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Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is barstool sports.
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I brought it toward the Coyotes and I asked him if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chicklets podcast full time.
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Ryan Whitney's got a pink Whitney out there now.
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Sandbagger.
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Get that on camera.
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Geek Yandel. The song man is a full time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris Beat. Whoa.
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We're buzzing right now.
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Spun
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foreign. What is up, folks? Welcome to episode 653 of the Spit and Tickets podcast. I don't know where and why biz is doing that. To coach, the coach, the casting coach. Pinkies up. We're all in Boston together. A little cup final trip to a city that there is no cup final going on in, but we're making content. Pinkies up. That's actually being generous to him. Dance was in the airport and just saw a kid staring, staring at him. Hung over, leaving Lauderdale in a bachelor party. Staring at him with game face with a one pink. He sent us the picture showed out that kid. I believe he drank it all weekend. He told you. And shout out to everyone in Carolina in Vegas who are crushing pink Whitney watching. Boys, don't shirt me. And I don't think you're allowed to the greatest Stanley cup final I can
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ever remember through maybe a little bit of recency bias. But this is unbelievable. This is unbelievable.
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Game one and two, yes, similar incredible games, but it wasn't like that in Game 3, Edmonton, Florida, and I'll tell you right now, we're witnessing history game after game after game, and I can't believe it. And my favorite part personally is the city of Toronto make the playoffs. And it's like worse than when they watched their team lose a 2 nothing lead to the Panthers last year. So incredible stuff. Saturday night, as meme says, is going to be a movie. It was a movie and it was an unreal movie because it was over in the second period.
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B
I went to shower you after the second period, I went to shower. I was going to like a bar mitzvah party afterward and I'm like, oh, this is done. So I might as well just like stop watching the game. I figured we could just assess the first two periods. I come out of the shower with the towel around me. It's fucking 4:3.
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C
The group chat's buzzing and Merles, were you in you in Stockholm at.
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F
Yeah, I was in the airport. I woke up probably an hour into the game. So I'm watching on delay and then it's four nothing. I said all Right, that's it. Pack the bags, head to the terminal. And group chat just keeps going. And I'm not looking at it, but I see the numbers just keep building. Like, what's wrong with these losers? Like, it's for nothing. Just, like, stop talking about the game. Go to bed. Play with your kids or something if they're still awake. And lo and behold, next thing you know, it's four. Four. And I was just.
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I was.
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I was disgusted because I had Vegas and regularly.
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C
Same here.
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Oh. Kind of nice, though. Said you didn't have to watch the intermissions, right? Like, you could just go right back to gameplay. And then you thought maybe. Oh, the reason the group chats buzzing. It's because the Marner. Marner penalty shot.
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F
Yeah, exactly. I'm like, oh, all right. That's why they're buzzing. Marner's getting a penalty shot. And then next thing you know. And it's also really weird. It's nice you skip the commercials, but I had Swedish announcers, so I'm not picking up anything where, you know, like, hiding the lead. We got Ray Ferraro coming on later. I like when I can hear the announcers and they give you that little bit of extra.
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C
Yeah, yeah. Don McDonough and Ray Ferraro have been unreal. I think these broadcasts have been excellent. Donna does every sport. He's really good at it. And I quickly do want to mention DraftKings. Guys, let's get DraftKings out of the way, because it all comes down to this. It's a best of seven battle. There's a possibility of four games left. I really hope we get four more of these legendary tilts, but no second chances. DraftKings has you covered every step of the way. The app is now available in all 50 states. That's big time. It includes all markets, bringing the game straight to your fingertips wherever you are, from Colorado to North Carolina. Colorado is in the south, as Biz has mentioned before. To Buffalo, you're in the excitement of the speed of sports. Follow every shift, power play, every overtime that won't end until somebody buries one double overtime. Saturday night Sweat the whole series in real time with a seamless experience built for playoff hockey. No matter what you're watching, you're always connected and in the game. With one app. New DraftKings customers sign up with Chiclets using Code chicklets and spend five bucks to get $200 in rewards within 21 days. That's code Chiclets in partnership with DraftKings. The crown is yours.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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That's long one. Let me stretch out a little bit.
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Little downward dog in our, in our living room.
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Can't do that though anymore.
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I got a question. What would the live line have been on DraftKings?
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It was, it was 7:70 to 1.
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Yeah, I saw plus 8,000. Somebody posted.
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C
I saw 8,000 when it was 4 nothing. And they locked Vegas. You couldn't even take Vegas. Like I'm, there's no chance. And in the second period, I said, wow, like Carolina had no business winning game two. You know, you're down two nothing to this team. Under 10 minutes to go, it's over. They come back, they win it on the torch challenge. We went over that. It was great doing that last show. After the game I said, this kind of sucks and this kind of proves is Vegas just way better than them because this is a complete drumming. It's six nothing, basically. Now they weren't goals and they were perfectly reviewed. It was offsides, offsides, review. I can't stand stand. But that's the rule. It was offsides the second one. I couldn't believe Anderson get didn't get taken out of the game.
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He was, oh, I know.
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My dad was with me. He's like, Barbara, any other he could
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have broke his neck any other year. Like there was contact in years past where he would have been out of the game, far less so shout out to him for staying in there. That's one of those ones though. I think someone texted in the group chat, like, you wake up the next day and you got like the neck brace on because it's so stiff, right?
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C
Yeah. Anyways, but all of a sudden the third period starts. I don't know what Vegas was like. I don't, I don't want to give Caroline all the credit because they played phenomenal. But Vegas, even towards city, was second period's best period of our playoff third period. I don't know what we were doing. Is that an example of them being like, this thing's done. Like we just watched the greatest 6 minute and 30 second span a hockey player has ever had in playoffs. Quick and playoff season.
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Quickest hat trick, right?
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Ever. Yeah, we saw the Stanley Cup.
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We saw the quickest hat trick ever. We saw two goals taken off the board. We saw two own goals, including the double overtime winner. But in the third period, I don't really know what happened. Like, I, I, I was on wake up.
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Neither do I. I was scrubbing my nuts.
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Wake up still today. And, and Portoy said he's like could you even score three goals in 39 seconds if it was five on just a goalie? Think about it.
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Yeah.
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39. How. How would you.
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I feel like we used to do that as a drill sometimes. And you had trouble scoring three on zero.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And they got. I don't get how it happened. I don't understand, like, where it went for Vegas.
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Like, they were trying to get too cute. Like, Stone had like a half break. We took a slap shot. And what was the play, the backdoor play. Smith to be of, like, they were
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just in the history of the cup final. They were just getting too cute.
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And it's like, you got to step on this is.
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This is one of the conversations that dinner was Dorothy literally going like, what the fuck, bro?
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Speaking of DraftKings, it screwed up our DraftKings parlay that we're 2 for 3 in the Finals on them boys. Like, we're crushing it. And then all he had to do was slide it over to him and we would have cashed.
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People weren't like, dialed in. Dialed in watching. They're probably like, what are you talking about? I believe it was a 4, 3 game at the time. And Cole Smith got an opportunity where he just literally had to slide it over to Dorothea for the. For the biggest empty net goal you've ever seen. Dorothy is not going to miss that. And he elected to shoot it and
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he kind of like on the ice, you know? And I think Cole Smith might have set a record for hits in a.
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Yeah, like, we're not.
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Yeah, he's doing his straight line and his role is not to be like, looking off a goalie and dishing it all through the crease.
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But he's like,
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shoots it short side. It actually is a pretty good shot. Dorothy, stick, clock. And he's like, what?
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He's still standing there.
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He couldn't believe it. And I was like, oh.
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He poked a guy in the top deck's eye out.
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Oh, my God, how high.
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His stick was waiting for that.
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And then was it Shea Theodore. He flips it out. Oh, now that's a question where. I love the high flip. And they've been do that early in that game, there was a bunch of high.
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Oh, yeah. High flips.
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I loved. I really. I think the high flip. I actually. Last episode we. I didn't even mention we were talking about how good it is. It's hard.
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Okay, so why it's hard is whiffed
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on it all the time.
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Okay. So let's explain to the normal casual why it's so hard when you're doing it in practice, there's nobody taking runs at you. You're not worried about getting hit. There's nothing like on the line, actually. You're just simply practic, like a. Like a nice, soft high flip. And typically you keep, like, pretty. Pretty light hands. Well, sometimes in games when you got a guy breathing down your neck, you kind of stiffen up or you, like, rush the cadence, and that's when you see them, like, flub and not go anywhere. And. Or sometimes you really get a hold of one with a flick of the wrist. And you saw what Theodore did. Where some guys are so good at it, it like pumps, punts too far. Like, some guys even on the kill, like Derek Morris, like, he would clear the puck in his own end all the way over the glass on the far end, which would be another delay a game.
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That's. People hit the jumbotron. You're, whoa, dude, that one got away from you.
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B
Yeah, that. That's obviously not. Not a penalty. But that's why it's so hard to do, like, certain guys. I mean, Marner can do it on his backhand.
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Believable.
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Yeah. Like doing the high flip and making sure you have the right cadence on it to punt it. And the fact that if it doesn't go anywhere, the D man on the. On the blue line is just going to grab it and keep it in, and then you're. And then you're hemmed in.
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I think that if we don't mention what Braden McNabb did.
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So I call. I want to label it the Eminem game, the Marner McNabb.
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Okay. He had two assists. He now has five assists. In this series. He played over 34 minutes. People wanted to be able to go full cage on. I think he said he hadn't worn a full cage since before the WHL. You know, what was he, 16, 15 years old? I think more impressive than McNabb is the doctor. The guy walking in, I'm like, did he. I don't even. Did he even get hit in the face? But then once you got close up, you could tell, and it was jagged. It was almost like his nose was like falling off and he had covered up his face. We never saw it. I guess he's probably going to go into the exact injury when the series is over. But to show up the way he did. They're yelling, warrior, Warrior Adam after the game. Apparently when he walks in the room, he's one of the three stars. Theodore is obviously one of the stars. Scoring the game winner. They're hugging partners forever. I. I think it would be your old boy that you ran out of. T. Old Mitchell Barner.
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So Mitchell.
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So McNabb. I guess. No questions. He was. He was getting this done.
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I mean, he said he woke up and felt good, but I think, well, he's from Sask. You just have to be a little bit tapped in the brain to be able to, like, play through that. Like, you. You. Mouth breathing is a whole different element. Like. Like, typically. Yeah, you would know.
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Yeah.
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Are you a mouth breather?
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No, I'm saying, like, describe it. Playing 30 minutes where like, all of a sudden, like, your. Your nasal breeze breathing's taken away from you from a game where you're used to, like, the way that you take in oxygen throughout a performance.
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Yeah. Even if you're sick and have, like, a stuffy nose. It's brutal. Never mind if your nose is legit.
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Yeah.
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Like, I can't go tonight.
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Do it.
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I got the sniffles.
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Yeah. But if you're used to breathing out of your nose, out in your mouth, out your nose, and then you can't do that. Playing 36 minutes, and I only saw the one time. It was Hall's goal. Like, the P of got lost, and it's from having the cage on. Yeah, he kind of lost the puck a little bit, and Halsey ended up scoring. That was the only blunder I saw with him.
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He got him back, though.
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Yeah, he did.
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But having that mask on is a nightmare when you have to look down when you haven't worn one in so long. Like the fact. I mean, he made some great plays, too. Absolute warrior, that guy is. I cannot believe. I can believe, because he's a Western leaguer, that he played.
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You know, it's a bad injury because I saw a quote from him and he said, sutton or somebody said, I don't know what it was. 20 or 30 stitches. When the doctor just loses track. He's just trying to get it.
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I'm gonna get dogs. I don't worry about it, bud. I have no clue. I'm stitching your nose back to your face. I just.
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Does he typically start games because it's such a vet move by a coach to get the boys fired up or in the crowd, like, knowing that he's gonna get that chara ovation. Like, that's the last time we've seen something like that since the chara thing. Right.
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And they thought this was a broken jaw, so it's even, I think, a little above this one.
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Yeah.
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Personally, the jaw.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, no, you can't eat.
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Well, one's only strictly nasal breathing. One's going strictly mouth breathing. So either way. Right.
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But the jaw, you can't eat. You know, you're having a shake maybe. And that guy's 270 pounds. Like that's a, that's a tough. Yeah.
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Let's start. Let's start in the second beer. First period, a little bit of a snoozer.
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It was a snooze.
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Nine shots total.
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Completely panicked. We are streaming tomorrow night's game four and with what we've seen the first three games with us now streaming, I'm guessing we got a one nothing 18 to 16 shot game. I'm really hoping that's not the case. But we ruin everything we touch. But back to this game.
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I gotta say, like the first period, I thought Carolina was way better.
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Yes.
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Yeah, they were good early again.
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And I did not like. I'm a Vegas guy. I did not like the line changes. I, I didn't like how they moved stone up there. I thought, I thought they weren't the same team. I liked how stone and hurdle they were effective. And Eichel can carry Dorothy of and bar.
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Yeah.
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But sometimes, sometimes the coaches, I've noticed are doing it more as a reboot. Like Carolina's done it a few times.
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It's been in a blender the whole series.
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Yeah, they have. But sometimes they'll do it and then go right back to it after like 2, 3 shifts. Right. So I don't know, maybe sometimes it's just like a, like a little wake up call and then you. And then you put. And. Or maybe it's a coaching tactic to throw off the other team a little bit. Like where like they're kind of like, ah, what's going on over there? And the next thing you know, they're right back to normal. So. Hey, something. Hey. It obviously worked because second period they came out with their dicks out with the. What's, what's the dick pill we use now.
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How could I forget in Puerto Rico? Never forget that one. So. Okay.
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Oh yeah.
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Okay. So you brought, you brought.
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We're going to move on to period two.
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So you brought the old.
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Another one. It starts off hurdle gets another one. Eichel with an incredible pass. Now Marner had the second assist on that. Didn't really notice it, but fine, fine. Marner started secondary says a Whitney assist, as some people may call it. And Echo finds hurdle. I don't know if you look back at what Chatfield was doing. Chatfield was. It looked like he was covering the half wall guy on the opposite side. I don't really understand. And now granted, they have a great pk. Hurdles wide open, buries it. Then the Marner show begins. Now the first one, I felt bad for Sean Walker. Like I. That's the play, right? You see a puck going through the crease, you just boom. And all of a sudden you tip it. Is Anderson supposed to get that? Is that a crazy comment? Yeah, I think so. But like some people may say, like, I don't know. It went posting in. It went posting.
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I think everything.
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Everything all just bad.
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Everything Marner's touching is turning to gold right now. So that's just. That's the per. The perfect bounce there.
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And then he gets the next one. The next one was so sick because it was originally what was his first chance that he missed.
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It was a breakaway.
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Breakaway. Missed the breakaway. And then he gets it back. Don't really know the defense by Carolina there. That move was sick. He waits him out.
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The.
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He goes to the backhand this time. The four. He tried going to the forehand on the breakaway.
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Was it McNabb staying aggressive inside the blue line that kept it alive.
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He made the passover.
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I think somebody missed a high flip like you just talked about.
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They did okay.
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They fumbled the high flip and McNabb
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was all over it, sniffing it.
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And he's coming down, right down the middle. Made a great play over to Marner.
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And then we see. I don't even remember seeing him take a slap shot in Toronto, but he's busting down the wing, bro. He's taking more Aussie coming down the way, posting it. And I'm like, this is the most incredible thing I've ever.
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The hardest slap shot goal of all the playoffs, apparently. As far as miles per hour. No,
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you must have read something wrong. Somebody's trolling you. That was the hardest slapshot goal of the playoffs.
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Like the Jarvis one timer even wasn't harder, I think.
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I think you read this on like some ridiculous.
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No, I think I spotty that all these crazy stats are coming out. But somebody also tweeted that he's kind of got that classic 80s clapper where it's just like.
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It's.
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It's a. It's like a very like slow cadence. But he gets some pretty good wood on that thing. And it's almost like a twisted wrister because of how, like how the cadence is going.
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The cake.
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You love the word cadence is in the vocab. Today.
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Okay, he did Anderson's pad. That was Walker. Okay. Block. Either way, he got a piece of it. And it's like, oh, buddy, we need a save right here. But after that I was like, this guy.
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Well, that locked up the ponds, Mike.
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The most goals he ever had in one playoff with Toronto was three. He had three and six. Goddamn. In the second period of a Cup final game. And I'm like, what are we. How is this happening?
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B
So between player. Yeah. Between 2019 and 2025, he had 10 total playoff goals with the Toronto Maple Leafs and he's got the same amount in this playoff run and he now
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has the most points for a Vegas goldnight player ever, ever playoff ever. So yeah, he's locked up the con Smite if they win.
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Only. Only minus 200 if you want to go on DraftKings. Yeah, I think he gets it. Win or lose.
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I don't know.
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Anderson's done.
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B
I would say he's. I would say he's done more individually than any other Carolina player. So I don't like disagree with your take. I believe it was before the Colorado series. He was what, 12 to 1? Or was that even like a couple games into that series?
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Before this series, I thought it was
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B
like plus 200 right around before the Colorado series began. He was 12 to 1 to win the Con Smythe and then Vegas was still pretty good odds to. To end up winning the Stanley Cup. But I think everybody agrees here that he has that thing locked up and they are winning it. There's no way they don't win that series now after winning games.
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Okay, so you're on.
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B
It's over, buddy. I think this has been over since the, the start. Like I'm shocked that it's transpired the way that it has. That particular loss. Here's the only way that Carolina wins this series. If Rod the Bod has the balls to start Bussey in game four, I do not think he's going to do it. I think that Anderson has earned that start in game four. My biggest gripe is, and I know he's going through a lot is when there's these breakdowns that they are going to have that's inevitable that it's going to happen against Vegas and they're going to win those one on one battles. Most of time when they're getting the Grade 8, it's finding its way in where Bussy, the way that he skates and he moves, he's able to take those quick one on ones and, and like in like short Breakways. And even if they get a second crack, he battles. He's not like already on his stomach. Where sometimes I find when they're, when they're getting the second crack and Anderson and net, he's kind of already swimming a little bit. And it's a, like, I think we can all agree up until this point, like, it, it was a lot of one and dones and he wasn't tested that much. I mean, some of these games he was getting 12, 15 shots not to say, to stay, be alert. And when you do get that one chance, he ends up making the stop. I just think Vegas is a different beast. Bus. He's been resting. I know maybe he fell off in the second part of the season, but what I saw in the first half and what I saw getting thrown in cold in that third period, which Mitch Martyr didn't even realize they switched a goalie when he went in for his penalty shot. I don't know if you read that,
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you know, you're feeling.
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I, I, I think that that's the only way they can come back and win the series.
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So you think, you think Rod the Bodies is gonna go with busy?
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B
No, I don't think.
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I think, I think, I think, I think he's crazy if he doesn't. And, and I, I did say I used your line this morning on the, on Wake Up Bar. So I said cadence, it, it. No, I said that it's the toughest decision Brenda Moore's maybe ever, ever had in his. Because of what. And Blutman was going bananas. He's like, this is the easiest decision a coach has ever had. He started the wrong guy. Game one of the playoffs. I go, Blutman, he, He, he won 12 games. He lost one game. The best numbers. He's like, well, it was Ottawa, Philly and Montreal. It's not right because in, in this series, he gave up five and then he gave up three. That's eight. Then he gave up four, and that's 12 and three games. That's actually 12 and less than three games because he didn't play the third period of game three. And with how busy looked. Are you saying it's tough because Anderson's got him there?
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I, I think, I think it's tough for a lot of reasons. He's been there a while. He's the more veteran goalie. And if you do make that call and it's the wrong call, it's like 1000% series over.
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C
No, you go back to him at home.
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Yeah. Then you got Freddie at home.
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B
That's fine. But I'm going to give you a prime example. What type of like what type of playoff runs has Carter Hart been on in his career? I don't believe ever. Right. So he comes back from injury and in that Utah series he had a couple tough outings.
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C
You were calling for his job. I said calling for his job. I can't believe Hill hasn't gone in.
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Yeah, I, I, the reason that, the reason I'm saying that is okay, boys,
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he won a cup for him.
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C
What are you doing it towards?
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Answering my.
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C
What are you doing it towards?
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B
We're talking about a rookie goaltender who went on a hot streak at the start of the year compared to a guy who went on a full playoff run and won a Stanley cup with the Golden Knights. And I watched it with my own eyes, even against Florida, like he was making big saves. He helped them win a Stanley Cup. He made the saves that he needed to. So when you have a goalie who's never been on a playoff run, he just got back from injury and he's struggling against a Utah team where I think back to back games, he led up like four, maybe back to back. Even late in the game, torts didn't take him out and put Aiden Hill in. He said, you're my guy. You're my guy. You're my guy. And maybe in order for Freddie Anderson to to steal one, he just needs rod to say, you're my guy. You're going in game four. I got the whole world in my ear saying I should start busty based on what we saw in the third period. He's fresh and maybe those one on ones and those breakaways he can stop. But you're my guy.
- [22:08]
C
Okay, if they start him you. But also listen, listen. I know you like Aiden Hill. I know you like Aiden Hill. This Aiden Hill gets him going. Listen, he loves Aiden. Hey, I know, I know, I know. They were playing Florida had six healthy players. Yes, he won the cup. If Anderson starts and Vegas goes up one nothing and the goal is sketchy. See ya. That's how it has to be. That's how it has to be. And that's why I think you start bussy.
- [22:40]
B
I think if you're going in with that mentality, that is a loser mentality.
- [22:44]
C
What do you mean? Dude, you're starting a kid who broke an NHL record for a start of a career. And was he 23 and one you love bu he came on the show as Aiden Hill came on the show back to the and boom. He had to Take a left over to Raleigh. And he went 23 rusty in with
- [23:04]
B
boys playing dice at a 7:11.
- [23:06]
F
And they got the call in Vegas. He two shutout periods. The third period, the first OT, he
- [23:12]
C
was unbelievable in that.
- [23:14]
E
Yeah.
- [23:14]
F
The goal was, it's got to go with him. And then if it's perfect, you're going to lose anyway. Like you said, Vegas is winning, but you have a chance. Then when you go home, be like, all right, Freddie, back to you. You're at home. So what if you lose this game? Then what do you do at home? What if Freddy's.
- [23:28]
C
Then.
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F
Then you really screwed up because Freddie's good at home.
- [23:31]
C
Yeah, but he wasn't in. In game one.
- [23:34]
F
Well, not this series, but I think
- [23:36]
E
if busy wins, I think we should
- [23:39]
B
flip a coin right now to see who starts.
- [23:41]
C
All right. All right.
- [23:42]
E
What are the chances? Anyone has a coin for 20, 26.
- [23:45]
C
I know.
- [23:45]
B
Seriously, Nobody memes.
- [23:47]
C
Okay, so memes, like, I get a toonie.
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F
Names are still in Pearson.
- [23:51]
B
I have a beauty, but I bought 20 Timbits with my flight guy.
- [23:55]
C
I got a question. So Torch takes a lot of heat. Game two for the challenge.
- [24:00]
B
Okay. I thought he was gonna challenge the. The. The second non.
- [24:04]
C
Goal. He could.
- [24:05]
D
Yeah.
- [24:05]
C
But I. He. I. I think he realized, like, I can't get another one wrong. But if they lost this game, he would have taken 10 times the heat that he took in game. No.
- [24:16]
B
Timeout.
- [24:16]
C
Believe he didn't call timeout. I. I couldn't understand it, but you get two in whatever, 30 seconds.
- [24:22]
B
Yeah.
- [24:23]
A
Timeout.
- [24:24]
C
Timeout. Yeah, but no, he doesn't take it. They give up another one.
- [24:27]
E
But you got to keep that time out if you're gonna have to challenge something.
- [24:31]
C
I don't think there's.
- [24:33]
B
I think you're too deep in.
- [24:34]
C
The challenge is not even. I mean, the challenges haven't worked for him. Let's watch. We just gave up two in 30 seconds, and then he doesn't even take one after the third.
- [24:44]
E
I think at that point, could have put in hill.
- [24:49]
B
I love you guys giving me where. What side do you lie on that one with the hill one.
- [24:53]
C
Vegas and five since five April. The.
- [24:59]
B
The thing that's crazy about it, too, is that you're at home. So if you call the timeout, it's quiet.
- [25:04]
E
Yeah.
- [25:04]
B
So you're. It's just like, boys, you can actually have a conversation. You're not, like, screaming at your players over the crowd noise. So I agree with you crazy that he didn't call the timeout. I Thought he was going to have a fucking aneurysm when Theodore put that one over the glass. And how about all of a sudden Carolina's power play is just snapping it around like Edmonton Oilers.
- [25:23]
E
How about the keep in by Ajo when somebody swatted with his hand? Keeping in. Then they score.
- [25:28]
F
I was on, my legs were burning watching Dowd and Sizzins out there like those, they could, they, they started it. They lost the draw. They couldn't get off. You could just see him straight, like brain shut off.
- [25:39]
E
He put somebody through the crease.
- [25:41]
B
He put somebody through the goal.
- [25:42]
C
I, I, I tweeted out, like, I, I don't think two teams have ever deserved two days off.
- [25:49]
B
Yeah,
- [25:51]
C
the second overtime guys are just gassed out there. They couldn't really get much going. And then I did feel brutal. I felt bad for Martin. Hook and I felt bad for Bussy. Like, Martin, nothing either one of them could do. Maybe Bus, he's a little out too out a little too far. But Martin, it just like handcuffed him. He's like, all of a sudden it's by his stick, it's by his feet, it's in the back of that. You knew it'd be a shitty goal. Always a shitty goal as games go deep like that. But Hart made a save on Jankowski. The first overtime was three minutes in. It was kind of, it was a little two on oh in front and he kicked out the right pad. That was an unreal save. Bussy had some good ones.
- [26:27]
B
Hell would have made that look routine. It was still really nice.
- [26:31]
F
Made one on, on Hall. Hall shot one side. It was down.
- [26:35]
A
Yeah, that was bad.
- [26:36]
F
Hall almost had the game winner for it. That would have been nice.
- [26:38]
E
Carolina was all over in the first like six minutes. I was like, oh, the ice is tilted big time here. Then Vegas cleaned it up.
- [26:44]
B
Did you guys see the, the footage of the owner, Bill Foley?
- [26:48]
C
Yeah, I think her chance. McPhee's like, like on something during these games.
- [26:53]
B
Buddy, I told you, that's Pinky in the brain going at it. Did I call that?
- [26:57]
C
He's going insane. Like, I stand up going down and then he's how he's hugging. Hopefully after Bill Foley's like, yeah, he's
- [27:07]
B
like, can you freeze me again?
- [27:09]
C
But the one clip of McPhee where it's like, I think it's like 40 seconds. But at one point he stands up, he says about eight times, yeah, I don't know who he's screaming at.
- [27:18]
B
If he was miked up, up. Oh, I Don't even know if they could field an AHL team because nobody would want to play there. About what.
- [27:24]
D
What.
- [27:25]
B
He's probably a motherfucker.
- [27:26]
C
His own.
- [27:27]
B
Larkin wouldn't even want to go there. Larkin would be like, yeah, take him off my list.
- [27:32]
C
Get into that.
- [27:32]
B
I. Yeah, I think he's the type of guy that probably like, after a game, he's like, yeah, I need to like, de stress here because I've been with every guy.
- [27:39]
E
But what's crazy is like, you see him like that and then after the game he's like, good game, boys.
- [27:42]
C
Good game.
- [27:44]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he. McCrimmon's a little bit more like chill. He's more of the. The. The brains of the office was building
- [27:51]
C
a Lego set in Duffel all the time. They didn't show that. I got a special clip sent to me. The naval ship. Yeah. You had a little. He had like one of those lasers that burns holes. Add something special to the Lego for sure. But yeah, just a wild series. The highest scoring series in the cup final through three games in 45 years.
- [28:12]
B
Wow.
- [28:12]
C
And it's just been. It's been crazy. I'm very worried about game four.
- [28:16]
E
Shout out. Stall too, like scoring every game now, like 37 was sick. Unbelievable.
- [28:23]
C
He's so good there.
- [28:24]
F
The face offs. He's unreal on the draw, like, and possession. And I saw it like, I'm telling you, these seven game series, why I like the big D on that goal. Stall wins it back. You see Rasmus Anderson standing there. He wanted no part of going to deal with Jordan Stahl. Stall, stick wide open, tips it in. If that's a big d, if that's McNabb, he's right over there on him. Engage with him. Lifting the stick like.
- [28:49]
C
Yeah, Mer's been on Anderson a little bit. I don't think.
- [28:51]
F
I don't think he knows it's a Stanley cup final sometimes.
- [28:54]
C
But maybe that's a good. Maybe that's him. You know, like some guys are just. They never get too high too. I mean, imagine if he was like McPhee. Imagine being in this game, 30 games to spent.
- [29:04]
B
Oh, yeah. No, he'd be squeezing somebody's nuts at the bottom of the pile.
- [29:08]
F
You guys mentioned Jordan Stall there. Pretty cool fact. He joined Brad Marchand as the second player age 37 or older to score in the first three games of Stanley cup final.
- [29:17]
C
Yeah, Marshawn buried the Oilers last year. Now I. I'm wondering, like, Anderson, he maybe hasn't looked great. McNabb's back if he was out, that was a big problem. Hannifin left the game, and I don't know how long he was gone for, but at the same time, Carrie's out now, and.
- [29:33]
B
And also, Chatfield was a little banged up. That was one of the points. Like, it feels like the guy. You said the two days off feels like a lot of guys were going down the tunnel. And although both teams got good rest after, like, not playing many games in the third round, the. The. The wear and tear is really starting to show, and that's another reason why I favor Vegas big time.
- [29:51]
F
Did Chatfield get hurt when they opened the door on him? And he got a little bit, but
- [29:55]
B
he got more hurt on just, like, it looked like just like a casual hit. I think it was like, maybe like. Like midway through the first period, and then he ended up going down the tunnel, but once again came back. So it just seemed like. It seemed like three or four guys went down the tunnel.
- [30:09]
C
I was impressed. Hall stayed in the game. I thought he collapsed his. He's got his lung collapsed.
- [30:14]
B
Yeah, Halsey. So what I love about Halsey is I always thought that Halsey was like a, like, true, true honest player where I feel like he's flirted the line perfectly these playoffs where he threw that hit on Sanderson. I think he got Sanheim in the. In the second round. Yeah.
- [30:34]
E
Montreal, he got Hudson.
- [30:36]
C
Three defensemen on each.
- [30:37]
E
He's kind of. He kind of got the Bennett move going.
- [30:39]
B
He's got the Bennett.
- [30:40]
E
Yeah.
- [30:41]
B
Got the benefit going.
- [30:42]
C
I think Tripp said he was betting for them.
- [30:44]
B
Yeah, he did. He did.
- [30:45]
E
He said Bennett called him when they
- [30:47]
C
went crazy on him. It was Hannifin.
- [30:49]
B
It was. Yeah, he bumped. So the puck was frozen. It went to Carter Hart, and Hannifin was kind of like, going back in case he didn't freeze it. And then Halsey just gave him that perfect bump, and then he crashes into to Carter Hartner. Carter Hart, like, keels over. Like, what if. You know, what if he hurts his neck or tweaks his knee or something like that?
- [31:13]
C
Get them out. Hey. I kind of liked how they call
- [31:17]
B
it a bomb threat, but I'm the spotter threat.
- [31:20]
C
I kind of liked how there was no call because there could have technically been one on hall for the hit, but Anderson jumped three feet. Oh, yeah, it knows. To get hall, he jumped on stalls back.
- [31:31]
B
Not even Halsey.
- [31:32]
E
Wrong guy.
- [31:33]
B
Wrong guy.
- [31:34]
C
Oh. Couldn't get to stall and then haul. And he got this. He's like, fuck it, Gunner.
- [31:38]
B
Stall it. I see It.
- [31:40]
C
I see.
- [31:42]
B
Good enough.
- [31:44]
C
What round is this?
- [31:45]
E
Stall is just one L, isn't it
- [31:46]
F
at the mall with a ball?
- [31:47]
E
B, A, a L. Yeah.
- [31:50]
C
Sorry, Biz, no.
- [31:51]
E
1L.
- [31:52]
C
Yeah, it's.
- [31:53]
E
It's just two A's, one L, E, it's.
- [31:55]
C
What's your word?
- [31:56]
B
Hill's got two.
- [31:57]
C
Cadence of the L's.
- [31:59]
B
Hey, Hill's got two,
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C
Baby.
- [32:07]
B
We're live standing finals.
- [32:09]
C
What else from this game? What the hell else?
- [32:12]
D
The.
- [32:12]
C
The minutes played. Very impressive by some of these guys.
- [32:15]
E
There's not six minutes for McNabb.
- [32:17]
B
Have we talked about Marner yet?
- [32:19]
C
We've. We've mentioned.
- [32:21]
B
I think we should go back to it.
- [32:22]
C
We've mentioned what we witnessed. Did you guys think the AHO slot.
- [32:25]
E
Marner's breakaway was so unnecessary? Like, I feel like he could have caught him and just picked.
- [32:29]
B
Oh, you know what we should talk about is the greasy cross check from Walker to break Marner's hat trick stick.
- [32:35]
C
Ye.
- [32:35]
E
Yeah, that'll actually look cooler in the hall of Fame. Broken.
- [32:38]
C
No, he was joking. That stick being broke, he's like.
- [32:42]
E
It's like, dude, we don't pay for them.
- [32:43]
B
Yeah. No, I think he was mad because it was his hat trick stick.
- [32:46]
F
Oh, I think I've told that story before in the AHL when you had to use ccm, But Chicago Wolves, you could buy your own and use Easton if you want. And the guy, Devereaux used to buy his own Easton to use them, but one of his ended up in our bench. It was in San Antonio. I don't know if you were still there, but Caldwell took it, looked him right in the face, snapped it. He's like, no, I pay for my sticks.
- [33:06]
C
Oh.
- [33:07]
F
It was like the same luck, like, oh, boys.
- [33:10]
B
All right.
- [33:10]
C
Ray Ferraro, who's crushing at this series, he's ready to go.
- [33:13]
B
But how does he have the energy to. Come on.
- [33:15]
C
He's not playing in the game, man.
- [33:17]
B
He's calling double ot.
- [33:19]
C
I know, I know, but, buddy, he's just ready to go. He's a professional. But before we get to him, let's talk Shell. You hear it all the time in sports. You get out what you put in. If you're eating right, training right, doing all the little things. Unless you're biz who still gets injured, you're gonna perform better. Everybody knows that. It's the exact same dynamic with your car. Not thinking about what you're actually putting into it. But it turns out it matters a lot. Shell v Power Nitro plus is designed to help remove up to a hundred percent of performance, robbing deposits from your engine. So instead of your car working through all that buildup, it's actually able to perform the way it's supposed to be on the road. And that's where you feel it. More power when you need it and more performance every time you drive. If you're putting better fuel in, you're going to get a better drive out of it. Shell V power nitro plus premium gasoline. More power, more performance in gasoline. Direct injection engine fuel injectors with continuous use of Shell V power nitro plus premium gasoline compared to lower octane fuels. Actual effects and benefits may vary according to vehicle type, driving conditions and driving style. See shell us slash more for more details.
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B
I got one thing before we bring on Ray and it's more Marner.
- [34:24]
C
How good I just read that.
- [34:25]
B
Yeah, you've been on fire.
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C
Thanks, guys.
- [34:27]
B
You know what had octane from Shell was Marner slap shot. Here's, here's the tweet and shout out to Bluny for sending us over. Mitch Marner completed his hattick on a 91.44 mph shot attempt, his hardest shot this season. It was the hardest shot attempt resulting in a goal by a forward this postseason. Third hardest among all skaters. Like, that's still pretty sick. And he never takes slap shots in the hardest shot for a forward.
- [34:53]
C
Does it say what was number one? Remember demidov's against Buffalo? That had to be up?
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B
Yeah, it doesn't say, but more Marner glazing when we return.
- [35:02]
F
Radish. I think Darren Radish had it.
- [35:04]
B
Oh, before we get to the, to the actual Stanley cup final, are we going to talk about Larkin?
- [35:09]
C
Well, let's raise. Ready? Let's talk about the cup final with Ray and we'll get to Larkin. Ray, are you here? Can you guys bring them at Ray? Sorry about that. What's going on?
- [35:17]
D
Not fine. I, I was impressed in listening to your ad read with thank you. Spectacular that that had the chance to go off the rails about four times.
- [35:27]
C
Yes, yes. Believe me.
- [35:29]
E
Everything.
- [35:30]
C
Yeah, I got ahead of myself. So Ray, we were complimenting you and Sean. The broadcast has been incredible, awesome for you guys. Did you ever expect we'd see anything like this? I mean, I think everyone was expecting a good series, but this has been. I can't imagine how fun it is to be between the benches for this.
- [35:47]
D
No, I, I, I was actually in my thought. I, I was worried it was going to be a bunch of three two and two one games and they were Going to check each other to the ground and there wasn't going to be much happening. And like I couldn't, couldn't be more wrong. It's like, it's nuts the way the games have gone. Every game somebody scores two goals, somebody gets three goals. Some, you know, what was it? Game two. The Carolina was down three nothing. They get three goal or two nothing to get three goals in the third period. They get four the other night. And I just, I, I think they're at a point now that this is just the way the series is. And it's awesome. It is unpredictable and fun and it's impossible to keep track of what the hell is going on. Is what like in game.
- [36:35]
C
Yeah.
- [36:35]
D
You're like, I saw a highlight after the game and they showed hurdles, power play, goal.
- [36:40]
B
It was.
- [36:41]
D
I was just sitting, having a drink after and I was like, oh, I forgot he scored. It was like, it was like three days before. And it's every game like that.
- [36:53]
B
Ray, that's what I was going to ask. You've been doing this a long time and like just, just like where the state of the game is like you've been between the benches, like how much faster is it now? And where the speed of the game is at. And obviously it's really translating as far as the ratings and people like falling in love with the game of hockey.
- [37:10]
D
I, I think the, the difference now, like even, you know, it's been 10 years that it started to get faster and faster and faster. But now the guys that you wouldn't think could be fast are fast and they all make a play and they're so there's no, like, of course there's the top end guys that are just, they're just so good. But I'm watching these fourth lines play and they're going to, they go a million miles an hour. The, the, the other, the Vegas fourth line the other day had 24 hits. And so that's a good year. Smith like Cole's years, a lot longer than that. Cole Smith had 14 hits.
- [37:54]
B
Yeah.
- [37:54]
D
And so like they're, they. Everything is so fast. And I don't know how anybody can't turn this on and go even if they don't quite understand the details, but go, man, this is awesome how physical and fast and now there's lots of goals too. And I, I thought it was going to get a little chippier at some point. It hasn't. And now I think that's gone. It's now like it's just about the game now.
- [38:18]
B
It was just that one scrum after, like Halsey hit Hannifin into heart and then the retribution, like Anderson jumped on stalls back. I kind of like that, though, because I feel like sometimes in the first few rounds, like, it gets like, too scrummy where it's like, listen, if you want to drop the gloves and go and fight, let's do it. I just don't want to, like, I don't want to stretch these games out. Let's get the pitch clock going here.
- [38:39]
D
I think the. I think in the first couple rounds, the. The officials would probably like to just like, if you guys want to punch each other in the face, go ahead and let them do that for as long as they want and punch themselves out. But they obviously they can't. They got other. The games would last like three and a half hours. They got. They got to move it along. But now there's. There's none of it. There's really. There's really not much of it at all. And I guess everybody's probably scared of what if they decide to take one guy out of the scrum and it's me, like, what an ass. I would feel like, oh, yeah, box. Right?
- [39:11]
B
Especially Carolina's power plays finally clicking.
- [39:14]
E
Yeah, Ray, Biggest question going into game four is Bussy. Are they gonna go with Bussy or go back with Anderson? What do you think?
- [39:21]
D
I. Okay, so I'm flipping on that and like hourly almost. And one of the reasons is because Rod old Anderson so he could play game four. Like, there's in my question or my mind, no question. He got him out of there. He's like, there's no reason for him to be in here. We, you know, we're down for nothing. What the hell's going to happen? And. Except they came back and. And it wasn't that. Sometimes in those comeback things like the. The replacement goalie just stands there like, Bussy stopped Marner twice. By the way, how did Marner not know that?
- [39:58]
B
I was going to ask if. If you would realize that they switched goalies and usually somebody up top gives you the heads up.
- [40:06]
C
I think he was just that. Okay.
- [40:08]
D
But you know what's crazy with about that is that he already had a chance in the period, right? Like, he. He turned around and took like a quick little slapper and Bussy stopped it with his arm. Like at some point you would have noticed they catch the different hand.
- [40:23]
B
Right?
- [40:24]
C
Like, how about on the penalty shot, looking up and being like, oh, the gloves on the other side.
- [40:27]
B
Yeah, that's what. That's why he fucked up. He had a move prepared for Anderson, but it was busted.
- [40:32]
F
He said he was really tired from, like, getting to that breakaway, so his brain was really. Yeah.
- [40:37]
C
Okay.
- [40:38]
D
Do you not think you'd look up and go, man, Freddy's dicking with me here.
- [40:42]
C
What is he doing?
- [40:44]
D
So I. I think right now, like, as we're right now, I think I would play busi.
- [40:49]
C
Wow. I agree.
- [40:50]
D
But last night, I thought I would play Anderson.
- [40:53]
B
So. Why do you think that?
- [40:56]
D
Because I don't. I don't like or I. I don't look at the last game and think, man, Anderson let us down. Like, which of the goals don't you like, if you. If you look at it. So think the. The hurdle. Power play goal. That's pretty good shot. He's five feet in front of the net.
- [41:15]
E
The Marner slap shot. He probably should have.
- [41:16]
A
Yeah, that's.
- [41:17]
D
I. I think he should have maybe. And. And I thought. Yeah, I thought that, too. In the game, I. I think I said, like, he's got to have that one. I didn't know it was 91. And it was like, it's right off the pipe and in. But he's probably got to have that. But it. If you're looking, do you. Do you discard what he's done? And maybe you do, and you go, you know what? Bus is so unorthodox, and he was so sharp. Maybe this is the way to go.
- [41:46]
B
Yeah.
- [41:46]
C
The only worry about the day, man,
- [41:48]
D
they still got a day.
- [41:49]
C
The only worry might be that, like, hopping into that game with no pressure is so different than preparing all day as the starter. So that's maybe going through Rod's mind, but your job between the benches. So Biz has done it. Our guy army does it a good amount. It's so cool for you because you're. You're hearing and seeing things nobody else gets to hear or see. Now, when they make it 4:2 and specifically 4:3, you got to be saying, like, how is he not called timeout, right? Like, what is their bench like at that point?
- [42:19]
D
Vegas pretty calm. I said, I go, I'm really surprised they're not using a timeout because it happened so fast, right? It was 39 seconds, and porch just let it roll. And. And. Or are you talking about Carolina?
- [42:34]
C
No, no, no. Right?
- [42:36]
B
Hang on.
- [42:36]
C
What you're talking about when Vegas. All of a sudden, it's like, why isn't he calling time out? Y is when he should have done it.
- [42:42]
D
Shocked when the third one went in, I thought, holy like, they got. They got to slow this thing down here. And I don't recall the time on the clock because he might have been looking at it and going, you know what? I'm going to get a commercial time out here. And in a minute or two. I forget when the timing of the goals was, but I thought he was going to call time. There's no panic ever really on Vegas Benchmark. It's a. I would say it's a pretty calm, probably veteran bench. There's more energy and I think part of it comes from Rod on Carolina's bench because, you know, man, he's marching a hole in the.
- [43:25]
B
Yeah.
- [43:25]
D
In the bench behind the place and
- [43:27]
B
chewing his gum back.
- [43:29]
D
He's got a workout. Eh.
- [43:31]
B
His gum just. He's abusing it.
- [43:34]
D
But there is. There's very little stuff between the benches, like nobody. There's no barking or anything. And which kind of surprises me a little bit. But Carolina doesn't really have that. You know, they don't. They don't have that way about them. They don't. They're not like a chirpy team or anything.
- [43:54]
B
I feel like. I feel like that's like the one thing that Marner is emphasizing the most is like, especially in these like, comeback wins or, you know, late game heroic type things. And he's saying like, we're just a veteran group. We don't turn on each other. We never get too high, never get too low. And. And I. I don't know if these are little nuggets along the way of maybe things were in Toronto and the fact that sometimes on the bench they would. But completely different scenarios from teams. Yeah.
- [44:19]
D
I thought like, you know, of course, martyrs getting, you know, so much recognition as he should. But. But like in Toronto, none of those guys had won and so they're all looking at each other and somebody's trying to lead and they're all trying to lead and they don't maybe know how to do it. And you go to Vegas and they've pretty much all won. And so he doesn't have to lead. Even though he is right now. He doesn't have to. There is. There's just something different pretty clearly about the teams. And I would say Toronto never had as good a team as Vegas has.
- [44:54]
B
No. Yeah.
- [44:54]
F
I think maybe that's why. Yeah. He didn't. He doesn't call the timeout because he doesn't want to put that panic.
- [44:59]
B
Yeah.
- [45:00]
F
So maybe that was part of it. But I want to jump in, Ray, and ask you about the, The Crowd noise on each arena. Are they the same? Is one louder than the other? What are you seeing outside the arena with the, with the pre game festivities? All that stuff.
- [45:12]
D
Carolina's like. Carolina is deafening.
- [45:17]
B
Yeah.
- [45:18]
D
And it's. And it's noise from like it's not pumped in. It is.
- [45:23]
E
Yeah.
- [45:25]
D
That place is wild. From the. You know, you guys have been there, right? And you drive in and first of all they're doing these renos there and outside the building. And so I assume at some point they're going to have a different way of coming into the rink. But right now, I used to know the number. It's something like 2,700 of those orange traffic cones that they lay out every day. So the cars come in. It's like a county fair.
- [45:53]
B
Oh yeah.
- [45:53]
D
Just like get into your line and you. And then as you're driving in, like for like Acres, it's people that are tailgating like hours we get there. I think we got to talk to the coaches like at 5:15. So three hours early. And the place is packed. It's jammed. And you get in and you know, it's so loud. Vegas, they pump the noise in a little bit outside. You know, we get in early. So we're in there at 2:30 for a 5 o' clock game. 2 o'. Clock. It's so fricking hot. Nobody's. Nobody's standing outside there until later in the day. And then that plaza right outside the rink is jammed. Like it's packed. And it. So this is. But out of sheer noise, Carolina is. Is loud as any building that I've been in.
- [46:44]
B
And they can give it to the officials there. That was the one thing I noticed too. If they don't like, sometimes it's like, come on guys. That wasn't a call. But half of them are on their feet being like, call that. And they don't. They're like, they're like a NASCAR crowd.
- [46:56]
C
They're.
- [46:56]
B
They're ferocious.
- [46:57]
C
We never even talked about. They went tarps off in Game 2. All of a sudden everyone took their shirt.
- [47:01]
B
Yeah. What was that about? Was that like homage to what's going on in the mlb?
- [47:05]
D
No, they. They threw it up on the board. You know, when the comeback tarps off and all of a sudden there's like these, these guys and. And you know, it starts off fine and then pretty soon you're seeing some people with their shirts off that you're like, who?
- [47:17]
C
That shouldn't.
- [47:18]
B
Any tatas, right?
- [47:20]
F
No, non.
- [47:20]
D
Zero. Because you know biz. Because you were. You would have been the guy at the end of the bench. Like.
- [47:26]
B
Yeah.
- [47:27]
D
Where Kolasar is a little bit.
- [47:28]
B
Oh, yeah. Where the goalie. Backup goalie sits.
- [47:31]
C
Yeah.
- [47:31]
D
You know, guys. Guys are scanning and they're. You know, you see what's over there. It's just a bunch of fat guys.
- [47:38]
B
Can't be choosers.
- [47:39]
D
Yeah. I mean, you know what's awesome is there.
- [47:41]
B
I'm not picky.
- [47:42]
D
They're having so much fun. Like, in that building. It's so fun. Like, they. It's. It's. I don't know. It's just a different feel than they.
- [47:52]
B
They said it's full concrete, too, which, like, radiates the noise even louder.
- [47:56]
C
It's a smaller building.
- [47:57]
B
That could be, like, another rumor, like the Marner slap shot.
- [47:59]
C
No, but I heard you say on the broadcast that even. Maybe even a little louder than Edmonton from when you guys were in the finals two years ago there. Which is crazy because that place was wild. But we said, all right, so Vegas comes back in Game 1, but it was an early deficit after the Ehlers goals. After that, it does seem that Vegas is the better team. Right. And Merles has been saying, vegas in five. He thinks this thing done. Biz thinks it's done. Do you. Do you think it's over? And would you say that Vegas, overall is a better club, like, from what you've seen through three games?
- [48:31]
D
I don't think it's over because I. Now here we are. Each game's one goal. However we got there, they're all one goal. I think if you went down the lineup and you had to pick this player from Vegas or this player from Carolina, eventually you'd have more players from Vegas.
- [48:47]
E
Yeah.
- [48:48]
C
Yeah.
- [48:48]
D
Like, I think they're. I think they're. On paper, they're a better team. There is Carolina as a team, man.
- [48:57]
E
They.
- [48:58]
D
They've. They've just brought in the players that fit their system. They fit the way whatever a Carolina hurricane looks like. Think they fit. They don't have any outliers. I look at, like, Eric Robinson and Jordan Martinuk and. Who's the other one? Oh, Will carry a. Like, if you didn't know what those guys looked like and you switched their jerseys, could you even tell the difference? They go, like, 100 miles an hour. They all have four or five hits every game. They all got 12 goals this year. Like, it's crazy. And I'm like, they have the right people for them now. If I do think it's over, if, like, I thought SVETCHNIKOV played his best game of the series. Yeah, but Aho, Svetchnikov, Jarvis Ehlers again, like, he scored in Game 1. But those guys, I thought early in the series that those four, plus Stankhoven and Blake, like, they've got to get into the middle of the ice. You can't have, they don't score.
- [50:00]
C
You can't. You can't have a double overtime game that Ajo and Stank ankle and don't have a shot. That's like, the worries. How do those guys not get a shot on net in that game? That's crazy to me.
- [50:11]
D
Ajo, I find, gets pushed out a little bit.
- [50:14]
B
Yeah, he does.
- [50:15]
D
He's. And he's looking, he's looking always to play make. Yeah, but, but I think sometimes he's got to say screw it and dive right into the middle because he's going to open something up. And, and it hasn't happened. And it hasn't. He's got 10 points, but it's not. I think he's got four goals. Two of them at least, are empty netters.
- [50:35]
C
Yeah.
- [50:36]
D
Like, they, He's. They need more. Like, it can't. As unbelievable a final as it is, they can't think Jordan Skulls gonna score every game.
- [50:45]
B
No.
- [50:45]
D
And then he's amazing.
- [50:47]
B
As far as Ajo looking to delegate and make that play, I feel like Svetch is also looking to do that where he's kind of supposed to be the big powerful guy on that line and he hasn't done that enough. And, and going back to Stankhoven and Blake, like, like you saw in these other series where they didn't really have a hard time getting to the middle for whatever reason. You could talk about Vegas size, their structure, how they play, how they protect the house. You just, you watch and it's like they, they're never getting to the inside with the puck. And that's why I think that most of us agree that Vegas is just a better team and that they're going to win this series.
- [51:19]
D
I, I, I think it's going to come down to that. Like, can at some point those guys become really involved and, and if I were coaching Svetchnikov, I'd show him that video of the goal he scored where he was on his face and he's right in front of the net.
- [51:36]
B
Yeah.
- [51:37]
D
And because he's a monster, man. That guy is big. And I thought by far game three was his best. So maybe he's starting to come along, but he, he has to. They, they're not Built to have, like, Dorothy has not been a.
- [51:54]
B
No.
- [51:54]
C
Haven't noticed.
- [51:56]
D
Not at all. And yet it's okay. They flip the lines and they move Mark Stone up with Eichel and Carolina doesn't have that luxury. When they flip the lines, they move Martinuk up with Svetchnikov and Ajo. I mean, that's not the same as moving Mark Stone up there.
- [52:11]
E
Yeah.
- [52:12]
D
And so that I think the margin for Carolina is way, way thinner.
- [52:16]
E
Ray, you. You played over 1200 games and I'm sure played through a lot of injuries. That injury to McNabb, him playing through that, him playing 36 minutes last game. What do you have? Two assists. Like, he's been incredible, but, like, how much credit do you give for him just going out there and not being an absolute warrior?
- [52:33]
D
I. I couldn't. First of all, I couldn't believe he walked in and he looked as good as he did.
- [52:37]
C
Right?
- [52:38]
D
Like. Like, is this. What's his face made out of? Like, I thought his. The way that you guys saw the still photo too.
- [52:45]
B
Oh, oh, yeah.
- [52:46]
D
Like, man, like, so they put his nose back together there and you know,
- [52:51]
E
which is crazy good plastic surgery.
- [52:55]
D
And he's like, yeah, 20. You know how it is.
- [52:56]
B
You.
- [52:57]
D
Everybody's been stitched. He's like, yeah, 25, 30 stitches. You don't even know. After a while, you're like, just get me off this table. Right? Like, it sucks. And when they introduced him, like, I thought it was really cool that the arena, like recognized what was happening. Like that I. The only one I can remember getting, and it was louder, but was when Zidane Ochara broke his jaw in Boston
- [53:24]
C
and Game 7, right?
- [53:25]
D
Freaking played, like. And so the place thundered when he came out and. But what McNabb did. And so first of all, like, the guys are probably just stoked, right? Like that he's. He's even gonna try. And then halfway through warm up, it was pretty clear he was going to play. And then he plays the way he does because it's not. Those aren't easy minutes, right? He's. He's still blocking shots. He's still. Every time he runs into somebody, it must feel terrible, right? Because his head had to be like, had its own heartbeat and he. I thought he was awesome. He's got five points.
- [54:03]
F
That's what's hurting him too. After all these celebrations, I see guys comment and shaking his head up like, get away from me, guys.
- [54:09]
C
Leave me alone, man. Leave me alone. Oh, well, we, we, we. Oh, do you have anything else?
- [54:15]
F
Sorry.
- [54:15]
D
Well, I was just gonna say, like, Dame Carolina scored two power play goals in game two. They were both after McNabb was out, right?
- [54:24]
C
Yeah.
- [54:25]
E
I think if he doesn't get hurt, it's three one right now.
- [54:28]
D
He matters.
- [54:28]
B
Man. Three nothing. I just, I'll quickly ask you about Stone. Have you ever seen a guy who maybe, like, doesn't look as good doing it, but the smartest, like, just his anticipation, his ability to, like, go to the net and his, his sticker on. He's such like a perfect player.
- [54:46]
D
Nobody looks, Honestly, I, I say this quite often about him. Nobody looks. More like an unmade bed.
- [54:52]
C
He's a, he's a beer. It's unbelievable.
- [54:56]
E
His kids made his knob.
- [54:58]
D
Watch how he skates off the ice, too. He holds a stick straight up in the air.
- [55:02]
C
Why does he
- [55:05]
A
doesn't.
- [55:05]
B
No, I used to do that. It's because somebody told me. So you don't play the puck and your guys aware that you're coming off the ice? I, I, it was a habit.
- [55:14]
C
Does he knob in the air, Blade?
- [55:16]
E
I think he doesn't show off the knob.
- [55:18]
B
I used to go blade in the air too, but I'm not saying, but
- [55:20]
D
that was coaching, though. Biz. They, they said to you, biz, when you're out there, put your blade up in the air.
- [55:28]
C
Why do you even have a stick?
- [55:30]
D
It's for battles.
- [55:31]
B
Me being like, why do I need this? Why do I even need this? Anyone want this? Yeah. Yeah.
- [55:36]
D
Yeah.
- [55:36]
B
Look what I found.
- [55:37]
D
Nobody gets more.
- [55:39]
B
Gave me one of these. What's that?
- [55:41]
D
Oh, I was just saying nobody gets more breakaways slower than him. Him. Like, he's, he's not, he's so smart. Like, he's, I think he's an unreal player because I, I was doing the world junior tournament when he was still in junior, and the knock on him shocker was his skating. He was the sixth round pick in Ottawa. And they're like, the word from any scout we talked to is like, yeah, he's not going to be able to score at the next level. And he's just so smart, he's so good. And he comes, he comes in, you know, he's in his suit, his hair's all over the place, got no hair. It's like Sideshow Bob the other day, our, our audio guy, he did an interview after the second period and our audio guy, you know, has to put the headset on him. He comes back and he's like, he is so sweaty. Sweaty.
- [56:30]
B
Oh, yeah, of course he is. He's like an unmade bed that got pissed in. He's working.
- [56:38]
C
You skate. Coins is back.
- [56:40]
B
Yeah. Wait, can I ask him one more?
- [56:43]
C
Yeah, I got one more too for him.
- [56:44]
B
How would you summarize what's going on with Marner? Like this whole, like the last, you know, 12, 14 months.
- [56:51]
D
Oh, all of it. Well, he clearly had decided that it was time to go. And, you know, he said there'll be a time when he'll talk about it. Why. But clearly just the all encompassing way his life was in Toronto. He just needed and wanted another start. And he isn't contractually obligated to stay in one city for his whole life. He got to be a free agent. And he gets to the side and so ends up to be Vegas. If he would have had, if he would have had 80 points like he did this year in Toronto, would that have been a good year? No chance.
- [57:30]
E
No chance.
- [57:31]
D
Right. It would have been a disappointing year. It would have been the team, the team would have been better if he was there. But it was time for his change. And he comes out here, he gets to, you know, hide a little bit, I'd say, you know, you get. It's an easier way out here. And it's not to blame the media. It's just in Vegas, it's not all encompassing. It's not, there's 8 billion things going on here. And then halfway through the year, he plays center because they don't have any centers. Carlson gets hurt, and he does that well. Like, he, he's a great player. But this, right now, this is the, these are the greatest moments of his career.
- [58:10]
B
Yeah.
- [58:11]
D
And, and now there is, I'm sure he feels every day when he goes to the rink like there's, there's nothing that can get in his way. Like, he is, he's at, he's at the peak of his game at the, his team is a great team. They're now two wins away. And I'm sure he feels like this is like I'm, I'm right here. Like I'm, I'm right on the, on the edge here. And he's been amazing, he's had an amazing playoff.
- [58:39]
C
I, I bet you he feels like I, I knew this was gonna happen.
- [58:43]
B
Yeah.
- [58:43]
C
Like this, I knew I, I believe this the whole time. Like there's like valid vindication.
- [58:48]
B
Yeah.
- [58:48]
C
For him, like, like I, I, I believed in myself. And now it's finally, you know, coming true. Wasn't in to, I think we talked
- [58:54]
B
to him after, it was maybe after the Anaheim series. Or after the game in which he had the between the legs goal, I think it was because it was the. That was the closeout game. That was the first goal of the game where he went between the legs. And I said, if you feel like. Like, almost like a weight's been lifted from your shoulder because it's the. The farthest he's ever advanced in playoffs, getting past the second round. And his fingerprints were really all over the first two series. I think at that point he had four primary shorthanded assists. And really, I felt game three of the Utah series, he came alive. So for him, I think it's just more of the situation where he's playing with the house's money. He's on a team where he doesn't have to be the main focus and, and really drive so much of the traffic. And if he does have a. A night off, there's three other four other guys elevating their play in order to help get the win.
- [59:38]
E
But there were other players in Toronto, too. The focus wasn't always on.
- [59:41]
B
No, no, no, I get that. But I'm saying, like. Like for there to. It was a very narrow focus. Very narrow focus. Right. Because it was this Core 4. Core 4.
- [59:49]
D
Core 4.
- [59:49]
B
But. But it. It's. It's good. I'm sure it's, like, so fun for him to be able to go to the rink and. What's that?
- [59:55]
E
You started the core four.
- [59:57]
B
I never started the core four. That was.
- [60:00]
D
I wasn't aware of that.
- [60:01]
B
I never started that. It was in a magazine when they were all young. Coming up. I think it was the Hockey News.
- [60:06]
C
They had how many? It's not, will they win a cup? It's how many?
- [60:10]
A
Exactly.
- [60:10]
C
Thank you.
- [60:11]
B
Thank you.
- [60:11]
E
Yeah, you wrote it.
- [60:12]
C
All right, Ray, hold on. We got rollback. Last question. Use code chicklets on rollback.com for generous. 20 off to the. Your first purchase at the end of the week. Rho c h dash I c l e t s on r h o dash b dash a dash k dot com 20 off. Shorts, polos, hoodies, joggers and more. Stepping away from the Stanley cup final, it's quite evident that the players are running the show now more than ever. More than ever. Especially from when you play trade. Dylan Larkin requests the trade, and then it comes out. Today, it's Minnesota, Florida, or Vegas. As a guy who played as long as you did when you did, it's got to be bizarre to see how it's working now. And I think this is just the beginning. Quinn Hughes, did it Marner. Sort of did it? Not really, though. And now it's like, hey, I want to go to the best team and I want to go to a note state area besides Minnesota. But what are you thinking about all this?
- [61:01]
D
Completely. 180 degrees by what we would have ever thought or done or. Like, you never asked to be traded because, you know, of course they'd say back then because there was so little interaction. I tried. And there's no one to trade you to.
- [61:18]
C
Yep.
- [61:19]
D
Like, they would. They would tell guys, seriously, that nobody wants you. Nobody wants you. We tried, trust me. And like. But these guys are the. Are the best players on their team.
- [61:30]
A
Team.
- [61:30]
D
And so it's different. Right. Like, they're to have like the. The genies out of the bottle. Like, this is. This is the way it is and the way it's going to be. And now you can see why players are fighting for no trades and why the teams, I think, should start pushing back. Yeah, I think it's crazy that there are players that they're not even in the best five players on their team.
- [61:57]
B
Exactly.
- [61:58]
C
Full.
- [61:58]
D
Full. No moves like that. Or 25. No. Like, that's crazy to me. This goes back, I think, a year ago when Larkin said, you know, I was. We were disappointed at the deadline. And like, now I'll. Not that it became a problem with. With Iserman, but it's in your own head now. You've. You've already started the seeds of something growing in your own head. Man, if we don't make it next year, how many years can I stay? I'm 30 years old.
- [62:27]
A
Right.
- [62:28]
D
You know, like, you get to this point and, you know, I mean, that's a. That's a pretty short list. There's also. That's also the possibility that Eiserman might go, yeah, you know what? There's nobody there. Like, he's not giving Dylan Larkin away.
- [62:43]
B
No.
- [62:44]
D
And so if I.
- [62:45]
B
So what happens from a player standpoint? Do you not go to camp? Do you. Like, what's. What's the. What does he do?
- [62:51]
C
Can you call the bluff? That's.
- [62:53]
D
Yeah, you're. You're stuck now. Right? Like, you're. But if you sit, do you think the GM is going to try and move it along or if he's going to let you starve there for a couple of months?
- [63:06]
E
But it's.
- [63:06]
C
But like, it hurts him too. So it's such. It's like, who blinks? It's so weird.
- [63:11]
D
But it will also depend. It'll also depend. What if he can't get, like, we start seeing these names thrown around. You know, Minnesota is going to be. It's going to be straddle and you're off. And I don't know whoever else is in that deal, what if Yzerman's like, yeah, I don't want those guys. I want this guy? Yeah, right. Like, what if they can't get the deal done? I don't know Florida's system well enough, but who would they possibly put in that deal? Like, in my mind right away, the first guy is Anton Lundell. Y has. Has to be in it because you need a. You got to have some centerman going back. But I don't know, do they have any young prospects? Because they. They've traded for the now all the time, right?
- [63:53]
C
And then by trading Lundell, it's like, no, no, no. We want to add him and still have Lundell to try to win next year. So it's. They have the ninth overall pick, but then Eisenman's like, I don't need another pick, right?
- [64:02]
D
He's been building for 10 years. The only way that ninth pick works for, in my mind, the only way that 9th pick works for Iserman is if he gets it and he's already got a trade flipping for somebody for that ninth pick. Like, you know, that pick just kind of drives through Detroit. But it is a. That was a stunning thing to read the other day because, I mean, his whole career, right? He's. He's Detroit, Detroit, Detroit. And now. Now they got to figure something else out.
- [64:32]
E
But that's what I look at it more is like the Marna situation, where he grew up there. He's. That's been. He's only been in Michigan his whole life, pretty much. And he might be seeing outside that we don't know about where, you know, you know how good Detroit was for so long and then haven't made the playoffs there for a while. So maybe he's just sick and tight and needs a refresh and maybe there was a better way to go about it. I don't know. Then demanding a trade and then given three.
- [64:55]
B
Yeah. So the one. I guess the one question I have to you is, like, are you worried about it turning in too much like the NBA? And this is no slight on Larkin. I love Larkin's game. I actually hope. I hope he ends up in Minnesota because I think they need him the most. But, like, where do you lie on, like, what type of player deserves to be like, I want to get traded? Like, do you feel Like Larkin has delivered enough himself to be able to ask for that out of Detroit. Like, you get what I'm saying, right?
- [65:23]
D
Yeah, yeah. I, but I don't think there's, I don't, I don't think there's, well, maybe there is a baseline, but there's going to be guys that might think, oh, yeah, I'm going to go ask to be traded and the manager is going to go beat it. Did like, no, I'll trade you when I trade you. But I, I, I can't just give players away, right? Like, you just there. I, I would assume there's more discussions that happen around this stuff than we would know, like, where the agent and the manager are talking. So maybe they were getting nowhere in Detroit. And finally Lin said, okay, I need to take it to the next.
- [65:58]
E
Wow.
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B
Okay.
- [65:59]
D
I never, like, how would it, how would it not be? Like, no, he would have gone to Iserman first.
- [66:05]
C
And if they, yeah, well, your buddy, your buddy Dreg said, like, this has been longer than people realize. This has been going on a little bit now. Do you think it's, it's beyond the, the, the reason, or do you think it's possible that all the GMs could kind of get together and be like, we, none of us can give out no moves. Like, that's the only way if everyone refuses them. But then there's the one guy says, I need to sign this player, and I ain't getting them without him. You know what I mean?
- [66:30]
D
When you do just, you just talked yourself into the answer because they're, they can all say, oh, I'm going to be really tough on my. When I hand out these null moves, and then there's going to be some guy that's going to show up and
- [66:42]
C
he's going to be like, sorry, guys. Well, the, he leaves the group chat.
- [66:47]
B
The problem is, though, the problem is with the hard cap situation. Like, let's take Pareno, for example. Some people might be like, how did he get a no move? But him and his agent would say, well, we took a half a million dollars less a year to get that
- [66:59]
D
security, and he's limping champion.
- [67:02]
B
No, I, I get that. But I'm using a recent example when he kibosh the trade to Buffalo, right? Like, you're thinking about where do guys lie and where should they get them? Well, he might be on the cusp. Let's use a different guy, for example. But my, my thought is the only way they could do it is if they go like, CBA style and they say each team only gets four of them to begin with, so then at least you can go back to the agent and say, I'm. I'm handcuffed. We've already given ours away.
- [67:26]
D
Well, then that's five years away. Right. Is that because they just did the cba?
- [67:32]
B
No. Right, right, right, right.
- [67:33]
D
But. But here's, you know, the, the money trade for the no trade is the whole deal, right? Like, that's. That's the given give and take of the deal. And so the managers are like, oh, great, I got another 500 grand, or whatever. But what about now? Since the cap's going up, maybe that 500 grand, the owners are. Or the managers aren't.
- [67:55]
B
Right.
- [67:55]
D
Tied to it. Right. They're like, yeah, no, I do have a little more space because I don't. I don't know what you guys think, but I don't. I don't picture every. You know, all of a sudden we're going to have 25 teams spending $105 million. Like, I. I don't see it.
- [68:10]
C
Oh, I don't think. Yeah, I think maybe half the teams reach the top number.
- [68:13]
F
There's not enough good players to pay that extra money to.
- [68:16]
C
Right.
- [68:17]
D
Would now be a really good time to be a slightly above average.
- [68:21]
B
Oh, my God. T. Get 12 million bucks? Robinson is as. As Yan's likes to call him, aka Robertson in Dallas. Like, he's. He could get 13, 14 million bucks.
- [68:35]
D
Do you guys. I. You guys biz and with you guys. You guys played with Eric Brewer, right?
- [68:42]
B
No, but I know who he is. I trained with Eric Brewer.
- [68:45]
D
Okay, so one of the most sarcastically funny, quiet people around. So every time some. Some average guy or average. Ish guy signs for $4 million like clockwork, I get a text at about 7am From. From brew, and he. It's the same thing. Oh, Razor, how many sheets would you have made if. If you were playing today? He says the same thing all the time. And I, Because I. I had to look it up and I'm like, brew, you made $5 million? He's like, yep, turn left off the glass, baby.
- [69:17]
B
There it is. That is unbelievable. I was gonna do one last thing is considering the hardest decision as a coach is to pick which goal he's gonna start. We're gonna. We're gonna flip a coin. That's how I would do it in the coach's room.
- [69:29]
C
That's a. That's a pros coach right there.
- [69:31]
B
So I would.
- [69:32]
D
You can see why that would. Yeah, it would work.
- [69:35]
C
Imagine Brenda Moore said post game. Yeah, I flipped the coin. It was. No flipped it. Oh, that's my best. Flipped it.
- [69:41]
B
No, we're doing it right now for who's gonna start. So. So should tails be busy head? Could be Anderson, but yeah.
- [69:47]
E
See.
- [69:47]
B
Okay, well, Yan's is an unbelievable flipper. So here it is. Wow.
- [69:59]
D
There's not many people that think this stuff through so deeply. Yeah, I'm sure Rod's gonna go, oh, my God, they did flip. It was.
- [70:07]
C
Did you see Chick?
- [70:09]
B
That would go over well. Yeah, that'd be like the torts non timeout and goalie and goal challenge.
- [70:14]
C
They'd be like, did you see the coin? But he's like, well, I did an interview with Chicklets once. Biz didn't sleep tonight before. Didn't say one word. That's a true story.
- [70:22]
B
So I gave Bussy the same stuff this and he got us a shout out.
- [70:26]
C
All right, Ray, we appreciate it. Keep crushing.
- [70:29]
D
Thank you, man. Did you. You didn't get the white shoe memo?
- [70:32]
C
No. So I'm going the. The brighter Noble. Noble as to kind of pop off our sponsorship and I wanted to really stick out. You know what I'm saying, man?
- [70:40]
D
You know. Hang on. Yeah, I. You did. I don't know. What's that? My wife just called and I don't know why my phone. Am I like even on anymore?
- [70:47]
C
She's like, I saw the.
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E
We got you.
- [70:49]
C
She's like, I saw the coin flip. I can't believe it.
- [70:52]
D
She went the other way. She picked Anderson. I'm sure she did because she flipped it two out of three times.
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B
So I think. I think I actually trained with Brew in Landon at. For Fortius was he not landed?
- [71:04]
D
Absolutely, Absolutely. Landon would have had those little chicken calves in there, eh, Landon?
- [71:10]
C
What's Landon doing now in television for the Canucks, right?
- [71:12]
D
He's doing some TV stuff and learning about it and he loves it and, you know, figuring out that it's a little different than it looks sometimes. And yeah, I'm really happy for him. He's got a two year old. He's chasing that little. Little guy around. He's awesome.
- [71:27]
E
And yeah, he's doing grandpa. So.
- [71:28]
C
Grandpa Ray. We appreciate it, buddy.
- [71:30]
E
By the way, have Dave Jackson and Messier made up?
- [71:36]
D
Yeah. For which time.
- [71:39]
C
That was after. That was after the game. 2:1 and they were going at it. I'm like, I don't want. But Matt, he wasn't with Mess. I don't know if he would have been as.
- [71:46]
B
No, ESPN flew him in and then pk took him on a little shopping trip, both of them, and cheered it all up and brought the boys out for dinner.
- [71:55]
D
Okay. By the way, do you guys have. You guys don't buy at the same place PK's buying, right?
- [72:01]
B
No. I kind of think it's funny at this point where every time you get a different outfit now it's kind of like people.
- [72:08]
D
I sent him a text because I'm downstairs, and I put that. That little. That jacket he had on, and I said, I'll be up in a minute to swab the decks.
- [72:17]
B
I'm like, what are you.
- [72:17]
D
What are you wearing there? Like, it's crazy.
- [72:20]
B
I thought it was a homage to. To mj. That's what he's doing. Yeah.
- [72:24]
C
I don't know if you want a homage to him after the documentary I just watched about him, but I haven't seen that one, in fairness. Yeah, it's an interesting look. And he. I guess he pulls it off. I mean, if I wore that stuff, I'd get dance. Yeah, you should do. You should actually let him dress you.
- [72:39]
B
Yeah.
- [72:40]
C
This goes to game seven.
- [72:43]
D
Could you imagine? They dress me like. I'd be like, are you off to the course?
- [72:49]
C
Are you off to the course in Vegas?
- [72:50]
B
You got the orange yesterday.
- [72:53]
C
Okay, shout out.
- [72:54]
B
You should get the monk outfit on him.
- [72:56]
C
Biz won't talk golf. He just won't talk it. We're trying to talk golf right now. Thank you.
- [73:01]
D
I. I have seen Biz. Your swings really coming along long.
- [73:04]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [73:05]
C
You can drive the idea.
- [73:07]
B
Yeah.
- [73:08]
D
Yeah. Then get in the cart.
- [73:10]
C
Take two weeks off, then quit. That is one of the lines somebody said to him.
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A
What do you mean?
- [73:14]
C
I'm just kidding.
- [73:16]
B
The only time I play really is when we do the sandbaggers. Like, I tell. So, yeah, so it's like when I show up, I usually just get a lesson from a stranger on the. On the. On the driving ring. Whatever he told me, I just do that round and we're off to the next.
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C
Next.
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D
I think that's a good strategy, man. Solid.
- [73:35]
C
All right, Ray, keep crushing. I appreciate it.
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B
Thanks, Ray.
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C
Thanks, guys.
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D
Great to talk to you. Have a great one
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C
right for our.
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B
Everyone. I gotta take a quick hose.
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C
No, you guys go both. Go ahead, because I'm gonna do an ad read for the audience.
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F
Send some of these out to Ray out in the desert playing.
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C
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E
Yeah, I think it's cool. Obviously a guy that, with how good he was, obviously an unbelievable hockey mind. Why not, right?
- [75:37]
C
Yeah.
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E
Merle said you, you heard that they brought in 20 guys.
- [75:41]
F
I read this morning they're interviewed 20 people. I think a good name is John Gruden. Yeah, not our John Gruden, the other John Gruden. He's the head coach of Toronto Marleys right now.
- [75:50]
E
They're going to the final.
- [75:51]
F
They just won an OT last night against Penguins and they're going to the finals. How do you not look at your own guy? I know, because I think, I don't even think they were even one of the higher seeds when the playoffs started. He's put on a. On a master class of coaching. And their goaltender, they got a rushing goalie. That's just stealing games for them too. But you got to look at him. Too. They're looking everywhere.
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C
Okay.
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B
Wearing a monk costume.
- [76:12]
F
I don't. I don't believe so. Gruden, though, good guy. He was assistant coach for the Islanders, maybe the Bruins at one point too.
- [76:18]
E
With Pavelski, do you think, like, obviously, if he's coaching his kids, whatever, like, how does that even come about? Like, how do you think he calls
- [76:26]
C
Toronto and says, I'm interested. How do they decide? A Joe Pavelski, maybe he told his agent, hey, I'm interested in getting into coaching. And people have mentioned while he's coaching his kid, it's like, well, I think his kid's a pretty good player. I know he was picked USHL draft or something, but it's like, hey, all right, if I move to Toronto, he'll be playing amazing in that area.
- [76:46]
B
So here's my theory on that is. Well, one, he's. He's not far removed. So there's nothing about hockey in, in today's world that Joe Pavelski is not aware of.
- [76:56]
A
He.
- [76:57]
B
He doesn't need that job. Right? He could go do whatever he want. He's made enough money, so it's not like he's going to come in with this, like, type of stress and he's going to be able to communicate to these guys like they need to be communicated to. He was just a former player. So I, I think that a guy like, like, that would be a perfect fit in, like, knowing all like. And also some of these veteran coaches, right, like, let's use Laviolette for an example. Is he doing individual work with a player like we saw from Martin St. Louis? No, he's probably just like going on the ice, drawing up practice, and he's coming in the room and he's telling you this. This is what the structures are. So to. To get one on work, one on one work from your coach as well as from like the system standpoint to develop younger players. Like, that's what they need, need. Especially with how young the NHL is getting. So you're stepping on the ice with a young Cole Caufield. Imagine hearing from Martin St. Louis saying, hey, when I was struggling getting goals in the NHL with my size and how I played, these are the areas that I went to and with playing with this guy, this is where a majority, where the passes were coming through. So let's work on you getting it on your backhand here and then quick release there. So doing all those little drills and little work with a guy like Pavs and along with him coaching, because, man, the systems are the systems. Everybody's using the same system. Right. It's not like the NFL where you have all these schemes and drawn up things. The only time you ever have structure is off like a face off for like a play. Then it's like game on. We're playing a one two two or a two one two with a demons. It's all pretty simple. So I think going to guys that are just like closely removed from the game that have hockey sense and have a stature like Joe Pavelski. I have no pro. I don't care if he was coaching mini mites, I don't care.
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F
Well, he actually, he works pretty close with the Wisconsin Hobby hockey team. This past year, like he would go into the locker room, he would skate with them at practice. He gave every guy on the team his phone number and said, if you're ever going through a drought, you give me a call and I'll talk you through it. So he's still been pretty involved in the game.
- [78:51]
C
I don't think it's about where he's coach. It's just him as a player and him how long he played and how similar to Stone. He was never a burner either and he just scored. Now if I don't know Austin Matthews at all personally, but I think if you told him him, hey, we could have Peter Laviolette or any of these guys who've been around forever and coach three or four different teams or Joe
- [79:12]
B
Pavelski who's boys with Joe Thornton who all matched these logs.
- [79:16]
C
He's like, give me, yeah, give me a guy who I played against who knows the league a little more in terms of like what it's like now.
- [79:22]
B
And none of these co old school
- [79:24]
C
coaches, which I like, like for, for
- [79:26]
B
instance Vegas veteran group, they don't need to be taught the individual skills. They need that. Yeah, a guy like that, he's gonna sit back and you know, say what he thinks he needs to say at what time motivate the guys before the game and it's their bench right where a team like Toronto, even though, I mean we just had Ray Ferraro saying like, well, Matthews has never won, Nylander's never really won. None of these guys have won. But also to for, for the young guys coming up, for someone to relate to, someone to like teach in the game, how is, how is Peter Laviolette going to say, well, in this instance when I was struggling with this, this is what I did. None of these old coaches know that. They just bark the same systems and they have this like, demeanor about them because like I mean, did laviolette Ever win one?
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C
Yeah. Carolina.
- [80:11]
B
Carolina. Right. Yeah, 2006. So like. Like, to me, like, obviously he's a great coach and I'm sure he knows all the structures and knows how to like, play the lines and. And he's seen every situation. But he does not have hockey experience that Joe Pavelski has.
- [80:25]
C
Yep.
- [80:25]
E
Has there ever been a rookie coach to come in and take Toronto as their first job?
- [80:31]
C
Had Sheldon Keith coached in the NHL?
- [80:34]
E
Oh, that's.
- [80:34]
F
He was ahl. Yeah. They brought him up from Ohl to.
- [80:38]
C
To Marley's like NHL coach. I don't know if that's. That was his first gig because that's a top.
- [80:45]
E
Like that your first gig. That's a top.
- [80:47]
C
Like Braun w had come from San Jose. Right. And Randy Carla had come from Anaheim, Babcock, Detroit. So I don't know.
- [80:53]
B
Imagine Mag imagine Jumbo Joe as a coach.
- [80:56]
E
Pavelski would probably. She's working with.
- [80:58]
C
I'm surprised at some point Jumbo Joe will be in a front. Like the guy's obsessed with the game. I'm already doing stuff with Santa.
- [81:06]
B
Yeah.
- [81:06]
E
I think he's just.
- [81:07]
C
I think he just went and showered with everyone.
- [81:09]
B
Yeah, well, that. That and he built Celebrini.
- [81:12]
C
Yeah.
- [81:12]
F
Built the locker room for his living room.
- [81:13]
C
Okay.
- [81:14]
F
There's wooden stalls and everything. We talked about this. Who.
- [81:17]
B
Who is another former player like, recently removed that you would like to see as a head coach?
- [81:25]
C
He will be.
- [81:26]
B
He should already have.
- [81:27]
F
I. I would hope Toronto's looking at him. He did great things in Springfield.
- [81:31]
B
Well, he's so.
- [81:32]
C
He.
- [81:32]
B
They ended up beating Providence, who had this crazy regular season. Right. They were first place going in the playoffs.
- [81:38]
F
It was like the biggest upset in AHL history.
- [81:40]
B
So did Springy lose in the second round?
- [81:42]
F
They lost the Wilkes Barre in the second round.
- [81:44]
B
Okay. Shout out to Wilkes. Right. Because they went.
- [81:46]
C
But I talked to us. Chris Wagner was there this year, and when Odd became head Coach, he was R.A. about him.
- [81:52]
B
Yeah.
- [81:52]
C
I believe he made him captain, so that probably has something to do with it. But wag's like, this guy's going to be unreal in the NHL. Just a younger guy. That's a good question, though.
- [82:00]
F
Ryan get love keeping it.
- [82:02]
C
He seems gmish.
- [82:03]
F
Elliot mentioned him the other day, though, as a coach.
- [82:06]
C
Yeah, he did. He did okay. What other guys have recently retired that, like, you could see coaching? I mean, I don't. I don't know if he ever will. He doesn't need to. But like, if Anjay Kopitar was a Head coach someday. I'd be like, kind of makes sense.
- [82:19]
E
But he's got the GM vibes too.
- [82:21]
C
Like. Yeah, the legend, super star. Yeah, but that. I mean, Pavelski, he doesn't have a cup, but I know the major award type. Things aren't there, but I think he'll be in the hall of Fame.
- [82:30]
B
Yeah, but with the golf, it seems like he's a guy who likes to take matters into his own.
- [82:34]
C
I'd be more surprised Pavelski would wanna. Would do that.
- [82:38]
F
It's tough now. Like, we grew up, all the old players become the coaches, general managers, but now they all make so much money, nobody has to work anymore.
- [82:45]
C
I know.
- [82:46]
F
So it's just crazy to think that he would want to put in that many hours of coach coaching. It is. It's every morning, you're there, you're running the practices, you're watching the video, you're back for the game. It's a. You're on the road all the time. It's a. It's a lot when you have. When you're staring at 100 million in your bank account, you really want to.
- [83:02]
B
Could you close your eyes and picture Crosby behind a bench?
- [83:05]
D
No coach.
- [83:06]
C
No. I could picture him up there with George McPhee, just. Oh, he instead, like, emotional, like that is a genius president.
- [83:13]
B
He would stay stoic, but he would need a Sideshow Bob beside him.
- [83:17]
C
But even stoic Sakic we saw losing it again against, Against Vegas in that game too.
- [83:22]
A
He.
- [83:22]
B
He gave her a couple like, like under his breath type thing and then walked off into like the dark part of the room.
- [83:28]
E
Another guy who I could see coach and recently retired Derek step on.
- [83:32]
C
Oh, for sure, for sure.
- [83:35]
E
Wisconsin guy.
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C
I wonder if.
- [83:36]
A
If.
- [83:37]
E
If did get that, if he would bring in. Because both Wisconsin guys, then you'd need one.
- [83:43]
C
You need one long time coach on the st. Yeah.
- [83:45]
A
Yeah. You need.
- [83:46]
B
Nah, it.
- [83:47]
C
No go. All rookie coaches. Boys.
- [83:50]
B
Yeah. Guy off the street.
- [83:51]
C
Yeah. We're rebuilding in Toronto anyway.
- [83:54]
B
Are we as a group going to revisit the Larkin stuff? Because, like, this is.
- [83:57]
D
We're.
- [83:58]
B
We're entering like, crazy, crazy times in the NHL.
- [84:00]
C
It's just funny that, like, obviously the guy wants to go to a chance where he has a Stanley cup, but, like, it's crazy that. That Eisen would be like, you're not going there. And then he has to know more. Okay, well, I'm not going anywhere. And then he has to decide, do I play or not? Like, do you think. Do you think he can go back into that locker room if he doesn't move him and play, because I don't. He's not gonna sit out, not, not get paid. And then it's, it's, it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
- [84:25]
B
And it could be one of those things where he requested one. Eisenman doesn't move him, he does play. And then all of a sudden things turn around and it's like, oh, wow, we like repaired the marriage, we went to counseling. But then, but then you guys aren't down for counseling.
- [84:39]
E
Then it would have. Had it. It wouldn't have been able to come out. Like now that it's out, I don't
- [84:43]
F
think it's beyond repair with the fans. The fans are going to be.
- [84:47]
E
Got to be.
- [84:48]
B
That's what I said to Yans on the way over. Like, could you imagine? Like he comes out for Game 1, he's going to be getting the boo birds when he gets introduced from the, the player intros. I just, Yeah, I. When I think of the teams and who has a piece that's available and if you're looking to make a significant move, I think that Minnesota may be moving off of Wallstad. They already have.
- [85:08]
C
No, but they have a lot of goalies.
- [85:10]
B
I know, but. But there would obviously have to be one of those guys going out the door. So don't miss because if you're, if you're Detroit, you're like, what have we missed? Of every. Everything. We've missed a true starting goaltender. Right?
- [85:21]
C
So then obviously up till now you're saying. Because they could have two of them in Augustine and Casa.
- [85:27]
B
I know. Unproven.
- [85:28]
D
We've.
- [85:28]
B
We always talk about this, about these prospects, about these prospects. Like yes, I, I've watched Augustine when, when we went to Penn State. Smaller goalie moves really well, almost like a Jonathan Quick type, right? A little undersized. He's not built like these big. How tall is he? He's got. He can't be over 6:1, right? And then you have this.
- [85:46]
C
The other one's enormous.
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B
Enormous. So you six one, six one. So you. Oh well, bang on two else.
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C
Cadence.
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B
Little Cadence there with my backswing. But fuck, now I lost my train of thought. God damn it.
- [85:58]
C
No prospect, just get a guy.
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B
You have to know which one. You can't miss on that, right? All of a sudden you give away Larkin, you get Wallstead, he's your starter. Now you're trading back one of those other guys and. Or you work out a three way trade. If you're saying, oh, those Two young guys. We like the way they're marinating. We think that they're both going to come up tandem. You get Walstad, maybe you flip him to somebody like Buffalo. Broski hasn't signed yet. What like, like Florida needs a goalie. Like maybe you work out a three way and get a significant piece. All of a sudden now you get, you do get Lundell because Florida does need that. Right? Like yeah, Minnesota to me makes the most sense because if you look at that Vegas or Florida like I don't want to give up Lundell who makes half as much as Lin and he's like the perfect third line center. You already have your one I think,
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C
I think Larkin's better but it's lateral.
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B
But he sense. But so what is he going to play more minutes than is Bennett now your third line center? Like it's like. But you're paying Bennett to be a second line center. So to me Minnesota makes the most sense and that's, that's like, that's what they need the most of any of those three teams. And I think you, you, you gotta get, you gotta move something to get something. And I think Wallstead could be that
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F
piece and Dylan Larkin is two L's and Lundell's three. So you, that's why you don't feel
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E
either does Lundell have a no trade or no move?
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C
Probably that's. Yeah.
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E
Like Ray was saying, everyone has one. So I mean that could be an issue too.
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F
And I like getting the Sabers involved there. Get one of the, get, get the goaltender, get Wallstead over to there somehow
- [87:30]
B
they, and they could give up one of those four left handed D that they have.
- [87:34]
C
We're just setting up for madness. By the way, did we talk about the fact that it came out that the nice to Montreal only didn't go down because it was at 301 1. That is quote reel that Kent Hughes gave that was all over the Internet and if you're not fired, you have to honor this trade. Yeah, that was, that was. That's apparently what he said to Tree Living. Now I don't know if this is true. This could be complete Internet. But I think it is true that the deal was done and it went through one minute late.
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B
I, I love that move for Montreal.
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D
Yeah.
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B
So who, who would they be?
- [88:08]
C
It was, it was Zarovsky, the kid who was like on level with Demidov in Russia.
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B
Yeah.
- [88:13]
C
And then it was a, it was another prospect. But not Hage apparently. Wasn't Hage. And then what was the final piece. First round picks two. Two first round picks.
- [88:25]
B
Having Nys and Anderson as your. Your big horses on the wing along with Slavkovski. That's a pretty. I lo. I would love that team moving forward.
- [88:34]
F
And what's the late trade that came in this year once we got done with the extravaganza?
- [88:38]
E
Well, the Marchant one one got.
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C
That was a couple years ago.
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E
Was that.
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F
That was that one. Imagine if that one came through at 4:00'. Clock.
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C
I know.
- [88:45]
F
We would have gone nuts.
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C
Yeah. Yeah. Because that was a tough. That was a tough deadline this year. We didn't get a ton of action and I. And once again just continuing to go over this summer's gonna be crazy.
- [88:56]
E
Yeah.
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C
And this is the. Larkin's part of it. And then there's going to be a couple others that nobody sees coming. Oh, the cadre one was the late one this year. Oh, Kadri came in very late back to car. They just got the cup.
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D
Nope.
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C
Swept by the fucking Dark Knights themselves.
- [89:10]
E
Do you think Laren telling them like before, like at least a month before the draft? At least.
- [89:16]
C
Right.
- [89:16]
E
Like at least he's given them time.
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C
I think he's told them prior. That was what I sensed. And now it's public.
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A
Wait, what if you.
- [89:23]
F
You send Larkin to Florida for the 9th overall pick and then they. Detroit then flips the 9th overall pick to Vancouver for Elias Petterson. Because Detroit wanted Elias Petterson.
- [89:34]
A
There was the rumors about him. Wanted.
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B
I want to see him in Detroit.
- [89:37]
E
That's a good one.
- [89:37]
F
And. And then Vancouver can go full rebuild. You got the first overall pick and the ninth overall.
- [89:42]
C
I am not touching that contract unless he. Unless Vancouver eats part.
- [89:46]
B
They would. They would have to.
- [89:47]
C
They ate 4 million and you're getting him as a $7 million player. Bring them all day. Bring them all day. Now are they going to eat 4 million for seven more years? I.
- [89:58]
E
Maybe they get one of the goalies too.
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B
I was just going to say.
- [90:01]
C
I think you have to sweeten it.
- [90:02]
B
I. I think that if you got Petters, I. They may not be willing to get rid of him. But they just signed Demko, which I thought was a weird deal. Now you have a goalie who. Well, he's.
- [90:13]
C
But that was before Hughes got moved where they're trying to make Hughes stay.
- [90:16]
B
Yeah, but it's still a weird.
- [90:18]
E
All the time he's.
- [90:19]
B
He's injury prone and it's like. Well, if he's playing and he's playing well, he's kind of like elevating Your team, and you're not drafting as high. Like, they gotta go full. So maybe he's a piece that goes out, then, Cole.
- [90:31]
C
A lot of things to keep an eye on in the middle of a legendary Stanley Cup. Let's. Where is the warthog? Is he on the toilet? Where's the warthog right now? Bring this guy.
- [90:39]
B
I went in to take a piss. He's in the bathroom right now, just, like, hanging out in the green room, essentially. And I. And I said, hey, because he's got his hair now in the back, right? He's got the skullet going.
- [90:49]
C
Yeah, we won't see it without the head.
- [90:51]
B
I said. I said, you should braid it. And then he started.
- [90:54]
F
Ah.
- [90:55]
B
He goes, you know, I was gonna donate it, but it's got to be 10 inches to donate. He would donate that. Hair. Hair. Could you imagine?
- [91:01]
A
Look at the back of it.
- [91:02]
F
I thought I had to get up, but we got RA in. I get to stick around with the rear.
- [91:07]
B
I know. It's a tough one.
- [91:08]
E
Oh, no.
- [91:08]
B
Tough cat. Into the mic.
- [91:11]
A
So that's right.
- [91:12]
B
You're thinking about donating your hair. Could you take your hat off to show everybody what you'd be donating?
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A
Start traditionally first.
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B
Okay. All right, let go.
- [91:20]
A
Hello, everybody. Welcome to Ira's world. Here, here on Spitting Chiclets. Live from downtown Boston on Netflix. Love it. Felt like JoJo, the wheel from a Bronxdale locked in the bathroom over there. You know that the generic gambling. The hair. Okay. It's weird, dude. I was laid out for a while. I had nothing to cut my hair for. No weddings I had to go to one week, slicked it back like Jack Nicholson, 70 style. And then I was like, my. Even my father, he's never told me to get my hair cut. My life, because I've been bald for most of it. He's like, dude, what's up with that hair? I'm like, dad, I just really. I know. Don't know. It's just kind of like I feel like I'm having fun pretending I have hair again. Well, I do. It just basically. I got the Jesse Ventura Hulk Hogan missing thing here.
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B
Can we get a full. Can we get a full frontal for the.
- [92:01]
F
What do we got to do?
- [92:02]
E
Leo can't be happy about that.
- [92:05]
F
The series goes seven games. Will you go full? I mean.
- [92:08]
A
I mean, whatever. That's. I mean, I'm gonna. It's no big deal. I mean, I'll take it off right here. It's like, I enjoy you, but basically, what I. I was I did look into it, and it wasn't my intention from the jump. Like, I wasn't like, oh, I'm gonna grow my hair and donate to check entirety. But this is the longest my hair has ever been outside the top here. And. But your hair has to be at least 10 inches. I'm like, you know what?
- [92:25]
C
Who's taking that hair?
- [92:27]
A
My hair's very soft right now, and
- [92:30]
C
you love doing this.
- [92:34]
A
So, like, like,
- [92:41]
E
Holy, that's beautiful.
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C
That is
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B
working.
- [92:46]
A
If you dip it down, like. Yeah. And, like, you know, go out, like, try to pick up ladies like this. But I don't know. I just haven't had a design. Yeah, it is definitely. No, it will. And it. I. I went to, like, trim this side and I. It up, so I had, like, even off the up on that side. I wasn't really trying to make a mullet, but look out.
- [93:04]
B
Memes.
- [93:05]
A
That's the story of my hair, right?
- [93:06]
B
We got a new mullet on the podcast.
- [93:08]
A
I do want memes boots, though. I do love those.
- [93:10]
B
Oh, he's got the best.
- [93:11]
A
So, guys, did you know, Mers, you probably saw it after the second period the other night. Did you see the line for Carolina to win?
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B
You got to talk when you're turning your head.
- [93:20]
F
It's okay. Talking. Plus 8,000 somewhere.
- [93:24]
A
70. Yeah, 70 to 1. They were plus 7,000 going into a dirty period the other night.
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F
I'm out. See you guys. Game notes, 12 o' clock tomorrow.
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B
What's going on with the mics?
- [93:32]
A
All right, we're good. We're good.
- [93:33]
B
Okay.
- [93:33]
A
All right.
- [93:34]
B
Merl is out. We can't have five mics, so.
- [93:36]
A
Yeah, either way. I was shocked. I couldn't believe. I've never seen a line that high.
- [93:39]
B
And you can scoot over now. Yeah, love it.
- [93:43]
C
I want to.
- [93:43]
B
I want to be able to look at.
- [93:44]
A
Yeah. Plus, my. My back was broke again. Yeah. I couldn't believe 70 to 1 going into the third. And I was old, my dad's. And. And I. I OD'd on ice cream because, like, we. We gotta take out. Had, you know, ice cream after. After dinner. And then it was going ot. I had to get the coffee ice cream. Try to wake me up. Then I was just like a fat.
- [93:59]
E
There's no caffeine and coffee.
- [94:01]
A
Yes, there is. Yeah. Coffee ice cream definitely gives you a little. Little Jo.
- [94:05]
C
Are you sure about that?
- [94:07]
A
Which kind? Which kind was it Brigham's baby. Oh, it's gotta go. The little. I mean, it's pop and.
- [94:14]
E
Wow.
- [94:15]
A
Yeah, I was. I was I was being a hungry hungry hippo the other night, so I was. I'm such a dummy. So I kind of maybe, maybe felt the wagon once again a little bit. I saw 71. I'm like, dude, four goals. 20, 26. Not crazy. They tied up. But I was so like half asleep, like watching the game. I didn't even think to hedge it.
- [94:31]
E
Sleep?
- [94:32]
A
No. Like, I. Well, I was watching. I watched it, but I was just not thinking to like, holy dummy, hedge this. Like, we don't want overtime. I could have guaranteed myself a few grand, but I guess I was just locked in thinking on the second.
- [94:42]
B
Whatever you keep saying lately, I fell off the wagon. From a gambling standpoint. What's the longest period that you haven't gone to DraftKings and like posted a bet?
- [94:54]
C
Three days?
- [94:55]
A
No, no, months.
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B
Months.
- [94:57]
A
Yeah, Months. Yeah.
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B
Good for you. Okay.
- [94:59]
A
Yeah, it is. Yeah. And. But it is the cop. Whatever. And you know, I. I've put all the other financial stuff is in the rear view mirror now short. Like, you know, I could treat myself to $100 prop here and there.
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F
Yeah, for sure.
- [95:10]
B
For sure.
- [95:11]
A
No, this is the look like spread where the least amount of gamble I've done in the last probably 40 years of my life.
- [95:17]
B
What's your favorite future ticket that you have currently going right now?
- [95:22]
A
It was Brett Hard when he went down a 2 to 1. I had him at 100 to 1 the other night, but right now, I. I don't know. I mean, I'm looking at right now. Mine is a truck. Obviously after that game. Minus 205. Hall 470. 35 stag hovid 650. Blake 15 1. Il is 35 to 1. Freddie up to 50. So. Yeah, but these things change so quick. Like, like, like one game. You know, if I has a hatchet today, he might go back down. So if not next night, next game.
- [95:47]
E
Rather, if Bussy comes in and goes on a heater, they win the next three. Could he get it?
- [95:52]
C
No.
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A
You know what?
- [95:53]
C
No.
- [95:53]
E
Didn't play enough.
- [95:54]
A
Good. I like it. I like your style, Keith, because I did write it down. He's 121. But you know what? If you only play five games, even if he had like four straight shadows, that. That would probably be the only. The only way.
- [96:03]
E
Okay.
- [96:03]
A
He would be able to like steal the con Smite at this point.
- [96:05]
C
He came in and had three straight shout outs. They won in game six. I. I think you could make an argument wait, but.
- [96:11]
B
But is. Does it have to do more about the final. The Con smite or maybe the full body.
- [96:16]
C
I don't think it's. It's not like. I think it's like World Series MVP in baseball. I think the consmyth is all four rounds.
- [96:23]
A
Yeah.
- [96:25]
C
Obviously Marner's hat trick. You know that like in the finals it matters a little more to the voters. It's more recent, but it's not considered part of the. It's just the Finals.
- [96:35]
B
Like if Howden finished with 16 goals and Marner didn't do what he did last game and had one assist. I think that. That you could. It would be a coin flip at that point. But not the case. Marner.
- [96:46]
A
Marner and I heard you guys talking earlier. If I'm. If I'm hot run. I'm definitely starting Bussy next game. 100%. I mean looking at Freddy say percentages the first three games. 783. 885. A. 750 man. And Bussy played great and that was his first high time playing as an NHL or in that arena. And obviously Theodore knew the. Knew the boards as good as anybody. You know, obviously it was a bit of a rookie. Eric should have been hugging the post a little bit more, but just a tough way to lose a game that went a double ot. But yeah, I would definitely come back with him next game. No doubt about it. The 25 combined goals, the most through the first three games of a Stanley Cup Final since 1981. Minnesota island is 6 to 3. 6 to 3. 75 way back in the day. And G. I know you mentioned the stat earlier about Jordan Stahl, but also also NHL players to score multiple Stanley cup final goals at age 37 or older after already having scored a Stanley cup final goal at 20 or younger. Jordan Stahl with the Pens back in 09 and obviously the Canes this year. And Henry Rashad 1956, 1973.
- [97:43]
C
Marner's hat trick is. Was faster than. I think that broke Maurice Richard's record.
- [97:49]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
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C
Had the fastest hat trick record in a cup final natural hat. He's so just records being smashed.
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A
Yeah, it's good stuff. And Also the game one was the sixth most watched game one since 2000. It's good news. We always like to see the ratings.
- [98:02]
C
I know. Have games two or three come out the ratings?
- [98:05]
B
No.
- [98:06]
A
Yeah. But game one doing good. And now we got to give a shout out to this guy at nut. Dave Canalis. C A N A L e s at 10:20 on Twitter Saturday night. If the Carolina Hurricane score four goals in the third period. To tie the game. I'll get a stormy tattoo, too. Please, for the love of God.
- [98:22]
B
Oh, there's the picture up.
- [98:23]
C
I mean, this guy, he already got it.
- [98:27]
E
He's got another Hurricanes tattoo on his back. It's not like he went out on a pro.
- [98:32]
A
I mean, it's not a stale pump after a loss. I mean, he didn't say they had to win the game. He said they tied. And shout out to Cleopatra, Ink down and Raleigh. Awesome job on that. So. And he said if they do win the cup, he'll get a Stanley cup tattoo as well. So I like to give a shout out to that guy. How about the dude in the leaf shred? He remind me you. Bizarre. Yeah, my therapist recommended this trip for me.
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B
And then the bunny had the Marner jersey on. Marner on the front part. Yeah.
- [98:53]
A
Good stuff. A couple award notes. Vassy got the Vesna. You guys obviously saw the clip.
- [98:58]
C
Yeah, I think he thought he's getting arrested.
- [98:59]
A
Yeah.
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B
He was like, I haven't seen the V. Oh, yeah.
- [99:02]
C
The police came and he's like, ah. And they were just giving him the Vesna.
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A
Yeah.
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E
Yeah.
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A
Well, they. They.
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B
I did it.
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C
I'm sorry. I killed him.
- [99:13]
A
It was outrageous.
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C
This didn't work out.
- [99:19]
B
More headlines for the NHL.
- [99:20]
A
Yeah, the gut was cast somehow. And they had the dog come out. The dog sniffed around.
- [99:24]
B
He's running like an underground Florida gator ring. He's selling like exotic snakes.
- [99:30]
A
But, yeah, he has another Ven right now. Vashy. Two cups, two vessels, a con Smite. Definitely build that hall of Fame resume. No doubt. McDavid won the Ted Lindsay for the fifth time. Ties Wayne. He now has 16 individual awards, trailing just Wayne with 31. Ov with 19. And Bobby or Mario both have 17.
- [99:47]
B
Ra is a little parched here.
- [99:51]
E
I really thought Celebrini was going to get. That's Lindsay. Just like players recognizing what he's done for that team. Obviously, McDavid could get it every year, but I. I really thought Celebrini was going to get it this year.
- [100:02]
B
Yeah, no, that's a good call. I never really thought about that. I guess I just expected McDavid to get it.
- [100:07]
C
So.
- [100:08]
B
Yeah, these videos that they're doing are. Are pretty fun. So I never. I never. I gotta watch this. Vazi.
- [100:12]
E
I haven't seen it. It either.
- [100:13]
A
Yeah. And pull it up.
- [100:15]
E
Or no.
- [100:15]
B
Oh. Oh. G texted it to me. I guess
- [100:22]
C
Mar. Say immediately start paying the cops. Like my driver in Russia. When we got pulled over, he just started Throwing Rubles out the window at the police. He's like, d D, go ahead, go ahead. I was like, holy. That's how it works here. I think Gino might have tried that in America at one point.
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A
Yeah. It's good to see him get creative, though. You know, kind of like these guys. Some of them probably deep down might be coming, but it's pretty good. Good stuff. Cole Caulfield won the bang. Suzuki won the Celtic. They basically did the same thing, presented each other's trophy. Like I said, maybe they had an inkling it was coming, but. And by the way, people who are complaining about the Canadians being out at a concert the day after the season.
- [100:55]
C
Oh, shut the pack of losers say that I. I think if the Leafs had lost and done that, it would have been a lot louder in terms of chirping than it was for the Canadians. That's all. I'll say anything. I don't care. The season's over. They had a great run, but, like, if the Leafs had lost last year in that Florida series and the next night were at a concert on each other's shoulders, it would have been louder noise than had it happen.
- [101:20]
E
Than wait, even if they went to the conference finals.
- [101:23]
C
I think so.
- [101:24]
A
Yeah.
- [101:24]
C
It's just there was no expectations for Martial, so it was like all great.
- [101:28]
B
I think that you have to like, yeah, look at the situation. I think that they had an overachieving season and anybody complaining that is. Is ridiculous. If the Leafs last year, let's say, yeah, like, would have lost against Florida and they were doing that the next game. H. Read the room a little bit.
- [101:43]
C
Yeah.
- [101:43]
D
The expectations.
- [101:44]
B
They got Irish Traveler two games in
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C
a row at home.
- [101:47]
E
That also could be like, Marty St. Louis being the good coach that he is, being like, hey, boys, I want everybody to go to this, like a year end party.
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B
Celebrate.
- [101:55]
E
Celebrate. It was a.
- [101:55]
B
We're a wolf pack.
- [101:57]
E
I don't hate it.
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A
Yeah.
- [101:58]
E
Season's over.
- [101:59]
A
Yeah. Belly about some Marcus Felino. When the King Clancy goes to the player who best exemplifies leadership qualities on and off the ice and has made a noteworthy humanitarian contribution to his community. Community. Shout out to Marcus. We still got the Masterson to go, which is Darlene Landis, Goggin Taves, the Jim Gregory, Billy G, Chris McFarlane, Pat Verbeek, of course, the Hot Kucherov, Nate dog and McDavid and the con Smythe, which we got a bunch of guys down for that. Congrats to Milan lucc. Retired after 17 NHL seasons. Nine here in Boston, four in Calgary, three at Edmonton, one with the Kings. Of course, he won the 2011 cup here back in the day. Played in the 2013 Stanley Cup Finals,
- [102:36]
B
so best of luck every time over in the eihl.
- [102:40]
E
Yeah.
- [102:41]
C
First memory of kill the teammate over there. Yep.
- [102:44]
E
My first memory of Luch playing against him in the Memorial Cup. But obviously you don't know anyone, right? He was on Vancouver and he looks over, he goes, I am gonna make this game your nightmare. I was like, oh. I was like, anyone know this guy over there? They were like, don't go near him. I'm like, perfect.
- [103:01]
B
Did you guys have a tough guy that could, like, combat him?
- [103:03]
E
Yeah, yeah, we had some. Spence was an animal, but we had Luke Bardon. Him and Luke Bardon hit each other at center ice. One of the biggest hits I've ever seen. Both of them full speed. Both of them fell backwards. It was a monster hit.
- [103:17]
B
Where was. Where was that? Mem. Oh, you guys hosted.
- [103:20]
E
Yeah, actually, I want to give a shout out. Robert Irving just passed away. Who was my owner there too. Unbelievable. Guy treated us so well. One of the best owners in junior hockey, if not the best.
- [103:31]
C
So that was the first time I saw how insane Radov would go after goals. Watching. I remember pulling up the Internet. My host situate watching that game and he was going crazy. And you lost to Quebec, right? Yeah, final.
- [103:44]
E
Lost to Quebec in the final.
- [103:46]
B
Rad Love was on Quebec, right?
- [103:48]
E
Yeah, they beat us in the final. We beat them to go to the MEM cup, but we hosted. So two teams in the Quebec went and then they beat us in the finals.
- [103:55]
C
So you would have had the. Probably. Well, I guess you won the Quebec League title, so. Yeah, you'd lost that one. Maybe it's a better chance of beating them in the final. Hard to beat.
- [104:05]
B
I think I would rather win my league in. In the CHL than win the MEM Cup. Oh, buddy. If you get in there as like a host and you win the Mem Cup, I mean, that feels a little empty to me. To win your league and go through four series of. Of Vessa, seven to. To.
- [104:24]
F
I don't know.
- [104:24]
B
I just feel like it. It has a little bit more umph. I don't think you should. I think the whole MEM cup setup is winning weird.
- [104:31]
E
One extra how? One extra, the whole city team gets something.
- [104:34]
B
Yeah. Yeah. I think it should be three teams. Like play every team twice and best record and goal defer and do it that way.
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E
Yeah.
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A
Have a college team even as the host, though. I mean, that would be an accomplishment if you maybe didn't deserve to be there in a different year. Wouldn't, you know, if you still knock off all those teams to win it,
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C
do the three teams. Because you don't know. You can't plan ahead. Like, you don't know where it's going to be.
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F
Be.
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C
Oh, like, the host team is solely so that they're set up, ready to go.
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A
Well, I. I don't know if on the way over, my signal was coming in and out. I don't know if you guys talked about the combine questions that were all over.
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B
Oh, yeah. If you had to kill a teammate or something.
- [105:11]
A
Yeah, if. Yeah. If you. Yeah. Would you kill. If you were on a dessert island and only other one other dude had water, would you. Would you kill him? Like.
- [105:17]
B
Like, I mean, you could split the water bottle.
- [105:19]
A
Well, yeah, that's. That's what I was thinking. Like, I mean. And how much do you think. Think these answers actually factor into whether they're gonna draft?
- [105:25]
B
I think it's back for some teams, a lot. Like, the Rangers used to send out a pack, and it was like a psychological test. I mean, I. I filled out, like, half of it and, like, never sent it back, I think, because it was too long. But. No, but, like, I think that they look into, like, how you're. You're wired, your brain's wired, and they take it to consideration for sure.
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A
Yeah. Like, I don't. I think there was the Habs. They were having guys toss a hockey puck into a barrel and they could back up as far as they want and see if they could throw it in. It's like, I'm like, wasn't there a
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C
brick one something with a brick?
- [105:56]
E
What was that?
- [105:57]
C
Marek tweeted it.
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A
Yeah, there was. It was probably like 15 to 20 of them going around. Also, Nashville, they asked prospects to stack golf balls. Like, what? Which is, you know, impossible to do, I guess. Real difficult to see how long they could focus on a task before quitting. But, like, I mean, Whit, have you. You're the biggest golf here. Have you ever stacked a golf ball in front of each other?
- [106:16]
C
I tried to do that, but imagine being the guy guy who's like, next up in the interview. And then you get a hero, and the kid, he's trying for nine hours. And, like, you're just like, yeah. Because if you. If you decide, I'm not quitting this. I want Nashville, the draft. I will not quit the next guy in line, at some point, you're like, I'm Leaving. I guess Nashville's not picking me.
- [106:35]
B
The reason I like that one is because it also tests like where your nerves get when you're put in an uncomfortable situation. Like all of a sudden, boom. This is being put on your, on your plate. Can you now zone in on the task? And, and I mean imagine like keeping your hand steady when you have like nine strangers who were your draft stock is. Is weighing on. On in their hands. I think it's an interesting one.
- [106:57]
A
And this one, I mean it basically seems like an easy one. Rather have a quick career in a cup. A long career and no cup like long career.
- [107:03]
E
Well, yeah, but you got to answer it all one cup. Because all they care about is winning that.
- [107:09]
C
The islanders put a brick in front of prospects and then asked what they could do with with it.
- [107:13]
E
Yeah.
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C
And always I chuck it through a
- [107:15]
A
window and grab the TV and smash and grab. Make sure I get.
- [107:19]
B
So you're, you're telling me that. Yeah. They're going to judge you based on if, if, if, if, if you said how much and how long's my career? Imagine like 10 years, 50 or like one year league men.
- [107:28]
E
It's like ah, like trying to take care of my.
- [107:30]
C
Yeah, like my name's on the cup, but like I'm pumping gas.
- [107:33]
B
I'm not gonna be doing, I'm not gonna be doing meet and greets till I'm blue in the face just to feed my family.
- [107:38]
A
I put like a fake one on Twitter just because they're like the question seem so ridiculous. I might come and throw one. Like I actually thought it was real biz. Would you rather have a giant clitoris and just a nut sack or like be like no genital like Ken from Bobby.
- [107:54]
B
I, I think I'd rather. I, I mean I think I'd rather just have a huge giant nut saack with. Well, as opposed, as opposed to like, like, like just having nothing there.
- [108:05]
A
But yeah, it's just like I don't like it's.
- [108:07]
C
What's your throwback movie recommendation?
- [108:12]
A
Ari Hamilton. We'll get to that after Kill the Irishman. Awesome movie about this Cleveland gangster called Danny Green. He took on the Italian mob in Cleveland back, back in the 70s. Like there was like a bombing campaign back and forth. Not a very fun time. She lived in Cleveland. Awesome movie. But it's a two for one this week. There's also a documentary, Danny Green, the Rise and Fall of the Irishman. He was like a one man gangster. Like an Irish dude. And like Cleveland was all Italian gangsters. So I Would say watch them both. You could go either or the. The movie is very much like the documentary True Story about this absolute lunatic called Danny Green. And. Couple more minutes, we'll do a little. All right, Hamilton here. Actually, Whit, I'll go to you first. If the USA was to auction off states. This is from mleite33. If the US was to auction off states which would sell for the most in the least factor in state gdp, national parks, universities, real estate, all that stuff.
- [109:02]
B
Wow.
- [109:02]
C
So no shot at any states. And, and, and. And we're keeping politics completely out of this.
- [109:08]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [109:09]
C
Okay. I think Mississippi is probably like the poorest state. So I don't know, like, you know, are you, Are you getting rid of that state just because of that? I don't know. I don't know much.
- [109:19]
E
What if they demand a trade, but
- [109:22]
C
they'll only go to Florida? I mean, I guess Mississippi, I would assume, politics aside, California is, Is the. Is the one everyone wants. It's enormous. It's beautiful. It's on the coast. It's just got everything you need. Weather wise. Wise.
- [109:39]
E
Mountains, beaches.
- [109:41]
C
Wyoming is, Is. Is based on what biz is saying.
- [109:45]
B
Wyoming, the. The western part of it, the. The. The eastern part of it is pretty, like, flat and it gets drier. I think as a state, if you're talking like, beauty and like, preservation, I would probably say Colorado would be at the top of my list because, like, it also has like, like you can go to like, major cities there. And like, Boulder's beautiful. Denver is kind of like, like once.
- [110:10]
C
Denver downtown is tough, brutal.
- [110:13]
B
Denver downtown's awful sunny all the time, but it's. Yeah, you get the most. Most days of sun, I believe, of any state. Is that true? Because it's kind of like.
- [110:23]
C
I think it's like 300 days a year.
- [110:24]
B
Yeah. Like Calgary is the same. Same as. Well. I mean, Hawaii would be up there too.
- [110:31]
A
Oh, yeah. Good call. Yeah. I think out west, like, the states are so much bigger out west than they have that.
- [110:36]
C
Yes.
- [110:36]
A
You know, there's just so much more, I think natural beauty. I mean, it's, you know, a lot of good spots around here. But, you know, you're talking about like, Utah and like Wyoming and Montana. There's just so much like, wide, vast, open space.
- [110:45]
B
So Utah. I think that just the hard part is, is they're just. They're just a little more diff. They're different. They were raised differently like that, like, about that side of it. I think the Carolinas are underrated states.
- [110:56]
C
Yes.
- [110:57]
B
Very underrated, underappreciated states.
- [110:59]
E
I think the answer is California.
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B
California.
- [111:02]
A
Yeah.
- [111:02]
F
Right.
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A
Keith, how about this? Rank these movies 1 to 5. Casino, Goodfellas, the Godfather 1 and 2. Will call it Scarface and the Departed.
- [111:10]
E
Oh, Jesus Christ.
- [111:12]
B
Doesn't matter. They're all amazing.
- [111:14]
A
Yeah, absolutely.
- [111:15]
F
I'll go
- [111:18]
E
Godfather one. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go Departed five. I think I. I loved it, but I wouldn't put it up there. And then probably Casino 3. What else was up there?
- [111:29]
A
Goodfellas.
- [111:30]
E
Good feathers. Scarface 2. Good fellows 4.
- [111:34]
F
Wow.
- [111:34]
A
Scarface too, huh?
- [111:35]
C
Yeah. Face Garface 5. I mean, I like it, but not departed 4. Godfather 1, Casino 3, Goodfellas 2. Yeah, that was a weird way to do, like, numerical order, but that's how my.
- [111:50]
E
Three one, two.
- [111:51]
B
I would.
- [111:52]
C
I would do.
- [111:53]
B
I would do Casino one and I would do Good fellas two, three. I would do Godfather one and then I would do Scarface and then. And then the Departed. I agree with you guys. I like the depart started, but the
- [112:06]
C
end was a little ridiculous. I did enjoy the movie, though.
- [112:08]
B
Yeah.
- [112:09]
A
Yeah. Godfather. Well, water to Goodfellas, Casino, Departed, Scarface. What? I had this one. Let's see, if hockey did exist, Biz, what career or field would you be in?
- [112:19]
C
He'd be on a coach just like this, whacking away, making money.
- [112:23]
B
I think I would be like a. Like an architect or like a home builder. I like. I love architecture. And. And yeah.
- [112:30]
E
Were you into that before you had money?
- [112:33]
B
Yeah, like, I got. Well, I was like obsessed with Legos as a kid, like, building and. And that type of stuff. But I've. I've just always been drawn to like, like looking at buildings and like, you know, whether like from like, like historical ones. Like, that's why, like, I like going to Chicago. I didn't realize at the. Because you. You go to downtown Chicago and you're like, wow, like this infrastructure for a big city. And the buildings, like, it doesn't look like they've had as much wear and tear, and they're beautiful. And the, like the. The era in which they were built at. I didn't realize that there was like a major fire there 100 years ago. So for an older city, it's got this newer infrastructure. It's got cool buildings like that one parking garage that's circular, you know, which I don't. You guys know, it's got that little
- [113:15]
A
like builders by the river there.
- [113:16]
B
Yeah, that. That riverway. God, it's just. And like, even if you're driving along that highway which passes by the stadium along the wall water, like looking back in towards the sitter city. It's just. It's got. It's got beautiful pockets.
- [113:30]
A
You're a LEGO guy Biz.
- [113:31]
B
I loved Lego. And also I feel like it would be good to. To like, do something where I'm using my hands and. And I also feel like for the most part, the home building and like the integrity in a lot of the new structures is just not there.
- [113:46]
D
I would love.
- [113:47]
B
I would love to get into that when I'm. When I'm all said and done.
- [113:49]
E
I think I would have thought you would have said. Still bouncing at the sundowner?
- [113:52]
C
Yeah, I mean, but he might not have any of those tats without hockey.
- [113:56]
E
Like, well, sundowner, you'd get some tats if you were bombarded. Perry got that one. Me?
- [114:02]
A
Yeah. Work for the tee.
- [114:05]
C
Yeah, Probably.
- [114:06]
E
Py. Yeah. Probably wouldn't have been good.
- [114:09]
C
Yeah, I was gonna say it might be real bad.
- [114:12]
E
Like my backup plan was to go to like the military, so I don't know. Maybe fire. Fireman was always my dream job. Probably wouldn't have got on that. So I don't know. I'm lucky that I could. I'd be pumping gas or something, doing some shout out to the gas pumps.
- [114:27]
A
Witty.
- [114:28]
C
I. I don't. I never really thought of this. I'm guessing something with sales. My dad did that. The. The gift of gab, per se, in terms of like being able to sell something. But I. I don't know. I. I have no good entertaining answer for you there. But I would think it's. I. It's just so hard to picture anything. There was nothing else going on in my brain. Besides, that's hockey. And I don't know, you guys are
- [114:51]
A
early focus and locked in on it. Where they'll play is all right. This one obviously specific to me. And we'll finish up with this. Can you just respond with your top five Simpsons characters? We'll go from the golden era.
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B
Let's do top three.
- [115:02]
A
Okay.
- [115:02]
B
Well, it's just easier.
- [115:04]
A
I was gonna break down each one, but no particular order. Homer, Crusty, Bonnie, the drunk, Ralph Wiggum, and groundskeeper Willie. Those are the five best characters from the golden era. The sip. Whoever asked.
- [115:14]
B
So yeah, I. I'll. I'll throw groundskeeper Willie as one.
- [115:18]
E
He was great.
- [115:19]
B
Cuz you weren't guessing getting them all the time. But like when you popped up, you'd be like, oh yeah, there's an episode with him in it. So him. It. Crusty the Clown.
- [115:28]
A
Absolutely.
- [115:28]
E
And.
- [115:29]
B
And Sideshow Bob. I love.
- [115:31]
E
I loved Mo.
- [115:33]
C
I think Barney, what's it. What's the. What's the. The rich guys. What's his name?
- [115:38]
A
Burns.
- [115:38]
E
The Burns.
- [115:39]
C
He was unbelievable.
- [115:40]
A
Yeah, he was great.
- [115:41]
C
That guy was unbelievable. And you know, so was Ned Flanders.
- [115:44]
B
Oh, yeah. Maybe we need. Maybe top 10 list is the best.
- [115:48]
E
A little. What was the fat kid's name? Bart's buddy who is like the bully.
- [115:53]
A
Nelson.
- [115:53]
D
Was The Nelson.
- [115:54]
B
Troy McLuhan.
- [115:56]
A
Yeah. Yeah. Phil Hman. He had some unreal characters on that, so. Well, boys, good to see you guys once again.
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C
Sandbagger, 10:00am Wednesday. So right after game four, we got a special one. Gruden, NFL champ. Super bowl ring. Ryan McDonough, two time Stanley cup champion. And Patty Marie Maroon, three time Stanley cup champion. Went to four in a row. Hey, and these three. And what?
- [116:23]
E
Calder.
- [116:23]
C
I'm sorry. Yeah, this was about.
- [116:26]
E
This was a battle. We didn't. This one rings were.
- [116:30]
C
This one, the pink Whitney gets flowing. It's an Awesome 1. Wednesday, 10am I hope everyone enjoys it. RA Great to see you in person. Biz Keith. Fishy memes. G my. Let's see. We'll see you guys Thursday.
- [116:41]
B
Big thank you to our entire crew. It's been a hell of a run. I know we got a few more left here in the finals, but we got an amazing crew. And I can't wait to braid Ra's hair.
- [116:49]
C
Y. If you want to buy it, let us know. Yeah. Have a great day. Thanks to Ray Ferraro as well. Peace.
- [116:55]
B
Got the no locks.
- [116:58]
C
Won't happen, won't happen, won't happen again. Won't happen, won't happen, won't happen again. A bad habit. What? Worth breaking but it's taking time.
- [117:17]
B
I don't know.
- [117:18]
C
It don't matter. It's going to happen. It's going to happen again.
- [117:35]
B
Wanna.