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Sandbagger.
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Get that on camera.
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Whoa. We're buzzing right now.
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Welcome everyone, to episode 620 of the Spit and Chiclets podcast, presented by Pink Whitney. Keith is in the middle of Colorado, skiing his absolute balls off, drinking Pink Whitney up top of the hill. I, I, I've done the same business pointing to Canada, which I don't believe has Pink Whitney, so we could talk about that later. Shut your mouth. Get your middle finger out of the scre in Quebec. Okay?
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Quebec.
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You don't have one player from Quebec on your team. But Pink Whitney's always there. Pink Whitney's in Italy, I believe, because a couple people maybe dragged it over in their bags from North America or the United States of Quebec, I should say. Everyone who's out there drinking it, we thank you, we love you, and thank you so much to New Amsterdam for making pay. Grady, what biz? What?
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What?
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It stinks. We're kind of at war again. And I didn't like last four nations. It got real ugly. But it's just, it's that time of year.
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It's Okay. I think that. I think that we should embrace the hate for one another.
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Yep.
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It's. It got really snarky online very early. And it's like, you know what? Fuck you. I'm not the 51st state. Fuck you. Lick my nuts. And congratulations on your win against Latvia.
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Thank you. Congrats. Congrats on your win against. Check. And Czechia. And. And I didn't think I got that snarky. And. And listen, we're gonna go kind of. What's happened most recent. It is Monday, 5:49 Eastern. The U.S. just wrapped. We're going to go to the games today and then we'll go back into tomorrow the game. The games that kicked off the tournament. In terms of the snarkiness. Listen, this news broke about Team Canada not staying in the Olympic Village and.
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And whatever surprising thing I've ever heard.
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It's not surprising, but I will admit.
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I know it's not surprise surprising because that's what they did the last two times they won the gold.
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I'm pretty sure 2010 they were in the village. Like, I'm almost positive they were. But I. I'm not going to talk shit now. If you guys don't win, I will talk endless amounts of primadonnas.
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That would be. Regardless of that.
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Like.
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What do you mean?
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Yeah, but this will be like my biggest talking point, I think too good for the Olympic village. Like that would be one of the.
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There's a virus going around. I think chlamydia is buzzing or they're. They're not supplying the rubbers, I guess.
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So why were you over there?
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Coronavirus or something. Coronavirus?
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Is that what they're calling it from.
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G. So I'm not a doctor, but I just. I. I'd rather them not get something that like the Swedish women's team got and that they were snapping around.
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It was the Finnish women's team.
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Excuse me.
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Who then like, they. They delayed the game against Canada women. And I was like, that kind of should be a forfeit. I think if Canada was sick, like, they would have been like, no, you're playing. So shout out Canada. Very classy there.
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Canadian women. Listen, I'm not trying to create any fucking drama. I heard that they were getting bunked up next to the long jump skiers and these guys have been injecting their cocks with fucking whatever steroid that's on the market. The new steroid, the. I don't. Beyond peptides we're talking. I don't know. I don't even know the name of it. So they didn't want any association, so they booked themselves into the Four Seasons in Italy. So I don't know what else to tell you now.
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Now G is saying, according to yahoo sports, in 2010 they were at a hotel as well. That's what I just wanted to get too quick.
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Would you change anything up?
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No.
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If you were winning. Ok, so, so one, I got you there, Yance. You used to fucking get a new pair of socks, put them on the same exact way before every goddamn game. You used to step on each individual mat that you had to unwield.
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You're.
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If there's a man of routine that's on this podcast, I'm staring at him right now with that. Usa.
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I stayed at the. I stayed at the same hotel as my teammates and my country mates.
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Okay.
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That's what they're that. Well, no, you stayed at the same hotel as your teammates.
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Yeah, your teammates, but that's what they're doing. If, if it was a big deal, I would have stayed at a different hotel because back.
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All right, you know, we were at Westerns like this. Why aren't the Canadian women team at that? Nice, beautiful, five star.
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Listen, are they not. I wasn't gonna spill the beans, but the reason they're staying at the hotel is because all of Jarvis's buddies took all the bunks in the Olympic village.
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All right, okay, that makes sense. All right, all right.
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Okay, but you're grilling me now.
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Okay.
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Okay. Thanks for coming clean.
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The. The. Quick. The. Oh, is that the Jarvard University? That's. That's hilarious.
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I got this sent to me after he corrected my word on national television. What did I say? I don't even remember.
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I don't remember.
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Oh, advantage to Tejas. I added a couple today.
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Junior. So imagine if Jarvis did apply to Harvard. I'd pay to see that application and like the essay you have to write.
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Just to see the guy reading his application being like, is this guy serious?
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His thesis is how I built a fence in my parents backyard, got all my buddies to do it, and then I paid for it.
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So the, the, the hatred between us did begin because I just tweeted you, Keith, you're not on Twitter. I, I retweeted the New York Post article about Team Canada deciding to stay away from all the other athletes in the Olympics. And I said, biz, not your style. Biz will stay at a Motel 6 gladly. Like he'll ask us to do it. And biz came back, he brought up Bad Bunny. He brought up. Like, like, I was like, whoa, what the fuck?
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Oh, yeah.
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Look at Yan's face. As if though you haven't already teed him up for it. Come on.
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I swear to God he hasn't.
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I swear.
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Swear on your kids you have not read the tweet.
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Swearing my children.
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Swear to God.
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Ok, all right, fair enough.
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Yeah.
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No, no, no, no. Yan's is truly off Twitter.
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We never go, like, back channels to then, like a plan anything against you. That is not an honorable podcast move. Like, if I'm going to come at you or he's going to come at you, I'll never tell him prior. And that's another swear.
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That's another swear.
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That's not fair.
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So I need to hear this beef.
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He came. I'm gonna fucking subpoena your phones.
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He's like, we're not fucking. Our country's not falling apart because a guy sang at the Super Bowl. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. But you know what?
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That's not what it said. That's not what it said. I said, if you want to make an issue out of nothing, like you guys always fucking do, it's always something you're making an issue out of, go do it. I said, they did this the last two times. It was. It's a nothing burger story that they're trying to make it as if, though, oh, Team Canada is too cool. It's like, you're right. If you watch that fucking game today, we are fucking too cool. And we're in a different fucking class than you. And if you watch with your eyeballs and you turn your brain on, you would see that we're an absolute fucking force. And if we met in the finals, we're going to fucking bend you so fucking far over. No spit, no lube, sandpaper finish. I saw it with my own fucking eyes today. Everybody who's listening watched those two checks A better team. You guys were tied after one against Latvia.
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Well, we had. Don't even know what goals called back. We had. We had.
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You're bumping in a goalie like you're Sam Bennett trying to score goals.
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That one was brutal.
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That, that, that, that one. Okay, so I want to get into that. Well, we'll get into that when we get to the usa.
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I got your mind in a pretzel, baby.
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No, you don't. I wanted to pump your. Your tires. They okay? They look. They looked incredible today, Team Canada. Now when we get to us, I thought they looked phenomenal as well, the Canadian team, those lines that they keep throwing over the boards. It's pretty up. I'm not gonna lie. It's very, very insane to see, like, oh, here comes the fourth line. You're like, stanley Cup Con smite. You're just like, well, your head's spinning around. And the checks.
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Who.
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Yeah. A team who I think could maybe upset some people. It was. It was close a little bit early on first period.
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Just like the US Laughter game. And. And that. That's what made me happy. I was like, oh, fuck. They. They started taking over. Last five minutes until. Until McKinnon zing one through with Celebrini, who we'll get to, but keep going, Woody.
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So that was McCarr, actually. Yeah, that was the first goal or McCarr.
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Sorry.
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And this the. The tweet you sent over. Incredible. So Macklin Celebrini has scored in his first USHL game, his first college hockey game, his first NHL game, and his first Olympic game.
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That's a resume.
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He's playing on the wing with. Sorry. McDavid's is center. He's on the wing. Then we got Tom Wilson. We talked about those lines on last episode. And what happens early on. I look in the corner and see a check guy getting completely hammered through the glass. I'm like, oh, Wilson's already doing his thing.
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It was McJesus McChesus, baby. Everybody, all hands on deck, boys. All hands on Freight train coming through.
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I didn't plan on seeing McDavid running people's head through the wall, but once that happened and then Wilson, I think in the next period or maybe that period, I mean, he got Gudis and you don't see gudas get got. You really don't you see him just. Just hammering guys left and right. And Wilson's doing his thing and runs him over. And then the one thing I did want to say, so I believe one goal was scored. Was it McKinnon assisted by McDavid and Crosby. Right.
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I think it was McCarr who got it. It was on the power play, the one back door.
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Yeah. But wasn't there also a goal?
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Unless they change. Unless they change it. I saw someone basically like, I'm coming my jeans right now. And they showed the stat bar. And it was. It was those three guys.
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Was it you coming in?
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It was. I was like, you know what? I don't really need to use you just today.
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This is.
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This is far dirtier and more explicit.
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So the fir. The first goal was Celebrini from McCarr and McDavid. And the fourth goal was McKinnon from McDavid and Crosby. You're literally looking at like guys who may go down is like the top. Some of the best players to ever play, just like connecting on goals. So in that aspect, Canada, they're unlike anyone else. Okay. We all know it. We all saw it today. You can puff your chest as big as you want because you're from Canada.
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And you have to take the prime minister out of his house and be sleeping in his bed. The way that they're planned, like after.
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One game, after one game, just right into the ambassador suite.
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Oh, so I did notice at one point in the first period, Bennett in the most classic, Sam Bennett accidentally on purpose, like, ran into Do Stall, who Dostall was the worry. Right. He's like this guy could in a one game. And when we get into the. The elimination round, like, I don't really want to face him. I think that they'll look way better. They just had to play Canada. But Bennett with a classic just like, oh, whoopsie daisy. And Biz, you said it already. Like Stolars, he still hasn't recover did to him in the playoffs. So you have that. You have that as well.
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He's healed. He just has ptsd.
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Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, when he sees people come through the crease, it's just like anywhere near it.
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The tune's a little different with Biz, too. When you talk about Bennett, if he hits someone on his Toronto Maple Leafs, he's causing a scene. But if he's doing it for Canada, it's fine. And then he's staying in a suite by himself.
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No, I still think he's Hannibal Lecter and he needs to be wheeled out there with a face mask on.
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I am not.
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I am. I do not agree with your statement right there. If they put him in an Italian prison right now, I would be like, I kind of.
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That's where he's staying in between games.
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He came into the Super Bowl. I mean, he came in like Matt Collins did to the super bowl, to the first game of the Olympics. But Biz a bummer in that Josh Morrissey left the game.
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I know.
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Has. Has anything. Did you see what happened to him?
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No, didn't really see it. No. Sucks though, because I love his game.
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Yeah, he's.
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He's very quick to close. Good. Good long stick, good first pass. Like normally leaned on to provide offense for his team, but doesn't have to there. So I feel like he's matched up perfectly. So definitely, definitely a. A tough loss. But if it's something that's day to day. You know, they, the, the, the few games they got left in this division aren't exactly going up against a us, Sweden or Finland type thing. But not. Yeah, but to me, it's, It's. You mentioned it first. It's all about that forward group. Like that is. There they are driving track. You could throw them a grenade and they'll make it work. Like, just the, the chemistry they have. Like, I didn't know how the, the, the Marner Crosby chemistry in stone, like that looked unbelievable. They're just all dialed in, you know, and it's. And then you're, you know, you see this first line and clearly McDavid, he was very appreciative of Wilson's game afterward. Just saying like, you know, creating so many turnovers.
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Four check God.
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He called four check God. He used. I thought that maybe that was like, AI or something.
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He looked more happy and cheerful. And granted, they just won five nothing. He had three assists. I never seen McDavid, like, do an interview like that. It was like, yeah, I, I guess playing with like 14 hall of Famers possibly makes you that happy because, yeah, I. 4 check God is like a Eddie Murphy level Comedy line by McDavid.
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Yeah. Yeah. He's trying to pass off the duties of being McJesus. He's like, no, he's. He's now your God. Canada. And then. And then Celebrini, he even pumped his tire saying how many, like, how unreal he is and how he was just keeping so many different plays alive. Like Celebrini, like, say what you want about all of the. His flashy skill set, but he's so sticky on the walls. He's able to just like the way he positions his feet sometimes he's got his heels against the boards and you're just like. He just always finds a way to come up with the puck. But. But then once you've gotten past Wilson on the forecheck, you're like, okay. But then as Jan's mentioned, then you got the fourth line coming out and you're like, oh. Just coming at you in waves and waves. And when a guy like McDavid's bought in and he's stolen the body early, it's. It just like, it puts a big smile on your face. You're like, oh, okay. These guys aren't fucking easing into this thing. Dipping their toll. How's the water? They're going full steam ahead. And then when they were up, they did not let off the gas. And Just kind of rolled four lines. And I think the one question mark though, coming in boys was Bennington. He was tested in that one. That was 26 shots on net. And I would say that in the first half of the game there was probably, you know, three, four grade A opportunities. And you see how they were testing them from the wall. Like they were just kind of throwing the shit burgers on net. So very happy with the way that turned out. And it was pretty cool. I read something, I sent it to the group chat about how a few weeks ago Tampa was in St. Louis and he reached out to Bennington and he went for a couple Guinnesses or whatever bar they were at. Or maybe it was the other way around. Bennington in St. Louis was in Tampa. And either way, they met up, had a couple beers and just how much like Coop wanted to communicate to Bennington. It's like we have all the confidence in the world in you. Like, I know it's been a, a topic of conversation and we're just talking shop here like everybody else would, right? I was like, ah, you know, probably the worst stats going as far as goaltenders in the NHL who are lugging big minutes. And like, that's, no, that's not a good barometer coming in. But big game goalie showed you why. And pretty funny quotes from Coupe after how long did you know that he's your starter? And I think he said 358 days ago. I knew that he was going to be my starter at the Olympics, so he left the media to last minute to tell them who was starting. But he knew a year ago. So pretty cool. Great first day and very proud of the way the boys played. Let's stay humble here. I know we were around off the top biz go.
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Just going back to the, you know, McDavid pumping Wilson's tires and Bennett and guys like that. Like when people complain about guys like Bennett and Wilson making an Olympic team like that, it's, it's when you see comments like that, when the best player in the world, those guys know what it takes to win. They know they need players like that on your team. And how cool is it for a guy like Tom Wilson who, you know, obviously he's an amazing player, but he's not at that level. Right? And he's getting complimented by those guys. That's going to make him want to be even better than he already is. So unreal leadership job by McDavid there. Just even getting guys to buy in even more and then they can, you know, enjoy themselves at the Four Seasons night.
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Yeah, I, I b, I, I, I.
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Will say that I just kind of wanted to keep that conversation going with like I think that these guys appreciate guys that aren't just like, like they need something that's different. The same reason that McDavid would be saying the same thing every game post game about Hyman. Right. These guys are willing to do things that other guys aren't. And, and also that's not easy. Like Tom Wilson. He's skating the, the red line in warmup every scrum where they're on the ice. Like he's making sure he's the one who's visible. He's the one joshing back and forth. So McDavid could just worry about what the fuck his job is once the puck drops. So pretty remarkable. And that's just a great point by you. Yan's picking that out. You're the best.
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You were, you were complimenting. I think if you asked Marshawn his past to Horvat. Beautiful move by Horvat. He was flying through the middle. You were really raving about the past. I think even Brad Marchand say it was probably the most standard like 20 foot pass he's ever made in his life. Like I more blame, I'm more blame Heronic, Heronic there. If you talk even Brian Boucher did a great or Edzo did a great job. Like what's he doing there? Like it was kind of like that.
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Was Ronick getting sucked in. But the reason, so the reason I complimented the pass was it started before that. He shoulder checked, got in a perfect spot for when the defenseman rounded the net. So he created his own separation when he got it. He did have time to just kind of hang out and stay still.
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He didn't.
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He started sprinting to the red line. So if he didn't have the option to pass, he could have dumped it in. And then I think that, that, that him challenging the red line is why Ronick decided to go up and try to close and to get him before the red line, hoping that that guy would swing and support underneath. So by Brad Marchand getting low, shoulder checking and then taking his ice when he needed to. That's what created the confusion between the, the that four checker forward swinging across and that defenseman trying to get up and close the gap. As a defenseman, you feel like a loser when you have that much separation and all of a sudden he's just kind of skating up. Should he have stayed patient and, and stayed within the dots? Sure. But it's just that kind of like, okay, nobody's there. Nobody's there. All right, I guess I'll go and boom, there. And then. And then he laid it in perfectly. And then. I think McDavid also complimented Horat Horvat. Were saying, I. That's like some sneaky speed because he was flying. I didn't realize he was that fast. So that's kind of what I meant by that. So sometimes things get misconstrued via. Via tweets, as, you know about my bad bunny. Bad bunny one.
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Okay. Also, Crosby was talking about the Marshawn pass to stone. I mean, sorry, Marner pass to stone. And that was to get. To get that thing in the air, but then also have it land that quick. Like, he had to get it pretty high and then to get it to come down that quick to stone. That was. That was an insane pass. Beautiful play there. And those.
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I think he went forehand quick to backhand, too.
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Yeah.
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Like, so he had to kind of move it fast and still execute it. That's the type of pass where, like, I felt like I. I walked in on my wife getting slammed. Like, just like, you know that you're.
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But it was your country that scored.
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I. I know, but, like, how good. No, but you get what I'm saying. Like, kind of like the. The one that got away. You know, it's like, okay, yeah, oh.
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Oh, I'll bring it up to NHL. You're going back to NHL?
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Going by. Yeah. Just kind of like.
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Right.
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It benefits me.
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Yeah.
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Because I. Because I had the prenup. But I still lose my girl. Still walked in.
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Lose your comic.
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Yes.
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Lost the dog down.
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But those. Those are. Those plays, like, especially in these type of tournaments, best on, best that. Like, those are the most fun plays to watch when these guys make those because they're always in the right position when the best are playing with the best. Like, even, like the goal with my Noah. We'll get to it. Matthew and Brady Chuck, like, little plays like that where you. You don't see those as much in a regular season NHL game as you do here. You're seeing them pretty much every shift because it's best players on the ice at all times. So those, to me, are the funnest plays to watch during tournaments.
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Like, this one other thing. The. The post from one of the Flyers fan. I think he's the producer of the Nasty Knuckles podcast. Like, obviously, the Flyers fans have been hilarious through this whole Mech Gov thing.
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And by the way, the best thing.
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On Twitter Right now, by the way. Hook, line, and sinker. Like, I have you guys tweeting at me the minute you wake up to the minute you go to bed. Thank you for all your engagement. Oh, this is what Proger was saying on the Spitting Chicklets podcast.
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I thought Prongs was like, saying, whatever, go ahead. Sorry.
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No, I think he was. He was kind of defending them. They want. They want Prongs as their GM now. Like, have you.
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President and gm, I believe Prongs did say, just play the guy. I can't do the Meatskop talk anymore. I can't. I can't. I can't do it. But. But when they showed Talk it with the whiteboard. Is that what you're going to mention?
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Talk? It has the whiteboard, talk to Crosby. And then the Nasty Knuckles producer has a quotations. Did you see that Meat Scott showed up to camp out of shape? Oh, fuck. This is the gift that keeps on giving. I hope that he plays under 10 minutes the rest of the season. And I'm going to be like, boom.
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Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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I'm going to be beating the goddamn drum.
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I think it would be more entertaining for us if he played like 22 minutes a game and didn't light it up, because then they would have nothing. And then you actually may get some Flyers fans coming to you and being like, I can't believe we went from Team Canada dominating check to Beach Club already. Or.
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Or we go, how are we talking? Twist. And I'm in the beat writer room and Talk walks in. I got a Meech Cob jersey on, and I'm just laying into him like, why did you play a 20 minute.
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I don't give a fuck.
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Why is he playing his offside or something like Mitskov in Russia, they're not in the tournament.
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Or some, like, insane journalist, like, somehow, like, cracks the code of your phone and sees that you and Talk have actually been in. In conversation about you really carving them. And. And that's the real story that you've been doing. What Tom says they were all right, I'm Petey.
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I put a mask on and I'm doing the video breakdowns.
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G asked a question in the chat talking about Bennington. Do you think this makes teams more likely to trade for him at the deadline? No doubt.
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Absolutely.
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No doubt.
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Edmonton, I'd be fine. I would be.
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No, I want. I want the Italian. But I didn't know that. That he's like, signed or drafted by the Ducks. And then right after I tweeted, can The Oilers get this guy. He got hurt, so that was a class.
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The way the Italians get things done. He'll be. He'll be getting to you by June.
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Once the run's over, he shows up, like, as the Cup's being handed out to another team, he's like, we're supposed.
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To have the airplane done 18 months ago.
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It does look good on TV, though.
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It does.
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Yeah.
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It looks.
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They actually should have had the Olympics there and not brought the players in North America. I can admit when I'm wrong.
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Okay, good. If Bennington goes on and they do win the gold and he looks like that. Yeah. There had to be GMs even, like, before this saying, like, he's big game goalie. Like, yeah, I gotta take a risk. But if he does that. Now, granted, he's playing in front of the fucking Harlem Globetrotters, but still, he made a bunch of big saves today. If he's able to win a gold medal as the starter. Yes, G. I think that makes teams way more likely to want to trade for him.
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Yeah, I don't think teams ever wouldn't want him. Just because of what you said earlier, even about Coop knowing that he's going to be his guide. Just because St. Louis hasn't been great this year. Maybe he wasn't great last year, not great this year. He's still got that dog DNA in him that any team would want.
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How many other fucking goalies worse than him are making 6 million bucks? He's not even making that much for a guy you know can get it done. And somebody actually posted a. A tweet saying. I think it was. Oh, God. It was a Toronto media guy. He just kind of. He's just started back up a podcast. He's great. Illuminati. I'll get his name. I think it's Shapiro or something.
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Or.
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I'll get it. But he said if. If he gets. Why are you laughing?
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He said, illuminati.
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Sometimes when my. My wheels are cranking and my hamster's going, I can't hear it.
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Oh, speaking of that, Keith and I, we had a big time moment of that. And not listening to you. You called.
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We're gonna get to that. We're gonna get to that. But the tweet said if. If Bennington wins Olympic gold, I think he's a Hall of Famer. And I agree. What, buddy? Stanley cup champion. He was electric during playoffs. Probably could have easily just got the Con Smythe as. As Ryan O'Reilly. And now he's gonna. Now he's gonna win a gold medal.
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If he goes on Chris Osgood. Wanna, wanna stand the cup. Are you're saying the gold medal does it?
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Buddy, I don't know. Fucking Carrie Price is gonna be a Hall of Famer. He doesn't have a cup or he's got a couple.
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Carrie Price like Vesna's, like he got a gold medal. I mean he, he was unbeatable in 2014. I don't think you could compare those two. No, but.
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Hey, once. If he plays another six years, you can.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Not with the stats from this year though.
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I mean, buddy, what's. What do people care more about? Like, do they care more about like a couple bad off years but then they outweigh it with a. A Stanley cup run and a gold medal? I don't know. It's kind of. It's hard.
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Yeah.
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The whole.
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It's what. It's what you value more, man. If. I mean there's guys who have had three, four years of, of pure domination and, and got into the hall of Fame anyway, we're kind of getting sidetracked. I said Harvey or not Harvey. I said Walker. I said Bern. Bernie Sanders instead of Barry Sanders. Last.
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We missed that.
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Keith.
D
He goes, he looks, he's running like Bernie Sanders.
B
Nurse I. The politician I up.
D
I'm so mad. That's who I vote too.
F
Bernie Sanders could buzz too. I remember seeing his 40 when he came out of college.
D
Yeah, he was flying around.
B
He was me and Bernie, Me and Bernie. Hitting the hash pipe.
D
He was a burner. He was a burner when he played on and off the field, but that was very funny. So Canada looks great. That's their toughest game of the round robin. Gee, do me a quick favor while I go over to the United States game and look up because it's going to matter if the US and Canada both go 3, 0. That's nine points, right? But to get the number one seed, it's more points. And then what is the. The next tiebreaker? G. Check that out for me. It might be gold differential goals for. Because that's going to make a big difference.
B
Room, rooms bunked in the Olympic village.
D
Who stays at the nicest hotel away from every other athlete in the Olympics?
B
I think it goes by thread count.
F
Who do you think makes that call, by the way? The players or the team? Canada.
D
I think Team Canada gave the players the option is what I read. And, and the.
B
Hey, let's. Let's.
D
By the way, like those things, they're, they're Brutal rooms. But, But Canadians being like, well, I get Canadians saying, listen, all we do is win. Why would we Change anything up 100%. Get that. But then I see people chirping, let the Tkachuk brothers put their beds together like Eichel had mentioned. Like, I also really enjoyed the Olympic Village. It is not five star living. It is tiny little beds. So the argument of sleeping well and getting the rest and being physically and mentally where you need to be to win the gold medal, like, yeah, there's an argument for that. But I don't, I don't respect or understand the chirping of the United States being there.
B
No.
F
What about the noise, Their noise thing?
B
Like, is it chirping them for staying at the fucking village?
D
I saw a couple things. Chirping the Tachuk brothers about putting.
B
Yeah. The people bitching about Meech. God's ice time. Same guys. Hey, and let, Let a. Let, Let it be known if I was on Team Canada, which, you know, would never happen, I would be staying with Jarvis's buddies at the Olympic Village. Like, I would be there. So I'm not like we talked about. I would stay at a Motel 6. Yes, I would like to do that. But probably a lot different for, like, Team Canada guys. Getting bothered by other Canadians, like, they're, they're Elvis. Like Sidney Crosby is Elvis to them. So that would just be hard and a little bit wearing where you're trying to make everybody's like, hello to them. The, you know, the best experience of their life, which that's how those guys are. It would suck the living life out of you, man. They got hockey to worry about. So that's the pushback. And if you're saying that that's soft, then sure, whatever. But hey, to glaze the United States before we even get to the men's, the, the, the Canadian men's beat down check. Like the United States women beat down the Canadian women the other day.
F
That was bad.
D
That whole rivalry has flipped biz, I think.
F
Done.
D
I think. Yeah, we are trying to get to the top of the mountain with the men, and we're close, but we haven't done it. I think we flipped it on the women's side and we went young. We went with the young legs. We're flying around out there. And Canada went with a little more veteran team. But that was. I mean, you didn't have Poulin right in the game.
B
No, no. Mary Philip Pullen, lower body injury from the game before. I think that those girls would have a good chance against the Latvian men. They might be. Some of them might be bigger that Layla Edwards.
F
Who do you think would beat the Latvian men?
B
I was just. I was just around. I said US women.
D
I was gonna maybe ask that too, but it's that Abby Murphy girl. Is it Murphy who had that assist for Minnesota? Yeah, she's dominant. I saw a funny tweet like, because Billy G. Was pumping her tires, like, that's my new favorite player. And like, there was a tweet like, oh, he would have left. He would have left her home. Left her at home for J.T. miller. Trocheck. Like, the people can't get over that. I thought J.T. miller looked good today, too, besides getting that goal called back. But, yeah, US Women could see a rematch in that game for the gold medal.
A
They.
D
They might have. They might have flipped this thing on its head.
F
And the US Women are staying at the Four Seasons.
D
Oh, they are?
F
Yep.
D
Good for them.
E
That's.
F
That's how. That's that where they're at right now.
D
Okay. So, yeah, when you dominate everyone else, like the way Canada has in men's, you. You get the five star in it. You don't get. Now the village does have a 24. 7 McDonald's. I don't know. Or they. They did in Vancouver. I don't know how many Canadian men's hockey players are crushing Mickey D's that often, but I certainly was. I was. I was hammering that place non stop. Probably explains why I didn't. I. I played about a minute. I was the Philippe Forsberg Oliver Ekman Larson of the year.
C
Yeah.
B
What's that about?
D
Well, we'll get into that. First, I want to talk about our country biz.
B
Okay.
D
I want to talk about a great effort.
E
Yeah.
D
Crazy to see the goals called back. The first one that was called back offsides by Nelson, I believe that was the Quinn Hughes snipe. I get it.
E
Although the.
D
The camera angle, you. You couldn't really tell. I don't know if they had a different one in Canada in that broadcast, but it was like there was almost the stick of. I don't know who it was. The. The Latvian player was, like, blocking. If Nelson's foot was in before the puck, they decided that it was. That goal was taken off to make it two nothing. They come right back down and score. It's like, whoa. Okay. I mean, that's a huge difference right there. And then the next one. This is the issue that we could kind of have moving forward is the difference in how they're calling the around the crease parts of the game and.
B
Oh, yeah, well, we don't know in the NHL either, so pump the brakes.
F
True.
D
No, very true. We don't know. But I think this is just that much more soft where they can even blow the, they'll blow the play dead right away if they see a guy in the crease, like, bumping the goalie. So I did see a tweet here that that face off and crease play may look different. This is IHF rules, where around the net. Referees may stop play if an attacking player establishes position. So I just said that. Good job, Wet. But I didn't, I didn't really see Miller do that much there. Maybe just the fact that he's in the crease. But there was no, like, bumping into Merce Leakins. I didn't think Biz did you like that call? You look like you fucking smirking. You're giving a.
B
No, no, buddy, I'm not smirking at all. I, I, I assume that it was going to be called back, which is kind of tight, though, because you, buddy, you're asking me my opinion. I was about to, I was about to tweet a song gif on top of of you posting about it, and then I'm like, no, I don't want to get too cocky and I need to let you guys enjoy your, your moment and your game. So better. I was the better person there. Pat. Pat on the back to me. But yes, I did think it was going to be and definitely think it's a little bit softer than NHL. So that's, that's, that's where I'll leave it.
E
Yeah.
F
Cause he didn't, it didn't look like he, like bumped into him and didn't allow him to get to his spot. I guess it was more like he was just there. I'd said that those rules I don't understand. Cause at the end of the day, in the NHL, to score goals, you have to go to the net. You have to have guys in front of the net. And I didn't think Millsy was really impeding the goalies. You know, way to be able to save or to get to his position. I thought it was, I thought it was going to be a goal a hundred percent, but obviously wrong once again.
D
But us. They looked great. Even when it was 1:1 at the end of the first, like, I'm like, oh, they, they looked awesome. They, they had two goals called back. Yeah, the one goal kind of guy busts in into the middle and Eichel. Went to clear it and hit one. I think he might have hit Faber or whoever the defenders was. Skate guy buries it. All right, good job. I do think it was insane that hit that Matthew Matthews. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how that. I kind of was scared right away he might be concussed. Later on he whiffed on a one timer. I'm like, oh, and then that smith's kid, that 18 year old defenseman kind of buried him a little bit. Albert Smith, I guess he could be a very high pick. Looked pretty good actually.
B
Yeah, busy brain there.
D
Yeah. A five minute shift. one point he was dying. But the US Cycle game and we don't have the forwards the United States has, but we got some players and Jack Hughes now. Devil's been great. Pasha, Hop. Hop on here quick.
F
Pasha, you look great, man.
B
Oh no. A bright spot. He looked another tunnel here.
D
Devils fans are furious that, that he wasn't playing. And then I imagine even more angry seeing how good he looked today. Do you not see where he's coming from? A little bit? Yes. I get paid millions of dollars, but my team's a dumpster fire. They stink.
B
I heard he unfollowed him on Instagram.
D
This is the Olympics. Best on best. I'm not going to deal with this garbage team that can't score goals. I'm going to take these final few games off and then be ready for Milan. Do you agree with that or were you.
B
I heard, I heard he was poopy pants about the crop job online.
C
Okay. There's a lot of things to address here. First of all, I think it was just like the timing of it, like a day to day injury, like leading up to the Olympics. I think optically it looks bad. I don't think he was like, I'm pulling shoot on the Devil season, saving it for the Olympics.
B
Yeah.
D
Okay, so those fans saying that you're like, stop, guys, stop.
C
Yes.
B
I heard it was a sore groin from changing Tate McCrae's nationality.
F
How would he get a soy grind from that?
C
But listen, I mean, even if he was somewhat playing it safe to save himself for the Olympics, like.
D
No, I don't blame him.
C
I'm not mad at him.
D
Okay.
C
Devils are a complete joke. Why would he want to play one more shift under Sheldon Keef? Guy's a fucking joke. So.
A
Oh no.
B
Jesus.
C
I mean, that's nothing new.
B
I asked a month ago, do you think keeps the issue? And he was like, no, now he.
D
Wants his head on a platform he's completely off his. Like, the group chat lately could have him in an insane asylum.
B
This is nice.
E
Yeah.
C
No, I did defend Keef, but that's changed a lot.
F
But, no, I don't.
C
I'm not mad at Jack. The fans chirping Jack. I think it was just unfortunate timing with the day to day thing. I'm happy he's there. He looks incredible. And this is a guy that you and Yan said that shouldn't be on the team. So he's gonna continue.
D
No, no, no, no, no.
B
He looked a little out of place at 4.
D
Never, ever said that.
C
You want me to pull up the.
D
Text, I'll pull up the video. I'll pull up the video saying at one point that this is a guy that is so good, so skilled, so fast, that to win the gold medal, we need him to be an elite level. The Jack Hughes we've all seen. That's how good he is. Okay. There was times with the injuries and last year's Four nations where even you said he didn't. He did not look great. He looked a little bit overwhelmed in those games. No.
B
Remember playing against Latvia today?
F
Very true.
C
That's fair. So I don't want to.
B
Just want to bring you guys back down to planet Earth.
D
That is fairly.
C
No, I never said he looked overwhelmed. That was.
A
You.
F
Want me to get the text?
E
I'll pull up the tape on that, too.
C
I said his under the hood metrics were quite solid defensively and he was putting pucks on a platter for guys who weren't bearing today. They happened to Barry. He by. No, he was, I would say middle of the pack in terms of their forwards. Everyone was acting like, oh, my God, he was terrible overwhelmed. No, he was middle of the pack. Was he elite like he can be?
E
No, definitely not.
C
But I never said he was overwhelmed and I think he was actually solid. If guys could bury the chances that he put on the platter, he'd be better. Just like on the Devils. No one could fucking bury a chance that he tees up for them.
B
I love how we planted Pasha the mole in this USA talk. Yeah, well, just like we planted Tate McCrae. This is fucking gorgeous.
D
Don't forget, this is a guy, born and raised in Vancouver, Correct. Who, when Canada won a World Junior game last year, said, fuck. So this is not a guy who can sit there and say he's rooting for Canada.
C
World Junior game.
B
This is just getting ugly.
A
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
B
Can I go to the bathroom?
D
Walking into the 711 next to the Hotel. Don't even fucking start this.
B
Pasha, can we get surveillance?
D
Pasha? Pasha. Pasha, look me in the eye and tell me that you didn't do that. Pasha.
B
No, it was the guy behind the register that looked like Pasha.
D
Yeah, he had money. He had money on check. Oh, fuck. Listen, Pasha, the other thing we want to bring up, ok, so the Devils retweet a picture that I believe USA Hockey tweeted of the Tkachuk brothers and the Hughes brothers. All right. Beautiful picture. Get. I mean, when Matthew gave that pass to Brady, I actually said to my wife, imagine playing with your brother in the other.
B
That's awesome.
D
It's so cool. And they got this picture of the two brothers playing together two sets. And the Devils retweeted and Quinn Hughes is cut out of the picture. But he's not even. It's a hack job where his left leg is still in the picture. I was like, what is going on here? Now it turns out this is a running. Maybe the worst running joke. I don't even get it. Where any picture that Quinn is with Jack, the Devils don't include Quinn. So, gosh, I'm asking. I'm asking.
F
So funny.
D
Can you explain the joke?
B
No wonder the trade didn't go down.
F
Thanks. The media team, when it was first.
C
Posted, yeah, I had a bunch of people text me and say, what is this? And I was like, what the fuck? This is very strange. Especially the fact that they didn't even try to make it look realistic. So I was with you. I was like, this is.
A
Is.
C
This is really weird.
D
And then bush league.
C
But then I came to found out it's a running joke, which I don't think is funny whatsoever, but also, like, read. Read the room. Like, you just fumbled a trade for him. You're. He's still. Like. You're still holding out hope for him to come sign there. So, like, the joke wasn't funny before. It's especially not funny now. So, like, honestly, you know, right now, my fire list is Keith Fitzy, new ownership. Their social media team might have to.
E
Be honest.
D
In the admin boys.
B
He. What about New New Jersey Devils admin? I does not speak for this podcast. This guy is unhinged.
F
No, he wants everyone fired.
B
I've seen him edit sandbaggers. I thought maybe it was him who edited the photo. I thought he was working Devil's Admin.
C
But yeah, not. Not a funny.
B
Read the room.
C
Devil's Admin. Not. That was not funny.
B
That's my public knowledge that they fumbled the Quinn Hughes trade. Is that public?
D
Have we discussed that in Pasha World?
C
Like, well, I mean, I, I think it's obvious. Like, the guy wanted to play for the Devils. Like, literally the Devils just couldn't make the trade happen. Like, I mean, on what planet is that not a fumble?
D
I believe we got to get back.
B
To Team usa, guys.
D
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
D
Thanks, Pasha.
B
Thank you so much. That was highly entertaining. Who were the three most impressive players for you guys on USA Today? Just from watching dominance, who you're more excited to watch moving forward against a harder competition?
F
I'll go. Thompson, Brock Nelson, and I really like Noah Hannifin. Didn't do anything crazy, but I thought he was good defensively.
D
A big hit on the boards at one point.
F
Huge big hit. Yeah. So I, I thought he. I'd take those two because. Yeah, I mean, you can always choose the big dogs. I thought, I need, I need Eichel to shoot the puck a little more on the power play. Did that. Yeah. The TV I had didn't have the announcing on, but, like, he needs to be a threat. He's got such a good shot. Obviously he's a great facilitator too, but yeah, I thought those guys were great. I thought that, that the gold Tage Thompson scored on the power play was incredible. You know, his big body getting in the way. I think, I think he's going to be one of those guys too. When you're playing the, the bigger and better teams, he's going to get even better. Brock Nelson is just one of those guys, man. Like, if you have the hockey iq, he obviously isn't the fastest guy, hardest shot, whatever. This is nothing against them, but he is just so smart. He makes everybody better. And he's probably one of those guys that everyone in that locker room wants to play with. And he, he, he. I thought he was great. I mean, he got two goals or one goal, called back and had two, so could have had the Hattie. Right? So, yeah, I thought those were my three guys that were great. Noah made a ton of good defensive zone plays, good passes. I thought he was stellar.
B
Couple clicks for Yans on that fucking breakdown. A little respect.
D
I, I thought that just leading into the games, it's like, please, can he continue this? I'm sure he will. Quinn Hughes is ridiculous. It is. Watching him skate with the puck and the plays he makes, it is unreal what he could do. He just controls everything when he's out on the ice. We've seen him do it for years in the NHL, but as the game began and you see him buzzing around, getting point shots through. It's like, I, I totally forgot, like. Well, we didn't even have him last year, right? We didn't even get the chance to see him play in Montreal and Boston. And the difference of having him and he is the guy that's kind of starting that first unit power play. And then Warensky too. He wheels the net a couple times. I texted the group. He, he fucking flies as well. Merle said he skates like me. Merles, he. So that, that is true. I've, I've seen and heard people say, yay. Skates like Matt Murley just floating out there on the ice. Merle's invented skating, so why wouldn't, why wouldn't Quinn Hughes skate like him? And, and also, like, I think that the Tkachuk brothers playing together with Eichel in the middle, it's just they're so smart, they're so good out there. Like, the little pass on the Brady goal was beautiful. Couple other little plays that they make that don't look like anything crazy, but create like tons of time and space for the other guy. It's really cool to see. We, we don't have the forwards, but of, of Canada, but I thought the line combinations look awesome. J.T. miller was doing well. He, he got in there. I mean, obviously he gets that goal taken away, but it was a sick pass he made to Quinn Hughes on that goal. Get that. That got taken away. So everyone looked good. I mean, there isn't one guy. I was like, oh, he's kind of not fitting in here.
B
I think that JT and Tro kind of fall in that place. Like we talked about the Bennett and the Wilson. Like, a lot of people on the outside are just trying to vouch for their guys, like Dallas Stars fans and probably Canadiens fans. Would you say that those are the two biggest uproars? Cole. Cole Caufield and Jason Robertson.
D
Yeah. And then Lane Hudson. Hudson was in there.
B
Yeah. But as far as the forwards, like, I just think that against Canada in a final, I, I, I just, I think that those guys are, are less than, maybe a little less intimidated and can fill a need that you don't have to combat. What, what now? Can't you have to play for who you're playing against, too? So if you're looking at Bennett and Wilson in the eye, you're saying, who are the two guys that are just going to be pieces of shit that, yeah, J.T. miller get, might get beat up by Tom Wilson, but he didn't really Give a fuck. He's still going to go at him second, third time. He's a dog, right? So, yeah, I was, I was very impressed with those guys and completely understand the move. So little tire pump there. I. Was there anything else? I was going to ask you guys. Team usa.
D
Well, that, that Larkin line is, is great. And Bush was talking about them or Ed Zo, like Larkin and Thompson. And then right now it's Kyle Connor, who look really good and he's so fast, right. That it, like, fits in well with Larkin, the way he plays. Larkin probably. He ended up, he might have been the best player on the US Last year in the four nations. So having that is like an incredibly skilled, like, checking line in quotations. That's awesome. I also could maybe see because obviously there's some parts of Conor's game that maybe Mike Sullivan isn't a fan of. The only reason I say it is him not playing the final game. Maybe you see Clayton Keller, like, slide in there if he's looking at anything. But Connor was great today. No reason to switch anything up. But that line.
B
I think Kels is also just happy being there. I know that he doesn't feel slighted, you know, hey, man, I'd fill the water bottles if I had to to be here kind of mentality. And what's that?
D
That was what Horvat said after the game.
B
No, I, I know, buddy. That's why I said type of mentality. Like, everybody says that. Like, I literally did that. I called you both in years. I invented that quote, man. I, I, I am the living embodiment of that quote. Okay.
D
Burl's invented that, dude. Come on.
B
Yeah. You're on fire today. Now. I forgot what I was gonna say.
D
I'm sorry. You were saying about that line.
B
Kells would be a great, like, if you need a guy to just slide into your top six to play with the puck and snap it around, he's a guy that you could trust to do that. So happy that he got the nod and. Yeah, what a beauty.
D
And, and Boldy made that save, I believe it was. Was it 11 or 2?
B
It would have made it 21 for Latvia.
D
Yeah, it was tied at that point. Boldy had a great, like, legit, I mean, saved the goal. He also had a little mini breakaway that I kind of, you know, thought he would make a better move based on what we've seen this year. But he's going to be, he's going to be a big part of this team. And, and Genzel was quiet Fine by me. Fine by me. It was Latvia. No problem. The bigger the game, the better he plays, so we know he'll be there when the. When the games get more important. But a great first game. An awesome first game. Hella buck some nice saves. So very excited for. For you, Biz, and for us here after the first.
B
Oh, big time. Big time. And. And you guys already touched on the cut shocks, like, and we talked about the Canadian side of it and, like, the fact that they look at Crosby like Elvis and he might need a little bit more privacy where in the United States, like, there's still a lot of growing of the game to happen, so for them to not only stay in the Village, but you see all the commercials on Peacock, and, like, these guys are probably sitting down throughout the season, like, adding even more onto their plate where. Fuck, man, these guys are. It's so cool that these guys get to play together and they're growing the game and. And. And taking all the extra on their plate as opposed to just having to worry about leading their teams and going to three Stanley cup finals in a row and Brady trying to write the ship in. In Ottawa and dealing with what he's dealt with. So, man, it's like seeing them connect on that goal and then, like, seeing them on all those commercials and. And really helping move the needle. And I mean, you guys have seen the ESPN numbers. Like, like, what. What has happened in the last five years, and the growth of American hockey is. Is. Is massive. Obviously, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, and Detroit being back in the mix is nice, but these guys have done so much to. To take a shoulder, a lot of it off other guys as well. So how is that for a double wrist?
F
They don't look like they're afraid of it. Right? Like, they want to. Like, most guys, especially the way hockey guys are wired, it's like, I don't want to put myself out there, but they're just so comfortable in their own skin. They know what they mean to the game and help getting it to where it, you know, even gets. And it's got to come from having a dad that played in the league and what his dad meant to especially Americans like us. Like, yeah, couldn't agree with you more. Very nice words you said about those fellas, Biz, then. Yeah, they're. They're awesome to watch out there.
B
Also, friendly reminder, wit is my mother was born in Chicago, so there really. There is some American in me, some African American.
D
Okay. Yeah, you got everything covered.
F
You win a Calder Cup.
D
There is. There is a. There There is a. I can't lose difference in mentality between how the Kachuks are kind of approaching it. They're everywhere. They're all over the Olympics. And McKinnon saying, I'm. I'm not. I'm not here to have a good time. I. I think that was the quote. It was basically, yeah, I want to have a good time. I can't.
F
He's like, bo, get me a water.
D
Okay, okay. Biz told me, just fill up the water bottles. Do anything to be here. But the dog made it clear that he is there on a business trip. And the Canucks, I mean, geez, the Canucks, the Chucks are approaching it just a little bit different. My other. Before we get to the Games yesterday, on. On Wednesday, my favorite moments of the Olympics so far is. I don't know if you saw Snoop Dogg sledding. It was. You gotta look this clip up, Keith. The guy's all bombing down the hill. He's everywhere. He's got an enormous USA jacket that says Snoop in, like, size 47 font on the back. It's. It's classic. But him sledding, he was probably going 25 miles.
B
How about that?
D
Where's he getting his weed over there? I don't know. But how.
F
How about the fact, like, he beat a murder charge in, like, 94, and now he's just.
D
Now he's interviewing 20, smoke dope at.
B
The Olympics and be. Be himself. What a fucking gig.
D
That he's, like, dancing with the figure skaters. And it was like, yes, a murder charge a couple of years ago. And fuck, what a life. Good for him.
F
People can change.
D
So we got a shout out, Slovakia, guys, they. They had no expectations. Ranked ninth internationally. They're below Denmark, actually. I couldn't believe that. But nobody gave him a chance. I didn't. At least against Finland, they looked phenomenal. Carried by Slavkovski, who we saw in the Olympics in 2022. I think he was 18. He had seven goals. Definitely had a big part of him going first overall. And he came out flying. Beautiful goal. Kind of like waits out the goalie on the first one, then his shot on the second goal, bar down Soros. Like, he didn't even react. By the time that thing hit the. Hit the crossbar and went in, he looked great. Slovakia, I don't know. Gee, if you can look up, how many NHL do they have? But they put a beat down on Finland. I don't know what was going on. And with these European countries, some of the ice time, it's so Confusing. And Ronson, in a game that Finland never led for one second, played like 15 minutes. It's like, I don't. I don't get that. I don't understand what the thinking is. But Slovakia just kept coming and coming. Couple bad turnovers by Finland. I don't know if either one of you guys had a takeaway from that game besides a little bit of shock. At least that's where I was.
F
Yeah. Do you think it's like some of those with the teams that don't have all NHL guys, where there's some European guys, Maybe these. The coaches have had these guys for a couple months or a couple years where they're like, nah, these guys are. Haven't been playing with the same guys. They're playing in the NHL. We're gonna like the Philip Forsberg situation. Like, I think it's so fucking crazy, me. You have the best players in the world playing the NHL. If you have guys on your team that play in the NHL, they need to be playing the most on your team.
B
100% almost. In that type of matchup where you take Barkov out of the lineup and then you take more guys who are more familiar with playing with one another from Slovakia, I'd say advantage to them being on the same page. And if they're bo. They're like, hey, boys, we let. Let's fucking come in there and stun these guys. And that's what they did. That's such a huge win for them. And, man, now. Now Finland has to play Sweden next game. If they go 02, are they essentially out of.
D
No. Because everyone moves on.
E
Really? Yeah.
F
So the top four, they'll just get a lower seed.
D
Three division winners get a buy, and then the fourth team with the most points and then the tiebreakers get involved.
B
Okay. I just assumed.
F
So if they came in like last, they could be playing USA or Canada or whoever rolls the table. First game, which. That's a no sex.
D
Yeah. Second game, basically, they'd have to get through that to get to the quarterfinals.
B
So five, that's a tough one.
D
Like five will play 12, six will play 11, and so on and so forth.
B
Or is it.
D
Yeah. And. And then those. Those winning four teams end up playing against the top four teams who got buys in the quarters.
F
I wonder what the lowest Finland has ever finished. I feel like they're always at least in the top four.
D
Yeah. And that was the first game. But no Barkov. It's like I'd have run to an out there 23 minutes.
B
Yeah. Yeah. I would say that there's no greater loss to a team than Barkov is to Finland, because then he can. Matt. It frees up everybody. So that's. That's devastating. And we'll see where that ends up going. You said favorite moments from the Olympics. You mentioned that the one before we started that conversation. That. How about the guy who. Who won a bronze medal and then was like, yeah, I fucking cheated on my girlfriend three months into our relationship and got busted. And I mean, hey, after.
F
Did you hear about. After. He was like, hey, actually, that wasn't live. Right? We're not going to.
B
I. A lot of. A lot of emotion coming at you in that moment. You. You medal, maybe you have no expectation to. And you tell the whole world that you fucking. Three months in. You. You got. You. You dipped your pen.
D
I mean, I thought they were together 10 years. It was a six month relationship. I'm like, jesus, bro. I think he was just trying to get his dog back. I really do. I think he was trying to get his dog back. She took the dog and he's like.
F
I got too many times.
D
I got to get that fucking beagle back. Let me tell you, I'm.
B
I start dating her. I got. I lost two, but I added one. A fucking hell of a trade.
F
Do you think. Do you think that that girl takes him back?
B
She commented after basically like Basie saying, like, not only did I not ask to get cheated on, I didn't ask to be kind of like dragged into this publicly about how this whole situation. So double whammy. Double whammy. I think restraining order. He might lose his. He might lose his bronze.
D
She gets out, she's like, this will get her back. I'll show her. I'll show the world how much I fucked up.
F
She's like, I never even met him.
D
All of a sudden he's catching a charge. This guy won't leave her alone, for Christ's sake.
B
So did he get a new dog collar? No, that's your bronze medal.
D
His coach is like, dude, I've been helping you out for like years. Planning for this, like, maybe Chuck a compliment my way. No, you're bringing up the girl you cheated on three months ago. Yeah, that was. That was.
B
It was with the coach. Fuck, man. That was crazy. But positive. More positive. The. The downhill skiing, the luge. The two man luge with the. With the guys sitting on each other.
D
Just like a dick in your butt the whole way down the mountain.
F
Crazy nuts. The buts, baby.
D
Crazy sport. I saw Brandon Walker and I think it was Titus. Brandon Walker.
B
That's the name of the sport. It's called Nuts to Butts.
D
Mo. Mostly sports barstool. They. They like, kind of like recreated one, I think on set at their. In their studio. It definitely looked awkward, let alone going like 70 miles an hour.
B
There's one where there's three guys.
D
Is it.
B
And that's called.
D
And he's. And he's like toe to. Toe to mouth. So it's like the 69 triangle one.
B
Where they do the reverse. 69.
D
Okay. Yeah.
B
Going down too.
D
That's.
B
We should have our own luge comps. But what. The reason I was getting to that was the. The drone footage and how it's able to follow it. So especially on the downhill skiing, you get this perspective where you're like, oh my God, like one wrong turn and. And I mean, you saw it with Lindsey Vaughn and that could be another topic of conversation. That was pretty sad. We'll. We'll get to the Lindsey Vaughn stuff later. But I wanted to tire pump the drone. Drone stuff.
D
Yeah. The drones are sick. And I do have a. An issue with some judges. Maybe we'll get to that in ra's World. But we do have to bring up Sweden. Italy. And I didn't see any before that. I didn't see any. I saw Germany won 31 today over Denmark. Leon had a goal. Stutzel had the other two goals. Kind of what we were talking about. So I don't. I can't even give anything on that game because it was the same time as the US game. So Germany kind of expected them to win that game. That'll be a fun one. Us versus them. Just seeing the stars. Germany has. But Sweden. Italy. Shout out. Italy. I mean, unbelievable. The atmosphere in there was crazy. They go down one nothing. Sweden did one one. They make it two one. Italy ties it again. That's when I was like, what is going on? Then I got the goalie injured. So the goalie putting on a performance of a lifetime. And I don't think Sweden should like panic by any means. They won 5 2. But it was kind of crazy where I think maybe they went into the game like, ah, this is going to be a cakewalk. You think? Something like that. Now the first goal was a horrible rebound by Gustafson, but surprising.
B
Who? Da. Da. Damian. Clara Clora is a Clara or Clara Damien?
D
Clara. I believe he's part of the Ducks organization.
B
Second rounder.
A
Pretty cool.
D
He was actually the first Italian ever.
B
Drafted to the NHL to sign an NHL Contract.
D
Really?
F
Wow.
E
Yeah.
B
Also helped build the rink.
F
Yes.
D
That was cool.
F
That's why he got hurt. Because he was tired. Yeah, he was, he was overworked.
D
Sauce.
F
But there's nothing better when the host team, especially in a sport where they're not gonna, you know, be looked at to win or medal or anything. Like when they can put on a good show for their audiences, put up a good fight, just show the pride. Because I mean, Italy's been crushing it in. In other. Other sports. But yeah, it reminded me of. Was it Latvia a couple years ago when Teddy Nolan was coaching Latvia and they had a goalie make like 60 something saves and like just the way that a team or a country can rally behind those guys. Because we talked about it, I think with prongs where it's like these guys who don't play in the NHL and never will. Like, this is. I mean, I know it's the Olympics, but it's their super bowl beyond super bowl. Like it's their time to show and you get. You got to be happy for them. And I hope they play well the whole tournament and at least keep, you know, their fans into it and, you know, give. Give teams good fights.
D
The atmosphere in the rink seems awesome for all these games. Like the Czech crowd seemed crazy before the. Before during the beginning of the Canada. Check Canada's.
F
Canada's locker rooms at the Four Seasons too. They don't even get dressed.
B
Yeah, they go in those states.
F
They lose over.
D
They go back to intermissions too. They do the two man luge. Crosby. Crosby and McKinnon get to like ride nuts to bots back to the hotel.
B
This is your nuts to butts intermission report. How big is it? Didn't even reach the hole because my glutes are too big.
D
Back to the Forsberg thing. It was crazy. I think he played a minute one shift and Oel Oliver didn't play one second of that game.
B
He got Whitney.
D
Got Whitney. I. I never sat on the bench all game. I got a shift and like to see Oel and how he's played now if Sweden's D is good. But that decision is so bizarre. Like, I don't even know why you wouldn't like say there's injuries. I mean, you see Morrissey go down, you kind of want everyone involved. There's going to be a seventh D, but he could play five, six minutes. I don't really get it. The coach, when asked about it, he brought up that in 2006 when Sweden won that the Sadie's Were like, on the third line. It's like that's.
F
They were also young in 2006.
D
Yeah, and it's a little different. It's a little different than Forsberg playing one minute when he's. I mean, if not the best. One of the best goal scorers on that Swedish roster, maybe there's a.
B
An injury with the Forsberg situation. Who knows?
D
But he declined to talk to the media after, so I don't know, like.
F
And it almost seemed like the coach was being a little, like, bitchy about it. Like, he was, like. Didn't want to even talk about it, where it's like, hey, guy, this is one of the best players in the world, and you're not playing him. You got to answer some questions.
B
Yeah, well, he also got asked why Meech Coff was out of shape.
D
He did. He did. Yeah.
B
No, but. And Buddy fucking Oliver, Stanley cup champion. He's represented his country before. I feel like that's a slap in the face. That's a slap in the face.
F
But do you think it's one of those things where they came to him before was like, hey, you're probably not going to play a lot, but would you rather be sitting on the bench or, you know, be the guy in the locker room? And he's like, I want to be on the bench just in case something happens and then they can put him in. I hope they just relayed the message to him.
B
But in a game like that, I.
D
Mean, I know, I know that's. That's a good question. Like, going into that game, are both of them, like, sitting there, like, waiting for the call? And then they're like. After, like, four minutes, they're like, oh, wait, I'm not playing at all.
B
Did you have a buddy on the bench next to you?
D
Yeah, Bobby Ryan.
B
Okay, so it's just you and him shooting the.
D
And then every TV timeout, we would go out and do what we called meat laps. You know, like the laps you used.
B
Oh, yeah, Loser laps.
D
Yeah, loser laps to keep your legs loose. And we'd be yelling at my feet lap. And the guys would be laughing. I'm like, job well done, Bobby. Good job. And, Biz, you brought this up. Speaking of TV timeouts, incredible to see the difference.
B
Don't even get me started.
A
Holy.
B
Get me started. The flow of the game, so much better. So much better. All these people, the owners will never go for it. Like Gary Bettman and. And whoever's making the overall decisions need to watch that product. It gets more people involved. The Flow of the game gets everybody into it. There's no need for three TV timeouts.
F
With, with the way that they're changing out the ads on the boards and on the ice. In like, when is the last time you sat on your couch, watched a commercial, didn't grab your phone and. Or bought something off of a commercial like commercial should be done.
D
I do wonder who buys things from commercials. And speaking of the board ads, they're not there either. Kind of nice. It's like, oh, I kind of forgot what this looked like. But biz you've. Going back to last year, I think you brought this up. Make the intermission longer. One TV timeout during the game.
B
Now go get a better. For the concessions. You're not rushing up and trying to rush through lines. I think the. Yeah, I think the ice, the ice.
F
Will get nasty, though. Like, you don't realize how nasty it gets after. If it, if it was only one scrape, period, it would be.
B
Here's. So here's my, here's my rebuttal to that. I don't think they let the ice dry enough. That's part of the problem. If you have longer. If you have two Zambonis, get out there right away. Listen, listen. I love the game op stuff, but I don't need to see the fucking sumo wrestlers out there. I don't. I don't need to see the game we played when we were in Pittsburgh. I don't think.
D
Well, you've been ranting and raving about the Blackhawks bringing back the smoke shows for the center ice.
B
That is one. One stipulation. That's one that should be stay in the hallway. Yeah. So, yeah.
D
It is pretty cool though, the lack of. The lack. There's one break after the minute.
B
You don't grab your phone. Like Yan says, you're engaged the whole time. It's going like the commentators can get in flow. The fact that in, in NHL games, I would say through the 82, there's probably about 15 to 20 of the games that you play in a year where you'll have a TV timeout and then two and a half, three minutes of gameplay later, you have another TV timeout. It's a fuck. It's the dumbest thing in the world. It's. It's. Everybody's just bored, takes the flow. Fuck off. I agree with you guys as well. So do you think they should implement that in the NHL right now?
F
100%.
D
I. Yeah, I. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening. But I love your idea. I think It's. I think it's like the idea of playing less games. Like, if anything, they might add a fourth TV timeout.
B
Everybody keeps going. Money, money, money. When. When. That's the answer. You're. You're doing more in between periods to make up for it. And even if you don't get there, the Pittsburgh Penguins were bought for six or $700 million less five or six years ago. Off with telling me the money. Like, literally shove it up your ass.
D
It was like 900 million to 1.8 billion. It was. It doubled.
B
And. And then they. And then they did the. The switcherooski to Utah. So the owners can all get that, right?
D
Yeah, yeah.
B
And then now they're gonna go two more expansion at 1.7 billion minimum to more of the owners. So I don't want to hear about this TV timeout. Money, money, money. Come on, come on. And. And you get to control another best. A best on best. And. And just. We were talking about Slovak and Chechia like, no politic, like, all the politics aside, imagine those two nations were still together and you had Russia. You'd have six powerhouses.
D
Yeah, right.
F
That would play them together.
B
Look at how I thought the Czechs played the Canadians very hard. Where. If all of a sudden you mix in the slowbacks in the. That's how it used to be, right? That's six fucking powerhouses, man.
D
So with that, I think we could throw it over to a good friend of ours, a guy who's crushing it. On the intermission and broadcast with NBC, TJ Oshi, Olympic hero, back in the day against Russia in Sochi in 2014. He came on. This was a great chat. Did it, I want to say, about 10 days ago, and I hope you guys enjoy. Guys, we're going to take a moment here and talk about Kraken this February. Funding your Kraken account could earn you a serious bonus. From February 2nd to March 2nd, Kraken will match 3% of your net deposits, capped at $1 million. That's up to $30,000 in bonus value just for moving cash or crypto to Kraken. To join, opt in through the Kraken app and make sure auto earn is turned on when you do. After that, you're in. Just deposit, hold, and earn your match. Your bonus lands after the promo end. Learn more@kraken.com FDM terms apply. Not investment advice. Crypto trading involves risk of loss and is offered to U.S. customers, excluding New York and Maine, through Payword Interactive Incorporated. DraftKings, Sportsbook is built for hockey on the world stage. Favorites feel the pressure. Underdogs rise. Everyone's skating for gold. DraftKings sportsbook lets you back your country or the team you ride with every step of the way. Every shift feels bigger, every puck matters more, and one play can turn the entire game. New customers can bet just $5. And if your bet wins, get 300 in bonus bets. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app and use code Chiclets. That's code Chiclets. Bet $5 to win 300 in bonus bets. If your bet wins in partnership with DraftKings Sportsbook, the crown is yours.
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D
Welcome now to a very special guest, probably even more special when the Olympics roll around. Because this man. Why, I'll never forget it. Biz, you wouldn't know. You're too dumb. Your head's stuffed in the clouds. But tj. Oshi, what's going on, buddy? Actually, Osh, you are a kind of a sneaky superstar announcing hockey games right now. I love it.
E
I appreciate it. I can honestly tell you I feel comfortable. 0% of the time when I'm speaking, I'm like. I feel like I speak too slow.
D
I.
E
My thoughts don't come to me fast enough. But I appreciate you boys. It's always fun being on the show.
B
It doesn't change either. I still feel the same, but I'm actually dumb. So there's a. There's a difference.
E
I know. But you. You're so. I feel like you're so good at it. I don't think you're dumb. I think you're smart.
D
And.
E
Oh, I think I. I do again. I don't know.
B
Fool them again.
F
Being nice.
B
Yeah. I was going to ask you. Oh. Since it's the Olympics, and I'm sure there's a lot of players that are listening that are going, what are some. Some must needs to pack for an Olympics? Like, give me your. Give me your, like, handful. Maybe top five things that you need to pack before you go over there.
E
Oh, I mean, for me, it was like a pack of cards and a bunch of cash.
B
That's it.
C
That's.
E
I. They. They kind of give you everything you need, right? And you're, you know, you're just wearing, like, the team sweats and. And whatever. If I could have kind of. If I could have redone it, I would have brought a lot of snacks because we just had, like, all the Russian food, right? But, like, they made, like, Americanized stuff, but it's still not what we're used to. So I would have brought, you know, frozen hamburgers, some pizzas. I ate McDonald's, I think, every day of the Olympics.
B
That's why you scored on the shootout like that.
F
But it. But Italy food's gonna be a little different than. So true.
E
That'll probably be a little. Yeah, it's gonna probably gonna be pretty good. They're gonna have some good pastas.
D
And so I was in Vancouver and still eating McDonald's, like, that's probably a tough look for me.
B
That's why Torch had you parked right in the middle of the bench.
D
Yeah. Sit down with. Oh, what's cool is that. So how many games have you done in between the benches or color now? Is it like three or four?
E
It's three games between the benches. And then I did. I've done three in the booth. Two with Monumental, so with the Caps, but it was three of us in the booth, so that's. I did that two nights ago here in D.C. and I definitely prefer between the benches. It's unbelievable how much easier it is to see, like, the little things going on. And, like, we're used to watching it from there, right? So, like, that's when you see plays develop. Like, that's where you are when you're up top. You're like, God, these guys suck. Like, look how much space is out there.
D
I know. It's crazy, man.
E
It's easy to pick apart the game from up there. When you're down at the bottom, you're.
B
Like, oh, my gosh.
D
Like, I'm convinced. That's why GMs, who oftentimes played are end up being like, this guy sucks. It's like, dude, I don't know.
E
And.
D
And all of us are guilty. I think, to a certain extent, of. As you get out of the game, you watch up top, you're like, ah, what's wrong with this guy? Get down there. And Biz said it because he did the Buffalo game down close, you're just blown away by the speed.
B
I was amazed. And. And even though you're only, like, a little Bit removed. Do you still. Are you still overwhelmed at the speed? Like, do you feel like every year just kicks up another notch?
E
I think it's like the. The. I don't know if it's ne. It's like, the acceleration that these kids have when they, like, get the puck. So I don't know if, like, top speed really makes a difference, but, like. Like, it's like, when they get the puck and, like, there's a transition. Like, everyone is just gone. And I. I don't know. Like, there's a little bit less hitting, so I don't. I don't really love that. But. Yeah, like, down there, like, right when it started my first game, and you. And, you know, Biz, like, being down there, like, if you have to, like, speak to, like, what's going on and things are happening and you're waiting for your time to get in, but then, like, three things have happened since that one thing you want to say, you're like, oh, I guess I'm. Guess I can't talk about that anymore.
B
Yeah, put that on.
D
I was banking on saying that, too.
E
I mean, there's so many. I've. I'd say a majority of the things that I want to say never get on air because, like, so much stuff happens that you just can't. You just can't do it. But it's. Man, these kids are, like. They move nowhere near what I remember it being like.
D
I notice. I think you're right. Besides, a few guys, like, top speed has always been pretty incredible, but guys get it standing still now or barely moving. And just back in our day, at least for, you know, Mew and me Biz, like, you'd get caught now. Boom. It's those first three strides with the puck that you're like, how did he create separation there? Like, he didn't even have any momentum when he got the biscuit, and he's still, like, creating a chance, so that's a good call.
E
I think the. The. It seems to me, like, the way that they're, like, able to get on, like, edges in, like, weird positions. Like, for me, it was like, if I tried to do that, I would just come to a stop. But they, like, keep moving, you know? I don't know. Like, my hips. I mean, I would have three hip surgeries if I skate like these guys now.
F
Are you doing any TV work for Olympics? You going over there? What's your plan as an American hero?
E
I would go that far, but I. I am working for NBC. I'll be in Stanford Connecticut, 15 days. I think it's like 15, 14 days. So I got, I probably got to get going on my homework for like some of the last names for some of the guys that aren't in the NHL.
F
Yeah.
E
But you know, I'm a rookie, so I'm coming in. I think I got like 4, 6, 10am puck drops and we'll be calling the game. So yeah, it's going to be difficult, but it's gonna be super cool just to like be involved with it. And NBC was actually so good to me, like after the Olympics get me to like the American Century championship and like things like that. And I'm just like holding on for dear life, trying to stay in it.
D
That.
E
But yeah, so it'll be, it'll be cool to be back and see that. And I had hoped when I originally like applied for it that I get to bring the kids out there. My wife was. Lauren was eight months pregnant with our first one. High risk pregnancy. She was born with gastroschisis. So like, to go out there and, and be born there was like a little risky because we had all of our doctors biz. That's when like they're born with their intestines outside their body and. But she's doing good. She's like the fastest kid alive now. She's. She's great. But yeah, so like my family, Lauren didn't get to go. My kids obviously weren't born yet. And so that was like. I was like, this is my chance. Like, get them out there. Show them dads. Like, was cool at one point, but we'll be doing it from Stanford and it's still great. I'm super, super honored and blessed to be able to do it.
D
I really, really was hoping you were going to then describe to Biz what a doctor was so that, I mean, that's what I thought was coming. I was like, this is gonna be the best.
E
Sorry, I'm not, I don't do that.
B
No. I'm used to being these guys doormat. I. I mentioned how addicted I am the fly fishing. Yeah. It's keeping me honest though. The other day I said that I've been fly fishing one time and then they proceeded to roast me for about five minutes.
F
Would you consider yourself like being addicted to something if you've done it one time?
E
I think it's. It depends on what it is.
D
Never thought about it after.
B
Thanks, I appreciate you. I needed you on this pod today.
E
I. I have a heart. I just, I'm not one of those chirping guys when I. So if you don't. I feel like if you don't come in starting chirping guys, if you wait like 10 years or something and you say something, people are like, God, I was rude.
D
Like, yeah, he's mean. You know what I mean? And so.
E
Because I was always. I was. I'm like. Was extremely shy when I was younger. And so now, like, even if I try to do something, they're like, God, osha's an.
B
And then you feel terrible for like a week because you try.
E
Yeah. It eats away at you forever. I still think about something I said to high school teammates, like, back in world. Like, I still think about it, and he took it the wrong way. And I'm like, I'm just like the worst human being. But I don't want to talk about. I'm embarrassed.
F
I'm like, still lay down on the bed.
E
Yeah.
D
Actually, speaking of laying down on the bed. So we had Barrett Jackman on. And you talk about how, you know, you weren't a chirper. You were just a good guy, good teammate. You actually warming up his bed is one of the nicest things I've ever heard.
E
I. So I was. When I came into the league, we had, like, you know, we had Kinger, Cam Jansen, Jax. I was like. And Jax has, like, those eyebrows and like, that stare, right? He's just, like, scary to look at.
D
Skull.
E
And I was scared of everyone, so I was like a super rookie in, like, a good sense. We're like, I will do anything.
B
You're checking yourself.
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seriously, who did that?
E
So. Yeah, but Jax. Jax is. He's like, my end up being like my big brother kept me out of a lot of. A lot of trouble in the. In the younger years. And, yeah, he was. He made it like a joke, like, yeah, I go warm up my bed or whatever, and I went up and did it and. And he, like, liked it. I'm more of, like, a cold bed kind of guy, but.
D
Me too.
E
And so every pregame skate, I was like, all right, Jax is. Yeah, he's on his ice cream.
B
I'm going, would you. Would he make you do the toilet, too? Yan's isn't like sitting on a cold toilet.
E
No, I would do that.
F
That.
E
Like, I'm in for that. Yeah, that's a good call. Warm toilet is. If you don't know who was before you, though. Like an airport. You're like, I don't know.
B
Oh, yeah, I don't know.
F
I'm more like the bidet warmer. The. You know how like the bidet. I can't.
B
If I go on the road and.
F
Have a cold butt cheeks, I'm done. Can't do it.
E
Doesn't come out.
F
Doesn't come out. Get shy. Shy booty.
B
The funniest part about hearing it was you're doing like the snow angels in there fast.
F
I get friction.
E
You don't know where he's gonna get in. Then by the time he came in, I get out and I'd get that nice full triangle fold, you know, so you can just slide right in there.
F
Hey, there's a bacon strip in the middle of the bed.
E
He's about to wipe.
F
Good.
D
I made sure.
E
No, I, I was, I was close, but that would have been. Yeah, that's something one of the other guys would have done.
F
Did you just check into your hotel or do you make your bed like an absolute legend?
E
No, I knew I was coming on spin checklist. So I was like, you know what? I better, I better get this thing.
D
Does the episodes in the bed with it messy with like, you know, those towels next. Yeah.
F
I was walking around the room.
E
Oh, I'm a. I walk in and it's a absolute. I. I throw everything everywhere. Like, look at this desk. Like, I just kind of tossed everything in like one little corner.
D
Just all those vitamins.
B
Yeah. Is that you stop on supplements?
E
Yeah, just like, you know, I did like the, you know, like the blood test stuff and I need those. I'm not a big like pill guy. So like these are. What are they called? Row robot. It's just like little liquid. So. Yeah, I just like. Quick shot, quick shot, quick shot. Go through, you know, try to stay up on the health. I can't really work out, so I'm just trying to, you know.
D
Yeah. Workout. I know the back and stuff, but you look great.
E
Yeah, thanks. I. Yeah. Just eating and stuff.
D
Okay.
B
Do you do like anything other than just like regular supplements? Like, do you do any like. Are the peptides which. That quickly mentioned it?
E
I. I don't do. No, honestly, like, I'm. This is like the most busy I've ever been in my entire. I don't have time for like, I don't. I don't even have time to work out. Like, I can maybe do push ups before bed or something. But no, I'm. And I'm not if anyone. Anyone that knows me. I'm like a very like go with the flow, no plan kind of guy. And I'm just, I'm like, just. I'M drowning boys, like, with all the, you know, just like, the different. I'm working for the Caps, too, and, like, business upside, too, with, like, sponsorships and things like that and all the. And waro going on. And so I'm just. I'm just trying to keep up, so. But no working out. And I. I don't do any of the cool. The cool health things. I just try to eat somewhat healthy and that's it.
F
Do you have an assistant that's, like, helping you out, planning your weeks and stuff like that?
E
No. Yeah. Yeah, the boss lady. She's, you know, she helps. She helps, like, try to keep me on track. I gotta. I got a great agency and I had a switch from. From my hockey agent with the Montag Group.
D
But.
E
No. And they help. Try to help me stay on schedule, too. But just, you know, it's like the prep, like, in the. Getting things ready and then the meetings and all that stuff. So I'm just. I'm like. I'm like, strictly an athlete, and so I'm trying to be a professional, and it's. I'm not great at it.
B
It's. It's a. Yeah, it's a little bit of an adjustment, but do you enjoy the fact that you're. You're dabbling in a little bit of everything, and do you think that maybe you'll eventually narrow it down and choose a lane and do you think that will be media or would you rather be on the management side?
E
I. I don't know. I. I do like that I'm trying everything. And that was kind of my thing. Like, well, I'm still relevant. Like, let's just, like, let's get on tv. Let's do this other stuff. Actually, my. It was my wife, Lauren, that She just, like, loved my interviews, which. Interviews are so much easier than, like, having to have an opinion and say something, but, dude. And so we kind of. I was like, oh, I'll give it a try. And I'm liking it. I'm. I like, trying to make players look good. And so, like, I won't get super negative. I'll just. I really want to show that, like. Like, these NHL players are just as good at hockey as, like, NFL players are at football. You know what I mean? But they get a lot of positive. You know, they never show the mistakes. They always show the great throw and, like, the catch with, like, dragging your feet. So that's kind of like my goal for there. But I do like them trying everything. My goal. I think my dream job would Be. To be like an assistant coach and, like, power play, forwards, skill stuff. But I got, you know, four young kids and those guys, they. They have no time. Right. And so the video.
D
The video is what is, like, insane to me. I mean, it's hours and hours a day along with the travel. So it's like you're. You're a player with the travel and how much you're gone, but it's actually even more because you're at the rink way longer. Yeah.
E
You're there you. You know, an hour before the players, you leave like a couple hours after. I don't know what. There. There's got to be. There's no way that there's. You can watch that much video. No, I mean, there's no way. It has to be simpler than that.
B
That.
E
Yeah, I would think. But I would love to help players with, like, the, like, almost like the mental side of the game and, like, what to think, when. Where to look, when. I think it would make, like, a lot of these skilled players. It doesn't seem like there's like a ton of, like. Like the really smart hockey players anymore.
F
Right.
E
I don't know if you guys notice that or not. Everyone seems incredibly skilled and incredibly fast and can score and create offense, but, like, it's someone like, the. Even, like, guys, like, like, getting, like, ran over by Tom the other night, like, just don't, like, in that moment.
D
Like, don't do that or know who's on the ice.
E
Know who's on the ice. But, like, if you're. If you're gonna make a play or whatever it is, and you're gonna whip around like, your head can't be the first thing that turns in that moment. Like, it's your body and you're like this. Right? So if you're. You might get hammered still, but at least they hit you and, like, go, like, over you. They don't, like, you know.
B
Are you talking about the Stankhoven hit against Carolina?
E
Yeah.
B
I feel like the NHL and player safety has done a way better job over the last, like, three, four years, putting more of the onus back on the guy who's getting hit rather than just throwing sussies at guys. They've cleaned that up.
E
Yeah. Any of those hit. I mean, I got rocked plenty of times and I was like, even the ref would come like, hey, dude, that, like, that was my bad. I. I can't do that. I can't put myself in a position one. I'm gonna get hurt.
F
You were really good at, like, Baiting guys to think that they had a chance to hit you and you'd see them before and then just reverse show them. But guys don't do that. Even like Stankhoven could have looked, saw him, faked, and then brought the show. I mean, you're not gonna knock over Tom Wilson, but.
E
But you the right leverage though, because he's big, right? And so you let him come to you and if you're low, you explode up, up. And then his momentum, you just have to lift them off their skates a little. And then they. It looks like a massive hit, but really you just lifted his skates up and then they. They like flip, right? So that's. I always love hitting the big guys because it wasn't. You don't try to run through them. You try to get their feet off the ice and then they just flip over.
B
Do you think there should be more hockey schools?
F
Like, with.
B
With situational stuff? Like, how do you think that we improve that? Like, how. I think they've done a great job in the way that they're now allowing junior players to go to college. Like, I think that that's a great transition before you end up getting a pro to where basically I feel like college has become like a. Like a mini ahl.
E
Yeah.
B
Like, what do you think they can do to continue to. Maybe. Because now the skill set has. Has taken that next step and the skating and all that. How do you match the intelligence?
E
You know, I think. I think it's like. It's like, like older, like from all my. A lot of my stuff was like my. The older guys, like, talking, like, teaching me, or like the coach would pull me aside and do like a quick little one on one video session. Not like hours, but like for like a wall play. For example. Like, if the puck's rimming around the wall, like, and you have a D man pinching down on you, like before that rim happened. You should already like, be seeing where's my Centerman? Is there F3 above or below them? Who is it? Is it someone like McMichael? McMichael who loves to get out of the zone? Well, then I gotta tip the puck more diagonally to like the. The neutral zone. Face off dot by the blue line. If it's someone like Stromer who likes staying low, then I know I gotta come below and like all that information. Like, if you just show them, like, where to look, the more information you have, the easier it'll be to like, make plays. You know what I mean? But I feel like these kids, they, they're, they're so skilled and so fast. They just, their, their heads just. They don't know everything that's going on. And so I think it's like little things like that, that, like all that information, you teach them how to like absorb that and what to look for and then their skill. I mean, they're gonna make way better plays than I made, you know what I mean? Because they have the ability to do it and like open their hips up and do this, all the, all this other stuff, but it's like little things like that, like the, like the rim wall play. I mean, I, I thought like at least 75 of the time it should either get out of the zone or get to my centerman if I, if I did the, my job where. Which means I know where everyone's coming and what they're doing. If the demons on the wall, if his skates are open, it sticks to the middle or not like little things like that. So just like helping them like gather all that information without overloading it. But you know, you can like go one piece at a time.
B
When I think you were the one who pointed it out, it was the Will Smith one in the offensive zone last week where he did the shoulder check and then found Celebrini. So, so some of these guys are good at where they, they turn their head and they can, they, it's like they have a photo. They take a photograph.
E
Yeah.
B
Even if they're not looking, they can make the play blind because they know exactly where that guy is going to end up. So that's a great point though.
D
It's actually, he's almost uncommon that he's very super skilled, but he's not a burner and he's not enormous. But he's like the hockey IQ guy. Yes, the skill is out of control and stuff, but, but it's more likely you're, you're, you're going to find a guy who you know is 2:10, 2:15 flies and maybe doesn't have the same type vision and stuff. Like more of those guys are going to be making it now the toothpaste is out of the tube, where I don't really know if it ever goes back to super smart hockey players all over the ice on all these different teams when you're like, hey, I can get a guy who is faster than anyone else, he's physically strong and he's going to be north, south, that's kind of where the league has gone. And you miss, you miss certain plays Plays like Will Smith and that. Or, or, or just passes to open ice where guys skating into it as opposed to just like cycling it down low, which is great. And then you get Celebrini, who does it all and then that's the true superstar.
E
So yeah, celebrity is my. Honestly, I think he's my favorite player. I, I've covered him like three games this year. And so like each game I would watch back like a couple games or like watch all of his shifts. I'm like, man, this kid is like, I would have loved to play with this kid. He looks like he's always trying to do like the right thing, but then his skill level just. He's unbelievable.
D
Or even saying it looks like he's always trying.
F
Yeah, yeah.
B
You were saying at BU you marveled at how every single drill in every single practice he was going 110. Where sometimes these kids, like who are the highly skilled ones, think it's a, ah, I'm too cool to go full, full bore all the time.
D
And oh, you were like that. Like, no joke. I remember like every practice it was like you're doing, you're going to drill against Oshi, like he's bringing it like it's playoffs. That was what celebrini, he was 17 at BU and you know, even a 3 on 0 at the beginning of practice, he's like, he's bearing down, he's burying rebounds, he's sprinting out of the zone after. When some guys is just like, you see it, you could tell right away like this, this kid's a little, little bit different. Yeah.
E
He's got to compete, right? He's.
D
Yep.
E
He just wants to win, wants to be the best. Whether it's, you know, a simple drill or in game or he. They were in Minnesota. I think it was the first game I covered and so I went to the pregame skate and he was like the first one on the ice like 10 minutes before everyone else. You know, that's like, that's the good.
B
I was going to ask. I mean, you talked about how it's sometimes hard, given your opinion, where you rather talking about that type of stuff. What do you make of Team USA heading in? I'm sure you've been asked the question, are you maybe a little disappointed that one or two guys were left off the roster? Like, what's your overall, overall view of what you feel for Team USA heading into these games?
E
I think they're probably, I'd say as close as they've ever been, like on paper to hang With Canada, I look at this tournament as a, like these short tournaments, single elimination. I really look at like Stanley cup wins, like playoff mentality, like elimination game type. Who shows up in those moments. And when you look at Canada, I don't know the exact number, but they have like 24 Stanley Cups between them. A couple guys have multiple. Right. I think USA has like, like six.
F
Wow.
E
And so if you think about it that way, like the. Every game, once you get to the playoff round is like a game seven. And so who's going to show up like in those big moments? Like obviously Chucky for the Americans, like he's not going to be, he's not going to shy away from any of that stuff. A lot of players on Canada are going to be super comfortable in those situations and be able to like elevate themselves to a different, you know, a different level without let the moment get to them. I don't know if that has anything to do with, with Robertson or not. I think with how, how good he's been this year. And I covered him last week just like the, he is like working, he looks like he really is working on like for the defensive side too. So that could be a miss. And I know everyone's talking about it and the goals and stuff, but I think Team USA is going to be, going to be right there. I hope the hype hasn't gotten so big that they don't think they have to work for it because they're not. I don't on paper, they're not on Canada's level yet, but they, they are right there. And so it's going to come down to, to those big moments. I think you can't, you can't, you can't grind a team down for seven games. It's different if on an NHL sheet, I think Team USA has in a seven game series, I think they might have a better chance, you know, using physicality and stuff like that. But yeah, I think Canada's still the top dog, but us is, is right there. I think we even last night who scored in the shootout in the outdoor game? I think like everyone keeps asking me about like the shootout stuff and I think Gensel, I don't know what it is about. I think he's just so solid.
D
That was a seed too. Yeah.
E
So like, if it comes down to a moment like him, Baldy, I think is having a great year. He's really good on the shootout. So those are my two kind of shootout picks.
F
I mean, even for you like that, realistically, probably Changed your life at some capacity, right? Like, is there a message you would give to these guys about going into the Olympics and, like, what it would mean for the rest of your life? Like, we. We spoke with David Andrews and he talked about just, like, winning, being a part of a winning team and what it can mean for your future and all that stuff. Like, what would you give to those guys going in?
E
I would say, like, at the. At that time, it felt like, all right, I finally made it. I don't think I'm really quite as good as I can be. So, like, I'm gonna, like, enjoy the moment. I'm gonna go as hard as I can, but, like, 2018 will come around the corner. I'll have another. You know what I mean? And it never came.
F
Yeah.
E
And so, like, if I was these kids, I would say, like, the. From the moment you guys get on the plane together, wherever you meet, like, bond as fast as you can, like, have beers together, swap stories, like, build that kind of chemistry, which I think will come over from the four nations a little bit, but. And just like, absolutely, leave it all out there because, like, you never know what's gonna happen. Like, it or what could change your life. Right. I was a fourth liner, and we had four guys on the fourth line dressed. And so, like, it's me, Pacioretti, Paul Stazny and Blake Wheeler all, like, taking turns playing. Right. So I didn't actually play that much, but then the shootout happened and, like, he's mentioned it changed my life. I mean, that. That something that sticks with me. All the opportunities I've gotten, for the most part, are from. From that and the Stanley Cup. So I would say just enjoy it. Like, you know us old guys, we always talk, like, you never know when it's going to be, you know, all that stuff. But I really didn't think that was the last time I was going to play in the Olympics. And it was.
B
What kind of card games you play to build camaraderie?
E
I mean, I'm a big seven up, seven down guy, but I mean, in Washington, we played past the ace on the bus, win or lose. And at times it was like, you know, you have some tough losses, right? Oh, those go through some tough stretches and you got.
B
You do the whole team. Like, everybody would get a card or just the guys on the table.
D
It.
E
Oh, no, the whole team.
D
Go all.
E
The way up by the coaches.
B
That is awesome.
E
And we're like, you know, maybe you have a tough stretch and someone gets like, two aces. Everyone's like, oh, yeah, you're like cheering and the coaches are like, they're like pissed off because we're still having fun even though we had like the worst game of the year. So that, that's like the stuff, like the little things, you know, like that. That bring you together.
D
No better feeling than. Than you see an ace just flying around and then you know you got the king just to shove it in somebody's face. You're just like, you're just so happy to just.
E
Oh, yeah, you throw it right on your hat, you know. So I come around and you're like, you know, because it comes around so you don't know who's behind you and you like. Or what they have behind you. You look around, you see a big.
B
King there and you just.
D
All right, again, yeah.
E
I will say I'm probably one of the worst past the ace players of all time. I won like three games in like 15 years. But.
B
But what does every guy throw in per game? Usually like 20 bucks a guy.
E
Usually 20 bucks. And then two tie all time. Automatic re up.
B
Oh, that's the best.
E
Oh.
B
Oh, that's the best feeling when you're out of it. You got the ace and then it's the two tie, all tie.
E
Oh, yeah, it's. Oh, to get the two tie all time. I think we had two. We had one game that went two, two tie, all ties. So it was game three and we had to move it to the next game.
F
Oh, carryover.
E
Because we were, you know, we're already sitting there. Everyone's already in the hotel. The young guys. Hopefully you're still waiting even though we're not in there to go up on the bus. And yeah, you flip like Jack, Jack. And your boys are like roaring. You come into the lobby like, boys, two tie, all tie again.
D
They're like, yeah, yes, yes. Oh, Team USA question for you. Kind of a no lose situation. But if they do go four forwards on the power player. You haven't Hughes run the first unit or were rent?
E
I'm having Hughes run it.
D
Okay.
E
Because I think Warensky is going to play bigger minutes, five on five and not the Hughes can. I mean, that guy can play like 30 minutes a night, but I think you want Wenski on the ice more 5 on 5. And so you kind of almost. They're all superstars, right? So you kind of like, all right, fuse like, this is your time. This is your. This will be a lot of your ice time right here. And he. I mean, he doesn't. Doesn't seem like, he loves to come off the ice either on the power play, so. So I think you throw him out there for that. His ability. I know Warrensky's really good too, but, like, his ability to, like, keep pucks alive and, like, hold the puck for a long time will let some of these other guys, like, just, you know, get into that position to score. And so I think, I think five on five, especially against teams like Canada that, like, are going to be able to get to the net. You want Orensky, in those big moments, five on five, to be boxing out and to be playing those guys a little bit more.
F
Like, even as a power play guy myself, like, I. I really hope they just let them play. And it's a ton of five on five, one or two power plays a game if it's penal, like in world juniors and stuff like that, when there's so many penalties, like, you can lose the flow of the game and guys aren't getting into it. So I really hope they let them play, but you never know with those officials. Right?
E
I don't. I think there's going to be. I think there's going to be a lot of penalties. I know it's. It feel like everybody. International tournament, it's just like. I don't know, is it all NHL.
B
Refs, they're actually doing a good job of having quite a few.
E
Most of them, yeah. So, like, those games I think will be tighter when you get the European refs that aren't used to maybe some of like the physicality. It's. Especially on the NHL sheet, things gonna happen a little faster.
B
They're actually sending the. The refs who did the NHL stadium series game, the ones who just did the Tappa game. Tampa and Boston.
E
You didn't like their performance last night.
D
If Wilson hit Stank or a player like he hit Stanko. With European refs, they're probably like, they're looking for handcuffs and 100%, 100%.
E
There's too much sound. Like there's. There's like, it's. You're in the box or you're gone.
B
Like, we talked about how fast and how skilled the game is. Like, how would you describe when you. When you went to the Olympics, like, how much of another jump that is? Like, what should these guys who have never played in the Olympics be prepared for? Like, I mean, a guy like, you know, Tom Wilson, he deserves to be there, got the nod. Like, what. What is it like, all of a sudden stepping in on. On the best. On best.
E
I think the. The way I kind of looked at. It is. So back then, I'm not sure when exactly Detroit went to the Eastern Conference, but we played. I played against Datsuk a lot back then. Like, that line, and I kind of compared it to, like, you're almost like, in a shutdown. Like, you're always playing against a first line. It's like.
F
It's.
E
It's just like a constant. There's, like, very little room for error. You kind of have to be safe a little bit offensively, but you also got to try to create offense. So it's like. It's like. It's like your biggest playoff game. Go in, and the coach comes up, he's like, hey, you're going to get the first line tonight. Except for no matter what lines on the ice, that's who you're going to. And so it's.
F
It.
E
It's tough. It's a completely different level. It was. We were also on an Olympic sheet, and so that. I think that changes things a little bit. Even, like. Like, visually, like, where the blue lines were, and, like, the net was, like, further away, and, like, it kind of messed me up. Like, shooting pucks. Like, you get over the blue line, you're like, oh, my gosh. This is like a scoring chance.
F
Barely getting there.
E
Yeah. So. But that. That's kind of just the biggest. Like, everything is just so much harder. There's no space. Everyone's real good. You don't have that one, you know, seventh defenseman that's in the game that you can, like, somehow, like, dangle and feel good about yourself. Like, everyone's just so good.
A
And I know.
F
I mean, obviously a lot of talk about Canada, usa. But, like, what do these other team bring? Cause, I mean, they're no slouches either, right? They're going in. They want to win. Like, there's no easy games anymore, is there?
E
No, I don't think so. And, like, I. Like, even you look at Finland, like, I think they're going to be really good. I don't know how. How the injuries are going to shake out for Sweden, but, like, I have Sweden. And, you know, depending on how it lines up, like, if they were all healthy, like, they're. They probably have a good chance of winning the gold medal. You know what I mean? Or at least getting there to the gold medal game. So, yeah, you go up and down the line. Like, even Germany.
D
That's what I was gonna say about Germany. Like, us. I saw a thing, US Schedule. I think it's Germany, Denmark, the last game is relatively Latvia. Like, all right, so Leon and Stutzel and Cider start playing. Awesome. It's like, yeah, this game isn't like a shoe in.
E
Well, Andy, it's probably gonna come down to. Some of us can come down to goaltenders, right?
F
Yeah, yeah.
E
If you get a hot goaltender, I mean, you get. You only get one game.
D
Yep.
E
He plays out of his mind. You can be going home early, and.
D
You'Ve watched Logan Thompson a lot, and, you know, you're no banner. Like, we talked to Flurry. It was interesting because we kind of put it. Put it on him a little bit, and he's like, I think it's Bennington's net, based on his past. And I know you're. You're a Caps guy, but are you kind of seeing a similar vibe there with Canada?
E
Yeah. So the one thing about, like, Benner is he just seems like a gamer, you know what I mean, in those big moments. And so you can't really, like, throw, like, numbers or analytics at someone that just in the big moments, like, they're gonna show up. And so, I mean, I think it's probably his net to lose. I think they're probably not. They're probably not shy, though, to, like, if he's not doing well, I think they're gonna be super comfortable with LT in there because he's Is a little bit of a gamer, too. He's not, like. To me, I guess. I don't know, but he doesn't seem like a crazy. Crazy technical, but, like, reads the game really well and can kind of like, follow the puck and follow where the puck's gonna go, and he kind of just ends up just getting his. His body in a way. So I'd love it for LT to, you know, get a shot, but I think it's Benner's net.
B
I'm. I'm a little, like. I'm a little rattled that we're not gonna see OVI in and the Russians in there. I feel like that's such a big miss.
E
Yeah, it's. That's a. Like, they'd be. They'd be continuous stacked. Yeah.
F
Goaltending alone is a joke.
E
Yeah. I don't know. And for ovi, too, like, this stage in his career to go play in one more Olympics, knowing his kids like to have his. Have the boys there, you know? Yeah, it's. That's a. That's a tough one.
D
And then just seeing Kucherov, what he's been doing. Oh, I think. I don't know if this is Exact. And, and I know we're, we're interviewing February 2nd you right now. It'll be out maybe in a week. But Kucharov has, like, 30 points in his last 12 games.
B
It's like, I, I want to say 34, 36 points in 14 games since the start of the year. He's, he's, he's reaching a different level again, and he's, he's nipping at the heels for the Art Ross now.
E
There's, I don't think there's anyone in the game that makes it look easier than him. Like, McDavid, like, like, like he is McDavid, but he's, it looks like he's trying really hard to, like, you know, his feet are flying, like, his sticks moving everywhere. Same with McKinnon. Like, he's like, I don't know. But Khushov just. He almost looks, like, disrespectful to the other team.
D
You know what I mean?
E
He's like, almost like an. And one player that's just like, so smooth and like, somehow the guy still breaks his ankle and falls down. I don't know. I don't. That's the only way I could, like, describe it.
F
Yeah, the Professor.
D
This is Roback. Last question. Use code chicklets on roback.com for 20% off your order through the end of this week. C H I C L E T S on r h o-b a c k dot com. 20% off all pants joggers. More with code Chiclets. We've been told that you're doing stuff with Michelob and it involves commercial. Is this, like, are we going to get to see you on the greatest commercial day of the year?
F
I.
E
So when I got this call from Michelob Ultra that I was going to be in a. Have a cameo in the super bowl commercial, I was like, wait a second.
D
Holy second. I, I made it right.
B
Like, does this surpass the shootout at the Olympics?
F
I mean, both 1 percenters.
E
I mean, it's, it's probably more rare. I don't know.
D
Like, I, like, I don't know. I'm a big up in Russia.
F
I'd say more people are in commercials than in shootouts in the Olympics.
E
Yeah, I guess. Super Bowl. But the. What, what was awesome was when they brought it to me, I read, like, the script and I was like, this is straight out of my life. It's probably out of your guys's lives, too. So I'll just walk, like, briefly walk you through it. It's out on Social Media. But so there's. There's Lewis Pullman, who. He was in, like, the Maverick you'll, like, remember from there. He's with his buddies at the top of the hill, right? And they're like, all right, race you to the bottom for. For an ultra. And they go. And this guy, he always lose. So he's like the butt of all the. Like, he's always paying for the ultras. And Kurt Russell is at the end of. Yeah, yeah, her. Brooks. Kurt Russell's at the end. At the end of the. The bar. And he, like, pulls him over. And the guy. His name's Greg, he's like, get over here, Greg. And he, like, runs them through like this. Like, all this testing. He's like. He was even sharpening his skis. And. And Kurt Russell's like, again, again, dressed.
B
As Herb Brooks in the commercial.
E
But he's like, no, he's like a. Like this instructor, like this mythical guy. And so, sure enough, just like me and my buddies would, you know, you do everything. Whoever loses pays for the beers. And he gets to the top and goes again, goes off the jump to, like, win the race. And me, and I'm standing next to Chloe Kim and Kurt Russell, and we're just, like, in a maze, just like. And like, that's the only part I'm in. But still, like, really cool. Really cool, like, to just, like, be in the super bowl commercial. I think it's in, like, the last TV timeout of the first quarter, so people won't be too crazy yet. I think they'll still remember what's going on. And. And then Michelob Ultra is the beer sponsor of Team usa, so it kind of ties in the whole Olympics. We got Super Bowl, Olympics 6. I mean, this lineup coming up of. Of events is unbelievable. So super thankful to Michelob Ultra and, like, meeting Kurt Russell. He's like the nicest human being I've ever. I've ever met.
F
So it's like.
E
And to me, like, I never met her Brooks. So to me, like, he's like. It's kind of like her bros, you.
B
Know, I had dinner with her Brooks one time when I was in Pittsburgh. I was drafted there. It was. It was amazing. Like, yeah, it was. It was him and him and Craig Patrick.
E
It was.
B
You know, they were the. They were the guys that drafted us that year. So. But to go back to the commercial that the. The Michelob Ultra, the. The non. Alks. They're pretty good. Like, they're. They got great stuff.
E
I mean, I. I've Been. My dad's favorite beer was Michelo Golden Light. And he would show up to my house, like, in St. Louis. I didn't know he was in town. And he'd just walk in, and he have a grocery bag full of Nickelo Gold Mike Lights. Like, he's almost like, what are you doing? Where'd you get those?
F
They only sell those in St. Louis. Right. I feel like I've never seen them.
D
Mini too, I think. Right.
E
Minnie's a big.
D
They're good, Nick.
E
Golden Light, so. Yeah, but, like, the Michelob Ultras, and, you know, beer's phenomenal. They're great. The whole team, the whole experience was. I mean, it was like a real movie set, right? It was. It felt we were in Salt Lake City.
A
Nice.
D
Okay, so that Chloe Kim is the. She's the snowboarder, and she dates Miles Garrett, right?
E
Yeah.
D
She pretty cool. Has she won gold?
E
She was great. I think she's going for her. Her third half pipe gold medal in a row. Wow. And so, like, she's like. I'm standing next to her, and, you know, like, people like, oh, great shootout. Great shootout. And they're like, oh, congratulations on all your gold medals.
B
Oh, my God.
E
Just a lot of you win. Yeah. Yeah, I got no medals.
F
How long was the day when you were shooting? Because those days can be long.
E
Yeah, well, I. I didn't have too much in it, so I was. You know, they were a little longer, but it ended up being like six hours or so with all the social content and things like that. I had, like, my own team. Right. I didn't know that. I was like, I just show up and just, you know, whatever, wherever you need me. There was, like. There was, like, a guy to hold my jacket. There was, like, a makeup person.
B
It's almost uncomfortable, like, how many people are doing things for you. You're like, I'm good.
A
They were.
E
Because we were in the mountains, right? And they're snowing, so it's, like, a little cold, unless we had, like, a jacket on, like, in between takes. And this guy just kept taking my jacket. And finally I was like, you know what, dude? You're Just hold. You can just set the jacket down. I'm gonna go, no jacket. I feel weird with someone, like, helping me this much, but they were. They were phenomenal. And the whole Michelob team was unbelievable. And. And, yeah, it was. It's gonna be really cool to, like, be in the Super Bowl. I mean, that wasn't on the. That wasn't on the dream list, right? That's not. You just didn't think it's possible.
D
No. That came extra.
E
Yeah.
F
By next year's commercial, you'll be like.
D
Who the put the blue M M's? Yeah.
E
Oh, Joe, I don't like blue. Eminem never.
B
I could not this Oshi guy.
E
Yeah. And they call you the talent. I'm like, this is good. You guys are going way too far.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you were there last time in. In Sochi, did you go get to see other sports? Like, did you find yourself, like, intrigued by any sports maybe you hadn't checked out before?
E
Yeah. So we. Our. Our schedule is super compressed, and so there's not like a ton of time. But I did go up to the mountain one time and watch Sean White in the half pipe.
B
Okay.
E
And on the way. On the way back, we stayed, like, a little too late. I don't remember. It was like an hour bus ride.
D
Maybe.
E
We stayed so late that we missed the last bus going back. And we're in Russia, right? And there's, like, checkpoints every couple miles with, like, guys with machine guns. I don't. I don't know how. There's no Uber. Like, I don't. We don't know how to get back. And we just sat there asking, like, can someone help us get back to the Olympic village? And somehow I remember if someone, like, just gave us a ride and we ended up making our way back. But that was, like, the. Really the only time. And Sean White, man, like, you watch everyone go, and then he would go like, twice as high as everyone else, and you're like, oh, that. That. That must be him.
F
Isn't it crazy how downhill? Like, on tv, it looks like it's like this, the half pipe, but it's like that.
E
It's straight downhill. Yeah.
F
Third.
B
I don't know, like a 45 degree angle.
F
I'm not good with angles, but.
B
Well, 45 would be like that.
E
Yeah. Yeah.
F
Maybe more.
B
I don't know.
F
They're.
E
It's like they're way up there.
F
Diamond straight down.
E
It's like straight down.
B
We had Mark McMorris on who. Who does that as well. I want to say he just won something and he's qualified to go to the Olympics. So those guys.
D
He's going this year?
B
I. I believe so. Those guys got a screw loose.
F
Oh, yeah.
E
Oh, yeah.
B
You got to be a psychopath to be doing that.
D
Where are you right now?
E
I'm in dc, so I'm. I'm working for the Caps this weekend, so I did the game a couple nights ago, I got. I got the. The game tonight versus the Islanders.
D
What are the little birdies saying about Panarin possibly going there? And what are you kind of seeing? Like, it's. It's weird. Everyone's kind of waiting for the Caps to get going. It's been a little bit of a sludge.
E
Yeah. I think that they're just so banged up with injuries and they're. They're not a team that they're not going to have, like, a guy getting 100 points. Right. And so their strength is, like, their depth. And when you lose that depth because guys are hurt, it's. You're kind of in a. In a tough spot. I've. I've heard, like, about the talks about Panarin, I think the. The. I would assume, anyways, I don't know. But the problem is anyone that's going to trade, they're probably going to want some of, like, these prospects that they've, like, built, right? They're gonna want, you know, Protoss, Protists, or.
B
I heard McMichael's name come out. I wouldn't give up.
E
I wouldn't give him even Mikey, right? So, like, he's like, these players are finally. They finally got their shot and they're finally to where they're like, NHL. Like, they. They can make a difference out there. And so, I don't know. It's hard, like, for me, I'm like, a loyal person. I'd just be like, no, whatever. I'm like, I'm keeping my boys. But that's probably why I'll never be a gm, because I. I got too much. I get connected, like, way too much. You're old on your team.
B
It's like Tom Wilson's 54 years old. Oh, she gotta let him go.
D
Down with the ship.
B
Yeah. Can't we get him, like, a. Like a better cane out there? Like, can't we? I heard ra's got a nice one. Let's get him that version. But this has been unreal. Dude, we're so happy to get you on. And, man, this is. It's gonna be great hearing you at the Olympics and. And congrats on all your endeavors post career. Man, you're buzzing right now.
E
Yeah. Thanks, brother. I appreciate you guys, like, like I mentioned all the time, you guys are so good. You guys have brought so many, so many fans to hockey that don't see, like, the character of, like, what, like, our, like, the guys are. And so I love it and love.
B
Buddy with the Fact that they're bracing these goalie fights now you have the NHL post in it. I, I, hockey's on a heater. I could see hockey be doubling, tripling the size in the next five, ten years, man. It's, it's, it's doing so well and the game's at a different level. And hey, once they start get a little smarter out there, we're really going to take over.
E
Yeah.
F
Did you see Cooch call Vasilevsky White, Tyson.
B
Unbelievable.
E
So good. So good. It's so good. The, oh, man. The just like, I think hockey guys are just like the best people in the world. Like the funniest, like most down to earth. And so. Yeah, but like I said, you guys, you guys have a lot of that showing, showing the character.
D
And my last thing, Ocean, thank you for that. Is kind of some questionable times at North Dakota. Last year they lose one of their top players to bu and now they have just revamped. Like, any chance you'd be in Vegas for the Frozen four if they get there?
E
I mean, I would absolutely love, love to go. The one time they won the national championship, I had this run of like sending a, messages, watching the game and I get superstitious. And I was like, I'm not watching this one. And they won. And so now I'm like, I don't, I don't think I can watch. So I don't, I don't watch anymore.
D
That's a true fan.
E
Every time Waro has been to the state championship since I last won, I've watched and they've lost.
B
Lost.
E
And so I, I don't know, I got like this little superstition in me that if I go. I spoke to North Dakota in Denver one time when we were, when we were there playing. I spoke to him before the period or before the game. The gossips won.
B
No, that's the worst feeling.
E
Oh, I know. And so it's like, I don't know if I can do it. But Dane Jackson has him playing hard. I will say Jax was my assistant coach for two of the years my sophomore and junior year there. And when he got the job, he immediately went around to all of us older guys that have gone. And I think I had a three hour face to face meeting with him at Interlockin and he's like, oh, talk to me about the culture. How did, talking to me about the culture, what you guys did, how you built that, why everyone loved and played so hard for each other. Because back in the day we would, you know, and college Hockey, you know, everything's a little bit different. But in North Dakota, we were like, we're gonna to hit you as hard as possible. We're going to work harder than everyone, and we have some skill to back it up. And he's like, I want that, like, that family culture mentality. He's like, I feel like we might be missing that a little bit, man. He went and went around, not just me, some of the other players that went to North Dakota, too, and talked. It was a lot of culture stuff, a little X and O's, but mostly like, why were you guys so tight? Why did you love each other so much? What did you do off the ice?
F
How.
E
What was the living situations, all this other stuff, and. And he's just tried to soak it all in and looks like it's working because they're. They're buzzing. I love to see it. North Dakota, I feel like just with the history, like, they should be up there, you know, with the Michigan's, the Boston teams.
B
So I use this word lightly. I'm addicted to college hockey now. After that experience at Penn State. I've been to one. I've been to one program every I.
E
Man, it's so funny. Like, all the junior guys, like, anytime they'd ask about college and you could be like, gosh, man, that would have been awesome.
B
Oh, I would never have played Pearl if I went to college.
F
Zero percent. Yeah.
B
Yeah, I would have been.
E
But the experience. You would have been addicted.
B
Yeah.
F
Van Wilder.
E
Yeah, I know. I can't believe I made it out. If I'm being honest, if I would have stayed my own year, I might not have.
F
If you had nil money, you wouldn't know.
E
No, no.
B
Unreal. Well, Osh, thanks so much for joining us again. You're the man, dude. And we'll. We'll see you on TV during the Olympics.
E
Yeah. I appreciate you boys. Be good.
F
Thanks, Osh, babe.
B
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Warning.
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This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Thank you very much to tj Oshi. Awesome guy. He's crushing it. And he, and he did very well in that commercial. I, I was, I was telling everyone at my house for the Super Bowl. Oh, there he is. No words spoken, but he's looking up at Kurt Russell in the sky. Good job, Osh Biz.
F
Great, Joe.
D
Very funny tweet this morning or PR release from the Oshawa Generals. Have you seen this one?
B
No. No. Why are you fucking smirking like that?
D
The Oshawa Generals felt the need to address their fan base and basically paraphrasing here say that you guys got to start taking showers. Our arena smells so bad, we're going to need you guys to take care of your bo. To help ensure a clean, comfortable and enjoyable, enjoyable experience for everyone, we kindly ask for your cooperation with a few simple hygiene practices. Please make use of them.
F
Off.
D
Please make use of the hand sanitizing stations located throughout the arena. Cover coughs and sneezes and be mindful of personal cleanliness while sharing our space with fellow fans. If you went to the gym or did something that produced body odor, please shower before attending the game.
F
Oh my God. By the way, this PR guy will be hired by the New Jersey Doubles at some point. But what a ridiculous.
B
Imagine how bad they're embarrassing to be known as the stinkiest fan base in Hawk for a team to have to release that. Not a, Not a.
E
Like a.
B
Was it an email or was.
D
It was like an email. Yeah, it was an email.
B
Okay. Okay.
D
I thought like it was an email to all season ticket holders tweet I saw said very curious about what prompted a personal hygiene email from the Oshawa Generals to their season ticket holders. And I can't imagine walking into that barn and the stench and the odor that must have hit you right as the doors open. And for the team to have to send an email out to their fans.
F
Because it couldn't happen overnight. Right? It had to have happened.
D
This is probably like they got. They got enough complaints over the course of the season, what starts in September, right? We're six, seven months into this thing. And. And we got six, seven. And we got people that are not showering, not using deodorant, going to Oshawa General's games. Biz, do you. Do you remember their barn being stinky?
B
Canada's in shambles.
F
No adult. No adult. Because everyone season ticket holder is an adult. No adult should have to be told to shower or wash your ass.
D
Bernie in.
B
Bring Bernie up.
D
You know, and this goes into biz. Peeing in the Middle of pods into the bottle maybe?
B
No, no, we're not. Well, actually, it's funny you say that. I was literally going to dump the rest of this. The one that I got the.
F
So that's his pee.
D
That's his pee when he used to drink wide nozzle.
B
Not a big deal.
F
Oh man, it's just a bad like, imagine like your wife seeing that email and it's like, oh, babe, it's not everybody.
B
There's a select few. As I, I put my.
D
I know way more than we think. If, if the email's going on, it's not like there's seven fans in section.
F
Seven that remind you a junior game. Like, it's not like everyone's like, they're pretty spread out. Unless OSHA is getting 12, 000 a night where you're sitting by. But I mean, if that's a spread out junior barn stinking like that biz, the team should lose all rights. Like they should. The team should have to fold.
D
You know, we've chirped players before that have gotten drafted by teams. Eric Lindros, Eli Manning. I'm not playing there. If a kid gets drafted by the Oshawa Generals this year in the first round, I get it. If he's like, I'm not dealing with that, my game will go downhill fast. If my nose is disgustingly trying to figure out a four check and, and I can't get, I can't get the puck off my stick quick enough to change and get into my force. Oh, they're not at the four C's. That's Team Canada. My apologies, but crazy.
F
They should bring back the, Remember the little Drakaud noir things they'd sell in the bathrooms at the movie theater? They gotta bring those back right next to the rubbers.
B
All right, the. No, but I, but I think that, well, one, personal hygiene. Like, I shower minimum twice a day. I, I use skincare products like I use a face cloth every time I'm in this. I fucking watch.
F
They weren't emailing you. They weren't emailing you.
B
No, I know, but I'm talking about personal hygiene and how it's, it's something that I think that is overlooked a little bit.
D
Yeah, it's an important thing.
B
I'm ranting here. So I, I'm, I'm talking to all the guys out there, you know who we need to get on to talk about this.
D
Who?
B
Come on.
F
No, Leon, no.
B
Who's in the back right now? Guys? I bet you he would have a 20 minute rant about this.
F
Avery.
B
Avery, Sean Avery. And I. I'm on board with him, man. Boys, men, take care of yourself. Clip your toenails, okay?
F
Wash your ass.
B
Like, I. I wash with a face cloth every single time I go in the shower. Head to toe, between my toes. When I get out of the shower, I dry between my toes. Make sure you're putting lotion on your body. Make sure you're using good deodorant. Brush your teeth. I. I probably brush my teeth three times a day now. And I do it with the one toothpaste to start, and then I move to, like, a whitener.
D
Okay. It's just little.
B
I don't floss enough.
D
I gotta floss more, too, man.
B
They say that when the food, like the bacteria between your teeth, like, the food, if it builds up, it affects your brain. Like, if. You know, so you. You should be flossing way more. Like, that's what tends to remind me, like, oh, my. As if my brain ain't up enough. So guys out there, especially you also Oshawa General season ticket holders, like, come on. Yeah, they should get the outdoor showers and just hose them down before they come in the building.
D
Yeah, they might. They. It might turn into that, but it's.
B
It's like Austin Powers line. Just get them off.
D
What the commissioner of the OHL was. Was looking for this morning was an email to season ticket holders about just taking showers.
B
So should. Should I do a video trying to teach hygiene to.
F
You have a shower video? There is one out there. The. Your commercial that's always on. DraftKings.
B
Yeah, that's. Yeah, but I wasn't really scrubbing between the.
D
Those were the General's fans screaming at him outside the show. Get out. No, they're like, drop that soap. You don't want its poison. All right, let's bring on ra.
A
Hello, everybody. Welcome to ra's World. Here on the Spitting Chiclets podcast. Pointing at that usa. Keith. I see that biz. You shower twice a day, brother. That's a little ocd. No, like, oh, you think twice a day.
B
I got the worst OCD going. You should see my.
F
Everything all right?
D
In the morning and then before bed. Not like crazy.
F
Ra's World.
D
Live from ra. Are you a season ticket holder of Oshawa Generals?
A
No, but, like, I'm not, like, ashamed. I don't shower every single day. I mean, I don't. I don't feel like I need to every single day. I mean, obviously business has much more things going on than I do, but I Don't. You know? I don't.
D
I think what the thing is, Ari, is you. Most people, if you don't even know it, you're sweating while you sleep.
B
Oh, big.
A
Like, I. I like a nice, cool place, but I gotta. My duvet is so heavy, I sweat my balls up underneath it. Even though, like, my house is like, okay, so 48 degrees.
D
I think you're proof.
B
He's gonna be at the picket line with, you know, going on strike with the Osh.
A
I do shout before I go to the games, but anyways, it's been 12 VOA boys. It's great to have these guys back. The 2900 athletes all together. There's at least one rep from all 32 teams in the NHL. But I think one thing that hasn't really been talked about is the gold medal game. No more shootouts. They're going to go 20 minutes overtime, three on three. I mean, I can't imagine they're going to go more than one overtime, but that's unbelievable. Did you know this? With that they won three on.
D
I did. I saw.
F
I kind of wish it was five on five.
D
I love the fact that the shootout's gone three on three for a gold medal. I remember first seeing it at the world juniors. I'm like, ah, now it was 4 on 4 in 2010, but that's a little bit more legit than 3 on 3. To me, it would be electric. You know, don't. Don't get me wrong, it's more just like, fuck. That's like a. Kind of a tough way to go down. But I do love the no shootout. Ra. That's not how you boys.
B
They should do. They should go five on five for. For. For 10 minutes. Maybe flood or scrape that, then go four on four. Just scrape the ice. Four on four and then. And then the three on three. Going right to three on three is a fucking joke. That's not.
D
Well, but if we're gonna get. If we're gonna get rid of shootouts, like, I'll take that, right?
B
Deal?
E
Like deal.
A
Wait. Well, I got you. I want to ask what, like, what's the difference in pressure, if any, between, like, say, NHL playoffs versus the Olympics, seeing as, you know, took pot and bowl.
D
So I played the cup finals game five in Detroit, and then the gold medal O was overtime. That was double overtime when Talbot scored. And then the. The gold medal game over time, it was pretty similar based on the fact that if Detroit scored, they won the cup. So I don't feel like it was that, like, one more than the other. But I do remember after being like, wow, like. And this is not trying to sound like a hardo or anything, like, I didn't feel that nervous.
B
You know what?
D
I'm sorry. In the Detroit Pittsburgh game, I didn't. I was playing a lot. The US Game, I was nervous as. Because I knew I wasn't seeing the ice, so I felt like a fan. I felt like how everyone else felt watching the game. But when I was getting a regular shift in that game. 5 Detroit Pittsburgh 08 I. I was. I was calm. I was just like, very focused. And the whole team was. And it wasn't. It wasn't a feeling of, like, panic as. As fans have or as I did in the gold medal game in 2020.
A
Just.
D
Just 2010, just watching.
B
Did you think that there was a chance also that you would be thrown in at any point? Zero or zero? For sure. Zero.
D
They could have been down to three D in that overtime against Canada, and they were rolling three. And I kind of got at that point. I gave that goal, Perry scored. I was done after that. After that goal Perry scored in the gold medal game, I was done.
B
It's always worse when you don't have that control, right?
D
Yeah, that's exactly it. In the Pittsburgh game, it's like you're out there, you're making plays. You're not. Not thinking of how big the moment is. You're just doing what you did in the first period. As a fan and as a guy on the bench, you were just like, ass puckered up. Please score. Please score. Please score. So. But it was. It was. It was incredible either way. Just like, knowing the moment and how big it was.
B
Ari, I would assume, like, less. Like, way less margin for error. Right? You could play probably going into game one of the Stanley cup finals, you're probably nervous. You know, you haven't seen this team since the regular season. You know, new matchup, like, what's it going to look like? But you're also familiar with all your teammates. You've been playing with them all year. So not only playing with new teammates and having to get adjusted so quickly. I mean, if you reach the gold medal game, it's going to be your sixth game together and fucking you better. You better adjust quick. And you might not have even seen them throughout the tournament.
A
I'm not sure if you saw the Drew Doughty quote earlier. I think it was after the Canada game. He said, this is the first time I've been nervous in, like, 10, 15 years. Like, you know, Nate was too forever.
B
Yeah. Nate said he couldn't pregame nap, which is shocking to hear.
A
Yeah, he said it was a good thing too. I know you guys shouted out the US Ladies earlier. I think they're the. Maybe the. The most dominant hockey program on the planet right now. Like from the, from the top down. Like I said, we mentioned the. They won the. I think it was under 17 World Championships a couple weeks back, but outscoring the opposition 21 so far. So just want to give those ladies a shout out.
D
I can't believe how good girls are now. I shouldn't say I can't believe but. But I remember 98 that team and like listen, they were. They were good players. It was, it was a. It was a great win for the US I see these girls now in the town I live in Milton. They have an incredible girls program. They. They like the U12, U14. And then just seeing some how skilled these. These women are now. It. It's wild. I think could be wrong here. Fastest growing women's sport in the country. The amount of skills, it's more. The speed that's different now and that is the same. You know, the men are way faster than they were in 98. But girls hockey is so popular now and the girls have turned into truly incredible players. And yeah the United States, it seems like they. I said earlier have really turned a corner and taken over this thing and.
B
Youth too I believe. What ra8 of the. The current players on team USA are under the age of 24. For the women's and Canada elected to go for an older. An older group this year and it looked like they were playing different leagues.
A
Yeah, the skill like you said, just like. I mean it's all hands. You don't have to be big a muscle, whatever. It's just all dexterity and you know with the hands and what we see now these young ladies is.
F
But they also let them play like they're playing hard. Like the, the physicality is ramped up big time. In the last couple years of watching it. They. There's no more where like they don't hit each other at all. Like if they're on the boards, they finish checks. Not as much open ice hitting I don't think or if any but the on the board stuff is pretty gnarly.
A
Yeah, the pwhl they do that smack each other around quite a bit out there. You know, they. They. I know it used to be illegal to check, but they've kind of like. I don't know if they took that rule away, but they definitely like let up on it. They kind of let these girls beat the out of each other, which is hockey. I gotta give a shout out like again to the Slovaks. Huge upset over the Fins puts the Fins behind the eight ball. Man, they got to play the Swedes, but like I said, I had 80 to 1 to them before, before the Olympics started. They went down to I think 65. They're at 50 to 1 right now. A lot of hockey to be played, but just want to give them, those boys a shout out. And how about Sweden? I know, you know, Italy gave them a good punch. Sweden was $20,000 to make a hundred in that game. Yes, they absolutely prick.
D
If you're, if you're doing that.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
D
Is there a person that would make that bet? I, I, yeah, just come on, Miles.
A
We can bet on coin flips in my, in my basement if you want to, if you're that much of a D. Gen. But we got to give a shout out. 38 year old Leonardo Jononi became the oldest goalie in the NHL Olympic era with a shutout for Switzerland. 27 saves. Want to give the old man a.
D
Little shout out there against France, right?
A
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Enough. We gotta, we gotta talk about this. The Norwegian biathlete crash out. Bro, this, I don't know if you saw this. Norwegian biathlete Sterla Home leg Reed. Sorry if I butchered the buddy. He did an interview after winning bronze and he proceeds to tell the world that the moment wasn't complete without his ex girlfriend. Because he cheated on her. He said it to the whole fucking world. Like six months ago I met the love of my life, the world's most beautiful, sweetest person. And three months ago I made the biggest mistake of my life and cheated on her. No, I was like, like he said he wanted to share what he had done in the hopes that she might recognize what she means to me. It's like, bro, you already humiliated her once in personal life. Now you did it to the whole world.
B
It.
E
I.
F
Don't you guys hear the Oshawa generals sent out an email to shower before the games?
B
No way.
D
Are you serious?
A
Wait, did you guys talk this about this? Really? No, I didn't, I wasn't.
B
What do you think about it?
D
He's not out.
B
You got. What if, what if your, what if your girl went off to the Olympics and did that to you? Would you be like, you cunt.
A
Well, dude, it's, it's, it's a double humiliation for far, like, it's like you get first, you get cheated on, then, and this guy, like, sends it to the whole fucking world. That's just brutal. Absolutely brutal. I don't know what he was thinking. Then the Norwegian team blade put out a statement and he apologized to the guy who won the gold for taking all the attention away from him. But I hope she's doing well. I cannot undo this, but I will put it behind me and focus on the Olympics. But right now, if there's a donkey of Milan award for the Olympics, this guy is the fucking front runner right now.
D
The donkeys.
B
I think he was just trying to get his fucking dog back, boys.
D
Jesus Christ.
B
Lay off the guy.
D
The donkey of the Olympics. All right. Did you catch what the French judges did to the pairs figure skating? Did you catch that? Oh, my God.
A
Gee.
D
Get the names of the U.S. they're. They're the heads and shoulders. The best dancing team in figure skating in the world. They're incredible. I think his last name's like Block or something. The man. They were dead even going into the second night. U.S. and France. OK, they actually U.S. was like half a point down, but basically dead even. The only reason they were half a point down is because the French judges had had these ridiculous scores. You know how most of the judges. It's all pretty similar, right? The scoring. So they go into the second night, same exact thing. The French judges, they crucify the American team by like a ridiculous amount. It's blatant cheating. It's an absolute joke. The French team won the gold medal. It was completely ridiculous. I'm telling you. There needs to be an inquiry or there needs to be.
B
How much was the difference where? It was obvious, dude.
D
It was like 10 points or something like that. Like, I'm kind of guessing, but something biz that was so evident and obvious from the French judges only. And then the French team ended up winning. Like it was blatant, dude.
B
Did they interview the American pair after and did they have any comments?
D
I don't know. I was just. I was just. I couldn't believe it. I was disgusted. It was. It was. It was cheating the first night. And then it was even more blatant. A stolen gold medal from these two Americans. It was a. I would love to.
B
See what the French judge looks like right now. I gotta get to see a picture of the French judge. Absolutely. All right. We need this.
A
Ah, fuck you, Americanos. What is baguette in his back?
D
Joke.
A
But conversely, though we did have a pretty cool moment, I Don't. I'm not really familiar with the rules, Rules of, Rules of curling. But the U.S. men's curling team, they were down 8 to 2 and, but instead of conceding the match, they got their 54 year old alternate, Rich Ruhonen. I hope I'm pronouncing his name right. They brought him in so he can officially be an Olympian. He's the oldest member of the US contingent. He's been part of the senior team for a long time. He's almost like another coach. So I thought that was a pretty cool moment that they could have just conceded the game and it's all right, it's over. But instead they brought this guy in just to, you know, make him an official Olympian. So I thought that was pretty cool.
E
Good stuff.
A
So little counterbalance. A guy throwing his ex girlfriend down the sewer. Listen, I, is next thing I know, like a lot of our crowd doesn't give a, about the Bost character.
B
Do you think he did it because he was trying to get her back?
A
Awful way to do it, bro. Like tell the whole word you cheated on. No, I, I, I think he just probably had a lot of emotions. He probably was feeling guilty and he just made an awful decision and Yeah, I could have kept that private. Like I said, he took the, the, you know, the, the, the, the steam away from the guy who won the gold on his team.
D
So I thought it was gonna go different.
A
Oh yeah, yeah.
B
The guy who won the gold was also in from his country.
A
Yeah, yeah. And he kind of like everyone kind of focused on that, you know, him being a pekahead instead of the guy who won the gold. So yeah, like I said, like you know, the poor, the other, the other, the girl, man. It's like, yeah, you already screwed over once and now you literally tell the whole planet. Oh, like I, I cheated on it.
B
Yeah, yeah. The discrepancy of him being his teammate, I was not aware of. Did you mention that, that earlier?
A
Yeah.
B
Okay.
A
Yeah, kind of. Like you guys mentioned that I need.
B
I need to throw wits ears on for next pod.
A
But like the, like I know, like I said, I know that a lot of ours doesn't give a, about the bastard character stuff, but we got to talk about this minty plain stuff. Like I don't. Did you guys talk about it early before I go?
B
No, no, no. Has gotten kind of sucked into the middle of it.
D
Oh, I put myself into the middle of it.
A
Oh no. And honestly, like of all that, like, like biz, you were part of the Arizona Trip where of all that, though, you know what he was, you know, of all the, like, sort of dirt bag stuff he did then, it was to people in his own orbit, you know, it was like, people who were involved with him, his friends or associates or whatever. But display yourself out on two seats of a plane so that your legs are dangling outside. I. If I was on the plane, I would have been praying for turbulence. And the beverage car gets away from the store to send Joe Theisman's leg. Like, I'm a tall guy. If I sit in the eye, I'll. I get a. To watch my knee. Just going into the thing. The fact that he splays out like that, leaves his legs dangling, puts the seat back on the guy next to him for no absolute reason. And then Donnie caught up with him in a Turkish bath and he just, like, offered the worst excuse ever. Like, oh, I thought I could lay there. Bro, you're six feet tall. You think your legs shrink when you're 35,000ft up? Dude, just this guy, man. I don't know, man. Like, Whit. You wouldn't. Adam, call him whatever you call him. Like, look at that.
D
Like, who the fuck does that? He's just the most inconsiderate person in the world. And it's very funny that he released a statement today. I'll call it a statement with Donnie does where he just went after me. And I'm a miserable guy. And. And I'm. I'm a dickhead and I'm living. I must be living a heavy life to be this miserable mint. I'm just somebody that will actually call you out because all these barstool goons, they just laugh at them. And they're not laughing with him him. They're laughing right at him, right? And Dan just loves it. It's literally Dan's entertainment. It's like this clown in the circus.
B
I thought Dave hired him.
D
Well, Dave can't stand him. Dan said he hopes Dave legit. Can't stand him. Dan, I believe, said he hopes he gets kidnapped in Turkey. And then Mincey comes at me because he's obviously not going to go with them, but he came at me.
F
Wait, does he know the guy who's next to him?
D
I think he does. I think he does know him. But I was actually like. Like, I would be like, oh, I wish I was. That guy woke up and had his, like, head in my lap and just like, boom, elbow right to the temple. Like, get out of my space. The middle space is shared by both of us. Not Gonna have you laying down on me. And Mitzi is just, he's, he's so like infuriating. Like it's just a guy who. It never seems to apologize or he does and they're like these half ass apologies and why do I care? He doesn't do anything to me. I don't really know. I guess maybe. And you know, I love the fact Brandon Walker's the one guy there. Brandon Walker could almost be like a Massachusetts guy because he just can be a real prick sometimes. But in a funny way he's been saying for years, this guy sucks. This guy. For years, this guy. I'm. And I was always like, wow, he really can't stand this guy. And the more mincy. Content. And I'll call it content. That is the most disgusting term of the word content. It's a guy whose content is to act a fool and then just be laughed at. He never. Dan. I'm like, Dan, he doesn't make content his content.
F
Are you doing it on purpose?
D
I don't even know. Sometimes I do think it's on purpose though.
A
Is he dumb as a fuck, like one of those type of things?
D
Yeah, I don't know. But like he came at me where there had to be, I don't know, 2000 tweets about him laying on the plane right now. And I just said this guy flat out sucks. And he came at me and he said I'm miserable, Mincy. I, I can't, I can't get seeing what you do and seeing you get away with it. It's the Jesse Pinkman in Breaking Bad. He can't keep getting away.
F
I know what biz is doing right now.
D
Yes, exactly. Let's see your four thousand dollar ruined wall that he laid over.
B
I would say fifteen hundred.
D
Fifteen hundred. Wet bathing suit on. And then like, like look at that.
F
Oh.
B
So I kind of actually like, you're so nice.
D
I don't take into what you're going to say here because you just feel like.
B
I feel like he's added value to my home so I can't really judge selfishly.
A
It's like Babe Ruth shit in this bathroom.
D
And what sucks RA is I wish we had a barstool person on to say all the things that this guy has done. Dude.
A
Like, and Brandon Walker, he, he retweeted that. Been telling y' all fears like you just said like, you know, Walker has been beating this drama and the idea I ironically. Well, not he, he's going there for bald stool. Like I don't like, wanton done. They. They go to Turkey, I guess they. They renown for doing these, you know, wonderful hair transplants. And he's bring. I'm like, wait a minute. He's not even bald. Like, he's like, oh, he got a little bit of a bald spot. It's like, pro got a good head of hair for 42 years old. So it's like. I think he's. Is he going there just for the free trip? And then today, I don't think two.
F
Years old, acting like this.
A
Yeah. And then. Did you see the clip? I think it was today, like, the Turkish ice cream guy, like, you know, he plays like tricks with the ice cream.
B
Those are funny.
A
And then he gives it to him, starts walking away, and someone in the behind camera goes, mitzi, are you gonna pay for that? It's like. It's like, bro, like, just. You know what I mean? Like, I have limited interaction with the guy. I have no real beef on what.
B
I pay money to fight him in a rough and rowdy.
D
Ra would punch his eyes shut. And. And hate is a very strong word. I do not hate Minty at all. I don't even really know him.
F
That doesn't sound.
D
It just drives me nuts. He drives me nuts. Everything that he does is just inconsiderate to others constantly. And he has the greatest job in the world. And I don't get how he has it. And he's just there.
A
I just want to understand the burden Ron Whitney must carry around earth every day.
D
Being that negative and that just to you.
A
I've never heard him say anything positive.
D
Not about you.
F
Known him for five years.
D
Talk about his butt cheek. I don't know what I ever did to.
F
Who said that?
D
Yeah, it's just like. It is just like. It's just got to be heavy just.
A
Being negative everywhere you go, putting that.
B
Kind of energy into the world.
A
I don't know.
B
And it's crazy.
A
A little bad for him.
B
He was the one who once told Dave Portnoy to choose love.
D
And, like, gone. He does.
B
Look in the mirror, Ryan.
A
I don't know.
B
Have you ever chosen love? I just want to hear something positive.
D
Once out of his mouth.
B
Just wait. I'm waiting. Like patience on a mon. I'll say something positive about that video.
E
Deal.
D
Donnie. Donnie looks great. White Sox. Dave cracks me up. Always kind of gone to battle with him, but he's funny. But white talks. Dave works and he makes. He makes content. He's on a show. I think it's a daily show. He's on the dog. He does stuff. He does stuff. And Mincey, I'll tell you right now, please God, please God, don't ever say you feel bad for me again. Mincey, I'm a grown adult with a wife and children and a job. And I show up to work and I do my job and I don't lay my feet across seats on an airplane. And I don't lay wet bathing suits on my friend's house and ruin the fifteen hundred dollar finishing of his wall. And I don't look around and walk around searching for free gifts and free items. And I do not grift my way through life. So you can't feel bad for me. Mincy, I feel for you. I feel for the lack of, lack of ability that you have to ever notice that you're just ruining people's days. And, and people get, get very. They get a ton of laughs out of his content. And I, once again, I do not dislike this guy. I don't know him. It's just the things I see. I have to say something at some point, RA I have to help Brandon Walker and I have to wonder. All these people in Chicago, you sit around and you're just laughing at him. Him. Why don't you speak up and say, grow up, Ben Mintz.
B
Grow up.
D
You have the job of a lifetime. Once again, I don't know how pull it together one time. Bring some money to this company.
F
Why don't, why don't you just choose love with Mincey?
D
I can't. I can't. Maybe that's.
B
I would, I would say like, from like as far as rants slash speeches. Like, I would say Martin Luther King and then Ryan Whitney.
E
What?
B
You just went on that?
D
Yeah. And Martin Luther King. You think he'd be a fan of Miny? He wasn't looking for handouts. He was looking to go out there and grind and earn your way and don't let anyone shut you down. Miny doesn't let anyone shut him down. But it's just stupidity. He. What is the, what is the term? Fat, dumb and stupid is no way to go through life.
B
All right.
E
Yeah.
B
What? Name your price. How much would it cost to get you in a ring with Miny?
A
250.
D
Hey, Dave.
F
Done. Done.
D
But 250 to Mincy. For fighting?
F
No, for the winner. Winner gets it.
D
Okay.
B
I would say that RA has to be guaranteed a certain amount given he's gonna win.
D
What if, what if losers guaranteed 50? Winner gets 250.
B
I think that RA should be guaranteed. I think it should go based off pay per views because I. I think to R. I think R.A. could outsell Canseco.
D
Oh yeah, buddy.
B
That all right.
D
Could you imagine would sell too. Dude, he would sell a lot. A lot of people would done for the company.
A
That would be like. Like King Hippo versus like Glass Joe from Mike Tyson.
B
RA man, you could start out with like power walking every day for a couple weeks and then build up to like a light jaw.
D
Let me train them.
B
I'll fucking stick needles in your ass.
D
Hey, I'll tell you this Minty once again. Mincy, I'll speak to you to the camera. I don't hate you, buddy. I don't dislike you. It's just you, the way you go through life. It's just. And this is my sense of humor, right? Like I'm a. I could come off as a miserable guy. I'm not.
B
Yeah, you got. But you guys are good at doing it. You guys are good miserable.
D
I think if you ask these guys, they know I'm not a miserable guy. I come off miserable. It's just your. Your antics, they drive me crazy.
A
Yeah, exactly. It's one thing when you're affecting people in your orbit, but when you're like, you know, banging your legs out on A Delta Flight 718 waiting to get him chopped off by a beverage. Copy.
B
That was a cross country flight, by the way.
D
That was cross Atlantic.
B
I mean. Yeah, that's what I meant me.
A
Well, we're getting late speaking.
F
Imagine how asleep his legs were when he woke up from hanging off the side.
A
But. And when Donnie got him in the Turkish bath and he was like, well, I thought I could lay down. It's like. Like, bro, you. Even if you had all three seats, something's going to be dangling out that. The idea that he would like not be dangling in the aisle with. With on two seats, man. But. All right, enough of Midsy talking about things in space. We. We talked a couple episodes ago about my. My Twitter head of the. The picture from space. A lot of folks were asking why the interview was never posted. Just want to follow up on that. It wasn't actually a Chicklets interview. It was Colonel Mike Hopkins. By the way, he said, call me Hopkins, Hoppa. It was Hopper's request to get a taste of home while he was in space. And like I said, I couldn't believe of all the 7 billion people below me picked us three packet heads and the Artemis launched the. The next NASA mission. First time in 50 years they're going by the moon. It got delayed because of weather, so he's going to be covering on CBS and said two of his classmates are aboard and when he flew with on last mission. So just want to give a shout out to Colonel Mike Hopkins. He checked in after. Just a great guy and it was legit. One of my favorite experience appearances.
B
Yeah, I was blown away. I thought. I thought Foley was back to his nonsense. When we heard that we were going to be talking to an astronaut from space. I think that a lot of people would probably love to hear about that experience and maybe we get them on maybe even during the Olympics.
A
Absolutely, man. Yeah. I mean, we haven't followed up yet, but it was just like, unreal. Like, I'll never forget, I was sitting in my living room and like when he popped up on that zoom and just to see, like, the Earth below him and we're like, down there, it was just. Just amazing.
B
Again, I think we started the. The, the interview looking at, like, Thailand, and the next thing you know, we were back in North America. By the time it ended, we.
A
We were above Vancouver and then we finished. He was above. We were above Vietnam. That's how it started.
B
Okay. Hey, why don't. Why don't we do that for next ra's World? Bring them in for. For like an interview with all of us. That would be awesome. That would be a great brother. I mean, there is a planet on your intro.
D
Yeah, right.
A
Which one is it?
B
Yeah, yeah. And then we'll add him to the new intro.
D
All right. Just has to shower before that interview.
B
That's true.
D
That's the deal.
A
I smell like a machine right now. No picture, obviously. I gave my Olympic picks. No more NFL. But my classic recommendation for the week, Witness, 1985 movie. Harrison Ford Stynet. It's the only acting nomination in Harrison Ford's career. It was also nominated for best picture. It's about a little Amish boy who witnesses a murder. And he people, he's the witness of the movie. And then Harrison Floyd has to kind of tuck him away, and then they're kind of coming after him. Legit. Awesome movie. Harrison Ford, like, everyone's used to, you know, Indiana Jones, Han Solo, all that stuff. This is him in a little more subdued role again, his only actor nomination in his awesome career. So Witness. Give it a whirl. You will not be disappointed. Great stuff.
D
I love it. All right, I. I also want to say having the best on best back, it. It is. You kind of forgot how sick this is. Even. Even when you look at teams like Italy and that. Oh, they're not going to do anything. It's still just so sick to see all these guys playing together and then all these dudes on the teams that don't, you know, have much expectations how hard they're going it is. I kind of forgot we got a little taste last year, but having 12 countries opposed to four, it is special. Looking forward to these next 10 days or whatever it is.
A
And boys, next podcast dropping on Monday morning, correct?
D
Yes. Monday morning we're going to get together. We're all going down to Florida. So we'll be streaming. Gee, hop on here. I know we're streaming the gold medal game. Are we streaming other games?
A
Yeah.
D
So the plan is to stream the 20th and the 22nd.
A
We'll be doing that from Yan's house down in Florida.
D
So that's gonna.
A
We're gonna stream some of the semi.
D
Final games and then we'll do the.
A
Gold medal game on the 22nd and.
B
Then we're actually gonna record a pod right after that.
D
And then that will also drop the following morning. So right after the gold medal game, you'll have our reactions the next morning. And we're going down. We're recording Sunday for this next episode and dropping Monday because Monday afternoon we got a sandbagger with coach Jon Gruden. I cannot wait for this. The guy just put on a clinic in content at the Super Bowl. He's a machine. I believe right before we started recording, he dropped an interview with Bo Jackson. So that's probably Must See TV right there, there. And we're gonna get to spend four hours on the golf course with him. That'll be coming out at some point in the next month or two.
B
What's your snap count? Can I hear your snap count?
D
I need to work on it. I want to do it in front of coach. I'm not wasting it right now. We all have to work on our. We all have to work on our snap counts and then I don't have.
F
To work on mine.
D
Oh, you have yours already. Okay. Don't give it now, though. Don't give it down. That needs to be part of the sandbagger. That needs to be part of the sandbagger.
B
And then, hey, a lot of people wondering why we didn't end up going to the Olympics. I just thought that, like, we're going to get a lot done when we're in Florida. We're going to be banking three sandbaggers down there. We're going to be getting the some of The Toronto Blue Jays, we're going to get Ernie Clement. They were trying to get Springer, but I think his wrist isn't up to snuff right now and he wants to stay focused on baseball. So I believe Hoffman is another name. Oh, there's your Bo Jackson jersey. And then I think we have Schneider as well. And then we're going to move over to Lauderdale, Yan's house and Yan's bunker. We're going to be doing tons of interviews and we will be doing the Bob does sequel, the Bob Does Sports. We're going to be taking them on back to back, one on our channel, one on theirs. So we have so many amazing interviews planned. A lot of content that we could get during this break and yeah, it sucks not to be there, but watching on TV is awesome too, man. It's nice being at the, the comfort of your own home. Why do you have that look on your face?
D
These Bob does guys, they just don't stop coming at me. It's unbelievable.
F
I told I, we, I, I was speaking to them the other day. If we, if we sweep them it, it's, it's getting changed to biz. Duh. Sports.
D
We owe these guys. It's unbelievable.
A
Hey, speaking of the super bowl yens, how about my, my mother ended up hanging out with your uncle.
F
Oh, how crazy was that? R.A. send me a picture of me, his mom and my uncle, one of my, my mom's brother who's lived in Florida from for 40 years just randomly hanging out.
A
Yeah, they both, they both at the same square. Yeah, I'm not a huge Jersey guy, but Bo Jackson's one of two I own.
B
So last thing I wanted to say. Ar I don't know if you saw the Lindsay Vaughn stuff.
D
Yeah.
B
And, and Yan. So there was one lady who came out with a critical video and it kind of went viral and I think a lot of people were dumping on her basically saying like, oh, she's doing this for attention, blah, blah, blah. Just some idiot who's probably never accomplished one thing in her life.
E
Life.
B
And it just so happens Lindsey Vaughn got injured right before the Olympics. She got like a, a chair lifted out of there or, or like whatever, helicopter evac and rupture her acl. So essentially, man, this is probably going to be her last kick at the can for the Olympics. Well, you see her like the next couple days she's back in the, in the saddle where she's training, doing leg exercises and probably trying to prehab her knee to prepare to give it her last kick at the can. And buddy, I experienced the same fucking thing where in my last year I tore my one acl. Tried to pre habit and like it had everything to do with the fact that Lindsey Vaughn is a fucking such a decorated athlete for the United States. She qualifies for this Olympics and she gets her last kick at the can and all of a sudden she ruptures her ACL right before the Olympics game. How about having the jam to to to still represent your country and go out swinging on a go. And I just talked earlier about the drone shots these guys are and girls are essentially risking their lives every time they're heading down the mountain with how fast they're going and she's doing it on A1 ACL. So heck, maybe she could put together the run of a lifetime and steal a gold medal. Gold medal. And it would probably go down as one of the greatest Olympic stories of all time. The fact that she had the jam to do that and then is facing criticism from donkeys online saying that she's doing it for attention. She's put her entire life into go into downhill skiing and she's one of the most decorated American well known athletes of all time and has done so much even away from skiing. So I commend Lindsey Vaughn for having the jam to, to, to, to do that sport on one leg and ends up you know, crashing out again and obviously her career is over. I think she's had two if not three surgeries since that crash at the Olympics. And I just wanted to make sure we, we, we gave her her flowers and her love because that's probably the last time she's going to compete at that level. And what a way to go out. And I, I have all the respect in the world for you Lindsay and, and what a career and biz.
A
I want to jump on that too. I don't know if you saw Ray Ferraro's tweet. He said, see a lot of people on here criticizing Lindsey Vaughn today. I don't know her, never met her. I had damage to my right knee as I closed out my career in O2. Got hit in my last series against Detroit and as I sat in the locker room I thought there is no way I want my career to end here. ACL gone. I was able to brace it and play the remainder of the series. Was it the right thing to do for me and many others? 100 yes. Unless you're in the arena you can never really know. The fact of the matter is that Vaughn wanted to go out on her own terms. I thought that was a great tweet by Ray.
B
What a fine by you, ra. That's incredible.
F
And that's not even the same sport. So what she's doing is raising awareness just for athletes in general. Being tough, wanting to represent your country, wanting to be there to. I mean, she's probably helped coaching half of these girls, right? Like, she's the. The head figure there. She's probably taken on a captaincy role as. As the. For the U.S. women ski team. So if you are criticizing her or think that she's doing that for her own benefit, she's done everything. She's accomplished everything she needs to. She was showing what it's like to be a true Olympian, a true American. And hats off to her and complete, complete warrior for even showing up and knowing like she knew, right? And just like you knew, just like Ray Ferrar knew. When this was over, I'm gonna have to have eight months of, you know, recovery time. My knee's never going to be the same, but that I'm going out on my own terms. So hats off to you, Lindsay. You're a gift.
B
A well said, Yansen. Great job pulling up that tweet, RA and. And that does it for ra's World, man. That was maybe my funnest one yet.
A
Good to hear, buddy. Love to hear it, pal.
B
Great energy, buddy.
A
Yeah. Love to hear it, boys. I will enjoy. Enjoy the games over the weekend. We'll be in touch and go. USA Biz. Good luck with Canada. I'll leave it there, K.
F
Won't happen again.
D
It won't happen. Won't happen, Won't happen again. A bad habit worth breaking. But it's taking time.
B
I don't know.
D
Don't let it. It's going to happen. It's going to happen again. Out on the course, they're the PGA tourist best players. But in the arena, they're prime time. And season two of TGL, presented by SoFi, is back with lights, cameras, action. We're talking big moments, big personalities, big names in the stands, all on the big screen. Big time matchups with shot clocks, Hammer drops timeouts, overtime and playoffs. It's city versus city, squad versus squad. This sport just hits different under the lights. It's TGL, presented by SoFi.
F
Keep up.
D
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Date: February 13, 2026
Hosts: Ryan Whitney, Paul Bissonnette, Rear Admiral, Mike Grinnell
Special Guest: T.J. Oshie
This episode dives deep into the first round of men's and women's hockey at the 2026 Milan Olympics, the drama around Team Canada’s accommodations, lively debates about player selection, and a nuanced, wide-ranging interview with American Olympic hero T.J. Oshie. The show also delivers its signature banter, wild stories from the Olympic village, and an irreverent take on trending sports and pop culture topics.
Timestamps: 02:00–17:00
Timestamps: 09:00–48:00
Timestamps: 31:06–33:33
Timestamps: 53:00–63:31
Ads and sponsorship reads omitted.
Timestamps: 71:04–120:00
Oshie reflects humorously on feeling awkward as a TV rookie, especially on timing analysis “between the benches.”
Oshie (71:25): "I can honestly tell you I feel comfortable 0% of the time when I’m speaking, I feel like I speak too slow. My thoughts don’t come to me fast enough… but it’s always fun being on the show."
Contrasts in what you see at ice level vs. up high.
Staggered by the younger generation’s speed, “the acceleration, the edges... my hips would be shredded if I skated now like these kids.”
Timestamps: 53:00, 141:10
Timestamps: 130:00–155:42
The episode is classic Chiclets: raucous, irreverently honest, and heavy on inside jokes and panel chemistry, mixing expert hockey insight with laugh-out-loud banter. The Oshie interview adds heartfelt, humble perspective.
Full episode and more available at Spittin’ Chiclets.