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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 599: Featuring Andrew Ladd, Mason West & The Wonton Don
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Ryan Whitney
Hey Spit and Chiclets listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime.
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Andrew Ladd
Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.
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Keith Yandle
Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed.
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Ryan Whitney
To the jungle that is Barstool sports.
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Biz Nasty
I brought it towards the coyotes and I asked them if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chicklets podcast full time.
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Ryan Whitney
Ryan Whitney. You got a pink Whitney out there. Now.
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Biz Nasty
The song man.
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Ryan Whitney
Is a full time member. Marley just got. This is from Chris Me.
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Keith Yandle
Whoa. We're buzzing right now.
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Ryan Whitney
What is up folks? Welcome to episode 599 of the Spitting Chickens podcast. Coming up on 600 and this is one of my favorite weeks of the year, guys. Thanksgiving. What an incredible time to be around friends and family. My brothers are coming home. I'm all fired up.
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Keith Yandle
But.
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Ryan Whitney
But first we got to talk about Discover. Guys. This episode is presented to you by Discover. We're sponsored by Discover, the official credit card of the NHL, the National Hockey League. No matter if your team wins or loses, Discover is there for you with cash back on all of your post game purchases. With the Discover it card, you earn cash back on every purchase. So celebratory wings just got even better. Learn more@discover.com credit card cash back on team gear, cash back on tickets, cash back on flag fries, etc. Etc. The Discover NHL Winter Classic is taking place on January 2, 2026 in Miami. Welcome to Miami. Tune into TNT. Get cash back on every purchase the Discover it card. Learn more@discover.com credit card what is up? I'm buzzing right now, guys. Sunday afternoon and let me tell you, bizarre. We talked about peeking that Keith and I had got to see it already. Phenomenal. The feedback's been amazing and people loved our bagger. Besides those AI heroes that you told to suck fart out of your bum hole. The public loved the video. They loved it.
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Biz Nasty
They love it. They love it. Great responses on both. I'm so happy to see you boys. There is. There's so much to talk about. I know I am, I am giddy and I also sat around this weekend and did nothing. I sat around in my, my track, see those boys. I got so much rest and just chilled and I watched a movie that wasn't There Will Be Blood.
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Ryan Whitney
When you sent that, that text, that picture, I, I actually like, I was like, I'm so proud of you man. Like I, I was like he'll never do it. And for people who are curious when been telling this guy to watch Heat for years and RA was on your, on your case and all of a sudden, we get a. A still image of a scene at the end. And I said, oh, my God, he did it. He did it. It was like the Grinch, like, loving Christmas. Like my. My. My soul was full.
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Keith Yandle
Yep.
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Biz Nasty
I. I've never got a text from you so quickly back. Like, you just. It's like the minute I hit send, you were replying that you were so proud of me. It's like Ryder hitting his first drive, you know, Squanto punching his first neighbor in the face but going, what did.
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Keith Yandle
You think of it, Biz?
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Biz Nasty
I thought it was incredible. There was like. It could have like, I'm gonna get on for saying this. I feel like there was a few parts where it was like the skyline where it could have used a little bit of AI.
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Ryan Whitney
It could. That's actually where I'll go with the AI people. And I'll come to your house with a pitchfork and a fire.
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Biz Nasty
No, buddy, they were using. It felt like in a. In like two or three of the scenes. They were using cgi, but it was back then and it. It killed a bit of the authenticity for. For how great that movie was. Like, it was a. It was a 9.8 out of 10.
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Ryan Whitney
I mean, that's all you want right there.
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Biz Nasty
The fact that you have two lead actors going. I. I could. On the spot right now. I can't think of another movie where you have two heavy hitters like that as. As actors going back and forth. Like. Can you give me an example?
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Ryan Whitney
Well, your guy. I mean, your.
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Biz Nasty
Your.
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Ryan Whitney
There Will Be Blood OG Daniel Day Lewis was head to head with Leo and gangs in New York.
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Biz Nasty
Ra.
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Ryan Whitney
Must be honest.
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Biz Nasty
I. I felt that Daniel Day Lewis carried Leo in that. In that movie.
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Ryan Whitney
Yeah. He was amazing. That. That movie wasn't very good, I don't think. But you. But I'm just thinking of two big dogs.
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Biz Nasty
Yeah. I would. I would put heat above it.
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Ryan Whitney
So he was like crossfield. When they both had the hat trick in the conference finals. Like, it was just toe to toe.
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Biz Nasty
What an example.
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Ryan Whitney
Right? Like, there's like two of the greatest that are both performing at a high level.
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Andrew Ladd
Whereas.
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Ryan Whitney
Thanks. In New York, Leo. Okay.
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Biz Nasty
Did you just pull that out of your ass?
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Ryan Whitney
That pulled it right out of my ear. How about my ears?
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Biz Nasty
Unreal.
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Keith Yandle
That movie was in 1995 too. So you can. You gotta realize that some of the stuff isn't going to be as good, but the plot and the. The shootout scene, like, everything's still. It ages.
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Biz Nasty
Well, I don't think I've ever Seen a better natural shootout scene. It felt real to me.
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Ryan Whitney
Yeah, very real. Very felt. Feel like you're on the street and, and I'm just so thankful you watched it, man. Just to have something else to talk to you about other than the, you know, the sun going deaf and the oil thing exploding and like, you know, the bowling alley scene at the end, it was like, I need something else to talk to this guy about.
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Biz Nasty
With film and the, the respect and the symbolic kind of handshake when Al Pacino puts his hand out to him. When it's all said and done, it just. Yes, definitely a lot more of a happier ending than, than a priest getting his head bashed in with a bowling pin. I can, I can really agree with you on that one. But going back to the two other things peaking. Awesome response. Thank you very much. I said it last pod. Like I felt like it was already a success before it came out. And I had such an enjoyable time with, with Corey and Tyler and, and, and Wonton, who spent so much time and energy on the back end editing it and putting this thing together. Like one thing that Donnie, not only is he super intelligent, but he's a great storyteller. Like his narration and, and, and like the silly type of sentences he uses in order to put these masterpieces that he creates together. He's phenomenal at it. So credit to those guys for the edit and, and everything they were able to do in post.
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Ryan Whitney
And Dawn's coming on today. We're going to be able to chat with him a little bit later.
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Biz Nasty
Yeah. And, and you guys will see, those of you who don't know him real well and maybe are very wrapped up into the hockey world and don't follow Barstool. Just a, a highly, highly intelligent, intelligent, fascinating guy. And, and, and we'll talk to him on the back half, the bagger. I mean the lot of, lot, lot of bitching. Also about the birdie. We didn't talk about the birdie last week.
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Ryan Whitney
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. So what has happened here, folks? And listen, I, I love doing the shots. There's times I'm like, this is out of control because the three on three scramble. And another thing, people are like, I like the two on two better. I'm gonna give you a Whitney sucker fart out of my butthole. It's Heath Biz and I, we're getting an extra guy to do these with. Scrambles are way more fun. I never thought I'd say that, but when you're with six Guys, it's awesome. And it. I'm not very good at golf anymore, and it's just more enjoyable for us. So once again, take a hike. It's still a lot of fun, but the drinking, it get. I mean, that.
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Biz Nasty
That's.
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Ryan Whitney
That. That episode, there was 10 shots, like, I. Everyone out there who's had pink whitney and maybe 10 shots in a four hour span. You're smothered. You're smothered. And after we had the. The. The sandbagger with foreplay and Riggs literally, like, unresponsive, like, can't walk, can't talk, can't see, can't do anything.
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Biz Nasty
But he can hit the ball.
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Ryan Whitney
But he can hit the ball. And I think that. I think there was some maybe concerns, like, all right, these guys are, like, obviously pretty waffled. They're driving around in golf carts. I don't think it's a message we want. So this is not our choice. We're not allowed.
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Biz Nasty
It was a request from the top, but we can understand where it's coming from. But it's also a testament to you guys and also the. The. The Bruins guys. You guys do 10 of these things, and you're still piping drives. Like, you guys are better at golf when you're smothered on pink Whitney.
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Ryan Whitney
So that's not good.
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Keith Yandle
Keith.
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Ryan Whitney
That's not good.
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Keith Yandle
Oh, no, it's not good. It was actually. It was good that it was videoed because I don't remember from hole 7 on. I didn't remember I watched anything that went on.
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Ryan Whitney
I watched that video.
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Keith Yandle
I remember if we won or lost.
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Ryan Whitney
I. The 13th hole, I birdied it. I was like, oh, dude, I. And I'm pretty good. My golf memory is a little, like, unreal. It's crazy kind of rain, man. And I was like, I don't even. And I. I know that course.
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Biz Nasty
The.
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Ryan Whitney
The 15th hole, when we decided to, like, just almost give the match away by putting lefty and righty and missed a three foot, I was like that. That I passed a lie detector test.
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Biz Nasty
You guys were still making better decisions than me, though. And I hadn't had one shot.
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Ryan Whitney
So I want to thank everyone for watching. Go tune in. We have another special one coming out pretty soon and then a third before the end of the year. So shout out Pasha. He does an awesome job. And everyone be quiet with your complaints, man. It's Thanksgiving week. Just enjoy. Enjoy what you have.
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Biz Nasty
I never thought I'd heard you say, suck a fart out of your butthole.
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Ryan Whitney
Yeah, I. But I Three on three scrambles. I love doing those with you guys. Biz. I loved us doing it because at that time I was like, better, and I wanted to play golf and play my own ball. Now I'm like, dude, I don't really play as much golf and I'm not that good. And now we got Keith in the mix. It's like, this is dream. It started with Bob does, and I was like, this is the way.
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Biz Nasty
Now I would definitely say that, like, I hated letting you down because, like, when you didn't hit a good shot, then I had to. Or we are done. Now that it's three, man, like, we might use, you know, six to ten of my shots in a round. And I love that. Like, that's way more pressure off of me. And Yance takes pressure off of you. I agree. I love the three on three, but that's the beauty about where we're going with the sandbagger. So you just mentioned we have two more coming out. Well, the next one's you two versus me and Paige. And then the following one is it's me and the Duke versus you two. So we are going to continue these two on two dynamics. I've also taught with. With the. The popularity of the Internet Invitational, I think it would be cool to. To go somewhere like Cabot or. Or maybe Gazer and do like a. Like a mini tournament. What if you got like, you know, eight different teams of three and you did. I thought of this one. If you did four teams of three, you play each. You play each group nine holes on one day. So one day you're doing 27 holes and then the. I know that's a lot, right?
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Ryan Whitney
No, not a lot. If you're not drinking pink, Whitney.
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Biz Nasty
No, no, no. I think we would obviously say maybe you. You do a shot every. Every two birdies or three birdies, your own group gets like, that's part of it. So that. So by the end of the day, you might have 10 like. Or like eight, eight to 10 shots, which you're still going to be smothered. But he's gonna love this one. But at least it's over the course of a full day. And we'll make sure you get some carbs in you too.
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Keith Yandle
Yeah.
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Ryan Whitney
Big pasta meal out on the course.
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Biz Nasty
So then. So then based on scoring there, one would play four the next day. As the first seed, though, you would have to get an advantage. Like, you would maybe get one stroke, maybe. I think one stroke would be a nice advantage for getting the top seed versus four and you would play nine and then two would play verse three. And then the championship match would be, I think, nine holes. Or you could do another 27 that day and make the final 18. But.
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Ryan Whitney
Yeah, you like the final 18? Yeah.
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Biz Nasty
Really? I feel like the micro nines, it's like things happen quick. You gotta, you know, you can't up. You gotta bring it.
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Ryan Whitney
So it took you seven years to watch another movie. So I know your brain. Other people can handle not having micro nines going. We got enough micro penises watching this thing in the chat and one of the hosts. So let's be 18 for the championship. Let's stick with.
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Keith Yandle
I think we need to have us versus Luke Kwan at some point.
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Ryan Whitney
Yeah, he would have to play all of us. Yeah, like he's that good, right? I saw a clip. Melosi today was on a thing and he says the rangefinder was never on. He said it had it on. First hole was told it was off and then he said, I swear I never had it on. So you know what I said a thousand percent, it was on. It's Thanksgiving week. I'm thankful for what I have. I probably shouldn't have said that. I believe Melosi now. I'm not gonna not believe this guy on Thanksgiving week if he's standing in front of a camera saying, I never had the thing on.
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Keith Yandle
That's about next week. What about next week? Are you believing him?
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Ryan Whitney
I don't think so, no. Right before Christmas, I'm actually shopping for gifts, everyone. And then I'm like, he had it on. But yeah, Luke Kwan would be funny. I think PFT's doing something with him or planning something with him. So that'd be pretty cool.
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Biz Nasty
Oh, awesome. Yeah. Though that whole thing, to wrap that up though, you know, I gotta thank the boys, all the people who helped film the bagger as well. Nick, AKA Luke, he's got a new nickname. I called. I called Nikki Luke this week because we're going to interview Luke Robitaille, which will go down, I think is my top 10 interview in Chiclet's history. I was laughing my off the entire time. The story about him on the power play, I'm not going to give it away. I could. I couldn't believe it. Anyway, obviously Posh G Fish. Logan's usually there. Was he there for the Bruins one? Gee, you can hop on and help.
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Ryan Whitney
I don't remember the Bruins one.
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Keith Yandle
We did a Bruins one.
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Andrew Ladd
I believe he was there for that one. But then we moved on to a different guy who helped us out Was Nate.
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Biz Nasty
And.
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Andrew Ladd
And it's been awesome.
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Biz Nasty
Any other names? I'm for loving Fasuli.
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Andrew Ladd
You gotta give facility a shout out.
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Ryan Whitney
He's always Facoli.
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Andrew Ladd
Right.
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Biz Nasty
Facility. But thank you to our whole team who gets all this stuff done. Just like I thank the editors like the boys who did peaking. Like these guys grind. They're on the course all day holding up a camera for us to. To provide our fans with entertainment. And then, of course, the. The main man, Pasha. We love you, Posh. And not only is Pasha providing some of the best content we have, his team is now providing what could be the biggest hockey story since McDavid entered the league. I don't think we need to hop in it quite yet, but I'll just. I'll tease it at that. So. Tapasha, I will kiss you on the forehead. You are providing a lot to what's going on. And the last thing I'll say for the Spit and Chicklets YouTube channel that just hit 427, 000 followers. Chiclets. You Mike Grinnell's favorite one. I think he said to date in Maine just because it was at Noah's Ark in that arena. So. Oh, we got a trailer for the new Chicklets. You.
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Ryan Whitney
We want to be the best developmental.
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Andrew Ladd
Program in college hockey.
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Ryan Whitney
We have a pure hockey environment up here. You are playing for the whole state of Maine.
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Andrew Ladd
All right, I'm out of here.
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Keith Yandle
I'm out.
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Andrew Ladd
I'm out of here, Monty. I'm out of here, buddy. This is mine now, Monty.
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Ryan Whitney
He probably tried to sell that for cash. You knowing Mer, I love how G.
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Keith Yandle
Sits in the stuff. Student sections for those games. Gets right in the mix. He looks like a college kid still, so it's hilarious.
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Ryan Whitney
I. I also. Mer sends us these videos. I wake up to him Sunday night, the west coast game, right? For NHL. It's like, dude, I can't believe he's up. He had Farabee to score a goal. He hit the post on an empty netter. And then we wake up to the video, and it's just every night, the guy has a bad beat. It's incredible. You gotta love Murray as a national. National championship trophy now. So shout out him. And you know what? College G's college show. Chicklets. You kind of leads me into what I want to talk about first today. And it's actually not NHL related. Just quickly. What a story. What a story about hometowns, sticking with playing more sports than just one and being loyal. And that's Mason west, the Chicago Blackhawks draft Pick, first round draft pick last year out of a Dinah high school. And the story was told he was going back to a Dinahai and for the first half of the year going to school there because he was not done playing football. He had a state championship for Dinahe's hockey team. He ends up being a first round pick last summer. He was only a junior last year. And at this point, guys like Forget being a first round pick when you're 14, even younger, which is just sad to say. Kids are not, they're not playing other sports. And this kid was not like that. He always played football. And they lost in the state championship game his sophomore year for football. And then they lost, I think not even in the title game in the playoffs his junior. He said, I have unfinished business. And the Chicago. And he told every team in all the interviews, listen, I understand that. I want to be open with you though. I'm playing football this year. And then he was going, and he is now going to be in Fargo in the ushl. He said, I got a state championship in hockey my sophomore year. I, I gotta get one in football. Six foot seven, quarterback. They ended up winning it all, man. And the moment, the video of this kid, you could tell he's got his helmet on and stuff, but you could tell he's pretty emotional. And he's taken the last, the last snap and he's taken a knee and they got it done. And it was like I was thinking for this kid, not only is it the, not only is it the, the, the pride and, and the happiness and getting a state title for his hometown, it's like, holy, I did this. I didn't get hurt. We actually won. Like, like that's just, it's such a cool story in a day and age where kids are not, they're not playing other sports and it's ridiculous and there's been studies and it's been proven if you're 10, 11, 12, 13 years old, like you become more athletic, you may love hockey and that may be your dream, but do other things don't get.
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Donnie Does
Oh yeah.
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Ryan Whitney
And he never gave in. And I just quickly biz before I go over to one of you two guys I wrote down today. So their path to winning it all, they defeated three higher seeds. They avenged two regular season losses. They rallied in the, in the fourth quarter three times from fourth quarter deficits. And they won four games that were decided by seven points or less. So like this kid, man, congrats to him. Congrats to Adina. What a story.
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Biz Nasty
In a, that is nuts.
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Ryan Whitney
In a time when, when indo. Individualization, I believe is the word stay hot is just.
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Keith Yandle
It's.
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Ryan Whitney
It's too often that it happens.
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Biz Nasty
And he's the starting quarterback, six, seven.
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Ryan Whitney
And a first round pick in the NHL.
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Biz Nasty
It's like he's six seven, six seven.
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Ryan Whitney
Oh, maybe God, this guy that is 41.
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Biz Nasty
Hey, shout out to him also for, for being upfront and honest to all the teams saying, hey, this is a risk I'm gonna take. And some people might say, well, you know, hockey, you're playing more games, you're probably dealing maybe with more hits. Especially now that quarterbacks. I feel the rules help them a bit. Yeah, but, but nonetheless, buddy, like I, I went to a football practice for Notre Dame High School when I. Because like at the time, like I didn't know where hockey was going to take me. I believe contact had just started and you know, you know, we had great mentors and people at high school were like, hey, you're a big kid, you're athletic. Like you could maybe be like a tight end or something.
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Ryan Whitney
Oh yeah.
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Biz Nasty
So I went out for like the first day to kind of like lear basics of football. And my, my. One of my close buddies, Mike Pitchell, he snapped his ankle first practice and I'm like this. I. That was the last time I, I went to football practice. So that practice, one practice. And, and, and also because I'm like, I don't think I'm as like likely to get like a nasty injury from hockey than I am football. Maybe I'm completely off base here, but I mean when you're an NHL draft pick and you're that much closer to making the NHL than probably that he would be. Football, like, what are this kid's chances of now getting like a, a D1 scholarship for football?
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Ryan Whitney
I think he's had, I think he, he has offers like being that big. I saw some videos of the throws the kids making. Like in the final game he was just seven for seven. But the goalie on the Edina High school hockey team was the running back had six rushing touchdowns. So this town and this state, I've been very clear there is nobody that does it like Minnesota with youth sports and playing for your town. It's an incredible thing that I. Bravo. I pray to the state of Minnesota don't change, don't fall into the disgusting nastiness like Massachusetts has where it is now a for profit business that's all for money. It is still about the kids. It's still about youth sports. And playing other sports in that state and it's awesome. And in all the, you know, hopefully this kid goes on to. To have a 15 year NHL career and make millions. But like the memories he'll have from sticking to his guns and going back and do that, it's just, it's.
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Biz Nasty
So why are you. Why are you selling them short? I said 15 years talking 15 years. I said on this podcast at some point in the history of our planet that you. You laugh, bro.
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Ryan Whitney
There is going to be a. I stick to that. No football, hockey players, football, baseball.
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Biz Nasty
I guarantee I'm gonna Mason Chicago Bears should.
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Keith Yandle
Should draft them.
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Ryan Whitney
What are the chances? Do you think it's more likely biz that there is an athlete playing in the NHL and the NFL in the same season or an NHL player with a straight stick that plays righty and lefty during games?
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Keith Yandle
B.
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Ryan Whitney
Me too. I would say crazy.
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Biz Nasty
I would say B. But I'm not counting out A. I'm not counting out A. I said that it would happen at a certain point and what are the ch. If I would have said that this would have happened with this kid, this scenario, you would have laughed. You would have laughed at me if I said that.
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Ryan Whitney
Well, no, because. And I forgot to mention this one of this kid's. I'm not gonna say mentor. I don't know if they're close, but I know Anders Lee was a big person he looked up to. Anders Lee was the quarterback at a Dinah High, stayed and played his senior year and wore number nine. And that's what Mason Westmore. So I'm. I'm guessing that that was.
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Biz Nasty
Did he win a high school title and a football title?
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Ryan Whitney
I don't know how many people have done that up G. You know what.
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Keith Yandle
I like most about the whole story is what you said in those stats. Like they had. They had to beat teams ranked higher than him. It's not like he was coming back to like this team that was automatically gonna win it. Like he knew he had to put in the work. He knew that it wasn't going to be handed to them but that just complete animal status from this guy to go back do that. Imagine his first day of back at high school.
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Ryan Whitney
Like what that he could realistically have a statue built in the town of him. Yeah, like I mean this kid's an all time legend in. In Cake Eater Central a Dinah Minnesota shout out Justin Miser. So yeah, it's awesome. Cake Eater there that was from. That was added Banks was from a Dinah in Mighty Ducks and they called Them cake eater. Oh, I think it's a pretty. I think it's a pretty affluent neighborhood. How about my vocab today?
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Biz Nasty
You're buzzing.
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Keith Yandle
Thanks.
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Biz Nasty
You're buzzing. Hey, I just got a question from G. Does it count if he plays in the CFL and the NHL?
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Keith Yandle
No.
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Ryan Whitney
Yeah, I'll give you it. I'll give you it. He's a Saskatchewan Rough Rider. He's an Ottawa Rough Rider. And then he's a Columbus Blue Jacket. And we got it all.
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Biz Nasty
We got the trifecta when it's humming right now.
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Keith Yandle
Teams, two of them name the Rough Riders.
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Biz Nasty
Yeah.
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Ryan Whitney
I mean, he threw for 7, 600 yards and 93 TDs in his career at high school. Like, that's in.
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Keith Yandle
His running back is the goalie. Like, when does that ever translate?
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Biz Nasty
What position does he play in hockey?
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Keith Yandle
Forward. Bully.
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Biz Nasty
Forward.
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Ryan Whitney
Big old forward. Oh, physical.
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Biz Nasty
Does he chuck him?
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Ryan Whitney
I don't know. I don't. He played 10 games in the USHL last year. He had like point per game. That probably was a big part of why he got picked by Chicago late.
- [24:47]
Biz Nasty
You ever seen Anders Lee's quads? Could you imagine him as a running back?
- [24:52]
Ryan Whitney
No, that's. I've seen that guy's legs Crosby esque. And shout out the Blackhawks. They let him do it. I mean, not that they really had a choice because he told them, but Kyle Davidson was at a game this year. I think the vice president of the team lives around there. Yeah. Yeah, they went to a game when, when, when they, when Chicago's in town for the rookie tournament. Minnesota. So an awesome story. Instead, have your kids play.
- [25:13]
Keith Yandle
You got to get him on.
- [25:15]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, I, I, I'm, I'm in the midst of trying to do that. My dog. Hook it up. Hook it up. We're going to go to the NHL now. And, and not even a crazy week. We got a long show coming up for here and I'm excited to be here for a long time. But I, I gotta bring up Jack Hughes. This guy, even with a cast on, even with a messed up hand from a broken glass, he's, he's making news, Bis. He's making news. He's out on date with I guess one of the top rocket launchers in the game, Tate McCray. And, and now. Yeah. Question is, is that her? People said no. Then the picture comes out with the shirt on. I feel kind of odd talking about a girl with a belly shirt on out to eat with a what? A 24 year old? But Pasha.
- [25:55]
Biz Nasty
Oh, people are still questioning this. I thought this was 100%. This is it. This is a thing.
- [26:01]
Ryan Whitney
Same earring. That was her. That's her.
- [26:03]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, that's her.
- [26:05]
Biz Nasty
This is ridiculous. The picture of Frank the Tank. Pasha, can you confirm that that's real?
- [26:12]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, that's real.
- [26:13]
Andrew Ladd
I saw another post of them, like, walking down the street.
- [26:15]
Ryan Whitney
Someone snapped a photo of them.
- [26:17]
Andrew Ladd
So, yeah, I mean, I love to see that. Just two people, top performers in their respective fields. I love it. I love it.
- [26:26]
Biz Nasty
I, I, I. You guys think I'm stupid, but this could be the biggest thing to happen to the league since McDavid came in. You guys all.
- [26:36]
Ryan Whitney
If it was Margot Robbie, I'd give you that. Like, is Tate McCray that world? No.
- [26:44]
Biz Nasty
Three nights in a row. What do you do? Are you done?
- [26:48]
Andrew Ladd
Pasha, I said I would argue that Tay McCray has almost more pole than, like.
- [26:53]
Ryan Whitney
Than Margot Robbie.
- [26:55]
Biz Nasty
100. We're talking about today's version of. Of Britney Spears. She.
- [27:00]
Keith Yandle
She's like, just under Taylor Swift with.
- [27:03]
Biz Nasty
Holy. I think that she could sell out the Garden three, four nights in a row if she wanted to.
- [27:09]
Ryan Whitney
Wow.
- [27:10]
Biz Nasty
She's not doing the yet, but she's. She is it, buddy.
- [27:14]
Keith Yandle
And.
- [27:14]
Biz Nasty
And people, all the talkie traditionalists are like, ah, buddy, you know what? The NHL needs her in the. In the boxes at every Devil's game, you know? You know where else they need her? At the Olympics.
- [27:26]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah.
- [27:26]
Biz Nasty
Imagine her at the Olympics. Gold medal game, Canada versus us. You're doubling your viewership.
- [27:32]
Andrew Ladd
Oh, no.
- [27:32]
Ryan Whitney
I thought you're actually making a team.
- [27:34]
Keith Yandle
According to what.
- [27:34]
Ryan Whitney
And by the way, Pasha, like, I. I hate the guy, but as you just said, she could sell out MSG 3, four nights in a row. You didn't hear? He goes Prudential center. Like, that's why I love him. That's why I love him. Because that's such an insane comment that, like, we're talking about Jack Hughes and a celebrity, and he's like, no, no, no, no. But it won't be at msg. Like, he's a nut. I almost want to get him off now.
- [27:54]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, get him off. What is it the movie. You know, the movie Draft day. Is it draft day or Moneyball? And they're like, yeah, have you seen the guy's girlfriend? And they don't draft them because the guy.
- [28:03]
Ryan Whitney
Moneyball, Money, ugly girlfriend.
- [28:05]
Keith Yandle
Like, you got to have so much props for a guy when. If your best player is wheeling and dealing in a lister biz like that. That's just good camaraderie for the locker room.
- [28:15]
Biz Nasty
Oh, I. I Think it's so massive for the league. I think every single owner of every team should be begging that this thing goes down and they end up getting engaged and married.
- [28:25]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, I would. I'm with you now. I didn't know it would bump up.
- [28:28]
Biz Nasty
Franchise values 10 to 15. You guys think I'm crazy.
- [28:32]
Keith Yandle
I know you're not.
- [28:32]
Biz Nasty
If they're putting her on the. If they're putting her on the Jumbotron, putting her on tv. This is the NHL. Taylor Swift, Travis Kel's situation all over again. But here's a little twist. Taylor Swift never dated another NFLer. She was once with Cole Cylinger. So there's another guy this like, add that spice into the mix, boys. Like, this is unbelievable for us.
- [29:00]
Ryan Whitney
There could be. There could be teams coming into the league expansion and the fee could be 50, 15 billion biz if this goes away. You're seeing Jack now? Yeah. I didn't know she was that famous, so I'm glad I was corrected there. I. I love it. And Keith said it best on the group chat when this news broke. He said we need the best NHL players with celebrities. And. And I'm with you now. I'm with you Biz. It's all about the money. Hey, more money to the owners means more money to the players. We're a player podcast, so good for Jack Hughes. Even injured making the news, making that or my other.
- [29:33]
Biz Nasty
Here's my other theory. Is that you. Okay, so where. Where is hockey Team Canada?
- [29:39]
Ryan Whitney
Where.
- [29:39]
Donnie Does
Where's.
- [29:40]
Biz Nasty
Where does. Where's the location of. Of Team Canada?
- [29:42]
Ryan Whitney
Calgary.
- [29:43]
Biz Nasty
Where's Tate McCray from?
- [29:46]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, you think this is an inside job Inside?
- [29:49]
Biz Nasty
I think this. I think she could be a potential mole for Team Canada. I think that they thought there was some funny business with the. The Chicago cut incident. It reeked of a.
- [29:59]
Andrew Ladd
Like a.
- [29:59]
Biz Nasty
Some sort of setup maybe. Ltiring a bunch of the. The Team America World police and getting them proper rest heading into Italy. I think that this could be a mole for Canada.
- [30:11]
Keith Yandle
Jack, if you're listening, do not tell Tate anything about the team.
- [30:15]
Ryan Whitney
Don't watch what do it.
- [30:16]
Biz Nasty
What I could see how.
- [30:17]
Ryan Whitney
Tell her anything.
- [30:18]
Biz Nasty
This is my theory. This is my theory. She's. They. They start dating. It's the Olympics come around. It's a huge story. She's in attendance. Like the whole world's watching. And then she picks a fight with him on the gold medal game day when they're playing Canada and he's off.
- [30:36]
Ryan Whitney
And then if Canada wins, she's out there with Celebrini at center ice. That would be.
- [30:42]
Biz Nasty
I'm not.
- [30:42]
Ryan Whitney
I. I might have to be like, USA Hockey. Like, I don't know how we recover from this now. We're probably getting a little ridiculous here.
- [30:52]
Keith Yandle
Really.
- [30:52]
Ryan Whitney
Also, I.
- [30:54]
Biz Nasty
You don't like my. You don't. You don't like my theory?
- [30:56]
Ryan Whitney
I hate your theory. I actually like. I'm down with your theories on Thanksgiving week, man. Really am. I'm down with them. And, and I also got to say, like, it's been a tough go for team USA and all of our players and all these guys are going to play key roles with injuries. Like, it's been kind of shitty, man. We've been dealing with a lot. And the most recent news is that our star goalie, MVP of the NHL Vesna Trophy winner, Connor Hellebuck is out for four to six weeks. So that's. That's scary. I don't like that. I wonder how Winnipeg plays while he's out. But we have a former Jet right now that's coming on the show to join us. A hell of a career and a two time Stanley cup champ, Andrew Ladd. Let's bring this guy in. G. I can't believe you got him on what's up Ladder.
- [31:42]
Biz Nasty
What a setup.
- [31:43]
Andrew Ladd
What's up fellas?
- [31:44]
Keith Yandle
Do we get some cups behind him?
- [31:46]
Biz Nasty
He's shooting.
- [31:48]
Andrew Ladd
Do we get some new hats or what?
- [31:50]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, yeah. And we didn't even talk about all wearing the different versions. Can you believe our chemistry Thanksgiving week ladder?
- [31:56]
Andrew Ladd
That is chemistry, buddy.
- [31:58]
Ryan Whitney
I know.
- [31:58]
Biz Nasty
I send you some merch.
- [32:00]
Ryan Whitney
What's going on with you? Where are you at these days?
- [32:03]
Andrew Ladd
I'm in Kelowna with every, every retired NHLR in Western Canada.
- [32:10]
Ryan Whitney
That's. How many guys are there? Huh?
- [32:11]
Andrew Ladd
Oh, yeah, we got quite a few. So, I mean like Mike Smith, Wade Redden, Shea Weber, Cody Franson, Jordan Tutu. I'm sure I'm missing some, but a.
- [32:23]
Ryan Whitney
Lot of current guys there in the summer. So, like, good skates, buddy.
- [32:26]
Keith Yandle
They.
- [32:26]
Biz Nasty
They have the best summer skates. They have like two, two different squads.
- [32:30]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, there's been kind of like, since our group has kind of retired, there's been a new group of younger NHL guys that are spending more time here, which is.
- [32:38]
Biz Nasty
Which is fun to see Ladder. Do you guys do the, the men's league?
- [32:42]
Andrew Ladd
Do you guys still skate the Thursday night hockey league? Yeah, we do. So we got a great crew. Thursday nights all those guys play and it's. It's like a 9pm start and it's. It is. It's an awesome time.
- [32:58]
Ryan Whitney
Has there been a fight in one of those games?
- [33:00]
Biz Nasty
Oh yeah. Toots is probably running guys through the glass.
- [33:03]
Andrew Ladd
Toots runs everybody. So Toots is fun to watch. I think this, there's. So we got Todd Simpson and Kent Simpson. This is predated. Like I just got in. This is. We. You can't just get in. Like you gotta wait, wait your turn. So I just got in this year, but I think Todd and Kent have had a fight from what I've heard. And for the most part it's pretty relaxed. But there is, there's some intense moments.
- [33:28]
Ryan Whitney
How much hockey are you watching these days and stuff? Like, what's your involvement with the game? Like, do you miss it? I mean we all miss it, but what's your, what's your hockey knowledge? What's your puck knowing knowledge? Right now?
- [33:40]
Andrew Ladd
It's pretty. I would say so. I'm very involved with my kid. My kids are 12, 11 and 9. They all play. So I, I've, I'm coaching all their teams. So from like a development standpoint, I'm very involved with how are we developing kids. We have a foundation which we'll get into maybe later but like there's, it's called 1616 where we're, we have a program for 10 to 12 year old kid like kids in the game that works on the mental side of the game. And then I, I actually we, I work for an executive coaching firm called Novus Global which is. And I'm the director of their sport division. So we work with franchises top to bottom, leadership, cultural aspects of the game and then one on one with athletes in, in every professional sport. So I'm pretty involved. Just, I just have a bunch of different ways that I've stayed involved in the game while being able to stay here and obviously be connected with the family after the game.
- [34:38]
Biz Nasty
Yeah. Was, was there a period of time where you maybe took a little bit of time off and it was just family, like right at the start because it, it sounds like you're, you're busy. One of the, one of the hard things when you retire is like all of a sudden like you know, staying busy and not like thinking about not being in the locker room anymore. So it's hard.
- [34:55]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, I took about a year and I was working with a coach when I retired and, and part of it was like, he's like, what do you want to do next? And I'm like, holy shit. I haven't been, I haven't answered or even thought about that question since I was like 9 years old. So it, like, put my. My brain in a little bit of a pretzel, and then it was like, okay, what do I want my life to look like? So I definitely a priority for me was like, being with my kids before and after school, which is actually why I love what I do, because I can do most of it from Kelowna here. I can be involved in all their hockey and still have something that gives me purpose and keeps me in the game.
- [35:32]
Keith Yandle
And we were just talking about the Mason west kid who played a Dyna football drafted by Chicago. Like, with your kids and kids that you're helping out, are you teaching them playing more than one sport or are you. Is it just hockey specific?
- [35:45]
Andrew Ladd
No, my kids play everything. They. They all do, and they will as. As long as we. We can keep getting them in all the different places. But they play baseball, they play flag football. We were in Arizona at the end of my career, and flag football was there. They. They got into it. My boys did there. So they continue to play football here. Hockey's a big one. And then they do jiu jitsu, they do rock climbing. They do all sorts of stuff. So I'm a. I'm a massive believer in just being an athlete and doing a bunch of different stuff as long as you can.
- [36:15]
Biz Nasty
Is that a Kelowna Rockets hat?
- [36:17]
Andrew Ladd
It says that that's what happens when you coach in Kelowna. You get like, six of these every year, every team.
- [36:23]
Biz Nasty
That is because I was looking at your hockey db. I'm like, I don't think you ever played for Kelowna.
- [36:27]
Andrew Ladd
I did not. I played a lot of different places, but not Kelowna.
- [36:31]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah. Your logo.
- [36:32]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, it's awesome. They got a pretty good program. You still, right?
- [36:36]
Andrew Ladd
They do, yeah. They're hosting the Memorial cup this year, so they're. They're not doing so hot right now. So they're. They had. I think they traded for a bunch of talented kids and they're trying to. To put the pieces together right now.
- [36:47]
Ryan Whitney
I actually saw that where there was some Instagram, like cologne is guaranteed to be in by hosting. And they're like, not looking great even in the. Forget the whole chl. But we mentioned that. That you played in Winnipeg and just looking. It was hellebox rookie year that you played with him, huh?
- [37:02]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah. Yeah. So he was just getting there when. When I was, I guess, on my way out at that time. So I remember, like, we made playoffs that year and he was kind of the third goalie, so he was out There practicing with. With us at that time.
- [37:17]
Ryan Whitney
But you could tell, though, what was coming.
- [37:20]
Andrew Ladd
You can tell? Yeah. There's been two goalies where I was like, you could tell right away as soon as you shoot on them. He was one, and then Ilya Sorokin was the other, where I was like, okay, yeah, these guys are gonna be good.
- [37:32]
Biz Nasty
Why Sorokin? Like, what was it about it?
- [37:35]
Andrew Ladd
Oh, man, he. It was that. So that was in the bubble during COVID year. He came over and I wasn't playing with. I was with the Islanders at a time, and I still. At the end of practice, the first time, he's out there, and they begged the. Out of him the first day. I think Mitch Corn, who's a goalie guru, like, actually, I don't know if it was him, might have been someone else, but that his first ice time, they almost made him puke. He was all sorts of stuff. So we got on. On the ice with them the next day, and at the end of practice, he. He, like grabs me. He's like, shoot up. Shoot up. So I grabbed five pucks, and we kind of do that. Five pucks at the top of the dot and just shoot. And I think I. I went four for five. Just like, lit him up and like, I was just gonna get off the ice, and he's like, no, again.
- [38:20]
Donnie Does
Again.
- [38:21]
Andrew Ladd
So I'm like, okay. The next time I was. I was like, two for five. And then he's. I was. Same thing. Like, again, again. I'm like, okay. And then after that, I couldn't.
- [38:31]
Ryan Whitney
I couldn't score him ever again.
- [38:36]
Biz Nasty
Collect the information on how you release the puck and he would figure you out.
- [38:39]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, I think he was part of. I'm sure it was like, smaller ranks when he was just trying to get his angles and. And figure it out. And like, so his ability to, like, problem solved. But obviously, like, there's a determination him in. In him that I was like, holy crap, man.
- [38:53]
Keith Yandle
Like, this.
- [38:54]
Andrew Ladd
This guy wants to be really good. And physically, he just had all the tools, so. So he was fun to see. Kind of come in. Into that. That organization.
- [39:03]
Biz Nasty
And same thing with Hellebok. Like, what was your time like with him? I mean, it's going to be a tough loss for the jets right now. They. They. I mean, I feel like he's been healthy every year since he's been there.
- [39:12]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, Bucky was like, he's just like, from a. From a pure size, there's. There's such different goalies, but from a pure size perspective, man, he takes up so much net and he's so patient in there. So I think as a shooter early on you could tell, like, his patience in the net was like, was really strong. He didn't give you a whole lot, so you had to hit the perfect shot. Otherwise, you know, you're hitting him in the shoulder or, you know, low block or whatever. So you could kind of see that.
- [39:41]
Ryan Whitney
Right off the hop, looking at your career. Right. Like, I think most people, when they think your name, think of that Chicago Blackhawks 2010 championship, and it's almost like an afterthought that you were a part of that Carolina Stanley cup winning team and kind of up and down throughout the year, but played a pretty big role in the playoffs. I'd like to hear more about that one because the qualifying offer disaster team in Chicago is a whole different story. You, that season, like, were you up and down or was once you, once you got called up, were you there for good and then the playoffs?
- [40:12]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, so I, I, I got called up early on in the year, I think maybe like November. And, and then I played, I played seven games that first year. And then I, I tore my meniscus in my knee. So I had, I had a good start. I think I had four goals in seven games. And then we were on the west coast trip in Arizona actually, and hurt my knee. So then after, like, I rehabbed and kind of, I was with the team that whole time. And then they sent me back down to, to Lowell, Lowell, Mass. At that time. So I spent, I spent probably maybe another month, two, three weeks. And then actually Air Coal broke his.
- [40:55]
Ryan Whitney
Neck or pit him. I remember that.
- [40:58]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah. So, and that, that was kind of like he got hurt and then he was the reason that they called me back up. And then I was kind of in and out of the lineup towards the end of the year. I missed the first round of the playoffs. I remember watching in, in Jersey. Sorry. We played Montreal, so I watched Montreal, and then I watched most of the series with Jersey, and then I got in at the end of that series with Jersey. And then from that point on, I was, it was me, Ray, Ray Whitney and Matt Cullen. So I was riding shotgun with those guys, which was, was pretty awesome. Yeah.
- [41:30]
Biz Nasty
Oh, go ahead. Yeah, sorry.
- [41:31]
Keith Yandle
No, I did. I was just gonna say that must have been a whirlwind for you, like, just watching those games even, like, were you thinking, hey, I might get in where the coach is talking?
- [41:41]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, I, I mean, stay ready. Yeah, I, I think that was something I like that whole veteran group I was so lucky to come into a team with like, Rod Brindemore and Glenn Wesley, Brett Heddikin, Ray Whitney, Kevin Adams. And then we, we obviously added Mark Rechy and Dougie Waite as the year went on. So, like, as a young guy, watching them work day in and day out, like, there was a level of, like, work ethic that they instilled in everybody. So as a young guy, I was just like, I'm just gonna work and then if I get in, I get in, but I'm gonna be. Stay, stay ready. So I was always hopeful but didn't know when it was gonna happen. And then luckily when it, when it did happen, I was ready for that opportunity. And I think I brought a different, maybe style play at that point was more running around and finishing checks and creating space for, for Cully and Wit, who obviously are some pretty skilled players.
- [42:34]
Biz Nasty
Pretty magical run, right? Like, I mean, that was when Eric Stahl, like, really established superstardom. I feel like it was Cam Ward, the. Did he win the Con Smythe?
- [42:43]
Andrew Ladd
Wordle on the Con Smythe? Yeah. Yeah. And it was. That was interesting too, because him and Martin Gerber were back and forth the whole year, essentially with who was starting, and Gerb started in the playoffs, and then Wardo kind of took over in the Buffalo series and never, never looked back. So he was there, Staller was there. So we had an interesting group of like, younger, obviously up and comers, and then a massively veteran group, a guy like Corey Stillman who had won a cup in Tampa Bay and then came to us. And so Jimmy Rutherford did a great job out of that lockout of really putting together a team that could play that new style when there was like no clutch and grab. And it was kind of the first shift of how the game started changing with, with more speed.
- [43:27]
Biz Nasty
Would. Did you know Rod was going to be a coach? Like, would he talk about maybe being a coach when he retired? Because, like, I mean, that must have been so fun to be in the locker room with that type of leader and just like, how was he psycho, too, in the locker room, like now?
- [43:42]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, I mean, you just. There's a certain level of intensity. Like, you'd come in, he was the first guy there, you'd walk in and he'd have his Jordan high tops on with his, his shorts from his first year in Carolina and his, you know, his shirt's all tattered and ripped up and he's ripping off squats. So there's a certain level of intensity, but, like, also thoughtfulness with him. Like, he. He wasn't a loud, boisterous guy, obviously, but, like, he would. He would have no problem grabbing. Grabbing you and having a conversation with you. So he. I always said his intuition on what was going on in the room was. Was extremely high, and he knew when. When. When the right time to speak was. So I'm. I'm not surprised that he's a coach. I think there's a lot of guys I think you think of, and it's like, if they're. If they're willing to put in the time and effort, because that is such a massive time commitment after you're done playing, then it. It wouldn't be a surprise, but might have surprised me a little bit that he. He wanted to continue to go down that road.
- [44:40]
Ryan Whitney
That's such a. Incredible quality, what you said. Just like the intuition of knowing maybe who needs. Like, hey, let's. I'm gonna go chat with this kid. He's 23 years old. He hasn't played great in the past few games. So I'm wondering for you, that year, first year pro, you missed the first round, you get in the lineup, you're up three one, Pasani scores an OT game five, then you go to Edmonton, get your doors blown off, and you're going back to Carolina. For you, you must have been like, what's happening? Or was it more like, I'm just kind of going with this thing right now. Like, I'm lucky to be playing.
- [45:10]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, well, there's a little bit of both. Like, I think at that age, you're like deer in a headlights and.
- [45:16]
Donnie Does
Yeah.
- [45:17]
Andrew Ladd
Which actually is helpful. Like, there was. You're putting less pressure on the situation, which allows you to stay, to show up and play without that level of weight on your shoulders. But that was a moment like Roddy in particular spoke up after that Game six, and I think it's something that all of us would remember. And it was really kind of just like leveling out the group, saying, hey, like, we got one game at home to win the Stanley cup. Like, if we would have had that opportunity to start a year, like, you know, everybody in the room's putting their hands up saying, hey, like, we can take advantage of that moment. So I think when he did that, it kind of refocused us as we were going home and allowed us just to be like, hey, like, we. We just need to play our game, have the right level of detail with this group, and if we do that, we'll. We'll give ourselves a chance to win.
- [46:01]
Biz Nasty
Do you remember the details of that game more than any other game you've ever played? Like, can you. Could you go through, like, how, like, the waves of the game?
- [46:10]
Andrew Ladd
You know, it's fine. People, like, I, like, cannot remember when it comes to, like, games. Like, some guys can. Like, Patrick Sharp would be able to, like, rip off, like, details of every aspect of the game. And I'm like, I, like, I can't even remember what games I played in. But the only thing I remember is, like, I. That was the most nervous I've been the last two minutes of a game or even, like, 30 seconds, because, like, we were up by one, and then, you know, so they're pulling the goalie. And then Willie ended up getting. Justin Williams ended up getting the empty netter. Like, just like, there was just a nod. Like, I've never been this nervous in my entire life to, like, get through the last minute of a game.
- [46:46]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, because when you won in. In Philly, it's like, so, you know, you're not holding on to Elite. It was just Kane or burying it.
- [46:52]
Biz Nasty
That was a weird one, too. Eh? Nobody knew. It was only Kaner celebrating. And I think everyone. Everyone's like, whoa, whoa, whoa here.
- [46:58]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah.
- [46:59]
Ryan Whitney
And he knew.
- [47:00]
Andrew Ladd
He knew, man, Right away, I. I was actually. I was in front of the net, so I'm like the other guy in the picture, you know, like, so I'm literally facing at the. The other end of the ring because I'm battling in front. And then I just. I, you know, the puck goes. It went to, I guess to my right at that time, but he. He just took off. So. But if I ever trusted anybody that sees a buck go in, I'm trusting that guy.
- [47:26]
Ryan Whitney
And quickly back. Back to the Carolina Cup. Like, the city of Edmonton, they had. They had Dwayne Rollison rolling, and you were in the middle of that. You were in the middle of that collision. And no. Yeah. Mark Andre Bergeron, I think you bumped into him and boom, roll us in. Liquid Dwayno was done for the series.
- [47:43]
Biz Nasty
Oh, no.
- [47:44]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah.
- [47:45]
Keith Yandle
Too strong.
- [47:46]
Andrew Ladd
That was game one. I. I was driving the net, and I don't have the best boots to begin with, so I was driving the net and Mark Andre Bergeron kind of came to like, like, pinch me off right at the net, and he hit me and I lost it and then went right into to Dwayne, and that was the end of. Of his. Of his series, unfortunately.
- [48:07]
Biz Nasty
Were you getting, like, death threats? And in Edmonton, I don't.
- [48:11]
Andrew Ladd
We didn't really have, like, Twitter or anything at that time. Right. So I. I wasn't. I was.
- [48:15]
Biz Nasty
Because you'll be getting.
- [48:21]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, yeah.
- [48:23]
Biz Nasty
You must not have got the messages at the front desk at a hotel. Eh?
- [48:26]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, yeah. So. But they had Big George, so to say. I wasn't nervous about Big George after there.
- [48:31]
Biz Nasty
Come to think of it, I got 16 leaners on that trip. Turns floating right in the middle of my room. Oh, I was just gonna. Wasn't there another situation? Was it. Was it Kiprios who landed on Curtis Joseph or what was the one? It's. I think someone got landed. Maybe it was Grant Fuhrer.
- [48:53]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, I mean, I can barely remember my games. I don't. I can't remember.
- [48:56]
Biz Nasty
Yeah. Oh, I kind of like that.
- [48:58]
Ryan Whitney
Where, like we talked about that. I don't remember who that was.
- [49:01]
Keith Yandle
I think it was grand fear in St. Louis.
- [49:03]
Biz Nasty
Yeah.
- [49:05]
Ryan Whitney
Sorry, can this one. You guys have the volume on. Do you hear that?
- [49:08]
Keith Yandle
I don't know what that is.
- [49:09]
Ryan Whitney
You could hear what we were saying like a playback. Oh, maybe.
- [49:13]
Biz Nasty
I think that's why.
- [49:16]
Ryan Whitney
Maybe he was watching the show live before he came on.
- [49:20]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, something's going on. I can hear that too now. Well, we're gonna get him back.
- [49:28]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, maybe I'll pretend I'm him.
- [49:30]
Keith Yandle
Just ask me questions. Okay.
- [49:32]
Biz Nasty
Ladder.
- [49:33]
Ryan Whitney
How heavy is the cup?
- [49:35]
Keith Yandle
I think 36 pounds.
- [49:39]
Biz Nasty
I was gonna ask you a lotter. How pickled did you get with the boys when you guys met up for Duncan Keith's hall of Fame induction?
- [49:45]
Keith Yandle
Oh, my God, it was unbelievable. I hadn't seen those guys in probably like seven years. And just to be in the same room with them honoring Duncan Keith, like automatic first ballot hall of Famer. The guy did everything, you know, just put. Put us on his back, honestly, most of the time. And he could skate, he could shoot, he was tough. Just an all around great guy and an unbelievable teammate as well.
- [50:06]
Biz Nasty
Who had the. Who had the stinkiest farts on the team when you guys won that cup?
- [50:10]
Keith Yandle
Oh, for sure. Shawzi.
- [50:13]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [50:14]
Keith Yandle
He's a smelly part.
- [50:15]
Ryan Whitney
I don't even know if he was on that cup team. But what about. What about from. From 0 to 10? 0 being the most angry and 10 being the most happy when you were traded from Stanley cup champion Blackhawks to the Atlanta Thrashers, where. What was your thought on that 10 being the happiest? Yeah.
- [50:34]
Keith Yandle
Minus 74. You know, I was just.
- [50:39]
Biz Nasty
Oh, you didn't like Cheetahs or Magic City?
- [50:43]
Keith Yandle
The Wing. The Wings at Magic City were really good. Me and. Who's the basketball player, Lou Williams. We were always hanging out there, so that was fun. But other than that. Yeah, it was like Chicago. And then you. You know, you see the dynasty going on, and I'm just in Atlanta, you.
- [50:59]
Biz Nasty
Know, what was it like? What was it like playing with a. A young Jonathan Toews? And more importantly, Patty Kane. He was a bit of a wild man back then, dude.
- [51:09]
Keith Yandle
I mean, driving his Hummer up and down. What's the Main Michigan have?
- [51:14]
Ryan Whitney
I think.
- [51:14]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, yeah, yeah, You. Oh, it was unbelievable. So fine. Be hanging out of the roof, yelling at everyone. It was awesome. We had a blast, man. Such a good time. Completely different guys, too. Kaner and Taves, like, just two different guys.
- [51:28]
Biz Nasty
Oh, hey there, Ladder.
- [51:29]
Keith Yandle
Who's that?
- [51:30]
Andrew Ladd
I think I'm.
- [51:30]
Ryan Whitney
That.
- [51:30]
Andrew Ladd
You guys are doing great.
- [51:32]
Biz Nasty
You guys actually do look alike.
- [51:35]
Ryan Whitney
You do actually look.
- [51:36]
Biz Nasty
They look identical.
- [51:37]
Ryan Whitney
To get a Chiclets lid on this.
- [51:38]
Andrew Ladd
Guy side by side. Yeah.
- [51:41]
Ryan Whitney
Well, one thing we didn't ask, Keith Ladder, is you were on the greatest world Junior team ever assembled. That's quite clear. I think it was Grand Forks, North Dakota.
- [51:52]
Andrew Ladd
Yes, sir.
- [51:53]
Ryan Whitney
Can you explain? I know maybe you said your memory isn't great. Like, do you. Did you have any idea at the time, like, how many of those guys would be in the hall of Fame, like, what you were kind of dealing with then? I know that's a crazy question, but it was. You crushed everyone.
- [52:09]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, I. I mean, Liz, I was in Junior B two years before that, so I was just happy to be there.
- [52:14]
Ryan Whitney
That's awesome.
- [52:16]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah. I think you knew there was something special even, like, especially with, like, Sid there. They talked about. Talked him up a lot. So I. I can't say that, hey, in the future, we were like, oh, these guys are gonna be hall of Famers. But with the lockout and everything going on, like, you knew that this was a pretty unique situation where we had a lot of guys that would have been in the NHL otherwise. So. Yeah, man, that was. It was such a cool experience to be involved in that whole process. And. And being so close to Winnipeg, a lot of their fans were driving up for games, and it was just like the most electric games that I had ever had up until that point. And every time you. Like, one of the coolest things about World Juniors is every time you. I've never seen people get so excited to score goals. It's like, you score a goal in that. In that tournament, like, you're blowing the roof off and it's. Yeah, the old Jersey pole.
- [53:05]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, everyone loves that.
- [53:06]
Ryan Whitney
No doubt. And then that. That tournament had Malkin and OVI too. Like, the Double D on that was against Russia, I think. But it was. You know, we've talked a lot on this show. The Olympics and World championships, all this stuff, kind of World Juniors isn't the same without Russia. But you had that aspect of Sid Novi even before being in the NHL.
- [53:25]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, and we were like. We were rinsing everybody in that tournament, so, like, it was nice to have like a. The last game. It was like they built it up as, like, especially Ovi and. And him being. Him and Sid. That was kind of the beginning of their first matchup against each other. And, you know, the whole. Just the history of Canada, Russia in general was. It was fun. So, yeah, we. We made short work of them, which was fun. We had. We just had such a deep lineup that was. Just. Came at you in waves and played skill and physical, so it was. It was a blast, man.
- [53:57]
Keith Yandle
Was Sid even drafted at that point?
- [54:00]
Andrew Ladd
I don't know. He wasn't.
- [54:01]
Ryan Whitney
No.
- [54:02]
Keith Yandle
He was underage. Yeah. Biz, you're muted.
- [54:04]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, I was one.
- [54:07]
Ryan Whitney
Hey, you muted. Big dog. Hey, should we. Oh, he's back. He's back. I was gonna try to interview Ladder, and Ladder could be Biz.
- [54:15]
Biz Nasty
I can go back on mute. Be better for everyone. I was going to ask Whit, you talked about that team, how many of the. The people on that team will be hall of Famers and then at least how many of them have hit a thousand games? Because Ladder. I look. I just looked. You hit a thousand and one. Huge.
- [54:34]
Keith Yandle
Oh, wow, that's amazing.
- [54:36]
Andrew Ladd
That was. That was a grind to get to a thousand. And I was like, oh, I gotta play one more because they're doing the ceremony.
- [54:42]
Biz Nasty
So guess. And guess who he played it for.
- [54:46]
Keith Yandle
The Yotes, baby.
- [54:47]
Biz Nasty
Coyotes.
- [54:50]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah.
- [54:50]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, I'm looking right now. So you got.
- [54:55]
Keith Yandle
I mean, everyone played in the NHL from that team pretty much.
- [54:57]
Biz Nasty
Except for, like, Stephen Dixon on that.
- [55:01]
Andrew Ladd
Team he was on. Yeah, he was on that team. I think our fourth line was him, Clark MacArthur and Colin Fraser.
- [55:07]
Biz Nasty
Did he end up getting an NHL game? Steven Dixon, he might be the only guy.
- [55:13]
Andrew Ladd
He must have played a game. Yeah, maybe, maybe not.
- [55:15]
Ryan Whitney
I hope he's a Hall of Famer off the ice, I'll tell you that. For. He never got a game.
- [55:19]
Biz Nasty
Never got a game. Are you kidding?
- [55:22]
Keith Yandle
Give him a game.
- [55:23]
Biz Nasty
That's.
- [55:25]
Andrew Ladd
Wow, that guy might still be playing.
- [55:27]
Ryan Whitney
You want a title? He won a title in Finland with Tapara Tampera, and then he won a fight With. He won a title in Cardiff.
- [55:36]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, that's with the Devils.
- [55:38]
Ryan Whitney
So.
- [55:39]
Biz Nasty
Ladder. He just retired. I think he was a player coach his last couple years in the eihl. But this guy was one of a.
- [55:47]
Keith Yandle
Kind, and you need a gesture.
- [55:49]
Biz Nasty
What's that?
- [55:50]
Keith Yandle
Every team needs a gesture. That's why they won.
- [55:53]
Biz Nasty
Oh, yeah. No, he's. He's one of a kind. You got to meet him at that dinner we did in Halifax.
- [55:58]
Ryan Whitney
I played with him.
- [56:00]
Andrew Ladd
He was a pit, right?
- [56:01]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah. Wilkes. Bear with them.
- [56:03]
Biz Nasty
I forgot. Oh, yeah, I forgot.
- [56:06]
Ryan Whitney
I mean, dude, I, like. I got to watch him shave his chest, so it just lined up with his V neck like. The guy's a wizard.
- [56:13]
Biz Nasty
He was ahead of his time.
- [56:15]
Andrew Ladd
One of the hairiest humans.
- [56:16]
Ryan Whitney
So that's crazy. So you were Junior B two years before that. World Junior. The year after the World Junior, you win the Stanley Cup. Like, just a late bloomer in the game.
- [56:25]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, man. I. I, like. I always tell a story. Like, I played Bantam B, and then, like, so I got cut from the A team, and then next year I went and made the A team and then just kind of kept working my way up. So I played Junior B. I tried out for the Vancouver Giants when I was 16. I got cut, and then they listed me. So I actually played a game for the Vancouver Giants their inaugural. Inaugural year, and played one game. So at that time, you lost your. Your eligibility, right? So you couldn't go. You'd have to go red shirt. But I. You know, I was young and, like, oh. I mean, if they're gonna. If I'm gonna play one game this year, that means they want me for next year.
- [57:02]
Biz Nasty
Nope.
- [57:03]
Andrew Ladd
You sure? I went to camp, get. Got cut again. See you later. And then I went back, played Junior A and with the Coquitlam Express, and. And then my rights got traded halfway through that year to the Calgary Hitman. So I got. I got traded for Colt Nora's brother, actually. So he went back to Vancouver. And then I went and tried out for the Hitman because my. Actually because my cousin played there. I was. You guys love this. I was thinking about red shirting with the Midgie State at that point. So then I. I chose not to. I try to play with my cousin one more year. Tried out for the Vancouver Giants and. Or, sorry, the Calgary Hitman. And then that year I got drafted fourth overall.
- [57:45]
Biz Nasty
I was just.
- [57:46]
Keith Yandle
Holy, that's crazy. Led the Hitman your first year in points with Ryan Getzloff on the team, too. Like, that's pretty Impressive to do.
- [57:54]
Andrew Ladd
Well, I didn't. Getzi had about half the games, but.
- [57:56]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, he did, you're right.
- [58:00]
Andrew Ladd
But yeah, it was, it was, it was a good year and it was nice to play like obviously get to play with Getsy.
- [58:06]
Ryan Whitney
Did you have a moment at the draft, like fourth after it happened? Like, dude, I was thinking about. I was cut two years ago. I was thinking about going to college. I'm playing hockey for a year. I just went fourth overall. It must have hit you like a ton of bricks.
- [58:19]
Andrew Ladd
It. It was like so surreal.
- [58:21]
Donnie Does
Just.
- [58:21]
Andrew Ladd
But everything so happened so fast, so it was almost like I didn't have time to think about it because I literally like drafted fourth overall world juniors next December. And then the following year I won a Stanley Cup. So it was like in three years, wow. This to that. And like I didn't have a chance to be like, oh, wow. Like after I won, I was like, holy. Like I'm playing.
- [58:38]
Keith Yandle
Yeah. You still would have been a sophomore at Bemidji State.
- [58:42]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, exactly.
- [58:43]
Ryan Whitney
And back skated every day.
- [58:46]
Andrew Ladd
That.
- [58:46]
Biz Nasty
That is a crazy rip in your first two years. Like that, that.
- [58:51]
Keith Yandle
Wow.
- [58:52]
Biz Nasty
And then I actually got to play with get slav at under 18 and that was the first time that I'd ever watched him. He was MVP of that tournament. So obviously, like, had you ever gotten to play in a situation where you were first line, like probably power play and playing with a guy of that stature.
- [59:08]
Andrew Ladd
I mean, I never played with someone as skilled as him and like his hockey iq like all. He was a total package man. Right. I think it. His ability to be physical, his skill game and. And how he thought the game was, was unique. So it was fun to like just watch him evolve. It was funny. People used to give him all the time in junior because he looks like he's not moving sometimes.
- [59:33]
Ryan Whitney
Right.
- [59:33]
Andrew Ladd
He's just.
- [59:33]
Ryan Whitney
But he flew when he, when he wanted to.
- [59:35]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah. Yeah. And even like in that, at that age, like his one timer man, like he. It was funny because in the NHL he's known probably more for his. His playmaking ability. But like, that dude could like rip a one timer is one of the best that, that I've been around. And he used that a lot more in junior. So anytime you're playing with players of that caliber, I think they start to rub off on you in terms of like, how are they making plays, what are they doing, how are they getting open? And even just how he worked on his game. So I was fortunate enough to play and get to spend that much time With Getzi.
- [60:07]
Biz Nasty
What a specimen. And he. I think he went, like, 17th, maybe 20th overall that year. That's how good that 03 draft was. I was shocked. He went 19th, which I was like, what? This guy's like, what, 6, 3, 64 stallion?
- [60:22]
Donnie Does
Yeah.
- [60:22]
Ryan Whitney
But I bet there were some people like, oh, he's lazy because of how he looked. I. I'm guessing, like, he, like, he would fight and hit and. Yeah. In terms of his shot in Anaheim, Randy Carlisle would be, like, screaming at him, shoot the puck more, because it was that good. But he just loved giving guys tappings.
- [60:40]
Biz Nasty
That's the kind of guy he is.
- [60:41]
Andrew Ladd
Oh, yeah, he was. That draft was. I mean, I think Paris went that round.
- [60:45]
Biz Nasty
Like, yeah, he won a couple picks before him or after, Maybe he was 24th, I think. Yeah, they got both those guys in the first round, maybe even later, maybe like, 28th or something.
- [60:57]
Keith Yandle
Perry went 28.
- [60:59]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, 28.
- [61:00]
Andrew Ladd
Jesus. Yeah.
- [61:01]
Biz Nasty
Yeah.
- [61:02]
Andrew Ladd
That whole draft was just.
- [61:03]
Biz Nasty
It was stupid. It was stupid. But speaking of playing with, like, elite, you know, hall of Fame talent, you go to Chicago and you got. I know recently you guys just had Duncan Keys hall of Fame induction. You were there, right?
- [61:17]
Andrew Ladd
I was, yeah. Yeah, I went, which is great.
- [61:20]
Biz Nasty
That must have been so good to catch up with all those guys.
- [61:23]
Ryan Whitney
His speech was so good.
- [61:25]
Andrew Ladd
His feet. Yeah, I was. I was like, anyone, anytime you hear dunk speak, it was like, he can do it. But there's. There was a level of intention with that speech. So I was wondering how it was going to be. But it was fantastic, man. I was. I was proud of him for how he spoke and, And. And just pulled everything together. But that's such a. Have you guys been.
- [61:46]
Ryan Whitney
No, I've never been to the hall of Fame to, like, you know, younger.
- [61:50]
Andrew Ladd
It's a pretty awesome experience, man. Like, just the. The. The legends of hockey that are in the same room and you have GMs and former players and, you know, a bunch of the Sharks were there for Jumbo and. And Bergie was there for Chara. And so it was such an awesome experience just to be around that many people who've had that big of an impact on the game and. And to see how reflective. You know, I'm sure you guys saw the speeches, but the impact that not only they've had on hockey, but the community has had on them was. Was fun to. To see come through.
- [62:22]
Keith Yandle
The thing that I took about, the biggest thing I took from that is, like, the way he spoke about, like, what Chicago meant to you guys when you Were playing there, like. Like it was a family. Like, you guys came to the rink every day, and that was your guys's happy place. That's at least how it seemed.
- [62:37]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, like, it was unique from the standpoint of, like, we were all really young. Like, I. I got there. I think I was two and a half years in my career and felt like a. An older. Older guy, like someone who could speak up. And obviously, I had the Stanley cup experience, but we really had. Did have, like, a young group that grew up together. And we always say, like, oh, we were like brothers. But what I mean by that is, like, we would say whatever to each other. Like, there was no. You weren't worried about whether the guy was gonna like you or, like, be mad at you. Like, we pushed each other in that way where we just, like, fight. Actually fight almost. Sometimes the blows and practice, but the next day you're like, oh, yeah, Like, I know these guys love me, and, like, let's get back to work pushing each other. So it was. It was such a fantastic culture there at that time. And then dunks was just such a massive part of that. Like, undercover, because he's pretty quiet, but, like, hit his intensity. Like, I. I compare him, like, to Rod Brynn Amore in terms of, like, his intensity and how he approached the game and how he worked at it. It was. It was at that level, that trade.
- [63:38]
Ryan Whitney
From Carolina to Chicago, it was Tomo Rutu, who I kind of grew up playing against. International stuff.
- [63:44]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah.
- [63:44]
Ryan Whitney
For you, it was a one for one, and it was kind of a crazy trade at the time, I'm guessing for yourself, it was like, all right, I'm dealt. I won a Stanley cup here. But then you missed the playoffs, and so that may be disappointing to get dealt, but you look like, oh, my God, this team's gonna be a wagon. So, like, was it almost bittersweet?
- [64:02]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, I was. I was blindsided, honestly. Like, I just. Because I was in my head, I think it was like, hey, we have an older group, an older team. Like, I'm one of the few young guys. I think it was, like, me, Eric Stahl, and Wardo. Everybody else was. Was. They're pretty veteran players. So I think I had in my head, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be here for a while. And, you know, I bought a house. Great time to buy the house in 2008, by the way. Oh, yeah, the bought a house was getting settled, and then, like, you know, six months later, four months later, whatever it is, you're getting shipped off at the deadline. So it was definitely a surprise. And I was, like, shook by it. And I actually saw. I saw Jimmy Rutherford, I guess it was a few days ago at an event in Vancouver for a foundation. So I was giving him the gears a little bit about trading me, but he's like, it worked out for you. And it did because I went to Chicago and one of the fun things about Chicago was, like, I knew a lot of guys there, a lot of, like, Western Canadian guys, that even if I didn't know them personally, I had. I had some sort of connection to them. And I mean, like, me, Brent Seabrook, Colin Fraser, and Troy Brower, they were all part of that organization. Like, we played together when we were 10 years old. Like, we all played at the Brick together. So, like, there was a level of comfort there of, like, going in and knowing. Knowing those guys that made it, that transition really easy.
- [65:24]
Ryan Whitney
It's wild to look at that Blackhawks team because I'm kind of going through it right now. You got traded halfway through Kaner's rookie year. You guys don't make the playoffs. First year, making the playoffs, his second year. Did you guys lose in the conference finals to Detroit or was it this?
- [65:40]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, yeah, we lost to Detroit in.
- [65:42]
Ryan Whitney
Conference finals, but from. From no playoffs. And. And Kane's rookie year, he explodes on to the next year. Like, you're in the mix. And then the third year for him, you guys win it all. So after that Detroit loss, they lose to Pittsburgh, you. You must have been. The entire team must have been like, dude, we're getting one of these. Like, we're there really quick.
- [66:01]
Biz Nasty
And then you guys add Hosa, right?
- [66:03]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, we. We essentially like, swapped Hosa for havelab. So Marty. Marty was there and he was like. Marty was exceptional, too. Like, he. He actually got in that. The series with Detroit, got Cromwald. And that was like.
- [66:18]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, I remember that hit along the. Where the benches are.
- [66:22]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, along the boards. And that was a big, big hit for us because obviously he was a. A guy who could provide some offense and, and have an impact. So that was kind of the swap that summer. And then I actually think the biggest. The biggest factor for that group was Joel Cornville coming in. And he came in really early on in the season, the next year, and just. I mean, you're seeing it right now with the Ducks, right? Like, he's. His ability to create structure and come in and lead. From a standpoint of. These are the non negotiables. This is what we do day in, day out. This is how we practice was such a massive influence on. On a young group and kind of started to pull Kaner and Taser and the rest of the group into, like, this is. This is the way we want to play, and this is what you want to show up day in, day out as a. As a pro. What's that?
- [67:12]
Keith Yandle
Where was Q before that?
- [67:14]
Andrew Ladd
He was. I think he was consulting with Colorado maybe.
- [67:17]
Keith Yandle
So kind of. Yeah.
- [67:19]
Andrew Ladd
So he was on the outskirts, and it was an interesting thing because they hired. They hired him as a consultant, and then Savvy was the coach. So there was an interesting dynamic.
- [67:28]
Ryan Whitney
That's a bad sign if you're the head coach.
- [67:31]
Andrew Ladd
And I love Savvy, and he was great for. For that group as they came in because he gave. He gave the young guys the freedom and the confidence to play that the way that their potential would inevitably allow them to play. So having Savvy early on blowing smoke in your face in the office was. Was definitely a massive value for that group. And then it was like the cave not time for the next step, which was Q coming in and having an experienced NHL coach who had done it before.
- [67:59]
Keith Yandle
Were you there for that famous story about when Q was late to give this pregame speech? It was during, like, the Preakness or whatever you tell them.
- [68:07]
Andrew Ladd
Oh, yeah, yeah. So we were. We were in Vancouver and he. He wasn't. He wasn't late. Like, we were. We were just coming, like, guys were getting to the ring. Think, like, I think probably like two and a half hours before, and he was running through the room, like, losing his mind.
- [68:24]
Biz Nasty
We're like, what is going on right now?
- [68:26]
Andrew Ladd
And anybody if you know Q, like, punching guys. Yeah. Like, you see clips of him, Guys coming off the ice like, he. He. Nobody. He was saying was like, nobody loves winning more than I do. And so he's like, fist pumping up and down and running around. And he had just hit the trifecta for the freakness. So I. I can't even remember how much money he won, but it was a. It was hundreds, thousands, I guess, maybe. I don't know. It was a. It was a lot of money.
- [68:50]
Biz Nasty
Oh, yeah. Him and Ed. So Edo told me a story. I asked Edo, I said, what's the most you ever won on, like, a horse bet? I think edo won over 500 grand a couple times. And this has to do with. With picking. I think you picked 10 races in a row where you could put a low amount on it, but you got to pick. I think they have to finish first. And second, but regardless, I don't know the betting world, so. So he had won the first nine, and then it was the last one that was coming up. And he called Q and Q picked up on like one ring. He goes, what do you got? So he told me the story. We were in Vegas at a dinner table, like right before the season kicked off. And these guys just love the horse betting. Like, they are locked when they're not watching game tape, they're watching horse race.
- [69:39]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, Q is like, he was great, man. Like, he. That. That was when they. In Chicago, we used to have like the Vegas trip because we have the big.
- [69:47]
Keith Yandle
He loves Vegas.
- [69:48]
Andrew Ladd
And he was like, it was fat. It was so funny because we were in the group. Like, we had a young group, no one even knows. And he comes in one day, he's.
- [69:54]
Biz Nasty
Like, boys, we did it.
- [69:56]
Andrew Ladd
We're like, we did what? He's like, we're going to Vegas. So he set up. We had a Western Canadian road swing.
- [70:02]
Keith Yandle
Before they had a team biz.
- [70:04]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had a Western Canadian road swing. And he worked in. He's like, yeah, we got a trip or a side trip to Vegas work out. So I think we went to maybe like, I think we actually went San Jose over to Vegas, spent a couple days there during the like Super Bowl. And then like, at that point, we were, we were a wagon. So the best thing that ever happened was I. We ripped off eight in a row after that.
- [70:25]
Biz Nasty
Oh, yeah.
- [70:25]
Andrew Ladd
And that, like, that set the next, the next five years up for, for the Vegas trip. So it was, it was, it was awesome.
- [70:33]
Biz Nasty
That is unreal. Just going back to kind of what you said, like him touching all the right buttons. So he came in that first year right from training camp, like it was an off season move.
- [70:43]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, he. He came in as a consultant in the off season. And then. So he was there through a training camp. And I think it happened pretty quick. I want to say it was like four games in. They. They pulled the trigger.
- [70:55]
Ryan Whitney
And they were probably like, if they lose two games in a row, like, that's it.
- [71:00]
Biz Nasty
Like, what were. Like, what were the first things when he came in the locker room that you said. I know you said that. He kind of instilled, these are my non negotiable negotiables. But, like, was he pretty? Was like, you know, if guys weren't falling in, like in line right away, would he call guys out? Like, how would that dynamic work?
- [71:16]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, the first thing he did was like, hey, we're gonna like, set the vision, I would say it was like, hey, we're. We're gonna win a Stanley cup here. And that had not been said yet.
- [71:26]
Ryan Whitney
Right.
- [71:26]
Andrew Ladd
Like, before, it was just like, hey, show up and work hard and, and, and develop these kids. And he was like, no, like we have a clear idea of like where we want to go, go. That's the first thing I remember. And then, and then it was like the commitment to that. So his non negotiables are funny. Right? Like no one touch passes in. In your own zone. Like he would. Yeah. As a D man going back, you can't bat a puck out of the air. Like, he would lose his.
- [71:53]
Biz Nasty
You can't one touch it in the D zone.
- [71:55]
Andrew Ladd
No, never one.
- [71:56]
Biz Nasty
Like, if a D goes to forward in the middle or center and he knows that guy's on the wall, he can't quickly bump it. He's got to catch it and then move it.
- [72:04]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah.
- [72:04]
Ryan Whitney
That was like my favorite play. D to D. One touch to the middle.
- [72:08]
Keith Yandle
Wow.
- [72:08]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah. No, I mean, if it works out, you'd probably be all right. But if it didn't work out, then you were. You were hearing about it. And then like, he was a stickler for having a good stick, so he would like, always wanted good stick positioning. And, and so from that standpoint, I think the details of like winning and checking, he made our. He elevated our team to another level, which, which ended up being a big reason why. Why we ended up winning.
- [72:32]
Biz Nasty
Stuthers was big on that where when we would do video sessions, he would show all the times where they would make a seam pass or any pass it would go through. And it was visible that all the guy had to do was have his stick a little farther in that lane to break up that play. And then, like, as the season wore on, like, he'd be showing the examples of like here, look at this. Of piece play broken off now because guys would start getting it more and more. It was like one of the fundamentals for a system that he would beat in this non stop. And it worked.
- [73:02]
Andrew Ladd
Oh, yeah. It's a massive part of the game is like having a good stick. And I mean, as. As defenders, you guys would know Whit and Yan's, but the. And the other thing you guys, you guys love this is D man too. You're not allowed to take a snapshot from the point. Always had to be a slap shot.
- [73:17]
Keith Yandle
Really? Everything. Yeah.
- [73:19]
Ryan Whitney
I had a muffin, though. I would have never. Q would. I would have played one game for Q and bet on waivers.
- [73:25]
Biz Nasty
Hey, how about.
- [73:26]
Keith Yandle
How about when he would do that drill? It was like offensive zone, neutral zone, defensive zone. The coaches would be trying to stick on Pac. He would go so hard because he always say, I got the best stick in the game. And he would go so hard, he'd be dead by the. It was a warm up drill. It was right when practice started. It was unbelievable.
- [73:45]
Andrew Ladd
Oh, yeah. And he loved, like, a hard pass, too.
- [73:48]
Keith Yandle
Oh.
- [73:48]
Andrew Ladd
So he'd be. He'd sit on the boards and be like, crispy just for tape to tape. And like, oh, man. I remember one time we were. We were. You do that drill where you just kind of pop out and you come across the far blue and then you get a pass, a far stretch pass on the other end. So we. We're just being donkeys about it. So guys would like take full slap shots at each other. Like try to. On the ice. Try to just pass it as hard as you can and then pick it up. And then I think. I think Steger. Steger might have ripped one at Sharpie and it might have been the other way around. And it skipped and just right off the ankle and he went down and you. You lost his. But a lot, a lot of fun.
- [74:28]
Ryan Whitney
Stuff like that, of that team. Like the legends that we've kind of mentioned. We have a couple white whales on this, Paul. We got Joe Thornton, and another one is Dustin Bufflin. And not only were you guys cup champs together, but then you were off to Atlanta together. So basically, I'm wonder whether it's on ice or off ice. When you hear Dos Buff's name, like, what's the first thing you think of?
- [74:55]
Andrew Ladd
I don't know if there's a word.
- [74:57]
Ryan Whitney
Or a moment or just basically a description of that guy.
- [75:01]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, I mean, that, that guy. You can put that guy in any room in the world and he will have every one of those people. Like, everybody loves Buff. Like, no matter what, he's the guy that can do dumb. And then everybody still loves him.
- [75:11]
Ryan Whitney
Them. That's Buff. That's what they said.
- [75:13]
Biz Nasty
Yeah.
- [75:14]
Andrew Ladd
And by the way, he's. He said. He said. He's told me. And I think he was like, you figure this out. But he said he would do a sandbagger.
- [75:23]
Ryan Whitney
We'd only get him for a fishing.
- [75:28]
Biz Nasty
What I want to do is we should. We should bring all you guys down to Florida when everyone plans on being there and do a fishing excursion. Because he loves to fish. Right. Like, he's a massive fisherman.
- [75:38]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah. But then the cat might be out of the bags I think he actually sucks at fishing.
- [75:43]
Biz Nasty
That's fighting words.
- [75:44]
Ryan Whitney
He'll fill the boat with fish, right? Yeah, we'll stalk the pond.
- [75:49]
Biz Nasty
Yeah. No, we imagine that in a. Who would be the third? If you two. Who would be the third?
- [75:55]
Andrew Ladd
Oh, I mean, wheels. Wheels is a stick. Eggs would be good. Sharpies a stick. Have you guys done one with Sharpie?
- [76:06]
Biz Nasty
No, he's too good looking. We don't need him on camera next to us.
- [76:09]
Andrew Ladd
Steebs is a good, is a good golfer.
- [76:12]
Biz Nasty
We should do a Hawks reunion tournament like I talked about at the beginning of the pod, where you have four teams of three. I mean with all these dunks would do it. Dunks. He came on the pod. He was one of our, our big dogs. We got.
- [76:24]
Andrew Ladd
Dunk sucks it. He's not a golfer.
- [76:25]
Biz Nasty
Perfect. That's good for us.
- [76:27]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, he fine. I got to see him be bad at something good.
- [76:30]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, well. Yeah, yeah. So. Yeah, well, we're, we'd be down for sure.
- [76:36]
Biz Nasty
What's your favorite Buff story?
- [76:39]
Andrew Ladd
Oh, man, I got lots. I think with Stig around, when he told you the rollerblading story. I think I may have heard that with you guys.
- [76:46]
Biz Nasty
I know. You can tell it again.
- [76:48]
Ryan Whitney
Tell it again.
- [76:48]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, so he was out with like an ankle injury and we're in Chicago and he, he lived not far from the bar. So he, he, he left his truck at the bar and didn't want to drink, but like brought his rollerblades. So, you know, there's, it's whatever time in the morning, three o' clock in the morning, and he's like rollerblading down the street in Chicago back to his, his condo or apartment, wherever he was going, and he gets pulled over by the cops, like in Chicago. And they're so, they're like, what's this, you know, 208 or 280 pound black guy doing that rolling like rollerblading down the road in Chicago at this time in the morning. And so he. Same, same thing, right? They're like, what's going on? And he of course, like makes instant friends with the cop. And I think they, they might ended up like, they just let him go. And then off he goes on his rollerblades, rollerblading home.
- [77:47]
Keith Yandle
They let him drive the cruiser home?
- [77:48]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, it's like super bad. They're shooting off their guns together.
- [77:52]
Biz Nasty
He's hanging out at the back and they're, they're driving. He's wheeling behind him.
- [77:56]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, imagine, imagine like waiting for the bus and you just see Buff come in like Full speed.
- [78:02]
Andrew Ladd
Oh, man. He's. And, like, there's a couple. Like, he. He loves hunting and fishing. So we're in Winnipeg, and we used to have house. House parties in Winnipeg so we wouldn't go out to a bar. And numbnuts decides to bring a blow dart to the Halloween party. So he. I guess he's like, you kill squirrels with a blow dart. And, like, it's like, little. These little things. So obviously, like, people start having drinks, and they're, like, getting loose. And then Buff, you know, of course, hey, like, let's start shooting people with the blow dart.
- [78:33]
Biz Nasty
How long till you guys figure it out? Because he's probably doing it discreetly, where.
- [78:37]
Keith Yandle
You'D be like, oh, oh, yeah, your neck.
- [78:40]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah. And I think at that point. But then other people got it, so I, Like. So he got James Wright, like, right in the finger. So James Wright was playing with us, and writer was, like, rattled Buffs, you know, sitting on the other side of the room just laughing his ass off. And then I think Blake Wheeler's wife got it, and. And she.
- [78:59]
Biz Nasty
Wives.
- [79:00]
Andrew Ladd
We were playing beer pong in the garage, and I was like, I. I was around the corner. I went to walk around the corner, and she was trying to get wheels from, like, inside the door. He was playing looking the other way. So as I walk around, she spears one, like, right in my groin.
- [79:15]
Ryan Whitney
And I'm like, what a team activity.
- [79:17]
Andrew Ladd
Just. Yeah. So that is all because Buff decided to bring a blow dart, too.
- [79:22]
Biz Nasty
Yeah. You got Patty Kane walking in with an eye patch the next day. It's like, what happened to our prize possession? I got a blow dart in the eye from Buff. Pretty. I mean, that celebration in Chicago, I mean, you know, Carolina's Carolina, but they're. You must have been overwhelmed. What, was there 2 million people there?
- [79:40]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, it was. It was cool, like, having experience in Carolina, and obviously, you just don't know at that time. I remember walking down the street in Carolina with a cup, like, from one bar to another, and, like, no one, like, had a couple, like, what's that? But for the most part, like, had no problem walking. Walking it down the street. And then you get to Chicago, and we would literally, we. We had a party bus, and we just went around the city, and it was like a flash mob every time. So we'd take the cup into one place, then all of a sudden, you turn around, the whole place was just jammed, and the cup guy'd be losing it because that. You'd be. You'd be walking out of the Bar with it above your head. And he's like, I thought it was just like crowd surfing its way around there. So he was losing his mind. And then someone had the bright idea to actually bring it out onto the street and. And then there was just again like flash mob people everywhere. And then the cops shut that down. They said no bueno on that one, you guys.
- [80:32]
Ryan Whitney
Buff rollerbladed with it. Just carrying it down. Michigan.
- [80:36]
Mason West
Yeah.
- [80:36]
Ryan Whitney
All right. Hey, just thinking of that team. What a, what a squad. But this leads me to rollback. Last question. Right now, the rollback website, all of it, entire thing is 20 off for all customers. There's no code needed. Just head to Roback. R h o b a c-k.com and the entire website is 20 off. Incredible gear. All customers have that ability to do that through December 1st. So you got about a couple days left here. Act quick. Buff was a part of the disaster that was the non qualifying offers. And I, I kind of just want to hear your recollection of like finding out what happened. I'm sure it was your agent or whatever happened, but like what was your initial reaction to that going down?
- [81:23]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, I think at the time, I don't think we really realized like what the like impact that would have moving forward. I think we're like, oh, they screwed up. They didn't tender these qualifying offers. And then my buddies got to sign three year deals, probably higher money than they normally would. And so that was kind of the first reaction. I think if you were talking to an agent, they would have been, they would have been like, holy crap, that, that was a massive mistake at that time. But we were like, oh, at that time we're still together and those guys are signed for another three years and fantastic. And then as play out like after our run, it was pretty clear pretty quick that like first of all those contracts were, had a massive impact on where the cap was going. And then Taser and Kaner both hit rookie bonuses. That didn't help. I can't remember exact number that they had. Maybe three year old $4 million in bonuses. So even in like my talks with, excuse me, in Stan Bowman at that time, it was like hey, like we'd love to keep you and you're gonna have to take a discount from like what you're, you're making already. So you knew it was kind of coming. It was a weird moment. Like the first time I was blindsided because I had no idea it was coming. The second time it was like, okay, I know I'm going where Am I going. And. And then we have. Most of us ended up going to Atlanta, which, which is. Was kind of crazy.
- [82:46]
Donnie Does
Wow.
- [82:47]
Ryan Whitney
I never thought about the rookie bonuses because it's the next year. It's the next year it hits the cap. That's crazy.
- [82:54]
Biz Nasty
Ladder. Before we let you go though, I don't know if you had any more, any more to say on that subject.
- [82:59]
Andrew Ladd
Which, that one.
- [83:01]
Biz Nasty
Oh, Atlanta.
- [83:02]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, yeah.
- [83:03]
Biz Nasty
No, no, no. I was gonna ask you about. We're gonna get you on again, buddy. This was awesome. Like we could get you on once every couple months to shoot the. About all these amazing stories. But one thing that when you reached out originally you told me had going on was and you touched on a little bit was the www.1616.org. It's a nonprofit. So I just wanted you to be able to tell everybody at home what that's about and what you're doing.
- [83:27]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah, for sure. Thanks for that. Yeah. So we, we started a program I guess like towards the end of my career and it was a proactive approach to mental, well being in hockey. So what we do is, is give kids tools at the 10 to 12 year old age so that when, hey, when problems hit, they have more, more tools in their toolkit to navigate those, those problems. And we teach them. It's called the Buffalo mindset. And what makes buffalo unique is that they're the only animal that when a storm hits, they don't run away from the storm. They actually band together and move towards it. And that's, that's the mindset we want to teach kids in our game is like, hey, challenges are inevitable. They're going to happen. And the more we press into them, the more we're going to learn, the more we're going to grow and then the more we're going to set them up for success. So the program is set up for. We actually use player stories. So we have like a Patty Kane story and he teaches a concept and the concepts are either confidence, connection or character. So he, his basically a story of his journey and how those, those concepts have had an impact on where he's gone in his career. And kids understanding that, hey, like it wasn't all butterflies and roses for Patty Kane. Like he had challenges so that they can relate to him. And then we have content for the parents to understand, hey, why is that concept important and how do you reinforce it with the kids? And same for the coach. Why is this concept important? How do you reinforce it for the kids? And the best part is it's completely free. So you literally sign up as a team or individually. Right now, I think we have over 6, 600 teams across North America in it. So thousands of kids, thousands of coaches, thousands of parents. And there's still, I think, five weeks left to sign up for the, for the program. So, yeah, that, that is, that is it. I'm super proud of, of what we've, we've created there. It's been amazing. It's definitely well needed. And we're working with the NHL, with Hockey Canada and USA Hockey to figure out how we can even expand the enrollment and impact of what we're to up. Up to.
- [85:22]
Ryan Whitney
LAD just clicked on the website. What up? Like, the website's awesome. Like, the picture that hits you right away is pretty cool. Like, I'm, I'd never heard of this. I'm excited to do something like this. This is, that's really cool, man. Was that your idea?
- [85:36]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah. So essentially, like, I was in, I was, I was having a rough moment in like, coming up two knee surgeries and I was in a Bridgeport, Connecticut. So back in the minors and it was actually a weird year with like, Covid. So they had, Remember when they had taxi squads and they had, it was like a shortened season, so they actually, they didn't want me with NHL club and they didn't want me on the taxi squad because I was making too much money. I guess they couldn't call me up anyways. So I was literally skating by myself every day.
- [86:06]
Keith Yandle
Oh.
- [86:07]
Andrew Ladd
So I would text, I'd text lou at like 10, 10 at night, and I'd be like, hey, Lou, what time can I skate tomorrow? And he'd you know, it's a little dot, dot, dot. And he'd be like, are you coming at 2pm tomorrow? So I'd go in and skate. And in that moment, I was working with a mental performance coach that actually the people I work with now, and they were like, he was like, hey, like, what would you be proud of at the end of this year? And I was like, okay. Like, I, I, I've been thinking about doing this and having this impact on mental health, especially in our game. And that was kind of the start of it. So we did a marketplace assessment to see, like, hey, is there anything out there currently that's already doing this kind of work that we could support? And there wasn't so in across all sports. So it was like, great. Okay. The next step is building, building that. So since then, we've raised millions of dollars and created this program which is like two 10 week seasons that the kids go through and our enrollment has doubled every year. So it's, it's definitely needed. And as you guys know, you've had long careers and there's many challenges in many moments over the course of your careers that you need help and you need to learn how to handle different situations. And one mindset isn't going to be the fix for, for everyone.
- [87:21]
Ryan Whitney
And what's cool is that after that tough time for you, you ended up playing that season, the NHL, you got over a thousand games. So it's like, it's pretty sick that you went through that, that moment and then came out, you know, two time cup champ and the thousand game mark. So what a career, dude. I can't wait to catch up with you again. And everyone, check that out. 1616.org ladder. Have a great one, buddy.
- [87:43]
Andrew Ladd
Thanks, man. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. And I'll, I'll say one more thing is we, in early December, we have a campaign coming up. It's like 16 days of giving. We're trying to get 16, 16 donations of 16.16. So yeah, we'll be on the lookout for that and, and just progression going forward. So thank you again.
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Biz Nasty
Thank you so much, Ladder, for joining us, buddy. We'll get, we'll get you on again. That was awesome.
- [88:09]
Ryan Whitney
We'll promote those links for sure.
- [88:11]
Andrew Ladd
Appreciate it. Thanks guys.
- [88:14]
Ryan Whitney
What a guy. What a guy. Go ahead. I gotta do a couple ads here. I gotta do a couple ads.
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Keith Yandle
Go ahead. I gotta go too.
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Ryan Whitney
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Andrew Ladd
Come on.
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- [90:37]
Andrew Ladd
You said. You said McDavid there to start. Connor Bedard.
- [90:40]
Ryan Whitney
He's always on my mind. He's always on my mind. Believers that close to him. McDavid wouldn't even let Seekers. That close.
- [90:47]
Biz Nasty
Yeah. What? Have you seen the airport photo? Are you kidding me?
- [90:50]
Ryan Whitney
They weren't Seekers. They were fans. There's a big difference. That kind of leads me. There's a big difference between fans and seekers.
- [90:56]
Keith Yandle
What can we. Can we push. Push this combo? Just a second. I got a little surprise for the boys. Little surprise. Maybe a six foot seven surprise.
- [91:10]
Mason West
How we doing?
- [91:11]
Keith Yandle
Mason west, boys.
- [91:13]
Ryan Whitney
Mason West.
- [91:17]
Biz Nasty
Champ.
- [91:18]
Donnie Does
Champ.
- [91:19]
Ryan Whitney
Holy Mason. What's going on, dude?
- [91:22]
Mason West
How's it going? How are you guys doing?
- [91:23]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, we're doing great. We. We. I don't know if you were listening earlier. We were pumping your tires. What a cool story. Congrats on everything. Take us through. Take us through. I first want to know the reactions you got from some teams when you told Them, hey, listen, drafts coming up here. I'm playing football next year.
- [91:41]
Mason West
Yeah. You get a whole lot of different reactions, especially from Canadian teams. It's definitely weird and I guess you're a little bit nervous kind of telling them that, but at the end of the day, that was kind of just my goal and then that's what I was going to do and they kind of knew that. And I was just trying to stay loyal to my teammates, but definitely a little bit, I guess, different, trying to tell them I'm going to play high school football for a year before playing high school hockey.
- [92:03]
Biz Nasty
You have a Michigan State hat on right now. Did you commit to play hockey and. Or. Or football there? You already committed to play hockey there?
- [92:10]
Mason West
Yeah, I played hockey there, yeah. Committed to play hockey.
- [92:13]
Biz Nasty
Do you think that they would allow you to play hockey, football there?
- [92:17]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, yeah, I don't know, actually.
- [92:20]
Mason West
Maybe if they need like a scout player or something like that.
- [92:24]
Biz Nasty
We're decommitting if this ain't happening together now, buddy. I said that there was going to be a guy who played. Played in the NFL and the NHL at a certain point in on this planet. Do you think that you could achieve that and, and, or do you want to achieve that?
- [92:39]
Mason West
That would be fun. That would be a lot. But I'd definitely be like, up, maybe up for it, but I don't know if they would be.
- [92:46]
Ryan Whitney
When did you know that you kind of wanted. Because everything I've read there, there's a lot of football interest.
- [92:52]
Keith Yandle
Right.
- [92:53]
Ryan Whitney
But you, you've decided, listen, I'm going to be full hockey after this season. What age were you when that happened? And, and I'm guessing you played football since Pop Warner, right? This has just been your life, always balancing both.
- [93:04]
Mason West
Yeah, I've just played football since I was in like, second grade and played with these guys since second grade. So that's another reason why it was important for me to come back and play another year. But I think it just. Right after I got back from the USHL and I'm kind of playing that league and I guess like in the summer, like what sport I missed the most and that was hockey. And then I'd always just shoot pucks. And that's kind of the thing for me is I just love playing hockey and it just felt natural every time I'm on the ice. That was kind of the big thing for me is just love of the game and. Yeah.
- [93:33]
Keith Yandle
Now is your family more of a football family or a hockey family?
- [93:37]
Mason West
It's funny, they're actually A basketball family? My dad was a Division 1 basketball player.
- [93:41]
Keith Yandle
Here we go.
- [93:44]
Mason West
Yeah, a little bit.
- [93:45]
Biz Nasty
Yeah. You should play against Ra Ray. You ever see him shoot a basketball?
- [93:52]
Andrew Ladd
No.
- [93:52]
Mason West
Is he pretty good?
- [93:53]
Biz Nasty
No.
- [93:54]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, it's like John Stockton esque. His passes, he shoots like Jordan. It's incredible. It's incredible. How much skating were you doing this fall? Like if, if at all?
- [94:05]
Mason West
Yeah, I try to get on the ice like two, two or three times a week. I'd like to stay fresh, but also it's kind of nice to get off the ice, to just feel fresh on the ice and polished up for kind of when I go. But yeah, I try to get a nice fair amount.
- [94:18]
Biz Nasty
Were you always a quarterback from an early age in, in football?
- [94:22]
Mason West
I was, yeah. We actually, we had to play like two or three positions, so I played some D end here or there, maybe some safety. But yeah, mostly quarterback throughout my whole youth.
- [94:31]
Biz Nasty
So does that like, obviously as a quarterback, especially in today's football, you're probably sustaining the least amount of blows compared to the other positions. Did that, that, did that become a factor in, in being a two sport athlete? And are you, were you nervous about the risk of injury compared to like maybe your likelihood of playing in the NHL compared to the NFL?
- [94:54]
Mason West
Yeah, I mean, obviously there's definitely like a risk playing quarterback. I mean things can happen if your O line kind of gives down a little bit and maybe some big D linemen are kind of coming after you. But I mean, I've never really been injured in my football career. I mean, which is kind of super nice. But I think kind of just being an athlete, I just try to be athletic out there and kind of try to bring that scanning sense from a quarterback to, to the hockey ice. So I think there's obviously risks of being injured, but I'm kind of more having fun and stuff like that.
- [95:24]
Ryan Whitney
You're obviously like a tremendous athlete. Right. And, and I, I'm kind of surprised. Six, seven. You got the fall sport, you got the winter sport. Was there ever like baseball involved? Because I could see you throwing absolute gas.
- [95:37]
Mason West
I did. I played baseball until ninth grade. It hurt my arm a little bit, so I had to kind of give it up. But I was a pitcher and yeah, I loved baseball. I kind of played those three.
- [95:47]
Ryan Whitney
Who is the goalie that had six touchdowns in this game? Like goalie running back. That is, that usually. Is that like a normal thing there? No, it is.
- [95:55]
Mason West
He's a stud. His name's Chase Bjorgard and he also plays baseball too, which is his best sport, which is pretty crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
- [96:05]
Keith Yandle
These kids, since you were in second grade, is that, like, we saw the relief of after when you won that championship? Is that, like, something almost like, where you think of football in. In Texas or wherever where you. Like, when we were growing up, all we talked about was winning a state championship, and you did it with your boys. Like, it must have been so fulfilling.
- [96:24]
Mason West
Yeah, it was the craziest feeling. I mean, knowing these guys since around, like, first or second grade, like I said, it's just like. Like, it's special, and it's something you'll, like, remember for, like, the rest of your life, too. And kind of just seeing, like. I mean, if you watch it back, you can see everyone's, like, emotions too. Like, everyone's emotions and see how they're coming out. And I think it was just super cool to be able to do something special with this group. I mean, it's cool that our school hasn't really won a state championship since, like, 1960s or even ever. So it's kind of cool to get that. That first one and kind of building down a football culture a little bit.
- [96:54]
Biz Nasty
Is there anything about the team or locker room dynamic in football that taught you something that you brought to hockey? Like, is there, like, what sort of differences did football provide you from, like, a learning experience, maybe, where hockey didn't?
- [97:10]
Mason West
Yeah, for sure. I think just, like, having command of, like, an offense, I think being a quarterback, you have to have, like, full command. And that takes a lot of leadership, too, I think, which I'm a captain of football and hockey, but I think my leadership role kind of took a big step. And kind of having that full command of offense allows you to really be more of a vocal leader when you get in the hockey locker room, because it's a little bit more of a smaller, smaller group. But you can kind of. Your voice can be louder, maybe, than it is on a football field. And so I think that's kind of the biggest thing for me is just the leadership role and kind of having full command of the offense and what we're doing and try to bring that in the hockey ice.
- [97:45]
Ryan Whitney
You're an inspiration, in a sense, to parents and kids alike who have been told over and over, you can't play other sports. You gotta. Hey, you're 11 years old. You're a good hockey player. We're going hockey 365 days a year. How many different people told you and, like, did you deal with people like, hey, you gotta stop, man. You gotta just Just focus on hockey or focus on football. Like, was that something you were dealing with from. From certain people? And were your parents. Were your parents a big part of, like. No. Like, keep doing what you love. Do it all.
- [98:15]
Mason West
Yeah, for sure. I mean, obviously, like, at the draft, kind of saying I was gonna play football, there was a lot of people, like, skeptical, whether it was, like, like, teams or fans or kind of just people around it were skeptical of injuries and kind of, like, why is he playing football? But I think my parents kind of helped me with that. And there's guys before that used to do that. I guess, like, as Anders Lee, he played his senior high school, so that was kind of a big, like, influence for me. And kind of seeing him do it means kind of made me think that I could do it, too. And so I think that was the biggest thing for me, is kind of let those people talk or whatever, and I'm just gonna do what I want to want to do and kind of just have fun and keep being a kid.
- [98:49]
Biz Nasty
I mean, it goes back to what you were harping about at the beginning of the podcast about, like, encouraging Minnesota and the way that they handle their. Their minor sports. I feel like this should be more normalized.
- [99:00]
Mason West
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. I think it just. It brings more, like, fun, too. It's just, like, a lot of fun being with, like, your buddies. I mean, like, you'll look back at these times and, like, miss them a lot. I mean, I already missed the game and missed the whole season and miss practicing with the guys. It's nice when you have a really good group. We had a really great group at Edina, but I think it's important just to have fun. Like, that's the biggest thing for me is that's why I chose hockey, is because I love it, and I want to just keep having fun playing it. So I think that's, like, the biggest thing is just keep having fun. Keep. Keep playing with your buddies and just try to do something special and keep going with it.
- [99:32]
Biz Nasty
Wit also listed off, like, how you guys got to the championship game, where you guys had come from behind four different. Different times in the fourth quarter. So as an athlete, like, how fun was the rush of just experiencing that run?
- [99:46]
Mason West
Yeah, the adrenaline rush was pretty crazy through all those games. There's. There was a lot that went through all those games, too. I think if you watched our season, we went, like, 4 and 4 in the regular season. We weren't really supposed to be in the championship, but we didn't really take notice of that, we kind of just wanted to prove everyone wrong. And we had a big poster in our locker room that said prove everyone wrong. We had all, like, the articles that were ranking us low and stuff like that. So I think we really took that into consideration. And every day in practice, we worked for that, and we were just really hungry to win. I think in every playoff game, we kind of went through the gauntlet a little bit. We played a lot of great teams, and I think once we realized that we kind of beat those good teams that were, hey, like, we're here and we're ready to go, and we're not really scared or backing down from anyone.
- [100:30]
Ryan Whitney
The. The article I read in the Athletic about, like, this year's journey. Your coach, the number one thing he talked about with you is how coachable you were, which is such a talent that probably doesn't get mentioned along with, like, physical talents. Was that something from a young age, you know, your dad, I'm guessing, was a big part of your sports life. With being a basketball player, do you always kind of get through to you how you got to listen to coaches, you got to be willing to learn new things?
- [100:57]
Mason West
For sure, yeah. I think, like, no one really knows it all. I think you really have to take in all the information you can. I mean, I think for me, like, going into the draft, I took in all the information. I was kind of just a sponge out there, kind of listening to everybody and listening at the combine to all the teams and kind of what they think I needed to work on. I was just trying to stuff like that. I think just you have to be really coachable and be willing to get better every single day. That's kind of the whole thing of development. That's kind of my whole thing is I just want to get better every single day and kind of just take in every information that I can not.
- [101:29]
Keith Yandle
A lot of high school kids that are already drafted in the NHL, I would imagine, are very coachable, so props to you on that. That's. That's amazing. Shows what such a good kid you are, but thank you. So now you're going. You're going to be. Going to play for Fargo, right in.
- [101:44]
Mason West
Yeah.
- [101:45]
Keith Yandle
USHL so when does that start up and when do you get going?
- [101:48]
Mason West
Yeah, I head down there in around a week or two to start. Started up. And then I'll probably work out here this week and next week just to get my body polished up and ready to go. But, yeah, I'm pumped.
- [102:00]
Ryan Whitney
How are they doing so far this year?
- [102:02]
Mason West
They're doing good. Really good. Yeah, I think they're around like maybe 11 and 7 or something like that. They're doing good, though. Yeah.
- [102:11]
Biz Nasty
Does your true passion lie with hockey, though? Like, do you, like, would you rather make the NHL above anything else?
- [102:18]
Mason West
100. 100. Yeah, totally. I think I really realized that when I got drafted is just. It's a dream come true. And especially with the Blackhawks, like, that was the team I've loved since second grade. And really, I think that's. Yeah, yeah, I love the Blackhawks. I had Blackhawks posters all over my. My room with Patrick Kane and stuff like that. So I think that's kind of cool. I got that opportunity. And did.
- [102:40]
Biz Nasty
Did you tell Kyle Davidson that in your meeting?
- [102:43]
Mason West
I did. I actually did, yeah. They were laughing about that.
- [102:46]
Andrew Ladd
No.
- [102:47]
Ryan Whitney
And then he told the Ducks I had get slap posters. I love the doc.
- [102:53]
Biz Nasty
Oh, that is awesome. I mean, you must be pretty fired up too, like, you're coming up here. Like, I feel like in three, four years they're going to be the team competing for. And it's funny that we get you on, like, great job. Yan's bringing in an unreal surprise guest. That was awesome. Helpful from G. Some help from G. But we just had Andrew Ladd, who was there that first time that they won the. The cup of the first of the three there with Chicago. So very eerie similarities going on here.
- [103:20]
Ryan Whitney
Boys, not to mention your school. You're going to after this season. Michigan State is far and away the best team in college hockey. So how did you. How did you come to that decision? Did. I'm guessing you went and looked at Minnesota, but what was. What was the final decision like for your commitment?
- [103:36]
Mason West
Yeah, first of all, I mean, I really never got recruited from Minnesota. They never reached out or anything. So Michigan State was the first team to offer me. And I just love their coaching staff and how they develop players. I like to look at the guys like Charlie Stramo, how he kind of skyrocketed when he went there and how good they developed him. So I kind of try to compare myself to him a little bit, but I think it's kind of a feeling thing when you go to two campuses or three campuses, you can kind of feel it out a little bit. And kind of once I was on Michigan State, you really felt it out and felt kind of they were ready to develop me as a player and as a person. So I really, I really took that into consideration, admired that.
- [104:13]
Biz Nasty
Davenport University never sent you a letter?
- [104:16]
Mason West
No, they didn't. No, yeah.
- [104:18]
Keith Yandle
After you left Biz, is there any way you could go right to Michigan State right now or.
- [104:25]
Mason West
No, I don't know. I'm actually. I'm graduating first semester, like, with all my credits, but also graduate in the spring. But there might be, like. I mean, there probably would be a possibility, but. Yeah, I don't really know.
- [104:40]
Ryan Whitney
I was gonna say what's sick is you won it. You won the football, you're graduating, so the rest of this season, it's just like, all right, now I get to try to win a USHL championship. Kind of done with school. So you're just. If you tell me you're a 4.0 student, I'm gonna pass that.
- [104:55]
Mason West
I'm not. No, not even close.
- [104:57]
Biz Nasty
He's human.
- [104:58]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, too. You are mature beyond your year. So happy and like, like we said before, before you were on, like, sticking to two sports and just with your town, with your friends. It's a great story, dude. So congratulations.
- [105:17]
Biz Nasty
This guy's 30 years old. Look how deep his voice is. But he's got a big birth certificate and everything going on here. He's got a family of three going to Michigan State.
- [105:29]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, I threw 97 too, but my arm hurt a little bit. So, yeah, hockey it is.
- [105:34]
Biz Nasty
Hit 98 home runs, and what a legend. What a pop this was. Hey, congrats with everything, buddy. And, yeah, I'm looking forward to following the rest of your journey.
- [105:44]
Keith Yandle
Thank you.
- [105:45]
Mason West
Thank you, guys. Appreciate you guys.
- [105:46]
Ryan Whitney
Good luck in Fargo, buddy.
- [105:48]
Mason West
Thank you. Appreciate it.
- [105:50]
Keith Yandle
I mean, yes, I love him.
- [105:53]
Ryan Whitney
Great work, Great work. You know what? He's so friggin nice. He actually might hang out with, like, Seekers and sign all their stuff and let them sell it for all the money. You know, I think he. But, you know, get into the NHL and see these Seekers. And it leads us back to the story of Bedard. There were people chirping. I'm like, I don't know if the public understands. And we've talked about on chickens before, these Seekers of the lowest of the low, scumbag dirt bag, and it's Thanksgiving. But Seekers can take an absolute hike and they sell everything. This is not kids going up. This is not a guy like, hey, can you please sign it for me? I'm a die hard Blackhawks fan. This is a guy that's bothering him non stop. And, you know, I. I actually wouldn't even have been mad at Bedard if he suckered the guy. He just didn't sign it. He scribbled. But you could have straight up suckered him. And you're still getting cheers from NHL players. They stink.
- [106:46]
Biz Nasty
So first of all, like, you know, being around Wayne, you see how ridiculous it is. I've. I've seen people outside the hotel run all the way beside our car to the studio trying to get signed stuff. And Connor Bedard, we've talked about how since, you know, he's came on the scene, man, the Internet and the amplification of everything has made everything even worse, where I can't even imagine how much this guy's getting hounded for his autograph. Okay, when? I'll throw it back over to you quickly, as we continue to break this down. But you dealt with one of the people you're describing. I'm not gonna say they're all like that. I agree with you. Most, if not all these guys, especially when they're handing you the blue Sharpie, they're selling this stuff. Some people are very polite. They'll only ask you to do a few.
- [107:34]
Ryan Whitney
And those aren't Seekers.
- [107:36]
Biz Nasty
No, but I'm saying they're still Seekers in the sense that they are going to sell it. I have no problem signing, but I'm nowhere even near. And same with you, nowhere near a Bedard or a Wayne Gretzky or. Or a Connor McDavid where they probably should have full time security around them for these types of situations. But when we were at Chicklets Cup a few years ago, I want you to describe how some of them are. The guy who had the baseballs.
- [108:02]
Keith Yandle
Oh, they're aggressive.
- [108:03]
Biz Nasty
Do you remember that?
- [108:05]
Ryan Whitney
No.
- [108:06]
Biz Nasty
We talked about it on this pod where the guy had all the memory. He had not only a bunch of cards for you to sign, but also, oh, yeah, dude. And you're like, all right, buddy, I signed. A few of them are done. And he kept saying, no, no, I'll finish him off. And he kept following you to the point where you were, like, almost laughing, like, buddy, I've said no to you 10 times. I'm not signing these baseballs.
- [108:27]
Ryan Whitney
And I like how you said, unlike you, like, I'll like, where were we just at? And a guy came up and he had a book. They always have the book. And they have 10 of your cards. And I signed them all. Like, I don't care because I sign all of them. You're gonna get 3 cents if you try to sell mine. But Crosby and Bedard and Gretzky and McDavid and the best of the best, it's worth a lot of money. And so when these guys understand, like, listen, this is not some kid like, I. I'm putting money in your pocket. All you're doing is signing this. Get away from me. And I've also seen you. I saw you when we arrived in the city. They're waiting at three in the morning when you get to the hotel. Like, what I saw Crosby deal with. And for a guy who's been one of the most consummate. Is that the word professionals. In the history of hockey.
- [109:12]
Keith Yandle
No blemishes even.
- [109:13]
Ryan Whitney
Crosby's like, get away from me. So, like, Bedard. And I think with Bedard's past and, like, being this super prospect, he's been probably dealing with this since first year junior, second year junior. And he's. And he's realized, like, enough. I'm not doing it. But that guy, that guy in Buffalo, like, they don't take no for an answer either. And you could see that in the video, they will not stop. So you have to stick to your guns. Get away from me. Bro.
- [109:36]
Biz Nasty
Buddy. How about the fact that he put the video on, thinking Bedard's probably going to be like, he's gonna post this to bait him into signing it. So first of all, that's. And if you want to say, oh, Bedard's this, you know, prima donna who doesn't want to sign, there's a zillion stories coming out online of where, like, a girl was on, like, a higher concourse where he, like, went and walked up and signed something for a girl, where he'll come out before warm up, and if there's a couple kids in the rink early, he'll make sure he gets that autograph signed for the people who are already in the stand. So all of, like, I would say it's a strong majority of people are on Connor Bedard's side, but there's obviously the 10 that are pretty much the type of people who are okay with the entitlement that these people who are bringing 10, 15 things for you to sign in which they're gonna go sell. So it's a ridiculous thing that I'm sure most of you who are listening understand and understand what seekers are and how they operate. I don't think that they're all bad people. I think that the excitement that they feel and how crazy they get knowing if I get Bedard's autograph here, that's probably 1500 bucks, maybe 2 grand in my pocket, where it's almost like bissing out. I'm getting five bucks on eBay, right? So that's why they get so crazy and weird and Creepy and even. I was talking to Jeff Jacobson about this CM Punk who. I feel like. I feel like people have gotten worse over time where that entitlement has grown and they get so freakish and weird. Where now he's like, when I first started out, it wasn't like this. Now people are going into the lobby of hotels and coming up to them as they're grabbing a coffee where they're supposed to be in their, like, private space. So CM Punk, literally, now he says, no, I'm not signing anyone's. I'm. I've made that promise to myself. I'm not dealing with this. Regardless, it is somebody who's. Who's nice and kind go to a. A signing event that they have or, you know, but this is. This has gotten out of hand. And. And the defense of Connor Bedard and the way that he handled that situation should stand.
- [111:52]
Keith Yandle
Think. Think of the way that, like, TMZ treats the celebrities and running them down, taking pictures. That's what the Seekers are like. So, like, if you don't know what it's like being in any of those superstar NHL guys, look at how, you know, the TMZ treats these celebrities. But also, too, if I was Connor McDavid, Connor Bedard, Sid, I wouldn't sign. I'm not. Not that I wouldn't sign for anyone, but I would sign less and less because at the end of the day, it makes your autograph worth more. There's not a ton of it out there. So, like, if I was a superstar guy, I would be like, I'm gonna make it where I don't sign a ton. It's not liquidated or whatever the word is, where there's a million signings of mine and I can kind of just know where my autographs are. And, you know, those people can make some money, too, but it also makes it worth more money.
- [112:39]
Ryan Whitney
And they also. They try to. They bring the numbers. That's what they'll do. And. And then they put. Then they make the jersey. So all of a sudden, like, you're signing. You're signing a number, and, like, you got. You have a signed jersey.
- [112:52]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, the one that they. Yeah, the. The. The cloth one that they. They ended up sewing on or sometimes they even iron them on.
- [112:59]
Ryan Whitney
So. Yeah, and base. You're right. It's not. They're not all bad guys, but there are. There are certain ones that are very, very entitled and rude, and then they'll snap at you if you don't sign. It's like. And for me, at that day with the baseballs, I'm like, dude, I signed 10 cards, man. I didn't even play baseball, bro. Why do you want my signature on a baseball?
- [113:20]
Biz Nasty
I. I signed all the cards, and then I signed a few baseballs like you. And then I'm like, all right, man. Like, like, kind of like, like surprised that you're even signing baseballs. And then I was just laughing the whole time. Signed the rest of the baseballs because of how persistent he was about me signing the baseball. So at certain point, it's kind of like you're just kind of, like, laughing and doing it and saying, like, this guy's got me in a mental pretzel at the fact that. The fact that he's bullying me and. But also, don't tell me that some of the smartest sporting individuals on the planet aren't smart enough to. To differentiate a kid who wants an autograph for his collection and these guys who are making money. The worst ones, though, Wit and Yan are the ones who bring their kids. Their kids aren't even in school, and they're using their kids to get the Audi.
- [114:04]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah.
- [114:05]
Biz Nasty
So.
- [114:05]
Ryan Whitney
And. And the vets, like Sid, they. They sniff that out.
- [114:08]
Biz Nasty
Oh, yeah.
- [114:09]
Ryan Whitney
They, like, they, like, always know which kids are with Seekers and then which kids are legit, like human kids that. That aren't being trolled around by Seekers to get superstars autographed. So, yeah, a viral video that I don't think went as that guy thought it would go when he posted it, where surprisingly, like, most people realize, like, all right, like, get away from them, basically.
- [114:30]
Biz Nasty
It's my favorite.
- [114:31]
Keith Yandle
My favorite seeker. Remember K. Vaughn in Toronto?
- [114:34]
Biz Nasty
His name was Cave on the big guy.
- [114:37]
Keith Yandle
No, no, he was a small, tiny guy. He hung out with the big guy.
- [114:40]
Ryan Whitney
But he would follow you the.
- [114:42]
Keith Yandle
The entire. It was when you used to stay close to the rink and he would walk with you the entire way and I'd sign right as I walked in, so I'd make him walk with me the whole time. He was hilarious. Me and Keith Ballard loved this guy.
- [114:54]
Biz Nasty
Hey, well, at least he gave you a little friendship, you know?
- [114:57]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, yeah. They still text. They still text.
- [115:01]
Biz Nasty
He lives in Yan's side house there where we record the podcast.
- [115:06]
Ryan Whitney
Next on the list here I have the Wild and we'll get into in a second, but quickly. I just want to mention, like, what we're watching from Colorado right now is. Is they're actually, like, on a pace and they've only played 22 games. Like, they're looking like that Bruins team that broke the record for points and everyone knows how that ended in the first round and Florida takes them out. But this Colorado team is heads and shoulders like above everyone else. They have one loss in regulation. It was to the Bruins. It was an afternoon game in the Garden. It still took a great effort out of Boston to get that win. But McCarr is on like a record setting pace. McKinnon is. McKinnon netches like just this whole Colorado team. Not only are they the top of the watch list in terms of entertainment and like how incredibly fast the team is, but they're drumming everyone. So it's wild to see right now.
- [115:53]
Keith Yandle
October 25th with what. That's when they lost to the Bruins. That was their last regulation win loss.
- [116:00]
Ryan Whitney
And when you're losing games in ot, like if you're really struggling, you get to ot, you lose a game like it's like, it's a bummer. But you're like, we got a point. For them to lose these games in ot, it's like, all right, dude, we lost in a shootout. OT could have gone either way. Just the amount of wins they have, it's just. And, and, and never leaving the building without a point. It if for we're coming up on Thanksgiving, they have one game without a point. Like what the is going on here? So I just wanted to shout them out.
- [116:28]
Biz Nasty
But the Wild just quickly though, like I would say the other storyline obviously is like going back to a year ago is they don't even have these two goalies and now they're doing what they. They're doing. Like I think that I saw your.
- [116:39]
Ryan Whitney
Tweet about Team Canada.
- [116:41]
Biz Nasty
I don't know, man. I, I mean you take the. At least as one of the guys, the hottest guy in the league. I think that Logan Thompson's probably still there, but like if he keeps up this pace and he's getting well now that Blackwood's back, it's probably going to go back to just flipping back and forth, which is also great for that team because you keep them both fresh.
- [117:01]
Ryan Whitney
Right?
- [117:01]
Biz Nasty
I mean that's, that's a successful system they got going on. But I mean, good for the kid, man. He's been a journeyman. I believe he's on his fifth team and then he gets that one year extension this year and, and he's like, I think overall, like, I think he's like, you know, eighth and save percentage, you know, fifth in goals against or whatever it may be. Maybe he's first in goals against, but he's all. All across the leaderboard, in every goalie statistical stat.
- [117:26]
Ryan Whitney
So just split biz. If they split the rest of the year and they get to the playoffs, then the question arises like I think you still do it. Like the Bruins up. They did it all year. They went to Omar, they lose. RA was flipping out that Swamin wasn't playing. If they, if they continue this run and they win the President's Trophy and they're. They're going back and forth like, just do it.
- [117:51]
Biz Nasty
Let me, let me ask you this. If they're both clicking at the same rate that they've been playing and I know obviously you're playing with Colorado, you're getting the run support. By the way, they had back to back shutouts. The both. The both of them in under 24 hours going back to the Blackhawks game. And I forget who they played the night before or is Nashville. Well, that's not hard. Would you. Would you consider bringing them as a tandem for team Canada and then you fill in the other spot?
- [118:19]
Ryan Whitney
No, because they're a tandem on a team where they're going every other night Olympics. You're not doing that. That. You know what I mean? Like, they're powerful together on the abs because, hey, Tuesday night we got. You got Wedgwood. Thursday night, Blackwood. Saturday night Wedgwood. And I, I think Canada, it's just, it's. That's not how it's going to work. They're gonna have one guy. Well, I mean, we saw bro during 2010, Luongo took over. But that wasn't like, hey, no matter what, going into this Olympics, we're switching starters every game. But in the playoffs, if they do this all year and they continue on a pace even close to this, I think you're crazy. If game one and two, they both don't start a game, if they continue.
- [118:59]
Keith Yandle
This pace, we might not even have playoffs. They might just give them the mug after the regular season.
- [119:04]
Biz Nasty
Exactly.
- [119:05]
Ryan Whitney
Said in Boston. And next thing you know, they were done.
- [119:09]
Biz Nasty
So the next thing you know, Marshawn was gone.
- [119:13]
Ryan Whitney
The Minnesota Wild guys are a wagon right now. And incredibly. What did we say they had? NF Zuccarello. The start was horrible. Faber's calling out his own play. Zook comes back and they have one loss, I think in eight games it's been since he came back and this team. Let me tell you how this relates to the Edmonton Oilers.
- [119:36]
Biz Nasty
Oh, no.
- [119:36]
Keith Yandle
Yeah.
- [119:38]
Biz Nasty
Oh, no.
- [119:39]
Ryan Whitney
Goaltending.
- [119:40]
Biz Nasty
Oh, no.
- [119:41]
Ryan Whitney
You guys know about Wallstead and you've seen what he's doing. And we can go back and we can go back to the 2021 NHL Draft and the Edmonton Oilers with that tweet. And you want to go see some replies that'll make you laugh to a tweet, go look at that tweet. Every fan of the Edmonton Oilers was staying. Take this goalie from Sweden. Take him and run. We got McDavid, we got Leon, we have a goalie. What did the Oilers do? They traded two spots back and they got a third rounder as well. And they took Xavier Borgo, who hasn't played an NHL game. No offense to this guy, right? You know, he's a scorer in the Quebec League. He's playing in the AHL right now with Belleville, I think the Senators team. But the Wild grabbed that pick and they took Wallstadt. And Wallstadt is a full blown wall. You can't score on the guy. He's got three shutouts, I think in his last seven games. Gustafson added another one. They got four shutouts in the last game. Edmonton's watching sieve after sieving, red light after red light. And we had the pick to take this guy and we traded two picks back. It didn't take them.
- [121:00]
Keith Yandle
Was it like automatic? Like they knew the next player gonna get drafted was this goalie. And Edmonton, Minnesota wanted him.
- [121:06]
Ryan Whitney
Minnesota wanted him, obviously. And Edmonton shouldn't have want him. And, and listen, this is when people say like I could be a gm and sometimes you're like, buddy, no, you like every Oilers fan was like, take Wallstead.
- [121:19]
Keith Yandle
How did they know?
- [121:20]
Ryan Whitney
Because there was a big prospect. I mean not often are goalies picked that high anymore. Dude, it's, it's, it's a different world where you don't Flurry goes first overall. Like I don't know if we'll ever see that again. And so first round pick, 20th overall. We got McDavid, we got Leon, we need a goalie. Let's trade the pick to Minnie for two picks back for a forward, which we don't need, and let Mini get the goalie of the future that's now lighting up the NHL. So it all comes back to Edmonton and all the glory goes to a Dinah and the rest of Minneapolis. And watching this stud.
- [121:50]
Biz Nasty
This is a hard mini podcast right now.
- [121:52]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, they should be, they should be loving life right now. They should be. Their team's a wagon. They got Zuccarello back. He's lighting it up. Faber, the favor thing, he did look brutal at the beginning of the year, but he calls himself out in the locker room, like, calling yourself out to the media takes it. You may. May think I'm sounding ridiculous. It takes guts. It's like I, I know the fans are saying this, and I know. And I know when I'm playing bad more than anyone else does, and I'm not doing the job right now. Dude. In the last 12 games, 11 games, he has 10 points, he's playing 26 minutes a game. And Spurgeon, who called a players only meeting and went over everything, and he's a quiet guy. We interviewed him a few years ago. In the last, I think 10 games, he's played 180 minutes, five on five. He hasn't been on the ice for a goal against, like, wow, that's leadership. Like, all these guys kind of look themselves in the mirror and they got obviously a guy. Succurell. You play with Keith back, who's a locker room guy, and they look awesome. They, they, they look great. I don't know if they can catch Dallas or, or Colorado. That division's nuts, but they are what we thought they were going into the season.
- [122:57]
Keith Yandle
They haven't. They haven't trailed in a game since November 7th, which is insane. Like, I mean, obviously when you have a goalie like Walstead just kicking everything out in the oiler's face, it's a little bit easier. But, yeah, we talked about it. I knew what Zoop brings to a locker room, like, because, you know the ebbs and flows of a season, you're gonna lose games, you're going to be winning games. But I know he's a guy that just really keeps everybody in perspective, everybody loose, but also brings a certain type of intensity. So. Couldn't be more happy for him, especially. He's getting older too, right? It's like, okay, I gotta play for another contract. I want to keep playing. The guy loves hockey, so I don't see him retiring anytime soon. But it's got to be fun watching. I was watching the other night, like, that building looked electric.
- [123:41]
Biz Nasty
He just, he just seems like such a smart player where you always get a little bit nervous maybe about his speed. I wouldn't consider him the fastest guy. How is he is. You think he's one of those guys that's going to be able to play forever just because he's so cerebrally. Cerebrally. So you say it cerebrally. Mentally good. Like on the hockey side of things. Like, is that, like, what's it about his game, Yan's, that impresses you the most?
- [124:07]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, his. I mean, he has that huge Stick. But his ability to just like fine guy. He's one of the best pastors I ever played with. He made a little bump past the other. I think it was to Faber and then Faber. No, no, it was to middle, Middle Middleton and then Middleton passed it to Kirill. But just like a heads up little play in the middle. Like he. His hockey IQ is off the charts. Yeah, he's not the best skater, but he's always in a good position. He's got that long stick he can. He's not a liability defensively, but I think just the way he thinks the game out there. Like he gets everybody involved. Like Kirill wouldn't be the player he is if he didn't have Zook playing with him the last few years. Like everybody just benefits when he's out on the ice.
- [124:49]
Ryan Whitney
And baldy too. I think Billy g said like 50, 50. Or was it 40?
- [124:54]
Biz Nasty
40, 40.
- [124:56]
Ryan Whitney
That guys can score. He's getting better every single year. He's enormous. He's got sick hands. It's a fun team to watch. Keith. The building was electric. And my final thing is the pasha under the hood. I don't really know like how they figure this stat out, but Wallstadt and Gustafson, they got in November. They have 13.78 saves above expected. I. I'm pretty sure that's like insane, right? Like where I don't know how whoever tracks that like what, what you're supposed to save or not, but it just shows both of those guys are lights out.
- [125:30]
Keith Yandle
And.
- [125:30]
Ryan Whitney
And as Jack Parker said, you don't need to. You could call hockey goalie. That's pretty, pretty much how you figure out this sport.
- [125:37]
Biz Nasty
And I was gonna, I was gonna say that to you. I was go going over the outline with Jeff. I said who was it who said that? He goes, I think it was Whit and Jack Parker that they should rename the sport Goalie. Yep.
- [125:49]
Ryan Whitney
And who knows, he might have made it up, but I know it's been a saying and it's true. And before we go to Donnie does to talk a little peeking biz, I want to talk about Ottawa and a pretty sick article that I read in the Athletic. Julian Mackenzie wrote it. So they're 94 and 4 since the Brady injury, which is. That's, that's. Or is that their. Yeah, that's there since his injury I believe. And Stutzel's been awesome. And the interesting part of the article was Daniel Alfredson, who's an assistant coach with Ottawa now finally convinced him to tape his Entire blade. And I've always wondered. So he always had a tape job, A little tape at the toe. I've never got that. And I see kids do it now. It's like, dude, these. These. The blades of these sticks, they're so, like, slippery. And. Oh, yeah, the tape, to me, like, matters a lot of Alfreds. It would stay on them and stay on them. And then they blew out the Bruins in a game, and he ended up getting two goals with all the tape on the stick. And Alfredson convinced him to stick that out. And in the 11 games he's had that, he has 12 points, eight goals. And I'm pretty sure it, like, makes a difference. Like, you can't tell me shooting a puck on how slippery the blade is is probably missing the net.
- [127:02]
Biz Nasty
I'd be interested to see is missing the net stats just because, like, Luke Robo. Yeah, what's that?
- [127:08]
Keith Yandle
Like, Luke Robitaille said, you got to hit the net to score. Like, these. These kids think hit. Hitting the glass is cool, but it goes back. Like, if a Hall of Famer like Daniel Alfredson tells you something to do, just try it out, give it a shot. It may work. Like, listen to these guys. They've done it.
- [127:26]
Ryan Whitney
But I have always thought, like, the guys would. Then some people pull it off. I'm like, I don't know how you stick handle even on those blades without tape. But that was kind of cool.
- [127:34]
Biz Nasty
I mean, there is one guy who could do it. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? This mother. This. Okay, so we're in Columbus, US. I think I've told you this story on the POD before where we're in Columbus. We have an optional skate. We've been on a run. The boys are loving it. The room's loose, and so there's probably about six of us on the ice, and we're. I think. I don't think Smitty skated. And it might have been Labarbera or Gricer. So all of a sudden, like, the. The guys who aren't practicing. And remember in Columbus, they have the main rink and then the practice rinks attached to it, but you have to kind of walk around. It's a bit of a trek. So next thing you know, like, all the boys start, like, filtering out watching this practice. And, like, probably, I'd say by the end of it, at least, like, eight, nine guys. And you could tell they're just up.
- [128:29]
Ryan Whitney
Something's going on here.
- [128:30]
Biz Nasty
They're giggling. But this probably was my best practice of all time. I Was sniping. I couldn't miss a pass. I couldn't miss receiving a pass. I basically looked like Wayne Gretzky out there. And finally, finally he comes on the bench, he goes, check out your stick. These put clear tape around my. My white tape so it would be slippery. And they thought they were gonna come out for practice and I was gonna be missing everything.
- [129:00]
Ryan Whitney
It helped you.
- [129:02]
Biz Nasty
I was the best I've ever been.
- [129:04]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, you might Keith. You guys must have been like, how is he doing this? Right? Yeah.
- [129:07]
Keith Yandle
It was the most shocking thing I've ever seen. And he tried it in the game the next day.
- [129:14]
Ryan Whitney
What's crazy is everyone's so in tune with their stick and their tape job. Like, how did you not even see that?
- [129:21]
Biz Nasty
No, I was out there just putting around.
- [129:25]
Ryan Whitney
He's doing the square off drill with.
- [129:27]
Biz Nasty
Somebody else looking at myself in the glass just, you know, out there having a skate. That is you guys were. The look on your faces as you guys are laughing. I'm like, what the are these guys up to? I go, they must have stuck, sawed my stick or something and are waiting for it to break. But those are the, those are the little things that I will miss about being around the rink and being around the boys. So with that being said, anything else on Ottawa or.
- [129:53]
Ryan Whitney
No, just the comments in that article on the in. In the Athletic. Like it's Cole Caufield, Paul Maurice, Mike Matheson and a couple other coaches too that are talking about Stutzel and like how unreal this guy is. I don't think he gets a lot of like, he's incredible player, he's so fast. But Maurice is talking about his compete. They talked him about face offs before the year. He's never been above 47 in his career. He's at 60 right now. So like just. Yeah, you worked with him.
- [130:23]
Biz Nasty
Just.
- [130:24]
Ryan Whitney
Okay, now before anyone tries to gotcha culture me. At one point I had a tape job where there wasn't the toe, didn't have tape on it. So it almost like end in the middle of the blade or towards the end. But I was like, I don't want the puck on my toe at all. So that's like more hey, right. Never handling it there. I'm not doing toe drags, but to have it not in the heel is crazy to me.
- [130:48]
Biz Nasty
So yeah, so I mean there's a lot of ways we can break this down. So you see some guys where like the way that Connor McD or not Connor McDavid, Connor Bard shoots where he elevates that top arm where it's almost like he scoops it with the toe part and like. And like snaps it and use a lot of the flexion of the stick. If you go back to that picture, some guys, the way they shoot is they start by pushing it where. Near. Near where the heel is. So they don't necessarily shoot it right off the toe. So I guess in this case you would have way more leverage where if you were doing that on the first half of that blade, it might skid out. So I don't know exactly how he shoots, but this is clearly just for like a tow shooter on the 2024 version in the fact that it looks like a penis on the end of his blade.
- [131:37]
Keith Yandle
You. You think guys are shooting from the heel nowadays?
- [131:40]
Biz Nasty
I think that some guys, in their release, they'll start pushing it from that. Like maybe with like a. With a snapshot. It depends how you shoot. Like, some guys. Maybe some guys are more inclined to take one timers where they're getting it and they're kind of cupping it more. So I don't want to say on the heel. I would say more towards the middle, but in some cases, it would start on the heel side and work its way towards the toe. Like, I. It's all about how you shoot the puck. But maybe that's why Alfie was watching him do it and being like, if you're gonna shoot like that, you need that. That traction there.
- [132:17]
Keith Yandle
Yeah.
- [132:18]
Ryan Whitney
So it's pretty.
- [132:18]
Keith Yandle
He's not even taping the. He's not even taping the bottom either. He's just putting a strip.
- [132:23]
Ryan Whitney
That's fine though, because you're getting more slide. Whatever. Maybe you like that, but where you're handling it, to me, no tape is nuts.
- [132:29]
Biz Nasty
Well, that's what guys started doing. Like you just said wit, because the friction along the ice is. Is not necessarily good. So I'd see guys tape their whole stick from heel to toe, and they would take the exacto knife and they would literally just cut a strip on each side and remove the. The. So where the bottom of the blade would be on what is like the composite part. So that's the best of both worlds. And that's like legit. Geppetto in the workshop.
- [132:56]
Keith Yandle
That's so time consuming.
- [132:58]
Ryan Whitney
But it's funny that he just put one across so he didn't have to deal with the knife cut. He's like, just plastered here. But Ottawa, good for them. Thomas Shabbat out a little bit. Kind of sucks. But, you know, they're top three in Atlantic right now and, and, and they're looking good and I thought without Brady, it would be a big time trouble and their goaltending was horrendous. So shout out Ottawa. But I'd be interested if they make.
- [133:19]
Biz Nasty
A, a move at the deadline too. If they're, if they're in the playoff picture. Yeah, it's. There's a shift now right now as far as the Canadian teams. It's happening, guys.
- [133:29]
Keith Yandle
They.
- [133:30]
Biz Nasty
They finally figured it out, these other guys. But without further ado. You touched on it.
- [133:34]
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Ryan Whitney
You're incredible. And Grinnelli says it actually seems like Biz went to third grade over the past year and can read. Now, that is. That's a. That's. That's a real punch in the face type compliment, but I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more.
- [136:33]
Keith Yandle
He's not. He's not taking it as an insult?
- [136:36]
Biz Nasty
No, no.
- [136:36]
Ryan Whitney
He's like, yes. Davenport University next, before Donnie comes.
- [136:40]
Biz Nasty
Donnie Astrology.
- [136:43]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, that's our guy. And apparently Grinelli says the Ottawa center is a big fish hunting. So that's just. That's a Grinelli. That's a good. I don't know what he knows. I don't know if he knows any.
- [136:52]
Keith Yandle
Puffs over 90 on his takes.
- [136:55]
Ryan Whitney
Where's Donnie? Bring him in. Biz calls this guy a genius. Did you know that?
- [137:00]
Andrew Ladd
Hey, how are you?
- [137:01]
Ryan Whitney
How you doing, guy?
- [137:03]
Donnie Does
Doing good. Am I a genius? I don't think so, but I know a lot about history and just like geography and that Biz has never paid attention to in his life.
- [137:13]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, you could tell him very basic things a lot of people know, and he's like, whoa. It's like the world's exploding. Me. Yeah.
- [137:21]
Donnie Does
Like I was telling him about Tony. Tony. Teddy Roosevelt. And his mind was blown. But to be fair, in Canada, maybe they don't teach you about Teddy Roosevelt at all.
- [137:29]
Ryan Whitney
True, true.
- [137:30]
Biz Nasty
No, we didn't learn a lot about American history. I think that we had to learn. Well, I mean, like, World War II is the one that we got involved in. Right?
- [137:39]
Donnie Does
World War I, too.
- [137:40]
Biz Nasty
Oh, World War I.
- [137:41]
Keith Yandle
And I.
- [137:42]
Biz Nasty
And I. Is it true that in World War I that Canada got involved because they accidentally sunk one of their ships?
- [137:50]
Donnie Does
No, that was the U.S. the Germans sunk the Lusitania.
- [137:55]
Biz Nasty
That's right. And then that's why the US Hopped on board. Okay.
- [137:58]
Ryan Whitney
He was around the strike zone. It was. It was a ball, but it wasn't like a complete wild pitch like Biz.
- [138:05]
Donnie Does
Have you ever heard of Lewis and Clark?
- [138:10]
Biz Nasty
I like that. Sounds familiar, but, like, I wouldn't be able to tell you why.
- [138:14]
Donnie Does
You don't know what they did?
- [138:16]
Biz Nasty
No.
- [138:17]
Donnie Does
Okay.
- [138:18]
Ryan Whitney
Do you know, you guys, I. I know they're explorers, I believe, but. Donnie, quickly. I'm sorry to hop in. G says to tell your producer to turn down your gain.
- [138:28]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, your mic stinks.
- [138:30]
Donnie Does
All right, he is not in the room with me right now, but I'll shoot him a text. I can also just put the mic.
- [138:35]
Keith Yandle
I thought you were a genius, Donnie.
- [138:38]
Donnie Does
Is this.
- [138:38]
Keith Yandle
Figure it the out.
- [138:39]
Ryan Whitney
He knows Lewis and Clark, but he doesn't know microphones.
- [138:43]
Donnie Does
Does it sound better when I have the mic further away from me?
- [138:45]
Ryan Whitney
Yes, it does. It does. It does. It does.
- [138:47]
Biz Nasty
It does.
- [138:48]
Ryan Whitney
So don't worry.
- [138:50]
Biz Nasty
But while your producer comes in there and fixes that mic, we can ask you a few questions. How. How excited are you about the response to episode one of peaking?
- [139:01]
Donnie Does
It's been awesome. I mean, I knew people were gonna love it because people love the pilot. And I was like, this is just bigger and better than the pilot pilot. So I'm pumped about the support. Hopefully it means we can do a season at least once a year, because that would be a dream come true.
- [139:16]
Ryan Whitney
Biz mentioned to me two seasons a year, possibly he and Donnie. I don't know if you saw the episode when Biz came on after, like, he got emotional. And I could tell as a. As a friend, like, it meant a lot to him. So I can't wait for the next two. The first one I was dying laughing at. Just incredible. And I got to give you credit while also chirping you, you can hike. It may not look like that, but you could hike. But I was amazed at the. You wanted a warm up on the mountain bike so badly. I didn't get that. Like, it's a bike.
- [139:46]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, it's hoping that was a bit.
- [139:48]
Donnie Does
And most bikes when I get on, I know how to, like, turn the gears up and down. And for some reason on that bike, I could only turn it in one direction.
- [139:55]
Keith Yandle
You're going downhill.
- [139:57]
Donnie Does
And then meanwhile, like, on the hike up, Biz had given me a Scooby snack. I was starting to feel that a little bit, and I was like, I'm about to mountain bike for the first time. I just kind of, like, just wanted to get a feel for it. Like, I. I knew if I had 10 minutes just on that little practice course, I would have been good. But he. He wouldn't let me get that.
- [140:15]
Keith Yandle
The best is when they showed the sign. Practice for 10 minutes. And Donnie's like, yeah, see, Biz, we should have been doing it. But you didn't. You didn't. You didn't get any orders in with Biz. You didn't go to a restaurant with him.
- [140:27]
Biz Nasty
Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I. Listen, we won't. We weren't doing the mellow mushroom on this trip. He took me to the worst restaurant I've ever been to in my life. Like, the worst piece of pizza. I wouldn't feed it to my dog, especially if my girlfriend hadn't taken it. But I knew. I knew you guys would appreciate that one. But ever. How good was the cuisine along the route in. In B.C. whether it was Whistler, whether it was mainland or in Tofino, and. And then where we ended up.
- [140:56]
Donnie Does
Yeah, Tofino blew me away. That was some of the best seafood I've had. I thought kind of like the northeast in the U.S. like, that's where the best seafood in the. I don't know, in the world is. But, like, Tofino is a close second. A close second to, like, Cape Cod, South Shore, Massachusetts. I was very impressed. We had those blackened oysters that were. They were like, stuffed blackened oysters. Yeah. No, we didn't really have a single bad meal on the trip. I did, like, Biz had some insane orders. I just wasn't fast enough breaking the phone out. It wasn't during a live stream, but just, you know, with Biz, like, even if he's going into a Starbucks, like, it's gonna take at least 20 minutes.
- [141:39]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, yeah. It's just. He can't do a normal order. He can't do it. But he's very friendly doing it. But it's like, dude, when you're behind him in line, it's banana bread from Starbucks, buddy.
- [141:51]
Biz Nasty
Like, what do you mean? I just get it not warmed up.
- [141:57]
Keith Yandle
Like a blueberry muffin and then a large iced coffee, but no ice. So a hot coffee.
- [142:04]
Donnie Does
I. I think our first meal in Vancouver, he was like, yeah, can I get the honey garlic chicken salad? But could you take the honey and the garlic off the chicken?
- [142:11]
Keith Yandle
Yep.
- [142:14]
Biz Nasty
No. That's where I almost got my truck towed before the trip had even started.
- [142:18]
Keith Yandle
When we went, it was a bigger tow truck.
- [142:20]
Biz Nasty
Yeah. Yeah. What do you make of my truck, Donnie?
- [142:26]
Donnie Does
Dude, it's. It's too big. It was. It was very inconvenient just finding places to park that thing the entire.
- [142:32]
Biz Nasty
Shut up, dude. We ripped around all of British Columbia in that. In, like, the most comfortable whip going.
- [142:38]
Ryan Whitney
They could only hike near 18 wheel rest stops.
- [142:43]
Donnie Does
Yeah. Like you. We came out and a guy was getting ready to tow your car, and that would have ruined the entire trip because I guess you've just been racking up parking tickets in Vancouver for. But you're like, oh, but I don't live in Vancouver anymore, so it's fine, like, as long as I don't get one more in Vancouver, like, I can keep the truck.
- [143:01]
Biz Nasty
Oh, they're savages. They'll let people. You could shoot up on the side of the street, but you can't park your car five minutes past the meter goes. And then just ticket. Yeah.
- [143:10]
Donnie Does
Biz showed me that. I was complimenting him. I was like, vancouver is such a nice city. This place is sick. And he was like, all right, I just got to show you, like, a few blocks. And we went away from one of the nicest areas of the city. Then all of a sudden, you're just in a war zone. Just.
- [143:23]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, East Hastings. What other thing. What other things did you appreciate about British Columbia?
- [143:30]
Donnie Does
The scenery, the people? I don't think we ran into any, actually. The only. We ran into. So when we got to Russet Lake, the end of our hike, there's. There's a hut up there, too, that you can reserve in advance. And it was booked up for us, so we had to camp. But at that point, we were completely out of water. We were hurting. Corey, especially, was hurting. And I was like, hey, Biz, when you get up there, just see if they have some filtered water for.
- [143:56]
Ryan Whitney
For us.
- [143:57]
Donnie Does
Just let them know that we, like, are, like, need something fast. And when you guys asked him, they just pointed at the lake, which was like 200 yards away.
- [144:08]
Biz Nasty
Oh, yeah, they were dicks. They were dicks. They really. Really. One of those moments.
- [144:12]
Ryan Whitney
You guys are probably loud, too. Biz, they were probably like, who are you?
- [144:17]
Biz Nasty
So I. I wasn't.
- [144:20]
Donnie Does
And.
- [144:20]
Biz Nasty
And I don't. I don't say Wonton was either. But he went down there and he had the cameras out. So all of a sudden, these people who got there a few hours earlier, which you're probably supposed to, in order to give yourself enough time to set up the camp, they're just. I'm like, donnie, I think we should kind of keep the cameras low here. And he. He was so shroomed out that he was speaking with a. A louder voice than he should have been. And that's why, throughout the course of that whole part of the video, I keep going, shh. Because he was talking a little bit louder.
- [144:48]
Donnie Does
Yeah. You were very concerned about that. That's your Canadian politeness about others.
- [144:52]
Ryan Whitney
He really does and tries food now.
- [144:56]
Donnie Does
Was arriving at the campsite, was that the, like, low point of the first vid? Because we were in tough shape. Like, Corey could barely walk with his knees. We were all dehydrated. Was there a part of you being like, how are we going to get out of here? Because that. Because that's what I was thinking.
- [145:11]
Biz Nasty
No, I was really having a good time. I was flying high on the shrooms, and I was just very happy to be there and knowing that we to. Were going to heat up some water and do those. Those meals. I'll say. I could eat that spaghetti bolognese every single night of my life. That's how good I felt. I thought I was. And I'm glad we cooked that up. But no, I was in such a good mood hanging out with you boys. Donnie. I did feel bad for Corey and, like, we got to pump our editor's tires because they not only do the Trek and the journey with just as heaviest packs as us, you know, Corey's knees are not in the best of shape and he has to go home and edit the whole thing as well as you do, Donnie, but you're in front of the camera, so he barely gets any camera time. So we can't thank our editors, him and Tyler enough. And there was a few other guys that helped as well as you edit, right?
- [146:03]
Donnie Does
Yeah, shout out Nick Snow. He helped a bunch as well. And Goldfinger helped with the credits. So, yeah, shout them all out. Corey was the one who edited that crazy, like, super solar system tripping out scene after you went to bed. Yeah, that was a nice touch.
- [146:19]
Ryan Whitney
Are there any teasers you could give for maybe your favorite moment of the remaining two episodes?
- [146:26]
Donnie Does
Yeah, so episode two. I wasn't. I wouldn't say it gets, like, super serious or anything. It's just me and Biz having a great time at Tofino. We go. We go surfing, we fish. We filmed a great fishing scene.
- [146:37]
Biz Nasty
It's insane.
- [146:38]
Donnie Does
I think it goes toe for toe for some of the best fishing content that Barstool has done. We kind of turned it into a hockey game, so I'm sure all the Chiclets listeners will love that. I. And, yeah, I don't want to spoil anything more about that. And then.
- [146:51]
Biz Nasty
Well, we actually are going to spoil it a little bit because we're going to play a trailer for episode two right now. Donnie, for everybody.
- [146:57]
Ryan Whitney
Hey.
- [146:57]
Biz Nasty
Okay, that looks like a vagina right there. It's not over. Oh, army mate. The army, mate.
- [147:11]
Donnie Does
Genghis Khan. Have you ever heard him.
- [147:12]
Biz Nasty
Never heard of that.
- [147:14]
Keith Yandle
Oh, More fish for Biz.
- [147:29]
Ryan Whitney
What did you bite into there, Biz?
- [147:31]
Biz Nasty
Oh, my God. Ask him about it. But I would say the most high octane scene of the entire series is the boating scene when we're fishing with Lance for co host salmon. They took us to an unreal spot. We saw sea cows on the way and it was.
- [147:50]
Donnie Does
It just means cows that lived on the beach.
- [147:53]
Biz Nasty
Yeah.
- [147:54]
Keith Yandle
Not a manatee.
- [147:55]
Donnie Does
No, not a manatee.
- [147:57]
Biz Nasty
No. And then it felt like we were fishing in a tropical rainforest with the climate and stuff. So some of the coolest fishing that I've ever done. And Donnie, I'll throw it over to you for what I ate while we were surfing.
- [148:10]
Donnie Does
Well, dude, so while I'm surfing, just like a. A cabbage floats up next to me, just like a normal cabbage you buy in the grocery store, but at. Somehow floated up on the beach. And then I. I gave it to Biz as a gift, as a joke. And he just immediately took a giant bite, which cannot be good for you.
- [148:29]
Ryan Whitney
He asked you to take some part of it off the cabbage and maybe put a different sauce on.
- [148:34]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, yeah, I. I was just trying to. I was just trying to kind of get to Donnie's level because he's used to eating weird on these trips. He's done it in other series that he's done. And also in the boat when he was shotgunning a beer there, he was doing it with a piece of kelp, which is some. I'll let you explain that, though.
- [148:56]
Donnie Does
Oh, yeah, that was just a kelp bong. I think that's like, popular amongst fishermen in that area. But I mean, kelp you can. You can eat. It's seaweed. It's supposed to be in the sea. A random piece of cabbage that you find in the ocean. It's like, I. I don't even think I would take a bite out of that. Oh, that's how you get like E. Coli.
- [149:14]
Biz Nasty
Oh, all right.
- [149:15]
Keith Yandle
Perfect.
- [149:16]
Donnie Does
True.
- [149:17]
Keith Yandle
Biz tried to get a riot date up on one of those. On one of those sheep that you guys were barking on.
- [149:23]
Donnie Does
So I don't even know if Biz wants me talking about this. He did go on one riot date.
- [149:27]
Biz Nasty
No, Trip. No, we don't need to get into that.
- [149:30]
Donnie Does
We can't talk about it.
- [149:31]
Biz Nasty
It was.
- [149:32]
Ryan Whitney
I can't wait to ask.
- [149:33]
Biz Nasty
It was a good time, but I don't. I just don't. We. I just don't want to discuss it.
- [149:37]
Ryan Whitney
Okay, We'll Respect you, Biz.
- [149:41]
Biz Nasty
It gets a little lonely when you're doing these hiking. You have to snuggle up and spoon Donnie and Corey.
- [149:47]
Keith Yandle
Donnie, you did talk about you just had a kid, so you hadn't been hiking as much. Like, you must have been absolutely gassed. Like, even after the gross grind thing.
- [149:57]
Donnie Does
I feel like I have good endurance. Like, I'm not really fast, but I can hike for a while. But to be fair, like, my knees were also after these hikes. And it's because I didn't stretch. If only Biz had kind of walked me through a stretching routine, I would have been okay. But I've got, like, tight MCLs, which is that muscle on the side of your knee. And so that, like, was all banged up afterwards and I could barely bend my knee for. For a while after this trip. So I'm definitely. Yeah.
- [150:26]
Ryan Whitney
Did you notice something that you noticed quickly hanging out with Biz is the breathing. Like, it must have been ridiculous on hikes. There's a lot of.
- [150:36]
Donnie Does
I mean, he mentioned that he's like, it's tough for me to breathe because I've been punched in the face so many times. But no, no, I don't think we were close enough for that to annoy me.
- [150:44]
Ryan Whitney
Okay. Actually, he did.
- [150:45]
Donnie Does
He snored a lot in the tent. I could. I think, like, you and Corey took turns just snoring a bunch. So I didn't get too much sleep.
- [150:52]
Biz Nasty
But, oh, yeah, he was snoring a lot and loud. So interesting. Maybe that's what was waking me up. And then I would snore and wake him up. So it was just a snoring battle. That was where I discovered a lot about the solar system. I just. You guys think I'm crazy because, you know. You know when you're driving home at night and it's like 5 o', clock, 6 o', clock, and the sun hasn't quite set, but then you look up in the sky and then you're like, oh, the moon's out too. So you get the sun and the moon. Y. I. I don't spend. You don't just, like, sit there and then, like, watch it for. For hours to see it move? I'm just like, oh, there's the moon tonight. It's right there. So then I would just go back about my business. So I just assumed where, like, when the night hit, it would just stay in one spot and then that's where it was for that particular night. I didn't realize that throughout the course of a night, it Moved like the sun. Not saying that the sun moves, although it does, but you get what I'm saying. It moves in. In relation to when you're looking at the sky throughout the course of the whole day. I just thought that the moon just stayed in its spot and was a good boy.
- [152:03]
Donnie Does
Okay. Is that fair? I feel like. Yeah.
- [152:05]
Ryan Whitney
So you. I think that's a perfect explanation to, like, a second grade class. Like, hey, guys, when you're driving home from school and you see the sun and the moon at the same time, just know that when you see the moon later, it'll be in a different place. And. And then just go about your business. I think that's a piss word. And I just go about my business.
- [152:23]
Donnie Does
Yeah, I think that's perfect.
- [152:25]
Biz Nasty
I think that's a relative explanation. I learned about the Pluto thing. We've already talked about that.
- [152:32]
Donnie Does
We saw in the trailer. That biz did not know who Genghis Khan is. I feel like even if you're not a history guy, you've. You've heard that name, right?
- [152:41]
Biz Nasty
No, I've heard the name, but I. Even when you said it, I don't even know if I'd heard the name before. I thought that maybe it was like an old movie. Did they make a movie out of it?
- [152:51]
Donnie Does
I'm sure at some point.
- [152:52]
Biz Nasty
And did you. Were you guys aware of this guy who conquered the most land in the history of the world?
- [152:58]
Ryan Whitney
I. I knew roughly who he was. I knew. I think he had like, a million kids. I'm guessing that was one thing about Genghis Khan, Donnie. Correct.
- [153:06]
Donnie Does
Yeah. I think they say, like, 2% of the world's population has some of the same genes as Genghis Khan.
- [153:14]
Keith Yandle
Business con. It's like.
- [153:17]
Donnie Does
Yeah.
- [153:20]
Ryan Whitney
He was with Trevor Linden this weekend. He wants in on next season.
- [153:24]
Biz Nasty
That's crazy. So he actually spends a lot of time in that pocket of Jackson, Wyoming. I want to say he bought on the. In like, in Utah and. Or Idaho. Somewhere in that pocket there where it's a. It's a nice little hidden gem because Trevor Lyndon, I. Donnie, when we were talking about this series, I was hoping that we would get him for a guest spot on the BC one, because that's where he lives full time. Like, that's his primary residence. And he's a machine. Like, he. He'll go like six, seven nights overnight into the woods.
- [153:56]
Keith Yandle
Really?
- [153:57]
Biz Nasty
Oh, yeah. He's is a. Like an anaerobic machine, too. The amount of, like, mild mileage he can track over the course of that setting up his own tent, living off of whatever he has in his bag. Like, Trevor Linden is a very, very experienced outdoorsman. I would be honored if he would join us. My goal is this is I want to give people different looks of. Of not only just the hiking but. But outdoor things. So Jackson, Wyoming is for sure on the list because we can do the rodeo. We could shoot guns.
- [154:30]
Donnie Does
And you have some land there, right?
- [154:32]
Biz Nasty
I would like to camp out on the land to start. I think that it would be fun to do the trek and the climb to the top of the Tetons where in some cases you. You're like chiseling in and you're using the ropes to get all the way up to the top and then you spend a night up top on top of the Tetons. There is a. My buddy did it Ross. And there's a license that you can get in order to go do that fly fishing experience would be different from the fishing that we did. I had a blast fly fishing and it was super cool. So do that there. But also from a different element is provide like the winter side of it. So we talked about maybe if we end up going and segueing it with the Olympics somehow going to Italy and doing something wintertime hiking and then doing some wintertime outdoor activities and then maybe hopefully going to like the semi finals and finals of. Of the Olympics. So my goal would to be moving forward do like two of these a year. And it's not just about hiking. There has to be other things that you do in the midst of it to kind of keep it different and interesting because you could only hike so much. Although I love it.
- [155:40]
Donnie Does
Like when we were in the Smoky Mountains, we saw midgets wrestle as well.
- [155:44]
Biz Nasty
That's. That was in the pilot episode that we did. So I don't know how many people even know that we did a pilot. So go check that out on the Wanton's YouTube channel.
- [155:52]
Keith Yandle
But yes, it could be incredible if you had wit go with you one time just to see him.
- [155:57]
Ryan Whitney
I would. 100 I would. 100 you would. I. I don't know if I'd agree to stay over in a camp, but I'll go for a big hike with them. I'll go for a big hike. But we got a. We got167,000 views and four days. So good for you guys, man.
- [156:11]
Donnie Does
Yeah, it's going well. I mean if. If we went to Italy, that'd be a dream. I've been to those mountains before, the Dolomite mountains where they're they're hosting all the, like, mountain events for the Olympics. I got stranded on a mountain there where me and my wife were in town, and we weren't skiing, but they had these beautiful huts on the top of these mountains where you can just go hang out. So we took the gondola up, and we were just hanging out, having a great time. And then finally the bartender was like, hey, the. The gondola closes in a half hour. You should probably leave. So we leave. We. By the time we get to the gondola, it had closed. So we go back to the hut, and the hut had closed, and all of a sudden, everybody had just left and just skied down the mountain. And we were just stranded at this hut on top of the mountain. I saw this one guy on, like, a snowplow. I. I called him over, and I was like, hey, we need help. We're stranded up here. And he was like, I don't speak English, and just drove away. So me and my wife ended up just having to slide down on our butts the entire mountain.
- [157:09]
Ryan Whitney
That must be kind of fun.
- [157:12]
Donnie Does
Yeah, she was kind of scared. Like, I'm pretty sure there were tears. I mean, they had turned off all the lights. It was pitch black.
- [157:20]
Biz Nasty
That's the worst part is no lights, too.
- [157:22]
Donnie Does
So we could see lights that were on at the bottom of the mountain, and we just had to, like, slowly slide down on our butts.
- [157:28]
Biz Nasty
How long did it take you?
- [157:30]
Donnie Does
Probably 45 minutes.
- [157:32]
Ryan Whitney
An hour, I guess, too. Like, when I say fun, like, you could kind of catch an edge there, too. And all of a sudden, you're rolling uncontrollably, so that. Yeah, that is a panic.
- [157:42]
Donnie Does
Yeah.
- [157:43]
Ryan Whitney
Thanks, honey.
- [157:44]
Donnie Does
If I was with Biz and we were filming for content, that would be perfect. But when you're with your wife, she did not sign up for that.
- [157:50]
Biz Nasty
Donnie, I just kind of told you what my vision is for the show. Like, I love hanging out with you, and. And you're. For those people who are listening who don't really know Donnie's background. Like, he's done a million different things and been a million different places. Where. Where would you like to bring this series moving forward? Like, what types of locations?
- [158:09]
Donnie Does
Yeah, I like doing varied locations. So doing something in the Southwest, like Arizona, where you live, just because the landscapes would be completely different. And then eventually taking it abroad. Like, there's a hike in Guatemala where you can see this active volcano and the lava flowing down at night. Kilimanjaro is, like, the end goal. I think I Talked about it the last time we were on this pod, but I don't think we have Everest in us. Maybe you do, but that's not on my bucket list, climbing Everest. But I think we could do Kilimanjaro. That you can do it in a week. We already know Chris Long, who, like, hikes with other people in the NFL every few years to raise money for his charity. I feel like that is very doable.
- [158:53]
Keith Yandle
Join you. Bizarre.
- [158:55]
Biz Nasty
That would be a great guess.
- [158:56]
Donnie Does
We.
- [158:57]
Biz Nasty
We could also do one in that New England pocket. Mount Washington you mentioned is probably one of the highest peaks in that area, if not the United States.
- [159:07]
Donnie Does
Yeah. It's also the windiest place on Earth, I think.
- [159:10]
Keith Yandle
Really?
- [159:11]
Biz Nasty
Yeah. So that would be cool to get Wit involved and maybe Char and a few other Bruins around there. We almost had Amendola, who was supposed to be part of. Of that hike that we did in episode three, which we haven't really discussed that much so far. So we were originally only going to do two episodes, but because of that unique opportunity that popped up with Tyler, David Vora, and of course, Chaser, we ended up just having to make it three episodes. So the. The last one has a lot more sentimental value and is not as like, maybe as like, quote unquote, funny and silly.
- [159:46]
Donnie Does
I would say it's still very funny. It just also has a sentimental aspect. Aspect.
- [159:49]
Biz Nasty
Sentimental aspect where we had a blast. And it. You're right, it did capture that, like the. The hippo mode that we have at the end at Moat Lake. And for those of you, Donnie, like, how would you describe Moat Lake and when we first got there?
- [160:04]
Donnie Does
I mean, it's incredible because, like, most of the time when you're in a national park, you're not finding a private cabin in the middle of a lake there, but because this guy. Shout out, Clint Wood. Is that his last name? Yeah, Clint Wood. He's the man. His great grandfather, I think, bought that land off the railroad company before it became a national park and built a couple cabins. So then when it became a national park, he was just grandfathered in. So now his family just has this private cabin that you have to hike, like, six hours to. So we got to spend a night up there. It's in the middle of this pristine lake where you can drink the water. And I'm used to swimming in salt water. So me and Biz tried filming a Hippo Mode review there, and Biz almost drowned. He had to give up halfway through. He just had to swim to the shore, and then I almost drowned too. Because they were like, oh, the water's so clean. You can actually go underwater and, like, take a sip of the water while you're under it.
- [160:59]
Biz Nasty
Oh, I was doing that.
- [161:01]
Donnie Does
Yeah. So I tried doing that. I tried going underwater and drinking, which is what they call drowning where I'm from.
- [161:08]
Andrew Ladd
Oh, no, no.
- [161:09]
Biz Nasty
I was drinking the water, but I wasn't doing it, like, while it was underneath the water. Yeah. That's crazy.
- [161:13]
Donnie Does
Yeah. They said some people, like, can actually do that. I, I tried to.
- [161:17]
Biz Nasty
That.
- [161:18]
Donnie Does
It was terrifying. But that. That might be my favorite Hippo Mode review we've filmed so far.
- [161:24]
Ryan Whitney
First, Hippo mode that actually, like, drowned. Like, you know, there's no hippos drowning until you two do it.
- [161:30]
Keith Yandle
Yes, they can drink underwater.
- [161:32]
Biz Nasty
One of the coolest things about episode two is we go with that fishing with this guy Lance, and we catch the coho salmon and then bring it back. And the, the cook from the place called Shelter, which is, like, the best restaurant in town, they have an unreal setup. We had this Brazilian guy, we brought it in, we gave them the excess fish, and he cooked us up fresh on the spot. An unreal risotto salmon dish, and he even added in. What did he put in, like, these, like, shrimp, These. And then aft, as soon as we're done, that, boom. Killer whale in the, in the harbor area. It happens, like, two, three times a year. So, Lance, after helping us gut the fish and clean the fish and give it to the cook, we jump on his boat, and we got video of us seeing these four killer whales. And I guess we just miss, Miss them because they do it as a group. They just slaughtered. What is it, like a sea lion or something? So there was all this blood in, in the, in the harbor area, and that's how they were aware that there was these whales around. So it was pretty, pretty wild scene where, you know, two, three times a year, these whales get going through the harbor, and just so happens we're there to experience it. That's crazy.
- [162:42]
Ryan Whitney
It was a sign.
- [162:44]
Donnie Does
And Ryan, I don't know. Were you in this video? The very first time I collabed with Chiclets is I went fishing with you guys up in Boston.
- [162:51]
Ryan Whitney
I, I, I wasn't at that one. That's when Biz just went to sleep, right?
- [162:55]
Donnie Does
Yeah, yeah. Biz immediately was just like, I'm seasick. Went below deck and stayed there the entire time. So I can assure you this fishing video will be better.
- [163:04]
Keith Yandle
All right.
- [163:05]
Ryan Whitney
I love it. I love it. Donnie, we appreciate you swinging by as I Mentioned. Huge fan of the first episode, very excited for the next two. And whatever you guys do, you guys have great chemistry. It's funny.
- [163:16]
Biz Nasty
Oh, he's the best. Anything else you wanted to mention, Donnie, before we take off?
- [163:21]
Donnie Does
It seemed like at first. If you guys remember the scene from episode one where Biz is talking about foreskin, and he's like, oh, you know what? I think I'm gonna circumcise my future son. He sent me a text after we had a rough draft, and he was like, I don't really want the 4Z conversation on the Internet. And I was like, what are you talking about? You go on. Son of a boy. Dad, you're talking about Foursy.
- [163:42]
Ryan Whitney
He said he was gonna cut his off.
- [163:45]
Biz Nasty
I didn't know. Yeah, I wanted documented that I was gonna. You know, sometimes they got the people protesting with the signs, and they got the big red stain on the white jeans, and I don't know, they call it, like, mutilation of your kid. And I don't know. I don't know if I want my kid. No one.
- [164:01]
Donnie Does
No one's gonna hold it to you if you do end up having a son. No one's gonna be like, oh, you promised you were gonna serve you what.
- [164:08]
Biz Nasty
Donnie explained, and he's right. Like, normally it stays in the family. Like, my dad was uncut, so I was uncut, and I'm sure that his father was uncut. So is it bad for me to. To quote, unquote, cut the tradition?
- [164:22]
Ryan Whitney
Well, some people may say that you're. You're breaking the. The trauma in. In your family. Like, you're. You know, what's that term? Like, when you're. When you're finally getting rid of the trauma. Like, there's kids who deal with things from their dad.
- [164:34]
Biz Nasty
Trauma is chopping it off.
- [164:37]
Ryan Whitney
No, the trauma's having it, I think.
- [164:39]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, the trauma showering with 15 other guys in a hockey locker room and getting made fun of.
- [164:46]
Donnie Does
Yes, exactly.
- [164:48]
Ryan Whitney
Business brains moving right now.
- [164:50]
Keith Yandle
You also have to have a kid first.
- [164:52]
Biz Nasty
So what percentage of the population of the world do you think men are chopped?
- [165:00]
Donnie Does
So pretty much all Muslim countries circumcise, and that's like a. A big chunk of the country. Most people in the U.S. but, like, in the U.K. and Europe, people don't, like, normally really get chopped unless they're Jewish or Muslim. I feel like.
- [165:16]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, I feel like all the Euros. I play with the Swedes and everything. I think they were. They were foursy squad.
- [165:22]
Biz Nasty
Yeah. Covered wagons.
- [165:23]
Donnie Does
Yeah.
- [165:24]
Ryan Whitney
Interesting, Interesting. Who would have thought that a hiking show would lead to this discussion.
- [165:28]
Donnie Does
Yeah, yeah, true. I also want to applaud biz for staying sober, but there was a funny moment when we were up at the lake. I had a bottle of whiskey. And you're like, hey, do you mind just like taking a sip and just blowing your breath in my face for a bit? I just want to smell smells.
- [165:48]
Biz Nasty
Well, no, but I caught a whiff of when he was talking to me and it just. The chemistry it had with the saliva in your mouth at that time just made it. It just smelled like an unreal whiskey that I. That. That's a. The. That's as much satisfaction as I needed from that whiskey.
- [166:04]
Keith Yandle
Whiskey.
- [166:04]
Donnie Does
Yeah.
- [166:06]
Keith Yandle
Okay.
- [166:07]
Donnie Does
Yeah.
- [166:07]
Biz Nasty
And was a Canadian whiskey?
- [166:10]
Donnie Does
I think so. And. And that's what, like, we really didn't drink that much because, like on our first hike, we just hiked up.
- [166:16]
Keith Yandle
Wasn't it one day?
- [166:18]
Donnie Does
But on this hike, like, we got towards the end, there was no water. And like earlier in the trip, you're like, yeah, we're gonna take a bunch of shrooms. And like, then I was like, we gotta like focus on just actually surviving. Like on getting this tent set up and get on and getting some hot food cooked.
- [166:32]
Ryan Whitney
Like you didn't have enough water. But let's make sure I have my bottle of whiskey. Yeah, yeah, probably.
- [166:39]
Donnie Does
But yeah, hey, maybe we go two nights next trip.
- [166:42]
Keith Yandle
All right.
- [166:43]
Biz Nasty
I would do. I would do a two nighter. That's. That's the small steps. Baby steps.
- [166:48]
Keith Yandle
Right.
- [166:48]
Biz Nasty
The two nighter would be hopefully in Italy and we could do it a winter episode or winter season. Excuse me. And then save the next one for Jackson. So we'll see what's coming up and peeking. And I appreciate you hopping on Donnie. You're a hell of a teammate and I had a blast with you, man.
- [167:04]
Donnie Does
Thanks, man. Thanks for having me on Chiclets.
- [167:06]
Ryan Whitney
Awesome taking care of our biz.
- [167:08]
Keith Yandle
Donnie.
- [167:09]
Donnie Does
I'll always get them back to you in one piece.
- [167:12]
Andrew Ladd
Yeah.
- [167:13]
Donnie Does
All right.
- [167:14]
Ryan Whitney
With. With a foursy. All right, see you later, buddy. Thank you very much to Donnie, everyone. Check out peeking.
- [167:20]
Biz Nasty
What a guy.
- [167:21]
Ryan Whitney
Over, over, over Thanksgiving holiday. Check out Peking Flow Hockey, I guess is putting together a Greensboro Gargoyles mini documentary that releases this week. So stay, Stay tuned on their socials for that. I want to see that, see how that's going.
- [167:36]
Andrew Ladd
It's actually pretty cool with. So Chris Peters. We had him on game notes this past week. He works for Flow hockey now. He covers prospects minor leagues. And he was there the opening weekend that we Went down to Greensboro and they had been filming the team. And it's actually an emotional piece about everything our head coach Scott Burt has gone through over the last two years. So I, I can't suggest this enough. I think it's going to be an awesome piece and I believe it comes out around Tuesday. So make sure to check out Flow hockey socials and their YouTube for that.
- [168:04]
Ryan Whitney
I love that. I love that biz. Apparently you may have an idea to help the Leafs get out of this slump. And just quickly, I want to mention, like, Edmonton Oilers are nowhere near. I wish this the place they should be at, but they've played the most road games in the league. They just had a huge win against Florida. And by the way, that, that move by A.J. greer, that was dangerous to Trent Frederick. He pulls his legs out, could have buckled his head, but apparently he couldn't fight. He had something on his hand. I know he's very tough, but a great, great win for the Oilers to end that crazy road trip. The Leafs, on the other hand, they've played 15 home games, only seven on the road, in which they're one in six barely above.500 at home. So do you have any thoughts or ideas to maybe end it? Or are they just lottery bound?
- [168:53]
Biz Nasty
No. So last year in playoffs, we were collaborating with Snoop Dogg and his manager Kev, Big Kev, and we were going to drop those Death row shirts, the. The Maple Leafs ones. I got it on right there. And we never did because they lost game seven. And I mean, it is a very, very, very, very dark time in Leafland right now. The. The media has been brutal, the dark talking trade Matthews, trade everyone. We got to rebuild now. It's nonsense. Like we gotta pump the brakes here. We're just over 20 games into the season. If one guy who's been in the dumps and turn things around in the course of one season, it's Craig Berube when he chief, when they won the Stanley cup with the St. Louis Blues. They need a moment, right? They. They need a. A practice fight. Maybe, maybe two at this point. But I think that this T shirt drop and a promise that if the Leafs finish and we could figure this record out right now, between now and the Olympics, if they can achieve a great record with a certain amount of wins, Snoop Dogg will then come on our podcast. So we're dangling the carrot, okay? Toronto Maple Leaf.
- [170:08]
Ryan Whitney
Making me root for the Leafs is what you're doing.
- [170:11]
Biz Nasty
That's. Do you want Snoop Dogg on the podcast? Yes or no? Before the Olympics in Which he's calling with NBC. Okay? Look at this guy. He's got the album. And. And.
- [170:21]
Donnie Does
And.
- [170:21]
Biz Nasty
And Kev's going to be sending all the snoop on a stoops, so you won't be doing that. What do you normally do with the kids around Christmas time?
- [170:30]
Keith Yandle
I think.
- [170:32]
Biz Nasty
You have one.
- [170:33]
Keith Yandle
I have a snoop on the stoop. Yeah.
- [170:35]
Biz Nasty
Well, you're gonna get the man in the flesh. If the Leafs can pull off a certain amount of victories. And we're dropping that shirt now. The death row. This is. This is Kev's idea to get the ball rolling and spark the guys. There it is. Okay, so even if you're not sure, dude. Hey, and you know what?
- [170:51]
Andrew Ladd
If.
- [170:52]
Biz Nasty
If you don't want to buy the shirt and you hate the trauma, I don't a give. Don't buy the shirt. But for all you hardcore Leaf fans who are trying to spark things up.
- [171:01]
Keith Yandle
Oh.
- [171:01]
Biz Nasty
Oh, yeah. You see what I did there? We're gonna. We're gonna give the Toronto Maple Leafs the spark that they need right now. And let. Let's count the. Let's count the games before Olympic break, boys. And let's set the standard.
- [171:16]
Keith Yandle
I was ready to give you a hard time because last podcast, you said, I will not speak about the Leafs until they get three. I'm not in a row. But you dangling that carrot, I am all in on the Leafs.
- [171:27]
Ryan Whitney
I just want to know. I like your optimism. You're an internal optimist, but they're in last place in Eastern Conference. Like, at what point? If they're one of the Last 2 worst three teams in Eastern Conference, like, is it game 50? You'll be like, all right, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna keep.
- [171:46]
Biz Nasty
Before I answer that, if. If. If the boys in the background, gee, you can count the amount of games they have till the Olympic break. Break.
- [171:54]
Andrew Ladd
All right?
- [171:55]
Biz Nasty
Count the amount of games. And we got to figure out what the standard is in that locker room to get Snoop Dogg on this podcast. But to answer your question, I'm not bringing my mind there. Winners don't bring their mind to, like, the what ifs. Okay? That's not gonna happen. I. I have to. I have to be the ambassador of the Toronto Maple Leafs right now. I have to think of a solution. I can't be part of the problem. So we're gonna nail this interview down after the Leafs go on a run, because Snoop Dogg sparked the boys. Everybo have their awesome teacher. Wow. Dangling the carrot has made Keith Yandel rock. Who's on the jersey. Matthews. Austin Matthews. Well, they're gonna need him healthy. That's what they're definitely gonna need.
- [172:44]
Ryan Whitney
They have 35 games till Olympic break.
- [172:47]
Keith Yandle
Wow, that's a lot.
- [172:49]
Biz Nasty
What's. What's the. How many they gotta win to get Snoop Dogg on the podcast?
- [172:53]
Ryan Whitney
They. They have to win three. Well, yeah, I mean, let's. To get Snoop on.
- [172:57]
Biz Nasty
None. I mean, what's the chat saying? Out of 35 games, if we're doing.
- [173:03]
Keith Yandle
Like, it should be 20.
- [173:05]
Ryan Whitney
I was gonna say, like 20 and 15 isn't exactly like unbelievable, but what is it?
- [173:10]
Biz Nasty
23.
- [173:12]
Ryan Whitney
So are we pushing like. But we want them on, so it's not really fair. I think if you're re. 25 games. 25 and 10.
- [173:21]
Biz Nasty
I think let's say 22 wins. Is that a fair number?
- [173:24]
Ryan Whitney
Yes. In the last games against the Oilers before Olympic break. Oh, imagine if they got 21.
- [173:29]
Biz Nasty
I would love that. I would. I would go to the game. So let's set the marker. Toronto Maple Leafs locker room. I don't care how you get it done, just get it done. 22 wins between now and Olympic break. And I'm going to be smoking a big fat blunt with Snoop Dogg himself on this pod. And we're going to be giving you boys the biggest double wr because all these counted you out. If you're not gonna do it for yourself, do it for the guy next to you. And do it. Do it for the fans in the crowd and do it for their. Their play by play. Guy Bowen. It's his last year doing this. He's done it for about 40 years. He's never. 3,000 games over 3,000 games. Joe Bowen. Do it for him.
- [174:14]
Ryan Whitney
Do it for. I want to get him on.
- [174:15]
Biz Nasty
Do it for the Maple Leaf on the crest. And now for the bong rip that I'm gonna do with Snoop Dogg himself before the goddamn Olympics when the other Maple Leaf brings home a medal.
- [174:26]
Donnie Does
Come on.
- [174:28]
Keith Yandle
He's foaming.
- [174:29]
Ryan Whitney
I know. The problem with rabies.
- [174:31]
Biz Nasty
I'm phobia at the mouth.
- [174:33]
Keith Yandle
Yes.
- [174:33]
Ryan Whitney
And I love the guy.
- [174:35]
Biz Nasty
Do it for the dog.
- [174:37]
Ryan Whitney
I like the guy. The team is so bad. Like if they win five games before the Olympic break, I'd be surprised.
- [174:43]
Keith Yandle
Hey, Guy, it's Snoop. We gotta.
- [174:46]
Ryan Whitney
But I know, but I'm a realist, man. And it's Thanksgiving week, so go, leave, go, go, leave slow with the speed of the league. All right, Black Friday sale this week. Check out the barstool store. 20 off for black Friday. We got great merch. These hats are sick. Awesome. Hoodie biz has on. And then we got Chiclets. You from Maine at noon tomorrow. We got peeking at 8pm and this is the last week to buy the breast cancer merch. Helping out women get wigs. 40 under 40. Thank you so much. What a show. Great time. Donnie Does. Mason West, Keith Shout out you. Andrew Ladd. What a career. Tate McCray and Jack Hughes. There's just so many storylines. And we will see you Thanksgiving morning. Boom.
- [175:30]
Keith Yandle
Pe.
- [175:41]
Mason West
Won't happen again.
- [175:44]
Biz Nasty
Won't happen.
- [175:45]
Ryan Whitney
Won't happen. Won't happen again.