Spittin' Chiclets Episode 615: Featuring David Andrews

Summary

Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 615: Featuring David Andrews

Release Date: January 27, 2026
Hosts: Ryan Whitney, Paul "Biz" Bissonnette, Rear Admiral (RA), Keith Yandle, Mike Grinnell
Special Guest: David Andrews, former New England Patriots Center

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Episode Overview

This episode of Spittin’ Chiclets blends the usual irreverent hockey banter with a deep dive into football, thanks to special guest David Andrews — two-time Super Bowl–winning center for the New England Patriots. The crew revisits the Patriots’ Super Bowl run, analyzes league dynasties, discusses what it takes to survive under Bill Belichick, and veers into classic Chiclets territory with locker-room stories, cross-sport culture, and a heavy dose of friendly abuse. The latter half of the episode returns to hockey with robust talk on NHL playoff races, the Toronto Maple Leafs drama, and more, capped with the “RA’s World” segment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Patriots’ Super Bowl Run & Football Culture

• Whitney kicks things off celebrating the Patriots’ unlikely surge back to the Super Bowl, brags about weathering haters, and relishes in making rival fans miserable. (03:40)

  • Notable Quote:
    “Everyone can suck it…enjoy the Patriots back in the mix when all your loser teams can't get anything accomplished. Rebuild after rebuild. We drafted one qb, he didn't work and we got another one. Now we're back in the big game.” —Whitney (03:40)

• Yandle declares love for the dynasty effect and embraces being the villain:

  • “I love the Belichick-Brady era. So I am so happy for you guys. And right back on top of the AFC.” (08:00)

A. Patriots’ Culture Under Belichick

• David Andrews on surviving “The Patriot Way”:

  • “I took a lot of pride playing in New England because a lot of people didn’t want to play there...to me, like that’s the point, right? Like it’s supposed to be like that.” (09:04)

• Breakdown of the relentless culture: Low Lights film review sessions, internal accountability, learning regional history, and the ethos of not letting teammates down.

  “It wasn’t about not wanting to let Bill down. It was about not wanting to let my guys down.” —David Andrews (12:33)

• Yandle and Andrews reflect on how locker room leadership and player-driven standards made the difference, beyond just coaching (13:40–14:02).

B. Adjusting to Modern Players

• Shift in college football and pro sports culture; NIL, transfer portal, and how younger players’ motivations differ. Andrews credits Mike Vrabel's “more relatable style.”
  • "You can have all these different personalities, but you got to have one mentality." —Andrews (15:44)

C. Game Management and Super Bowl Mentality

• Deep dives into in-game decision making, the impact of weather, and the playoff run's defensive lift.
• Coaching decisions, fourth-down trend, and the sometimes-overuse of analytics:
  • “Sometimes I think we get these analytics and these percentages wrapped in people’s heads and they start playing to that versus feeling what the game is.” —Andrews (24:21)

2. Inside the Patriots & Super Bowl Stories

A. Game Planning, Offensive Adjustments

• Andrews explains the Patriots' adaptability: could win in shootouts, low-scoring slugfests, or with whichever unit was clicking (26:00–29:00).
  • “We were a chameleon...great teams find a way to win, and they don’t care who gets the credit.” (28:37)

B. Center-Quarterback Dynamics

• Center's mental workload — flashcards, whiteboards, self-study to keep up with Brady.
  • Memorable Story:
    “I made flashcards. All the stuff teachers tell you to do to learn how to study and then you don’t do in school, that’s what I did coming in.” (32:38)

C. Locker Room Personalities & Mythical Stories

• Sweaty Ass Anecdote: Tom Brady’s obsession with dry footballs, requiring Andrews to use baby powder and towels.
  • “That’s what made Tom so special, he just found these little edges.” —Andrews (37:06–42:08)
• Gronk, Julian Edelman, and Edelman’s practice antics.
  • “Bill would give us two days off, the O-line was like ‘how quick can we get to Boston and be out at the bars?’” (42:30)
• Practice fights as mood shifters, but how football culture differs from hockey (44:24–46:00).

D. Super Bowl Memories & Mindset

• Atlanta Comeback: No miracle speeches—just focus, adjustments, and sticking to the standard (59:59–63:00).

• Cherishing the team-only moments during Super Bowl week, before families arrive (55:29–56:33).

  “You never know when it’s going to be over…so you damn sure better take advantage of it.” —Andrews (57:04)

3. Current NFL Analysis & Sam Darnold Discussion

• The Patriots' current Super Bowl opponent: Seattle Seahawks and the Sam Darnold comeback arc.
  • “Minnesota's got to be kicking themselves for letting this guy walk out of the building.” —Andrews (48:50)
• Insider discussion on how today’s NFL teams manage new and old player personalities, learning from Vrabel and Belichick.

E. Super Bowl Prediction

• David Andrews (at 80:58):
  “Offensively, they just haven’t looked great in three weeks, and that makes me very, very nervous...I’ll go Pats. 30–24.”
  • (81:54) Whitney: “Those jerseys be getting chucked in the trash if you picked Seattle.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Yandle on the Patriot’s Winning Culture:
  “When you got a good o-line and guys that click with each other and play together for a long time, it doesn’t matter because … when shit hits the fan, you know how everyone’s going to react.” (36:33)

• Andrews on Belichick & Brady:
  “Tom, when he went to Tampa, he took everything he learned from Bill and just instilled it into Tampa...” (25:41)

• Andrews on details:
  “If this guy at the top of his game is this detail-oriented, then who am I?” (41:42)

• On football-fights vs. hockey-fights:
  “Football fights are dumb. You have helmets. You're just going to hurt yourself.” —Andrews (45:19)

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Additional Segments

Hockey & Culture Round-Up (86:23–128:20)

• Penn State Whiteout: The crew previews an on-location episode and a packed NCAA weekend.
• NHL Hot Topics:
  • Detroit Red Wings’ rise and whether Steve Yzerman should make a big move now or wait (113:48+)
  • Kadri, Trocheck, and potential blockbuster center moves.
  • The future of Connor McDavid (118:05); speculation on whether Detroit is angling to lure him.
  • Oilers: McDavid historic point pace, Bouchard’s rise, Leafs soap opera (Nylander’s antics, Marner’s departure, William Nylander’s press-box finger), more.

“RA’s World” (155:50–end)

• RA gives the Instagram vs Twitter update:
  “Instagram has a lot of good stuff…there’s wholesome stuff, way more positive.”
• Super Bowl picks:
  All picking the Patriots, but with nerves about the offense.
• Oddball & heartfelt territory:
  • Space Talk: NASA’s moon trip, astronaut colonel friend, Chiclets flag on the ISS (176:12)
  • Serious discussion: On recent U.S. events and public policy (182:37–186:18)
  • Tributes: Shout-outs to the Darlene family (tragedy), Michigan State’s Dan Sturgis

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Patriots/Football Deep Dive with David Andrews: 08:29–82:44
• Sweaty Ass / Tom Brady Towel Talk: 36:53–42:08
• Seattle/Sam Darnold Talk: 47:43–53:09
• Super Bowl Week Stories & Locker Room Culture: 53:21–65:08
• Transition to Hockey Segments: 85:36
• Detroit Red Wings, Trade Speculation, and Future Moves: 112:48–128:20
• NHL Playoff Races, Player Drama, and League Rundown: 128:21–154:00
• RA’s World (social media ban, moon landing, and more): 155:50–end

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Final Thoughts

This episode is packed with crossover sports knowledge, behind-the-scenes storytelling, and the banter that defines the Chiclets universe. David Andrews brings a rare look inside what life was really like in the heart of the dynasty-era Patriots, revealing the grueling standard, the (occasionally hilarious) drive for any edge, and how legacy is built and shared. The hockey talk is its usual cocktail of serious analysis and absurdities—a perfect blend for listeners who like their sports unfiltered.

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Listen if you love:

• Superb cross-sport insights about football and hockey cultures
• Outlandish locker room tales (ass towels, anyone?)
• Deep discussion on historic league cultures and player mentality
• Raw, unverifiable rumors about the next mega NHL trades
• The offbeat, heartfelt, and occasionally deranged world of RA

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Listen to this episode wherever you get your podcasts — prime territory for Patriots, hockey lifers, and fans of ridiculous stories alike.

Transcript

[Ra]

Hey, Spit and Chiclets listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Biz]

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[Whitney]

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[David Andrews]

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[Whitney]

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[Yandel]

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[Whitney]

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[Ra]

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[David Andrews]

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[Ra]

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[David Andrews]

Let's get them over with.

[Ra]

Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is barstool sports.

[Yandel]

I brought it toward the coyotes and I asked them if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chickens podcast full time.

[Whitney]

Ryan Whitney. Got a pink Whitney out there now.

[David Andrews]

Sandbagger.

[Ra]

Get that on camera.

[Whitney]

Heath Yandel, the song man is a full time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris Beach.

[Biz]

Whoa. We're buzzing right now.

[Whitney]

What is up everyone? Welcome back to spitting chicklets episode 615. We are climbing up towards biz and I finally getting a thousand episodes or something because we never sniffed a thousand games even combined. That's our guy, Yance. But thank you so much for everyone who's joining in again. And thank you so much to everyone who drinks Pink Whitney. Right now it's snowing again outside my office window. We got about, I think it was 20 inches. We got just a complete blizzard snowed in, which could be fun. We had the fire going inside and what a day for a blizzard. Incredible football. But Pink Whitney was. Was drank. It was drunk. It will be drank again because I think another blizzard's coming next weekend. So reminiscent of 2015 Boston Times when it snowed a foot and a half every five days. Don't necessarily love that, but I do love Pink Whitney and I love anyone else out there who drinks Pink Whitney. And I love the big bottles and the little bottles and the mickeys and the shots and any way you want to drink it. I appreciate it. We appreciate it. And we love New Amsterdam's Pink Whitney Varka. Pinkies up. You'll see more of that Later, Keith. Biz. What's going on, Keith? We're going back to another Super Bowl. Biz. You got to watch our team win just one of the most disgusting games I've ever seen in my life. Wins a win. A win is a win. And the hatred from these people towards the Patriots. And you stink. You suck. You're going to get murdered in the Super Bowl. We've heard it all before. We've heard it all before. And the hatred. I think Hank from Pardon My Take tweeted out. It's an image from South Park. I don't know who it is. One of the characters is just literally licking and drinking somebody's tears coming down their cheeks. Because that's how I feel. And Biz, when you root for a team like this, people are calling me a Bandwagon Patriots fan. Get the fuck out of here. Bandwagon Patriots fan. I ran out into Kenmore Square after the first super bowl my freshman year at bu, the night before my first ever bean pot game and partied and celebrated and I ended up on the COVID of the BU Daily Free Press. So sandbag. And I've been rooting for this team for 25 years. So everyone can suck it. Everyone can just enjoy the Patriots back in the mix when all your loser teams can't get anything accomplished. Rebuild after rebuild. We drafted one qb, he didn't work and we got another one. Now we're back in the big game.

[David Andrews]

So suck it.

[Biz]

I do feel like a lot of Canadians, which obviously we have a lot of Canadians listening. I feel like a lot of Canadians like the Patriots, Rapiz, especially the East Coast.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Yandel]

I mean, outside of obviously Bill's fans and then west coast, their big Seahawks supporters. I mean, I, I say it in the interview that we got today with David Andrews. Like, I. I love the villain and the. The dynasty and the fact that it infuriates so many other fan bases because I, I like. Like, even when the Chiefs were winning, I didn't mind that either. Like, I was a big Mahomes fan. I was a big Kelsey fan. And actually, who's their coach that looks like a walrus?

[Whitney]

Andy.

[Biz]

Andy.

[Yandel]

Andy Reid. I love him too. And I'm happy for the Patriots, man. I. I'm happy how miserable it makes other people too. So I hope you guys bring home your seventh. Although I gotta be careful because Jeff Jacobson and all my Vancouver, they're huge Seahawks supporters. And actually thinking about it even more now, I kind of feel bad the way they lost the Butler interception one. So I Wouldn't. I would be okay if it ended up one and one, right? You guys want one each? But we, we, we'll, we'll keep it neutral. Congratulations to you boys. I know G's like the, one of the biggest jock sniffers. He's got this old jersey that he always wears. That's his good luck charm. But let's see if it works out. This one.

[Whitney]

Yeah. And the game between Seattle and la, I mean, yeah, that looked like a different league. Both QBs playing incredible. And the Sam Darnold story. We get into it, it's, it's hard to hate this guy. This guy has been kicked to the curb numerous times by different teams, different organizations. And I mean, he's playing incredible. That team looks amazing. But there's been many Super Bowls where people counted us out. And it all started with one when we were 14 point underdogs. Right now, I think it's four and a half points. The Seattle Seahawks are favored by. So yeah, we underdogs. Yes, no doubt. But Sam Donald originally saw Ghosts against the Patriots. That's where it all began when he was on the jets. And who knows, you could see that again. But I, I, I couldn't believe the guy was a, the guy was a machine. And that crowd in Seattle, I know Jeff was at the game. That seems pretty special to see a football game, at least a big one, like the NFC title game, because it seemed awesome. But after you win and then you sit back, you just get to watch who you get to play. It's like that's the best time to watch a championship game when you've already won the other one. Because biz, I'm sitting there, I get the fire, I got some pink Whitney. I'm just like, oh, who do we got? I don't really care. We'll beat either one of them. But it was a hell of a game to get to enjoy. And then shoveling every 25 minutes.

[Yandel]

I would say outside of maybe two games, these playoffs for, in the NFL, every game's been entertaining. Like even the one in the Blizzard, although it was low scoring. And then to lead into that shootout from last night. I don't even know how to say the guy's name. But that one receiver who had a.

[Biz]

Big night, yeah, he's JSN or what's it, Jackson Smith.

[Whitney]

And I don't know how to say the third name.

[Biz]

Jsn. They call him.

[Whitney]

Okay, jsn.

[Yandel]

It's kind of like UPL from, from the Buffalo Sabres. You just kind of keep it and simplify it.

[Biz]

Glass.

[Yandel]

I thought that Tom broke it down perfectly. His shoulders didn't move when he was running. They didn't go up, didn't go down. He just stayed like he was, like. It looked like he was a Tesla out there, you know, like the way that you, you just all of a sudden boom, out of the gate and. Pretty remarkable player and a great job for the Seahawks to reload. I don't know a ton about football, boys, but like I, I paid attention mostly during these playoffs and I've been blown away. So I just hope for a great, high scoring super bowl and we can all put this season to rest.

[Whitney]

Yep, that'll be it. And we do a lot of football talk with David Anders about current, you know, Patriots Seahawks matchup, about the games and then about his kind of career where he won two Super Bowls. Good friend of Yan's. Great guy. Awesome interview with that. I think it's the perfect time to throw it over to David Andrews, legendary Super bowl champion and great guy. Former NFL New England patriot David Andrews. Very special guest right now. A little different than the usual hockey guest. We have a former 10 year NFL player, two time Super bowl championship. Name to the all 2010 New England Patriots team, 2010's center, David Andrews. What's going on, bud?

[David Andrews]

What's up guys? How we doing?

[Whitney]

We're doing great. Keith and I at least.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[David Andrews]

Biz, who do you cheer for?

[Yandel]

Hardcore NFL fan. But I, I rooted for Groom Green Bay. I still do more from a distance now. I was a big Favre guy and then Aaron Rodgers, so I was very fortunate with quarterbacks and. Yeah. But I, I, you know what though? It, I love that it pisses so many people off about the New England dynasty. Like I love the Belichick Brady area era. So I am so happy for you guys. And right back on top of the afc.

[David Andrews]

I, I took a lot of pride playing in New England because a lot of people didn't want to play there. They'd be like, oh, I can't come.

[Ra]

Do that with Bill.

[David Andrews]

Like I can't. And it was a grind. Like it was hard and it was tough, but to me, like that's the point, right? Like it's supposed to be like that. And, and I took a lot of pride knowing that maybe someone was better than me, but they couldn't last in this system. You know, they couldn't, they couldn't thrive. And, and now I see why people really hate New England because we were the worst fans for about four years and just acting like, our world was coming down and now we're back in the Super Bowl. So I understand why everyone hates us, and I like the hate.

[Yandel]

I'm glad you brought that up first. Like, what is it about, like, surviving that environment? And like, what is it that Billich did that was so much different than other organizations? When you would come in every day, like, would he be on you non stop? Like, was it just the amount of time you would spend at the field? Like, what was it in particular?

[David Andrews]

It was a little bit of everything, man. And you guys had Tom on, you know, whatever that was a couple weeks ago, and you got to see some of that. I mean, look, I think. And I, I don't know how it is in hockey, right, But I always felt like the coach sets the tone, right? He's got to set the standard. But then it's the player's job to uphold that standard. And, and it's also a little different. You know, we have 53 guys, plus 10 practice squad guys, so you're talking about 60ish guys. So you got to have a lot of leadership in that big of a group, you know, and it can't just be, all right, Bill and Tom are on the same page, and then everyone else, go do your own thing. So I think I look at these teams and, and learning a lot. I, of history of New England, right when I got there, they beat you over the head with the history. One of the six states in the New England area. That was like, fun facts we had to learn, you know, and.

[Whitney]

Oh, that's a lot for you, too.

[Yandel]

Let me see if I could do that.

[David Andrews]

Let's see if you can do it. Maine. Yeah.

[Yandel]

New Hampshire.

[David Andrews]

Yeah.

[Yandel]

Massachusetts.

[Whitney]

What?

[David Andrews]

Yeah. Okay, we'll move on.

[Biz]

That's how he says it.

[David Andrews]

We'll move on. Just. Two little ones there, bud.

[Whitney]

Two little ones underneath us.

[Biz]

I don't, I don't make, I don't think that's helping them.

[Yandel]

I, I, I, I don't want to keep us stalled here. What are the other two? Rhode Island.

[Whitney]

Give you a hint.

[David Andrews]

Rhode Island. And then there's one next to a really big place.

[Whitney]

I'm gonna say this will be Rhode Island. Jim. Jim Calhoun.

[Yandel]

You guys give me the sext.

[David Andrews]

Connecticut.

[Yandel]

Oh. What?

[Whitney]

Him saying Long island after Rhode Island's funny. As though I almost missed that one.

[Yandel]

I'm an idiot. But that, but I got five of the six for a Canadian, so that's pretty good. Why was he.

[David Andrews]

So we just, we had to learn about New England. We had to learn about the area we were in, we had to learn about the guys that were there before us, right? Like the Bruskies, Matt Lights, Brables, all these guys. And for me, as an alignment coming in, learning about, you know, Matt Light, Dan Copen, Logan Mankins, all these guys that had this great O line culture. When I got there, it was like, all right, whatever I got to do to try to keep that going, that's what I wanted to do. And. And then you walk in the meeting and what could you say about. Even when I got there, he had another hall of Fame career. Tom Brady did when I got there. But before that he was a Hall of Famer. What are you going to say to him? But it wasn't like he messed up. Bill was on him. Julian messed up. Bill was on him. We used to have these things called low lights in practice, and it was like coming in after practice or the next morning, you did not want that film to come on and those lights to go down and be on low lights, you know, And I think, I think a lot of people get it misinterpreted about, like, we didn't want to let Bill down. It wasn't about that. I didn't want to let my guys down. And. And then by being on that film, that means I let my guys down by doing something stupid. You know, that's what low lights were. It wasn't, oh, you got beat. Everyone's getting beat, right? It's the NHL, NFL. Like you're gonna get beat, but you go out and you do a stupid turnover or penalty or whatever it is and cost your team. That's going up on the low lights. So it was just the culture that was set a long before I got there that I wanted to try to keep going, which we somehow lost, you know, toward the end of my career. And then Rabel's come in and totally redesign this culture. I don't know what it is, but it is. I know it's nothing like what it was when I was there.

[Yandel]

He seems like he's the man like Yan's you pointed out last pod. Like he's in the hallway making sure he shakes or high fives every single guy who walks in the locker room. So I'm sure that. I'm sure there's still that, like that accountability and quote unquote shaming on video to keep guys accountable. But it seems a little bit more fun loving and you're getting that positive reinforcement from him.

[David Andrews]

Well, I think you guys probably looked at the end of your career like Things were changing, right? The people were different, motivations were different. With guys, you know, it just. It's a different world. And now that's only getting worse. Coming from college, with the transfer portal these guys are making, I mean, I don't know what it was like playing college hockey. And I know Yan's didn't go to college, but I, like, if I got a hundred bucks, that meant I could drink for like two weeks straight, you know, like, it was unbelievable. And so, you know, I. Then I came in and they write me a little check and I'm like, I'm rich. I'm living forever. And, you know, I think that's changed guys, when guys come in and. And I think Mike's done a great job of connecting these younger players and older players and kind of meshing that to what's important. I don't know if you saw something. There was a. He was doing a press conference and. And you have a lot of national media on these big games, right? People coming out of the woodworks in the press conferences. Someone asked him like, hey, are you going to try to keep your players off their phones for distractions? And he, like, chuckled. He was like, yeah, all right, that's a good idea. Tell him not to look, you know, like, he gets it. Like, it is what it is. Like, this is what the world we live in. He's not trying to change these guys. And. And I think too, for the biggest thing. And I thought Bill did a good job of this at times too. You get these group of guys, right? You can't make everyone be the same, think the same, have the same motivations, but you can have all these different personalities, but you got to have one mentality. And I think they've done that this year, which has been so impressive to do in. In five months. Warriors.

[Yandel]

Is that what the mentality is?

[David Andrews]

That was kind of cool.

[Whitney]

It was Mac Hollins and he walked in and he's got no shoes on, and it was big to get him back. And he's banging these bottles together. So I had no clue. Me and my buddies were like, I don't know what that is. Then my dad sent me the clip of the movie Warriors. Have you seen that movie biz?

[David Andrews]

No, I haven't seen. That's what I heard. I saw it all over social media.

[Whitney]

Yeah, he did it. Bad boy o come out and play.

[Biz]

It's that. It's a spin off of that from the warriors come out and play movie.

[Whitney]

Okay. But that was like, very. Yeah, very good interest. And he Made that huge catch in that game. And I want to ask you about that game.

[David Andrews]

Messy now.

[Whitney]

Yeah, just a dog fight. And. And our buddy Merles on our show is. Is a huge Bills fan, so he's just bitter and miserable. He's a loser. He's never won a.

[David Andrews]

Well, they've always been losers, and they're always going to.

[Whitney]

I mean, they're just losers. They're losers and they're just complete. Although the Sabres are buzzing that we'll get into them, but Merles is just furious. Watch the game. This is disgusting. Horrible football, that game. When it's like that, I assume no matter what team was playing, you can't move the ball, right? Like, what was the wind like?

[David Andrews]

No. Yeah. That game's tough. And that place, you know, I. Sure. You guys have favorite stadiums you play in, right? Like, there's ones you guys go into and you're like, this is awesome.

[Whitney]

Yep.

[David Andrews]

And that place is great. Even I. I played one AFC championship there, and then I think three or four times in the regular season. And it's just always been one of my favorite places. It's a great atmosphere. You know, the Bills are up there for me. Kansas city, that. That 2018 AFC championship game on the road, that's by far my favorite game and probably one of my favorite places I've ever played. But Denver's always been awesome. And look, we've had. We've had, like. I think it's 0 and 4 in the AFC championships or playoffs out there in the history of our. Our team. So it kind of broke a little bit of a curse this week, which was awesome. But, yeah, it was a lot, dude, first half, beautiful. I mean, it was cold, but it's. I also. I also think the Denver cold and Massachusetts or like, other colds are very different. So what really wasn't bad. And then, I mean, the middle of the third quarter is not bad. And then all of a sudden it's just like, white. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't. I think, for this Patriots team, I guess the thing to me that's been so good to see, but also a little concerning, is most of the year, what's. Everyone talked about, Drake May. Right. That's been the whole storyline, and he's been unbelievable. He's put up MVP numbers. You know, we'll see what happens with that over the next week. But it's been unreal. That's been the story. And it's kind of like the defense has been on the back burner. And I do sports radio in Boston and, and they were like, oh, the defense can't win us games. And I, I didn't have a lot of evidence to be like, no, I think they can. You know, they were dealing with injuries, different things like that toward the middle of the end of the year. And, and he's like, our, our offense has to win us games. And I was trying to be like, I think this defense is better than this. But I just didn't have anything to back it up other than to do the whole oh, they got injury copout thing, you know. But then you see them get healthy these playoffs and your defense for three straight games has gone out there against, you know, the top five defense, the number one defense and Broncos were again top five and out dueled these defenses. I mean they played unreal. So to me that's the, I guess the biggest positive in these playoffs, the biggest negative has been the offense. And you play two games at home, you turn the ball over a lot. Drake May made the plays when he needed to, especially that Texans game. You know, some of those throws throughout that game were huge. But this game, you know, I guess the good thing is they didn't turn the ball over. That to me was going to be the biggest thing. If you turn the ball over against Denver, especially in a game like this with this weather, that's huge because you see what happens. The only touchdown the Patriots scored, what it came off of, Drake May run.

[Yandel]

In the end zone that I called turning him off.

[David Andrews]

Turnover came off the turnover. And, and you know, we got the ball at the 15 yard line. But you are right, that is how we scored. But you know that that's the only real points the Patriots got. They never put together a drive. You know, they missed a field goal. It, that's what I thought. If the Patriots were going to lose, that's how it was going to be. But the weather is also just, it's a huge factor and you could see that in both offenses. I mean, I just got done watching the film and I'm sitting there trying to watch it and it's just kind of like banging your head against the wall, you know. But those games are awesome. I, I, to me, winning on the road some days is better than winning at home.

[Whitney]

My question about that game. So the Broncos had a chance to go up 10, nothing. They go for it on fourth and one or whatever, fourth and goal, whatever it was, they get stuffed. It turns out if they just taken the points, right, it's 10, 10 if the game works out the same way. Did they Know the blizzard was coming in. Like was, were people aware? Because if, if they knew they're saying, why didn't Peyton just take the points?

[Yandel]

Yeah. Who's in charge of the weather?

[David Andrews]

We were very, you were usually very endialed with the weather. Like you knew what was coming. Right? Like, and you were, you play, when you play outside, you have to be aware. Cold, rain, heat, snow, wind, and it's always changing. We've, you know, we played the win game in 21 in Buffalo and we prepared like we were going to go throw the football. Like I remember doing the walkthrough that night and I'm like, have we looked outside yet? Like have we seen this? But you got to prepare like you got to prepare like you're going to do it. And then during the game, that's when or at the start of the game, you know, we ended up having meetings in the locker room. So I don't, I wasn't keeping up. I was more concerned about what was going on back home, you know, with my, my babysitter and baby there, like who's taking care of everything. We had the heat go out. So like Gil was getting, you know, texts come in but you know, I wasn't paying attention to it. So I had no idea it was coming. I assumed they did. So in saying that I looked at that, I wrote that down in my notes. Like to me that was one of the most mind blowing decisions from the coaching position at that point. To go up 10 0, right. And look, everything's hindsight, 2020 obviously, but you go up 10 0, you've got a great defense, you got home field advantage, you've got a backup quarterback who was playing. He out dueled Drake May. Other than the turnover, he outdoed Drake May in that game. Drake did not play great. He only had 80 something yards passing and Jared had 130 something yards and a touchdown throw. But. And Denver was really moving the ball. I was, when I was watching this morning I was like, man, they were stringing drives together and they, you know, they missed a field goal, got a field goal block and then the fourth down where he didn't get points. So field goal block, field goal miss and no points right there. That's 10 to you know, 13 points that you cost yourselves. And so that coaching decision, and that's one thing I do love about football is I don't know, you know, and you guys will know more about this and hockey coaching but like I don't know if coaches have such an impact on Sports as they do in the NFL.

[Yandel]

No way.

[Whitney]

Nothing comes close.

[David Andrews]

No, no, you know, I mean, and I, me and Yan's obviously became close from working out together and just like hearing how you guys prepared for things versus what we did is so different. You know, like we were talking about our practice schedules and I'm like, yeah, you know, I get in at 6:00am and leave at 7:00 clock that night and you know, he was just like, couldn't wrap his head around. And then he'd be like, well we'd be in there at like nine and leave at noon and I'd be like, like we're just going to practice at noon and then we're coming in to do me. You know, it's just, but that's, you know, you guys are going out there and playing so much versus we're putting all this time in for one three hour thing. And, and in football there's so much, there's so much strategy and, and you're setting things up whether both sides of the ball and looks on special teams where it's, you know, hey, we might run this zone coverage and make it all look the same because in the third quarter, 40 plays later, we want to show that zone coverage and switch to man and mess them up or whatever that situation is. Same with offense. So that to me the coaching decisions in football are so wild and there's become this big movement on going forward on fourth down.

[Yandel]

Yeah, I've been reading a lot online about this and I feel like there's a bit of a revolt now and it's kind of ruining the game.

[David Andrews]

I, yeah, I, I go back and forth on it because sometimes I think it's really good and, and Bill wasn't that big on going for it on fourth down. We, I, there's not a lot of like, I really remember, you know, very rarely different things like that. But you know, I feel like a few years ago with Dan Campbell, he was kind of like the first, like we're going for it and then, you know, I mean the Patriots have gone for it more I feel like this year than I did in my whole career and it's paid off a lot. But sometimes I think we get these analytics and these percentages go get wrapped in people's heads and they start playing to that. Versus sometimes you got to feel what the game is because every situation is different, you know, and yeah, I, I didn't think that was the best coaching decision personally in my, my view.

[Biz]

Da, you talked about, you know, the Patriots most of the season being an offensive threat and Drake may doing his thing and then the last few games winning by defense. Like when you talk about the good teams in hockey, they can play in any type of game, whether it's, you know, scrums at the net. Like you think of Florida's, Tampa's, the Colorado's, Vegas is like they want to play heavy. They can play heavy if they want to play a defensive game. Are the Patriots like going into the Super Bowl? Because you've seen what their defensive done the last, you know, few games. Is it something that you're like, whatever type of game this is going to be, you know, you feel comfortable in what they can do?

[David Andrews]

Well, I think this, look, Mike's very big on. He never worked with Bill Belich as a coach. Brable didn't obviously. Right. But he played with him or played under him for whatever it was 10 years. I, you know, eight years, I forget. And had a lot of success. And you don't, you don't, you know, there's a lot of stuff, you know, people are talking about Bill and that, that is what it is. But you don't, to me, you can't look at Bill's 20 something years and say what's happened the last four years, five years has ruined those. No, you still, we still did all that stuff. And, and you know, Tom, like the whole Bill and Tom versus Tom thing, I look, it makes great talk radio and TV and all of that, but Tom, to me, when he went to Tampa, he took everything he learned from Bill and just instilled it into Tampa with a great roster that was missing one piece, the quarterback. And so when I look at Vrabel and some things that this team does and Vrabel believes in, I see the obvious Bill Belichick influence, right. And I think these Patriot teams, especially the ones I played on, we were a chameleon, right? You need us to go throw it 45 times. Great. Tom will do that. You need us to run it, you know, in 18. That was our big identity, was running the football. We were built for it. We had Gronk, Dwayne Allen, two huge tight ends. James Devlin at fullback, who was just a moose that we had great running backs, a really good offensive line. So we went into games like, all right, we're going to line up and play in two tight ends and a fullback. Which that's when the league I felt like started shifting to more of these fast skill, you know, the Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City with all these skilled guys was Coming on the scene, it was like, well, we're going to throw one receiver out there who's, you know, white Julian Edelman and you know, we're just going to bully ball you and, and then. But what we did, we could manufacture things so well. And like in the super bowl versus the Rams, that's what we were doing. We were lining up, letting them dictate what for. You know, if you guys are putting out base defense, which is harder to run against, easier to throw against, all right, we're going to spread the ball out. And now we get Julian lined up against a linebacker. Good luck. Linebacker can't cover Julian. So we were just able to do all these different things. Look different. Hey, you know, and we go to Kansas City the week before in 18, it was a shootout, right? Overtime, outduel Patrick Mahomes and that high scoring offense. And then we go play the rams and it's 13 to 3, you know, like we could do it however we wanted to do it. We scored one touchdown. Defense played their ass off. So that to me is always a great sign. I think when you're a one trick pony and you're living off, hey, we just got to score 45 points. That's, that's great. It's fun to see. I enjoy watching it. Who doesn't, right? We all love seeing scores on anything. But, you know, being able to win games in different ways, that's the only thing that matters. You got to find a way to win, you know, and I think that's what great teams do. They don't, they don't care who gets the credit. If it's Drake may throwing for 400 yards, great. If it's him throwing for 86 and win a messy snow game, great, we'll move on. You know, and I think there, there's guys, like, I look at Stefan Diggs, right? Like he's had this reputation. I'm sure there's guys like that in hockey, right, where they get some type of reputation for whatever reason and then they come somewhere else and just, you know, look, he's older, he's at the back end of his career. He gets put in an opportunity and I think he's done a great job for this team. And he's had obviously his big, you know, first thousand yard receiver in a long time since the Patriots. But then there's games where it's like he's not even out there. Like he had a few catches yesterday, but that doesn't matter. I saw him one drive yesterday, they were coming off the field, Pats were stalled again, struggling in the first half. He's getting going up, the guys picking up their chins. You know, it's stuff like that you need as a veteran. And I think he's done a great job for this team, you know, and they've kind of put all that other bullshit and all that personal bullshit aside and said, no, we're going to come together, wear this helmet and jersey and find ways to win. And that to me, that's what a football team, that's what teams are, you know, that's what it's about. That's why I think we all get into this eventually.

[Yandel]

Um, when I was just going to hop in because you mentioned like, it's not even close as far as like coaches and how much impact they have on the game. In hockey, there's like set FL face offs. You have a certain amount of system changes throughout a game, like how you forecheck, maybe how you want to break out for a. For. For you. How many different plays do you basically have to have memorized in your head going into a game for. For. For your position?

[Biz]

And as a center, you got to know just as much as the quarterback, right?

[David Andrews]

Yeah. Me and Tom would work really hand inand together, you know, how we wanted to handle. Look, he was, he was driving the bus and then I was conducting it, you know what I mean? And it is, it's a lot. But I would say, you know, biz really, you would have your core plays, right? And then, you know, which we probably had. So let, let's say like passing plays, right? You would have dual protections in that, which is something. And then you would have five of those. Then you would have slide protections, you would have five of those. Then you'd have your empty protections, you'd have five of those. And then you'd have play actions, gadgets and all these different things. It's always constantly changing week to week because of what you're facing, right? So if a team runs a lot of man defense, when they blitz in the back, has to stay in the block, you can expect the extra blitzer because when the backs guy gets blocked, he's going to add on. So there's all different things that changes week to week, that changes your rules, right? You might want to say, hey, they do this, we got to be in three by one formations, which means three receivers on one side, one on the other because of their blitz package. And you can't tell because now the weak safety gets involved in two by two. So there's all this different stuff that would change week to week on who you're playing, how you're playing, and. And it, it's. You go into a game and I would say memorize. You have to learn the offense, right? And that's what training camp's for. That's why we spend so much time in training camp, in the off season program, because you have to learn the offense. And then once you know it now it just changes week to week, right? So it's a little, you know, nuanced week to week. And as an offensive lineman, you can change plays, call the same play, but instead of a tight end doing something, now it can be a receiver. So it really doesn't affect you, but it changes how it's, you know, viewed by the defense, right. You go up there like Mac Hollins, right? Matt can do so much run blocking as a receiver, so you can do different things where it's like, hey, now we only have one tight end, but we have Matt Collins who's very physical now when he took him out. Now you have two tight ends now. That changes everything. But you're still running the same core play, if that makes sense.

[Yandel]

Last quick one, follow up. How many times when. When Tom would get in there and you'd be like, we're gonna go like red blood.

[Biz]

Who.

[Yandel]

Like whatever you. You call the play. And you were like, I don't know what play? He just called. And like, would you have to be. Never one time?

[Whitney]

No.

[Yandel]

Okay. Like it just. Okay.

[David Andrews]

I mean, probably my. So my rookie year, right, I was undrafted. You know, I was supposed to be there for a cup of coffee and then go sell insurance or something. And then. But it was awesome because I got thrown in with Tom. Some reps. Well, I'm learning this offense at a snail's pace and he's on, you know, ninth degree algebra, so it made me have to learn it, you know, and like, dude, I. I made flashcards. You know, all the stuff teachers tell you to do to learn how to study and then you don't do in school. That's what I did. Coming. I had flashcards. You need my. I'll never forget in the huddle. No, I had him.

[Biz]

Dude, he had one of the arm things.

[David Andrews]

I locked. I would lock myself in my hotel.

[Yandel]

You had one of those quads.

[David Andrews]

Stayed at the Residence Inn in Foxborough. I'm a Ritz Carlton black member with how much time I spent that Marriott residence in we. I would lock myself in the room and I, I went and bought a white Whiteboard and expo markers. I had flash cards. I was drawing stuff up. But I'll never forget, I went home with my dad and my dad coached me and, and, you know, you know, had a lot of impact on my life. But it also became. I'll never forget, he came to college one day and tried to coach me. I got dumped in college, picked up someone, put me on my head, helmet fly off, and I'm walking off the field and he said something to me and I was like, hey, this isn't high school football anymore. If you ever come, if you come to practice, don't say a word to me anymore. And, you know, it was whatever, but, you know, he was my coach for my whole life. And then, you know, we were at home, we get like five weeks off in the summer. So I was like, hey, quiz me on these flashcards. He's like arguing with me about what I wrote and I'm like, shut. You don't know what that means in the first place, so just shut the hell up. You know. But it was, that's what I tried to do, to just try to learn it, because I knew with my position and where I was, if I, you know, if I fucked up my opportunity, I wasn't getting. I mean, you guys see it in hockey, right? Like a high draft pick in hockey, he's going to get more and more opportunities, right? Oh, yeah. Versus someone that, you know, gets in. I, I don't even know how many rounds are in hockey, but a late round draft pick, like, he kind of dicks around, they're just going to be like, all right, scrap it, we're moving on, you know, and that's even worse for an undrafted guy. So, you know, that was. I knew for me, if I had an opportunity, I better be squared away and ready to go, because if not, I wasn't gonna. They could cut me and wrote me a check for $5,000 and sent me on the way, you know, and. And so I knew I had to have that. So I work so hard on my school side of football, you know, more than I ever did in anything, because it was just in school, I, I wasn't. Yeah, I was a big school guy. I was, I was. School was always pretty easy for me, so I didn't feel like I had to study. I could scrape by, but, yeah, I don't know. And I loved the. I grew up in football. My uncle was a head coach for a long time. He's actually, he's in the ring of honor here for the Broncos. And So I grew up around training camp and seeing all this stuff, and it was one of those things from, like, an early age. Like, I fell in love with. I only played O line. Like, I never scored a touchdown. I played for 26 years. You know, it was just like, this is what I loved. I love being an O lineman and watching my uncle's guys and seeing that. Like, there's just something special about it. So, you know, and I. I think it's similar to, like, hockey, right? You guys have these lines you play in, and you guys kind of know how each other are going to react even when something goes off script, Right? Like, something happens, which I know your guys's sports, very unscripted in a lot of ways. But you guys just get that feel with guys. Yeah, that's how it. Being an old lineman is. Like, something could happen at a game, and when you got a good old line and guys that click with each other and play together for a long time, it doesn't matter because, you know, I know how my right guard's gonna react. He knows how I'm going to react when hits the fan. So I don't know. I. I've loved studying football. I still, like. I love watching the tape. Like, waking up Monday morning. Watching tape is like, the highlight of my week, which is kind of sad.

[Biz]

But so besides, you know, being afraid to not know the plays and stuff like that, I know Tom Brady was big on not having a sweaty ass. Were you ever worried about, you know, having too sweaty of an ass out there? Because I know you're a sweaty fella.

[David Andrews]

Yeah, you know it. Thank God. I couldn't imagine playing with him in Tampa. But I will say this. My favorite thing about playing in New England, right? You get up there and you're like, man, this is, you know, I got up. I'll never forget, my wife came my first Memorial weekend. She comes up there. She didn't bring a jacket. You know, we're from Georgia. It's 80, 90 degrees. Memorial weekend. It was like 50 and raining. Had to go buy her a jacket. Like, it was miserable. She was like, this place sucks. You know, like, it's, you know, gray and raining, and it's Memorial Day weekend. You're supposed to be drinking and hanging out. But, you know, but the. The best part was, like, in training camp, you're like, oh, thank God it's not going to be 105 degrees out there today. And just guys from the south, we always just fall out. Like, it's like 91 degrees and we're just getting our ass kicked up here. It's a weird heat, but he was very big on it. I had never understood it. It kind of pissed me off a little bit because I'm like, dude, I've done this for a long time. I know I haven't played in the NFL, but like, like, other quarterbacks just get along with it. But that's what made Tom so special, is he just found these little edges, right? This is little thing on how I can be better, how I can make stuff easier. So, yeah, not having a sweaty ass and getting the ball. But then he got mad at me. I didn't wear a glove on my snap hand, and I bleed a lot. And, you know, I mean, you're hitting guys. Your knuckles, your hands, they're just always cut up and bloody blood on the ball would piss them off too. I'm like, what? Like, what do you want me to do about this?

[Yandel]

What would you do to keep a dry ass? You would.

[Whitney]

So dude wipes.

[David Andrews]

You would learn how to fold these towels. We had. And I had to throw away a lot of towels. Something.

[Biz]

Yeah, they're all at the residents in.

[David Andrews]

Yeah, some. Some came out a little messy at times, you know, and, you know, so they. They made it in the trash and not the laundry. But you had this very special way. You had to fold a towel and then you had to put it in your pants. Now you had to put it bare ass. Some guys would want to go like compression pants and then the towel and that. To me, that system never worked because you're never getting that the source, right? You got to get in there. You got to get to the source of the ass and so that you do that. Then he would get real big on this baby powder kick, right? And. And I don't know if hockey guys deal with chafing.

[Yandel]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Football.

[David Andrews]

Like the chafing. Like, gold bond. Especially when we were doing like 2 a days. That's like a freaking gold bond's a commodity, you know, like, who's got the gold bond? And so always the trainers would have gold bond. And then he became right. And like, you're dying, you're sweaty, you're hot, you know, you're fighting, you know, giant men, and you're just trying to take a break. You're just trying to get some water, and all of a sudden, some guy just comes and rips your pants open and just shoes.

[Yandel]

Shoots shoes.

[David Andrews]

Baby powder. And like, you know, like, Tom had.

[Yandel]

A baby powder guy to come fucking loud.

[Biz]

He did it.

[David Andrews]

He did it. He would take on the trainers and just like, you're so cool.

[Yandel]

And then I let Tom do that to me.

[David Andrews]

So, like, you know, I don't know what your guys, all your equipment's like, but like, oh, Lyman, right? A lot of times you got tape fingers, you got tape on your hands, thumbs, wrists, all this, you know, just on. And he'd be like, go change your towel. Well, and then football pants, right? Oh, Lyman, you know, we got the Dunlap disease. Your belly's done lapped over your belt. So, you know, you're trying to, like, get your sweaty belly and like, take your pants off and get this towel. A new towel on the towel.

[Yandel]

Yeah.

[David Andrews]

You know, it's just like, geez Louise. But, you know, I think, like, one thing I noticed about Tom was how detail oriented he was. And it made you detail oriented if you want. And it just showed you, like, if this guy is at the top of his game, right? That was a guy that could probably just go roll it out there at the time and he's out here. This is how detail. Like, well, I'm nobody. I got to figure something out. Where's my edge? How do I get that edge? And you know how important these little deep, like, ass sweat. Like, who thinks of that? I've. Any watch. Watch. If you watch anybody in the NFL, any centers. The only ones that do it are quarterbacks that played here, are centers that played here. And it's a wild thing to me. I'm like, how is more people not caught up on this?

[Biz]

Right?

[David Andrews]

You know, they will now, hopefully. It's been like the biggest talked about thing, I feel like, of his career, his ass sweat. But, you know, and then I try to train myself not to sweat, you know, just sit in the sauna and just try to pinch my butt cheeks together, I guess. But no, it was, you know, it was. He was. That's just what he did. It was unbelievable. And I. I thought. I'm like, how did no one else think of this? You know, it's really not that big of a deal. And then for me, like, I couldn't. I would go to walkthroughs. I was like, I gotta. It was like my safety blanket. You know, like, once you have it, I'm like, I gotta have my. My. My towel. My ass towel.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[David Andrews]

Needed it. It was like, you know, a little kid with their stuffy, you know.

[Yandel]

Yeah. Was Randy Moss there during part of your.

[David Andrews]

No, Randy. Randy. I know Randy pretty well, but Randy. Me and Randy never played together. He was One of a kind, though.

[Yandel]

My apology, because it would probably be hard to have these, like, these standout characters like you just mentioned, because everyone kind of just fell in line. But who were some of the guys that, like, brought a lot of life to the locker room?

[David Andrews]

Dude, Gronk was a character, right? Ad Edels was nuts. Dude was, you know, nuts. I just, I don't know. You know, like, Devin McCourty was a ringleader in the locker room, you know, And I think, like, people thought, like, oh, we didn't have fun. We cut it loose. But when we, when it was time to go, it was time to go, and it was time to put that aside and let's go. And, you know, I think, like, we, Bill used to, especially old training camps, he would give us a random two day off. When he gave us two day off, the old line was like, how quick can we go to Boston? And how quick can we be out at the bars? You know, it was like, that was just what we did. And, you know, plane rides home, like, all that stuff. Like, it, we had so much fun. But I think we just did such a good job of, like, understanding. Like, the more we focus on this, the more fun we are going to have. And winning is a lot of fun. Like, like, the parade's the best thing that I've ever done in my life. Like, the parades are unreal. The ring ceremonies, and look, at the end of the day. I think people sometimes get misinterpreted. Like, winning's good for business. I get to do a lot of things because I won. Like, yeah, not that. Why do people care about the fat center? You know, because I won. If I didn't win, no one cares, you know?

[Biz]

Yeah.

[David Andrews]

You know your ass was dry. Yeah, my ass was dry. So, you know, that, that, to me, I think we just had guys that were able to put that stuff aside and be like, all right, we're going to do this when it's time for this. But then, like, when it's time to go, it's time to go.

[Whitney]

Biz has been on Edelman's podcast. It's awesome. Is it names, games with names, Biz.

[David Andrews]

He'S got two, and he's got dudes with dudes and games with names.

[Whitney]

Okay, so he's very entertaining. And he was recently telling a story how he would just get in a fight at the beginning of practice on purpose to get kicked out. Like, were you there when he was doing that? Yeah.

[David Andrews]

You know, I, I, I'll never forget toward the end of my Career. We were struggling and. And I got in a fight and Bill was like, get out of here. And I was like, I'm not leaving. I was like, I'm not going off the field. That's Bill. Because I was. I look, you try to fight and I assume it's the same in hockey. Like some days, like, do you guys go out there and it's like, you know, you guys are in a rut and it's like, all right, we gotta fight. Like we gotta get some juice going. You know, you can't do it in the games in football. And also football fights are dumb. You have helmets. Like, you're just gonna hurt yourself. You punch someone in the helmet, like it's dumb. But sometimes you need that. Like you need juice. Like him. And he went at Steph Gilmore very early. He went to Steph. And it was kind of one of those things like, hey, Steph, you know, like, you're our big signing. You know, we wrote Steph a big check. Like, we need you. Like, this is what, you know, I'm coming.

[Whitney]

Wake up kind of.

[David Andrews]

Yeah, like I'm coming at you, you know, and this is what I'm gonna do. And so, you know, it was different things like that. Like, to me, like, if you're gonna fight, it didn't accomplish anything in football and any it would become some days, like, hey, if you fight in the game, you're just gonna hurt your team, you know, and you're gonna get a 15 yard penalty, you're gonna get kicked out. You know, we're very strict. Like, you punch in football, you're out. You touch an official, you're out. Like, there's just, you know, more rules. They don't. It's not part of our game. And so in practice that was be the big thing. Like if you. Especially when you would get in these joint practices and you couldn't even accomplish anything because it was just a fight, you know, what's the point of doing it? But like every now and then, like you needed to get some juice at practice, like training camp, especially against each other. I felt like fighting with each other was always good. Like it just bring people together sometimes get the juices going and look, you, like it's competitive, you're out there. But him going at Steph was. That was a really good one. I thought it set the tone. But then, Julian, you know, we get late in the year, right? And it'd be Friday. Fridays in the NFL are like a feelgood day, you know, try to just get out there. Like tie a bow on the whole package, not contact anybody. And like as old lineman's job, you're supposed to protect everyone, right? If someone gets in a fight, you better go do something about it. Well then Julian would like fight the like, you know, practice squad cornerback on like a Friday in week 13. And you're just like. Because he like touched Julie in the wrong way. And you're just like, oh man, here we go again. You know, it's like, can we just get through this practice? And, and you know, we're all trying to get out of here. Fridays are early day. We get out of there like 2, 3 o'. Clock. So like everyone's trying to get out of there, go see their family, wives, whatever, you know, go to dinner and you know, and then Julian's just out there scrapping with some, you know, 21 year old kid trying to, you know, keep a job, you know, on practice squad. But yeah, Jules was, Jules was awesome. He, he's one of the best teammates. He cared about a lot of people. He made a lot of, you know, I think that's something that was cool coming into New England. A lot of these guys you looked up to, they made an effort to try to connect with you and it made it easy to try to come in and feel like you're a part of the team.

[Whitney]

On the other side, Seattle gets it done. And it's funny because you look for reasons to hate the team you're playing against. Like, as a Pats fan, I'm like, fuck Seattle, we already crushed their dreams once. But I want your opinion on Sam Donald. Cause to me it's a guy who's really hard to dislike. Yeah, he goes to the jets and it's just the Jets. It's not him. But he's got the seeing ghost game and he was kind of a. Oh yeah, laugh a laughingstock for a little bit. Goes to San Fran, then he go, then go, whatever Min. Carolina, San Fran, Minnesota, who? He lights it up. They gas him. So it's a guy who's been through a lot. Like, is he as good as he looks right now? Like this game looks like it'll be. You know, they're. They're big time underdogs, the Pats are.

[David Andrews]

You would have to think so. He's playing hurt. He's got like a torn oblique, I think. You know, he's barely practicing. I don't know, I, I've. You've seen a lot of these quarterbacks kind of like revamp their career, you know. Baker going down yeah, Baker going down to, to Tampa. You know who else I'm trying to think. There's been a few more now.

[Whitney]

Geno Smith for a little bit.

[David Andrews]

For a little bit. Bryce Young this year with the Panthers. You know, like you've seen these quarterbacks kind of like get out of Daniel Jones with the Colts this year before he got hurt. Like. And I don't know, like I want, you want to see people, I'm sure you guys feel the same way. Like you want to see people do well right when you're, especially when you're out of the game. Like you don't want to see a guy like struggle. Like I don't know you. When they're not. When you know these guys are good dudes from what you know, you want to see them do well. You want everyone to do well and make money and have a career. But Sam, I mean it's an unreal story. Minnesota has got to be kicking themselves right now for letting this guy walk out of the building. I understand it because you draft this kid in the first round, you know, what do you, you know, gotta shell out a bunch of money for, for Darl, like it's tough. And if I'm Sam, I'm like, well you drafted this guy in the first round. I don't want to be there. You know, I want to go somewhere where I can have a, you know, another seven years and be a franchise quarterback. And so for him to go out there. Seattle's interesting. Their head coach was actually a GA with me at Georgia. So I know him, you know, and then he went to the Ravens. Was great with the Ravens, running their defense, you know, it's fun. The NFL to me is funny. I don't know how this is in hockey, but it was like a few years ago it was like you got to hire offensive young minded coaches and now you're seeing like brables defense, obviously Mike McDonald's defense, you know, you're seeing some of this like defense resurgency in the NFL. It's going to be a tough game. Look, they, they, they've got obviously one of the best receivers, Jackson Smith for Seattle. Dudes. Unreal. Great running back. They lost their second running back but you know, didn't see much of that last night. I mean just unreal game. And then that defense is really good. And Mike, like I said, Mike McDonnell, their, their head coach is a great defensive minded coach. A lot of experience on that defense, A lot of really good players. It, it's kind of wild. I, I was hoping it was going to be the Rams just for like the nostalgic of like the first dynasty started with the Rams, Tom Brady's second year, going up against Kurt Warner, AKA Matt Stafford, like the older quarterback, like just to beat the Rams and be like, all right, here's our second 20 year dynasty. Everyone can kiss our ass. That would have been kind of sick to me. But it's going to be a good game. It's, it's a fun. The Super Bowl's nuts. It's, it's a wild, wild time and you got two weeks, you know, to really prepare. And once you get out there, we always did a good job, I feel like, of having the game plan kind of buttoned up while you were at home because when you get out there, it just becomes a lot more chaotic. But it's going to be an interesting game. You know, look, I think the Patriots are going to have to score points and obviously now you're not going to be dealing with cold and weather, but you saw what happened last night with that game. I mean, it's a shootout. You're gonna have to score some points and hopefully you get Dre going and this offense going and the defense can continue to do what they do. And maybe it's not a shootout, but it's 24 to something, you know, 27 to something, you know, but I think you're gonna, I, I, I say that, but, you know, who knows? I just don't think you're going to be able to skim out this game like 17 to 14 against this team right now. The way they're playing, they're explosive offensively. I mean, dudes almost threw three touchdowns and 400 yards. And that Rams defense isn't a joke. So, you know, it's going to be a great game. It's, it's, and look, I think to me like a lot of people were talking this week with like Jared Stidham, you know, obviously coming in. There's not a lot of people on that Patriots team that have been to the AFC Championship and not a lot that had been to the Super Bowl. I mean, there's a few guys, but it's not like it's the teams of the past, of the Patriots walking back into a AFC championship super bowl yesterday. That was the biggest game of Drake Mace career, you know, so, and obviously this, everyone in these playoffs have been for Drake. He's never been in this position. So, you know, I think Mike's the, the one thing like Mike understands what's about to happen. You Know, V's got an idea. He's played in a lot of these games as a player, which is such a unique perspective. So he's going to understand what this week's like these next two weeks and, you know, hopefully have the team ready to go.

[Biz]

How important is that? That, that two weeks of, or even when you get out to the super bowl, of enjoying it, but also like, hey, we're here to win a Super Bowl. Especially, like you said, a lot of these guys, it's their first time in a Super Bowl.

[David Andrews]

Yeah, it's hard. I, I, I look at my first super bowl in Houston versus the Falcons. I didn't enjoy it, you know, I didn't.

[Biz]

I did. I was there.

[David Andrews]

Were you? Yeah, it my. Let me tell you, I had like 12 buddies and a wife. My wife was there and they had.

[Yandel]

That was your first one?

[David Andrews]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Wow.

[Yandel]

The Atlanta, the Atlanta Comeback.

[David Andrews]

Yeah, the Atlanta Comeback. So holy. Yeah, it was, you know, and then, and then it's, it's, you know, it's a lot like you're trying to figure out tickets for your family. You're trying to figure all this stuff out. Like, it puts a lot on you and, you know, but there's just nothing like it. And I think for me, I, I enjoy. Right in its. Sure. Same in hockey a little bit. Right. You guys play in, you know, college, whatever. It's just you and the boys always. And then you get to the big leagues and it's like, well, I'm playing now even though I'm 22 years old. Like, I'm playing with dudes that are 31 and they have three kids at home. So it's not like, hey, practice is over, let's all go hang out with the boys. Like, you know, guys are got family. Especially in football when you're working the 5, 36 o' clock at night, like, you're not going out with the boys every night. Like, sure, you try to build that stuff in and build that rapport, but, you know, guys got families, they got wives to go home to in college. It's like, all right, where's wing night tonight? You know, like, where, where's the dollar beers? And it's just not like that. So any chance you get where it's just you guys, like the patch got stuck here last night. That to me is like a dream come true. Just you and the boys together. No distractions, like, you know, because you play at home. Everyone's got families in town, right? Like your mom and dad, your aunt, uncle, grandmas and High school cultures and friends. Like, so game ends. A lot of times it's like, good to see you guys. And then you're like, all right, I gotta go find my family and do all this stuff. And you. You miss out on some of that stuff sometimes. So, like, when you're on the road and you get stuck or whatever, like, it's just you and the boys for that time. Those. Those moments are priceless to me. So when you go out to the super bowl, your family usually doesn't get out there to, like, Thursday afternoon. So you're gonna get, like, four or five days of just you and the boys.

[Biz]

Okay?

[David Andrews]

And, like, I remember when we played. We played in Atlanta, which I grew up in Atlanta in 2018 versus the Rams. Everyone's like, where do we go? What are we doing? So I had a buddy that owned a bar called him. I was like, hey, can you. You know, can you set up something for me? And they were hosting, like, a private party. It was like, Monday night. We had Tuesday off. He's like, I'll put you out on our patio. So he set me up. Like, we had, like, 20 dudes in there. Took all the guys to Waffle House after, you know, like, they'd never been to Waffle House. So we took him. I was like, we gotta drink some beers. You gotta go to Waffle House after. So we all go to Waffle House. Like, that kind of stuff, you know, you really enjoy and cherish. And then when your family gets in, you know, then it kind of changes again, right? It's like seeing your family and guys with the kids. And then Saturday is, like, a picture day, which is awesome to get, like, you know, all these pictures with your family on the field with your team and your uniform, you know? And then Saturday night, obviously, you're trying to lock in, but, like, the thing that's most wild to me, like, you know, obviously, Tom Brady's jersey got stolen. Remember that in 16 where that was.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[David Andrews]

I'm like, no, that happened because it's chaos after. It's just. No, there's no rules. Like, we live such a structured life during the season. Be here at this time. Do this. Everyone's ushering us. The horns on the bus are honking, letting you know it's time to go. Like. And then after the super bowl, it's just, like, chaos. No rules. What are we doing? You know, I mean, I remember when we played the. The Falcons. We're smoking cigars. My buddies are smoking cigarettes inside this convention center. I'm like, I guess there's no rules. We went into. We went to Minnesota after the game and, and lost obviously to the Eagles. So I'm pissed. I don't want to be there. All my buddies are there. They been drunk for four days. And you know, we show up to the after party and. And I'm like, all right, let's go home. And they're like, no. Like, you know, they're like, let's have some fun. Like it is what it is. And. And I was like that, like, I want to go home. So my buddy brings me, he's like, here, brings me two double Jack and Cokes. He's like, drink those. He goes, you drink those and then we'll decide. And like, I finished the first one, there was two more. And after those I was like, screw it, let's go. Like, I can't change the game now, you know, and ended up having a great night with my friends and families and just hanging out. Then we ended up trying to take home a bunch of champagne and beer bottles and. And the bags exploded all over this party we were at. Trying to leave. My wife was pissed. We just like kind of ran. We didn't know what else to do, you know, like we're like 18. Sneaking beers out of like your parents house. Like, I was just like, oh, run. I guess like it is. Yeah, my wife's just like dog cussing us. And then we stayed up all night, you know, in the hotel room with my buddies and we had to leave the next morning. It's like, things like that, you know, even though we lost, like, I cherish those moments, you know, hanging out with those guys and, and especially now with kids and every. You don't get to do that stuff like you used to, you know. Yeah, but I, you know, for this team, I think you never know when it's going to be over. Like you think, right? We're all sitting here, right, as Patriot fans with Drake may like we're going to win another six Super Bowls. I sure hope so. But you don't know. You know, when we played the Rams in 18, I never thought that was going to be the last Super Bowl I ever played in, you know, and, and you know, it was the. I played one more playoff game in the last, I guess. What was that? Five years of my career, you know, and it just, it's fleeting, man. So you don't know if you're going to get this opportunity again. You damn sure better take advantage of it, you know, and so I'm excited for him I mean, it's a great. It's unbelievable. It's an amazing story, and you've got a great opportunity that will change your life. You know, Tom. Tom never really spoke to the team. People always thought, like, oh, what are these pump up speeches? Like, you know, every week you didn't really give them, you know, but when we got into these games, the AFC Championship or Super bowl, he talked to the offense, and it was unbelievable hearing them talk about legacy and how important this was and the honor that you're going to bestow on, you know, and it's. Sometimes you think about it, it's like, kind of cheesy. It's just a football game, but there's some truth to it. Like, would he.

[Yandel]

Would he often tell you gu. Like, like, like closely after the AFC Championship game just to kind of keep you guys on the rails?

[David Andrews]

No, it'd be like right before either the start of the week or right before we left to go out there. He usually did it at home. He didn't do it at the Super Bowl. You know, it was like the week, this week, they're about to deal with.

[Yandel]

Was there anything that you remembered in particular about that comeback when you guys went in for half and you guys were down? What? You were down.

[David Andrews]

Everyone thinks, right, like, it's like the Miracle on Ice speech. You know, it was funny. I went down to UNC and there. There was not a big speech, but I go down to UNC and a lot of people always ask, like, what's Bill like? And I tell them, like, he's actually kind of funny. Like, he's very dry, but he's funny. And it's awkward because you make a joke in the team meeting room and, like, as an undrafted young player, I'm like, is that funny? Do I laugh at that? Like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do here, but I was talking to the guys about the game, his team, and. And, you know, it really wasn't about them, it was about us. And. And Bill goes, well, I remember what I said. He goes. He said, 21 points isn't going to be enough to beat us. And then he goes. He goes, they scored 28. And I thought that might. That might be enough, you know, but at that halftime speech, there wasn't anything. I'll never. Josh. Josh came in and he wrote, you know, 44 plays, which is a lot and a half. You usually average around 50 to 60 plays of offense a game. So he wrote 44 plays. Whatever our time of possession is, make it count. I was like, you know, that's interesting. And when you look at that game, there's a lot of added like old sayings of football, right? Like sometimes you win games but you're never in control of the game. Like the Patriots won yesterday. I don't know if the Patriots were really in control of that game. You know, Denver was moving the ball. They, you know, made the plays when it counted, but they weren't in control of that game. And then there's games you lose and you're in control of that game. And so it was one of those that we were in control of the game, but we were losing. You know, we had look the pick six. We were moving the football. That was on their side of the 50. That was points we gave up. We had a fumble. A Garrett Blunt had a fumble like the 30 yard line. That was points we gave up. We were moving the ball. We just, we were screwing it up. And so, you know, there really wasn't this big speech. Julian was going nuts, right? You guys probably seen the mic up clips. It's going to be a hell of a story, you know, and he was going nuts. But there wasn't like this amazing Disney moment speech. And for us, I felt like, look, this is about us. It's not about them. We're the ones screwing this thing up. But I do love that game because there's so much that goes into it that people don't talk about. Like we kicked off the ball after scoring once and the special teams tackled them deep, pinned them deep and if they didn't do that, maybe the Patriot or the Falcons are in field goal range and, and you know, it's. There was little things throughout the game where you never lost hope. But the one time like the Bill moment where it's like they score 28. Coolio Jones had a foot injury and we go in all week, I'm sure you guys would like you guys dealing with injured people and they're like, hey, he's not going to be able to do something because of the injury. So he had a hurt left foot. So the whole week it was like he's not going to be able to cut off his left foot and go out to the boundary. And you know, if he's on the right side of the field, he's got to be running in cuts. He's got to be going inside because he can't plant. I don't know if you guys remember the catch he caught on the sideline.

[Biz]

Insane.

[David Andrews]

Unbelievable. And where the online sitting was right in front of us. And I'll never forget watching him run and plan off that left foot and cut to that sideline and make that catch. And I was thinking, son of a. That foot looked fucking fine to me right there, you know? And he makes this catch on the sideline, and that was like a moment for me where I was like, oh, no. Like, this might be it. That might be the straw that broke us right there. But, you know, the defense came up huge. It was one of those games where all three phases at the end of the game had to come up huge. And I don't know, it always felt like, to me, in overtime, Matthew Slater always called heads. It was. It was a tradition. His dad did it. His dad played in the league for a long time. His dad's a Hall of Famer. His dad always called heads. And he called heads a lot, and he won a lot. And so when he did that in overtime, it was like, it was over, you know? Same thing in Kansas City. Like, when we got the ball, that's it. This game's over. Get the buses going. Get the plane de ice or going, we're going home, you know? I think we ended up running 99 plays that game. It was the most plays ever ran in a Super bowl.

[Biz]

And.

[Yandel]

Wow.

[David Andrews]

Yeah, it was. It was exhausting. It was.

[Yandel]

Your ass must have been sweating like crazy. You must have gone through four towels. I didn't.

[David Andrews]

I didn't go through that many that game, I don't think. Like I said, I hated. That was my biggest pet peeve. I hated changing them because of the Dunlap disease and everything else, you know, so. All the tape and everything else, it just. It messed with me. I hated changing, so. But, yeah, it was. It was an unreal game.

[Yandel]

It.

[David Andrews]

Some days, it's still, like. People love talking about it. I'm like, it just doesn't. I don't know. It doesn't feel that real, you know, like. And I don't think it'll ever happen again, which is kind of really cool. But, I mean, that's the thing. It just takes a lot of special people, you know, and those teams, the amount of special people we had, from the coaching staff to the.

[Whitney]

To the.

[David Andrews]

You know, the whole organization, right? And. And, you know, I'm sure you guys. When you guys have success, right, like your trainers, all those people that do all the dirty work for y', all, you know, that for all of us to just go out there and, you know, everyone thinks we work so hard, but it's like, yeah, we worked really hard, but, like, also the, the equipment guy that's washing all our shit. And when we get home at 5am from a road game and we get to go home for a few hours before we have to come back to work, he's staying at work doing our laundry, you know, and so those. To get to share the success with all those people, to me is like, what makes it unbelievable, you know, and then you throw in your friends and family and, you know, high school coaches and all these people that impacted your life. That's what makes it all worth it.

[Whitney]

That, yeah, that's a lot like hockey. It's a family. And, and I appreciate all this. My last thing for you is, how did you meet Yance? Because I think there's something behind that. Like, I don't know how you guys became buddies.

[Yandel]

Honorary towel boy one day.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[David Andrews]

Was shoving towels in my, my drawers for me in the off season. No. So I, I, we ended up needed a place to train in New England, and, and Brian McDonough had a gym in Foxborough. And look, I grew up, I didn't. I had the Thrashers, right?

[Ra]

For.

[David Andrews]

I felt like a cup of coffee in Atlanta was probably longer than that. But as a kid, I didn't know anything about hockey. Nothing about it. The kids in Georgia that played hockey were all homeschooled because they played on these club teams. So then they were, like, weird because they played hockey and were homeschooled, you know, and we're like, well, we're going to football, and, like, we're all in school together. And baseball, right? Baseball's king in the south. And, and so I come up here, and some of the old Patriots guys are like, hey, meet Brian. This is his gym and all this stuff. And I was like, all right, cool. And I started meeting these hockey guys. And no offense to you guys, right? But you guys don't look like physical imposing creep. Like, you put like, gronk next to one of y'. All. Like, what? You're a really tall dude.

[Whitney]

Biz has the build. But we did a recent sandbagger with Paige Sprane. I think her first thing was like, whitney played hockey. He doesn't look like an athlete.

[Yandel]

No. Where's his ass?

[David Andrews]

To me, like, I would say, like, hockey guys look like, you know, like businessmen that, like, take really good care of themselves. Like, you guys are in good shape. But so they had this little, like, PT area in the gym. So I was getting some work done, and Yandel was in there getting work done, and I had no idea who Yandel was. And you know, and he's brings up talking about Georgia football and well, I love Georgia, so anyone does that, I'm. I'm ready to talk. So we get to talking and. And Yandel, I would say, didn't do a lot of work in the gym some days and. And talked a lot about playing golf and doing different things. And you know, I would work out with these hockey guys. And you guys are just. I'd watch you guys run and it would be the funniest to me, like. But then we would do stuff, right? We'd like do like these balance drills. And you guys are like one legged things. And I'm like struggling and you guys are just like sitting there. Like we used to do these, which was fun for us. We'd sit on like BOSU balls one legged. And like, you guys would give me a hockey stick. But long story short, I keep talking to Yandel. I had no idea who he was. Football, you know, we talk about Georgia football, patriots, whatever. And I became close with a lot of the hockey guys, like the Hayes brothers and different things like that. And you know, but I didn't think Yandel, I thought he. I didn't know anything about him. And you know, I wasn't like plumber. Yeah, I just. I thought Yandel honestly, like played college hockey with some of these guys and did really well in business. And you know, they just like kind of like wanted him around. Like, he was always great. He was always chopping it up. Like they liked having him around, you know, and he kind of do some stuff and then he kind of dip. And you know, they would all be going. I felt like they would always like work out and then go skate or skate and then work out, you know, at the rink. And we trained at a hockey rink. And I just never saw Keith really doing that. So I just figured like, he's just here like hanging out, staying in shape, you know, and works some business job somewhere. And then the trainer Brian was like, you know who that is, right? I'm like, yeah, it's thief. Good dude. He's like, yeah, but like, you know, like who he is. And I was like, I mean, not really. Like, we talk about Georgia football. And then all of a sudden he was like, he's the longest running iron man. And I was like, like iron man, like competent, you know, like, like dressed up every year, marathons, you know, or something.

[Whitney]

You're like, the NHL is not a serious league.

[David Andrews]

And. And I mean, this is early in my Career. It's like my second year. And. And he's like, no, he, he. He's like the. He played the most games in the NHL consecutively. And I was like, that guy. This guy. Like, I've seen him do like a couple sets of bench press and like a minute on the fan bike for a week. And you know, it. It just became. We became close and. And then, you know, I. I d. The one thing he did to me. What year was that? You got your. All your busted up your teeth and all that?

[Biz]

I think it was 2019.

[Yandel]

Yeah.

[David Andrews]

He sent me this picture of him, like laying in a dentist. And I hate nasty the teeth. For me, like, I've had a lot of broken bones and surgeries and stitches. Cool. The mouth stuff. To me, this is what sets football and hockey apartment that you guys think that's like a badge of honor, like not wearing anything, covering your face. To me is, you guys need to talk to some people about that. But, you know, it just. He sent me that picture on like a random day. I'm like, practice. I'm like puking looking at it. I was like, dude, don't ever send me something like that again. But we always just stayed in touch. We'd see each other in the off season. It was really fun for me getting to see all these hockey guys and. And become friends with them and learn about what the sport is and what it's like. Like, I thought. I thought you guys were like basketball players where, like the starters played, you know, like you guys took breaks. But, like, I thought, like, you guys played 90% of the game, not like, oh, a minute shift is like a super long shift that like, blew my mind. Like, I just got to learn a lot and being with these guys and then it. It became fun for me because, you know, you start making relationships, right, with like the Hayes brothers or Noah Hannifan Yandels, like all these different dudes. And then you kind of like get to keep up with their career when you didn't care, you know, like you didn't know anything about hockey. And like now I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, Keith's with the Flyers with Hayes. That's really cool. You know, it's just very cool to get a different perspective of the sport. And then being up here in New England now, like, this is our home. You know, I got my son and learned to skate. Keith sent me some skates after I sent him a video, and he said, he's like, your son cannot be in those skates. You know, and, you know, I took my son to pond a few weeks ago and like, he's skating on the pond with kids. Like, like, to me, it's like, it's such a fun, you know, new thing for me. Like, I hope my son, even though this is, like, I know people, this sounds wild, but, like, I hope he plays hockey because I won't know anything about it and there'll be no pressure, you know, and. And to me, like, I think watching bad football, like, watching like 7 year olds, like, if I'm not coaching and the coach tells them to do something I disagree with, like, then I'll be the dad on Instagram, you know, like fighting a coach at little league.

[Yandel]

Yeah.

[David Andrews]

Versus, like hockey. I'm like, yeah, buddy, good job.

[Whitney]

You know, just turned it over like.

[Yandel]

A wrestling father who. Who pushed over the referee.

[David Andrews]

Yeah.

[Biz]

You know, so you gotta bring forward to Wit's rink. Have him buzz around.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[David Andrews]

Where's your ring, Whit?

[Whitney]

At my house.

[David Andrews]

Oh, you got one at the house?

[Whitney]

Yeah. How old is he?

[David Andrews]

4.

[Whitney]

When does he turn 5?

[David Andrews]

August.

[Whitney]

Okay.

[David Andrews]

You gotta, you wit, you gotta. He's. He's real big on his crate right now. He loves the crate, actually.

[Whitney]

That leads me. I should have mentioned this. I. I should have mentioned this before, but it's rollback. Rollback. Last question. Use the code chicklets on rollback.com for 20 off your first purchase at the end of the week. C H I C L E t s on Rho b a c k dot com. 20 off pants, joggers, hoodies and more. But this kid's gonna be a tank. You're a tank. According to the Internet, when you played, you were 6:2. Still 6:2, 300 pounds. What are you weighing in now? Because your wife must have loved the fact, like, all right, he's gonna be losing a couple of lbs here with retirement.

[David Andrews]

Hey, I always said women like to party with a full keg, not a six pack, Right. You know, but no, yeah, that's. I've really enjoyed. I. Dude, I gave away a lot of clothes. Like my suits now, you know, I had to get custom suits made. When you're that big, you can't just kind of go buy stuff. But now I look like I just bought all my suits. I got to get those all retailered. Which gonna be. I ate. Really? I'm a fake. £300. You know, I was eating. It was disgusting. I wasn't eating, like, bad, but like, the quantity of food I was eating, you know, just to put on all day, right? Yeah. It just, it was a lot. And I always told my wife, like, I was like, I feel bad for you because you have to eat like an offensive lineman. You know, it's like. And that was like the thing. Lunch for us was always a struggle. Right. Especially in the off season when I was home more. And it's like, what do you want for lunch? He's like, oh, like a salad or maybe like a cup of soup and a salad. I'm like, well, like, I need a ribeye, a baked potato, maybe some shrimp, you know, some asparagus.

[Yandel]

How many calories we talking?

[David Andrews]

I would probably try to eat north of 5,000 a day, every day.

[Biz]

Wow.

[Yandel]

Wow.

[David Andrews]

It was like, you know, it was a lot. And, and then, and then when you get.

[Biz]

He was drinking 2500 of calories, though. Yeah.

[David Andrews]

When you get that much, you're. You just can't, like, you're having to do different things, whether it's like protein shakes. You're having to drink a lot of calories.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

You're throwing away a lot of towels.

[David Andrews]

Throwing away a lot of towels. Yeah. It's messy, you know, and, and so. But I've enjoyed, you know, losing a lot of weight. Got into. I'll never forget, I played golf with the end of this summer on Nantucket. And I, I, it didn't hit me. We, we were going to tee off on the back nine. We played super early. It didn't hit me out. It was like, you know, my first training camp. A lot of people are like, how are you going to be without football? You know, I was worried. Like, it's. I played it since I was 6 years old. It's been a part, such a part of my life. And sitting there teeing off with the ends on the back nine. At my comment, I was like. And I looked down at my phone, it was like 8:30. And I was like, dude, they're walking into a team meeting right now and I'm sitting on Nantucket. Like, things are all right. You know, life. Life's okay right now. So, you know.

[Yandel]

And you're not clogging the toilet. You must have been logs.

[David Andrews]

I, I would. So I, my, my routine was first thing in the morning about 5:40 when I got up. Poop facility. Poop. Then you would have to, like, Then it got dicey because, you know, you're drinking a lot of coffee. And we'd always have a team meeting at 8, so you always playing in this weird window. Right. And the team meeting with Bill, like they're supposed to be 15 minutes. It was an hour. And a lot of times it changed our whole day. You know, the coaches would be pissed.

[Yandel]

Because Bill just a spring to the stall after that one.

[David Andrews]

After. Or you're trying to play the game before, where you're doing stuff, right? Whether it's treatment, a lift, breaking down, film, meeting with the Oli. So you're trying to do this, like, get as much as you can done, but you got to leave yourself some, you know, some. Some time, right? And then, you know, at the facility, you guys, you got the one ply toilet paper. So your cleanup situation, you know, you gotta. You gotta. More towels. Shower. I. I hit some post shower ones at the facility, you know, sometimes. But no, I mean, it's been. It's been great. Lost. I've lost like £40. Oh, you know, a lot of it was. I do. I mean, I saw you a lot this summer playing golf. Got into that. That's kind of been my retirement thing.

[Whitney]

Buddy, you are not just playing golf like that. Is the bug biting someone? Maybe as much as I've ever seen. It's like I remember just. I was the exact same way. It's like I got nothing else to do. And then you. You hit that one good shot and you're like, what the was that?

[David Andrews]

Oh, my gosh. It's the most addictive thing. And I do have like an addictive personality with like, you know, you get into it, right? And I was like, I'm not gonna buy new clubs. I'm not. Then you're just like, oh, my gosh, I gotta get like, I hit a bad shot. I gotta. Maybe it's my club. I've changed grips. Grips shafts, which, by the way, I was a little upset shoes next to me. I think I was the seventh alternate for a sandbagger thing.

[Yandel]

I was just gonna throw this out there, considering you and Tom are that close. Tom said that he would do one. He said nine holes, but we could get him an 18. You, Tom, and who else? Who would be the third that you trust?

[David Andrews]

Edelnut. Yeah, Edelnut. We get Brian Hoyer from my podcast. Yes. You know, we could. And we. We make Tom and Yance take us to Old Sandwich.

[Whitney]

They've told me. Although they've. They've said there's no chance if I'm like, hey, I think TB12 is actually a member there.

[David Andrews]

He is.

[Whitney]

He's on the membership book, so.

[David Andrews]

He is. He's a member. I had texted him when I. Because you had asked me to go play over the summer and Couldn't make it work and went with another guy. And Tom's like, caddy there, who also goes down to like Seminole and Caddy's.

[Whitney]

That's my guy. Bone.

[David Andrews]

Dude, he's awesome.

[Whitney]

He's the best.

[David Andrews]

So we send like a picture to Tom and, and I was like, hey, man, since you're not up here much, you want me to take over this membership for you? You know, can you, does that work? Can you transfer them? You know, I'll, I'll make good use of it for you, but yeah, you know, I'd like to see Tom, you know, playing golf. Watched a clip the other day. He needs to get some lessons. Swings looking a little janky.

[Yandel]

All right.

[Biz]

Hey, you might be on his team.

[Whitney]

Look at this. If they are team, they're already kind of battling back and forth. We play people and they end up arguing and us three just come out on top. It's incredible how it works.

[David Andrews]

The best I gotta say, for my flight back, didn't you guys do, what's his name? The, the Bob does sports guy? The, the crazy guy? Duke. Duke. Didn't you guys do him? A while ago, these guys couldn't last. I haven't been able to. Why? I gotta. I got that one saved for my.

[Whitney]

Flight home, but I. Duke put us in a mental pretzel.

[David Andrews]

I texted Yan's after the page one, you guys chirping. Those guys was unbelievable.

[Yandel]

Unbelievable. The guys, fighters getting their grease on.

[Biz]

Oh, how about this story? When I was in London, I'm at the Boston bar watching the game. I look over and I see a dude wearing a David Andrews jersey. I'm like, I'm like, this dude must have got this scent or whatever. Like, no offense, no one usually has the fucking O line jersey. So I go over to the guy, I'm like, are you David Andrews fan? He was like, yeah, I love him. I, I bought this jersey in Foxborough. The great guy that D a is I FaceTime. D A. Give the, give the guy the phone. The guy was crying afterwards. Crying, like, couldn't have been more happy. He's like, you just made my life, man. That was the best thing ever. So I, I want to say thank you for that guy and for answering the phone at 2 in the morning.

[David Andrews]

One thing, like, playing in New England, like, is such an amazing sports city. From all four sports or, you know, it's, it is cool to see like, that support. Like, I saw a guy in Denver with my jersey on at the game yesterday. Like, that's, it's just really, it's cool, you know, and they care, and it's an amazing place to play professional sports, I think.

[Whitney]

Well, D A, this was awesome. Long overdue. Congrats on everything, dude. I see you all over sports radio. You got your podcast, the Sandbagger will happen in the Future, and we appreciate it. Congrats on all your success. I know retirement can be tough, but you're. You're certainly crushing, and we're not going.

[Yandel]

To let you off the hook either. Prediction for the Super Bowl. Oh, man, that's tough.

[David Andrews]

You know, the media stuff's been hard for me because I, like, have such a fandom of the Patriots, you know, and, like, such a. That sometimes it. But we did the NBC. We do a podcast with NBC. They pulled up me at the beat, like, third game of the year going through, and I pick every game but one, right? Like, win or loss. Not score, obviously, win or loss, because you just. You get this feeling and you think something's going to be special. But that was just a little bit of luck. The team helped me out, but, man, this one's tough because I just. Offensively, they just haven't looked great in three weeks, and that makes me very, very nervous. And I know they play tough defense, but Seattle's a great defense, so I have to say I've stuck with it all year. I'll go Pats. I'm gonna go Pats. 30, 24.

[Biz]

Hell, yeah.

[Yandel]

Good game.

[David Andrews]

I gotta ride. I gotta ride with them. They, you know, they haven't let me down yet, and I. Oh, those jerseys.

[Whitney]

Be getting chucked in the trash if you just pick Seattle. 30.

[David Andrews]

Exactly.

[Whitney]

You know, 24.

[David Andrews]

So, you know, I do think this is going to be their hardest game I of the year. It's going to be tough, you know, it. I just. I hope the offense can settle down a little bit and get back to where they were, you know, throughout the year, because the last few weeks have been rough, and it just, you know, there's been glimpses of it. Yesterday is a different thing with the weather, but there's been glimpses of it. But you've had the turnovers and all this stuff. That stuff. You can't. You can't live like that. It'll beat you eventually, so. But I think the packs can do that. I have so much faith in the coaching staff. They've done such an amazing job this year. So I gotta ride with them, man. Gotta ride with them.

[Whitney]

David Andrews, thank you very much. We'll talk soon.

[David Andrews]

Thanks, fellas. Appreciate y'. All.

[Biz]

Thanks da.

[Whitney]

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[Whitney]

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[Yandel]

Plenty of hockey to talk about.

[Whitney]

Yeah, I mean we could get it, we can get into it right now. First off, I do want to say I'm very excited to be at Penn State this weekend. Right. We're heading out there Thursday. We're all going to meet up, we're going to do another in person pod together for Friday. We're going to get a bunch of interviews and then we'll go to the Friday night game. That's in Pula Ice Arena. Saturday afternoon is at, I believe, is it Beaver Stadium. A whiteout in front of 60,000. Now I don't know if snow's going to hit there. Wouldn't be a bad place to get snowed in at. Not, not going to lie, but, but I'm very excited to see even their rink too because they've been on fire. I think they just went into Wisconsin and swept the Badgers, who have been a very, very good team in college this year. So good times. We'll see.

[Yandel]

McKenna put up his first hat trick. Hello, CAA. This past week.

[Whitney]

That was one play knocked it out of the. I think he knocked a clearing attempt out of midair, ended up scoring.

[David Andrews]

Just.

[Whitney]

Yeah, he's really turned it on. I think a lot of times you go to world juniors and you just feel good about yourself coming back, right. You get, maybe you gain a little confidence. You're not playing against 23, 24 year old men during that tournament. I know it didn't go as Canada hoped, but they still were able to get a Gavin McKenna back at Penn State who looks like a different player, so. And see that.

[Biz]

And his line mates back too. Remember the coach? When we interviewed the coach, Kabashu, his linemate had been on. I forget his name.

[David Andrews]

Aiden Fink, from. He plays for Nashville or he's a Nashville draft pick.

[Biz]

Yeah, he, he had like a messed up thumb. So he's got his line mate back. You're gonna see more, you know, more skill playing with him too. So I'm sure that feels good for him to, you know, get back to where he was in the beginning of the year.

[Whitney]

Yeah, And G, I believe you took a little heat online. Saw a retweet of your tweet that was semi viral in which you said, this should be the spot where the Penguins play the Capitals with a, you know, a video of how the rink looks at Beaver Stadium. And immediately, you know, people were like, gee, it's. It's in Pennsylvania. You think it'd be Pittsburgh?

[David Andrews]

Don't give a. I think Cross Crosby. Novechkin has been the best rivalry in hockey for the past 20 years. They saved the game of hockey. Like, what they've done for the game of hockey has been incredible. Give the. It's.

[Biz]

It's.

[David Andrews]

Let's call spade a spade. It's Ovechkin's last year. Like, we all know it's Ovechkin's last year.

[Ra]

Give him the outdoor game.

[David Andrews]

Give him the outdoor game at Penn Stadium. I want a white out with everyone screaming for ovet.

[Biz]

Should do it in Moscow. If it's for him, do it in Moscow. Outdoor game in Moscow for OVI.

[David Andrews]

A couple of years ago at. At Giant Stadium, they did two outdoor games. They had the.

[Ra]

It was the Rangers, the Devils, the Islanders.

[David Andrews]

They all got to play. So do another game with the Flyers. Let the Flyers go play the Rangers and do two games at Beaver Stadium. But it needs to be Crosby, it needs to be Ovechkin, and it needs to be outdoor.

[Whitney]

And. And, yeah, I mean, I think it needs to be Mechkov. I'm with the Philly fans. Give Mechkov ice time. Give him an outdoor game. Give him everything he needs. And. And if you think otherwise, you're a scumbag, dirt bag, idiot. But can't wait to get out there. Can't wait to get out there. Thursday night, boys. We were on coast to Coast. It began with a bang. Andy Petrillo. She called me Ray Whitney. Very funny. Very funny video. Based on the fact the second that she said Ray, Keith was doing windmill pumps and celebrations like he just scored an overtime winner in the Stanley cup final. Biz was laughing, and I was the butter joke once again. Now I'll say I don't mind being called Ray Whitney. Ray Whitney, who then called in. In a cabin call to our show, one of the funniest guys of all time, an incredible hockey player, over a thousand points Stanley cup champ. So you want to call me Ray? I'll take it. But Andy thought, she's gonna get to redo the intro. She's like, okay, let's start over. No, no, no, no, no. That's not how Chiclets works.

[David Andrews]

Well.

[Yandel]

And we didn't have time because we show up 15 minutes before we go on.

[Biz]

Cassie Campbell texted me. She was like, it was so much better that it was live. I'm like, it wasn't live. We just made them make that. The one take that we did.

[Whitney]

TV people are like, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's got to be live. You always redo it. No, we don't redo things here. We up so constantly. Constantly and so often. If we were redoing things, we'd be on episode seven still take. Take it again.

[Yandel]

Yeah, we'd still be doing it. Yeah. No, no. That was a blast, boys. I love doing those coast to coast. It's so laid back, you know, full night of hockey. We had some pretty good games. Probably the. The Buffalo, Montreal. The most meaningful, I would say. And then it's funny because I ended up seeing Wizard a couple days later. I ended up going to the Bear Jackson because my bud quack sister sells a bunch of cars there. I think he sold like 55, 60 cars. And he. It's just growing every year. It's kind of like the. The golf tournament, the Open.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Yandel]

Every year you go, it seems a little bit more energetic. They got these crazy cars. I think Chevrolet had this one of one that they made and they did it actually for. For all the first responders for 911. And I want to say the car went for just under $3 million. And you get to go to the whole Chevy experience. They bring you there. You get to around their track. So that was pretty cool. Obviously. Always a blast hanging out with Wiz. He looks great, man. He looks younger than when we play with him with the tan that he's got and all the golfing he's doing. And then this is. This is a crazy one, boys. So Francesco Accolini is there. He's always there buying cars every year. So I bump into him again and he pulls me aside. He goes, hey. He goes, we're going to go full rebuild for the first time. I go, no way. You're doing it. You're really pulling the trigger. He goes, there's only one way I'm doing it, though, is if you're the guy behind the wheel. And I said, francisco offered the gig. I got offered the gig.

[Whitney]

And I'm like, GM or president.

[Yandel]

I know. I. And I'm like, I. I don't know if I'm ready to leave the podcast. He said, you could still do the pod.

[Biz]

Okay.

[Whitney]

We will have real insider information with The Canucks.

[Biz]

But he doesn't. He doesn't fish for it, though.

[Yandel]

What do you mean?

[Biz]

No, you always say that. I know, I know.

[Ra]

You always say that.

[Yandel]

It just comes stuff.

[Whitney]

It just comes downstream. It's right into my eardrum.

[Yandel]

It's like six Irish travelers. It just shows up unexpected. And I, I said, I'm an ambassador for the Toronto Maple Leafs. And he's like, that is one thing that's going to be a problem. And I, I said, I don't think I can do it. I don't think I can do it. Although we got our head coach with 50 zippers in his head. We got our second best player flipping off the cameras. We got fucking Mitchie Marner coming back to town. We got all the drama in the world. And maybe that would make me want to leave, but I can't do it. Then. Then he buys a $1.5 million Ferrari and tries to proposition me with it. And I said, I. I can't be bought. I can't be bought. Maybe other companies can, but you can't.

[Whitney]

That thing would fit in the bed of your monster energy truck.

[Yandel]

That's. That's true. I could. I could tow it around.

[Whitney]

Tow that thing around. Stop.

[Ra]

Stop.

[Yandel]

So I left it at. I'm honored, but I can't accept. So that's where it's been left off. So I don't know right now if Vancouver is going to go through with the rebuild because he told me the only guy behind the wheel that was going happen, if it happened, it was going to be me. So that's where we left things off. But it was great seeing him.

[David Andrews]

He looked great.

[Biz]

Do you think that meant that for you to come in and really tank.

[Whitney]

This team or in the lineup. You mean play him?

[Yandel]

I think meant whatever I can do to tank it. Hopefully get Gavin McKenna, which I'm. I know that he spends a ton of time in bc, especially in the summer, so I probably will be training him in the summer like I did bar to change his, turn his career around. But as of right now, I. I just. I just. I can't do it. And. And I don't know if now that he's going to commit to a feat. Full rebuild. So all the people, all my friends in Vancouver, all my. My fans at the Arbutus Club, I. I hate to let you down, at least as of right now, but my bond is still too strong with the Toronto mate belief. So that's where I'm gonna leave things. And I'm sorry to Francesco for. For telling the story publicly, but I just, I felt that I had to.

[Whitney]

So I want to get into the Leafs in a little bit because I want to go over a couple things coast to coast. But you brought up Aquilini and him offering you the gig. I saw some tweets and I don't know if these are legit. It was talking about Keaton Verhoff, the defenseman who's a top prospect for this draft at North Dakota. I think he's got like 17 or 18 points already, which would be the most points. Like basically his point per game pace is the best in 50 years for a draft eligible defenseman in NCAA. And that Vancouver has had many meetings talking about him. Right. He's a Western Canadian. Boy. If they don't get first, or even if they get first, maybe he's their man. So the fact that maybe these tweets aren't real, maybe it was a fake account, but Vancouver's very open and willing and if you watch the team play, it's obvious they are going to be a lottery team. Will they get their first ever? I think it'd be their first. First overall pick ever. Is that correct?

[Yandel]

Yeah, they've never had a first overall. Yeah, I don't. So they had a second and third overall pick that was.

[Whitney]

Yeah, they had second and then Berkey made that trade to get the third. To get both of them. But Vancouver, yeah, far and away the worst team in the league. It's going to be a long road. Pasha said they wouldn't do a full rebuild, but buying a new Ferrari biz hurt otherwise. So very kind of interesting storyline to keep.

[Yandel]

Well, I would, if I did take the gig, I would hire Pasha as analytics guy. He's local, he'll be cheap, but he'll.

[Whitney]

Try to ruin you. He hates the Canucks.

[Yandel]

Yeah, but not if he's under the payroll.

[Whitney]

True.

[Yandel]

And he has strong ties there now that he's dating his girl from there. So I think things are turned. He was at the game the other night, scouting. Mind you, it was New Jersey playing. I believe that they pulled off the 54 victory. Cody Glass continued.

[Whitney]

This guy's unreal.

[Yandel]

He's having a. I'm happy for the kid, man. He's such a good kid. We interviewed him on TNT at one point. I think he was with Pittsburgh when that went down. Yeah, it's just nice to see him finding a great landing spot and he's. He's getting it done. I think he's got. I want to say he's got like Seven goals over his last nine games. Or at least that was after the, the New Jersey one. But he said biz, okay, I understand that you're going to stay loyal to the Leafs, but what would be the one move you'd make? And I'd say I go all in on me golf. They took Rick Talkett from us. Then I'm going to take Mitch God back. That would be the cornerstone move that would make to get this organization back to where it needs to be. And that's just my two cents. And I'm not going to charge you a Ferrari for it.

[Whitney]

Well, we got, we got Friday's actually to get to. We got Saturday's action and God damn, where the Edmonton Oilers. Fun Saturday, but back to Thursday. Quick couple things that, that stood out to me. Steven Stamkos, a hat trick. He had a four goal game earlier. He gets a hat trick. The Preds continue to kind of stay in the mix somehow. He actually passed Marcel Dion for most power play goals all time. I think now he sits at ninth and now he's tied or actually eighth. He's tied with Mario Lemieux because he got another one this weekend and we were, we're lucky enough to have him on a cabin call and kind of wild to think about the career that he's actually had with all the expectations. First overall, the Stanley Cups, the goals and then the fact that he gets to Nashville. Last year's a disaster. And he talked about this year, it was like, oh my God, this is happening again. He's got 26 goals now. So the fact like that Pasha said, remember, I don't want him on the New Jersey Devils. That's all you need to know. All you people who hate him out there, the guy's team stinks and he doesn't want Steven Stamkos who's tied with Mario Lemieux for all time power play goals as the Predators have just shot up the rankings or the, the, you know, the standings. So that was pretty cool. Warrensky scored in a 1 nothing victory for Columbus, who keeps chugging along. I what was that, his 19th goal? I believe his 19.

[Yandel]

He's one above chicken now. Or maybe they're both tied at 19 and just to go back to Stammer and, and Nashville and how they're pouring it on, all of a sudden they've seemed to figure things out. Ryan O'Reilly, yeah, he just hit the 50 point mark very quietly getting it done. So you got to imagine that now all of a sudden are they like, hey, maybe we got Something here. Maybe we stick with these guys. I think you're shaking your head right now, Whit. I think that especially with his value being so high, if he's willing, like keep in mind this is a guy who already won a Stanley Cup. He got his Con Smythe, he's. I think he won the selkie as well that year. Maybe he doesn't want to go anywhere. He had the experiment in Toronto. It seemed like he was turned off by going into that type of media market. And I mean you could call it a clown shulk. Like I won't even deny it at this point like this. It's.

[Whitney]

This week was amazing.

[Yandel]

We got true. We Truba getting on the, the mega mix with the clown noise and Then also Evangelista, 37 points in 50 games with 30 apples. So they got some things going in the right direction there and I still don't see them squeaking in. I think they're dead to rights based on how horrendous the start was. Yans, what do you think?

[Biz]

I don't know, man. I, I think it's just hard to cone out guys like that when you got guys like stammer, you got guys, you know, even the Brady shades of the world, the O'Reilly's like, those guys know what it takes to win. They know how to, you know, get guys into the fight. They're going to get some rest because, you know, like we've talked about, they're not the youngest group, but they're going to get rest over break. So I wouldn't count them out just yet. I like the way that they're playing. They're playing. It looks like they're playing for each other. They're playing hard. Stammers leading them and, and I think anytime a guy like that is leading you at the age that he is, it's hard to have passengers and he'll get guys to, you know, up their game a little bit more and I could see them making a run.

[Yandel]

So hey, but the good news is we're talking about Nashville where probably two, three weeks ago we weren't. Yeah, they are 52 points. They're three points out of a playoff spot in San Jose's in that current last wildcard and San Jose also has a game in hand. The good news is, is that they're, you know, chasing a few teams with inexperience. Kind of like you just said, you've guys who have done it. The march of sos, the Stamcoast and stuff like that. Utah, who's Been playing great as of late. They're in that first wild card with 58 points. But San Jose unexperienced Seattle. I would consider them to be an overall inexperienced group. You think that's great.

[Whitney]

Seeing them beat the Devils on Sunday. That was awesome.

[Yandel]

It was. And then Chicago is right there below them at 50 points, so a big opportunity. I'm. I'm a little surprised by la. I thought that they would be.

[Whitney]

They got some questions, they got some.

[Yandel]

They got some question marks around them.

[Whitney]

So he's been catching a lot of heat from the Kings fans.

[Biz]

Yeah, fuck off.

[Whitney]

And that's how it works, right? No matter how good you are for no matter how many years, when the game turns a little bit, it's. It's been a rough go for him. I think at times they still kind of like, you know, question the contract. He makes a lot of money still and it's just. It's been a. It's been a weird season for la.

[Yandel]

Well, let's dive into that. I. I want to say what one point over his last 15 games. You're talk. You're talking about Drew Doughty. Now you root for a team where a defenseman, I want to say was snubbed. It wasn't the best of start for Evan Bouchard, but. But if you look at this last 15 game stretch and where Evan Bouchard has played and where do he has. And listen, I'm the biggest dowdy Glazer on the planet, dude. My fucking. Every time we talk about the guy I got carpet tunnel from the fucking circle jerk we give him. We just had him on the podcast. But I think it's obvious at this point it should it be Bouchard as opposed to him just to. With where the play's at.

[Whitney]

I'm going to go with what McDavid said after the game on Saturday night in which Evan Bouchard had three goals, three assists. He factored into all six goals. He's one of four defensemen to ever do that. Bobby Orr, Paul Coffey and ALMA Guinness. Connor McDavid after the game. And it's funny because on Thursday night when they got completely worked by the Penguins, they played the Devils. The night after the Devils played Calgary, they lost. Then they played Pittsburgh. After Pittsburgh played the Calgary, they got drummed. They gave up three goals in 30 seconds to start the game. And then McDavid in that game got a pass from booster he didn't like. He didn't like at all. It was in his feet. It was. Was it a good dish and he was giving it to him. At least from what we saw. Well after the game Saturday. McDavid said. When he is playing at the top of his game which he has now for I think 35 games roughly. You know he's been incredible. He is one of the best players in the world. Not defenseman 000 players. And you're seeing right now and you're finally seeing the Oilers. No. Not finally Because Oilers fans it's. It's. It's a love hate. A small percentage of hate. But there are times we've talked about Bacardi Boosh and it's like holy. But the good boosh. The playoff boosh. The Boosh we've seen the last two months.

[Yandel]

We love them both by the way.

[David Andrews]

He is.

[Whitney]

Yeah, he's incredible. He is absolutely incredible. He's on pace to have the most points he's ever had in his career. I believe he's now tied for the lead league in scoring by a defenseman with Makar and I think Warrenski and he's just so cool out there. I forget the defense. I think it was Ekholm saying like he can go down and score one of the nicest goals you've ever seen or he could pull a Boosh and come from behind his own net and pass it directly to the other team for a giveaway all time pizza goal. And you get to the bench and you have no clue what just happened happen. You don't know if he did something amazing and you don't know if he did something horrific Boosh style. But that is a hell of a way to play hockey. And then Boosh says like it's just I never. I try to never get too high. I try never get too low. And this is why in the playoffs when everyone's nerves get ramped up and the intensity's different and he just is like oh, I got a game tonight. Toe drag this guy at the blue line and shoot 114 miles an hour bar down. Like that guy is somebody that I think you could be jealous of in terms of being a player who maybe gets too excited when they have a stretch of games that they're playing great and then gets really down on themselves when it's a stretch of games when it's ugly. And he's just like ah, I got another game and if I make a mistake I'll next shift them. I'm going to try to make that same play and hopefully it works. So with the intensity of Leon and Conor and also a classic Clip came out. I don't think we brought it up Thursday. Did you see the linesman going up to McDavid earlier this year, like, asking what he can do with, With Leon? Did you see this clip?

[Yandel]

Is because you're saying because Leon likes to give it to the linesman.

[Whitney]

Well, he kicked Leon out of the draw.

[Yandel]

I saw the, I saw him keeled over the bench, giving it to the liney in the one clip.

[Whitney]

Yeah, yeah. And the lines. And, like, goes up to Connor and he's like, hey, what can I do to, like, maybe help out this relationship or. And, and, and Rick David says, oh, I don't know. And then, because then they had been in a beef, the way the conversation goes, he's like, yeah, you and I figured it out. It was a tough start, but the ref's like, we're doing good now, me and you. Almost like, please tell me we're doing good. And he's like, yeah, yeah, we're good now. And then he's like, Leon, he's like, I, I, I think, you know, that's just kind of how he is. Like, basically, like, he's gonna hate.

[Biz]

He's German as a center. Like, you kind of, like, gotta be buddy buddies with those linemen, right, to get kind of the little bit of an advantage.

[Yandel]

Yeah, like, boy Gordon was.

[Biz]

Yeah, boy Gordon, complete lunatic, crazy person. Like, insane human being. But, like, he would be so nice to the lines, but because he'd be like, hey, I get to move my foot a little bit closer. He's not going to kick me out. And then he'll come to the bench and yell at his own teammate.

[Yandel]

Now, I would say that Gordo there was sometimes he was coming off the ice, though, and he was shaking his head. And you the linesman.

[Biz]

Oh, yeah.

[Yandel]

So. But that the problem was, though, is, is we were in San Jose's division. Joe Thornton, like, he would. Or he would already have his stick just ready to go. Like, the ref would basically just throw it on his side.

[Biz]

Like in practice.

[Yandel]

Yeah, like, in practice, like, it's like, okay, automatic Ozone win. We're practicing the power play. So here's the Face Off. Like, sometimes you'd be going against the guys who had so much respect, and they were legends where they could do whatever, they could bag tap you before the draw, and they weren't getting kicked out. So as far as that Leon clip and his, you know, his relationships with the officials, I think when you're that handsome and that good, I think you kind of just get away with everything. So if you're the linesman, just shut the fuck up and take it, I guess.

[Whitney]

And, and Leon also, he mentioned when he returned home from Germany for personal reasons, just that, you know, things put, you know, life into perspective a lot. So I hope everything's all right with, with him and his family. Obviously, if he's saying something like that, you know, he's going through something. So, you know, any player, you're thinking about him in terms of that. But back to Boosh. Knob Block was. Knob Block was asked after the game, the six point game, you know, he kind of had like a rough start, right? And. And Nawblock said, I think you're being very nice just calling it like kind of a rough start. That's how bad it was. But he's back. The Oilers, unfortunately, like they. I don't know what it is. Them and the Blues, the only teams not to have three, three game winning streaks this season. Like, it's just weird to me. But McDavid is at a different level. McDavid, what he's doing right now, he's got 31 points in his last 11 games. He has five points that night. It's just wild and. And I saw a different tweet. So I went to the. The records of. I'm gonna find this here of the points leaders in the history of the NHL. Okay. McDavid right now sits 57th all time. He's got 1,172 points. All right, he just passed Bobby Hull. He's about to pass Sergei Fedorov, then Rod Brindemore, then Patrick Marleau, and then the list goes on and on. Right. Well, I'm going to start say with Brindamore. He had 1,184 points in 1484 games. Fedorov's right beneath him. I won't even read the points. I'll read the games. 1,248 games. Then you got McDavid. He's played 765 games.

[Biz]

Doesn't Marlowe have like 1500 games?

[Yandel]

Yeah, Marlo played over 1500.

[Whitney]

Yeah. Marlo ended up finishing with 1,779 games. That's regular season.

[Yandel]

Holy.

[Whitney]

But the McDavid aspect of the points and climbing these stats and these rankings with legend upon legend, the amount of games he's played, it's. I. I don't think people. I think people are becoming like, accustomed to what he's doing.

[Yandel]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Oh, here's. I don't want you to.

[Yandel]

Here's one for you. I believe that he now has, it might be nine or 11 consecutive 90 point season which has passed the amount of 90 point seasons that Crosby has had in his career. So we're on here given Sid the double wrister and rightfully so. Unreal two way hockey, the Stanley Cups, all the accolades carry the league. For the first 15 years he was in it. Till you have to patch off the torch to the new wave. Which he still is though.

[Biz]

He hasn't passed the torch. He's still holding it.

[Yandel]

Okay, no doubt he's still holding it. I'm just saying for the guys of like the McDavid and, and that type of stature, the Macar's, the McKinnons who are on this like even different level. But 11, you know, 11 consecutive now or sorry, Connor McDavid now is more consecutive 90 point seasons. It's 10. I was fucking right in the middle then. Sidney Crosby has total 90 point seasons across his 21 year NHL career. So that to me is a, is a fascinating stat and like you said Whit, that we've become accustomed to just be familiar with.

[Whitney]

Yeah, he's the only other guy to do it and, and actually I'm going to look up here because I don't know what is your guys guesses for how many years in a row Gretzky had over 90 points?

[Biz]

How many years did he play?

[Yandel]

16.

[Whitney]

Do you know that biz?

[Yandel]

I know, I'm just guessing.

[Biz]

I'd say however many years he played every year.

[Whitney]

6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 13. So. Oh, 90. Yeah, because 92, 93. Only played 45 games. In those 45 games he had 65 points. So hey, listen, McDavid, he's gonna be break that record.

[David Andrews]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Wow. Anytime you can break a, a Gretzky record, that's fucking insane. But yeah, Whit, I agree with you. We shouldn't get complacent on how good this guy is. He should be talked about every single podcast by every single podcaster. Like what he does and how he makes it look and what he does for his teammates. He is so fucking good. And I mean what's he in year 11, 10?

[Whitney]

Yeah, I, I, I don't even know.

[Yandel]

No, I did, I think he's probably done that the 90 points since he stepped into the league. So there you go, tenth season.

[Whitney]

No, but last year he got hurt. He got hurt his rookie year.

[Yandel]

He didn't hit the 90 pointer.

[Whitney]

No, he hit 48 points at 45 games and then he got the shoulder.

[Biz]

Trade him. Bomb trade them.

[Yandel]

Yeah, I just yeah.

[Whitney]

Have a long way to go, though. They really do.

[Biz]

Yeah, they're golden. Back to Oilers goaltender.

[Yandel]

Oh, that's got to make you sick, seeing what Skinner's doing in Pittsburgh now.

[Whitney]

This Thursday. It's incredible. It's, it's, it's bizarre. It's just like, like. And then Jari's let in in the Pittsburgh game where they got completely worked. But hey, we won Saturday, so it's like, boosh.

[David Andrews]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Win or lose, you're onto the next one, you're onto the next shift, you're onto the next toe drag, you're on the next goal, you're on the next pizza. It doesn't matter. But it is. It was pretty sick to see what he did against Washington. Washington also, that's kind of. They got a weird season going on. They're not loving life right now. And they started slow and then got it going. I was like, all right, here they come. And it's just been, been inconsistent from, from the Capitals all year, but another team that I want to talk about is the Detroit Red Wings. And this became a conversation for us. I think it was after the show or before the show, on the way to. It was, it was.

[Yandel]

No, it was, I think it was after the coast to Coast. And you were like, man, I wish we were able to record after these because, like, the hockey combo is top of mind. All those games are. And then we could record that night and then boom, Friday morning, you know, every, we could discuss everything and, and it, it got, it went back to the conversation of last year. After the season. Larkin was basically asked about how he thought things went. And I think he, he just, he was a little frustrated that they didn't add at the deadline.

[David Andrews]

Right.

[Yandel]

And, and they, they were hoping for a little boost just to get him over the edge to get all these younger players. And of course, Dylan Larkin, who I believe hasn't been in the NHL playoffs since his first year, maybe first or second year, and, and rightfully so, because I feel like he's been brunting a lot of the, you know, a lot of the weight of what they've been doing over there, especially the last four or five years. You know, he's automatic 30 goal guy playing all situations, ended up having a great four nations last year. And he's thinking, fuck, man, I'm hungry for some competitive hockey. And I think that, that, But Stevie Y did a great job of de. Escalating and just being like, no, you know, I, I, I can understand his frustration. He's been waiting A long time. But we have a plan here. And we're not just going to trade assets for rentals. And it made you be like, but what about this year? What do you make of this year? Everything they've done, the position that they're in, are they going to make a move to better this roster, to take a run at the East? And I'll throw it over to you.

[Whitney]

Where they have to. And this is, this is, I think, what Stevie Iserman had in mind. Although I'll say, I still think if you were to ask him, truthfully, like, we're not quite there yet. Like, I don't think this is when it's like, all right, all in prospects. The thing is though, they have all their picks. Like the next few years, they have tons of prospects, including two big time goalie prospects. So that's something where all of a sudden we can dangle or trade one of these guys. We still got another, whether it's Augustine or Caso, whatever his name is, who's lighting up the ahl. So now they do have a ton available. Do you think it's time that we can win? Maybe not to go all in, but with what they've done this year, they're leading the Atlantic Division. With what Tampa's done, they're still leading that division. All right, we got to do something. So we started throwing around names and if you look at the roster where it's another center, okay, you could talk about on, on D, but if you were to grab. And I said Nazem Kadri now Nazem Kadri. Every team needs a center, it seems like. And I love this guy and I love him in the playoffs even more. Minus the suspensions that he sometimes took with the Maple Leafs. That basically was the reason they traded him. But that is a guy where you look at their top six and right now cops the second line center. If you can just slide all that down and you get Kadri playing with the Brinkett and Kane, it's like, holy shit. That's when it's like, wow, he's got three more years. It's only 7 million. So you know, Yzerman wants term. That's a guy. And then another guy I mentioned and.

[Yandel]

Just going back to Cadre quickly. He wasn't wrong. He was just early because the that he was doing to get suspended. That would be a two minute minor for the Florida Panthers the last couple runs. Let's get that straight. Okay, you heard, hey, you're laughing with. But fuck you. If that was the one hit on.

[Whitney]

The boards at the Garden. Who did he get in Boston on the boards? That was. That. That was. I don't. I don't know if a Panthers, if.

[Yandel]

He was a Florida Panther the last.

[Biz]

Two years for that wit. You know who I would like to see there? Because he's got some ties to Detroit. He left his home of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, when he was 14, 15 years old. He met his lovely wife when he was in Detroit playing for the Little Caesars or whatever team he was playing for. Vincent Trocheck, a centerman, a guy who's on a dumpster fire of a team right now, the New York Rangers, A guy that, you know, he's kind of at that point in his career, like, do I want to stay here or do I want to go somewhere and try to win? He's familiar with the place. He likes it. His wife likes it. She'll be comfortable. He can win you some draws.

[Yandel]

Okay, so. So both guys you just mentioned. I would believe our second line center like Kadri with where he's at, clearly a second mind center. Tro. I think he's a second mind center. Great penalty killer. Good D zone draws.

[Whitney]

They both have three years left.

[Yandel]

Both. Both have three years left. So they have term. I believe that Trojax under him. Trojax, about a million and a half cheaper would be my guess. But, like, what about, first of all, what do you think you'd have to give up for those guys? And what about trying to kick tires on another Swede? They love their Swedes. What about Elias Pedersen as a first line center? And all of a sudden Larkin gets to go down the second line.

[Whitney]

No, Larkin stays one. He could put. That's like interchangeable one, sure, okay, fine, that's interchangeable. But, dude, I don't hate that either. Now, I'll say this. This is a theory that came into my head and I tried to brush it out of my head. I said, get out of my thoughts. Get out of my brain. Is there a chance that Steve Yzerman is thinking, well, I could go get some of these guys. I could make a, you know, a run at Elias Petters. I don't know if he loves his game. I don't know if he wants to pay that contract with all the years left and all the money. I don't know if he likes Kadri. I don't know if he likes Trocheck. But what if he's saying, well, I think in two years, Connor McDavid's gonna leave the Edmonton Oilers And I think that this could be a place that Connor McDavid would be willing to play. I don't want to hear that. I don't want to think that. I don't even want to imagine that.

[Yandel]

I can't believe you're doing this to your own. You were.

[Whitney]

I'm not doing it to my team. I'm trying Stevie's brain and thinking he's got two more years.

[Yandel]

You can't get in Stevie Yzerman's fucking brain.

[Whitney]

No, I can't. But I had his jersey when I was a little boy skating around dreaming of being number 19 on the Detroit Red Wings.

[Yandel]

So if you're saying that wit, and I agree with you, they're setting themselves up perfectly. They have a ton of money, and then you're basically saying that they got to stay patient. Now, I was going to go back to your original comment, but if, if they don't do anything and they keep the same roster that has got them in this situation by staying patient, if any one of their fans and that fan base wants to question what he's doing, including Dylan Larkin, I would say you're a fucking moron.

[Biz]

No, can't question.

[Yandel]

Look at what they've done now. Since he didn't make a move, he's allowed.

[Whitney]

If they get in. If they don't get in and he doesn't do anything, I think the fans have a, have a. Yeah, well, I don't think, I think they're, they're in.

[Yandel]

I mean, I don't think there's a chicken dicks chance they miss playoffs.

[Biz]

You have to, at some point, whether he thinks they're, you know, ready to win right now. Like the guys on that roster have to get a taste of the playoffs. They have to get a feel of what it's like because realistically, not a ton of the guys on that roster have played in the playoffs. So even if you think, hey, we're not going to win it, like, we might get bounced in the first round. You got to get those reps in. You got to get the taste of it.

[Whitney]

Yeah, you got to get in and play. I know. You have to get in and, and fail a couple times.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

I mean, Sid only had to fail. He failed twice. So he lost first round, then he lost Cup Final. But yeah, you need the experience now. I, I, I actually could be open and honest in saying I think McDavid's leaving Edmonton after this contract. I, I mean, do you guys think I'm crazy saying that?

[Yandel]

I don't want that to happen that you're crazy for. For. Like, I would never talk about Matthews leaving you.

[Biz]

I mean, you ran Martyr out of town.

[Yandel]

Oh, yeah. Do you see Elliot Freeman's article?

[Biz]

Yeah, he at least. He at least waited till he was gone article.

[Yandel]

I'm happy he's gone. I'm. And I'm happy for Mitch that he's happy. He obviously couldn't handle the big smoke. Don't try to deflect the bullshit on me.

[Whitney]

You can't say I'm sitting here podcasting. I'm not hoping that this happens. I'm thinking realistically, I'm thinking, all right, he signed a short. He signed a two year extension. He had one year left on the old deal. He's got three years left as an Oiler. I hope not. I'm just thinking out loud as a podcaster. And then I look at Detroit, I look at Detroit and I look at this team that really will be ready to win then. And it's close to Toronto and it's not Canada and it's the history and its original six. I'm just throwing out thoughts, but why not build?

[Biz]

Why not? If you're even thinking you have a chance to get them, why not start building towards that too?

[Whitney]

They are.

[Biz]

You mentioned they had the two good goalies in, in their prospect pool. Like, look at what Florida did when they had Spencer Knight and Levi. They traded Levi and they got Reinhardt for him. So you can, if you have a good goalie prospect, you can get a guy that can help you right away. John Gibson has been unbelievable this year. Awesome.

[Whitney]

But he's not the future.

[Biz]

Is he gonna be? Yeah, exactly. So you need one of those guys to hopefully stick around, pan out. But I think, why not just start now? I mean, obviously I'm definitely not questioning Stevie Y in anything that he does, but it's like, let's get this going. Let's reward the guys for what they've done, what they've, you know, shown us this year, and get it going and I think even get it going now before Olympics starts.

[Yandel]

I wonder, I wonder if we could put packages together. What Red Wings fans would. Would want. Like, would they want to take the leap on Elias Patterson?

[Biz]

Do you think that they would rather trocheck or cadre?

[Yandel]

You think that they would prefer a little bit lower risk in a sense of term, and then also money to fill in that second slot than getting a guy like Pedersen where, I mean, he's, he's hit that hundred point mark. He probably would feel a lot more at home and comfortable around other Swedes. I mean he's got Lipstrom there. As far as like a guy in the brass who could probably, you know, talk to him, take him out to dinner, make him feel more, more, more, more acclimated. I, I don't mind that. But you know what I tell you is more likely than all of those scenarios is Warrensky when he's up. I think he's got one year left after this year. Maybe, maybe he's got two.

[Whitney]

But are we turning Detroit into a superpower like they were in the late 90s?

[Yandel]

I just think based on the way that Iserman has done things and how much money they have remaining and what he's done with these younger players and how they're going to keep developing, you talk about needing a, like, let's talk about what you need to win a Stanley Cup. You need a true number one center. I think that Larkin has proved that he's a number one. I think that with what he's done, maybe he's not the 100 point guy, but he's, he's a great two way. He's, he's basically playing it like Crosby. He might not wow you with the 150 point like McKinnon numbers, but he's going to get you both two way hockey.

[Biz]

He's going to get you.

[Whitney]

What about like Bergeron? Like I hate comparing people to Bergeron.

[Yandel]

That's a great comparison that shows up.

[Biz]

Every night, does his job.

[Yandel]

Yeah, you need a true number one D man. Marit Cider has proved this year that he's a number one. This year he's made that jump where I would say that. How many would you say true number ones now there are in the league demon 12?

[Biz]

Yeah, I was going to say 10.

[Whitney]

Yeah, I was, I was gonna, I was gonna, I was gonna say 10. But yeah, there's probably because hey, say what you want, Evan Bouchard's the number one D man.

[Yandel]

He's the number one number one.

[Whitney]

Two years left biz.

[Biz]

Just to be clear, I think, I think Warinsky's a from start to finish a Columbus, a Columbus blue jacket. I think he's one of those guys gets his jersey retired there what he's meant to that organization. But he is he not, he's from Detroit, so it does make sense.

[Yandel]

He's from Michigan. Listen, and I, I, I think he's going to honor the contract that he signed. I don't, I, I think that there's probably less likelihood that weren't Speaker 2 ends up in Detroit before the end of his deal.

[Biz]

But, but him and Connor the same summer. Imagine they just like, hey, where should we go?

[Yandel]

But that's. I would. Yeah. And I would say that they're both good enough guys. They're, they're both great guys to where they'll say, hey, things are I, I. Edmonton's going to have a chance to make a run every year that he's there with the team that they have Warrensky. If they go through another year where they don't make playoffs, let's say they don't make it this year and, and next year at the deadline, it's not looking like they're going to make playoffs. Wouldn't he just. They'd say, get what you can. For me, I think that, that Warrensky ending up there is more likely than McDavid ending up there. I'll leave it at that.

[Whitney]

Yeah, I'm just, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to think of a way that Detroit fans would just be over the moon. I mean it's, it's, it's a team that. It's been a while but the patience is showing that it looks that it. I think the patience now Eisenman shown when you see the prospects. Max plant's leading the NCAA and scoring. They drafted Carter Bear 13th overall. They got the two goalies like they could make some moves here. That's all we're trying to say.

[Yandel]

I, I wonder, I wonder if Panarin knowing that he could probably sign a long one. He wouldn't get the money that he wants in Detroit. I'm curious to know if Stevie would even want him based on how he's played later into playoff rounds as they get into the conference finals, they have that Casper kid playing the left or at least the last few games that I saw playing that left side because I don't know if they trusted him. In that second line center slot they have J.T. comper and who's the other guy? I'm drawing a blank. Another Michigan kid played in New York. Cop. Andrew Cop. I wonder if Panarin's a righty who plays the left side. I'm curious to know if they would be like if Red, Red Wings fans would want him because right now in on that line you have Larkin and on the, on the other side you have a playmaking winner winger in Raymond like is is is getting Panarin and spending money there overkill for that line and sodding in that role. I don't know.

[Whitney]

What do you guys think it came out that, it came out that the Rangers want the same exact or you know, obviously not the same exact, similar package to what Brock Nelson got. Hey, by the way, Brock Nelson, I think scores every game now. Yeah, 25 games.

[Yandel]

Got two the other night.

[Whitney]

It's crazy to see like how good this guy's been. And that could end up being a great trade for Colorado and the Islanders. But they got Caleb Callum, Richie, I think they got a first round pick and then who else did the Islanders get? But it was a, it was a nice deal and that's what the Rangers want for Panarin. Panarin has a lot of control. Panarin, I, he won't get a long term deal, will he?

[Biz]

Like I'd say five years.

[Whitney]

I don't even know about five years.

[Yandel]

I would say that, that if he wants to win and still make decent money, I would say a four year deal in Detroit, just like the Brinkett signed would be, would be nice. If he wants to go sign his eight year, make as much as he can and ride off to the sunset, I get it. But those can be long, miserable years where I'm saying if he wants to still make good money and go on a four year rip, I think Detroit's an unreal landing spot.

[Biz]

Yeah, I think, I think he's going to Carolina, like another great one every. I feel like, you know, they have a good history of trading together. Like they must have good relationships. I could see him going to Carolina over Detroit right now.

[Yandel]

A lot of speculation around Detroit, but I agree with you guys. The east is still up for grabs. And with a few crafty moves, with what they have available, available, prospect wise and pick wise, all of a sudden they could end up being the front runner. And especially if you're in a situation where if Florida goes on a run and they end up meeting Tampa on the first round, you're licking your chops. Go beat the fucking wheels out of each other. You win the Atlantic, you play a wild card first round and then you try to get a beat up Panthers or Tampa team.

[Biz]

Has Detroit not made the playoffs since they went to the East?

[Whitney]

They haven't made the playoffs since 15 years.

[Yandel]

Maybe since the building open or no, 11. 11 or 12 years.

[Biz]

Right, but. Cause I know obviously they were in the west before. Have they made it as a team in the East?

[David Andrews]

They last made the playoffs in 2015, 2016 when they were eliminated by the Tampa Bay Lightnings.

[Yandel]

All right, so yeah, so they were in the East.

[Whitney]

It's nine years in a Row, not in the playoffs. So they don't want to hit that double digit mark. Florida too. Like, I think they won. They won Sunday. Who did they beat? The Blackhawks.

[Biz]

They won the last two Thursday.

[Whitney]

I want to say for anyone who, who maybe didn't see it or saw it, the worst hockey game I've ever seen. It was 1:1 going into OT. I think the shots were 18, 18 in Winnipeg. They got the win, but oh my God, for the jets fans, and I.

[Biz]

Know three in a row they've won.

[Whitney]

There's jets fans listening right now who were at that game. That, that, that, that was, that was the worst game I've ever seen.

[Biz]

Wait, they didn't get their money back?

[Ra]

I don't know.

[Whitney]

Hopefully they did. Yeah. That's one where as you leave, I, I believe that Manchester City in the Premier League recently gave fans their money back after a game they said, that was so disgusting. You didn't deserve to watch that. Take your pounds back and we apologize.

[Yandel]

So I love that move.

[Whitney]

Yeah. Very classy. Very classy.

[Yandel]

Wit's actually going to be reimbursing all of you Gargoyles fans for the whole season for your season tickets based on how some of these games got. So very nice of him. Nice gesture.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Also, Brock Nelson, he's got the most goals in the NHL since right after Thanksgiving. So that's two month stretch where this guy just is scoring it. Well, pretty cool to see.

[Biz]

I couldn't believe. What is it, like 25 goals in 29 games. I couldn't believe that. I know.

[Whitney]

I saw that.

[Biz]

Too many games since, like 29 games since Thanksgiving seems ridiculous.

[Whitney]

The schedule in these Olympic years is. I feel for the players and there'll be people. Why do you feel bad for these guys? They make so much money. I get it, dude. Playing and realizing like what it takes to get ready each and every game and then to have it all come condensed for these Olympic years. You see the injuries and you're like, jesus, I can't wait for the games and I can't wait to watch Olympic hockey. Best on best, but holy, is this a grind for players. So, yeah, I didn't know that they'd played that many games since, Since Thanksgiving either. Vegas, they've. They've been playing pretty well like overall lately. The last 10 games, the last few games has been ugly. They went into Boston, went down four, Nothing made it a game. Lost four, three. Then they went into, they went into Toronto. And I think this was a pretty cool moment for the Vegas Golden Knights. Shocking I thought it would really get them going. They got crushed by Ottawa Sunday 7 1. And I think Cassidy called him out after. He's like, this is. I don't know if it's we're not practicing enough or we're just never ready to play, but he was disgusted. But that game in Florida, and I'll give it to Biz after this. What they showed as a team for Mitch Marner was so impressive. And it started with Kolasar ripping the jersey that said, I think Trader 16 Trader or something like that. He ripped it out of the kid's hands, threw it on the ground so Marty couldn't see it. Oldies hanging over the glass. But then the, the. The video from Marner started to play and that team, when that video started, they got up and they were banging the boards as loud as you could imagine. And it made me think. It goes back. Eichel's been through this. Eichel went through this in Buffalo and I, and I guarantee he said to everyone like I know what this is all about and I know how ridiculous this could be and we're going to have his fucking back tonight. And I did respect Leafs fans because they booed him every, every time he touched the puck. But they did cheer for the video.

[Yandel]

It felt like they gave him a standing oh.

[Whitney]

They showed the respect for the video and what he did all those years in Toronto and the great hockey he played. But Vegas as a team, they went in there and they worked the Leafs. The Leafs in, in probably the most hyped up game of the year. Not probably, definitely. They had nothing. Toronto look, that was disgraceful as a Maple Leafs fan to see the effort that they gave and to. For Vegas to get together around Marner and rip down the jersey and cheer him on. That was good. That's why I was so shocked about the loss. But Biz, you could go in. Elliot drops just a bombshell of an article Thursday.

[Yandel]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

And. And it only just. God, it put more, it put more fire on those flames going into that game.

[Yandel]

Yeah, I, so I didn't really. I didn't know the extent of it like of what Elliot talked about in the other. I don't think anyone did majority majority of it. Like obviously we'd heard that they, they tried trading him and then he declined it and that whole rotten in business more about just like the, the, like the bonuses out of the entry level contract that he might have been still upset about. And keep in mind like, like obviously Elliot did his, his due diligence and talked to Everybody and found out. I'd be curious to know what Mitch's side of it is, but I think it's fair to say that Mitch kind of grew up a hockey God around Toronto and you know, and he's kind of, you know, he, he, he, he delivered as far in a sense of like what he brought regular season wise. And I just think that when you live in that type of bubble and everybody and all your friends telling you how amazing you are the time, sometimes you can, there, there is a little bit of separation from reality. And I don't know if there are a lot of guys that have been in a situation that Mitch has been in playing in your hometown, delivering what he did regular season wise, like making all the money, being under the microscope. Not only that too like playing with the London Knights. So probably being already, I guess, accustomed to being under the microscope, especially for playing junior. One of the things the article kind of referenced and once again, like, I don't know if this is true and he had these types of feelings where Mitch got sent back to junior his last year where he absolutely dominated MEM cup, won it with Kachuk, who was the other four other guys who.

[Biz]

Mvp, Christian Dvorak, Krisha Dvorak was there.

[Yandel]

He was the MVP of that. So obviously if you're looking at it from a development standpoint, it seemed to have worked out. Another thing that he was upset about was the fact that they were adamant and I believe he signed his contract like five days after that. Lou had been fired. So maybe this was something that they were trying to instill throughout the organization where there was not these high end bonuses for, for entry level contracts. Well then obviously Austin ended up going first overall and then getting them all. So he's being like, well he fucking got him. When all of a sudden the, the M.O. that we got was that this just doesn't happen here. So. But then again, like he was a first overall pick. And I think that Matthews, from an overall play perspective, like I, oh fuck. I think he's a better player and he deserves to make more money. That's just me. Anyway, what do you guys think?

[Biz]

Yeah, I, I agree with you too. And usually that's why it would be good to get Mitch's perspective from this because usually guys know who's supposed to be getting paid the most. Who's, you know, guys don't, in the NHL don't really get too bent out of shape about that. It's like, okay, if you're in Florida, Barky's your best player. He's going to make the most like and then it kind of trickles down. So it, I kind of find that hard to believe unless I'm completely ignorant to the whole situation. But, but it would be interesting to know for him the bonus thing. Yeah. They mentioned that they weren't going to be given the bonuses because they wanted to be at the cap which as a player I get too in with the signing bonuses nowadays. Like it's not life changing money where you know you're signing your contract like in the NFL where that's like where you make the majority area of money. It's kind of just little bonuses, you know, 250 grand you can make. Like if that's the difference between being on a team that's going to be spending to the cap, you know, making it to the playoffs, I mean, losing first round, but whatever. It's one of those things that I as a player I'd be like okay, I'd rather, you know, have the team be better because at the end of the day when your team's better, it's going to help you in your next contract get more money. Yeah, exactly.

[Yandel]

So which it did, which he got top end dollar at that point and didn't even sign an eight year deal.

[Whitney]

So he, that, that was the thing to me on that article like which by the way I think I said add flames to the fire. Like that's already a fire gas to the fire. Like it's incredible the we say sometimes but I. Dude, he had like when the new negotiation kind of began or possibly began for when he ended up leaving. How was all this stuff on his mind still?

[Yandel]

Like that's, that's what, that's why him to, to and whether he would be truthful about it or not, it's just like it sounds pretty petty and, and also in a sense of you're talking about the dollar amount for bonuses. Yan's I would say entry level deal now maybe by the time it's all said done you can make an extra three, maybe $4 million.

[Biz]

Oh really?

[Whitney]

I didn't even know it was that much.

[Yandel]

Over the, over the course of three year entry level. That's, that's what I, that's. I mean we can get more information from G. But also everything I talked and Describable Mitch, the amount of money that, because he's under that microscope being the local kid, being the superstar, the guy who was making the all star, he could have easily made that off the ice, which I'm sure he did. So that's where it's like, oh man, we're talking about like maybe a million years later, 10 years later, a million or two, and the fact that at that point you probably already have 100 sheets, if not at least 85, 90 in the bank, knowing that you're also going to get another hundred million dollars wherever else you go. So it, it's, I guess it's, it's just weird to where the relationship got here. Here is where they made the mistake. And you could say hindsight, but if I am, if I am aware of all this information going on behind the scenes and maybe how big of a pain in the ass it is Shanahan was trying to keep him because you don't get rid of guys like that and how do you replace them? You, you have to get everything you can to, to get rid of him. And I'm sure there's a lot of teams that would have sent a lot of amazing, amazing packages rather than leaving at the chance that he's going to come back knowing all the headaches off the ice and the fact that it seems like there's animosity money wise. Right? Am I, am I crazy here? Wit, before it seems like no move clause kicks in, you gotta look to move him. And I think that that was a big argument between Dubas and Shanny. And if Dubas was on the side of, we got to get what we can for this guy and build around.

[Whitney]

The other superstars, we're not sure he's going to resign. Like we don't know. So we kind of can't risk that.

[Yandel]

Then, then Shanny was wrong in that instance and, and Dubas was right. And it's easy to look back and say that now, but I had no idea that any of the, like 80% of what was in that article. I had no idea that that was going down.

[Biz]

So I imagine like Elliot is, you know, the top guy, like he did his homework.

[Yandel]

Emotion.

[Biz]

Yeah, everything is, you know, you take what he says as correct, but it's all it could. Maybe it's one of those things where when he was looking to leave, he's looking at the pros and cons of everything. And those are just kind of things. Like, okay, that's just another like check mark on the, on the cons where you're checking off the pros. I, I don't know, I just find it hard to believe that a guy would be still that mad about it 10 years later when you've made 80, $90 million.

[Whitney]

But you'd also find it hard to believe that a guy that's that good at hockey and that gifted would be reading comments about himself which is what the article says and I guess like having gone through it we're like and.

[Yandel]

And or people in his orbit bringing him what was being said. So even so I think that that's where Elliot, Elliot did a good job being like man, even when if, if he was shutting down the apps, it's hard. You're getting texts. Hey, do you see what was said about you? Hey, look at what this guy's saying. I mean talk radio in Toronto, like there was probably, he'd probably have a five point night and they were still fine negatives to talk about in some cases with him.

[Whitney]

But what kind of buddies are texting you Agencies.

[Biz]

Seriously?

[Whitney]

Like I didn't need to see that one bud.

[Yandel]

I think it's pretty well documented that is his father was pretty involved at least at a younger age. And, and, but, but with everything that said, I'm really happy that he's been able to get out of Toronto and go start a life and live, live a normal life outside the rink and then show up and get the play to the level that he plays now. Like I don't, I don't. I would have not booed. I don't hold any animosity towards him. It's frustrating to seem that he was a little bit, he was mentally checked out by, by after four nations it seems like he was a little bit mentally checked out in the sense where he was starting to vet other destinations. Vegas being the most likely.

[Biz]

Well they were asking him for to move his no trade.

[Yandel]

No, they did. They did.

[Biz]

Yeah. So you got to be thinking that yeah.

[Yandel]

Oh, oh you're I think that didn't they ask him for the rank organization and you're asking a guy and, and if you're being offered a contract or at least to start negotiations and you're like no, I want to wait to the off season. I think that in that case it's fair for the team to say hey, well considering you're not going to give us security, do you mind if we get something for you in return and you can get whatever you want whether that's we can move you to the west. And then once again in the article it says well Vegas wasn't willing to put a, a hefty package together because I think that they were aware that they were going to be able to attract so that's where it's like ah, is his agent talking to, to Vegit probably Probably. Which a. If you want to call fair game, that's fine, but for a team that drafted you and did everything you did, you're a local kid, you're playing with superstars. If I don't know if that's the type of loyalty you're showing to that team, I'm okay saying, hey, can we trade you and can you, can you waive this? But too little, too late because they had the opportunity to that summer before. Before it kicked in. So. So once again, I'm not holding any animosity toward him, but as if. If hardcore Leaf fans want to think that he was checked out and thought that he was getting the short. Him thinking that he got the short end of the stick and being poopy pants, all that, if they want to boo him, they want to hold animosity. I also get that side of it too.

[Biz]

Well, I think they did the right thing. They booed him when he touched the puck, which, you know, loyal fans should do. They have every right to do that. And then they cheered him when they had the, the ceremony. Of all the stuff that he brought to the team, I thought that they handled it really well. And you know, it's just kind of one of those things you got to expect to happen when you come back that the team's going to boo you.

[Whitney]

My favorite tweet about the game, Sean McIndoe. McIndew. So in the end we had a playoff atmosphere and both the Leafs and Mitch Marner did nothing. Sounds about right. And. And quickly going back to Eichel's return to Buffalo. I, I totally had forgot this quote. Just an all time Brad Marshawn level troll. Do you remember what he said after the game? He said, it's about the loudest I've ever heard this place. It only took seven years and me leaving for them to get into the game. They must just be booing me because they wish I was still here.

[Yandel]

Okay, you said a Marshaw style quote. Like.

[Whitney]

Yeah, like Marshawn level troll.

[Biz]

Oh, Jack said that. That's amazing.

[Whitney]

I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. I meant to say. Yeah, Jack said that. And then another. This was an article from the Athletic. It was talking about the most contentious returns. It was talking about Tavares going back, Fedorov back to Detroit and. And Jagger when he went back to Pittsburgh on the flyer. So he went back to Pittsburgh as a capital and as a Ranger and was booed and booed as a Flyer. He went back and was booed worse, I guess, than when it was with Washington in New York. He said, I don't get it. What kind of world are we in right now? That's fucking scary. We should be in a world with a lot of love. Instead there's one guy who's 40 years old who's almost done and he's causing all this animosity over hockey. My brain just doesn't understand that he's still playing. He went, yeah, he's still playing in check.

[Yandel]

I want it to be known though, like you guys joke about like all the fans running him out of town.

[Biz]

Like I think you.

[Yandel]

Everything I've said about Mitch Marner has been hockey related. I never cared about the off the ice stock one bit. Okay. When and in fact I glazed him and praised him a lot throughout his time with the Leafs. But I will say this. If everything about what Elliot wrote in that article and there was like pettiness about like little amounts of money compared what he ended up making for what Toronto and that environment and that organization provided him and his family family during the time there for him to make that money, complain about that petty shit and focus on the petty shit when in crunch time. Never got it done. I, I feel like he's earned those, those booze in that regard because I think we can all agree if you look at the numbers in crunch time. I'm not talking about the first round against Tampa Bay when he had 11 points the one year and was awesome him. I'm not talking about last year's first round against Ottawa. Which one? I thought that he was solid. I don't think he was all world. There were still mistakes that were made. You know, I thought he was okay against Florida. But also when it came down to closing out that series, there were times where he was put on the ice when, if you watch that is where you're going to be evaluated. When you, when you a man, when you demand the top end dollar and you bleed your team dry, your hometown team for every cent and you're petty about money, when you're making as much as you are off the ice and you don't come through in those moments, that's what you're making the top dollar for. I don't give a fuck about your hundred point regular season. I don't, I don't give a fuck about that and neither do all these fans who booed. So when you don't, people sit. Bring up the one, the seven game series against Boston. Oh well, he missed you know, three, four weeks with a high ankle sprain, buddy. It was him who came on the ice, who was just looking around and pasta blew right by him. There was no hold up there. There was no getting in his lane. Those are the minute minuscule details if you want to talk to me about a selkie trophy that you make on the defensive side of the puck. So if anyone wants to argue with me about the hockey side of it, I'll fucking stuff him in a locker. I can remember. Why are you looking at like that, Whit?

[Whitney]

It was a funny line. Jesus Christ.

[Yandel]

Oh, okay.

[Biz]

Well, I'm just ready to stuff you in a locker.

[Whitney]

You said I'll stuff you in a locker. It made me laugh.

[Biz]

What are you looking at?

[Whitney]

I thought you were ready. Yeah, you're ready to stuff yourself in a locker right now.

[Biz]

I was just take some of that hibiscus teeth I saw you gave it.

[Yandel]

One of those like, like kind of scoff looks like you were ready to argue. So I was like, okay, bring it it. Yeah. So you know, and, and that's kind of where I turned on him. Where I was like the, the, the. If you're telling me that this is a, a guy who, where you're going to have to gargle his nut saack and beg him to come back to Toronto and pay him $13 million. And I want what Austin's making because I'm you. I've seen enough in the crunch time to where I know you're not worth that. If you can go provide that in Vegas and you're happier there and you're out of the limelight and, and your teammates support you the way that maybe they didn't in Toronto and you're not dealing with the off ice criticism, bro. Go get it. All the power to you. Go have success there. Rah rah. Happy for you, man.

[Whitney]

I can't wait to see, you know his playoff performance this year. It'll be a pretty cool storyline to watch. And last thing on Toronto because we got Ra's World coming up. I love William Nylander as a player, right? Like this guy, he's incredible. He's awesome to watch. He talk about crunch time. He's probably their best player in the playoffs every year. If I'm Brad Tree living like we. We laugh and it's funny. The tank top in the press box is one thing. It's just like, it's hilarious. But like Brad Tree living, I'm sitting there and I'm like, ah, I don't know, dude. To then be sitting out injured and actually fucking flip off the cameraman. I, I think I would lose my mind as the GM of that team seeing that. And I don't, I do not think you would ever see certain guys in the NHL do this.

[Biz]

Yeah, you look at, look at Joshua and Tana. They were like, oh God, like they saw him.

[Whitney]

So like, yeah, it's just like. And dude, let's, let's, let's give everybody.

[Yandel]

Let'S give everybody context. So this was during the, the next game. So they've had a tough slate, right? So this was against Colorado and when it seemed that the game was basically done and out of hand, they turned the camera around and pan to the press box to get the guy's reaction. But like, agree with you wit, like there, there has to be a certain level of, of professionalism from the entertainment sport side of it as like a hilarious. Right? Because it's a three ring circus. You got Berube going into this whole martyr debacle.

[Whitney]

Gladiator.

[Yandel]

And he's got 50 zippers in his head.

[Biz]

Yeah. With the dumbbell had 60 stitches.

[Yandel]

I, I bet it did. I bet it did. So just if you, you add all that up in one. One side of me, I'm like, ah, whatever. That's kind of Willie being Willie. He's still going to show up with the crazy outfits and he just doesn't really give a. But then the other side is like, I don't know man. We, you just had the tank, tank top incident and we are embracing you for who you are. You, you, you tweak your fucking groin injury again after a goal where you just kind of go on the 1. Completely accidental and shitty timing. But yeah, that's where I would probably just have a sit down with him and be like, listen man, like, like this. We, we need you to be a leader in this locker room. We need this team going in a certain direction. It's been hot, cold, hot cold. We have nothing wrong with your play on the ice, but we just need you to kind of take that next level of, of maturity and not be doing stuff like that. It's just bulletin board material for the media to unleash and, and create more.

[Whitney]

So it makes it, it makes them look like a joke. And, and, and I, it was a tough week. You know, I've seen Crosby, I've seen Ryan Getzlaff, I've, I've just seen guys that have just approached like everything in such a serious professional way that it's like, as a fan, I love it. And as a former player, I'm like, that is A fucking joke, dude. Yeah.

[Yandel]

And.

[Whitney]

And I actually think the tank top is right up there. The tank top is so ridiculous. It's not the finger. I shouldn't compare the two. But, but that started it off. And then I guess he let off media today by apologizing and saying he's just, he's just frustrated he's not playing. And I know he put out an Instagram, but I was signed. I saw that. I'm like, this team is unbelievable. Their season's falling apart after, like, fighting their way back into the mix. He's in the press box.

[Yandel]

I know, but you know what? Other fans and, and, and in media have said that about this team a few times this year. They just finished their, their hardest stretch of the season. They came off that road trip and they're playing. Every team's a playoff team. They had Vegas, Colorado, Minnesota. They got Buffalo. I'm forgetting the one other team they had in the mix of that five game homestand. But it's, it's tough times. There's a little bit of adversity and sometimes ridiculous moments like this are. Are what can turn a season around. So let's hope that's the case and let's hope they, they get their bearings back. But my God, like, between the chief taking off his hat and seeing that scar, Willie flipping off the camera, Mitch coming back to town, that was, that was, that was as good as a cat soap opera. Regardless of how you feel about Toronto and how much we talk about Toronto in this podcast, they are carrying the weight of entertainment year in, year out, and, and, and you guys get to re.

[Biz]

Not for all the. Not for all the best.

[Whitney]

Yeah, I, I want to save the Bruins for ra's World, but I just quickly want to mention Evgeny Malkin is a complete machine. But I don't know if you saw the video where he's like tapped on the shoulder on the bench by Manta and immediately goes down like, like. And it's not even like a push or anything, so I don't. But he was playing in the game and scored in Vancouver, so I don't. The Penguins go on their western road trip, they win all four games. That team, they're just an insane storyline right now. Right now. If you told me before the season that Buffalo would be the seventh best team in the league and Pittsburgh would be eighth, I would have thought you were biz pissing in a bottle mid podcast.

[Biz]

Typical Toronto.

[Yandel]

Toronto.

[Whitney]

Currently doing so.

[Biz]

Toronto.

[Whitney]

Hopefully Gino's all right, but I think.

[Yandel]

I'm Surprised Willie Nylander didn't do this at the press conference.

[Whitney]

I just pissed all over the place.

[Biz]

Do you think there's any ex player or management or whatever that is? Like, yeah, that, that was because even like the Andrew Ference one, which is like during the heat of the game, that's different. That's. But it's still like, I'm sure he regrets that.

[Whitney]

Like, it's still like Hartman did it too. Was that this year? Last year? No, Ryan Hartman did it last year.

[Biz]

Yeah, but it's like if you give a fan.

[Yandel]

I don't give a about that. That's he agree with you. That's key to the moment. Like, yeah, I think that Ferrets got like signed the glove for the fan who ended up buying the glove or something like that. So that's kind of like.

[Whitney]

That was immediately after a goal in a playoff game too.

[Biz]

That's like turn that series around.

[Yandel]

Oh, and, and, and by the way, I was so tired by the week because we, I had the three broadcast, then we did the coast to coast for four and then we filmed the Pink Whitney commercial on Friday. I was so sick of the whole like. Because they'd already played Vegas the week before in Vegas. So I was so sick of that storyline. I didn't even watch the game.

[Whitney]

I, I, you didn't miss much, buddy.

[Yandel]

I know. I, I, let's move on. Just like Auston Matthews said to that Mark McMasters guy. He's like, I'm done. I'm done with them. Like, let's just move on. Let's fucking move on now. If that Elliot article never came out, I think we barely talk about it on this podcast ass. But that was some good insight. What's that? What does that mean?

[Whitney]

Keith is flipping off biz. Oh, that, that, that goes back to the Nylander thing.

[Yandel]

I love you guys.

[Whitney]

Go back to peeing. All right. We missed him on Friday. Let's right now throw it over to the man we know as R. A lot of questions for this guy, right?

[Ra]

Hello, everybody. Welcome to ra's World. Here are these spitting chickens podcast. I got the shades on because I look like absolute trash right now. First night I've been out in like two months. Last night after the past game went had to have a few pups. I literally haven't been out in two months. So, you know, I'll have a couple drinks after nice victory. We're going to super bowl, bro.

[Yandel]

Congratulations. Rear. Is that a South Carolina Stingrays toque?

[Ra]

Yeah, yeah. Stingrays East Coast. The East coast league. My buddy R.A. robbie Concannon. Dutch yesterday, he's been the team president for a long time, so hooked me up with it last time I was down there. Yeah.

[Yandel]

Well, good to see you, buddy.

[Whitney]

Great to see you. All right. Great to see you and haven't talked to you in a while. I, I know the first pressing, pressing thing that's on everyone's mind is, I mean, you, you live for Twitter, you hate Elon, but, but you love, you love Twitter and you have been just owned by somebody. What has happened? Are you unlocked? Are you still hacked? What? Where is Ra on Twitter? Because I can't imagine you're handling not being able to get your thoughts out there very well and a lot more.

[Yandel]

Active on Instagram lately.

[Ra]

I'm still in the shoe. They still got me in the shoe on, on Twitter. I, I reached out to Gaz and Katie Pundisco at Bostil. They've been great. They, they only have contacts at Twitter. I had to send my license in, but of course I use my nickname, so I had to send articles in that like said Brian McGonagall and rare AD, but I haven't heard back yet. So I haven't been, I haven't been back on Twitter, but I've been, I've been pounding Instagram like biz with a His Riot account for the last few weeks. And I'll tell you, man, you know, Instagram, there's a lot of good stuff on that, like Twitter, like, and I know what Elon, blah, blah, but when he took over, dude, it got flooded with the incels. There's just so many angry, pissed off people. Instagram has a lot of, like, good stuff there. There's wholesome stuff, way more positive.

[Yandel]

Ra, I agree with you.

[Ra]

Exactly. Yeah. And, yeah, and you know, you know, stay the world right now, it's like, yeah, it's nice to share, you know, some positive stuff out there once in a while. So, yeah, I mean, I do want to get back on Twitter though, but I've been jonesing. I, I hit the button like eight times a day. So I don't know how I got hacked. I, I, I mean, obviously when I have my PIN tweet as a, as telling you to buy a Tesla, I got hacked. I don't know what happened. I don't think I clicked on a link. I've been on these Internet streets for a long time. I don't know if I did something, something stupid, but either way, I'm still waiting.

[Whitney]

So see, how about him wearing a.

[Biz]

Stingray hat that play against.

[Yandel]

We'Re boys with who's the.

[David Andrews]

You were.

[Yandel]

You were in the movie that he made.

[Ra]

Cuckoo can the late game. Yeah, dude. Robbie can. Dude. He. I mean he's been. You know, he's been drank and he has. He. Keith. He. He would like show up like, you know, like big potting in South Boston. He would just show up, but in full scuba outfit. Like scuba gear. Like would like, you know, football is the basking people. Like what. Who the is this guy? Like legit trip and body and he earned his nickname. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. He's an absolute gem. So yeah. So what. Who knows what Twitter. But I'm. I'm. I can't believe the Patriots in the super bowl this year. I bet him to win the division. Believe it or not. I had rail to win coach of the year and I got 50 to 1 on him to win the Super Bowl.

[Yandel]

Wow.

[Whitney]

What did you get for them to win the af. Oh, division, you said. Okay.

[Ra]

Division. He was. He was only 6 to 1. Don Coach of the year. But I'll take it. He's, you know, he's a. One of my OG Twitter followers. Biz. Believe it or not. Like, I mean way beyond. I think even before Chicklets, he might.

[Whitney]

Have bought a Tesla because of you.

[Yandel]

There. There's a clip online and I went. I want to see that. You brought it up the other day. It's Will Compton imitating Mike Vaughel for about three and a half, four minutes in a. In a locker room meeting. And the guys are in stitches the entire time. So they must have hit it out of the park. Seemed like a big time character and. And just very, very likable. Head coach Ra.

[Ra]

Yeah. I mean, I mean, how many touchdowns did he have in Super Bowls? Like two or three.

[David Andrews]

Right.

[Ra]

They would. They would utilize him here and there. And he's.

[Biz]

All of his touchdown catches were in the super bowl, right? Something crazy like that.

[Ra]

Yeah, that could. That could be the case. And biz no one also he does. When he got the job in Tennessee, there was. I. I'm sorry, I forget the. The woman. The woman reporter's name. He would always go to her first, you know, because he, he, you know, he recognized that that's a, you know, tough job for a woman. That's awesome reporter. He all. He always did it. And when he came to New England, he started doing it here with Karen Guriji in a long time. Well, she used to be the Herald for a long time. And then Drake May he. He. He took The. The same lead. He does the same thing, so pretty cool, man. It's, you know, indicative of a character type of guys there, so. Good stuff.

[Yandel]

That's awesome.

[Whitney]

All right. How's the health? Did you have the cane at the bar last night?

[Ra]

Yeah, yeah, but, like. But yo, I got up Monday morning for my. When I wanted my, like, 17 midnight pisses, and I was walking there, and all of a sudden I'm like, oh, my God, I'm walking like a gorilla right now. Like, for the first time in two months, I was like. I was upright. I've been going to pt and, yeah, this is the. The. The week I felt the best in two months. I'm moving around a bit and so, yeah, things are going good. I got MRI yesterday.

[Biz]

I.

[Ra]

First time. First one ever got.

[Whitney]

You were able to sit still in an MRI machine.

[Ra]

Almost the end, she goes, oh, last one picture didn't come in too good. We got to do it one more time.

[David Andrews]

So.

[Biz]

Yeah, horse tranquilizer.

[Ra]

I know if I can give me some PCP to knock me out for a couple hours, but. So, yeah, we'll see what happens. It's not sciatica like, I thought at first, like, yeah, I probably got a disc issue, but yeah, I'll. I'm getting back out there, man. It was nice to just see some folks have a couple cocktails last night. A couple pass. Let's see. Moving right along here. Dude, the shocks and the Ducks legit have made me a killing this year. I. I love that know Anaheim, what with the one point behind Edmonton with a game in hand. San Jose Wild cards, who. I don't know if they're gonna play, gonna get in the playoffs, but what they've been doing. I know Celebrini, I talk about him all the time, but this kid, I mean, I think the. There were eight people above the teenagers assist, like, list seven hall of Famers above. Man, when you're 19 years old, like, getting those names like that, man.

[David Andrews]

Love it.

[Ra]

Love the Ducks. Love the shots.

[Whitney]

They end of practice. It's like the Beatles. Now for the. For the Sharks, like, they got Smitty, they got celebrity, and it's just madness out there. I will say I saw an article about this team and I think in games that in overtime they're 11 and 3 overtime or shootouts and then in games that are finishing in regulation, they're like 15 and 21. So it's kind of smoke and mirrors a little bit. But celebrini having 40 more points than the second place guy he has six more points than if you took to Foley and Wenberg, who are 2 and 3 and combine them. So that's crazy because the 40 points more that he has of second on his team. There's five teams in the NHL that don't even have a leading score with 40 points. So it is, it is legendary. One of them is the Devils.

[Ra]

By the way, that pass between his legs a couple weeks ago when he was grinding behind the net, he stole the puck like two, like, I mean he's doing the, at 19, man. Just an absolute treat to watch that guy. So, yeah, I want to shout out those two teams. I gotta go, we'll go the Bruins right now.

[Yandel]

I want to ask you quickly, were you betting, were you betting the Ducks when they went through that tough, tough stretch though? There was about a 15 game stretch where they were.

[Ra]

I, I, I started fading them. I, I think three games in a row they lost. Oh my God, man. They're slumping right now. But I laid off them. But I did have. Who was it actually? No, the shot. Who's it with them were The Shocks beat one in Colorado. They were like, dude, they were like plus 320. Like the, that's a crazy price with the NHL, man. No team should have that price. So, yeah, I've made a, a ton of those so far, man, off those swords. But it's been fun. Bruins, like, I know teams do the father strips, the mother strips, you know, they bring mentors in, but the sibling strips. I don't know if you saw the highlights. The Bruins had the, you know, brothers and sisters and dude, the next team that fires their coach, they gotta hire Mason Lowrie's sister Zoe. Did you see that clip when she did the lineup cut? She come in like strutting in. She. And they bleeped her out and I hope she said the F bomb because she's like, we didn't come and eat hot dogs. We came here to get points. We needed them. And rattled off the lab the places for Holland. Dude, it's just good, man. I mean, would you want to bring us the ones on the road with older brother? Which brother would you bring?

[Yandel]

Oh, I mean, my brother.

[Biz]

My brother did a road trip with Whit, almost got him kicked off the Penguins. Whoa.

[Ra]

Come on, let's hear it.

[Whitney]

No, it was. Bry was out visiting Keith and we played Dallas the first night and then we flew to, to Arizona and played Arizona the second night. We won both games. We went out after and that was, it's been told on the Pod before. But we went out, Brian was with us and we ended up back in Mark Recce's room. Cause that was the night he scored his 500th goal. So a bunch of us in his room having beers was awesome. And then, and I think the night ended, I might have left the room. And next thing you know, Mark Rechy's brushing his teeth, going to get into bed and Brian Yanlis passed out in the middle of his bed. So he scored, he scored 500 goals and then couldn't even have his own bed to sleep in because by made his he announced his presence with authority on the, on the Penguin's dad's trip. And that was the same trip. The next day my dad and I were late to the bus. And I got on the bus and got death stared from Terry and looking behind me for my dad. And he got on the media bus. He was smart enough. I'm not catching the heat from the coach. He just walked on the media bus behind us. And I was the one that took the hate.

[Ra]

Yeah, I mean you got that every day from Terry. And though it was great to see Recce in town for Chara's retirement, I know we talked about it, but every single living alumni from Bruins with the retired numbers was in town. That was awesome.

[Biz]

Really.

[Ra]

So.

[Yandel]

And yeah, we had to go after. We had Toque on the broadcast on the Tuesday at tnt and that was after that weekend. And Pasta looked like he was still hungover from it. He had the black eye, looked like he came out of a garbage can. So he said that the ones in the past had never been like that because there were so many guys not only still playing, but all the guys came into town and they just tied one on so it looked like a blast already. Were you in in the muck with them? Like were you trying to figure out where they were going?

[Ra]

No, no, I, I still still in the on the DL, but I, I, I gotta get going. I haven't been to a game for a little bit, so. So no, I wasn't being the stalker. I mean Pastel, I mean it was like a block and a half away.

[Whitney]

But I couldn't believe that Zadorov was okay by the way. Luckily for the Bruins. I thought that was like torn acl. He was done. That looked ugly.

[Ra]

So he loves penalties, that guy absolutely loves penalty.

[Yandel]

Yeah, he's a lead leader over the last five years.

[Ra]

But you know what? Those are the guys. You know, when teams going around the playoffs, you need bruises in your own end too. Yeah, sometimes it's good to take penalties. And as far as the Bees, you know what if they don't hang on to a playoff spot here and don't make it? Like, I think this, the fandom is just in love with this team, yo. They don't have the highest skill level, but they go out, they bust their balls. Effort, grit, hot. Marco Sturm. Awesome. Haya. You know, it's all gravy right now and I'm glad they didn't overpay for what's his name, Rasmus Anderson.

[Whitney]

I saw the deal was 9 million a year for seven years. They were going to give him well.

[Ra]

And plus, you know what they gave up from too. And it's like, you know, they're not at that level. You know, you got mortgage the future a little bit. I mean, like I said, this is all gravy, but it's been a great year. I, I do hope they hang on for a playoff spot and always a treat. But if they don't get in there, man, you know, it's, it's, it's been fun and you know, I, I hate. I, I loved how Chara kind of admonished the, the crowd, you know, at his retirement. Like they started booing, you know, and he's like hey, did you hear? He's like, hey. Kind of like yelled at them them. And I thought it was out of line too. Like when, when Bruins fans talk about the Jacobs's in money. Shut the up, bro. The salary cap came in in 06. They've spent to the cap since then. That's 1980s, bro. You can, you know about owners, but it's old. It's so stupid. And sweetie nearly. Yeah, I know there's quibbles to have and draft, whatever, but they, you know, they, they earned a year. They all right. They haven't been great, but dude, this team's been three Stanley Cups in the last, you know, 12 years, 13. What, 15 years. How many teams would give their left leg for that? So people need to relax about the Bruins. They're in a holding patent right now and it's, it's a gravy. Yeah, it's good. Enjoy it. If we get in the playoffs, awesome, but not going to belly ache.

[Yandel]

I think some people were surprised that Neely and Sweeney kept their jobs. I think that they deserved another chance. Where would you rank them from last year? Beginning of the year, the way they fumbled the Swayman negotiations. If that's how you view it.

[Ra]

No.

[Biz]

Well, I think the Marshawn trade hurt a lot of Fans like seeing him leave and then he goes and wins. I think people turned on them then more than ever.

[Ra]

Yeah. Yeah, that was ugly. I mean, I, I think they thought he might have been more done than he was, and obviously he's been lighting up since. But no, I, I, I honestly thought. Sweetie was, was, was great at the deadline last year. Biz like, you know, he like, okay, we're not going to make the players this year. We got a lot of contracts. He, you know, he stockpiled a bunch of picks. Look what we, we've been getting out of Mitten this year. Kushnadinov. That kid's a, he's Dynamite, man. What, 22 points in like 44 games or something like that, you know, he's a whiz. You could put them on the top three lines. They got a lot of good pieces there. So. Yeah, I, I liked what they did last year. You know, it's tough to rebuild on the fly sometimes, but you couldn't burn it down. You got, you know, pasta, McAvoy, Swayman. That's not a team. You, you just say start over. You know, you try to get back to where you were and, you know, I think the bees are on that way, man. I'm.

[Yandel]

So you, you give them like a B plus since then.

[Ra]

Yeah, yeah, I would. Yeah. A B plus. Yeah. I like what they did at the deadline fair. You know, hopefully they fix the draft. And though I don't know if you guys mentioned earlier, I didn't get on to late. Charlie Coyle, thousand games. Did you guys give them props?

[Yandel]

There's a few. I think we might have mentioned it last pod, but we had, we actually got a chance to talk to Zach Gorensky as well after that. Coast to coast, he hit his thousandth. Yosi killer. Alex Galore, too, and Alex Kalorn.

[Ra]

Yeah, yeah, congrats.

[Whitney]

And Coyle's family, they, they shot off the cannon the night of his thousandth game, and then he actually scored an empty net goal, but they called it back for offside. That would have been kind of cool. So his family's deaf now, but.

[Ra]

Marcus Foligno, first career hat TR trick early, early in the week. So, like to give guys props for that stuff, we gotta give a little shout out to the ladies. It was, I know, last week. I was on last week. Congrats to the U.S. under 18 women's team. They were at the World Championships, their 10th gold medal. There's 76, 6, 4 and 7 and 93 games in, in those tournaments, man, they're kicking ass. So good stuff. And I don't know if you talked about that.

[Whitney]

I gotta shout out somebody. Sorry. All right. Catherine McCool, number 24. She was on Team USA. Her mom good friends with my father in law. She works at the school my son goes to. So I got a cool picture of her with the trophy. So congrats Team usa.

[Ra]

Did you guys see that the ladies had that big scrap on the game in Washington? It was New York versus Montreal. Like these girls have been mauling each other the last couple seasons. But it was the end of the game. They were beating the piss out of each other. They started and we want a team.

[Yandel]

Team.

[Ra]

We want a team because Washington doesn't have a team. And it was actually the largest crowd in the United states women's history. 17, 228. But the best part was they kicked the out of each other at the end of the game and then they had to take the picture because it was like a barnstorming game. So they all get together afterwards after pounding each other. So. Yeah, yeah, that was great. Yeah. Good to see you. I like to give ladies.

[Yandel]

I love how they go different locations because you know they're always going to sell out because it's like the carnivals coming to town, but also like Toronto, Toronto, like every game they sell out, right? So like the markets that they have are strong and I like how they're essentially advertising the product in these, these pop ups and I'm the way, the way that, how hard they play. Ra. I wouldn't be shocked that that league's double the size in, in the next five years and a lot of people with money wanting to get in on the action and own teams to. Currently one guy owns the league, right?

[Biz]

Really what owns all the teams?

[Yandel]

I want to say that he's, he's a majority owner of that and if I'm wrong, you guys can sculpt me.

[Whitney]

No.

[Biz]

Wasn't a PLD's sister on one of those teams. I thought I saw, I saw, I thought I saw a picture of him and his sister playing in that Washington game, which is incredible if his sister's on that team.

[Yandel]

The professional Women's hockey League, the pwhl, is centrally, that's centrally essentially owned by the Mark Walter Group, a consortium led by billionaire Mark Walter, owner of the LA Dodgers. So I, I, I'm winning another one.

[Whitney]

I'm on fire.

[Biz]

Give yourself one. Give me yourself.

[Ra]

Are you reading AI? Was that AI Biz?

[Yandel]

No, that was, that was G helping me out like the Producer that he is in the chat now.

[Whitney]

Where did G get it is the question.

[Yandel]

But I believe from the Commonwealth of Australia and UK.

[Ra]

Crocodile that day. And shout out to the Boston Fleet girls, I got some friends on the team. I do have to get to a game. Once I'm walking normally, I'll get there. Hey, did you know NASA is going back to the moon for the first time since 1972?

[David Andrews]

Really?

[Biz]

Why didn't.

[Ra]

Well, I. I guess they. This is the first of many trips, I guess they were to put some sort of infrastructure there. I don't know exactly what the purpose of that is, but they're going up, I think it's February 2nd because they're gonna. They're gonna basically do a lap. They're not landing on the moon. The farthest point they're gonna be230,000 miles from home. That's like doing 40 round trip trips from, you know, New York to LA. Basically 230. Imagine being a little cube all the way out there. That's some crazy. And I hate.

[Yandel]

How long does it take?

[Ra]

They got a dome and they get up there. And the day. I mean once they get through the atmosphere and they, they don't. They don't need to. They don't need to use fuel. They just kind of like coast through the thing. By the way, people who are on the back, check. They didn't land in the moon. Those people, those. It's such. It's so disrespectful. Oh, they don't go to the moon or. They made the movie. Suck a dick, dude. Like, like people died, man. Like three guys get burned alive. And this was the 60s. It was so much fucking harder to do things then. And the idea that you're gonna fucking insult those people like. And oh, they didn't go there. Fuck you.

[Biz]

They went. So you think they did land on the moon?

[Ra]

If you don't, you're fucking. Well, we don't say that word anymore. You're a re. Moron if you don't think fucking people went to the fucking moon.

[Whitney]

I mean, it says it takes three days to get to the moon from Earth. All right, wow.

[David Andrews]

You'll actually have the chance to go to the moon by 2032. Because a startup just announced January 12th they are planning to put a hotel on the moon. Grew space for two.

[Whitney]

I see. I could see Biz doing that.

[Yandel]

Are you out of your mind, dude? I wouldn't even skydive.

[David Andrews]

250K for a room. That's pretty expensive.

[Biz]

Let's get it. Let's get a GoFundMe for RA to do it.

[Whitney]

He was there last night.

[Yandel]

If you're not going there for any type of, like, science and, and to learn, I feel like it's just such a waste of resources.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

A dumb flex.

[Ra]

I mean, I want to be an astronaut. I was a kid, but yeah, I. I don't know what they're going to do when they say they're going to put infrastructure. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. What, what, what are you going to do in the moon? We open a supermarket or something? It just. I don't know. We've been there. I don't know. But I'm excited.

[Yandel]

Showing up in the last few minutes to fill up your cart.

[Whitney]

And then the aliens working game open.

[Ra]

You must so st. So biz. When they go up £6 million on the launch pad, that's how much that the rock goes up. Six million pounds. It goes five to seven miles a second when it gets to space, dude. So, yeah, I'm. I'm a big space nerd. Like I said, 230,000 miles away. I'm looking forward to it. And by the way, there's a little story. We never talked about this, guys. My Twitter had a photo. People probably think it's AI Fake.

[David Andrews]

Fake.

[Ra]

It's a spitting Chiclets flag in the cupola.

[Whitney]

The.

[Ra]

The little window from the International Space Station. Okay, this was. Guys, what was that? 2018? It was before COVID So we reached out. Someone reached out to G. Colonel Mike Hopkins. Great guy. He was up in space on the International International Space Station. Now when people were up there, NASA said, hey, you know, you want to talk to somebody from home and. And, you know, get a little slice of home while you're up there. Imagine this guy looks down. There's 8 billion people below him. And he asked for us three shitheads. Me, Biz, and Wit.

[Yandel]

This is crazy.

[Ra]

Oh, I got. Yeah, I got mine behind me.

[Whitney]

He wrote. He wrote. Wit, thanks for taking the time to chat. Love the show. Happy. No, I can't read. I can't read the. Can't read the moment.

[Biz]

How was his Internet?

[Whitney]

Unreal.

[Yandel]

It was great.

[Ra]

So like yours, like chicks? We. It was like, we. We didn't go to space, but, like, we de facto went like, what, Keith? When we got the zoom hookup, all of a sudden, dude, he's. We used to look at him and the. He's in space, dude. It was insane. So when we started that, like, it wasn't a checklist. Interview. He just talked to us. We kind of picked.

[Whitney]

Yeah, we couldn't release it.

[Biz]

He probably wasn't even in space.

[Ra]

I'll stab you.

[Yandel]

Oh, no, here we go.

[Ra]

When we started, he was above Vancouver island. And when we finished, he was above Vietnam. And it was like, wow. I. I still. Like I said, I can't. I can't believe he had us there. So fast forward like a year or so later, he was in town, his kid was playing hockey, a hockey game of Worcester. And it was St. Patty's Day. He's like, hey, all right, I'm in town, you know, let's get together. And I was like, colonel, like, every bar is packed. I goes, come. Of course I brought my Knights. Like, I bring everybody down there. So he calls me and I. I was like, I'm outside. He's like, oh, I'm here. And I'm like. I'm like, I don't. I don't see it. He's like, I have a street. I'm like. I goes, are you sure you're in Charleston? And he's like, hold on. And he pulls over. He's like, I'm. Oh, fuck, I'm on Wakefield. I was like, oh, okay. So. So I goes, all right, how far is that?

[Biz]

It's only like 20 minutes to Vancouver.

[Ra]

So. So I go, sweat, you know, 545 Medford street come to the Knights. I'll see you there. So he ends up getting there with his wife and kid. We had a great old time. Every day have a fucking astronaut on the Knights of Columbus. So he's telling the guys, like, yeah, I got lost. They ended up in Wakefield. My buddy Rizzo, he's like, bro, you come home from the goddamn space. But you couldn't find Charles now from Wakefield. He started pissing his pants, laughing. It was just, you know, guys in space, he couldn't find the place. But no, it was good. It was a very special thing. And I mean, like I said, I wanted to be an astronaut, was a kid. So it was, it was awesome. And I just wanted to share that. We haven't talked about that.

[Yandel]

Well, you got a lot of free time on your hands now, Ra. I mean, hey, and guess what lot. Not a lot of gravity up there. It'll be easy on the L5S one you got barking.

[Whitney]

And, and, and you. You don't have to call it your gravity bong anymore. It's a non gravity.

[Biz]

Just the bong.

[Whitney]

Just bong, dude.

[Ra]

I know. I wonder like, like, what biz if you were in space What. What kind of experiment would you want to do or what kind of.

[Yandel]

I would love to. Space.

[Whitney]

I was just gonna say. I mean the question. That's why I thought he might go to the moon. I'm gonna get a whack on the moon. Moon. What's that stuff floating around the. The cockpit?

[David Andrews]

Ah.

[Yandel]

International load.

[Whitney]

It's our year.

[David Andrews]

Yeah.

[Ra]

You are a savage off.

[Yandel]

What would I want to do up there? We'll get back. I would definitely love to. To smoke some weed and. And also get high on mushrooms up there. I think that would be pretty cool. I don't know if I would have the balls to put that suit on and then walk outside of the ship that when. When even I just see videos of that I get like, you know, I. I like quiver because I. I picture being at the top of like the CN tower even with a harness on and like leaning over the edge. Like could you imagine like there's one little explosion and then you're just in space until your tank runs out and you're just kind of doing like loser laps in the middle of nowhere. Wouldn't that freak you out with you think?

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Yeah. I got no desire to go to space.

[Ra]

The ball.

[Whitney]

The ball down here.

[Ra]

The balls like for those. Whoever goes up that. That's major balls like to go like 200000 miles away and you know, it's a huge risk. And back then. So in the 60s, like the Apollo missions, the fact that these, you know, they pulled it off. Absolutely incredible. And Shadow. Shout out to space Arrows. Yeah. Classic recommendation for the week. Going back to my man Brian De Palma. 1981 blowout. John Travolta, Nancy Allen. You ever see it, Brian? I mean. Yeah. Brian Keith.

[David Andrews]

Yeah, I've seen it.

[Biz]

I haven't seen it in a long time, but good movie.

[Ra]

Unbelievable movie. Depalma 1. One of the most underrated guys. It's. It's one of the best thrillers ever. I don't even want to mention one of the other guys in it because it's sort of a spoiler. But if you're looking for something to watch. Blowout. Legit awesome flick. Let's see. Bets Been doing all right if you've been following me this year. Made some dough. We got to take the Patriots. No brainer. I know they don't play through another couple weeks. They're getting four and a half right now with you Better me out of what?

[Whitney]

No, I will. I mean I'm not like super confident. I think that basically based on how the Offense has looked and David Andrews was saying this. It's. But I, I think they'll somehow get it done and I'm going to bet them. But, but it's going to be an absolute war.

[Ra]

Keith, what do you got?

[Biz]

I think, I think they're going to. Especially getting the points. I'm going to take them to win. But yeah, I mean how do you bet against your team especially? I mean it's just that at this point like even getting to the super bowl is such like a huge accomplishment for where they were three, four years ago. I think it's, I think it's a no brainer. I'm going to take them.

[Whitney]

Maybe the line goes up too because based on how they've looked and how Seattle's looked like, I feel like people are going to be pounding Seattle Battle and everyone hates the Patriots so much.

[Ra]

Yeah, absolutely. Tuesday night, San Jose. They're in Vancouver. Vancouver's spiraling shocks are only minus 115. Puck line plus 205 pound them. They've been playing great celebrity. Like I said, he's been out of control. Take the shocks Tuesday night Pat's in a couple weeks.

[Whitney]

They're only minus 115.

[Ra]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Line looks kind of, kind of cheap.

[Biz]

And I like that right now.

[Ra]

You know this, we don't do politics here. This is not politics. This is just ra.

[Yandel]

I was going to ask you about this because, because I've seen you've been posting about a lot on there and, and we, I know we don't, we don't cover politics because it's such a divisive topic. But you know, you're, you're our one guy who, who like covers this stuff and, and yeah, I'll hand it over to you.

[Ra]

And, and yeah, Alex Pretty, a VA nurse got the guy take, you know, people who are dying. He, he, he brings veterans their dignity. And, and I shared one of his. A video of him, you know, like saying last rights to a guy. Not last rights but you know, saying some final words. And, and, and look, I, I know everybody has crazy opinions now, but this 15 videos of what happened. There's, there's. This guy was helping a woman who got shoved down. He. And he held his phone up, he held this hand. He couldn't have been in more of a, a submissive post, a non threatening. And those ghouls, they, they dogpiled on him. I mean they dog pile and then they boom. One shot and you're like what? And then he was splayed out on the Ground. They shot him nine or ten more times like, like. And then they run away. Now these guys aren't cops. Like, like cops. And these don't like these guys. These guys are with cops. They're like. They were telling Minnesota and you know we got this that like these guys, they're not law enforcement. These guys have been hired last month. They're getting this bonus diff. They. They wear a mask. They don't know the names. There was a woman who didn't wrote an actress. She applied for a job. She wasn't trying to work there. They didn't do a drug test. They didn't do a background. They're like, oh, you hired. They're just picking anyone in there. And the fact that American guy in the broad day it was murdered. I mean, there's no fucking other word. You could. People are dming me. Oh, oh, what do you around find out? Comply. It's like, buddy, what. What are you watching? The guy helped the woman up and they jumped on him and shot him and killed him. And you know what? They got orders. They. Someone told me they could do that. So I just. I. I love this country, man. I know what, I'm real liberal, but I love America. I love this country. And it. I get hot sick when I see that stuff. It kills me. And, and like I said, it's those. They're not on the cops side. They're. They're with the cops. Like, they're what I've been mean and people need to react to this. This is not who we are. They're literally going up to people because based on what they look like. And one guy, there was a video called last week. The guy's like, hey. He's like, where are you? Where were you born? He's like, out here. He's like, you got an exit man. And the guy's like, like, you got a hexent too. It was like a Hispanic guy like questioning the guy with his Hispanic accent. I'm not saying they're all bad, but what we're seeing and like they're telling, oh, they can come in your house. They can like open your door there. They have impunity. That's. That's no like, like being a cop is, is being respectful. You, you wear a hat. You don't wear a mask.

[Biz]

You, you.

[Ra]

You show your name, you show your face. It's. It's fucking insanity. It's not America. It's not who we are. Again, I'm not saying every guy but what I've been Seeing there's a lot of miscreants and they're acting like. And again they're giving people fifty thousand dollar bonuses. These people aren't working all of a sudden. Yeah, you got an opportunity to go muscle up some people you don't like. It's awful. They again, they shot that guy in cold blood. I'm done. I love you guys. I love America. I love this country. I just, I just don't want to see this one more and hopefully things change. So thank you for listening.

[Yandel]

I was gonna end also on another sad note. I think as we were recording it was put out on. On Rasmus, Darlene's fiance Carolina, her Instagram that while she went through with this, this hard thing that they were expecting their first kid. So just a. What Darlene and his wife have been through over the course of this season is like I, it's. It seems like hell. And the fact that he's still able to play and lead his team throughout this process is remarkable. So I just wanted to kind of send some, some love towards him and, and his fiance and their whole family about all the. Life's not fair. Sometimes he is like the nicest guy in the world. The perfect guy you want leading your franchise. So shout out to her for how strong she's been through this entire situation and I hope that they're able to, to, to get everything sorted out and, and just kind of continue to live their lives in a happy manner. So just horrible, horrible stuff that they've dealt with.

[Whitney]

Yeah. You got to bring up another hockey story that was crushing the college hockey community. The director of hockey ops at Michigan State, Dan Sturgis, he passed away suddenly. He has two young kids at home. And I saw clip of coach Nightingale at Michigan State talking. He's very powerfully speaking about him and that's just horrible. I know Michigan State will be in Penn State. Hopefully we get to hear a little bit about Dan. But that hit the hockey community hard. So tough end of the show, you know. But that's, that's kind of what life is. So we're taking a Michigan State and all that and ra. It's good, good, good to, to see you once again. Thank you everyone who listened. Thanks to David Andrews. That was awesome. Appreciate a ball knower filling us in on. On his life and career in the. In the path. So we'll see you guys. We'll be live together Thursday recording and we'll. We'll be back Friday and we'll talk to you then.

[David Andrews]

Won't happen. Won't happen again.

[Whitney]

A bad habit worth breaking.

[David Andrews]

But it's taking time.

[Yandel]

I don't know.

[Ra]

It don't matter. It's gonna happen.

[David Andrews]

It's gonna happen again. Wanna come again?

[Whitney]

Out on the course, they're the PGA Tour's best players. But in the arena, they're prime time. And season two of TGL, presented by SoFi, is back with lights, cameras, action. We're talking big moments, big personalities, big names in the stands, all on the big screen. Big time matchups with shot clocks. Hammer drops timeouts, overtime and playoffs. It's city versus city, Squad versus Squad. This sport just hits different under the.

[Yandel]

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[Whitney]

Keep up, it's golf. Tune in to every match, only on espn. Out on the course, they're the PGA Tour's best players. But in the arena, they're prime time. And season two of TGL, presented by SoFi, is back with lights, cameras, action. We're talking big moments, big personalities, big names in the stands, all on the big screen. Big time matchups with shot clocks. Hammer drops timeouts, overtime and playoffs. It's city versus city, Squad versus Squad. This sport just hits different.

[Yandel]

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[Whitney]

Keep up, it's golf. Tune in to every match, only on espn.