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Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 649: Featuring Tripp Tracy, Erik Johnson & Liam Blutman
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Ryan Whitney
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Ryan Whitney
Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is Barstool Sports.
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Keith Yandle
I brought it towards the coyotes and I asked them if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chickens podcast full time.
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Biz Nasty
Ryan Whitney's got a Pink Whitney out there now. Geek Yandel. The song man is a full time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris Beat. Whoa.
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Yan Stastny
We're buzzing right now.
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Biz Nasty
What is up, everyone? Pinkies up on Memorial Day Monday. Shout out everyone out there who's tuning in with us on a holiday. We appreciate it. Shout out all the soldiers that are serving now that have served before. What an incredible holiday and an incredible day for some spit and Chiclets and Pink Whitney. Hats off, hats off, hats off. And. And let me tell you, biz, Pink Whitney's everywhere. We keep saying it. I know down in Carolina they needed that Pink Whitney game too. They tied that thing up right. I don't know if it's in Montreal or not. I'm actually in Puerto Rico right now, which I mentioned. There's a Puerto Rican bartender here at the resort that's an enormous Florida Panthers fan that said to me, we need to get Pink Whitney here at this resort. I said, I'll see what I can Do. But I got, I can't give promises, you know, I have my name on it. But other than that, I got no say in anything. So shout out. Pinkies up and pink Whitney. And the conference finals.
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Keith Yandle
Oh, my God.
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Biz Nasty
One shocking, shocking situation out west.
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Keith Yandle
You got the rub some pink Whitney on that leg McKinnon.
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Biz Nasty
Oh, my God, that's crazy. We're going to get into that. And we got Carolina just biting back, biting back against Keith Tabs. Biz is on the Hurricanes because Jeff Gordon said, don't you come near our Montreal Canadiens. Don't you even.
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Keith Yandle
I'm coming near.
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Biz Nasty
You got to be careful.
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Keith Yandle
I mean, some high rise building. And it's actually funny you mentioned you don't know if it's in Montreal. The province of Quebec is the only province right now, I believe that is is selling pink Whitney where the tariffs didn't affect it. So shout out, shout out, shout out. Three victories, sexiest provinces there is. Oh, we don't need to Montreal. We don't need.
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Biz Nasty
You're there right now. I, I, I can't imagine the messages you're getting for anyone who's wondering. Biz has a. If you're, if you're not watching a hockey dad or new hat 47 brand hockey dad, great lid. But he said, is this full palm not a hockey dad? I said, you're a hockey daddy, though. And I know in Montreal it's really going to be some biz daddy time. So, guys, we're going to start, we're going to start out west. We have, we have Eric Johnson coming on today. He's just dialed in everywhere. We got Tripp, Tracy. Boys, I don't know if you saw Trip after that overtime winner. The clip that went viral.
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Keith Yandle
Credit for a couple hits on the game.
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Yan Stastny
Did it even go viral?
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Biz Nasty
Yeah, it did. It's tripper, dude. You know it did. Keith, don't be hating on Trip. Keith and Tripp have a little rivalry going. Kane's, Kane's Habs. And it's, it could get ugly when he comes on. And we have Blutman. Blutman, I would say, took over the Internet on a Sunday night, Memorial Day weekend. At least hockey Internet, because this guy went to the game and they're down three nothing. He's on the glass, but boom. Did he bring back that team from the dead? We're going to get chatting with him in a couple minutes, but I wanted to go over some league trends here. Biz G put these in just at the beginning to tee things up a little bit. We got right Now I'm saying teams with a 2:1 series leading a best of seven series in the round before the final, hold an all time series record of 92 and 28. So when looking at game three tonight, when looking at what's happening tonight, this is a big one. This is probably possibly going to show who's going to win this series. Another thing that's just crazy to me is the fact that ESPN and tnt, when they've had the Avalanche, they are regularly showing, when the AVs are leading going into the third period, they win. They have not lost this season. And when the AVS are up by two or more goals, they win. They have not lost the season. While both things have happened in the last two games, and we said they might be dead after game one, they're officially done.
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Keith Yandle
It's over, boys. It's the obituary.
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Biz Nasty
And I'm shocked. I mean, I obviously like the. I'm more shocked at the turnaround that Vegas has had and what they've turned into than I think I am on the ABs going down 3, 0. Because if you guys remember, this team was dead. They couldn't get a save all year. They trailed the second most amount of minutes in the league this year.
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Keith Yandle
Come back, kids.
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Biz Nasty
Goddamn Canucks trailed more than them and they were the worst team in the league. And then they fire their coach with a chance of missing the playoffs. And buddy, it's just been domination biz. It's a joke.
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Liam Blutman
It's a.
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Biz Nasty
You gotta just. I hate them. I hate them. I'm disgusted by this. But sometimes you gotta tip your cap man.
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Keith Yandle
And I have to, oh, buddy, these guys not only the right moves at the deadline, but just like even after the first round, you were like, oh, okay, these guys got something cooking. They got some steam going here. And there was a few shaky games for Carter Hart. And I'll always go back right now to crediting Tortorella for not pulling him and not deviating from the plan in that series. And ever since then, I think I read that nine. Well, now it's probably, I don't know about last night, but before last night it was nine of his last 10 starts, he had a save percentage of nine, 26 or higher. So Merle's kind of touched on just how confident he looks, how he's kicking, and then when he's in the zone, I mean, Yan's, you played with on this guy and is locked and loaded. And the sure enough, the one game where maybe he gets off to a little bit of a shaky start, lets up what three in the first or three in the first half of the game there and the offense all of a sudden comes storming back. And you also kind of felt like they were going to come back because Torts kind of. He. It felt like he lit the bench up when they called that, when they disallowed that goal, that cross checking goal. I don't know how you guys feel about that one. We could talk about this after. But he kind of brought that fire and he kind of went at the ref and Dorothea was actually sit sitting right in front of him and Dorothyv didn't say a word to the ref. All Dorothy of was doing was staring forward. He was worried about what the task at hand was. And the quote post game for Mitch Marner. He's like the boys didn't turn on each other. We didn't get yelling at each other.
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Biz Nasty
I thought that was. That was. I thought Merles and G believe that's directed at Old Maple Leaf's teammates. I think it's directed at the ABs a little bit and it probably just not directed at anyone and they just love each other.
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Keith Yandle
We're at the point in playoffs now where every single post game quote is being scrutinized, turned into something. It might not be going back to Bednar talking about Kale Maar wondering what he's going to have to say about Nate now if Nate's not playing like this is. This has gone completely off the rails more than anyone expected. Like yes. Did I expect this to be a series. And it goes back to the ABs fans too being like being like coin flip, coin flip. We're going to dumb. We're going to dummy and drum these guys. The cockiest fan base has cursed themselves. Oh it was. They're get. They're getting a taste of their own medicine right now. Now what did you guys make of that non goal. Were you guys. Did you guys think that was a goal? Yance.
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Yan Stastny
I thought. I thought it was a goal just from seeing it and then knowing. And then you saw Marner who's got some of the best vision in the league. Dorothea thinks he scores. I usually tell by how the player reacts or the teammates around him. That's why they don't need to call it if it's a no. If he waves no goal on the ice right the ref. So then they don't have enough evidence to overturn. Can they not just not make a call and be like okay let's review this. And then it's a 5050 type thing.
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Biz Nasty
I like this is what we said about the goal.
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Keith Yandle
Go upstairs. I don't know what happened. Go upstairs.
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Biz Nasty
Paling, was it? It was paling the goal. I went bananas on that. I was wrong about the oiler stuff. I think it is a rule. You got to make a call on the ice.
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Yan Stastny
Oh, you do? Okay.
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Biz Nasty
I think you do. Based on that, when it goes to replay, we need to have something that if it's not conclusive, we're going back to. But I'll agree with you that Dorothy have, like, the confidence he had. Like, hey, that hit my stick. That didn't hit my glove. But I'm pretty sure. And maybe I'm completely missing this Puerto Rican brain. Did it not. Was it not, in the end not called a goal because it was a high stick?
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Keith Yandle
That's what I thought. Okay, so what do you mean?
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Biz Nasty
No, that's. What.
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Yan Stastny
Well, Ray Ferraro said that the explanation that the ref gave torts was that it was because they didn't have enough evidence to overturn it.
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Keith Yandle
He didn't go pinkies up. He went thumbs up.
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Biz Nasty
Yeah. How about the fact that. That, you know, wind gets taken out of your sails, Boom, we get a big one there. And it didn't even slow them down. No, it's not like their composure.
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Keith Yandle
Colorado went right back and scored to make it right. Nothing. So that.
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Yan Stastny
That swing, very sickle.
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Keith Yandle
Oh, but. So that swing alone would have crumbled a mentally weak team. But once again, this Vegas team, they do not deviate. They do. They don't get down on themselves. They don't start turning on each other. And just an incredible, incredible comeback. I mean, the minute they scored that first one, I'm like, oh, here we go. Here we go. And I mean, you tweeted it out. I think it was right before playoffs, about April 1. April 1. Now April fools, now Murals now wants to take credit for.
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Biz Nasty
No, I tweeted out. If you're not questioning the Avalanche lynch goaltending going into playoffs, you don't know, Puck. I got crushed. Considering they are 300 winners, the Jennings winners. Right. And at the same time, I got to admit, I don't necessarily remember sending that tweet. It was late night. We were on another vacation shout out to vacation for the Whitney's. This one's no kids, though. This one's no kids. So you guys know, you know, Keith, you know, vacation, no kids.
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Yan Stastny
What's the only thing you pack? New sponsor.
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Biz Nasty
I'm not. Yeah, I'm not going to include that rouge yet. So I got I and I'LL go back to game two in this series. Like the Barbershev goal after Eichel tied up. Eichel's goal was incredible. And devontaves. I didn't like how he played that. Like he had a guy.
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Keith Yandle
You're going at Taves for that.
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Biz Nasty
I thought Michael won.
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Keith Yandle
I thought Wedgwood was off his angle, man.
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Yan Stastny
He was way off.
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Biz Nasty
Okay, I'm not all on tapes here, but, dude, he's. He's backing into the middle of the ice. He had coverage in the middle. Milinsky had come back. There was a forward, too, and Eichel returning. Eichel slowed it down, looking to pass, and then he's like, oh, wait, I got plenty of room. It was a perfect shot. Whatever angle off the Barbershev won, which people are telling me, you're ridiculous. That's Bar down. It's like, dude, it's out. It's the top of the circles.
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Keith Yandle
He's on his knees.
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Biz Nasty
Yeah, I don't. I just. I don't know. I just can't believe the way Colorado gets out into that lead and then their second period. Like, you, you, you. Game two, right? You got the one nothing lead, Everything's good. And Vegas takes over in the third. Well, this time, you actually. And the lucky thing was in game two, Vegas in the second period was trash. They were so lucky to go into the third period down one nothing. This time, you actually get three in the first. You win that call, that could have gone the other way easily. And then that happens in the second. But I'll tell you, we've always talked about fresh ice on the power play in the second period, and you're. That's a dream situation. And Marner, that pass. Now, mind you, also, Stone gets it. Stone comes back in the lineup, makes a big impact. His pinch on the Drury goal was the most belligerent pinch I've ever seen. He came flying in like a caveman, and I think. Was it Marner next to him like, what the. All of a sudden? Jury berries. But Stone comes back and he taps. I mean, not hard work on that one, but that pass and biz. I. I just. I didn't necessarily agree with you. That's when you were like, oh, this thing. They're coming back. You were that confident just on that one alone?
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Keith Yandle
Well, not only that, but because that. Bluntman texted Yan's in the group chat, and he said, I think it was. They were down three nothing. They said, yance, I need you to put on the comedy network. Right? Is that what it is Yance TNT?
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Yan Stastny
Because I was FaceTiming him the other day and I showed him my screens and he was like, why do you have TBS or TN T on? Because the games weren't on tnt. It was just like a random show. And so he made me turn my TV because I didn't. I only had just the one on. He made me turn the other one to tbs. So I got National Treasure with Nicholas Cage on up top left. Shout out Nick Cage, horrible actor.
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Biz Nasty
I think he's great in the room.
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Yan Stastny
I'm just kidding. So top. And then I'm like, why do. Why does this guy want me to. And then he changed his hat in between periods too. So shout out for him for going to buy another hat. But yeah, it's little things like that, the fandom when you're. Your team's down. And he needed a win bad, right? You're on the glass. Vegas flies you out there, gets you tickets. Like you got to show up for your squad. And he did and I was so happy for him.
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Biz Nasty
When did he do the siren? And we'll.
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Keith Yandle
After, after the second.
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Biz Nasty
Oh my God.
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Keith Yandle
Yeah, because they had the comedian Maniscalco.
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Yan Stastny
Is that how you say Sebastian, man?
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Keith Yandle
Sebastian Maniscalco did it. And I don't know. Have they ever done, have ever done a double siren or was that a special occasion for a comeback victory brought to you by.
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Yan Stastny
He must do it every period, right?
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Keith Yandle
I don't know, man.
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Yan Stastny
I want to believe that it was just for Blutman, but I don't know.
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Keith Yandle
They got him living for the rest of playoffs in the Dragon. There's like a little, there's a little cod up there.
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Yan Stastny
He looks like a Dragons keeper.
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Keith Yandle
Yes, he, I. And then it goes back like, I mean listen, it was a team effort. They have it all hands on deck right now. Like a huge goal from Kola star in which Manson, Manson was not happy. I guess you could say it was partially interference.
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Biz Nasty
Like buddy, it was the same penalty that, that Nelson had got called for. Yeah, so I didn't, I, I had, I, I agreed with Manson on that and just Manson just cross checking him. But then like Cole starts chirping him the entire way to the bench. Gets through the bench. Manson's right there. He's giving it to him again. It's a tie game. You're like Colorado is falling apart.
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Keith Yandle
Is there any worse feeling than when a fourth liner is. Gets a goal on you and has the upper hand and chirping you?
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Yan Stastny
Never.
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Biz Nasty
And I remember a time, I think it might have been it might have been Jansen. He's like, you're so soft. And I was just like, I want to fucking crawl to a hole right now like it is. But Manson isn't like Manson soft, but he got owned there. I mean, I do think though that if Nelson's getting called for that, it was the same thing. But I'll say Nichkin, we didn't even mention he didn't play the final 2:22 minutes. McKinnon's obviously banged up now. He went out at the end and what. What did we talk about Also with Colorado and Merle's brought it up. Give Merle's credit on this one. Their power play has not been good all year and. And that's probably what's really killed them the most. That and the goaltender here and Makar being out.
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Yan Stastny
I don't understand why they don't have nature on the side where Kadri is on right now. Coming downhill shooting. Like if Makar walks it. Because a lot of teams are just taking away McKinnon, right? They're going to cheat up to him. So if he can walk the middle, then give it a nature coming downhill. Natures has a shot opportunity or he's. He's really good at making that scene. Pass over to Nate. Like Kadri kind of just gets it. He's not really a one timer threat. He never really hits the one timer and he just like gets it and holds onto it and just slows everything down. Like I would put Natus over there and tell him, hey, dude, shoot pucks till you either kill somebody or you score a goal.
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Keith Yandle
He looked like he was drunk in the first a little bit there. Nature said. You see when he toe picked, he like lost the stick battle. Like toe picked.
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Biz Nasty
There was one elite cadre was s though.
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Keith Yandle
Oh yeah. He the saucer.
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Biz Nasty
Yeah.
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Keith Yandle
Yeah, he totally made up for the toe pick for sure.
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Biz Nasty
But. But also the second goal. So Carlson makes it 3, 2, Wedgwood. And I think it was this Sportsnet broadcast. They're like, he's punching it directly to the slot. Like that's a shot that he originally got. Was it Marner, I think, who just like that can be steered off into the corner. Maybe I'm. I'm not a goalie guy. No.
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Keith Yandle
It was a tough rebound and luckily his own guy got it. Once again, is there a worse feeling than when like it comes out like that and you try to make. He literally gave Carlson a one timer. I think it was. Was it Kelly 17.
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Eric Johnson
Parker Kelly.
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Yan Stastny
Parker Kelly.
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Keith Yandle
Yeah. He just put it on a tee for Carlson, and Carlson's kind of like, okay, fire it off. So it just felt like things were going bad to worse, and, yeah, it was a snowball effect.
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Yan Stastny
You got to give Vegas credit, too. Like, I mean, you mentioned it when. When Torts was flipping out. Like, they don't panic at all. There is zero panic in their game. If they're down, they don't give a shit. And you saw it, too, with Jack. Jack getting his first goal, and I think a month, like, how excited he was. Like, he knew, like, we needed that goal. And then you see his teammates come over, how excited they are for him. Like, this is a team that they know how to win, man. Like, they. They prove they can play the fast games against Utah. They prove they can play hard games. Like, this team's a real, real issue, and obviously, we're seeing it now with Colorado, and Colorado's obviously banged up. What every team is in. I don't know, man. Do you think they get swept?
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Eric Johnson
Like, it's over.
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Keith Yandle
I said it last night before the game.
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Biz Nasty
I think they're. If they get swept. All right, so then there's a couple things we can go into. First and ABS fans, you may hate us right now, but you got to look in the mirror. And if you were one of those. If you were one of those ABS fans who was saying, oh, my God, you think this is gonna be a series?
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Tripp Tracy
Yeah.
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Biz Nasty
Do you think we have any chance of losing? You gotta look in the mirror, and it's not over yet. But you' in one dot com. And when we go back to the statements about Makar, I texted the group when I immediately saw them, and I think army agreed. Keith, you agreed. It was kind of. It was weird by Bednar, I feel like.
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Keith Yandle
Really,
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Biz Nasty
dude, I don't know.
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Keith Yandle
All right, what's he supposed to say? What's he supposed to say?
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Biz Nasty
He can't play right now.
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Rear Admiral
Say nothing.
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Biz Nasty
He's not able to play right now. And saying, by the way, dude, I love Bednar like, that guy. Although I did see if he goes back to the shorter hair when they race.
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Keith Yandle
I know, but he's been ripping the bong too much.
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Biz Nasty
But he looks. The guy's a complete stallion, but he's like, you know, Kale's deciding when he can play. Kale's deciding when he could deal with the pain. And I. Buddy, I. I totally get what you're saying, Biz, but in terms of just, like, brushing it under the rug and making it not even a story, Was it not a bigger story than before the.
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Keith Yandle
After the press, buddy, when you, when you keep getting asked the same question over and over, you finally have the patience you need.
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Yan Stastny
You got to protect your guys, though.
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Rear Admiral
Take the Belichick playbook. Like, just, Just have a.
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Keith Yandle
What did he say that was wrong, boys?
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Biz Nasty
Everything say anything that was wrong.
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Keith Yandle
But he said, he's saying it's clear that the, the player who's dealing with this knows his own pain threshold. Like, if, if. If he's got a bad chicken win, and every time he goes out there and he's snapping the puck around, he's wincing, and he knows that guys like Bar, by the way, Vegas, I believe, right now has the top three hit leaders in all of playoffs between Cole, Smith, Kolasar, and Barbara Chev, who, by the way, as soon as Makar made his, like, first pass of the game, I know right away Barbara Chev was
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Biz Nasty
like, oh, right at the shoulder. He knew he's licking okay. So biz, like, yeah. And I.
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Keith Yandle
Ribs in his mouth.
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Biz Nasty
I think it was made to be more than it was, but it was just. I. I think there's a different quote that could be. Could be given, right?
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Keith Yandle
He gave all other answers before that. And then finally the reporter asked them one more time, and they're like, we got them. We. We got them.
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Biz Nasty
We got the story now.
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Keith Yandle
And, and, and. And also, if. Let's say you're. Let's say you're in that locker room, right? And you're like, obviously, we need this guy in order to win this series. Which, by the way, ABS Fans didn't think that that was the case. And you're maybe like, okay, he's got a bit of a separated shoulder. We're in this spot where we get a chance to win a Stanley Cup. Maybe that is him putting a little bit of pressure on his guy, saying, hey, like, shoot that thing up and, and let's get her pitter patter. Let's get out of here.
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Biz Nasty
Okay? Which is kind of what I was saying. I.
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Keith Yandle
But. But I'm saying is, like, is I. He. He never said it like that.
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Ryan Whitney
He.
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Keith Yandle
All he said is, Kale knows his own pain. He knows what he's dealing with. Like, that's. This is Kale's call. Just like, it would be anybody. Like, nobody. Nobody's forcing anybody to put the gear on and get out there. Other than Bud Kilmer.
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Biz Nasty
No.
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Yan Stastny
He probably realizes, too. Bednard realizes, like, I know we can't win without this guy, and I know I need him out There. And what's like the. And if you're hurt, you're not even doing media, right. So Makar isn't going out and answering questions.
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Biz Nasty
So it's like, man, yeah, I gotta say something.
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Yan Stastny
Yeah.
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Biz Nasty
It was just. It's just as things get. Get Got bad to worse after Game 2, and then you got that. And then the McKinnon injury. But we do have a special guest here. And before.
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Keith Yandle
Before we. Yeah, I was gonna say before we get to him. I. Do you wanna. Considering we're scrutinizing every quote and. And we're dissecting it, do you genuinely believe that Mitch's quote was directed at the Leafs? Or maybe. Or maybe even across the ice at.
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Biz Nasty
I think, if anything, if it was directed at anyone. Talk about just pulling stories out of thin air, which is what we're doing right now. I trul. Is that he was talking about how much that group loves each other, which you can tell. And any team up 3. 0 in the conference finals loves each other. How could you not? But the way it was worded after seeing clips of McKinnon. Very poopy pants in game one. Oh, yeah, right. He's kind of has the body language going that you could infer that it's like, well, that team, they do get a little mad at each other once in a while, and we don't over here in Vegas, and we're up three nothing, ready to go to our third fucking Stanley Cup Final in nine years in the league. And I'll say this, the quote by Torts, after last night, he goes, this is a game where we showed some balls. I want them to feel it for a little bit as far as what they just did against a really good hockey club. But then we get back to work tomorrow and Torts. He. It's the. It was like the perfect job for him. Come in right before battle, right? We're gonna get you into the war, and then we're going to battle, and I'm your guy. And they. They. They must love him.
- [23:49]
Keith Yandle
Oh, yeah. Small doses.
- [23:50]
Biz Nasty
And how could you not? And right now, Blutman's gonna come on, but I'll. I'll finish it off before he comes home with this. Since Torts came, this is a Gary Lawless tweet. Gary, Vegas is 184 and 1 in 22 games. 23. Excuse me. They've scored 89 goals, best in the NHL since March 30th. They've allowed 52 goals, second best in the NHL since March 30, plus 37 goal differential since March 30th. The best in the National Hockey League.
- [24:20]
Keith Yandle
So Blutman, by the way, at the pressure too. He dropped his nut sack on the desk. His tan. I heard that when he is his
- [24:28]
Biz Nasty
nuts act tan too.
- [24:29]
Keith Yandle
It's the most tan nutsack you've ever seen. It basically looks like dried up raisins at this point because of how much he's been tanning. But we got to bring in the all legend. Legend. Liam, what a run you've done everything
- [24:41]
Biz Nasty
coming up Blutman or what?
- [24:43]
Keith Yandle
Start of the year, dude, Tell me.
- [24:45]
Biz Nasty
Tell me right now though. Your thoughts as you get the. On the glass seats from the team and you're down three, nothing on the. He was there had to be a little panic. Dude.
- [24:55]
Liam Blutman
I. Yeah, yes. I was there before anyone showed up. They let me in there so early to just see the whole place and like, I got to see, you know, the castle dragon. Everything's crazy. Down three, nothing after one. I'm just seeing tweet after tweet after tweet, and I'm just. I'm embracing every tweet I see. Blackman curse. What you're saying? People are saying they gotta eject me. They gotta take me away from the arena.
- [25:21]
Biz Nasty
I never said to eject you.
- [25:23]
Yan Stastny
I wanted you to stay.
- [25:24]
Biz Nasty
That was army. My bad.
- [25:26]
Liam Blutman
That was. That was Colby.
- [25:27]
Biz Nasty
My bad.
- [25:27]
Ryan Whitney
Pull up.
- [25:27]
Keith Yandle
What's tweet?
- [25:29]
Biz Nasty
Great. My tweet was insane. It was the next second.
- [25:33]
Liam Blutman
What was your tweet?
- [25:35]
Biz Nasty
You didn't even see it. My tweet was holy. Blutman has completely mushed the abs. He changed the series on the glass. And I think, I. I swear to God, I think call Colorado. I mean, Vegas scored like 10 seconds later. I was like, holy. I. I mushed the plumbing.
- [25:51]
Keith Yandle
They saw. They saw it on the tablet, on the bench, and they. They all showed each other and they said, we need to get going here.
- [25:57]
Yan Stastny
This guy.
- [25:58]
Liam Blutman
But like, like, we're down three, nothing after one. And my thought was, like, you knew you were gonna get Colorado's best in that first period. It was going to be absolute desperation. You just didn't match it. But. And I was depressed and everything, but, like, there wasn't ever a part of me. I was like, this game's over. I. I texted you guys. I think, like, I think we can make this three, two. Going into the. Into the third, I texted my. My buddies who root for Vegas, like, I'm not giving up on this. I'm not giving up on this one. Stone scores immediately. I start doing this to wedgie.
- [26:32]
Yan Stastny
And you changed your hat after one.
- [26:34]
Liam Blutman
And I changed the hat. And you put a Comedy Central, TBS on, whatever. All the little things. This is the one thing. Like, winning a Stanley cup is so difficult. You guys playing the game know and understand, like, how truly difficult it is, but there's so much more to it than every player on the ice. It truly does takes. It takes a village. And we all got to play our part. I played my part in game three. Yandel, you play your part. Business doing his thing. Wait, you're doing your thing?
- [27:05]
Biz Nasty
I'm so sick of this. I can't believe that this team. I. I cannot believe. And you will not admit it, but if I told you they'd be up three nothing in the Western Conference final 23 days before the playoffs started, you would have said, you're crazy, and you know it and you won't admit it. But why would I admit it? Because you're a lunatic fan, which I respect is what makes hockey so special. Look at the AD fans. They didn't even think this would be a series. They're. You're everyone's lunatics. Look at when the Oilers are on. I almost had a brain aneurysm when I was yelling about the no goal against the Ducks. This is fandom. But you have to understand, that's what's happened in Vegas. This is beyond, like, your. Your wedgie little hand signal that you did. This is black magic.
- [27:52]
Keith Yandle
Oh, you were cursed
- [27:55]
Liam Blutman
fans to Ottinger.
- [27:57]
Biz Nasty
It's just crazy. Like, I. And. And showed out torts. But I. We haven't even really mentioned. I think Biz gave the stats, but they had their goalie. He's the fifth fastest goalie in NHL history to 20 playoff wins. Like, he's fucking unbeatable right now.
- [28:12]
Liam Blutman
I mean, so, like, Whit, I had texted you, I'd say, what, two months ago, two and a half months ago, in that group chat, saying, I've lost all confidence, I've lost all hope. Everything switches when. When they fire Cassidy and I, I. I gave them time. I wasn't gonna, like, go straight into it. We beat Vancouver and Calgary. Who cares? It was beating you guys. It was beating Edmonton, albeit, like, you're not at your best and everything, but that was the first one where I'm like, we're finally playing a different game, a different style. There's some passion there. There's life. They had been so stale. They'd been. It'd been such a slog from January to the middle of March, and then we Beat Colorado too. And I think the fourth or fifth game under torch and Colorado's got the league wrapped up at that point. Right. So it's whatever. But, but that meant a lot to us. I think the, the turning point in this, I mean we haven't lost since. But the turning point in this postseason has been game five against Anaheim is just completely stepping on their throat. They scored the late goal to force overtime and that's Eichel Cross creased the Dora Fayev and everything from there has changed. We've been dominant ever since, clicking ever since.
- [29:28]
Biz Nasty
And bloody. You called it last night before the game. You said, said William Carlson Cole. And Merles has said also. He is maybe the straw that stirs the drink with this team so much. He looks incredible.
- [29:42]
Liam Blutman
That's like when Dave was getting all the hate on Wake up Barstool for the bet. That's just that you remember, this is why it says we're going to get William Carlson back. He's coming back.
- [29:52]
Biz Nasty
Well then Gary told us he wasn't sure and he played six hours later.
- [29:56]
Liam Blutman
Yeah, Gary, Gary, you know, shout out to Mr. Lawless. He had a crazy quote last night too. I don't know if you saw that. You gotta go to his Twitter and find it because I don't remember it word for word, but he was losing
- [30:09]
Biz Nasty
his mind on the Dorothy of no goal. No, no.
- [30:14]
Liam Blutman
Just at the end of the game I think he said, holy fun.
- [30:19]
Keith Yandle
Okay.
- [30:21]
Rear Admiral
Gary's quote was, I get paid to talk, keep your money. I'm speechless. I've never seen anything like this.
- [30:27]
Keith Yandle
Wow.
- [30:28]
Yan Stastny
That guy would take a bullet for that.
- [30:30]
Biz Nasty
Everything's coming together and like. And Hurdle, who is a laughingstock. 40 games, that guy. And Malinsky, who's a hell of a player, he just bit outside. And the best part about it wasn't the toe drag or the move laterally. It was. He ripped that backhand as it was still moving to the right. It was like a one time backhand.
- [30:52]
Keith Yandle
It was like a dry saddle paddle. Bubble hockey paddle.
- [30:54]
Biz Nasty
Yeah. On a pass to himself. Another one where Wedgwood's caught leaning. And granted that was just an incredible goal, but they got that with what, eight minutes to go, maybe ten minutes to go. And I was like, oh my God, they do this. And you must have just been going, I, I can't imagine the Blutman heart rate, which doesn't go above 85 usually ever.
- [31:14]
Liam Blutman
Oh, they were grilling me about that. When Right before I was doing the Siren. The, the guy who plays the Night Mask. I was Are you hyped? Are you like, are you sure you're out? I'm like, they make fun of me for his all time. My heart rate always stays the same. But yes, I'm very excited. I'm very hyped up. This is a big deal. I understand it. Before Hurdle scored. I'd say it was a minute before Hurdle scored. I'm in the second seats. I'm just thinking myself. I mean, we're just going to go to overtime. And the only way that this story ends is if they score right in front of us and they start jumping into the boards in front with me and Luki. I thought that was the only way it was going to end.
- [31:52]
Biz Nasty
It's just an incredible run.
- [31:53]
Keith Yandle
Is that a common thing where somebody rings it before the third period too? Or was that a special occasion ring because you were in the building? Building.
- [32:01]
Liam Blutman
So they do. They do like a celebrity or an athlete for first period. Second period is a season ticket holder. Then third period is just anyone.
- [32:12]
Biz Nasty
You're not just anyone. You're not just anyone. I mean, I don't know if you guys caught the clip of Blutman's pump up speech to the UCLA football team.
- [32:19]
Keith Yandle
Oh yeah, outstanding. I signed up for Pop Runner.
- [32:22]
Biz Nasty
I could have ran through a brick wall after seeing that speech. And so no surprise, Vegas gets it done in the third. But Butman, you'll appreciate this one. I'm sure you might be aware, but I don't know if Biz and Keith are. So they had 13 blocks in game three. This article I read says that would give him 255 in the playoffs and 52 in this series. I think it might be a little less based on how I counted, but that was the article in the Athletic and it kind of became a story because Torts was asked about his saying in the room. He's like, what are you talking about? And they said, the boys say that you said that it hurts more if it goes by you. And he was hilarious. He's like, I never said that. Yeah, he was stone faced.
- [33:01]
Keith Yandle
Was he lying or was he telling the truth?
- [33:03]
Biz Nasty
Well, no, it turns out John Stevens had said it first, like joking around almost. But then the players took it as like a mantra. And I don't know if John Stevens was joking maybe like in a way, but it is true. Like, hey buddy, it, it hurts a lot more seeing the red light go on unless you're McKinnon and it hits you and you can't play the rest of the game. But they are blocking shots that is a tort staple right there.
- [33:24]
Keith Yandle
Dave King special too. Remember King?
- [33:27]
Yan Stastny
Loose pucks and ice bags.
- [33:28]
Keith Yandle
Loose pucks and ice bags. Especially. Especially if you're a PK coach, right? Because, like, that's when you really have to block shots. Now, buddy, that Vegas team, they are one of the best team at fronting pucks and getting in front of guys in front of the net and just eating them and eating them and eating them. And that's why, like you some of the moves they've made, like people all of a sudden, because they're so evil. And people are like, oh, they got handed that team on a silver platter because of the expansion draft. Like, people are just trying to drag this down. And the more.
- [34:00]
Biz Nasty
It's an easy to hate group.
- [34:02]
Keith Yandle
I know, but the more it happens and the more people hate. And even these Leafs fans still going after Mitch like, oh, he never performed, or they're still crying. Just let it go. It'll feel better if you just let it go and embrace it. It's.
- [34:16]
Ryan Whitney
It's.
- [34:17]
Keith Yandle
It. What it is is it's pure genius. From management to the moves they've made to the guys they brought in to things that other organizations wouldn't have done, done like Carter Hart probably could have been signed from other teams and people didn't want to go near it. Well, what do they do? They go. They don't give a fine jack eel.
- [34:36]
Biz Nasty
How.
- [34:36]
Keith Yandle
How did they pull that one out of their ass? They got that one done. They just keep getting it done. They keep getting it done.
- [34:42]
Biz Nasty
Don't forget that. There was probably some tampering on that Marner signing. You remember all that noise, you remember all that your team. But you know what? They got him. There was no penalty. Now in the process of this run, have they lost the second round draft pick and get coach 100k? They don't care.
- [34:59]
Keith Yandle
They're going to get it back. For letting Cassidy talk to a team,
- [35:02]
Biz Nasty
as Blutman says, he goes, the draft picks don't matter. They give us seven of them every single year and we'll keep moving them. So at some point, I'm pretty sure this team's going to be horrible. I don't know when, but when it does happen, we could celebrate it, but I can't not tip my cap right now. I can't do it. I have to be honest. And through my hatred as biz is saying, just. Just let it go and say, I hate you so much, but you're in that. You're going to be in the cup finals again. Nine years. They're going to be in three cup finals. And if they go on to win, Mitch Marner, who right now is leading the Con Smythe race.
- [35:37]
Ryan Whitney
I.
- [35:37]
Biz Nasty
Don't kid yourself.
- [35:38]
Keith Yandle
I was.
- [35:41]
Biz Nasty
If he goes and gets that Con Smythe and then gets the cup and brings it back to Toronto, that is something I can really get behind the script writers.
- [35:49]
Keith Yandle
The scriptwriters are exhausted. They're going to need a three like a four month layer playoff. They shouldn't even start the start of the season next year they. They should get the first 15 games off. And Bluntman, when you're at that cup party, can you apologize to him for me? From the bottom of my heart, I am so sorry for driving him out of Toronto.
- [36:07]
Biz Nasty
Maybe he'll end up like the win will have him be like, all right, biz. I don't care. Nothing.
- [36:13]
Rear Admiral
What are we talking?
- [36:13]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, no fired up guys in the world.
- [36:18]
Keith Yandle
I met you for midnight.
- [36:19]
Biz Nasty
We have a couple.
- [36:20]
Yan Stastny
Yeah.
- [36:20]
Biz Nasty
Itchy. Itchy for Mickey at the Puppet saying we do have a couple other guests. So I'll give you one final word or rant or what you want to get off your chest leading into game four.
- [36:29]
Liam Blutman
All right. I. I got my pillow here too. Where we're one win away from truly being the pillow fight champions of the world. Everyone was saying that we've got this easy path. Whatever, whatever. I don't care. Colorado gotta play la. Colorado gotta play a team that might be OT Merchants and this. So that needs more free space on the edge. Doesn't matter to me. This is an incredible team. There's been so many similarities to 2023. We've got the top three leaders in hits this postseason. Absolutely asserting our will, asserting our dominance. They're dominating the board battles. All the puck battles on the boards this series. They are dominating Colorado. I think that's a massive reason that we're up 3 0. We just wanted more. You mentioned the quote that Stevens created. I know Dylan Coughlin has been using that a lot. Few years ago it was hurts to win my thing. You gotta be lucky to be good. All these little mantras. It takes a village. We're all playing our part. We're all doing our thing. Last thing I want to say, they're keeping Colorado out of any high danger chances. I don't care what the analytics say when you're watching. They're really not getting great out on the perimeter. It's all easy for Carter to make some stage. I have to sing behind the glass is crazy too. I don't understand how these goalies do it. There's so much traffic.
- [37:50]
Yan Stastny
Yeah, it's how they see it.
- [37:52]
Liam Blutman
It's unbelievable.
- [37:54]
Biz Nasty
There's, there's the by the way, Alacino quote in, in that inch. And then there's Liam Blutman signing off. Spitting chicklet after being up three zero and, and one or one is. They're the same thing.
- [38:07]
Keith Yandle
Last one I got for him. Well, by the way, Couglin, he had an assistant plus two in 11 minutes played, came up with a big goal. I was going to ask you, from watching this team closely, we know the big names and a lot of them have stepped up throughout this playoff. But who's the one guy you don't think has gotten enough recognition, who's almost like the unsung hero where you're like wow, that was such a good ad. Or like who do you, who are you? Like, that's my, that's my guy who hasn't been getting enough credit. Who you can shout out right now.
- [38:38]
Liam Blutman
I mean you've done it with doubter, with what he's brought to the table. Someone who wasn't in acquisition just a day one guy, Brayan McNabb. I mean he was out for, for a few games, but that's a heart and soul player.
- [38:51]
Keith Yandle
Yeah.
- [38:52]
Liam Blutman
When, when I think about the cup team, I think about Alec Martinez and all the pucks that he ate. Brandon McDab, McNabb does the same thing. Having him out is such a big loss. It's crazy that we were able just win casually without him. But the, the, the presence that he makes you feel, the hits that he'll lay like Brandon McNabb is just a hard and soul guy. I, I probably have to say him. And you know what, Luki, point this out too. In warmups, Keegan Kolsar commanded the warmup like he's never coming.
- [39:23]
Biz Nasty
I can't do this. I can't do this right now.
- [39:29]
Liam Blutman
Keegan Kolsar commanded the warm up. It's something. You guys see him?
- [39:32]
Biz Nasty
Oh, he was the guy that passed to the half moon.
- [39:34]
Liam Blutman
Oh yeah.
- [39:35]
Biz Nasty
Like, oh yeah.
- [39:38]
Liam Blutman
They were having Congrats.
- [39:40]
Biz Nasty
Butman, get them off.
- [39:41]
Liam Blutman
Congrats team to see it. Thanks, guys. Also, you mentioned the athletics. Sorry, real quick. You mentioned the athletic. 28 of their experts picked the avalanche, one picked the night. So good for them. No knockey.
- [39:55]
Yan Stastny
Okay. All right.
- [39:56]
Biz Nasty
Bloody.
- [39:56]
Liam Blutman
We got up to win.
- [39:57]
Keith Yandle
Show us the pillow. What a guy.
- [40:01]
Liam Blutman
If I'm at a closeout game, I'm bringing a pillow.
- [40:04]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, yeah.
- [40:05]
Eric Johnson
See you.
- [40:05]
Biz Nasty
Bloody.
- [40:06]
Keith Yandle
Love you, buddy.
- [40:07]
Eric Johnson
Thank you.
- [40:07]
Biz Nasty
So much.
- [40:08]
Liam Blutman
Thank you.
- [40:09]
Biz Nasty
Bloody great guy. Just a ball of energy, too. You guys know bloody. You love bloody. How can you not even know if you hate your hate? You can hate him.
- [40:18]
Yan Stastny
Yeah. Hate us because they aim us.
- [40:19]
Biz Nasty
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Biz Nasty
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- [42:10]
Keith Yandle
If you think Trip.
- [42:11]
Eric Johnson
Oh.
- [42:11]
Keith Yandle
If you think Blutman likes to rinse his team's balls, wait till we get this guy on there's no way but
- [42:17]
Biz Nasty
this guy respects the opponents. I'm honest with you. Trip respects his opponents. Plutman doesn't. He's a sick, sick fan. Tripp is professional in a way. And bring him onto my screen right now because I got to ask him about that o Trip, that overtime celebration with you and your guy and, and correct me, what's his name again? I'm sorry but you guys were fired up and Biz said you got credit for the couple hits on the sheet.
- [42:40]
Keith Yandle
After you did you got a on the score sheet.
- [42:42]
Tripp Tracy
Well, good to see you guys. And when they introduced the, the booth camp am you know, I, I, I mean I had no idea it would turn into what it has and just being myself and when I appreciate you there and a pretty darn good looking setup in Puerto Rico. I mean I have all, I have always, you know, jumped in the trenches with the Hurricanes, but I pride myself on being objective. And you know, I sit here and think about when Keith Yandel during his Ironman streak. I can't remember he was playing for Florida at the time and he had to go get some dental work and I probably spent half a period when he returned in that game and rally singing his praises. So I appreciate you saying that. You know, you're in Puerto Rico. I'm thinking about the best player on Montreal through two games. It wasn't Puerto Rico, but another sunny locale. I spent a couple consecutive days with Josh Anderson in the Canes. Cool it. What a great guy in the Canes. Cool him off.
- [43:40]
Biz Nasty
I tell you, they did. Well they didn't because he had those two huge goals game in too. But they were able to come out with a win. I want to ask you this. The game, Game one. And we haven't even, we haven't been on since game one. So we have both games to talk about. I a meltdown but also like I totally got it. Like even though they scored quick like that many days off and slaving who never plays bad, having the worst game of his career. I get it. And we'll get into that game. But game two. Carolina dominated the game. But once I saw the numbers, some Canadians fans are saying it wasn't as bad as it maybe looked on the stat sheet. Do you agree with that or do you think that was complete Hurricanes domination?
- [44:21]
Tripp Tracy
I, you know, I'm back here in Montreal in the mail room right now and you know, I haven't been in a playoff series here in 20 years and blessed to call a couple of really good ones in 2002 and 2006. 2006, when the Hurricanes ended up winning the Stanley cup the first round down, they were down 2 nothing to these Montreal Canadiens. They started a rookie in Cam Ward when we came here. And the reason I bring that up is because I thought that even though the Hurricanes won in six, it took until Game 5 to show a semblance of what their game should look like. And you know, that's what encouraged me Most about Game 2 is that the Hurricanes game looked the way it was supposed to look. And you know, I, I probably put as much stock into that boys as I do with the fact that Ehlers
- [45:09]
Biz Nasty
found a way to win it in
- [45:10]
Tripp Tracy
overtime because you just don't have the Runway to, you know, in the case of 20 years ago, in my opinion, wait until game five. And so to see it look after the break, after how poorly it looked, especially defensively in game one, to look the way it did in game two, that made and makes me hold hopeful.
- [45:29]
Keith Yandle
That was probably one of the biggest story lines we talked about at the desk going into game two, where the guys making the money for Carolina had to step up. Right. I think it's been a little underwhelming for a host fetch and I think that Jarvis's game has picked up maybe the, the overall points haven't been there, but for Ehlers, like that big off season acquisition signing him to over 50 million and, and him getting those two goals and, and especially that OT one, he was very emotional after the game. I guess his father, father had, had traveled in for the game and, and gave him some very encouraging words beforehand before he left for the rink and he was, he was, he was very, very emotional. Post game in that interview, did he
- [46:09]
Biz Nasty
say what he, what he said to him or.
- [46:10]
Keith Yandle
No, no, he kept it between him. He just basically said, I think that, that you know, Ehlers was like fighting it a little bit. Right. He wants to contribute offensively. He, he loves this group of guys and even as we were doing the interview trip, a few guys were walking by and they kind of just gave him that like grab on the shoulder and you could just tell this group, group really loves one another.
- [46:29]
Tripp Tracy
Yeah boy, Ehlers. And if you want to circle back to the DIA line after biz because they're going to need to be particularly
- [46:38]
Biz Nasty
good on the road.
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Tripp Tracy
But I'll stick with, with Ehlers. You know, I remember either right before the Hurricane signed him and he chose Carolina because he had some big time suitors, I mean, and certainly think, you know, Right near the top of that list, the Washington Capitals. And you know, that's a big moment that Nikolai Ehlers chose the Hurricane Gaines. And I remember Paul Maurice calling me because Paul coached a lot of his career. And Paul told me, he said he's going to be a perfect fit. And the other thing that Paul told me and I think he referenced, I don't know if it was a regular season game or a playoff game, but he said, tripp, he has no problem when there's no room and things get physical. And he referenced, I think that Ehlers when he was a Jet, challenged Ryan Getzlaff at one point in time. Time. And you know, so you know, what I've liked most about Nikolai Ers is a. Carolina has had an abundance of trouble scoring big goals at big times and specifically historically in Eastern Conference final. But I've watched in the playoffs so far when teams try to get physical on him, he responds immediately and his game seems to elevate. So he's been a perfect fit. And it was on display for him to have that emotion and talking to your Turner Crew after the game been is. And to do it with his dad. There was a coach in Switzerland, Hines, I believe is his name, has been a forever coach and really a Danish legend. But to do it in front of the huge caniacs was. Was visibly meaningful to a guy that's fit in beautifully.
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Keith Yandle
And another thing too, like to not complain that he's on the third line. Like, I love how they're able to distribute and you know, they got two snowplows on that line. And Martinuk and Stahl, guys who can create space, win the board battles. But. But like for him to be put on that third line and not bitch it. It seems like that's a. That's a pretty selfless thing, right? For a guy who's making that much money and who's probably played top six most of his career.
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Biz Nasty
And quickly, quickly, Tripp, I just want to mention I was surprised that they went to Stall against Suzuki in game two. They didn't have it in game one. It was a kind of soft aho. It wasn't a hard line matchup. They go to Stall and I'm like, oh, geez. Which, by the way, stall's 37 years old and. And the way Brendam Moore talks about him, he calls him Jor, which cracks me up. Jordo. Yeah, Jordo. You just know what you're getting from him. But I think that's going to be a lot tougher than Suzuki Slavkovski and Caulfield playing against Ajo's line. Like, I'd much rather that if I'm them than the way Stahl can just clog it up.
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Tripp Tracy
Yeah, you may be in San Juan or wherever you are with, but you're dialed.
- [49:12]
Biz Nasty
I'm buzzing.
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Tripp Tracy
You're buzzing.
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Biz Nasty
I'm buzzing. And.
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Tripp Tracy
And so two quick things. Number one, I don't know if I shared it with you guys before, but what a story Vegas is. When the Hurricanes were in Vegas in October and I think Ehlers was just about pointless, I know he was goalless in October. In October, Paul Stassny, I have supreme respect for his hockey IQ and for him flat out as the first and played with Ehlers in Winnipeg. He sent me a text in October and said, tripper, I think that the best fit for healers is going to be with Jordan Stall and Jordan Martin Hook. And he explained why that was in October. So. So is when Paul Stassny says something to me, you know, I think you guys have either had EJ or you're going to have EJ on. I got to know guys like Eric Johnson and Paul Stassny and a Colorado Minnesota series I did about 10 years ago for NBC and Stasny's IQ is through the roof. So was he dead right? You bet he was. He said that in October. And with regards to the Aho line, that's why I think it's time, it's gotta be time right now because if I'm Marty San Luis with last chance change, you know, I am. I'm getting the Suzuki line away from Jordan Stahl and you know, Sebastian Ajo along with Jarvis and Svatchnikov. I actually thought they're better. The two games was game one in that route for Montreal. They were the one bright spot. They're going to have to be complete, period, end of story. If, especially if they spend a good amount of time against Suzuki Coffee and Slavkovsky.
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Yan Stastny
I was just going to say the, you know, you guys have held Montreal to five shots through two. Like when you look at a Carolina team and you know that they're playing well, they're playing the way that they need to do to win. It's the shot totals. They're going to get way more than the other team. They. I think they finished with 12, Montreal finished with 12. But like, you think they can do that on the road in a building like Montreal because it's a little bit tougher when you have last change, you know, to do it at home is a little Bit easier. But to do it on the road. You think they can go out and do that tonight?
- [51:10]
Tripp Tracy
No. As a matter of fact, I spent some time with Rod Brindmore and several members of the coaching staff last night when we arrived here in Montreal. And I know they anticipate that Montreal is going to have a higher shot volume. And Keith, my hope is that that's going to be a very good thing for Frederick Anderson. I mean, I look at game two in particular. You know, you almost have to have played the goaltending position to just recognize how incredibly hard it is is when you're not seeing any shots, you're looking down and you know, if you're not mentally strong, you're like, I don't want to be the weak link. Your mind can become the instantaneously the biggest enemy. And within that third period, I know Josh Anderson tied the game, but Freddy made some quality saves. And so I'm hoping, Keith, that that's going to springboard him here into, you know, out playing dovish here on the road because, yeah, I think like Rod Brindemore anticipates that that shot volume is going to be higher.
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Biz Nasty
I, I couldn't believe Svesnikov before game two said we were completely dominating them and we're going to dominate them.
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Keith Yandle
Yeah, that was a confident quote and love it.
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Biz Nasty
I was like, whoa. And then they went out and they, they, they, they did. I mean, they got the win. Now, the slot shots, as I read it, was 9 to 7 Carolina. So in terms of like the shot number, it was a little different, like grade A scoring chances. But another guy, my guy who was all over me after I picked Ottawa to win, then he texted me all over biz after Philly to win. Taylor hall, he has now taken out Sanderson in the Ottawa series, Sanheim in the Phillies series. And he gets Hudson with a good one now.
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Keith Yandle
Hudson's good.
- [52:46]
Biz Nasty
He's already on the ice. He was on the ice his standard 30 minutes before the Canadians this morning, but he's got that physicality to his game right now.
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Tripp Tracy
Okay, boys. You know, and how many private conversations have we had, okay, for years now about the hurricanes, you know, at this time of year, need to get heavier. They need to get tougher individually and as a group. And so far I haven't liked Halsey's games 1 and 2. Like I beyond loved, you know, every game against Ottawa and Philadelphia to the
- [53:19]
Keith Yandle
point where he almost, he got taken off that line for a couple shifts, I noticed.
- [53:23]
Tripp Tracy
Yeah, he did. You know, if I were to rank Carolina's lines in, in game two it would be be the stall line and then this X factor of a fourth line where you remember every millisecond that Jankowski, Carrier and Robinson are on the ice. With that being said even within, I need to see a relocation of Stan Coven, Blake and Hall here on the road tonight. Thus far he is the Sam Bennett of the playoffs for Carolina where he's not going to win any publicity contest contest with opposing fans. But is it desperately what Carolina has now need it? You bet your ass it is. And so I mean I, I'm, I think Taylor hall has, I think I've spoken to you guys about it before professionally, personally. He's already become and approaching 30 years one of my favorite Hurricanes. And that heaviness, that sandpaper, the fact that he's public enemy number one, he's Sam Bennett of the playoffs so far and I happen to be completely in love with that because it's been lacking in years. Pass.
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Yan Stastny
Another guy who's impressed me a lot and you know if you look at their back end you're probably not going to think of him first but Chatfield and yeah, the play that he made in, in the overtime game, just recognizing that Montreal needed to change the. I think it was Kaepernick who didn't get it deep. He just makes a nice little simple play getting it up. But he's been awesome all playoffs and I just want you to stroke him off a little bit with how good he's been for that, that group because he's not a lot of, he's not a guy that gets a ton of love.
- [54:54]
Keith Yandle
He often leads their team time which I found surprising too. I think he was plus three with two assists in game two as well.
- [55:03]
Tripp Tracy
The veterans that you guys are and you know I'm going to tell Jalen when I get on the bus to go to the hotel what you said, Keith, because not alone, not let alone from a former player, but a defenseman. I mean that's the strongest compliment that one can receive. Jalen Chadfield, the biggest praise that I can give Jalen, he's a pure Michigander, he's from Michigan like me, is that every game that he plays, I don't care if it's in the preseason or here, the conference final, he's trying to prove that he belongs in the National Hockey League and that is the most impressive thing. This is a great athlete, like a tremendous athlete that had a tremendous bounce back game and Jacob Slave and that's his partner. But every game that Chadfield plays with his preparation and his intensity aside from his God given talents. He's playing like he needs to show everyone that he belongs in the National Hockey League. And you know Carolina had a terrific start to that overtime period and if I had any concern if Montreal was going to win in overtime, it was going to be early and right from the stall line and the opening face off of overtime. The Hurricanes dominated the overtime period and Jalen Chadfield just did not allow Kapanen and company to take a breath. You know you got a couple defensemen including Dobson going for a change. He makes the play. I mean Jan Koler ski finishes this year shift in ideal fashion to get it to Ehlers and Ers ends the night. But Jalen Chaffield wasn't available along with another righty and Shawn Walker in the conference final against Florida last year. You know that's the Stanley cup championship. Florida team with the series have been different. Nobody will ever know. But I know you didn't have a chance when you didn't have Chadfield and Walker on the right side.
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Keith Yandle
Let's talk about I want to talk about slaving just a little bit more because like he was like he ate, ate it the game one and then has an unreal bounce back game and I Jackie Redmond interviewed him after the game and you don't often hear a lot of hockey players like talk about their faith and like he's pretty open about it and I would imagine being around him he just seems like the, the like the perfect person like the type of guy you want on a team and I just want you to talk about like what, what it's been like being around him and a guy who's obviously one of the best defensive defensemen the league and to have a bounce back game like that contribute offensively and and then have a post game interview like that biz.
- [57:23]
Tripp Tracy
I'll tell you a story I don't share very often but just over four years ago in April 2022 I missed a game drinking in New York. I haven't had a drink since the hurricane stood behind me and I flew back to Raleigh. Jacob flew with the team. They won the division that day night at Madison Square Garden. He flew back with the team. I stayed in New York and Jacob Slavin offered to fly back by himself to fly back to Raleigh with me. That's the type of person that Jacob is now as an analyst. So and aside from hockey he has been very central in my journey with regards to faith but as an Analyst, I think just as an analyst, I think that it is a colossal part of his defensive greatness. I mean, here I am in Montreal where, you know, he really put himself on the map in the Four nations with the first couple of games being in Montreal before going to Boston. And because his faith is so unshakable, he has an element of self belief in his ability that after a game that I simply haven't seen from number 74 as a Hurricane in game one, just as an analyst, that faith and depth to his self belief allows him to grab the moment and not let the moment grab him. So just breaking it down as an analyst, his faith that he speaks about so openly and is obviously his number one priority in life, just as a hockey player, I believe is his best asset aside from the fact that he's just a gifted athlete and he's a brilliant mind. But I think it's his faith that allows him to grab the moment, not let the moment grab him on, on most nights.
- [59:16]
Keith Yandle
Awesome.
- [59:17]
Biz Nasty
I, I, I love hearing that because it's all about taking away time and space. And then the first time you see him live, you're like, I think he's one of the fastest skaters in the league. Like people would laugh at that. Then you see him, you're like holy shit. And then gu about that. But I want to ask about another guy because I think if you, if you told Canes fans and hockey fans that they'd be 9 and 1 through the first 10 games of the playoffs and Aho would have three goals and two assists in those 10, two of which are empty netters, you, yeah, you'd say no way. Right. Like, and, and I'm wondering what obviously the Stankholm and Hall Blake line had really carried them and he didn't have to. To win the cup, he's going to have to have to. I'm wondering what you're seeing, is it gripping the stick because once it starts going bad, it snowballs a little. Like as an analyst, as you mentioned, what are you seeing that's that's different from his usual game?
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Tripp Tracy
I, I, I don't think that, Listen, he's one of the fiercest competitors that I've ever seen.
- [60:16]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, he's got some rat in him too.
- [60:17]
Tripp Tracy
He's pretty good. And which I love.
- [60:20]
Biz Nasty
Yeah.
- [60:20]
Tripp Tracy
And he, you know, but I think there is another level.
- [60:23]
Eric Johnson
Level.
- [60:24]
Tripp Tracy
And I think you've gotten to the point where it has to be there tonight. And when I look at Sebastian, like I just looked at the Face off numbers of of game two and Suzuki was 50%, Deno was 50%. I would take that for the rest of the series and run for the hills. When you look at the lefty and Deno and the righty and Suzuki, I bring that up because Sebastian Ao when he plays his best games, how he does in the face off circle is a direct barometer as to whether or not he's going to be on the score sheet, whether or not he's going to be complete and when he has played his best games. I mean he's, he's a minimum of 55% in the face off circle and when he's really rolling, he's north of that. He was in the 40s in game two. I didn't mind his game one and if he draws Suzuki, if Marty San Luis wants that, his mindset has got to be I'm not thinking about points. There is going to be no cheat in my game. It's a successful night if we keep that line off the board. And I always believe when you don't have cheat you produce more offense. And so that's five on five. I did think that the Hurricanes power play, the one they had in the second and then the third priority period took some positive steps. But I think there's a lot more room for guys like O, whoever's got the puck on the goal line for his group to attack the puck on their toes without hesitation as to see which power play is going to get going first in this series. So that's just touching upon what I'm looking for at 5 on 5 and also on the power play. It seems like he has the most confidence in any dimension right now. Shorthanded. Seems like he's created more chances shorthanded with Jarvis than he has in the other dimensions of the game.
- [62:12]
Liam Blutman
Game.
- [62:12]
Tripp Tracy
I think we've gotten to a point where he needs to be Sebastian Ajo. This is the team at, you know, the offer sheet was involved. He has a history against Montreal producing. The time's got to be now in my opinion.
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Keith Yandle
The last one I had is just like obviously if you get to the conference finals at some point in time you have to have Depp step up. And you mentioned them earlier that Jan Kowski, Robinson and and carry line like that. They are unbelievable. And you know they're a team that if you look most nights they're in the 11 minute range and every time they go out there and they make an impact, obviously they rewarded Jankowski, they just re upped them. But what is it about them that how are they able to have such good chemistry? And. And really, if they, you know, they have a few bad shifts, Ron will throw them out there and they're able to turn the tide. It seems like most times they go out there and they've obviously been producing offensively for this run.
- [63:07]
Tripp Tracy
Well, I think collectively biz that they can feel the trust and the value from the coach. I think that's a factor. And I looked at the sheet after the first period, after the second period, after the third period, and then when I went home on Saturday night and I swore they played more, that's how. That's to what degree I remembered every millisecond of every shift that they had. So quickly touching on all three guys will care. I mean, my gosh, has he been good when he won the Stanley cup with Vegas, no doubt about it. Hands down, his best series was the conference final against Dallas, where I thought he was a huge part of the Golden Knights even getting to the final where they beat Florida. So he's got a history in conference final. He's got a. It's a classic story that will carry a. Has said even his wife, being from Quebec, is rooting for the Montreal Canadiens. He's been outstanding. Eric Robinson, I still think is scratching the surface when you look at his size, his speed, ultra likeable teammate. I like the fact that he's shooting in stride from a distance here so far in this series.
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Biz Nasty
He flies.
- [64:13]
Tripp Tracy
He flies. And I like on dovish. I like that blocker location. You know, he scored there in game one. That's where Ehlers scored. That's where Jarvis scored. Jordan Stahl hit the post. But, you know, Robinson recognized, oh, about a week or two from free agency that the grass isn't greener because I think he would have made more in free agency. But it's tough to be in a spot where a coach believes in you like Rod Brindemore does in Eric Robinson. I think Eric Robinson realized that. What a signing that was. Speaking of signings, I thought it was really smart to extend Jankowski between series because he has had a ton of chances. He's had two goals taken off the board so far in these playoffs. And you never know. You guys played the game, you'd know better than me. But signing him, extending him, which I think is a great value for the Hurricanes, might settle those hands now that that's taken care of just enough that that could be the difference now that that extension is in place. So I thought that was really smart by the Hurricanes in his particular Case to get the Swiss army knife that he is extended between the second and now the conference final.
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Biz Nasty
Tripp. We appreciate it, buddy.
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Keith Yandle
Legend.
- [65:23]
Biz Nasty
It's going to be a good one. And Jankowski, I mean, he won the. He won it all at Providence. I remember seeing him then, and I was like, this kid's good and he's changed his game to be in the NHL, but a hell of a player. And the team looks good, but we'll see what happens at the bell Center. Montreal's 2 and 4, and the. I mean, the Canes haven't lost on the road yet, so we'll see if that stays true or Montreal can flip it. We appreciate it, buddy.
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Keith Yandle
I might have to come find you in the press box and get a couple shoulder checks, get on the score sheet tonight.
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Tripp Tracy
Trip biz do that. Thank you for having me, guys. And you're the best. Have a great, great day.
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Keith Yandle
You're the best, Trip.
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Biz Nasty
Before we get to Eric Johnson quickly, I just wanted to talk. Kapanen's out tonight, so it's already been announced. I think it sounds like Valeno's coming back in. But I was. I was reading the part of the press conference after game two that was interesting. It was in French. A reporter asked St. Louis about kind of the line that was out there for overtime.
- [66:19]
Ryan Whitney
It was short.
- [66:20]
Biz Nasty
Doc and Kapanen, now they were out there for the goal against. Against. In Tampa. They were out there for the OT winner against Tampa, game six. And then it happens again and I guess so. So St. Louis said, I don't know, but why are you asking me that? And then the reporter mentioned, like, well, you had the fourth line on the ice and either scored. He's like, yes, they were out there. And then he just got up and left. So, like, Marty wasn't happy with that.
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Keith Yandle
I think they mentioned it was the last question.
- [66:48]
Biz Nasty
Okay, that wasn't in the article that was coming.
- [66:50]
Keith Yandle
But hey, don't let. Hey, don't let the truth get.
- [66:52]
Biz Nasty
Don't let the truth get in the way.
- [66:54]
Keith Yandle
A little salt and pepper on bad boy. And then he spiked the water bottle in his face, the one that he grabbed from the desk on the way out. It was a body armor water bottle, by the way. But here's another thing, too. And I think this was brought up like. Like they had 12 shots on net. Like, it's not like anybody was going that unbelievable. And the bottom six for Montreal has been tremendous so far in this playoffs. Like, give me a break. Right?
- [67:19]
Biz Nasty
So, yeah, but you do have. But Kaepernan scored 22 goals. He hasn't looked like he's a little a fish out of water I think in games. And then that, that plus play like. I think it was like the third or fourth time a guy didn't get it deep in ot. Dude.
- [67:32]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, it's.
- [67:32]
Biz Nasty
That's a soft play right there.
- [67:34]
Keith Yandle
But also to be fair in like earlier in the playoffs when Doc made that mistake, they. After game two and they lost, they stuck with it coming home. So I would. I don't listen obviously it's like it's a. It's a different player. And maybe there were other things over the course of that game or the first few games where he was like to trying. Trying to tell him and still made the same repeated mistake. But you going back to the Tampa series, a little bit of contrast in the sense of reinstilling that confidence in a guy who made a mistake to. Now all of a sudden another guy's coming in.
- [68:06]
Yan Stastny
But yeah, I think that one like you can tell like he heard footsteps and he kind of got a little shaky instead of like you can tell as like a, you know, player, he just kind of got a little shaky and heard footsteps. Tried to get it in. Like that has to get in. But you know what we haven't talked about is the Blake toe pick. Like wait, you love, you love. It was right before the Anderson goal and then Halsey turned it over. Blake was skating up the ice blatantly by himself.
- [68:32]
Keith Yandle
That's right.
- [68:34]
Biz Nasty
It was an all time.
- [68:36]
Yan Stastny
I was glad they ended up winning the game because no one wants to be on that. That side of it. But a good toe pick. I thought I know you and Scuds love a good toe.
- [68:44]
Biz Nasty
And Anderson, by the way, they. That was like the sign of like what is Ajo doing? Anderson made a whole look like a
- [68:49]
Keith Yandle
10 year old in front of the
- [68:51]
Biz Nasty
net on that tying goal and Ajo
- [68:53]
Keith Yandle
tried to hit him.
- [68:55]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, that's not the play. I don't. I don't think you're trying to hit Anderson.
- [68:58]
Keith Yandle
Just go stick on stick. But Fridge guys a mutant. Hey, if you go back to the ers goal too, the first one, by the way, that was a fucking nasty goal. It looks like he almost toe picks but the fact that he's got a stick on the ice, it's almost like he uses it to stay up. Like if you go back and re. Watch that, it looks like he hits a rut and his toe goes into the ice. But he's able to keep his footing and. And he Goes right between the wickets on Caulfield and then slides at five hole on Dovish. So incredible goal. Incredible game by Ehlers. But, boys, we need to. We need to go to our next guest and essentially write an obituary.
- [69:34]
Biz Nasty
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Keith Yandle
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PFT Commenter
Holy.
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Keith Yandle
Taking a page.
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Biz Nasty
You look like an absolute retired legend right now.
- [71:32]
Eric Johnson
Ah, yeah. Just out in Santa Barbara, boys. Just little ATV in little Avocado picking. Life is good.
- [71:39]
Keith Yandle
Retirement. He's making his own mezcal.
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Biz Nasty
I'm in Puerto Rico. I'm in Puerto Rico. You're picking avocados. And where is that? Cali.
- [71:48]
Eric Johnson
Yeah. Monaco. You know what?
- [71:53]
Biz Nasty
He sounds sad.
- [71:54]
Keith Yandle
He is.
- [71:54]
Yan Stastny
No planning a golf trip for them.
- [71:57]
Keith Yandle
I think the horses are, are cheering him up. You must be doing something with the horses there.
- [72:01]
Eric Johnson
Yes, yes, yes. Going to San Anita today, boys. I got Malar Chuk named after Malar Chuk today. And the Sanita Gold Cop Summer.
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Biz Nasty
Great name for a horse. Dude, that's awesome. We got.
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Ryan Whitney
Yep.
- [72:13]
Eric Johnson
He's by Nyquist. So he's got a. He's running today at Santa Anita. So I'm going to pop down to Santa Anita for the afternoon and hopefully, hopefully cheer him home. But yeah, I am a little down right now for sure. That's, that's not how you draw it up if you're the abs and it's like I can, I could see how like you could maybe give him a pass if it's just a 4 to 3 loss or 5 to 3 loss. But the. When you're up 3 to nothing like that, like and then you lose with scoring five straight like that's, that's a tough way to lose, right? Like that's, that's tough. Like their, their. Their heart got ripped out of them last night. I, I don't see how you recover.
- [72:48]
Biz Nasty
And, and Bednar said after like yeah, the, the. Everyone's just so down in the room obviously. But I gotta go on the other side to you as a guy who played for Torts, is this not the perfect situation for him coming in and just like he's gotta flip it. You gotta get into the playoffs first. But there's not gonna be the camp Toralla. There's not gonna be the 82 game grind. It's just like him back in the boys it seems and you dealt with them in a different way. But do you not see how this fits in perfectly with like his personality and Persona as a coach?
- [73:21]
Eric Johnson
Absolutely. And I think I've talked to him a little bit down the stretch and I'm sure you've heard him say it in the media, but in Philly he kind of had to babysit a little bit. Right. Young team guys that didn't know how to navigate themselves through the league and he steps into a proven bonafide winning team that just needs. Needed a. A little bit of direction to steer the ship and that's what he's done. And his presence in Front of a team is so mesmerizing. Like, when he speaks, you're just like. And as far as I'm concerned, like, you are so locked in on what he's saying. And I find him so fascinating to listen to. When you go into a team like he has in Vegas, they just needed a little, like, a little tweak in the right direction. And, And I think he can wear out his welcome in certain situations, but I don't see it happening, because even if he's there long term, he's a guy that trusts the players. If he's, if they're in a situation where he's. They've earned his trust. And I think those guys have, based on what they've done in the past.
- [74:22]
Yan Stastny
Ej, do you think it has something to do with him being a. Like him. Him going into the Olympics and being an assistant coach and not having to be the head coach and just being a guy to, you know, be the shoulder to lean on, whatever. But it seems like every guy, when we talk to them after the Olympics, like, dude, he was unbelievable as an assistant coach, like, was there making jokes, having fun, like, you think it changed him a little bit or he's still the same guy?
- [74:46]
Tripp Tracy
I think he's the same guy, but
- [74:48]
Eric Johnson
I don't think he's the same guy he was 10 years ago, 20 years ago. Like, as, as a player, you have to evolve your career, and as a coach, you're no different. So what I think is. Is so amazing is he's. He found a way to stay sharp while he, I mean, let's face it, a month ago, a little over a month ago, he's, you know, eaten hot dogs on the ESPN panel with Butcher Grass and Levy.
- [75:13]
Biz Nasty
Right?
- [75:13]
Eric Johnson
And now he's coaching a team to maybe one win away from the Stanley Cup Final. Pretty, Pretty incredible. I don't think anyone saw towards coaching the NHL this year, especially when he got hired. And I'm, I'm really happy for him because I know he was still hungry for this, and you can tell he's pushing all the right buttons and his voice is not wearing out. I mean, these guys clearly love playing for him. It's obvious.
- [75:33]
Keith Yandle
So I gotta ask you, because you played for Bednar and people were trying to make a little bit of his quote with Kale Makar and, and, and how he phrased it about saying, it's basically Kale's decision. Now, what did you make of that? I thought personally it was a bit of a nothing burger that spiraled out of Control.
- [75:52]
Biz Nasty
Control.
- [75:52]
Keith Yandle
What do you think? Knowing Bednar and obviously knowing Kale Makar, I agree.
- [75:57]
Eric Johnson
Biz. I think this time of year, media is trying to find absolutely anything to run with. Right? I mean, I think, you know, they're trying to make something out of nothing there. Do I think that the abs worth saying maybe to themselves or in the back of their head, like, let's go, Kale. We might. We. We need you here. Like, maybe, maybe. I don't know that for sure. I'm just guessing, but I think. I don't think Bednar was trying to make a big deal out of it in the media. Wrong place, wrong time. Not how he operates. So for me, complete nothing burger, like you said. But at the same time, I think they were thinking, like, if we're going anywhere, we need you. You know, maybe that's the obvious, but maybe you missed the start of next season because you get a little more dinged up. Right now, who cares? Players that aren't going to win without Kale Makar. And you could tell obviously by watching last night, he's probably 70, 75% at best, but if that. Yeah, and. But that's better than a lot of guys best, right? So I think what a. What a steep hole to climb out of. I mean, they're all but done, but you never know, right? I mean, if a team can come back and. And win, it's. It's these guys. But probably no Nichin, probably no McCurdy. Do they go to Blackwood or. Sorry, not. No macar, but not 100% makar. Do they go to Blackwood? Do they stay with Wedgwood? I mean, a lot of balls up in the air right now. Tough, tough, tough. Sledding at Ads Land right now.
- [77:22]
Keith Yandle
1. One thing I just want to quickly say is. So you saw what Marner said after the game about how the group stays positive regardless of what situation they're in. And, you know, sometimes it's easier said when you're. When you have all the confidence in the world and everything is going your way. Way. I do feel like the Aves are a little tight and they're not really dealing with their adversity as well as. As Vegas is. Does sometimes Nate's intensity maybe rub guys the wrong way and force other guys to maybe grip their sticks a little tight? Like, I know we love him for his intensity and what he brings, but do you think that. That if. If they end up losing and. And getting beat out here in the conference final, do you think that's something that they maybe have to evaluate and work on in order to get themselves another cup in the near future.
- [78:11]
Eric Johnson
Great. Great question. And. And I think for me, Nate's not going to change, and I think that's part of what makes him great. As. As you all know. But they have enough counterbalance in that locker room to. To level that out. And, And I think a lot of it gets overblown with Nate because he's not just going to hide it in the public eye. He's not going to hide it because he's on camera or anything like that. But he. He can really uplift you and be a pop positive guy as well. I mean, he's. He's intense first, but there's a lot of layers to Nate that a lot of people don't see. And he's not just yelling and screaming at guys all the time. He, you know, he's. He's picking guys up when they're down, too. So I think they have Landiscog and Burns and Manson and Nelson and all these guys that can. That can do that for Nate. But he's just a guy that wears his heart on his sleeve. But I think you're looking at the ads now, and you're looking at their core. Like, they're getting a little bit older here. Like, how, how. How big is their window? I don't want to say it's closing, but it's not opening. Right. So, yeah, they're still in the window to win, but, I mean, this is just shot. You're so shocking to me. Like, you. If they. If they lost in seven, which, you know, that's. That's a, That's a stretch right now to happen. But if, say, say it was a back and forth. You know, teams traded with wins and, you know, went 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3. And they lose. Okay, so what. But when you get swept like this and lose game three like you did last night, I mean, a lot of questions have to be asked. And they've already played shake up the core card with rant and. Right. So they've. They've played that card. What's the next card they play if they still feel like their window's open, which I think it is. But what do they do? Is it. Is it the coach? Is it another core shakeup? Are they trying to tweak around the edges with guys? Guys, I don't know. They've revamped their goaltending. They traded ran in. What's the common denominator? I think Jared B. Is one of the best coaches in the NHL. He gets scooped up in one second if he gets fired. But where do they go from here if they get swept or losing five or whatever, you know, I mean, it's. It'll be interesting to see what happens.
- [80:15]
Keith Yandle
Like, as in, you think maybe they lead. Need a little bit more tougher love. Kind of like Vegas just got.
- [80:21]
Eric Johnson
I don't know what it is exactly. I think. I think Jared Bednar's a heck of a coach, but at. At the same time, if you go through the window of Le Cog, McKinnon and Makar and you only get one cup in that whole Avalanche era of. Of their greatness, I. I think that's a failure, right? And I. I don't pin it on Bednar. I think he's an awesome coach. But where do they go from here? If they lose in the conference final, which it looks like they probably will, you never. Never say never. You know, they could go on a historic comeback back, but what's the next move? I'm interested to hear what you guys think there, too, because, I don't know, you played the franchise player card like you did with Ran, and you shake up the core. You know, they.
- [81:06]
Tripp Tracy
They.
- [81:06]
Eric Johnson
They've done everything. What's next?
- [81:08]
Yan Stastny
Well, the. The Carl situation. That's what everyone's talking about.
- [81:11]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, that's Merl's.
- [81:12]
Keith Yandle
They're saying he's going to coach both teams.
- [81:16]
Eric Johnson
I didn't see that happening.
- [81:19]
Biz Nasty
Merle's saying that, oh, my God, you. Brer's let go, Carl doesn't have to move, and he takes over. Seems a little crazy, but you never know. I do think that this one's different because, yeah, like, Ron, it's gone. They've made all these moves, but in. Blutman said it, our guys, there's so much luck. You went through this. There's so much luck that you need to have Stanley Cup. And Makar, he's been banged up since before the playoffs. Now McKinnon's injured. Now, granted, it was in the. In a game where they're trying to stay alive in a series. Series. And there's just a bunch of, like, bad luck that it seems like they've dealt with, at least in the playoffs so far. So you looking at it like, well, if Makara's healthy, we're a completely different team. Or is it just like, everyone's battling injuries and. And we have to shake something up again? That's the question that'll be asked, but I just can't believe. And I know you ABS fans didn't think this would be a series like a lot of them. Shouldn't put everyone under the same umbrella. And I was like, I, I don't see how they're this confident going into this the way Vegas has looked, even though it was the Ducks and Utah.
- [82:24]
Tripp Tracy
Yeah.
- [82:24]
Eric Johnson
And I, I, I want to mention one other thing. You need goaltending in the playoffs. And if you get the hot hand like Vegas has gotten with Carter Har, I mean, his numbers are, are ridiculous. And that was the one thing missing from Vegas all season long. All their Metrics were top 10 throughout the entire league. They had the second worst or the worst five on five save percentage until Carter Hart came back. So they were just missing goaltending and they got heart. And the other thing Torts does is he can empower you and give you a ton of confidence. And that's what he's done with Carter Hart. I know he went in there and said, heartsy, you're my guy. You're our number one guy. If we're going anywhere, it's because of you. And you could totally tell Carter Hart's plane. Like, he knows how valuable he is to that team. And that's what Torts can do. He can tear you down, but he can also build you up. And so, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's. I didn't think it would be a sweep or Vegas in five, which it's looking like, that's probably what it's going to be. I mean, I thought Colorado would win in six, but Colorado's not getting the saves. Vegas is. Colorado's power play has not looked good, and McCarr's at 70%. And now you're probably looking at Bill McKinnon next game. I guarantee you he feels worse right now, this morning than he, as you guys know, that he did.
- [83:41]
Keith Yandle
Last Norma text to are going to fix.
- [83:44]
Eric Johnson
No, exactly. He went in, got the shot, tried to come out, but I don't know if you saw the play when he came back and he got the puck coming out of his zone into the neutral zone, and he's usually gone. And in two steps, I mean, he was like, swallowed up by the Vegas attack. Like, you could just tell he didn't have that separation and that burst. Like, he for sure took it on top of the knee. And if it's a fractured kneecap or patella or something, like, you just, you can, I've had that. It sucks. You just, you don't have, you, you have nothing. If, if that's what it is. I'm speculating, but even a deep bone bruise, it's. Yeah. Same thing.
- [84:18]
Biz Nasty
Can't even put the weight on it.
- [84:20]
Eric Johnson
It's.
- [84:20]
Biz Nasty
It's. And yeah, his pop is what makes him like so dominant. It's just, it's crazy. It's crazy what's happened.
- [84:29]
Keith Yandle
So you're going to be traveling for the finals with espn, Correct. You guys are going to be on the road?
- [84:33]
Yan Stastny
Yep.
- [84:34]
Liam Blutman
Yep.
- [84:34]
Keith Yandle
Okay. So you're. I'm sure you're going to be fired up now. We do have to get to a rollback. Last question. But I'll ask one right beforehand. Hand you mentioned.
- [84:41]
Biz Nasty
Let me do it before your question, buddy.
- [84:43]
Keith Yandle
Well, mine's not hockey related, so if you want. Okay. Sure. Ahead. Go ahead.
- [84:47]
Biz Nasty
That's okay. Rollback. Last question. Use code chicklets on roback.com for a generous 20 off your first purchase at the end of the week. This is a robot golf shirt, flowers on it. I may not pull it off, but some good looking people could pull E.J.
- [84:58]
Keith Yandle
could pull this thing off.
- [84:59]
Biz Nasty
Good on you. C-I C L E T S on R H O-B-A C K.com 20% off. Polos, hoodies, joggers and more. Code chicklets on robot. Go ahead, Biz.
- [85:09]
Keith Yandle
So any new listeners we have, we actually had Clint Mil Chuk on our podcast, Incredible story of resilience and what he's doing now with the ranch and helping former military, anybody who's really struggling get through whatever they need to ra actually went there for about 10 days. You mentioned you have a horse named after him. How. What's the backstory to that?
- [85:32]
Eric Johnson
Yeah, so we bought this horse last July out of an auction. And, and his, his sire, his father is Nyquist and the guy I bought him with, his name's Paul Rham. He owned Nyquist and Nyquist won the Kentucky Derby and so Nyquist has turned into one of the best stallions in the world. And so this horse came up for sale. Paul likes to buy Sons of Nyquist since he raced Nyquist and asked me to take a. A quarter share in the horse and I did. And he, he battled some injury issues when we bought him in July, but now he's coming back and doing pretty well. So. So we're optimistic today and he's the morning line favorite, so $200,000 pot and we're hoping to take it home today. Yeah.
- [86:15]
Keith Yandle
And. And is like. Because he's battled through these injuries and he's on the other side. Is that why you named Him Malarchuk.
- [86:21]
Tripp Tracy
Sorry, sorry.
- [86:22]
Yan Stastny
He was probably named.
- [86:23]
Eric Johnson
He was already named. Yeah, he was already named. Someone named him, bought him out of a sale, named him Malarchuk with the Nyquist hockey tie in. Excuse me. And so we just bought him after he was named. Someone put him in a sale after he had raised and we bought him. And the. It's a great name and we, we hope that he's got a big, big summer and maybe it's Saratoga and Delmare.
- [86:45]
Keith Yandle
I am so intrigued by all the horse stuff. Like I follow Dave Portnoy on We
- [86:49]
Biz Nasty
gotta get Portnoy and EJ connected.
- [86:51]
Keith Yandle
Oh yeah.
- [86:52]
Biz Nasty
EJ's Die Hard and obviously Dave's huge into the ponies, but I. You've been crushing her on McAfee and I saw one of the. I think it was a clip on there. Where. Or maybe somewhere else. Somebody asked you like, oh, as your horse. Horse like won the Derby or something. You're like, that's like asking a golfer if he's like won the Masters.
- [87:08]
Eric Johnson
Yeah.
- [87:09]
Biz Nasty
I don't think people understand how like the levels it takes and the. Obviously same with the cup, the luck it takes.
- [87:14]
Keith Yandle
Well, there's only 20 that run and you have to do it before you turn four.
- [87:20]
Eric Johnson
Only three year olds. So you get one shot at it. You're a three year old colt or a Philly, they do run Phillies in it. But you're. You have one shot. You have one shot.
- [87:28]
Biz Nasty
Are you able to get into the race based on obviously prior races and placing or winning? Winning, like almost a circuit to get into.
- [87:36]
Keith Yandle
It used to be like that where now you have to qualify for the race.
- [87:40]
Yan Stastny
Exactly.
- [87:41]
Eric Johnson
It used to be based on earnings. Now it's a tiered point system. So there's races from October up until the Derby where you qualify with points and the top 20 horses with the most points get in. So if you finish first in a big race, you'll get 50 points. If you finish second, you'll get 20. If you finish third, you get 10. And then, you know, the top 20 with the most points qualify to get in. So it's, it's tough. It's. You know, they say the, the best way to become a millionaire in the horse business is to start with a billion.
- [88:12]
Biz Nasty
So that's what Dave Porto says. He's like, I'm poor for this game.
- [88:16]
Eric Johnson
Oh yeah.
- [88:17]
Biz Nasty
The amount of money these guys have. So that's where the luck comes in. Now what is Malarchuk a two year old?
- [88:22]
Eric Johnson
He's five. He's five. So he's yeah, he's, he's an older horse, but your tour. Exactly. Million dollar races he can win down the road here. But it's called the, the Hollywood Gold cup and it's at San Anita. It's in the fifth race today, so, so I'll be there. I'll be there live on site. I'm pumped. I can't wait.
- [88:42]
Keith Yandle
The, the quote from McAfee where I was like, damn, this could be something I'd like try to get into, but I'd be like running greyhounds because I can't afford horses was like. To see your horse coming around the tour turn and winning a race is like the feeling you would get from scoring like an OT winner or a game. Winning golf, like in your own career.
- [89:01]
Eric Johnson
I, I can't, I can't relate it close enough. Like these two things and you guys all know you score a huge goal and a big moment, you get in a big fight, you take a, you know, you win a huge game. It is so close. If you have the horse bug and you love horse racing, I can't even describe how close the feeling is to, to the same as scoring a goal or like literally winning the Stanley cup and then seeing your horse win. It's like some people have the exact same feeling. I mean, the Cup's a little bit better, but that adrenaline rush between the two sports is, is, is amazing. It's, it's a, it's a adrenaline junkie sport for sure.
- [89:38]
Yan Stastny
And it's a team sport too. Right? It's not just the horse and the jockey out there. Like everyone's always thanking the trainers, thanking the owner. Like it's a complete team at effort.
- [89:47]
Eric Johnson
Just like I could go down the line, Yan's. About how many people it takes to get there. From the boarding farm to the vet, to the van company to the trainer, to the groom, to the blacksmith, to the chiropractor, to the jockey to the jockey agent. I mean, you could go down the list of people. I'm. It's a multi billion dollar industry and it's, it supplies so many jobs around the country and it's, it's the oldest sport in America and you know, it's. I try to get people involved in the game and it's, you got to love it though. I mean, it's, it's. You're going to have your pitfalls and it's a money pit, but it's, it's a total blast.
- [90:25]
Biz Nasty
So when you say, I mean you made, you know, just about 65, $66 million in your career. Have you put, like, a cap.
- [90:33]
Keith Yandle
All right.
- [90:33]
Biz Nasty
I could spend this much on horses, and then that's it.
- [90:36]
Eric Johnson
Like, I try not to think about it.
- [90:38]
Biz Nasty
Okay.
- [90:39]
Yan Stastny
Smart, smart.
- [90:40]
Biz Nasty
I shouldn't have brought that up.
- [90:42]
Eric Johnson
Yeah, Yeah. I got good accountants.
- [90:44]
Keith Yandle
Yeah.
- [90:44]
Biz Nasty
All right.
- [90:46]
Keith Yandle
Bag. You get the. You get the. The hoofs.
- [90:48]
Biz Nasty
I got no surprise, buddy, as ESPN has the finals. You've. You've come on like a lightning bolt with coverage, dude. You're really good at it. So good luck.
- [90:59]
Eric Johnson
Good luck.
- [91:01]
Biz Nasty
And with the race today.
- [91:02]
Eric Johnson
Thanks, guys. Appreciate you.
- [91:04]
Biz Nasty
See you, bud.
- [91:05]
Keith Yandle
You're the best.
- [91:05]
Yan Stastny
See you, Horn. Good luck today.
- [91:08]
Biz Nasty
Big horn.
- [91:08]
Keith Yandle
What a guy.
- [91:09]
Biz Nasty
Great guy. Great guy. He's all into the pony. What a setup. He's on a beautiful golf range. He's going to the racetrack today. Jesus. Business.
- [91:16]
Keith Yandle
Some guys get it all.
- [91:17]
Biz Nasty
I know you got the big rope hockey daddies.
- [91:22]
Yan Stastny
Hey, what he said it takes to get a horse ready. It sound like biz getting ready to do a TNT game. It's like, you need the chiropractors, the blacksmith, the. The room serves. The room serving service. The room service lady.
- [91:35]
Biz Nasty
This is getting his shoes just belted into his foot like a black tnt.
- [91:40]
Keith Yandle
We were texted last night because, could you tell the Blutman story, like, about the love?
- [91:47]
Biz Nasty
Which one?
- [91:48]
Yan Stastny
Oh, me? Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh. I was FaceTime with Blutman. I'm like, he's sitting there with his brother, and his. His thing is, he. He'll never tell you that he loves you.
- [91:57]
Keith Yandle
He's not an emotional guy. He doesn't show his emotional emotions.
- [91:59]
Biz Nasty
No.
- [92:00]
Yan Stastny
And he. He was sitting there with his brother, and I had never met his brother. We're on FaceTime. And I was like, oh, that's pretty cool. You guys live together. I go, you guys must love each other. And Liam goes, no. I go, wait, you don't love your brother? He's like, no. He's like, I appreciate him.
- [92:16]
Keith Yandle
And I was like, that's crazy, because, like, I'll tell the. I'll tell the. The girl who brings the food up. What do you call them? The help me out.
- [92:24]
Biz Nasty
What up, girl? A waitress?
- [92:25]
Keith Yandle
No, the room service guy. I'll be like, love you, bud. Like, thanks for cleaning late. Love you, bud. So it's just weird how he has a. Like a. He's unable to tap into his emotions like that.
- [92:38]
Eric Johnson
Where.
- [92:39]
Keith Yandle
If you, like, remember when we had that golf match against Bob Does. That comes out soon. And. And we.
- [92:45]
Yan Stastny
20, 30.
- [92:46]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, we. And we. And we try to give him a hug. He'll Just keep his arms to his side. He will not hug you back.
- [92:53]
Biz Nasty
Very uncomfortable.
- [92:54]
Keith Yandle
It's so uncomfortable.
- [92:56]
Biz Nasty
So like, if he, if he was in the NHL and scored a goal like you, you'd be like, something's wrong with this guy. Like he just, he'd be given that Wedgwood like death hand signal he had to his teammates trying to hug him after a beautiful game.
- [93:09]
Rear Admiral
He won't shake hands either. Isn't he like a huge germaphobe and like won't even.
- [93:13]
Keith Yandle
Howie Mandel.
- [93:14]
Yan Stastny
He's a, he's a Canadian.
- [93:16]
Biz Nasty
He's. He's a, he's a, he's a public speaker. He's in. What's the word when you get people?
- [93:21]
Keith Yandle
Motivational speaker.
- [93:22]
Biz Nasty
He's a motivational speaker. Guys, like, let's lay off them. Lay off them. We got another motivational speaker, the Rear Admiral. He's coming on. Let's bring him in right now.
- [93:41]
Yan Stastny
Hello,
- [93:44]
Ryan Whitney
everybody. Welcome to Ari's World here on the Spitting Chickens podcast. Miss you guys last time out. I know there's a few games being played, but we got to stroke Vegas off a little bit bit more. 5th comeback win of the postseason. Right. First time they rallied back from a three goal deficit in playoff history for them Eichel at another level. But the difference to me, Vegas is doing great. Forcing them sell a lot of errors but decrease right now in the series. Wedgwood say percentage 876hot941. That's the difference right now all three games have essentially been one goal games because they've been empty netted. So things have been tight. Power play is pretty much a wash. Colorado one for nine. Vegas two for nine. But I like this quote from, from Mana Biz. I'm not sure if you're sorry yet monor on the comeback quote. We have an older group that just stays patient and stays calm. We don't turn on each other. We don't get mad at each other. I, I was like, I didn't hear that one. I didn't hear the audio. But like, but like that's gonna be set in all, all the com.
- [94:38]
Biz Nasty
You think he's talking to Colorado or Toronto already?
- [94:41]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, I, I think like Toronto fans are going to take that personal 100%. Yeah. You know, Absolutely.
- [94:46]
Keith Yandle
But wait, what direct shot to. To. To the, to province of Ontario.
- [94:51]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, Keith, he said we, we have an older group that just stays patient and stays calm. We don't turn on each other. We don't get mad at each other.
- [94:58]
Keith Yandle
I mean c. The clip from the Bench when him, Nylander and Matthews were going at one other, I'm assuming. Right?
- [95:04]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure down Toronto Twitter is out, out of control. But.
- [95:08]
Biz Nasty
Well, I saw Nylander's just ripping up the Montreal Grand Prix all week weekend.
- [95:12]
Keith Yandle
Oh yeah, he's getting. He's getting it on the. For check. Ra. Like I will say the. The. The idiots in Toronto who are still kind of like trying to dog him somehow. It's embarrassing. They need to come to the dark side. Like me. Like I hand up I was a idiot. Like I was totally wrong. Like Mitch Marner is a playoff God at this point and they need to start glazing him and give him his pro phrase like everybody else who's turned the page is doing right now. So how do you feel about it?
- [95:44]
Ryan Whitney
I mean like I tweeted last week that I think he might have the. The best highlight goal of the playoffs and the best highlight assist of the playoffs, like arguably.
- [95:51]
Keith Yandle
And the best highlight quote that we hadn't heard.
- [95:54]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that. That as well. But going back, that tames goal the other night though. Even though last night that Colorado lost. I thought that was maybe the best two passes leading to a goal. I've seen all playoffs. Like the stretch pass up the middle from the Manson and then Nate just did that little twirl. I mean that was just.
- [96:10]
Biz Nasty
How about the move Manson did behind the net? It was wicked soft little fake past the right corner and like that was sick play. And then he tried cross. Who did he try cross checking in that game too?
- [96:21]
Yan Stastny
Everyone.
- [96:23]
Biz Nasty
That was. Yeah, that was the game before, I guess. Oh yeah.
- [96:26]
Ryan Whitney
I was taking a look at the con Smite dogs. Minor is the chalk right now. Plus 180. Freddy plus 5. 50. 50. But a few days ago Carhartt was 40 to 1. I guess he was 80 to 1 like a week ago. He's still 30 to 1 right now.
- [96:38]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, I don't think the league's given Carter. Carter Hart could get a shutout the next five games and he ain't getting the odds.
- [96:45]
Ryan Whitney
Make us know who. Who votes on it. But till Hall 10 to 1, Blake 11. $1 13. There's some good price out there. I mean like last year, right? I think I got Benedict maybe 20 to 22 to 1 last year because if a guy has a good run in the finals, man, that, that's going to give him much more, you know, credence for the concept. Mito, I got this question from a. A Twitter follow, Cody Mallette. Hey, Ar A playoff beard still a thing for players or did they kind of fall out of tradition? I seem to remember a bigger emphasis on them when I was a kid. And I've been kind of looking at some faces and. And I don't know, is this maybe.
- [97:16]
Keith Yandle
Ke's gone young league's young man.
- [97:19]
Yan Stastny
Some guys can't grow the beard even like you look at some guys that just. Who wrote low T?
- [97:24]
Keith Yandle
That's G. Low T the boys are.
- [97:26]
Biz Nasty
You think it's a low T league G? No. That's what I tell.
- [97:30]
Tripp Tracy
It's just grow a beard yet either.
- [97:32]
Rear Admiral
So I' telling myself it's illegal.
- [97:34]
Biz Nasty
Gee, aren't you 30? How old are you?
- [97:36]
Rear Admiral
33.
- [97:37]
Keith Yandle
Kids.
- [97:37]
Biz Nasty
It ain't coming, but I think that
- [97:41]
Keith Yandle
they started putting soy milk in the coffee stand too. That probably has a little bit. Yeah, that guy's getting those. Those titties.
- [97:50]
Ryan Whitney
I know. This is something I bitched about before. I'm gonna again. I. I hate this. No matter what team, what country, whatever. When they do national anthems and fans do this, like, callback like. Like they're at a rap concert like, of something like. Like Carolina does it. Dallas does.
- [98:02]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, they say red.
- [98:03]
Ryan Whitney
When they say the red part again, any. It's not because it's usa, it's just shut the up. That's the stand up.
- [98:09]
Keith Yandle
Okay, well, time out. Time out. So are you not down. Are you not down with when Chicago claps and gets louder and louder as the whole.
- [98:18]
Ryan Whitney
You know what? That's probably the lone exception with like, noise during the end, because the way
- [98:22]
Keith Yandle
they literally do it, the entire anthem,
- [98:23]
Ryan Whitney
and I believe that started during the first Gulf War in the early. The early 90s, if I'm not mistaken. So it was, you know, obviously time speaks for itself. And I think that sort of is like baked into that tradition. So. And I've been there, man, and it is. It is quite a thing. But I don't call him back, you know, like, you know, a word or even like a corporate name. It's just. I don't know. I didn't just
- [98:45]
Biz Nasty
Dallas yelling stars. And. And this is, you know, coming from a guy. Ryder was 5. He's taking his hat off, putting it over his heart for the. For the, you know, the anthem. But I. I don't think it's as big of a deal as you do. I feel like the. The fans respect the anthem and it's just.
- [99:01]
Keith Yandle
And it means they're paying attention.
- [99:03]
Ryan Whitney
They're into it a little bit of Abe Simpson, old man yells at Cloud Maybe, but I don't know. I'm just. Maybe it's just old school and I just. I raised it. You know. You keep emotional.
- [99:11]
Yan Stastny
The Panthers still yell Knight for Spencer Knight. They still yell Knight.
- [99:16]
Keith Yandle
No, they don't.
- [99:17]
Yan Stastny
I swear to God.
- [99:18]
Biz Nasty
Okay, that's. That's.
- [99:19]
Keith Yandle
They should be kicked out of the league.
- [99:20]
Biz Nasty
Not even on the fraking team.
- [99:22]
Ryan Whitney
They know take away their six round pick.
- [99:24]
Keith Yandle
Should we put up a Twitter poll for. For RA Maybe clip that and put up a Twitter poll. I mean, I don't know. I'd be curious to know how many people that it grinds their gears.
- [99:32]
Biz Nasty
I'm guessing that's going to be a low percentage probably for R.A. i'm like
- [99:37]
Ryan Whitney
Jesse James on Twitter, so I don't think I'll get much support there.
- [99:40]
Keith Yandle
Bad boy.
- [99:41]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah. Hey, I want to say congrats to my pal Hannah Brant. She retired last week, played five pro seasons including the last two here with Boston of the PW. Uhl, this resume unreal. She won Olympic gold in 2018 Olympic silver in 2022. Three World Championship golds, two World Championship silvers. U18 World Championship gold. And when she was at the University of Minnesota she went three national championships in four years. Was the frozen four most outstanding player her junior year when she scored the title winning goal versus Harvard. And the other year they lost in the final. So great kid. I got friendly with her when she played here in Boston through our friend Kelly Babson stock. So shout out to Hannah. Enjoy retirement, my friend.
- [100:20]
Keith Yandle
I'm glad you brought up the ladies already. I want to shout out Aaron Ambrose. She's won a national championship. She's won an Olympic gold medal. A world championship gold. And then she just won the the PWHL with the the Montreal Victoire. And on top of that, Marie Philip Poulain who was the captain and won it with the Montreal Victoria McToir. She's. She has a girlfriend on the team. So heated rivalry.
- [100:49]
Biz Nasty
Hold our drink on the team they beat Ottawa on same team with same team and they're.
- [100:55]
Keith Yandle
And then they did like a photo op after like boys the pwhl. ESPN better clean up their act right R. Oh yeah, you better get them on the goddamn website. But I know who they're making move.
- [101:08]
Ryan Whitney
But I know who won the chess tournament last week though these. I got that biz.
- [101:11]
Keith Yandle
I hear you buddy.
- [101:12]
Biz Nasty
Popular as oh buddy.
- [101:14]
Keith Yandle
It's growing. I think they're expanding two more teams too.
- [101:17]
Ryan Whitney
The.
- [101:17]
Keith Yandle
The pwhl. Why are you laughing?
- [101:21]
Biz Nasty
Yeah, he said talk. I thought you were Talking chess. I thought there was chess teams I didn't know about. That's why ESPN Telluride Bush. Oh my God.
- [101:31]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, I throw it a little. All right, Hamilton got, got a little feedback. Our boy sings. He checked in. He actually pretty, pretty cool question I'll ask you guys first. Do any of you have family that currently, currently serve or have served in the military? Of course. Today is Memorial Day and obviously we love all guys and gals who laid down their life so us goofy idiots can do what we do here and make a living off of it. So. And you guys have aunts, uncles, whatever, like grandfathers who served.
- [101:56]
Biz Nasty
My grandfather did a marine legend of a guy and actually my parents went to Normandy recently and they, they, they went on a Viking cruise where you go and, and you see, you know, you see everything. You see Omaha beach, you see all the beaches, you see the cemetery, you see just some. There's a museum. And they said it was the most touching. Like my dad couldn't even describe it. He's like, I was so emotional. And that's something that is for sure on my bucket list to get over there. And I think the, the feeling you have, like the eerie feeling and the respect and I mean there's Canadians, America, there's so many different nationalities, buddies that, that fought that war that I have to get over there and see that the way they were describing it to me.
- [102:42]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, true.
- [102:43]
Yan Stastny
Truly.
- [102:43]
Ryan Whitney
Hell yeah.
- [102:45]
Yan Stastny
Yeah. I got both my grandparents, both my grandfathers, uncles. Py. My uncle Py was in the army. My father in law, Purple heart from Vietnam. My brother in law, Bobby Noonan. Yeah. So a ton of us. Us. And yeah, I, I told my parents if I didn't make the NHL when I told them I was leaving, not going to school, they were like, what's your backup plan? And I wanted to be in the military. So it's one of those things where it's in, when it's in your family especially, especially, you know, you see what they went through, you hear the stories. Like you just have so much pride of being American and having people that in your family that have fought for you and truly a special day for them. So make sure, make sure you reach out to everyone that, that was, that served us and you know, they're the reason why we get to live this beautiful life.
- [103:35]
Keith Yandle
Absolutely.
- [103:36]
Ryan Whitney
What about you?
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Keith Yandle
I mean, no, no, no, I, but like, just like the fact that like, you know, we get to, to live in, in free countries and, and, and we have the ability to do what we want to do because of the ultimate sacrifice that people made for us. It's one of those things where like, weird. I couldn't even imagine going to like Normandy and just like sit and stand there in silence and just picturing what people had to like get off a boat knowing by their ears. Like it's insane at, at you know, 17, 18, 19 years old. Like kids like we were, we were going off to junior and you know, we were intimidated going to, you know, on the bus and going to away buildings, having to play against 20 year olds maybe thinking we were going to get beat up. Like could you imagine? And flying overseas knowing that you might not be coming back all to just provide the freedom for your country. So it's pretty like crazy and it's obviously huge that we take days like this to stop and remember what these people did for us. And we live in amazing, amazing world for the most part now. And I know there's still going on, but I mean North America, we, you know, we get to live the way we, we do because of, of the sacrifice that people made. So I can't, I don't think we could speak highly enough from those people who did that, did that and, and, and obviously we're so grateful that they did.
- [104:55]
Ryan Whitney
Especially we hear stories like kids like that with like, you know, lied about their age going in like 15 and 16 years old. You just think of that.
- [105:01]
Biz Nasty
Well, how about the guys who like were crushed, like souls crushed when they had a, an issue that wouldn't allow them to serve. Like right. You know, bad feeder, like an example like club feed or something. They were, they were, they were crushed by that. So I mean my parents said that we, when you go there like the cliffs, my dad or my mom was saying like I don't know how they got through. Like, I don't because the weather was so bad so they didn't have a lot of coverage overhead from planes. And he's like, I don't understand how these guys like ended up getting up there and like stopping all the gunners that the Nazis had set up. It was just something that, that after hearing from them after their trip, I'm like I'm, I'm doing that at some point. And funny enough, Ryder, who's eight and a half half, he's, all he does is play. He plays with his battleships. He's always watching movies about, he's obsessed with like the Navy. It's so interesting. Like he'll watch a hockey game with me, but he's right back to the battleships and then watching Videos about it. It's pretty cool. I'm like, wow. I'm like, I think you might have a lot bigger balls than your old man. Because I had the bad feet. I wouldn't have been able to come serve with you guys. I would have been back home taking care of everyone for you guys. You know me, you know, I'd be like, biz, what's your girlfriend doing? Does she need me to bring over girls groceries? Yeah, wait. Take your bad feet over and then clean my house. Fire at it. That's kind of where I just make
- [106:18]
Keith Yandle
sure you're getting the right Escalade.
- [106:19]
Ryan Whitney
On the way home when you mentioned the cliffs went like, you know, what Spielberg did with Saving Private Ryan was just absolutely incredible. Like, like the first time you see that movie, man, you just slack judge for the next two hours. But another great movie is the Longest Day. It was made in the 60s and it's, you know about the invasion of D day as well. And it's incredible movie. They had like every major star in the world practically. And like the what, what they were able to accomplish back in the, back in the 60s was amazing.
- [106:45]
Biz Nasty
But yeah, you brought that up recently, right?
- [106:47]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, because I hadn't heard of that.
- [106:48]
Biz Nasty
I'm going to check that out.
- [106:49]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, definitely. And Band of Brothers is the, the great miniseries to check out as well. G. I know you, you had family members were going to get you here.
- [106:56]
Rear Admiral
My grandpa was a Marine. He was the best. And it's pretty cool. Like my dad is. He's obviously so proud of his dad. He, he did so many different things in his life. Malden Catholic hall of Fame, started all these different businesses. But when you ask my dad about his dad being a mar Marine, he almost gets emotional talking about it. It's. It's pretty cool to hear. And one thing I do want to shout out is in honor of Memorial Day we filmed that Chicklets University at Army West Point. Very end of the video we had the opportunity. Coach Riley and a few of the guys took us up to the Trail of the Fallen, which is a trail right outside of West Point where you walk up the trail and you, you have a rock in. In memory of someone that, that gave the ultimate sacrifice and war. So you get to the top of this mountain and there's a giant like 100 foot American flag, biggest American flag you've ever seen. And all around it is names on these rocks of guys who gave guys and girls who gave the ultimate sacrifice. And there's little stories written about each person. And when you're up top there. You, you kind of realize like, man, like it's, it's so much bigger. Like these kids at army, they're playing for something so much bigger than, you know, just, just going out there, score a goal. It's, it's, it's emotional. Go watch that video. But you know, shout out to all those who gave the ultimate sacrifice because
- [108:10]
Biz Nasty
I guess there's a Brendan Byrne, Keith and I's friend and his son James is on Riders team. They're good buddies, same age. He was telling me that I think at 10 years old there's a West Point hockey camp. It's a sleepover hockey camp. And that's one that I know for Ryder too. Like he would love that. And then, you know, I'm sure the kids are taught and they see what, what, what actually goes on there and the intensity these guys have and what it means. So that's something I'm going to be looking into in a couple years.
- [108:35]
Rear Admiral
West Point's awesome with it too. Like they invite tons of local high school teams, they invite tons of pro teams. I know you guys went you when you did it.
- [108:42]
Keith Yandle
Yeah, Pittsburgh did it.
- [108:43]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah.
- [108:44]
Rear Admiral
They invite Florida just to go through it, do the trail of the Fall and they do all these military exercises and they show what a day in the life is like for these people. And it's, it's just I, I left there being like, I am not a man. These guys are so much more of
- [108:58]
Tripp Tracy
a man than me.
- [108:59]
Biz Nasty
Your wrists would have kept you out of the military. Oh, like, dude, here, hold this gun.
- [109:08]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, I.
- [109:09]
Biz Nasty
What about you? Ra?
- [109:10]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, my uncle Mike, my mother's brother, he, he was in Vietnam. You know, he, he paid his price. He come home like a lot of guys pretty, pretty banged up for a while, but he fortunately got better and got into the recovery community and helped a lot of people out after he got sober. Came home with a nice little AK47 too, for a little souvenir. My grandfather, he was in the navy. He served in the South Pacific during World War II. He was on, I believe at aircraft carrier I hit by a kamikaze man. He didn't, he, you know, he survived it and all, but saw some crazy. My old man was in the army. Fortunately he didn't get summoned for Vietnam. My father in law, well, he's still my father Jack, he was in Vietnam as well. This is, these two, last two are crazy. I didn't know about this till later in life. My uncle, my uncle, my great uncle Jimmy, my grandmother's brother. Brother. He was a medic in the Battle of Bulge. He was a conscientious objector because he was a cat like devout Catholic. He wouldn't carry a gun. So he was a medic like, like through some of the bloodiest battles in World War II, like the battle of Belgian. Like. Yeah, he just had, you know, the Red Cross thing there. Didn't carry a weapon and just was a, was a medic for these guys because like I only saw him, you know, as an old guy, you know, he was always, you know, under the weather. Shell always say. And I, and I realized why, because he had ptsd. Like that stuff wasn't diagnosed back then. They called it stuff he saw. Yeah. You know what. Shell shock they used to call it. So I, and I didn't find out about this till later life. And then this is the craziest one. My, My great Great Uncle Hugh McGonagall come over from Ireland and he joined the Navy to get citizenship and he was on the USS Maine. I know you've probably heard of it, you know, remember that? That's like the Spanish American War that got blown up in Havana Harbor. My great great uncle was killed in on that. And like nobody in my family knew this. My, My grandfather told me not long before he died. So it was like not a secret. Just, you know, like they just, you know, typical Irish family from back then, they didn't talk about. I was down Arlington National Cemetery and I saw that once of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers, you know, ceremony there. And then I looked at the map and I see USS Main Memorial. I said I got to go over there, check this out. And they, you know, they went back sometime later and they, and they got the mask from the ship, ship and they put a memorial with the mask like in a big silk, like a cylinder concrete. And I look up and there's my great great uncle's name, Hugh McGonagall at Onton National. I had no idea. Like, you know, again, hallowed ground. You go there. It's just such a solemn place and we had no idea our family name was. Was on a stone there. And because they went back and they got a lot of the remains and brought them back and they were actually the first soldiers in sailors that were killed overseas and buried it on international. So that's. I like I told my uncles and my dad and nobody in my family knew. So it was just this crazy history. I'm glad I got to find out out. So, yeah, pretty. Pretty wild stuff, man. So again, good Topic.
- [111:48]
Keith Yandle
Yeah. Great job.
- [111:49]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah. Good conversation. So moving along. Classic recommendation. We'll have a little fun at Midnight Run. One of the best comedies of the 80s. It's actually Robert De Niro's first real comedy. It's him and Charles Grod, Daero's the Bounty Hunter. He has to track down Charles Groen, and meanwhile, all these mobsters are trying to chase him down. Might be on Netflix right now, I believe, but legit, one of the funniest, like, comedy action movies of the 80s. And again, it's Daero's first, like, real foray. It's comedy role. So give it a whirl. Keith, you never saw Midnight Run?
- [112:17]
Keith Yandle
No.
- [112:18]
Yan Stastny
I gotta check that out.
- [112:19]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, give it.
- [112:19]
Biz Nasty
Give it a 95 on rotten tomatoes.
- [112:22]
Ryan Whitney
Oh, yeah. It's absolute classic. Yeah. And I'm sure a lot of the viewers out there. 1988 to come out.
- [112:27]
Eric Johnson
So.
- [112:28]
Ryan Whitney
Longtime Columbus Blue Jacket analyst and former scout Bill David passed away last week at 72. So we want to send condolences to his family, friends in the Columbus family as well. We're sorry to hear that. And I hate to end on a tough note, but we had a bad, bad day in Boston yesterday that woke up to the news that Boston firefighter Robert killed a. Bk, as he was known, was killed at a fire in Dorchester.
- [112:51]
Keith Yandle
Oh, man.
- [112:53]
Ryan Whitney
And it's, you know, like I've said before, you know, Keith, you know, your grandfather was. Was a Jake. And you know, when you grow up with that, your family, it never goes away. So when this happens, it's just, it just, it's heartbreaker for everybody, but particularly for those people who have, you know, firefighters in the family, whether the active retirement tied, and I got a lot of great buddies on the job. And, you know, like, we talked about Trooper Trainer a couple weeks ago and these, you know, civil servants who give their lives for us. But, you know, you just go to work one day, you don't know if you're going to come home. So, you know, we send our, you know, deepest condolences and sympathies to the Boston Fire Department and the family. And, you know, we love you, bk, and thank you for your sacrifice.
- [113:30]
Biz Nasty
That was just brutal. Keith, is that your grandfather's old? Yep. That's. That's awesome. Look at that.
- [113:37]
Yan Stastny
Look at this thing.
- [113:38]
Biz Nasty
But it's crazy. Like, firefighters, you're a lot of time, you're like, oh, it's a. Such a great job, right? Like, they were, you know, it's like, I think they work 24 on couple days off. 24 off. And, and in theory, yeah. But then like, buddy, they get that bell wrong and they're, they're walking into a fight. It's just so crazy. Like the difference in. When the job is maybe lowkey at times and then the fact that when it's time time, it's like, here we go. And that. I saw that. I think he was on the third floor. The floor gave way, fell down. Just horrible news. I'm glad you brought that up.
- [114:09]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's what my pop. That, that was in the Boston Globe several years ago. My old band. Putting out a fire right there. So first time you see him in person, man, you shit your pants. You realize the job they do. So again.
- [114:20]
Keith Yandle
Oh yeah. I was a kid. My, my dad was a volunteer for like 30 years. And I'll never forget, like I was like, he got a call and he had me like I was with him and we were just at the. He had to drop us off at this house across the street and like, obviously the lady took us in and I'll never forget like watching this huge fire and they went and like fought it and, and put it out and you know, you're, you're like 6 years old. You're like, holy, this is what this guy's doing every, every Wednesday to go for calls and go for meetings for like, this is what, this is why his pager's going off sometimes in the middle of the night. So pretty pretty crazy stuff. And the fact that these people are doing it as like a regular job all the time. It, you know, same, same thing goes for the people who had the ultimate sacrifices they're laying on the line just to keep us safe. And yeah, it's a credit to them. And, and we love you guys, all you first responders.
- [115:10]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah, well said.
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Keith Yandle
Great job already like bring great message
- [115:15]
Biz Nasty
on a day when, when all that stuff should be brought up. So. Awesome job. All right, thank you guys.
- [115:19]
Ryan Whitney
Thank you.
- [115:20]
Biz Nasty
All right, you gotta. You got a pick for tonight's game.
- [115:22]
Ryan Whitney
I, I like Montreal because I believe they're six and oh, after a loss so far in the playoffs, they haven't been graded home but they, they almost rope a dope their way to a two nothing series lead the other night. They could have very easy on that game. This team doesn't blink. They don't care that they get out shot. They're getting higher quality shots. I think they're going to be revved up tonight. And who knows biz, if it goes six and there's a Potential clinch who I'm going to have to take a ride. 93 to 89.
- [115:50]
Biz Nasty
I. I want to go to games.
- [115:51]
Ryan Whitney
Yeah. I'll be all over you.
- [115:53]
Eric Johnson
All right.
- [115:54]
Biz Nasty
All right. Appreciate it. Good to see you after an episode off Biz. Great job. Looking forward to watching tonight. What do you got?
- [116:01]
Keith Yandle
And last thing, I just want to thank Mitch Garber.
- [116:03]
Yan Stastny
He.
- [116:04]
Keith Yandle
Him and his kids let me come to their studio here.
- [116:06]
Biz Nasty
I was going to ask where you were.
- [116:08]
Keith Yandle
Yeah. Luckily, I was able to just walk over and come use this. Mitch Garber. He. He's a. A lawyer and an investor. Ended up being one of the founders of the circus, so that whole franchise. And then later became a minority owner in the Kraken. Like, he. He's one of the early investors in the Kraken.
- [116:28]
Biz Nasty
So did you tell them they're on the no watch list or.
- [116:30]
Keith Yandle
No, absolutely not. I. I basically said I'm considering him for one of my teams for next season, so even even said that I might even make amends with Buoy, but we know that's not happening.
- [116:41]
Yan Stastny
No, no.
- [116:42]
Biz Nasty
That's going way too far.
- [116:43]
Keith Yandle
Yeah. Thank you.
- [116:44]
Biz Nasty
Him.
- [116:44]
Keith Yandle
Him and his family for. For taking me in here. And. And also, I don't know who thought of the hockey dad merch, but great job. Even though it's a little bit of a faux pas, me wearing it.
- [116:55]
Biz Nasty
Hockey daddy.
- [116:56]
Ryan Whitney
Maybe not hockey daddy.
- [116:59]
Rear Admiral
We also got tons of new polos. Roback polos. We just released green. We released pink as well.
- [117:05]
Biz Nasty
The green one is so classy. I got that one sent to me. That green one is just. Just like that with a nice pair of gray shorts. Belt with the gray shorts or khaki shorts, and then. Oh, my God. Gee, great idea there, boys.
- [117:22]
Keith Yandle
And Blunt, I mean, what a run, man. From the start of the year, he came to Vegas for that opening game, he called somebody getting a hat trick. Dorothea got a hat trick in that game. I think it's the year of Bluntman, and I don't think there's anything stopping him. And he should get a ring app. They win it.
- [117:39]
Biz Nasty
I think you will. You know, Vegas, they take care of their own. They do. They. Everyone. I shouldn't take the care of their own until they don't need you. Then they gas you. They're just cutthroat villain scumbags. Can't stand them. But you know what? They're a hell of a hockey team.
- [117:55]
Keith Yandle
Like, I. I hate to say it, but I think if they would have lost with Bluntman attendance, they would have probably unfollowed him on social media, just blocked them on on all texts and any type of conversation station.
- [118:07]
Biz Nasty
And I would have taken back the package they sent him with all the VIP merch. That's what they would have done.
- [118:13]
Keith Yandle
It's got like a self detonating device
- [118:16]
Biz Nasty
on it to call Alan Walsh for a meme with a sword going through his back flurry style.
- [118:22]
Ryan Whitney
I'm still waiting on my HELA monster residual, so I don't know how long that's gonna take. I knew that was coming.
- [118:28]
Biz Nasty
All right, Happy Memorial Day to everyone and we'll be back to you on Thursday. Peace.
- [118:32]
Eric Johnson
Love you all.
- [118:35]
Biz Nasty
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- [119:28]
Keith Yandle
about putting in the work when nobody's cheering yet.
- [119:31]
Biz Nasty
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