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Army
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Logan Cooley
Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is Barstool sports.
Biz
I brought it towards the coyotes and I asked them if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chicklets podcast full time.
Dan
Ryan, Whitney's got a Pink Whitney out there now.
Ryan Reaves
Sandbagger.
Dan
Get that on camera. The song man is a full time member. Marley just got from Chris.
Whitney
Whoa. We're buzzing right now.
Dan
Welcome, welcome, welcome to episode 593 of the Spit and Chickens podcast presented to you by Pink Whitney. Right there, trying to point to it. The big old bottle there. Keith breaks it out. And if you're in the Dallas area and you love Pink Whitney, you can see Biz Biz nasty biz nasty 2.0 in the flesh in Dallas this week. 4:30pm at the Happiest Hour, 2616 Olive St. Before the Stars and Ducks game. That is Thursday. Little pink Whitney meet and greet. Take your shot with Pink Whitney. Doesn't matter if you're in Dallas, Tennessee, Louisiana, maybe celebrating a World Series title. Pink Whitney is for anyone and everyone above the age of 21. Shout out, Pink Whitney. Shout out, New Amsterdam. Guys, what is going on, man? Biz, let me tell you something. I'm gonna let you take. Take this over. Gutted for you. Got it.
Whitney
For you.
Dan
In the country of Canada, one of the greatest, if not the greatest sporting events I ever watched, with twists and turns at every angle in the city of Toronto, comes out the big losers again. I. I can't. What do you. What do you just. What do you say, you know, I.
Biz
Mean.
Dan
I don't think he could say anything, Keith.
Whitney
No, he can't. He shouldn't.
Dan
He might have planned that. The Internet goes out right when this went down.
Whitney
Another thing he's mushed is the Internet in Toronto. There's no Internet now. The Leafs think the J.
Dan
Oh, business back. You're back, bud. You're back.
Biz
First of all, a hotel X great hotel and everything like that, but the Internet situation right now is an absolute joke. So am I good? Is it. Is it coming in clear again or good now?
Dan
Baby, you're good now.
Biz
If it up again, I'm gonna break my laptop over my knee because I've been going through enough in the last 48 hours, all right? I was going to try to keep it even keel, but now it's impossible because nothing's going right in this goddamn.
Dan
City and it never does and, and first you were @ the game. It was, I think it was 807 first pitch. I mean you were there around 6pm and I think you, you texted to us. I'm just taking it all in. Right. I imagine the atmosphere prior was just world class.
Biz
It was unreal and I just wanted to get there early because I'd never really been a part of a sporting event like that and it ended up beating boys like sporting event I've ever attended. It lived up to every bit of hype. I was a very casual baseball fan. Like I, I am a very casual baseball fan. When I was playing in the league and I went to those bio steel camps, we were fortunate enough where Matt Nickel and staff ended up hooking up with batting practice with the Jays. So I got to meet Brett Lowry. Aaron Sebia was, I believe he was a back catcher at the time. Ricky Romero was a pitcher for the Blue Jays. So I got to know them on a personal level level and I became more of a fan of the Jays. Well, you know they ended up taking off and they've had some down years and I've been in the state so I'm not even going to play it up like us a massive, massive baseball fan. But the fact that they were going on this run this season, I think they started out the season pretty rough, couldn't get any offense going. They had a moment in the season where all of a sudden things started clicking and then they ended up winning one of the toughest divisions in baseball, I would say battling payrolls of the Boston Red Sox, the, the New York Yankees and also after the fact of game seven, seeing all the wives from the team come out with like personal notes on social media about how, how special the group was and how like the wives, like everyone just felt like a family. I felt absolutely gutted for them in the fact that they had two opportunities at home to close the ball. Getting stuck in the wall, which you know, a lot of people are. I don't know how you guys feel about it. I think that there were so many key moments the Dodgers had to make in order to stay the champs and they didn't blink. And they. That guy who got subbed in in the center field who knew the rule and instead of touching that ball because if he touches that ball, it's in play.
Dan
But he, he should buddy that ball. Yeah, I guess you're right. He played it right. The rules messed up. Then he could have, he could have grabbed that ball. There would have been no friction. He takes it he throws it in. So he played it perfect rule.
Biz
So, so him having like, like being in the moment and understanding the rule and the other fielder who was running up behind him, like I think if he would have got there first, it looked like he was, would have grabbed it because I think he was almost shot you guys. But there had, there was a clip also of, of a, of it happening. I believe it was this year and this guys, this happens like maybe once a year. That, that situation right there, there was another one where the pad didn't go all the way to the ground where the ump ended up coming out to the outfield and he's like, oh, this is not lodged. He, he touched it with his foot and it rolled off of the wall that was obviously clearly lodged. Do I think he could have ran up to it, grabbed it and still played it? Absolutely. Do I think it was advantageous at the fact that it didn't come off the wall at all back to him. I think that, that if he would have played it, I would imagine one guy would have scored and the other guy would have ended up on third. But I just want to.
Whitney
It's a heads up play either way. A heads up play. Like that's very lucky for la if that. Very lucky.
Dan
That ball doesn't get large. I mean. Yeah, yeah, triple.
Biz
And I just, I, I just don't want it to get lost in the fact that like the, you could just even tell after the game it was so quiet outside. Like I never so many people downtown Toronto in it, you could hear a pin drop. I was proud of the way the hand, the fans handled it because obviously sometimes, I mean we saw what happened in Vancouver. Sometimes can things gonna really get off the rails. Like next thing you know you see a clip of me flipping a cop car. Like not ideal, right? Like yeah, let's do it.
Whitney
But first game in 30 years he flips a golf cart.
Biz
Yeah, yeah. But I was really just proud of the way that the players represented the city and the team and how much they competed and they, I feel like they honestly left it all out there. If you want to dive into to game seven and like maybe like the emotions of some of the things I was like, oh my God. Like no. The one standout for me was the base running was not great throughout the game for the Jays a couple times, but rightfully so because Boba Shet was obviously dealing with injury. But you're not taking him out of the game because he's good defensively and he was making unbelievable contact I mean, he had the three run dinger, right? And he, I believe he got on base at least once, if not two other times. So in the ninth when the game is tied, right? You're essentially at that point, you're an extras. They just, just tied it. It's four. Four. They get the, the lead off. All of a sudden they got runners on first and second and now is the time to pinch run him. So they pinch run him and they sub in the guy whose sole purpose is to come in the game and be unbelievable at running the bases. So then all of a sudden it's bases loaded, one out, going back to the game prior and how it ended. I get why they would maybe be a little hesitant to get too far off the bag where they don't all of a sudden want to hit into another double play to end it. But you just subbed in as a pinch runner, okay? You're, I'm assuming one, if not the fastest player on the team. I don't need you cheating. Maybe the same length as the third basement is off the bag, but at least split the difference. The minute that Varsho. Is that how you pronounce his name? Varsho? You guys can help me on the chat. The number five, the center fielder for the Jays, who unfortunately was 0 for 9 with 13 runners in scoring position in the last two games. That, that is, that's, that's a killer. But, but in that situation, he makes contact, he puts the ball in play. And if that pinch runner cheats halfway the distance, if he is two or three more feet, which for sure he should have been because that would have been half the difference that the third baseman was off the bag to the middle. Keep in mind, I'm not like I don't know anything about the analytics world, but that the number five, Varsho, the, the center fielder for the Jays had only grounded out like a couple times that way all season long. So he never hits it to the third base guy ever. So that the fact that he slid feet first and not hands, why didn't.
Dan
He go hand first?
Biz
I don't know. I felt like in that moment he was so lazadaisical. And another element to that is when he makes contact, he kind of jumps up a little bit and then by the time he finally gets down, then he's running. So he even killed more time by giving that little jump in the air. So that to me was, was the one where I was like, oh my God, that was their World Series to win. And now it's over. And I don't. I don't even know the guy's name who was the pinch runner. And I don't. I'm not like saying he's the reason they lost, but I just feel like that was such a small detail where even just reading things online, people were like, I played baseball at a very low level. And that is just like, that's 101. That is as easy. And are you guys on the same page as me? Do you think that that was probably the, the biggest glaring mistake that that game should have been over?
Dan
There was a million. In typical Toronto fashion. A million.
Biz
I know there was a million, but would you say that that was numero uno?
Dan
Honestly, yeah. But Hoffman throwing that slider, like in the. Like, the guy throws at 100 miles an hour. Rojas, the guy didn't have a hit for a month. A full month.
Biz
So also credit, credit the manager for the Dodgers. Is it Dave Roberts?
Dan
Yeah, he made some. And he put that.
Biz
So many ballsy decisions. The fact that he put him in for morale and also team defense in Game 6 and kept him in and did not pinch hit for him in that situation, given the fact that he was cold at the plate. But mind you, I don't even think they're in that situation if not for the defense that he had played in those two games. And did you hear the backstory of his wife telling him that? She's like, you're gonna hit a home run. Like, I, I have been sent this message from our Lord and Savior. You are going to find a way to get a dinger. And, and then for that gift across the plate. What were you saying when that went out of the park?
Dan
I screamed at the top of my lungs. I, I literally, I said, this city is something else. That's what I said after I screamed. I said, this city. And these poor Canadians all across your great nation, with Toronto being the city that they're in, these poor Edmontonians who are fooled watching the game on the big screen in the middle of the Blackhawks Oilers game. That, that, that runner scored. No, no, they're in Toronto. They didn't score. They lost. They lost again. And this fraking city, man. It's. I mean, I don't even.
Biz
Well, it's not even the city. It's the country, man. Like Edmonton's went to the country, stuck.
Dan
With the team in the city. The. The country's team is stuck in the biggest loser city in pro sports.
Biz
No, it's not.
Dan
What do you know?
Biz
It's not okay.
Dan
Cleveland Cleveland. Cleveland.
Biz
We won an NBA championship not too long ago. I don't know exactly what year it was.
Dan
Very true. And the Cavs won one with LeBron. It's Cleveland. It's Cleveland. It's a. It's a way nicer, more beautiful Cleveland. Sports wise, you're Cleveland and the Dodgers business stat blew me away. And only for a team in Toronto. They had the lowest batting average as a team to ever win the World Series. I think that's what it was. The Dodgers batted.203 in the world Series, the worst mark by a champion since 1966. It's like.
Whitney
So they tried to give it away.
Dan
They pretty much give it to them pretty much. And, and like the, the screenshot that's going around of four to four, bottom of the ninth, one out and the base is loaded and they lost the game. It's like. And. And then poor Kirk that, that catcher Kirk with the body of like a 1970s.
Biz
He gets. He gets carded every time he walks into the stadium. Even his own. No, I'm, I'm. They like, there's like, there's no way this guy's a person. Professional ball player. This guy's delivering something.
Dan
Player card.
Biz
Yeah.
Dan
But like, dude, just get it up in the air. And, And I mean, that Yamamoto, he's like the. One of the best pitchers I've ever seen. What he did in game six, what do you throw 90 pitches in game six, then he comes in in game seven. But the game overall was. It was truly like must watch edge of your seat baseball. And that's when baseball can be. We've. We've actually talked about like on this show many times about playoff baseball being right up there with playoff hockey. OT Playoff hockey. I think RA Brought it up too, last show or two shows ago. But that game was, was, was something even different. And the country trying to get a championship. 1993. And I thought. I really thought Vladdy was going yard. I really did. In the bottom of the ninth. I thought he was taking that thing moon ball. And Vladdy had talked about getting a ring for his dad. And like I wanted him, but God damn, is it entertaining. Blows it.
Biz
Yeah.
Whitney
Biz, I gotta put a little blame on the third base coach too. Like, I know like the guy dad said too.
Dan
What does he do?
Whitney
Like, there's no communication. Like all. Every clip and still shot that I've seen. Like the coach is just kind of sitting there. Like, Kirk could have scored from there if he, like, if he had a little bit more of a lead so.
Biz
You'Re going, you're obviously going back to the pinch runner. Not scoring in that situation.
Whitney
Yes.
Biz
I, I, I, that's the game. I, honestly, I just, I, I, I would love to get that guy on Chiclets and just say, what, what are you thinking in that moment? Your, your only job is, is to, to score. And, and it's like, I don't need you cheating off the bag that much. I just need you being half the distance that that third baseman is off the bag. And even if he, if he gets a line drive and catches it, he can still beat him back to the bag. Yeah, it will not be a double out. Do you, do you guys assume that it was more of a psychological thing because that had happened the game prior. It's almost like all the events leading up to this, like, it's all like, like the guy on the wall and that the Philadelphia show, like beautiful Toronto.
Dan
It's the city of Toronto. And, and I was talking about this with Big Dan. He was kind of saying, I, I like the games. It's moving so fast, dude. And the pressure and the adrenaline and it's like maybe the co, like every, you know what I mean? Everyone's mind's moving a million miles an hour and that coach is just kind of asleep at the wheel. Like, hey, take, take two more steps. Two more steps. When actuality he just needed a half a more step to win.
Biz
Yeah. And the other thing too, it's like, it's like the bases are loaded so there's no, not much thinking. Like you're going on contact.
Whitney
Going on.
Biz
You're going on contact. So they' There wasn't really any other variables, but like I want to draw it back. And, and I said this earlier, like when I originally like, like I started following the team and became passionate about them when I met the, the Brett Lowry, the, the rcb, Ricky Romero and the rest of the guys did batting practice. Like this series and this run has like made me like fall in love with baseball. Like that was an iconic series. Probably the best, best World Series ever. There's only been one other one that's gone to extra innings. There's only been 40 game sevens in, in, in major league history. So I mean you, you have to put it right there. And it, it's just I'm, I'm heartbroken for like, like Ernie Clement set the, the World Series or the, the playoff record. MLB for most hits. He hit 30. I think he had 30. He was tied at 29.
Dan
And they got another hit three or something. Or was it only 30?
Biz
That guy, I think he had 30 or 31 hits.
Army
Baller.
Biz
Yeah.
Ryan Reaves
He.
Biz
He wants to do a sandbagger with us. So obviously, the invite is. Is still very much on the table. Unfortunately, we're gonna have to hand him another L. But him. Him, Schneider. And then I think they're gonna get one other guy. But I appreciate everything that those guys did, coming together and. And elevating the city and. And representing. Representing it with class and the country, really. Right. They had the country rooting for them, and. And they did so with class and integrity. And it's just really unfortunate that they couldn't knock off the champ. And as soon as the game ended, it's like, you have to knock the guy said the announcer, he goes, you gotta knock out the champ to beat the champ.
Dan
That was a great call by that guy because I. I noticed that. I was like, wow. That was. You know, obviously they're thinking about what they're gonna say. They're planning it out. It's memorable to put your kind of stamp on the moment. That guy crushed that there. Yeah. Just sick to my stomach. I mean, the other thing. And we're gonna bring on Army. I think he's in Toronto with you. The Penguins guys. We'll get into them. What a story this is.
Biz
Here's another one I met. I. I shook dubious hand down. I went down and saw him by the Penguins.
Dan
Hey, Biz. Nice to meet you.
Biz
No, he. He gripped my hand. He pulled me in. He says, if you talk about the Ginsel trade one more time on that podcast, he goes, I'm gonna knock your jaw to the other side of your head. And then he bag tapped me and walked away.
Ryan Reaves
Okay.
Dan
Fair.
Whitney
So you're taking L's left and right.
Dan
And this is something, Keith, that, you know, we're a team here, and. And I don't. You know, I don't want to bring stuff up, but, like, there's some things you kind of have to address. Like, there was a lot of blame going around to you, Biz, for mushing that goddamn team. And I know you saw the tweets. I saw. I saw hundreds and hundreds of, like, this guy shows up for Toronto sports, and it's a guaranteed L. Not one.
Biz
Person said that to my face at the stadium. Not one.
Dan
Very Internet.
Biz
Like, it's very true Internet and idiots at home. First of all, I talked on the podcast saying, I'm not. Like, I'm not putting on the foam finger. I'm not going in there with the Blue Jays cap being like, I've been rooting for the team for years. I'm part of the booster club, bro. Put me in, coach. Put me in. Right.
Dan
Well, what Keith said, though, is true.
Biz
Like I said, I said I'm going there. I'm staying neutral. I'm rooting from a distance. I want them to do it for not only the city of Toronto, but for the country. I was rooting. And you know what? I was also rooting for baseball. These guys sent $1.2 billion to the mound, the LA Dodgers to the mound in the last game, in game seven. Okay, so mind you, I don't know how many of those dollars are in deferred money. I think that baseball needs to figure out some sort of cap situation.
Dan
Oh, here he goes. It's like the state tax.
Whitney
Just because your teams can't figure it out, don't blame everybody else.
Biz
I'm not. I'm saying that I have. So Alan Walsh might send out a hitman to get me here. I think there's a sweet spot between teams like the Dodgers and the Yankees and even the Jays in some. Jay's got money, too. I believe that the Jays are like, like fifth to tenth in payroll in the, in the mlb, too. So you can't just blame it on that. But when you're deferring that much money and you're sending $1.2 billion to the mound in game seven, it's, it is, it is tough to not argue the fact that for the sake of the game, like, make the Pittsburgh Pirates spend money, make them hit a certain floor.
Dan
Well, and I, I, well, I heard.
Whitney
Logan Cooley's going to buy them. Who's coming on later from Pittsburgh?
Dan
Yeah, local kid buys the Pirates. You're right. I, I mean, biz, I'm, I'm with you a little bit. I, like, I, if the season gets canceled over, it, it's a complete joke. Not next year's baseball season, the season after. There's a lot of noise that that thing could be done completely. And, and as I made it clear in July, like, all right, I think I watched the last 67 Red Sox games. Like, I love baseball. It take taking me back to my youth, back to my early late teens now, even hockey, where the cap's going, right, there's going to be teams that aren't spending to the cap. So I think baseball could work because it's not going to force teams to spend. I mean, it might force them to get to the floor. Floor, but teams will still be Able to be like huge spenders when other teams won't unless Cooley buys them and just goes completely all in and just spends to the cap. But baseball, I'm with you biz there probably needs some sort of market reset here.
Biz
Just there has to be a, a top line even if it's extremely high. Like I just. They also need to crack down, I'm assuming on the deferred money. Because the rich teams will always, always find the loophole in order to get the best players and pay them the most money. So they just might need to minimize that. Here's another thing. I think it's also crazy that you have these certain guys who are making 50, 55 million, yet these players that are on these entry level deals are locked into their entry levels for five years. So I view that as a problem. Like these players should put their foot down where I. Is it you? Savage? Is that how you say his last name? I think he's making like 100 grand this year and he's under contract for another four years making peanuts. The guy was living out of his truck during this playoff run. I think the team was even having to move out of the hotel when they were on the road so you.
Whitney
Could get a room.
Biz
So shout out to Rogers and a.
Dan
Ticket to the game.
Biz
No, I, I do have one of.
Dan
The guys wives tickets.
Whitney
That's why they lost.
Biz
But no, Rogers put me in a, in a, in a box. And we were actually right next to Magic Johnson, their management and then Tony Robbins was right next to us, the guy who does all the motivational. So. And then we were in the box with all the Raptors as well. So I met that, that Dick guy. Like Big Grady Dick. Yeah, I met him. I think it's. Is it Scott Barnes or Stu Barnes?
Dan
That stupid.
Biz
Okay, they got a Barnes guy who plays for the Raptors. I'm brutal with the names and other sports, but I mean baseball is definitely a very interesting game. And I'll always go back to. They're very traditionalist. 162 regular season games, don't give a flying wish. They would just minimize that and make more of playoff baseball because that is it. Playoff baseball is neck and neck with playoff hockey.
Dan
In my mind, an incredible series. God, so sorry for Canada.
Biz
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Dan
But the city of Toronto has let your entire country down. You know, numerous, numerous, numerous.
Biz
But, but, but I, but I. Listen, we didn't win, buddy. But like I'm telling you, is, is people here are proud of the way that that group came together and 100 young and. And you know what? I'll say the same thing to Vladi. I hope they bring back Bichette where they can work out his contract. Clement, Schneider, all these foundational pieces. Like, boys, this is just the beginning.
Dan
Like I would say, it's gonna be very, very difficult to get back.
Biz
Like it always is.
Dan
100. But, like, that could have been a moment where, you know, 25 years from now, it's like, we had that, you know, and we haven't sniffed it since.
Army
Yeah.
Biz
And I know that you're always going to be negative, and you're playing.
Dan
No, no. I mean, they're in a tough division.
Whitney
They're in a.
Army
Really.
Biz
You're playing the antagonist. Excuse me, but no, I'm not.
Dan
B. I'm being honest with you. I know what you're saying, and I get that the country is so proud of them, and they should be. They should be. It's just that city is. That city has a stench on it like no other, like a disgusting old egg fart. That's Toronto.
Biz
But I'm. I'm going to say this to the people calling me the new Drake Curse, blah, blah, blah. You shouldn't have gone to game seven. I will never in my life ever apologize for rooting for my country. I showed up to support my country in that instance. I will never apologize for rooting for the Maple Leafs. I will wear the Maple Leaf proud. I will wear this poppy proud as well. It's Remembrance Day coming up on the 11th, so make sure to get your poppies in Canada and. And represent and. And show respect to those who served our country to make it the wonderful place that it is and the freedoms that we get to enjoy living in it. I love Canada. And as disappointing as this was, the boys at the Olympics, they're going to make us proud, and that's when we're going to have our glory. And I'm going to be laughing at.
Dan
You, proud guy that loves Canada. The only question is, does Canada love you back? And I love the answer to that right now.
Biz
I. I saw Sid. I saw Sid down below after I saw Dubas. He stopped and came and talked to me, and he says, hey, buddy, sorry about the loss. He goes, but, hey, in Italy, I got you. He gave me. He gave me the Mario wink, okay? The Mario wink. And he says, I know he didn't. I know when you're 18, at training camp, he didn't want to grab lunch with you, but he says when you're back in town, he says, he'd love to. That's what he said to me. And then I saw Stutzy down there. He's still banging on the glass. Latang Letang. He hasn't aged a day, that guy. He looks, he's got the hair.
Dan
You're saying butt chugging from the fountain of youth. Correct.
Biz
Butt chugging from the fountain. Saw Carlson. I said, I said, eric Carlson. I said, you're playing great. He goes, yeah, I'm playing defense this year. You should. You most certainly are. I said, olympic year. He goes, yeah, maybe I'll play defense another four years from now too.
Dan
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Biz
I can't lose.
Dan
You got the key to the city. That's a win win for you, you'll find.
Biz
Maybe I should go finally get a W. Jesus lose open again.
Dan
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Biz
What was, what was Yan's gonna say right before that, though?
Whitney
I was just gonna say we should put a poll up in the chat and ask fans who they would rather have on their bandwagon, you or Drake. I just, I. I would like to know for personal research.
Biz
One quick thing, army, before we, we get you going here is I got to spend that game too with Corey Connors. The golfer was in that box too. So we were hanging out, me, him and his buddy and Canadian royalty. Canadian royalty buddy. So he was a great dude. Great spending time with him and obviously we'll have to golf with him at a certain point, but. Arm Dog, enough about the Jays. I know that you're probably disappointed. You're you, you love the Jays, but your Penguins are rolling. At least somebody's winning around here.
Army
It was cool to be in the city, man. I was walking around, you were at the game. And we landed after the Winnipeg game that night, boys. And so we're like scrambling now to get to somewhere to maybe watch this game when we landed and there's like, man, there's like people on the street, like, you know, old timey, old timey movies that you see. People gathered around the outside of a window, watching through a tv. Watching through the window, watching the tv. That's what it was like. People were doing that all over the street. It was kind of crazy to see the scenes. And then we were at a place watching it and like as soon as that ending happened, like Dodgers win. Like I thought the town, because it was, it was a Saturday night. I thought the town, it's Toronto, like it would still kind of like the plate place.
Dan
Well, they're so used to losing, you think like, hey, quote, now we lost again.
Army
No one was out. It was like a ghost town. Just a bunch of crackheads on the street laying around everywhere. But that was it like I. I thought old he was out front doing. Doing hits on everyone's social medias. That guy's a legend. But I thought it was like they were so depressed after that. And I feel like the town is tired now a little bit. And the Leaf season hasn't really started yet until tonight.
Biz
Well, the leaf, which is by the way, which is awesome.
Dan
Like, they're lucky. They're lucky. These.
Biz
Well, they're lucky because of the game in Columbus. Then they went to Philly and they smoked Philly. We'll get. I mean we'll get to the Leafs in a bit, but kind of a perfect game now to set the table. It's like they're always 500 after about 12 to 15 games to start the year, the Leafs now all of a sudden all the focus is on them. They got Amazon Prime Monday night hockey tonight, and Sidney Crosby's in town. And the Penguins army for the first time in quite some time are extremely relevant and people think that there is a possibility that they could actually make playoffs.
Whitney
Yes. Who else is in town too?
Biz
Kevin Hayes, who I saw, who is busy boy.
Whitney
Which means Pittsburgh's gonna wax Toronto.
Dan
So all you betters out there.
Army
Oh, boys for the pension at the rink this morning. It was awesome. He has cowboy boots on. He's got his leaf ambassador coat. And I'm like, oh, I thought he.
Whitney
Would have had baseball cleats on.
Army
He's got memes.
Dan
These boots he stole.
Army
Memes.
Biz
His boots memes. He's got me on my. My cowboy tech.
Dan
There's got to be a group chat of. Of Leafs alumni that are like, why the does this?
Biz
Oh, they hate my guts.
Dan
Never played for us.
Biz
No.
Army
The best thing ever though was seeing visit the rink this morning in Toronto, like with his jacket on. He wheels in with his. To Keith's point with his jacket on for the team he never played for. While the team that's there is the team that he.
Biz
Well, they ruined their.
Dan
I texted. I texted hazy.
Whitney
I. It was too late. I go, I go tell everyone not to even look at biz. No one talks.
Biz
What do you mean? They were dabbing me up like I was Mario himself.
Dan
Yeah, because they're so thankful you're in town.
Whitney
They got a guaranteed they're staying the night.
Biz
Yeah, they. They were talking to me like I own the team, like I'm signing the checks.
Army
How'd you like working the pre game skate? How'd you like being in there? It's different than being in the studio. You know, you're like in the action, you're down low, you're talking to Berube, you're talking to Dubas, you're talking to the coaches. You got the whole private time.
Biz
Did I tell you what Dubas did?
Army
No.
Biz
He shook my hand, he squeezed it, and he pulled me in, and he says, if you talk about the Gensel trade one more time on your podcast, I'm gonna make that potato nose even bigger. Now get the out of my face. And then he bag tapped me and walk away.
Dan
I was like, hey, three years ago.
Whitney
You would have came.
Biz
I. I was like, you better be careful with that hand. I got. I got the gag.
Dan
Now I'll go all night with you, Kyle. He's like, oh, my God, this didn't even work.
Biz
So it was cool, though, because I. It was. First of all, to answer your question, it's awesome because you feel the energy. Secondly, you forget how much the game is advancing and how big and fast these guys are and how much they can snap it around. Like, the talent level is through the roof. And I was fortunate enough, when I was down below where I came in, it just timed out. Timed where? All the Pittsburgh guys had just gotten there on the bus, so I got to see Eric Carlson. I got to see Gino, who. Who randomly, he's like, oh. He goes, you need to introduce me to Wayne Gretzky. I've never met Wayne Gretzky. I would have assumed he would have never. That's what he said. Obviously. Got to talk to sit a little bit. So, just getting to see the guys and. And seeing kind of the aura around the Penguins with the new coaching staff and the energy, it seemed like there's, like, you know, there's. There's a nice youth movement there at the perfect time.
Dan
The question is, is it real?
Army
Like, I don't know. Like, I'll tell you this, going into every game, I'm kind of like, what's gonna happen? I'm kind of have that feeling. I don't know what's gonna happen. And I'll say from my position with Josh, gets off my partner calling the games and, you know, covering this team. It's been exciting. It's been, like, wildly exciting to games, which is, like, so different. Like, you know, it's back and forth hockey, they're getting great goaltending. You know, they're. They're scoring a bunch of goals. Like, they're outscoring their problems. They're getting saves above expected, whatever that stat is. And, like, they're entertaining as hell to watch right now. Plus they have like, you know, four, four rookies in the lineup with. She loves Kindle, Brunic, this coyban and up from the minors as well right now. And so we haven't had that in a long time here in Pittsburgh either with like some youth coming in here. So it's, it's been pretty entertaining. A great start to the season. Eight, three and two, you know, they're rolling pretty good. The power plays second in the league. They're getting goaltending and they're flipping. She loves Jari. She loves Jari. Like they each have a shutout and the next game the other guy started. They're not just riding the guy, which I think has been kind of good and to the point that, you know, biz. I heard you talking about the coaching staff and the guys you got to see here, they have like Dan Muse, like great guy, humble, good, hard working dude, very serious, but easy to deal with and talk to. Like just totally different.
Dan
And he's grinding to get where he's at.
Army
Like people like him, people love him. Like, I think the guys like him, I think he gets to their level. You know what I mean? He's not this massive figure. He's trying to, you know, find his own way and do his own thing.
Biz
But I was talking to the PR people and even they were like, oh, he goes, everybody's amazing. Like the whole new coaches, not to say the people that weren't there is just when you get turnover, you never know what you're going to get. But they just said it's been like so enjoyable. The energy is, is just, it's, it's, it's like that's vital, man. It's very important to a team.
Army
It's easy when it's going good. Yes. But at the same time, like a great mix like Stuy and Todd Nelson, like grizzled veteran guys that keep it loose and fun. Then you got Bonino and Rich Clune who are younger, newer guys too that are eager to be involved and work hard. And so they've got a great mix and a great energy and it started in camp. You know, it's. Dan Muse is driving the ship. I'm surprised. He still has a voice. He's highly involved but has an awesome. They all have so far, a great energy and things are going good right now. They're off to, you know, a really good start. Like 10. It's been 10 years since I had a start like this, you know, so it's, it's been pretty fun. And entertaining to cover. Like, the games have been good. Now, they did get waxed the other night by Winnipeg, who is like, why.
Dan
Was Sid walking down the tunnel, baseball, batting his stick, throwing his helmet, setting the tone, man.
Biz
He's not going to accept losses like that.
Dan
I know. I just missed what had happened right prior to that.
Army
I don't know, because that's down the tunnel in Winnipeg. That's not. Was that during that game? I think it might have been the Philly game when he got punted out of the game at the end. That might be like an old video game.
Dan
Maybe he got kicked out of the.
Army
Shootout for that brawl they had in the battle of Pennsylvania. It might have been that. So he's probably steamy hot. You know, Sid, he gets her going. How about Sid tied second in the league in goals, like nine goals. How about Gino?
Whitney
13 games.
Army
Geno's two points off, like, leading the league in points.
Biz
Have you had a chance to talk with Gino and like, did, like, knowing it's his last year? Did he say, I went all in on train this summer because he just, like, really wanted to leave his mark on this organization. Like, what was the.
Army
What.
Biz
What was his mentality coming in?
Army
He said that openly. He said that openly. Like, he just wants to play. He wants to win. Like, he wants. Like, he's always been, like, he's always been happy to. To ride shotgun with Sid and just win. And to have a guy like that with that superpower, like, super stardom is amazing that they've had that relationship for so long where it's worked out like that. And I think going into this year, yeah, it's. It's 39 years old. Like, he knows. He knows, but he says he feels good and he's going. I just saw him in the elevator a bit ago, and when we got back to the hotel and I was like, hey, five grand for that chop on stand. Oh, hey, I don't. I'm like, I don't mind. I said, like, I don't mind that he was cross checking the out of Gino. And then, you know, Gino, he just snaps. But he made it count. He made it count. The wires. Yeah.
Biz
Gino is one. Like, I mean, I feel like all Russians, they have this. You push them to a certain brink and then it's like, oh, you're on your own now, buddy.
Army
Gino's another specimen, though. Like, he. You poke him and he gets angry. He can go to another level.
Dan
And he's always been a dirty player, too. And that's like a compliment.
Whitney
Like, he is.
Army
I love him. I love dirty gets squirrely. I love it when he gets kind of crazy and like, everyone's like, oh, Gino sometimes takes bad penalties. I'm like, you think? I kind of love that about him. I kind of love that he lives on that edge and he's just like, superstar. But he is flying right now, boys. He is buzzing. He's. I don't think Brazo is going tonight, but him and Manta on that second line, I call them the mutant line. They've been together since camp started and through preseason, and they've found something. Brazzo has been good too, so too bad they're missing him. But, yeah, everything seeming seemingly to be. Seems to be working out. It's. It's crazy to see. And now you got Raquel out for extended period of time, and they just pop Ben Kindle onto the first unit power play. He scores the other night in. In Minnesota on the power play. He's got three goals for the 18 year old now. So, yeah, it's. It's been a. It's been a great start. Exciting start and like, kind of fun and maybe unexpected. Yes. Oh, yeah. To everybody's surprise, but ride that bull, baby. You get on, you wrap it in, you give the nod until that thing bucks you off.
Biz
Put your kickers on and ride that. You got that ostrich leather boy. Get on there and buck boy.
Whitney
Hey, but army, how nice. Like, obviously, I think a fresh voice coming in this year for Dan Muse and obviously a younger NHL head coach. I know he's been an assistant in the NHL, but, like, how nice do you think it is for him to have a guy like Sid where it's like, he's not gonna be coming to walk and be like, hey, guys, we got a young coach. We can run the ship here. Like, he's a guy. He's first on the ice, last on the ice. He's leading by example. So guess double part question. It's like for. For Dan Muse, it's probably like, holy. I get this guy who's basically another coach. And even for the guys on the team, it's like a new voice is huge after.
Army
Yeah.
Whitney
You know, a long time with Sully.
Army
Yeah. Yeah. 100. Like, the funniest thing with Dan Muse, like, he comes in like no one knew that he was in the conversation. That kind of name, you know, multiple interviews. I think Dubas selects him and. And then they start to put their staff together. His first game on home ice, his first Game was Mark Andre, flurry game. So he's got. He's got every hall of Famer in the lineup, and then he's got this pop in hall of Famer and Dan Muse, like, he's like, I'm standing behind the bench and it was packed. Like, that's like. Like sold out, like, insane fans. It was awesome environment. He's. He was like. He was like, holy. Like, that's my first time behind the bench. I got all this stuff going on with that atmosphere in there. That was incredible. So it's. I think it's been. I think it's been a. Well, a great start. 1. How do you get a better start than this as a new coach? You know what I mean? So. But the experience of that. And he talked about that this morning, too, in his little scrum about having sit around and being around Sid. And, like, his answer was like, man, I'm so lucky to, like, be around that and see how he conducts himself every day, see how he practices every day. And, like, usually you probably get a coach that would go like, yeah, he's a leader. He's the best. He's this. He. He delivers it in such humility and, like, at everyone's level that he's like one of you almost. He has this, like, rapport or ability to talk that is not above the question, not above anything. And he puts himself in a spot like, that we would all put ourselves in. You know what I mean? So it's. It's. It's refreshing, it's different and it's. It's been good. And I feel that around the team, too, and around the rink. Like, I go into the room now, too, and it's like. It's like a kind of a different loose, poppy vibe. And, you know, the staff is loose and.
Biz
And seemingly Sid's doing helicopter. He's awesome. Dude.
Dan
I saw when I was winning games, like, we.
Biz
I was in the shower with them today, they're like, okay, this is.
Dan
This is with the Leafs.
Biz
Ambassador's like, ah, man, I know I invited you in, but the coach has got to go.
Army
Yeah, Hazy was hurt. Hazy's around now with the boys on road trips, working his way back. And having him around has been huge, too. He's just such a beauty, too.
Whitney
That's like, the third line hasn't been great and they're still winning games. And when he comes back, like, that's going to make that third line buzz.
Army
Yeah. For me, the third line is like the one line. Like every other line has this Identity of what they are. The third line hasn't quite found that yet. And they've kind of popped bodies around whether it's Highlander, Thomasino, who's ever in that spotter in the lineup with Novak and Kindle, who's been in and out as well, just because he's 18. But that line for me hasn't like totally gelled yet. You're right. So maybe a spot that hazy can come in and settle that down. Get the big guy out there, just get the wide base floating like this with the puck out way down here with his reach just like dangling, skating around the ozone and dishing. That's what he does.
Biz
Since we're kind of on the, the Pittsburgh tire pumping element of the pod here, obviously with, with Sid coming to Pittsburgh and this like, rejuvenation of hockey there, it set up a foundation for the next wave of, of player, like local player. And we're going to be getting Logan Cooley on here soon. Did you see him playing coming up? Like, did you see him in the minor hockey ranks or hear about him, about how big of a phenomenon?
Army
I didn't. And I, I don't even know if when he was with the Penn's elite, like, if he was like this insane standout guy. His cousin L.J. mooney, who's at Minnesota, drafted by Montreal just recently, was more talked about. I feel in my mind now I saw Cooley this summer and like, I'm. My son's at an age where he gets like, skating with like Trocheck and J.T. miller and these guys. So I'm, I'm around these guys a lot and Cooley's involved in that and Mooney and these, these guys that are local. John Gibson. So I've been able to see him in the summers and like, I, I'm blown away at, at Cooley's like, legs like he has McDavid kind of skating, like gone. Like, he's just different. He's got those bow legs like he can just get going, puck on a string, great shot, sees the game well. And I mean, I don't, I don't. I think that's a great contract because I don't think we've seen like the best of what he's actually going to be yet. But I think he's like, he kind of filled out this summer, got a little man body rolling like, and, but cool story because he was the first guy, two boys to go from like Penn's elite, like the Crosby program, where you get the equipment for free. And you sign up from that to like, what he is now, which is a really cool story.
Biz
That's unreal.
Dan
Army, we appreciate it. I, I, I can't wait for this in tonight too.
Army
Jari.
Dan
Well, I was just gonna bring him up.
Biz
Can you tell Doobie to, to not bully me again?
Dan
Can you, can you explain, though, something about Jari I saw? Did he recently have a kid? Was that the off season? Because there was a, maybe it was an article or something about it changed his mindset and he wasn't taking things home as much. And he's just kind of like a little perspective with a, with a, you know, being a dad because his numbers are ridiculous and it's, it's hard not to say that might have something to do with it.
Biz
Good for him.
Dan
He feels different.
Army
Well, what they've done this year, like last year for him was a season to forget. Right. It was brutal. Like, just a really tough year for him in a 4C in a 4 nation season as well, where he's, he's not bad. Like, he maybe could have cracked that lineup. Right. Like, he's pretty good when he's on. And I've seen him put like 15 game stretches together where he's been really good and kind of the horse through that this year. Coming in, Dan Muse. Everyone's got a clean slate. Tristan Jar, you got a clean slate. Let's get to work. Good. Let's, let's go. And then what he's done is he's flip flop goalies every single game. She Loves got a shout out. No, you're not starting the next game. Jari's in. Jari gets a shutout. Nope. She Loves is in. So she Loves started last game and loss. He's in now. He's won four in a row. I am. It's, it's, he's, he's.
Dan
Maybe no matter what, that helps because, like, yeah, hey, no matter what, I'm not playing next game. Like, let's go tonight. Like, it doesn't matter what I do.
Army
Yeah. Worry about my start, get it done, and then go to the next go. Like, I'm not playing the next game, so no worries. And just like, leave it all hanging out there on the line. But I think, like, if you look at the stats of she Loves and Jari is, the Penguins have been able to outscore some of their issues and they're getting great goaltending. I think they're like up there and that was Gabe. Goals saved above expected or whatever that status. Like, they're Real high. So they're getting some great quality outings from both guys. But Jari with a nice bounce back start, no question. And do you think, do you think with Olympics that he would be in the conversation? He, if he can keep this up, he's, he's, he's gonna have to be, I would assume, right?
Biz
Yeah.
Army
And you got Dubas. I mean, Dub's a gm.
Biz
I'll tell. I, hey, if, if he wins the Dubas bowl tonight, I'm officially on the Dubas train. I said it last.
Dan
They don't want you.
Biz
They don't want you. I, I, I, I'm not, I'm gonna root from a distance, but I could be, yes, I could be pro Dubas. I've been the most back and forth with that guy of any guy on the planet. I think I'm drinking the Kool Aid now. If, if, if they could pull it off tonight in Toronto.
Army
And if you talk about the Gensel trade one more time, I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be holding your arms back. Crossface chicken wing. Do be like huge wind up backhander bag.
Biz
All right, fair enough. Fair enough.
Dan
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Dan
So now we bring on we should.
Whitney
Make a Dubus bowl bet like a parlay.
Biz
Before we do that we have to talk to one of the brightest stars in the NHL. We should probably bring him on right now.
Dan
He doesn't need any big parlays with 80 million coming his way. Logan, what's up, buddy?
Logan Cooley
How's it going?
Dan
It's.it's going great. It's going great. We were actually. I don't know if you. You could hear. Colby Armstrong was on with us. He's from Pittsburgh. His sons grew up in Pittsburgh. We were asking him if he kind of heard about you coming up and he said no. He's like, I didn't know much about him. I'd heard about his cousin, L.J. mooney.
Whitney
Were you.
Dan
Were you a late bloomer? Were you always a stud growing up? Like, how does army not know about you?
Logan Cooley
Yeah, kind of throwing some shade right there.
Dan
I know.
Logan Cooley
No, but I mean, I wouldn't say I was like. Like the biggest. Like, I wasn't as fast or. I think that when I went to the national team is kind of really when I started to take off and find my stride and just became a lot better. But, yeah, I mean, I think, like, I wasn't the worst player, like, I think, you know, around Pittsburgh, there was still a little bit of a buzz. But, yeah, I don't know, I maybe got to talk to him privately about that one.
Biz
Yeah.
Dan
Army's dead to you now.
Ryan Reaves
That's it.
Biz
Declining his interviews.
Dan
What.
Biz
What sparked your interest the most? Like, did. Like, obviously, you said it's your cousin who. Who was already playing hockey. Like, the fact.
Dan
Younger.
Whitney
He's younger.
Biz
Oh, is he? Okay, well, like, Sid obviously came there and had a huge impact on not only the city, but obviously the hockey community. Like, what was it that got you the most engaged? And just like, I wanna. I wanna direct all my time and energy to play in hockey.
Logan Cooley
Yeah. I mean, I have two uncles that played Division 1 hockey, too. One at Notre Dame, the other at Colorado College. I had two older brothers at the time that were playing, and we were just kind of surrounded, like, that's all I kind of grown up. Like, we were a big hockey family. And then just watching my brothers, like, I'd always be at the rink, stick handling little things like that. And then I got into the game, like, Crosby's program. I was the first group that kind of started that of, you know, he gives free equipment to younger kids and gives them the chance to, you know, learn the game and see if you like it or not. I just remember, like, love in the game and kind of never look back from there.
Dan
And. And this summer, it was kind of said that you. You filled out maybe a little bit, like, took another step. You're still so young. Like, did you notice that even on the ice throughout the summer, like, maybe a little half a step quicker or anything, or were the workouts in the gym changed at all or is it just kind of like developing and getting a little older? You're just getting stronger naturally?
Logan Cooley
Yeah, I mean, I think it's a little bit of both. You know, I think my main focus is always trying to get faster. Like, I think the game is so fast now and, you know, there's so many good skaters and, you know, obviously you need to be strong. Like, I put on probably five, six, seven pounds and, you know, I don't want to be like, the guy that's like, too heavy where, you know, you can't move too much. Like, I think I found a way where I'm at right now where I'm still strong and. And feel fast too. But for me, like, each summer is my main focus focuses to can you continue to get faster and, you know, obviously maintain my weight now when you.
Whitney
I mean, you said around the Pittsburgh area you weren't the best. You were obviously better than what army said you were. But going to that national program, you look at that team, like every young stud that's in the NHL right now was on that team. Do you think that helped you a lot? Like, even just practicing with those guys and, you know, comparing yourself to those guys, like, just to get better and better?
Logan Cooley
Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think the development there is unbelievable. Like, our practices were so fun. Like, we, like every drill was compete, like small area game and, you know, at the time, we're all young kids trying to get drafted. Like, the practices were almost harder than the games. Like, guys, I honestly think competed harder in practice and than we did in the games. And I think just, you know, it pushes you so much. Like, we had Hudson gauche, you know, McGrorty, Howard now with the Islander or Edmonton. So it's just these are. Yeah, we had an unbelievable group, great coaching staff. And honestly, it helps your game so much going there.
Dan
This. This roster I'd never seen. It is insane.
Biz
Yeah, yeah, they were pretty loaded for a few years there. Like, even that Matthews Kachuk year where they had like, iron sharpens iron. Right. So when you have this, like, age group where you just get lucky enough where there's so many good players, it's just like you just continually elevate each other's play. I was going to go back to you talk about the speed and getting faster and faster. Like, obviously that's done through the weight room and, you know, gaining leg strength Any power skating in there or special things that you're doing on the ice in order, because like, you see the way that McDavid's able to gain speed through crossovers. That was kind of something like we'd never seen before before. We've had Alex Tuck on before where he said he worked with a power skater where he was able to get better at skating even with the puck on a stick. So are you doing anything on the ice that's maybe different and revolutionary in order to gain more speed?
Logan Cooley
Honestly, nothing like crazy on the ice, I think. You know, I switched to a trainer, Mark Gatos. He's with the Penguins now, actually. And for the past two years I've been with him and I've done a lot of like, stuff on the turf, dry land stuff that's, you know, pushing the sled, pulling the sled, a lot of quick crossovers, little things like that. I feel like for me that's what really makes me faster and get another step. You know, obviously I do a lot of skating in the summer, but I think where my speed really comes from is the dry land stuff. And I just feel like it makes me a lot quicker. Like, I love doing that stuff, you know, it's good cardio and I really think that, you know, it's helped my.
Biz
Game a lot get the pump.
Dan
And I'm. I'm being told on by our producer right now that you actually grew up a bigger OV fan than Sid fan. That's true. That's insane. A pitch. That's why army hates you. I think.
Logan Cooley
Actually probably, yeah. I was a big OBI fan growing up. I just, I don't know what it was like. I think the capital is what I, when I was growing up were always just so skilled. Like watching Backstrom, Kuznetsov, like those guys were so fun to watch. And you know, there's a lot of second round exits where I was disappointed. But 2018 was a good year.
Whitney
Do you think, like when me and Whit first started in the NHL, like the. There was a handful of Boston guys and I see that now in Pittsburgh, where, you know, you got you troach, J.T. miller, Gibson, your cousin who's going to be coming. Do you see like a momentum in the next 10 years where there's going to be tons and tons of guys from Pittsburgh?
Logan Cooley
Yeah, definitely. I think there's, you know, there's a lot of guys too that you know are coming up. AHL guys, some college guys that you know, are tearing it up right now. Few on Penn State. And I just think we have such a great group. Like, we have, like you said, TRO check, jt, Those guys are, you know, we have an unbelievable skate in the summer. You know, there's a lot of compete and I think it's only going to continue to grow. Like, Pittsburgh is such a passionate sports city and I think hockey is going to continue to really take off there.
Whitney
Troach told me you never. He used to have to hunt you down to pay for ice. And he saw the contract that he signed. He said he's never paying for ice again.
Logan Cooley
Yeah, he was all over me this summer about it. I wasn't signed yet. So that's.
Biz
What do they charge per skate? What are they charging?
Logan Cooley
Pretty expensive. I forget what it was.
Dan
He's never paid. He doesn't know we had Ryan Smith on. We, we. And he was, we brought up your contract and the possibility and he was like, listen, as long as he wants to be here, we know he wants to be here, it'll get done. He couldn't give us the hint. It happened about eight hours later. But how long had you, your agent and him have been been discussing or the GM and stuff and stuff? And like, were you. Was it important to you to get it done quicker rather than later and kind of get. Get it out of the way and then just play the rest of the year out?
Logan Cooley
Yeah, for sure. I mean, I always knew I wanted to be in Utah. Like, I love it here. I love playing there. I love living there. Obviously, it's, you know, it's tough. Like, you want to do what's best for yourself, but, you know, you also want to win and do what's best for the team. And, you know, there's cap going up, little things like that that have a factor. But for me, it's just, you know, there's so much back and forth and I was ready to just kind of get it over with. Like I said, I. I didn't want to get over it with. Just to get over with. Like, I wanted to be here. And I think once it gets done, you kind of get that off your back and allows you just to play and have fun. And I, early on the season, like, I was thinking about it a ton, like talking every day, and then once you're finally done with it, you could feel like you could just go out and play and do what you love to do.
Biz
I think last time we got you on, you were with the Coyotes. Like, from a player perspective, what was that whole transition like and how awesome was it to like, have an owner like Ryan Smith just like, really say it's a blank check. Whatever you guys need in order to be successful, we're gonna do it. Whether it's a new training facility, state of the art, this state of the art bat, the way you guys travel. So how easy did he make that transition and. And have you guys felt the love in that sense?
Logan Cooley
Yeah, he's been unbelievable. You know, right when we found out we're going to Arizona, like, he came to Arizona, we played Scottsdale National, I believe, and, you know, it was just right away, like we golf that had a meeting after, he's like, whatever you guys need, like, I'm gonna do it for you. And everything he's said, he's done it and, you know, he's given us every opportunity to make sure we're a top team in the league, that we get to the playoffs and then eventually win the Stanley Cup. And the new facility is unbelievable. Like, just everything he's put in, how quick everything has, you know, come up to like, I mean, last. Last season, the place was even built yet, and now it's completely done. Like, it's crazy, all the hard work he's done to make sure we're going to be a team to hopefully one day win a Stanley Cup.
Whitney
Was it tough for you guys, like, last year? I know you're younger and probably a little easier, but even guys with families like you move in last minute trying to get your family settled. And you guys didn't have the best year last year, but this year you can. It looks like you guys are all settled in and just comfortable where you're living. Comfortable on the ice.
Logan Cooley
Yeah, definitely. I think, you know, right when you move, you're trying to figure out where to live. And, you know, for me, like you said, it wasn't as tough because. Because I don't have a, you know, wife, kid or anything like that, but I couldn't imagine. Just, you know, everyone's kind of figuring out where they're living, you know, trying to find out, you know, the best spots, little things like that. But this year it just seems a lot different. Like, guys are, you know, it's nice to know, like, this is where you're gonna be. This is your home, you know, where everything is now, what to expect and how to get around little things like that that could affect you on the ice. That, you know, it seems like guys are just playing freely now. And, you know, we have a great group, too. Like, we have brought in a ton of great guys Guys that have helped our team so much to get to that next level.
Biz
One guy I wanted to ask you about was Gunther. Like, you know, I think I. It was Bedard who was telling me about him. Skating with him, it's like, you can't give him a bad pass. He has the biggest wheelhouse of any guy in the league. Like, what's it like playing with a guy where, you know, when you sign the puck, that thing's more than likely gonna end up in the back of the net?
Logan Cooley
Yeah, it's awesome. He's an unbelievable player. Like, actually one of the best shots I've ever seen, you know, and he works so hard at it, too. Like, he's Every day after practice, he's, you know, ripping 100 pucks. And it's great playing with it. Like, he. He thinks the game really well. It's not just his shot. Like, he's fast, too. We like to play fast out the rush. And, yeah, anytime he's in the slot, you're looking for him. And, you know, we've kind of developed a great chemistry so far over these past couple years, and I think it's only going to continue to get better.
Dan
I gotta ask about Paterka, because he's made an immediate impact. Like, the one goal he scored when Ryan Smith's in the corner going nuts. Like, they dealt a lot for him, but, like, the guy could score. Like, did you know much about him? I don't know how often you'd played Buffalo in your first two seasons. And what has his game been like since he's arrived, at least per personally to you?
Logan Cooley
Yeah, he's been great. Like, he's, again, super skilled. He can move, too. Like, I think, you know, not many people know. Like, he's super fast, too. And he's like, Gunther, too, could absolutely rip the puck. Like, you could get it to him anywhere, and, you know, it's probably gonna go in. But overall, I mean, us three, we've, you know, it's kind of cool. Like, we've gelled right away just the way we're thinking the game. I mean, there's still a ton of work to kind of figure out where everyone likes to be. But I think so far, like, you know, it's been great having him here. Unbelievable player. I've haven't played against Buffalo too much just being in a different conference. But, you know, you hear a lot about him, and, you know, he's everything that people kind of say about him.
Biz
When I was working with the Yotes, you know, Clayton Keller Was kind of in a similar situation as you, like, came in as a rookie, dominated. I believe he was like, third. And Calder voting. How much of an impact has he had on you? Because I just thought, like, the way that he handled himself as a professional and how he's continued to add to his bag, whether it's like a sports psychologist, the way that he trains, the way that he fuels his body, like, how much has that rubbed off on you and the rest of the group? Like, him being a leader like that and showing you guys the way.
Logan Cooley
Yeah, he's unbelievable. Like, so fun to watch. You know, you see it all the time on social media. Like, he truly is the most underrated player in the league. Like, he needs to be talked about way more. It's kind of crazy that he's not. And he's so like, I, you know, I remember being a little younger just watching him and seeing what he does on the ice. Like, it's so cool. I try to, you know, honestly model my game after him. Just the way he thinks the game, how smart he is with the puck. And he's a great leader, too. Like, I think as years kind of go by, like, he's continuing to get more vocal. You know, he may not be the loudest guy, but he leads by example with his hard work. Like in practice, he competes so hard on the ice. Like, you know, he wants the puck, he demands the puck. And it's really cool to see. Like, I. I love him as a player and he's a great person, too.
Biz
Yeah, I just. I just love the fact that you guys have you. You, Gunther and Paterka and I feel like him, Schmaltzy and Hayton have that chemistry they've developed over the last, like three, four, four years playing together, where now you guys have this awesome one, two punch on the first two lines. So I. You guys are one of the more exciting teams to watch in the league. You're in a crazy central division, but you guys are clawing right now. I think of probably the. The most underrated player in your team at this point now is though Tusky. You guys watch him. You guys go on a seven game rip. You guys must be loving the 4Z mascot going crazy for the. The fans.
Logan Cooley
Yeah, no, it was awesome right when he got announced, went on a heater. But yeah, it's cool. Like, I think, you know, there's seems like a ton of kids in. In the rink and, you know, they probably love seeing them around and probably brings a lot more to the game. So it's definitely cool to have them.
Dan
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Logan Cooley
Yeah, to be honest, not much. Like, I think, you know, when it comes to contracts and stuff like that, you don't really kind of get involved with that. But I mean, he's. He's an unbelievable player too. Like, I think just how smart he is with like, positioning and he has a lot of like little plays that go unnoticed, I feel like. And like you said, him and Kels and hey, it's like they have such an unbelievable chemistry. They know where each other are on the ice and you know, I. He's an unbelievable guy too. Like, great in the locker room, hilarious, always making everyone laugh. But I mean, he's had an unbelievable start to the season. I think he's maybe top five in points right now or maybe even higher. But he's been awesome and, you know, definitely want to keep him around, that's for sure.
Biz
Who's the court jester? I mean, obviously he like, him and his brother are hilarious. Like who? I feel like Der Zy would be a funny guy in the spicy tuna. Spicy tuna, for sure. Who. Who's the true court jester?
Whitney
Rudy.
Logan Cooley
Yeah, I mean, we got a lot of great guys. Like, Durs is a guy that, you know, likes to run his mouth, get involved, you know, stir some things up in the locker room. But honestly, we have like such a close group, you know, I think that's why again, we're having some success early on is just how close we are. Like, guys truly care about each other. Guys are always laughing, enjoying coming to the rank and such a long year. Like, you need to mixing some fun every once in a while and. But yeah, we got a great group and excited to see what we could do this year.
Biz
I'm excited. I'm actually going there, boys. I'm gonna go to the Delta center for the first time December 19th. I'm going to be doing a Nash cast. I'm bringing heater There.
Dan
Guess what? They're undefeated at home right now. One thing that you do as an alumni, I'm going this guy as an alumni. I veto it.
Whitney
Biz. I speak for all alumni and guys on the team. You're not going.
Dan
If they somehow haven't lost at home by that time.
Biz
Like, you can't go back me up.
Dan
They might have lost an ot, but whatever.
Biz
We're not giving you a rollback discount code unless you back me up. Coles.
Logan Cooley
Yeah, Drop. Dropped one of Tampa last game. So.
Biz
You guys don't even know what the. You're talking about. You don't even know what you're.
Dan
No, not okay.
Biz
Oh, my God. Look at you guys. Embarrassing. I will see you December 19th. And me and Tusky are gonna have our horns out.
Dan
All right. Thank you so much. Congratulations, dude.
Logan Cooley
Thank you. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.
Biz
I'm gonna be sleeping on Cool's couch. When I'm there. I can't even get a hotel room. What a kid, man. 80 sheets. Well deserved.
Dan
And. And army didn't even know who he was.
Whitney
If I was. If I was him, I'd drive to Army's house, buy it for cash and kick him out.
Biz
Oh, he doesn't live in that part of town. He. He's not still.
Whitney
I do it and have it. No one live in it.
Dan
Just like army did. You build this house? Does it mean a lot to you? Yeah. I'm gonna buy it, tear it right down. I'm putting in a rink right here. Guys, some other things from over the weekend. Matthew Schaefer is a complete freak. The. The youngest defenseman in the history of the National Hockey League to have two goals in a game. And you guys know it was Bobby Orr that had had that record prior. So, like, we are looking. He's five goals. He's on pace. The on pace thing, whatever. He's on pace for over 30 goals. So, I mean, at. So I actually saw a tweet. Where is this from? Jason Greger that said right here, rookie NHL demon with 20 goals in a season. Brian Leach did it in 89. Barry Beck got 22 in 78. Leech had 23 that year, and Dion Phaneuf had 20 in 2006. So it's gonna be like if you have five already, like, I could easily see him getting 20. And that win that the Islanders had.
Biz
Oh, the bench looked awesome.
Whitney
Holy.
Dan
Yeah, there it is right there. So Matthew shape already has five and 13 games played. I mean, that game, though, was completely nuts to me because you look At Columbus, who. I had a fan reach out. We're going to get more into Columbus on Thursday. But they. They, like, they look pretty good, dude. They just have some. They have some, like, moments where they. Their play lets up. And that was like, the perfect example of it, right Sunday on Long Island. But I look at, like, the end of the game, dude, after they tied it up, okay, and then Schaefer made a great play, knocking the puck down, just throwing it to the net. Kind of a wild bounce. But then the shift after. On Holmstrom's goal, the. Severson has it behind the net. You got to watch the goal biz. He's falling over. It looked like Lee kind of, like grabbed him, and I don't think it was a penalty. And just chucks it up the middle. And next thing you know, it's like. And then I think Coyle and he.
Biz
Went to Ryan Whitney's hockey school.
Whitney
His foot kicked it out to the middle.
Dan
Was that his foot? It looked like it was on his stick. And as he was falling, maybe it wasn't on purpose, but then, like, I think Monahan and Coyle are kind of just like, watching as. As. As Holmstrom bangs it in and the UBS arena, it was going.
Biz
It's rocking now, man.
Dan
All Shaffer, kind of.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah.
Whitney
Oh, 100%. The thing that I like about Schaefer, like, even when Dion came in, like, remember, he was scoring bombs, like, just ripping pucks. Like Schaefer's first goal in that game, like, it's just a seeing eye smart shot. Like, he knows where the score screen is. He's putting it where the goalie can't see it. The second one obviously goes off a stick. It's not a great goal, but he's just getting the puck to the net, making smart plays. He's not trying to rip the puck through the net. He's just such a. He's so ahead of his time. I feel like for his age, that little simple plays that he makes during a game, you're like, okay, that guy's been in the league for 10 years. But no, he's been in the league for 10 days. It's insane.
Biz
What do they call them? Sifters.
Dan
Sifters.
Biz
Send them through.
Whitney
Yeah, Little sifter.
Biz
Merle's invented that term.
Whitney
Did he?
Biz
Through.
Dan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whitney
But also, too, like, they have.
Dan
They have.
Whitney
They have ball Bugner coaching the D in the Island. And I know, like, when Bernsey in San Jose had him, like, Burns, he was like, dude, this guy is so good. For me offensively, even defensively, helping me out. Like he was raved about him. And I know Boogs, like can get the best out of the defenseman because, you know, he was a stay at home demon. But he knows what it takes offensively too. So I think that's a great combination for both of them.
Dan
Yeah, the other. The other things that kind of caught my eye, at least on Sunday was that Celebrini cider battle.
Biz
Oh, yeah, that was a clip that.
Dan
Went viral, but pretty viral of two young studs. And army said it on the group chat. It was a very Crosby looking clip by Celebrini. We've said a lot that there are many comparisons kind of between like their body type, like how hard they play. The old. What is the saying? Just the superstar grinder, the superstar fourth liner. And they were going back and forth. They both ended up in the box, I believe. I think if you could like read lips celebrating. He's like. It was a battle. Like Cider's giving it to him. But those guys going back and forth. Detroit gets another win. They look awesome. That's Sandy. For anyone who enjoys offensive defenseman, Sandine Pelica on Detroit is so smooth and so fun to watch. I know we're talking about Schaefer. This is another rookie defenseman that. It's different. Schaefer's got that dynamic McKinnon style skating and Sandine Pelica just floats out there. So I love watching that kid play. Detroit's been awesome. And then the other one, you know.
Whitney
What that battle reminded me of?
Dan
Sorry biz.
Whitney
Yeah. Pronger and Crosby, like when Pronger was in Philly when they used to battle in front of the net and like, Sid would just never back down. And for a young kid like Mac, like most, Cider's a huge man and he just did not back down. I loved it out of him.
Biz
Boys. One of my. One of my new favorite things on this podcast is, is to bring surprises and the fact that we're talking about Macklin Celebrini. Why not talk about the guy that protects him night in, night out? Welcome to the Spit and Chicklets podcast.
Dan
Ryan Reeves. Wow. I love fellas.
Ryan Reaves
How we doing?
Dan
Long time, buddy. How you doing? Thanks for coming up. Yeah, Business just surprising us nowadays.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah, he's a man of many surprises.
Dan
Were you. Were you acting career.
Ryan Reaves
Now that that commercial is getting outplayed, it's out of control. The. The ones banging on the. On your door.
Biz
Oh, the draftkings. The crown is yours. Yeah. That's a big Sponsor of what we.
Ryan Reaves
Had is that thing. That thing is everywhere.
Biz
They're abusing it. Like my Mike, my RAYA profile. All right, I'll tell them to tone down a little bit. I don't know what. What channel you have it on, but, buddy, the one of the reasons I wanted to get you on is we had a good laugh about. About this fantasy football league, the league that you guys are running throughout the league. Like, what is going on with.
Ryan Reaves
Oh, yeah. I mean, when I got here, they said Quickie started the league with eight teams, and I. I mean, I love fantasy, so I was all over that.
Biz
Okay.
Dan
First, I think that's what they told us on their little bed interview they gave us.
Ryan Reaves
We are currently the only undefeated team, but we're. I think we're about to eat a loss here unless Joe Devonte Williams wants to run for 400. But, yeah, we got a nice squad. Heavy on the running backs.
Biz
Nice, nice. What's it like seeing these two young kids, Will Smith and Celebrini, just doing their thing. And that game at MSG was. I mean, especially after they get interviewed by that lady, it just seems like there was so much attention around the team and for them to show up the way they did, that was a pretty special night for the. Those young bucks.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah, I mean, I said it before I got here. Those two kids are unbelievable. Like, Mac is. He's so much better than some of these other young guys that get all the praise. He, you know, he goes into the hard areas. He plays hard. He's in front of the net. You saw him with cider yesterday. He's not afraid to muck it up. Him and Mac together are just. They're disgusting on that line. So it's fun to watch. It's fun to watch these two grow. You know, I've only been here for two months, but to see that talent and what this organization is going to be is. Is pretty cool.
Biz
Did they legit just tell you, if anyone goes near them, just kill them and we're okay with it?
Ryan Reaves
I think I. I don't think they have to tell me that. I think.
Whitney
I don't think.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah, I think I know what I'm here for.
Whitney
Yeah.
Dan
Yeah. Like when. When you were called, you're traded there. You're like, I get it. I get it.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah. Yeah. We need a couple goals. All right. We didn't score too well. You did get one.
Biz
One in your first game and a scrap.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah, I'm coming out hot here. I had to win over the fans there's not. Not a lot of love for 75 here over the last couple years. I had to win them over.
Biz
Good.
Whitney
Have you. Have you noticed Warovski's kids being better behaved in, like, the. The family room after games after the threat that came from. From Papa Bear?
Ryan Reaves
Well, I. I saw one missing after we won that first game, so I think we got to find him, but I haven't had the. I haven't had the pleasure of meeting them yet.
Biz
He called Denzel. He couldn't get him, so he got Revo. Man on fire. Go find my kid.
Ryan Reaves
He's just a pet.
Biz
Go ahead.
Ryan Reaves
He's just a passionate guy. He just. He just wants to win just like everybody else. So I just maybe. Maybe came out the. The wrong way, but everybody knew what he meant.
Biz
I said it. I love the move. Basically calling out the team. Like, what are you gonna put up? What are you putting on the board? Yeah, I'm putting on blood money here. You guys. Step it up and get it done. Stop worrying about your goddamn fantasy football team. Get us a dub here. I will say, though, Revo, you look unreal and teal. Those jerseys are money.
Ryan Reaves
I. I love them. I like the black ones a lot, actually. Those things are. Those things are nasty.
Dan
Yeah.
Ryan Reaves
But, yeah, the teal looks good. That'll be going up on the wall when I retire.
Dan
Have. Have the fans been showing up a little bit more? Obviously, last year's tough. You weren't there. But now the excitement and celebrity just being such a big draw, like, are you seeing the atmosphere in there get better? Because you remember back in the day, you're on the blues and your other teams, like, going in there was a nightmare. So you. You've seen what it can be. Is it. Is it stepping it up a little bit?
Ryan Reaves
Yeah, I mean, it's not like what it was back then. Like, you know, when I was in Vegas and that rivalry was. Was heavy, you know, that place was. It was scary to come in there. And, you know, obviously they had, you know, cup contending teams those years, so, you know, I know they. They struggled a little last year. I think it's been getting a little bit better. But, you know, it's still loud in there. Even even though they're not selling out, it's still loud. It's still a fun atmosphere to play in. So, you know, hopefully. Hopefully these kids can keep doing what they're doing and. And we can keep. Keep rolling a little bit here and, you know, fans start coming back a little bit more.
Dan
And RA had told Us that the trip to New York involved a Broadway show and that you were the guy in charge of that. You were the one that's kind of organizing. Had you been to some prior and. And just wanted to get the boys together for that.
Ryan Reaves
I. I've only been to Book of Mormon. That was my seventh time going. I'm a big south park fan. That kills me. Like, everything south park kills me. But when I heard about this Broadway show, I saw it in St. Louis the first time, the traveling one. And I left there. It was the night before game. I left there. My stomach, my mouth was killing me because I was laughing so hard. And then we were leaving to Winnipeg like a couple days later. And that traveling show happened to me, going to Winnipeg. So I took my brother and maybe my mom a couple days later. And I've seen it, you know, five times since. But yeah, it was just good way. It was the first long road trip, good way to get the boys together. We, yeah, we all went out there. It was a good time. Boys love it.
Dan
So you. You say you like South Park? Are you, like, up to date with episodes coming out? Because I had a buddy tell me I had to watch the six seven one. They did one on six seven. Dude, biz, it is so funny.
Biz
I don't. I don't get, like, how are they making fun of 6 7, just how stupid it is.
Dan
Dude, they make fun of everything at the exact right time. Like, they're. It's incredible how like, they right there on top of, like, whatever's going on. And this episode, it just. It was. It was unreal. I don't know if you'd seen it, Revo.
Ryan Reaves
Well, have you ever. Have you ever seen that? You ever seen that documentary? I think it's called Six Days or Seven Days to Air, where they show how they do it. It's like, you know, it airs on Wednesday. They talk about the new episode on Thursday. They write Friday, Saturday. Oh, you guys all frozen on me.
Biz
No, we can still hear you, but that's okay.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah, you look great.
Biz
Well, we can.
Ryan Reaves
Daniel. Okay. I gotta pay my bills here. Yeah, and then it's like, it's every week. And, you know, they write Friday, Saturday, they submit it on Sunday, they get the notes back or something like that. But, you know, the fact that they can do that week in, week out. I think there's some of the smartest people in the world, like, to take something that happens yesterday and you have a cartoon about it in a week is unbelievable. To answer your question, I've only seen the first episode of this season because I'm trying to find the Charlie Kirk one, but they, they banned it. They took it down. And so I'm trying to watch them in order, but I can't find it.
Biz
Yeah, that was. Yeah, that was obviously difficult timing. I heard that they had released one and. No, but, like, but he had watched it and he, like, he didn't take himself too seriously, where he laughed at a lot of the things that they were.
Ryan Reaves
No, he's. He said he loved it, which I, I'm surprised they took it down after he said that. So I'm hoping. I'm hoping once the temperature cools down a bit that they'll re. Release it.
Biz
Yeah, but so I. This summer you had me cracking up. You did that Samsung ad where you came at me. Could you see in your post career getting involved in media, doing acting? I mean, you said you were a big fan of the Book of Mormon. Like, could you see yourself putting yourself out there like that more and more?
Ryan Reaves
You know, I, I bounce back and forth of what I want to do. I think. I think I'd have a hard time not being part of a team, you know, like getting into coaching management is something that I, I guess would be at the top. But, you know, at the same time, I have a lot of fun doing, you know, like these kind of interviews. But I, I wouldn't want to be on like a panel where it just got to be like, oh, you know, they got to get the pucks in deep and, you know, they got a little. Get a little, little more net front. Like, that's not me. Like, I need to. I need to be able to talk freely and I gotta be able to swear a little bit. Like, that's more me. So I'm not sure. I'm trying to buy. I'm trying to earn one more contract here so I can, you know, help this team a little bit more and get to a thousand games and then.
Biz
922 right now, buddy.
Dan
I was gonna bring it up. I think we mentioned it a few episodes ago that you had told the story, like, oh, my God, I played a hundred. Oh, my God, I just played my 200th game and it's just continued and I looked 78 away. So I'm glad you brought that up because it's been incredible. And I'm sure last year was, like, tough at times, right? And like now it must feel, at least from my perspective, like you just matter a little bit more to the sharks, right? Like, there's so many bodies in Toronto and like, you got these young guys. People aren't going to do to them with you out there. Like, is that a feeling you have as well?
Ryan Reaves
Yeah. You know what? It's hard. It's hard to describe, but I just feel like a little bit more myself here. You know, I think in Toronto, it's.
Army
Just a little more.
Ryan Reaves
A little more corporate. Everything's a little more. You know, you got people hovering over you all the time. You know, like, you do an interview in Toronto and they're running down like, hey, don't say this. It's like, well, then you do the interview. You know what I mean? It's like here they don't come and tell me what to do. You know, it's. I just feel like there's. I'm a little freer to be myself here and just a little more comfortable. So, you know, when you're a little more comfortable, you play better, you have more fun, and it's just how it is.
Biz
Yeah, no, it's. It. Yeah. And like, I feel like people were trying to get on you a little bit for, like, your. Your comments about the. The Marner situation and him asking you, like, what was it like playing in Vegas, as if though you were being a turn court towards the leave. So I get. Sometimes it could be just a little bit too much. And it's like. Like Whit said, it seems like you're kind of more of yourself and you've really gelled with. With being a part of. Of the Sharks organization. So it works for some people, doesn't for others, buddy. And we just. At the end of the day, you just want guys to be happy.
Whitney
Yeah.
Biz
Yeah.
Ryan Reaves
I mean, I'm. I'm happy here. Like, the guys are unbelievable. We have a lot of fun together. You know, we're grinding through building, you know, building what we want to be a playoff team. And, you know, I think we got a good chance this year. I think you look at our last couple games, we've been playing really well against some good teams. Beat Colorado the other day. You know, we got to fix some things. We just got to be a little more consistent. We gotta stay out of the box a little bit, but we're. When we're playing well, we can keep up.
Biz
My. My favorite. Oh, go ahead, Whit. You want to go?
Dan
Well, I was just gonna ask about one guy because Celebrini Smith and, like, Mises drafted, but I watched one of the games that Khuras is nasty. Like, he didn't do anything in Chicago last year. And I was like, this guy's unbelievable. He looks unbelievable out there.
Ryan Reaves
He looked really good in camp. Like I, I remember watching, it's like, God damn. Like, I don't, I don't, I don't like pay attention a lot to, to the individual players. But like I was like, God damn. This guy's. He's got some silky missile. He's dancing guys. And you know, you look at him in the last couple games, you know, two goals the other day and he gets his chances. He's. He knows how to dance. So yeah, we got, we got some talent on this team. You know, Toph just. Toph just knows how to score goals. It's. It's unbelievable. You know, he just hasn't touching further than that. So, you know, we got the pieces here for sure.
Biz
We're kind of basically asked what I was going to ask. I always like asking player like San Jose is maybe not a team that's like watched throughout the. The hockey world. Maybe more so now that they have Celebrini and Smith. But who was one guy when you went there were just from watching his practice habits, seeing him in games where you're like, wow, this guy's way better than anybody gives him credit for. And maybe this a guy who will even take another step and be eventually a superstar. Is there anyone on the team that else stands out to you?
Ryan Reaves
Well, I mean the. I said that about celebrating like, because again, like I didn't. I don't. You know, I watch him, I see him, I see his points. But like to see how hard he works and, and it's not all perimeter stuff. It's.
Army
It's.
Ryan Reaves
It's in front of the net, it's in the corners, it's in practice, it's in games. Like, you know, to me somebody's saying that Bedard is better than him.
Logan Cooley
Is.
Ryan Reaves
Is a joke. Like he's. He plays so much harder. He plays the right way. He plays, you know, in all three zones. I think, I think celebrating is going to be a serious problem in this league and he already is. But I think, you know, the next two, three years he's going to be a serious, serious problem.
Dan
Well, I mean, that's it.
Biz
Is that if you played with him, Sid too. Does he, does he remind you of him?
Ryan Reaves
Yeah, I mean, you know, when I played with Sid, he had been, you know, much more established and you know, one cops and all that. But yeah, I mean his work ethic and his skill for sure.
Dan
Unreal. Great. I'm being Told right now to tell you. And I love this idea by G. We got Monday, Chicklets, Friday Chicklets Wednesday, game notes Tuesday, Thursday, the Ryan Reeves show. You let us know.
Biz
Got a hell of a ring to it.
Dan
Any point in time about getting on and having your own show within the Chiclets world, because it's entertaining every time you're on. I do like that.
Ryan Reaves
Is that with the fellas?
Biz
Whatever you want, but you just can't swear. And you have to talk about the Toronto Maple Leafs every show. So I know you said you don't like being told what to say.
Ryan Reaves
I gotta get the pucks in deep, boy. I mean, hey, I'm, I'm all for it. I, I, I love doing this with you, with you guys. So you guys let me know what you want to do, and I'm sure I can hop on a little more.
Dan
You're always. It's nice to ask you, like, what are you watching right now? Like, what are you doing? I know fantasy football is a big thing, but, like, you got any shows for us? Because I know you got so much downtime. I know you got the family and stuff, but what's been going on away from the rink?
Ryan Reaves
I'm watching Black Rabbit right now. I'm on the last episode of that.
Dan
On the main screen. I.
Ryan Reaves
And then I'm. I've just been rolling through Archer again. I don't know if you guys seen that big cartoon guy.
Whitney
Archer.
Biz
Oh, yeah, Archer. I've seen that.
Ryan Reaves
Arch was one of the funniest shows you'll ever see. It is, it is diabolical.
Biz
I, I had this tattoo artist where I would go get all my. I mean, he was a good artist. I just picked the wrong ones to get like a scarecrow on my arm. But he would always have Archer on. And, And I was like, oh, yeah, this is a very, like, witty. Like, they're just on each other non stop.
Ryan Reaves
That's, that's all it is. He just. The main guy, he just shits on everybody non stop. He's just, he's drinking all the time. It's. It's hilarious. My brother had been telling me to do it for, oh man, like, five, six years. Like, man, just watch Archer. Watch Archer. And for some reason, I don't know if it was the animation, I didn't love at first, and then I started watching. I probably crushed all 14 seasons in a month.
Biz
Just get. No wonder you could.
Ryan Reaves
I don't sleep after. It's. I do all my damage after games, so I don't sleep after games, I'm usually up till like four in the morning, so.
Dan
Especially late.
Ryan Reaves
Oh, dude, it's. I've seen sleep doctors. I've seen all these people and like, the only thing that works for me is Ambien. And I don't like Ambien, so I just grind out the, the two, three hours of sleep and go grind out on the ice the next day.
Biz
No way. So, okay, so what about like, like breathing and meditate?
Ryan Reaves
Anything I've done, I've, I've done breathing, I've done.
Biz
These guys just ball bus. I can't say anything here. Revo, I need you to. Come on.
Whitney
You try breathing, closing your eyes to.
Dan
The screen right now move back.
Ryan Reaves
I, I breathe in through the nose, out through the mouth. I listen to those, you know, I listen to one of those, those guys who talk about like, oh, there's a, there's a canoe and there's a, there's a chess in the canoe. And like, as he's talking, I just start laughing. I was like, what is this guy talking about? Like, I'm trying to sleep. He's talking about a canoe that's drifting off to the middle of the sea. I was like, just, nothing works for me. I've done, I've done like noise machines. I've done breathing techniques. I've done.
Biz
The black noise drives me.
Dan
I listen. It's white noise.
Ryan Reaves
I listen to brown noise.
Dan
It's white for me. Black noise.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah. I don't know, biz. I don't know what you're doing with black noise.
Army
Come on.
Biz
Sorry, Revo.
Ryan Reaves
I know you got the curls going, but come on.
Biz
It's a mix of black mix noise. Yeah, Mixed noise, Mulatto noise. What about, what about nature? Sounds like waves crashing.
Ryan Reaves
I love, I love that too. But it's just like I, I, on regular days, I fall asleep to that. I use a brown noise sometimes on the road. I listen to like ocean waves after games. It just doesn't work. Like, if I, if I try and go to sleep at 2 o', clock, I won't fall asleep all night. Like if I try and force it, I'll just be up all night. So I go. I usually like stay up till 3, I'll go to bed at 4 and I'll try and fall asleep like 4, 4:35 and get like 3 or 4 hours. But if I try and force it, I'm getting zero minutes.
Biz
Okay, this is a personal question. It won't be the rollback. Last question. Like, what if you have, like, what if you and the lady get a.
Ryan Reaves
Little frisky like it doesn't do anything.
Biz
Doesn't.
Ryan Reaves
It doesn't do anything.
Biz
Damn.
Dan
He puts her to sleep with his action.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah, she's just snoring next to me. Then that's all happens.
Dan
Wait, I was revo. Does this mean that post practice after that, the game day. Like you must have to shut her down right when you get home.
Ryan Reaves
No, not usually.
Dan
Just grind it.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah, well, yeah, because the kids are usually home and my son's at hockey every, every two, three days. My daughter's gymnastics twice a week. So there's. I'm. I'm at the, I live at like a. A practice rink is Shark's ice. Like my kid plays and practices out there. I. I'm at the rink more. I'm at home now. He's nine. He made a. Made a travel team here. Yeah, he's. He's buzzing.
Biz
He looked. Does he love it?
Army
Oh, that's.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah, yeah, he's getting good. He's got big feet like me. So you like his crossing over? Isn't as good, but he's fast. He's got nasty miss. I don't know where he gets these, these hands from, but he's, he's a nice player. I go up for practice. I. I didn't do the whole USA Hockey, get on the bench thing. It's like a 16 hour course and I'd only be able to do a couple games, so I wasn't, I wasn't about.
Biz
You're not a school guy.
Whitney
I'd rather watch.
Ryan Reaves
I got time for that.
Dan
Sorry I can't watch your game. I'm searching for the Charlie Kirk south park episode.
Biz
You're probably more valuable in the crowd. Like if the ref has a bad car or something. You probably just whistle and you're like it. You're like.
Ryan Reaves
No, I don't, I don't really yell from the crowd. That's not me.
Biz
Just on the, on the glass with his shirt off, just titty flexing sometimes. Call another one. Call another one.
Dan
Yeah, but your son like getting to go in the room and like I'm sure he gets out on the ice at the end of practice or something once in a while like that. As for a nine year old dude, that is dream come true. I bet.
Ryan Reaves
Well, so we, we practice at like whatever it is, 12 or 11:30. And then on Fridays he gets let out at 12 o' clock every day. So he comes right to the rink and we'll skate for an hour, hour and a Half our goalie coach's son is on his team, too. So I'll take him out and I'll run drills with them. It's fine. Honestly, man, I. I have so much fun working with him. It's. It's one of my favorite things to do is get on the ice with him and. And watch how much better he gets every week. Like, he starts doing, like, stuff that we work on on the ice, he starts doing in games, although sometimes he interprets it a little. While we were. We were working on a drill the other day where he, you know, crosses over and then I give him the puck and he. Instead of just like, pushing the puck, he's stick handling and crossing over at the same time. And I said, you know, you can gain speed and kind of be deceptive with defenseman this way. While he.
Army
He.
Ryan Reaves
In his head, it was, this is how you skate fast. So the other day he was just crossing over, back, checking, and he was going side to side. I was like, what the are you doing, dog?
Dan
You told me to do that.
Ryan Reaves
I know. He's just like. He didn't understand what I was saying, but I was like, no, no, that's. That's not. That's not how we skate at top speed. That was just like when you have the puck and you're trying to make.
Biz
Moves, trying to listen the whole rights, man, listen.
Ryan Reaves
No, no, he does. He listens well and he. He doesn't get frustrated on the ice. Like, if he. If he can't do something, he keeps doing it, keeps doing it, and he. He takes things very well. Like, he. He started not. I critique him, and he did. He didn't like that at first, and now he's. He's over that hump where I say, listen, you got to change this. And he's gets right to work with it, and it's. It's. It's real fun to see and, you.
Biz
Know, oh, go ahead.
Dan
There's going to be a time where he. There's going to be a time where, like, if he's got sick mitts and he turns into a goal scorer, though, that he's gonna be like, dad, like, I know more about goal scoring than you do.
Whitney
Right?
Biz
True.
Ryan Reaves
Oh, he's. He's well on his way to that. Like, he's gonna be. He's gonna be a way better player than I was. But you know what the thing is, like, when I. When I grew up, I'm taught low strides, like, you know, long, hard strides, right? Everything is now on your toes and Choppy and everything. It's like there's a whole new science behind. I wasn't taught any of this stuff. So like all the, all these kids, like there's, you know, there's 14 year old kids that are better than half these NHL players now because they're just taught different. It's nuts.
Biz
Oh, like kind of like the McDavid crossover is like all of them are doing that type of shit.
Dan
Yeah.
Ryan Reaves
But well, everything is like, you know, when I was, when I was taught to go fast, everything was, you know, get low and you're like long hard strides.
Whitney
Right.
Ryan Reaves
And now, now I'm seeing these kids and like I was working with a skating coach in Toronto and he's saying you want all your weight on the front of your blade and you, you want to be completely upright and you want to be touching the ice as little as possible. Well, that's the exact opposite of how I was taught to go. Yeah, like the exact opposite. So. Yeah, and it makes sense. For sure, it makes sense. But that's just not how I was taught. Like you're not going to teach a 38 year old, you know, how to skate differently 15, 16 years into his career. So I try and put it to work and sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.
Biz
Go ahead. Yes sir.
Whitney
Is, is your son a kid that is able to. Because you know the attention Spanish span on young kids now is he able to like go to the games and watch them? Because I think that's so helpful for little kids to like actually sit and watch the game. Not just the five second highlights.
Ryan Reaves
No, the last like two years he's, he's really like sat down. He sits there and you know, he yells at the refs. He yells with the crowds. It's. He started. He's starting to catch stuff on the ice. Like my wife tells me all the time, like he sees stuff. He's you know, yelling at refs when there's a bad call. So you know, it's. He's. His tension span has got a lot longer for games now.
Biz
That's awesome. I think when we had. Or it was. Yeah, it was. Was it Delandria who was taking shits in the young guys rooms of the Sharks?
Dan
Yeah, but it was last year. It was last.
Biz
Last year. Anybody in anybody's room this year off.
Whitney
The plane, like what's not reborn.
Ryan Reaves
I'm not in my room, I'll tell you that for free.
Whitney
No chance you might be able to escape better than.
Ryan Reaves
There'll be repercussions for that.
Biz
What. What's been the, like the funniest moment of the season for the boys? Like what's been. Other than maybe going to that. That book of. Of Mormon, like, what have you guys done? That has been awesome. Like the highlight, you know, we.
Ryan Reaves
We haven't done a lot. That was our first road trip and unfortunately it was a back to back in New York. We had the game day off and then a back to back and then to mini. We went to. And we went to. I've been to Billy Sushi in Minneapolis.
Dan
Oh, you think that's our spot whenever we go there.
Ryan Reaves
We missed Billy though. He was out of town with a lot of fights.
Dan
Oh, Billy, he's got the American flag, the ak for. I'm like, what is going on? Right?
Biz
You ever.
Ryan Reaves
You ever. You ever lift the little flap in the private room back there?
Biz
Oh yeah.
Ryan Reaves
Oh yeah. You give that thing a little flick. Hey, Biz.
Biz
He brought us. Oh yeah, he brought us to this other. He had like a saki room built.
Dan
Yeah.
Biz
Last time we were there.
Ryan Reaves
Well, Billy's after dark is downstairs.
Biz
Yeah. So there's Billy. That. That's the one downstairs. Or sorry, not a sake room. It was like a. Was it a Japanese whiskey room?
Dan
Yeah, it was sick. It was, it was. It was in like a different part of the building. Even like a private, like nice new room with all sake.
Biz
And then they also had this underground restaurant there that also had sushi, but they had other things on the menu that were special from the actual restaurant. So Billy's got a lot going on and. And also. I'll be honest, when he's there though, by the time you're done the meal, you're just exhausted because he just did a full stand up routine for two.
Ryan Reaves
Hours and saki everywhere. Like, it's a good thing he wasn't there when we were playing there because, man, there would have been shots going everywhere. It's not what the boys needed.
Biz
No, it's like basic. Cancel rookie party because we're having it tonight at dinner.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah, exactly.
Biz
Oh, man, that's awesome. Well, Revo, I. I don't know what else you guys got. It's always good seeing your face, man. 922, you're. You're less than 80 games away from hitting a thousand, man. And I can't think of another guy more deserving. Well, maybe Yance.
Dan
Well, thinking of like you sleeping on the massage table to where you are now. I can't even imagine for. For you how different you are.
Whitney
Alaska.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah. It's Insane. Like just, you know, from coming to that thinking, like the, the, the first thought in my head when that happened was, I will never see another NHL locker room again. And then 16 seasons later, chasing a thousand. It's just, it's hard to. It's hard to believe that I actually made it this far. So, yeah, I'm hoping I get there. It'll be, it'll be a cool feeling if I do, but more than anything, I hope, you know, I can get another year with the Sharks and help them build something here.
Biz
You'll get there. But if you don't, we always got a spot for you on Yan's hat. The Gargoyles. We got a pro team now.
Ryan Reaves
Oh, yeah.
Biz
We would love to have you to get that room going. We just got.
Dan
And I didn't know you were coming on. Surprise. Great move by Biz. And I just randomly had my Orlando Solar Bears coffee mug and you spent a little time there. That's the difference.
Ryan Reaves
I did. I was. That was a great time playing down there too.
Dan
Dude. Thank you so much for coming on. We, we love catching up with you and I, I really hope at some point we have a Ryan Reeve show on the Chiclets network, but we'll let you grind out a thousand and then we'll talk again. All right, buddy?
Ryan Reaves
All right. You got a deal.
Biz
Love you, Revo.
Dan
What a guy. Hey, a couple clicks for you, buddy.
Biz
No, you know, I do it for you guys because you, you're the best. I love you. And I knew you guys would enjoy getting Revo on.
Whitney
How about, how about the smile on his face? Just like you could tell how much it would mean him to play a thousand games. And like he said where he came from, like, I hope he gets that, man. He deserves it.
Dan
The only smile bigger was when he was talking about not being on the Leafs anymore. The poor guy was stuck in business team for all those years.
Biz
Shut up.
Dan
Another thing I noticed and we've talked about them a lot, the Ducks are electric. They took the lead in the Pacific, which I, I mean, I don't love. That's the Oilers division. But they look amazing. And the best part was they thrashed Pasha's Devils. And it was, I mean, Gauthier is the Kit Carter. Gauthier is unreal. Leo Carlson has I think a seven game point streak. Now. I, I, there's two other McTavish and maybe Getlaff did it. Youngest players to do that for Anaheim. Lomb, go check out Vetrano. Got his first of the year. Go look at the lacombe assist, just an incredible read. He comes down, then he like makes this diving play to whack it over to Frankie V. So hopefully now he gets going because they're, they're playing this well without him even scoring yet. I think they probably penciled him in for 25 goals.
Whitney
So he's a streaky scorer too. So when he gets hot, he's gonna, he'll be lighting the lamp at.
Biz
At ease, I think, and, and shout out to Cutter Goche. I mean, didn't give a flying that the city of Philadelphia was going to turn on him and hate his guts, but boy, did he talk his way into a great situation.
Dan
Oh, I know you're right.
Biz
Getting over there with that young group, group like that is, that is playing chess, not checkers, man. That's seeing right exactly where your career trajectory is going. He's saying, I want to go play with that group. I know I'm going to be public enemy number one. I mean, I know I wouldn't want Jonesy and, and Brier not liking me, so I would stick around, but that. You got to have some hair on your nuts to call that shot. So, hey, a little more drama for our league, but he's in a good spot. And I agree with you, Wit, like they went from being like very vanilla, not fun to watch, bad morale around the rink. Say what you want about the coach last year, but they got Quinville now and he's got the boys playing hard and, and this is going to be, this is going to be a team in a few years that's going to be set up for like a 10 year run of sustained success. Making the playoffs, being a pain in the ass in the west, probably multiple conference finals at some point. And after the McDavid era and after Vegas, I mean Vegas always seems to do a good job of reloading, but after Vegas is done, the, the Pacific Division is going to be Anaheim's and, and, and really two teams in California's division for a long time.
Dan
Yeah, it'll be crazy to see.
Whitney
Yes.
Dan
Seven, eight years from now. Who knows if it's just San Jose, Anaheim battling again. I got lucky. I got to play in a Duck Shark series. We beat those guys. They won the President's Trophy, we took them down as the eight seed, but just the, the rivalry was incredible. I know Anaheim and LA is a little bit more of like hated rivals, but if San Jose and Anaheim end up where we think they are, it'll be great for the game tonight. The oilers are in St. Louis oilers are picking things up a little bit after the Jays lost the heartbreaker. Evan Bouchard, he picked up your country with a beautiful OT winner. It's nice to see him do that, help both the rest of you guys in their healing. I didn't know. Did you notice? So the clip that we talked about or I mentioned of, of the Oilers fans watching the, the game seven with the game going on, McDavid after. I totally get it. He's like, it was kind of bizarre. Like, what did you guys think of that?
Whitney
I think he definitely had them shut it off for the third. Right?
Biz
Well, he's got, he's got a remote on the bed.
Whitney
He definitely said, hey, Siri, shut the TV off. Like he had had enough. And they did and they won.
Biz
Yeah. So I read the quote and I'm like, ah, you know, do you want.
Dan
To see the clip right now? We have it.
Biz
Yeah, I think it's better to see the clip because it's, it comes off way better play this game.
Logan Cooley
When they're showing the Jays game on.
Biz
The fans are cheering J.
Whitney
Like, what was that?
Ryan Reaves
Like, that was really, really strange. Obviously, we're all on the Jays bandwagon and everybody's wanting them to win and so to speak. Disappointing, obviously, but strange. Strange to have it on during the game. Listen to the crowd was distracting for sure. I'm glad they, they shut it off there for the third.
Dan
Hey, that, that is. Oh, sorry. That is the most normal McDavid's, like, ever seen with the media. He was just like, basically, like, what the was that?
Biz
Yeah.
Whitney
Are we not at a hockey game?
Biz
But like, his face was like, he said it polite. It was strange. But really, his face is like, like, what? Okay, that. Right. So, yes, we're seeing now, like, that's true. McDavid right there. And I love that, I love that a lot. But, yeah, I don't know why they would do that. And then on top of that, they thought they won. So the whole crowd's going crazy during the game. Obviously they didn't, and it's just bringing bad juju. But thankfully, like you said, Evan Bouchard really lifted the country up and stop turning it over and actually put one in the back of the net. Now he has had a couple games where it's been just as crazy. And I will say, like, I, I, we got heated when we were talking about this contract number. I no longer want to talk about that or care about that. I just want to give props to a guy who is now one of the more entertaining players to watch. It's a riverboat gambler. He doesn't give a flying about regular season hockey. He's not going to change his habits.
Dan
He.
Biz
He's still going to make the high risk play. And when other players are a little bit looser come regular season, yeah, sometimes those plays get picked off. But when everybody's wound up tight because the Stanley Cups on the line and his heartbeat is still at 45 beats per minute, like a goddamn beluga whale in the middle of the ocean, he just. He gets them through. He.
Dan
He called me the other night and I'm like, what's up? And he's like, nothing. He sounded all serious. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, nothing, dude. This Bouchard guy, he just amazes me. I can't get over it. This guy, he doesn't give a. He's just. And I'm like, I know, buddy. I've been watching him. Just wait till the playoffs. He just ups his game. One of the best playoff defensemen of all time, according to the numbers. Statistically, offensively, at business. Like, I know, it's just. It's amazing. He doesn't care. He'll try anything.
Biz
He. But that's the thing. He doesn't up his game. He's playing at a level right now where when the give a meter in the heartbeat is so low, when other players on the ice are stressed out about the moment and like, oh my God, we're playing, it's like they're a little bit more tense. So those play, he ends up getting away with all that stuff. It's like the universe just opens up for him and all those little seam passes and it somehow gets through the triangle and him swinging his stick and batting things out of the air. Like the, the play he made on. On Byfield, like, those things just tend to go his way because just give a meter is so low and he's able to keep it there. So if they.
Whitney
If the Blue. If the Blue Jays pinch ran for Bouchard on third base, he would have walked home.
Biz
He would have started walking to home base before the guy even threw the ball.
Dan
Yeah.
Army
Yeah.
Dan
Stealing contact.
Whitney
They win. Beluga whale. Dude, I am dying.
Dan
The oilers are in St. Louis tonight. The Blues are, I don't know if, you know, tied for dead last in the NHL with the Flames. Like, I. I know Robert Thomas has missed four games. I think he's back tonight. I don't know what the hell is going on there. Like, I did not see this coming at all.
Biz
G. I was talking to G about the outline last night and he. He got the bug in my ear. There was rumblings Cairo to Montreal in the summer. Like people do you think that maybe if.
Dan
Well, the Canadiens fans are. Do. They're doing the rumblings of like everyone to Montreal. They're so good right now. And shout out to Canadians. They haven't slowed down. Caulfield's Gonna probably get 50 this year. Demidov scored another beauty the other night, I think in ot. They. The Canadiens are electric.
Biz
Factory.
Dan
But now this turns into we're. We got some Habs fans. They've been out of the mix. They're nuts. Completely insane people. Passionate. And now all of a sudden I see Stamp. They're saying Stam coast is coming here. Poor Stammer by the way too guys playing center now.
Biz
I think he's got one point this year.
Dan
One on one goal. Just like. And I guess for St. Louis if.
Biz
Things continue as such. I mean that was a name that was getting flown around out there. I feel like he was taking a lot of strides towards like a better 200 foot game. He makes like him at 8 million is a bargoon. He is. He's like a. He's a Phil Kessel to your Stanley cup winning team, right? He's a. He's a. He's your fifth. If he's your fifth, sixth highest paid forward. He could go on an absolute run in playoffs. He had a good year last year. Felt like him and Monty were really connecting when he came over and like there was a lot of understanding. But if things continue with St. Louis, you would imagine they have to do something to rumble it up. I.
Army
The.
Biz
The Logan Mayu Zach Bullduke swap is not looking good right now.
Dan
No, that looks very bad.
Whitney
Amazing too.
Dan
So here's the thing. If the Blue. All right, the Blues are out where they're at Kyru's, it's 8.1. He's got five years after this year. He's their leading scorer right now. I mean eight points in 12 games. If they trade him, there has to be an opinion within that management that they don't love his personality or something. Because at that number why would you ever be trading him? Explain that to me.
Biz
I think that right now and I. And probably a reason why they. They traded Bul Duke is they thought that they had an influence influx of forwards and they had no demon on the depth chart. So they maybe took that swing. And listen, Logan Mayu, like he was great in the AHL and maybe with a few more years of seasoning, he turns into a great top four defenseman. I think with Tory Krug now gone and the fact that Paranco's got years left, but I don't. I think that after they moved on from Petro, he. I think they realize like, he's a, he's a three, four guy, right? And who else? They got Letty. He's not getting any younger. I do like, I like Fowler. He's a good player. Older. So they don't really have any young youth defenseman. So maybe, maybe if they were to look at the Cairo move, they're thinking we're going to get a good return because of his cap hit for how long it is. And if they don't view him as a guy that they want as a foundational piece, then that's not what they're seeing. They got Holloway up front. They have Robert Thomas. Is there anyone else you really like?
Dan
Snuggerude is really just signed, so all the way.
Whitney
Did you say Holloway?
Biz
Yeah, Holloway. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't, I don't know. But. But the reason why his name came up is because it came up this summer, before last year in the turnaround it was coming up. So it just always seems to be that name coming up. And who knows?
Whitney
It's just got to be a tough, like, especially after last year with that Winnipeg series. Like going into this year, they, they were like, okay, we're right there to make a move and just hasn't been what they wanted.
Dan
I mean, G's asking right now. He says people say Monty made a great choice going to St. Louis because they have a brighter future. Who would you rather be coaching right now or who has a better future in, in in store, the Bruins or the Blues? I still look at the Blues a little bit now. I don't know a ton about all their prospects, but I mean, Boston just, they're. They're one of my no watch teams. So. I don't know.
Army
I don't know.
Dan
But I didn't see this coming from St. Louis. I didn't. Now Thomas coming back will make a big difference. They always seem to go on some big run, right? Like last year, they had to fire their coach. Monty comes in, they go on the run. The year they won the cup, they were in last place. So maybe it's just early season. It's just, it's, it's getting, it's getting late, early. The old saying, if, if they don't figure things out here in the next month, or so I'll say that other things on here. Markstrom resigned in New Jersey. Is Pasha on here? I'm wondering how he feels about this. He'll just say amazing.
Biz
Oh, he loves you.
Army
Here's.
Biz
Here's what I don't like about. About it. I don't like the discrepancy in pay between him and oh, I'm drawing a blank.
Whitney
Jake Allen.
Biz
Jake Allen where he's making a million and a half. I feel like given sometimes like the, the health situation of Markstrom, like he's relied on just as much. You know, he's. He's a guy that gets. Has to get put in there and I don't know exactly what his numbers are compared compared to Marsham. I think that getting a starting goalie at. At a 6 million dollar tag isn't the worst thing either for a couple extra years. I like the fact that they provide Markstrom security before what I would say is the biggest. It's going to be the biggest test of his career. This New Jersey team now is hitting the start of their window just like the Leafs did a couple years ago. Is Markstrom the guy right? I feel like this is. This next three years is going to be the most pressure that he's ever faced and the biggest expectation to where they kept saying we need a starting goalie, we need a starting goalie, we need. Well, you went out and got one. Is he the guy now can Pasha the coward answer that question? Is he done his morning coffee? Because he doesn't want that type of pressure.
Dan
Oh, he has bad wi fi and no mic. So the guy is just, it's just.
Whitney
Like ever since he got this girlfriend.
Dan
He'S Barzal and us basically just. He slept through it.
Whitney
It's, it's.
Dan
It's one o' clock in Vancouver. The guy's just cuddling with his girlfriend with no mic. Watching highlights of Jack Hughes getting the his 10th goal of the year and a 41 loss to the Ducks. So Pasha could take a.
Biz
You know what? Yeah, he's probably, he's probably so lazy. He's probably soaking her on the couch right now just to soak. You know when you just leave it in there, you don't even thrust.
Whitney
Yeah.
Dan
He plays in Utah. That's a great callback to one of our guests. This show biz. I love that your guys, your one of your. I'd say your top three favorite player in the league. Kiefer Sherwood. This guy one. He. He's second goals now. He has had forget like the amount of goals. He has. He had a hat trick Thursday. A couple of them are like full on, like highlight real goals too.
Biz
He literally, he works his off like, he works, he works, he works, he works. He goes and does his own dirty work. He'll go in the corner, he'll forecheck. He plays hard defensively. Yeah, maybe he's not setting guys up, but that's because he's the Cy Young winner and he's going to score goals. And I would say that the best job on the planet right now would be being his agent because I think that they're going to have to buck up and pay him because right now he's on one of the best team friendly deals throughout the entire league. He was so last year. I think that the management group in, in Nashville should be punishing themselves for not keeping this guy around. The fact that they weren't willing to offer this guy a two, three year deal at like $2 million is crazy talk. So he couldn't even get matched at one and a half. So he goes over to Vancouver and signs a two year deal there. So he's playing on an absolute bargain deal and he's going to end up signing probably like a six times six. The way that he's playing, playing, he's the type of guy where he sets the tone night in, night out. He drags you into the fight. How can you watch that guy go over the boards and not looking up and down the bench and saying, I want to, I'm gonna go play for.
Dan
I gotta do more, I gotta do.
Biz
More, I gotta do more. And I just, that's part of the team's identity right now. I like I've said maybe the points aren't and maybe it's changed over the last week or so. But Petey, like, I think that since he's had the 100 point season, the expectation is he's going to get back to that. But his compete level is way better laying out, blocking shots. He's always been a pretty solid defensive player, but given a little bit more, I feel like Garland as an undersized guy, same thing, competes. So yeah, I love this key for Sherwood. I've been singing his praises. Jeff really turned me on to him at the beginning of last year with, with just like, you know how much he's following the Canucks. And ever since then I've been a fan and you always got to have respect for guys who bring the lunch pail night in, night out, and when they're finding the back of the net, it's and it's all coming together. It's great. And we've talked about the story before too. Like he also has like a disease or an illness where he has to wear gloves, like plastic gloves under his, his, like under his gear because he has this like skin disease where like his skin will like come off and rub off because it's like over sensitive. So dealing with like adversity in that regard and just kind of battling the odds and I just couldn't be happier for the guy. So I, I hope to one point get to talk to him and hear a story about how he battled up through the ranks and is now at, at around the age of 30, finally found like a permanent job in the NHL and soon going to be paid appropriately.
Dan
Yeah, well said. And the Canucks, man, oh my. Peterson's on pace. On pace, whatever can be ridiculous. Early he's on pace for like 50 points. Garland leads the team in scoring. He's got a point per game. And then it does not look good there. They're six and seven and it's just kind of. I don't know what the future in Vancouver holds, man.
Biz
I think, man, I, I really have a feeling that in its sucks because especially in Canada, this is amplified so much more where it's, it's, it's like the Darnell thing, the, the, the situation that PD was in at that time and the pressure that the organization at least felt was, let's sign him now. That'll relieve stress and he'll get back to playing the way that he was. Where, look, right now it. I don't know if you're ever getting that player back. I don't know if you're ever getting that. I don't know if he's ever going to play up to those capabilities. And then it, it's always going to be the conversation year over year over year. And I believe this is the first year that he's making 11 and a half. So I don't know. I don't know what, what the future holds, but I do really respect the way that he, how hard he's playing and I, I think that, that he.
Whitney
Leads the league in block shots for forwards, which means he's bought in at least that Respect.
Biz
Respect.
Dan
There's been a lot of. There's been a lot of discussion that it was all Merle's fault. Since he started the rumor he was going to the Blackhawks. It's. He's never been the same. So something else Merle's created right there, just drama that. That Elias Patterson did not need. We gotta shout out the gargoyles. They got their first dub of the season. I believe they won two games in a row. Correct. Is that. Yeah, two wins over. How do I say that? Toa river to river. Not exactly sure. But the gargoyles are buzzing. Biz, you have peing coming out somewhat soon. Can you give us an. I'm very excited for this because we talked to you. Remember that night we talked.
Logan Cooley
Oh, wow.
Dan
That's a hell of a image right there.
Whitney
Unbelievable biz. It looks like it should be on.
Biz
Like a like postcard maybe. A postcard. Well, first of all, thank you guys for your support. Means the world world. And I know you guys are both huge fans of Donnie, Corey and then now Tyler who we've added to the mix and appreciate even the guys behind the scenes because it's those, those three guys and then there's a couple extra guys who are helping edit it. So much footage to go over. And we were supposed to release them like a couple weeks if not close to a month apart to allow people to absorb them because they're an hour long each. The plan was, is we were going to drop it on the way Wednesday, but Internet Invitational originally dropped on that Monday, got bumped back to Tuesday because of the passing of Beef and just with how much popularity it's gained and of course with. With Beef passing like we didn't want to really take away from its moment and, and you know, barstool foreplay guys Bob Doves have put. Put so much energy into that for it to be what it's not only become already, but if you guys keep watching like you're gonna be blown away how. By how it all ends up shaking out. So we just wanted to let that breathe and, and you know we went, we talked about it last podcast, the fact that like Beef Pass and then he ends up being the guy to tee off first. It just, it really feels like this, this, this golf tournament that they set up is just a really special thing that the company has done. So we just figured let's back it up and, and everybody can enjoy it. And it's actually going to happen back to back weeks. So we're going to release the first way first one Wednesday, November 19th and then actually the following Tuesday, the 25th. And I've already seen the full edit on episode one. Absolutely love it. Episode two is even more jam packed and we have that really emotional twist and ending on. On our, our first season. So just very grateful to be associated with those guys. And got gotten. Haven't to go live that. And, you know, sometimes when you go and do things like that, guys, it puts a lot into perspective. And hiking and that trip in general just really hit home for me. And it was something that I really needed to fill up my soul. And I really hope that people enjoy it. And. And it. And it. And it. People who might not hike or have done it before or been passionate about it. Maybe it's something that you're introduced to and you do because you watch this and you're like, ah, maybe that's something. Something I would enjoy. And you go and fulfill it in. In that regard. So. As well as, like the outdoors in general, whether it's, you know, fly fishing, fishing on a boat, just getting outside and really living. So we hope that it. You guys enjoy it. Go touch some grass, baby. I don't do it enough. I wish I did it even more.
Dan
So how is G Seen it already?
Biz
I sent G the first cut of the first episode, so if you guys.
Dan
Like to see that, I would love to see that.
Biz
I think I sent it to the group chat that you're in. It's UG and Yan's have gotten.
Whitney
I remember asking for it, but I don't remember getting it.
Dan
Yeah.
Biz
G, correct me if I'm wrong, I think it was sent to that chat.
Ryan Reaves
Yeah, he put it in that chat. And I'll be honest, like, not just pumping his tires.
Logan Cooley
It's one of the best things I ever seen.
Army
It's got, like, funny humor drama. Like, they're not just hiking too. They're doing tons of different. At least in the first episode. So it's like I. I give it to Cornelli Guarantee it's.
Biz
It's GG Special.
Dan
Okay. The X Factor. The X Factor special.
Biz
Let's go.
Dan
It is pretty impressive that you. That you. You were just late with Brazo. The guy's just lighting it up in Pittsburgh. So you knew you were just early.
Army
You were pac. I know. Pack.
Biz
Well, the Leafs just signed Tyler Johnson.
Whitney
No way.
Biz
Yeah. Pto.
Logan Cooley
Wow.
Biz
Let's go, baby. No, but I think you guys will really enjoy it and appreciate you guys if you. If you have the time to go check it out. And Donnie does a lot of other amazing things with the company, whether it's live streams. He just did one with one with Roan where they went through New York City to all the way from, like, downtown to the Bronx or something like that. So he's done that one video that where he goes and sees the underground city in Vegas, that thing's got close to 30 million views. So it's gonna launch on Wontons, the WantOn Dawn YouTube channel. So appreciate you guys for bringing that up and showing support. And that's all I gotta say.
Dan
All right, what else is there? G? Anything else?
Biz
Monday night prime tonight, Sidney Crosby in Toronto sold out building. I'm going to be in attendance with Canadian Oldie. He's actually at the hotel in the lobby right now with memes. And I'm sending Oldie to give the boys hat and knuckles on the way out to the ice tonight. And they're gonna put him on Amazon Prime. We're gonna get. Listen, you guys want to. On Toronto and the fact that we can't bring a championship home. Well, I'll tell you what, that loss to the LA Dodgers ain't stopping us. We're gonna get.
Whitney
Season starts now. What season starts now.
Biz
It starts right now. It's our year. If you don't believe, get the out of my face. I don't give a flying if you don't believe, because I do. Aldi does. Even though Dale's a Red Wings fan, he's on the. He's on the wagon.
Dan
I mean, the clip of Oldie being told outside the stadium that there had been a home run hit and the game was then tied was so classic because most people be like, what? And he's like, a lot of ball game left. Let's go, boys. W Still out there. Like, it didn't even. I'm like, you know that he just told him it's tied. You were too.
Biz
We have the clip.
Dan
I don't know. I saw it on. I don't even know if it was like our feed. It was just like popped up on Twitter. This, this, this Blue Jays fan was just informed as he's listening to the game over the loudspeaker that the. It's tied up from a RO reporter biz. You couldn't even get him.
Whitney
You couldn't even get him into the arena.
Dan
He gave Biz his ticket.
Biz
Wait, I'm getting a message from Jeff telling me that that peing actually starts on. On different dates now. Jesus Christ.
Dan
How was Tom Greens?
Biz
Tom? I got hay fever from bailing hay. That's why I'm all stuffed up here. It sounds like I've been doing. Doing wolf for four days. Let me. Let me. Let me clarify this because I'm pretty sure the Wonton.
Whitney
Video, the video of Biz bailing hay looks like such a city slicker trying to be.
Logan Cooley
Look at this.
Whitney
Like, what is. Oh, yeah.
Ryan Reaves
All right.
Whitney
Like, talk.
Dan
I love you. Got that the turtleneck on the farm going like he looks so out of.
Whitney
Place, like he was on the power play back in the day.
Dan
Goes. He's got his Rolex on. Yeah.
Biz
It's a Submariner. You're supposed to. It's a diving watch that you could put that thing to work.
Whitney
Yeah. Dive in the hay.
Biz
Yeah. I'm trying to call the wanton right now. I'm getting. I hearted Wonton sent me. He goes Wednesday, November 19th and Tuesday, November 25th. And I hearted it. But if you think it's best to completely avoid.
Dan
Either way, I'll tell you what. This, this mental pretzel you're in is a bad sign for the Leafs. Going up against Crosby tonight. You're going to be in the building and it is amazing, it truly is amazing that the Pittsburgh Penguins draft you and give you a start in the NHL. You never sniff playing for the Leafs besides this waiver claim that we've heard about. And you're in attendance tonight just rooting against your Canadian captain and the team that started your whole life. So if Mario, he wore the jacket.
Whitney
To morning skate and shoved it in their face.
Biz
If Mario Lemieux would have went to lunch with me. I was there as an 18 year old in training camp when I invited him. Then, then I would have when I invited him.
Whitney
And I.
Dan
He did. He said, hey, Lamux, want to go to lunch?
Biz
And he had a tea time. He had more important things. Well, guess what? The Leafs, they've made me feel like I'm part of the family.
Whitney
Speaking of Mario and Ace, did we talk about the Ace here?
Biz
Okay, so we never talked about the Coupe interview. Interview.
Dan
Thought about that firing Coop came off fire. I'll tell you. I don't know, Anson Carter and maybe it's just I'm reading body language. He looked pissed.
Whitney
Yep.
Biz
I. I don't know if he looked pissed. I actually love the nickname. I think he should just be like, I called my self Ace. I don't give a. I. I love it.
Dan
Yeah.
Biz
I might start calling myself the Great one when Wayne's not around. I don't get why not. We should all be more. We should. It's all about how you talk to yourself and how you, you know, you.
Dan
Should just be like the gross one. Like that could be yours. Yeah, I'm the gross one.
Biz
Hey, I was right.
Dan
Guns. And who was laughing in the background.
Biz
When that was Jackie Redmond. Oh, how about, hey, did you like my answer with I had your back and yours too, Yance.
Dan
You did you.
Whitney
What was it?
Biz
He goes, he goes, he goes. Would the the podcast be least affected by wits or how do you. How did he structure the. The question Would the podcast be more affected or less affected with wits absence or yours? And I said with mine. I said I'm a fourth line podcaster.
Dan
I think it's all even. I think if we're all. If you lose one, we lose all boys. That's.
Biz
That's world team. Exactly.
Dan
It's how this thing rolls you. We can't do it without all of us. And I'm not even talking about just us three. All the behind the scenes guys except for Pasha. All of us need to be present.
Biz
Berta, Nick G. Fishy, Memesy Jeff, army, wizard of Oz. He doesn't even like to be mentioned but we kind of mentioned him once in a while. Too bad. So even though he's wrong about the date that the. So I was right. November 19th and 25th peaking or coming out Wednesday, November 19th and Tuesday, November 25th. So that's it. I got the right dates. And Coupe, how about him flipping the script on us and asking us all questions like he, he, he took the reins there and just not to mention.
Dan
He owed you a little bit of a thank you because when we had him on a few weeks back in New York he was down in the dumps. First thing he said when we came on what's up Coupe? Everyone in the standings but us. Five in a row. And that's a little bit of a Chicklets bump because we, we got the Chicklets dump a lot. Where we really ruined winning streaks and careers and lives. But that was a chick. That was a Chicklets bump for the Lightning because they're ripping now.
Biz
You think after he was done with all the questions and chirping the guys I said he's won three in a row. He's getting a little cocky now. He was he. We weren't even allowed to put shoe laces in his shoes a week ago and now he's just ripping us all on air chirping our nicknames. Coop.
Dan
All right. Awesome show. Awesome catch up with you guys. Go Penguins and biz. I. I appreciate you making time for us today in your busy schedule, buddy. Go crush it tonight.
Biz
Big Leafs win. Check me and Oldie and Mimzy out on the pre show with Ryan Leslie. That's done at Real sports. We'll be on at 6:30. That's when it kicks off. And then the Amazon on Prime Mondays, guys.
Dan
And Mayday, right?
Biz
Maydays. Yeah, Maydays with Ryan Leslie. If you have Amazon prime, you get this for free. And another cool thing is Ken Miller, one of the gentlemen who's like, one of the top dogs at Amazon and. And has, like, helped secure Hockey with Amazon. 45 minutes before the broadcast start, they start streaming it. So if you're like a hardcore hockey fan and you want something that's a little bit therapeutic, they air warm ups and they don't have any commentating on it. So you can listen to the guys stick handling the pucks, hitting the crossbar. They. They change the camera angles. You could see the goalies warming up. And I found myself before the first game we did when it was Leafs, a Red Wings, where I had my headset on and I was just zoned in for 10 minutes watching these guys, like, zip pucks around and stuff. So pretty cool thing where, like, if you're that hardcore of a hockey fan and maybe you got a little time before the game, throw the streaming service on and. And watch. I found it, like, especially if you have kids and you got. Oh, oh, do I have a special surprise at the door.
Whitney
I mean, that's only available in Canada right now, right? Yeah, Amazon.
Army
Yeah.
Dan
Yeah.
Biz
Oh, look at who showed up here, baby.
Army
Busy, busy.
Biz
The Leafs are gonna be sucking on the teeth tonight.
Dan
Hey, seriously, sign this off. I'm gonna. Revo's never gonna sleep again.
Whitney
Holy.
Dan
See you guys. Breast cancer awareness, end of the. End of the month. It's sold. We got stored up. Marshalsports.com biz just licked all these nipples on tonight, boys.
Whitney
Sticker on the bottom of his boo.
Biz
We're gonna be Max bet on the penguins, baby.
Dan
Max bet on the penguins.
Biz
We're gonna be sucked from the mother's teeth tonight.
Dan
All right, bye. Bye. Please sign this thing off right now. G.
Ryan Reaves
Happen.
Whitney
Won't happen, won't happen again.
Biz
Won't happen, won't happen, won't happen again.
Date: November 3, 2025
Hosts: Ryan Whitney, Paul Bissonnette ("Biz"), Rear Admiral ("RA"), Mike Grinnell ("G"), with guests Logan Cooley & Ryan Reaves
This episode blends classic Spittin’ Chiclets: deep-dives on the NHL’s biggest storylines with candid takes, vivid locker room details, and appearances by two major guests. The crew goes in on the heartbreak of Toronto’s World Series loss, previews surging NHL teams, spotlights emerging stars, and welcomes Logan Cooley (fresh off a new contract) and Ryan Reaves (the league’s perennial enforcer) for raw, hilarious interviews.
Toronto's World Series Heartbreak:
Biz and the crew dissect the city’s latest sports agony, analyzing the Blue Jays’ Game 7 collapse versus the Dodgers, the viral reaction across Canada, and the “curse” accusations swirling around Biz.
Emerging NHL Storylines:
The Penguins’ surprising hot start, the development of young stars like Logan Cooley, and trade rumors across the league (notably involving the St. Louis Blues).
Interviews:
Classic Chiclets Locker Room Banter:
The guys riff on coaching changes, the mental game, evolving training techniques, and the realities of life on and off the ice.
If you missed the episode:
Skip the ads and banter — this is Spittin’ Chiclets at its bold, rowdy best.