Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 594: Featuring Rick Nash

Summary

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Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 594: Featuring Rick Nash

Date: November 7, 2025
Hosts: Ryan Whitney, Paul “Biz Nasty” Bissonnette, Rear Admiral (RA), Keith Yandle, Mike Grinnell
Guest: Rick Nash (Retired NHL All-Star, Columbus Blue Jackets Director of Hockey Ops)

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Episode Overview

This episode brings NHL legend Rick Nash to the Chiclets crew for a candid, insightful conversation spanning his hockey journey from Brampton to the NHL, Olympic gold, and his current front office role. The group also dives deep into hot NHL storylines, legendary milestones like Ovechkin’s 900th goal, blown leads, Hall of Fame talk, and gives their unique banter and opinions on teams, players, and life around the rink.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Opening Banter & Introductions (01:05–13:00)

• The crew celebrates landing Rick Nash as a guest, with Keith Yandle calling him one of his all-time favorite teammates.
• The guys share memories, locker room dynamics, and discuss personality types and humor in NHL rooms.
• Notable Quote:
  "I think people who think they're boring because they don't have crazy stories don't understand how much people want to hear about their careers, especially a guy like him."
  —Biz Nasty (02:57)

2. NHL Hot Topics & Recent Games

a. Leafs & Oilers’ Blown Leads (06:03–11:27)

• Biz and Yancey trade jabs about blown multi-goal leads, specifically Toronto and Edmonton.
• Discussion on team overreactions, fan Twitter, and slow starts.

b. Ovechkin’s 900th Goal (13:02–17:31)

• Celebration of Ovi’s milestone and the famed goal’s “Ovi-esque” style.
• Jokes about his notorious “hockey diet.”
• Notable Quote:
  "If you played 20 years in the NHL with 20 forty-goal seasons, you’d still be 100 away from Ovi."
  —Yancey (14:40)

c. St. Louis Blues’ Struggles & Roster Decisions (18:54–26:00)

• Concern over Jake Bennington’s status, defensive play, and healthy scratching of Kyrou.
• Riffs about players' emotional investment and trade rumors.

d. Rangers’ Offensive Woes & Rebuild Talk (28:13–32:36)

• Rangers struggling to score at home.
• Debates about the possibility of a rebuild and trade candidates.
• Humorous speculation about superstitions (team-wide shaved heads) for luck.

e. Montreal & Anaheim Young Guns (33:36–37:54)

• Zegras’s shootout dominance for Philly, Demidov’s offensive explosion in Montreal.
• Cutter Gauthier’s hat trick in Anaheim, discussions on his Olympic team chances.

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3. Interview: Rick Nash (55:08–107:03)

a. Early Years & Coming Up (56:08–62:02)

• Nash recounts his love for hockey from childhood; the importance of self-driven passion.
• Anecdotes of youth tournaments, the Redline Report, and personal motivation.

b. Junior to Pro Transition (64:13–69:23)

• Experiences joining London Knights as a 16-year-old; adapting to leaving home.
• On being the 1st overall pick and joining a fledgling Columbus market.

c. Nash’s NHL Arrival & Columbus Years (72:38–87:21)

• Navigating the new hockey market in Columbus: “growing the game” and community outreach.
• The thrill and challenges of being a young face of a franchise.
• Early teammates, he mentions Ray Whitney and Andrew Cassels as mentors.

d. Evolving as a Player—Coaching Influence (79:22–81:12)

• Candid about needing to learn the defensive game:
  • "Hitch grabbed me in Denver and said, 'Do you want to be a great goal scorer or a great player?'”
  • Credits Ken Hitchcock with rounding out his game (PK, shutdown roles).

e. Olympics & Gold Medals (88:56–92:47)

• Vivid memories from Team Canada ('06, '10, '14) and Vancouver’s home-ice gold:
  • "I don't know what would have happened if we didn’t win anything other than gold in Vancouver."

f. New York Rangers Chapter (92:47–96:12)

• The culture shock of leaving Columbus for MSG and Original Six atmosphere.
• Heaps praise on Yandle as a world-class teammate:
  • "He is truly one of the best teammates I’ve ever played with, one of the funniest..." (93:08)

g. Retirement: Concussions & Life After (97:29–99:05)

• Open about the cumulative effect of concussions.
• Decision process: “I was cleared to play, but I just thought, after 15-16 years and a young family… how bad is the next one going to be?”

h. All-Time Great Nash Goals & Legacy (99:05–101:59)

• Nostalgic for his iconic goal against Coyotes with 20 seconds left:
  • “It was such a basic inside-out move, I couldn’t believe it worked the first and second time.”
• On teammates: Fedorov (“amazing”), Nash also singles out some under-the-radar “most skilled” players.

i. Columbus Blue Jackets Today & Family (102:08–103:37)

• Role in player development, NCAA scouting, and being an engaged “hockey dad.”
• Touching remarks on the late Matiss Kivlenieks’ legacy and Columbus’s family atmosphere.

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4. Hockey Hall of Fame & Current NHL Talk (108:47–122:14)

• Nash’s Hall of Fame candidacy debated; Tavares’ 500+ goals discussed for Hall credentials.
• Shout outs to legends: Zdeno Chara, Duncan Keith, Mogilny, Joe Thornton, and the induction of several key women in hockey.
• Notable Quote:
  "I can't believe Don Cherry's not in the Hall of Fame. What are we doing here?"
  —Biz Nasty (148:51)

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5. Pop Culture: Mount Rushmore of TV Shows (131:56–146:49)

• RA gives his TV Hall of Fame:
  • The Wire (133:46),
  • The Sopranos (135:27),
  • Cheers (140:33),
  • Breaking Bad (142:48).

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6. Closing: AHL Hall of Fame, RA’s Picks, and Final Notes (151:08–end)

• Shoutout: Chris Bourque’s AHL Hall of Fame induction, described as possibly the best high school player in MA history.
• RA’s betting picks for NHL and NFL.
• Reminder of breast cancer awareness merch drive.
• End of episode thanks and appreciation to listeners, Rick Nash, and the whole crew.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Biz Nasty, on Ovechkin’s 900th: "Just put that on the quote card: This is fucking fucked." (15:37)
• Keith Yandle, on 900 goals: "If you added up all my practices, pregame skates, games…I don’t think I’m even close to 900 goals." (14:10)
• Rick Nash, on leadership: "Check your ego at the door. It doesn’t matter if you’re the best goal scorer—you're going to have to do whatever it takes, whatever we ask you to do to win a gold medal." (91:06)
• On Nash's iconic Coyotes goal: “It was amazing how it worked out…such a basic inside out move that I couldn’t believe it worked the first time, and then it worked the second…” (99:27)
• On Ken Hitchcock’s coaching: “He grabbed me getting off the plane and said, 'Do you want to be a great goal scorer or a great player in this league?'” (79:24)
• On Hank Lundqvist as a teammate: "He’d be pissed off at you if you scored on him at practice… there’s a reason why he’s in the Hall of Fame.” (97:09)
• On transitioning to a non-star role at Olympics: “In Sochi, I wasn’t used in an offensive motor, even on the power play. I was used in a defensive role and PK.” (81:12)
• Post-retirement perspective: “I wanted to be able to throw a ball with the kids, coach both their teams now.” (98:42)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro, banter, Rick Nash arrival: 02:29–03:58
• Ovechkin’s 900th goal: 13:02–17:31
• Bennington, Blues talk: 18:54–26:00
• Rangers’ struggles & rebuild?: 28:13–32:36
• Montreal & Anaheim prospects: 33:36–37:54
• Interview: Rick Nash full: 55:08–107:03
• Nash on growing up, juniors: 56:08–69:23
• Olympics/Team Canada: 88:56–92:47
• Retirement & concussions: 97:29–99:05
• Iconic goal & legacy: 99:05–101:59
• On Nash’s Hall of Fame case/JT's 500: 108:47–112:07
• Hall of Fame classes, stories: 121:11–131:07
• RA’s Mount Rushmore TV: 131:56–146:49
• RA’s picks & closing awards: 148:49–153:44

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Summary by Tone

Throughout, the episode is irreverent and funny with honest, at times vulnerable, reflections on hockey’s pressures, locker room chemistry, and off-ice life. Rick Nash is modest, earnest, and insightful, with the Chiclets crew mixing deep hockey knowledge with their signature banter, hyperbole, and inside jokes.

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For Listeners

This episode delivers on all fronts—hockey nostalgia, X’s and O’s, wild stories (and celebrations), and sharp insights from one of modern hockey’s elite, Rick Nash. Whether you’re an old-school fan or a younger junkie, the episode’s blend of NHL takes, old stories, and offbeat humor make it worth the download—especially for those who appreciate the human stories behind hockey greatness.

Transcript

[Ra]

Hey, Spit and Chiclets listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Biz Nasty]

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[Ra]

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[Yancey]

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[Ra]

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[Biz Nasty]

Do you plead guilty or not guilty?

[Yancey]

Schulte.

[Ra]

Order. Order.

[Biz Nasty]

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[Ra]

It houses the Nazi high command.

[Yancey]

I'm gonna put Hermann Goering on trial.

[Ra]

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[Biz Nasty]

Do you plead guilty or not guilty?

[Ra]

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[Yancey]

I brought it towards the Coyotes and I asked them if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chicklets podcast full time.

[Biz Nasty]

Ryan Whitney's got a pink Whitney out there now.

[Rick Nash]

Sandbagger.

[Yancey]

Get that on camera.

[Biz Nasty]

Keith Yandel, the Sonk man. Kate is a full time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris.

[Keith Yandle]

Whoa, we're buzzing right now.

[Biz Nasty]

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[Yancey]

What a guest we got lined up today. Thank you.

[Biz Nasty]

Keith got us Nasher.

[Yancey]

I never thought we'd get him, boys.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, we saw him. We mentioned this quickly in the article. Yeah, Keith's got the London Knights old school Rick Nash jersey on for anyone not watching on video. We ran into him at the draft. He works for the Blue Jackets in Nashville a few years back and just having a couple beers, just shooting the shit. I said. What about coming to the party? Nah, it's not really my style. I'm kind of a boring guy. I think people who, who think they're boring because they don't have like these crazy stories. They don't understand how much people want to hear about their careers, especially a guy like him. Two gold medals, first overall pick, won the rocket. Richard. So it's great. It's great. It was great to have him on. We just did it. It was awesome. He wasn't boring at all. And Keith, thank you very much.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, of course. He's just one of those guys, like, he doesn't say anything in the locker room, but he is watching everybody. You know that type biz where it's like nothing.

[Yancey]

Never said nothing.

[Keith Yandle]

No, he was a quiet dude. Like, especially on game day, he was very quiet. Like he'd come over, drop a couple jokes and giggle to himself and then go back. Like he, he was honestly one of my all time favorite favorite teammates. And I, I love the guy, but. Yeah, but his. You can see why he works for a team because just like his awareness of the room and what a room needs and, and you know what guys gel together and, and especially with drafting and all that stuff. So Columbus. Columbus is in good hands with him working with the team.

[Biz Nasty]

It's basically the exact opposite of us, right?

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

And, and I mean, you know, you hear the old like, hey, you got two ears, you got one mouth. Probably do double the listen and talk it for me. I basically have four years, so I never listened to that though. You know, I was a talker. Biz, you were a talker. Yance, you always. I mean, fighting team.

[Yancey]

Like every. Every morning I would be coming in the room and I'd be telling some like, donkey story. And then afterward it would be. Yans and donor would just be laughing at you. He wouldn't really chime in. Like, who else would carve me? I think Okie would join in. He would.

[Keith Yandle]

One of my favorites.

[Yancey]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Biz Nasty]

He's funny, dude. He is just.

[Keith Yandle]

He would torture.

[Yancey]

Oh, buddy. He and he. He would get on the mic at our. Our, like Halloween parties and. No, no, no, no. Okie.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, oh, sorry, sorry.

[Yancey]

Step was the guy kind of under the breath stuff that was like, oh, yeah. Light years ahead of where I'm.

[Biz Nasty]

You know who reminds me? Scuderi and Stepney kind of similar. Very dry. Yeah, right. They just say a comment. They wouldn't smile, but it'd be hilarious.

[Yancey]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

But yeah, Nasher's awesome and he ends.

[Yancey]

Up bringing up oldie. That's why he likes having the funny guys around. He gets the you when you're that cool and you score that many goals and you're like a phenom in hockey. Like, guys just want to be around you, so they're willing to provide that energy just so he can be constantly entertained. Right. So we're used to.

[Keith Yandle]

You got. When you got a text from Nasher to go to dinner or go for a beer on the road, it was.

[Yancey]

I would have let him dog walk me.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, I missed the birth of one of my kids to go to dinner with him.

[Biz Nasty]

It is true. Biz about, like, the, the superstars, like, you just want to be around them. Like, I remember. And Merls will say the same thing. Army, like, if we can just make Sid laugh, like, we'll always be here. And, like, we all made him laugh at different times, and we all got shipped out of town. So as much as you want to think that's the case, at some point, poor play and maybe having the chance to get a Chris Kunitz type, we'll get the funny guy out of the room. And that's what happened.

[Yancey]

But, yeah, yeah, you got to win.

[Biz Nasty]

Games and you got to win and you got to win hockey games and you got to show up and, and biz. I, I. You owned me Tuesday, Monday night, just absolutely own me. I mean, I've never take, I've taken L after L after capital L in my life, especially my Internet life. And for the Leafs to be down 3.0after the second with eight shots on net against Pittsburgh and the Oilers to be leading 2 nothing early in St. Louis. I'm loving life and I'm sending out the tweet. Wow. I'm shocked that the Leafs would only have eight shots of me losing three nothing at home with Biz Nasty in the building.

[Yancey]

Buddy, I was in bricks when you said that, but I was. When they scored the first one in the third, I was like, I'm going to fire off a tweet. And I said, no, you got to have discipline. And once you do that, you'll probably mush them. So just fucking let it play out. And sure enough, boom, another one. Another one. They tie it up. I really wanted to fire one off after the tire, and then I didn't. And then they scored again. I was like, motherfucker in regulation. So to be in the building after getting owned by you and on the, the Blue Jays loss and just how devastating that was, I was getting a lot of Drake backlash. Like, I'm the mush. And then to be in attendance for them to pull that off, and then now they got three in a row, right? So people are now sending me Tweets, we talk about the overreactions, like with that, with that multi goal blown lead by Edmonton. That's the fourth blown multi goal lead in the first 15 games, is the first time I believe it's ever happened in Oilers history. And then right now, as far as going back to last year, Leafs are at a better point per game pace, like to finish off better than they were with, with Marner. So like people try to use the martyr thing. It's like, buddy, they start off 5, 500 every year and then all of a sudden they're on a little bit of a roll. So life is good in Leafland, in biz land. I don't get a lot of. I don't get a lot of W's. All right, so I'm going to celebrate.

[Keith Yandle]

You always said season started right after the playoff game, so.

[Yancey]

So I did have oldie. He comes up a lot this episode. I brought him to the game, him and memes. So we weren't walking in like hardos like you guys saw in that coming video. Although it was fuego.

[Keith Yandle]

We saw it.

[Yancey]

That was. Tell me that wasn't fire.

[Keith Yandle]

It was good.

[Ra]

The, the.

[Biz Nasty]

The song made it nice. It was a good video.

[Keith Yandle]

It was. It was amazing.

[Yancey]

The song on it.

[Biz Nasty]

I kind of wish you guys all had dead serious faces looking forward at the same time, like you were laughing, kind of turning around. I wasn't laughing.

[Yancey]

I looked at him, I said, are you boys ready?

[Biz Nasty]

I thought you were ready. I thought you were smiling. Okay, okay.

[Yancey]

No, I wouldn't smile. I'm saying, you fucking ready to go, buddy? We need two points tonight. You bring in your and. But originally we wanted.

[Keith Yandle]

I never wanted a team to lose so bad.

[Biz Nasty]

If you could read me and Yan's text during that.

[Yancey]

Read them right now. You guys are getting me fired up this fucking early. I thought I was going to stay calm. I fucking know you guys are plotting my death, you motherfuckers. And when they won that fucking game and then they beat Utah, which is a fuck. Utah is rolling right now.

[Keith Yandle]

Yep.

[Yancey]

Read it, motherfucker.

[Biz Nasty]

I said, he wrote fuck. I wrote fuck. Fuck, fuck. He wrote the fucking Penguins. He wrote the fucking Penguins. I said, I'm so mad right now I could puke. He said, I'm so furious. I said, I cannot believe the Leafs won that game.

[Keith Yandle]

He.

[Biz Nasty]

He's going to be miserable to deal with Thursday. And like seven minutes after I sent that text, whenever it was the Oilers get scored on in. I mean the Bouchard on the winning goal against the Blues who suck. The blues suck.

[Yancey]

Make sure you gift this.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, they, they, like, he literally got out of the way. And then I think it's P is suitor. He bangs in the rebound. So they lose in regulation and I'm like, and that fucking Oilers lost. So it was just, you know, I went to bed, I, I tweeted something like, I'll be back tomorrow. Like, I gotta regroup. I was in bed staring at the ceiling, like, muttering to myself, Biz fucking nasty.

[Yancey]

Who's that? I think this, I think the streets are starting to call him Bacardi Bush is the name he's got right? Is that, is that.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, here's a worry for the Oilers. And, and, and we're kind of just quickly going around what's going on.

[Yancey]

You just completely dodge what I said. Are they not calling him Bacardi Bouche?

[Biz Nasty]

I haven't seen Bacardi Bush anywhere. I don't mind it though. Like, win or lose, you booze. Yeah, you just made that up. Bacardi Bouche. But the Oilers are, defensively, it's a little bit of a disaster. Like the Pasha under the hood stats of like 5 on 5 chances. They're like very, very, very bad. So, you know, I'm zero panic. Very similar to the Leafs. Always start off bad, start off slow. No panic at all.

[Yancey]

Speak for yourself, please. We're good. Like speaking.

[Biz Nasty]

Did you just say you start off every year 500?

[Yancey]

Yeah. Conference is fucking 500.

[Biz Nasty]

I, I, I, I'm saying that you just said we start off every year 500. I said the same thing about the Oilers.

[Yancey]

It's okay. I thought you were being a little.

[Biz Nasty]

There was no coming at you there. It was just, it's, I thought you used different verbiage.

[Yancey]

Okay.

[Biz Nasty]

I actually think, I actually think we're even usually worse than 500 to start off the year. So no panic, but just an ugly, ugly Monday night for your B.O. it and Keith, you know, Keith who, who despises Toronto the same way I do if donor didn't work there.

[Yancey]

Hey, we're not just gonna glaze by Keith like the, he ride, he dick rides. He fucking twerks for it or what? What do they, you jump on it and, and, and do your tricks on it for the Florida Panthers.

[Biz Nasty]

They're, yeah, they suck too.

[Yancey]

Eastern Conference, they're last, but I think.

[Keith Yandle]

Everybody knew that was coming. I, I, I mean, they're missing their two best players. Cool. A car. Like, things aren't going great down in South Florida, but, you know, maybe I got to show up with memes and fucking oldie to a game to get the boys going in season as much as I can.

[Yancey]

Hey, no, no. You should be testing your fandom powers and you should go, go bang the drum.

[Rick Nash]

Go see if you can get them on.

[Keith Yandle]

I don't do. I don't do regular season drum banging. I'm a playoff get when we need a win, you need a win. You come to the Bull regular season, eh? You're like, just like the Panthers.

[Yancey]

What do you want fucking ltir like Mark Stone all the time. You don't play regular season hockey. You only pick playoffs.

[Keith Yandle]

All right.

[Biz Nasty]

Hey, the worst thing about it, in talking about our three teams, I'm as. I am less worried about the Panthers than both of our teams because that's what really sucks. Like, it doesn't, it literally doesn't matter. Like if they're last place January 20th, I still might be like, I'm not that worried. So I don't know. I, I love seeing it right now. I love seeing it. But it's the Panthers and come playoff hockey and if, If Barkov comes back, it's could be same old story that we've. We've been used to the past two seasons.

[Yancey]

You know who could be dead last in, In. In. In January is St. Louis. But before we get to them, congrats ov on 900. Holy shit.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, my God.

[Yancey]

Oh, God. You know what, though? It was in perfect fashion. He just has a knack for the net. He gets the bank off the boards. He's probably in his head thinking, I think fucking Bennington's pretty far out of his net with the eyes that are in the back of his head and.

[Biz Nasty]

He'S thinking like, I need a subway sub right now and a Dr. Pepper. Like, we don't.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, yeah.

[Yancey]

He could have been saying, I fuck. You know what I'm doing, I'm going to get one here. I'm going to go ask the trainer for a Coca Cola. Nice. Ice cold Coca Cola on the bench. Is it Coca Cola or root beer that he drinks?

[Keith Yandle]

I thought it was dp.

[Yancey]

He probably does it all. He, you know, he's the guy who's doing the mix. You know, we call it swamp. He's crossing sauces. What the fuck does he care? Yeah, so he's got all the pops in there waiting on the bench. And another thing too. When he hits it on the backhand, it elevates it just enough to kind of get over Bennington's pad and glove and What a fucking 900 boys. Only member of the 900 Gold Club.

[Keith Yandle]

I was, I was watching the game in the, in my kids were watching and they're like, 900 goals. That seems like a lot. I'm like, yeah, like. And then I was thinking, like, if you added up all my practices, pregame skates games, like, I don't think I'm even close to 900 goals. Like scoring on a goalie in practice. Like, there's no way.

[Biz Nasty]

No, no, I'm talking summer skates. I'm talking street hockey. There was no goalie in the net. Me, I don't know if I got 900.

[Yancey]

Let's put it this way. If you played 20 years in the National Hockey League and you had 20, 40 goal seasons, you'd still be a hundred goals away from him.

[Biz Nasty]

What the. Oh, that's. That is putting it that way. Well, I was just thinking 20 years.

[Yancey]

Health just doing it when he first came in, obviously the fact that they, they changed the rules a little bit where there were more power plays.

[Ra]

Right.

[Yancey]

You couldn't clutch and grab. Like nobody wanted to watch that hockey anymore anyway. But it was still hard and competitive. Like fucking goalies. The way. How good they are nowadays, the technology, like, it's just, it's like the way the defenses play. Way more structured. Like the things against you and like boys. He was fucking throwing 12 hits a game. He was throwing fucking 12 hits in a shift sometimes. So the fact that he's even still going is just. It's is what it is.

[Biz Nasty]

That's a great way to put it. Just put that on the quote card. This is fucking fucked.

[Yancey]

It is like the way that he's kind of like eating Subway and drinking pop too. Like, he ain't doing the. He ain't doing garbage disposal.

[Biz Nasty]

He must look at. Yeah. Some of the young guys with like all these supplements and creatine and protein.

[Yancey]

He's got one on his team.

[Biz Nasty]

He's like nerd, nerd, geek. I got 900 and I've been eating trash since I was born in Moscow.

[Yancey]

Eating cheetos between periods.

[Keith Yandle]

900 Gold Carberry was cool.

[Biz Nasty]

Talking about it after. I don't know if you saw the post game. Just more like what he's doing now with like all these young guns flying around and the pace of the game and like he still just gets in positions to score. I did think it was funny. It was a very un. Ovi like goal for 900. And we haven't even mentioned.

[Yancey]

I.

[Biz Nasty]

We haven't even mentioned Bennington. It's. It's him stealing the puck, is stealing the puck. And the way he did it, just the skate away, the Chris Pronger style. He shoves it in his pants and then they're all looking for it. I'm assuming, like the bench was like, where's the goal? Where's the puck? And then the ref's going over to him and he's like, we know you have it. Like. And if Bennington ever thought he was getting away with it, it's even funnier. There's 700 cameras everywhere. He has to reach. Bound down to his pants.

[Yancey]

I think it was Liam brought it up. He, he has a, like a tinfoil hack conspiracy. He had another puck in there and he swapped it out. So Bennington actually has the 900 puck.

[Biz Nasty]

But then you're, then you're going into the game with a puck in your pants, knowing he's scoring against you. That's like not great karma, right?

[Keith Yandle]

So I don't know.

[Yancey]

For a fucking $500,000 puck, I don't give a flying. What the team can't even fucking play defense anyway. Right now I might as well give Obi one.

[Keith Yandle]

Like, yeah, that's true.

[Yancey]

You know what I'm saying?

[Biz Nasty]

But like, he just gave him like a warm up puck. Just like.

[Yancey]

So it's kind of bad karma. And it kind of goes actually back to game seven of the Jays. So did you see the guy who caught the home run ball? The Toronto Blue Jay fan? So he caught it and he celebrates quick, which is kind of funny, like, to, you know, he quickly does and then realizes, oh my God, the game's tight. He's got the fucking Toronto Blue Jays jersey. So the camera pans away. He had another ball and he swapped out the ball. So he actually still has the home run ball because you know how they make you throw it back. So he, he threw one back and everyone's like, yeah, but it wasn't the fucking home run ball.

[Biz Nasty]

Do you know the craziest part of that story?

[Keith Yandle]

Didn't his son catch.

[Biz Nasty]

His son caught the other one in extra right next to each other. That is like, that's bananas. And now, unfortunately, it wasn't their team. Imagine if like those were Jay's homers and you got those balls.

[Yancey]

Those balls would be worth. I mean, they're probably still worth a shit ton, but wow, at home.

[Keith Yandle]

Imagine bringing your glove to the game as an adult.

[Biz Nasty]

Ohtani's like, hey, want to make a bet? Let's make a bet for that ball. I think that, I think that, that Bennington had to just be furious. My. My thought was he was just disgusted. It was on him. And he's like, this crowd's going bananas.

[Yancey]

Well, they're watching too.

[Biz Nasty]

That game.

[Yancey]

They were there scouting goalies, right? Cause Logan Thompson and Bennington. So I'm not blaming Bennington. Like, St. Louis has a lot of issues. They were getting peppered. I thought he was pretty good early. Probably a few he wants back. But, like, it sucks, buddy. You go. If they go this way till the end of January and it's still the same. Like, are you. Do you think he has an automatic guarantee on the team? Bennington on the team?

[Biz Nasty]

Yes, yes, yes. I do, too.

[Yancey]

I would agree, but there's also fucking. There's also a decent amount of like. Like, Darcy Kemper's name's coming up. Mackenzie Blackwood. Aiden Hill, who's a Stanley cup champion. He was there last year. He wasn't playing, obviously. Who was the other one, too, obviously. I said, Logan Thompson. Thompson's got the best numbers in the league for goalies right now, like he. And he did last year. So if Logan Thompson keeps kicking the way he's kicking for the first half.

[Biz Nasty]

Of the year, I think story that they didn't necessarily want Cassidy, right? Guys who'd been in Vegas, like, yeah.

[Yancey]

Okay, so he had a moment in Vegas. Like, I think, like, people who follow the league closely. Like, yeah, he probably. He. Yeah, he was. He was going through some stuff and he got a new change of scenery and a completely different mindset. So, like, I think Ace kind of mentioned it on the broadcast last night. He kind of alluded to it. Like, what. You know, why is he being kind of blackballed if this is the. These are the numbers that continue. It's not. You're. You're desperate in that position. Why wouldn't you take the best one over the last year and a half if that's what the stats are showing? So, you know, at what point do you are like, have you kind of, like, what's the word I'm looking for?

[Biz Nasty]

Water under the bridge, dude.

[Yancey]

Yeah, it's like, yeah, I was. That wasn't the best version of myself. Like, I was learning. Things were coming at me quick. Now I'm kicking and I'm a good teammate and I show up every day and I'm a professional. So, hey, you gotta. It's. These are hard decisions that. That the. The Olympics have to make. But I'm just saying is, like, he would probably be a top consideration for me anyway. So you got him. Bennington well, who's your next guy? Martin bowl? Ah, he's kind of lost a starting job. So I know we kind of got in the weeds on the. On the Olympic talk and like, Bennington's night, but I think that they got way bigger fish to fry in St. Louis. That was fucking.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, yeah, dude. I think they've gotten Cairo getting scratched tonight.

[Yancey]

Cairo is a healthy scratch tonight, is what Joel Vitale said on ESPN radio or something like that.

[Biz Nasty]

And, and if you go to Carlson's goal, I mean, they had six of. Oh, I'm talking the Blues defensive play, Carlson's goal. He.

[Ra]

He.

[Biz Nasty]

He gets the puck, gets to the slot, has enough time to spin around, roof it. Nobody near him. Bolivia's goal, like, makes a little night. Beautiful fake goes to his backhand, wide open at nobody near him. And it's like, showed up Olivier also. That's who that people think put the alarm clock in Matt Barzel's locker when the Caps played the Islanders. I don't know if you saw that.

[Rick Nash]

Cause they.

[Biz Nasty]

They obviously played together in Long island, and people are kind of guessing. It might have been him. Funny prank right there. But the Blues, yeah, I. I mean, they didn't have. What's his name, the stud. I can't even think of the forward who's a. Yeah, Thomas was out for a few games. He comes back, they beat the Oilers, he scores. All right, let's see what they. What they're doing here. And then just, no. No way of building on that. Oilers win, going into Washington and just laying an egg. So I don't think anyone saw this coming. I certainly didn't. G was saying earlier he thinks Bennington kind of covered up a ton of warts last year and carried them into the playoffs. But, I mean, yeah, he was good in the first round. They still took. They had that game one, Game seven against the Jets. Enough where you think this season, like, the Blues are a legit team, maybe not a Stanley cup contender, but a playoff team. In my mind, they're not playing nearly.

[Yancey]

As hard like I remember how. Remember how hard they were forechecking those games against Winnipeg. Like, everybody wanted to watch the first 10 minutes because they were just trying to kill each other. And yeah, I'm not seeing that same effort, that same forecheck. Like, I watched that whole game like we. I know Kyru's name came up the last couple pods about, like, him being potential trade bait. I, at this point, put. I would definitely put a little bit more gas on it. Yeah, he wasn't he wasn't noticeable, so I don't know. Good for Shanner for. For jumping in there. Like, I think it was. It was Duhame who challenged Paranco at that point in the game. I think if I'm Paranco after throwing that big hit and things have been going the way they've been going, I'm the one who drops him with Duhame. Fucking Braden Shen comes sprinting over and he takes the fight. So it always seems to be Braden Shen doing it. I think a lot of guy. More guys in that locker room need to follow them, and their D is just like that. Tucker had a tough night. I've had them twice on the broadcast this year. They got beat 8, 3 by Chicago, and then they got beat, what was it, 61 last night. So they've given up 14 goals in two games that I've watched. I don't know. I don't know what their exact numbers are as far as, like, goals for and goals against, but they were giving up so much.

[Keith Yandle]

Well, that goes to show you that they were expected this year to be a good team. If they're even on the TNT broadcast twice already this year. Like, they gotta have some.

[Yancey]

But they got a big hockey market. They got a big hockey market, big time.

[Keith Yandle]

But it's not one of those things too. Like, if people like, oh, we need a quick fix, fire Monty. Like, that ain't gonna do it either. Like, Monty is same like he was in Boston. Like, if he gets fired, another team is going to take him right away. So it's. I don't think it's one of those things where it's a quick change and the coaches, like, it needs to come from within there. They got to figure out how to get.

[Rick Nash]

Get it done.

[Keith Yandle]

And, you know, you. You said it before, like, they did it and won the Stanley cup, you know, in recent memory. So they got it in there that they could hopefully turn it around. I know they got a lot of pride in that locker room. Hopefully they figure it out because when they're good, they're a fun team to watch.

[Biz Nasty]

They're very fun. And. And Neighbors being out is a kick in the dick for them. He's a drag him into the fight player. He had six goals in eight games. He gets injured. Like Neighbors, no doubt, is taking that Duhame fight, right? Like, it's just kind of a guy who, with a quick start, how he came out of the gate like that, that's a kick in the dick for that team. But the. What I said last episode about the thought of trading Kyro, this, like, elite skater, goal scorer, you know, he's just a playmaker. Like, the guy's a nice offensive piece. The thought of trading him seems crazy to me now. If that was already, like, rumored, then he's scratched. He's probably furious, right? So then it's like, there's way more to this than. Than I thought based on him being scratched. He was. Remember was it last year he was crying after one of the games, doing a press conference in the locker room?

[Yancey]

No, there was something that happened where it made it seem like he didn't give a. About a loss or something. I think it was amplified and, like, they ended up having, like, a big win and he was a big part of, like, a comeback the following game. And he got emotional, which I loved. Like, I love to see that.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Yancey]

That to me, told me everything. And I think, like, everything from the. From a fan base was exiled. And, you know, even people beforehand were saying it was ridiculous, that people were trying to make it a thing. So I don't. He just. He just goes so, like, invisible sometimes for stretches of time where you're like, you might. It's kind of like we talked about Petey. The offense might. Might not be there in Vancouver right now, but his effort level and you. Him blocking shots and him putting in the effort defensively, like, those are the things that stand out. Like, those are things you can't hang. You can't hang a guy out with a dry on just because the puck's not going in. But for me, sometimes it's more about, like, if. If you're an elite star player in the team and I go a whole game and I don't notice you. That's an issue.

[Biz Nasty]

That's a problem, yes. When you could skate like that, too.

[Yancey]

By the time the game's ending. I don't think I said Cairo's name once tonight.

[Biz Nasty]

I meant, like, with the emotion he showed last year, year before, whenever that was. And then this scratching. Like, this could be something where. It's getting to him now. Like, I need. I need a new start. Right? Like, there's just going to be a lot more discussion now based on a health bomb.

[Yancey]

They already got fleeced by them with the Bull Duke thing and the Logan Mayu swap, at least as of now. I would love to see him in Montreal like, I would with that offense.

[Biz Nasty]

Rumors ever. The cadre to Montreal thing makes so much sense to me. And, like, he scored a goal. I think it was his thousand. Was it his thousandth? Game last few nights ago. Got a goal in that game. They need. They need a two center, but everyone needs a second line center and Kadri's the one they all want, I think. And how could you not? Based on how he just gets it done in the playoffs, minus his suspensions with the Leafs. But that doesn't really. That doesn't really.

[Keith Yandle]

In his cap hit.

[Biz Nasty]

Kyru said, I've got no comments. He's not my coach anymore. When asked about Craig Barubi. Oh, that's what it was. That's what it was.

[Keith Yandle]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Biz Nasty]

When he got upset and then fans booed him the next game and he was kind of just saying, like, I think the quote was maybe taken a little out of context in his opinion. Right? Like that. I was. He wasn't dogging him. He's just saying he's not my coach. Yeah, that's what it was. That's what it was. So it wasn't even really about his.

[Yancey]

So Maya Culpa, I kind of had it wrong. I knew it was something like that. Also Maya CPA on the air. I thought. When do. I thought it was Josh Hennessy who told us the, the slaughtering of the lamb story, and I thought it was to break a, like a, like a goalless drought, but it was Kevin Dman who told us and it was to christen an arena over there.

[Ra]

So.

[Yancey]

To the New York Rangers, I know you're going through something right now, but don't be slot driving a. A goat on. On the ice just to. To get the slump buster going.

[Biz Nasty]

And am I seeing Rangers fans, like, kind of like dogging Shasturkin a little bit? It's like, buddy, oh my God. They have five goals at home against the Sharks. And I think the next six games, whatever, they have like six goals or five goals.

[Yancey]

No, no, no, no, no, no. They have six total goals in six games at msu. They are all five and one. They scored five goals against the San Jose Sharks. They have one other goal and Panera Panarin's struggling. The contract talks were rumbling a few weeks ago. I guess he wouldn't be willing to take a hometown discount. He's got two goals, five assists so far. I think three, or if not four of those points came in one game. He's gone whatever. Four or five games without a point. They got no offense at home, but keep in mind they're 500. So. But. But I watched that team and I'm like, ooh, unless Shusturkin's up top three for the Vesna boys, I don't think they're making playoffs.

[Biz Nasty]

And luckily the games Quick has played, he's been the best goalie in the league. I think it's like three games, but his numbers are insane. But Rangers fans don't talk about goaltending like that is the least of your worries. The least of your worries. So some of that just stirk and talk. Yeah. I actually saw a clip online too of our, our buddies Lazarus and Colby Cohen with Elliot Friedman who said, like, there is a zero chance of any sort of rebuild there. So it's not like you're going to be just taking a big step backwards dealing Panarin and maybe that happens. But there is no thought in New York of like starting over.

[Yancey]

You think they're smarter to rebuild now or, or try to make it work?

[Keith Yandle]

I, I, no, there's no rebuild there.

[Biz Nasty]

No. I mean they just signed a sterk and last year Fox has a big deals. Ben Jet still has many years left. Millsy Miller's their captain on that big ticket. Like, I, no, I don't. How would you. I don't, I don't even, I don't.

[Yancey]

Even think that they can fix it because of the Rangers. Like, free agency wise, not many of them, like Kempe is going to get signed. Who's going to be the biggest free agents next offseason? How are you going to improve your team?

[Biz Nasty]

Showed up to practice with a shaved head this morning. That's. That's something. That's something.

[Keith Yandle]

He's usually a monster when he shaves the noodle, Right? That's true. He came back that one year.

[Yancey]

That's what Bobrovsky does.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah.

[Yancey]

After this season, he cleanses himself. He's like, I need to rid myself of whatever this is and start fresh. So. Fuck, man, that's cr. Are you guys just fucking around or you did that.

[Biz Nasty]

Opasha could be around. Who knows.

[Keith Yandle]

But it's also too like biz and wit. Like I, you look at their team on paper, I think that they're still a playoff team just by looking at their team on paper. Like TRO is missed time. He's going to come back. But it's like, and I talked about it last time, like, they're like Pasha says, they're under the hood stats. Their defensive stats aren't bad. Like if you get them into the playoffs, that'd be a tough out. But they somehow have to find a way to score at home and they can't right now. But it, I don't think that's just one like one trade away from making that happen. Like not one guy's going to come in and be like, oh, okay, now.

[Rick Nash]

We'Re scoring here at home.

[Keith Yandle]

Like they, they, they need the slaughtering in the, in the crease biz. Like it. Or the shaved head. That could be the change of the guard right here.

[Yancey]

I just texted Paul. Oh, he said yes. So he did shave every guy, Every.

[Keith Yandle]

Guy shaved their head.

[Biz Nasty]

He needed something to change. He needed something to change.

[Yancey]

Maybe they, maybe they heard what I said about the lamb and they said, hey, like New York state law, we can't be slaughtering lambs in the crease, but let's do something as a group to like galvanize us and rid us of the. These goal troubles. So maybe if they, if they all come in with like robes and like shaved head, like they start a cult or something. No.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, a hundred percent.

[Keith Yandle]

I mean you got to try everything now if you're a lefty.

[Biz Nasty]

One of the games of, of the, the most entertaining games of the season so far. Tuesday night Flyers go up three nothing on Montreal. All of a sudden it's four. Three. Flyers tie it, then win it in the shootout. Zegras. Now things aren't great in Philly. I don't think right like. And I don't think much was expected. Zegras looks awesome, right? Zegras looks incredible. He also I think now is. Has the best percentage of in the shootout since the shootout began. He is just automatic on those.

[Yancey]

And he goes 63%.

[Biz Nasty]

Maybe super slow motion at the beginning enough where it's like awkward almost. But then comes down, picks up the stick handling berries. But that game was wild. Demi 65.2% in his career. Demidov, he's a joke in my top 5 players to watch already. I think we're looking. I'm going to keep saying like legitimate superstar in the NHL. He's right. @ a point per game, I think he's 100 point player. Not necessarily this year, but like we're looking at an absolute game breaker for the next 10 years in Montreal. I can't wait to see what his contract looks like after the season when they can sign him to an extension. So Montreal, everything's good there.

[Keith Yandle]

Whit, his. I got something for you on him. Since he's. Since he's been put on the first power play. Before he wasn't on the first power play. They were running out of 19%. Since he's been on the first power play, 53.8%.

[Biz Nasty]

How's that for a nugget and St. Louis a legend. Like same thing with not having Hudson on the first unit to start it last year. Hey, earn it a little bit, kid.

[Yancey]

All right?

[Biz Nasty]

Five games in. Yeah, that's you. And same with Demidov. Same with Dem.

[Keith Yandle]

His, his deception. Like the one pass he made to Suzuki back door and every pass that he makes to these guys backdoor the goalie's not even over. It's a complete empty net with which just proves that his deception is so good. And then when he's stick handling the goal that he scored short side was fucking insane. I thought he was still stick handle in the puck and I think the goalie did too. Next thing you know, he's in the hug giving hugs and kissing heads. It was like when he has the puck. It is the most must watch TV in the NHL right now. Like he is I know. Very, very special player.

[Biz Nasty]

I know. It's, it's, it's awesome to see in that arena. It's just it. Things are good for Canadiens fans right now. They are very good. And, and I mentioned Zegris and how he, he's been great. Right. For Philly. But Biz, you texted me. The Flyers fans watching what Cutter Gaultier is doing in Anaheim have to be sick to their stomach. I mean he gets a natural. I think he had the first three goals. They dust the Panthers 7 3. He has a hat trick. He added an assist. Talk about a release. A team that we said we had high expectations for and we keep mentioning every pod because they're not slowing down. And I, I, I just can't believe after the years off like that's where Quenville went and a decision by him. He knew exactly what he was doing. He sees the roster, he sees what Leo Carlson's going to be. He sees these young D and I media. No media. I knew Gauthier was good. I saw him at bc. I saw the release. But this is like he's got 10 goals and G mentioned. Does he ever have a chance of making the US Olympic team? Yeah, man. If he's leading the league in goals still like right around the top and too much.

[Ra]

No shit.

[Yancey]

You're taking them, right?

[Biz Nasty]

Eh, they got a lot of options up front. I'm saying it's going to be a big decision. They needed scoring come down to that final game. Right.

[Yancey]

Okay, well, I mean it's one game like the, the best in the world. The best in the world get can play defense and get defensive.

[Keith Yandle]

That's what I Was going to say, like, I don't know if you. And, you know, we talked to Rick Nash, and he mentioned it like, he was a superstar. And for those teams, he took more of a shutdown role. Like, is a young, you know, highly skilled guy like that willing to do that or able to do that? You know, where they're not going to be on the first or second line? Are they willing to play third, fourth line, you know, play against other teams?

[Yancey]

Or do they even know how to.

[Biz Nasty]

Like, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Yancey]

He's so young. It's like, hey, all of a sudden, we need you in a checking role here. He's like, well, man, I played a year and a half in the National League. Like, what are you talking about? I'm a fucking top six, baby. I'm Cutter. Fucking go, J Dog. I'm the fucking turd Cutter.

[Keith Yandle]

Mustang for a trade to Canada.

[Yancey]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

So another thing in Anaheim, I mean, right now, Jacob Trubo would be tied for second on goals for the New York Rangers. He has three. Crowder be leading the team in goals. I thought Kreider. I thought it was really coming to an end. Maybe I'm just an idiot, which is probably the case here. But, dude, this guy, his tips in front, the, The.

[Yancey]

The.

[Biz Nasty]

The smell of the ocean. Well, I guess he was in New York City. The ocean's right there, but it smells like garbage in that city. Newport beach, the. No media. Being a veteran on a young team, he looks phenomenal. And the Rangers power play, I believe, right now is the worst.

[Yancey]

Brutal. They got no net front presence. They don't. They don't cause a ruckus. He, like, he was good at the top of the crease, and he was good popping out for doing some sort of high tip. So I think that that's a huge mess. Like, I don't know why they moved off of him, but I thought that he would have success in Anaheim. And the.

[Keith Yandle]

Avery back. Bring Avery back for netfront.

[Yancey]

Something. They need something. But it wasn't a surprise to me. And he's still pretty. Like, he's fast. Straight on, right? Like, it's going straight on. He gets some steam going. He's as fast as anyone, right?

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, yeah. Loves jumping into the boards on hits. Doesn't matter if he hits the guy or the boards. It's a big old loud bang. Crowd goes nuts. And apparently, apparently we will be out there. I believe we have the chance to possibly go to the Ducks game. I guess the atmosphere and the environment in there is phenomenal. I, I came from Pittsburgh and even when we were in the playoffs, it was good in the playoffs in Anaheim. But like overall regular season games, it's like a dark arena. I didn't love playing there arena wise, but it seems like it's loud, it's full, and the fans are kind of realizing how good of a team they have there. Another story from this week was the Minnesota Nashville game that went to ot in which was it? Marcus Johansson, he was awarded a goal on a puck that never crossed the goal line. Because anun. I'm struggling today with names. The goalie in Nashville, they said he pushed the net off. I agreed with the call. I think he bumps into the net. It moves a tiny bit. Not on purpose. And then I thought his, his little shove at the post was kind of blatant. And because of that, the ref awarded the goal to Minnesota. They win in overtime. It was actually crazy because I think Stamko scored to tie it with 0.1 second left on a one timer. But did you agree with that call? Keith or Biz? Like, what did you think?

[Yancey]

So the only thing that the. When the, when the net came around because he pushed it so aggressively, if, if he would have shot the puck and it would have still been on the moorings, the puck would have ended up behind the net. But because it swung around, it hit the meshing and came back to him. And then he put it in between where the net would have been. So the fact that it was knocked around benefited him. The fact that puck came back.

[Keith Yandle]

The rebound.

[Yancey]

Yeah, but I get it because it's like also it's. It's hard because if, if over the course of the game he had done it a few times and then it's like, ah, okay. Because sometimes there's certain games where you get a bad mooring and like every time you're pushing off of that one, it's coming off and maybe eventually the team, the ref, the home crowd get fed up. So it kind of wears on the game. So it seemed like they like in real time, they ruled like, nah, dude, like you were fucking. You were going to slide out of position. You knocked the net off on purpose. So we gave him the goal. I have no problem with it being a goal. But for the other team, if he hadn't knocked it off all game long and the fact that that net bounced the puck back to him to give him the puck, I would then be pissed. Do you know what I'm saying, Yance?

[Rick Nash]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

And I, I just, I think it's such a heads up play by Johansson where it's like you, you taught as a kid, don't stop till you hear the whistle. And he did that and got rewarded with it. I thought originally it was a like I thought he just tried to push over and it came off maybe a faulty morning or whatever. But I do kind of agree with you guys where he did do that extra push to get it off. Maybe thought he was out of position. Weird one for sure. Stammer stammers quotes at the end he was not happy. But I mean anytime a goal scored when the goal is literally not in.

[Biz Nasty]

The fucking facing the wrong way.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

It's not even on the ice.

[Biz Nasty]

Basically players on the ice were like dumbfounded.

[Yancey]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

I mean but just credit to him for sticking with it and putting it in and playing to the whistle, I guess.

[Biz Nasty]

Another thing I did want to mention because I, I, I saw the highlights this morning. You know that you can go on, you can go on YouTube or NHL.com the 5 minute to 10 minute game recaps are great. They're awesome. The assist that Bedard had on Bertuzzi's second goal, I believe. Incredible pass. It was the same thing Bertuzzi did on the first one. He just, it's Sid style, just getting against that post, choking down on your stick and banging it home. And then Bedard adds an empty netter for his first goal in Vancouver. The Blackhawks are fun dude. I know Barstool chief's an enormous fan. He loves this team. Kind of what we talked about before, just giving the fans something, something to be proud about. Whether you win or lose, that is what they're doing. And I forgot to mention last show the numbers that came out after 161 games in their career. Patrick Kane vs Connor Bedard is wild. It's wild because the heat that Bedard has taken and I have been one of those people compared to the way we spoke about Kane as he came into the league has been very different. And through 161 games, Bedard has 51 goals, Kane had 46, Bedard has 91 assists, Kane had 95. So Bedard has 142 points, Kane had 141. They both had eight game winning goals. So you're looking at the exact same player that Patrick Kane was through the first 161 games. They've both.

[Keith Yandle]

And not to mention what like but dard doesn't have Jonathan Toews, Flynn Verstig, Patrick Sharpie came later.

[Biz Nasty]

But like have lat was there then.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, have lot like he. Patrick Kane had some players around him, but Dard's kind of doing this. No offense to the guys on their team. Like he's doing this without any other superstars is. Is very impressive. And yeah, a lot of people have been hard on him. I think he's looking at this year like I got a chance to be on the Olympic team. Like, you can tell he's bought in. He's playing hard every shift. He's not just going out there playing on the perimeter. Like he's bringing it every night and bringing his team into the fight. Like Bertuzzi hat trick the other night. Like those guys getting them going. It's like you said, they're a fun team to watch and you know he's going to just keep getting better and.

[Biz Nasty]

Better and I'm all in, boys.

[Yancey]

I sat at the start of the year. I've seen enough.

[Biz Nasty]

I know you are another player in Chicago at local guy, Boston area. We talked about Ryan Shea, how good he's been for Pittsburgh. Ryan Donato, who was a 14, 15, 16 goal scorer throughout his career, who pops off for over 30 last year. Everyone wonders, wow, he didn't get traded and then resigns in Chicago for lower money than I thought he would get. Buddy.

[Ra]

He.

[Biz Nasty]

He's nice, man. He. He is six goals already in 14 games, that guy. And he's 29. It's just. It takes people a little bit longer and people to get a chance that they maybe necessarily didn't get in where they play in the lineup to, to really like reach your full potential. So good things in Chicago right now. Very good things. And. And on Monday night, Prime biz. Are you working this week?

[Yancey]

No, I did that, that Pittsburgh Toronto game. I. Is it back in Toronto this week?

[Biz Nasty]

No, it's Columbus, Edmonton, which is a fun one. Which is a fun one.

[Yancey]

I'm excited for that. I pray Columbus spanks your Oilers.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay. Yeah, we know you do. We know you do. I, I believe when I think of Columbus in Toronto, they, they did beat you in the playoffs during the pandemic, correct? Yeah, I think that was the case. So, yeah, go Oilers. But Columbus. Kind of a weird start, Very slow start for Fantilly. I was, I was thinking we were going to see a pop off season, but right now the numbers aren't necessarily there, but their team, based on what I'm kind of reading like, they. They're Jekyll and Hyde a little bit. We talked about the loss to the Islanders. That was an absolute kick in the dick leading that game, not even getting a point out of it. But then there's been nights they look excellent. So they kind of got to find their identity, I think. But I think that there's enough there where they could make the playoffs. I know I was willing to bet them over the Devils this season. That was probably a mistake. I even considered that. But I. I like Columbus. I like Washington play Edmonton has to figure something out. They got a few more games, I believe till that game Monday, but that should be a good one. On Prime. Prime Hockey Monday night.

[Yancey]

Awesome.

[Biz Nasty]

Not the same without biz on the panel. Prime Monday Night Hockey is available to prime members in Canada. Start your free trial prime video.com for the full Prime Monday Night Hockey schedule, visit prime video.com NHL it was getting rowdy back there.

[Yancey]

Do you guys see how many people.

[Biz Nasty]

Were back there when I was you screaming? You were screaming like a WWE character.

[Yancey]

Yeah, maybe that. Maybe that.

[Keith Yandle]

Doing the splits.

[Yancey]

So I would.

[Ra]

We.

[Yancey]

We did those game time videos with them. One of them already came out and more of them are going to roll out. I think it would be silly if we could go to Toronto on the concourse there where they got the setup and we're dressed as those characters so people see more and more of these videos and what we're talking about online. But we did. We've obviously collaborated with Amazon to do some fun things like we're doing. We got three coast to coast coming up on some of these Thursdays. I personally have at least one more where I'm on the panel. I believe it's the last Monday night Hockey of the year against Toronto versus Dallas. But it would be like even, maybe even do one in Montreal. Imagine getting to go there to do one of those live, getting all the happy. Imagine you got demigod on the panel after and you could talk to him and like touch him with your hands.

[Biz Nasty]

Is he doing interviews yet? I don't think so.

[Yancey]

During the translator.

[Biz Nasty]

Speaking of interviews, the. The Otani with the perfect. Thank you guys. At the end of his interview after, it's like, ah, that sounded like a guy like from Kansas.

[Yancey]

That's. It's Mel.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

Hey, I saw the. What is it? Home by three. Like Schwartz, you know? Yeah, yeah, Swartzy.

[Biz Nasty]

And they were like, what if he's.

[Yancey]

Just like Hawaiian schmaltzy schmaltz.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

They were like, what if daddy.

[Keith Yandle]

They're like, what if he's just a Hawaiian guy and he just doesn't want to do interviews and he like, he's just putting on this his fake that.

[Biz Nasty]

He'S from dive deep dive into Otani on Wikipedia. So who knows if it's true or not. Apparently, like, hat maybe had the ability to swim in the Olympics. He was a swimmer growing up and just. Just, you know.

[Yancey]

Oh, he's got the body of a swimmer. When you look at him, you're like, oh, yeah. This guy could. Oh, yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Would you say I have the body of a swimmer?

[Yancey]

No.

[Keith Yandle]

You do. Yes, he does.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh.

[Yancey]

Oh, you. You. I thought you said. Did you say I have it as in I was talking?

[Biz Nasty]

No, because I can swim, dude.

[Yancey]

No, you don't want to swim. Your shoulders are bright broad enough.

[Biz Nasty]

I got broad shoulders.

[Yancey]

Not like.

[Biz Nasty]

I got broad shoulders, bro.

[Yancey]

Not like.

[Keith Yandle]

Don't come at his shoulders, man.

[Biz Nasty]

Buddy, I got shoulders, dude. I mean, he's a loose fitting hoodie. He's a loose fitting hoodie. I got shoulders, bro. I got shoulders. Take it back.

[Yancey]

The whole back. Show us your back. Yeah, turn around.

[Keith Yandle]

If he tr. If he trained like a swimmer, then maybe he would.

[Yancey]

No, but you got to go tarot.

[Keith Yandle]

Is that fucking Hulk Hogan?

[Biz Nasty]

Too much hair back there to take that off right now. Well, biz, take it back.

[Yancey]

I was gonna bring up one more guy.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay.

[Yancey]

Who? We talk about him every week, though. Now. Macklin Celebrini tied for the league leading points. He's got to make that team.

[Biz Nasty]

I don't think there's a chance in hell he's not on that team.

[Yancey]

He's a beast.

[Biz Nasty]

I think you lock it up. Lock it up.

[Keith Yandle]

Who are you taking? Bizarre.

[Yancey]

I mean, but that's not fair because I feel like I don't think it's.

[Keith Yandle]

Not fair to say that Whit doesn't have a nice back.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, seriously, Good call.

[Yancey]

I think Macklin Celebrini, like 99% out of a hundred people are taking him on as opposed. But from what I've seen so far this year, like, Bedard has figured out that compete is what he needs to bring, and he's doing it, and he's putting up offensive numbers. So I personally think it's. It's hard because, like, I think, like, celebrity would actually start the tournament in the lineup. Whereas if you're bringing Bedard, I don't think Bedard starting in the lineup. So it's like, are you using that space for a guy who might not seek act, see action, or are you saving that space for, like, let's say an extra? Where like, maybe like a Tom Wilson. Like, do you guys see Tom Wilson as a starter right now? He's he's. There's high. He's leading their team in points. An Olympic starter.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. So looking at, looking at the lineup from four nations, Bennett, I mean, he's been, he, he's not having a great start, but it's Bennett in a big game. Like, he ain't going anywhere. I don't think I'd be shocked.

[Rick Nash]

No.

[Biz Nasty]

Cps, the coach, Lock. I don't know. Crosby, Hagel, I don't know. Jarvis, Connectney. Then you got McKinnon, Marshawn, Marner, McDavid, Point, Reinhardt, Stone. So those first few. If you're talking Wilson, you're talking Bedard, you're talking Celebrini. I could see an argument for.

[Yancey]

Are you bringing Stone?

[Biz Nasty]

I don't think. Depends on his health, dude. I, I mean, he's injured again right now. Like, I think he's probably there if he's healthy. The guy's a gamer. He's an unreal defensive player. Do it. And he's a horse. So I don't see a world where if he's healthy, he's not on the team. But I don't know. Sorelli, Hagel, Kinect Knee, Jarvis. Like, I could see Wilson, Celebrini, I don't know. Like, the thing about Bedard is he's not going to pk, right? You'd be losing a PK guy based on those names we mentioned. So there's going to be people, amazing players that get hosed out of playing in the Olympics. With Canada, it's always that way. The old Canada could send their second team and probably compete for a medal is always valid, although goaltending would be an issue. But a guy who won two gold medals and played in three Olympics, best on best Olympics was Rick Nash, and he was unreal. And he talks about his role in 2010 as a checking line player. He talks about 2014 and the disappointment of 06, along with many other things. So right now we want to thank Rick Nash and throw it over to an awesome interview. So Blue Jackets fans and Team Canada fans, Rangers fans, Bruins fans, for a minute. Enjoy. Guys, this is nuts. There's over a billion bucks in prizes already won using jackpocket and over 70 millionaires made. That is insane. 70 millionaires making over a billion bucks in prizes, all because of Jackpocket. Mega Millions and Powerball are climbing right now. And with Jackpocket, you can order official lottery tickets and, and even scratch offs whenever you want. No lines, no hassle, just your phone. That's it. All you need is your phone. You get the alert when you win and boom, it's time to collect. So we've partnered with Jackpocket to hook you up. New customers get $5 in lottery credits when you sign up with code PUCK2 and opt in, don't miss it. Get Jackpocket today.

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[Biz Nasty]

Welcome now to a very special guest, a guy we've been wanting to get on for years and years. First overall pick in the 2002 NHL Entry Draft, an all time player, all time human being and current director of hockey ops for the Columbus Blue Jackets, Rick Nash. What's going on, Nasher?

[Rick Nash]

Not much. It's, it's good to join you guys. I think I've told you every time that I would just be a boring, boring interview. And you know, I listen to you guys all the time and it's fun and it's exciting and as Yan's knows, you know, that's just not me.

[Biz Nasty]

Hey, you know what? I think that when you've had the career that you've had, you don't have to be telling wild and crazy stories. People love the game that listen to this, they want to hear. I mean, gold medalists, Rocket Richard, winner, like first overall pick. I think your career in itself doesn't matter if you think it's boring. Others don't. So I did, I remember seeing you at the draft in Nashville and you're like, I don't know, it's not really my style. So maybe we could take. Thank Yance. Right. We finally got a former teammate of yours to get you, drag you in with us. So.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, well, I mean there's, there's a lot of crossover, you know, with our, our draft class and you know, going to Carolina together way back in the day and remember that game? Yeah, I remember that game. That was a long one. And you know, with Biz growing up in Welland and you know, the old Welland Tigers and the battles that the organization that the Brampton had with them and then obviously. And so, you know, I, I would like to give Yan's a little bit of the credit, but there's also a lot of history with you guys as well.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, I mean, getting right into it. I think my first question is, without you, we don't have Oldie. Can you please explain to me how you know Oldie? Has he always been like this? Have you been as surprised as we've been in seeing his antics?

[Yancey]

Maybe not this morning. I don't think he knew you were coming on, but the Brampton number popped up and you said like, you, you're maybe not so crazy, but you enjoy having like gestures around you. Right? Is that, is that a fair thing to say?

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, you know what some of my friends call me, you know, kind of the guy that likes to sit back in the corner and watch them. And Yance, Yance knows better than anyone but you know, I'm, I'm so happy for Oldie. He's honestly been the exact same guy since he was six years old and we played for the Brampton Excelsiors from when we were six years old and we would come up is to, to Pelham and play the Pelham Raiders and you know, we've been traveling all around Ontario and just struck up a great friendship and I'm, I'm telling you there's, there's not a better guy or a more genuine big hearted guy than, than Oldie and you know, it's fun. You know, thank you to you guys for taking him under your wing and Yance to get him going. But I honestly mean this when I say it, it couldn't happen to a better guy.

[Yancey]

He's the bad, that's him.

[Keith Yandle]

And that's, it's not, it's not an act. Right. Like he's been doing this for years and years.

[Rick Nash]

Right. You know, so how it all, how it all started was you know, obviously we were friends, we were buddies growing up and Oldie actually had to go to a different high school than our friend crew. But I promise you he spent more time at our high school than he did his own and he would just show up and be in the hallways and then I moved to, to London and would come back halfway through when our, once, our season, once we got beat out of the playoffs, I go back to our school and see Oldie and hang out. And then finally I got drafted to Columbus and, and started, you know, moving down to Columbus and I had a group of buddies and Yan's knows all of them that would show up to games without telling me and they would be dressed up along the glass and I would come out for warm up and I would start dying laughing and it just turned into a, you know, a huge thing that they usually surprised me in Buffalo, Toronto, Detroit, you know, Ottawa, kind of close, close to Brampton. So that's, that's how it kind of all began. And then you know, as we move along here, I don't know how much time you guys want to spend on Oldie but you know, we can talk about what it, what it evolved into.

[Yancey]

Keep going man. I mean he's a character I love having around. Everything you said is bang on. He's so genuine and yeah, it's just, it's, it's just awesome to have him around. He's just Such a morale boost. Now, was he playing net? Was he a goalie back when you guys were growing up?

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, so he was, he was. He played inner city in, in Brampton and he was a hockey goalie, and then in lacrosse, he was, he was a defender. And, you know, I always remember parents saying, don't give oldie a lacrosse stick because you'll use it as a weapon. And. And he did. He was, he was crazy. He's. He's got this. As nice of a guy as he is and as genuine. He's. He is. You put him on the lacrosse floor and. And he was insane. But yeah, so they started coming down to Columbus and then, you know, obviously got. Got traded to New York and it almost got taken next level, as most things do on Broadway. And you know, that, that's kind of where the, the, the, the star in him came out. And you know, Yan's, I'm sure Yens can speak to a little bit of that.

[Ra]

Yep.

[Biz Nasty]

I want to go into, like, your kind of your youth hockey and your, your beginning of the game. And like, how much did you fall in love with it? Like, was this something from the time you can remember you dreamed of playing in the NHL and who was somebody that kind of, if it was your dad or a coach, like, who really was a guy you look back now that, like, made a huge difference at a young age to you?

[Rick Nash]

Well, it was, it was definitely my. My parents, my parents, my older brother. In our household, it was, it was hockey all the time. And it's funny now, having two, two young boys and, you know, I. You can't try to create that passion for them. Right. And I always tell them, you know, get in the garage, take your shots. And I can't be pushing them too much because they got to fall in love with it themselves. And I can't. I can't, you know, I can't initiate the passion of the game. And for me, my whole world was hockey. Every opportunity I had, I was in the street, whether it was, you know, by myself taking shots, you know, recreating situations of game sevens or, you know, Olympic gold medal games. Hockey was my life. And funny enough, a few years back, my mom was, was moving and she went through some of the old school work, and it was one of those things from grade two of what you want to be when you're older. And, you know, mine, mine was an NHL hockey player. So, you know, it was, it was my dream. I honestly felt that, you know, I, I couldn't be stopped. Only for the fact that I don't know what else I would do. You know, growing, growing up in, in Brampton, you just, you know, I'd probably be, you know, working in a factory somewhere or doing something I don't even know. So it was almost like there was no other option other than to live out my dream.

[Yancey]

At what age did you think it was a possibility that you could make the NHL? Like, when did, when were you like, okay, and when did you notice that you were just a lot better than the other kids? Like, did that happen at a young age or was that like a growth spurt?

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, funny enough, on one of the mum's trips with, with Dan Gerardi's mom, she, she always used to say when, when we were coming up to play against me, they always knew it was going to be a, a tough night for Dan and I was going to have a couple goals. But you know what? It honestly didn't hit me biz until we were driving down the 401 from London to Kitchener and, and you guys remember that Redline report, I think it was you used to get the clippings on the junior bus. And I remember seeing I was like top 20 in the North America rankings. And for some reason it just hit me there that I, I'm going to take this season really serious. You know, before that it was always a dream. But that's kind of where it hit me hard. I'll never forget one time in, in, in grade six. This is a funny story. At least when I tell it I get some good, good laughs out of it. But we, I left the Toronto Marlies and I went to play for the Mississauga Rebels for one year and they used to play at the old Iceland on, on Thursdays at 8 o' clock. And so I'd show up to, to grade six or grade seven, whatever it was, every Friday morning. And we started with, with French class and during parent teacher meetings my mom came in and the French teacher said, you know, Rick's tired every single Friday morning and you know what's going on. And she explains to her, well, you know, he has a. Hockey is his home. Nights are Thursday night. You know, we get home late and it's, it's a quick wake up and he's right into French class. And, and the French teacher said was, you know, maybe Rick should really think about quitting hockey and taking school a little more serious. And you know, school, school was always number one. You know, you got to be a good student. But anyways, thankfully we didn't we didn't listen to that. And I was a couple. Couple years into my career and I got some fan mail from. From that teacher and she was asking for a stick for the school for charity. So. Yeah, I know Yan's wouldn't send it, but the funny thing. Yeah. Was she had a pretty good line and she goes, she goes, P.S. you better hope you never get traded to Montreal. Oh, okay.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, because you wouldn't.

[Rick Nash]

And anyways, we, We.

[Keith Yandle]

The whole.

[Yancey]

The whole province would have learned English to have you on their team back then.

[Biz Nasty]

I thought you were going to say, she might say, well, he's got to take this more serious. What if he gets drafted by the Canadians? No, she was like a American teacher. You got to quit.

[Rick Nash]

Hate her. She was straight up. Quit hockey.

[Yancey]

No, not. Ain't gonna work.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

Thankfully you didn't quit hockey in sixth grade and then a few years later, obviously getting drafted to London and we know what London is now. Was it like that back then? Did it have like the aura of, okay, this is like the mecca of junior hockey and for you coming in, or did you start that and make it where it is now?

[Yancey]

Sure, I think I actually played against you my, My rookie year when I was in North Bay. And I think you guys were still at the old barn, weren't you, before they moved into the nice one.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, so I was, I was the first year. The Hunters just bought the team and that was their first draft pick. So we, we were at the old barn, the old ice house, right off the 401. It wasn't the. The dynasty that it is now or the reputation that London has with just producing, you know, NHL after NHL or it was, you know, Mark and Dale were. Were around, but they would. Dale wasn't on the bench yet. That would happen pretty fast, halfway through, right through the season. But yeah, so it was. It was different in London. We. We played at a. Well, biz can tell you about that arena. It was. It was an old barn, but it was. It was fun.

[Biz Nasty]

Like an old. A sick old school one. Biz, like one you, like, wanted to go into.

[Yancey]

Yeah, it's kind of. It was. Yeah, it was just. It was just old. Old and grimy, but it was. It was cool. It felt like an old junior barn. And like, was it. Was it hard for you to adapt to the ohl or did you slide right in? Like, did you get homesick because you. You kind of talked about the relationship you had with all your. Your close friends and stuff. I'm sure they were visiting quite A bit. But how was your transition to the O?

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, that's a good. It's, it's always nice to dive into these, these things. You know, there, there's definitely some homesickness for sure. I mean I, I literally just turned 16 in June and I was gone in September right to London and you know, my mom dropped me off. Luckily enough I got to live with Logan Hunter who, who passed, you know, a couple years back, which is, which is terrible. So we lived together for two years which really made the experience so much easier. You know, we, we bonded like brothers and you know, living in London with, with having Western University right there, I mean there's, there's so many fun things to do. You know, as a 16 year old, obviously you can't take part, which I didn't in, in a lot of those things. You know, you can even check with oldie, he, he'll back me up on that. But anyways it there, there was some tough times for sure. But when you're chasing your dream and your dream is to be an NHLer and that's kind of a stepping stone to, to get there, you, you, you just kind of, you know, man up and know what it takes.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm looking at this, your second year's roster. I can't imagine a 16 year old Corey Perry as a rookie after your rookie year. And he kind of lit it up too. Like he was, he just nasty right from the get go.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, Corey Perry came in and he was, he was incredible. I mean he was, he was so light in his weight and he looked like such a young kid. But you could not deny the skill, work ethic, compete and just how good of a guy he, he was. You know, he fit right in. You know, we, we had some, some older veterans that gave, you know, not only myself but you know, Corey a bit of a fun time being a young guy in junior back in the early 2000s. But you know what, there's a reason he's still playing and still having success. You could see it from when he was 16 years old.

[Keith Yandle]

That was during the days of the, the being a, being a rookie and junior and even pros wasn't easy. Like you're getting harassed by the older guys. Like looking back on it, like I think it helped make me who I am and I'm sure you feel the same way. I'm glad it's still not in the game but like it's, it's tough when you're 16, 17 years old, getting absolutely berated by these guys. Who have played a little bit in the, in those leagues.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, you know, it was, it was different I think obviously than it is now. And, and unfortunately you really do hear some horror stories and some, some, some terrible things that happened. For me personally, nothing like that happened, happened to me. I think with the Hunters taking over and Dale and Mark kind of having that reputation around the hockey world and, and there was no messing around from, from that standpoint. You didn't want to have to deal with them in their first year bowing in the organization. But in saying that, Yan, I think you're totally right. I mean, it brought so many of us together. It's like a little brotherhood, you know, whether whit you're going NCAA or, or you're going to the queue like Yan's did, or you're playing in the O. I mean, you're leaving home for the first time, you're at such a young age where you, you know, you're gonna have people make impressions on you and you end up looking back now and I don't know how you guys feel about this, but you know, that was, that was probably the two best years of, of my life was hanging out, hockey life, hanging out with those guys, going to high school with them, going right to practice, hanging out all night.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, it feels like, you know, it, it is your job and everything, but you have no clue how much of a difference it is when it's truly your profession. Right? Like, and guys have families in the nh. That's why I kind of said the ahl that lockout year was incredible. I mean, you, you were so good. You, you were almost like it up. You don't know what the HL is.

[Keith Yandle]

But I know under the NHL, Nasher, it's like if you're not.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, I almost got there a few times towards the end of my career. Don't worry.

[Biz Nasty]

I want to talk about the draft a little bit and I'd like to hear your memories of it because I remember hearing about you, but I'm sure you remember that like since we were 15 now, you were a year younger than me because back then NCAA players, your draft would get pushed back a year. But it was Jay Bullmeester and from the time I think he played World Juniors at 15, 16, and, and all of a sudden, you know, you came flying on the scene. And I remember the night before the draft, like everyone's kind of saying, oh, Rick Nash. And then I just remember when you were picked, it was so dirty how they did it. The camera like pan to Bowmeester Right. Do you remember that in the arena? And then as letting in went second and then he still didn't go third. It was like, kept going over to him. I was like, holy shit. But were you a shock you went first or did Doug McLean and the Blue Jackets kind of let you know prior that was going to be the case?

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, you know what? You're. You're exactly right on the bowmeester. I mean, we. We thought he was going to be first overall for, for years and years and years. And, you know, the. The way it worked out and with the trade that they did, you know, he. He was. Obviously Florida knew that they had him locked up. So, yeah, you know, it's. It. It wasn't really like a. Like a huge shocker or surprise, I think, to everyone that had inside knowledge the way the trade worked. But to. To answer your question, I had my meeting with. With Doug McLean the night before, and when. Whenever Doug tells this story, he tells it a little different.

[Biz Nasty]

I love him.

[Rick Nash]

I think you guys know me well enough. But at the end of the meeting, Doug said, we would. We would love to have you. And the way Doug says it happened is I said, well, then trade up and get me. And I think you guys know me well enough that I would never say that. And the way I remember it is that, yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

No, Doug's probably like, I'm gonna trade up and get him, and then I can blame him if it doesn't work out. He made me do it.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, I love Doug, and he did a lot for hockey in Columbus, but. So he mentioned it to me, said, we would love to have you. We don't know if you're going to be there at three. And I said, well, I think. I think Columbus is the perfect situation for. For me, I think Florida had. They drafted Stephen Weiss at the time, the year before. Yeah. And they. So they had their forward. I know Atlanta had Heatley and Kovalchuk, and Columbus only had Klusla and LeClaire. So it was kind of a perfect situation for a young forward to come into Columbus. So I told Doug, I would love to be there. I think it's a perfect situation. Draft day comes around, and I was sitting in the stands, and about seven minutes before they announced the pot, the pick, Gino Retta, came running up to me and he said, you're not going to believe this, but Columbus just traded with. With Florida for the first overall pick. So I. I pretty much knew it was going to happen there once. Seven minutes before the pick wow, that's unreal.

[Keith Yandle]

Going, you know, from Canada, you know, the Mecca of hockey, especially London. Huge fallen going to Columbus, a new, you know, hockey town. It was their second year in the league, right?

[Rick Nash]

Correct. Yeah. Going into their third. Yeah. When I showed up. Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

Like for you it must have mean. I know you were cruising around in your Hummer with the fish tank in the back, like going to OSU parties. But like, what was it like to go to a, you know, a team that has never really had hockey?

[Rick Nash]

It was different. I mean, I, I grew up a, I grew up a Toronto Maple Leaf fan and I, I mean I couldn't even get close to a Doug Gilmore, Wendell Clark, a Matt Sundin, Felix Pot Van. I mean, you would never see them, you would never go to an open practice. You would. They, they were celebrities really, in my mind. And then, you know, when I got to Columbus, Ohio and, and you know, there were fans waiting outside my car after practice for a picture, for an autograph, for a conversation. So I had to learn fast that we were in a different market and we had to grow the game and we had to get season ticket holders. Right. So you had to put that time in after practice, after games, stop sign autographs, have conversations, you know, talk to their kids. And, and I embraced it. And you know, I take pride now where I see, you know, where Columbus minor hockey is now, it's been very impressive. So from a hockey standpoint, that was, that was kind of an eye opener coming from Toronto, where hockey's number one and, and that's it from, from an off I standpoint, it was tough. I mean, both my parents were working back in Brampton. You know, I, I was trying to figure out how to, how to get a mortgage on a house, how to rent a place, oldies column eight, you know, going to sorority parties and then this and that. All my buddies are in college, so it was different. Luckily enough, a guy named Larry Larson was a, was a radio guy for, for one of the local stations here, and he brought down Simon Fraser one day. Simon Fraser was a, was a defensive end for the Buckeyes. And if you guys Remember, in 2002, I or 3, they won the national championship. So he started bringing me onto campus and we used to hang out with like Craig Krenzel, Bobby Carpenter, I believe AJ Hawk was in that crew. These were all Buckeyes of those. And we used to go to parties and Simon would introduce me as a, as a walk on tight end and I would say, he goes, don't worry, no one knows about hockey on campus. He goes, just go, go along with the tight end and you'll have more fun. So it was, it was great. But yeah, those early years were different in Columbus, Ohio. As a hockey player, you're like, can.

[Biz Nasty]

I be a full ride tight end at least? Like, why do I have to be.

[Keith Yandle]

A Walker playing in the NHL? He's going to be a walk on.

[Yancey]

Good call getting the Jesus Shuttlesworth treatment just because you're a fucking walk on at Ohio State.

[Biz Nasty]

Now you're with Columbus. We've talked on the show a lot. Like, working with Columbus, that fan base is unreal. Like, I know it's been like a struggle here and there, but like when they get in the playoffs and even like the end of the year's game, they're not in the playoffs, that crowd, I, I can't imagine if they could. You guys can get a consistent winner cup threat. Like, I think it's a phenomenal hockey city. And I never really would have guessed it when I first came in the league when often it was kind of maybe not half full, but never really jammed.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, they, they've done a tremendous job here, our, our staff and our, our ticket salespeople. But it's, it's actually kind of scary to think that if, if we ever do go on a run, what's going to happen to the, the city of Columbus? I mean, we have, we have 11 sheets of ice here and they're all jammed booked already. So this city is just waiting for a Blue Jacket team to kind of take it to the next level. We always say, you know, Buckeye football ends in November and then you get the couple playoff games, but other than that, it's all Blue Jackets hockey. And you know, I honestly think our fans deserve, deserve a lot. They deserve playoff hockey. They deserve a good run. And we like to think that we're building the core here in Columbus to, to be able to do that, you know, sprinkled in with some, with, with some great veterans. But you know, there's also 30, 31 other teams that are trying to do the exact same thing. But our fans are incredible. And you saw in the playoff series when we played Tampa and then went on to Boston, I mean, the city was just buzzing.

[Yancey]

I noticed that Ray Whitney was one of your teammates your first year there. And we, me and Yance play with him in Arizona, one of the best ever, should be in the hall of Fame, in my opinion. But I also have everybody in the hall of Fame who, who probably him as one of the Guys. But who else did you kind of lean on as the veterans when you first came in and, and kind of teaching you just like how to be a pro? Because you go from only two years in the OHL where you're trying to adapt to that, and then boom, you're right off to playing in the National Hockey League.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, Ray was great. I mean he's, he's obviously one of the best still, still to this day, you know, to come in the league and have him as my captain, it was, it was incredible. We also had a, a former Brand Lee guy, Andrew Castles, who was just an incredible guy and a guy that I obviously grew up watching from being from the, you know, the neighborhood. Right, right over from us. So we had a, got a lot of veterans that kind of took me under their wing. It was funny. I was just 18 years old and my first year was Kevin Deneen's last year and I think he had 11 or 12 year old and it was, it would almost be more normal for me to hang out with the, with the kid than, than him, but there was a lot of good veterans. My first roommate was, was Scott Lachance and you know, I still see him around the arenas.

[Biz Nasty]

Great guy.

[Rick Nash]

Scouting for the Devs. And you know, he was, he, he, he just, he kind of told it how it was and that was my eye opener moment into the NHL. And he explained it, you know, he explained it to me that it's a business and you know, you, you're, you're kind of a product and the teams are going to do what's best for, for the team and, and sometimes you have to do what's, what's best for you. And, and obviously me, and, me and LC spent a lot of time in the room together just chatting and he was kind of towards the end of his career and I was just starting mine, but you know, I couldn't really think of a better guy to kind of learn off it because he's a classic east coast guy. If he likes it, he's going to tell you and if he doesn't like you, he's going to tell you as well.

[Yancey]

I was going to ask another question. It kind of goes back to like you coming into Junior too, and then obviously the NHL like, like you're such a highly skilled guy. How did you. And I'm sure they wanted you to try things, but where do you find the line and how do you get the help from either coaches where they're like, hey, that's not the play in that. In that situation like you got to make the safer play. Like when did you start kind of learning that where, where it all came together as far as like your high end talent and, and then maybe like learning how to play the right way or were you a guy when you came up? It was like you kind of always played by the book. You're always on the right side of the puck.

[Rick Nash]

No, I was not that guy. Biz.

[Biz Nasty]

You cheated a little offensively.

[Rick Nash]

My plus minus kind of speaks for itself over, over my career for sure. But I like to think that my game did kind of mold into the guy that you were talking about. Secondly, you know, coming from junior when you're playing in the O as you know like you know point point getters, goal scorers are, are held account held accountable on their goals, not for the defensive play had that's just the way it was and that's why I got drafted. But I came into Columbus and, and it was kind of the same thing. I didn't really understand the defensive side of the game quite, you know, to the best of my ability yet. And you know, for, for coaches with a new franchise, they're kind of wanting to win right away. So you know, it probably happened when, when Ken Hitchcock took over and you know, I'll never forget he, he grabbed me we, we landed in, in Denver and he grabbed me getting off the plane and he said so, so do you want to be a great goal scorer in this league or do you want to be a great player in this league? And and I said well I want to be a great player. And he said well I, I can't put you on the ice if we're up a goal with a minute left and, and you don't play pk and you know, I, I, I thought I would change my game right there and, and he helped me a lot and he kind of gave me Premo's number one of his former captains, Madano and, and guys that he kind of worked with before just to touch base on Hitch and, and how he worked and but you know that kind of evolved into you know, 2010 being on a shutdown line in Vancouver with, with Taves and Richards and playing against all the big guys, you know, the number one lines on the other team and then same thing in Sochi, you know, for the Olympics I wasn't used to on an offensive motor even on the power play I was used in a defensive role and pk so it's a good question Biz, because I do take a lot of pride and Kind of molded my game into a 200 foot game.

[Yancey]

That's awesome.

[Keith Yandle]

Do you ever look back and I know how humble you are and probably not. Like, if you were to come in the league right now, the player that you were, the offensive, you know, skill that you have, we've all seen your highlight goals, they're insane. But like, if you came in the league right now, like, because when you came in, it was. There was still a lot of hooking and holding, big lumbering D. Like just how easy the game do you think would be for you right now? And you can not be humble for once in your life.

[Rick Nash]

Well, I, I think, I think the be again Kovalchuk won the rocket. It was, I think it was 41 or 41 goals, I think, or 42, whatever it was. I mean, that's amazing. I mean that's some. You know, nowadays that's just a standard year basically for a goal scorer. So yeah, the league was so different. And you know, even if, yeah, if I, if I wanted to, you know, say I could come in and score 60 right now, I don't think that's the case. I. I watch these guys skate every night. I don't know how you guys feel, but I mean, just.

[Biz Nasty]

You could move, dude, you could fly though everything.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, but I, I don't know. That was, it was more straight line hockey in, in our day. I truly feel that it was power forward. You had to be over 6 foot. Now you just, you know, I feel like Crosby came in and he changed the game with his edges. And then you're seeing all these guys like Makar or Hudson in Montreal. Obviously McDavid, it's just a different game with your edges. You know, I probably would have enjoyed this hockey a little more than having, you know, some of those crazy big guys. I always think of Nashville's defenseman, you know, going in there in 2002 or playing against Scott Stevens, me and Chris Pronger, when we had to play St. Louis eight times a year when we were in the West. I just think about some of those guys, you know, whether it was Hulse or. There was. There was just so many guys in Nashville. I remember. Yeah, just big guys. So I, I don't know. I think, I think the hockey now is more enjoyable to watch. I don't know if you guys agree or disagree with that.

[Yancey]

Oh, I think definitely. And I was actually gon ask you like, who were like the biggest like pieces of. But as a compliment to play against, you mentioned prongs and you had to Play against them eight times a year. Like these guys were probably just trying to abuse you, right? Night in, night out, the slashing, the hooking, the cross checks, like right between where the pant meets the shoulder pads, like all that you had to put up.

[Keith Yandle]

Especially when you're the only guy. Like he's the only guy in Columbus for a long time.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, Pronger, I mean we, we always had our battles and funny enough, his brother Sean was, was on our, one of, one of my first teams. He was the nicest guy and you know, obviously Chris knew he hung out, but he didn't take, he didn't take any breaks on me whatsoever, you know. Then, then when I got to New York, I felt like there was some really good battles with Boston and Chara. I mean it was just such battles with him and you know, Marshawn. And it's always funny when, when people ask me, when I played in Boston for the four months, they always asked me about Marchand right away. And, and, and I honestly say I said I, I couldn't stand the guy playing against him. Like he was such a competitor. He was, he played with an edge. And then I got on his team and he couldn't have been a better guy. He, he literally couldn't have been a better leader. I was traded there. My, my family stayed back in New York. Brad would actually text me, you know, almost every other night asking me if I wanted to come over for dinner, meet up, go over to his place, watch hockey. As Yan's knows, I'm pretty antisocial, so I always declined. But it was it of him to ask.

[Yancey]

You're pretty antisocial.

[Rick Nash]

I like my alone time. You know, I, I, I like to keep to myself. But you know, as, as y have seen when, when, when we like to turn it on and have a fun night out or something, I, I'll be there for sure.

[Keith Yandle]

That's why he's got a 30,000 square foot house, to just hide and seek from his family.

[Yancey]

The Mall of America. Dad, I want to go back to just before we move on from Columbus. Like you guys finally get over the hump. You guys have that magical season where you, you finally make playoffs for the first time in franchise history. I know you guys end up getting swept by the Wings, but what was that run like? And finally to get like a few playoff games in Columbus and like, what did it mean to you to finally deliver that?

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, it, it was great. I mean it was the year after our owner passed away too, who I was pretty tight with. John H. McConnell. So it, it was a special year, but you know, looking back, I mean, everything went right that year for us just to get in the playoffs, to get swept in four games. You know, we, I think that was the year that Steve Mason showed up the goalie and kind of won the rookie of the year, I believe.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Rick Nash]

So, you know, so many things went right, but it was, it was, it was a really cool time to, to let Columbus, Ohio experience playoff hockey, you know, and just that experience, I, I just feel like, you know, my career, if I would experience more playoff hockey at a young age, that some of these guys get to do now, it just does wonders for you down the road when, when your window opens and you're actually competing for the Stanley cup. Those, those early years for, for playoff hockey is invaluable.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, I mean that's that team. I'm looking at that team right now. A 19 year old Vorcheck must have been comedy. I mean, Commodore is on that team. God, Broussard was young, like at the time, it was an. Umberger was a really good player. He was a year older than me at the national program. But you must have felt like, all right, we're kind of building, building something here, like, let's go and, and Mason wins Rookie of the Year. And then the next season, it, it had to be such a kick in the dick, like, oh, we're out again. You know.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, it was, it was tough. You know, you, the, the guys you mentioned there were some good names there. You know, we had, we had. Mark Meta was coming on, on defense. Yeah, Vermette was there. You know, they were, they were, they were picking some good pieces. I think that next year was when we got Jeff Carter too, which, which kind of really, you know, kick the excitement into, into, you know, major mode with having him. But, you know, it just didn't pan out. We kind of started going the other direction and then, you know, things, things started to change and people, people wanted out. People, you know, wanted, wanted to make different moves. So it's, it was just kind of the ebbs and flow of being with a struggle in a struggling team.

[Yancey]

You seem like a pretty like, like non vocal guy in a sense of like complaining and like, like at a certain point where you starting to like, maybe talk to management and say, hey, like, you know, we need to kind of advance things a little faster here. Like, I feel like maybe my talents are going to waste in a sense of you want to go on and fulfill your dreams of lifting a Stanley cup and Going on these deep runs. Like, did those conversations ever happen, like, like maybe even before you ended up moving on?

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, yeah, they happened for sure. I mean, I signed an eight year deal in Columbus and I planned to spend my whole, my, my whole career in Columbus. That was, that was the idea. I think I was 26, 27 in that second year. And you know, I was, you know, as I might be quiet, I pride myself on being upfront and honest and keeping things black and white and not letting there be any gray areas. And I asked management what the plan was and they mentioned to me that they wanted to do another rebuild around me. And I just thought, geez, if this kicks off, that means they're going to be 30, 31 when, when the window opens. And you know, I, I suggested to them, why not start, you know, your rebuild and get all your pieces with, with me, with traded me. And you know, they, they sat on it and chewed on it and then they were, they were part of it. So, you know, it as much of bad PR I might have gotten around Columbus, you know, it was kind of an equal deal. It wasn't like I went in there demanding a trade and you know, I asked them what their plan was and how we thought we both could benefit from my career and their organization at least.

[Biz Nasty]

Like, you lose in the playoffs, you get in, you lose and the next year kind of struggling. But that was the season of Vancouver, the Vancouver Olympics. And you mentioned like, the role you played on that team and just being in the city for that, like it was, it was something I'll never forget. And we lost. But for you, it had to be so fulfilling. Like, not only are you winning a gold medal for your country, but you're, you're playing such meaningful games and playing a big role. Like, I, I guess for you that's probably, I mean, you got two of the gold medals, but that had to be the best moment of your career. By a mile.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, by a mile is right. You know, I actually played on that 2016 in, in Torino as well. And that was kind of, that was kind of the old, the old 2002 roster. If, if you guys remember with Pat Quigg coaching and they brought kind of the Salt Lake City guys to Torino with, you know, a few younger players sprinkled in for experience. And I mean, just the heat that we got for finishing seventh or whatever that was in Torino, the pressure that we had when we showed up Vancouver. And I thought Steve Iserman did a great job kind of throwing that pressure on him and not on the players, it was unheard of. I don't know what would have happened if we didn't win anything other than gold in.

[Keith Yandle]

In.

[Rick Nash]

In Vancouver. So that is definitely one of the biggest highlights of my. Of my hockey career. It was incredible. The city was unreal. You know, the last game was incredible. The quarterfinal game against Russia was. Was incredible. So, you know, unfortunately, I never got to win the Stanley cup as a player, and it's still, you know, eats of me every day. But at the same time, I did get to experience some pretty cool things, like winning a gold medal in your home country.

[Yancey]

What did Stevie say? Like what?

[Rick Nash]

Like what?

[Yancey]

Like what went down for those who don't know.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah. You know, so one of the things that Steve. I'll also say he started the Vancouver Olympics training camp with it, and, you know, he started Sochi as well, was. Was. Was check your ego at the door. And I still carry that with. With our players now. You know, it doesn't matter if you play power play with your. With your club team. I think we had eight captains or nine captains, something crazy. It doesn't matter if you're, you know, the best goal scorer. You have to check your ego at the door, and you're gonna have to do whatever it takes, whatever we ask you to do to. To win a gold medal. And. And as far as the pressure went, he, you know, he.

[Yancey]

He.

[Rick Nash]

He made sure that he. He kind of put it on himself and. And let us worry about hockey and focus on the ice and, you know, just. Just kind of kept us away from all the distractions that. That could happen when you host a Olympics in. In your own country.

[Yancey]

Is it true Doughty showed up a little bit late to the rink for the gold medal game? Like, do you remember that at all?

[Rick Nash]

You know what? I. I remember not being able to sleep the night before that gold medal game in the. In the Village, and it was at noon. I don't remember that with doubts. I don't remember him being. Being late, but I wouldn't be surprised.

[Biz Nasty]

I think looking back now at. At 06, at least quickly, like, they didn't bring Crosby and it was his rookie year, but, like, now you're like, what the hell were they? I mean, I'm biased. I saw it all as rookie year, but that was probably the beginning of like, like, like when they brought Doty, it was almost like, I think people were a little surprised. And he kind of started as maybe the seventh, and then by the end of the second game, it was like, he's Spinorama all over the ice and dominating. So it was pretty evident to like bring these young guys in with the legs and Doughty is just a superstar there.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, it was kind of the passing of the, the generational for hockey Canada, I, I believe, you know, with having Sid come in and, and then, you know, that's going to happen. It's going to happen again just in waves. It was same in Sochi. We had a lot of the same players sprinkled in with a few young guys, but, you know, it was great hockey and I'm so happy that NHLers are back at the Olympics. I think it's going to be awesome.

[Yancey]

What was your time like with the Rangers and Yans? Like what? Like, was, were you there right away? Yan's, when he first got there?

[Rick Nash]

I can't.

[Keith Yandle]

I think you had already been there.

[Rick Nash]

For a year, right?

[Keith Yandle]

You got there the year you guys lost in the finals. Was that your first year there, there?

[Rick Nash]

No, I was there 2012. I got there.

[Keith Yandle]

Okay, so he was there for two years before I got there.

[Yancey]

And it must have been a whirlwind. You go from playing in Columbus to the Big Apple.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah. You know what, as much as I love Columbus, I, I think I'm so happy I got to play for an original six, you know, and I'm not going to blow smoke up, up Yance, but you know, you guys get to work with them every day and you know, it's, it's, it's so fun that, you know, all your listeners and all these people are exposed to him because he is, is. He is truly one of the best teammates that I've ever played with. One of the funniest, most wittiest guys I've ever been around. And, you know, someone that I keep in touch with, you know, Daily Weekly. The funny thing is, is you can ask so many other guys that he's played with and they're all going to say the same thing about him. So it's, it's pretty cool. But we had a lot of fun in, in New York. And like I said, I, I mean, to play for an original six was incredible biz.

[Keith Yandle]

The, the one thing I did to impress him and has nothing to do with hockey was when I whistled down that boat when we were down the keys. Oh, he's my greatest accomplishment.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, like one right now.

[Yancey]

You should be a bellman.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, I used to work at a cab stand.

[Rick Nash]

Didn't you do something to JT's car too, or. No. Yeah, yeah, that was that year. Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

We, that's what. Yeah, he cut you off in meeting. I went into the end of the year meeting and Nash was like, oh, I gotta wait for Milsy's in there. He could have been making the whole thing up.

[Rick Nash]

And I was like, all right, I'll.

[Keith Yandle]

Take care of that and put his car on the highway.

[Yancey]

What other antics did you guys get into?

[Biz Nasty]

Well, then Hazy came.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh yeah, it was us three.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, the Rangers is like, that's a place that everyone kind of wants to play at. Like, I, I, once you go to a game there, just the vibe and warm ups, you're like, oh my God. So the fan base for you, Nasher, as good as we're pumping up Columbus's fan base, it's just kind of different there. Like, it, it means a little bit more, or at least it feels that way when you're playing in New York City, I think.

[Rick Nash]

Oh, it was incredible. I mean, to, to play 41 home games at MSG and then, then you start talking about playoff hockey and you're, you're coming out of that tunnel and the lights are off and I mean, there's, you know, that, that many fans and you see the MSG roof. I mean, it's, it's, it's incredible. It's what I, what I dreamed about when I wanted to be an NHL hockey player. And I think, you know, as a fan, you, you can understand it. But as a former player, you know what the energy is like in that building. Some buildings have different energies, whether it's Montreal, Toronto, New York, you know, it's, it's, it's just, it's different the way it is. But, you know, as far as those Ranger, Ranger teams went, I mean, there were some great years. We had some great guys. And once Hazy showed up, up, you know, the, the young guys kind of took over and you know, all of us living down in Tribeca, I think they, they had a, they had a penthouse down there for a bit. And you know, I also had to remind them that I was an older guy and, and towards the end of my career and couldn't really do what they were, what, what they were, you know, doing. Going out for nice dinners and, and that kind of stuff. But that was a special group, right, Yance, with, with those guys that we had. I mean, that was one of the tightest teams I've been on.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, it was incredible. Just, just on and off the ice. Like you think in New York, everything's so spread out, guys are going to be Doing different things, but, like, the, the tightness of our group, especially at the rink, was so fun.

[Biz Nasty]

And, you know, conference finals that year, Keith.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, I lost game seven. Tampa.

[Biz Nasty]

Tampa.

[Rick Nash]

Tampa. At home.

[Yancey]

Yeah. What was the score? Wasn't it one nothing or something or two nothing?

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, two, one, two. Not something.

[Biz Nasty]

That year you had 42. Nash, who were you playing with?

[Rick Nash]

Stepan and Kreider? I believe we had some. Yeah, we had some good years. I mean, you just think, you think about that team with McDonough and Girardi. Was Klein there, too? Yance Klein, Yeah. Rich was. Marty.

[Keith Yandle]

Marty, yeah.

[Rick Nash]

Marty, yeah.

[Yancey]

Who was the biggest stud on the team? Probably Hank, right? Like, he was like the. Was he the.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, for sure. For, for me, Hank. I mean, Nasher and I. No, no, no, Me, Hank. You know what?

[Ra]

Hank.

[Rick Nash]

Hank is. Hank is one of the hardest working guys I've ever seen. I always say it's the best goalies in the world are the guys that work the hardest in practice. And he would be pissed off at you if you scored score on him at practice. And, you know, there's a reason why he's, why he's in the hall of Fame right away and one of the best goalies of all time.

[Biz Nasty]

I know by the end, like, you kind of had to retire because of concussions. Like, when was your first one was like. And, and how long did you miss after that? Like, when did it kind of begin with? With the head injuries.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, so I, I had, I had one in junior where I actually got knocked out. I think it might have been playing North Bay. Might have been. You biz? No.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, no, I wasn't on you.

[Rick Nash]

We were playing Su Marie and, and I got elbowed and I got knocked out, and that was my first one when I was 17. You know what. And then early on, as you guys remember, when we all first came in the league, I mean, there really wasn't much of, of, of protocol, I guess you could say. And now they've come so far, and I, and I truly believe the NHL has done a, a great job in doing that. But, you know, they added up over the years and, and had a few in New York and, you know, I had one in Boston where I just kind of had a lasting effect with my, with my eyes. And funny enough, it actually went away. And, you know, I met with a bunch of doctors and, you know, after talking to my family and, and having a young family with three kids, I just kind of weighed my options and thought, how bad is that next one going to be. So I was cleared to play. And I just thought that I played 15, 16 years, over a thousand games. And although I didn't win a Stanley cup, which is, as I talked about earlier, still disappoints me. I wanted to be able to throw a ball with the kids, coach both their teams now. So that's kind of why I made that that decision was. I just didn't know how bad that that last one was going to be or the next one.

[Biz Nasty]

Sorry, I can't believe we haven't asked you. Actually, that goal against the Coyotes, an all time NHL goal, like one of the greatest goals ever. I just looked it up. I didn't know the game was tied with 20 seconds left. Like that was to win the game in the third pair. But Derek Morrison, Keith Ballard, like, like you had to know right at the end of that, like, holy, that's the best goal I've ever scored.

[Rick Nash]

You know what, it was incredible. I took a high sticking penalty a couple minutes before that and. And they tied the game on it. So it was amazing how it worked out. And Mike Becca flipped it out and I mean it was such a, like such a basic inside out move that I couldn't believe it worked the first time. And then it worked the second time too. And it was unbelievable.

[Keith Yandle]

You should have done it three times the Bali.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah. And then if you actually watch it, that the goalie actually makes the right play and he, he poke checks it and it rolls up my shim pad and then lands. Perfect. But talk about, you know, at the time, Columbus was a bit of a, a smaller market and the, the media and I don't even know if social was really around back then, but the media that, that goal caught and you know, getting put up for an SP and doing like a whole bunch of different interviews just because of that goal kind of that, you know, gave a lot of love to the Blue Jacket brand or a farming.

[Keith Yandle]

Wait. I was sitting on the bench. I think I've told the story. And Jovo took his glove off and flipped it upside down. He goes, hey, or you want some popcorn? Enjoy the show, kid.

[Rick Nash]

Oh, it's great.

[Keith Yandle]

It was like everyone on the bench. I remember looking back and Wayne was like, what the was that?

[Biz Nasty]

And then Obi had his against that team too.

[Yancey]

Oh yeah, Arizona was laughing.

[Keith Yandle]

That was before that though.

[Yancey]

Who would you put as the most skilled guy you ever played with? With, like, who's the guy? You were just like, wow, your favorite. I mean, you had Fedorov early on in your career with Columbus.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Olympics doesn't count.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, I know. I was gonna. My. I got to. In Torino, I got to play on a line with a Ginland Sakic, which was, you know, incredible growing up watching those guys. You know, Sergey was obviously, Sergey was one of the best. He was. I mean, he was a great guy. He was, he. He taught us a lot. He was a funny guy to be around. But, you know, there was actually one guy named David Vori. We're going to honor him here in a few weeks for our 25th anniversary for the Blue Jackets. He was a Czech player that was incredibly skilled. We also had a Russian guy, Nikolai Jaredev.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh my God.

[Rick Nash]

Oh my gosh. I mean, that's probably the most skill that I've ever seen in my life, especially coming in when he did. Obviously it just didn't pan out. But I, I would have to say those two guys were, were probably the most skilled guys that. And of course Keith Yandel, one of the, the all time greatest with this. I, when once I retired and I got to watch more of his games and, and the fake slap shot behind the net, I mean, I just, I was just waiting for it every time I watched him.

[Keith Yandle]

The song master Fedorov was playing D back then. No. Didn't he play a little D with you guys?

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, he played both. Yeah, that's, that's where we were with the.

[Ra]

Wow.

[Rick Nash]

With Sergey.

[Biz Nasty]

Could play both now being in like player development and all that, like, like you're watching your prospects. The, the Blue Jackets. Are you watching around the league? Like are you tuning in on a Thursday night when there's 12 games?

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, so I'm following mostly our prospects. You know, I spend a lot of time kind of in the NCAA arena. This weekend I'm off to see Kaden Lindstrom and Jackson Smith. So they got a good matchup with, with the Spartans versus Penn State. So I'll be down.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, that's a big one.

[Rick Nash]

I'll be down there all weekend, you know, catching up on, on college free agency, trying to find. Find guys and help, help, you know, our team here. And then. Yeah, watch. I don't travel with the big club, but you know, I'm at every home game that I can be at and then on top of that, coaching assistant coach for both my kids teams. So it's just, it's non stop hockey, Nash.

[Keith Yandle]

I know, I know. We've been pumping, you know, Columbus's tires and what. You know, and you said it earlier, just taking pride in and being a guy that helped Build it to what it is. But, you know, last year with all, you know, the terrible news with Johnny and the way that that city came together and your team in general, and you see it on the documentary on Amazon, like, you know, what everyone has done with Meredith and Johnny's kids, like it, it truly does seem like a family that you guys have there and like such an easy team to root for. But just talk to us about just what that meant to you guys just to obviously with horrible, horrible news that.

[Rick Nash]

Happened and then, and what you guys.

[Keith Yandle]

Were able to turn that into.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, it was, it was absolutely devastating for, you know, for, for all parties and obviously Johnny and Matthew's parents and their wives and their kids, I mean, it was, you know, it was something that didn't feel real at the time. And you know, Meredith lives pretty close by to us in our neighborhood and we try to, you know, check in on her, my wife and I, as much as possible and you know, try to have our work for dinner whenever, whenever we can. And you know, we, we got to hold the, the crazy game of hockey with our buddy Mark Roberge and oar that where all the proceeds went to the, the Matthew, Matthew and Johnny Foundation. So, you know, Johnny as, as a blue jacket, I remember, you know, I remember when we signed him and, and I got to fly down to, you know, somewhere in Jersey, wherever it was outside Philadelphia to pick up him, to pick him and Meredith up and bring him back to Columbus and, and you know, never forget Johnny, he hated to fly. And I think one of Mr. McConnell's planes was, was having a little issue before we took off and the pilots assured us that we were fine. And Johnny was so scared the, the whole way on that flight home and you know, he had so many questions about Columbus and you know, I, I, I think, you know, Don Waddell here coming into the new job and, and that happened and right away he, he did a great job for the organization and family. Really did well to, you know, to try to honor Johnny and, and, and, and we will never forget him and, and, and what he brought his excitement to the ice and, and his family.

[Biz Nasty]

Buddy, we can't thank you enough for coming on. I think it's, it's nice way to end talking about the Goodreau family and what, what you guys have done for, for Meredith, like Keith said. So man, I'll tell you, watching that highlight of that goal kind of, you know, I haven't seen you play in so long, like you were unstoppable at times. Buddy, it's it's a treat to have you on and congrats on your incredible career and good luck with everything with, with the Blue Jackets. I hope we. We run into you soon.

[Keith Yandle]

We need a sandbagger with him.

[Yancey]

I got one last quick one. Did, did the cannon scare you when it would go off after you score?

[Biz Nasty]

Scared me.

[Rick Nash]

No. I love the cannon. That didn't affect me, but I. Hey, listen, I'm. I'm happy I got to do this with you guys. You know, honestly, watching from afar and you know, I don't really like being in the spotlight or anything, but I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm so proud of all you guys for what you turned this into. I mean, it's incredible. And, and I watch all the stuff, especially with Oldie joining in and, you know, it's just you guys are fun to watch and you guys are great for the game. You truly are. And you having an individual relationship with, with each of you guys is, is awesome. And, and I did watch your guys golf game, whatever that tournament was with, with Barstool. And uh, we'll have to get out to the links. Maybe me and Al.

[Keith Yandle]

You would do one.

[Rick Nash]

Well, we have to talk to Oldie first, but.

[Yancey]

Okay. We'll bring all the focus off of you. I love that. Hey, and thank you for the kind words, Nasher. Like, that means a lot coming from you, dude. And, and the fact that you basically say we have somewhat of a relationship. Yeah, and send me his number. I might be texting.

[Biz Nasty]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Yancey]

Yeah, or Putty. He doesn't have a 30000 square foot house, man. I might move in him.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah, the ED's got me. Finally tracked me down and got me, so.

[Biz Nasty]

All right, Nasher, have a great one.

[Rick Nash]

You're a G. Okay, guys, Take care, man. All the best.

[Biz Nasty]

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[Ra]

Is it.

[Yancey]

So is Rick Nash a Hall of Famer?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

Not yet but he will be.

[Yancey]

Okay.

[Biz Nasty]

I don't know.

[Yancey]

It's hard right? Because we I can have this, this conversation and it kind of leads into what I wanted to mention and I forgot to bring it up off the top of the show when talking about the leafs John Tavares 500 goals. He's got 501 now. They had the celebration on Wednesday and like wow. The fact that he signed that four year deal in a hometown discount is so huge. And like I, oh I, I. In the past I brought up the like it was a bit of an anchor at 115 but I think what he's done to set the precedent in that locker room and show these young guys like how to be a pro and, and everything along with everything he's done as a Maple leaf and even beforehand. Like I think this guy's a Hall of Famer. I think he's, he's got three and three quarter years left of playing hockey if not more. I think he's going to get to 600 goals. I don't know how many guys all time have hit the 600 goal mark. It's, it's gotta be a list. That's probably what 12 guys.

[Biz Nasty]

You think he's got 100 more or 99 more?

[Yancey]

Buddy, he's 40 last year he's going to get 3035 this year. And yeah, I think that a guy who. And yeah, I couldn't be happier for the guy. He carried a lot of bad Islanders teams into playoffs. It's hard. He's never been to the conference finals. Right. So people tend to try to weigh the whole the team thing. No Stanley Cup, I don't believe he's won. Is he won a mate a major award? Like sometimes he's maybe won like a leadership award or something like that. But is he won like a, a, a, a Rocket or a Art Ross or. I don't think he might have wonder.

[Keith Yandle]

He might have won rookie of the Year Calder but.

[Yancey]

And also like he's 40's on international play. What he did in junior he got exceptional status. Like I think that this is, this is a, a future hall of Famer and I just wanted to congratulate him on 500 goals. 501 now as I mentioned. But I think that he's still got a lot of gas left in the tank and that's why I'm confident in this Leafs team.

[Biz Nasty]

He's got two more games to 1200. He's got, he's just under a point per game and he's got 18 points already in 14 games this year. So yeah, I, I picture John Tavares as a Hall of Famer, but yeah, you're right, no major awards. I think that's a big thing with voters. I know but that ends up mattering a lot.

[Yancey]

I think that if you're, if you're going to end up playing 1500 National Hockey League games and you're putting up consistent 30, 35 goal seasons and you go that type of run, like that's crazy. That to me is more impressive than someone being like, like no knock on Eric Lindross. I've. He was, he had like a three year stretch where he was like the.

[Biz Nasty]

Best player but like that's the, that's the difference. And I think it was longer than 3 years too I would say when.

[Yancey]

He was winning like MVP and like, like in like Art Ross's like there was like three years there where he was.

[Biz Nasty]

But yeah, but I, I think of the, the to. It's similar to Neely like when you're that dominant, right where you're like that guy is the best player in the league right now. That weighs a lot, right? Over consistency over 20 years. I know what you're saying, but I.

[Yancey]

Think, I think they're both impressive and they're both worthy in my opinion of the hall of Fame, especially when You've done what he's done out even outside of the NHL, like international play, Junior coming up, like being this phenom, living up to all the expectation, first overall pick. And also, fuck, man, those teams, like, we've talked to Matt Molson, we've talked to Aposto. Like he's put a lot of money in a lot of guys pockets to what he did in Long Island. And, and I was Talking with Liam McHugh about it too, and Liam was kind of like, eh, off the hop. And then he's like, no, you're right, he's a Hall of Famer.

[Ra]

So I.

[Yancey]

So either way, thank you to Rick Nash, hall of Famer and congrats to.

[Biz Nasty]

Jt and according to you, he'll have a Stanley cup this spring, so that shouldn't be an issue, right? I mean, you did kind of go.

[Yancey]

Against yourself there a little more deserving, right?

[Keith Yandle]

You. You.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, you don't think he's getting a ring? All right, people, now to a guy who has. This guy's got, this guy's got rings galore. This guy's been in more Stanley cup locker room celebrations than Serge Svard or Larry Robinson. This is Ra's World. Let's go.

[Ra]

Hello everybody. Welcome to Ari's World here on the Spitting Chicklets podcast. Boys, number three. It's been a blast so far. I've been loving the feedback from you guys, from the general public, giving out my classic recommendations, hoping some of these youngins are watching Casablanca maybe. But boys, I'm still on a sports high. I know you guys talked about the World Series already. In my lifetime, maybe the best World Series ever. I was pulling for Toronto. I have hated the Dodgers ever since I wore the Astros little league uniform back in the day. But I couldn't believe the amazing seven games. The defense, the hot attacks. LA was. They batted.203 for the series, outscored 34, 26, still managed to win, played great fundamental baseball biz. You talked about the guy making that. I mean, it wasn't the best catch by a fan, but that when that ball's coming out, you would steam out that to get your glove to make the catch was pretty cool. But then his throw, like the dichotomy of catching a home run ball. And then, I mean, he threw like my little sister when she was five years old.

[Yancey]

Like you throwing basketball.

[Ra]

Tough look, tough look for my guy. But, but anyways, there were a couple of things I wanted to mention more from the sportsmanship side. I don't know if you if you noticed this, but a lot of the Toronto pitches, particularly the relievers, they wrote 51 on the side of their hats, and that was for LA Dodger. The opposition relief pitcher, Alex Vessia, he was dealing with a very personal problem. He wasn't at the World Series. He didn't make the parade. He's dealing with a very, like, serious matter, from what I understand. But just the fact that these guys are going to battle every night and just might be a small thing, you might think, but to acknowledge the opposition and what he was going through, that really touched my heart. I thought it was a very wonderful thing. And, and, and even something as simple biz when, yeah, you know, Vlad Judy got in game seven and Yamamoto, by the way, pitching the next day. I mean, what a. What a balls. Like. And he gave that little hat tip that we see the Japanese pitchers do sometimes, and just the little pots of respect. And the final thing that really got my. Got my gut was, you know, Don Mattingly. I mean, I hate the Yankees, but I always love Don Mattingly. And when he was sitting there just staring out in the field and Boba comes behind him and gives him this hug and, man, it just reminds you of, I know, the sports. What's that? We watch for the game, but the humanity beneath it. And, And I thought there was so many examples of that. I, I just wanted to acknowledge those. They, they really touched my heart business.

[Yancey]

It was incredible the entire series. And like, I appreciate you coming back on and talking about it.

[Keith Yandle]

Ra.

[Yancey]

Now, do you know what the fifth, the player, the 51. Like, did they say what he's going through?

[Ra]

Like, I was hoping he wouldn't ask, but no. His wife was. Was due to give birth around the same time, and he's been away from the team for a while, so they haven't released details, but it's believed to be related to, you know, his wife giving. Due to give birth with the child. Details have been scarce and obviously it's a private matter and they should be, but it's believed to be tied to his pregnant wife, so.

[Yancey]

That's terrible.

[Ra]

Yeah, it's. It's tough, but. But again, just the acknowledgment, just, you know, they're all, they're all human beings at the end of the day, and I just wanted to, like, you know, acknowledge what those guys did. I thought it was, you know, a very nice gesture, so.

[Biz Nasty]

And RA, we did forget to mention Yamamoto's hat tip. Like, hey, good luck, here we go. Like, that was classy. And, And I guess it's similar to. Remember when Matsuyama won the Masters and his caddy took the flag off the 18th hole and then bowed down to the course. Like just pretty cool to see that respect for your competitor. From Yamamoto to Guerrero and. And Matsuyama's caddy to the course. That was a great call. And Mattingly. So the Yankees went on that dynasty right after him.

[Ra]

Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was basically between. Yeah, yeah, Yankees diet dynasty runs in the 70s, then the 90s. Yeah, he never got to a World Series. Donnie. Baseball.

[Yancey]

I don't even think we mentioned the fact that there is also in game seven, the bench clearing brawl. So when you say that was ridiculous.

[Biz Nasty]

That was that guy. I don't know what the hell was he thinking? Like, buddy, the pitcher was like, you think I'm. I think he's mowed. You think I'm trying to throw at you right now. Like, come on.

[Yancey]

Yeah, that was a hard old. A bit of a hard on move, move. But yeah, tensions are high. And then like it brought the benches out. So rights, right? Game seven, baby.

[Ra]

It was good stuff.

[Yancey]

What do you think cost the Jays the most? Like, what was the one moment where.

[Biz Nasty]

You'Re like, fuck, all right, betting on.

[Ra]

Him, small wager on him. Again, it was more anti dodges sentiment than anything else. And there were so many plays at the plate and bang, bang plays. The guy getting thrown at home and missing by that much. I, I forget which player it was because there was so much going on. I think if he had one more step of a lead, they would they win the World Series. And you know, he's going against a lefty reliever. What are the odds that this guy's going to try to pick you off at third and let the winner run score on, on a, you know, well, not a wild pitch.

[Biz Nasty]

It was more about getting doubled up. The way that it ended though.

[Ra]

Yeah, it's.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm with you, biz. No, I was just thinking, I don't think I've.

[Yancey]

I've gone down a rabbit hole of this online. You laugh.

[Biz Nasty]

I've been listening to picturing you doing that.

[Yancey]

Oh. And. And because. Because it was the one thing I noticed the most. One, one player, one player obviously stuck up for him and saying that, you know, you don't want that happening. But then one guy brought up the other point of like it wasn't like, it wasn't like you were trying to tie the game. You're going for the win. You can't. Like you, you, you. That to me Was the most aggravating part is like you can't, you can't play scared. And they did in that instance. Basically considering all these horrible variables which if you looked at the stats he never even hits that way that guy. If you go out in a bang bang play like that it. The other one from the game before was, was worse off because it didn't make sense. It was a fully bases loaded for the win.

[Ra]

So I'll.

[Yancey]

I'll throw it back over to you. I'm sorry I went down this rabbit hole.

[Ra]

No, I understand it's you know a tough loss and yeah too, too bad. I was rooting for that Toronto but. But I want to piggyback Matt Macklin. Salbrin, I know you just mentioned biz but eight goals.

[Biz Nasty]

He's your favorite player already. I see you tweeting non stop. You're obsessed with this guy.

[Ra]

Obsessed. When I look at the tonight's lineup, obviously the Bruins of my first game and then San Jose which is great because they usually the delay game out the west coast. I mean I said it last year with this kid like the way he plays the game. I mean he's only 19. He's going to be 19 for this whole season. His, his nice IQ, his vision. He, he was already playing the game like a veteran last year. I mean I said he's going to be a perennial hot and Selkie and Lindsay candidate. He may well be the one this year. You know, talking about the Olympics. I texted Coop during four nations saying is this kid going to be on your roster like back, you know, I knew obviously the roster was done but he had been playing it so well. Of course Coop replied with a Jaws gift which is that's why me and Coop speak the same language sometimes. So I love watching this kid play tied for the league scoring right now with McDavid. But he does have a game in hand so I wanted to give them a tip off and another team out west. I know I said they're going to go in the playoffs right here.

[Rick Nash]

Quack quack.

[Biz Nasty]

I think they should go back to.

[Ra]

Those uniforms, the OG ones.

[Biz Nasty]

I, I don't, I don't, I don't mind the home, the away all orange. I don't like. I, I think it's weird.

[Ra]

I, I wasn't crazy about them when they, you know, when they first come out but they definitely nostalgia in time. I definitely do like them now. But while we're talking about real quick, Leo Carlson five, 13, 18 and 12 games. They get five guys right now. Averaging at least a point per game on that team.

[Keith Yandle]

Team.

[Ra]

Just a great team to watch again, the west. Like, you got Utah, you got San Jose, you got Anaheim. There's. I think there's going to be a power hierarchy change over the next few seasons, and I'm here for it. Man.

[Yancey]

I couldn't agree with you more about the jerseys, Whip.

[Biz Nasty]

You like? Yeah, the. Or at least the aways are brutal.

[Rick Nash]

Too much.

[Yancey]

I think they're trying to draw in, like, the kid crowd and, like, draw like, hey, we're here.

[Biz Nasty]

Over. Yeah, it gives me PTSD from being called, like, a pylon and a cone. And it's like. Like you're just dressed. Dressing up defensemen to just get carved. You already look like a cone. You're getting treated like a cone. So maybe that's. That's on me. Maybe I need to talk to somebody about that.

[Ra]

And, you know, there's a good chance we're going to see some future hall of Famers, you know, for the next couple of years. And speaking of which, this is Hockey hall of Fame induction weekend up in Toronto. Eight members are going to be inducted on Monday night. Zaden Ochara. Duncan, Keith Alexander. Mogilney Joe Thornton, BU coach Jack Park, Jen Borderell, Brianna Decca, and Danielle Silver. Joe, we get six players going in, two builders, and, you know, Jen Bottle and Brianna Decca. These gals were essential in bringing women's hockey into the forefront in this century. You know, it was sort of an afterthought in the 90s, but because of these two and many other women as well, you know, women's hockey is talked about on a level that I've never seen in my lifetime. It's great. The doors that have been open, whether players, coaches, you know, friends of mine that thought of playing hockey years ago, I remember seeing eight years old, I says, man, she's better than the boys. And right now, she's the head coach at Malden Catholics women's team.

[Biz Nasty]

Over.

[Ra]

Over in Malden, here in Massachusetts, Shout out Alexa Hingston. She's done a great job. And, you know, not every woman can be a pro hockey player, but again, there's so many other options out there, just getting involved with the game. So I wanted to shout out those two as well.

[Biz Nasty]

All right, quickly on that. It is cool that. That all these girls growing up now, like, you could always go to NHL games and. And, you know, I'm sure as a dad, you wouldn't say, hey, you can't play here. You won't be able to play here. But now, like, at least my buddy, like, he brings his daughter. I think it's the Boston Fleet. Their jersey, I was in pure hockey. Like, they got great jerseys. They're selling a ton of those. And now it's like they're bringing their daughters and they're watching something that truly they. They could. They could dream and. And wish to be there someday. It's. Yeah, it's. It's awesome. It's really cool. And you're right, those two women had an enormous impact on them.

[Ra]

And Danielle Silver, Joe, she's the first female to go in the builder category in the history of the Hockey hall of Fame.

[Rick Nash]

No way.

[Ra]

Basically, she was a key cog for, you know, Team Canada women's squads for basically the last four decades, going back to the 90s. She was coaching them when they won the Olympic gold medal back in 20. I'm sorry, 2002. And also, she's a Mountie for 33 years, in addition to doing all this stuff with women's hockey and, you know, doing tremendous work for Team Canada, also a Mountie for 33 years, so. So shout out to her on that regard as well. And now for the. For the guys we watch play. I mean, I was lucky to see Z, you know, Keith McGilney, Big Joe, by the way, that puck right on my shoulder.

[Yancey]

Right.

[Ra]

Right there. Joe Thornton signed that Jan. 1, 1998, of his rookie season. He was a scratch versus Ottawa, and I bumped into him down the bowels of the guard. My boy Rizzo gave me a shop. He went over. I got the puck sign for him. So that's one of the few pucks I have.

[Biz Nasty]

And. And I guess the fear for many years when Moil wasn't getting in was that he wouldn't come if he got in. And I don't think he's coming.

[Rick Nash]

He's not. No.

[Ra]

He's gonna. He's gonna send a mess.

[Rick Nash]

You imagine.

[Ra]

I mean, it's kind of a power move, I guess, a weird. A weird way to, oh, he's not gonna come, or he doesn't care. And they. They bring him in and he start coming. But he is gonna send, like, in.

[Biz Nasty]

My mind, like, who cares if they're there? Exactly. He's a Hall of Famer, and, you.

[Ra]

Know, and we've been lucky on the show. You know, we could. We could tweet them out. We've been lucky to have and Duncan Keith on the show. I mean, Duncan Keith. I mean, it was years ago, I believe, in Chicago. I don't know if there's ever been a smoother cat who walks in the room and sit there and he just has like a vibe or an aura about him. Like you know, he's not like playing.

[Yancey]

30 minutes a game.

[Ra]

Yeah, he ice ice in his veins. So if you want to check those old interviews back and Charo is one of the few. Right. I did get a little shaky in the hands as a big Bruins guy. So go back, check those out on Jack Parker. Wait. Actually, I know you probably talked about him before but, but you know, BU coach, absolute legend in this year. Great to see him in with a true legend.

[Biz Nasty]

An amazing guy. Talk about like witty and funny and just. Man, this guy was demanding. He, he, he really helped players grow. Like I remember Jay Pandolfo when we interviewed, talked about what Jack Parker meant to him. I mean BU's got to be up there. I don't know where they sit in terms of having the most NHL from an NCAA program. They got to be right up there near, near anyone else.

[Yancey]

Else.

[Biz Nasty]

He was there for so long. National titles, bean pots hockey championship. I ran into him last year. I really, really want to like he's a sit down interview for me. So hopefully he'd agree. When we're all in town to do that, I'm going to try to set that up. Just an all time guy. And I'm. And I think for a long time ra. We. We brought up how he should be in the hall of Fame. Once Jerry York went in, it was like, all right, those two, the battles they had back and forth. And Jerry York had been at Bowling Green and then come over to bc. Jack Parker played at BU and coached at bu. That like it's Jack Parker, Jack Parker arena at, at a Gannis rink or Jack Parker rink at a Gannis arena for a reason. He had a funny line last year I ran into him, we were at practice. He's like, I'm going across the street to play tennis. I'm like, you're not, you're not playing pickleball. He's like, I'm not old enough to play pickleball. He's like 83 years old. So just an awesome guy. I'm so happy for him and I really want to sit down with him. All of us. I think it'd be an incredible interview. And Duncan Keith, same draft, left Michigan State I think during his freshman year to go to the whl, which was very surprising back then. That wasn't a normal thing. I don't know if it was after his freshman year or the Middle of the season. Then I saw him playing against him for the first time was he was on the Norfolk Admirals during the lockout season. I was in Wilkes Bear Y and I was like, holy. I was like, this kid's nasty. Like hopping very, very. What's the word for only original skating style. Similar kind of jump around. Yeah, similar to Schaer, a little bit Schaer's, I think bigger, but just like hopping around out there. Never get tired. I saw a. A quote came out from Brian Campbell who played in Chicago and Florida, who said he was. He was the best I ever played with. He was a. A minute eater. He played first power play, first penalty kill. He got all his teeth knocked out. Returned that game like the definition of a Hall of Famer in my mind. And. And when we met him, it was the first time I'd ever hung out with them. You're right. All right. Just a cool cat. Soft spoken, but you could tell just like he just showed up every single night, played 28 minutes, would get an assist or two and just dominate. So dope. I loved watching him play, man. I really did.

[Ra]

And I actually have photo evidence of me watching Jack Parker.

[Biz Nasty]

All right, that.

[Keith Yandle]

Look at that aluminum.

[Biz Nasty]

Is that the one you cried over? Was it the silver one?

[Yancey]

I got the silver one. Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

You kind of look like Peyton Manning there.

[Yancey]

Yeah, he is.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, you do.

[Ra]

I've heard that before. Definitely resembles in the forehead area is what I. Is what I usually hear.

[Biz Nasty]

But what's funny, that looks like. That looks like a. That the kid has a shamrock on the back of his BU helmet. Doesn't that shirt? That's no chance you're allowed to do now. My dad gave me some of those put on riders later. You know, you got to have a little good, good little shamrock on the back riders.

[Keith Yandle]

Like what is every one of Massachusetts?

[Biz Nasty]

You're a little Irish.

[Keith Yandle]

Hey, didn't Ra and Wit. Didn't Parker like. And Jerry York as well? Like, they had the aura around them like SEC coach has. Like when I was growing up, like, those guys were like. Like if you saw him at the rink, you like, oh my God, it's Jack Parker.

[Yancey]

Like, was your relationship with him when you played good, or is it just way different now because you're older and you're not playing for him?

[Keith Yandle]

I bet it's after the fact, right?

[Biz Nasty]

It's. It's way more after the fact with him where he, you know, he. Every former player, he sees, big hug, like, good conversation he had. I think anyone who played at BU would say that. That he had his favorites on each team. And maybe some guys, like, he used to say, you're in Mookville. You'd have to ride the bike Sunday morning, 6am if you were in trouble or in the Fat Club. I remember at my. The first day they could come, they came down for a visit at my house. Like, say it was July 1st going into your sophomore year of high school, Junior high school. So he comes down and. And I'm so nervous. Like, I grew up going to BU games and like, I'm going to be you. Like, there was never even. Even a chance I was going anywhere else. And my. My dad grilled up some steaks and my mom cooked, you know, the veggies and the corn. And we have a great meal. And then, you know, we're clearing up the plate. My dad's clearing up the plate. He brings it Vernon Road, I'll never forget. He brings the plate of corn up to the sink. And we're still talking at the kitchen. And then Big Danny gets over the sink, dude. And this guy started just crushing corn. I'm talking crabs. Another piece, dummy. And corn. And Parker looks over. He's like, Jesus, you don't need a disposal in this house with that guy. And my. I'll never forget, my dad just went like this. I looked down as he's holding the.

[Rick Nash]

Corn like a dog.

[Biz Nasty]

A lot of. A lot of an aura. Big time. He showed up to one of my high school games and like, both teams are like, jack Parker's here. Jack Parker's here. Like, it. It was. It was legendary biz.

[Keith Yandle]

You know why our dad, you know why our dads wanted our. Their kids to go to bu?

[Yancey]

Why?

[Keith Yandle]

They were the only arena in the Hockey east that sold beer at the. At the games.

[Biz Nasty]

They were the only arena country at the time that was selling beer.

[Rick Nash]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. Just. Just awesome memories of playing for him. He, you know, he gave me. He gave me the cage treatment a couple times.

[Rick Nash]

Just.

[Yancey]

Yeah. So, like, was it oftentimes when you. You came to the rink, like, you always had this like, not a nervous energy, but you were there to work and there wasn't a lot of around.

[Biz Nasty]

Like how was the practice was demanding. He would have. It kind of depended on the weekend you had prior or the weekend coming up if, you know, if you won both games and is a little looser. But then, you know, come Thursday, come Wednesday, Thursday, you got B.C. you got UNH. You got Maine. Like. Like, we're ready to practice right now. Like, there is no around. And he was just an expert at getting guys ready to play. And he was good at knowing times where I got to tell this kid to wake the fuck up. And I got to tell this kid, hey, great job. Like, I remember my junior year, the team was kind of struggling, and he came up and he's like, you were dominant this weekend. Like, and, and that wasn't huge. Like, he wasn't a huge, grab you and, like, pump your tires guy. But I think he knew when guys maybe needed it here and there he was. He was awesome. Awesome.

[Yancey]

That's awesome.

[Ra]

I, I, I do got a compliment be on my salad back in the day, too. Not, not so much the Peyton man. And I do got to point out I did have the BU sweatshirt on. You know, the player sweatshirt. You couldn't really make out the number, but that was number 24. And number 24. No, no, the last. The guy who wore it before Travis, who was playing that game. I was watching Big Walt. I had my big wall sweatshirt on that thing. It's a little, little trivia for you. And I guess Grinnell, you just sent to the, to the group. McGilvey has a severe fear of flying, so I'm sure that probably factors in why he won't be there Monday night.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, sure, he does.

[Ra]

Anyway, salute to all. To all the hall of Famers. And, you know, keep it with the hall of Fame thing. You know, I've been given some recommendations, but G had a good idea. Let's do your, your four hall of Fame shows to make a Mount Rushmore. And this is not easy to do, to pick four TV shows from the plethora of, like, tremendous TV, especially in the last 30, 40 years, the stuff we've been getting. But, but I gave it a go. I mean, there's, obviously, if you ask me, in a week, I might do it a little bit different, but I'm going to give my Mount Rushmore TV shows right now. And first up, I'm going to go with the Wire. I know this is probably obvious to a lot of people, but I don't think we'll ever see a TV show that comes close to what David Simon and HBO did. Biz. You know, it showed how a city breaks down. A great American city, Baltimore, you know, a great port city for many years, but it shows how a city falls into disrepair and how and why fixing it becomes almost an impossibility. And each season takes on a different theme. The first one was, you know, kids selling drugs in the projects. The second one was the Dark workers and the blue collar guys, like, you know, losing jobs and then they have to turn to other means to try to make up that last dough. Third season delves into the politicians and how shady they are and their roles in it. The fourth season, which is many people's favorite, is about the schools and how it affects these young kids. And, and, you know, I know people may see young kids in any city growing up in a tough environment, how the. After they turn out that way. And this, this season shows exactly how a young, innocent kid can turn out to become, you know, a psychopath, drug dealer or a killer. And you know, when it does it with. Without judgment and with empathy. And the fifth season delves into journalism's role in all this. And again, this is a show you need to put your phone down, you need to shut it off, put it away, and focus on, on every scene. Because if you turn your head for one second or two seconds, you might miss something that not even had dialogue, just a little scene in the background, and it will kind of throw off your whole understanding of the show. So. Yeah.

[Yancey]

How many seasons were there of the Wire? Only five.

[Ra]

Five seasons? Yeah.

[Yancey]

Okay, I didn't realize that.

[Keith Yandle]

Incredible.

[Yancey]

So going in now, do. Do the people that you see in season one intertwine with people in season two? So they're still on the show.

[Ra]

So that's the brilliance of it. It all intertwines. It all, all goes together. It's not like a anthology where the next season has, like, it's a completely new telling with different people. It all intertwines and it shows you how, again, it's just a brilliant show.

[Keith Yandle]

I can't believe you've never seen it. Biz.

[Yancey]

Yeah, so I started watching season one. I started watching season one. And I don't know if the disconnect of the, the gap in time is kind of what I guess turned me off of it. Like, sometimes when things come out, like Breaking Bad, like, like I started doing Breaking Bad, I think, like when season like three was out, so it was still kind of like, oh, okay. All of a sudden they're still winning all these awards and say, okay, I'll see what this is about. And it was obviously filmed, like, newer, but I'll, I'll, I'll give it another chance if that's a show. So that's you.

[Biz Nasty]

I've watched it. I've. I've watched it three times, I think, like, first time I watched it, say, 10 years ago, then I watched it three years later, and I watched it like two years ago and it. Every time it's like, oh, like I watched that first episode of season one. I'm like, like I know what I'm doing the next two weeks. Like when. When the kids go to bed or. It's like, it's just. It's excellent. And I actually recently was talking to a Boston police officer about that show Ra in, like how it shows how like, people who don't deserve to move up can move up based on who you know. And like it's. He's like, it's so true. Like how this all works and that one season. Well, you see that throughout all five seasons. But excellent, excellent choice there.

[Yancey]

That's number five.

[Ra]

Well, four. I didn't really necessarily put them one through four. Sort of Mount Rushmore. I mean, I don't think they really presidents that way. And yeah, to your point, when you, when you watch a show like this, the second or third time, you. You're not focusing on like the main thing, the mat. The macro, I guess. You're focus. You're looking at the background stuff. So you, you do catch all these things you might have missed the first time. So yeah, second and third viewings can be very rewarding on a show like this. And also this show, the. The second show I'm going to mention again, Captain Obvious here, but the Sopranos, you know, instead of showing how a city gets stuck in a rut and can't get out of its own way, the Sopranos does a similar thing, but with a guy, with one man. It's a mob show. Yes, the best mob show ever, but at its core, it's about Tony Soprano and how this guy is born into this world and you know, probably at the end of the day, not, Not a great guy, but. But it feels like he's trying to be better in some way. He's somewhat of a reluctant mob boss, but it's really about one man and just how he's dealing with. With all this stuff. And you know, the idea of a, the, the head of a mob going to a shrink was like unfathomable. He, you know, 25 years ago. It may still be in some mob factions, but it's really about one man and how he deals with all this. And just an absolutely a brilliant show. Again, another one that you, You, You. You got to put the phone away and pay attention to it. I know the latest seasons that some of the dream sequences, I, I know some of the people maybe got, you know, weren't crazy about all that stuff, but The. The last season. Last season and a half. You know, how they tie everything together and. And what I think was a brilliant ending. You know, I don't. Not a spoiler alert. A lot of people didn't understand it or didn't get it, but I think it was brilliant after I kind of got it and, you know, read up with what David Chase said about it, so. And we got to compliment James Gandolfini, too. We lost him. Christ, I can't believe 12 years ago. It's too bad we didn't get to see more of what he would have done. I think people thought he should hold this, you know, playing this mob blast, because he was Jersey. He probably grew up with guys like that. I mean, the accent, you know. You know, he had this imposing figure, but. But it was sad we lost him when we did. I think, again, they'll feed. You would have had so much more off. Now, Keith, I'm assuming you've seen the Sopranos at least once.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, yeah. See, I actually started watching it again recently, but my favorite thing about that is when they were filming, it was, you know, when the ducks would come to his pool and like that. And he came out one time, he had shorts on, and maybe it was at a barbecue, he had shorts on. And apparently when they were filming, he got a call from an actual mob boss and was like, hey, mob bosses do not wear shorts. So you'll never see him in shorts for the rest of that thing because it was like. Like, that's how much it made an impact. Like, even the. The mob bosses were watching a bit. So I thought that was pretty cool. But, yeah, I think that's the greatest show of all time. Wire probably number two.

[Yancey]

How many seasons of Sopranos?

[Ra]

Technically, six. But, like, they. I think the sixth one, they called it, like, six point, was six and a half. And so I was at 6.1 and 6.2. Basically, they. They were the first show to make a Last season stretched into two seasons.

[Yancey]

Yeah, like Breaking Bad did that too, then.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Ra]

So basically six seasons.

[Yancey]

So he was pounding the shrink. I could say that that's not that big of a story.

[Biz Nasty]

No, no, no.

[Keith Yandle]

He didn't pop this right.

[Biz Nasty]

He was in love. He was in. He was kind of in love with her a little bit. He's never. Never slept with her.

[Yancey]

Did he. Did they make out?

[Biz Nasty]

Nope. He remember when she was, like, raped. She was raped. And then, like, she was thinking about telling him what happened, but she knew he would kill the guy. Never did. And no, no, no, no.

[Yancey]

About, like, the. The dark of. The dark of what he was doing.

[Biz Nasty]

No, he wouldn't tell her details.

[Yancey]

Okay.

[Ra]

Yeah, but she knew, though. I mean, you know, he was a mob boss. And Keith, to your point with, you know, at the time the show was on, the FBI, you know, obviously had a lot of these guys, you know, wiretap, and they would hear actual FBI, I'm sorry, actual gangsters talking about the show and how much they actually loved the it, and they would criticize it in the FBI, you know, some real meta stuff going on. So, yeah, the Sopranos, again, not.

[Rick Nash]

Not.

[Ra]

Not a surprise there. You know, huge part of the American pop culture lexicon. Of course, if you're on Twitter or social media, all you do is see the memes all the time. Next up, it. This was a tough one for me. I had to put at least one comedy in there. I know drama tends to get the spotlight more. We do need some laughs. And it hurt. It hurt me to not put the Simpsons in the spot. But I do want to mention the first decade of the Simpsons, you know, some of the most brilliant writing in television history. But they're on season 37 now, and I'm gonna name Cheers as the next show because I'm gonna consider the whole body of work. Cheers was on for 11 seasons. It was brilliantly funny. For all those 11 seasons. They were 275 episodes. They were effortlessly, effortlessly replaced characters. Some left for, you know, work reasons. Some cast members passed away, and they brought in new members. But this show was part of the greatest TV lineup in TV history. Thursday night. Well, don't cancel me for saying this, but the first show, the Cosby show, then Family Ties, Cheers, Night Court, and it was finished off with Hill Street Blues with my. The best opening theme song ever. So it was just a phenomenal comedy. And it, you know, it's. It's not one where it's a. You gotta fall episode every episode to follow the story along. It's just. You could pop on a couple episodes here and there. I know it's on Paramount right now. I think Hulu has a few seasons, but we had to put a commie in here, maybe because I'm a Boston guy, but Cheers, the quintessential sitcom. So I'm gonna throw Cheers in here. Have you ever seen any. Any of it Biz? I know you dropping Canada.

[Yancey]

Yeah, I used to watch, like, Cheers used to be on, like, and I would just, like, see episodes and stuff. Like, I couldn't recall. Like, I know that they ran a bar Right. And then like the, the one guy was having a love affair with the one girl and that was kind of off and on, right?

[Ra]

Yeah, yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Played for the Red Sox. Sam.

[Ra]

Sam alone. Yeah, he was a former pitcher for the Red Sox. Opened the bar, you know, and then like I said, no, I'm Cliff. All these cast of characters, just like the perfect sitcom, I would say, just to do a show that, that good at that high level. And then the last episode, it was a huge to do and they were all on Jay Leno late night and they're all shit face biz. You could probably, you Google the clip, YouTube, they're all Hammond on the Jay Leno at the end of the night. And finally, again, probably a Captain Obvious here. You just mentioned it Biz. Breaking Bad. To me, Breaking Bad, it's just a classic story. And creator Vince Gilligan, he told the studio, he said, I, I want to make a story about a man who transforms himself from Mr. Chips into Scarface. Mr. Chips was an old movie about a beloved teacher. You know, obviously Scarface was, you know, was a gangster. Bryan Cranston, he starts as a nerdy chemistry professor, Walter White. He's diagnosed with lung cancer and he's struggling financially due to all the extra costs that people do get. Even when you have insurance in America, you still get pounded with all these costs because insurance never covers everything. And he's on a ride along with his DEA brother in law and. And during, he sees an old cost, an old student of his escape out the window and he brainstorms this idea like, oh, maybe I can sell meth on the side and make some money to make sure my family's financially secure when I'm not here. He pairs up with Jesse Pinkman, and over the next five seasons, 62 episodes, Breaking Bad manages to do what I think was impossible. It sticks every single landing, I think on that show. Like, how are they going to get out of this without being ridiculous? And every single time they would like pull it off. You know, sometimes it might be implausible in the real world, but every time they were in a situation, man, whoever it was, they always sort of stuck. The landed. And the ending was phenomenal the last episode. And it's also given us, I think, two of the best episodes of TV ever. Ozymandias, I believe, was the second or third last episode. And to Haja League, you know, when the stakes just get higher and higher, man, I mean, this is when you had to wait a week too. I mean, most people could stream everything all at Once. Not now, but just a phenomenal show. Biz. I. I know you just did. Have you watched it?

[Yancey]

So I would put that and True Detective season one as my. Like my. My goats. Yeah, I agree with you. It stuck the landing. It didn't. It never came off. And the way that they tied it all back together and I'll. I was one of those people, though. I wouldn't wait week to week. I would wait for the season to come out and then I would binge watch. I couldn't do the week to week. I just wanted to wait.

[Biz Nasty]

All right, the episode, weird name. It was incredible. Ozy. What is it?

[Ra]

Ay, Mandish. Yeah, yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Biz. That episode I watched when we were at camp with the blues and. And I remember like after that, I mean, I think anyone who's watched that show after that episode, you're just kind of sitting there like, what. What just happened? Incredible. Like the most. I think that show had some of the most shocking moments like that I can never remember. And to me, like, stuff. You're just like, what that. And. And. And we'd be remiss if we didn't mention we are a. A barstool sports podcast. Pardon my take, PFT commenter. He created that show. Do you know that biz?

[Yancey]

Which one?

[Biz Nasty]

Breaking Bad.

[Keith Yandle]

He moved to Austin to film.

[Biz Nasty]

He. Gee, can we look up the exact. He. He had an idea about having.

[Ra]

They wrote that. They wrote a script. So they wrote the basically, like a very, very similar script trip to like.

[Biz Nasty]

It'S like a kid and his professor cook meth.

[Ra]

It's the exact same storyline.

[Biz Nasty]

And then like a year later, Breaking Bad came out.

[Yancey]

Get the out of here.

[Biz Nasty]

Yes. Yeah.

[Ra]

Google it.

[Rick Nash]

Wrote it.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, well, Merles directed, wrote it and created it, but PFT was with.

[Yancey]

So I can't tell whether you're pulling.

[Biz Nasty]

My chain or not, buddy. Buddy. I'm telling you. PFT wrote a script of a high school teacher. Yeah, we. There. There is like a podcast episode where he describes what happened, but it's crazy. Crazy.

[Ra]

I heard Merle's invented meth too, by the way. Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Ra]

All right. So yeah, that's. That's the Mount Mount Rushmore TV shows weekly classic recommendation. I gave out Casablanca last week. I actually did get a few people feedback that they. One kid never heard of it before. He absolutely loved it. So, you know, there's no. This isn't homework. Yeah, you can. You can do it whenever, but I just want to pass it on. This week's. It's another HBO show Very underseen show. Did 63 episodes over five seasons from 2001 to 2005. That was Six Feet Under. Absolutely tremendous show. It's about a dysfunctional LA family that runs, you know, sort of a classic funeral home where the family lives above the home. You don't see this too, too much anymore. And then the first episode is. It's not a spoiler. The family patriarch, who's played by the great Richard Jenkins, he's killed in a car accident. And the show deals with how the family deals with the fallout, the aftermath of losing their dad. And the family now has to run the funeral home, which they didn't really particularly want to do, especially the now adult children. But the show, it's really about humanity, how everybody deals with their own messed up lives. No matter who you are or what you do for a living, I think there are things that relate to anybody on the show. It might not be for everybody. I think people watch the first couple episodes and realize, oh, this is great, or. But they may tap out. But what's cool about it is cool. Maybe in quotes, is every episode opens with a death. Like the first scene is always somebody dying. It could be as innocuous as somebody going to sleep and having a heart attack in bed. Or it could be just some like weird, crazy, cruel way that somebody dies. Like one episode, not really spoiler, you know, airplane was flying ahead, you know, the blue ice from the, from the bathroom falls out and hits a lady in the head and kills her. So it deals with all these different ways. Sometimes the death relates to that episode, sometimes it doesn't. But. But again, the show, it's about the human condition and the up lives we all lead. And yes, death is a part of it. The writing, acting, top notch in the series finale, I would say probably the best I've ever seen. Don't watch it on YouTube. You can, but don't. You gotta earn it. Watch all the other 62 episodes before it so you get the proper emotional payoff. It's on hbo. Hbo, Max, whatever it's called nowadays. But Six Feet Under, Legit, one of my favorite shows, really flies under the radar. Has anybody on the panel seen it?

[Biz Nasty]

No. I finished a great show on HBO though, called Task. You watched? Oh yeah, I loved it. I thought it was unreal.

[Ra]

Yeah, I got that. Actually, my recommendations, we, we pushed down for another week, but we can discuss in depth. Maybe next week we talk about it.

[Keith Yandle]

But I think I texted you to watch that. Ra.

[Ra]

Yeah, yeah, we DM tonight because I. I wrote about a couple weeks ago on blog that and the picture hit, which is another show we'll get to a little bit later. Up and up, grinding my gears this weekend. I'm actually going to hat tip to our pal John Bucha Gross on this one. And it's why, you know, guys shouldn't have to wait to no longer be with us to get in the hall of Fame. And I'm going to go back to Bucci's tweet back in June. You know, why do hall of Fames wait until people die? Why do they adhere to arbitrary categorical rules that really mean nothing and can be changed with fewer than 12 words? Hall of Fame simply tell a story and ceremonies give someone a chance to feel love from family and friends. Friends and adoring strangers. Otherwise the built these buildings are really meaningless. So I really agree with Boochie sentiment here. And you know, we shouldn't have another Pat Burns situation where a man who should have been in the hall of Fame years before, unfortunately it came posthumously after we lost him and he wasn't able to, you know, enjoy the adoration. And Pat Burns, no, you know, great guy, great coach and knowing him, he may not have cared for the adoration just because, because of how he was. But, you know, if you're going to be in any hall of Fame, you should be there to enjoy it. And the Hockey hall of Fame, you know, they can make their own rules. They're their own, their own, you know, establishment. They can make exceptions. And he specifically mentions Boochie does, you know, Don Cherry and Barry Melrose, these, these are two guys who've given their life to the game. They should probably, probably already be in just for what they've done. So, yeah, I just want to echo it with Boots said that, you know, let's maybe honor these guys while they're still with us rather than do it after the fact because, you know, the family and the honoree should be able to enjoy it while they're still alive. And again, again, I don't think we should have any more Pat Burns situations in that regard. So.

[Biz Nasty]

No doubt, no doubt.

[Yancey]

That's a good point.

[Biz Nasty]

I can't believe Don Cherry's not in the hall of Fame. Like, yeah, yeah, I think Barry Melrose deserves to get in there, too. But Don Cherry, it's like, what are we doing here?

[Ra]

Grapes? Absolute, absolute legend of the game. And rounding up, I've got my picks this week. We made some money last week, boys. I gave out the Ducks moneyline and puck line Friday versus The Wings easy money unfortunately Dallas the next day they hit a post latent regulation, then two in the shutout so lost. That basically offset the Ducks win. But this weekend I'm looking at Saturday in Toronto Bruins Leafs. We don't know the goalies yet, we don't know the lines but if the over under is six and a half or lower take the over over six and a half I think it's probably going to be six and a half but whatever over six and a half or six Bruins leaf Saturday night. Don't know who's in that but I could see high scoring a fair. The Leafs always seem to have high scoring affairs. And then Saturday night as well. Tampa is going to be back from a western road swing facing the Capitals. Tampa's going to have a bit of a break after this game. Not playing again to Wednesday. This will be the Cap's third game in four nights. Teams tend to tire out a little bit in those games I believe. So if Vasilevsky is a net for Tampa Bay Saturday, we're riding with the lightning like Metallica style. Over to the NFL.

[Biz Nasty]

You gave us the Panthers that Panthers.

[Ra]

Win NFL last week since he we looked like we were going to get a while late cover and the money line but of course the Bengals bungled it once again blew it late, lost the game outright. But thanks to Carolina wit. What'd I say last week they were 13 a half. I said buy it up to 14 and put 20% of your investment on the money line. Well Carolina plus 701 outright in green Bay.

[Yancey]

Wow, that's a hit.

[Ra]

And this weekend Arizona is at Seattle. The line is six and a half. This game is essentially Arizona season. If they win, they're still alive. If they lose, they're done. So so they played Seattle pretty tough a couple weeks ago. So take the Cards. Buy the spread up though. Buy it up to seven and a half. Pay the extra vig, take it up to seven and a half. They're in Seattle, but I think the Cards they're going to hang in there could even win Cardinals plus the seven and a half. And then San Fran at home getting four and a half versus their longtime rival the Rams. I think that's too many points for a home team in a big divisional rival game like this. So take the four and a half with the Niners and we'll go from there. So yeah, last week very profitable for backers and and hopefully we do it again this week. Boys, it's been a pleasure. It's been a blast being Back and yeah, turn it over, you guys.

[Yancey]

As we wrap up the show, Yance, your boy, Chris Bork.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, yes, speaking of hall of Fame, Chris Bork, one of my longtime friends just got inducted into the AHL hall of Fame. Amazing for him. I'm so happy for him and his family. AHL legend, legend off the ice. Couldn't be more happy for him. Like just, just, just the guy, like he came in the league biz and you, I'm sure you played against him in the minors. Like the AHL wasn't made really for small players. And the way that he played, it was impressive. Like Ned Haven told the story. Like when, when Chris was on the ice and he had the puck, it was like he was a six year old out there, just like snapping it around, having fun. So one of the guys that I owe a lot of credit to for helping me get to where I was, he pushed me every day in high school. We skated every single day. He was the best player at our age, I think, and it's a good topic to bring up at some other point, but I think he's the best high school player I've ever seen. I know already you might say like Robbie Fatoric or. No, no, you could say T.C. harris. Like there, there are guys that you can make the argument. But I think he was the best high school player in Massachusetts history. And yeah, couldn't be more happy for him and in his family that he got into the hall of Fame. I'm pumped for him.

[Yancey]

Him played against him in the American League. Absolute gamer. Like, there's nothing really else to say, man. Like the playoff time, you won three Calder Cups. And I think honestly, if, if not for his size, he probably would have been a dominant NHL player. Right? But I'm not trying to take anything away from him because like, you know, in the age.

[Biz Nasty]

Maybe now, maybe like, yeah, maybe now.

[Yancey]

But he, he was dominant, man, and he was part of those great runs and, and, and also like he didn't fucking back down either, man. He was a fucking dog. Like he was. We would have some big time rival games between us and Wilkes Hershey and Wilkes Baron. He was, you know, he was in the fight every game. Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

So congratulations. He'd spear you, right? Spit your face, but no problem doing that. Also scored the OT winner to win a bean pot championship at bu just one year there. So Borky's the best. So happy for him. So congratulations. And to finish the show, just a reminder that we got the breast cancer merchandise that's on sale Also for November 100 of the net proceeds go to 540. So that's a stored up Barstool Sports.com so, RA awesome job. Very happy you brought up all those hall of Fame guys. And yep, should be a fun, fun introduction for them. And we'll see you guys Monday. RA Last thing, you guys.

[Ra]

Yeah, I'm glad you said it. NHL Network Monday at 8pm the induction's on. And for our friends up north, TSN4 and TSN5, check it out.

[Keith Yandle]

Wow.

[Yancey]

R.A. is buzzing.

[Biz Nasty]

Thank you to R.A. thank you to Rick Nash and thank you to everyone right now. Whether you're watching on YouTube or listening, we love you guys. It's awesome. With two episodes a week, we're having a blast. And we'll see you Monday, 2 o' clock Eastern.

[Rick Nash]

Love you all.

[Keith Yandle]

It won't happen, won't happen, won't happen.

[Rick Nash]

Again Won't happen, won't happen, won't happen again A bad habit worth breaking but it's taking time.

[Biz Nasty]

I don't know.

[Rick Nash]

Don't let it it's going to happen it's going to happen again.

[Keith Yandle]

When cool, creamy ranch meets tangy bold.

[Ra]

Buffalo, the whole is greater than the sum of its sauce. Say how Partner to new buffalo ranch.

[Keith Yandle]

Sauce only at McDonald's for a limited time.

[Yancey]

A participating McDonald's.