like he's been doing a good job on the power play. I know they put Faber out there to get him going a little bit too, but they got to give him a little bit more minutes out there, spread the minutes out like Boldy and. And Korilla playing 22 minutes a night. Like they got to find a way to spread the love around a little bit with that whole team because riding two guys up front is not going to help. Zuk too with you said I played with him. One of the best teammates. Just he's. He's so good at keeping it light when, you know, things might not, you know, be in the best position. So even times like this of them losing a little bit, not having him in the locker room, being out there in practice, keeping things loose, keeping things fun. It kills him right now, but when he comes back and boo him, starts getting a few more minutes, I think they'll be fine.

[Whit]

Final things from the Frozen Frenzy Wild game in Denver, Colorado. Went up five nothing against Pasha's Devils. All of a sudden it's five four. They end up winning eight four. It was, it was very entertaining. To watch. Just high flying teams, a lot of offense. And then Edmonton, I mean Darnell, they're down two nothing quick to Utah. They make it two, two. Darnell, the first two goals against it was insane. And then they go down three two when Skinner misplaced the puck behind the net. But they end up winning that game. 6:3. So hopefully Edmonton goes a cool night. When every team plays. It's pretty, it's pretty interesting and, and fun to follow along. So hopefully frozen frenzy next year. The actual broadcast of it is longer. The big news I think is the signings guys. Some studs, some absolute studs. So the biggest one I think Colorado and Martin Neches, right? Eight year deal, eleven and a half I think very fair for both sides. Front loaded. He's got 60 million in signing bonuses and, and a full mo no move clause the first seven years of the new deal that will start next season obviously. So there was a little bit of worry of what he would end up wanting and you got to get him in, in the, in the fold and all signed up once you didn't get Ronton in. And so I think that that guy's going to fit in there perfectly for a long time now. All the questions kind of will be asked come playoff time, but I think ABS fans are fired up for that signing biz.

[Biz]

Oh big time. I think that. Well, who knows what the actual real information is. It seems like rotten and screw was. Was at 14, 13 and a half and we're staying firm there. So I think with a little bit more youthful, obviously that speed that he possesses and how he's able to match it with with Nate and has that chemistry to get him, you know, for the eight year deal at essentially $2 million cheaper. If that was the number, I think that's great. I think it takes a little bit of pressure off nature not coming off as greedy. Fans will probably give him a little bit of leniency in that regard. But I think that that's an incredible number for both sides and you know, I think that the playoff performance is yet to be judged. I don't think we've seen like true nature come playoff time where he's buzzing around and looks like he is at his peak. That is yet to be determined. But I couldn't be happier for the guy and, and, and fits him perfectly. It it, it like it justifies the trade now in my opinion. Yes it does. You know, and, and as, as. As regretful as it. It probably felt in, in game seven against Dallas last year, I think you know Lyles did touch on it. It's not like he kind of set us on fire. I think two of the goals he said, what he said about him, the one was obviously an absol. But yeah, I think it puts a little, a little less salt in the wound on losing Ran and for sure.

[Keith]

And I think, I think for him too it's like, hey, you get eight more years to play with one of the greatest players to ever play. Sign me up. He's going to get 30, 40 goals a year. By the end of that contract, guys who are scoring 30 to 40 goals are going to be making $15 million. So he'll be a bargain by the end. I mean it's a good deal right now, but I think it's a, I think it's a huge signing for them. Does it not feel like I remember playing against Natrius in Carolina, like he was obviously a great player. I don't remember him being this fast. Like is it him trying to keep up with Nader? Like just, it just seems like he has a different gear.

[Whit]

I think it was the team, the way they played. Now Carolina is a very quick team so maybe I'm wrong there, but maybe their, their system right. They didn't really let him like freewheel running done.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah.

[Whit]

Now Hurricanes fans may tell me I'm crazy and basically if you talk to Carolina fans, they'll say that you'll see 10 games of him with 15 points and it's like the best player in the league and in the next 10 games you don't notice them. I don't know if Colorado fans have seen any of the inconsistency yet, but when he's on, he's on. And I think the way Colorado plays fits his game personally way better.

[Biz]

I think that, that people would also say the same thing about Rotten and maybe not as much inconsistency. But I, I, I also think as far as the speed they do a lot of the natures is allowed to swing down and then either the defenseman or other forward will like access the red line, maybe get closer to the blue line and then drop it back. So from the stylistic and system standpoint, he's able to build speed more and play more into his favor. He also is probably getting to the peak of his strength. Right. He just turned, I think he just turned 26 years old and it goes back to they get a little bit more youthful where they give him the eight year deal. Rotten and is 29. Right. So I feel like you're getting a cheaper value with him. And you're getting more prime years, so.

[Whit]

Yep.

[Biz]

Yeah, it's. There's a lot to factor in, but definitely inconsistency is a word that surrounds nature with his play and talking about.

[Whit]

Ronton, Thoughts and prayers for Ethan Frank. Did you see this kid try to hit?

[Biz]

Oh, yeah.

[Whit]

You're wondering why he's called the Moose. I mean, he's, like, going pretty fast and just runs into Ronton's back and was leaving the game like he had a broken sternum. It was like, oh, my God. Like, Ronton and I saw Ron 10 off the ice at the Four Nations. We're talking 6, 5, 2, 40, I think maybe 230, but it looks like a tight end. Yeah, he looks like Gronk. Look, just a house of a human. So Ethan Frank, good job trying to get in there, but oh, my God. Next time, just maybe a stick check on that guy. Poor guy was going off wounded. I hate seeing that.

[Biz]

And with the next one, I mean, it goes back to kind of the Bedard discussion, right? The next contract that was signed. And I think that we should probably, as a podcast, get a slight percentage of that deal for. For getting it over the goal line.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, we do.

[Whit]

I really wish that Ryan Smith had. He could have just broke that news with us. Right then I heard it was done before we even had him on.

[Keith]

He was gonna, but G kicked him off.

[Biz]

Oh, that's right.

[Keith]

Yeah, he was about to tell us.

[Biz]

Yeah, no, it was Peasant. Peasant tossed them. Still working out the years.

[Whit]

Times 10 million.

[Keith]

Nice bridge deal.

[Whit]

I mean, how I. How do you not love that contract? I mean, you've seen this kid so far this year. He's made a step last year from the year before. Already a bigger step this year. The team's humming along, and you're telling me in six years, that kid's still making 10 million bucks? It's like, I. I think it's an amazing contract. He's got 80 million. The kid's set for life. He's going to sign another monster deal at some point. The team's laughing. They got him locked up now. I think they're. They're looking towards Schwartz and then what he wants, what he's going to expect. It's a little different. He's UFC schmaltzy. Yeah, schmaltzy. Oh, what did I say? Sorry, Schwartz.

[Biz]

But, yeah, I get it. Cause the guys in Seattle, there's a Schwartz, Schultz Samsonite. It's right here on the briefcase. But great deal. Like, I mean, that's why I Said like, I wonder like, what Bedard get. I feel like if. If you're. If you're a GM and you're seeing what you see from both players, like, who would you rather sign? If it was the same amount of money, like, who would you want? Right.

[Whit]

So Bedard, in my mind.

[Biz]

Wow. Okay.

[Whit]

Yeah. I think the shot, goal scoring. I now, yeah, that's a good. That's a good question. But I'd rather cyber. If I'm Chicago, I'm going to Bedard. I'm like, maybe start at 11 and a half, then you go to 12. And do you think he's just like, no, I don't know.

[Biz]

But that's why I say that because, like, I feel like they have like they're. They're basically neck and neck. And that's why I'm saying it's such a good deal is like all of a sudden you get the 8 times 10 where I get that he's got that first overall aura and all that. I just, you know, I think that, man, are you going to have to overpay because of that. And, and they got a lot of guys who, who, who.

[Keith]

Cooley's got more help around him too. Right. Like, Bedard's kind of on an island by himself.

[Biz]

That's right.

[Keith]

Cool. He's got some studs around. He's more of a playmaker, I would say. And Bedard, you know, a pure goal scorer, but they're both going to be getting paid in the shade.

[Biz]

Interesting.

[Whit]

Yeah. Cooley, Cooley, he had more goals than him last year. Bedard had two more than him their rookie year. And this, this year Cooley's got eight and Bedard has six. So I guess looking at the numbers, it's not that different biz.

[Biz]

That's what I. That's why I just threw out that comp. Because I know it just sometimes with that first overall and that aura and that all the attention surrounding him, I, I agree with you. I think that, that the way that he started out, if he continues as such, by the summertime, it's going to be eight times 12 and a half, 13. And they're going to. He's going to have them by the balls. But at what point are you like, oh my God, we're just overpaying for that as opposed to this kid down the road, he's 8, 8 times 10 and he's doing the same. So, like, what's the comp? So, yeah.

[Whit]

But guard has a little more leverage. I feel like based, like, based on.

[Keith]

Kind of the face of the franchise.

[Biz]

I don't agree with that. Because you don't. Clayton Keller is coming due for contract. Schmaltzi's coming due for contract. Like, they don't have those guys locked in yet. So I, I don't necessarily agree with that either, but sometimes we get in the weeds on these contract discussions. I don't want to take away from the fact that we're happy about him and this guy earned every goddamn cent. And, you know, a Pittsburgh kid getting that much fucking dough is like base year.

[Keith]

He's going to buy Pittsburgh.

[Biz]

Yeah, you're going to buy, you know, pirates.

[Whit]

Keller only has two more years after this year.

[Biz]

Yeah, you know, he's, he's, he's going to become due for money. I think, I think Schmaltz is up at the end of this year, so, you know, a little bit of work to do to keep that group together, but a hell of a start with him and Gunther and the chemistry that they've developed. And then, of course, Paterka, so they got him locked in as well. So for at least the next six years, those three will be playing together.

[Whit]

And the last one, very one in Dallas. Big one, Big one. We got Thomas Harley, who has been a machine since he came into the league. Eight year extension, 10.59 per year. So, I mean, he had 16 goals last year, finished seventh in Norris Trophy voting. He's the fourth highest paid defenseman in the NHL starting next season, making, I think it's over 2 million more per year than Heskinen. But it, it's kind of, it's kind of come to the point where he's. He's their power play guy a little more than Heskin more.

[Biz]

He's got more points so far to start the year with. And every time the Heiskin's gone down with injury, he has been the guy they've counted on. And that, to me, is why he deserves the money. And if I'm the agent, I'm saying, hey, it's not like. It's not like they're playing together and his plays going down when he's out of the lineup. It's kind of like the Malcolm Crosby when everyone. Crosby would go down and Malcolm would say, okay, team, hop on. And, you know, he's relied on in every situation. He's unreal with the puck. He's good defensively, he's got a long body, long stick. And it's. This just goes back to Dallas and their drafting. Like, this guy was an 18th overall pick. And to they just can't fucking miss, man. So he came on the scene a few years back where I want to say he played maybe even less than half the games that year. Maybe only like 20 regular season and then he played in playoffs and people were like who the fuck is this guy?

[Whit]

Yeah.

[Biz]

And, and in the last two years he's done what is done what he's done. Including with the absence of Haskin and what was it towards the end of last regular season and partway through playoffs. Yeah, he missed four nations and, and four nations. So he's the guy and I think that he's worth every penny of that, that deal.

[Whit]

So Dallas has they got Ronson and signed long term. They got Hint signed long term. They got Wyatt Johnson long term. Matthew Shane's got three more years after this year. Heskin in three more years after this year. Essen Dell four more years after this year. Harley with a long term deal. So their core sign. Now the question being Jason Robertson, he'll be an RFA after this season.

[Biz]

He's fucking lightening up the start of the year too. So what do you do?

[Whit]

I don't know what's going to happen. I don't really see the money there for him unless he would be willing to take a pretty big discount. Maybe I'm wrong based on the cap numbers going up.

[Biz]

I think with what you just saw nature skit, he's probably saying I'm, I'm in Dallas, no state tax. I think that he could Fairly ask for 8 times 10. That's a like look at, look at his numbers and look at his numbers when in playoffs and like when, when, when they go dry. In some certain cases he'll be the only guy and they got 17 million in cap space for next season. I've, I have said this though. And Dallas fans will defend him to the death. And that's why I say is he a guy that I want in the foxhole trying to win a Stanley Cup? I don't know. He's, he's, he's not the fastest guy. He's not the most aggressive guy. But somehow in those times when they need goal scoring he's the one guy.

[Whit]

Providing it so well when Hintz is playing.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Right.

[Whit]

Hints makes a big difference for him I think. True.

[Biz]

Agreed. Agreed. By so what are you paying him? Do you believe he's a foxhole guy in Dallas?

[Whit]

I love his game as I love I, I, I think he wins a Stanley cup when he's like the third best forward on your team. You know like he would be, he.

[Biz]

Would be getting paid like what, the second best?

[Whit]

Yeah.

[Keith]

I, I just think with like his name has been talked about so much in trades that I feel like guys like that, that their names always floated around always end up getting traded. So I honestly don't see him staying there.

[Biz]

I think that you could, if, if you could do like a sign and swap somehow. I think that there's other areas of their game they could address where they could still be as relevant as they are if they're able to get enough back. That's. I agree with you Yance. And also not have to pay one guy. 10, 11, 12. I don't know what he's asking for. I would imagine it's not much less than 10 million. I mean what's his points per game over his career? What's his playoffs points, Points per game?

[Whit]

Robertson's numbers, I actually looked when this outline came because they are pretty ridiculous.

[RA]

Dude.

[Biz]

Like he, I bet you he's close to a point per game.

[Keith]

Six playoff games, he's got 44 points.

[Whit]

And I mean his last, last year 80 points. The year before that, 80 points. The year before that,. 109. The year before that 79. And then basically his first year's rookie year was 45 points at 51 games. So this year nine points in 10 games. He is a legitimate point per game player.

[Biz]

He's over a point per game. He's got 403 and 384 played throughout his career. He's a two time 40 goal scorer if you count the 29 goal year. He's fucking hit 34 times in the last four years.

[Keith]

So he's getting over 10.

[Biz]

He's getting over 10. So I don't know what, what happens with, with, with Jason Robertson.

[Whit]

I know. But Dallas, one of those, just a really solid team off to a pretty good start. They will be right in the mix come May. Everyone knows it.

[Biz]

Dallas fans. We were. I thought that they would be maybe in limbo this year. I wasn't sure what we were going to see from Dallas. If anything a little bit critical. Knew they were going to make playoffs. But don't scare me like years past. Those are the times where, where sometimes teams like that flare under the radar and if they make the right moves, who knows. But Ottinger's playing great and, and so is the team. And they got Jamie Ben coming back soon.

[Whit]

Yep. Matt Barzell may have pulled a Luke Kwan and, and slept through his alarm because he's going to be a healthy scratch this Evening, Thursday night, I guess Patrick was said he missed a meeting, missed a team meeting and showed up late to the rink. And that's kind of ballsy move by the coach. I don't know if it's ballsy move, actually, but it's more like, hey, I don't really care who it is on this team. You show up late to the rink, you ain't playing that night. What do you think? You don't like it?

[Biz]

So I get setting the precedent and setting the example. To me, if it's a guy that makes that big of a difference, I would actually handle this with. With any guy. Even if it was a fourth liner, I would make a little bit light of it, and I would, in the meeting, say, I better see your best game of the year and get the boys fired up around it and. And kind of create a little bit of morale. I feel like they've been so exciting to watch. They've had a great start. The fan base is engaged. Listen, if they can go out there and win that game without them and you set that example, I think that's also positive. But I don't. And maybe he pulled him in and said, hey, listen, buddy, I don't want to do this, but I got to set the example. I just personally would have spun it a different way and said, you're starting tonight. You're reading the fucking lineup card. Let's have a chuckle. But you better be fucking going. You better be fucking shooting lightning bolts out of your ass. You better be setting up Shaffer back door. You better have three app, three primary assists. Skating your dick off out there tonight.

[Keith]

Yeah, I think. Cause at the end of the day, it obviously could have stayed in house, right? Like, no one could have known that he was late for the meeting or whatever. But I mean, good for Patty wa. I guess setting the precedence for the team, like, hey, we're not going to be fucking late for meetings and all that shit. But, I mean, Bar seems like a kid that, you know, loves being at the rink, loves being, you know, playing in the NHL. Like, you hate. You hate that he's getting punished like that. But at the end of the day, if you're late, you're going to miss a game.

[Whit]

I think that if. If this happened without the other 31 teams where, you know, one of your top two, three players slept in, I don't think this is the. The response that happens around the league. Like, you know what I mean? I think more that more often than not, it would be, what business saying, maybe, hey, you owe a team dinner. This happens again, you ain't fucking playing. But you better, you better play your balls off tonight. And, and WA went the other direction. So yeah, I don't, I don't think this would have been the case on a lot of teams with their best player. I don't. So it is a little bit of an old school mentality by Patrick Waugh, but it's kind of one of those things like I think if, if, if I, if I, I show these guys, if I'll do it to him. Nobody is safe from getting scratched by being.

[Keith]

I kind of hope they get shelled.

[Biz]

The only, okay, so the only other thought process behind it is okay, we're playing against Carolina, I believe Carolina's at home, so one of the best home teams in the league.

[Whit]

So we're losing anyways.

[Biz]

Not we're losing anyway. It's more of like, oh, maybe they'll let their, their guard down with this information and it'll make everybody on our team amplify their play knowing we're missing our best guy and maybe they can, can sneak one out. And if you do and you set the example and you beat Carolina, that's such a, that's such a momentum swing for your team. But once again I would not have handled it like that. I would have, I would have made light of it and said you better be my, our best player.

[Whit]

And it imagine that they win and.

[Keith]

Then he's going to 10 game heater.

[Whit]

Hey, I can't change the winning lineup. Sorry Barsy.

[Biz]

And right now, I mean they are technically last in their division right now, but they're, I mean everybody's so tight. They went and they have one, one game in hand on, on Washington. So they win if they win back to back games, all of a sudden they're in the top four of the division. So that division's very tight right now so I mean we can move on. But a little peepee whack for Matty Barzell.

[Whit]

Yeah. And, and, and Brad Marchand guys did something pretty, pretty cool in, in a horrible situation. He's taking a leave of absence from the Panthers to coach the Halifax Max U18 game. It's a game celebrating the life of Salah Panachi McCallum, daughter of March and Mill Company Hunters hockey head coach JP McCallum and and Mara Panache. JP's a trainer and very, very close friend of Marchie and there's a GoFund setup as well. But good for, good for Marshawn. I mean like to, to help out a friend going through the the worst thing that any parent could ever go through. It's just says a lot about him and a lot about the Panthers too for understanding where he's coming from, wanting to be up there for his friend going through just an absolutely horrible, horrible thing. So thinking of that family and good for Brad Marchand to do that. Stepping up helping a buddy Biz the Leafs, they got thumped by Columbus on Wednesday night. So we're going to bring in a guy right now who covers the Leafs and also fought biz a few times. This is Jay Rose Hill.

[Biz]

Hey, put my contact in. I don't even wear contacts. I don't know if you guys have seen that photo. I'm going to pull it up right now and show you. But yeah, not not ideal. Leafs are not playing great hockey. The the Blue Jays being on and then also beating the Dodgers in in handling fashion was best case scenario for the Toronto Maple Leaf. Nobody gives a flying fuck about the Leafs right now. They probably had less viewership than an ECHL game last night given the circumstances. But yeah, I we talk about it with Rosie. They're still finding their identity. You know that. Yeah. It's going to take time to figure out and plug some holes in and I'm going to find you that picture.

[Keith]

You said it, Biz. They start off this way every year. You're not worried. You're not worried till Christmas.

[Biz]

Not worried. The other thing too is they have a home and home against who?

[Keith]

Is it Pittsburgh Jersey, right?

[Biz]

No, I believe they're. They got a home and they. This is going to be their third home and home this year. They did Detroit, then they did Buffalo and then now they're doing the Penguins. So maybe that's fucking them up.

[Jay Rose Hill]

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[Whit]

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[RA]

Are the Pittsburgh Penguins a playoff team?

[Whit]

No, but I'm really, really starting to, starting to kind of change my mind a little bit. I'm not, I'm not saying yes yet, but if, if we come Christmas time and they still look like this, I might have to switch my. I mean, Malkin's a machine. Brazo can't stop scoring and Crosby's an all time late, all time legend.

[RA]

So we'll see Amazon Prime Monday night. Be there.

[Biz]

I'm going to be there on Monday. I can't wait, man. I. I'm going to bring Oldie in actually. So we talk about. Oh, the leaves.

[RA]

Oh, they need to. Need some morale.

[Biz]

I'm going to send him to the head and knocko line before they go out onto the ice. Right before warmup or before the game. I don't know when they're going to allow it, but he's going to be in that tunnel.

[Keith]

They're not going to allow anything. You're not on the team.

[Biz]

What are you talking about?

[Keith]

Can't just send your friends into the Harry knuckles line.

[Biz]

They wanted me reading the lineup card of the boys and I said let's not pull out that just yet. I said let's send Oldie in and he'll, he'll sprinkle some morale in that hallway before the boys go for either warm up before the game, you know. Hey, Willie, let's get those legs moving tonight. Hey, awesome.

[Keith]

Busy.

[Biz]

Hey, get that, you know, get that type A meat and potatoes, you know, maybe bury a couple. And I'm going to send Olean and I think that Amazon might even air him in the tunnel live for like 30 seconds. Oh yeah, I think he's gonna have Willie tank top on.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Whit]

Okay.

[Biz]

So that's gonna be a blast. And this is the picture that I'm referring to it when, when Rosie. Me and Rosie fought. Probably my best NHL fight. And I have so much respect for Rosie as a player. And that was a game where his team was down three nothing. So we were at home against the Philadelphia Flyers. Were up three nothing and off the face off. Rosie asked me to go. I said, nope, I'm not giving him momentum away. And Tip always made sure to come down and that's it. B. You know how you talk. How do you talk? Yance?

[Keith]

You think you want to go out there and fight tonight, you better wait till we're down to go. Hey, Biz.

[Biz]

Yeah, yeah, Tip. I won't be going out there starting anything when we got all the way.

[Keith]

You better not. All right, you better not. You better set up some rookie parties though.

[Biz]

Oh yeah, you better be doing that. Make sure you're out there busting the ox cord out, busy and warming up. And then don't touch the puck. Just don't touch. If the puck comes near you, just.

[Keith]

Get the touch the ox, not the puck.

[Biz]

Make sure that gape's open for the boys. But anyway, so we're up three nothing. Rosie wants to fight me to get the boys sparked up on their bench. And I said, hey, can't do it. Coach said no. And he goes, I know, but he goes, I got to come over and ask you. But just know if you don't, I'm going to be running at some of your guys. Well, sure enough, the next shift he takes a big run at Donor. Oh, I, I, I, I want to say there's only one other time someone took a run at Donor and it was James Wisniewski elbowed him.

[Whit]

And I was in that game.

[Keith]

Yeah, and I got my head punched in because of it.

[Biz]

Yeah, even Yan's went over and then I fought, I fought the next shift. What's that?

[Keith]

What do you mean even Yan's?

[Biz]

I'm saying, like you're not, you weren't known as a fighter. You went right over for Donor. I respect the out of you for a guy. That's, that's why you're the, the Hulkster, Slash, what do we call that? Frankenstein?

[Whit]

Frankenhulk.

[Biz]

And so I look at Tip and he goes, all right, go on. And then fucking, we fought right off the draw. And then that, that was one of, the, one of the plays that ended up happening in the middle of that fight. I would say my funnest fight as a coyote, because I was doing it not only for the right reasons, but we had a sold out Barn that night and the fans were loving it just as much. So he almost took my eye out. But without further ado, Jay Roso. Enjoy.

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[Jay Rose Hill]

Foreign.

[Whit]

We welcome on now a great guy, tough as nails. Former NHL player straight out of old Alberta. Yeah, seventh round pick of the Tampa Bay Lightning 23 years ago. Jay Rose Hill what's going on buddy boys?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Thanks for having me. You guys are looking sharp. I didn't get the memo. I feel out of place.

[Whit]

I know we probably should have told you we got the pod right after this that you're going to be on. I can't believe you haven't been on yet. A shame on us. Long time overdue here. But what's going on, buddy? Like how are you doing these days? I know a lot of Leafs coverage. Kind of explain to everyone listening dressed as Bradley Cooper.

[Keith]

This guy's a stallion.

[Biz]

Yeah, he does.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Me, yeah. I kill my air with a piece of salami in the morning. Away we go. But I'm doing good.

[Whit]

Yeah.

[Jay Rose Hill]

You mentioned doing some media stuff for on the Leafs, I guess and following your guys lead the trailblazers here. But that with some coaching of some young kids firefighter as well now and things are good, man. Things are good.

[Biz]

You're a full time fireman?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, I am. I've. I'm off right now. I myself up in the summer behind a boat and tore my pectoral tendon off the bone. So I'm, I'm healing up right now. But I've been one for just about seven years now actually and it's, it's pretty awesome gig boys. I gotta, I gotta admit I was thinking about doing it after. I think we did like a team building trip when I was in Toronto and, and went up to a fire hall, sticked around with all their equipment. They're in a fuselage on fire and cutting cars up using their trucks. But it was afterwards we're having lunch with these, with these guys and just right away our team and their guys and we're all bullshitting and chirping and, and just having a laugh and I'm just like, you guys are at work right now. Is it like seriously? So I started that, got the wheels going I guess and then you know, Calgary opened up after being closed for, for a while as far recruits and I threw my name into the hat and it was perfect timing. As soon as I retired I jumped on board and it's, it's been awesome.

[Biz]

Your home base right now is in Calgary then?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Just north of Calgary. My town's Olds, Alberta as Whit mentioned. And I just commute into Calgary. It's less than an hour so it's, it's pretty slick.

[Biz]

So you're living back home where you grew up. Wow.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah.

[Biz]

What's it, what's it like living and growing up in a town of, of I think it was said, 9,200 people.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah. Is that what it is? It's good man. Like the people all my Buddies that I grew up with are still here. Everyone left for one reason or another, but everybody came back and they're all, we're all raising kids. We're at the hockey rink. We're, you know, you're walking down the street and Buddy's garage is open. You go in and have a beer. Like, I'm hosting Halloween tomorrow. We'll have the Jays game on a projector on the driveway. And the kids just, the kids just leave. And I don't know what they're doing. And they're gone all day. And we have a group chat. It's like whoever's house my kid is at, like, make sure he's not dead or feed him some macaroni or some. But they're in the trees making a fort all day. Like, it's. It's not sitting on the iPad all day. And that's kind of what I love about.

[Biz]

That's living, baby, right there. That's old school.

[Keith]

Is being a fireman in Canada the same as, like Boston, where you do like 124 on. Because an hour travel, if you're doing that every day, it would get old.

[RA]

Yeah.

[Jay Rose Hill]

So it's not anymore. Like, Kovid kind of pushed us into the 24 hour shift switch. I love commuting. You know, you're doing it half as much, but you go there, you stay there for 24 hours and then you got your days off. And that's kind of when I started to think, you know, I kind of want something to do on the side. I got some time. I don't want to, like, start a business and be swamped and I can't, you know, coach my kids and that type of thing. So I didn't know what that was going to be. And, you know, three years ago, you know, this opportunity to do a hockey podcast, and I can do it at my house and it's going to work with my schedule kind of came up, you know, across my lap. Thanks to Luke Shen, who's. Who's a buddy of mine. Frank Saravali was looking for a guy to do this Leafs show and my name came up. So I, I threw my name into the hat and said, yeah, sure, I'm interested in that. And all this stuff starts showing up in my house, gear and equipment. And two weeks later, I'm live and I have no idea what I'm doing. I wish they'd scrub those old ones from the Internet, but I think we got our feet under us now.

[Keith]

A firefighter, like the hall where you guys stay that's got to be the closest thing to a hockey locker room, because, like, everyone. You always do stuff with the firemen, police when you're in towns. But going to a firehouse is like. It's a brotherhood. Like, it is a hockey locker room, right?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, 100%. And that's kind of what turned me on to it when I first stepped foot into one. I'm like, this is. This is a locker room. Like, we don't even know these guys. And we're laughing and chirping and around and. And so as soon as I got into it, you know, you get through the training and stuff, which was okay, but once you're in the hall, it's like, yes, you get to know the crew, and you fit in with certain guys, and you figure out how it works. And there's a hierarchy, like, in. In the locker room, too. You know, you got, you know, your captains and officers, and you go down to the rookies and the drivers and all that. And. And I understand that. So it's not, like, an adjustment to me. I get how that works and why it's important. But you're in the hall, and, like, you know, you're. They're playing pranks on each other and dicking around, and then you work out together, and then you're cooking up this huge meal, and then. Then the tones go off, and off you go, and you have no idea what to expect. It's an emergency. And I like being in the. And in the thick of it like that. If. If there's something going on, there's, like, caution tape. I always want, like, what happened? What's going on? And you're never allowed in. Now you're the guy first in trying to figure out what the hell you're supposed to do with it. So it's just the best of both worlds. I. I really enjoy it.

[Biz]

Bob, I got one more about the firefighting just before we kind of get into the hockey stuff. Like, I have a few buddies who are firefighters, and I. I think maybe a little bit before COVID but covet is kind of where it really started kicking in, where they kind of started dealing more with the fentanyl stuff and, like, having to, like, shoot people up and. And report to those types of calls rather than actually fighting fires. Has that kind of wore on you mentally? Because, like, obviously people who have been dealing with that have had to, in some cases, take breaks, and it just has become a little bit overwhelming as far as, like, the amount of calls that they're getting. They're going to, that aren't even firing fires.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, like we do medical calls. That's the bulk of our, of our calls. And you know, just the way you have to have fire stations set up. I mean they, an insurance company won't ensure this new development if there's not a fire hall within X amount of minutes away. So you've got them all strategically stationed around, around your district. So when those tones go off, we're trained in certain medical aspects where we can get there first before an ambulance a lot of the time. So we're first on scene a lot. And yeah, medical calls take up a lot of it. Like everyone asks how often do you find a fire? It's like, well, like there's not a schedule for burning down. Right? Like there's guys that'll do two in one day or multiple ones in a tour and then some guy won't do any fire related stuff for a month. And it just depends where you are. Different districts are different, but medical calls are part of it for sure. I was downtown Calgary and there's fentanyl like crazy. And like you're going to it constantly to the point where we had to get new trucks to like dedicate trucks to doing these, these calls because you're running the wheels off your big rigs and it's the same, you know, all over North America. It's definitely a problem. And it's, it's kind of funny because like the, you know, the people that are in power and make the laws and stuff, like they're, they're stepping over these, you know, these addicts and these homeless people to go into like, and it's like they don't know what to do. Like it's a problem. But yeah, it's not really my department. We show up and do what we can and it doesn't bother me. Some guys get messed up like.

[Biz]

Well, it's just hard like seeing like seeing that like you're seeing the worst, worst of it. Right? And, and also they, they're the ones sometimes injecting these guys with. Is it called Narcan?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We Narcan guys all the time.

[Whit]

I got a buddy who narcanned a guy, brought him back to life. Seven hours later, call again, same guy. Narcanum again.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, for sure. They'll get. And sometimes they get up with like they still got the juice in them and they, they come to, they come too really fast. So you got to be ready. Like they might want to scrap you and stuff, but then they Might just.

[Keith]

Like Rosie's on the job on you.

[Jay Rose Hill]

And swear at you or you're.

[Biz]

You're ruin their high.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Oh, yeah, they're. They're messes. I've heard of a guy getting our canned three times and by the same crew in one day. It's. It's gross. And yeah, whatever it is what it is. I don't know what you. I don't know what the answer is, but it's. It's a gross thing out there, no question.

[Whit]

So back to the hockey. Real interesting story for you. One year in college and got a couple messages from. From Grinelli, who talked to people, you know, like the most coachable guy, everyone said, like most improved guy, like six years in a row in different leagues. But take us like into your beginning, like your early days in hockey. Maybe your dad got you in or you just love the game. Big Flames fan or Oilers fan, I don't know. But like, what was your intro into hockey? Like, how old were you do when you remember really loving it?

[Jay Rose Hill]

But yeah, like, I just like anyone else, my older brother started in hockey, so I started by default. And you know, I really started to like it when you started playing hit hockey. Like, I was, I was fine. I wasn't a standout or anything like that. I think, I think my skating got better as I progressed and ended up being my strength. But once you started playing hit hockey, it was like, that's all you wanted to do. Like, you had those Douglas shoulder pads, those plastic things that sounded like a car crash when you'd hit guys. Yeah, I didn't give a. About scoring goals. I was just like, who can have that biggest? All the boys are just, you know, with their, their voices are cracking at 12 and 13 years old and we're just trying to annihilate each other. And I like that side of it. And you know, once I started hitting, you know, 14, 15 is when I started to kind of stand out in the physical side of things and kind of could not dominate, but like, it was like, Jesus, look out for that guy kind of thing. And, and yeah, like you said, I like, I. Nobody in town was like, that kid's gonna play in the National League. It wasn't that, that story. But in my mind that's how it was gonna go. Like, I was hell bent after kind of puberty, I guess, to just to make it no matter what. I. And I, I told a teacher that one time, she laughed in my face. So I, I just, I just kept it to myself and was like, quietly like, obsessed with making it there. So, yeah, I mean, every year I'd get the most improved. And I always thought it was such a dust trophy to get like, like.

[Whit]

Wasn'T that, how can I get this every year? I was that bad.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, I know that's. That's kind of how you felt at the time, but after a while, you look back and there's like six of them on the shelf in a row. And in like five or six years of time, you went from Tier 2 junior to playing in the NHL. You know, you must have been doing something right. So it was an unconventional path. I got drafted as a defenseman, started playing defense full time in Midget AAA at 16. So then played Tier 2 junior, one year of college, two years pro, and then switched to forward. And that's when the scrapping started happening and stuff. But, yeah, when people look at my db, they're like, what the hell was this guy doing? It's kind of all over the map, but it's just, it's just the way it was.

[Biz]

So outside of the physicality at a young age, were you, like, were you okay scrapping? Did you do it a lot? Like, were you one were a guy, like, in old Alberta, where maybe there was another high school or school or wherever, where you'd end up scrapping guys in the yard? Like, what was your temperament? Like?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, like, I remember being nervous in junior. It felt like you're kind of playing against men all of a sudden. Like back then in the Alberta Junior Hockey League, it was pretty tough. Our team was tough. My brother was tough. We had trailer sets of brothers. We had so many guys that were tough. And, and then you go up north, they had a lot of tough teams. So I, I, you know, if I fought 10 or 12 times, it. It didn't even seem like a lot. I was certainly not considered a fighter. I'd like to hit and be physical, and if that led to a scrap, fine, but it certainly wasn't my role. It wasn't what I thought I was going to do full time. But, like, we had, we had this coach, Brett Cox, his name was. He ran the old Grizzlies. I decided to stay at home and play there because Seattle had my rights. And I was, like, terrified to go down to Seattle and, and move and leave my high school and go from a small town down to the States. I was like, that. I'm. I'm just starting to, like, stand out. I'm a late developer. I thought, so stay here, play with my brother, live at Home, stay in my high school and be comfortable, Play tier two and then. And then, you know, ensure you give yourself more time to get to the NHL. Because like I said, I was kind of constantly getting better going. If I keep this up, maybe I could do something. But if I get thrown into the dub, right now, they want me to be a meathead. I mean, they're calling me saying, can you run up to the garage and see how big your dad's shoes are for me? And I've run out there, right? He's a size 12. It's like you're just wanting to see how big of a piece of meat I'm gonna become. You know, I felt that right away at like 14. So that's kind of why I didn't go the dub. Even though at the end of the day, that would have been probably the more prototypical path for me. But. But like I said, Brett Cox was coaching me, and he just said, I'd rather pull back on the reins than crack the whip, man. Just do your thing out there. And I, as a demon, I'd wheel the net, I could skate decent, and I'd get the red line and I would find. Flip it up into the rafters and. And still chase down my own dump as a demon and just crush demon. And like every. Like, I got to college and did that, and they're like, what the is this guy doing? Like, But I had full reign in Junior Jay.

[Biz]

He was the one man band.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Oh, God, every instrument. The one time I thought I finally overdid it, like, they took the red line out that year. So I was getting used to that as a deman, and some guy roasted me. I think it was in overtime, but I was chasing him down. And we had an old Sherwood whatever stick it was at the time, and I just lapped like Bobby Orr and tomahawk this stick over the kid's back and crippled him. And he scored in overtime. Blows the net off the moorings, and he didn't move. He didn't get up to celebrate or anything. And I'm like. I'm like, I'm finally just gonna hear about it, right? Like, this is too far. I go into the locker room and Cox comes in and he's got the game puck. We lost the game. I don't even know why I had to go. Game puck goes to Rosie. I hate that kid. And he's just jacked that I played with that much intensity. So it was. It was free reign. And I was really able to kind of, you know, Be that guy. And all my friends from high school are like, we're not coming to the game unless you're going to be a Gong show tonight, Rosie. And I'm like, okay, I bet you better put on a show. So it kind of started there and.

[Biz]

You know, we were getting positive reinforcement early from it. So it kind of just like builds your ego up doing it now. So we're gonna get to some of these wild off the ice stories. What were you like in high school growing up as far as, like, your crazy antics off the ice? Were you a pretty good kid? Was hockey kind of taking all your. Your craziness where. Where you were getting it out of your system?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, I think so. I mean, you'd have to ask the teachers and stuff. I didn't get in a lot of trouble. I wasn't a bad kid. I was actually really good at getting away with a lot of, you know, we. We'd do dumb and we'd finagle our way out of it. So we never had to deal with like, the actual. The actual.

[Biz]

Well, easy when you don't. You only have one sheriff or officer in town.

[Jay Rose Hill]

That too. Like, one time there was a message on my machine from constable so and so to come down to the station. I'm like, what the fuck? So I'm deleting the hell out of this before my parents can see I go down and I don't know, we were shooting signs with shotguns or something. And then my buddy went to Value Drug Mart to get the film developed of the disposable he was taking pictures of. And we got in there, but he's like, pay for the signs. I don't. I had a scholarship at the time. And he's like, pay for these signs. And. And we're all good. And I'm like, thank you. Stuff like that, you just kind of. Small town didn't hurt, right?

[Biz]

You're not shooting shotguns. That's normal.

[Whit]

Whatever.

[Biz]

All normal stuff north of the border, right?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Of course.

[Biz]

How. How did a town so small get an AGHL team? Or is it still there?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, yeah, they're still there. They've had it. They won the Centennial cup in the early 90s. It's, you know, they have their ups and downs. They just got bought by a new outfit. But, you know, small towns can handle an AJ team. And the hard part is the corporate sponsorship. Big enough companies to sponsor it and really float the dollars. But they've been there for a long time. And yeah, they're pretty, pretty good outfit.

[Keith]

Going to college, especially playing in a small town and especially where you were from. Then you go to Minnesota Duluth, which is probably a small town too. But you got guys like Tim Stapleton there, guys from big cities, like, different. A chicklet's a legend. Tim Stapleton. Like, what. What were guys like that? Like, it was probably the first time you seen kids from big city and their personalities.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, it was different. And, you know, I was 19 years old, so I was homesick, actually, and took some getting used to. Scott Sandlin was there. He still is. He was a demon and kind of saw himself in me and. And really helped me out and helped with just the positional part of it and the skating and opening up and how to. How to run, you know, playing D. And I think he helped me out a lot, even though I was just there for a year. But it was an adjustment period. There was. There was a reason I didn't go down to Seattle at a young age. I look at kids now, like, going to Notre Dame at 14 and leaving home. I just can't believe it. Like, how are you mature enough to do that, brave enough to do that? How do your parents let you just. You just had them and it's like, see you later. You'll never live at home again. Like, I can't. I can't quite believe that. I guess it's just a small town in me who was like that. If I can stay home and play, I'm gonna do it that way. And so, yeah, college was an adjustment, but I was ready to do it. Obviously, you can't stay on Mama's tit forever. So it was time to go. And my brother was actually right across the bridge at Wisconsin Superior. So he was around that year to kind of have some film familiarity, which was kind of cool.

[Biz]

I was gonna ask you this story. I actually got a DM from one of your buddies who would teed me up with a bunch of wild ones. Now, you're only there one year at university. Was that as a. As a result of, I guess you were dating some girl and then some, like, altercation happened because of it? Is. Is that a true story? Can you bring us through it?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, I forgot about that. No, it was this tennis player I took on a date while we were there. We went to this famous bar, Grandma's Bar, in. In Duluth. Right. Everyone was there. But I'm only 19. I can't really get in. So I snuck in and I'm on this date with this. With this pretty tennis player and. And just, you know, figuring things out, and this big bohemian, like, tramples her, getting to the bar and stomps on her foot and, like, visibly hurt her. And I was like, hey, like, you just trampled this girl. And he's like, and. And I'm like, well, I thought you'd probably want to apologize like a human being, you know? And then the guy puts his drink down. He goes, do you know who I am? And I'm like, oh, here we go. I'm like, okay, just forget it. Forget it. So then she's like, it's okay, it's okay. So I'm just staring at her, and he's, like, trying to tell me how he's got pro scouts looking at him for football or some. And I'm like, hey, like, take your drink and move on. And then I'm just looking at her, but in my peripheral, he's standing there with his chest puffed out. And then he just clocks me. And I'm standing on, like, a high top bar stool and I'm falling off the stool, and I realize what happened. I plant my right leg and I hammer back and I just square this prick. And he goes down. And I'm just like, are you kidding me? I'm on a date with this girl I've been staring at in the hallway all week. And I just unload, like, lefts and rights. Like, my watch goes flying, my sandals go flying. Our. Our captain had to grab me by the T shirt and rip it off. So I'm just standing there in, like, these billabong shorts, and this guy went from, like, holding me off to, like, just Bambi arms. Like, he. I just. I like, I totally. So then. Then, like, my captain's like, rosie, get out of here. So I just sprint right by, like, the bouncers and everything that are taking IDs, and I'm just. I am just Forrest Gumping it down the middle of the street and everybody's chasing me. And, yeah, I ended up, you know, the path the ambulance came around and I ended up in the back of a squad car and all this shit happens and.

[Whit]

But he hit you first?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Well, that's what I was. That's all my boys were saying. But then their crew was saying that I was stomping them and all this. Right? But this guy's got a reputation around town. He's a complete idiot. But the cop was like, yeah, the ambulance went around back. They had the smelling salts. Your buddy awake, and he's not in good shape, so I don't know what's gonna happen here. But, you know, I. And then it was like a month or two later, I signed with Tampa, and I was like, sayonara, see you guys.

[Biz]

Yeah, see you never.

[Jay Rose Hill]

It turned into, like, a. Can't figure out what happened. I don't know. We both just got, like, nothing, basically. Like, you know, what are we supposed to prove? I think the guy came after me for a hospital bill later, but it. It just kind of went away. Someone took care of it and, yeah, that was kind of, you know, don't dick. My parents were like, you're down in the States now trying not to dick around. It's not like, outside the Blue Yak and Olds where this stuff just goes away. But, yeah, I kind of got away with one later, but I don't know what I could have done differently there.

[Keith]

Did he ever make it to the NFL?

[Jay Rose Hill]

No, he didn't. He was, like, 25 years old. He played College Deer Div 3, like, four years earlier. He was just. It wasn't the last time he got beat up at. At a party because he just kept showing up and running his mouth. He just couldn't handle the booze, I think. But he was an idiot, and he. He had it coming, I promise.

[Biz]

Outside of getting off your mom's tit, as you said, like, what were the takeaways from just that one year? Obviously dodging the feds. Getting off your mother's tit, what was like, the takeaway from that one year of college? Because you ended up signing, but. But you probably learned a lot moving away from home for at least one year.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, it was. I mean, I had trouble balancing school and hockey. Like, I didn't like it. I had a lot of stress about school and this big workload and stuff would come on, and it just kind of overwhelmed. And the. The prospect of, like, I could just do hockey, and I'd never done that before because I went right from, like, grade 12 to college, and I'm like, I could not do schoolwork anymore and just focus on hockey. Like, that was music to my ears. So Tampa was trying to get me out, and I was like, you know, I feel like I came here to develop, and I am doing that. So, like, there's no real reason. And then they, you know, they. They were bumping up my signing bonus a little bit, and I just. Then I got in that scrap and kept thinking about planning for the courses in my school, and I was like this. I signed and. And took off, and I said, school will be there later if I need to go and do school, but these opportunities aren't going to be here forever. I'm signing this contract and let's go.

[Whit]

What was kind of the first pro camp like that next year? I know you. You had a couple games in the coast, but mainly in the ahl. You're in beautiful Springfield, correct?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Oh, fuck.

[Biz]

I play. I must have played against you there in springy.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, we crossed paths a little bit. I wasn't scrapping a lot the first two years. Again, demand. I was too. I remember the scouts telling me, like, you're kind of playing vanilla. Like, where's that dog?

[Keith]

You know?

[Jay Rose Hill]

And I was like, like, in my mind, like, I think one of my first games was against like Alexander McGilney was playing and stuff. And I was like all respectful and know your place and earn your stripes and put in your tie. And I was kind of tiptoeing and. And I don't think that was the strategy. Like, I should have gone in there guns ablazing, but I wasn't scrapping a whole lot and kind of getting my bearings. So it was, it was a learning process. Our team wasn't that awesome or anything, but, like, it was funny. My first year, probably I got called up to play, but they had Habibullin, had like some immigration issues, so they had to bring up our goalie instead. And I was told I was getting called up. I packed my and everything and it just. The final call didn't come. But that goalie came back from that weekend in Montreal and said all of his stuff, said my name on it like, j rolls on the room service and the key card and all that. So I'm like, I was supposed to get called up. I'm only 20, first year should be good, but. And then at the end of the season, they called me up as a black ace practicing with everybody. And, you know, they were doing poorly against Ottawa in the first round. And the guy came up to me and said, rosie, if they make a D change, you're going in. You're the. You're the guy. And I'm like, holy. Because Jay Feaster came and watched me one weekend. It was just one of those weekends. I was just controlling the play and I was physical and confident and he. That's like the only weekend he saw. So he was really high on me and. And that was. That was my first year pro as a 20 year old. So I'm like, I'm right there. I made the right decision. This is, this is good. And then the next year, Dirk Graham got fired. Who Was my coach and they brought in Steve Sterling and he did not care for me, man. Like, just wrote me off, tore me to shit. This one game, we're in Portland and he's in the D room and he's going around the room telling you how much you could touch the puck. And we had Andy Delmore on the team who came down. He was obviously really good and he's like, deli. You can touch the puck, make plays. Don't get crazy with it. Remember defense, but make plays and do your thing out there. Then he'd go to like, Matt Smaby and be like, smabes, make the plays, Move the puck. If you don't see it right away, then. Then just keep it. Keep it to the wall or get it deep, you know? Then he gets like, me and one other guy. Rosie, I don't want the puck on your stick tonight. Like, if it comes to your stick, put it in the stands or in the bench or ice.

[Biz]

It's just pick it up.

[Jay Rose Hill]

I don't want you touching the puck. This is 20 minutes before puck drop. I'm 21 years old and I'm. I'm just destroyed, confident, like, I can't make an eighth class in practice. And looking back, I'm like, are you kidding me? Your job is to make this kid better and to get him to the NHL and to develop him. And that's your advice? Like. Like, what if I. What did I do to get written off that bad? But he wanted me gone, man. And it was after. It was at the beginning of that, the third year after playing for him for one year, he sent me to the coast and I was like, I'm going backwards here, right? And he said, he made sure. He's like, pack all your. Like, don't leave anything in Norfolk here because the team moved to Norfolk. He's like, you're not coming back, so don't leave anything here. I'm like, I got the message, Sterl. So I. I go down to the co or I. I drive from Norfolk down to Tampa where the Mississippi Sea Wolves are going to pick me up on the bus. And they're gonna go down and play the Florida Everblades. So they pick me up in Tampa. I pull into Tampa's parking lot at the same Pete times form, and I look up and it's the door. I walked in like a year and a half ago where I'm the black ace and I'd gotten called up and I was like, so close, and I'm looking at the exact same Building going. I am a man million miles away right now, right. So kind of a low point. But lo and behold, I went and played those two games down there. And then we came back to Tampa. I was going to jump in my truck and follow the bus to Mississippi, and I'm just evaluating life and leaving everything. And the coach comes back and he's like, rosie, they called you back up. And I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, they call you back up. I'm like, any reason? He's like, I don't know. But they played Binghamton last night and they got the floor wiped with them. There's a gong show, fights galore. They got ran right out of the fucking building. I was like, okay. So I get back to Norfolk and Sterl's is like, I heard you can play some forward.

[Biz]

And I'm like, no shit?

[RA]

Yeah.

[Jay Rose Hill]

I was like, I hadn't played forward since I was 50. And I'm like, yeah, know the position like the back of my hand. And I'm like, just keep me in this league.

[Whit]

Can I touch the puck, though, please?

[Jay Rose Hill]

I know. Do I still have to put it in the stands? If.

[Biz]

All right, here's a face off play.

[Whit]

Yeah.

[Jay Rose Hill]

So, I mean, that was like a bit of a scare going down. Came back out of second chance playing forward, and he goes, we need someone to. For check. We need someone to be physical and if you want to be in this league. Like, they, they had drafted so many defensemen to Tampa, myself included, but so many guys ahead of me on the depth chart that there was like eight, nine defensemen in Norfolk, and I'm like number 10. So it's hence why I'm getting sent down and I don't have a chance in hell. So it put me on forward. All of a sudden this. This whole new avenue opens up. So I did just that. I mean, I could skate pretty good at the time, and that's kind of my string. Not so much with the puck, but I was just for checking like crazy, like, just like, there's no puck out there. Guys would ask me like, Rosino, there's a puck out there, right? But I would just run around and in. At that time in that league, it. It does not take long for a guy to grab you. And, you know, I remember fighting Dale Purington and, and Frankie Laard and being like, that wasn't so bad. Like, I handled myself fine. And I thought these guys were mutants that I wouldn't even look at. So I'm like, okay, run around every tough Guy's coming at me and I'm handling myself fine. And all of a sudden it's just off to the races like you're a heavyweight and I'm like, the next year I led the league in fights and it just happened out of the blue. But I was, there was no way I was going backwards or gonna say, no, I don't accept this opportunity, or no, I'm gonna go back to D, or no, I'm going to play in the Coast. It was like that we're going forward, forward only. And however I got to do it.

[Keith]

I'm gonna do it.

[Biz]

I feel like I'm talking to myself, boys. This sounds. I know, I know it's crazy because I went to Pittsburgh as an 18 year old, almost made the team at a camp, like was the last cut, was successful, and then like, you know, next thing you know, when you're there. I spent basically two full years in the Coast. Right, so what was that like? Because you said that you were, I don't, did you say homesick when you first got to school? Like a change of pace? What was it like once you signed pro, moving around so much? Like, were you just a little bit fucked up or maybe throughout the course of your first few years, did you ever consider maybe like this, I'm gonna play through my entry level and then I'm gonna go back home and work?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Ah, no, no, that once I started playing pro, it was blinders on, like head down, ass up, it didn't matter. And looking back, I mean, I had some, some lows and some adversity, but I just said okay, like, just like keep, keep plowing through like all there's, there's a, there's the other side of this, whatever that is, and just kind of made it happen, you know, Got to know some good guys and playing pro and the camaraderie and looking back, like we were drinking too much back then, like to try to be pro athletes, but we were having fun and making the most of it and the road trips and all the rest of it, it was, it was fun. I, I again, I had some anxiety about it. I lost confidence, had battles with coaches and it wasn't all roses, but I never thought of, of going back. It was always just like next year, next contract, where's the next step? Moving forward, moving forward. And that all I cared about and didn't matter how it had to happen. I was kind of naive to be honest with you. Just head down, ass up, just plow through to the next one.

[Biz]

Is it Amazing how much respect and, and turnaround the organization has where all of a sudden they switch you roles and you're fighting and I guess providing them something. Like, did you, did you feel the love instantly when you started scrapping so much?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Not so much from the organization, but from the teammates. Like, like the same guys that I was at Traverse City with and those and everything, you know, they know me from back then. And then, you know, I'm fighting Heavies. Like, I remember this one night, I got in three fights in one game and Mike Egner, my buddy, came to me and he's like, he's just staring at me like, who are you? And I'm just like, I don't know, man. Like, it's just a, a whirlwind of, of scraps and running and just making noise. And I knew Tampa had no plans for me, so I was like, I'm going to make so much noise that not everyone's going to be able to ignore me. Like, I'm going to make a name for myself. Someone's going to come calling. And after that second year of playing forward, I get Delta Toronto and Brian Burke says, come over here, my son. And, and I got noticed, so it worked out.

[Biz]

Mike Egnor, I believe he played for the Calgary Hitman in the Western League. Yeah, Yeah. I almost fought him at World Junior Camp. They said no fighting. Yeah, good solid defenseman in the Western League. Like he played a little bit pro. He didn't. I thought he would have lasted longer.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, he, he's a good shit. I, I think, you know, the game kind of wore him down and, and mentally ran into again some coaches that did not help Tampa, did not develop the guys the way that they could have, would have, should have back then. He should have had a better opportunity. But I think he played out his entry level contract, maybe a couple more and went over to Europe for a little bit. But he, he's, he was a stad in junior, man. And, and it was him and Dion Phaneuf like, like Calgary Red Deer battling. I think they fought in the prospects game. Like he was a maniac. He was like the template of what you wanted to be.

[Biz]

I fought him in the prospects game, but, but I know what you're saying. Yeah, they were. Yeah. I ended up going after Double Dion because he lit up. Mark Antoine Pouliac.

[Keith]

It's so crazy to me, like how good of company men guys like you guys are where your coach is telling you you're not allowed to touch the puck and then he tells you you're not even allowed on the bus. You got to follow the bus in your car, and you're still willing to go out and fight three times. But like you said, it's for your teammates. And it's just so, like. It's unbelievable how you guys can operate like that.

[Whit]

I think what's impressive is that you said, you know what? I don't see much of a future in Tampa, but I'm going to cause such a mess every game that someone's going to notice.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah.

[Whit]

And it's funny you mentioned Berkey. I kind of forgot he was in Toronto when they traded for you. That is the exact guy that would catch an AHL game, be like, who the hell is this?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, a hundred percent. It was. I met my first camp. Like, I got to Toronto, it was very late in the season when I got dealt there at the American League deadline or whatever. I finished up the year there. They extended me for two years. So I was kind of like, okay, I'm gonna be in Toronto. And that camp, you know, I. We were at. We were in the gym, and I was watching some fitness testing, and I just felt like this presence behind me. And I look back and it's Berkey, and he's got this fat dip in and his ties undone. He's looking straightforward, not even at me. And. And he's just watching this guy on the bike, and he's like, this is your kind of team, Rosie. You're kind of team. And I'm like, okay, all right. Like, Matt, I got it. And then I think we played like six or seven exhibition games. I played in. I think I played in five of them in a week. And I had gotten. I gotten five fights in seven days through preseason and made the opening night roster. And, you know, I was playing my first game against Montreal in Toronto, and just away we went like that. The ups and downs are crazy how quick it happen. Peaks and valleys. I kind of got that with hockey. Like, things can change fast. Like, going from being with Tampa, thinking you're going to play your first NHL game in a playoff game, to being in the coast, Mississippi, until all of a sudden you're in the show. It's just like, things happen so quick. And I saw all these guys fall by the wayside who couldn't hack it. And like, you know, one bad coach or one bad year, and they're like this. And excuses out the ass and like, this. This is. And I'm getting screwed and all this, and it's like, well, Then off, like, okay, like, rest your laurels on that. That's all you got to say about it. Then that's all you're going to focus on. See you later. You're done. Pro. And I'm gonna forward on and don't really care what Steve Sterling says. And it was honestly just kind of naivety. Like, I was just naive. I didn't really understand, like, how it should work or what. How bad of a spot I might have been in at times, but just kept fighting. Like, I had two broken thumbs. For most of that season, I couldn't put on my socks. I couldn't turn a doorknob.

[Biz]

Were they broken from getting stuck in the jerseys?

[Jay Rose Hill]

No, I think just punching. Like, I must have just gone like this or something because I break both my thumbs all the time. But it just got caught up with punching and jerseys. I tore all my tendons, like, on my fingers. They were sideways, and they were in casts or splints and stuff. It. It was mayhem. I got a couple of pictures of, like, selfies I took back in the day of my face, and it's jersey burn and black eyes and stitches and. And. But I kind of loved it. Like, it was intense. And I felt alive and felt alive proud. And the boys after and feeling like you like any others, like, just calling on a bench and a team like the. The Juices were going, like I'd never felt. And like, you put your head on the pillow and there's lumps all over it, but you're kind of like, that was awesome. Like, I did like it.

[Biz]

Rosie, are. Are you an emotional guy? Like, your. Your first game, when you. When you knew you were going to get. Be in the lineup, like, did you have your parents there? Did you get a little emotional beforehand? Or was it more like the.

[Jay Rose Hill]

The.

[Biz]

The attitude you just been talking about, like, let's go here.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah. Like, oh, it wasn't lost on me. Like, I was obsessed with, like, my goals were just to, like, say I played in the NHL. Like, that's all I wanted. Like, just say, like, one shift is all I kind of needed growing up. And just to say I did it. Like, there. I accomplished the thing. So then I remember after my first shift, I was like, I did it. And then that night, I was like, well, now what do I do? Like, I should have made my goals higher. So I had to, like, reevaluate my goals and stuff. But no, that's. That first game, I. I called my dad, and I'm like, I'm in. I'm in. I'm playing tomorrow against Montreal. And he's like, son of a. And he's like, I gotta get there. And I'm like, just. It's probably better to watch on TV anyways. And I wasn't sure what he was doing, but I woke up in the morning and. And he's like, I'm here. And he took the red eye. So I got this picture of me coming off a warm up, my first game. And I'm just hitting the kids's hands or whatever coming down the tunnel. I look up and he's right at the top of the tunnel and got this pic of me in this Leafs jersey. And he just got into town and I showed him the rink or the locker room after. And he's. He's just like. He was just blown away. It was a really, really cool thing. I was just like, again, I. Like I said I had to reevaluate my goals because that was all I ever wanted.

[Biz]

How were you? Game one?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Not bad. I don't think I got a ton ice. I fought Travis Moan or Z fought Laroque, which is. I'm like, that's, that's fine. Like, you can take Larocque, I'll take Moaner, but I don't know. We cycled it around a couple of times. It was that week I scored my first goal in my third game, Mark Andre Fleury against Sid. They were the defending champions at the time. So I talked my, you know, the first week of being there, which blew my mind. I was like, I can't believe I just buried like. I thought I'd have to play for like two years to score. But yeah, I had, you know, had a lot of things happen that week.

[Whit]

Which was pretty exciting that first year because you were up and down a little bit, right? It says Doug Gilmore was the assistant coach for the marliest.

[Jay Rose Hill]

That must have been a paper money payroll thing.

[Biz]

Planting trees too.

[Jay Rose Hill]

That was like Mike Vernon. Mike Vernon was our goalie coach when I was in Norfolk, when Len Barry and Oren Coolis, they. They owned the Lightning. There was all these random guys on our stat pack. Goalie coach, assistant executive, associate, all these celebrities and stuff. Like little, little paychecks getting sent around because I never saw any those guys.

[Biz]

Yeah, is when. When Wayne was the coach in Arizona. Wasn't Grant Fe the goalie coach, I imagine, show up twice a month on.

[Keith]

No, he was there every day. FY was there every day, but he was. He was going right to the golf course. He used to show up to the rink in his golf cleats.

[Biz]

Okay.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Oh, I love it.

[Keith]

He was there every day. FY was the man biz you get into.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Like, when I was that first year, that camp in. In Toronto, my agent was, like, really close with the assistant general manager or something of the. Of the Coyotes, and he goes, rosie, if it doesn't work out for you, if you get put on waivers, like, I have good information that they are grabbing you if you go on waivers, like, they need a guy like you and 100. They're grabbing the first guy in waivers. So I was like, okay, at least. Like, if I don't make this team, maybe that'll happen. And you got put on waivers at some point in time and they grabbed you, and I was like, oh, well, there goes the Phoenix opportunity. And then your whole career in Phoenix and everything you did and the tweeting and all that could have been you was right there off of that. Like, I would have been popping at your heels there. So I think you owe me a watch or something.

[Biz]

I do. I owe you something, buddy. I owe you something.

[Keith]

Playing in the coast and the AHL and then going to the big leagues that we got guys like Phil Kessel in the locker room, like, it must have been a treat to see him every day.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, it was. It was cool. A lot of good dudes. Like, Wayne Primo was my line mate when I first got there. And I remember one of my W. Griswold. Yeah, he was hilarious.

[Keith]

But I.

[Jay Rose Hill]

It was like a first road trip or something like that. I don't know what the hell I needed, but I think I went to, like, Ponokrovsky or something, and I had a 20 and I'm like, pony, like, do you have change for this? Or whatever? And he took it like, like, and he. And he dropped and he goes, this is change. And I'm like, oh, I'm not in the minors anymore, you know, So I had to, like, adjust being around these guys and everything, but. But it. It was just unreal. Like, riding the. The jet and going to the dinners and the way they wine and dine in Toronto was second to none. I was just blown away by, like, how you feel being on that team. It was pretty cool. And, yeah, it was. But a lot of hard work to get there, and I had wanted to be there, and I felt I. I earned it in a way. And I was. I was just soaking it up.

[Biz]

I was going to ask you, I. I don't think it was in Toronto. The car story, the stolen vehicle now, am I fast forwarding too far ahead here? Like, what, what was that about?

[Jay Rose Hill]

No, that. I was like 22. I haven't really said that publicly. It's probably time I tell it, but I was in the Miners playing for Norfolk. Long story. I'll try to keep it quick, but.

[Biz]

No, no extended version. This is what this is about.

[Jay Rose Hill]

We're okay. We're a terrible team. Norfolk Admirals in the American league. I'm like 22. So we're on like a five game slide, right, and nothing's going good. We had like a good group of dudes. We got along. Wicked leadership. Like, Norm Milley was like this beauty leading the charge. Our captain. And we're at dinner and we all decide that dinners, we're not going back to the hotel room. Like, we're, we're gonna all go out tonight and we're all gonna play guilty tomorrow. And that was the answer to climbing out of this slide that we're in, right? So. So we end up at, at this gentleman's club like a couple of miles out of town on the secondary highway. And we have ourselves at night and everyone hoots and hollers and it's great. And we're trying to get home at 2 in the morning. And notoriously, in Binghamton, there's no cabs or anything and it's, it's December. There's a foot of snow on the ground. We're waiting outside of the bar and one of the guys had played in bingo and knew one of the girls at the bar and she was going to give us a lift home. And we're standing there and there's this, there's this Hyundai warming up and it looked warm. I'm like, I'm gonna go jump in that car and like maybe spin it around back and play a joke on her. And the guys are like, yeah, I don't think you should, Rosie. And I'm just like, I'll just see if it's open anyway. And I just, I go and flick the door handle and then I'm in it and just reverse and then look at the boys and then just pin her out of the parking lot. And I'm checking stuff out and looking at the radio and seeing what she's listening to. And then all of a sudden I'm on like that secondary highway and there's nothing around. I'm like, what the am I doing? Like, what is the plan here? And I just, I just like kind of blacked out and I'm like, what? This is dumb. So I just kind of pulled over. It was like this old Shriners Hall. It was empty, whatever, parking lot. So I'm parking it. And as I'm doing that, I'm getting out in this through the slats in the fence. I see this cop car wheel by and then hit the brakes and wait. And I'm like, how do I explain this, you know? So I took. I'm wearing my suit still from the game or whatever, and we're all out in our suits and take my suit jacket off and I wipe the whole thing down for prints really quick because that was. That was gonna make it so, like, I wasn't involved in this.

[Whit]

Ocean's eleven.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah. And then this cop shit hooks it and pins it and comes back towards me. Me. And I don't wait. I book it into the trees. There's this whole forest behind this building. And I rip into the trees. I jump over this creek and my up to my knee goes into mud and there's snow. And I am just like. I'm like that guy from Twilight. Just through this, through the forest with the trees just flying by me, like as far in, as deep as I can possibly get. And all of a sudden I'm like 250 yards into the trees. And I look back and I just see a flashlight like at the edge of the trees. And this, this cops kind of checking it out. And I'm like, there's no way he is going to leap over that creek like I did and stuff. And so he. He kind of wasn't an issue. And I'm like, okay, well, I gotta get back to the bar or home or something. But I. I just kept going into the trees and I hit train tracks. So then I get on the railroad ties into my dress shoes. I'm just like, pitter patter, pitter patter, pitter patter on the, the. On the. On the railroad ties. Riding the rails back into the city, you know. And I do that for like a half an hour. And I'm like, I don't know where the I am. I know I'm going the right direction. That's all I know. But how far? I don't even know where the bar is now. So this has been a while now. And I'm like, I have no idea what's going on. So I. I go back into the trees. I find this big cliff in a ravine. I climb up it and I see a guard rail. And it's that highway. So I'm hiding behind the guard rail. And if a car Comes out. I like jump out and try to wave it down. You know, if I can tell it's not a police car. And most of them just probably see in their headlights this guy in a suit covered in mud waving down in this mucky highway. They're blowing my doors off. And finally a guy on the other side stops. It's pretty quiet. A car comes around every once in a couple of minutes. So I run over to like get into him and before I can touch the car, he just pins it and takes off. And I don't know if he got scared or was dicking with me or what. So I'm like, I'm on the wrong side of the highway. I go to run across the median, A cop car comes around the corner and he locks him up and just four wheel slides it. And before I know it, he's hanging out the door, pistol drawn, get the down and just giving it to me. And I'm like, oh God. So I'm laying on my face, he comes over and he was not like, he like almost ruined my rotator cuff cuffing me. And I'm like, this is no joke.

[Biz]

And he, this is how we get off the snide boys.

[Jay Rose Hill]

He shows me the back of the car. We go back to the, the bar. It's like 3:30 in the morning at this point. My whole team's lined up at the bar. My coach Sterling is sitting there like this with his glasses and his hair is all. They pulled him out of bed, out of the hotel.

[Biz]

No wonder he didn't want you touching.

[Whit]

The fucking this was after or the steering wheel.

[Jay Rose Hill]

He already hated me. He already hated me.

[Keith]

Don't touch any sticks or Hyundais.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Well, there's, there's like four cop cars there. And then when I get closer and they pull me up, two German shepherds come out of the trees. And I'm like, this is like a whole thing now, right? So I tell them where that car is. They wheel me over with the girl and she's gonna go get in. And all the doors are locked and this cop's got the flashlight and he sees like the, the keys are on the dash there. And then they all turn around with a flashlight to me in the back of the cop car and I'm. I've locked the door while I was wiping it down for Prince, eh. And I'm just like, I'm such a piece of. And they're just disgusted in me. So we had to sit there for an hour while a locksmith comes and I'm like, well, they get her open. I'm like, well, no harm, no foul, right, boys? Like, we probably can have a good night or whatever. And they're like, yeah, right. They take me downtown. They book me fully, like, fingerprints, mug shots. And they were rude. Like, I don't know what the Senators did around there that year, but they hated me, hated hockey players. They were like. Like trying to get the headshot camera to zoom out to show my suit's covered in mud and all this. And I'm like, we're really doing this, I guess. And they chucked a bag on the floor and in this room and said, shower up and put this on. So I shower, this cold shower. I put on a white T shirt, shirt, some ginches socks, and then this orange jumpsuit with Broome County Correctionals on the back. And I'm like. And then some slip on vans. So they bang on the door and I'm like, like, I guess I'm ready. And they're like, they come over to this cell and throw me in it. And it's just like a concrete bed, this gross ass blanket with people's hair all over it, no pillow. And I just lay there for the night and I'm contemplating my life. Like, what is going on? Am I. Is my career over? Like, can I ever.

[Biz]

No, you're just going to Mississippi.

[Jay Rose Hill]

How did this happen? In the morning, they throw me a bag, like a paper bag of food. I remember it was like. Like dry bread, warm tuna, two graham crackers and warm milk. And I'm like, I couldn't eat that. So then, then the cop comes in and goes, oh, Mr. Fancy Superstar, I'm sorry we don't have the caviar for you today, you piece of. And they're just. They're just opening the cell door to rip me and then closing it, like, hourly. And I'm like, what is going on? So finally this nice cop comes in, like the next day, and he's like, hey, man. Like, like, it's December 22nd. And they're like, what we need is a judge to, like, figure out what to do with you because you're not from this country and you're considered an alien. Whatever. And I was like, okay. And they're like, all the judges are on holidays, so. Oh, no, what's gonna happen is you're gonna be here throughout the holidays and a nurse is gonna come here and give you your hepatitis shot, and then you're gonna go into central housing. And I'm like. I'm like, what? And he's like, yeah, dude, there's nothing I can do. Like, I'm. I'm. Now I'm not just in jail. I'm, like, going to prison now. And I'm like, is this happening, dude? Like, I was around with a waitress at the bar, like. And they're like, our hands are tied. So I'm waiting around to get this nurse to give me a shot. And meanwhile, I'm thinking, like, when I go to general population, like, what do I do? I just, like, look at the ground and just play it like a. And just try to bend over? Or do I, you know, go bananas on the first guy to say something? Like, I don't know what to do.

[Biz]

Send a message. It's like, just like the coaches told you. Your buddies said, you gotta put on a show for us tonight.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, I. I don't know. But the nurse never showed up. I stayed there another day. They're like, I don't know why the nurse isn't here, but some lawyer working overtime in Norfolk had got a hold of a judge to sign something to release me. And off I went. And, you know, not much came of it. I. Once I got to tell my story, being like, do you think I wanted to steal a fucking Hyundai? Like, what would I do with it? Like, I'm just. Dick. I'm just an idiot. I'm not a thief. Like, I don't. It's not.

[Biz]

You put it on the board. The next game for the win, the Sonata. This one's for the fine, fun boys.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Let's earn it.

[Biz]

Let's get. Let's get back in the win column here.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Every time I went back to bingo, anytime after that, there was Hyundai symbols on the glass. Like, Monopoly. Do not pass go. Guys are dressed up in orange jumpsuits. They're dangling their keys at me on the tunnel. Like, it was this whole thing.

[Biz]

That is awesome.

[Whit]

Got you.

[Biz]

League story.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Biz]

So how many. How many hours were you in a jail cell for waiting to get released? Like, basically 48 hours.

[Jay Rose Hill]

36 or something like that. Like, I remember when I came out then, it was like, before a matinee game a day and a half later. And then. And they're like, just get on the bus and don't talk to the media or anything like that. And I had to sit on the play. No, they were like, sit on the bus and don't. Don't be seen and don't see anyone in the media. And everything the media was saying I stole a car to go from one strip club to the Next strip club. Which wasn't true. There was like a Google Maps thing on this website.

[Biz]

For the, for the beat.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Reporters needed to see another show. I guess they thought they're trying to.

[Biz]

Get called up too.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, literally. Yeah, that was.

[Biz]

Didn't pay his. His champagne room tab. And then stole her car.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Had the boogie but wasn't done.

[Biz]

Did you guys win the next game?

[Keith]

He was on the bus. He doesn't know.

[Jay Rose Hill]

I really don't think we did.

[Whit]

Andy Crush in his. In his prison outfit.

[Jay Rose Hill]

I remember when the guys came on the bus and they're like, Rosie, like.

[Keith]

Everyone'S worried about me.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Like no one knows. Knows nothing.

[Biz]

You got a teardrop tattoo.

[Keith]

Yeah, you should have stole the bus.

[Jay Rose Hill]

During the game I sat with the busy and like like unloaded my life story on him about like where I'm at. He was like my sounding board that night. I remember.

[Biz]

But where did you go for Christmas? Did you go back home?

[Keith]

Cell block 8?

[Jay Rose Hill]

No, I think we. I think I. I think I went and played Pinehurst number two.

[Biz]

What a week.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, it's good.

[Biz]

So like you, you're kind of like a little bit of a up but obviously innocent and kind hearted.

[RA]

Like it.

[Biz]

This. That, that was just the. Now did you get a Dewey? Like had you had a few pops?

[Jay Rose Hill]

No, none of that. That, that wasn't really the issue. It was. I know Dewey. No, none of that. It was just like why the did you steal this person's car? And like once someone called and said someone stole my car and they figured out who did it, it. It was like they just didn't. There was no talking to be done. It was like, don't talk to me. We're just following due process. And the. The further it got down the road, the more in the Twilight zone. I felt like, like how did that stupid one move turn into like I'm going into gen pop and thinking I need to fight freaking, you know, some maniac just to not become someone's. Like it was crazy how fast it went. But you know, I guess just, you know, the right thing happened at the end of the day in my mind is I got a slap on the wrist and I had to pay some fine or some. But like it was so overblown. But it was crazy how many people heard about that. People would talk about it to me on the ice. People were playing in Europe said I heard about that. And I was like, what a. What a show. My parents were like, what the are.

[Biz]

You doing down before social media too? So you know. Yeah, it was like William Wallace. The story just kept growing. That's probably why Berkey ended up picking you up.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Up.

[Biz]

He probably heard that. He's like, I'm signing that guy.

[Jay Rose Hill]

My agent did say they looked into my character and have found that there's no problems there, so it's a non issue.

[Whit]

I know if you had just gotten out of the car when you saw the cop and explained it, but once you went into the woods, that's when it was game on.

[Jay Rose Hill]

You're probably right. Yeah.

[Keith]

Lucky the dogs didn't get you.

[Biz]

How would you summarize your time in Toronto? Like, absolutely loved it. I mean, obviously you didn't have to probably deal with the media as much as the superstars, but. But what was your overall experience like?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, it was pretty awesome. Like, I was starting to feel like a veteran. Like, I, like, guys looked up to me and I kind of knew how to do things, knew how things worked. The time that I was on the Marleys down there, Dallas Eakins was the coach, and I just wanted to go through a wall for that guy like everybody did. Ended up going to the Calder Cup Final with him. Ran up against John Cooper's, like, historic team who, like, never lost and a year or whatever, so didn't get a ring out of that. But just being around the city and being part of the Leafs and like, all the people that come out of the woodwork, like people from back in the day you haven't talked to in 10 years, are like, oh, my God, I'm a die hard Leafs fan. And, you know, everyone's asking for tickets and jerseys. Like, they're just lined up Rose Hill jerseys on the shelf for me to toss out. But, you know, a guy that I knew that I played with, he came to the game anyway. I said, come here, I'll show you the room. And we went onto the bench and he looked up at the banners and he started crying. And I'm just like, this team means a lot to people. You know, it was when it was sinking in that, like, this organization's like a big deal and people really care and you're walking around and you kind of feel like you. Like there's a. You're like. Like somebody. I guess. You know, it was wild playing for that team. And I guess I kind of get that now, bringing it to the show that I do and understanding, like the gravity behind the Leafs and how many people give a. It was really cool to be part of that.

[Whit]

You mentioned Dallas Eakins. He was kind of. He was Kind of like a hotshot, like coach coming up. He got the Edmonton job. He told the reporters they had to eat healthy. That didn't go over well. And then he was out there and then he was with Anaheim and they didn't do great. And he's out of coaching now, huh? But guys.

[Biz]

Yeah, well, he's a great person. I think he'll take the chips away from stuff. Chop, chop wood, carry water. That was just his term. If he used to use that with you.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Maybe he had some, he had some catchphrases and stuff, but I mean, I got the sense that he genuinely cared about guys. And honestly, he was a hot shot coach coming out of there. He was the best coach not in the NHL. I wanted them to hire him instead of Randy Carlile so bad, and they almost did.

[Whit]

How mean was Randy?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Randy was so rude. Like, we're in Washington and I'm getting my like, under gear on after having my like warmup gear on. And he comes and he hadn't said, said no, nothing to me since being hired. And he's like, rosie, come talk to me out in the hall. And I was in a towel. I was like naked and I'm like, I was like, kind of like, do you want me to come? He's like, no, no, like, get your, get your stuff on. All good. I'll, I'll be outside. Get your, get your gear on. So I'm like, shorts, T, shirt, shoe, shoe. Straight out there, right? Like, quick. And he's holding the door to the tunnel, to the bench. And he looks down and he goes, nice you to join me, me. And then walks down the tunnel and lets the door, the big heavy door, like close in my face so I gotta pull it open. And then he stands there, he won't even look me in the eye. And he's looking at the half wall. He's like, you see that half wall? You see that there? I'm like, yeah, I see it. He's like, I gotta trust you on that. Do you understand? You can't turn the puck over there. You gotta be a beast there. You gotta get the puck to support or get it out.

[Keith]

Do you understand?

[Jay Rose Hill]

I have to trust you. And I feel like this is our little pump up talk before I go go out and give her, right? And I'm like, yeah, you got it. I, I want to be able to gain your trust and I understand the gravity of that, that position. And I, I got to be the guy that gets that out. He's like, good, you're not playing and walked away. And I was scratching. Had to take all my off sometimes.

[Biz]

Man, what the.

[Jay Rose Hill]

You should have seen your mind.

[Whit]

Ryan Carter was scratched and scratched and scratched. And we had a bag skate in Anaheim and we had to push the net and he pushed it directly into Randy. It was. And then I don't think he played again. Like, that was it. But I was like, I think he finally snapped carts. Is the man great dude? And I was like, oh, my God. Like, Randy made him snap. He was so mean, so rude.

[Biz]

Anybody call him out in. In Toronto when you were there? Just like with described. Like, did anyone say finally this and. And snap on him?

[Whit]

Teemu owned him?

[Jay Rose Hill]

No. Like, when he got signed, like, there was guys that had been in Anaheim before who were like that, where's my phone? Like, I'm calling my agent. I'm getting out of here. I'm not playing for this guy again. And I'm like, well, this is a good start. The guy isn't even on an airplane yet and everyone wants to bail out of town. So I was like, why didn't they hire Dallas? Like, yeah, he was killing it. And then eventually I knew he'd get a shot. He got a shot in Edmonton. And like, dude, they. They like handcuffed him. They made him do all this and be a hard ass and, and take all this away and like, change the culture. That wasn't him. Like, he was the guy to be like, boys, what do you need today? Like, what are you feeling? We need to stay off the ice. Do we need to just do something in the gym and then maybe go for lunch together? Like, he was that guy where he like, put the onus on us and we felt like, responsible. We wanted to go through a wall for him. He was unbelievable. And then I heard these horror stories about Edmonton and I think he even mentioned we've interviewed him a few times. He's like, yeah, I wasn't able to do that the way I wanted to there. And it.

[Keith]

Him.

[Whit]

He actually now he's the head coach of GM of. Of Mannheim in the Del. So that's good. He's still in the game.

[Biz]

Oh, awesome.

[Whit]

I didn't know that.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, he's still going.

[Biz]

What was it like in Philly? I ended up fighting you when you were with the Flyers. Like, obviously a prototypical, prototypical flyer, tough. Seem like you enjoy your time. Another great organization where you said, like, you walked around with the Leafs and you feel like you're somebody where I feel like Philadelphia with the alumni that was there must have felt Very similar. No.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, it was wicked. I was like older and more comfortable I guess and just more mature. It wasn't like wide eyed the whole time like in Toronto and you know, we had a young team like, like Hartnell and, and, and Giroux and Voracek and these guys like they're all like. We had a wicked group of guys. So we had, we had a blast at the rink, away from the rink and wish we, you know, won a little bit more. Laviolette was there when I got there and you know, that's when I signed like a two year one way. And he said I'm gonna play you every night. Like I can't guarantee you 12 minutes, but the boys like you when you're playing and in the lineup, like it's not going to be like Toronto, you're going to play every night. And I'm like, fuck, this is like, like my opportunity to like solidify myself in the NHL and finally got a guy who's in my corner and first game as a flyer was in Toronto. I fought or and I scored the game winner and I'm like, we are off to the races and like Laviolette loved me and I'm like, here we go. Had a good summer of training and he got canned two days into the season, two games. Canned them because Ed Snyder, the late great Ed Snyder, I remember him in the coach's office, he was, was stomping his feet like a child. Like he was so furious that we dropped the first two games of the year and he had had a cancer scare and he was getting up there in age and he wanted to win a Stanley cup before he passed away and he had no patience and he can Lavi. And I was like, fuck. Like the one guy that's been in my corner for all these years and they can him two years into my deal. And so Chief came in Berube and I thought that would be good. But Chief just didn't really feel like playing me. I played like 34 games that year and it was wicked being there and everything, but I, I just, I feel like it was so close to being different. But it was fun. Like I knew who I was and knew all the guys inside out scrapping this guy and that guy understood my role, when to fight, when not to. And it was, it was a hell of a lot of fun. Philly's wicked.

[Whit]

That's just like you said though, that how quick it can turn in, in this 100 york, right? Because you look back like if Lavi stays there all year. Who knows? You might not have been playing in England two years later.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Exactly.

[Biz]

I played there too, which is nuts.

[Whit]

You guys lost a lot of light.

[Biz]

On the way out.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Dude, we like mirrored our careers. Yeah, it's weird.

[Whit]

Did you do the program over there where you got your masters or were you just playing?

[Jay Rose Hill]

No, I just said, just pay me as much as you can. I don't need that. I didn't want to do school. I'm not going backwards, remember?

[Whit]

Yep.

[Biz]

Were you. You must have enjoyed it over there. I. I don't know if Manchester had a team when I'd went over there during the lockout. So were you going to like Manchester United games and really just enjoying the. The life, work, hockey, balance?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, like after, you know, after my time and, you know, I went back to the minors after Philly for a year or two and I was. I was tired, I was sore. The grind had gotten to me and I was like, I need to change here. And I kind of got thrown into it because I had a deal with the Coyotes, actually, with Chaika. I'm like, I'm like older than this general manager. And he offers my agent a contract, says, think about it for the weekend and get back to me. So we do. I check out the depth chart and the pipeline and where shit is and fee or Tucson and everything. And I'm like, this looks pretty awesome. So I'm like, tell my agent, like, let's tell him we'll sign. We accept. So on Monday he calls him back and Chaika's like, like, oh, yeah. I, ah. Yeah, we stayed in house with that one. I kind of forgot to let you guys know. And my agent was like, that guy's a August. And he'd never seen anything like that in his lab. Here's a. Here's an offer. Get back to me on Monday. Get back to me on Monday. Oh, we gave it to somebody else. So now I'm just standing there with up creek like I don't have anything. And got a call from Ryan Finnerty, a guy from Alberta who's running a team out there. And it was in Glasgow to start, and then he moved to Manchester. I followed him and saying all the right things like, dude, I want to play you. I can tell that you can play, but I haven't been able to get the opportunity. You can fight 0 times or 15 times. I could care less. I want you net front on the power play, like saying all the right things. So total breath of fresh air. I was like, and I'm obsessed With golf. So I'm like looking at the open rotation and seeing how many I can hit when, Right, like just, yeah, this will work. So, so go over there for a change of scenery. And it was actually a nightmare getting over there kind of a story. I, I, I, I just had my second kid and they screwed up his birth certificate so he had no passport. I had to go over by myself. So I fly from Calgary to Halifax. I got this three hour layover. I don't really know what to do. So I just go to the bar and there's an empty bar in the corner. And lo and behold, they're playing the Tragically Hips last concert ever. Like Gord Downey's.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Jay Rose Hill]

In Kingston Time. Yeah. And I'm watching this on tv and this bartender at this empty bar is from Kingston. So we start shooting the. And we're watching this whole concert. I'm like, I cannot believe how perfect this is. I, I, I love the hip and I can't believe we get to watch this. So he's sliding me shock tops this whole concert and I'm just burying them. And I remember having this big double decker burger with the fries and all the rest of it. And I'm like, this is just unbelievable. And what a night. All of a sudden my name's getting called over all the loudspeakers. I'm like, is that my name? I've been, I've been tuning out the speaker above my head and I look at my watch and I'm like, oh my God. I am like, my plane's leaving. So I start running through the terminal and like this, this pilot crew is going, are you that J guy? They're calling. I'm like, yeah. They're like, holy, buddy. Like, this has been a problem for a while, right? Right. So finally they like open up and let me on the plane. I'm like, sorry, sorry. And I get on the plane and this whole big bird is, is staring at me like, this is the we've been waiting for. So, like, just brutal. And I just smell like shock tops. And I'm bumping in everybody and I gotta get over to the window seat and everything. So anyway, like, I must have just like conked out. And I wake up. We must be over the Atlantic somewhere. It is pitch black. The people beside me are like fully wrapped up in blankets and, and my glands in the back of my mouth are going. And I'm going, what the? And I, I just like instantly, and I just scramble for a puke bag. They like, don't exist anymore. And I, and I just, and I just fill up my hands in this seat in the, in midair and I'm going, oh my God. And then Morse comments. So I'm like what the do I. And I just, so I just gun it under like under my feet and then fill up my hands again under the seat. Fill up my hands again. I can see the teeth marks in the half chewed fries in this thing. I'm like, what is going on right now? Like, so I got under the seat and now I'm like, what do I do now? And I'm using the magazine to try to scoop it up and it's, it smells bad and I'm like, what is going on? And I didn't really know what to do. So I just like went back to sleep. I woke up once to the. A stewardess with gloves and a mask on, like spraying Febreze over top of me. I'm like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Like, what do you say? So then we hit, we hit the, we hit the ground and I wake up and I'm like, just get me the off this point. I feel like everyone's staring at me and everything feel like a complete. And so some guy takes me to my apartment. As I get there, one of the guys on the team calls me. He's like, Rosie, I heard you landed. You want to go out with the boys here right now? I don't even know I, what time it is, what day it is. And I'm like, dude, I just, I should probably just get into my place, right? So I get into my place and the cable on the Internet isn't hooked up. It's a good spot and everything, but it's. Nothing's hooked up. I just stand there and I'm like, oh, now the scaries are, are setting in. And I hit redell. I'm like, buddy, you better, you better come grab me. So we grab me, we go out in Glasgow and we are playing darts and cranking beers and drinking whiskey and having a time. I got to know all the boys. It was unbelievable. I go home and sleep again. Wake up, don't even know what time is like, oh, we're going to the rink. And I'm like, okay, what's going on today? They're like, oh, fitness testing. And I'm like, what? So I'm the new guy there and everyone's like, good to have you, Rosie. So I can't dog in the fitness testing. Like I wanna, I kind of put on a good first impression. So we're doing these prowlers where you're pushing the sled with weight off. And I just go hammer down blackout and just go so hard that I had to like lock my knees to walk to the. The bathroom and then just. Just fill up another garbage can. I've been in the country for like 12 hours. I've puked twice. Made an idiot myself three times. It was a nightmare. I called my wife and gave her the Kohl's notes, and she's like, what the. Like, can you not do anything by yourself or what? And I'm like, I'm just a. I'm the hottest mess over here so far, honey. That.

[Whit]

It was the hip. It was the hips last month.

[Biz]

Yeah, it was that.

[Keith]

Steal the plane.

[Biz]

Yeah. New Orleans.

[Whit]

Yeah.

[Biz]

New Orleans is sinking, baby. Did you know it was going to be your last game when you played your last game in Manchester?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, I did. It was like Christmas time probably, where, I don't know, you feel shittier and shittier and you're getting older and it's harder to warm up. And I'm like, I used to get better every year and now I feel like I'm probably starting to get worse. It was just an ugly feeling. And, you know, my kid was starting to like, not want to move when we went overseas because he had like, friends in town and stuff. And I'm like, this is gonna start. And we had, you know, so much with 2 kid, I'm just like, where's the motivation now? Like, why am I. I always had a motivation. Now it's like, what? Where is it? So talked to my wife and stuff, and at Christmas I was like, I think it's gonna be my last. This is it. Like I'm. This is gonna be my last season. I don't think we're gonna do it again. And Dane Byers, a good sasky boy, was in the exact same boat. And he had made that decision already. So it was like me and his last tour kind of thing. We had very similar careers as well. And then you got to like, savor every last bus trip and practice and team event and all that stuff. And last game, I knew it was my last game and could kind of savor it and soak it and like just kind of like absorb it rather than, you know, some guys careers are ended by getting cut or getting no contract or getting injured or Covid or some it. And then it's just gone. And like, I can see that being a sick feeling to live with. I got to prepare for it and like do it on my terms, which was pretty good.

[Biz]

That's awesome.

[Whit]

What a run you had.

[Biz]

What a run, buddy.

[Whit]

Over you, man.

[Biz]

Couple clicks for Rosie, boys. What a run, eh?

[Whit]

And Rosie, I see all the clips. I see your show. You do a hell of a job, buddy. Very opinionated, passionate. Stand by what you say. Like, I, I really enjoy watching your content.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Dude.

[Keith]

Dude.

[Whit]

Pretty cool.

[RA]

Appreciate it.

[Whit]

I probably didn't really think you were gonna like, you mentioned like Sarah Valley's like, oh, we need a guy. It wasn't like you were right when you retired. I'm gonna get into media. It's just worked out well for you.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, it just fell in my lap and it worked out good. I like doing it. Yeah, I'll plug. It's Leafs morning take. It's called on, on the Nation Network. Me and Nick Alberga, we do it five days a week and it's, it's all Leafs and he's good at getting all kinds of guests and everyone you could think of, celebs, different people. It's a lot of fun to do and keeps me in the game. I didn't watch hockey for the first little while after I retired. I had no reason or interest or anything. Now like, you know the Leafs biz, you know, like there's no day goes by without new drama information going down.

[Biz]

I don't get too excited about it. Like in, at the start of the year, I let them get their like 20, 30 games in and, and okay, then we'll see what's going on.

[Whit]

Which like, I wouldn't get excited either if Columbus was drumming them.

[Biz]

Okay, here we go. Congrat. Congratulations to the Blue Jackets. They had a fucking great game last night. Scored a few off the rush. Leafs are struggling off the rush as, as Mike Kelly tweeted out and worst in the league with 14 goals allowed. What do you make of these Toronto Maple Leafs right now without Mitch Marner, like that was obviously the big change. I believe you were pretty vocal in, in not bashing them, but just like calling it, I guess how you saw it. How do you feel about maybe the way that you handled it and that whole situation unraveled?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah, I was in the middle of a golf trip when I really put the hammer down on old Mitchie boy there one year in a playoff game. But again, I, I, that's what I thought. So I said it and I said I wasn't going to do this job if, if I had to toe the line or, or something like that. I'm going to say what I think and be honest. And, you know, without him right now, like, him not being there is not the reason for their struggles right now. Positionally, they're all over the place. I think that's something that can be fixed early. They've had injury problems and Stoli and they have Primo in last night. Like, what? There's all kinds of problems. I think their problems can be fixed quick, but they're trying to figure out who the hell they are and what. How they're supposed to play. And the thing that pisses me off is you've made this identity change. You're the biggest team in the league, but, like, where is it? Like, I saw McCabe be an absolute beast one night the other night, and it was just like, oh, like, everyone's just over the moon over it. It's like, that's what you should do, like, daily. But when things are going wrong, you know, people are looking at their leadership. Like, there's just no emotions. There's no, like, there's no Nathan McKinnon. Like. Like, look how pissed off he is. Look how much he.

[Biz]

Yeah, I would like to. To see Austin maybe have a little bit more of that temperament. You'd hope that it comes with. With more maturity. Like, I. And I can't be a hypocrite. Like, I was like. Like Joe Burrow was walking in with these, like, fancy outfits when the team was struggling at the beginning of last year, where I'm like, ah, I don't know if you're the starting quarterback, if you should be rocking like a pink tank top into the rink, where, like last night, I think it was like a. Like a Balenciaga sweater and it's like, kind of like open. It's got like the little, like, where I'm just like, ah, I don't know, maybe until we kind of establish that. That identity and you're a little bit harder to play against. Maybe just throw on the. The normal suit. That's just kind of. Maybe that's my old school thinking, but what.

[Whit]

Can I ask you guys both something? Rosie and Biz, do you think there's any worry in terms of, like, his injuries? Like, not necessarily right now. He's injured, but he had the back, he had the wrist. Is that something that he maybe still feels that could change? You see? Comments, right? Like, he doesn't move like he did. Now we're 11 games in, he's got five goals. It's like, I think people are definitely overreacting a little, but I wonder if you guys think the injuries could be age?

[Biz]

Yeah, I think obviously, I guess I'm a little bit concerned about, you know, you lose that little half a step. But I feel like I like the way he plays. I feel like he competes. Like, would I, like I said, would I like him to have more that Nate McKinnon? Every fucking GM and fan of a team would want your superstar having that type A where you're gonna fucking. I mean, look at that fight that McKinnon ended up going after McAvoy like he has, like he has no problem handling his own business. So I would like to see more of that for Matthews. But if you go even back to last year's playoffs or anytime they're in a big game, like, maybe he doesn't end up scoring or on the game sheet, but he's down low winning that battle and distributing the puck and getting in those hard areas. So sometimes it's not always done with like brute force, but it's like if he's competing and I mean, it's like kind of like same as Sasha Barkov. Like, he ain't. He doesn't necessarily have that type A, but he's very reliable and plays a great 200 foot game. So I don't know. Do you agree with me on the outfit thing? Is it just maybe a little bit like, like, like John Tavares wouldn't. Wouldn't do that.

[Keith]

Right?

[Biz]

He's gonna be very vanilla and handle his business.

[Jay Rose Hill]

I, I would be lying if I didn't say it bothers me. Like, my buddies that are that chirp the Leafs all the time are ripping on me for them having earrings and purses and scarves and it's just, it's the old school, you know, toxic masculinity that is me and my generation and us. Like, I don't like it. Like, I don't get how you can put on this weird looking that no normal human would wear and then get your get crushed in the game and then put that back on and would go do interviews and walk out of the rink. Like, don't you feel like a fucking idiot? But I'm old and they're young and they like fashion or some shit, so whatever. Like, if that's not holding you back, you know, like, to wit's point, is he injured? Like, he, he's got three Rocket Richards and a heart trophy. Like, but we haven't seen a sliver of really of that in like a year and a half. It's almost going on. So it's like, like Is he banged up? Why was he in Germany? Like, we wouldn't know if he was. The Leafs are so tight lipped about stuff. But like when you talk about the, not the effort but like the intensity and the, the willing to do things that you know are out of your comfort zone, that he's not really willing to go there that much and then he's wearing all that weird looking and it's kind of like it's easy to get on the guy. Right. And you can see why he takes criticism. I don't know why you'd open yourself up to criticism, but, but again, I'm not from that generation, but his injury history does concern me, I would say.

[Biz]

And, and also, like, man, he lugged a lot of miles over the last like, how many years he been in the league? Eight, nine years. He's not exactly a spring chicken anymore. So. Yeah. And I do find guys who have those enormous frames, they tend to wear down a little faster than guys who are, are water bugs out there. Like Kyle Connor might be 20 years in the league and still moving around the way that he does. And I also don't want to come off as a hypocrite because I'm one of those guys who I, I do enjoy fashion. I, you know, I throw on different stuff sometimes. But I also understand that I wouldn't be the leader of a team. I wouldn't be a captain. I'd still be a fourth line pleasant peasant who's in the room as a jester before the game, probably with the wearing only thing but my purse around my horse, Martin making the guys laugh or something. You know what I'm saying? So there's a difference? Yeah, it's different. We're in different situations. So I don't know if that is going to continue to evolve with, with quote unquote maturity. But, and, and also you can't, you can't prevent the guy from being himself. But I, I agree with you. Like, they got no Lawton. Roy's still getting settled in with Dakota. Joshua's coming along, but would like to see more of a mean streak from him given his. And maybe, maybe that comes at the halfway point because some guys are a little bit bored just 10, 15 games in the season. I don't know what they need to get their juices going, but I trust that Chief will find, help them find their identity and they'll be in the same boat as last year.

[Jay Rose Hill]

And everybody said when they made these changes in the summertime, like, don't be surprised if they don't come out of the gates hot. This will be a feeling out process of figuring out who they are. It might take some time, have some patience. But it's Toronto. So for five games in, people are talking about, do we burn it down? It's like I remind myself every day, this is October. They won the Atlantic last year. They had basically the same record every.

[Biz]

Year, 500 after 15 games. Everybody wants to sell the farm.

[Jay Rose Hill]

There you go.

[Keith]

I do think that we're all old school and wore the black and gray suits and you know, we played when the salary cap was $30 million and bitched about how we wish we could wear whatever we wanted. And now we bitch that the guys get, get more freedom with it. And the caps at 120 million. So I think they're doing something right. Obviously I agree with you guys, like going and doing a press conference after. I wouldn't want to be subjected to that where you're play like and you're wearing a tank top to the thing. But I think letting them see their personality has helped grow the league so much that they've kind of earned it.

[Biz]

No doubt. I'm just, I'm playing, I'm playing devil's advocate. Although I look, I'm a priest, as a priest, but yeah, and it wasn't a knock. It's just like, I don't know, like, okay, like two thousand dollar Balenciaga sweater and it's kind of got like a ribbon, like it's a Christmas present. I don't know. I don't know how, how did you guys feel about it?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Well, I could pull that off point though, like Willie's got a YouTube channel now. I haven't checked it out but like there's going to be kids of that young generation who would not bother to come across the Leafs or Willie Nylander or hockey in general, except they stumble across his YouTube content. He's doing something cool and they're like, mom, I want to play hockey or mom, I want to go to a Leafs game or go to this autograph signing strictly based on that. So to your point, like it helps grow the game and it's the new generation and yeah, I mean, let's call a spade a spade. We're kind of the old guys now bitching at, at the young generation for doing it differently than we did.

[Whit]

Rosie, it's, it's been a pleasure having you on, man. We're definitely going to do this again, get you on and break down the Leafs and maybe the Atlantic a little bit throughout the season if you want to. But. But plug your show once more so the listeners know.

[Biz]

Yeah boys, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you, bro, Wherever you come?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Listen to your podcast and stuff. YouTube Leafs, Leafs Nation 401 we're every day at 11am Five days a week. Leafs morning. Take me and Alberga kind of break it down. So yeah, we have lots of fun for jump on it if you're a Leafs fan and even if you're not, maybe we'll convert you.

[Biz]

You did dodge the Mitch question, but that's okay. We'll find out. We'll get you on next time.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Let's. Let's get into Mitch next time. You can pull the clips from my rant again. Middle of a golf trip on that one, but don't regret it.

[Whit]

All right, see you Rosie.

[Biz]

No regards.

[Jay Rose Hill]

See you boys.

[Biz]

See you, Rosie.

[Whit]

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[RA]

Hello, everybody, and welcome to Ra's World here on the Spitting Chickens podcast. Boys, I was so fired up when I realized we were going to have a Halloween episode. It's been a few minutes. I know you're probably wondering who I am. We'll get some guesses in in a minute when it gets out last Monday's app real quick. Boys, I appreciate the kind words you had for me. It was very nice. It was really emotional. And Keith, I just wanted to say thank you to you as well for acknowledging my mom. She's worked on the recovery community for years. She's retired now. And you know, I talk about my dad over here. All the lives he saved as a five man, but my mom probably saved just as many as. As a substance abuse counselor work on that field, so. So thanks for that, Keith. But now we got to give some guesses. What should I cost them?

[Jay Rose Hill]

Chucky?

[Biz]

No.

[RA]

Child's play. Nope.

[Biz]

No, I've actually seen this movie.

[Whit]

I have seen Clue what you are.

[Keith]

You look unbelievable with hair.

[Whit]

With hair.

[RA]

I know you might get okay with this on tonight.

[Biz]

No, we should send you what Donnie does to R.A. bieber Stool Season 2 if you want to get a full. Full weave of hair. But just going back to your first episode, Ari, you were electric. You sounded incredible. People were obviously very happy for you and. And you deserve everything that you. The praise as far as you got online and in the spit and chickles community. Buddy, everybody's really proud of you for the. For the turnaround and we are so fired up to have you back. Now going to your costume that it was. It was a. A girl was in the movie and the person that you are, I believe was her imaginary friend. End, was it not?

[RA]

No, actually, the movie. I'm. Where I'm from, I don't think his. I think there's one female in the whole movie for the character's mother. So.

[Keith]

What. What error.

[RA]

Okay, the movie came out in 1986. It's. It's a renowned classic. It's. It's a bit of an obscure character, as you would expect from me. It's. It's one of the most, like the best, like, coming of age movies ever made. I mean, you've all seen it. Nope. Could. It's set in the 1950s. It's got a classic song.

[Whit]

No, I was gonna say Outsiders.

[Biz]

No, it's a hard knock life for us.

[RA]

Not Andy. No, this would be Red Hair junior if I was Andy, let me see. Okay. What one of the Boston Pod might take. One of the biggest guys a pod might take is one of the stars of this movie as well.

[Whit]

Commenter.

[RA]

I'm sorry, I've had my take. Is one of the biggest this big?

[Whit]

Oh, Stand by me. Yep.

[RA]

Which car? But now who am I?

[Whit]

Are you the kid who gets stung by the train?

[RA]

Knocked me out of my kids. Like, I knocked the life out of my body. Ray Brown, the dead. Give him Stand By Me. Yeah.

[Keith]

All right.

[Biz]

Okay.

[Whit]

I just said the kid who got stung by bees. Wasn't that a different movie?

[RA]

That was My Girl with Macaulay. Yeah.

[Whit]

All right.

[Biz]

What made you decide that?

[Whit]

It's kind of a dark costume right there.

[RA]

Yeah. I mean, it's be to a T. Exactly. Wait, I. You know, I don't know if I just watch. I mean, I watch it every few months. One of those movies I watch all the time just because it's so good. And I. I don't know. It just came to me. And, you know, I haven't dressed up like the ex wasn't a big Halloween person, so I haven't dressed up much. I think the last time was when I was Randall P. McMurphy. The last show we dressed up. So it came to me. I went online. I got. I got the wig, the fake blood, and this is the key. The kids. Well, they're bobo kids, but, you know, he got knocked out of his sneakers and. Yeah, I thought it was a pretty cool idea. So. Yeah. I'm Ray Brown from standby Me.

[Biz]

How many people that you've seen or did you just get dressed up before?

[RA]

I just put this on a little while ago. I've been sitting here, my. With my wig and blood on. Wait for you.

[Keith]

What do you think? He was walking around town.

[RA]

You know, people might not get Halloween.

[Biz]

Week, but I know he's not a big birthday week guy, but maybe he's a big Halloween week guy.

[Whit]

All right. What do you think the percentage of people seeing I will get that cost?

[Biz]

I was. I was gonna say, do you view it as a success if you walk around and that's your Halloween costume and not one person guesses it?

[RA]

I think. I think probably maybe 25, maybe 20%. It'll be mostly dudes because Stand By Me. You know, girls have seen it, but I would say it's more of a teenage boy movie. It's like when I dressed up as Travis Bickle from a Taxi Driver a few years ago. I went to two or three parties. I legit. When I still had here legit, gave myself a mohawk. And not, you know, one lady, one woman. And at any party knew who I was. Every dude knew I was Travis Pickle from Taxi Driver. So, yeah, I. I don't go by. Everyone has to know it like, to. To be a good costume. I just think, like, obscure. And when, you know, when you laugh, when you see it, that, that, That's. That's the payoff right there for me.

[Biz]

No, I. I actually think like, like, kind of the opposite. I think that the. If nobody got it, you would feel like, yes, like, it was different. It was obscure.

[Keith]

Right.

[Biz]

Now we have posted it in real time on Twitter. So I'm interested to know by the time this ends in 15, 20 minutes, how many people have guessed what you are. But awesome job, buddy. And any plans for the weekend?

[RA]

Nothing right now. I was kind of hoping. I mean, I'm sure there's a party. I'm old, man. I don't get invited to the parties like I'm a young buck anymore. But it is Friday night. I mean, if I go out, I kind of feel obligated just to wear it. Even if I just go to the Tavern because, you know, everybody in their mother's gonna be dressed up and, you know, I mean, I only spent a few bucks for the shit for the costume, but. But yeah, I probably will. Will dress up and just go out just for shits and giggles. But, yeah, I love just pour beers.

[Whit]

In the shoes, too, and just drink them out of the shoes.

[RA]

Yeah, they're nice and clean. Anyways, so, yeah, it was fun. It was fun. And I sent it to a couple of my cousins and a few of my buddies, and they were struggling to come up with it, too. I mean, because you don't really see this much hair on the dude when he's dead. Staring up at the sky. One of my buddies goes, is that your last photo from Benson?

[Whit]

Does the guy in the movie have not one line because he's dead? Dead?

[RA]

No, not at all. They find him at the end and he's sitting there like, you know, dead as Dylan, just staring off into space. And yeah, that. That's it. Just a little obscure.

[Keith]

No one's getting it.

[Whit]

No one's.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah.

[Biz]

So when did that click in your head? Did you watch it recently?

[RA]

Yeah, I did. Yeah. It came in my head and I kind of said, well, that's a good Halloween costume, but this was, like, probably months ago. And then when I realized, oh, we're going to be, you know, filming, like, having a Halloween Drop and I, I bought all this and, you know, we. We could have not even been doing this. They would have been like, hey, we're scrapping Halloween. But I says, I gotta wear this somewhere. So. Yeah.

[Biz]

Before we get into RA world hockey wise, anything stand out to you since the last episode, the Frozen Frenzy? Like, what's the one thing that you were like? That is what I want to talk about.

[RA]

The Anaheim Ducks are going to be a playoff team this year. I, I have no doubt about that. I think Brand Quindolan was huge father. I mean, they've had, you know, like you go back to Zegrus, man. I mean, he's, you know, he's one of these younger kids. He's probably a little bit on the like most sensitive side than guys 20 years ago and he had a deal with, you know, Bob Murray and Greg Cronin and Pat Verbeek. I mean, those are, you know, good guys that. Well, these two or three of them are good guys. They draw, but they're hot asses, man. And I think it was a tough environment for that kid to work in and I think bring it. Bringing in Quadville who's, you know, been out of the game for a couple days, I think he has the perfect touch for that team. They got some incredible talent there. And yeah, I, I think Joe Stahl is going to be the.

[Biz]

You think he's got a touch for Zegras?

[RA]

No, I'm saying, I'm saying he's not all. Probably Quinville probably would have been good for Z Grist. I'm saying that there was a lot of hot asses running the show in Anaheim. And I think Quinnville. Not that he can't be a hot ass. I think, you know, maybe a few years away from the game, maybe, you know, he knows how to maybe deal with these younger kids a little bit better. But yeah, I was just confused because.

[Biz]

I was like, I thought he got Delta Philly, but I get what you're saying.

[RA]

Yeah, I'm saying like, in other words, I think Quenville is probably a little bit. Again, I know he could be a tough coach, but a little bit more of maybe a softer touch for these guys. Maybe, you know, Corona was a hot ass like Whit had talked about and you know, Verbeek is, is, you know, the general manager. But those are guys with like so sort of brusque personality. So I think Quinville's been huge for him. I think Toe Stahl is going to be a number one goal. If he's not Already. And you know Leo Carlson, I mean we interviewed him a couple years ago at the draft. This kid is going to be a superstar. He just keeps getting better every year. And Mason McTavish, absolute fucking throwback kid could have played in the 70s and the 80s. So. Yeah.

[Whit]

Did you see, did you see McTavish's shootout goal the other night? Yeah, it's, that was sick.

[RA]

I, I, I, I wonder if people are going to start because I mean, he does get a little slow. I mean you're supposed to have forward momentum all the time. I think goalies might, you know, stop maybe, you know, rightfully maybe complaining because it's like, all right, he's not maybe going forward progress at a certain point. But yeah, it's a nasty move and he's been, and he's been beating the shit out of them too.

[Keith]

So do you think Doe style will be the starter for check in the Olympics?

[RA]

Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know. Who would you, would you put before him right now? I mean this kid's stuck and actually do actually Doish is, Doish is checked too, isn't he? No, C.L. i think, I think he might be checked, that kid. He could probably give him some competition. But also Pasha calling, saying Columbus the bad team the other day. Come on, Posh, get your head out of here.

[Biz]

He's a idiot dog.

[RA]

He's a, it's an idiot. They always play hard, you know, all the time. I think they're just on the cusp of the playoffs bar right now and it's funny to be talking about playoffs, but we know that statistics that at Thanksgiving, American Thanksgiving, which is as late as it could be this year, the 28th of November. So what is it, 70, 75, 27th this year? Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, that does the 20th, but oh yeah.

[Biz]

Going back to your point though, about like I feel it in Yans you played for Quinnville. Like he's stern when he has to be, but he, it definitely is a player coach and knows how to like develop young players. He did it obviously in, in Chicago with that core group and how they, they, they, they showed growth throughout that time. There was a cool clip of him and Leo Carlson on the bench after Leo made this like really nice play and he went down all the way to the bench and he's like, hey, pretty decent, eh? Like to like just show him some love and like a guy of that stature like going and just kind of joke around with a young player like that. It, it, I Think it means a lot. And it, for sure, you know, it shows your, the, the players that he's got confidence in you and, and, and he wants to befriend you rather than just being like, hey, I'm this, you know, three, four time Stanley cup winner and I'm the boss around here. Kind of maybe the way it was being ran before, but minus the cops.

[Keith]

No, he, he's, he looks more stern than he is. Like, he's hard on, on, you know, what he wants you to do every game, like what you know, he expects out of you. But like you said, I remember one time in Detroit, I made a pass and he comes down and the same exact thing, he's like, that's the best pass I've ever seen. Like, little things like that that just like make you feel good, especially from a guy like that. And I can only imagine for a young kid like that to hear that from Q.

[Jay Rose Hill]

But he, you could, you can tell.

[Keith]

That he was a player for as long as he was and then a coach, he's a player's coach. He knows what it takes to be a coach that guys respect and fear a little bit. But I think he's the perfect, perfect fit for that group.

[RA]

I think, you know, positive reinforcement, I think that's huge. Especially like you said with these younger guys, you know, it was always negative for so long and I think that's not particularly healthy and it doesn't work with guys. But yeah, the positive stuff, I think you get more, you know, you get guys going to give you more effort because you're telling them they're doing good when they're doing good and as long as you're not blowing smoke up their ass. So also two teams I try to make sure biz I watch all the time. Montreal, I know I'm a Boston guy, but that team is so entertaining to watch. Cole Caufield, what he's doing, I mean, he's already got the overtime, like goal record for the Canadians. Like, that's insane. And the shocks, I know they, they've been struggling a little bit, but Macklin, Celebrini, I had predictions. I, I didn't end up getting to him because we started a little bit late, but I said he's going to break the 90 point barrier this year and what this kid's doing at 19, he's going to be a perennial selkie and hot trophy candidate. So, yeah, that's what I've been watching. And Biz, I know you made a.

[Whit]

No look past the Smith Tuesday Night. That was gross.

[RA]

Like, they have real, like, taves and camp potential win. Yeah, they could be the next. The next version of those guys.

[Biz]

Going back to the Caulfield in Montreal entering tonight. This is a tweet from yesterday or the day before. This is from Jazz Stat Man. Jazz. Entering Tonight, everyone with 11 career OT goals played in at least 515 career games. This was Cole Caufield's 298th career game.

[RA]

Wow.

[Biz]

He beat it by just over 200 games. So pretty impressive from the young guy, especially in a year where he's trying to crack that Olympic squad.

[RA]

As they say, banana lands Biz. I know you mentioned the snowball and Takara talking about Gruden. You're not going to be surprised, but I was at Taxi at that game as well. I swear to God.

[Biz]

R.A. was on the sideline and kind of bumped into the ref. That's why he missed the call.

[RA]

I was on Noah's Actors.

[Whit]

All right.

[Keith]

Nobody snow in his freezer.

[Whit]

So my brother was at that game with my cousin. And nobody, like, thought once. Once that, you know, the fumble was picked up, that there was even a chance of it, like, getting reversed. Right, Right, exactly. Everyone in the stands like, oh, it's over.

[RA]

We were standing on. On the bleaches or the seats. And then, you know, Brady fumbled. Cause it was a fumble. And like, you know, hell of a season. No one thought the playoffs were gonna happen. We got off, started walking on the players. Under review. Like, under review. What's that? They reversed the call. We went back up, back on our seats. And what was crazy about that, when it was like. It was one of the most surreal events I've ever been to. Sporting concert, whatever it was, it really. It never stopped snowing. But it wasn't like, frigid cold. It was just cold enough to snow. And everyone in there had like a. Like a half inch or an inch, a layer of snow on it, but nobody was like, frigid freezing. And then, you know, you couldn't see the Venatori's tie in field go. You lost it in the. In the fog. And the arms go up from the referee. It was just. Just one of those games, man. You just always remember for the. For the rest of the time was it was quite a game to be at.

[Biz]

That's awesome.

[RA]

Again, back to last week, Keith, you also mentioned the. The Knights of Columbus. It's funny because, you know, with Coop, you know, the boys, although he pops in and we kind of keep it low. You like to protect guys privacy and Then all of a sudden, he reaches over and he grabs the membership card and holds it right to the fricking camera. All the boys were Holland down the club. It was, it was great. The boys loved the tribute and also a little trivia too. Keith. The. The house. Yeah, the councilware it. It's Bunker hill council number 62. You know who the most famous member in our council is? He's no longer with us, but John Fitzgerald Kennedy, when he was a member of the Knights of Columbus, he was a member of the Bunker hill council number 62, same as myself and, and Mr. Future hall of Famer. So. And one last thing, Keith. You also said, I, I really, it struck with me was, you know, telling your boys, you, you love them because you get older and we, you know, death becomes part of life, unfortunately, and you lose some, some, some of your best homies. And I got a, you know, a good crew. Every time we, we, we, we leave each other, it's always I love you and stuff that guys maybe didn't do 15, 20 years ago. Definitely not our parents generation. So it, you know, it's pretty cool that you said that. And, you know, that's why you got to go out and have good times and go to, you know, Halloween parties with the boys. So hopefully have some parties this weekend. And by the way, I don't know if you know your Uncle Paul, he, he went as Muhammad Ali at my elf's birthday party, Color party back on Wooman, like 40 years ago. They still talk about it. I mean, he probably get canceled for it now, but he's Uncle Paul. He dressed up as Muhammad Ali.

[Biz]

Yeah. Or now on a podcast.

[RA]

Yeah. Well, they say about your Uncle Paul and my father, they went to a party in 1980 and come back in 1984. So that pretty much sums up Uncle Paul.

[Whit]

He used to say that Spirit would end up paying him to fly down. Where was he going?

[Keith]

To Myrtle.

[Whit]

Myrtle. He's like, they ended up paying me 8 cents one time. That's how good the deal was.

[RA]

Kiki, you wouldn't believe it. I got paid eight quarters. Absolute legend. But. So, yeah, let's jump into the Halloween.

[Biz]

Stuff before we get there. It reminded me when you the also the Internet Invitational. I don't know if you got a chance to watch that, but we forgot to mention off the Hop. Obviously some devastating news for, for the company and, and everyone who knew Beef, but he got to take the first shot, which was very poetic of the entire Internet Invitational the way that things work out. And yeah, it was it was a pretty tough week for bar school, but it's just some, some beautiful words for, for a very special man. Whether it was the Foreplay podcast, which that was the hardest thing that they've ever had to do since establishing their brand, and, and, and many other amazing words across the company. Did you guys talk about it on the unnamed show today? Whit?

[Whit]

Yes. Yes.

[Biz]

Yeah. So pretty cool. And I think that if, even if you're not a golf fan, like, and just go watch that and you'll know exactly why people feel the way that they did about Beef and how special of a human he was. So I just wanted to mention that as well.

[RA]

And I like, like you said, Biz. You know, Bostil is a family. I mean, it's up dysfunctional family, but we, we do love each other. We all take care of each other. And unfortunately, I, I, I didn't have the pleasure of meeting Beef, but I've seen the videos. I saw the invitation. And he, he just, he just conveyed sort of that, that Midwest class and, you know, nice guy you always hear about. He always doffed his cap when he was meeting people. And, and I, you know, I reached out to the Foreplay guys to convey my condolences and sympathies and, and of course I, I do the same to, to Beef's family and friends because it was just an awful, sad tragedy and, you know, stuff, stuff we hate to see. So like, like you said, Keith, you know, tell your boys you love them all the time when you see him because you never know what it might be the last time. But now I gotta ask you, is that a Frankenstein mask? I do got a. I, I, I.

[Whit]

You got it figured.

[RA]

Okay.

[Biz]

Frankenstein. A love child should have.

[RA]

Then they took the bl after pill, but it didn't work. Holy. Sorry. Did I do that?

[Biz]

No, that's good.

[Keith]

That's good.

[Whit]

He's got a nice, nice mana flow now. And he's throwing up the chirps.

[Jay Rose Hill]

I love it.

[RA]

I got the confidence. Slow my Sal.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Unbelievable.

[RA]

No, obviously, Halloween. We'll talk about some, some Halloween movies. It's scary time of year. It's weird how like the, you know, Halloween movies and then all, all the gore. Like, you know, I'm dressed as a dead guy right now. But I was gonna give my list of the scariest movies I've ever seen. You guys feel free to chime in. Whatever. I'm getting number one. It's a tie between Halloween, the original, I mean, Michael Myers, that. It's just absolute classic. In Psycho, have you guys have. Had you guys seen Psycho, the original?

[Whit]

I don't watch horror movies.

[RA]

Okay, what about biz? You ever see the original Psycho?

[Biz]

Psycho with Jack Nicklaus?

[Whit]

I know that Daniel Day Lewis wasn't in it. Pumping oil Biz hasn't seen Fuck Up.

[RA]

No, it's. It's. It's an old one. It's Jamie Lee Curtis's mother, Janet Lee. She's just a famous scene. She gets killed in the shower. Oh.

[Biz]

At the hotel.

[RA]

At the hotel, yeah.

[Jay Rose Hill]

I've seen it.

[RA]

Yeah. I mean, it's. You know, what Hitchcock made. I believe it was 1960. It was crazy that he made a movie like that that, you know, people were horrified. It kind of changed, you know, horrible weeks forever. So I got a tie between Halloween and Psycho number two, probably the scariest movie ever, even if it's not number one, The Exorcist with Linda Blair. I know it's an old. But I'm an old fox. So I see these. You know, the girl who gets possessed.

[Whit]

By the devil turns around.

[RA]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She says some pretty rocket puke says some things that like this probably says in the bedroom, but he's having fun. But we won't repeat them on the podcast right now.

[Biz]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, she was. Yeah, she was giving a verbal lick.

[RA]

She was getting. She was getting out of business style.

[Biz]

Yeah, she was rocket puking like Jay Rose Hill with.

[RA]

Yeah, they know what they. And they used pea soup for the fake pictures, too. A little trivia fire there, Biz. Oh, yeah, a little bit. Next up, the. The Omen, the original one. Another one little kid. He's the. He's the child of the devil, and he gets adopted by this family, and they have no idea. All of a sudden, people just start dropping like flies around them. And the father kind of figures it out. Just a absolute, you know, horrible. Even the 70s still scares the shit out of me. Number four. I think this is the one you were just talking about. You mentioned Jack Nicholas the golf. I think he meant Jack Nicholson, the actor in the Shining. When you know him. His wife and his kid, they go to a hotel to babysit it for the winter. And Jack Nicholson proceeds to go absolutely crazy instead of writing his book. And it's just one of the best performances ever in any horror movie. Like, there's actually a cool video biz online of Nicholson getting psyched up because he has to, like, smash the door with the ax. And he's getting all, like, revved up. Like, it's almost like he's Getting ready for like a playoff game or something. You know, guys in the hallway beating each other up and, and the last one quickly.

[Whit]

Yeah, sorry. Sorry to interrupt. It is. Has a horror movie ever won like Oscar Best Picture?

[Keith]

It'd be the Shining, if any.

[RA]

The Shining, I don't think was nominated. I know, no. Horror's always kind of gotten, kind of gotten dissed by, by the Academy. I don't know if people are scared of it or if it goes to plays they don't want, but. Well, this year we might have, we might have a hard nominee, which I'm going to get to in a little bit.

[Keith]

Sorry.

[RA]

Too.

[Keith]

Was he, was, was he a big time actor before he did that movie Nicholson?

[RA]

Yeah. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, he was.

[Keith]

He was already established. Okay.

[Whit]

Yeah, he was a hilarious tweet of Jack Nicholson. He won an award at an award show and he was so smothered he couldn't accept it. And he called up Robin Williams and he did his speech for him.

[Biz]

That's why he. Robin Williams is up there? Yeah. Oh, I never.

[Keith]

Well, that's incredible.

[RA]

You mentioned that. What he. I mean, yeah, back to Keith, he was a well established star. I mean, Chinatown was, was a huge hit and he won best actor for that. And when he won, he was filming One Floor of the Cuckoo's Nest, which is the movie that really put him into the stratosphere. And he accepted the award on the set of one full of the Cuckoo's Nest with all the lunatic like co stars around him. It's, it's a classic Oscar clip. And the last one.

[Whit]

Yeah, yeah, fishy says right here Silence of the Lambs won best picture in 91. I don't consider that a horror horror movie though. It's like a, it's like a scary.

[RA]

Thriller, but not psychological thriller. I, I agree with you. I mean you could put in the horror section at a video store, but I think, yeah, it's more of a psychological thriller. But you know, good call by Fishy though. And, and this list, you know, if you ask me the week, it'll probably change, but I got one fight a lot of you probably haven't heard of. Nah, it's called Train to Busan. It's a, it's a Korean zombie movie and I was out on zombie movies like years ago and I put this on and it's, you know, obviously subtitle. It's one of the best zombie movies you ever see. It actually has like a lot of hot to it. I know that sounds kind of weird for me. For a zombie flick. But definitely check those out a couple more. If you're looking for something to watch over the weekend, America will for London. A classic Shaun of the Dead. It's kind of a horror comedy. The Sixth Sense is another one, of course. You know, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm street, all that stuff. But here's a crazy thing with Nightmare on Elm Street. You've seen it probably back in the day. Freddy Krueger, you know, he invades the dreams of these high school kids. You know, that was actually inspired by an actual events. The Nightmare on Elm Street. This is kind of crazy. Wes Craven who directed it, he said he read an article in the LA Times about a family who escaped the killing fields in Cambodia. Managed to get to the U.S. things were fine, but the youngest son was asleep. Every time he went to sleep, he was having disturbed nightmares. He would stare for days at a time. He said, if I go to sleep, this thing would get me if I go to sleep. Finally he fell asleep. The parents heard him screaming. They walk in the room in the middle of the night. He was dead. He died in the middle of a nightmare. He was just having this vision, this horror thing. And that's where Wes Craven got the idea for it. And the thing he described, that wasn't an isolated incident. It wasn't one person. Dozens of Southeast Asian refugees in America died for unknown reasons in their sleep during the 1980s. The mysterious deaths were usually among young men in their 20s and 30s from the Hmong ethnic group, which you probably know from the Clint Eastwood movie Gran Torino. His neighbors in that movie. It affected a large enough segment of this population to alarm public health experts. So this crazy illness, these are the.

[Biz]

Types of fun facts we need from the rear man.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Shit.

[RA]

Yeah, like you to want watch.

[Whit]

Definitely not watching it now.

[RA]

Yeah, yeah, really, you watch. You know, Freddie Crow, of course that, that's fake. But then, yeah, it was based on like actual events that Wes Craven thought of.

[Biz]

All right, I hate to do this. I have to get going because we have a broadcast tonight. We got Dallas against the Tampa Bay Lightning. Incredible. RAS world. I know I'm sure you guys will talk for a few more minutes here, but love the outfits, boys. And I love you.

[Whit]

Great seeing you, buddy.

[Biz]

I love you guys.

[Whit]

Love you, dude. I love you too, bro.

[Jay Rose Hill]

There's my Ray Bra.

[RA]

See you biz. Yeah, I was gonna find. Well, this one was actually the biz. What a little trivia. This is more well known. It's a little more fun. You know the Michael Myers mask actually has like, roots in Canada. Do you know the origin of this story?

[Whit]

So guessing it was like a goalie type mask, right?

[RA]

Nope, it was a William Shatner Star Trek mask. And they've got it and they cut the eyes out bigger and they painted it white.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Right.

[RA]

So the Michael Myers mask, that's actually William Shatner from a Star Trek mask. That's really. Yeah. And they ordered a shitload of them from the company that made them. So, like, you know, they had to use them throughout the movie. So, yeah, they cut out the eyes, made it bigger and painted it white. So that's actually William Shatner that you're looking at in Halloween. Pretty crazy stuff. Well, I was gonna ask the boys. I mean, I don't know how long the last time you saw any horror movies was, but what. Which horror movie definitely be the worst way to go. I was dying for business, but I know he had to run.

[Keith]

The one that creeps me out the most is that Final Destination movie, like, where it, Remember those, like, they saw their deaths before it happened and that would be a tough way.

[Whit]

And they'd get out and then they'd all get got somehow. Yeah, yeah, I've seen.

[Keith]

It's like they were swimming in the pool and then like the suction thing would grab them. It was up or so that, that would be a tough one to go. Scariest movie for me is the Hills have Eyes. You ever see that? Ra.

[RA]

Oh, yeah, the original with that. I hate that. With the dude from the Motley Crue video with note with no here. The crazy dude. Yeah, that's that. They redid that one, I think, a few years ago, but redo suck. What about you, Whit? What's your, what's your favorite? Go to horror.

[Whit]

I really haven't seen like any horror movies, so I don't know.

[RA]

Fuck.

[Whit]

I, I, I, I know this is kind of disappointing. I can't think of one off the top of my head. I, I mean, if we want to go silent to the lambs, it's probably Buffalo Bill having you in the hole in his basement.

[Keith]

Oh, yeah.

[RA]

Put the fuck of ocean is a basket. That would be absolutely. Yeah, I mean, that, that's why it feels like a horror movie. But yeah. Yeah, I mean, at least she did escape. My. Mine is actually from. It's, I guess you'd call it a western horror. It's called Bone Tomahawk. Kurt Russell's in it. It's a insane movie. I'm not sure it's. I'm sure it's streaming the usual spots. Right now, it's. It's a woman gets kidnapped from. From a. Like a local, you know, Western jail. It's set like the 1800s. And they go on to try to find it. And there's this, like, you know, native tribe, but there they. They take things to the next level and. And there's a gruesome death. They. They stand the guy upside down and basically just split him right down the middle. It's like, probably one of the most gruesome scenes I've ever seen, but terrific movie if you're looking for, like, a western slash.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Hard.

[RA]

Not too many of those out there, so. Oh, speaking of, you know, movies, actually.

[Whit]

Probably, I think right now of the movie, I think. Is it A Silent Place? Oh, yeah.

[RA]

With what's his name from the office?

[Whit]

Yes. Yeah, I don't know if it's called the Silent Place. It might be a different name. But like. Like, if. If there ends up being zombie monsters out there at any point in this world, like, I'm probably taking my own. Yeah. Like, I'm not. I'm not going down at the hands of, like, a zombie monster.

[RA]

Yeah, it is interesting, those zombie movies. Like, whether you're gonna, you know, like, your will to live, does that exceed you? Like, okay, I don't want to get eaten to death by these goddamn things. All right, boys, I'm gonna start a new feature here. I'm gonna do it every week. You know, I'm the old school guy. I love old movies, old TV shows. And we're gonna do. I'm gonna do a classic recommendation. It'll be a weekly segment. It could be a TV show.

[Whit]

I like this.

[RA]

All right, thank you. It could be a movie from back in the day, but it's. It's gonna be. It's just isn't like, willy nilly. So I could check a box off. This is like a movie or a show that means a lot to me. And I'll tell you, like, one thing I love to do is shield what I. What I watch, what I really like. And when people come back to me and say they loved it, man, it just. It gives you a good feeling, you know, you like to spread the love about something that exact tag. He. It was kind of funny.

[Jay Rose Hill]

He.

[RA]

He kind of gave me the most accidental PR ahead of time last week. Yeah. You know, when we were first started becoming palsy. Reach out for recommendations all the time, and I. Yeah, yeah, thanks. Thanks, Coop, for that blast. So I'm gonna kick it off with. It's probably the biggest cliche to kick off a recommendation with this, but it's the perfect movie to do so. And it's Casablanca, okay? It's a 1942 romantic World War II drama that was actually filmed and released during World War II. Stars Humphrey Bogart, Ingrid Berman. It's often regarded one of the finest American films ever. It's known for the timeless quotes, you know, play it, Sam. Of all the gin joints in all the towns and all the world. I'm shocked.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Shocked.

[RA]

Gambling's going on. I know they like memes and stuff, but listen, this movie is. It's an all timer. It definitely gets five warthogs on my skill. One to five warthogs. It's on hbo. You can stream it. Listen, put your phone down, take a minute, an hour, 42 minutes out of your life walking and watch Casablanca with your girlfriends by yourself, with whoever. It's legit. A fantastic movie. It's funny. It still holds up. And I can't recommend that enough. G. Mr. Bacon, what you got for us? Yeah, I just want to ask RA like, like for the younger generation, like, my people like these black and white old movies. I just can't do it. Like, I can't do it. So what is your message?

[Keith]

It's a classic. It's one of those movies you have to see.

[RA]

Like, how come? How? Like, how. What is it that, like, is it just a mental block? Like, oh, this is old and I don't want to see it. Is it? I mean.

[Whit]

You'Ve never watched It's a Wonderful Life at Christmas, the wizard of Oz?

[RA]

Well, I've watched parts of it. I've watched parts of it. But like, I halfway way through, I'm just like, this is so boring. This sucks. I want to be into it, boys. I want to. Dude, that's why I said, you know, sit down, lock in, put you, you know, and I know we all do this. Like we all put on and play with these. Well, put that down, lock it and just, just watch it. Just like, make yourself watch it, man. It's such a classic, well made film. The script is unbelievable. It's funny, it's. It's romantic. Like, your girl will like it if she watches you. It's just one of the, like, legit, best movies ever. So I promise you, if you watch it, you won't regret spending the time with it. So Casablanca is my first classic recommendation. Give it a whirl again. It's on hbo and I'm curious to see what people who do watch it have to say about it. So moving over to the NHL, there's a cool little story I saw. There was a rec league goalie at Chelsea Piers, you know, on the Hudson river in Manhattan. A lot of teams practiced. They were in the town if MSG is booked. So last November, the shocks were practicing with Ryan Westerofski and. And they invited a 65 year old rec league goalie, Harold Robinson to come in and take some shots at the San Jose practice. You know, this guy, he's. He fighting around the Shannon Locker. We come on out, see some shots. The guy loved it. It was a pretty big memory farm. So San Jose was at MSG again last week. They had a nice little reunion with how they had a shared farm. They signed it and stuff and I just thought it was just, you know, one of those like cool things. Why we love hockey, man, you know this.

[Whit]

Oh, make a guy's dream come true. That's.

[RA]

Yeah.

[Keith]

And it got them their first win too. That's good.

[RA]

Yeah, yeah, exactly, man. It's just a cool story. Like I said, this guy's 65, he's at Chelsea Pass all the time as a goalie. Just loves to get in, get the sweat. And it was cool that he met up, but then again, you know, they signed all his shirts. But another thing too, with the shocks were in town, they went and saw the Book of Mormon and I guess.

[Keith]

Unbelievable.

[RA]

Revo's the ringleader for these Broadway shows. Now you've seen a few shows, Keith, right?

[Keith]

If I'm not mistaken, I've seen them all. Yeah. Book of Mormons, my top three. It's unbelievable.

[RA]

Yeah. And they. Well, I've read two different articles. I DM Revo, but I didn't have back. One story said he started seven times, the other said 17 times. But either way, shout out to Revo for bringing these boys and getting some culture. I mean, we don't go down New York like we used to wit, but every time we went down, if I had a free afternoon or a night, I'd love to go. I always went to a show. You go to the tickets thing, get half off and, and see a Broadway show, it's really, you know, even if you didn't grow up with it or you think whatever had thoughts when you were in high school, whatever. It's incredible to see the skill, especially if it's a musical. The choreography, the athleticism, just everybody in cohesion. It's all these moving parts. It's. It's impressive as hell to go to a Broadway show.

[Whit]

Shout Out Revo before Cal was born, we did like, a little baby moon to New York City, and we went to an Enemy of the People, which was starring Jeremy Strong, the guy from Succession.

[RA]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Whit]

And it was. It was incredible. It was my first real Broadway show. Well, I had fallen asleep at one because I had taken muscle relaxers because I hurt my neck at Book of Mormon. So I didn't really count that. I was front row too. So it was absolutely embarrassing scene. My wife was furious. So we went back. Enemy of the People. I don't even know if it's still on Broadway, but it was really cool. And it was like, you're right. Like to see how they're doing it and how intense they are within the show, it's. I really enjoyed it.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Yeah.

[RA]

Good stuff. So if you're in New York and like I said, there's that booth that's tickets. It's called Right at Times Square. And, you know, matineesia. Get half off. You know, get some nice tickets. Go see a good show. So. So, yeah, shout out to Revo. Forget those boys. Cultured.

[Keith]

I. I just went to Hamilton a couple weeks ago. They did the. A couple of the people from the original cast were back and took. Took the kids and. And the wife. It was unbelievable.

[Jay Rose Hill]

And.

[Keith]

And they wrapped the entire time. Like, I don't understand how they can remember it. The choreography with dancing. They're also moving the stage around. Like, there's so much going on. Like, you get. It's almost like us with like. Like singers and like, you just have such a different, like, perspective. But yeah, it's like, it's unbelievable that they can do that.

[RA]

And you know, you see one show and you're like, holy. Like, they must be exhausted. Blah, blah, blah. And then, oh, wake up. Next day, boom, do it again. I mean, these are doing. They're doing six, seven, eight shows a week sometimes. Yeah. Bat. It's absolutely crazy. So, yeah, again, h. Hats off to the. To the Broadway crew. And again, Revo for. For taking those boys out. Moving along to my. My picks last week, a small profit. If you did tell me. I had Tampa Bay in regulation only on Saturday, but I gave half of that back on the puck line. I did say San Jose if they lost at MSG Thursday to bet them Friday, but they did win at msg, so there was no action there. So small profit on the hockey. But this week, tonight, Friday, I like Anaheim at home. I just mentioned, I think they're a playoff team. Minus 135 vs Detroit who's been playing well. And they're probably going to start John Gibson. That could be a little revenge factor there. But I like Anaheim. I think they're gonna have a nice boost after that nice road trip they had. So we're gonna take the Ducks minus 135 and we're gonna take half that wager. Say we'll say you put 500 and I put 250 on the Ducks minus one and a half plus 185.

[Whit]

Most people are putting 500 on the.

[RA]

Game, but I'm just a sample number. That's all. Yeah, half. Your half your. Your moneyline wager on the. On the puck line. And we don't have lines for Saturday yet, but we're going to be jumping on Dallas. They're going to be at Florida. Florida. Dallas again. I think they're playing well. Florida missing a couple guys obviously, so I don't know the line, but it shouldn't be too high if Dallas is on the road. So Dallas on Saturday over Florida and the NFL Last week I should just put it on Buffalo. I said they were going to roll. They smoked Carolina easily and had the Giants vs. Philly in a small moneyline play. So lost a couple bucks there. But overall, you know, like I said, a small profit on the week. But this weekend, Carolina, they got getting 13 and a half at green Bay. Somehow the Panthers are still in the playoff chase of the nfc. That's a lot of points. I would buy it up to 14 or 14 and a half if you can and throw say 20% of your play on the money line of plus 700. I think Carolina is going to give them a game. And finally Cincy is at home versus Chicago getting three points. I think. What's his. What's his name? Oh, God. Flacco. I think Joe Flacco has rejuvenated this team. The Bengals aren't dead either. They need this win to keep hope alive. So take the it three points if you want. Buy it up to three and a half and also throw a moneyline play on it for 20% of your original play at 130. So Carolina, I like the over in.

[Keith]

That game since he's D's a nightmare.

[RA]

Yeah, Chicago's been giving up a lot of points. So. Gee, what do we got, buddy? I was going to say before we.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Wrap the show, we do have the.

[RA]

Picture of Ra's movie character. We found it, so here it is. Not bad.

[Keith]

Shirt.

[Whit]

Shirt is incredible.

[Jay Rose Hill]

He did pretty good.

[Whit]

All right.

[Keith]

Oh, he did amazing. I just don't think anyone's gonna know it.

[RA]

Wow. Yeah, the blood. The wig was kind of covered some of the good blood up here, but. Yeah, yeah, the flannel, the blood, the.

[Keith]

Wig, the green coach kind of looks like the leaves too. Like you're. That's.

[RA]

I went full. I went full method here, Keith, for my Halloween costume.

[Jay Rose Hill]

So.

[RA]

No, I appreciate it, boys. You put a little effort into it. It's nice to hear the record.

[Whit]

All right. All right. We appreciate you coming back on solid RA's world number two.

[RA]

Yep.

[Whit]

That was a. That was a great show. Thank you to Jay Rose Hill. Thank you to RA. Yeah. Check out RA's picks this weekend. NHL, NFL. And one final thing, we do still want to promote the breast cancer awareness merch we have for 540.org that's the website and you can get [e-mail] so everyone, thank you.

[Jay Rose Hill]

I do have a little news on.

[RA]

That with October is breast cancer awareness Month. November is hockey fights cancer month. So we're running it back. We're keeping it on sale for November. There we go. We'll keep buying everyone out there, keep buying some merch and let's buy some ladies some more wigs. Awesome. Absolutely.

[Whit]

Everyone have an awesome weekend. Thank you so much for tuning in. Shout out the game notes, guys. Did a great show Wednesday. Have a great weekend. We love you all.

[Keith]

Love you.

[Whit]

Why'd I say y'?

[RA]

All.

[Whit]

Hey, guys.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Won't happen. Won't happen. Won't happen again.

[Whit]

A bad habit worth breaking but it's taking time.

[Biz]

I don't know it.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Don't let it. It's going to happen. It's going to happen again.

[Keith]

I'm not going back to college to be your friend.

[Jay Rose Hill]

I'm going so I can get Uber One for students.

[Biz]

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[Jay Rose Hill]

I'm there for zero dollar delivery fee on cheeseburgers, up to 10% off smoothies.

[Keith]

And 6% Uber credits back on rides.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Just to be clear, I'm there for savings, not whatever you think college is for. Get Uber one for students a members.

[Whit]

To save on Uber and Uber eats.

[Biz]

With deals this good.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Everyone wants to be a student.

[RA]

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[Whit]

Savings may vary.

[Jay Rose Hill]

Eligibility and member terms apply.