Spittin' Chiclets Episode 622: Featuring Kevin Bieksa, T.J. Oshie & Seth Jarvis' Friends

Summary

Spittin’ Chiclets Ep. 622: Featuring Kevin Bieksa, T.J. Oshie & Seth Jarvis’ Friends

Release Date: February 20, 2026
Hosts: Paul "Biz Nasty" Bissonnette, Ryan Whitney, Rear Admiral (RA), Mike Grinnell
Special Guests: Kevin Bieksa, T.J. Oshie, Friends of Seth Jarvis (aka “The Good Old Canadian Boys”)

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Episode Overview

This action-packed episode drops deep into the 2026 Olympic hockey tournaments, with a heavy focus on the women’s gold medal thriller between Team USA and Team Canada, and a deep dive into the intensity of the men’s quarterfinals and semifinals. The boys are joined by former NHLer and now-analyst Kevin Bieksa (a.k.a. "Juice"), U.S. Olympian and Stanley Cup champ T.J. Oshie, and a couple of Seth Jarvis’ Winnipeg buddies adding some comic relief and a fan’s perspective from Milan. Throughout the show, the crew balances irreverent banter, biting analysis, and heartfelt moments as they dissect dramatic on-ice action, recent NHL headlines, and touching stories from their extended hockey family.

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Olympic Hockey: Instant Classics & Shifting Power (01:51 – 17:17)

USA vs. Canada – Women’s Gold Medal Game Recap

• Dramatic Finish: Team USA pulls out an overtime win against Canada, highlighted by a nerve-wracking OT and Megan Keller’s memorable goal ([05:51], [98:15]).
• Hillary Knight Makes History: Becomes all-time leading U.S. women's Olympic scorer ([03:05], [50:26]).
• Game Details:
  • U.S. forced OT with a gritty, net-front goal from Knight.
  • Canada’s defensive strategy and goaltending stood out, with Stacey and Desbiens earning particular praise ([05:15]).
  • American youth and speed tipped the scale by game’s end.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “It just shows you how much having vets around can keep you in a game like that.” – Ian Hamilton ([05:42])
  • “That’s what Pink Whitney’s all about… making you feel happy and helping you enjoy your day.” – Biz Nasty ([01:51])

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Men’s Quarterfinals: Canada vs. Czechia Breakdown, Upsets, and Officiating Woes

• Game Summary: Canada squeaks by Czechia after a dramatic, controversial game. The famous “six men on the ice” Czech tying goal sparks rumors and debate ([19:40]-[21:46]).

• Analysis by Kevin Bieksa:

  • “Nobody in Canada was loving that game. It was stressful and anxiety, and nobody thought it was gonna be close, let alone 3-2 with seven minutes left.” ([19:26])
  • Breakdown of missed officiating and how nobody caught the too-many-men incident live ([20:39]).
  • Czechia’s red line/blue line discipline and gutsy play, with Radko Gudas earning special mentions for his “mutant” effort ([28:05]-[28:40]).
  • Suzuki’s poise at center after Crosby’s injury praised for leadership and hockey sense ([24:32]-[25:43]).
  • Debate on breaking up the top lines due to Celebrini’s dominance and impact ([37:36]-[39:19]).

• Sidney Crosby Injury Impact:

  • Bieksa shares insight on Canada’s anxiety over Sid’s status and the ripple effect on team psyche and lines ([31:24]-[34:10]).
  • “He’s never hurt. He’s just like Robocop.” – Biz Nasty ([30:48])
  • Questions on leadership, potential new lines; McDavid’s next-level performance noted.

• Referee/Officiating Debates:

  • Multiple calls in question; both sides miss/make crucial mistakes ([39:19]).
  • Bieksa and Paul agree: human error is part of the game and fans need to chill with conspiracy takes ([40:03]).

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Team USA’s Men’s Run and the Rise of U.S. Hockey (47:05 – 70:50)

T.J. Oshie on Nerves, Growth, and the “Vibe” in Team USA

• Perspective on USA’s Achievements:

  • Feels U.S. women's game has tipped the scales against Canada; years of investment and depth pay off ([49:21]).
  • “It feels like that shift is happening… you love to see it.” – T.J. Oshie ([49:41])

• Quinn Hughes Dominating:

  • Hughes’ unique impact on Team USA’s D, playing monster minutes and literally changing how forwards support and generate offense ([53:30]-[54:33]).
  • “It’s unbelievable. No one can catch him.” – TJ Oshie ([54:33])
  • Anecdotes on the team needing to relearn their attack because Hughes controls the puck so well.

• Goaltending as a Deciding Factor:

  • Oshie and the crew agree that in these tournaments, hot/tough goaltending is the great equalizer ([55:22]).

• Dylan Larkin Praised as Unsung Hero:

  • Leadership, energy, and timely scoring highlighted by both Oshie and Biz ([56:32], [57:56]).
  • Emotional anecdotes about how leaders set the tone for the next generation (e.g., Larkin to Hughes: “treat others how you want to be treated” [57:56]).

• Depth Players and Game Plans:

  • Brock Nelson, Tage Thompson, and the idea of riding the “hot hands” in one-game eliminations discussed.
  • Oshie’s detailed breakdown of how single-elimination changes everything—no shift can be wasted, and every play is magnified ([67:46]-[70:28]).

Oshie–Biz Gold Medal Bet ([72:15]+)

• The two arrange a $1,000 bet for charity plus the additional penalty of sharing social content in the victor’s jersey/booze if their country wins the men’s gold.

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Seth Jarvis’ Friends: The Fan Perspective from Milan (75:26 – 87:41)

“The Good Old Canadian Boys” – Banter and Olympic Adventure

• Hilarious recounting of how Air Canada saved their Olympic dreams after missing out on insurance for their initial trip ([76:19]).
• Emotions high: Walking into the arena, seeing their close friend play among the world’s best ([78:00]).
• Locker-room/fandom tales:
  • Rubbing a lucky loonie in the stands to spark the comeback against Czechia ([80:34])
  • Putting up a fence for Jarvis’ parents as “payment” for staying with the family ([81:46])
  • Getting scammed by a Milan taxi driver on arrival ([85:01])
• Meeting Gretzky, party atmosphere, and why Seth Jarvis has always been “the guy” in the friend group.

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NHL News, Legends, and Deep Hockey Thoughts (88:03 – 126:25)

NHL Updates and Olympic Tie-Ins

• Jeff Skinner’s Career & Departure from San Jose ([88:03]):

  • Reflection on a quietly elite even-strength scorer whose career likely ends with more 5v5 goals than Bure, Kovalchuk, Kessel, et al ([90:47]).
  • Discussion on San Jose possibly freeing up cap for Macklin Celebrini’s arrival.

• Paul Coffey Returns to Oilers’ Bench: ([91:26])

  • Crew hypes Coffey’s impact on puck-moving D, its effect on McDavid/Draisaitl’s breakout, and possible friction within Edmonton’s leadership.
  • Question if this coaching adjustment can reignite Edmonton’s Cup hopes.

Rear Admiral World: Hockey Family, Tragedy, and History ([98:15])

• Emotional shoutouts to Megan Keller for her Olympic heroics and tributes to Pierre-Edouard Bellemare and the Vetrano family (Frankie Vetrano’s brother Sam’s passing).
• Sobering discussion of a tragedy at the Dennis M. Lynch Arena in Rhode Island and message of support for the local hockey community ([128:52]).

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Rapid-Fire Fun: Music, Mysteries, and Hockey Lore ([112:47]+)

Music Debate: Favorite Rock Bands

• Fast and furious, everyone drops their top 5: Stones, Petty, Zeppelin, Oasis, Metallica, Tragically Hip, Eagles, Queen, Green Day, and more.
• “Driving to hockey with my dad… U2’s Sunday Bloody Sunday. It just brings you back.” – Ryan Whitney ([115:24])
• Discussion of why Tragically Hip is a Canadian treasure.

If You Could Have One Life Mystery Solved…?

• The hosts ponder “unsolved mysteries” of their own hockey lives and what questions they’d ask at the pearly gates.
  • Biz: Would he have made the NHL as a defenseman?
  • Whit: If he’d picked another surgeon for his foot ([123:03])
  • Fun detours into lost draft suits, how RA got into a Stanley Cup party, and more.

Oddball Listener Q&A and Chores

• Best ways to get dog shit off your shoe (puddle and a stick, obviously).
• Music’s power to evoke memories and nostalgia.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

Kevin Bieksa on the Canada–Czechia Game:

“Nobody in Canada was loving that game. It was like stressful and anxiety, and nobody thought it was gonna be close, let alone 3-2 with seven minutes left.” ([19:26])

T.J. Oshie on Quinn Hughes:

“No one can catch him. ... People had to learn how to play with him.” ([54:33])

Biz Nasty on Women’s Gold:

“That’s what Pink Whitney’s all about… making you feel happy and helping you just maybe enjoy your day a little bit more.” ([01:51])

Rear Admiral on Megan Keller’s OT Winner:

“Adrenaline through the roof and I couldn’t be happier for her. … Just an unreal game.” ([98:15])

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Key Timestamps

• 01:51 – Olympic women’s gold medal recap
• 03:05 – Hillary Knight breaks record
• 17:29: Kevin Bieksa joins, deep dive on Canada–Czechia, “six men” controversy
• 30:48: Sid Crosby injury, emotional impact and leadership
• 47:05: T.J. Oshie on USA’s gold, women’s game growth, nerves as a fan
• 54:33: Quinn Hughes’ unique influence and playing style
• 72:15: Oshie–Biz bet for gold medal game
• 75:26: Jarvis’ friends on Olympics, fandom, and misadventures in Milan
• 88:03: Jeff Skinner’s NHL legacy
• 91:26: Coffey back on Oiler’s bench, its implications
• 98:15: Rear Admiral praises Megan Keller, Bellemare tribute, and more
• 112:47: Music lightning round: best bands ever
• 123:39: Life’s unsolved mysteries – what would the boys want to know?
• 128:05: Heartfelt tribute to Frankie Vetrano’s family

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Tone & Style

• Irreverent and deeply authentic: The crew pulls no punches—equal parts cutting analysis, chirps, and heartfelt camaraderie.
• Passionate: Pulses of Olympic fervor, nostalgia for youth hockey, plus genuine support for the broader hockey family.
• Flowing and conversational: Segues move easily from high-stakes hockey debates to goofy life stories, never forced, always honest.

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Closing Thoughts

This episode is a microcosm of Spittin’ Chiclets at its best: breaking down the highest drama in international hockey, granting access to the sport’s inner sanctum with puck legends, and reminding the listeners that the hockey world is both fiercely competitive and deeply connected. Whether you’re there for the tactical breakdowns, the fan antics from Milan, or just the laughs, it’s a ride from buzzer to buzzer.

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Transcript

[Ryan Whitney]

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[Biz Nasty]

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[Paul Bissonnette]

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[Biz Nasty]

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[Ryan Whitney]

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[Biz Nasty]

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[Paul Bissonnette]

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[Biz Nasty]

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[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

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[TJ Oshie]

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[Biz Nasty]

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[Ian Hamilton]

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[Biz Nasty]

What is up folks? Welcome to episode 622 of the Spitting Chicklets podcast where Keith and I are now gold medal winners in the women's ice hockey division of the Olympics this year. The game just ended and we got to shout out Pink Whitney first because the celebratory Pink Whitney shots that we had after that beautiful goal in overtime for the Team usa, it was just something to behold. And to do it in front of you biz and to be able to have this pink Whitney and celebrate with this pink Whitney, you, it just felt great. And that's what pink Whitney's all about. Making you feel good, making you feel happy and helping you just maybe enjoy your day a little bit more with a nice fresh pink Whitney on the rock. So shout out them. Shout out us.

[Ryan Whitney]

Shout out.

[Ian Hamilton]

Would you look at us the girls shows of American hockey team. What an app. That's what they call a rope. A dope is you got all high and mighty early. Your team looked awful. Our team didn't look great. And what do you know, it's a 60 minute game.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It is.

[Biz Nasty]

And it actually went even longer than that.

[Ian Hamilton]

It went longer. And when even the young legs came in, Canada's done. I can't see them winning a medal for a long, a gold for a long, long time.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I'm going to take the high road on all that arrogance and just congratulate you guys on a gold medal with, with the women's team. So and very cool that Hillary Knight becomes the, the all time leading goal scorer for in women's for the Olympics for us. Oh I. Okay, I thought it was, I thought it was all time but I think

[Biz Nasty]

that was all US women with her 15th goal tying it up. And we were talking about how much, how entertaining that hockey's been.

[Ian Hamilton]

Right?

[Biz Nasty]

And what was crazy is that I think they played a. They play series against each other right. Like leading up and in one of them like us just trounced him. And then we saw the round robin game where even you were like, wow, I think this is just the torch has completely been passed. And then it was the perfect game plan and gameplay by Canada throughout the entire game. I mean they get a shorthanded goal on a beautiful, beautiful individual move. It was a two on one and unfortunately there was a really kind of tough back check. Is it Layla Edwards on the back check there? And she kind of had, she had nothing left. She had nothing left in the tank. But they score that goal. Well, what does she do? She's on the ice when the goal he's pulled puts the perfect snapshot through and Hillary Knight tips it between her legs, ties it up. We go to OT and then chances back and forth. Yeah, but oh my God, was the, the goal by Keller just beautiful.

[Ian Hamilton]

How about the back check on the breakaway?

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, I forgot about that. The back check on the breakaway at the beginning of overtime. I don't remember who made that back check.

[Ian Hamilton]

It was the girl who made that pass.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It was similar to Taves on nature in college in the, in the Canada versus Chechia game, very similar, but a little bit more of a strip. I think he just still got a bit of a shot off.

[Biz Nasty]

I think Canadians were a little upset because it was almost a kind of a stick lift slash at the hands. I think when.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Let him play.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, let him play. I like that. I respect that.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I actually thought the Canadians got away with a few in regulation as far as what the calls were. And I felt like, hey, you know, at that point, you know, I think we, we'd seen enough. I. I'd rather just it it the ref stay out of the way and just let the girls figure it out. But Des Ba, the goaltender for Canada, she had an incredible game. A lot of amazing stay saves. I thought Stacy, number seven for Canada was absolutely incredible.

[Biz Nasty]

Probably blocking shots.

[Paul Bissonnette]

She looked like one of their fastest players.

[Ian Hamilton]

Classic.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah, yeah, she was. She would block one with her hand. But yeah, man, it was, it was a great, great, entertaining game. And those are the two leading nations as far as the women are concerned. And what else can you do, man? It's a kick in the dick for me. But wait, it's your 43rd birthday and thank you. First of all, happy birthday and thank you very much. I'm happy that you got the win on your special day.

[Ian Hamilton]

Hey, can we talk about two? The goaltending? Both goaltendings were incredible, but USA had a younger team right there in the first game. They blow the doors off of Canada. And it just shows you how much having vets around can keep you in a game like that. Where on paper they're probably a better team. USA being the better team, but they take them to overtime. Shout out to all the ladies on the Canadian team. Hard fought game.

[Biz Nasty]

Usa just incredible. But you're right, Keith, in terms of like, you get to the gold medal game and that's where the veterans and the leaders and the girls who've been there before and the game biz, it was. You were saying an army was texting the group, like, this is exactly what they had to do. You could not get to the front of the net against Canada. No, no, they packed it in and they had a great forecheck and they had great backtracking and it was like, oh my God, are they gonna get shut out? The US Women? But they stuck with it.

[Ian Hamilton]

I heard they called Ken Danico and were like, hey, how do we shut this team? Wesley and Glenn Wellesley.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah.

[Ian Hamilton]

And. And they did it. They did a great job. Whatever. They changed up. Shout out to their.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Well, they had Marie Philip Poulain in the lineup, right. So their captain, and that'll calm things down. But going back to the gameplay, I would assume the strategy for Canada is, you know, USA was bringing it. I thought that the little plays they made in the defensive zone, breaking out were unbelievable. A lot of reverses and a lot of those, like, short little plays to the middle that, you know, they're not these big fancy, you know, stretch passes or whatever, just great center support. And I really think for. For a lot of that game, it was frustrating in the US because they really couldn't keep the puck in the ozone. They'd get it there, they'd be for checking, but Canada would find a way to. To get the thing out.

[Biz Nasty]

But, yeah, no sustained pressure, but.

[Paul Bissonnette]

But ultimately I did think in that third period, Canada kind of kept hanging back a little too much, and then, you know, eventually they get that big Ozone draw win. And then Layla Edwards over to Hillary Knight. Beautiful tip and good night.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, it wasn't even off I was going to bring. It wasn't the. It wasn't a face off. It was. Wasn't it off of a. A dump in. And it was the retrieval. Right. So when you pull the goalie, like, I don't think people that didn't play notice how big the retrieval is of getting two to three, in this case, girls on the puck and then getting it off the wall, because the longer the defensive team can keep it on the wall, it's just that the clock's ticking away, but they were able to get set up, and then you were able to see D to D and the shot gets through. But it was a great game.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I could have sworn it was after the. The timeout that they called and they went to the benches, and then they won that draw.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay, well, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm the winner, so I'm not really that wrong. So we got a legend.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It's my birthday. I can cry if I want, but

[Biz Nasty]

it's tears of joy today. It's tears of joy. So I hope moving forward, one thing as good as the girls are getting, somehow some way to. To get some other countries that can compete. Yeah, and it's. It's amazing. Every year, you know, you got US Canada gold medal game and the women's Olympics, but if you could get Finland, Sweden to reach a different level. I. I read something that Sweden, after. It might have been the 06 Olympics, they lost a lot of funding to their women's program because of their Performance and whoever was doing the funding didn't think that they were playing well enough to be earning or. Or having this money go to Swedish women's hockey. And they were back in the semifinals for the first time this year. So, you know what I'm saying? You just want. You want more countries.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I mean, we were saying it on the men's side, and they got way more competitive teams, but definitely need more funding there, and that was just great entertainment.

[Ian Hamilton]

I think they're going to have some money to give to the women's team when they fire the coach for team.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Oh, that's right.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. We'll get into that. And so, yeah, so kind of an action packed episode here for you. We. We had a lot of fun talking to Juice, so he's going to come back on with us and go over Canada, go over their game, talk about the semifinal game against Finland. Oshi's been asking to come back on. He's been calling out biz. He says, I want to get back on. So he's going to come on, talk about us, their big win against Sweden and preview their game against Slovakia. And who else? I think we got Jarvis's buddies. So the Maniacs. The Winnipeg Maniacs are there. And they.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I drove in the Winnebago.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay.

[Ian Hamilton]

They did.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, that's. That's, that's exactly. They got a floating one that they only make in Winnipeg. So we're going to have those guys on soon. We've had a great week so far. Unreal. So we've had three sandbaggers. We've had a lot to do down here.

[Paul Bissonnette]

We landed here Sunday.

[Biz Nasty]

Yep. Record the show.

[Paul Bissonnette]

We did. We did the show together. And then Monday we kicked things off with the Toronto Blue Blue Jays.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. So Ernie Clement, who we had Schneider. Yeah, Davis, Schneider. And we had Nathan Lucas. So awesome, guys. This one got. This one got intense, to say the least. Lucky enough the next day to drive to the Copperhead course where they play the Valspar Tournament, I think in about a month. PGA beauty. We had the course to ourselves. It was crazy. Against Jon Gruden, teamed up with Patrick Maroon and Ryan McDonough. So five Stanley cup rings and a Super bowl ring for Gruden. Gruden. What you. What you're hoping you might see from them, it. It exceeds it. I mean, I think if you could

[Ian Hamilton]

pay to have somebody be around you, I would give every single doll I've ever made to have him around me from the time I got up. Not the time he got up. Because I don't think he sleeps. But imagine just waking up and that guy just pissing vinegar all day. I bet there's not a dull moment in that guy's. His wife must be an absolute saint.

[Biz Nasty]

He said she is the same. She's a ballroom dancer too. He's like, you know that man, I don't got, I don't have any good moves though, man. I'm a football guy. So I was interested going into that.

[Paul Bissonnette]

He's in the corner by the, by the punch, working on the snap.

[Biz Nasty]

No, he says he just, he says he just goes over the tape of her.

[Ian Hamilton]

Oh yeah, your feet ham man. Not good enough.

[Biz Nasty]

Come on, man. She's like, I'm should have gave it the windmill there.

[Ian Hamilton]

He's literally escaped the pressure. Is he the most as advertised guy who is not trying to be anybody else. It's just him to an absolute core. And what a treat that guy. I wish that round was 19 hours long.

[Biz Nasty]

Yep. And then we, we came to the east coast, came right over here that night because we had a third one. Now this one created some pissed off people.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I should land on this grenade. Oh, I can.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. I, I well explain kind of what, what went down.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Well, it's hard because we do these sandbaggers and when we don't come out with sandbaggers, we have a lot of our fan base when the you guys doing sandbaggers. When you're doing sandbaggers. Well, you guys have lives and wives and kids and when we get together we have to, you know, bank a bunch of them. So this was planned probably about six weeks ago. Yan's was kind enough to call out to his very nice course that he's a member at. And we scheduled the day, we scheduled the tee time and we scheduled the people that we're going to play against. Bob does they have busy schedules as well. So the time that we could get the course was 11 o' clock and it would probably be about a four hour round around to about 3 to 3:30. Well, it turns out it's when Canada's playing its quarterfinal matchup. And I listen, we heard all you guys complaining even though we were watching the overtime goal on our phones. Because you can watch hockey on your phones now. I don't know if you guys at home know that. Did I watch every minute? No, not while the game was going on. I watched the game last night and then I watched again this morning at breakfast to see the entire.

[Biz Nasty]

You actually have seen the game more than everyone who was watching live because You've watched it twice now.

[Paul Bissonnette]

So. So that. And also you're not worried about like live tweeting and kind of interacting with fans. So any. Any question that any fan would want to ask me about the game, I could break it down. I could tell you exactly who played the best, who. I was most impressed with the swings of the game. I know that the coach for. For Chechio was complaining about officiating after the game. I actually thought that check probably got away with more throughout that game. Do I think they had a couple soft ones called against them? Absolutely. I didn't like the Goudis one. I didn't like the one where everybody was cross checking each other. McKinnon ended up scoring on that one in the corner and. And then they ended up taking only the check player. I believe it was Michael. Is it Michael Kempe?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah, Michael Kevin. I thought that that was a soft one, but then again, like, they missed a bad interference one on Crosby that we watched over and over before the injury. Not before the injury. Not the goudest one. What was the other one they missed? They missed the high stick to Hegel and of course, the infamous six players on the ice for that goal. Now we'll. We'll dive into the whole game. But going back to it. Yeah. Like, if you're disappointed in me and you want to keep ragging me online because I didn't watch live, like, I really think you need to get a life.

[Ian Hamilton]

Don't Canadians only care about gold medal games?

[Paul Bissonnette]

That's the other thing too. Like, we're. We have a lot of jobs. We have a lot of things. We do. Oh, you guys knew about the game in advance.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

It's like.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Well, I was the kind of the one that had to bite the bullet there because my team was playing. And the US has constantly got the late games in this tournament.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, like, if I can get defend you for a minute, we knew. Yeah. Oh, shit, that's quarterfinal day. But today we had the podcast and we had the women's gold medal. So it's like, all right, well, we can. We can't really do the sandbagger on Thursday. The course couldn't even do Thursday, so. Oh, shit. We got the quarterfinals. And then we're kind of hoping at that point that 14 off at 10:30, 11. It's Finland, it's not Canada. US. You ended up being on the short.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Whatever I could, buddy, I could take it. I get abused by you guys every show and you know, and then on top of that, in order to get Bob does. We have to return the favor. So we're actually golfing Saturday for their channel. So we're busy boys down here. We just banked an interview with Jeff o', Neill, one of our white whales. Once again, man, I don't really give a flying about the quarterfinals, even though it was an incredible game. I care about gold medals, and that's what we do. That's what we do.

[Biz Nasty]

You guys are going to the first one and you're gonna love Jeff o'.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Neill.

[Biz Nasty]

I mean, he is. Exactly. And I think I told him about seven years now. People have been just saying, where's Odog? Can you get o dog? And he was, he was great. So everyone, I think you're gonna love that one.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I think James Duffy opened up the floodgates for that, though. I mean, he was on, he was electric on our pod and we, I think we'd had him on even before that, so.

[Ian Hamilton]

And we fulfilled his birthday wish, which was one of the best reactions.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, we'll save that one for you guys. And then for usa, which we'll get into with Osh. Quinn Hughes is not of this earth. He's not from this planet.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It looks like he bags groceries. This guy's fucking dominating the hockey world.

[Biz Nasty]

He, he. Every game, I think he played eight more minutes than the next defenseman on Team usa. So he is the clear cut number one there. Whenever he's on the ice, it seems like he has the puck and his escapability in his skating and that goal was just so beautiful. After creating all these chances, he's tied for the, the team lead in scoring with, I think Austin Matthews and him both have six points and it's just been so cool to see what he's been able to do. And you, you, you know, you, you kind of appreciate like, wow, like if they had him last year, maybe that game goes different. I obviously, I don't know. And hopefully we get to see these two teams play on Sunday in the gold medal game. But he has been a treat to watch. And that goal, that was nerve wracking, man. This three on three overtime, whether it was the women today, whether it was Finland, Swiss Canada deals with it and then America deals with three of the four men's quarters, go to three on three overtime. And crazy games too.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I mean, Finland was down 2 nothing. 2 nothing with 6 minutes left against the Swiss. So a remarkable comeback. The big dogs getting it done in that one. Without Barkov in the lineup. You got Sebastian Ajo, Miro Haskin and then. And then Lekin and the. The puck hound. Yeah, the puck hound mutant. Getting it done in overtime for them. But I think to summarize that whole day of hockey, you just have to look at Elliot Friedman's post and it wasn't even any words spoken. It was a picture of him holding the cigarette.

[Biz Nasty]

Yep.

[Paul Bissonnette]

He needed. We had a lot of cigarettes this week, but certainly not as stressful as that situation for him. But a very funny tweet that ended up going viral. But should we just dive into the Canada game now? Okay, we're actually going to send this bad boy to Kevin Bxa right now.

[Biz Nasty]

Let's do it.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Boom.

[Biz Nasty]

And here he is, guys. Two in a row. So lucky to be joined again.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Juice.

[Biz Nasty]

Kevin bxa. He is in Milan and oh my God, since we talked, has a lot happened, buddy. What?

[Ryan Whitney]

What?

[Biz Nasty]

A hockey game yesterday between the Czechias and Canada.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And Juice, I have to say I've had quite a few, like women DM me say, you need to make this guy a regular because they just think you're the most handsome man on the planet. They basically, they think you're the. Don't even start. Don't even.

[Ryan Whitney]

You.

[Paul Bissonnette]

You. You're not. Hey, don't worry. My. At least my sister's not. Your name's not Paul.

[Ian Hamilton]

My only question is, have you found a wine opener?

[Paul Bissonnette]

Oh, oh, Canada's bringing home.

[Biz Nasty]

I took it from Jarvis's buddies.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Peer pressured into buying this. I went to the supermarket yesterday and I found one and it was. I think this was the only one in there. It was €15. So that's like a hundred dollars Canadian biz. 100 Canadian. And I bought it just so I could have one. I haven't used it yet, but I. At least I have my own corkscrew.

[Paul Bissonnette]

You should charge a dollar every time somebody wants to use it. You make your money back.

[Biz Nasty]

That's how Biz sold his Abercrombie. Used just like that. Hey, hey, Juice, did you ever think that Elliot's cigarette tweet would go that viral? What a move. Great call by him post game.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

It was. It was a great comment. And yeah, like he. And he loves that stuff too, right? When it lives on forever. And he likes. He likes saying things that get a. Sometimes a negative reaction. Like he is the least sensitive guy. Like when he says something, he'll read the comments and when someone actually carves him in the comments, he'll like laugh and he'll actually like it. He'll like. Somebody will be legitimately like, making fun of him and he'll like, the. The comment.

[Paul Bissonnette]

So.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

But then he got, like, the positive stuff. Like, it was a great comment. I think that's how. That's how everybody was feeling after that game.

[TJ Oshie]

Like, we.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

We came on after the game, and Elliot's like, what a great game. Like, oh, no, that was not it.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Nobody.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Nobody in Canada was, like, loving that game. It was, like, stressful and anxiety, and nobody. Nobody thought it was gonna be close, let alone three, two, with seven minutes left, you know, although it took 14 checks on the ice to score the goal.

[Biz Nasty]

So did you notice it? Did you see it live?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

No, guys, no.

[Biz Nasty]

It's crazy.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Nobody saw it. And there's a lot of really smart, intelligent hockey people and people on the TV technical side. The one thing is, from, like, a TV standpoint is we just have the one universal feed. I feel like if it happened in Hockey Night in Canada or like, what.

[TJ Oshie]

When we have.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

If we had our own truck there and we had all the different looks, we would catch it. But no, no word of a lie until it came up on. On Twitter and Instagram. After nobody knew, I walked by. Probably 20 minutes after the game, I walked by Gudis and a bunch of the checks, and some of the guys that I played with, a guy on the team, Kasha, and just talking to them, they were obviously really down, but said, hey, you guys played unbelievable. But then we showed them, like, hey, did you know you had six guys on the ice when you scored? And they're, like, putting their head up to the phone like, what, What? What? Like, 20 minutes after the game, they had no idea. Like, that's how I flew under the radar.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Even the way. Like, the. The. Like the. What do you call it? The lens, like, scan through it was hard to catch it. And on top of that, the checks have the red pants and the red shoulders, and kind of the way they're skating hunched over, it was just so much red. So I feel like it was just hard to catch. Unless you, like, freeze the frame when the five guys were in it. And then as soon as it panned, there was only five guys in the frame again. But obviously, the one popped off the right side so you could clearly see it was six. And then on top of that, there were seven guys in the goal pile. Like, they had seven.

[Biz Nasty]

It was like, USA 1980, when the whole bench.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It was like they sent another guy out there to really confuse him. Like, oh, there's no way there was seven guys on the ice.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, like, the seven in a pile. I think if you're in that Pile. As a player, you don't really. Yeah, but you don't think like you're like, oh, maybe somebody was about to change. They came off, you know, the plus minus thing, and there's more people in the pile. But like, it's wild that nobody, nobody really knew on the bench afterwards too. Like the guy who jumped off, I don't know if it was pull out or not, but the guy who jumped on, do you even think he really knew? Like, feels like nobody knew. It was just a big oversight.

[Biz Nasty]

And it's, I said earlier, it's shocking that like coaches and players know, it's like immediately usually like the whole bench starts flipping out. Six, six, six. And like you said, it was just one of those times that it just flew under the radar and they actually fucking scored on it. But I'm wondering what you, what, what did checks do so well to, to make that, that close of a game? Like, what did you see in terms of like their effort and in shutting down this, this offense that looked like unstoppable?

[Paul Bissonnette]

Do you feel like they held the red line and the blue line really well early?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, they did like, like Gutas jumped up and intercepted a couple passes and they did all the technical stuff that you, you try to do against the high flying teams, like, you know, tight gap, hold the blue line, congest the neutral zone. But I don't know, like, like Canada scored that first, the Celebrini goal. It felt like it was going to be another romp, but I don't know, Canada just didn't, didn't quite execute the way they did the first three games. Like the way we saw them move the pock and fly through the neutral zone. And I don't know if there was like some more nerve from the Canadians, it seemed like, but they were, they bobbled a couple pocks. Like McCarr iced the pot. Makar was great, you know, and he played 26 minutes, but he iced the puck early. I remember thinking like, wow, like they're just, they're just a little bit off. And then it seemed like the checks kind of their confidence grew and they saw Canada was a little off. They played a little harder, they played a little tighter and you know, the longer that game goes, the more doubt there's going to be in Canada.

[TJ Oshie]

Right?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Like they wanted it to be kind of a nice, smooth, easy game. And then Crosby goes down. You know, McKinnon's not, McKinnon's not right. Like, he's just not moving the right way. He's not Doing cutbacks. So that kind of, you know, crap crept up a little bit and then the lines go in a blender. I don't know if you guys were watching. Like, I felt like I was so fascinated with the line, the line decisions that Cooper was making just to like, what do you do? He basically went three centers the rest of the game. When Sid went down, he didn't even try to move a guy at the center. Like there was one shift with Marshan Wilson and I think Hagel out there where there was not an actual centerman. But for the rest of the game he played three centermen.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I guess we could probably go to Suzuki. I was pretty impressed with, you know, obviously the game went the way he wasn't playing a ton. He ends up missing that pretty much open net. But then that third period after Crosby had gone down, like they start rolling him out there and that play he makes on the tying goal, like he had a few guys behind him changing and he said he realized that like that was probably a play a lot of guys might dump in, going like 1 verse 2. He ends up fucking dumping it in, going to get that own dump in and then end up being the, the tip in front. So how impressed were you by him and his ability to all of a sudden hop in? And he's right in that one of the 3 centimeter role.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

I, I just think when you watch him play the, the people that wanted to push for him to be on the team, watch him play center and watch them have a great start to the season at center and then you get him here and some guys can transition and play the wing and it's okay. But he played on the wing with McKinnon and he never looked comfortable on the wing. And he's just one of those guys maybe that he, he can only play center. He's gotta be in the middle of the ice. He doesn't love the wall for some of those like little board plays. He's good down low defending. And as soon as he got to center, his game just took off. Like that play on the goal, it wasn't like anything special, but it was. It just shows you how hard he is on the puck, how high percentage he is. Yet you're right. He had two guys changing biz. And in my, like in his head, I'm thinking he just wants to dump it in, put a little token pressure. Yeah. Maybe get the puck back and then just buy some time for the other two new guys to come in. Then he's going to finish the change but he did such a good job ragging the puck that he kind of got possession. And then once, you know, they get full possession, he's like, oh, I'm just going to go to the net quickly. And then the beautiful tip. So kind of like a showcase of, like, his hockey sense, his iq, how hard on the puck he was. But now he goes from the guy. Like, everybody was talking about him not being in the lineup.

[Biz Nasty]

I said it to you on Sunday night.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, you guys said it like. Like most of Canada was like, oh, he's the guy that's coming out for sure. And then look how he turns into the hero.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah, I thought it was cool, too. He ended up missing that empty net. He hit the inside of the post, like the inside of the far post. And then coming off the ice, you see Stone give him the couple ass taps, being like, hey, kind of shake that off, buddy. Like, we're good here. I just think that those little moments probably go a long way, especially for a guy like that who might feel like he hasn't found his role. Knowing a guy like Mark Stone, as clutch as he's been, he's, you know, he's a Team Canada guy all the time just to kind of get that love coming off.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah. I mean, that's where you need the. The leadership on the bench.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Because you could tell guys weren't. They weren't feeling it. It wasn't one of those games where everyone feels amazing. And I. I just saw it in the second intermission. I think I heard Sid went in after he got undressed and kind of did a speech or a little pickup. You guys might want to. You might investigate a little bit there or whatever, but I'm sure that helped. I think guys like Dowdy were really good at just keeping it light because you could tell there was some tension.

[Ian Hamilton]

And.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

And when they scored to tie the game, like, we're.

[Paul Bissonnette]

We're.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Our panel is all the parents, for whatever reason were. Were sat below us so you could see all the parents. It was relief.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

It wasn't necessarily joy. It was like, oh, thank God. Thank God. We're back to a tie game. And then when they scored the OT goal, obviously, like, the celebration started, but I don't know. Is that. Is this a good thing? Like, in the. In the tournament is scared, like, yeah, if they, if they romp the checks, they get the fins. They're not really that afraid of the fins. And who knows if the fins were the team that upset. Now you're worried if you're A Canadian. If you're like, wow, we're not as good as maybe we thought, like, we got. We can't win this game if we don't play our A game.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Oh, and the way that like, the checks rallied together, like, I mean, the, the, the prime, the prime suspect. I just thought Goudas, like, he was a mutant. That was the game of his life. No, like, he, he must have killed six or seven guys. He makes that play, jumps up, intercepts the pass that stone, tries to throw across ice, and then he sets it up in the offensive zone. Like, not to say it was planned, but, you know, he gets that stick on in on Sid, ends up that going down. I felt that the game got a lot chippier after that after Sid went down, like, where all that cross checking was going down in the corner. Did you notice that?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, yeah, it did. I, I gutas back to like, Goodis is a gamer. Like, when I, you guys know when I got into the fight with him and it was kind of one of my, like my Superman punches that landed. And after that fight, a lot of guys in the league reached out to me that I didn't know and they were like, great. Like, thank God you finally got him. Thank God you finally got him because, like, his rep was always like, he's. He's a little bit dirty, he's a

[Paul Bissonnette]

little bit on the edge.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

He's a little. But then when you get to know him and you get to like, talk to his teammates, he's an. Actually an unbelievable guy.

[Ian Hamilton]

One of the best teammates of all time.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Oh, I like when he first got to Anaheim, Yens, I went out with him and another mutual friend for like, a glass of wine and it's like, no, I, we. We're at a restaurant with multiple corkscrews. So we had. It's like instant when you know you like a guy, it's like instant. And now I see him all the time. You know, we were out for dinner just before the Olympics. He's an unbeliev. Unbelievable guy. And then you see how he plays. He's a gamer. He's going to play hard. You know that. But they almost needed a guy like him to if they were going to upset Canada. And they almost did it.

[Ian Hamilton]

And one. One of the best family men I've ever played with too. Just an unbelievable dad. But I wanted to ask you. Is in with, you know, all the talk about coming into. Into the tournament with the goaltending in Bennington, they get a breakaway at the, you know, netrus gets a breakaway. Is there any guy in the league that you. You would want back there more than Bennington? Because to me, it just feels like he's one of those guys. He's like, give me this breakaway. Like, I want this. I want to make this save.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, I think his attitude is a big reason why he's the starting goaltender for this team, because his numbers aren't good. He hasn't had a great season. I, you know, I mentioned before he came to the tournament, he hadn't won it. He's won one game in regulation since December 8th. Like, he. He was as ice cold as you get. And then you. You hear John Cooper after the first game. Oh, he's been my starter for 365 days. Like, I've never even considered. And I think it's because of his attitude, because he has that. That fu attitude. He's like, bring it on. Challenge me again. He's been super contained emotionally this tournament. If you guys notice, he hasn't lost his cool. Guys, bump him. He's fine. But, man, he's like, he's turning kind of into the mvp, a little bit of the team. Where again, another guy that everyone was questioning, like, is it Thompson? Like, Thompson's a better goalie this year. Who knows about Kemper? Maybe Kemper. And there's so many question marks. Our whole pregame show for the first game was about the goaltending. And I'm like, guys, enough with the goaltending. Like, we talk about goaltending so much. Like, who cares, right? Like, who cares? It's Canada. They're going to outscore every team. And now, like, I'm kind of regretting those words. Like, the Biddington decision might have been the one thing that gets them to the finals.

[Biz Nasty]

I was kind of gutted, not only for Sid, but for Canada. And I. I thought of the Penguins right away. I was like, oh, my God. Like, you know, not knowing how severe it was. Like, all the season they're having, but. And even then, the picture comes out after of his dad standing up, kind of horrified. His mom's got her. Her hand over her face. Just like, oh, my God. Like, he's never. He's never heard. He's just like, Robocop. And I don't know if you're hearing anything. I don't know if any of the guys. Like, after. I know Doughty spoke. It was pretty good, actually, talking about what he means to the country and all those guys. But, you know, how tough was that for you to see? And are you hearing anything?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, it sucks to see. Because, you know, I. I've said from the beginning of the tournament, I want to see USA Canada final just because I want to see the best on best, and I want to see Crosby in that game. Like, I want to see the best players in the world play against each other and see. See who wins, you know, Like, I'm hearing a little bit here. I. I think he's going to try to play. I don't know if he's going to be able to, but I think he's gonna. He's gonna try. So I think everyone who's seen the injury can kind of, you know, guess what they think it is, and. And then guess, you know, like, how hard it is to play with what he probably has. And I. I think he's going to try. I don't know. Like, it might be one of those things where maybe he wakes up in the morning tomorrow and. And sees how he feels. Maybe he takes warmup and then you just see. Like, I had a game once, my first year in the playoffs. It was game seven. We were playing the Dallas Stars, and the game before, I was shooting a puck out on the penalty kill, and a player put a stick in the way, and I shot through a stick, and I tore three muscles in my abdominal. I left that game. And then we went back to Vancouver for game seven. And in warmup, I got, you know, seven needles of tortle in my abdominal, and, like, it didn't work. It just froze my abdominal, but didn't help that. And before the game, Vino comes up to me and says, are you going to play? And I go, yeah, I'm in. And he goes, if you play the game, though, you better finish the game. Like, I can't. You can't leave after one period.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

And in warmup, guys, I couldn't even shoot the puck. I could only flick it. I couldn't rotate my torso. And he goes, so make this decision, Alex. I'd rather play Rory Fitzpatrick. If you can't finish the game, we can't play this game with 5D. And I lied right through my teeth, and I'm like, I'm good. I will finish this game.

[TJ Oshie]

And in my head, I'm like, I got five shifts.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Five shifts total. What. What'd you end up playing?

[Biz Nasty]

27 minutes.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Well. Well, that's. Yeah. Then Sammy Salo got hurt. We only had 5D. And honestly, guys, I couldn't shoot the puck. I just survived. I flicked the puck out, probably end up playing, like, 20 minutes was that

[Biz Nasty]

the series that game one went to triple overtime.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Quadruple over time. Hey, that's a big reason why I

[Biz Nasty]

think that I got my first night at TSN and I, I said, oh, I hope Whoever was down, three, two, I hope they tie it up. And Bob, Bob McKenzie goes. You shut your mouth. Know the rules.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

You learn that media quick, right? Do not cheer for overtime.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah, if, if. No Crosby. We always talk about the passing of the torch throughout that game. Like, McDavid was easily the most noticeable guy on the ice. I think he set up like six or seven grade A's. He ended up having seven shots on net. So, I mean, he's obviously taken things to another level and I would imagine that he's going to take it to an even better notch.

[Biz Nasty]

Sorry to add on that Coop said that if Sid doesn't play, they're gonna put the C on someone else. I was kind of interested, like, surprised by that. Were you? Yeah.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

I mean, I don't know, but do you think.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Is that from Frog? Is that from Frank Saravelli?

[Biz Nasty]

I think it's an Olympic rule that you have to have a captain, so.

[TJ Oshie]

Okay. All right.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Would you. Could you. Could you see them as putting the extra guy on the bench, just being Sid, just there with the C. But then you keep.

[Biz Nasty]

You keep Bennett, you give it to

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

McDavid, I would think you give him the C and. Well, how about this? And I've had some people mention this. Like, I thought naturally, without Sid, you put. You keep Suzuki there with his line. You have Horvat play center. Another line, you have Bennett come in as a centerman. But somebody's like, would you put celebrity at center now? Like, he's. He's playing well enough, he might be able to carry his own line. Do you think about putting celebrity at center?

[Paul Bissonnette]

I would more just try to keep the chemistry between those top guys because they're like almost the guarantee line between those two. Especially the way, like, Celebrity, that goal. Like the way that he kind of just like pushes it and how he gets it off so quick. Like, I feel like these guys are doing things so much more different now. Just what a remarkable player. Who were. Who were like the most other noticeable guys for.

[Biz Nasty]

I thought Nexus was unbelievable.

[Paul Bissonnette]

He was incredible.

[Biz Nasty]

He is so fast, it's crazy.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Nature's is good.

[TJ Oshie]

He.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

I thought he started the tournament a little bit slower too. He actually started on the line with Posternach and it just didn't work. And then he kind of got going. He seemed like, yeah, he was good Gudis was good obviously for Canada though, like, you're right. Connor's line was the only line that consistently created chances. After that it was like after Sid got hurt, you didn't see Stone and Marner for eight minutes.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I didn't notice. Like, I'm not trying to even knock on the guy. Like throughout the full 60 minutes, there wasn't one time I'm like, oh, Marner just like made a really good play where they generated a chance. But hey, man, big players come up with big moments. And that three on three, like him going one on three and getting that much leverage off that backhand. And originally you thought. And how do I pronounce the dostal?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, I, I thought it was a. I thought he kind of had a bad angle on it. But it re. Re. Watching it. It was just the perfect shot.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It was perfect backhand juice.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, he. So when they came on, everyone's like, you know, in between periods, oh, who are they going to start? They got to start McKinnon, McDavid and Makara. So they do. And then it's funny now it's like, okay, who's next? Because a lot of guys didn't play a lot because they really shortened the bench to kind of get to where it was. So you know when, when a guy's been sitting on the bench for like 3/4 of the third period or even half the third period, they're cold and you almost as a coach, you kind of lose them. You're like, I don't really want to put him out now in this situation if he hasn't played in 30 minutes of real time. So you start looking at the guys who, you know are still in a rhythm. So celebrating was an easy one. And then Cassie Campbell goes, Marner. Marner. And Celebrity would be good. So they go out next with Harley. So now like I'm watching Celebrity come off the bench and I'm like, okay, 19 year old kid, overtime. Like tons of pressure. Like Canada's in one. And what does he do? He skates off the bench and Harley has the puck behind that. He skates right down and basically takes the puck off of Harley. Give me the puck. I'm 19. I'm going to make something. He skates up, weaves his way through. Nice draw pass to Marner and then Marner does the rest. But Celebrity just continues to, to amaze you, man. Like, so that's.

[Paul Bissonnette]

So that's the reason why you would consider breaking them up. Because right now you just feel like he has the attitude where Like, I'm a dog, I'm an alpha dog. I'm going to drive my own, my own, my own play. And, and you would be willing to separate them in order to do that?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

I'm just considering it. I, it wasn't my idea, it was somebody else's. And originally I barked back. I'm like, stupidest thing I've ever heard. And then because it was probably Elliot's idea, now I'm, I'm starting to consider it. I'm like, well, the center position's pretty important and you need a centerman to drive the line. And Celebrini is hounding the puck right now and I think he can handle it.

[Paul Bissonnette]

He's telling you while blowing cigarette smoke in your face.

[Ian Hamilton]

But even we talked to Oshi earlier and he said what you'd said. Like, he's demanding the puck out there. He wants it every shift. Like that's the type of guy for that young of a player. Like, you don't see that that often. Like, do you, do you notice guys are even looking for him? Or he's just demanding it?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

He's. I, I noticed the opposite. I noticed guys that are kind of like when the games get big and there's. And some guys, I don't know, everyone's different. But some guys, in their head, they're like, I don't want to be the guy that messes up. And the guys are like kind of two touching pucks maybe. And like they're a little bit nervous, a little bit jittery with the puck. And the two guys that haven't been. Or three guys I would say are McCar, McKenna or sorry, McCarma, David and Celebrini. Like those three guys have continued to have that mentality. Like, I'm going to go get the puck. Like, it's like the Michael Jordan mentality. Like, I want to be the guy that misses. Like I'll, I'll be. If I miss, that's fine. But I'm taking the shot. Like, I'm not even going to hesitate. I want this shot. And all three of those guys have that mentality. So when the rest of the team is kind of like a little nervous, those three guys are just still bull by the horns.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I thought it was a pretty well officiated game, like where maybe there was a few mistakes on both sides for the officials. I don't know if I read wrong. I feel like the, the Chechya coach came out and said we fake. We felt like we were playing against another player out there. Like it was six on five. Kind of ironic that they scored a goal, they have six guys out there. But is that quote true that he said that and what did you feel about the officiating through that game?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

I. I don't. I'm not a big blame the referees guy ever.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Me neither.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

But I consider it like human error, you know, like if some games, yeah, they make some bad calls, but that's like human error and that's part of the game. I thought the camping call when he kind of remember David or McKinnon.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Like that was not the best call. But I don't know. Like, I don't.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Same as the Goudest one. Same as the good.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, I thought it was pretty even overall. Like, I don't think the referee, the officiating favored one side. It was two NHL guys. I, I think that's just a tough, tough excuse to make afterwards. I, I would never, I shouldn't say never, but I've never really been a blame. Blame the officials kind of guy.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I was just shocked to hear it from their. Once again, like, this might have been a. A non thing.

[Biz Nasty]

No, no, that was legit.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It was legit. Yeah. Well, there you go.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

And buddy, you got the biggest break of the game. So like, I think now, yes, he's probably regretting that comment by now.

[Biz Nasty]

I think on the US Side, Quinn Hughes is, is just. He looks like the best player. You know, McDavid's been incredible. He's right up there. He's playing like yesterday. He played like 26 minutes, which is seven, eight more minutes more than the next guy. Same thing with Makar, with Canada. So is that something that like, listen, we got to figure out when Ronton is on the ice. We have Kale out there or like aho. How are they going to figure out what they do against Finland in The semis?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, McCarro play all the, the important minutes and they. You know what? They trust tapes just as much. He went out second in overtime. I don't know if he's.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah, we noticed that. Yeah.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

So those two guys, they, they trust them. You know, the ice time was interesting because then Harley was third and then it really dropped off after that.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I think they made Harley third after he put it in the guy's shin pads. I think that was the nature's breakaway. What the was he doing there?

[Biz Nasty]

No, that was tapes, wasn't it?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

That was hardly. But third. Third is pretty good on that team.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

You think he's playing the third best minutes on the team. Heart Thomas. Harley.

[Ryan Whitney]

Another.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Oh, you think I was just like, maybe I shouldn't have chirped him. I'm sorry.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, he actually was struggling this year in Dallas and he's been good.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, he's. I think he's been really good. Just calm and steady, and that's kind of what they need. They just need calm and stable. Quinn, like, I watch Quinn and he's.

[Biz Nasty]

This is crazy. Juice. This is crazy.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

It takes long shifts though, right? So, like his ice time at 26 minutes, I don't know if that's necessarily the plan for the D coach, but he just takes you. So he goes out with McAvoy a lot, and then a lot of times they'll just put Rinsky out next and he'll just take a two shifter, like in overtime. But I mean, like, you can't. You can't argue it when he, like, scores the game winner and he's, you know, he. He is. He brings a different element because I think the US Decor is a little bit more like direct first pass and he'll hold onto it, spin back, cut back, maintain possession, and then he'll, you know, throw a bomb up the middle on a guy's stick. So I bet you the forwards love having him out there every 26 minutes.

[Paul Bissonnette]

If you, if you're a Team Canada coach and you meet them, how do you plan to play against them?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Run them. You got to run them. Run on, like, give them the chug dry saddle treatment. There's. Just follow him around and like, give no geese and make a. Make ghost noises or whatever, I don't

[Paul Bissonnette]

know, go at him.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

You got to go. Adam, you know, he'll. He, he is a small guy, so if you, if you look like you're going to finish your check on every time, he will have to move the puck quicker than he wants to.

[Ian Hamilton]

Have you ever seen a guy, especially at the stage that they're at right now with all superstars on the team, just wave off the coach and say, no, no, no, I'm staying.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, I know you don't. You don't see it too often, but again, you know, the celebrity talk, hey, you gotta. You gotta be your biggest fan. You believe in your. So you gotta believe in yourself and in this game. Like when everyone's trying to cut you down and doubt you and you. You gotta be your biggest fan and believe in yourself. And the best players have that.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, it's been an incredible tournament. Juice. And. And you got your cork. Screw you.

[Paul Bissonnette]

He's got some juice behind him.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. Exactly.

[Paul Bissonnette]

What do you got there behind you?

[Biz Nasty]

How nice is the wine over there without the hangovers? Just a little better for you.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

So this is, like, years ago, went to Tusk. I shouldn't even be doing this. But the bam. This is our favorite, our favorite vineyard. So they sell these mini bottles in the grocery store. So I just got a bunch of mini bottles. And, you know, I'm a teen guy. We come back after the show, maybe we'll have, like, a drink or two and wind down and talk about, you know, how many men were on the ice for all the goals and all

[Paul Bissonnette]

that, but did you rip a dart with Elliot?

[TJ Oshie]

No, I didn't.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

I wasn't even around. So my wife came in yesterday. So Ellie and I are separated for the day. We've been attached, attached by the hip, but we had almost a full day apart from each other, so. Yeah.

[Ian Hamilton]

So your wife's in town. You still had time for us. You're the best.

[Biz Nasty]

Is your dad still there? He head home?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

No, dad. Dad left. Dad had home. Yeah, he left. He went home. Wife came in. She's coming to the game tomorrow. So we got two, Two big ones tomorrow. Sorry, it wasn't really comedy hour, this one. It's more like hockey. Hockey talk.

[TJ Oshie]

Right?

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I just want to warn you, we, we actually interviewed the O Dog today. Jeff o'. Neill.

[TJ Oshie]

I saw it.

[Biz Nasty]

He is. He's a little jealous. Did he say he sent out a tweet or he wants to send out a tweet?

[Paul Bissonnette]

No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you the information. He said, you know, you could sit next to my, my panel guy, but his patented handshake. If he sees you give Duffy a

[Biz Nasty]

handshake, you got to do it.

[Paul Bissonnette]

You're done, buddy.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Is that the old pinky tickler? The Pinky tickle?

[Ian Hamilton]

He said he's flying to the studio and fighting you.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It's the Pineapple Tickle.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

O Dog's brother is, is a, an officer at the airport right outside the customs. So every time I go through customs on the weekend, the Odogs brothers right there patrolling.

[TJ Oshie]

Nice.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

No way. I, I, I wish Odog was here. Like, he's, I've never worked with him. I've, I've talked and met him a bunch of times.

[TJ Oshie]

He's.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

He's a classic.

[Paul Bissonnette]

He's a beauty.

[Ian Hamilton]

He was great.

[TJ Oshie]

He was great.

[Biz Nasty]

So are you, buddy. It's, it's, it's. We're really thankful you're coming on with us. It's fun to catch up and and it's been great hockey. I mean, to get three overtime games in those quarterfinals makes it a little more fun for you to. To be that into the games and. And not have any blowouts there besides the Slovakia game.

[Paul Bissonnette]

So hopefully for some more one on the way out.

[Biz Nasty]

Let's go.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Your. Your biggest concern about Finland.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

My biggest concern about Finland. I haven't really seen Ranton dominate a game yet. And this.

[Ryan Whitney]

That.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

That'd be. That would scare me. Like, if Ranting in, playing against Nate, playing against Makara, playing against Taves, like you saw, like, in playoffs when he played against his old team, he put it up a few notches, didn't he?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

And I'm wondering, is this the game where he just puts the team on his back? I don't know. That's the biggest scare for me.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Ladies and gentlemen, Kevin bx. A couple clicks, boys. Legend.

[Ian Hamilton]

Hey, it's Whit's birthday, if you want to say happy birthday.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Happy birthday.

[Paul Bissonnette]

You're younger than me.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

What are older?

[Biz Nasty]

43. No, really, I'm 43.

[Ian Hamilton]

Damn, dude, you don't have to do them like that.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

No, I thought he was younger. I thought he was, like, 39.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay, thank you, buddy.

[Ian Hamilton]

Thank you.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I appreciate it.

[TJ Oshie]

Retired.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Because he had a really bad foot or something.

[Biz Nasty]

I had really bad feet. And I. And I. And I also was. Was very slow at that point. Exactly. Exactly, buddy. Still. I'm still trying to get these warts off. It's my birthday, man. Be nice. All right, Juice. See you, buddy.

[Ian Hamilton]

Thanks, Juice.

[Biz Nasty]

Thank you so much. Thank you so much to Juice. Awesome. And. And with that, we have another beauty. A guy who has a lot to say, I believe. And. And maybe we can really square away the. The possible bet between TJ Oshi and Paul Bissonnet. So here he is, Mr. Michelob. Ultra TJ Oshi. What's up, bud?

[TJ Oshie]

What's up, boys? How are we doing? You guys are lounging, looking, looking.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, we're lounging.

[Paul Bissonnette]

No, this is actually a psychiatry couch. They were just listening to me vent after that tough loss we just sustained.

[TJ Oshie]

That was a. That was a big one for. For the U.S. yeah. And you got. You got a pillow over the lap there.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, he was really. He was.

[Ryan Whitney]

He.

[Ian Hamilton]

I have a. He was a chubby watching the. Watching the US Game. You know, you win. You win gold. And, you know,

[TJ Oshie]

I got the camera facing up here.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah, he's got the angry inch out, so.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, what a. What an exciting game, buddy. You've been a part of these crazy nail biter in the Olympics. But this three on three, dude, is it not just panic or what?

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, I, I, I can't take it. I don't know how you guys are, but, like, as when I'm watching, like, I, I get, like, butterflies in my stomach. I never got that feeling on the ice ever. Not even, like, Stanley cup, nothing. But like, when I'm watching like, this three on three, it's like one toe pick or one, like, wide shot. You're just like, the game could be over. I, I guess. I don't know. It's, it's definitely entertaining. I wish it was five on five for, like, a gold medal, personally.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[TJ Oshie]

Feels a little more team stuff. I know I'm a shootout guy, and I love the shootout, but I think gold medal maybe should end in five on five. But, man, what a game. What a, what a big game for the women. I mean, sorry, biz, but like, like, it's great. You guys always get the best of us, I feel like. Or more times than not, so we got to enjoy this.

[Ian Hamilton]

It kind of seems like USA Women's hockey is taking that step where Canada was, right? Like, we got, we had the younger team going in. You show their dominance early in the tournament against Canada, and then you're able to, you know, squeeze out a, a crazy game in overtime. Like, do you see that shift? Or have you talked to anyone, like, you know, AJ Mollusco or anyone? Do you. Have they seen something like that as well?

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, I think they, they feel it. And I mean, the girls played a four game, like, four games against each other before the Olympics, right? US Won all four and then two in this tournament. So, like, it feels like that shift is happening. And you see these, these young girls, like Abby Murphy, like, the, what she's doing out there.

[Biz Nasty]

Who else was?

[TJ Oshie]

I, like, they're, they just, it looks like it's just like a different level that the Team USA has got. I think you definitely got to throw a lot of respect to the women that came before him and, like, how much women's hockey has grown in the U.S. but I mean, you love to see it. And honestly, I almost feel obviously we're not at, like, the medal round or anything, but, like, the men, too. Like, I feel like hockey's grown so much in the, in the States, and it's, it's great to see because it doesn't happen overnight, right? This is years and years of development and, and more programs on each side and, and more competition. And obviously, you're always chasing the Canadians, but it Looks like the women have gotten there and caught them and got, Got the job done.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Oh, I was gonna. You mentioned the women who came before him. I mean, you talk about, you know, one who, who, who just passed. She just became the highest scorer in women's u. S. Hockey, Olympic history. Hillary Knight, captain of this team. She ends up getting engaged, I believe, a day or two before the gold medal game. Wild move, move, and then, you know, the offense is dry. They can't get anything going. They get that TV or the, the timeout, and then they snap one back and she tips it in front. Like. Have you ever spent any time with her? What a moment in order to bring your team back from the dead.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, no, a little bit. Just through, like, Team USA stuff. I remember watching her live in Sochi, and I was like, holy cow. It was. I don't know. I guess I, I just didn't, you know, so caught up in, like, my own game and what I was doing. But she was kind of the first girl I saw that felt like she had, like, you know, like the, the toe curve with, like, the tape on the toe and, like, just had, like, some swagger and some style and so happy for her, you know, who know. I don't know if she's going to go at it again. Obviously, she's been there plenty and getting older, but, I mean, what a week for them.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. Two rings.

[TJ Oshie]

Look at that. Takes balls. I, I engage. I, I got engaged with my wife right before we went to Sochi because, you know, I, I don't know. I was, I was leaving. She was pregnant. We were. I, I wanted to do it for a long time, and so that was kind of like, I cast, like, I kind of did the same thing. I don't know if I do it right before the gold medal game, but

[Paul Bissonnette]

you don't got that sauce.

[Biz Nasty]

So if you want to be, if you want to do something memorable in the Olympics for Team usa, just get engaged, like, right before, right before the game. But back to the men. So I, I'm, I'm watching how this tournament goes along, and I'm kind of seeing people really dogging the US Team a little bit after the game against Germany, which, I mean, maybe they didn't look at their best, but in terms of, like, this tournament check proved it against the United States. It's just not that easy. Right? Like, you're not always going to have your A game. These teams are playing with so much pride for their own country that it's never going to be that easy. And Then we find out, oh, my God. Because Sweden somehow finishes third, we end up getting them in the quarterfinals. So, like, definitely a little more nerve wracking. And in terms of, like, who everyone else is playing, like, definitely a tougher matchup. It's probably the last team that was in the quarters you'd want to, you'd want to play if you're finishing second in the entire tournament after the round robin. But I, I thought that they were great, man. I really did. I think that their D is something else. And what's been interesting is seeing how much Quinn Hughes is playing.

[TJ Oshie]

Right.

[Biz Nasty]

So they've made it pretty clear that Quinn Hughes is the number one. Then they have McAvoy, Slavin, Warrensky, and who's the one I'm forgetting that's playing? And yeah, so Sanderson and Hannifin are playing less. I think Sanderson was about 10 minutes, Hannifin was about 5. So it seems like they've, they've got their guys now. But have you noticed the same thing in terms of how well they've gelled together and how hard they are to just, you know, basically score on?

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah. I'll come at this from a, A couple different angles. One, I, it seems to me, and I think the four nations had a lot to do with it, that this American team is like super, super tight and like close and love each other. And. I don't know, something about like, even just the reaction. Everyone loves, like an overtime win, right. But, like, just the way they were celebrating with each other. I, I don't know it. And you see, like, the polls, like, Jeremy Swaven sent me a picture of the boys playing cards in the room. Like, it just seems like a tight group. Quinn Hughes, I've gotten to cover a couple of his games for the Wild, dude. Like, it's, I mean, it's, it's unbelievable. And I, I talked to, I talked to Hines before one of the games. Interviewing I was like, what's it like? What's it been like? I think it was like a month after he got there. And I was worried about this for this team, honestly, going into it, because you have to change your game because you're not used to one player holding the puck for that long.

[Biz Nasty]

Like, it's, he always has it.

[TJ Oshie]

He almost said the Wild had to, like, readjust instead of like always being in like a support position. You almost have to get in scoring positions and just like, he's fine. Like, he'll, he'll. Don't worry about him. Like, when he has the puck, like he's not gonna make a bad decision. No one can catch him. And so people had to learn how to play with him. And I was worried. I. I assumed he'd be playing, you know, 24. I didn't think it was gonna be like 27, 28 minutes, but I was worried that maybe it was going to take too long because it took the Wild a little bit to adjust to having someone have the puck that long. But he, I mean, he's a special player. I don't, I don't have the balls to tell a coach like, no, no, no, I'm good. I know I've never seen that.

[Biz Nasty]

Maybe, maybe I wouldn't do that to

[Ian Hamilton]

my dad if he was coaching

[TJ Oshie]

Larry. God. But honestly, the story to me and something I think you'd love to see in this tournament. Not to drag on too long, but I think I thought Hellebuck was phenomenal in that game. I think he was their best player. And that was one of the question marks coming in, right? He wasn't have the great start to the year. You got two other great goaltenders. Swayman was so hot coming in. I love to see that because I think the goaltenders in these single elimination tournaments are the most important player.

[Paul Bissonnette]

We actually asked Kevin Bxa, I think it was Whit who said who. Who has to step up for the US in order to get this thing done. And you know, we were expecting the Jack I call, maybe Auston Matthews. And he said one guy he's looking to see bring it is Dylan Larkin. And then you see him with that big goal in that game. You saw what he did at Four Nations. And I think that the world, especially like the American hockey fans are starting to see like what this guy can provide, not only offensively but the way that he plays his 200 foot game. So I don't know if what you have taken from playing against them all those years and just like what you make of him even now and how he's kind of continued to progress his game over the years.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, I was, I was fortunate enough I covered two of their, their games before the Olympics. And I got to talk to him, I interview him during the game, talk to him after the game. It was in Minnesota, so they were out there, Kaner was down there, Madonna was down there before he broke the record. And I got to watch him a little more. Like when you're playing against a guy, like, I just, I never really feared anyone so like, if, if anything I tried in my mind make them think that they suck. So I didn't really think about it when I was playing. But then you watch them and, and watching in this tournament, like, some guys have a way of almost like on the score sheet for sure, coming up in big moments, but almost like inspiring, like being like a little bit of like a motivational, like, inspirational player with the way they play the game. I think he's that guy and he seems to be able to rise up in big moments. In talking with him after the game in Minnesota, you could just see like, I don't know, like a sense of like, pride and like hunger and like, almost like adrenaline that he was on the team and just wanted to go. Like one of those guys that just wants to make a difference, wants to make an impact on the game. And I, I, I think people should start pay paying more attention to him because he is a guy like you saw last game. Get him on the board early and like the, just like the Pat, like the celebration too after, like, you see how much he cares.

[Biz Nasty]

And his celebration was great on the Quinn Hughes winner and I thought it was really cool. Jackie Redmond did a great job actually talking to Quinn Hughes after and kind of asked about Dylan Larkin and, and Quinn made it pretty clear, like, this guy's been an important part of my life. Like, almost like a little bit of an older brother type situation where he said he met him. She did a good job of asking. He's like, oh, I actually met him at a frat party. I was 17, he was 20. And he's always kind of just like taught me little things. And one of them was like, how to treat people. I guess Dylan Larkin is just all about treating others the way you want to be treated and like a leader, like you're saying. And I, I think like, his offense is great, probably doesn't get enough credit, but the defensive, like, awareness for him, and you even see that stick check in overtime and he ended up creating a three on two or two on one. And I think Jack Hughes looked them off. Yeah, he actually did look him off. But then the celebration when Quinn scores and Hughes go, I mean, Larkin goes insane, sprints across the ice. And you're right about this team. There's something vibing now. It seemed the same way right after the fights last year in the four nations. And Canada has a complete wagon. But I was, I was amazed at how well Sweden played because they did not look good. Right. And this coach, I don't know if he's still going to be their national team coach. The guy Scratches brat. One game and unfortunately we haven't even brought up Victor Headman. He pulls his groin and warm ups.

[TJ Oshie]

Right.

[Biz Nasty]

So that's. That was a huge loss. He had to sit on the bench the entire time. But Sweden played well.

[TJ Oshie]

Man.

[Biz Nasty]

That was a. For you watching, I felt like there was no time and space similar to the big games last year in four nations and. And they brought it. I mean, they were right there. They could have won that game easily.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And before you break it down, what do you make of that coaching situation and like, have you heard more about it? Kind of, considering you've been talking amongst the people at the tournament.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, I've been talking with Ace a bunch about it. He's the one that brought it to my attention that Brad wasn't playing. And like in my mind like that. It just didn't make like that wasn't like an option.

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah, because you have a. You have a brain.

[TJ Oshie]

In my mind. In my mind it was like I just must not notice him out there. Right. Maybe he's just not playing well. But I played against this guy and like he creates so much. Like I. I haven't really paid attention enough to like, speak to like the defensive side of the game, but when he has the puck, he just, he. He creates so much with like his quickness. It's. It's honestly like he's probably one of the more like skilled, quick, like, like players in the league, I think that can like build something out of nothing. And you saw in that game. And by the way, I. I would say. I would say if I had to lean one way on like the regulation, like, I would maybe say that Sweden had like, like 51% or like over 50% of like the momentum of the game. Which is why I think Hellebuck was the. In my opinion was a player of the game. But I just don't know how you don't play Brat. I just. Not in this, not in this game. Not in, not in elimination games where you need a goal, you need offense, especially against a team like usa.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, also, how about Raymond? I thought Lucas Raymond was. I mean, talk about Red Wings fans watching that game, salivating. He was incredible the whole game, dude.

[TJ Oshie]

We had so like we're. We're going on right after. After the game. We're doing post game. So we have to. When they tied, when the game's tied and it's going to overtime, we have to prepare for both sides. And all we had was a package on Raymond and we had already. We had already done the Same package the day before, saying, like, these pat. These like, passes where he holds it on his forehand, looks off a goal. He holds them and then throws it backside. You see him do that to the Brinkhead all the time. That's why the briquette scores so many goals on power play. But he's. He's so good. Not like the prettiest guy like, player. Like, he. Not super flashy, but he just always makes like a really solid play. Almost seems like a theme with the Swedes. But, man, it was just such a good game.

[Biz Nasty]

A lot of. Maybe it was Swedish fans, some Canadian fans. Like, I did not think that was a slew foot on. On Rasmus Dalim by Brady Kachak. It just like seemed like kind of like he slipped a little bit tangled up. But it wasn't a slew foot, certainly. And I, I think it was a correct non call.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, no, I, I don't think that was. I think if anything, it was just a bad. Like, the result was bad that he went back and hit his head. Yeah, and I think that. I think the refs have, you know, the refs are the refs both ways. I think there's. You can. You can pick apart so many things about, like, what's going on. When I was in the waiting room there, hearing you guys talk about the Canada game, like that Michael Kempney call, like, never in a million years should that be a call. But also they should have never been up because there's six guys on the ice. So you can do it whatever you want. But, like, they're. They're not. They're going to miss calls both ways.

[Paul Bissonnette]

So I almost feel like, well, maybe not for Canada. The. The competition might get a little bit easier for the United States going against Slovakia. These guys might disagree and say, hey, keep your eye on the prize. What would your strategy from seeing what you've seen from Slovakia be? If you deny United States, like, what would you. What adjustments would you make? Where would you try to expose them? What do you think that Slovakia brings? Maybe that like, Sweden didn't. And how do you think they beat them?

[TJ Oshie]

So what I think is there's. In playoff hockey, in my opinion, is if you have a belief in, like, the guy next to you. That sounds super cliche, but, like, if you have, like, a belief and you feel like you love the guy next to you and you're doing something special together, you're able to push yourself further than you would be able to push your own agenda, like what you want yourself. And so this Slovakia team, I think from the get go, like, they surprised everyone and they have this momentum. It's not like they didn't win. That was the only game that didn't go into overtime. Like, they smoked them. Right? And so I would like, if I'm, if I'm Team usa, I'm like, I'm like, boys, we have to have our, our best a game here. These guys are finding a way to get the job done. And then like, also like against, against Sweden for Team usa and against Czechia for Canadiens, like, yeah, the. On the rosters, like, these team, they're like, they're giants, but it's still just, it's still a hockey game. You still have to play. Canada look human. US look human. And so I just, I don't think there's a, an easy matchup per se on paper, for sure. Like, Finland's got some big dogs and they could be a lot better with, with Barki. But I think these are going to be phenomenal games. It's been a great, like, the quarterfinals, you know, the pool play, sometimes that gets out of hand. And like, some of the games aren't even, like, really that exciting because there's so many goals going on. But this has been an exciting couple days.

[Ian Hamilton]

Is, is there anyone on us that you would, you know, either like to see up their game a little bit or, you know, maybe a guy even play a little more. Obviously they can't control it, but, like, even a guy like Tage Thompson, I feel like he hasn't gotten a ton of minutes, but, like, how big and how fast he is, I think in these next two games, you're going to need him to play more minutes and, and be more effective.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, I think, I think we saw almost like a different level of play in US's second game out of Jack Hughes. Like, almost like he got like, this, his game. I don't know if it was the success from game one that turned over, but he's going around like, beavertailing like he wants the puck. And I think that's a guy that you can really ride.

[Paul Bissonnette]

He.

[TJ Oshie]

I. I don't know. Like, when, when a guy like that gets hungry, he can make like, such a big difference. Taj Thompson, I think he's one of the harder players I've ever played against. I know he's, like, so big. I know he's got a short stick, but, like, he just can't get the puck from them. And so you kind of want some, like, guys like that like you, if you're if you're gonna go on being a depth team, you gotta use that depth and let these guys get in the game. I'd love to see a little bit more North American style out of the, out of the Americans tomorrow. I feel like some of these games have gotten away in the third period, like second half of the game, they just had the puck the whole time, and then you think you're, that's what it's going to be like in the next game, which I was. Why I think their starts haven't been very good, so. But I, I, I, I think the, the Dev, like the Larkins, Brock Nelson, Tage Thompson, like these guys can score big goals and you, yeah, you know, you need Austin Matthews, probably and Jack Eichel to be your best players, but I think these other guys, this depth, like, that's what you got to use to your advantage.

[Biz Nasty]

That's what was so nice about McAvoy in the game against Sweden. He ran over Eric Sinek behind the net and then he crushed. Who do you crush in front of the bench? That might have been Darlene, too. I don't remember exactly, but he's, I think you get him out there with Quinn Hughes against Slavkovsky, right? And that guy is, is, he's Slovakia's best player. He has a ton of confidence right now, and it's like, if you could shut him down, I'm pretty confident that they leave with the W. So just put McAvoy on him. And then most of the time when McAvoy and Hughes are on the ice, Hughes has the puck the whole time anyways. So that could be a matchup. Maybe we're looking at, maybe Larkin's line is matched up against Slavkovsky as well. But like you said, it's a, it's a, it's a one game elimination. It's like, I just don't, I can't look by it and say, oh, they're gonna, they're gonna beat Slovakia easy. It's this, this tournament is so weird. And for us to see three of the four quarterfinals games go to ot, it just kind of shows how not the teams aren't even. But once the game starts, it's like, like you said, it's a hockey game and anything can happen.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, that's the hard thing about, like the elimination games, like the single game elimination, because in the NHL you have, like, at the start of the series, you're telling your guys, like, hey, we have, no matter how long this series goes, we're gonna, these first two Three games. We're gonna push their D out of it. We're gonna forecheck and we're gonna hit anything that moves. That's why the first round is like the most unbelievable hockey you can watch and, but that's what it is. You're gonna push them out as the series goes on this game, I mean, you could outshoot, you know, the US could outshoot them tomorrow, you know, 40 to 10 and they could have, you know, a couple good bounces and two tipping goals and it could be four, three, Slovakia. So it's, it's, that's the importance on like every detail every shift. I talk about this a lot, how every play matters. Every. You saw like in the, in the girls game there, Layla Edwards tired on the back check on Canada's first goal. In the two on one, she stops moving her feet for literally just one stride. And you don't know if it would have made a difference. But if you just make that one more stride, no matter how hard bad your legs are burning, like, you just don't know, you don't know what play is going to decide the game. And these are, that's why the single elimination or fun game is a play. And like you're on the edge of your seat the whole time.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Not to say you don't normally, but in those types of situations, are you making sure you're never getting caught out there? Because you're playing against the world, world class players. So like you tend to maybe lean towards getting a, a 30 to 35 second shift as opposed to like a 45, 50. Because if you're one of those guys that gets hemmed in against these, these types of players and they all of a sudden throw McDavid and you know, Celebrini and, and McKinnon against you, they're going to be swarming and you cannot be enough out there for three minutes.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, yeah.

[TJ Oshie]

Like in the NHL, like if you're out there against other team's fourth line and you're like a little tired, like, you know what, I'll just, I can't, I'll go an extra 20, 30 seconds, it'll be fine. But here, like everyone's, every line's a first line, like every guy's a first liner. So you, you just, you can't do it. You, I don't want to say you play safe, but you, you make sure every shift that you're making an impact, not negatively. And so if you put yourself in a position like staying out there a little longer or you Know, waiting on the offensive side of a play because you think that something might get turned over. Like, those two shifts that you could have had. Two. Two strides you could have had. Right. There could be the difference of you getting back and breaking up a two on one or not and losing the game. So that's what I mean on, like, the importance of every play. Like, you're like, after these games and after playoffs, like, yeah, your legs are tired because you push yourself to the absolute max, but your mind is tired, too, because you're. You have to be in it at all times.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah. It's like there's a. There's a very fine line between cheating and anticipation. Eh?

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah. Big time.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, before we let you go, have you enjoyed it? I mean, long days, right? But you've done awesome. The coverage has been great. It's got to be a little bit more exciting, like you said. No. Now that the blowouts are done, it's on to the. To the big games.

[Ian Hamilton]

And your suit. Game's been awesome.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Unbelievable. You look incredible.

[Ian Hamilton]

So handsome.

[TJ Oshie]

You know. You know what's awesome is, like, I do not. I do not care about fashion. I do not dress myself. My wife, I have to bring her to. Like, this.

[Paul Bissonnette]

She does it all.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, I know she does. Do it.

[Ian Hamilton]

Wipe your own ass.

[TJ Oshie]

But then, if I have. And then the. But here, like, I just brought all my. I brought, like, six suits, eight shirts, ties, and then they just pick it all out for me. So it's awesome to just wait in there. I just throw it on. Okay. It's unbelievable.

[Biz Nasty]

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[Paul Bissonnette]

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[Ryan Whitney]

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[Paul Bissonnette]

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[Biz Nasty]

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[Paul Bissonnette]

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[Biz Nasty]

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[Paul Bissonnette]

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[Ian Hamilton]

Seems fair.

[TJ Oshie]

That seems real fair. Biz. You're got more money than I do now.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Oh, yeah.

[TJ Oshie]

Some of that Netflix money.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Come on, let's. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Don't tell the fans that. They'll send anthrax to my house again and complain about the sandbagger we did. How about we go. How about we go five hundo now?

[Ian Hamilton]

Come on, we're adults. We're adults.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Okay. Sorry.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

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[Paul Bissonnette]

Thousand bucks.

[TJ Oshie]

I can do a thousand bucks. That's fine.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Okay.

[TJ Oshie]

Thousand. Thousand bucks. And then let's. Let's get like a little. Like a little social media jersey. Okay?

[Biz Nasty]

Okay. Oh, busy in a USA Jersey would be awesome.

[Paul Bissonnette]

All right.

[TJ Oshie]

Jersey. And it has to be on your.

[Ian Hamilton]

The.

[TJ Oshie]

The head of your handle. Your profile picture for how long?

[Ian Hamilton]

Till the next Olympics. Yeah,

[Paul Bissonnette]

let's do this. Let's do this. How about this? We'll do that. Exactly what you just said. So you'd have to wear a Canada jersey. I would wear a U. S. Jersey. You wouldn't. You would do that, right?

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[TJ Oshie]

It's painful.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And we'll do the thousand bucks, and then it goes to a charity of. Of the other guy's choice, which is nice.

[TJ Oshie]

Winner's choice, 100.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And you have to do the video with the other person's booze in it. So you would have to have Pink Whitney in it. Or I'd have to have a Michelob. A non alk Michelob Ultra in my case.

[TJ Oshie]

Let's go. I'm in.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Go, buddy. You're going down, buddy.

[Ian Hamilton]

Hey, Mind you. Mind you. His. His charity will be to his pocket.

[Biz Nasty]

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[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

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[Paul Bissonnette]

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[Biz Nasty]

And it'll be a thousand Canadian.

[TJ Oshie]

No.

[Paul Bissonnette]

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[TJ Oshie]

Seventeen.

[Ian Hamilton]

No.

[TJ Oshie]

No Canadian. No Canadian money here. Funny money.

[Biz Nasty]

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[Biz Nasty]

Thank you very much. TJ Oshi filling us in on all things Team USA in the tournament so far. Now a couple more special guests. The good old Canadian boys, friends of Seth Jarvis in Milan, live. We got them, boys. We finally got two of. Of the Maniacs. The true Winnipeg Bombers. We got Jarvis's buddies, Brian and Lucas. What's going on, fellas? Live from Milan, Italy. How you guys doing?

[Paul Bissonnette]

Six.

[Ian Hamilton]

They're in a prison.

[TJ Oshie]

They're not good. We're doing good.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay, so I think we kind of need the breakdown. The news breaks that that Seth gets added to the team, and then you guys, you have your whole trip kind of ruined. And of course, you didn't get insurance on your flights. And we're thinking, how are these guys going to get over? So who came through in the clutch for you guys to get you to Italy?

[TJ Oshie]

Air Canada. Honestly, I mean, hey, first text was to biz, seeing what biz could do for us, but that was nothing. So.

[Ian Hamilton]

Wow. I don't know.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Other than talk about it on the biggest hockey podcast.

[Ian Hamilton]

I gotta have his back here. I think if he doesn't mention that you guys are sitting in Raleigh by yourselves pulling on your weens.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, we should be. We should be plugging biz here every time we plug Air Canada. But no. Helped us out. They reached out to us and they've. They've hooked us up with everything. They've. They've set us up in the best way possible, and we're really only here because of them.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Wow.

[Biz Nasty]

Hotel, too?

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, hotel. And then they even helped us out get tickets to all the games here.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Oh, my good. So they went really above and beyond. Now, were your original flights booked to Carolina, like through Air Canada?

[TJ Oshie]

No, it was even. It was, I think, United Airlines.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, Air Canada can Use any good publicity, because usually they're just getting smoked. But for. For them to do that for you guys, that's pretty special. And then, like. Like, when you came over right away, were you able to see Jarvis or were you kind of on your own? Right. I mean, I imagine he's super busy with the team and stuff.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, by the time I mean, that we flew in, it was. It was pretty much drop our stuff at the hotel, and we were right to that France game. So we caught him. We caught him after the France game. Got to catch up with him a bit there. And then they had the day off after the France game, so we got to hang out with them there, go for dinner and do whatnot.

[Ian Hamilton]

How cool is it? Just, I mean, obviously you guys are super proud of your buddy Seth and just playing in the NHL, living his dream, and, you know, I got to see Whit playing the NHL and then playing the Olympics. And that's just a different, you know, sense of pride that you have for somebody representing their country. Like, how proud of him are you guys just have known him your whole life? Pretty much.

[TJ Oshie]

Oh, dude. It's unreal. It's like you never really realize how crazy it actually is until you get here. Then you see him step on the ice, and it's. It's cheesy, but it's hard not to get emotional, especially like at the end of the game there when they win, and he's, like, pointing in the crowd, smiling with the. With the other fellas, like, laughing at us being idiots in the crowd. But it's like, you grow up playing mini sticks, like, fucking slinging the little ball. And now you're here watching him play with the McDavid's, with the Crosbys, with, like, the Celebrinis now. It's absolutely insane.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Well, before we dive into the game against Czechia, like, what are the. Like, what are the festivities like? What's it been like mingling with the other athletes and really just taking in probably what I would imagine, your first ever Olympic experience.

[TJ Oshie]

The first rule we get is us, don't speak to any athletes in this unless you're spoken to. Because I guess they learn from the four nations. Once you let us loose with a few drinks,

[Biz Nasty]

they're like, guys, please don't puke in this house. Please, please.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, Just has to warn them all that we're coming.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I also, I also heard some rumblings that you guys were reselling a bunch of the condoms they were giving out for free to pay for other beer money around Town. Is there any truth to you guys stealing the robbers and shipping them back to Western on Western and London, Ontario, the university?

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, that's just our one buddy. He's just stashing them all.

[Paul Bissonnette]

So how many single guys out of the. Out of the six?

[TJ Oshie]

There's only two.

[Ian Hamilton]

But it's a day now, that's for sure.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Oh, just a bunch of weapons around town. And what are the, like, the other, like, bars and restaurants, like in, like the. The other areas in town? Because I'm hearing from BXA that you guys are about an hour and a half to maybe two hours removed from all the other sports. So it's kind of like you're almost in, like a hockey hub there.

[TJ Oshie]

There's one bar that apparently, like, got took over by Canadians. Blue Canal. Blue Canal, Yeah. We haven't been there yet, but it's like shoulder to shoulder. You're just. They're watching events. Everyone's just hammered and apparently it's unreal. But we haven't been able to get out there yet.

[Biz Nasty]

Now, have you guys been to every game? Are you going to the remaining games? Like, how have the ticket situation worked?

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, we've been. So we went to that Canada France game, then you went to the game yesterday, and then same thing. We're going to the game tomorrow and then hopefully all goes well and then we'll be at that. That game Sunday.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, this is unbelievable.

[Paul Bissonnette]

We gotta ask him about that game, boys. You guys must have been pretty nervous in the. In the last 10 minutes going on there.

[TJ Oshie]

We were sweating buckets. Tucker Tuckered, that's for sure.

[Ian Hamilton]

Are you guys superstitious? Are you gonna be doing the same thing you've been doing before every game? Drinking the same thing, eating the same thing, or it's just, you know what? We're here to have fun. Let the boys handle what they handle.

[TJ Oshie]

I mean, I don't know if it's all superstition, but then during the last game, one of our buddies brought this loony and we threw it around. We were rubbing this lucky loony. And then literally five minutes after we did that, they tied it up. So when it went to overtime, we're like, we gotta do it again. So, I mean, that's about as superstitious as we get. Other than that, it's just. Don't show up sober.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Who's. Who's been the biggest beauty on the team other than Jarvs? Like, who have you. Who have you guys buddy buddied with? I'm sure you met a few of them. At First Four Nations. But who's the guy who like, just like, oh, I love Jarvis's buddy. I want to go hang out with them rather than the team?

[TJ Oshie]

I think for us probably Haggle because we got to hang out with Haggle at Four Nations. Like we have to hang out with Hagel, his brother and his buddies. So it's been, it's been fun to see Hagel's brother and his buddies and, and get to get after it with them a bit.

[Biz Nasty]

So the, the question I have is all you guys, you know, I grew up playing hockey together. At any point, was Jarvis not the best player of all you seven guys? Did any of you guys ever have him, whether it was six years old or was he always kind of heads and shoulders above you?

[TJ Oshie]

Out of us? Absolutely no camp. It's like you put the best player on the line with the worst player, and I was the worst player and it was the best. I probably had about two goals and 70 assists just from flicking it out of his own to him.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And we, we heard rumblings that this past summer that you guys got. You guys got stuck helping him put up a fence in his parents backyard. And that's what he had to pay to them to basically like, for like boarding them.

[TJ Oshie]

It's. It's anything he's making us do, do whatever, and we just get dragged along for the ride.

[Ian Hamilton]

Do you guys think at one point, like, you guys are honestly kind of getting bigger than him? Like, at some point you're like, you're gonna be like, hey, Seth. Like, we're kind of sick of having you around. We were actually.

[TJ Oshie]

We went to like Duomo, I guess the downtown area in Milan the other day, and we all went as buddies and Seth came with, and there was people coming us to as a group. They were stopping us, asking us for pictures, telling us how good Seth played the other night. And Seth was literally standing right beside us.

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Was it.

[Ian Hamilton]

Was it taking the picture?

[Paul Bissonnette]

Was it you guys leading the. The old Canada after that win too? Were you guys sick? Was it you guys I saw singing in maybe the. The lobby of the rink?

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, I think we were right in the mix there. After a couple beers causing rockets.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Would you like. I listen. I know the Four nations win was huge. Would you put though that quarterfinal win way above that? And that feeling you guys had after

[TJ Oshie]

the game, I think like at walking out, we were saying to each other that, that like, honestly, the atmosphere, especially with like those European chants, it is nuts. And then just walking out of that game like that Tight. It was. It was crazy. So I think I would put that over four nations just in terms of, like, the first game here when we. Where we got to, like, experience kind of like, honestly, like, a soccer atmosphere. So it was. It was nuts.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Who's the. The most famous Canadian you've ran into where you were, like, blown away, like, speechless?

[TJ Oshie]

I mean, like, I don't know. Wayne Gretzky's been here. Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay.

[TJ Oshie]

Billy Jean King was there the other day. Like, the tennis player.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

That was pretty cool.

[Biz Nasty]

And I'm seeing here, you guys, actually, it's the good old Canadian boys on Instagram, over 40, 000 followers now. So I could see why. Why you are me. But my question is, do you guys have jobs? Like, what did you tell work? What did you tell work for this? Hey, we'll see in a couple weeks.

[Ian Hamilton]

They're Canadian. They don't care.

[TJ Oshie]

No, we're all in school for the most part. Like, okay, the rest of us are in school. So it actually worked out same as last year in Boston. Like, it's right over our reading week. So we. We didn't really miss much. Like, a couple of us wrote an exam the day before the left. We left. A couple of us read an exam right when we get back, but we don't really miss anything that important.

[Paul Bissonnette]

On the Canadian curler, I'm draw blank on the guy's name. I believe he's. This is his fourth Olympics.

[Biz Nasty]

The cheater.

[Paul Bissonnette]

There's a lot of controversy going online. Have you guys seen him buzzing around and is he having to do so with extra security?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Mark Kennedy.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Mark Kennedy. I mean, he's publicly. We got Dave Porno going after this guy. I think he's trying to get like, the, you know, the. The. The National Reserve on him or something like that.

[TJ Oshie]

I haven't. I haven't noticed him. We need. We were saying we need name tags here because there's. There's so many people here that you don't really know, know who's related to who. You know, if somebody even snuck in here sometimes. You don't even know who the Olympians are. So name tags would definitely be helpful.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, boys, thank you so much. I don't know if you guys have anything else.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Do you have a question for them or anything that you were wondering?

[Ryan Whitney]

No, I mean, is there anything.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Any crazy stories that have happened now

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

between you guys in Milan that you

[Paul Bissonnette]

can tell on the pod?

[Biz Nasty]

I mean, there has to be something.

[TJ Oshie]

We got scammed on our Uber from the airport to our airport.

[Paul Bissonnette]

No.

[Biz Nasty]

What Happened there.

[Ian Hamilton]

Canada.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah. Wait. We. We were walking out to our taxi, and some guy met us right. Right before he got outside, and he said, no, no, you know, you gotta. You gotta go upstairs. Taxis are upstairs. So of course, we. We go upstairs and I get out there and we go, fuck.

[Ryan Whitney]

This is.

[TJ Oshie]

This is departures. There's. There's no taxis up here, but there's some guy waiting upstairs for us. It looks about 18 years old. And next thing you know, these two nice cars roll up, and by the time we get in the car and where they're. They're ripping 170 down the highway. They show us the price, and it's like. Like €250 each for the each card. We're like, oh. And we realize it's the same guy that stopped us and told us to go upstairs.

[Paul Bissonnette]

We're like, oh, wow, he told you upstairs? And he ran up the other way and he had the hat on. Like, he's. Yeah. Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber.

[Ian Hamilton]

Fake mustache.

[Paul Bissonnette]

That is under.

[Ian Hamilton]

If Delta flew you over there, they would have a car service waiting for you.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Don't let them start, guys. Boy, we're so happy for you guys. And, like, you guys have been a fun little side story for us to follow. And, I mean, Canadians at home are loving it. So bring the boys luck. Snap around that looney next game, because there's. There's going to be no layups here from here on out. And how are you guys feeling about the Finland game?

[TJ Oshie]

We're confident. I mean, you know, whether Crosby plays or not, I think he's going to. He's going to play a massive role, even if it's just maybe he suits up and he's just on the bench, plays the power. But there are so many guys in that group that can step up, and they've. They've been in situations where this has happened before.

[Ian Hamilton]

Last question from me, you mentioned it was your reading week. What have you read

[TJ Oshie]

label about 100 times?

[Biz Nasty]

Okay, perfect. Okay. So that's the only beer in the rink, right?

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Crazy. You think it would be Peroni or something?

[TJ Oshie]

That's what we were saying. That's the one thing we wanted.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[TJ Oshie]

And the Corona Zero cans look the exact same as Coronas, and they don't tell you which one's which. So you grab the Drone Zeros and you'll walk out and you're getting rinsed. 16 bucks for no alcohol.

[Paul Bissonnette]

A mystery pop. That's bizarre.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, boys, like, honestly, I think we've got to know Seth a Little bit. Just such a good guy. Great for the game character, you know, charismatic. And obviously you guys are pretty special buddies to him. You know he wants you everywhere he is and for us to get to talk to you, it's been pretty cool. So thank you for everything and congrats on getting over there.

[TJ Oshie]

Thank you. Thanks for getting us showing us out on the pod there biz in the first place and getting that ball rolling. Fair Canada.

[Paul Bissonnette]

All right. Anything for you boys. Let's bring home a goal day.

[TJ Oshie]

Absolutely.

[Biz Nasty]

Thank you very much to the good old Canadian boys over 40, 000. They're making beauties. They're making their presence felt online. So good dudes. You could tell those two kids were so happy to be there and really good friends to be.

[Paul Bissonnette]

One thing they didn't mention, you know what university they're to going.

[Ian Hamilton]

Going to Western?

[Paul Bissonnette]

No. Jarvard.

[Ian Hamilton]

Nice.

[Biz Nasty]

So in the world of the NHL, I believe that we're kind of getting back into the swing of things. Guys are practicing again. A lot of people have been skating throughout but I think the teams are now together and Jeff Skinner no longer a member of the San Jose Sharks. And I guess the, the he was went through waivers, wasn't cleared and then kind of the purpose of the contract being being ended and I don't know, I don't know what it means. I mean he hadn't been playing a lot. Does. Is he able to sign with another team? Does he look to go play overseas? I, I, I don't really know but I mean the guy had a great run and incredible. We made, we made some jokes that like, you know, he hadn't made the playoffs forever and then Edmonton made it and he kind of scratched pretty quickly.

[TJ Oshie]

But fuck.

[Biz Nasty]

I remember when he came into the league, I think he was a rookie. Taylor Hall's rookie year just lit it up right away. And I saw some clips going around online. I, I knew he started like learning hockey through figure skating. I didn't know he competed. I There was some.

[Paul Bissonnette]

He beat some like some legend figure skater at a very young age and obviously as is as he got older he ended up taking the hockey route. But he's got some, he's got some hardware as far as him figure skating is concerned. And there was a crazy stat that came out about how many five on five goals he has if he never played another game. I think it might have been army who sent it to our, our group chat. G's looking it up right now. But hey listen, like, yeah, like we made those, those jokes about him finally playing in his first playoff game and then I think he got scratched the next one. I don't think if you're, you're putting together a list of dogs, playoff dogs, he's going to be at the top of it. But hey, man, he made a boatload of money. He was a great teammate. Guys always love having him around. Very, very kind to always like the, the media and the staff around the rink and really always had a smile on his face. So, you know, a pros pro and best of luck to him if that. If that's the case and it's the end, man, if I'm the Leafs, give him a league minimum deal. Bring them over, try to get something going.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

I saw some people mention the Kings

[Ryan Whitney]

after Kevin Fiala's injury at the Olympics.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Cheaper placement, you know, probably do a

[Ian Hamilton]

guy that knows the game and, and for like, I remember when he came into the league, he was spinning. He was doing the spin of Ramas and they were talking a lot about his, you know, figure skating background. But a guy that he was undersized but wasn't afraid to go to the dirty areas, played hard in front of the net. He was a pest out there. Unbelievable career. But for me it's kind of. It looks like San Jose is looking at this tournament and they see Macklin Celebrini and for me, outside looking in, it's almost like they're like, oh my God, we gotta build something quick around this guy. So maybe they're freeing up some money to try to get some, some players in there to make a run at the end of the season here. Who knows what Mike Greer is up to. But at the end of the day, great career. If that is the end of it for Skinner and he was a hell

[Biz Nasty]

of a. Jeff Skinner never plays again. He finishes his career with more even strength goals than Pat La Fontaine, Jeremy Roenick, Bill Garon, Daniel Alfredson, Pavel Bure, Alexi Kovalev, Joe Pavelski, Rick Talkett, John Leclaire, Ilya Kovalchuk, Patrick Eliash, Theo Fleury and Phil Kessel.

[Paul Bissonnette]

That was actually posted from Frank Saravelli, so that. I'm just kidding.

[Biz Nasty]

That's a.

[Paul Bissonnette]

That's an unbelievable crazy list.

[Ian Hamilton]

I would print that out, that tweet out and hang it in my bedroom.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I'd have it on a shirt and

[TJ Oshie]

I'd wear it everywhere.

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah, it's me.

[Biz Nasty]

Big news out of Edmonton, guys. This could be what we need.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Roll the clip of me a month or two ago.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, this could be what the Oilers Need. Paul Coffey is back and I don't really know what had happened.

[TJ Oshie]

Right.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm not in the room, not around the team. Don't know why he was not there to start this season. But the D, it had so much success. And if you remember, when he came over, he told all those guys right away, like, you gotta be making plays like this forward group, they can't be getting the puck off the glass. They cannot be dealing with that. A lot of these guys need the puck in stride through the neutral zone, tape the tape, and you know, they go back to back cup finals and then he's not there this year. It's been kind of a mess defensively. Well, he's back. I don't know who I. Maybe Daryl Cates, maybe. That's right from the ownership. Right. That could come. Come from up top. But I think Oilers fans are happy to hear it because they were a different team with their defenseman and their puck moving when he was behind, you know, behind the bench for the defenseman. So that's very exciting to see. And we'll see that maybe that turns it around for him. Biz.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah. I think that you guys have probably heard the same stuff, that sometimes there's some. A little bit of conflict as far as philosophy philosophies and how you want to coach guys and when you should, you know, push the right buttons or when you should ease off. And from the rumblings I heard sometimes, you know, Paul Coffey and Knoblog don't necessarily see eye to eye. And maybe, maybe that was part of the reason that he didn't come back this year. Maybe he was. Maybe Paul Coffey of accomplishing everything that he'd accomplished, including jumping behind the bench. Again, maybe he was a little tired and didn't really want to do anymore. I don't like, like I don't fully know. Cause I don't reach out to these guys and ask them this type of stuff. But I feel like some of that conflict was a reason that that pushed him away and why he wasn't back. While you see how the team's done so far this year and compared to how they've done with him behind the bench, I don't know whose call this was, but it's for sure the right one. And I. I personally like. I like knob block. Do I feel like sometimes it's a little bit monotone and it would be nice to see a little bit of fire in certain situations where maybe he needs to push the right buttons to get more out of his team. Hey, but I also have respect for the guys who are even keel. So I don't mean to sound hypocritical, but I think in a, you know, I think, listen, listen to this. In championship rooms, I've heard from some guys who have won cups, there can be some you matches going on. Those are healthy, those are good conversations to have. And then after that the cooler heads prevail. But I hope that he adds that fire and spice to that group because if in fact the Toronto Maple Leafs don't make playoffs, I will 100% be rooting for Connor McDavid to win his first Stanley Cup. And I also hope that it happens in a year that he also wins his first gold medal at the Olympics.

[Ian Hamilton]

I think it's a lot of it too. And I remember when I had Wayne as a coach and I don't know if Wayne had it in him to be that bad cop, you know what I mean? And he brought in John Muckler and I remember him, him telling, telling us how hard Mux was to play for. Like he was bag skating them. He was mean, like he was showing them video. He was tough on them. But those winners know that you need something like that.

[Biz Nasty]

So I think sometimes, yeah, the, the

[Ian Hamilton]

big, the big dogs want it. And I'm sure McDavid having, having a coffee back there, a guy that's done everything, I'm sure he's just as happy as the D on that group because he's affecting the entire team.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And it's hard too because when you're cough, you can't, can't be the guy to do that because now you're stepping on the coach's toes.

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

You're the assistant, right. You're going to handle the D. You're going to make sure our guys engines are going and, and we're making those plays and doing everything that we can to win. You can't really, you know, undercut the head coach, but let's hope they're able to, to figure things out as they have the past couple years and even so a little bit more in order to get themselves over that hump. But as it sits right now, they might not have to go against the, the big bad Florida Panthers. Yeah, they're seven points out. I'm hearing some. Are we allowed to talk about the other rumblings about how maybe, you know, Marshawn's not exactly the healthiest right now? There's, there's rumors that he might get shut down after the Olympics? Who knows what's going to happen with Barkov if that's the case, like, why would you. Why would you bring a guy back if you're on the outside looking in with coming back from an ACL injury? So this might end up being a season that the Florida Panthers end up punting, but by no means is their Stanley cup window done. If anything, it just gets him that little bit of extra rest and they're going to hit the ground running next year. They're still very much in this window.

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah, they had that luxury, right, of taking a year off if they knew need to. I. My opinion, it'll be, they got. I think they got to go, what, like 18 and 7 or whatever the numbers are. They got to win a lot of games. But if they come out after this Olympic break and are flat, they'll probably shut down Marchi. They'll probably shut down Barkov for the rest of the year because what I'm hearing, he's skating. It looks like he could play at some point this season, but. But if you're out of it in the next 10 games, they're not going to force him to come back, even though he's the type of guy that would want to play no matter what. So they've earned that luxury. They've won the last two years. They've played a lot of hockey in the last three years where if they don't make the playoffs, they'll just retool this summer and be back ready to

[Paul Bissonnette]

go for next year and going back to cough. It's fun. People are like, oh, what's bringing back an assistant coach going to do?

[Ian Hamilton]

A lot.

[Paul Bissonnette]

The, the. The level of confidence that you can instill in players, especially Shard when he's with him. Right. Oh, it's. But it. You push the right buttons and, and confidence is a hell of a drug, man. Once you get it and you start rolling, that's all it needs to be. It's a, it's a. It's a. It's a 90 mental game in the NHL. And I think that Paul Coffey's gonna have those boys ready to go. And if you're an Edmonton Oiler fan, you got to be so fired up

[Biz Nasty]

with, oh, I love it. I love it.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Like, if. If someone came to you and said, hey, we need you to chip in 50k for a salary in order to go win a Stanley cup, would you have done it?

[Biz Nasty]

50k, 50 left.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It'd be a tough conversation with Breed. Where'd the money. Where's this 50 gig go?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, sorry. You Got to cancel that vacation we had planned for kids Spring break. But we got cough back. But is that.

[Ian Hamilton]

She's like, who is there. Is there a better guy? I mean, he. He was a defenseman with two of the best players. Three of the best players. Messier, Curry, Wayne, obviously. But is there a better guy to have in the back end to talk to D men to play with two of the best players in the world?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. Yeah. Kind of helping, like almost. He almost knows what they want, how they want it. Based on the way that Gretzky and

[Paul Bissonnette]

Messier experience is, is. Is insanely valuable. I said it, I want to say like two months ago. If I'm Daryl Cates given with what they make every single playoff game, I would offer Paul Coffey $8 million to come back as an assistant coach.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. And that might have been what happened. Who knows?

[Ryan Whitney]

That's.

[Paul Bissonnette]

That's one playoff game. Game at home.

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Ching, ching, baby. So he's the highest paid coach in the league.

[Biz Nasty]

So cough's ready to go. And there's another man ready to go.

[Ryan Whitney]

Who?

[Ian Hamilton]

Who?

[Biz Nasty]

Rear admiral. Bring him in.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hello, everybody, and welcome to our RA World here, the Spitting Chicklets podcast. Shout out to the ladies of team USA Megan Keller. Incredible goal to win the overtime. I'm still. My adrenaline is through the roof and I couldn't be happier for her. I don't. If you remember, Biz, a few years ago we had the pink Whitney cup in New Jersey, which, you know, we had a bunch of little there. It was like a mishmash of all kinds of people. And she's such a nice kid. I couldn't be happier for her. Like we did the pig Whitney cup. And then a couple years ago they had the. The basically the year end Boston fleet party, the Knights of Columbus patio. Kind of a spur of the moment thing. When she scored, man, I was like jumping through the ceiling. I was just so happy for her. She's such a great kid. Just an unreal game.

[Paul Bissonnette]

So it's awesome, dude. Congrats. All right. I said, I said it to Whitney Ann's. I shook their hand. You guys earned it. Great team and really cool that you guys got. Well, we all got to hang out a few years back in New Jersey there and G's already got the post up flexing at their friends, playing tummy sticks over there.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Champions.

[Paul Bissonnette]

We shouldn't get her on champions. We're champions. Yeah, but congrats, buddy. And a good start to the weekend for you.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, she's like I said, she's such A great kid, too. Just a really nice person. And it was crazy, too biz. Thirteen out of the last 30 times the Canada U.S. played, whether it's Olympics or world championships, 13 out of last 30 with overtime, which is a pretty crazy stat. I don't know. It's a little. A little wild, but also too. I know TJ just said about, like, girls participation. It's gone up 65 in the last 15 season. Seasons, like, girls. Girls in the United States. So great stuff there. Just a awesome game. And, you know, shout out to the Canadian ladies, too. You can see how despondent they were at the end. And I couldn't believe what I mean, you know, as a gamble man, what the odds were on there. I mean, USA was minus 470. Canada plus three.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. So this was. This was saying if Canada wins, it would be a bigger upset than if Czech had beat Canada the day before.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I was exaggerating a tab.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, okay.

[TJ Oshie]

Okay.

[Biz Nasty]

All right. Yeah, so he was exaggerated, but. But I didn't have any idea the odds were that much because I jumped down his throat, and then Grinelli looked it up. I was shocked at that as well. I mean, based on them playing prior to the Olympics, US Winning every game in the round robin, I kind of get it, but the value was on betting Canada, and, I mean, you had that game 1. What was it, 2 minutes left? 2. 2, 20 left or whatever it was when. When Hillary Knight scores. And. Yeah, exciting win. It was awesome to see. We got to watch the whole game here. Very exciting and happy for those girls because they're gonna have a hell of a time tonight.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And also for Keller, like, that's a. That's, like, one of those goals where, like, you dance the defender, you go in backhand, it's in the net. Like, that's an iconic goal. And, oh, yeah, it'll forever be remembered in USA Hockey history, so. What a way to do it.

[Ryan Whitney]

And she assisted on the tie angle as well. And I actually had a. I better for the first goal of the game, which obviously didn't happen, but she was 61, so I was kind of in the area, but didn't have it exactly right. But jumping back, I. I know you guys already talked about the check here in the game. The funniest part about the six men of the ice was the six guys celebrated, like,

[Biz Nasty]

another one on for another

[Paul Bissonnette]

guy in our race. Seven guys were in that doggy pile.

[Ryan Whitney]

It was ridiculous, and it was hilarious, but it was embarrassing. But it was like. Like, you know, they had to notice Wait a minute. Like none of these guys are the freaking goalie. There's six of us all hugging it out but hilarious stuff. But anyways, good, good time. The Olympics have been awesome. Magical. Five straight overtime games we've had between yesterday and today. These games have been awesome. Good stuff going on. But I do want to give you a tribute to a guy, Pierre Edward Bellamire. He told reporters after the game France lost to Germany five to one. He said, this is it. He was an undrafted 40 year old Ford. He made his NHL debut for the Flyers at 29. Played 10 NHL seasons for five teams, 700 games, played 85 more in the playoffs. Played in two Stanley cup finals. Spent several years in France and Sweden prior to that. But Elliot said, are you done? He says, you know, I could still play in a few more years, but you know, I'm done. My family, I need to be around my kids, my wife wants to have a career. And Elliot said he was the best person to cover to hear from. So I just want to give a congrats to him on a hell of a career. Wish you the best every time at pe.

[Paul Bissonnette]

That's awesome. So he never, he never won one. You said two Stanley cup finals, never got one, right?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I played in 18 with Vegas and 22 at Tampa Bay Light. So yeah, he didn't win one, but yeah, it was just a pretty nice thing. Everybody who wrote about him had a lot of good things to say about him.

[Biz Nasty]

So yeah, great checking forward, really responsible and I mean to get to play for your country. It was, it was, I'm sure, quite the, quite the special way to go out, you know, just to make it

[Ian Hamilton]

to the NHL from France. That's a huge accomplishment. I'm sure he's going to have his hands in a lot of younger kids coming up playing and hopefully making it to the NHL.

[Paul Bissonnette]

There haven't been many. I didn't realize Antoine Roussel was a guy who came from France too. I thought he was Quebec Wa. Who are some other French players?

[Ian Hamilton]

It was a goalie, right?

[Biz Nasty]

Stefan Dasta, who played at Merrimack and has dominated the khl for like 12 years now.

[Ian Hamilton]

Wow.

[Biz Nasty]

Definitely played a little bit in the NHL, I think with Ottawa, but has been just like a legit 50 point guy for 10 years and 12 years in the KHL, made a boatload of money.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Was Cristobal Hue the from. From France? Is my crazy.

[Biz Nasty]

Was he Swiss?

[Ian Hamilton]

I feel like I think he was Swiss. But wasn't there a French goalie in the NHL? You're the goalie guy. Ra.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I'm drawing a blank.

[Biz Nasty]

RA What'd you think of the Frank, the France Ice Hockey Federation kicking that defenseman out of the tournament?

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, with the one who fought Wilson.

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, he did look like he was trying to get a little skirmish going. I guess he has a bit of a history too of like of pulling some during games. So I. And the team, actually, I think the team, his own organization kicked them out. Not. Not even the Olympic organization, if I'm not mistaken. Like, you know, like they.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, I know. I just. All his teammates were like not happy about it. It seemed like it was just forgiving the Hulk Hogan. I thought he got the raw end of that. Yes. I don't know the prior stuff, what went down, but based on his teammates at the Olympics comments, it was like, this is kind of that. If you kicked out of that game, but the IOC or the IHF isn't doing anything, like why is our team doing something to him? So I thought it was a little interesting.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I mean, I guess that may be indicative of how they, how they feel about him, but we. How about Big Cat, one of the all time. And I'm not usually a mush jinx whammy guy, but Big Cat with one of the biggest mushes of all time. When you guys were on the golf course the other day, like call Big

[Paul Bissonnette]

Cat being Big Cat. You should have heard him today on pmt. Like he's just like. I don't know. Yeah, he's just like, he's just. Oh, he's kind of a dick sometimes. Like you saw what he did to Hank last week after the Super Bowl.

[Ryan Whitney]

Moving right along today in hockey history, we got to give a happy 84th birthday to the absolute legend himself, Phyllis Besito. He was born on this day in 1942. Crazy friggin stat. Phyllis Besito scored his 50th goal of the season on his birthday on three separate occasions.

[Paul Bissonnette]

That is awesome.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, three separate times on his 50th. I'm sorry. On his birthday he scored his 50 goals. 71, 72 and 74.

[TJ Oshie]

That's a wild stat.

[Ian Hamilton]

You should thank him for the nifty trade too, because he wanted Ken Hodge on the. On the Rangers with him. So you should be thanking him for getting nifty for all those years.

[Ryan Whitney]

Keith, is that the. I mean, I know there's been tons of huge trades in NHL history, but have you ever seen three hall of Famers in one trade? I don't think it's ever happened before, right? Brad Py.

[Biz Nasty]

Not that I can think of.

[Ryan Whitney]

And, and, and Jean Retell. And Retell, man, he's one of my favorite Bruins. I think they got him when he was like 31 or 32 and he was putting up like over a point per game at that age too. So.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Crazy trade Esposito. It just seems like things like that happened to him. I heard a story when they were naming the Lightning. They got the, they got the Tampa team approved and they were trying to think of a name and he was sitting out on his back patio and there was lightning out. And he just said, lightning?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, like out over the water. Out over the water.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And that's how the Tampa Bay Lightning got their name. So it just seems like, like things just kind of fall in his lap, so to speak, you know?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, exactly, exactly what happened. Because Bucha Grass did a book with him a few years ago, his autobiography that, but like Butcher Grass Road Farming. Yeah, he did say, he was saying

[Ian Hamilton]

he asked the hard hitting questions to, to the O dog in the draft meeting.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Oh yeah.

[Ian Hamilton]

Do you like to golf?

[Paul Bissonnette]

Well, it's funny that I, I, I didn't end up continuing after that, but when Terry Ryan did that, that infamous interview with Milbury, Esposito was the next team that he was interviewing with because he was going to be a first round draft pick, probably in the top 15 picks. And then Esposito asked them about like what had happened in that room because there was obviously some chaos and Esposito was like laughing about it. Cracked a beer and had a beer with him and did his meeting with him where once again, he was not, he was asking, you know, where do you fish, you know, where do you vacation, what do you like to do with your spare time instead of grilling the guy that some of these, some of the way these guys do before Espo.

[Biz Nasty]

Also, considering we're in the middle of the Olympics and playing for your country. A legendary speech to the citizens of Canada before they went over to Moscow for the final four games of the 72 Summit Series, where he kind of showed and made his disgust, like out in the open, like, I can't believe you're booing us. Like, we're trying so hard. This is a good team. And they go on to, to get the wins in Russia that they needed to get to get that series. So always has spoken his mind, very colorful character. And yeah, I mean, the Stanley Cups in Boston and, and then being a part of Lightning ownership as that team Came into the league. He's had. He's had quite the run.

[TJ Oshie]

So.

[Biz Nasty]

Did you say 84?

[Ian Hamilton]

He still does some.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Ian Hamilton]

Does he still do some radio or TV stuff with Tampa?

[Biz Nasty]

I think he did radio color commentating for a while.

[Ryan Whitney]

I believe he did that for a bit. And he's got a statue out in front as well. I mean, he was, you know, like, basically the founder of the team, and he. He was. You know, you just mentioned the Summit series with. Not the biggest fan of Russians for a long time. But then, ironically, his daughter ended up marrying a Russian later life. So he kind of. He kind of softened his stance on the Ruskis later. Like life. But either way, Espo, we love you here in Boston, man. I don't know if you're gonna hear this or not, but nothing but love for Espo here. I know things didn't end great for. For him in the city, but not the happy birthday.

[Paul Bissonnette]

A couple clicks for us, Paul.

[Ryan Whitney]

Absolutely.

[Biz Nasty]

Do we share a birthday?

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah, it's Whit's birthday, too.

[Ryan Whitney]

Just have that. Had that down here. I was just gonna get that. Wait, how would. How old are you?

[Biz Nasty]

43.

[Ryan Whitney]

43.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Wow.

[Ryan Whitney]

Holy guy. Wait, so you. You only 33 when. When we started this with the show? Yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

That's pretty crazy.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, that's what I think's crazy is we've been doing this show longer than I played in the NHL.

[Ian Hamilton]

Oh, wow.

[Biz Nasty]

Which is very weird to. To think about.

[Ryan Whitney]

That is kind of insane. But. So that means I was, what, 43. Holy man.

[Paul Bissonnette]

A few more years and. And we've been doing this longer than I played pro. Like, I played pro 12 years.

[Biz Nasty]

Yep. Yeah, I think I was 12, too. Yeah. So we're coming up on. On. On beating our first career within this second one, so. Yeah, you've been there since the start. Crazy. It was probably right around my birthday, we did the first ever episode because I know it was right near the Super Bowl.

[Ryan Whitney]

It was. Yeah, it was right before the Super bowl in 2016. It was.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Like. Yeah. Wild stuff.

[Biz Nasty]

I mean, I. When. When we met and we started this, I was just retired, not much going on, and now married with three kids. So it kind of shows how. How much life has changed and. And how lucky I am. So I appreciate it, buddy.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Divorce with no kids, so I'm a little. Little.

[Paul Bissonnette]

You're going backwards.

[Biz Nasty]

No, no, no. All right. You're doing great.

[Paul Bissonnette]

You're doing good, buddy.

[Ryan Whitney]

I've been on half. Like I said, happy to be happy again. Oh. A couple other Leafs notes While I hit visit now. 1999 on this date, February 20th, the Leafs hosted the Habs in the first ever hockey game at the. The new Air Canada Center. The Leafs won 3, 2, no tea, Steve Stumpy Thomas with the game winning goal. Like, do you remember when that opened? Like, do you remember the transition of like Maple Leaf Gardens to the Canada Center? Like, was it a big deal back then? Like, what do you remember about that?

[Paul Bissonnette]

I think I may have attended like one, if not maybe two games in at the, the old, the old Garden Maple Leaf Gardens. The thing the problem was though is tickets there were so expensive and like my, you know, my dad worked in a steel mill. They actually used to give us sabers tickets at like the, if we went to the, the bank. We used to be at the, the Atlas Credit Union there and they used to give us. So I never really went there. When the Air Canada finally opened, I think one of the first times I ever attended was when I finally got an agent like at a certain age and they brought me there and like I got to, you know, go up and eat in this like special room and like they had this buffet and I, I couldn't believe it. I think it was LA versus Toronto. So I got to experience it. Not. It was probably, probably about two or three years after it had finally opened. So I was never there for like any of the opening.

[Biz Nasty]

It's a building that's, that's aged pretty well. I know the Garden's done a pretty good job at like redoing things, but it got old kind of quick. Right? What did the garden open? 96.

[Ryan Whitney]

The first season there was 95. 96.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. And like all of a sudden like few years back, it's like, geez, this place isn't that old where I feel like where the, where the Leafs play, like that building. I'm sure they've made some changes too, but it's a, it's, it's quiet, but it's a sick building.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It's got a. Yeah. Big concourse. Like sometimes those older buildings, they got tight concourses though. But I love, I love to go watch a game there in the Bees.

[Ryan Whitney]

They. They definitely have gussied up the last few years. They sort of blow up that wall that goes toward the Causeway street side, you know, got a little bit better. You know, they, they basically had a shoehorned in where it is one last one on this date, 1944. I've never heard of a perfect game in hockey, but. But the Leafs and Blackhawks played the NHL's first ever perfect game. Goaltenders Paul Bibo and Mike Caracas battled to a scrollist high while no penalties were called during the game. Have you ever heard that like, phrase before?

[Biz Nasty]

No, but those poor people who paid money to go to that game. I mean no penalties, no goals. You're leaving there with your kid who's getting to go to one game his whole childhood. It's like, thanks, dad.

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah, they should be refunded.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, no, no wonder why I don't make.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Or you get to say you. You attended the first ever perfect hockey.

[Ian Hamilton]

But I probably.

[Biz Nasty]

But I think but I, I, but I. I don't want to call that the perfect hockey game. Like that's not worse. Yeah, it's the worst hockey game that was.

[Paul Bissonnette]

We got a. We got a flight to catch and the refs need to get some pops

[Biz Nasty]

after the game or a train to catch then.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah, that's true.

[TJ Oshie]

At work.

[Ryan Whitney]

We got to bring back a couple couple of.

[Paul Bissonnette]

At the night shift.

[Ryan Whitney]

Couple. All right, Hamilton, questions. We got a few here. We haven't done this for a little bit.

[Ian Hamilton]

Okay, favorite segment.

[Ryan Whitney]

I got one. Ari, this is from. Well at Coug. Hilltop, Tannis o'. Connell. What are your top five rock bands of all time? Obviously the Stones. So I don't, I won't include them. Everybody knows they're my number one. But I gotta go. Petty Zeppelin, Arrowsmith, U2 and probably the Black Crows. I think my top five rock bands. What do you guys. Who you guys chime in?

[Paul Bissonnette]

I would, I would put AC dc. It has to do with when I grew up and like what fired me up for hockey games and what I was bumping. ACDC would be in there. Led Zeppelin for sure. They got amazing stuff. I would put Metallica because I also grew up on them. You know who I would put? And some people might say it's more like, like rap slash alternative.

[Ian Hamilton]

Limp Bizkit?

[Paul Bissonnette]

No. Rage against the Machine. I, I love.

[Biz Nasty]

They had a couple songs before a game and.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And who's Give it away. Give it away, give it away now.

[Biz Nasty]

Red Hot Chili.

[Paul Bissonnette]

The Chili Peppers.

[Ryan Whitney]

What about you, Yance?

[Ian Hamilton]

I'm not a big band guy, but if I had to pick, I'd probably go Oasis. Are they a band?

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Ian Hamilton]

Oasis. I'll do Eric Clapton. I'll do Metallica because. Yeah, I'll do Metallica because of Derek Morris driving to the rink with him banging my head off the steering wheel. And then I will do Black Sabbath. Rest in peace to.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah. Ozzy Osborne.

[Ian Hamilton]

Osborne.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Can I throw in a show Can I throw in a Canadian wild card on this one?

[Ryan Whitney]

Do whatever you want, buddy.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Actually, I'll throw in two Canadian wild cards. Tragically.

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Okay. I'd sub one of the ones I put for Tragically Hip and then I would actually put Dallas Green and Alexis on Fire, so. Alexis on Fire. The guy ended up breaking off and doing a kind of more of a solo act called City in Color. Dallas Green, obviously. One being a city, one being a color.

[Biz Nasty]

They have a couple good songs.

[Paul Bissonnette]

The City in Color, he's. He's got a tremendous voice. So why are you looking? What's up over there? Top five band of all time.

[Ryan Whitney]

None of us have heard of them.

[Ian Hamilton]

He likes them.

[Paul Bissonnette]

No, but here's.

[Biz Nasty]

No, no, I've heard of them. I've heard of them.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I. I wanted to give a special love to like, the Canadian side of it. And I also think it's how it resonates. Resignates with you. Like, I. I like. I don't give a. What you like.

[Ian Hamilton]

No, it's yours.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, it's mine.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Ian Hamilton]

I gotta add the. I'm gonna. I gotta add the Killers to mine. I like them. And I caught a drumstick at their concert.

[Biz Nasty]

You got. You guys missed one.

[TJ Oshie]

I know.

[Paul Bissonnette]

We lost a lot of them.

[Biz Nasty]

You missed one.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Guess who.

[Biz Nasty]

10 Fey.

[Paul Bissonnette]

They're not rock, though.

[Biz Nasty]

No, we were. We were hot stoving in Tampa ra. Just in the room. And I brought up how music's so cool to me because certain songs bring you to a moment in your life. Like, it's just like you'll. You hear a song and forever you'll think of maybe one specific moment or something. You always did to that music. So. Drive into hockey with my dad. You too. Sunday Bloody Sunday and Where the Streets have no Name. Like, those songs were played before we got out of the car. Maybe the last two songs before every game. So whenever I hear either one of those songs and a lot of you two, I kind of think back to those great memories. So YouTube's been my. I've said they're my favorite band forever.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I just can't get it. It just doesn't do it for me.

[Biz Nasty]

Some people for sure.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And.

[TJ Oshie]

And.

[Biz Nasty]

But yeah, Metallica was a good one. Biz. And. But I just love the fact that no matter what you hear a song and it's like you think of something. You think of something so specific and that's. That's kind of what I love about it. TED Talk, you know, biz.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'm surprised that the hip wasn't More popular down in the States. I don't, I don't know.

[Biz Nasty]

I never got that either. Maybe, maybe it was because it was before streaming.

[Ian Hamilton]

They didn't tour, didn't they get. Couldn't one of them not come to the US So they couldn't really get big because back then you had to come and tour to get big.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah, I, I'm pretty sure they did. Maybe not enough. It just, I, I, yeah, it just wasn't something that Americans caught on to. I, I put them in the same class as a band like Oar, where they just never really went mainstream.

[Biz Nasty]

Gord Downey's last concert, like 20 million

[Paul Bissonnette]

Canadians watching, I bet you about around there. Yeah, it was actually in his hometown of Kingston.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

And it was outside. I remember watching it. I, I was actually fortunate enough and the Tim Quaxister, he's the one who does all the, the car shows, the Barrett Jackson and great guy and a friend of mine and he actually invited me, he had a box at one of the shows in Vancouver and I was able to attend that with them. And actually the, the lead singer from another rock band was with us in the box. Chad Kroger.

[Ian Hamilton]

Nice.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah, yeah. From Nickelback. Yeah, Nickelback. I should put them because I'm technically in the band now.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah, that's true.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

So, but great, great question. I actually just googled top 50. I mean, I'm, I'm shocked I didn't say Oasis too, because I grew up on that, that. But like, there's, like, there's so many good ones in here that you're just scrolling by. You're like, they have no doubt with Gwen Stefani. That was great. Growing a good run. Oh, unbelievable. Green days in there. Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Going back to the hip. If you haven't seen it yet. And even if you know nothing about the band, they have an awesome docu series. It's just a, like, whole history of the band and you know how things, you know how things ended. Like, you just mentioned the last concert. Just a fantastic documentary series. Again, you don't have to be a fan of the band. It's just awesome documentary series. Like, very interesting because I, I mean, I know like, maybe one or two of the songs and I always said, this band is great, man. I just don't understand why they never, like, hit it off on here.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I, I also listened 15 times over and over, the greatest hits of the Eagles and they have an incredible documentary that's out. I think it's.

[Biz Nasty]

That documentary is awesome.

[Paul Bissonnette]

It's unbelievable. Because, you know, we're so young that we didn't really like, you know, we weren't around during their heydays and how they got together and.

[Biz Nasty]

No, I was more into Don Henley like as the Boys of Summer, that song and his Single Eagle career or when he was on his own. And then I remember finding out, oh my God, he was in the. He was in the Eagles. So yeah, that's a good call.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Tough to not mention Queen either.

[Biz Nasty]

Freddie Mercury.

[Paul Bissonnette]

What a banner.

[Ian Hamilton]

The Beatles, like, what are we doing?

[Biz Nasty]

Never have liked the Beatles.

[Ian Hamilton]

Oh, I love.

[Biz Nasty]

Never have been a big fan of the Beatles. I was. My wife was telling me she was driving one at Ryder and his buddy home and he just wanted to listen to the Yellow Submarine. He loved the Beatles. I was like, I. I don't know if I could have made that ride if I. Playing Yellow Submarine, overall, I think it's one of the worst songs ever made.

[Ian Hamilton]

Yeah, it's not great.

[Ryan Whitney]

Metallica, like, I don't know if you guys ever seen them. Well, I saw them I think last summer. Foxborough, one of the best concerts I've ever seen in my life. Just like, I mean, Headbang and Central. I had a sore neck the next day from smacking my head all night. But we do got to give a shout out to the small town strip club if we're going to be talking about bands I've seen.

[Ian Hamilton]

I've seen them RA on the first leg of their tour and then the last leg of their tour and they were equally as good both times. Metallica. So they bring it no matter what, whether it's the first concert or the last. They are, Geez.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, there's a old vibe. There's a crazy clip of them playing and it's a European country. I wish I remember, but it's on the.

[Ian Hamilton]

Probably like Finland.

[Biz Nasty]

There's got to be a hundred thousand people just head banging going crazy.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I think the. One of the craziest rock shows of all time was Metallica in Russia.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay. That's what it is, probably Russia.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh yeah, people, right?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Nuts, bro. And. And the bangers they have with the guitar that are just getting everybody head banging. So I. I Googled the top 50 of all time and. And on this list the top five are Queen, Pink Floyd, who I don't think we mentioned the Beatles is one. Yeah. Rolling Stones is two. Led Zeppelin. Yeah. And then those other Pink Floyd and then Queen. So that's a. Hey, great, great little riff there, boys.

[Ryan Whitney]

Definitely. If that one band. I wish I was you Know, could have. Could have shot live. Is definitely Zeppelin and Bob Marley. Those are, like, probably the two accent. Wish I was a little bit younger. I should say older to be able to see them. All right, last one. All right, Hamilton here from Matthew Charles. Matt Charles, 21. We got your hat washing method. Ra, what is your foolproof way to get dog off your shoes? Kind of a weird question, but throw them out.

[Ian Hamilton]

Throw them right in the garbage.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, that's straight to the garbage.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Go pick up some nobles.

[Ryan Whitney]

Not all sheets in the bag. So for guys who can't buy new sneakers tomorrow. No, honestly, if. If it. If there's puddles out. If it had just step in a puddle and then get a stick. And that's my best.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I love this. I want to see Ra on an infomercial getting off his shoes in a puddle.

[Ryan Whitney]

It hasn't happened.

[Biz Nasty]

That is the most. That is.

[TJ Oshie]

Wow.

[Biz Nasty]

Simplest answer you've ever given to anything. Like, yeah, hey, what do I do if I'm thirsty? Oh, there's a water bubbler over there. They press the button.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Neighbor ever lives on your lawn? You have a step on that on your lawn. Well, I got a solution for you.

[Biz Nasty]

A puddle and a stick. Or a neighbor's pool, if you hate the neighbor. Yeah.

[Ian Hamilton]

Above ground.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Or you just throw in the dishwasher with your hat.

[Ryan Whitney]

The worst. Oh, well, if you live in the city, it doesn't happen because, you know to, like, just look down because there's so many scumbag. Actually, Gordelli, you said when you moved to Southey recently that that was one of your biggest, biggest complaints, right?

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

Yeah, it's awful.

[Ryan Whitney]

Actually, Hoboken, where I used to live, just issued.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

If you leave your dog on the

[Ryan Whitney]

sidewalk, it's a $2,500 fine because so many. Once all the snow melted, it got so bad. So I hope Stealthy does something like that, because I think it's so.

[Biz Nasty]

It's hard to catch them, though.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I think that at certain HOA communities, when you rent, I think you have to give a DNA sample of your dog. No way.

[Ian Hamilton]

You're 100%. Mark Pissick lived in one, and we were walking his dog late one night, banged up, and he's, like, looking to, like, pick up the. I'm like, dude, just leave it. I was like, no. He's like, no. Yeah, well, it wasn't my dog. Pick up mine.

[Paul Bissonnette]

My guy.

[Biz Nasty]

But.

[Ian Hamilton]

But he was like, no. Dude, they take a sample of your dog's before, and then if there's anything out there, they test it oh, and

[Biz Nasty]

the rookies in the hoa, they have to be the testers for. Till another. Till another couple comes comes in.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah, they're like. There's a group email that goes out. It's like, guys, some disturbing. Some disturbing news. That was actually human. Somebody took a.

[Ian Hamilton]

They're testing all the humans in the

[Paul Bissonnette]

walkway of the apartment. We're asking everybody to supply DNA samples,

[Ian Hamilton]

and there's no puddles to clean it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I. Business I got. This is my own little. All right, Hamilton for the crew. I. When you croak, whether you go to heaven, hell, whatever gates are gonna let you win, what questions from your life would you want answered? Like, unsolved mysteries. Like, who stole my bike when I was 10? Like. Like, you know, I. How did I get in when I was blacked out that night? Who had a crush me when I was younger? Did know what. What mysteries of your life would you want answered? Like, when you. When you. When you die, do you go into heaven or hell?

[Paul Bissonnette]

Shockingly, it would actually relate back to hockey. And I would have wondered if I ever would have stayed a defenseman if I would have actually made the NHL as a defenseman and maybe had a longer playing career and played more ice and stuff like that.

[Ian Hamilton]

I think you'd still be playing, but.

[Paul Bissonnette]

But then, like, like, obviously this side of it happened as a result of just me kind of turning into a clown, but that was. That would kind of maybe just. Yeah, I don't know how I would get to that answer, but that is

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

what happened to your draft suit.

[Paul Bissonnette]

That would be a G. Out of the clouds.

[Biz Nasty]

That is fucking good.

[Paul Bissonnette]

That might have been the fucking off the top of the head. Coolest thing you've ever said.

[Ryan Whitney]

G. Yeah. What about you, Ian? One mystery question. You're like, oh, I don't remember what happened, but I want to know before I.

[Ian Hamilton]

Mine would probably. And it kind of just reminded me when Biz said about his. Mine would probably be. If I went to call, if I had ended up going the college route, if I would have made it to the NHL.

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, I mean, college.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, he's saying he might have. He might have partied too hard.

[Paul Bissonnette]

All right, If. I think if I would have went to college, I don't think I would ever played pro because I learned those lessons my first two, three years pro of, like, getting into trouble, knowing what it's like to not live with a billet. Have to be, you know, know, like, sure, there was curfew nights before games, but, like, it's not like we were calling in. Right. It was, you know, you had to kind of be a little bit more of a man on your own. And and that was difficult for me anyway for the first couple years.

[Biz Nasty]

That's a great question. I was deciding between two different surgeons before the My left foot surgery. And the guy mangled me. And I don't know, you know, if I went with the other guy. Maybe I just love. Because it. The foot is so messed up now that my knee is so messed up, and my left hip is now so messed up. And it's like, I wonder if I chose that other guy.

[Ryan Whitney]

Wow.

[Ian Hamilton]

Mine might be. Who took all the corkscrews in Milan, Italy from Kevin bx.

[TJ Oshie]

Yeah.

[Ian Hamilton]

So he can't drink his wine.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm also. Yeah, maybe, like, what. You know, what would have happened if I didn't burn the lasagna that time.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Yeah, that's true.

[Ryan Whitney]

Mine is going back to 2004. The first Stanley cup party I crashed with Tampa Bay wanted is I left the arena. And, you know, you leave an arena, you don't get back. And I was a fan. I didn't have a press pass. I have no idea how I got back in to the arena the night I crashed at Tampa Bay Stanley cup potty in 2004. Long night, long day. But I definitely want to know, like, how I either bullshit somebody or, like, lied or just stuck in a door. I really don't know how I ended it back in that building, but if there's a close.

[Biz Nasty]

You could have. You could like, that could have been like, Brick killed the guy. Like, you could have killed the gu. You don't even know.

[Ryan Whitney]

Then it almost got. They almost got arrested afterwards, but no way. That's one mystery I definitely want to figure out.

[Paul Bissonnette]

But here's my surprise. Fish.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. All right. Couple more here. My classic recommendation of the week. I'm not sure if you guys saw it. It's Reservoir Dogs, 1992 movie. Phenomenal movie. I mean, obviously, he's one of the greatest directors of our lifetime, but if you haven't seen it, give it a whirl. It's a fantastic debut from Quentin Tarantino. And as far as my picks, man, guys, I'm on a little bit of a dilemma here. I have a Slovakia future at 80 to 1 right now.

[Biz Nasty]

All right, I don't want to hear this right now. I don't want to hear this out of your mouth right now. You're wearing a USA hockey hat. We just talked about what the women did to hate Hedge.

[Ryan Whitney]

I, I, I'm I don't. I'm just gonna say there's no real way to, like, like, guarantee myself money. No, I'm. Buddy. I'm USA all the way. But it just.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, you do this.

[Ryan Whitney]

You do.

[Biz Nasty]

You do. You. You don't. You don't touch anything. And then hopefully US Wins, and you hammer them in the gold medal game. And if they somehow lose to Slovakia, which would be heartbreaking, at least you can really hedge something then.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I mean, I'm a big let it ride guy, but. Yeah, I'm just curious. Wanted to pick your brain, so. So all the way. Go ahead.

[Biz Nasty]

All right, we're ending the show with this. Are you all done?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay. So I just wanted to bring something up because I figured you'd want to be involved. And just thoughts and prayers are going out to the Vetrano family right now. And Frankie's brother Sam, he passed away. 43 years old, Father, husband, and cancer sucks. And Frankie's such a good guy. His brother was great hockey player at Babson, and just want to shout out their family.

[Ian Hamilton]

Just.

[Biz Nasty]

Just horrible news. So tough way to end the show, but I figured you'd want to be on there for that. You know, Frankie a little bit as well.

[Ian Hamilton]

I met his brother a few times, obviously playing with Frank and going to his wedding, hanging out with him, and. And just a tremendous guy. And he was sick for four years. I talked to Frankie today, and when he originally got diagnosed, they told him he had 18 months and just fought and fought and lived four and a half years. You know, really showed his family what what fight means. And. And I think, you know, his legacy is going to live on. And, you know, I know Whit had shared some stories about talking to people. He was coaching youth hockey in. In Hingham, Mass. And just. Just one of those guys you saw every day at the rink, and he was just a joy to see. So, thoughts and prayers to the Vetrano family. An unbelievable family. Just true blue collar. Awesome, awesome family. And we're thinking of all you guys, and we love you.

[Ryan Whitney]

Keith, you just mentioned the rank, and, you know, the rank is. It's like a. People go there. It's a sanctimonious place. People go there to. To escape and have fun. And it was violated so bad in Pataka, Rhode island, this week. You know, I know you guys posted online, but so, like, deeply heartbroken and sad what happened at the Dennis M. Lynch arena down in Pawtucket this week, and we extend out our deepest sympathies, condolences to everybody affected by it. It's just, you know, this foolishness we've talked about on the show before, that when this shit happens, it's just so frustrating and aggravating and awful. So, you know, it's everybody affected by it. Everyone here at Spit and Chicklet send our deepest sympathies, regrets, and condolences. And we're so sorry it happened and anything we could do for you guys, reach out and we're just, you know, just sad we have to talk about this stuff again.

[Kevin Bxa (Juice)]

So.

[Biz Nasty]

Yep.

[Ryan Whitney]

I know it's tough to do, but we, you know, we need to acknowledge these things.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Well said, RA and sorry about your guys loss and. And just, you know, great seeing your face though. All right.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, we'll talk next. All right. Go usa bud.

[Paul Bissonnette]

Let's go, baby.

[Biz Nasty]

Go usa.

[Ian Hamilton]

All right.

[Biz Nasty]

See you later, buddy.

[Paul Bissonnette]

We love you, buddy.

[TJ Oshie]

All right.

[Biz Nasty]

A bad habit worth breaking, but it's taking time.

[Paul Bissonnette]

I don't know.

[Biz Nasty]

It don't matter.

[TJ Oshie]

It's gonna happen.

[Paul Bissonnette]

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[Biz Nasty]

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[Paul Bissonnette]

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[TJ Oshie]

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[Biz Nasty]

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[Ryan Whitney]

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[Biz Nasty]

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[Paul Bissonnette]

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[Ryan Whitney]

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[Biz Nasty]

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[Ryan Whitney]

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