Spittin' Chiclets Episode 661: Featuring Sean Avery

Summary

Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 661: Featuring Sean Avery

Date: July 21, 2026
Hosts: Ryan Whitney, Paul "Biz Nasty" Bissonnette, Rear Admiral (RA), Keith Yandle, Mike Grinnell
Guest: Sean Avery

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Episode Overview

Episode 661 of Spittin’ Chiclets is a lively, stacked episode blending NHL off-season discussion, wild travel and golf stories, hard takes on player contracts, the Detroit Red Wings’ seismic front-office shakeup, and a deep dive with special guest Sean Avery on his breakout Hollywood movie role. The show sticks to the classic Chiclets irreverence, with plenty of banter, chirps, some golf-induced humiliation, and more than a few deep dives into the world of pro sports culture. Notably, the crew spends significant time dissecting their recent golf trip to the UK, trade rumors, front-office drama around Steve Yzerman’s departure, and Avery reflects on working with Matt Damon and Christopher Nolan.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Podcast Milestones & Personal Updates

00:25 – 06:30

• The boys celebrate the podcast hitting 100 million streams on Spotify.
• Keith shares how returning from travel is met with “welcome home” chalk art from his kids (05:00).
• Discussion on balancing family life versus the freedom of road trips as hockey-parent dads.

"Boom. 100 million streams from Spotify. Spittin Chiclets. This is a pretty bomb ass plaque. It's heavy as shit." – Keith Yandle (03:25)

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2. UK Golf Trip - The Legend of ‘Shanks’

06:34 – 22:00

• Recap of their epic UK golf adventure with NHL buddies: Ambien-induced flights, police pranks, and relentless inside jokes.
• Stand-out story: Daryl "Shanks" Scheller’s golf trip unraveling—searching YouTube mid-round for “how to fix the shanks” over the course speaker (15:10), leading to one of the hardest laughs of the episode.
• Golf eviscerates all, even the three-handicaps.
• Tales from world-famous UK courses, caddie calamities, and the agony/ecstasy of walking 36 holes with dodgy pushcarts and no water in sight.
• Social dynamics of NHL alumni guy trips, including constant ribbing and legendary one-liners from Todd Bertuzzi.

"He YouTubed how to fix the shanks. So all of a sudden… the Bluetooth's like, you know, an unreal song dripping. Are you hitting shanks on the course? Here’s three tips to get you to hit the bolster." – Keith Yandle (15:16)

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3. Detroit Red Wings Shakeup – Steve Yzerman Steps Aside

18:00 – 26:00, 55:20 – 70:10

• The crew breaks the news and speculates on Steve Yzerman stepping down as GM, moving to “Special Advisor” (55:26).
• Raises theory that the Dylan Larkin power struggle—expressed via sharp media remarks—spelled the end for Yzerman (56:09).
• Speculates on Red Wings’ next GM: Sean Horkoff is their pick, but also names like Brendan Shanahan come up (62:22).
• Reflects on the evolution of NHL power dynamics and how player empowerment is reaching hockey from leagues like the NBA.

"Was this a loss of the power dynamic because of the Larkin situation?...Is he gonna stay more now that Yzerman is out?" – Biz Nasty (56:09)

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4. NHL Off-Season Moves & Trends

42:12 – 54:45 & throughout

• Analysis of Anthony Mantha signing with the Devils ($4.75M per year), why scoring wingers—even streaky ones—still get paid (42:12).
• Recap and debate over the Simone Nemec trade: Pasha, lifelong Devils fan, gets ribbed for his former blind optimism, and the crew debates what’s a draft "fumble" for a #2 overall pick (50:25).
• Explores larger shifts: shorter contracts becoming more common, cap implications for small-market teams like Winnipeg, and the ongoing prospect of NHL expansion into new US markets (85:00).

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5. Golf-Adjacent & Personal Stories

24:14 – 32:56

• The UK trip also included stories of one Michelin-star food letdown, a frozen butter “escape room” moment, and off-menu efforts to caddy-hunt for extra help.
• Classic “Guy Trip” moments—food, drink, and shenanigans.

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6. World Cup Soccer and Crossover Sports Culture

33:12 – 44:00, 52:54

• The team recaps the thrilling World Cup final, Messi's intertwined soccer fates, and the electric—but ultimately somber—pub atmosphere in England after their defeat.
• Observations on pop star halftime shows and the wider shared experiences of big sporting events.
• The notion that sport connects even the biggest personalities (including their own).

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7. The Sean Avery Interview: From NHL Villain To Hollywood

93:32 – 134:33

• Avery on the Journey: Reflects on landing a significant role in Christopher Nolan’s “The Odyssey,” working alongside Matt Damon, Anne Hathaway, John Bernthal, and others.
• Shooting Challenges: Details the brutal reality of filming practical effects on location for months—freezing for hours, “drowning” in the Trojan Horse, and the actor’s bond forged by adversity (115:26).
• Lessons Learned: Avery realizes the value of being a “great teammate” only after leaving the NHL and finding it on a movie set (133:02).

Notable Quotes:

“I didn’t really understand what being a great teammate was until I made this movie… I wanted everyone around me to succeed and, like, just have big days. Maybe that was Damon subconsciously, like just watching this guy lead men into battle, sorta really actually doing it...” – Sean Avery (133:13)

“Matt [Damon] was sharpened steel… First on set, last off set, carried the entire production. Like he’s in every shot in the movie pretty much, with the exception of maybe 10 or 15. This guy put one up on the board, like championship season.” – Sean Avery (111:16)

• Behind the Scenes: Banter about wild actors, shenanigans off-camera, and Matt Damon as an all-time leader.
• Industry Insight: Talks about residuals, the scale of practical filming, and why this is one of the most physically demanding movies ever made (102:05).
• Roundtable With RA (Rear Admiral): RA gives his Siskel-and-Ebert-style review of "The Odyssey", raves Nolan’s craftsmanship, lauds the visceral audience experience (95:27).
• Meta Note: Avery announces his own hockey podcast launching in September; says life has shifted so far that “people aren’t even going to remember I was a hockey player” (127:18).

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8. Bachelor Party Storytime: Grinnell’s Nashville Debrief

137:06 – 141:23

• Grinnell gives a hilarious recap of his own Nashville bachelor party: family hijinks, almost sinking a pontoon boat, and accidentally running into ex-Vanderbilt QB Diego Pavia (138:24).
• Key advice: always bring a buddy who can cook for the group on these trips!

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9. Around the League: Quick Hit News & Farewells

141:23 – end

• Shout-out to Jack Campbell, who officially retires after a turbulent but ultimately redemptive NHL career (142:15).
• Side discussions about the growing ubiquity of full-time NHL goalie coaches and how much preparation and mental work go into keeping goalies ready in today’s game (143:35).
• Montreal Canadiens and Washington Capitals off-season moves, contract notes, and a final touch on the Boston Red Sox's improbable 14-game win streak (146:12).
• Christopher Nolan’s early career and filmography gets a quick roundtable, with Memento and Prestige recommendations (147:00).

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Memorable Moments, Quotes, and Timestamps

• “He YouTubed how to fix the shanks…” – Keith Yandle, story highlight (15:15)
• Freeze-for-your-art filmmaking: “There were times we were in a pit in Iceland where I just said like, oh, fuck, man. I don’t know if I can do this.” – Sean Avery (115:25)
• Damon as a leader: “First on set, last off set, carried the entire production.” – Sean Avery (111:16)
• Discovery of "team": “I didn’t really understand what being a great teammate was until I made this movie…” – Sean Avery (133:02)
• Hockey business reality check: “If your second overall pick is getting traded after two years, that’s not a win.” – Keith Yandle (52:05)
• Iserman out: "Was this a loss of the power dynamic because of the Larkin situation?" – Biz Nasty (56:09)
• Boys trip, bachelor party lessons: "If you got a buddy who's a good cook… Automatic invite for a bachelor party." – Grinnell (138:35)

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Hockey Headlines: Contracts & Off-Season

• Anthony Mantha to Devils: $4.75M per year, two years. The crew likes the price and fit but expects streaky play.
• Zegras and Drysdale to Philly: Zegras, 4 years, $9.1M; Drysdale, 4 years, $6.5M (81:26).
• Kirby Dach contract: Habs sign him for one year at $3.6M, in hopes of a resurgence (89:31).

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Cultural & Pop Takes

• World Cup Banter: The crew playfully analyzes Messi’s clash with a former baby-in-bathtub Spanish star, raves the pub energy in England, and comments on halftime acts like Bieber and Shakira’s enduring sway (34:45).
• NHL Expansion Chatter: Rumors of four new U.S. teams and league “watered down” talent if/when that happens (85:12).

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Final Thoughts

Episode 661 is classic Chiclets—the brashness, brotherhood, storytelling, and deep dives into the real pressures of the NHL and post-hockey life. Sean Avery's segment is a unique, honest look into the world of elite Hollywood and self-discovery, while the rest of the show serves up no-stop stories, contract banter, and hot takes on the direction of the league.

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Notable Timestamps

• Spotify plaque & family talk: 03:25–06:30
• Shanks golf story: 15:16
• Yzerman fired / Detroit drama: 55:26–70:10
• Sean Avery joins: 93:32
• Rear Admiral’s movie review: 95:27
• Avery on teamwork & Damon: 111:16, 133:02
• Grinnell bachelor party tales: 137:06
• Jack Campbell retirement: 142:15
• Red Sox streak/Movie talk: 146:12–149:58

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Summary by Sections. Speakers quoted directly where noted. For full stories and context, listen to the referenced timestamps.

Transcript

[Ryan Whitney]

Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is barstool sports.

[Biz Nasty]

I brought it towards the coyotes and I asked them if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chicklets podcast full time.

[Keith Yandle]

Ryan Whitney's got a pink Whitney out there now.

[Biz Nasty]

Sandbagger. Get that on camera.

[Keith Yandle]

Keith Yandel, the song commander, is a full time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris Bates.

[Yan Stastny]

Whoa, we're buzzing right now. Spun.

[Keith Yandle]

What is up, folks? Welcome Back to episode 661 of the Pinkies Up Spit and Chicklets podcast. What is going on, Biz? Great to see you, Yance. What a week we had. Gee, can't wait to hear about your bachelor party. But shout out pink Whitney. Not anywhere in England. We did not see any pink Whitney. We saw a lot of.

[Yan Stastny]

Only thing we didn't see.

[Keith Yandle]

The only thing we didn't see, basically. But shout out Pick Whitney and shout out everyone who's ever tried it or is willing to try it if you haven't yet.

[Biz Nasty]

Before we get to the trip. Noah Khan, hole in one the round. You were probably supposed to be playing with him. Did he reach out to you?

[Keith Yandle]

So it was never. No, I've told you like a hundred times, no, he has not reached out to me. He's only spoken to you. He has not reached out to me, but I'm not going to say that I was supposed to play with him because once again, this goes back to you in which you told me he can play Monday morning. And I was like, oh, but we had to record. We recorded that day and then we were leaving that night. And what do you know? At one of my favorite golf courses in the world, Boston Golf Club, he gets an ace. He gets a friggin.

[Biz Nasty]

That should have been yours.

[Keith Yandle]

I'm not gonna say that's my ace. No, that's your words. No, no, it was my. It was my here. It was my gonna be witness ace. I was gonna witness the ace, but I was not. Now I had talked to the boss, the golf pro, who had said the day we were trying to golf, I think that was Friday when I went to the show and we were. He's like, yeah, we could play here in the morning. But once again, I never heard from him. He's a busy man. Unfortunately. I saw he had to cancel a

[Biz Nasty]

shows reaching out to me or something.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, it's his. It's from his Instagram, isn't it?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, but it somehow falls. I mean, you guys said he's the

[Keith Yandle]

best prankster going, so, I mean, yeah, the song My. My playlist continues to. Oh, speaking of that, I should go get it. We. I got a special gift from Spotify boys. I got a. Did I show you that?

[Biz Nasty]

I believe we might have mentioned it in a prior episode. Or maybe it was someone.

[Keith Yandle]

Let me go get it. Let me go get it.

[Biz Nasty]

G. When we signed on, G texted it to us. G text it.

[Abes]

Okay.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah. Which is nice.

[Biz Nasty]

Is very cool.

[Yan Stastny]

And then this. This will tell you how big the wet dog's house is with how long it takes them to go get this. So all you folks at home listening, it's been about 10 seconds right now. Where. Where are you? Where are you right now? Biz.

[Biz Nasty]

I met my friend Jackie's in North Vancouver, British Columbia. Had a great boating weekend. We went on the boat Saturday. Nice shout out to the. Okay here. He's back. He's back. Very modest. Must have been at the top of the stairs.

[Keith Yandle]

I think you just made fun of me. But what did you say?

[Biz Nasty]

No, Yan said you're going to know how big this guy's house is based on how long it takes them to go get this.

[Keith Yandle]

That was like maybe 11 seconds maybe now. OK, here it is. Boom. 100 million streams from Spotify. Spitting Chiclets. This is a pretty bomb ass plaque. It's heavy as shit. Through my forearms. My four. My forearms. Okay, Wyatt, My forearms.

[Biz Nasty]

My four gets it.

[Keith Yandle]

Now this is the bronze medal type of award that Spotify gives up. So my guess was that silver medal is 500 million and gold is a billion streams. My wife.

[Biz Nasty]

We're gonna be podcasting when we're wearing diapers if we want to get to 1 billion streams.

[Keith Yandle]

Talk. Yeah. Talking about bladder issues and other things. Now, my wife did have to mention. Oh, you gotta. You got a bronze and you got a silver now. You think you'll ever get a gold in anything? I'm like kind of unnecessary. Although it was away for five nights.

[Biz Nasty]

I was gonna ask you guys this exact thing. So as married guys who have children, when you get to go on that type of trip, is it. Is there a little bit more duty when you come home? Is it kind of like. Is there a little. Especially with your kids are a little younger, right? So it's a lot more your partner's lap in more difficult years. What is the. The feeling when you get home?

[Keith Yandle]

Bro, I got home to the driveway in monster like seven foot bubble letters. Welcome home dad in chalk, giant hugs. Just love all over the household. Just love. The entire time I was away. I, I, I, I, I just. I salute her and saluted her. I bowed down and I was like, now, granted, here's. Here's a side. Side factor. Wyatt was in Nantucket all week with my. With my mom. So that's why it is the. He's the heart and soul of this household. Right? Like, it's there. He makes things a lot better, and at times, he makes things a lot tougher.

[Biz Nasty]

But.

[Keith Yandle]

But overall, you know. You know, when he's not here, you just know more than anyone else. So I think that probably created a little easiness, a little more easy writing

[Biz Nasty]

the welcome home wit of the welcome

[Keith Yandle]

home dad words in there. And Keith and Keith's girls are older, so that's not really an issue.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, I slept yesterday from. Well, we had to go back. I flew to Boston with wit, and then I had to go to Baltimore because my girls were here in Baltimore for a lacrosse tournament. So I met them in Baltimore. And. And last night I slept from 9 to 11:30.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, wow.

[Yan Stastny]

Completely out cold. Like, it was just such a grueling day of trip. And then I had to drive two and a half hours today, so that was probably my punishment driving the two and a half hours to Delaware. And then we got another tournament this weekend coming up, and then tournaments are done for the summer. Busy boy.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, thank God you grind the girls lacrosse.

[Pasha]

It's.

[Keith Yandle]

I mean, it's no different than the youth hockey madness. Know, you guys have had, what, 20 tournaments this summer.

[Yan Stastny]

But at least. Least yours is during the winter.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, no, well, mine are, but plenty of kids riders age are all summer too. It's crazy. And granted, you're outside during the tournaments. You're not in some dump rink in July, but sh. Yeah. Shout out our trip. Shout out Dan Cleary, Sean Horoff. They put this thing together. We had a blast. Incredible time. The way Keith. Keith started off the trip, I mean, he almost gave me a goddamn heart attack. Like, we. We left. We had a nice meal at the airport, took an Ambien. Right? Because you have to sleep on the way over. You have to sleep on the way over. We were next to each other on the plane. He was asleep in seven seconds.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, yeah. Like me. Like me in Detroit when you guys put me in the burrito in the hallway.

[Yan Stastny]

Exactly.

[Biz Nasty]

The minute the ambient would hit my tongue, I'd be like, done.

[Ryan Whitney]

He.

[Keith Yandle]

And I was like, oh, I thought we'd Talk for like 30 minutes before we try to go to see he's done. So we land and. And we land about 45 minutes before Commodore Horkoff. Cleary. Who else? Samsonov have landed. And we're all going to take the same bus to the hotel. So me and him are just sitting there, grab a coffee. I'm reading the paper. The papers, like, you know, they hadn't played yet. England hadn't lost to Argentina yet. The paper, the first 10 pages are just soccer. Soccer. I loved it. It was like, you could tell the whole place is alive. So he went over to get a coffee, and I'm just sitting there, and all of a sudden he's. He's being escorted over to me with the fear of God in his eyes by a police officer with the machine gun. And he's like, dude, dude, dude. And the officer's like, is this your friend? I'm like, yeah. He's like, take his bag. He's like, dude. He's saying he's going to cavity surge me. I'm like, what did you. And I'm panicked. I'm like, what? All of a sudden, this cop starts dying, laughing. He's holding this gun. I'm surprised. He just started shooting a couple rounds. I gotcha.

[Yan Stastny]

I love you.

[Keith Yandle]

I can't do an English accent. I love you boys. Holy. Can't believe you're here.

[Biz Nasty]

I was like, he was a Chiclets guy.

[Keith Yandle]

He was a Chiclets fan. He said he took the job at the airport because it gave him a longer commute so that he could listen to the show on his commute.

[Yan Stastny]

I swear to God.

[Keith Yandle]

I wrote Luke, Luke, Luke. I wrote Luke. Cop cavity search in my trip notes. So shout out Luke, buddy. He is a great guy. He actually told me so.

[Biz Nasty]

Your first thought when he goes, hey, I'm a chicklets guy. You're like, hey, let's fuck with Whit.

[Yan Stastny]

Well, I. I went to the. I went to use the bathroom and then he stopped me walking over it and I was like. He was like, oh, can I grab a picture? And I go, oh, wit's here too. Why don't we get a picture with him? And as we're walking over, I go, you know what? Let's just throw a little prank at him. I go, pretend like you're going to arrest me. Like, have the gun go and say you're going to cavity search me and everything. And I had the look. And he played it off like he was a professional.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. Oh, he. This guy played it off like they played me like a fiddle. But Keith's acting skills, like, there was no. I didn't think you could have pulled that off without smart, buddy. He Was like that.

[Biz Nasty]

You just went white and you know those ones.

[Keith Yandle]

Yes. It was like your acting ability to be honest. And it was an actor and the

[Yan Stastny]

best was what's his name was with us. Shanks was with us too. So. And he had, he barely even knew us. One of the guys who was a late ad to the trip.

[Biz Nasty]

That was the hazy ad. As opposed to hazy.

[Yan Stastny]

Yes, yes.

[Abes]

Bro.

[Biz Nasty]

Why is Whit laughing so hard?

[Keith Yandle]

Bro,

[Biz Nasty]

this, I want to know all about him, okay? I want to know all about, I want to know what he had for breakfast.

[Keith Yandle]

Darryl Scheller, great guy. The fact he just called him Shanks. I, so he's Shank Scheller. Ok. Oh, he was shanking on a golf trip. If you leave a golf trip and you nickname Shanks, you had the worst golf trip of your life. Yep. Okay, so this guy, no business. What happened to this guy on the last day? I, I, I was crying. I'm gonna start crying now. Great guy. We meet him, he's the first to arrive. He comes up, he's like, hey, Whit, Keith. I'm Daryl. I'm feeling, you know, I came, I'm like awesome, awesome dude. Very, very, very nice guy. And I, and I, I believe he's a three handed.

[Biz Nasty]

No, no, there's no three, there's no. Unless it's Justin Williams. I don't believe you.

[Keith Yandle]

I, I believe he's a three handicap. I actually know he's a three handicap because he's Bertuzzi's buddy. He's Bert's buddy and we had a great time. Now he, he played the first day we played with him. Keith, he was great. He shot 77 like he was and once again great guy. But as the trip went on and you know, they're drinking and he's kind of playing a little worse and worse and worse. So you get down to the final two rounds of the trip. We're playing.

[Yan Stastny]

Mind you, he's the oldest there too and he's drinking like a viking.

[Ryan Whitney]

And yeah,

[Biz Nasty]

you guys are talking about how much you're golfing and the fact that Yan's, before we hopped on, he said that there's, there's, there was only one time you got to use carts

[Keith Yandle]

and yeah, the last day. The last day.

[Biz Nasty]

And, and yeah, no legs. Hey. And then, and then no patties.

[Keith Yandle]

This. Yeah. Oh yeah, we'll get into it. And once again everyone, we'll get into the news. You know, Connor Bedard, our big contract, Steve Isman and the Steve Eisenman story that comes back to the golf trip a little bit crazy enough.

[Biz Nasty]

So does.

[Keith Yandle]

So we get the last two. The last two rounds. The last two rounds. Sat. Friday's round is at this place. St. George's Hill. I think it was my favorite course. I loved it. No, that's Royal St. George's that was a different one. This place was sick.

[Biz Nasty]

Now the golf guy.

[Keith Yandle]

We did the trip championship on the final two rounds. So the lower money winners, the lowest money winners because you always try to make it so everyone pretty much wins the same amount of money like that. That figures out the draft order the night before the trip championship. Then you have a partner and then you're playing two rounds and it's just stroke play with. With everyone's strokes and it's best score at the end of the two rounds win it. So Ray Whitney, he had I think the second pick, right? Or first.

[Yan Stastny]

First.

[Ryan Whitney]

First.

[Keith Yandle]

And they wouldn't let him and. Yeah, and. And be based on like, it's kind of. It doesn't even matter. You couldn't. You couldn't pick certain people. He could have taken Mike Commodore. Mike Commodore is a hell of a.

[Biz Nasty]

Played together in the bagger.

[Keith Yandle]

Exactly.

[Biz Nasty]

Their chemistry is unmatched.

[Keith Yandle]

And wizard hadn't played with Shank Sheller yet, but he'd been told that Shanks was like a really good player. And you know, once again.

[Yan Stastny]

And his name wasn't Shanks yet.

[Ryan Whitney]

His.

[Keith Yandle]

His name wasn't Shanks yet either. And once again he is a good golfer.

[Ryan Whitney]

So.

[Keith Yandle]

And I hope I'm. I hope I'm gonna be able to get to this story. So the first round they shoot. They shoot two under. They're in a great spot.

[Biz Nasty]

That's unreal.

[Keith Yandle]

Who was three. Who was three under? Somebody's in the lead. Oh, it was. It was Nyquist and Mike Commodore. So Nyquist is the best golfer on the trip. He ends up with Kami. And they're three under after the first round. But Shanks and Wizard are. And he's not Shanks yet. They're two under. They're right in the mix, dude. They're paired together the last day in the final group. Ok, first hole, Shank. Second hole. I think there was another Shank. The third hole he goes Shank, Shank, Sheller. He just lost it, buddy. Listen, this is. I haven't got to the part that made me cry. Laughing. His phone is connected to the speaker to play the music. All right, Biz. So he's pumping out the tunes and he's in control. He's got the aux cord and all of a sudden, the guys hear the music stop. Wizard hears the music stop. Wizard telling me this story. I would go back in time and play.

[Biz Nasty]

No way.

[Keith Yandle]

He youtubed how to fix the shanks. So all of a sudden.

[Yan Stastny]

No,

[Biz Nasty]

you.

[Yan Stastny]

No, I'm over here reading don't kill myself books.

[Keith Yandle]

The Bluetooth's like, you know, an unreal song dripping. Are you hitting shanks on the course? Here's three tips to get you to hit the bolster.

[Biz Nasty]

No. My God.

[Keith Yandle]

And that's when you know. And buddy, this poor guy whole.

[Biz Nasty]

That was hole three.

[Keith Yandle]

There's a third hole.

[Biz Nasty]

That's a long round, buddy. That's how long.

[Keith Yandle]

And you know, Wizard. And Wizard's so good.

[Biz Nasty]

That was like me Googling how to skate when I was playing.

[Sean Avery]

How to make a tape to take.

[Keith Yandle]

It was me before the cup final, how to throw a body check. And the whole. And the boys hearing me YouTube it, but.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, man.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. Great guy, though. Great guy.

[Abes]

How was the.

[Biz Nasty]

How Was the last 14 holes or 15 holes?

[Keith Yandle]

I think he. I think he ended up saying he hit like 11 total. And I think he might have had four through three. So there was still seven more out there. Right? Just. And what's funny is on the range beforehand, I walk, I. I drove the cart up, and then I see him striping him. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Biz Nasty]

This happened.

[Keith Yandle]

I pulled the card up, I'm mixing my drink, and I just look up and I see a hosel rocket going 100 miles an hour, dead right. I was like, whoa, Daryl, Daryl. Little did I know that now when I see him, I'll just be like, yo, Shanks, what's up, bro? But he kept being like, I'm good at golf. I'm like, I know you are. I played with you first round. I saw you're very good at golf. But I mean, having.

[Biz Nasty]

Do you think that's fully mental or you think that's booze? And also, like, when you fatigue.

[Keith Yandle]

It was fatigue. It was 15.

[Biz Nasty]

I would have been toast. That's a lot of golf, man.

[Keith Yandle]

We got better. No, Nyquist is always nasty. I won't. I don't.

[Yan Stastny]

Call me, call me. Because he's a legit Viking.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. Actually got really good. Call me. Got. Call me. The last two rounds was incredible.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah. He's just built for long lasting events.

[Keith Yandle]

I actually think wizard scored better every single round.

[Yan Stastny]

When we were walking, the one day we were walking, someone was like, Jesus Christ, come. He looks like a Clydesdale just because he's so big.

[Keith Yandle]

His hair, he's enormous. And his hair, when we went out the one night Ernie ells, buddy. His hair's down to here right now. It looks phenomenal. But it was like just out of the shower, maybe some products slick. And Keith, I, I want to say five hours later outside a pub, you know, I mentioned how excited I was to have drinks outside the pub and Keith goes, look at. Call me buddy. His hair was three feet out, both sides.

[Biz Nasty]

Just Sideshow Bob.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, I think, I think what it. Somebody asked him, is that your natural hair color?

[Yan Stastny]

But it was the one liners on that trip, man.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, a lot of stuff.

[Biz Nasty]

So who are, who are the other guys? You guys mentioned some other guys last, last time. Oh, you. Because you, you drew in Eisenman Horoff so that that news drops when he's on that trip.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

And, and, and Cleary works for the Red Wings too.

[Biz Nasty]

That's right.

[Keith Yandle]

Guys. We didn't go on this trip for I think six or seven years because they've just been so busy. And then like, you know, Hork son was. He was doing a ton with him and now Will's 19 or 20 and it was just kind of the timing wasn't right. And of course we go back on the trip and the whole Iserman thing, you know, happens, but that was more just like all of a sudden Hawks on the phone the whole time and, and if they stay within the organization for their next hire, I'm pretty sure it'll be Sean Horkov.

[Biz Nasty]

Like, okay, wow.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. And I think it would be the best decision the Red Wings can make personally. But obviously there's going to be all these interviews and but almost get into that. I do have to tell Commie told a story that was incredible. So Kami, his first year pro, was playing. I believe he was in the minor. Yeah, he was in the minors and he got called up and he was paired with Scott Stevens and they were playing the Penguins. And the first two periods, he said it was the cleanest hockey I've ever played. No chances against nothing going wrong. We got the lead and all of a sudden in the third period, Mario Lemieux decided to turn it on. He goes the heat got turned up 66, had four points. We lost. And next game I'm sitting there getting dressed, tying my skates and look down and it's an Albany River Rats jersey. I had the world by the balls for two periods.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, two periods.

[Sean Avery]

Where was.

[Biz Nasty]

So he was in jersey.

[Keith Yandle]

He was in Jersey. That dude drafted?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, Lou.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, I played every round with Todd Bertuzzi Biz. I love him.

[Keith Yandle]

He is.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, I heard.

[Yan Stastny]

I never met him.

[Biz Nasty]

Raves about him.

[Keith Yandle]

He's the most like, he, he's such a good guy. Like, he's honestly one of the most loyal good guy. I don't say whatever the you want about him. If you've ever met this guy. He's unbelievably funny and he's got. He's one of those memory guys. He remembers everything crazy. Every single thing.

[Yan Stastny]

You mentioned one guy, he had a story. He told you how much he loved him. Had an unbelievable story about him. He was all time. You forget some of those guys, like the wizard and, oh, Bert and those guys, like, they played. They were in the 20 years, early 90s, you know what I mean? So they had different stories than we've ever heard.

[Biz Nasty]

So it was a ball, just Bert, like in his. His new Gigas coach, he loves it. Yeah, yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

He said they're. I think they were. I think they were 61 and 6 that.

[Biz Nasty]

I think they won. They won it all.

[Keith Yandle]

And he has a whole team back.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, they had like 17 rookies or something like that.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

So one thing we didn't mention is the logo you sent the group chat before the tournament started. So this was the full logo for everybody, for both teams.

[Keith Yandle]

Very funny. And we'll throw it in. I don't have the T shirt on me right now.

[Yan Stastny]

I meant to wear mine, but I sent it home.

[Biz Nasty]

Who thought of that?

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, for sure, Cleary and Hawk. But, you know, if you're listening on the audio, it's. It's a silhouette of me with the saber sword with the, you know, the worst chug of all time. And the funny thing was when I opened the package with all the stuff we got, I, I, I just looked quickly and I thought it was like somebody with the claret jug shout out that guy. Ryan Fox. Oh, my God, what an incredible story. And win. That was for me.

[Biz Nasty]

So I was gonna ask you. You were there while. While that started, right. Because it just ended, I believe, yesterday. And the them England advancing to the semifinals. So a lot was going on.

[Keith Yandle]

No, no, England had already advanced when we went.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, we knew they were playing.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, we knew that they were in the semis. So we got to watch a game. We got to watch the game at a pub. That pub was awesome. I don't remember the name of it,

[Yan Stastny]

but half indoor, half outdoor. It was cool biz.

[Keith Yandle]

And you went up doing nothing.

[Biz Nasty]

The Guinness pints.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. Yes, I was drinking Guinness at that. And they went up one nothing, and the place went bonkers. Incredible. And then England, they just sat back. They like. It was bizarre. I was like, I don't think this is the team you want to just sit back against. And then messy magic, and boom, they lose two one. The play. You could hear a pin drop. We immediately all left. We were like, all right, because there

[Yan Stastny]

wasn't much time left, right, when they. When they went up one nothing.

[Keith Yandle]

No, they went up one nothing with, like, 35 minutes left or 40 minutes. And that's why.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

And then they subbed out two offensive players, apparently, for, like, midfielders, and just sat back and then.

[Keith Yandle]

And then subbed out this Declan Rice, who plays for Arsenal, who's nasty. And the guy next to me is like, what the. Why is he coming out? And then, like, all of a sudden, like, bing, bing, bing.

[Biz Nasty]

Like, something you would never know, eh? And then this guy just. Boom. You should have seen Irish Merles.

[Yan Stastny]

You should have seen how fast Wit sprinted out of this bar so we could beat.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, you mean just walking normal pace for.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, true.

[Keith Yandle]

Speaking of. Speaking of walking, so the first place we played Sunningdale, which is incredible. I. I, like. I love this golf. It was sick. But we show up and, you know, oh, where are the cat? No, we. We had caddies, right? We had caddies. We show up and I was the third group, and I'm sitting there with Keith, and I see Cleary go to the first tee, and then I see him walking off the tee towards the clubhouse. I'm like, where's he going on and on, and he. And he's walking back over with push carts. I'm like, what's he doing? And I go out. I'm like, what are you doing, Barry? He's like, there's no caddies. I was like, what? He's like, there's no caddies.

[Biz Nasty]

Especially for a course you've never played before, I'm assuming.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. So we went and bought the book where you can read. Like, you could see what every hole is and where the bunker is, you know, how far to hit it and stuff, but it's like, oh, my God. So we're finished around. And the next day we're playing Royal St. George's which is incredible. We knew we had caddies there, but we were back Sunningdale Thursday. It was the only day of 36 holes because they have two courses. And I'm like, oh, at least we have courses for Thursday. He's like, we don't.

[Biz Nasty]

No caddies for the Thursday for the 36 holes, I wore my nobles because

[Yan Stastny]

my feet would have hurt so bad.

[Keith Yandle]

Not his noble golf shoes either. His journey twos, where he's like, the journey twos.

[Biz Nasty]

How are the knees after, though?

[Yan Stastny]

Unreal. But having a push cart, I think is worse than even, like, carrying a bag because you're pushing this thing up.

[Biz Nasty]

I like doing it if I'm playing 18, but I'm playing like. Like I would be playing once a week, max. It's. It's good for exercise. You get your legs going, everything like that. But you guys are trying to go through this, this. This gauntlet of golf matches.

[Keith Yandle]

And then the first day, it was, you know, you land, you go there, you play. And, like, I got a beer, but there's no cup holder in the push card. So I'm like, oh, this is kind of like finish. Finish the beer over there. There's no cart girls or anything. But I was like, oh, Scrabble water, dude. There wasn't a water. There wasn't a water to be seen. I don't know if there's water in that country. So, like, guys are coming in.

[Biz Nasty]

Potato chips and lamb. That's it.

[Abes]

Funny.

[Yan Stastny]

Funniest line. Funniest line of the trip. We're on. We're on, like, 17. First round, we're playing with Bert. I go, dude, how dry is your mouth right now? He goes. He goes. Still having a cig.

[Biz Nasty]

He's just old school throwback.

[Pasha]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

What other stuff, though? He's just like one liner after. One liner after one liner.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, it was. Yeah. And it's hard to just like.

[Sean Avery]

I don't.

[Keith Yandle]

I don't know.

[Biz Nasty]

Hard to describe.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, it's hard to describe.

[Ryan Whitney]

Just.

[Keith Yandle]

Just like any. Any guy's trip. I mean, it's just, like, so funny. There's just like, so many times you're laughing. Great people. So Teddy Purcell has lined up for us. Al Michaels. So Teddy's close with Al and his son. Do you know that Al Michaels has never eaten one vegetable in his life?

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

And there's actually an interview that I. Because I didn't believe Teddy.

[Yan Stastny]

He talks about it all the time.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, there's an interview where he's talking about it. He's like, I would never eat a vegetable. And the guy interviewed him, and I think it's like. It looks like it's one of those, like, dead serious interviews that they do for, like, legends. You know that one who does that guy. Who's that guy who does the mysterious interviews?

[Yan Stastny]

Al Michaels.

[Biz Nasty]

That's what I. Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

But no. So we're gonna get. We're gonna get Al Michaels on Samson Offset. He'll. Come on. He's great. Sammy's got some crazy stories about Russia played in Boston. Yeah. Now he works for Dan Milstein. I think it's Gold Star Agency. He has, like, tons of Russian clients.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay.

[Keith Yandle]

All Russian clients. So. But the other part of the. The trip. I have to talk about it.

[Biz Nasty]

Does Al Michaels have a reason for not eating vegetables?

[Keith Yandle]

He goes, look at them. Why would you look at it? Look how gross they all look. Why would you want.

[Biz Nasty]

I think from an. Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

Nutrition. He must take.

[Keith Yandle]

What about a carrot? He's like, what about a carrot? He's like, you look at a carrot, you think a carrot looks good? And the guy's like, yeah, I guess you're right. He's like, I'm never eating one.

[Biz Nasty]

I mean, I like crunch. I like. I love carrots.

[Keith Yandle]

You love vegetables, dude. You love vegetables.

[Biz Nasty]

Michael's just having a. You match over carrots.

[Keith Yandle]

He doesn't come on.

[Pasha]

Summer up.

[Keith Yandle]

He doesn't come on, because vegetables are unbelievable.

[Biz Nasty]

You know, the broccoli looks sexy. Come on.

[Keith Yandle]

He finds out how much you hate veggies, so he. We don't even get him as a guest.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

But. So one of the meals that we ate. It was at the hotel. So we just ate at the hotel, and it was a Michelin star restaurant.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay. Lamb and potatoes.

[Keith Yandle]

I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna put this out there. They're. They're fucking horrible. They're. They're horrible. I've been to one. And I said. Then I. And. And Bri was with me. She's like, oh, that was, like, brutal.

[Sean Avery]

It's like a tasting.

[Keith Yandle]

It's horrible. Yeah, it's horrible. There. There's like seven courses. They're all the size of your. Your thumb, and you're starving after. And they're. They gave us a piece of land. The first six dishes, I'm like, oh, my God. Like, Jesus, I was giving mine away. And then finally I'm like. I see on the menu, one of them's a piece of lamb. Dude, it looked like a Kit Kat. My mouse is double the size of this piece of lamb.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Double what?

[Keith Yandle]

Double? It was. It was half the size of my mouse. See this mouse I'm holding up for my computer.

[Biz Nasty]

So it was 3 ounces, no less?

[Keith Yandle]

No. Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

Might have been an ounce and a half.

[Keith Yandle]

2.2 maybe.

[Yan Stastny]

But it was delicious.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, the lamb was.

[Keith Yandle]

So anyone out there who's like, I Love. And by the way, I was the only guy pretty much saying this. These guys are like, I love it. It's so good.

[Biz Nasty]

That's why I always eat at the same restaurant. I don't trust.

[Keith Yandle]

I had Keith. I go get pizza. He was at the dinner table ordering Uber Eats pizza that everyone wanted. After. Everyone's telling me how good it is. Everyone's dying for a slice of pizza after. But at one point, they brought out. And it's all like, hero act. It's all like, looks crazy and agreed. So they brought out bread, and then they brought out, like a. It was frozen butter. No.

[Biz Nasty]

The coldest butter you've ever seen in your life.

[Keith Yandle]

No, it can't look like. It looked like. What would it look like, Keith? What I thought it was. It looked like you opened it up, right?

[Biz Nasty]

Like a smoke thing.

[Yan Stastny]

You know when you get, like, dumplings fillings at, like, an Asian restaurant?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

The top.

[Yan Stastny]

The top.

[Keith Yandle]

So, you know, there's a big handle. There's a handle. And I just. Yeah, I grabbed the handle. Take the top off, dude. The handle was butter. It was the. It was the butter. My hand went through this butter, buddy. The butter was scorching.

[Biz Nasty]

Mind, okay? Just like. It's like, escape room of meals.

[Keith Yandle]

I haven't had a bite.

[Biz Nasty]

Give me the goddamn food.

[Keith Yandle]

We walk 16 miles without a water, and I'm finally like, oh, a piece of bread. Like, is it under here? Boom. I got butter covering my fingers and I farted in there. And it was so bad, they, like, kicked me out, basically.

[Biz Nasty]

Hey, Wit's got the chef caddy in forum on the Thursday that you're. No, take your seven courses and shove them up your ass.

[Yan Stastny]

These guys hated us. These guys at that course hated us so much. Wit for found these kids. He offered them money to come caddy for us. The caddy master found out and was like, not happy.

[Biz Nasty]

No.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. I found a member. I was like, hey, you want a caddy for me Thursday? I'll give you £500 for two rounds. And he's like, yeah, for sure.

[Sean Avery]

And.

[Keith Yandle]

And then. And then guys were like, oh, he. You can do two, right? I'm like, hey, that's a thousand pounds for you for all day with us.

[Yan Stastny]

I heard the kid call his mom. He was like, mom, you.

[Keith Yandle]

And then. And then. So he goes.

[Biz Nasty]

Instagram video of him buying his mom a house.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Even agreed.

[Keith Yandle]

But he goes, I'll get five other buddies. Because I'm like, we need six caddies who can all do doubles.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

And then he called me the next day. He's like, caddy master said no. I was like, so was there just

[Biz Nasty]

not enough throughout the course where you guys hadn't booked them in advance? Like, how could you just not.

[Keith Yandle]

No. You know what happened? Cleary ended up realizing that he was on an email exchange with a woman from the club and. And Hoff. And he replied. But it. It was. It wasn't a reply all. And it only went to Hork. So they never even got our request. Yeah, so it wasn't the course's fault. The caddy master just, you know, he was like, no, it was just a big no. But yeah, so it was. It was. It was a great trip, dude. It was.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, that sounds so fun.

[Keith Yandle]

I wish England had won. If England had won, it would have been better. But it was.

[Biz Nasty]

That was such a buzzkill when. When I saw that. And especially with you guys there, like that plate. That pub would have been the next, like, for the next two hours. Would have been the coolest place.

[Keith Yandle]

Two weeks.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, true.

[Biz Nasty]

You'd still be there.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, I would have come home.

[Yan Stastny]

And the welcome home signs, like flapping in the wind.

[Biz Nasty]

At Wit's house, Bree sends a video watering it off of the driveway from

[Keith Yandle]

the chalk I sent her back of being an England jersey. I'm actually. I send her a picture from New York. I'm at the final at MetLife in an English jersey

[Biz Nasty]

with. With Larkin and Zegras.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, my God. It was. It was. But it was great. It was great.

[Biz Nasty]

That's so good.

[Keith Yandle]

Amazing people.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah. Get some new friends. It was awesome.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, Shanks, man, we gotta get. We gotta get him on the pod.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, when Bert comes on, Shanks will come on for sure.

[Keith Yandle]

Shanks's nephew's in the NHL, by the way.

[Abes]

Who?

[Keith Yandle]

Cole Schwitz.

[Yan Stastny]

Schwinn. Yeah, I played with him or he was at training camp with us in Florida. He got traded. He was part of the Huberto trade for Tkachuk.

[Keith Yandle]

But now he's back in Florida. Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

And then his brother's in. Where's their minor league team? Charlotte.

[Keith Yandle]

Charlotte.

[Pasha]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

So.

[Yan Stastny]

So he's got two nephews. Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

So last. Can we talk World cup before we get to hockey? I just wanted to mention how crazy. And I don't think you could think of a wilder scenario than a 19 or 20 year old Lionel Messi is. How you say it? Leono.

[Keith Yandle]

Lionel, I believe.

[Biz Nasty]

Lionel. Lionel. Damn it. Lionel Richie. Lionel Messi in a. In a baby tub with the player.

[Ryan Whitney]

The.

[Biz Nasty]

Probably the one of the Better players for Spain. And then all of a sudden they end up playing against each other in the World cup final.

[Keith Yandle]

It actually is.

[Biz Nasty]

You couldn't dream up a crazier probability if you.

[Keith Yandle]

No, I told Bri that and she usually like the sports stuff. I tell her, she's like, yeah, cool. She was like, no, no. And then wanted to see the picture and then she could. She's like, that's. What are the odds of that legit 50 billion that the. Like that a baby. He looked like a three month year old baby. He was a big baby. Lamina Mall and Messi's washing his hair like when he's 19. And then there I, I still can't believe it. I still can't believe that picture. That picture had come out before when Spain won the euro two years ago. The kid was 16, I think when they won the Euro. Dominating. And now he's a World cup champ. Now the game itself, kind of like it ended up getting great at the end. They almost tied it a couple times.

[Biz Nasty]

Spain. Spain were the New Jersey Devils. Yeah, they were just lock it down. Boring as I don't think that, that Argentina had a shot in real time, full time. Right. The 90 minutes they didn't.

[Keith Yandle]

And I think that Spain goalie gave up one goal in the whole tournament, so. But I think England might have given him a better game maybe. I agree. People be like, you're an idiot. But like, I don't know. Argentina, they just had, they just had nothing. Spain was a complete wagon. And then they, they showed like, then they scored one. They called it back. They show, they showed Alcaraz, he's going bananas. Then he stops. It was it, it was overall like the game at the end was pretty exciting because they had a couple chances, but it was kind of a snoozer for a little bit.

[Biz Nasty]

It was a weird, weird halftime show.

[Keith Yandle]

Well, Bieber played like the saddest, most depressing song I've ever heard. You think at a halftime show you got a belt out like a banger with energy.

[Yan Stastny]

What was it? I was on a flight. I missed.

[Biz Nasty]

Hallelujah, Hallelujah.

[Yan Stastny]

It's not even his song.

[Biz Nasty]

It was very, I think that he remixed it kind of. Right. It was his version, I think Shakira is 49 years old.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh yeah, those hips don't lie. The, the Madonna came out with, with Ronaldo. Ronaldinho and then Ronaldo, like the other Ronaldo, the, the one name Ronaldo. I mean he's, he's talk about he retired. He's like, yeah, I ain't ever sweating again.

[Biz Nasty]

That's the ov.

[Ryan Whitney]

Of. Of.

[Biz Nasty]

Of soccer.

[Keith Yandle]

OVI was at the game.

[Biz Nasty]

I think he was there. So I actually watched the first two episodes of that. Ronaldino's biography.

[Keith Yandle]

I saw that on Netflix.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, yeah, it's on Netflix. Like, I find it funny that if you took out the actual soccer clips, I think his brother is in it more than he is. Who's his, like, agent, like, money manager.

[Keith Yandle]

But his brother was the stud player before him, I think.

[Yan Stastny]

I think they were like, street ballers, weren't they? Like street ball players.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, but I just found it, like, funny that his whole, like. And he kind of looked like Ronaldo as well, because he had, like, the beer belly and kind of looked like him too. So I was like, wait, is that Ronaldo? No, that's still his brother. Getting interviewed in the chair, more so. And talking about his job and role compared to the guy who's on the pitch.

[Keith Yandle]

It would be like a documentary about Wayne, but, like, Keith's doing it all,

[Biz Nasty]

and he's the one getting interviewed more for the one on one. It would just be weird, right? Weird element. But, yeah, I thought that was bizarre. But, yeah, he dresses. He dresses kind of funny for an older guy.

[Yan Stastny]

They must. They must have made him wear that. No, I don't.

[Keith Yandle]

No. Most of his outfits, though. Yeah, it's like, how do you do? How you doing, fellow kids? You know, Steve Buscemi backwards. It's like, me, I get that a lot. I get that meme sent to me a lot.

[Biz Nasty]

He's like. He's almost like Neymar and. And Allen Iverson had a baby, you know, so he still got.

[Keith Yandle]

I don't even get it.

[Biz Nasty]

What do you mean?

[Keith Yandle]

Are you talking looks or how they dress?

[Biz Nasty]

How they dress? No, not how they look. About, like.

[Keith Yandle]

I think Neymar dress is crazy too, though.

[Biz Nasty]

Kind of like Ribeiro. Remember Ribeiro?

[Pasha]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

He used the dress like. Yeah, like, just like the long jean shorts where the top of the white sock would, like, meet the jean short. And it's like, okay, man.

[Sean Avery]

Like, I don't know.

[Biz Nasty]

Time to. Yeah, you know, time. Yeah, like, time to just go to John Barbados, take the discount by.

[Yan Stastny]

Just ask for the mannequin.

[Biz Nasty]

Just get the mannequin. Just get the mannequin.

[Keith Yandle]

But.

[Biz Nasty]

But what was. What else was I gonna ask you about? It was that picture.

[Keith Yandle]

Well, while we were there, the sandbagger dropped.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

And we're gonna have Bob does on because, you know, we. We have their. Their match is coming Out. Right? I believe they, I think they wanted to drop that thing like, two days after. It's like, I'll wait for ours. And, you know, all of a sudden, you know, I have another kid by the time ours came out. But it was, it was another win. And I, I, I don't know what Bob's gonna say. I don't know what Joey's gonna say. I don't know what FPS.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, they're definitely not gonna collab or, or promote at all.

[Yan Stastny]

Why are they not collabing?

[Keith Yandle]

I just like, oh, they won't collab. Maybe they're mad.

[Pasha]

They must be.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, I, I just haven't heard a peep to the point where, like, Joey cold cuts my fellow Canadian.

[Sean Avery]

He.

[Biz Nasty]

He was heading over to Victoria this past weekend.

[Yan Stastny]

I FaceTimed him with Bert.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay, okay. So he was, He. Was he at VGC in Victoria when you did it? I lined it up, got my buddies to take him out. Because you, like, kind of have to have, like, a guy with a membership take you out. I don't think they just let you go out there. Well, he went and played. My buddy said, hey, great round. Hung out with him.

[Sean Avery]

It's.

[Biz Nasty]

I never got a text.

[Keith Yandle]

Not even thank you.

[Biz Nasty]

Not a, hey, love the core. Nothing. And we just played and dropped in this bagger.

[Keith Yandle]

Now I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say what I think it could be, and I'm almost gonna side with them a tad on this. The thumbnail was completely egregious that we dropped.

[Biz Nasty]

I forgot about the thumbnail.

[Keith Yandle]

And I don't know. I'm seeing the thumbnail, Keith.

[Yan Stastny]

I swear to God, I just looked at it and didn't realize what it was. And now that you just said it, I saw it.

[Keith Yandle]

I saw that. I. I don't know. Somebody can hop on, but I saw it, and I was like, whoa. And, And I.

[Yan Stastny]

That could be bad karma.

[Keith Yandle]

So I, Yeah, I, that. My thought is that they're not collabing and Joey didn't reach out to. And I literally just thought, like, that thumbnail was once again, okay, that's Regis.

[Biz Nasty]

That's fair. I never. I forgot about the thumbnail. So whose idea was that?

[Keith Yandle]

But they might not have cared. They might. I don't. But I'm guessing I, I'd probably be like, yeah, I don't know, boys. You're putting us in dog collars with us on all fours.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, but I've been in dog collar before. On the page one. It's like, all.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, but you put It. You put it on yourself.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, that's true. That's true.

[Keith Yandle]

So Pasha with the. Pasha might have ruined the relationship with the Bob does you think?

[Biz Nasty]

Do you think this is just Pasha acting out? Because the New Jersey Devils haven't really.

[Keith Yandle]

Well, they signed Anthony Manta. And listen, everyone, once again, summer episodes, we'll just get to stuff randomly. Yeah, that just. That was organic. Anthony Manta. I said on the trip with all these hockey guys, I'm like, man, that guy scores goals. And I think there's some opinions out there that. And I think we've said this too. At times it's just like, you're like, dude, can we get a little bit more effort out of you? But last year he had the most goals he's ever had. And I think a ton of teams were offering him one year, but the Devils gave him two at four and a half. Right. But he scores. I mean, he's. At least last year he scores. How many? What's his other years? He's definitely at 22 or three times. Right.

[Biz Nasty]

I think the most he ever got beside that would have been in Washington. He had one pretty decent year in Washington, didn't he?

[Yan Stastny]

He's got to be rattled seeing all these other contracts and he got 30 and being like, that's.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, it just sucks because it's like you. You have this prove it year and then yet you're still being offered a prove it contract.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, I guess he's what, he's 31.

[Keith Yandle]

He had 24 in Detroit. He had 25 in Detroit. He had 20 in Washington. And all the other years he had 16 within 43 games. 11, 42. Basically, I'm saying he scores. Right? You need goals and goals, you need size in New Jersey. So, yeah, we just talked about somebody who.

[Biz Nasty]

Who paid a lot for goals. We were talking last podcast with a podcast before. Oh, it was Paterka in Boston. Like, they. I mean, he's a 30 goal guy and now they gotta guarantee him, what, five, six years more at.

[Pasha]

At.

[Biz Nasty]

At 7 million and change. So I guess. I guess maybe Pasha wasn't bitter about that.

[Keith Yandle]

Wait, he didn't sign that deal. Paterka signed that deal in Utah, not Buffalo. Right. Did they sign and trade him or did Utah give him the deal when he got dealt there?

[Biz Nasty]

I think that he was a sign

[Sean Avery]

and trade

[Biz Nasty]

or Utah signed him for sure.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, Utah signed for sure. But yeah, you got to pay for goals, man. Now, man, the playoffs, I believe all of us were like, what is man doing? Why isn't he Trying. But in the regular season you need goals and I, I think you're penciling them in in Jersey for 25. He's healthy.

[Biz Nasty]

I think we also need to mention there's a guy like a. A Calgary Flames fan who's been coming at me. We haven't mentioned the Simone Nemec trade yet. We missed it for like two or three pods.

[Keith Yandle]

I missed.

[Biz Nasty]

I don't believe.

[Keith Yandle]

Thanks.

[Biz Nasty]

I don't think we went over it. I don't know what posh. We should get Pasha maybe on. To summarize the bagger and also what he thinks about moving on from Simone Nemec and why he put the other guys in dog collars. What. What was that about, Pasha?

[Pasha]

Well, I think we know it's about you guys have been dog walking them for how many rounds in a row now? And yeah, it was. It's a. It's a bit of a spicy thumbnail, but we're currently at 996,000 views. We'll probably hit a million while we're live right now recording. And 30% of the comments are talking about how ridiculous this thumbnail is. So it's getting close. There's a lot that are like, this is hilarious. And then I think a lot of Bob does, his fans are like, this is unacceptable.

[Yan Stastny]

Like, yeah, it'd be a 2 million if it wasn't.

[Keith Yandle]

A thumbnail comes out. And you don't know who won. So it's like we won the last two. What it was that year ago. Was that two years ago? No, year ago. So, yeah, all of a sudden you click on. You see these guys in. In dog collars, on all fours, and it's just like, whoa. I mean, I'm sitting there in England. I go, whoa. When I saw that. So Pasha. Yeah, you get now once again, I. I would play golf with those guys once a week for the rest of my life. And I'm not just saying that because we always win. I love those guys. People are reaching out to me. I'm. They. The Bob does, sports fans. They want me dead. They. They legit want me dead. This, the YouTube golf crowd and, and myself, we don't vibe. I guess we don't. I don't know. They think I'm the meanest person alive. It was just. We were talking on the golf course.

[Ryan Whitney]

Love.

[Keith Yandle]

Once. Once again.

[Biz Nasty]

The talking of the shit talk does

[Yan Stastny]

shit to us too though.

[Keith Yandle]

I know, but I think like my. I don't know, they say like, everyone else is joking and you're just serious. You're A mean fucking prick. I'm like, dude, I'm not serious. So it might come off as I'm serious, but I'm not.

[Pasha]

They don't like the cursing, the F bombs. I think some of these golf fans, you know, it's a little more proper. The videos they watch.

[Yan Stastny]

True. Yeah.

[Pasha]

They're taking about them.

[Yan Stastny]

They swear.

[Pasha]

Yeah, true.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. They swear all the time, don't they?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. If you would have seen the thumbnail and it would have been up to you, would you have said, let's not go with this thumbnail, or you would have said no, all gas here.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, I probably would have said no.

[Keith Yandle]

I. I swear to God, if I was asked before I even saw the third dog and the third member of our team, I would have said no.

[Yan Stastny]

Depends. Who was I walking in it?

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, who was I walking? Was I walking? You were walking,

[Pasha]

Bob. Walking fp.

[Biz Nasty]

I would never do that to fp. And he's three times the golfer I am.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, no, I would that there. I love them too much. I hope they don't think it was

[Keith Yandle]

us, but either way, we got another match with them that's dropping on their channel.

[Biz Nasty]

Go check out the one on our. I believe we collaborated on that, though. It's like a YouTube collab. So.

[Sean Avery]

Oh, yeah, shout out.

[Biz Nasty]

465, 000 followers at this point and almost at a million for. For this sandbagger.

[Keith Yandle]

So check it out. Those guys do absolute numbers. Numbers like those guys are on a video, dude. They do numbers. So shout out, Bob.

[Pasha]

Speaking of good numbers, 4.75 for Anthony Manta.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, I thought it was four or five. Okay, so you love that.

[Pasha]

Love that deal. Yeah. There's no. No trade clause, which I haven't seen in Jersey in many, many years, so it's refreshing that Sonny's not dishing those out like skittles. And I think, yeah, they need scoring. He's a big body, you know, he's streaky, but I think like five on five. He's been efficient and he's a clinical finisher. That's what Jack's been missing his whole career. He's put it on a platter for Eric Hall. I like him as a player, but couldn't finish a lot of chances. Palat couldn't finish chances. So finally having a guy who's like a clinical finisher, I think will be huge. But he's a bit injury prone, he's a bit streaky, but I think at that price on that term, it's a good ad.

[Keith Yandle]

I know your dream Was. Was a. Obviously in every team's dream is like kind of a meaner scoring winger, right. For Jack. Now, he doesn't really have that, but if he stays healthy, like I said, like, mark it down 25, and it's actually a guy. If he stayed healthy and Jack is healthy himself and flying around. I mean, when Jack was playing last year, he was dominant. So if he has a year, Matthew stays healthy, he actually could get 35, 40 goals. It sounds crazy, but I don't think it's that nuts.

[Sean Avery]

I'm not expecting.

[Pasha]

I think 25 is.

[Keith Yandle]

But do you see what I'm saying? If that guy plays 82 games, which has he ever. Let me look.

[Pasha]

I don't think so.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

Played 81 this year, and he played 80 his second full season. Other than that, there's. There's 1 over 60. No, 2 over 60, and then a lot at 56, 18, 13, 42, 43. So. Oh, I guess that's the COVID year, right?

[Biz Nasty]

Did we mention the Nemec trade when it happened? Pasha, do you remember talking about it? I don't.

[Pasha]

I think we talked about it on game notes. I don't know if we talked about it on here.

[Biz Nasty]

And what were your thoughts overall on that? Just to summarize why we got you,

[Pasha]

my thoughts overall was that, like, overall, I'm disappointed. You know, you draft this guy second overall. I kind of pictured him being a pillar on the back end there for, like, the next decade. So obviously don't like how things panned out with him. Like, I still think he has a high ceiling. I think Sonny did a really good job of recouping assets for him, getting, you know, a couple firsts. I think in the right system and, you know, with the right usage, he can have success. There's like, he's got kind of, like, offense he can't teach, and he's got that clutch gene, but he's a complete defensive liability. So I think he'll go on to have a pretty solid career, and I would have liked more out of a second overall pick, but I think Sunny did a good job of getting, you know, good value for him. They ended up signing him, I think, for seven and a half, which is, you know, at the time, it was

[Biz Nasty]

only a couple years, right? Or short.

[Keith Yandle]

Five or five.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay, five years.

[Pasha]

Yeah, something like that.

[Biz Nasty]

Which seems to be the new length that everybody wants to go now.

[Keith Yandle]

Dude.

[Pasha]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

Pasha, that's. You are so. You're such a joke. Like, why? Why You're a joke. This was five years Ago anyone else's team on this podcast and they had a second overall pick that they were ranting and raving about, and I quote, gonna win a Norris trophy. No, I never. Yes, you did. No, I, I. Hold on, let me finish. You find a clip of me saying,

[Pasha]

nemes will win the North.

[Keith Yandle]

It was at a dinner we weren't filming our entire life.

[Biz Nasty]

We need to start filming the dinner conversations. We have to.

[Keith Yandle]

I, I, no, but then we can't. No, because we say stuff that we don't want out here, we're hearing in terms of stuff. Oh, and then we just edit it and shit.

[Yan Stastny]

No, no, no. We just have some honor and admit

[Keith Yandle]

to it either way. I didn't even finish the point. What G's saying in the chat is true.

[Pasha]

I did say I wouldn't trade him for Brady Kachak.

[Sean Avery]

I did say that, but I never said that.

[Biz Nasty]

I mean, that might be worse. That might be worse.

[Yan Stastny]

You can get hot for one year and win a Norris.

[Keith Yandle]

You would be burying us if this was, if this was the Oilers. Ok. And I was ranting and raving about him the way you were. You would be sending me images constantly since the trade of Logan Cooley, Cutter Gaultier, Frank Nazar and Jimmy Snuggleroot and plenty of players that were picked after him, like, idiot, moron, dummy. What's the first thing I led with?

[Pasha]

I said I'm very disappointed how it panned out.

[Keith Yandle]

You came on like you were a professor or a librarian, like gonna go on to have a long career. And, you know, and, and it's like, bro, you, this was a complete fumble and you're not being honest and forthright about it.

[Biz Nasty]

I think Sonny Matt has got his hand so far up your ass puppet at this point.

[Keith Yandle]

Me too.

[Yan Stastny]

He said he got some great assets for him.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, he did.

[Pasha]

You get a couple first rounders back.

[Biz Nasty]

I think it was Equinox membership and fucking and frequent flyer miles so he, he can fly first class.

[Keith Yandle]

And Pasha gets to sit on the bench during with a helmet on like all the little kids and watch the

[Biz Nasty]

guys warm up gloves is, is, is Jack's fluffer. I think that about does it, right?

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. See you, Pasha.

[Pasha]

See you.

[Biz Nasty]

Great job on the bagger, Pasha.

[Keith Yandle]

Great job on the bagger. Another awesome bagger. Shout out. Bob to sports. So the main story, though, Iserman.

[Abes]

Oh, oh.

[Biz Nasty]

I gotta ask Yan's one question. What's so no, none of the jug water. I try to get the boys some cold water. We had no, we had no cold water bottles.

[Sean Avery]

Left.

[Biz Nasty]

So I tried to get the boys water during the bagger, and I dropped it off to you, and you threw it over your shoulder.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, at a golf course? Buddy, I worked at a golf course for seven years. You do not drink that water.

[Keith Yandle]

That course may be different. Why?

[Yan Stastny]

Because they're never cleaned. They're never like.

[Keith Yandle]

They stay in those things. Yeah. Opening up the bottle. You're hearing the click.

[Yan Stastny]

What?

[Biz Nasty]

No, no, we're. I'm talking about. I. I filled up three.

[Yan Stastny]

No, no, like the ones that are out on the golf courses that you.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm not drinking those.

[Yan Stastny]

But mind you, I worked at a public golf course that was a. Whatever. Wasn't as nice as the one we were at. I forget where we played that one, but.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

You.

[Yan Stastny]

You do not drink that water in a golf course.

[Biz Nasty]

You know, I tried to kill you guys.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay.

[Yan Stastny]

And what did I. I threw it over my shoulder. Good. That's why I'm still here.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay. I figured it would, like, help build up a good immunity in your tummy. And.

[Keith Yandle]

And she's saying it's hose. What you saying it's hose water now?

[Yan Stastny]

It's 100% hose.

[Keith Yandle]

Well, I do. I do.

[Yan Stastny]

And you're in Florida. That's not the best water. I love.

[Keith Yandle]

I grew up, I was just constantly chugging out of the sink in my bathroom. I'm talking nonstop. Come in from playing outside. I mean, I felt like I was under there for a minute or two. And I'm six, three and a half, sometimes six, four. I guess I'm shrinking. I was six four. I don't have a problem with it. I. I think I'm taking back. If I'm thirsty, I'm drinking out of it.

[Biz Nasty]

The reason why was. Is we had bottled water, but it hadn't been put in the cooler, so it wasn't cold. And I was just trying to cool our core temperature down before we finished the last two, three holes. And like, Yan's acted like I was trying to poison them.

[Yan Stastny]

Might have been. I don't know. Yeah. But no, I just. I worked at golf courses. I know not to do. It's straight up hose water that the bo. Those big jugs, they're like the Gatorade ones in there. They're never cleaned.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay, Good to know.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

Okay.

[Biz Nasty]

What else do we need to get to?

[Keith Yandle]

Well, Detroit, that was. That was what we had to get back to.

[Abes]

And.

[Keith Yandle]

And. And Eiserman's gone. I was kind of surprised. Now I was kind of told. Not gone as gm.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

He is now, I think, a special advisor to Chris Ilitch, who. Mike's. Mike Illich's son, who basically he's booking

[Biz Nasty]

the travel, like the Butler team bus in the hotels.

[Keith Yandle]

And I'm not gonna. I'm not laughing. Not. No way.

[Biz Nasty]

That's what they did to him.

[Keith Yandle]

Do you think.

[Yan Stastny]

Do you think he's like, who needs tickets tonight?

[Biz Nasty]

Do you need these code.

[Keith Yandle]

That's my favorite player of all time. Not laughing at that.

[Biz Nasty]

I'm not, but I'm laughing at what they did to him.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. Do you think Detroit fans were more upset or more. All right, yeah, I get it. It was time for him to move on. What was your first thought?

[Biz Nasty]

My first thought was, was this a loss of the power dynamic because of the Larkin situation? And I'm not trying to put it on him either. I'm just like, was that like a. A big component in the way this was handled? Now all of a sudden your captain, like, is asking out, and it goes back to a few years ago where he's like, we. We were hoping to get help. At the deadline, Iserman remained patient. I'm just here to. To like, provide context to people listening. Like, I don't fucking know what's going on behind the scenes. Like, I would never in a million years question Steve Yzerman or what he thinks is the right way to stay patient and handle an organization he helped out in Tampa. They were able to win back to back cups.

[Keith Yandle]

I.

[Biz Nasty]

Was he there for both of them

[Yan Stastny]

or did he left right before them, didn't he?

[Biz Nasty]

Maybe he left right before, but I think he obviously helped in build what they had going on there. And I mean, the guy's been around the game long enough. I just. Did you guys feel that it was a, like a power dynamic as to what, why he was moved out of position because of the Larkin situation or collectively a base on everything?

[Yan Stastny]

I think collectively everything. I bet he's one of those guys. It's like, man, I never questioned anything my GM or coaches did my entire career, and now I'm a GM and I got these kids doing it. Like, you know what? I got no time for it. But also everything here is like, he's a competitive guy, wants to win, and, you know, I'm sure he'll be a GM again, right? If he wants to be. I don't know if he wants to

[Keith Yandle]

think there's a. I would say there isn't a person, a, that cares about the Red Wings alive more than Steve Iserman.

[Yan Stastny]

Right?

[Keith Yandle]

Yes. Where, like, he just Wanted to win so bad. And biz, I think at the end, for this to happen with Larkin, like, there's no way it didn't have something to do with it. Because when I saw it, the first thing I thought was like, wow. I thought at this point, after July, like, you think if they were going to let him go, it would have been earlier in the year, you know, you. At least that's how I agree.

[Biz Nasty]

Or before the, like, decisions were going to be made at the draft or free agency or whatever. And maybe they wanted to give him maybe one more opportunity. I will say, based on the draft and them trading that, that Kosa goalie and then basically just getting a late round, first round pick to now have to wait for him to develop, it's kind of like, okay, like, I would if you said, like, based on one of the. I'm waiting to see how everything transpires with how patient he's been. That would have been one of the five things I would have hoped that would have been like, oh, they would have got a starting goalie out of that.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

But it didn't. And then they gave him. So that's where I was like, ah, maybe that's where that along with the Larkin thing, along with the fact that it's like, okay, we, we. When someone's tell you, be patient, be patient. I respect that. It's like, okay, you know, it's like you're teaching the young kid. Yo, wait, wait. Especially from him, right? And then it's like, I don't know, man. You're seeing a lot of, like, successful moves and teams that are making aggressive moves that are then having success, where it's like, okay, well how fucking long we wait in here? And, and here we are. But I would definitely ha. Like you would agree it would have to. The, the Larkin situation has to push this over the edge now because he's out of that seat. Do you think that Larkin is more receptible to stay now? Like, is he gonna stay more now

[Yan Stastny]

still the same roster and all that shit? Like, he. I don't think he was asking for a trade because Steve Eisenman was his gm.

[Keith Yandle]

I know. I wonder though. It's actually a legit question. I think that they, they were butting heads. I mean, think of the way he spoke out about him two years ago. I remember being like, holy.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, that was aggressive.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, it was really aggressive.

[Biz Nasty]

It was using the, the media to

[Keith Yandle]

get your message across, which, hey, that's the new league. Like, that is actually now. And, and personally like, if I was on that side, the management side, I get why you'd be pissed off. But as what we do and as a fan, I'm like, this is unbelievable, like, storyline. This is unbelievable content.

[Biz Nasty]

It's unbelievable. We're trying to relax in the summertime. We got offer sheets coming in.

[Keith Yandle]

We have not even him getting fired here. I'm talking about the Larkin. When he did that, that's when I was like, oh, my God. And I was like, this is great content, though. And then this. And then. So when Keith says, I don't think it was Eiserman, maybe it was. But still then do you go back and then you're gonna make it that much more obvious in a story that you disliked him that much, that you're like, no, I don't need to be traded now? Yeah, that's kind of like. That's even sticking it even more. That's making an even bigger story.

[Abes]

An easy way to save face with the fans, though, because if they're like. If they're butting heads in their yearend meeting where he's like, I need you. I want superstars. I want to play with superstars. And Stevie Y Is like, no, that's not the plan. We have these prospects. We're going to wait for these guys to come up. That could have been the divide right there. And they're like, all right. I don't agree with the direction of this team.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, that's. That's kind of what.

[Keith Yandle]

I'm super bizarre sometimes, though, is like, the new guy.

[Biz Nasty]

And there was a name that came in the group chat. Like, if whoever texted it can claim it about Shanahan. Name came up.

[Yan Stastny]

I said that.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, like you. I said, that's pretty.

[Yan Stastny]

He would definitely be interviewed for that.

[Biz Nasty]

No, I. So they were very.

[Yan Stastny]

That's what I'm saying.

[Keith Yandle]

How many. How many years have there have Holland and Eisenman been there? Like, this is a huge fire. Original six. Like, so Shanahan's name having been. Having been in the league, being a part of this, although he was president. Right. Would. Are you saying Hiram is president, then he hires the gm or he's the

[Biz Nasty]

gm, I would assume maybe just. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, maybe he doesn't want that smoke. I just. The name, when it popped up, made sense. It's a. It's such a strong position. It comes with that cachet. He's obviously had time in a. In a power role in the league already where. And he's obviously going to have to work pretty well with Steve Iserman, who's still probably somewhat strongly involved in his role there. And they got. They got along great when they played. There's that famous photo that I think that Avery has it. Sean Avery. It's the Batman and Robin. I don't know if we could post it when we're. We're posting the podcast. So. Yeah.

[Pasha]

Any.

[Biz Nasty]

Any other name come to mind or.

[Keith Yandle]

I'm by.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

And I talked to Cleary and he's. He's like, he would be so good at this. He's so ready for this. He and I just know how dialed in Hawk is and just talking to him and I. I really hope they hire him.

[Yan Stastny]

I think. I agree with that.

[Keith Yandle]

I think he's a thousand percent going to be a gm and they need new blood.

[Yan Stastny]

It's not like you can't go back to this old. I think it's a different time. It's different times are coming. He's hungrier. Right. Like, he's got to prove to be a good gm. Shanny's, you know, or any. Any of the old guy. Any of the old blood of the league. Like, these guys. Like, it's time for the new guys to come in and to start running these teams.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. And. And where.

[Biz Nasty]

Do you. Do you believe that the chances of Lin staying have gotten higher because of this move?

[Keith Yandle]

Yes, but I still think the trade request will remain.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, I agree.

[Abes]

But.

[Pasha]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

Crazy. That was. That was nuts. I just. I couldn't believe you wouldn't have done it before Free Agey. That was kind of my first thought, but then I was told that sometimes that's how it goes because it's too late to bring somebody in. And you. I don't know. So do you think Biz.

[Yan Stastny]

Do you think his name was Steve Smith? He would have lasted as long as he did in Detroit. Cause you were always saying, the eyes are playing. We got a. Like, enough of it almost.

[Biz Nasty]

I was. I was more saying, like, when's the end of the line? Based on, like, what he's accomplished as a player and who he is. Like, I think that he's earned the right to get longer than Steve Smith or Steve Shanks or whoever else. Name whatever other name you could throw at me.

[Keith Yandle]

We haven't even. We haven't mentioned either that, like, all of these things, the Lin and they. The overall, they haven't made the playoffs. The road is longer than any other team in the league.

[Biz Nasty]

So, yeah, I think that. I think I would have just delegated and been like, oh, like this wiser, older person is telling me to be patient and therefore I'm going to listen to him. And I would also believe that in order to set it up from the ground up and bringing in like, you know, high end scouts and high end people that are probably already hired by other teams and living and comfortable and being paid accordingly, you kind of slowly have to poach those and. Or like bring up these people in those positions. So that just naturally is going to take time to, to whether to put those proper people in those places or allow people that you trust to evolve in those positions to take place. And like, but, but after the. That's why like, like you said when that news came out, when, when Lin took the podium and said that, I'm like, oh, here we go. Because everybody was like, hey, like, I would never call because we grew up

[Yan Stastny]

in that era of the league where

[Keith Yandle]

it was nobody would have ever challenge.

[Biz Nasty]

And then for, for. And keep in mind, like Larkin, it's. It's a very difficult position to be in, regardless of how great of a player he is, is before the Olympics when it happened, he hadn't won anything. Right. So it's hard for, for you as this like, captain of his team who hasn't been successful to like all of a sudden call out a guy of that stature at the podium. I think that that's what, through shockwaves, I think that as time has progressed, people are seeing more in the eyes of Larin being like, yeah, like, like you said, the fan base is probably divided. Like, maybe they're like, thank God somebody had the fucking balls to say, hey, pitter patter, let's get out of here. So. And with him moving positions, like you guys said, as far as the saving phase, I don't think the uproar or the boo birds are as bad or significant to start the year if Larkin starts in that position. Nor do I even know now, like you're saying 100%, if he starts the year in Detroit, he doesn't have a C on his jersey. We kind of went over this.

[Keith Yandle]

Not anymore, I guess.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah. Wow.

[Keith Yandle]

That changes a lot.

[Biz Nasty]

Changes a lot, right? So there's a lot, a lot of moving pieces here for Detroit and this is kind of a big move. And I would lean to believe that this is a message from man from, from the ownership saying, we don't want to get in the middle of this, but let's move you here. Let's see if we can give this another rip and let maybe a new guy can make something happen in the midst of the start of the season and. Or close to the deadline. And if we haven't found a proper trade for Lin, let's just hope we're in a position so we can make playoffs. And his attitude on everything changes given the fact that they, you know, maybe can make something happen with. With Warrensky coming to free agency soon. McDavid, like, who knows, right? Maybe you get a crazy offer sheet that they send someone's way, like Philly's trying to do. But, yeah, here we are.

[Keith Yandle]

The last thing I'll say about Hork, and I get people saying, oh, you just played with him. But I think having played with him just proves that. You see all these guys you play with and you. You can tell kind of right away could they be a GM or not? And not to be the guy that, like, oh, you kind of had to play to know this, but there's certain guys you play with. Cogliano was another guy, just like Hawk, where I was like, these guys. Do you know what I'm saying, boys? They're so dialed in there.

[Biz Nasty]

I would say, Derek, step on, but okay, just because he's. He just like, he's obsessed with it and he's like, all. Always in the know of everything that's going on in the league.

[Yan Stastny]

Luongo is the same way when even for a goalie was like, wow, this guy's going to be a GM or a president or whatever he wants after,

[Biz Nasty]

because he saw every transaction and, like, had an opinion on it in the

[Yan Stastny]

locker room and just dialed.

[Keith Yandle]

I think more than opinions on transactions while they're playing is Hawk's one of the guys that since. Since he retired, he's just been all in, and he's one of those. He's kind of a crazy worker. Like, his ability, he's a. Like, his workouts used to be insane. He. He challenged himself. Like, he's just one of those type A dominant personalities. And now that he's just put it all the. All the energy into the. The second aspect of it, the second part of his career, the managerial side, it's the same work ethic, and he's just climbing the ranks. And I think. I think it would be an awesome hire a younger guy. I. I think, yeah. I don't know.

[Biz Nasty]

Do you think?

[Keith Yandle]

I do know, actually. I do know.

[Biz Nasty]

So if they. If they hire him, based on what you know about him, would his first action be, I'm flying to Dylan Larkin and I'm having a meeting with him and trying to repair. Repair the damage.

[Keith Yandle]

I Didn't ask him that. He also.

[Yan Stastny]

That's a good question. But maybe they had. Because sometimes your relationship. What's hor is. Was Hork assistant gm.

[Keith Yandle]

Currently he's the assistant GM and sometimes running Grand Rapids.

[Yan Stastny]

Like, my relationship with Brad Tree, living when he was the assistant, compared to my relationship with Don Maloney was a million times different.

[Biz Nasty]

Maybe they already had that style.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah. Maybe they already have a great relationship where it's like, hey, listen, boom. Start over. Who should we get in? Who do you. Who's a guy? You want me to get more. Should I go from a player? Yeah, absolutely.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, that could be. That. That could be the detriment to Stevie. Why is like. Because he's of that status. Maybe he wouldn't be as open to. To talking to the players and picking off of them and.

[Yan Stastny]

And guys are probably scared to talk to him.

[Keith Yandle]

Stevie Watt. Yeah. Intimidated. You got to be more in tune with guys now, and you're talking to them and you're not their buddy, you're not their friend. Right. But at the same time, you can have relationships where it's a lot friendlier than the old way was. Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

So do you guys see a time where. I think most people would agree there was a time in NBA history where it finally got to more players speaking out. Right. And I think that we can all agree that we like the fact that players have a say and have input and. And it's moving in that direction. Do you see it or ever getting to a point of a like, problem? Like, do you think. Because, like, I. I think we can all agree that from an NBA standpoint, it's maybe gone a little too far the other way. Do you feel like it's inevitable where the power dynamic will just continue to pendulum and it'll. It'll swing fully. Like, where do you. Because hockey. I would say that most people who follow hockey, they. They love maybe that older school element about it. They like the fact that guys would show up wearing suits. They like the fact that it was more about the team than the individual. Like, I'm not saying it's in a negative place or it's bad to any regard right now. I think it's. It's a. It's a benefit and it's good for the players to have this much say. But I'm asking, do you see it maybe snowballing out of hand or maybe there's examples that. Where you think that it has already.

[Keith Yandle]

I think it. There's definitely examples. And my only theory would be that it as the money gets that much higher. Right. Did that start happening as the money in the NBA got so ridiculous? And all of a sudden, with that money, you just have so much more power. You have. You have so much more power. Like, now, granted, the teams are also. They're making more money, but now, I mean, in the NBA, when did it start where guys were making 20 million a year? It was way, way before the NHL is even. We're not even there yet.

[Yan Stastny]

I think a lot of it has to do with, like, the agents and stuff, too. Like, even back in our day, like, if you called your agent like, hey, I think I should get traded, they'd be like, ah, no, just hang out. Now you got guys like Judd, you got guys like, they were almost obeying by the gm, not saying mine, but, like, they were obeying by what the GMs and the owners had to say. It was, like, maybe a little more cordial.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

It was a pecking order of how it went. Nowadays, these GMs, like, they work for the player. They're going out there, getting them what they want. Guys not happy. The Asians. Yeah, sorry. They're. They're getting the guy out of the baton. If he doesn't want to be there, they're going to a team. You know, if he wants to be traded to three separate. To three different teams, hey, you got to trade him on one of these three teams. So I think the agents and the players coming together have a lot to do with it, and I don't think it's a bad thing. I love that the players are getting what they, you know, deserve and what they, you know, work their asses off for.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah. I don't know. It is an argument, though, if you're drafted. That is the. That is the whole discussion, though. If you're drafted by the team, are you. How many years do you have?

[Yan Stastny]

How many drafted by them? They trade you in two years.

[Keith Yandle]

No, but if you're drafted by a team and you give it, how many years is it then okay to be like, trade me? I would say Larkin's had enough time there where it's like, been 10 years.

[Biz Nasty]

I would say once Brady did it, it made it even more acceptable for. For Larkin to do it. I believe that. But Brady was probably at that tipping point, like, in a sense of fairness, and he didn't.

[Yan Stastny]

He didn't even really ask for a trade, did he? Who?

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, Brady. Oh, yeah, Brady asked for a trade.

[Biz Nasty]

I mean, I don't know. You tell. You tell me.

[Keith Yandle]

And gave him a Couple teams.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

I mean it's the, the I was.

[Biz Nasty]

And I also more look to it of, of a. Like Brady based on how. I don't want to say how things were being ran because Steos got put in a little bit of a difficult situation. But with all the like the noise and some of the off the ice, I would have thought that that would have accelerated things a little bit sooner. There was a little bit of chaos for them not only with the switching of management a few years ago. Like, you know, didn't they get a draft pick taken away, then given back and then like just like other other that's been going on. So I think that that is a pretty much a fair tipping point amount of time.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

But with that said in the power dynamic and everything changing and where we're at and I think maybe we could talk about another special player signing a big, a big five year deal.

[Keith Yandle]

There were, there were maybe rumors started by us. Was. Was that us that he, he. He'll get offer sheeted and Chicago's like, oh shit. Kind of sick for Chicago fans to, to see that happen right where you're all right. It's been dark, but he looked incredible last year. He has the, he has this special. That guy has a special quality like star power. Right. He, he's. He scores and then they get him locked up after the Leo Carlson thing. So I feel like every Blackhawks fan was fired up. Definitely fair money. Now looks like he'll be 100 point guy based on last year. Would you be surprised at all if, if he's over a point per game this season?

[Biz Nasty]

I think he'll, I think he'll get to the next level this year. It's also nice probably like getting a little bit of comfort where he hasn't like had to commit this big long term eight year deal. He gets to see how they're able to handle things over the next five years. Because I would still say there's like, if they miss playoffs the next two years, I think we would all be like, yeah, but in year three of that deal, I think that major expectations start to come as far as like okay, here, what's going on? What kind of moves are they making? Like the Bull Byram thing makes a little bit more sense now in, in rushing and getting him locked in for only the term that they got him locked in for. I believe that they align perfectly now. Right. You got a six year deal. Was it a six year deal?

[Keith Yandle]

He got either right. It's right around the same time, but I Mean, right around the term he got locked in for is the highest paid D in the league. So it's pretty like it wasn't. It wasn't the Bedard signing for me. And you said it, Biz. He'll dominate next year. You think he'll take the next leap because he's going to get healthy and he's not going to have to. He's not going to rush back out of that shoulder. He's going to be a beast.

[Biz Nasty]

Somebody kept saying Maya Culpa online where it wasn't the same shoulder he hurt his last season.

[Keith Yandle]

Okay, well, we need to know that.

[Yan Stastny]

Really? That would be.

[Biz Nasty]

I. When you guys even told me about it, I didn't even see the video of him getting hurt at training.

[Yan Stastny]

Now I just imagine it was 50.

[Biz Nasty]

50 of these comments might have been completely wrong. And it was the same shoulder and the video was in reverse. I don't know.

[Yan Stastny]

But we should definitely know that.

[Biz Nasty]

I don't even know what fucking shoulder he hurt last season. I just know that he hurt his shoulder.

[Keith Yandle]

I'm gonna look at the video right now and we're gonna see it was the opposite shoulder. No way.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay.

[Abes]

Yeah, yeah. It was his left shoulder that he recently hurt and it was his right shoulder.

[Yan Stastny]

He should just get them both done right now. No.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. I would agree with. Yeah. Just kind of tighten him up like rookie of the year.

[Keith Yandle]

The right one might be. Must be completely fine. The fact we didn't know that, that is. That's a tough.

[Biz Nasty]

You guys are the ones talking about. I'm like, I haven't even seen this video yet.

[Keith Yandle]

I'm the one who said it.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. Oh, sucks to be you.

[Sean Avery]

Shanks.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

The shanks on the pot are just. You reach a limit of saying things that are completely wrong at 10, it's like he's got the shanks, Shanks, Shanks.

[Biz Nasty]

But. But happy for him. And I think it's a great term. And it goes back to that question, how long do you think a player should have to wait? I think that he gets like an eight year commitment is a long time.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

He.

[Keith Yandle]

If.

[Biz Nasty]

If at the end of this, five years, he hasn't been shown anything. I don't think anybody in Chicago, based on how things are progressing and things are moving in league that anybody's shocked if it's like, hey, time to move on. It's more of like a. Like, oh, fuck. Management couldn't figure it out around him. But I like the deal for him. I'm happy for him. I think that Base like you said on, on what Leo made like you're like oh this is great. This is great. $3 million less. And everybody keeps sending us the stat sheet that he's got more points, more points per game, more this, more that than. Than Leo Carlson. So according to them they got a Baron. But if you're him, you're like but I got a little bit of a setback here. I'm not going to be playing the first 20, 25 games of the year. This is a nice, comforting, comforting contract for me to just play through, get it and then on the next one, buddy, in five years, if he's who we think he is. Connor McDavid money 200 million. If that's if you could still get the eight year deal or I guess seven year deal.

[Keith Yandle]

Now the, the league wants and I want Chicago to get good again. That's a market that maybe and I'm from the years that they were just so dominant as I was playing. It's like that was that when they're good. The amount of money that they can make the league and the amount of like sellouts that they've had in a row during that run. Didn't they have the record at one point for sellouts in a row during that. That was it. Five year dynasty. I want them to get good again.

[Biz Nasty]

Do you guys think they make the playoffs in the next two years?

[Yan Stastny]

No. And I agree with you this. They got the two year window. I think it's going to be him just getting better and better. Guys wanting to go there and play with them. Like you hear it now. Guys wanting to go and play with Celebrini like guys are going to want to go there. I think the two year window of him kind of getting to be that dominant player that everyone thinks he's going to be and then that third year is when it just kind of takes off hopefully.

[Keith Yandle]

So what would be his sixth season?

[Biz Nasty]

G put the Chicago Blackhawks historic consecutive

[Keith Yandle]

sellout streak 535 games. It ended on October 24, 202113 years and covered both regular season and playoff games.

[Biz Nasty]

Shout out to Patty Kane.

[Keith Yandle]

I just, I just, I just.

[Yan Stastny]

The anthem singer.

[Keith Yandle]

I just went from the Hle Rockets to just smacking it dead center middle of the face with a driver with ripping out that stat out of. Out of nowhere.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh boy. Hey, you're back after the. The shoulder. Wrong shoulder right streak right shank baby.

[Keith Yandle]

G says all so G Patty Kane resigning there.

[Biz Nasty]

So God, Chris Chell.

[Keith Yandle]

That's a possibility. He's saying yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Chris Chelios was on a radio show or like a TV segment and he said that right now the front runners. After talking to Patty Kane, I think he was at Fanatics Fest as well. Either between the Buffalo Sabers or the Chicago Blackhawks. Either one would be a win in my opinion. And personally for selfish reasons, I would like to see him back in Buffalo or. Or in Buffalo.

[Pasha]

Excuse me.

[Keith Yandle]

Yes.

[Yan Stastny]

Just because they have a better chance and they're going to be a better team. Right. Than Chicago.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. Is Patty Kane a lefty who plays right wing?

[Keith Yandle]

Yes,

[Yan Stastny]

he's a center that plays D.

[Biz Nasty]

That's.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, that's our way.

[Yan Stastny]

His, his curve is pretty straight.

[Biz Nasty]

Ebug. Let's.

[Keith Yandle]

Well, Zegris, Biz, Ziegers and Drysdale, it's pretty cool. These, these guys are buddies. They get traded separate. Oh no, that. Was that the same trade? Separate trades, right?

[Yan Stastny]

I believe so.

[Biz Nasty]

I believe separate.

[Keith Yandle]

Ok. They end up back in Philly. Separate. Either way they end up on another team together. They both signed four year deals. Zegras 9.1, Drysdale 6.5. I love Zegras deal too. Now with every, every contract that's out there is just different in my eyes after the deals now, like it's just all changed. You get that he was, Zegras was so good in the regular season. He was awesome in the playoffs. I love that he earned it.

[Yan Stastny]

Earned every dollar of it gets to go to a new plate. That, that's why we're talking about like you get this certain amount of years with one. With one team and it's like, okay, things might dry, one coach might not like me. Like he went from having a coach in Anaheim, what was his name, Ronan Cronin, who hated him, didn't want to play for him. Then he goes to Philly and has a coach that loves him, plays him on the first line and. And there you go, boom. He's. Now he's got how much money in the bank? So I think it's awesome for him and Drysdale as well.

[Keith Yandle]

Great player. But yeah, the money's an arbitration here on Monday, so I need to see some good arbitration.

[Biz Nasty]

Do you think so? So, so Zegras, I would imagine got that deal after the Leo Carlson thing had been settled. Do you guys think that maybe he gets that type of, of money if Carlson's making 18 with Philly or do you think that's a little bit less because there's more to go? Because I. Sometimes these things happen one after another.

[Yan Stastny]

So probably have to be less. Right?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, I feel like, I feel like maybe that number is a little bit more down and. Or maybe they, they paid him more money to have to commit less time to him. You know, let, let's, let's see what you can do the next couple years and then, you know. Cause like I feel like if, if

[Keith Yandle]

he gets that Tim or the team that wanted four years, I think that's a.

[Biz Nasty]

Just a great come to the table and like for him, he's probably like, oh, I could keep doing what I did last year. I just need the ice time. And, and he, I know that he gets along really well with the core group of Geyser. Like they all like hang out off the ice and so I just feel like it's a good spot for him to be. And. Yeah, yeah. And he gets. That's got to be top end money for, for Trevor Zegras, like him getting over 9 million. Like I think we're all.

[Yan Stastny]

But he proved it last year. No.

[Biz Nasty]

Hundred percent. But were you a little surprised when you saw over 9?

[Yan Stastny]

I'm not surprised with anything anymore.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, I was really not.

[Biz Nasty]

I was a little, I was a little surprised, but more like happy for him. And like, okay, I like this because like the team didn't have to commit a crazy amount of time for him. And, and obviously I thought of the Leo Carlson not going through and like, oh, they got a little bit more money to play around with.

[Keith Yandle]

So all the money like is. Is nuts. But at some point not every team's going to spend to the cap. That's what's kind of weird about it all. Like there's no chance that like, just

[Yan Stastny]

think right now, Sid has never made $9 million.

[Keith Yandle]

I know, but how was Winnipeg going to pay 135 million in salary whenever it gets to that? So that's actually going to be interesting. If there's just going to be teams that are spending so much less, there's really no difference than a cap.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, I mean I. And also Carolina just proved they went on 11 million under and, and won a Stanley cup, so they'll move them.

[Yan Stastny]

And we got all these, we got all these talks about the Houstons, the going back to Phoenix's, the Austin's, like, they're, they're teams that have the money. If you're not willing to.

[Biz Nasty]

Do you think still in Winnipeg in 10 years?

[Keith Yandle]

No, and I hate saying that to jets fans, but the way the league's going,

[Yan Stastny]

I.

[Keith Yandle]

No, I think. Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Where does it go?

[Keith Yandle]

I think that Biz to Atlanta, back to Phoenix. Keith and I were hearing, because we

[Biz Nasty]

were talking about another Phoenix move.

[Keith Yandle]

We're talking about two new teams coming in and then we're being told that on this trip that they'll be four new teams coming in. I never heard that. Did you?

[Biz Nasty]

I think, I think that you're. Well, the reason they say that is because then there would be what, 38 and then. Or no, it'd be 36 and then nine in each division.

[Keith Yandle]

And they just.

[Biz Nasty]

Weird.

[Keith Yandle]

They want more teams in the United States. Like the baseball has one, right? Like they want more markets in the United States. But I never, I was like, wow, two awesome guys will get paid. 23 more guys a year making tons of money than in the NHL. But the league is probably already a touch bit watered down, I'd say. And then you're going to go two more. That's a lot of.

[Yan Stastny]

They're going to be playing 120 games by then to a regular season.

[Keith Yandle]

Guys are making 33 million, but they're getting, they're getting 10 days off.

[Biz Nasty]

They're chewing sunflower seeds during their shifts, spitting tobacco on the ice,

[Keith Yandle]

warming up, warming up on the bench with a donut on their stitching, shutouts, slap shots.

[Biz Nasty]

Holy sh.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, I can't wait. All right, we got some more signings. The blues signed Connor McMichael. Biz, six year deal, 6.75 a year. So they made the trade and then boom, they lock them up. That's. That's what feels good as a player.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, they got a lot of guys in that, that like $7 million range that I like, I like him. I think he's got a good motor on him. Maybe like definitely a little bit undersized, but I understood the trade. I would say that you're probably getting more from him on a night to night basis than you are with Kyru. But I don't think his high end hits Kyru's high end, if that makes any sense to you. Would you agree with that? Or at least yet. I think that's a solid because McMichael got dealt for Kyru over to St. Louis, so Kyru over to Washington. I was, I, I think that Washington is like, I think this is an untapped resource that our coach, who's unbelievable at working with players that we've brought here before who have untapped potential, that he's going to bring it out of them just like them. Chickren, Strom, Thompson. Can you guys help me out with other names? Maybe on Washington who have been able to get there and then all of a sudden they're having their career years.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, yeah, I like that.

[Biz Nasty]

I mean, and I, and I, but I also like the deal for St. Louis because I feel like they get a like minded player based on what they're trying to build there. They're, they need every guy. Lunch pail. Yes. They have some high end skill guys like Snugaroo, but I would say the identity of the Blues is more of like we're bringing our fucking lunch pails. Like a few years ago when they were, they were ramming the jets through the end wall and every game in the second half that season they were cut. They were going balls to the wall.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, McMichael's one of those guys. Just seems like every game he tries 110% gives it every shift. Great. Yeah, it's a great signing for them. But I, I think, did you say that you think he's as good as Cairo?

[Keith Yandle]

He said for your buck.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, I think you're getting more bang for your buck. I said I would say that you're, you're getting more from McMichael on an, on an every night basis, at least proven.

[Abes]

Okay.

[Biz Nasty]

Just like I feel like there's night, I feel like there's 20 games a year like Hiru might go missing and hey, that's just, you know, sometimes those high end guys, they're trying to find their flow state and that's how they play and whatever. I feel like, I feel like the coach and what's his name, Carberry will be able to push the right buttons and get him to buy in from Washington. And if you're Cairo too, you have to feel like, well, if what happened in St. Louis happens again in Washington, you look more like the idiot. Like it's easy to say, hey, it just didn't work out and you know, it wasn't, it wasn't going well. But especially with a team like that and Carberry as a coach, then you got to start looking in the mirror.

[Keith Yandle]

I agree with all that. I, I, I'm excited to see Washington. I think Washington's going to be really good. I also think Montreal is going to be good. They resigned Kirby Doc one year, 3.6 contract. He's been through a lot, all the injuries and then this year to be just ridiculed by the fans and then come back that next game against Tampa and score happy for him. Interviewing him, I, I, I, I really hoped he'd be good.

[Biz Nasty]

What, and he still have the G Wagon.

[Yan Stastny]

Did he have a G wagon as a rookie?

[Biz Nasty]

First thing he bought.

[Yan Stastny]

Wow, what a legend.

[Biz Nasty]

Legit was at the dealership waiting for it to deposit. He slept in a tent outside and then it was. Oh yeah. Drove as soon as it hit next morning. Drove off like a flat screen TV on. On Black Friday.

[Keith Yandle]

Just left cash.

[Yan Stastny]

I don't even think that the signing bonuses nowadays you can even get a G wagon.

[Biz Nasty]

No, I don't. I don't think. Well used. You got a pre owned? Oh yeah, Pre owned. It was an old one.

[Yan Stastny]

He's drafted in 18.

[Keith Yandle]

Bought it, flipped it, made more. Selling it to put some clothes in the back.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, that was 40.

[Keith Yandle]

It was a cris.

[Yan Stastny]

The 300.

[Biz Nasty]

The Bentley. I put the Bentley emblem on it. I didn't. Didn't Horace sell a G wagon to Longo and there was an alligator in it? Or am I mixing up two stories?

[Keith Yandle]

No, I put. He put an alligator at somebody's front doorstep, I believe.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, that's right.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's right.

[Yan Stastny]

Volun, I think. Right.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh yeah. But Kirby, Doc, like you said, if you would. If you would have said after that game where he. He didn't get it. He didn't get the red line, I would have said his days as a Montreal Canadian are numbered. He's gone.

[Yan Stastny]

I know, but his coach had faith in him. That's why you need a player's coach

[Biz Nasty]

back them right back in the lineup. And then that fourth line went on a bit of a run for two rounds.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, they were great.

[Biz Nasty]

They were Unbelievable run. Yeah, I think it was him. Bolduke and Texier Balduke came out real

[Keith Yandle]

hot at the beginning of the.

[Biz Nasty]

Real hot. There was one other guy that got. Maybe it was Kapanen who got put in with them at some point, but either way they were. They were buzzing.

[Keith Yandle]

Who do you think goes further next year? Is it farther or further? I never know that one.

[Biz Nasty]

Either one.

[Keith Yandle]

Either one works. Montreal.

[Yan Stastny]

Either one.

[Biz Nasty]

I would say there's always a drop off. Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

Wait, who did you ask?

[Biz Nasty]

Both of us. I just said either one works. No, no.

[Yan Stastny]

What team?

[Sean Avery]

What teams?

[Biz Nasty]

Washington or Montreal? I would say that Washington goes farther next year.

[Yan Stastny]

I bet they play each other and Montreal beats them in the playoffs.

[Biz Nasty]

Retribution for two years ago when. What? Wilson ended up on the bench with Anderson. I would love to see those guys go back out.

[Keith Yandle]

That'd be conference finals. Montreal's going to the cup finals. You called? Yeah, right.

[Biz Nasty]

No. Unless one of them's a first and there's a wild card in there.

[Yan Stastny]

But yeah, last year they played first one or two years ago.

[Keith Yandle]

God, I just can't picture either one of those teams being a wild card team. But that would be a sick series payback. Wilson kills three more guys in the series, you're like, oh, man, this didn't go great.

[Yan Stastny]

I mean, the way. The way that Washington looks right now, I wouldn't want to play them in the playoffs. They're big, fast.

[Biz Nasty]

Huge.

[Keith Yandle]

They are huge. Biz. I'm pretty sure I. I think I know who this surprise guest is coming.

[Biz Nasty]

Who?

[Keith Yandle]

Avery?

[Biz Nasty]

Yep. Yeah, I got Sean Avery as a special guest for you guys.

[Keith Yandle]

Just because I gotta go see this movie. Biz.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. So I'm gonna go see it this week.

[Keith Yandle]

It's movies.

[Biz Nasty]

And he's ready now to come on so we can congratulate him.

[Keith Yandle]

Congrats, buddy. This is awesome.

[Biz Nasty]

It's unreal. And we want to get on and talk to you about it. And you can kind of set the table for what I'm about to witness, because the online reviews speak for themselves. Number one movie around the world right now. I think it's going to shatter some box offer, box office records or at least be in the top five. So congrats. And. And how has the reception been for you?

[Sean Avery]

The reception?

[Biz Nasty]

Reception. I'm a little. I'm a little parched right now. I need another water.

[Keith Yandle]

Another play in Sunningdale. Abes, I have a question for you.

[Sean Avery]

Hold on. Should I answer business first?

[Keith Yandle]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Yan Stastny]

Sorry.

[Sean Avery]

The reception's been good. I think there was a lot of hate online prior to the lead up of the release of this movie. And so you didn't know.

[Keith Yandle]

You know,

[Sean Avery]

it makes you realize, like, the online world sometimes is not reality. Or for the most part, it's not reality. So the reception's been good. I mean, people love the movie. I've seen it twice. I don't know what to say, man. It's. It's. It's really good. I saw Ra. I mean, ra. I think Ra liked it, right?

[Keith Yandle]

We. Ra's coming on. We should have.

[Biz Nasty]

We should just have them on now.

[Keith Yandle]

Have them on now, because Ra should have them on now.

[Biz Nasty]

Let's go.

[Yan Stastny]

You gotta put spoiler alert.

[Biz Nasty]

I actually texted him to just say, make Avery a part of Ra's world. So I must have forgot to do that. But, hey, it all worked out, right?

[Keith Yandle]

It worked out. And, yeah, we can't. You guys can't spoil anything.

[Yan Stastny]

I know. I don't want spoilers.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. 3,000. Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

No, Avery, don't do that.

[Biz Nasty]

Actually, can we Roll. Come on. Raise. World clip, please.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hello, everybody. Welcome to Iri's World here in the Spit and Chicklets podcast. Sean, unbelievable movie. You were Great. Tons of FaceTime. I. I've been telling people this is why you go to the movies. Movies like this, the. The craftsmanship on display. What Nolan does is unbelievable. Like, no cgi, all practical effects. Just a stunning movie. Jar of gape the whole time. Can't wait to see it again myself. Congratulations, my friend.

[Sean Avery]

Thank you, sir. Did you see it in IMAX or 70?

[Ryan Whitney]

I saw it on IMAX. The. There's only one 70 millimeter IMAX in New England. It was down Providence. I couldn't get a ticket for that, but I started IMAX just north of Boston. It was just. Just like stunning, man. It's just. I didn't read the book, so I was kind of going in blind. Matt Damon was incredible. Definitely gonna get an Oscar nomination. I thought he was almost like. He was almost like. Reminded me like goodwill hunt and going through a midlife crisis because nobody did like, you know, accents. They just kind of use their own. And he was kind of cynical, sarcastic, funny, kind of like a Cleveland Browns coach a couple times during the movie, but he's definitely getting nominated. I thought Anne Hathaway was terrific. John Leguizamo, awesome. He looked like Feech Lamana from the Sopranos with. With his get up, but just. Just tremendous stuff. And Himesh Patel who was in Tenant, you must must know him. He was incredible too. It was just, like I said, just a slobanaka jaw drop. An awesome flick.

[Yan Stastny]

That's an unbelievable. Don't want to go see it.

[Biz Nasty]

That is Cisco.

[Keith Yandle]

That was Siskel and Ebert esque.

[Sean Avery]

Like Ra. What would you compare it to?

[Ryan Whitney]

Geez, you know, I know the obvious thing is people are going to say is Gladiator, but that. I think that's too easy as a comparison because of the swords and sandals aspect. I don't know, it's just. It's so. It's such a unique movie, I guess. A little bit of pot, maybe a little bit of Castaway in there. I guess at a certain point. I don't know, man.

[Keith Yandle]

Like yelling for Wilson. Castaway.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, there's some this and yelling Fish.

[Sean Avery]

Fish.

[Yan Stastny]

The producer said it was like Avatar where like, you go out, like you need to see it in theater. That type of. That type of movie.

[Keith Yandle]

Do I have to see this movie in IMAX or am I missing out?

[Biz Nasty]

I wanted to go in IMAX.

[Sean Avery]

I've seen it in IMAX and 70 millimeter and I gotta be honest with you, I was able. But the 70 millimeter was the second time I've seen it. The first time I saw it, I didn't really. I didn't have the ability to retain any information. It was at the premiere. The second time I watched it, I was like, oh, my God, how did I miss that the first time? There's a lot of nooks and crannies. There's a lot of connecting the dots, not in a overly heady way, but like imax. There's so much on the screen. When I condensed it and watched it in 70 millimeter, I could sort of dial it in a little bit more. And it was. I don't know, I just. I retain the information. But again, the first time was IMAX at the premiere. And, like, it was overwhelming. You know, there was a lot going on.

[Biz Nasty]

So was it a little bit more fun being at the premiere in a sense of, like, the work is done and, like, everybody's enjoying the success of it compared to maybe how, like, dialed in and aggressive the shooting days were? Because, like, you've mentioned before, being on set with them, not a lot of going on. You're there to fucking work.

[Sean Avery]

Yeah, I mean, I guess the thing was we were. I mean, when we shot Iceland, we were in Winnebagos. So, like, when we would finish work, we would come back to camp and we would all be together again. So we had a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun. The guys in this movie, the crew of guys, oh, man, these guys are some wild dudes. I mean, you really got some wild dudes on this movie. I don't think you could make this movie without casting some wild ones. Like, just in the appearance and like, how everybody meshed and, and, and, yeah, it was pretty wild. It's. You gotta see it. It's like this thing is so massive. It's so.

[Biz Nasty]

Are you referring to the fact that, like, the buy in and commitment from the guys who might. Like, for instance, you, like, you were on screen a lot, but, like, I think you had maybe one talking role. I heard about you, like, through a pig or something. But we won't, we won't. We won't give any spoilers out. But just like, when you're rolling the boats and stuff like that, these are long, hard days where you have to have, like, buy in from all these, like, extras, in a sense.

[Sean Avery]

Yeah, I mean, I, I don't necessarily. It's funny. When you see the movie, you'll realize there's not that many people in the movie that talk like, Matt carries this movie, Anne Hathaway carries this movie. Tom Holland carries the movie hamesh. There's like 10 people in the movie, right? Ra. Kind of when you, when you boil

[Ryan Whitney]

it down, yeah, Pattinson was great too. He was.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh yeah.

[Sean Avery]

Pattinson's incredible leg was almost. But, you know, so you add it up, there's like, it's almost like there's 10 leads in this movie and everybody. Samantha Morton, Charlize Theron's incredible in it. Like, yeah, you needed a bunch of guys that were seasoned actors so that they could step to the occasion when called upon, but also live in a world and, and, and make a world look real when you're not driven by dialogue all the time. Like, a lot of it was. I mean, I was lucky I got a lot of it amongst our group, but. But some guys didn't get any. And they're still in the movie. Like viscerally they're in the movie and physically you feel them at times. There's a last scene in our section. Whatever. It's not a spoiler. We all die except Odysseus and a guy that we worked with, Matt Lasky, who's this giant. He embraces me at the end because, you know we're dying. And like, what he did without words was incredible. It's so you'll see it once you see this movie and every bit and piece ties in together and it's like, there's no fat on the bone on this thing. It's really a rocket launcher. It's, it's. Yeah, no, it's wild.

[Ryan Whitney]

Like, how grueling was the, like the physical work compared to say like maybe training camp or a playoff series? Because, I mean, you guys, everybody was buff. I mean, David, freezing.

[Biz Nasty]

How, how many days were you there? Total filming?

[Sean Avery]

It was like 70 days maybe on set, but that was spread out over five months. Yeah, there were a couple of times. I mean, I saw John Bernthal. They had to take Bernthal out of the horse at a certain point because he was turning blue and you know, he was shivering so much he couldn't get his lines out. He couldn't even, he couldn't even grab the hand of a guy beside him to try and ground himself just so he could say his lines. Like, yes, this was the most physically demanding movie that anyone has ever made. I'll go on the record and say that.

[Yan Stastny]

Abes, you seem in, I mean this, with all due respect, very humbled to be like a part of this. Like the way your demeanor is about this is kind of something we're not used to seeing when you're talking on camera. Is it more so like just because you've seen the movie now in theater and see what it all became and all these guys that are in it. Like you seem very blessed to be in it.

[Sean Avery]

I mean I might be staring down the barrel of a gun of like one of the greatest movies ever made.

[Yan Stastny]

You know, it's awesome.

[Keith Yandle]

I don't know.

[Sean Avery]

I mean it's tough for me to say. I've seen it.

[Keith Yandle]

I've seen a. Reviews. They're all. The reviews are incredible. So I haven't seen a bad review for this movie. That's not that common nowadays. Right? All right.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, no.

[Yan Stastny]

What did Rotten Tomatoes say?

[Biz Nasty]

It was unreal on Rotten Tomatoes.

[Yan Stastny]

I was kidding.

[Ryan Whitney]

The only idiots complain it was just Twitter. Like it was like just these fake made up things. Like it's a 3,000 year old, you know, littered piece of literature about mythology and people are complaining about like who, who was cast. It's not like they got like Russell Crowe to play Martin Luther King or something. It was like, it's like take, take a breath here. It's like it's a movie. Just didn't enjoy it. I think that was just a lot of on online noise.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. And let's focus on the positives. I mean you got to work with probably what will go down as the best director of all time, if not like a top three. Like I'm not the most privy to like your guys, Mount Rushmore of directors but, but Christopher Nolan. I mean, fuck an IMAX taking that risk. What was that like?

[Sean Avery]

Yeah, I mean the IMAX cameras are, I mean it was incredible. At one point we were in the middle of the ocean. I think we were in the Mediterranean. And you're on this boat. It's a replica of a, of a 3000 year old Viking ship. This guy in Sweden made a bunch of money and decided he wanted to build a Viking ship. So this is the most incredible ship you've ever seen. Like a 3000 year old ship that can manage the water better than modern day ships. They built things back then that were just, they didn't have technology. It was stay alive or die type of thing. And that's really kind of what the movie is. It's very interesting. It's like stay alive or die. And then tying in Zeus's, Zeus's rules and, and, and then the gods. Yeah, this thing was a monster. There were times where I was Colder than I've ever been in my life. And like, really just thinking about whether I could get through the next half an hour. And I would say I was one of the tougher guys on the, on this whole entire shoot. Yeah. But then some incredibly beautiful moments. Like, all right, you saw that shot with the dolphins.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. That's really unintentional.

[Sean Avery]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

Zero CGI in the movie.

[Sean Avery]

Everything is, is practical, so it's shot through the camera. Maybe the whirlpool. Obviously Chris and the FX team, they enhanced it a little bit, but to, to get a real whirlpool, they had like, I don't know, 10 or 12 boats just going around in a circle, manipulating the ocean so that our boat that we were in got pulled towards it. And it, it. So yeah, there's, it's all real. There's finishing aspects that obviously color grading stuff, but

[Biz Nasty]

that.

[Sean Avery]

The effects, when Scylla comes down and eats six guys off the boat, those are like ratchets that, that actually came down in a. And it was a hand that grabbed a guy and pulled him 20ft in the air. Like, all that is real.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, the, the horror elements, I wasn't really expecting them. And the scene in the cave, I'll just leave it at that. Like, holy man, Edge of my seat. It comes relatively early in the movie, but I had no idea what I was in for then.

[Keith Yandle]

Are we dropping a spoiler alert before this interview? Like, are we, are we getting buried?

[Sean Avery]

It's a 3,000 year old story, guys. What about Cersei Ra?

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, oh, yes. I mean, at the Morton. Oh, she was phenomenal. We're not going to spoil anything. She was absolutely phenomenal in that, in that scene, man. She was so, so scary. So creepy. Yeah, she's awesome and everything. But yeah, that scene, that was another, another like horror element. And when you just said stay alive or die, that's what I almost said to the boomer next to me in the show who kept pulling his phone out. Like, he pulled it out and I, and I looked and like, because everyone's a pussy, like, not that I'm Joe Tough Guy, but I was like, I was like, can you put that away, please? Loud enough? Sweet him. He puts it away. He took it out five seconds later, fucking at least 10 times. And I don't want to keep saying shit now I'm going to ruin the experience for other people. And I'm just like kind of glaring at him. And the worst part is he puts it down and he doesn't even hit the button. So you had to wait for the fucking Zimmers.

[Biz Nasty]

You should move on from the bike lane lanes to being the guy in the theater who checks for people who bring out their phones.

[Ryan Whitney]

Buddy.

[Sean Avery]

Honestly, I had. I had the same type of thing going on beside me. And I was with my buddy Budman, Shout Out Matt Budman. He said to me after the movie, he goes, man, I gotta tell you, you're ready. You're ready to take the next step. Because if there was ever a person and a time to lose their shit, it would have been you on those people beside us that came in late and then spilt their coke on me. Like I went through, you know, people haven't been in theaters a lot and I. I'll give them some leeway. Like, they forget the rules and the etiquette, you know, because we haven't been going regularly.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. That they're just entitled.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

I think we should talk more about, like, grinding my gear.

[Keith Yandle]

Segment sponsored by.

[Biz Nasty]

All right, this is. This is taking the cake here. We kind of mix in Ra's world in the grind. Mike, did any of them.

[Yan Stastny]

Could any of the actors take royalties on the movie as opposed to getting paid up front?

[Biz Nasty]

I heard only that's over now.

[Sean Avery]

What's his name?

[Biz Nasty]

I heard Nolan was the only guy.

[Ryan Whitney]

Back end points. Yeah, you gotta.

[Biz Nasty]

Maybe Damon.

[Sean Avery]

Yeah. I don't know if actors get points on Chris's movies. I know for us, if you work a certain amount of days, you hit a full residual. So it's like you get your maxed out share on whatever it is. So, yeah, this movie. And it's funny because, like, when I think about it, and once you start working and you see how residuals work, like they're actually real and they don't stop forever. So, like, Nash is going to get my residuals. So every time you put one of these movies up on the board, they just keep stacking. They're like these beautiful annuities that certainly. I'm talking about the blue chips like Chris's movies. Of course, there's a handful of people. James Cameron, you know, Villeneuve with Dune. These are real movies that pay out real money. So. Yeah, I mean, this thing's gonna. I don't know who's gonna take this thing out. Like I called it, I said I knew when we were making it. I go, this thing's just gonna. It's going to blow people away. It's going to make a fucking shit ton of money. And it seems like that's the case so far.

[Yan Stastny]

You said it was going to be the biggest movie of all time when you came on, I believe. Or maybe that was Merle's.

[Sean Avery]

No, I, I think I might have said that. I mean it's ra, you know, like the thing is just massive biz. It's going to be your favorite movie, I think. And you're a, you're a finicky movie guy. He's got one movie, he's gonna walk out and go, that was, that's my,

[Biz Nasty]

well, that's why I kind of wanted

[Yan Stastny]

to be on his phone.

[Biz Nasty]

No, no, not when I'm not when I'm watching the movies like that. No way. I might leave mine in the car for that one. Like interactions with the big stars, like who would have blown you away as far as like humbleness and, or it seemed to feel like it was one big family and everyone really got along.

[Sean Avery]

Yeah, I mean, no, I'll start with Damon. He got down to 167 from 200 pounds. The guy was like sharpened steel. First on set, last off set, carried the entire production. Like he's in every shot in the movie pretty much, with the exception of probably maybe 10 or 15. This guy put one up on the board, like championship season.

[Keith Yandle]

Like, like, give me, give me the

[Sean Avery]

NHL comp Stevie Y in 2002, Stanley cup and gold medal on one leg type of thing. Yeah, Damon's, Damon's Boston. You know, he really is like, he embodies what we love about people from Boston, which is not afraid to get into the trenches. No bullshit. Fucking get to work. Let's get the job done. Let's have some fun too and get after it, you know, and have some laughs. He's a jokester. I mean, he listen, he put up, he listened to my ship for five months saying some wild stuff, getting in the kitchens of our other actors. He was sort of, he was kind of like, he just sort of hovered over everything. He only got mad at me once about one thing. I started a little bit of a, a couple of the guys, I, I, I pitted them against each other in an afternoon. Said one guy took a line from another guy. It was really important.

[Keith Yandle]

You're an wait, you're an agitator, stirring

[Biz Nasty]

it up behind the scenes.

[Sean Avery]

I mean, we were best friends. There was, you know, a group of us, Odysseus's men. Like we're all like best friends now. Like we will be for life, you know, so. Yeah, and these guys are wild. It's not like it was a one way street. I mean we got some we had some real good shit talkers. Everything from Jimmy Gonzalez, a Mexican orphan, you know, to Anthony Molinari, who's the most Boston dude of all time and talks with a Boston accent in the movie. Like, it's incredible. These guys were animals and Matt was our guy the whole time.

[Abes]

So.

[Sean Avery]

Yeah, yeah, no, we. They'll make a behind the scenes about this movie someday. You guys have never seen Hearts of Darkness, have you?

[Ryan Whitney]

I bought Apocalypse Now. Yeah, yeah, I've seen it.

[Sean Avery]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

What did he say when he got mad at you? Did he snap on you or was it it more lighthearted?

[Sean Avery]

No, he told me to fix it. He told me. He told me to fix it by

[Keith Yandle]

the end of lunch, demanding.

[Biz Nasty]

Because he didn't. He didn't want any tension. He didn't want the room to be in bad shape. You mentioned, you mentioned being cold in. In the Trojan Horse. Now that's something that came up in the movie Troy as well.

[Keith Yandle]

What?

[Biz Nasty]

Like, like, what do you mean? You're. You were stuck inside this horse for so long shooting that, like, guys were freezing. Explain. Explain the whole day.

[Sean Avery]

Yeah, well, yeah, we started at 6 in the morning. The horse is on the beach. The tide comes in, the waves come in. The waves come inside the horse and fill the horse up with water. We're supposed to be hiding in the horse. We don't want the Trojans to know that we're inside the horse. So Chris gets in the horse with the camera and we film all day. And the water's freezing, and the water's freezing, and then it gets more freezing. And Morocco's. People think Morocco's hot. Morocco's freezing cold. Morocco at night. Oh, my God, it's like the coldest place, one of the coldest places I've ever been. No snow. No, but it rains and like, it's just so cold there. The sand gets cold. So, yeah, we were in this water and it's. We're drowning in the water. We're breathing through little tubes, little straws that we've made. So we're under the water, we're soaking wet, our clothes are wet. You can't really wear a wetsuit underneath your costume because if you do, it's just so thin it doesn't even matter. There were times we were in a pit in Iceland where I just said like, oh, fuck, man. I don't know. I don't know if I can do this.

[Keith Yandle]

Did anyone quit?

[Sean Avery]

No, because you would have got ridden so hard. We had such ball busters. You would have never. You would have never Lived it down. Everyone would have known. We would have told everyone.

[Keith Yandle]

Like a successful locker room.

[Pasha]

Yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

People say that Charlie's Theron could be difficult to work with. Did you see any of that?

[Sean Avery]

So her and Matt worked together alone for five days, and that was during one of our breaks to come back home. You know, very rarely in a movie these days do they let you. We flew back to America three different times and had, like, two weeks off because this thing was so, you know, you just couldn't.

[Keith Yandle]

You couldn't do it.

[Sean Avery]

Yeah. You had to give us a break. You really did. So Charlize and Matt were. They were in Morocco on their own for five days. But I heard she, you know, you'll see the movie. She's so good, Nick. She's like. It's like Uma Thurman and Kill Bill. But, like.

[Keith Yandle]

I don't know.

[Sean Avery]

She doesn't raise her voice once. She's so good. Calypso, she's playing. She's playing the ultimate goddess.

[Keith Yandle]

Playing number one.

[Yan Stastny]

She is.

[Sean Avery]

She's playing like, you know, she seduces Odysseus for seven years.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I could see that happen. What about Johnny Burn?

[Yan Stastny]

She take his dog?

[Ryan Whitney]

Well, don't spoil that one, Sean.

[Sean Avery]

I won't. I won't. I won't spoil that.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, she takes more.

[Ryan Whitney]

What about Johnny?

[Sean Avery]

Bernthal is $2 the best?

[Biz Nasty]

And the Trojan Horse.

[Sean Avery]

Bernthal's the best. Bernthal is the best. I mean, the memes, the. Let me tell you something. This guy's got one year. And by the way, incredible actor. I saw him and Chris, there's a great story. We're raiding Troy. We're coming up the steps. And my whole thing was like, I don't chase the camera in this movie, okay? There's a couple of guys that. That. That chase the camera.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, yeah, right. You weren't a camera chaser. You with those teeth. Those are made for imax, by the way.

[Sean Avery]

I'm not allowed to smile in any Nolan movie. And my teeth are getting more. They're finally getting fucked up. And, like, one's bigger, drop down the other. So they're starting to get a little. But Bernthal followed me on a take, and my whole thing was like, I was always on the back. I would come up on the end partly because I was, you know, buffering the civilians and the background extras and the stunt guys. And, like, that was my own war that I was fighting back there. So John decides to follow me one take. And Chris, at the end of the takes, like, John, you can't follow Sean, okay? He's always hiding from the camera. If you want to be in the movie, I need you here. I need you in this area. Which was incredible, because then Jon's like, that was sort of a challenge to Bernthal. And then he's got to figure out, what am I going to do? Long story short, I watch Chris walk over and take a trunk. Pull a trunk out of a burning fire. And what you'll see in the movie is a lot of fire. But the fire is all. It's all piped fire. So they can turn the fire off and turn the fire on. He goes into the fire, he takes this trunk out, he walks it over, and he puts it down on the ground, and he says, sit on the trunk. That is one of the most incredible things I've ever seen. It was like Scotty Bowman and Steve Iserman having a little bit of a. Like, a spirited discussion about the half

[Yan Stastny]

ball

[Sean Avery]

and coming to an agreement. Bernthal's the best. I love John. I loved working with him. I'll work with him again. He's the ultimate guy. I mean, he's so fun.

[Keith Yandle]

Another looks like, right?

[Sean Avery]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Biz Nasty]

I had. I had one more question about the imax. So they say that the longest you can go with, like, one IMAX reel is about close to three minutes. So you can never have, like, dialogue longer than that, or you'd have to kind of, like, intertwine it. They also say when you're filming in it, it radiates this, like, noise that might be a little bit annoying. So how was it for people to, like, do their lines while this noise was going, while you're filming it? Did you get to see much of that?

[Sean Avery]

Well, I did on Oppenheimer, but then on. On the Odyssey, they built a blimp so it goes over the camera and encapsulates all the sound, so when the camera's running, you don't really hear it anymore.

[Keith Yandle]

How much was this movie to make?

[Sean Avery]

It doesn't matter. They made it all back already.

[Biz Nasty]

Well, I think. I think they said 250 to make and then 125 to promote, for a total of 375. Quick math, not a big deal. Which. That's got to put it up there as one of the highest to make a movie of all time. Like, what's. What's the lead Titanic, maybe.

[Yan Stastny]

Every person that I've talked to that has seen it has said they've seen it twice. That's the craziest thing.

[Sean Avery]

And I guess you can't get a ticket like I mean certainly in New

[Keith Yandle]

York or L. A. I said about.

[Yan Stastny]

Well, you don't need one. You can just listen to this episode.

[Sean Avery]

You can't.

[Biz Nasty]

How many of the spoilers did we give up of a 2 hour and

[Keith Yandle]

40 movies I've tried to already forget. Get certain details. They said I don't want to bring them up again.

[Sean Avery]

You guys are forgetting it's a 3,000 year old story. There's no.

[Keith Yandle]

We don't know. We don't.

[Yan Stastny]

We didn't read it.

[Ryan Whitney]

They didn't read it.

[Keith Yandle]

John, did you already.

[Ryan Whitney]

No, I never got assigned it though. But you. I never actually got assigned it. I wasn't even familiar with it.

[Sean Avery]

Did you know how I read it through kids.

[Biz Nasty]

Did you read it?

[Sean Avery]

Yeah, I read kids books to Nash. They have some great kids book adaptations of the Odyssey and the Iliad. The Iliad was the. Is the precursor. That's essentially Troy when Helen. That whole story, that's what that's based off of. I. I think he's going to make the Iliad now. I mean who knows but like that would be wild, right? Ari backwards. Has anyone ever gone backwards?

[Keith Yandle]

Godfather too. Didn't they go backwards?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I mean he said actually he might do horror next. Sorry. Cut you off. Yeah.

[Sean Avery]

I don't know. Well, this one felt like a horror movie at times.

[Abes]

Definitely.

[Ryan Whitney]

Definitely.

[Keith Yandle]

World Dominion Dominion 2022658 million to produce

[Biz Nasty]

that doesn't seem like it made it made its money back. I never even heard of it.

[Keith Yandle]

They still make those.

[Biz Nasty]

I know the drastic.

[Keith Yandle]

Is it Dominion?

[Ryan Whitney]

Dominion.

[Keith Yandle]

Dominion.

[Sean Avery]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

If you don't even know how to say the name.

[Biz Nasty]

Is there anything else that you feel like you have to share from this experience that maybe we haven't asked you yet where you're like you just right when you think of doing this movie, your mind goes right back there all the time. Maybe it's an interaction. Maybe it's more of the. The torture that you were put through to capture this like anything else that really sticks out. The different landscapes and places that you got to travel maybe for the first time.

[Sean Avery]

Oh yeah. I mean there's that portion of it like some incredible locations. Favignana, Sicily. Lipery. I had never spent that much time on the ocean. I didn't know the Mediterranean was a cold ocean even in the summer. Morocco is a wild place that I don't think I'll ever go back to unless I'm getting paid. Scotland is incredible. Like Scotland is awesome. But I think Damon's got To take the lead on this whole thing. Just watching this guy. Like we were on the beach in Iceland. Everyone was tired. We didn't have a lot of time, whatever. I watched him do three takes where he just turned the dial on each take a little bit and what the output was, it was like, oh, my God. It was like watching like Connor McDavid, like, tweak an angle based on speed and timing. The way that he does it, where you're just.

[Ryan Whitney]

You're.

[Sean Avery]

You're totally amazed. And it was a little tweak. You know, it was making that cut a second earlier because he knew that you weren't going to be there. Like, there was. There was so many moments like that watching Damon. But that guy is a master of the craft. He really is. He really is. He's a. He's a fucking incredible dude. An incredible actor on the highest level. Guy. That guy goes toe to toe with pretty much everyone. Everyone talks about the bales and. And, you know, DiCaprio. When is Damon ever like, he's so good.

[Ryan Whitney]

Always.

[Sean Avery]

This one is tour de force.

[Ryan Whitney]

Absolutely.

[Sean Avery]

At the end, the final sequence. Ra. I mean, when he takes.

[Keith Yandle]

Don't say.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

I mean, he was even good. And We Bought a Zoo.

[Biz Nasty]

I never saw that one.

[Ryan Whitney]

Wait, if he. If you can't get the imax, obviously that's preferred, but I've seen some critics that have seen it in, you know, few different formats and they're like, you. You won't enjoy the movie any less if you don't get to see an imax. Obviously people prefer that, but I mean,

[Sean Avery]

how about the score? Ra. What about the music?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, I heard it wasn't Hans Zimmer. It was a different guy who's like one of the best up and coming. Up and comers.

[Ryan Whitney]

Ludwig Goranson.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, he did awesome. It was funny too. I mean, it's strife with. It's like 2:50 move, 2 hour, 50 minute movie. I didn't move, dude. At the end, man, I. My knees were killing me. I was like rubbing my knee and a dude in the aisle behind me was like struggling to walk out. He's like, oh, man. He goes. I feel like I was inside of that horse because he was sitting still for the whole freaking time.

[Keith Yandle]

The guy next to you lets him. He lets you use his phone light so you can actually get out before you fall over.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

You're like, thanks.

[Ryan Whitney]

Gonna get rolled by a boomer and end up on and going viral. Fight.

[Sean Avery]

Guess what? I just was in Montreal for a week shooting this new TV show, this new CBS show called Einstein.

[Ryan Whitney]

And

[Sean Avery]

it's about Einstein's great grandson who's a genius detective. And I play a hockey coach suspected of killing the referee, not you.

[Biz Nasty]

Believable.

[Keith Yandle]

Hey, believable.

[Biz Nasty]

That's method acting.

[Keith Yandle]

They knew the casting.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. They're like, look at this guy's bike lane videos. Hired.

[Ryan Whitney]

Where's it going to debut, Sean? Is going to be up Canada first or down here?

[Sean Avery]

No, it's a CBS show. It'll be up there first. You know Matthew Gubler, he was on Criminal Minds for a long time. Really good actor, great dude. Great dude.

[Biz Nasty]

I guess the last one for me is. Is like, did you ever expect, like, when you were done, like finishing playing, that your life would lead you to now being in a. The top movie in the world, maybe in the history of the world, and potentially I would say it'll go down as probably a easily a top 25 movie all time by the time it's said and done.

[Sean Avery]

Well, it's the first movie entirely shot on imax. I mean, I think. Did I ever think it feels like now, eventually, someday people aren't even going to remember that I was a hockey player. Which is so funny to think.

[Keith Yandle]

That's got to be a great feeling.

[Yan Stastny]

That's great.

[Biz Nasty]

That's got a. Yeah, great. Be a great feeling. Reinvent yourself.

[Keith Yandle]

Yeah, I kind of know the feeling, actually.

[Biz Nasty]

That's true. Yeah. From hockey player to vodka salesman.

[Keith Yandle]

It's a good feeling.

[Sean Avery]

Oh, by the way, I'm starting. I'm starting a hockey podcast in September.

[Keith Yandle]

Okay.

[Biz Nasty]

Fucking right.

[Keith Yandle]

Go waves.

[Biz Nasty]

What's the name of it?

[Sean Avery]

I'm doing 30 episodes. I'm doing 30 episodes only during the season by myself. And you know what? You know who sent me a nice message today? Vincent Trocheck.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, nice.

[Sean Avery]

Send me a nice message.

[Biz Nasty]

Did you play with Vince?

[Sean Avery]

Great guy.

[Biz Nasty]

Yan's is pretty.

[Sean Avery]

I don't even know him. And by the way, I've been hard on him with the pointer stick over the last couple of years.

[Biz Nasty]

Maybe he's getting ahead of it, you

[Sean Avery]

know, I just realized he was in a fun.

[Yan Stastny]

He's just a gentleman, like.

[Sean Avery]

And it's terrible, you know, New York, the Rangers. I don't want to get into it, but like, what have they done?

[Keith Yandle]

What have they done?

[Biz Nasty]

La Last, I guess, last hockey question here. Larkin, Stevie Y situation. What do you make of Stevie? Why? Stepping down as the gm?

[Sean Avery]

Well, first of all, it's more about Larkin at the World cup looking like he fixes washer machines in fucking Royal Oak, Michigan. And he's just like, totally smashed. And all I hear is a big old fuck bomb out of his mouth. Shirts off at the game.

[Keith Yandle]

I don't know, man.

[Sean Avery]

I don't know. Listen, I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened, Stevie. Fuck, man.

[Keith Yandle]

I don't know.

[Sean Avery]

I don't like Larkin.

[Ryan Whitney]

Now.

[Sean Avery]

Did you see the clip?

[Keith Yandle]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Sean Avery]

You guys haven't seen the clip? He's got his shirt off. Cole Caulfield's with him. They're shit. Based at the game.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, the World cup.

[Sean Avery]

Right, The World Cup.

[Biz Nasty]

Maybe I shouldn't have asked you about this.

[Sean Avery]

You guys haven't seen the clip?

[Keith Yandle]

No.

[Yan Stastny]

All right. What was the ending,

[Ryan Whitney]

Larkin?

[Sean Avery]

Somebody should tell Lin that, you know, September's like seven weeks away. I don't know. Whatever. I'm not gonna.

[Biz Nasty]

Do you still think that? That Carolina has no depth?

[Sean Avery]

First of all, I didn't say that.

[Keith Yandle]

Okay, we're gonna have to see a clip now. We're gonna have to see a clip.

[Biz Nasty]

I thought you said that they. You don't. You think their depth sucks or they don't have enough depth?

[Sean Avery]

Did I say that about Montreal?

[Biz Nasty]

No. No. Let me go with this one then. Are you still trading Trevor Zegras or taking Trevor Zegras over Brady Tkachuk?

[Sean Avery]

Oh, fuck, yeah. What are you talking about? I thought you were going to ask me something hard hitting like.

[Biz Nasty]

All right, okay.

[Sean Avery]

That's all I want to know. But I'll tell you what I would not do. I would not pay the kid in Anaheim 18 million a year. And I and Connor Bedard for 15 million.

[Keith Yandle]

Now that's guys. Yeah, but the money's just. They're making a lot of money. The league's making a lot of money.

[Sean Avery]

You can't win when you pay guys that type of money. Conor Bedard, 15 million. Guys, come on.

[Biz Nasty]

You're being too negative now, Sean.

[Sean Avery]

Like, oh, well, you got me talking about Aki. You said I was, like, so level headed and beautiful.

[Keith Yandle]

10 minutes different was his voice. His voice talking hockey. Yeah, that was. But I. I can't believe how much your tone just. He's an actor moved from the act.

[Biz Nasty]

I mean, you spend so much time freezing your nuts off in a Trojan horse and you just go squirrely.

[Keith Yandle]

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[Ryan Whitney]

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[Biz Nasty]

That's a great question. I love that question.

[Sean Avery]

I'll tell you something that's very interesting. I didn't really understand what being a great teammate was until I made this movie.

[Keith Yandle]

Do you regret not doing it when you played?

[Sean Avery]

Oh, yeah, of course. Of course. Definitely. But I don't know, man. Life is wild. Like, I just. It feels like. Because I remember a certain point during the movie and I was like, oh, this is what, like, a team is about. You know what I mean? Like, I. I wanted everyone around me to succeed and, like, just have big days. Put big days up on the board. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe that was Damon subconsciously, like, just watching this guy lead men into battle, sort of really actually doing it, like. Yeah. I was never a collaborator until. Until I. I did this movie. I didn't understand what it meant.

[Biz Nasty]

Couple clicks of that.

[Yan Stastny]

Phenomenal question. Ra.

[Keith Yandle]

Phenomenal answer.

[Yan Stastny]

Rear you.

[Biz Nasty]

That's why we bring them on, baby.

[Keith Yandle]

This has been great, dude. We appreciate it very much. I can't wait to see it. I'm going in imax. I'm just gonna have to wait, figure out a way to get a ticket. So congratulations.

[Biz Nasty]

We appreciate you stopping by. Congrats on everything, man. And very cool to hear about that experience, man. Thank you.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, congratulations.

[Ryan Whitney]

Take care.

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[Ryan Whitney]

We gotta bring on on G. We gotta hear about Nashville. Oh, bachelor party action. What's up?

[Biz Nasty]

Big weddings off?

[Abes]

Yeah, yeah. Long weekend. Very tough body turn.

[Biz Nasty]

Right now he's at his parents.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's like.

[Biz Nasty]

I can't really say too much, but you know, we golfed and. Well, here I am.

[Abes]

Unreal weekend though with the boys, pinkies up all weekend. Couple all nighters with some of my best buddies. It was. I couldn't have asked for a better trip. And you know, we stayed at Old Hickory lake, which is 25 minutes outside Nashville, which was awesome. It was right next to Hermitage golf course, which we played 36 holes at 18. The Generals retreat the first day, President's the next next day where they did a barstool classic. It was awesome. Figured out the slice boys. Got myself a tailor made mini driver. I got the mini driver, so I figured the slice out. So had a great week. Actually saw Andrew peak at the course. Former Bruins defenseman, Utah, plays for Utah now. Was doing his bachelor party down there as well. But it was awesome. I mean we hit Broadway every night. Basically just ended up at barstool Nashville. You guys have been there. You know what it's like in there. What a spot. We actually had a table next to Diego Pavio one night. I don't know if you guys remember that guy that's a quarterback.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, Vanderbilt.

[Abes]

Yeah, he was the Vanderbilt quarterback. I mean that guy, that guy just like runs Nashville. That guy.

[Keith Yandle]

So did he, did he sign with someone?

[Abes]

I thought he signed to like the Ravens practice squad or something, but he's

[Keith Yandle]

just ripping it up.

[Biz Nasty]

He's just going full Johnny. Full Johnny Manziel.

[Abes]

Oh yeah, because it's funny. So we, we see him out the night before, we see him out on Friday night. And then Saturday we got a boat, pontoon boat that we actually almost sunk because my friends are a bunch of fatties. But we go to this place called the two foot Cove. It's just like this big like cove where like 300, 400 boats just tie up at this two foot sandbar. Everyone just gets absolutely buckled and we're walking through this like two foot sandbar and who do we See, just buckled with a like a 1942 bottle. Playing volleyball at Two Foot Cove after seeing him out till 5am the night before was Diego Pavia. So it was pretty cool. It was pretty sick. But Two cold Two Foot Cove in Nashville, pretty sick. Old Hickory Lake. And it was also sick too. I can't suggest this enough. If you got a buddy who's a good cook. I have a buddy who went to culinary school. Automatic invite for a bachelor party. He's chefing the boys up food all weekend. It was unbelievable. Made his own salsa, avocado, crema dip. Like it was. It was incredible. I'm just.

[Biz Nasty]

You tell him pre trip. Hey, you're getting the invite partially because you have. There's expectation to make some dips and salsa.

[Keith Yandle]

I think he's got to do a bill.

[Abes]

I think he's got to know, oh, no, we didn't charge him for anything because he just paid for all the food all weekend. He was just chefing everything up. So I think when you're that guy, you kind of know and he wanted to do it, he was itching to cook for the boys.

[Biz Nasty]

And that's awesome.

[Abes]

Yeah, it's just one of those things where, you know, on the flight home, you're. I was very grateful, like, very, very thankful to spend some time with my friends and my family. Got to put. Did a foursome with. Got to play with my bro. I got to play a foursome with my four brothers, which we've actually never done before. Yeah, it was really cool and just a lot of fun, man. It's just so crazy, boys. Like, I get married in 54 days. I started this show. Like when we started this Show, I was 23 years old, a kid, just young, dumb, full of common, you know. Now I'm getting married in 54 year old.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's crazy. They're all dumb and empty. Exactly.

[Yan Stastny]

Did you have any one buddy who was acting crazier than anyone else?

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. Anybody have to get sent home?

[Abes]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

So anyone get arrested?

[Abes]

The Grinnell family. I'll say. The Grinnell family put on a show. Younger brother got slapped one night at the bar.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, nice.

[Abes]

Next night, young other. Younger brother had to be removed from the bar.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh, geez.

[Abes]

Yeah. So all in all, though, great performance from all the boys. I actually thought it would be a little worse. Big brawl one night at one of the bars we were at. Surprisingly, my friends were not involved in it.

[Ryan Whitney]

Good.

[Abes]

That was great to see.

[Biz Nasty]

Don't recommend that.

[Abes]

Yeah, yeah, I definitely don't recommend it. Nashville unreal place, shout out to barstool, Nashville taking care of us and yeah, just can't wait for the wedding now.

[Biz Nasty]

Awesome.

[Ryan Whitney]

Terrific job on the invitations. I'm sure she. You didn't have much input on those, so they come out nice.

[Pasha]

No.

[Abes]

Thank you guys. Thank you very.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, that's the next thing on the Chiclets travel menu right now. Everyone's pretty much going to stay put. And you said no more lacrosse tournaments after Baltimore.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, after this weekend. So we get off till what Internet invitational.

[Keith Yandle]

That's and invitational business.

[Biz Nasty]

Oh yeah, that's right. That's what we got last.

[Ryan Whitney]

I just got a couple. Couple last notes. Biz, before we do wrap up, we're gonna congratulate Jack Campbell. He hung up the blocker. Officially retired after nine NHL seasons. Dallas's first round pick back in the 2010 draft. I looked up his playoff stats. He had 14 stats in the playoffs. 7 and 8 with a 2.28 goals against and a.920 say percentage. Two shutouts, like numbers kind of jumped out at me. So congrats to Jack on a nice career and I enjoy retirement also.

[Biz Nasty]

How about those play with him. Awesome guy. You know, battled some difficult times guys. Him and Dusty Emu formed an awesome relationship when we were in Ontario and he clawed his way back to the NHL. I think he played a little bit at the time for Dallas, came over from there and. And yeah, I think what he went and played a little bit for the Kings and then he went over to Toronto and then signed that massive deal with Edmonton. So got everything he deserved. Great teammate and really it was really cool seeing a guy firsthand like just kind of reinvent his game and. And get back to where he should be based on expectations. So great teammate and love you, Jacko and congrats on a great rip and he's doing. Did you quickly mention that he's. I think he's going to be helping out like from a mental coach perspective, like that's the transition he's going to be making.

[Ryan Whitney]

I had mentioned that, but I'm glad you did.

[Biz Nasty]

I think he released a video today partly mentioning that where I think one of the people who helped him, you know, just reframe and reshape his. His way of thinking. And that helped obviously also with Dusty Emu and I'm sure other people who had a hand in getting him back to where he. He felt confident and able to perform at a very high level. I think now he's going to help guide and aid people in his. His second career. Which is cool to see. Right. Like, you know, Nate. Nate was very vocal about that and. And working with a sports psychologist. So sometimes it's as little as you could. You could be, you know, all the tools, no toolbox, as they say. And. And, you know, meeting one person could completely reach, reshape your way of thinking and lead to success.

[Ryan Whitney]

So especially in that position.

[Keith Yandle]

Is he doing that or on his own biz, he.

[Biz Nasty]

So Dusty Emu worked as a goaltender coach. I. It seems as if, though, the guy he tagged was like an independent source, like a buddy that he'd either met or came in contact with. And. And. And he kind of like, looked exterior, externally, where, you know, we talk about the goalie coaches and how much more they've been reintroduced now. Every team has one where that wasn't the case probably 15, 20 years ago. Maybe even when you guys started your NHL careers. Yeah. When you first got to Phoenix, was a Grant Fear there?

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah. Fears. He was there.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. So maybe at that time, it was pretty. It was still pretty new.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah. But that just could have been Wayne wanting to bring in.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

You know, furiously.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

I don't know if everyone did.

[Sean Avery]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

So it's time. Every team used to have. But it seems like every team has a goalie coach.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah. Oh, yes.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

Our goalie coaches still, like. Because I remember back in the day, I guess they would not always be there. They'd come in and out. Was that.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, they're there every day now. They're there every day.

[Keith Yandle]

But you remember that, Keith, or was that.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

Any of your teams?

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, I think Furzy used to go and play in, like, pro events, like golf events. Right.

[Ryan Whitney]

He was, like, trying to make a Stanley cup after. Did he play, like, 36 holes? Did that one won the cup that night or something like that?

[Keith Yandle]

Jordan did.

[Yan Stastny]

Fury.

[Biz Nasty]

No, I think that Fury. Fury was doing that, too. Some guys, they had to do it just to kind of keep their mind distracted from. I mean, you sit around. Sit. You know, you got on the hamster wheel about the game. You're. You're like, playing it in your head before you're even out there. So probably the way to. Probably the way to do it. Last couple, shout out to Shanks.

[Ryan Whitney]

Shout out to the Boston Red Sox. 14 in a row tonight. Back in the playoffs.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

What's up here, boys?

[Biz Nasty]

You guys were down in the dumps.

[Abes]

You got to give Whit some credit here. Whit, they're. They're down in the dumps. They're the worst team in baseball. Ten games or so into the season and you tweeted out. Don't freak out. It's still too early to give up on this team.

[Keith Yandle]

Game two, I think. Or game. How many games into the season was that? It was early.

[Abes]

It was early.

[Keith Yandle]

But I at some point was like, wow, this team's horrible. Truly horrible. Roman Anthony's supposed to be unbelievable this year. Hurt. Their ace, Garrett Crochet. He's hurt. They don't even know when these guys are going to be back.

[Abes]

Their Suarez comes back tomorrow, though. That's big.

[Keith Yandle]

They're pitching. Their pitching was good all year. They just could get no offense now. They just won their 14th straight game. It's.

[Yan Stastny]

It's insane.

[Keith Yandle]

Incredible. The. The. I just put on Moneyball 10 days ago because I was like, oh, it was. I think it popped up on my Netflix like whatever. The the for you page and forgot how good it was. And then watching the streak and now this is just happening right now. It's awesome.

[Ryan Whitney]

Love the show. To the Boston tap water earlier with too Best in the country. Man. I love that shit.

[Yan Stastny]

Nickels.

[Keith Yandle]

Well, I was. It was in situate.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. I think it's all the same. Reservoir. Classic recommendation. In honor of Chris Nolan. If you haven't seen Memento, it's on Netflix. One of his earlier movies. Awesome flick. You got to really pay attention to. It jumps around quite a bit. But if you've never seen Memento, check it out.

[Keith Yandle]

I like it. The most confusing movie of all time, though.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah. It's black and white and it goes like a. Like a time lapse. Right. Of, like, moving forward.

[Keith Yandle]

It's black and white.

[Biz Nasty]

I think there are aspects of it that are black and white. I saw a clip of him describing it today on like, a board of where like.

[Yan Stastny]

So you haven't seen it?

[Biz Nasty]

No, I literally just saw a clip today of him mentioning that. And the reason that I saw it was it was talking about how he was not accepted to film school.

[Ryan Whitney]

School.

[Biz Nasty]

He was rejected. So he would film movies like on the weekends with his friends. And that's how he got his. His start. And then he wrote and I think him and his brother, who write all their scripts together, he just kind of did his own thing. Like, he didn't wait to, like, get high. He just. And that was momento. And that was his OG break. And then he talks about describing how it was made, where it's in black and white in some aspects, where the. That moves in a timeline, moving forward. And then the color aspect, it moves from like. Like Back to front and like you said, obviously a very confusing movies, but made lots of headways. Right? All right.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, absolutely. He was nominated for an Oscar for writing as well. So that. You know that did you. A little close.

[Yan Stastny]

Ever one.

[Ryan Whitney]

I. I think.

[Biz Nasty]

I believe that was his big break. I don't know if I. I thought

[Ryan Whitney]

he had one before that. Like. Like a lesser known flick. The. That wasn't one of his big movies, but I think that was right before Momento. I forget the name of it. Yeah, Nothing. Nothing.

[Biz Nasty]

Yeah, famous. Yeah. Momento was the big, big break he got.

[Ryan Whitney]

Prestige is good too. You know what's black and white and red all over

[Yan Stastny]

the newspaper?

[Ryan Whitney]

Keith, Keith. Keith. Got it. Newspaper. Could have stumped.

[Biz Nasty]

Okay, I get it. I get it.

[Ryan Whitney]

All right, boys. Great fun time. Loved having Avery on the talk to talk Talk movies. That was fun stuff there. Good stuff.

[Yan Stastny]

Appreciate to see that.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, you guys are gonna dig. I can't wait to hear what you think about it.

[Keith Yandle]

Fish says following was Nolan's first feature film. Never heard of that. Okay, you've seen it already.

[Biz Nasty]

Was Memento. What is second?

[Keith Yandle]

Either way. Either way. That was the one that made him. Made him take off.

[Biz Nasty]

So. Have you seen that one?

[Keith Yandle]

Yes.

[Yan Stastny]

That's why I would have thought it was crazy if that was your first movie because that's a pretty big movie, right?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, I mean, it was pretty significant.

[Yan Stastny]

These guys are insane.

[Ryan Whitney]

Definitely put him on the map. But you look at his run too, like Memento, Insomnia, Batman Begins, the Prestige, the Dark Knight, Inception, the Dark Knight Rises, Interstellar, all it all in a row. It's unreal. The Prestige. Another great one if you haven't seen that too. So.

[Keith Yandle]

Oh, is that the movie 2 Jackman?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, the dual Magicians. Oh, yeah.

[Biz Nasty]

Dunkirk.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Keith Yandle]

Awesome stuff, Dunkirk. Wow. Yeah. That guy just Machine.

[Biz Nasty]

He's ripping. He's ripping. I think he said he's going to take a little time off, but we know what that means, right? Back in the saddle pretty soon with another sick script.

[Ryan Whitney]

Absolutely, buddy.

[Biz Nasty]

All right, boys, great.

[Keith Yandle]

Great catching up. Ra. Great seeing you.

[Ryan Whitney]

Ditto.

[Keith Yandle]

We will be back next week, thanks to Abes. That was awesome and love you all.

[Yan Stastny]

It won't happen, won't happen, won't happen again

[Keith Yandle]

it won't happen, won't happen, won't happen again A bad habit worth breaking but it's taking time I don't know. Don't let it gonna happen it's gonna happen that.