Spittin' Chiclets Episode 663: Featuring Patrice Bergeron

Summary

Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 663: Featuring Patrice Bergeron

Date: August 4, 2026
Hosts: Ryan Whitney, Paul Bissonnette ("Biz"), Rear Admiral ("RA"), Producer Mike Grinnell, Keith, Yan
Guest: Patrice Bergeron

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Episode Theme & Purpose

This episode is a wide-ranging, in-depth hockey and pop culture conversation capped by a lengthy and insightful interview with Boston Bruins legend Patrice Bergeron. The Chiclets crew digs into NHL headlines, player contracts, wild vacation stories, movie mishaps, and legendary hockey memories, all before and during the warm, irreverent, and often hilarious chat with Bergeron. The focus is on Bergeron’s hockey journey, leadership lessons, career milestones, locker room stories, and his life after retirement.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Episode Kickoff & Announcements

[02:16 – 04:44]

• The crew celebrates the show's 663rd episode.
• Patrice Bergeron is announced as the featured guest.
• Chiclets Cup Tournament details: taking place in Boston, with events Wed-Sat, Harpoon Brewery the main venue ([03:10]).
• Biz jokes about this being the "last dance" for Selects—“You say that every year, you motherfucker.” – Yan [04:44].

2. Biz’s Vacation Fiasco

[05:15 – 09:40]

• Biz recounts a family vacation in Coombs, BC: his mom trips over an unmarked speed bump, ends up in the ICU for stitches—“Buddy, Buddy, the minute I must have said bye to them, …Mom fell down, and she's gotta get stitches.” [07:23]
• His mom (“Yoli”) remains in good spirits—“She was a trooper. She was cracking jokes, chirping herself…” [08:02]

3. Movie Theater Nightmare & Golf with Celebrini

[11:11 – 21:41]

• Whitney details an epic movie-theater fail: traffic jams, ticketing confusion, and missing part of the film due to Monster Jam at Foxborough—“I probably should have mentioned this. …I'm holding four things, two in each hand.” [14:55]
• Golf Story: Whitney and Foles play vs. Macklin Celebrini and Will Smith. Celebrini comes through in the clutch, draining a key putt—“He cans it. Of course he canned it. At this point, the groups behind us were watching.” [19:50]
• Celebrini signs a massive 5-year, $18.8M AAV deal with the Sharks.

4. Celebrini's Contract—Implications & Sharks Moves

[21:41 – 26:44]

• Panel debates the impact of Celebrini's contract on the Sharks and other player deals (Truba, Darnell, veteran D coming in).
• “He broke the all-time record for most points in a season last year in his second year in the NHL. …He’s Sidney Crosby 2.0.” – Biz [23:16]
• San Jose’s draft class and the prospect pipeline discussed.

5. Contract Strategies, Short-Term Deals, and Cap Concerns

[29:00 – 34:49]

• Should superstars take shorter deals? How are new contracts shaping the league?
• “You always say, …you would just sign like four-year deals.” – Yan to Biz [29:53]
• Minnesota, Hughes brothers, cap distribution, team-building explored.

6. Interview: Patrice Bergeron Joins Chiclets

[40:39 – 134:54]

Bergeron's Retirement & Life Now

[43:12 – 44:20]

• Being the family Uber driver while his wife is back in school.
• “I'm the stay at home dad and like the Uber driver… But it's a lot of fun. …You miss the competition, the intensity… The camaraderie is… the one thing that you'll always miss.” – Bergeron [43:12]

Early Career & Hometown Roots

[46:10 – 48:31]

• Born outside Quebec City; grew up as a Nordiques/Avalanche fan.
• “I was born there. …I grew up playing minor hockey… until I moved to juniors.” – Bergeron [46:30]
• Outdoor rinks, family influence, and youth hockey routines.

French Canadiens & Developmental Challenges

[51:55 – 54:10]

• Why aren’t more French Canadian stars/goalies coming up?
• “They're actually doing like a tour right now, …What can we improve?” – Bergeron [53:24]

NHL Draft, Breaking Through as an Underdog

[55:01 – 56:51]

• 2003 NHL Draft: “Did you have any idea you'd make the team?” – Whitney [55:25]
• “No, not that year… When I got to training camp, [it] was more like, let's leave an impression.” – Bergeron [55:28]

Early Bruins Years, Adapting to NHL Life

[57:55 – 62:03]

• Family flew in for his first NHL game: scored in OT.
• Lived with veteran Marty Lapointe; struggled with English.
• “I could barely speak commercial.” [60:19] (lighthearted)

AHL Lockout Season & World Juniors

[66:50 – 73:23]

• Played in Providence during the 2004–05 NHL lockout.
• Dominant run with legendary 2005 Team Canada WJC team: “That team was incredible… so much fun…” [71:10]

Leadership & Team Culture Evolution

[75:03 – 81:44]

• Bergeron’s transformation into a leadership voice.
• Chara’s “animal intensity” and how he set the Bruins' culture—“You just can’t turn it off. He [Chara] plays as hard in practice.” [81:45]

Playoff Heartbreak & ‘11 Cup Triumph

[94:00 – 111:15]

• The devastating Philly collapse (2010), followed by Cup run (2011).
• “I remember sitting with Rex, Mark Recchi. …He grabs a glass of red wine, and he's, like, so relaxed.” [104:36]
• Horton’s OT winners, Tim Thomas “Battlefly” style, poking the bear.
• Off-ice antics: “I guess Marshy told me that he's like, …I was kicked out of Boston party anymore.” [111:01]

Career Pain, Adversity, and Rebounds

[112:05 – 115:20]

• Playing through broken ribs, punctured lung in the 2013 Final.
• “It was collapsed at, like…” (lungs), “I broke my ribs in game two, kept playing… and eventually punctured my lung.” [112:20]
• Losing the 2019 Final: “The losses, they hurt… It’s a sensitive subject.” [122:49]

Bergeron’s Leadership Philosophy

[116:43 – 119:53]

• “I never really set like goals for myself… It was always about the team. I always want to improve.” [116:43]
• Importance of “details,” selling a team-first message to youth—“If you win, no matter what your role is, you're buying yourself like another four or five years of your career.” [118:52]

Locker Room Stories & Off-Ice Fun

[127:44 – 129:44]

• Bergeron making prank videos on teammates for rookie parties.
• “We'd have, as we all know, …the rookies try to make him… have him make a skit… I was with Marshy at dinner, I was like, what if we do something?” [128:25]

Legacy & Message to Boston

[129:57 – 130:57]

• “I call Boston home, and… the people have been awesome for all my time here.” [129:57]
• Impact on fans, lessons for young players (faceoffs mastery, detail-oriented play).

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7. Faceoff Adversaries, Final Reflections

[131:35 – 133:30]

• Who gave Bergeron fits at the dot? “Plekanec… Sid was… Sid was…” [131:42]
• Cheating on faceoffs: “I can’t really talk about that because I feel like I was cheating as well.” [131:55] (laughter)
• Biz asks about Marshy’s trade: “He was more shocked that he saw a six-year deal come over the…” [133:20]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Celebrini’s new deal:
  “He’s Sidney Crosby 2.0… He does his own dirty work… He’s a unicorn, boys.” – Biz [23:16–23:43]

• On Zdeno Chara’s arrival in Boston:
  “He just can’t turn it off… leading by example every day.” – Bergeron [82:29]

• On Brad Marchand, the teammate:
  “He was just like, like a dog on a bone at every play. He wouldn’t give up.” – Bergeron [87:21]

• On 2011 Cup Run:
  “We had that in our… that we’d done it before… just get the job at home, stay in the moment.” – Bergeron [103:09]

• On playing through injury, 2013:
  “I broke my ribs… then I kept playing… eventually punctured my lung.” [112:20]

• On what he focused on as a leader:
  “It’s always been a game of details. If my details were good, the rest was taking care of itself.” [117:27]

• On Boston legacy:
  “There’s a reason why I’m still here and living here with my family. You know, my kids were born here, and I call Boston home... It’s been, you know, welcoming me with open arms…” [129:57]

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Other Notable Segments

• [139:45+] Rear Admiral’s "RA’s World": Movie theater etiquette, more movie reviews, and commentary on Vancouver’s mayor and WNBA social media mishaps.
• Hockey News Ticker: Player signings, future rumors, and summer silly season.
• Humor Throughout: Running gags about old teammates, movie theater disasters, nutrition (Biz’s apple strudel obsession), and the weekly digressions into life off the ice.

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Timestamps for Key Interview Segments

• Bergeron Joins: 40:39
• Retirement Reflections: 43:12
• First NHL Game, Early Years: 57:48
• World Juniors Story: 70:55
• On Chara and Bruins Culture: 81:45
• 2011 Cup Run: 94:00
• Playoff Injuries/Losses: 112:05
• Leadership Philosophy: 116:43
• Locker Room/Rookie Party stories: 128:25
• Boston Legacy: 129:57
• Faceoff Adversaries: 131:35

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Overall Tone & Style

As always, the Chiclets crew mixes brash, unfiltered humor, camaraderie, and open nostalgia. Bergeron is humble, honest, and warm—reflective yet frequently playful. The episode is rich in hockey insight and big on storytelling, making it a must-hear for hockey fans and Bruins faithful alike.

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For New Listeners

Even if you’ve never listened before, this episode provides:

• Insight into NHL life and locker rooms from a future Hall-of-Famer.
• Hilarious and relatable off-ice stories.
• Candid, no-BS panel takes on hockey’s direction and culture.
• Boston hockey nostalgia and leadership lessons applicable far outside the rink.

Transcript

[Ra]

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[Whitney]

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[Patrice Bergeron]

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[Ra]

Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is Barstool Sports.

[Biz]

I brought it towards the coyotes and I asked him if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chickens podcast full time.

[Whitney]

Ryan Whitney's got a pink Whitney out there now. The song man is a full time member. My religious galaxy got an assist from Chris.

[Keith]

Whoa. We're buzzing right now.

[Whitney]

What is up folks? Welcome back to spitting Chiclets episode 663. We're getting up there. Patrice Bergeron joined us back. Heard of him in Boston for the cup finals. This is a great interview. I think everyone's going to enjoy it.

[Biz]

Boston.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. The bees.

[Whitney]

The bees. He's a big part of their. Their history, their biz. So Patrice Bergeron's coming on Pink Whitney. You got to shut out the pinkies up. Pinkies up from Macklin Celebrini. We're going to get into that monster deal and pinkies up for what he did to me on the golf course. Get into that in a second. But either way, it's Pinky's up. So I'm not going to get upset and rattled when I'm talking. Pink Whitney. Shout out everyone out there who's buying some.

[Biz]

Were you helping him negotiate?

[Whitney]

Yeah, I was a big part of it. Yeah. It wasn't even his agent. It was me. I didn't tell you that. Yeah. I don't know, though. I don't. I don't. He didn't show me much. What's the word? He didn't show much gratitude towards me, though, on the course, I'll say that. But I do have one big announcement here before. Before we get going. Chiclet's cup is. Is locked and loaded. Now we're back in Boston. The registration goes on sale. For anyone who wants to be a part of this Wednesday at noon Eastern, go to BarstoolSports.com Heartbroom Brewery again. Place was phenomenal the last time we went. Perfect setup. So we're going to do that again Wednesday, August 5, 12 Eastern. That's noon Eastern. Barstoolsports.com we got no bull. Reese's Pink Whitney coming in. Harpoon Brewery. Thursday will be the welcome party and the registration. Friday is the event. Day one Pink Whitney party. Pinkies up that night. Saturday, the day two of the event. Closing ceremonies, 5pm at Hartroom Brewery, where we'll be on the mic biz. We try to. We try to give our flowers to all the winning teams. Unfortunately, every year you're coming off. You're coming off of a loss. And then, like, sitting up there like wounded, bleeding, like, oh, we lost again. Here's your trophy.

[Biz]

Ra's cabs or RA Shins.

[Whitney]

That was amazing. RA came back last year. He fell over the barrier. We'll have to ask him about that. I don't know if we've ever brought that up to him. And then was up there just leaking blood all over the stage. I was like, Whoa, welcome back, R.A. here we go. But I don't know what you guys are up to. We're getting ready. Got a big week here.

[Biz]

The final announcement, I think. I think it's going to be the big deal. Selects last dance. It's going to be our last dance.

[Whitney]

Win or lose, you're done.

[Biz]

I think it's going to be the last dance.

[Yan]

You say that every year, you motherfucker.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, every year you say Mike Keane.

[Yan]

Every year you fucking say this.

[Biz]

We Just interviewed Mike Keane. Yan's is making a joke. This guy played 1100 games in the NHL and then played 5 years in the AHL to end his career.

[Whitney]

And wasn't floating around the outside either. He was like grinding in your face in front of the net. Those five years in the Myers. That was a great interview. That'll be coming out in a couple weeks. Biz, how is vacation started with the parents?

[Biz]

Yeah, yeah, it started yesterday, the first full day. And it was a tough one, boys.

[Keith]

Oh, no.

[Biz]

So on. If you've watched. If you watch the BC peaking season, we go to a place called We Peeking. We Peeking. The next one's coming out, I think early September. That's going to be the Lake Havasu one. But we went to this place called Coombs where they have this like, you know, outdoor. They got the, the, like all the beautiful fruits and vegetables are locally grown. You can go into the. One of the supermarkets. It's got like every kind of cheese and all these unreal homemade pepperoni sticks, beef jerky pastries. Like, like this apple strudel. I can even show you. Like, look at this apple strudel.

[Whitney]

Apple strudels are phenomenal.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Like, look at that.

[Whitney]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Keith]

Seen better. I've seen better.

[Whitney]

So have I. Not even trying to be a dick, you can't see much of the apple. Like there's too much crust in the top of that thing.

[Biz]

Oh, you guys are.

[Whitney]

This vacation's doomed.

[Keith]

Yeah, that looks store bought. But go ahead.

[Biz]

That's what was bought. But it was definitely. Okay. So we go in there, we had a great, a great lunch. They went on a little bit of a tour beforehand. I had already been on this tour with Donnie to see all these old trees, trees that go up to about 800 years old. So they actually had a tour guide. So he was driving them around before that. So I met them at Coombs. Okay, Because I got my sister, her kids, my dad, so there's six of them. So we finish off at this place. It's got the, the goats on the roof. Remember when I said. Yeah, yeah, that place. So I, I'm parked probably 15 minutes down the road. 15 minute walk because it's packed, you know, it's like the, the high season here. So I got to walk that way. So I give him a kiss. I say, hey, I'll see you at the hotel. Okay. All right, great, you know, great. Great afternoon. So I walk towards my car. I stop at this little antique shop just to take a few peeks. Inside. And then as I get to my car, I get a text from my sister, and she goes, well, we're on our way to the.

[Whitney]

The.

[Biz]

The. Like, whatever. The icu.

[Whitney]

What we're going.

[Biz]

Mom fell down, and she's got to get stitches. So. Buddy. Buddy. The minute I must have said bye to them, they're walking up to go meet where their ride was picking them up. And they got these speed bumps, but the speed bumps aren't colored yellow. They're the same color gravel as the road.

[Whitney]

You got to. You got to make sure people can see that that's a speed.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Bu.

[Biz]

You got to make sure you could see.

[Keith]

This could be a nice little law.

[Whitney]

There's a law in the United States.

[Keith]

She slipped on a strudel.

[Biz]

So she toe picks on the speed bump. Buddy goes down. Even the hands couldn't stop her.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Boom.

[Biz]

Right on the corner of her eye. We're off to the. To the ICU unit or whatever the you call eight zips in the corner right here. Eight zips for Yoli, Buddy. I'll tell you what, though. Not yet. Not yet. But she was a trooper. She was cracking jokes, chirping herself, even when we were signing in with the. With the nurse and stuff like that. So a couple clicks for Yoli, first day of vacation.

[Whitney]

Kidding me.

[Keith]

Breaking in the new feet.

[Biz]

Yeah,

[Whitney]

that's.

[Biz]

That's a Hitchcock going, guys firing pucks at her on the ice. When she got out there, Buddy just ate in front of everybody. There's probably a hundred people there just, like, having a chuckle at Yoli's expense.

[Whitney]

No, no, no. You see somebody fall like that, you're. You got to be a real piece of scum to be laughing at that. There has to go, and, you know. You know, Canada, they're all running to help her. They're all friendly. Yeah, I thought you were. Say, one of the goats from the roof fell off and hit her. That's tough.

[Keith]

That would have been better. Yeah.

[Biz]

Then we would really would have got some money out of this, maybe.

[Whitney]

Like, I could have got security footage of that. I could have sold an ad on that video.

[Keith]

Did you. Did you have to drive her? Did you have to drive back up and pick them up to take them to the hospital?

[Biz]

No. By the time I got the text, when I was. By the way, their phone service was absolutely brutal at this place, so I got the text, so she just sent me where they went, and I drove down the road. It was like, 10 minutes away, and they were already there kind of checking in, so spent you know, two, two and a half hours there waiting for her to get stitched up or whatever it was, and. And then on. On she went. But hey, man, Trooper, she was up today buzzing around, all good to go, so.

[Whitney]

Okay.

[Biz]

No, Conky's a tough customer, man.

[Whitney]

Yeah, that's where you get it from.

[Biz]

Yeah, you always a tough cut. You got Irish Traveler by the Goats at the At Coombs. So that was the start to our vacation. But after this, I'm going to mini putt and I'm. We're gonna. I'm gonna go play against my sister's kids and her husband.

[Whitney]

Show no mercy on these kids.

[Biz]

Zero mercy, buddy. I told them yesterday at lunch, I said, you know, I'm bringing my own putter, right? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna dust you guys. And they're like, oh, handy. What's the handicap? I'm like, you ain't getting nothing over there.

[Whitney]

If there's one thing you can do in the game of golf too, it's pot.

[Biz]

That's it.

[Whitney]

Pot. Everyone saw in the most recent bagger with the Bob does sports boys, the collared boys, taking them for a walk. You, you were reading the greens. We. We decide. You are our guy. Putting our guy. Thank you.

[Keith]

How. How old are her kids?

[Biz]

10? Yeah. 10 years old.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

That's old enough to like. Yeah.

[Keith]

Take them to the woodshed.

[Biz]

Oh, yeah. Well, they're. They're. They're twins, right. But one boy, one girl. So they're. They're probably going to be working together. They're always attached at the hip. This is last year was the first year. They didn't do their, like, their grade together. They split them the classes. So these two work very well together. Okay, I'll be, I'll be. I'll be ready to go. But that's it, boys. Just getting a little bit of R and R here on the island. And what about you guys? What do you got going?

[Whitney]

Yeah, I saw the odds.

[Keith]

Same, same.

[Whitney]

What'd you think?

[Keith]

Loved it. I was in. I was not had. Did not have the best setup. I was at the, you know. Have you been to the movie theater here in Nantucket?

[Whitney]

No, it's. Is it small?

[Keith]

No, it's a great movie theater, but then there's like a separate one that's just basically like a screen that comes down and then just regular chairs. And that's where we were at for the Odyssey.

[Whitney]

So they didn't get the big theater. The Odyssey wasn't in the big theater.

[Keith]

Not sure why they were playing Young Washington instead of the Odyssey in that one.

[Biz]

But don't even.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I thought the movie.

[Keith]

Exactly. I thought the movie was insane. I know we talked a little bit before about how much AIDS is actually in it. That was incredible.

[Biz]

Him or

[Whitney]

you see him 30 times or more in the movie.

[Ra]

He.

[Biz]

Is it weird, normal teeth or did they kind of darken them up? Because it'd be weird if a guy had such nice teeth at that.

[Ra]

He said.

[Keith]

Didn't he tell us that the producer told him he to never show his teeth? Didn't he say that to us?

[Whitney]

He wasn't showing his teeth that much. Because you're right, Biz, you don't notice the big Steve Harvey pearly whites, you know, in the middle of like trying to get home on, on the Odyssey. Now. My, my. I thought the movie was excellent. Loved it. I want to see it again because I didn't see it in imax. My theater experience though, it was one of the all time worst theater exper. No, not the, not the movie part, but going there and getting home. I couldn't find tickets. This movie, every time I looked there was no tickets. And then I looked and I see, oh, Foxborough movie theater in Patriot Place, which is right around Gillette Stadium where the Patriots play. They got restaurants, obviously, movie theater, all this. I'm like, oh, there's a bunch of tickets tonight. I'm like, this is perfect. So I bought the 7:30 tickets. Then I found out the babysitter could come at 5. So then I saw there was a 6:30 film. There's tons of tickets for that one too. I'm like, this is my lucky day. I'll go to the earlier one. The movie's three hours long. I won't get home at 11:15, 11:30, you know, I'll be home earlier. Well, we get in the car, leave. It's usually 25 minute ride. It says an hour and 15 minutes. I'm like, what the. I look it up. I didn't check. Gillette had Monster Jam for the Monster Trucks.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Oh no.

[Whitney]

So I'm like, oh no, I can't do this. Like sitting in that ride on Route 1 to get to when there's anything going on. Gillette, this is just horror.

[Biz]

It's a nightmare.

[Whitney]

It was horror, horror film stuff. I don't even go to Patriots games because of it. So then we turn around, I'm like, all right, forget it. We're looking at all these other theaters. Of course there's no tickets. There was tickets because there was a Monster Jam, by the way, though. So hold on. So then I'm like, well, what else are we going to do? Let's go. I got tickets to the 7 32. She's like, you had tickets to both? I'm like, yeah, well, first, whatever. I explained that turnout. Just sat in the traffic. Now at one point, I'm like, what are we doing? Like, it took an hour and 15 minutes. It was. We barely made the 7:30. We're sprinting. Sprinting in there, basically. And that's my problem with the theater. When I tell you sprinting into this theater is nearly impossible. What they've done is. Well, by the way, I get out of the car. I get out of the car and I hear the announcer over the loudspeaker in Gillette, like now racing so and so, so and so. Meg.

[Biz]

Grave digger.

[Keith]

Gravedigger.

[Whitney]

Yeah, Megalodon can't race. He's in the shop or something. Megalodon's not at the booze. I heard from the crowd, it was like, because Megalodon's one of the kids favorites. It's the monster, I think the shark looking one. So I'm like, oh, fuck, man, those kids are rattled in there. But we get into the theater and if you thought these kids were rattled after, no. Megalodon, I'm standing in line to get.

[Ra]

This is like.

[Whitney]

It's a newer theater. It was just redone, but it's. It's back to like going to the theater in the 80s. There's no, there's not. You know, this hero acts at all the theaters now, right? Like, you order food at your seat, stuff like that. And I don't know if you've been to a theater like that, but this is not one of those. You just go up there, they got popcorn, soda, whatever. I'm waiting for for a while because we're kind of late to the movie. I get out now. I go to the guide who gets your ticket, right? It's on my phone. I'm holding like 20 different things. I got. I got popcorn, I got candy.

[Biz]

I got.

[Whitney]

You know, I'm loaded up, long film. I'm like, dude, what theater is it in? Here's my ticket, right? Like, he's like, no, no, no, no. I can't tell you what theater it's in. You gotta. You gotta find out what theater it's in from the guy that just sold you all the popcorn. I said, no, no. I'm like, no. I'm like, dude. I just wait. I was going, no, no, no. I'm like, what are you talking about? And he's like, I know, it's crazy. And I was. I look back and I said, are they gonna let me in front? He's like, no, man, you gotta wait in the line. I buddy.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I was.

[Whitney]

I. I was like, where's the man?

[Biz]

The dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[Whitney]

And all of a sudden this guy's walking towards me with like a bowtie and real nice guy. I'm like, I can't wait in that line again, man. You got to tell me what theater this is. He's like, I'm like, just go look at the theater. Tell me what?

[Biz]

Who gives a fuck?

[Whitney]

That's. Have you ever experienced. I missed the very beginning of the movie. So I still have to go back. I couldn't believe that you had to get. And then why they don't tell you when you buy. I got large popcorn. Like you'd think the guy say, hey, I got to scan your ticket to see what theater you're in. So the whole ordeal. But. But then the movie starts and it was incredible. I mean, I'm telling you, I love this movie. I want to talk to Ra about it. I'm not going to give spoilers out. Avery definitely spoiled a part of it. Like, I was like, oh. But then. Not really, Keith. Because of what happened after. Either. Either way. Then I got. Why didn't you still traffic leaving. There was traffic leaving. I then sat in the same traffic leaving the Monster Jam. So I got buried on this night.

[Biz]

I get what you're going to ask Gans. You're going to say, why if you ask someone, hey, are you going to see Odyssey? And just say, where are you going? Where are you heading to?

[Whitney]

Because then they had to scan the ticket. They. They wouldn't scan the ticket till you knew it. I'm telling you, buddy, this was one. It was crazier than some of the. Some of the one eyed monsters in the Odyssey was just trying to get your ticket punched and be told what theater to go in. So kind of a ridiculous experience for the movies. But. But like I said, the movie was great. And then that was actually after that day I played with Celebrini, so maybe I was already on edge and this is all on me. And this isn't that crazy of a story. Kevin Hayes, he set up golf with me and him were going to play Will Smith and Celebrini. All right, awesome. Hazy had to back out last minute. I'm with Foles. I'm like, you want to go Play. He's like, get out of here in the. Yeah, Foles. Like, all right, we waxed these two up and down this golf course course for four hours. Just a complete kicking. We get to the 18th hole. Now, I've been told by my accountant to never mention financial figures on what we're playing for in golf. So I'm gonna take his advice. But we're playing for a good amount of money. They go double or nothing on 18. Okay, we win that now. I'm laughing now. Old Sandwich has a 19th hole, okay? It's got one little extra green. And when you walk off the 18th hole, there's a shot from 100 yards or 140 yards, kind of like a little gambling hole, a buy hole for say they double or nothing again, we win again.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I'm.

[Whitney]

I mean, I'm laughing. I'm like, oh, my God. I'm like, this Guy's new contract, 18.8 a year. I mean, what the hell is he gonna do? How's.

[Biz]

He's playing for free in two years?

[Whitney]

Yeah, for sure. So they want a double or nothing one more time because you can go up from a different angle and hit an 130 yard shot. So the same green, but a totally different, like, place where you're hitting down from they double or nothing again. And I hit it to about 15ft, a very good shot. And I'm humping air. I'm yelling, give the sharks my address. I'm like, this is false. This is unbelievable. Celebrini goes after me and hits it to about 12ft. And I was like, oh, no. I'm like, I gotta make this putt. Because, like, this kid seems like one of those guys, you know, and he was horrible. He's going to be good at golf. Like, he kind of just started playing. He's got a nice swing, but he. He must have shot 98. He was horrible, but he hit this shot. And I'm like, oh, no. And it's me and like, my. My past as an athlete. And if I don't make it, then it's him and who he is. Sure as shit. I miss and these guys read this putt for, I'm going to say 10 minutes. I have a video, false video, the entire thing. Will Smith's lining up the ball, then he's going back. Celebrity standing over. He's like, move your hands 2 inches to the right. The they're just adjusting like a video game. And what happens?

[Ra]

He can.

[Biz]

He nailed it.

[Whitney]

He cans it. Of course he canned it. Of course he can it. And at this point, the groups behind us were now coming up there and they're watching because I think two of the kids played with Will Smith at bc. They happened to be out there and it was like, I just knew it. I knew it. Walking down, I said, if I don't make this putt, and even if I do make it, he's, he's making it. You know, some guys have that, that it factor. So that was it. And then I couldn't get into the goddamn movie theater until I got my, the general manager to help me out, tell me what theory was. But overall, great Friday. A great what?

[Biz]

I was going to say what a great Friday for those two guys. And they probably headed into the weekend.

[Whitney]

They went right down to Chatham and then they were going to Nantucket the next day. And I saw them about to get abused. Did you see them in Nantucket?

[Biz]

On Nantucket?

[Keith]

First thing, Celebrini says to me, what? Tell you about my putt?

[Whitney]

Shut the.

[Keith]

I swear to God, I go, I think I heard about it two minutes after duty.

[Biz]

Oh yeah.

[Whitney]

He left out the, he left out

[Keith]

the fact that he shot a 98. But he was telling me all about

[Whitney]

that putt that he buried in my money. Fools. Was like, oh my God, I could do an addition on the house. I could do. And it was just, it was, it was a, it was a ballsy move. It was a big time putt by a big time player. And I guess that kind of leads us into when that contract news broke. I was like, wow. I was more amazed at just five years. I'm like, so this kid's going to be a UFA with a hundred million dollars in the bank when he's 25 years old? Yeah, 26 maybe. Maybe it'd be 25. I'm not exactly sure. Awesome for the Sharks, awesome for him. I don't know if it was a real quote or tweet I saw that said Mike Greer is like, I would have given him whatever he asked for.

[Biz]

20. I think, I think the full, the full 20%. He said.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Okay, so that wasn't fake.

[Biz]

He's 20.8 or something. That. Yeah, it was.

[Whitney]

And then.

[Keith]

And all of it well deserved.

[Whitney]

Well, yeah.

[Biz]

I mean, this guy's a unicorn, boys.

[Whitney]

I, I witnessed it. A unicorn.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

And he's telling me his younger brother, he's like, my younger brother is disgusting. I think he's 14. So I think there's another one of these things coming.

[Keith]

If he does come, they have to set it up. Where he gets the play. They play on the same team.

[Whitney]

Yeah. If he's this good, you're saying in four or five years. I know, but he'd have no, he'd have no control of where he gets drafted.

[Keith]

Four or five years, he'll. Five years. Celebrini will be a free agent and he can just go to whatever team drafts him.

[Whitney]

Biz. What did you think when you saw the number?

[Biz]

I think that I don't. I would say thank you. Leo Carlson offer sheet. Cause that kind of, I guess set, set sort of the, the, the around where he was going to get, but I don't really think it mattered. I think that San Jose is one of those markets where it's like, okay, we need to keep a guy like this. You know, there's other, obviously other markets where he could thrive from a, from a, like a marketing standpoint and marketing dollars. But he's had great success there. He broke the all time record for most points in a season last year in his second year in the NHL. And that's, I mean he's Sidney Crosby 2.0. He's the, he's the perfect player. He does his own dirty work. You see these clips of these shifts where he's out there just busting his ass for a minute straight, stripping guys, getting in on the forecheck, backtracking, and, and, and then he could get it done offensively and pretty much do whatever he wants with the puck. And, and to also do it with. Listen, like I'm, I, I'm not trying to take anything away from Sid, but in, in Sid's like second and third year, they, you know, they were bringing in some, some veterans to surround them with this last season. Their team was, was not very good. If you look at their team on paper, you'd be like, oh, it's a little bit underwhelming. And the fact that he did that with having all that pressure and also doing it in an Olympic year where he went to the Olympics and they pretty much rolled that line out there with him on it every other shift when they needed a goal. So you're talking about the best Canadian players in the world and he's the guy that you're looking to at that age. He's a freak, guys. And I hope the league gets about 10 to 15 more of them because it'll just raise the bar for everybody else and money well earned. But like you said, five years, that would kind of suck to have to fork over that much dole and only get the five Years. But he had him by the balls and he's got all the control and shout out to Pat Bresson and his team for knowing all that, but more importantly him for putting in the work and being the freak of nature that he is.

[Keith]

Yeah, I don't think there's. When I saw the number two, it was just like, yeah, whatever number it was going to be wouldn't have rattled me. Just because what he brings to your team, what guys will want to do to go play there with him. I forget who we were talking to, might have been talking to whoever, but he was saying that all the guys on the Olympic team were like, I want to play with Celebrini, I want to play with celebrity. So like he's already got that it factor at such a young age. And I mean Whit, you spent four or five hours with him, like he just seems like such a level headed kid where it's like it's not going to get to his head him signing this big deal. He's still going to be training his ass off, working hard every shift. So I, I think it's well earned, well deserved and you know, good for both sides, I would imagine. Obviously if you're a San Jose fan, you'd like to see him for eight years. But hey, listen, you build around him, you get five unreal years out of him and you know, and then maybe he does want to stay and they're building something and they're winning cups in

[Whitney]

the next few years and you, and you say like, ideally, yeah, you'd rather give, get him on more years if you're my career. But you're also like not pissing them off. You're not starting any sort of like, oh, like why, why won't they kind of give me this? And you're just like, hey, we, we love you, we want you to be here. If this is what you want and this is what it takes right now, here you go. And then there's no bad blood. You know, you've look at kind of like look at what we've seen with different teams and pissing guys off and kind of how it goes. So I, I, yeah, I'm excited. He is really like a very genuine person. You would never know it talking to him, friendly to everyone, just seems to kind of know he's got the world by the balls right now, but not be cocky about it at all. So, and, and a big time potter,

[Biz]

the Sharks puts a little pressure on the Sharks where it's like, you got your five years, let's get moving here, start making some moves. They did do some stuff in the off season. Now, now with knowing he's making 18.8, are you a little bit more like the money they threw at that Truba and now they got Darnell. Like, does that worry you a little bit.

[Keith]

I didn't even think they had to.

[Whitney]

They had to do like, they just needed to bring in some veteran defensemen. How many more years those guys have? Four each. I mean, they have a lot of prospects. He was telling me, like the. Their draft this summer. We talked about that right after the draft. All the guys they've drafted before Misa, like, he's pretty fired up about what it's looking like there and how quick they think they can get it going. And I was.

[Biz]

He talked to Stenberg.

[Whitney]

I didn't ask him that. That's a great question. I was more folk. Me and foes are just like, we're. We're just in our game. Like, I, I didn't even remember. He was just. He was just somebody I was competing against out there. But I wasn't thinking of man in the arena. Yeah, man in the arena type shit. You know what I'm saying?

[Biz]

Let's get the poem again.

[Whitney]

Calling graph sign too. Now I wonder what Smith gets. I didn't bring that up either.

[Biz]

Did you ask him about anything? Maybe he's doing different training wise. Did you ask him about his old man? Did you guys get into any type of like off season, the hockey talk?

[Whitney]

Not really. I was asking him. They were. Smith was just out in van and I was like, oh, how was that? They just said they were. They were up at 6, training, skating. Then they'd go for like a track workout, skate again. Five straight days. They said it was. They were legit grinding. And then they were doing a camp in Boston this past week. I think the guy, Adam Nichols, was running it for local pros around here. So it seems like these guys are all dialed in. It seems like they're on the ice constantly.

[Patrice Bergeron]

We've.

[Whitney]

We've had this discussion a lot. That's just, that's how a lot of guys are doing it now. And looking back, I've said this, instead of bagging myself on the bike or bagging myself on sprints, I think I would have just skated way more, had my cardio always be on the ice. Like, why mess around with other cardio if you can just do it on the ice constantly?

[Keith]

And then you didn't have as many guys around though.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I know, but to get an actual good skate.

[Whitney]

I know. But I think if it was you and I, we could have gone out there and bagged ourselves with like drills and different types of things where. All right. We don't have to do. I don't know, maybe that's. Dude, our guys.

[Keith]

I was doing it. I just didn't invite you.

[Whitney]

You're like, dude, I don't need.

[Biz]

Son of a bitch.

[Whitney]

I don't need that shit, man.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Thanks a lot.

[Biz]

Son of a bitch.

[Whitney]

I don't need that guy on the ice. The Sharks, they also signed Graph, who I like. He. He's looked good when I've seen. And it's only 4.25. Three year. Yeah. Three year extension. Three year contract. 4.25 a year. So played over 16 minutes a year. And he had, according to G's outline, extended looks on a line with Celebrini.

[Biz]

So do you think some of the guys like McKinnon and. And Dryle are regretting signing eight year deals?

[Whitney]

You can't really.

[Keith]

Oh, the eight years, like the money, the. Just because of how much money.

[Biz]

Now, now those guys are. Those, those guys are playing through their prime on, man. You got. You got him making what, $6.8 million more than dry Seidl?

[Whitney]

It's pretty wild.

[Biz]

14. Yeah, he made 14. McDavid's at 12 and a half, but he's making.

[Whitney]

When McKinnon signed, I don't think it.

[Biz]

12.6.

[Whitney]

Yeah, but we didn't know what the cap was going to turn into or any. Like, Leon was recent enough where. Yeah, he probably. I don't know though. Maybe he's just like, dude, eight years at 14.

[Keith]

Yeah. How do you say no to that?

[Whitney]

I'm good. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Unless it's Jason Robertson, he's like, no, thanks.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I don't think so.

[Whitney]

I'm all set there.

[Yan]

Yeah.

[Keith]

It's interest because Biz, you're the one who always says. I mean, you were saying it even before all these short contracts. Like if you were a superstar, you would just sign like four year deals.

[Biz]

I think it was Judd who was saying that.

[Keith]

Okay.

[Biz]

And that's where I was getting it. Yeah.

[Keith]

You weren't digging.

[Biz]

No, no digging here. Just.

[Whitney]

I saw a video of Matthews ripping pucks. I think he was in Switzerland.

[Biz]

Switzerland with Joe Thornton.

[Whitney]

He had on some like, designer sweatpants. I think he's just snapping pucks on some goalie. Unless those weren't designer. And I have no clue what I'm talking about. But they didn't look like normal Sweatpants you throw on to go out.

[Biz]

He's always got the expensive stuff going, like bell bottoms. Yeah, I don't. I can't keep up with all these brands anymore. Like what's cool, what the kids are wearing. But maybe they got Chromehurst sweatpants now. Maybe a couple two, three GS just for some, for some fresh cotton. But I don't got much else, boys. I mean, that, that's pretty much the only news. We finally reached the time of summer where things are calming down and it's almost time for training camp.

[Whitney]

Yeah. Novak signed in Pittsburgh. 4.65 million per season. Got that 42 points at 82 games last year. Oh, Billy G. Was apparently in Michigan.

[Biz]

Took the bird.

[Whitney]

He took the bird.

[Biz]

Took the bird.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

I would love. How much would you love to be

[Patrice Bergeron]

a fly in the wall?

[Whitney]

Billy G. And Quinn Hughes maybe having a couple.

[Biz]

Quinn missed the meeting. He was at a Morgan Wallen concert.

[Keith]

That's true.

[Biz]

Yeah. He did another walkout. So don't think that's going to bode well for Minnesota Wild fans moving forward. He's probably on the move, but. Yeah, I mean, what do you tell them? You tell him, hey, we're fucking blank check. Just like Caprisov.

[Whitney]

I, I think you tell them, hey, how many years will you stay here and what do you want? Yeah, and if it's true that they're like the rumors, you hear of him just signing a deal that will make him and Jack a UFA at the same time, I think that would be a three year deal.

[Keith]

All right.

[Whitney]

And yeah, just say, hey, we'll give you 18 times three.

[Biz]

What you would, you would have. Well, I'm saying is like, okay, so now you got, you got that two guys making 17 and 18 million. Like how it goes back to what Merle said.

[Whitney]

That good. I mean, he's not going to take less than Caprisov. He's better than him. And you want him there and you need him there. And if he'll do three years. Okay, look what they traded for him. He's kind of have. He kind of has him like, hey, give me this. I guess the G, the owner has decided he's not going to say blank check. That one he might regret a little, but maybe not. Maybe he's like, I don't care.

[Biz]

Let's go over. I'd be interested to see what if, like from the contending standpoint. Cause if he resigns there. I think that you would. And even for next year, going into next year, would you consider Minnesota still In the contender category.

[Whitney]

Yeah. Their forward lineup though, you've seen like tweets of like I don't know is this, is this a Stanley cup champion forward group? But I still would consider them contenders, no doubt.

[Biz]

So in two, let's say, let's say Quinn like stays put and he does sign for 18 million. Taking the five top paid players. What exactly. What, like what they would make of the cap like and when it kicks in, I mean you got boldy obviously as one of those guys, right?

[Whitney]

You have those deal. He's a nice deal.

[Biz]

Like how, how many teams who have won a cup have their top five guys making over 50% of the team's cap? Is a question I have for you guys.

[Whitney]

Okay. Yeah. That's one that I couldn't even begin. I got a better chance of getting into that movie theater without a ticket then I could answer that question.

[Biz]

But because it goes back to the same thing that happened with the core four in Toronto. It's just like the top five guys are all making too much money and they, they kind of signed at the like the, it was a perfect storm, right. Because Covid hit and then it was all of a sudden a flat cap. Clearly they're aware of where it's going to be going in the next five years. But these guys, these guys are signing their new deals projected on where it's going. So Caprisop 17, you got, you got Quinn at 18, let's say then you got boldy at what the good news is you got bold.

[Whitney]

He's 7 money too.

[Yan]

He's making 8, 8, 5.

[Whitney]

You also have news this year at 7.85. So like correct, you're getting that this

[Keith]

year with just be a two year extension.

[Whitney]

Well, I, I actually don't know when Jack's ends. I think for them.

[Biz]

I think Jack had five years left on his deal.

[Whitney]

I would think it'd be four because I thought people said if he signed a three year extension that they would match up which would be four more seasons. I don't know. Posh is probably slamming his computer right now.

[Yan]

Jack Hughes contract ends in 2930 at the end of the 30 season.

[Whitney]

So this is, let's do some crazy math. 26, 27, 28, 28, 29, 29, 30. Okay.

[Keith]

Now that takes Quinn to what age? How old is quinn right now? 26.

[Biz]

Let me grab my apple strudel.

[Whitney]

We're asking.

[Biz]

Well, you guys figure this out, this thing?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Keith]

So he's 26.

[Whitney]

Power food to win a putt putt challenge. Against his 10 year old twin niece and nephew.

[Biz]

Yeah, well, this one's theirs. I'm stealing it just to get under their skin.

[Whitney]

Here comes Pasha. They don't have a 1C and they're forwards. Besides, Kirill and Boldi are paper thin. Good luck being Colorado and Dallas back to back every year with that.

[Keith]

While he didn't even put Edmonton in there for you.

[Whitney]

Well, he's talking division, he's talking central division there and he's just kind of waiting for the day to get the news that Quinn is on the New Jersey Devils. That would be the worst day for me doing this.

[Keith]

Never gonna happen. That's never gonna happen.

[Whitney]

If there was news that he was traded or signed with the New Jersey Devils, I don't know if I could handle that guy.

[Biz]

The only person left in the group chat would be Pasha.

[Whitney]

It's just everybody write things to himself. He's sending like box scores to himself.

[Yan]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

All right, let's with that, let's answer with this.

[Biz]

Does Quinn Hughes resign in Minnesota?

[Whitney]

Yes.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Do you think he signs a short term extension?

[Keith]

I think what Whit said, where it lines up exactly with Jack. So would that be a three year extension?

[Whitney]

Extension?

[Keith]

Yeah, I think, I think he does.

[Whitney]

And I also feel like, you know, Billy G's, he's got the bird out to see him. It would make sense to kind of ideally have that done before the season starts.

[Keith]

Yeah, for sure.

[Whitney]

Because as the season starts, the team somehow maybe doesn't play well. All of a sudden it's like, whoa, like is this guy going to be dealt to somebody else for the second year in a row? You know, I, I, I think it's just a headache that could be there that if they get him signed is just non existent, you know? Headaches.

[Biz]

Does Dylan Larkin make them a contender?

[Whitney]

He makes them better.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Oh yeah.

[Whitney]

And they're good already.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Oh yeah.

[Whitney]

I would, I mean what, what would they have to give up though? It's crazy. You see all today's the MLB trade deadline. I'm watching over all this Red Sox news and boom, they get a player. But you're like, oh, what'd they give up? What'd they give up? Then that comes back and you're like, oh, some fans who know all the prospects, like that's a ton. I don't know. Just give me the star player and the prospects and the draft picks. The, the disgusting, dirty, evil Vegas Golden Knights have just convinced me like draft picks and prospects just bring me in players who are already that good and we'll figure it out later. Liam Plutman style. All right, let's throw it to Patrice Bergeron. A true legend at the game. And the guy looks great. Awesome. Sit down with us. We appreciate it. I think you guys will hall of famer.

[Biz]

And not to. Not to create any rumor mill drama stuff, but I heard he is skating right now. Skating again. Okay, So I know Boston's a little thin at center. You just. You never know with the money that guys are making now. I could see him coming back for one more.

[Keith]

It could be stupid not to Patrice Bergeron.

[Whitney]

Let's take a quick minute here and talk rollback. Everyone, listen up. Summer is here. Summer. It's already August. Makes me sick. But rollback is locked in with the gear that you need to look good the rest of the way. We get the sweater polo first. Hear me out. Sweater polo is not what you think of Roback for, but Roback pulled it off. Super comfortable, super soft, and an incredibly clean look. Perfect for a night out. You're going to want one podium level stuff. If it's good enough for biz, it's good enough for the rest of us. Then the tailwind polo. This one might be my favorite. It's so soft, very comfortable. It's lightweight, breathable for the summer. So it doesn't feel like you're a walking billboard. Just a clean, easy to wear polo that works everywhere. And the kind of shirt you put on and immediately feel like you've got it all figured out. And obviously the swim trunks, if you haven't grabbed those yet, best designs out there. The liner that you actually want to keep in. It's built for everything from the lake to the beach. So go to roback.com rho b a c k.com use code spitting spit I n for 20% off your first purchase to the end of the week. Summers on. New gear is here. Let's go. Let's take a moment here and talk pin golf. Gee, didn't you just play with the. The. The founder of pin golf the other day?

[Yan]

Yeah, we played at Essex too. One of the nicest courses. Unbelievable. Just like the random rocks, they have just giant rocks in the middle of a fairway. The elevation.

[Whitney]

Donald Ross lived on that house behind like the 14th theater.

[Yan]

Yeah, it's insane. Obviously I played awful. But ping golf we had. We were dialed with the ping golf gear. We had the caddy, we had the. The range finder, the speaker. And it was pretty cool talking to Alex, hearing just all the entire origin story of Pingolf and how far They've come. And it was pretty cool, too. He was also telling me about their National Golf Month sale. It's going to be huge this month. And everything on their website is up

[Whitney]

to 50% off with dog the Caddy GPS tablet. Oh, yeah, that's also on sale. Okay.

[Yan]

Oh, yeah.

[Whitney]

All right. That's never on sale. So there's. There's a sale on $100 off on that. All right. So everyone can shop pinned National Golf month sale and get dialed in for the rest of the season. Fall golf is coming. Shop pinned National Golf month sale and get dialed in for the rest of this golf season. Ladies and gentlemen, we got him. A man who exemplifies leadership.

[Biz]

Karate skills.

[Whitney]

Karate skills. According to him. Now boxing wife gonna be a psychologist. The man can do it all. Stanley cup champ, Olympic gold medalist, world junior. Goal everything. He's done it all. Patrice Bergeron.

[Biz]

And he looks like he could still play. Boys.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yes.

[Whitney]

So what's going on, buddy?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Not much. Thanks for having me, guys.

[Whitney]

Of course, of course. We figured once you retired, we'd be able to get you, you know, you're a guy that was just grinding and always dialed in, so came to Boston basically just to get you, so. We appreciate it.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Well, thanks for having me. Honestly, happy to be here.

[Whitney]

Awesome.

[Biz]

I was. I was on my way to take a piss and you were talking with wit. So you're. You're taking karate lessons now?

[Patrice Bergeron]

No. That's okay.

[Biz]

He was just 40.

[Whitney]

Told Gan okay. Because he could leg. Leg sweep a cow, I think at this point.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, I did some boxing lessons afterwards just to kind of like try different things. And I did go boxing with authority and. And our coach over, Tommy was there, but that one was Sean Lally, MMA guy that we got acquainted and. And his friend now obviously. So. Yeah, so he, you know, we've just had that one session now. He says that I'm. I'm an Jiu Jitsu guy and I can, you know, I can fight and whatnot, but maybe I should have done that during my career. That would have been.

[Whitney]

How many fights do you have in the NHL?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I think three fights. Do you remember who Georgia's was? My first one.

[Whitney]

Okay.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Tyler Myers.

[Whitney]

What?

[Biz]

Okay. All right. He's got the reach on.

[Patrice Bergeron]

It's random. Yeah, he sure did the reach. And Blake Wheeler. Okay. Former team up. It's kind of wild, but yeah, when he was with.

[Biz]

He's a little spicy. Blake Wheeler, right? He can get spicy.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. I mean, that was kind of like a random thing. Like he. During the Game. Like, we were in this crumb, you know, in front of the net, and he kind of said, like, anytime you want me, Bergie, I'm. I'm ready.

[Whitney]

I was like, buddy, what?

[Patrice Bergeron]

So then I kind of had it in my head the whole game that I was like, gonna have to go. Like, he just called me out. Yeah, he just called me out and. But, you know, obviously a lot of respect for him and there's really nothing behind it. It just. It just kind of happened.

[Keith]

I'm sure the media ran with that, like.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Exactly.

[Keith]

Didn't want to sign with. Back with you guys, right? Wasn't something.

[Whitney]

No, he's traded.

[Biz]

Yeah, I was with the Coyotes. Yeah, that was at the Coyotes. They tried a nickel and diamond on the signing bonus.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

After he was. He was like, fifth overall. Right?

[Biz]

Fifth overall. And they try to. Nickel and diamond. You go, I ain't coming to Phoenix. Trade me right fucking now. Right, right now. So what's it been like being retired? Like, how much do you miss playing and. And like, have you really enjoyed the other side, though, and maybe getting a little bit more family time?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, no, for sure. Definitely a lot more family time. As we talked before, my. My wife is back in school now, so I'm. I'm the stay at home dad and like the Uber driver and we got four kids, so definitely busy. But it's a lot of fun. It's nice to. And you know, I'm just taking a step back from. From everything and just kind of concentrating on family and prioritizing that right now. But, like, you know, definitely sometimes you do miss it. You miss the competition, the intensity of, like, being on the ice and being part of a team. I think that's probably the biggest thing. The camaraderie is. Is the one thing that you. You'll always miss.

[Biz]

Yeah, the room.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, exactly. Being with the guys and. But that being said, you know, in Boston, there's a lot of guys that are still around, which is kind of nice. So we have a little skate on Fridays. Just em, about this skating.

[Biz]

I started rumors that you were coming back.

[Whitney]

There you go. Started from that. I'm like, are you talking about the skating on Fridays?

[Biz]

I heard he's looking good. I heard he's coming back. They need it. They need a settlement. That could be a good deadline acquisition.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Biz]

You hear those rumors when we start them?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, no, I did. I heard about it. I had to answer them, too.

[Yan]

Thanks, guys.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Media from. Yeah, there's a couple media that actually reached out. They were like, hey, I Kind of have to ask. And obviously friends from back home. So let's do that again. Like, I'm next year.

[Keith]

The way the money's going, you might want.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, true. Yeah.

[Keith]

One year. Deal.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Yan]

I need you in Boston, man.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Please.

[Ra]

One year.

[Biz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cassidy's not here anymore. You can come back.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I love Cassidy.

[Biz]

Yeah. Okay. So you were a big fan.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, I mean, I. All my coaches had a lot of respect and they were great. So I have nothing bad to say about butchering now.

[Whitney]

Was there a side though, where there wasn't really anything a coach could ever say to you and you're a very modest guy. I'm not. But like, I think other guys were like, well, what's he gonna yell at Bergeron for? There's nothing to yell at. He's giving it to me constantly. You must have seen it a little.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, they're. Yeah, but I think they're. Every coaches has, you know, a side of them that they can, you know, they're going after some guys and yes, some guys hear more than others. That being said, like, I think like he was trying to get the best out of every player in the locker room. And, you know, he's done a great job of that. You know, he's really good at that. And like, obviously his X's and O's and the way that he coaches is pretty, pretty amazing. So like, he's obviously have a lot of respect for all the coaches and the guys I've had and. But I do know that there are some guys that have different opinions about different guys, different coaches.

[Biz]

Yeah, we. We had him at tnt. Like, obviously, like you said, he's a brilliant guy. X's and O's, like, he. Like, there's really no gray area, it seems right. He's like, this is what you're doing. This is what this is. And then. But just like the other side of like just how. How a coach probably as intelligent as he is can tend to wear on guys because maybe there's some frustration over a course of an 82 game season, but. Yeah, I don't know that.

[Whitney]

Well, we can move on from that. I want to go. Go back to your youth. That's kind of how we do it on.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

And you have a long career, so it won't be too long.

[Biz]

But can I say this one, boys? This. This hometown where he's from, this is it Lancien Lorette.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Funny, because, like, I was born there. Like, I didn't really grow up there, but then it's like Everywhere, like everyone says I'm from.

[Whitney]

Is that Montreal or Quebec City?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Quebec City.

[Keith]

Like, okay.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Like a little suburb right outside of Quebec City. But yeah, I grew up in a small town just outside Quebec City called Sillery. Kind of weird, but. And yeah, so like, I was born there, then I. I grew up playing minor hockey around that area for. Until basically I. I moved to Juniors.

[Whitney]

Nordiques fan.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yes. Huge Nordics fan, which I became an Avalanche fan afterwards. Like. And they won, right? That one hurt, like.

[Whitney]

Yeah. The next year, five.

[Patrice Bergeron]

They win in 96 when they moved. Yeah.

[Whitney]

You're 10. So it's like that' prime NHL fandom, I'd say.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, no, for sure. 95. They had a really good team too. And they were supposed to like, go far. And then in the first round, they faced Montreal and they lost. So like, I was at the first two games. So, yeah, so it hurt. But at the same time, I was a big fan of Sakic and Forsberg and then they moved on to Colorado, so it was a big Avalanche guy after that.

[Biz]

Do you remember going to games in Quebec?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Like stadium?

[Biz]

Yeah, it's still. It's still there and still great shape. Right?

[Whitney]

New one.

[Patrice Bergeron]

It's a new one now. They don't really use it anymore. It's kind of like now there's a big debate on what they're going to do with it. But like, right beside it is a brand new rink. That's beautiful. Yeah.

[Keith]

Because it seems like every year or whenever Expansions talked about, it's always Quebec should get a team. Like, how. How much do you think they deserve a team?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I mean, I think it'd be great. I mean, obviously, like, you know, kind of preaching for, you know, my. My hometown. And I think the fan base is there. I know they've. There was some talk about the corporate side that wasn't as strong. I feel like it's became a lot stronger in the past 10 years, I would say. And yeah, hopefully, you know, down the road at some point. I know now there's, you know, we're creeping up on the amount of teams that we have in the league. So maybe it'd be a move or from a different franchise. But like, I would love it. I'd love for the fans and for the kids to have that as well. Because I grew up having, you know, you know, idols and guys that were in, you know, in the same city as me and, you know, playing the NHL and having that dream is pretty special.

[Whitney]

And the sickest unis going, oh my

[Biz]

God, those are Unbelievable. Were they not selling out that building in Quebec during the Montreal Montreal playoff run this year?

[Whitney]

Story on how they, how they like ended up losing that team.

[Biz]

Yeah, well, I just like meant this year during the run, like, you would see, you know, when they were on the road, you'd see the Bell center that was packed. I think they were also selling out the.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Were they?

[Biz]

I. I thought I. Yeah, for the halves when they were on the road, like, they would sell out that building too. Maybe I'm going crazy. And it was just the Bell center and maybe they had the wrong tag on the bottom, but I could have sworn I saw.

[Patrice Bergeron]

You might be right. Packing it because now the fans, the Montreal fans came, you know, like, kind of spread out to. Towards Quebec City. Now it's, you know, like. Yeah, that's the thing. I wonder if, like, the Canadians would be okay with having a team in Quebec City at this point, because now it's their fan base over.

[Biz]

We have a lot of probably even Canadians and. And of course, a lot of American listeners that haven't been to Quebec City. Like, how would you describe it? Just go into it.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Well, very European, you know, the feel, the downtown, the old Quebec. I mean, I think it's a pretty nice and small town.

[Whitney]

Like, beautiful.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, I think.

[Whitney]

And it's great in the winter and the summer.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Like, because they have.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Depending on what. Yeah, they have this like, music festival in. In the summertime that's pretty, Pretty incredible. Lots of great big names that go to. So it's a good time to go in July. And then obviously if you're not scared of the cold and you're used to it, there's a carnival in. In February during the peewee tournament.

[Whitney]

Ice.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Have you guys everywhere. Yeah. Ice sculpture.

[Biz]

GWENY LIAS Y yeah.

[Keith]

Drinking out of those big long things. Exactly.

[Patrice Bergeron]

There you go. Yeah, so it's. I mean, I, I recommend it for anyone that's looking for a little change of scenery.

[Whitney]

So. Love of the game was there, right? Like, was your father really involved? We're always kind of interested in, in like, where your passion came from. If you had siblings who played and, and. Or maybe best buddies. Like, what were, what were your winters like up there?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Just.

[Whitney]

Yeah, hockey.

[Patrice Bergeron]

That's what it was. I think it was from my brother, you know, he was a couple years older. He was playing hockey. I wanted to do the same as him. And back home, you know, like, there's a lot of like, neighborhood rinks, the outdoor, like, rinks in the winter time. So you just grab your skates and stick and gloves and you go, you know.

[Whitney]

And would they be lit up?

[Patrice Bergeron]

They're lit up in a night. Yeah, because it's dark at like 4pm

[Biz]

you know, is that still a thing there still? The rinks.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Every neighborhood has their own rinks.

[Biz]

And that's unreal.

[Patrice Bergeron]

So I didn't. It gets so cold that you don't have to, you know, now people have the pipes and, like, you know, the refrigeration and all that.

[Biz]

It's got it in his backyard. It has a little maneuver out there.

[Whitney]

Bagging myself. Did it for the kids. No, I'm good, dad. I'm out there doing mountains on the mini.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Climbing the mountain.

[Biz]

Like, there's a whole.

[Whitney]

There's a laundry, there's a hole in the ice.

[Biz]

Kids are puking all over the house.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Get the in here.

[Biz]

I'm not worried about your VO2 max.

[Keith]

I'm pretty sure Ray Borks, I think his dad, like, ran one of those rinks and that's how, like, for his neighborhood, and that's how he would just be on the ice all day. Every, like, even before school, their lunch breaks, they'd go out and skate. Like. So these kids were on the ice all the time.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Because basically it's free ice. Like, it's just there. Whenever you want, you can jump on. There's no, like, schedule or, you know, it's just like, you can go with the park pucking a stick and you. After school. I'd go there with my brother all the time.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Can I steal your question?

[Ra]

Sure.

[Biz]

What's good? Yan's was asking for? He said I'm gonna ask him about why is there maybe a lack of French Canadian players right now?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Especially for me in the goaltending category. Like, you're telling me about these outdoor rinks where sometimes, like out west in Ontario, you see that they're limiting them and taking them away. You heard about stuff during COVID Well, if they have all these outdoor rinks and these kids can play for flee three, what's, like, what's happening right now with the development?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, that's a good question. I think there's a lot to talk about it right now. You know, I think Hockey Canada on as a whole.

[Ra]

Right.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Talking about it, but I think, like, especially, like the, you know, Quebec Federation, the province is doing a lot of soul searching right now and, like, trying to figure out, you know, what is the. The issue? Because, like, if you look at the world juniors, I think we only had one, you know, French Canadian on the team. From the province and none on Olympics. None on the Olympics. So, like, you know, like, I. I think there is definitely something that they're trying to figure out. You know, it's around the development. How, you know, is there, like, new ways of thinking of doing it that could be helpful? I know they're, you know, actually, it's funny because I. I was. I was at the world championships in Zurich, was it last week or two weeks ago, and I saw the. The director of the Quebec Hockey Federation, and they were. They're actually doing like a tour right now, trying to visit different, like, countries and see what, you know, what could.

[Whitney]

Like an audit almost.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. What can we improve? What things are you guys doing that has been successful whatnot? So I think it's great. I think it. Hopefully, you know, they find answers and. Because I know the talent is still there, the kids are, you know, the love of the game is still very much alive. It's more like, how do we figure it out?

[Biz]

Yeah. And it's not even bashing it. Like, I'm a proud Canadian.

[Keith]

No, I know.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Biz]

And, you know, I'm sure you're.

[Patrice Bergeron]

You're very reality.

[Biz]

Yeah. The province of Quebec, you want to see these guys flourishing, and Hockey Canada wants it.

[Whitney]

Oh, we're missing a province that we always had, like, where the.

[Biz]

Is our mark. Andre Flurry of. Of today. Right. We need a guy like that, like, with that type of flare and stuff, Even if it's just the net, for crying out loud.

[Patrice Bergeron]

It's crazy how the gold thing used to be, like, it's all French Canad Bobby Lou.

[Keith]

Like, it was like a. The top goalie every year was a French guy.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Keith]

And like, you play in the Quebec league and every game's 86 or whatever, like the softest league. But all the toug guys came out of there for a while, like George the Rock. Like, there were killers out of there. And then. Yeah, it's. That. That's good that they're at least out there trying to figure it out, because I remember, like, Barkov telling me, like, in Finland or whatever, they would play half ice all the time. And then I saw it, like, the kids would be doing that over here, even using half fights instead of. Because, you know, when you're young, the one kid can ski fast, he's got

[Patrice Bergeron]

the puck the whole game.

[Keith]

But, like, having small area games, so making those changes is huge.

[Whitney]

The question I've always wondered is you play. So you played one full year in the Quebec League. Right. Where Most guys play two and then their draft year happens and your second round pick, best draft of all time, 2003.

[Biz]

There we go, baby.

[Whitney]

Like, it's just nuts when you look through. It's the amount of games that were played from this draft.

[Biz]

I think 20 guys in the first round have played like a thousand games.

[Whitney]

There's like 20, 10, 51, 1365, 15, 26, 1321 and like keep going and going and going. But all of a sudden you're in the NHL and second rounder and like, I don't know your expectations going. I've always wanted to ask you, like, did you have any idea you'd make the team?

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, not that year.

[Whitney]

Because they couldn't have even thought it, I'm guessing.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, I, there's no way. I mean, I, as you said, I was a second round pick. And for me it was more. When I got to training camp was more like, let's leave an impression, you know, like, hopefully, you know, next year or the following year, I'll be, I'll be in the mix. And so I think at that draft they traded Stumple, who was a centerman. Okay. And they didn't sign anyone over the summer. So I kind of got there. There was, there was room, so there was an opportunity. Doesn't mean that, you know, like, doesn't mean anything, but.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Ra]

At least for you.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. New coach Mike Sullivan, I think it was his, I think he made. Maybe he came in the year before, halfway through and so we were still like a rookie kind of, you know, coach coming up from Providence. So I think he was kind of like open to like, look at anyone, give anyone a chance. Right. So sometimes these coaches are like, you know, my.

[Whitney]

They have their guys.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Have their guys. You know, team is made pretty much before camp and this one was more. Anyways. I don't know, maybe that's something I'm just telling myself. But like, I got there and yeah, I mean, I, I. Rookie camp, I was supposed to like go through the rookie camp and, and come back to juniors to Bathurst in the Quebec League. And the Quebec scout at the time, Daniel Dore was, came to me. He's like, hey, you know, you had a good camp. We're going to bring you to regular camp.

[Whitney]

First win down, right? Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

So I'm like, all right, that's. This is amazing. And then first week of camp, I slowed down the first couple games, couple days. I was more like in awe of like seeing Joe Thornton.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Was on the team then.

[Patrice Bergeron]

So like. And he came to me again, which kudos. To him for like doing that. But like, he's like, hey, just don't, you know, don't think about who you're playing against, who you're passing to, but like, just keep playing your game. They really like you. So that was kind of like the, the moment of being like, all right, like, you know, they're, they're watching me. So, like, let's just like give it more, more energy, I guess. I don't know how to say it or explain it, but anyways, so go through the first week. And the first game was coming up on the weekend, it was Montreal. So I. He can't. He comes to me again, he's like, they're going to give you a game. And after the game you're going back to juniors. Like, you had such a great camp, they want to give you a game. So I go there, I played a game and I score in overtime and they're like, you're coming back with us. So I play this.

[Whitney]

You must have been so happy at this point.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Like you're, you're like, oh, my God, that was wild.

[Whitney]

I'm surviving this.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, I know. And I was just happy to play that game, to be honest. My whole family drove down, it's about a three hour drive, all at the game. Had some friends.

[Whitney]

That's not three on three overtime at that point either, right?

[Patrice Bergeron]

No. Yeah.

[Whitney]

Find it out. Real old school time.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, it was. Yeah, no, you're right. And then, yeah, so I scored that goal. They're like, hey, you're coming back, you know, for the Boston. So I got back on the plane and we had nine games, nine exhibition games back then, which was a lot more than now. I played all nine and signed the contract at the end. They signed me. Yeah.

[Whitney]

Holy. I bet they weren't sure, though, if you were gonna like, because you could. Men. Isn't it the eight games thing then? Like, did you, when you signed, were you like, I'm right here all year or not even then?

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, they're like, they're gonna try. And at that point, so I signed the contract, which means I'm gonna start the year. And they signed Travis Green the next day as a center. And I'm like, oh, no, I'm going back. Like, you know, there's no way they're going to keep me. And then. So I played my first few games and they switched me to the wing and. And yeah, I guess we were on the road. Played the California trip to start, which was pretty amazing as start in LA for. Oh, you Know, I think it was Dallas. And then we played in Jersey at the Garden. The first game. That was my first NHL game. And it was a tie.

[Ra]

There were.

[Patrice Bergeron]

There were ties back then. It was a tie. Two, two. And back then, Jersey didn't give up any space. Right. It was just a boring 2, 2 game. And then we went to that Dallas and California trip and. And I didn't know if I was going to make it. And after I think game, maybe seven or eight, they're like, hey, you should look for a place.

[Whitney]

I'm in the NHL now.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Yan]

When did you decide to live with Martin Lapointe?

[Patrice Bergeron]

So that's. That's what happened. So Mike Sullivan, and that's Marty that told me that. I guess Mike Sullivan, the coach went to Marty and said, can you help Bergey, like, find a place to stay? He's, you know, we're going to keep him. And he said, well, if he's okay with. I'll talk to him. But like, I'd love to. For him to come with me. So took me under his wing and stayed with his family. And I mean, that was beyond like cr. It was surreal to me to have him.

[Whitney]

How was your English at this point?

[Ra]

Awful.

[Whitney]

Okay. Because I. Yeah, I remember, like, I

[Patrice Bergeron]

could barely speak commercial.

[Keith]

Him on the Zamboni with Raycroft. No, no, it was Samson. Off Sergey Samson.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, it was Razor.

[Keith]

Oh, it was Razor.

[Whitney]

For Bruins fans and even hockey fans. Like 0304, the Bruins roster. Thornton, Glenn Murray, Brian Rolston, Mike Knuble, Samsonov, Nick Boynton was there. Travis Green, Michael Nylander, a couple games. Hal Gill, Rob Zamner. Like, this was.

[Keith]

Oh, wow.

[Biz]

Gonchar and group.

[Whitney]

Gonchar. Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Keith]

That deadline going back to like, they. Because the Bruins were known as like a pret. Pretty cheap organization back then. Right? I bet they were just flying you up there so they didn't have to pay for your flight from Boston.

[Biz]

100 quicker to get.

[Keith]

We'll bust you to Bathurst. Thank God you scored. Holy.

[Whitney]

But you made the playoffs. Who'd you play in game seven? Who was that first round against seven Game series.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Montreal.

[Biz]

Oh, my God.

[Whitney]

Where was game seven?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Boston. We had the home ice. We should have won that series by. By a mile. But I mean, kiddos, to obviously Montreal. But I'm just saying, like, we were up three to one. We lost that. That. I remember that.

[Biz]

So this is. You came in an interesting time too, because you came out. Came in pre lockout.

[Whitney]

I know that's.

[Biz]

I mean. But before we get there, though, I want to talk about the draft specifically. Like, did you know where you were going to go around? Like, did you think you would go that high? And then like, what was it like as a, as a French Canadian kid getting drafted by the Bruins at that time? Because I feel like that rivalry was still a thing back.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I loved it. I was, I was, as I said, I was a big Nordics fan and when they left, like I was not a Canadian at all. So like to be with the rivals for me was, was great. So that's. But like the draft, like I, I didn't know. I had no expectations. I obviously I fell under the radar. Like I wasn't really, you know, I wasn't. I. The second round, the third round was kind of my hope. I knew the first round was not like kind of out of the, the equation. I didn't go to the. What was that game back then? Like the oh, prospects prospect. I didn't go.

[Keith]

I make that or Cherry.

[Whitney]

Was that something at the time you're like bummed out about or were you.

[Yan]

Not really.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I started on fourth line in Bathurst that for my first year I was on the fourth line and it kind

[Whitney]

of moved up the NHL one year. Yeah, yeah.

[Keith]

You only get 70 points and like

[Biz]

that because that first year in junior you played four games to kind of get your feet wet. You came in and played that full season before you made the NHL and like you went into that camp and started fourth line and just progressed your way up.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, exactly. So like that. So those, those four games were like around Christmas time. They, they had a lot of injuries. They call me because they were playing Quebec City. So like I was right there. They're like, did you wanna. So I, I came in for a few games around that, during that road trip and then went back to Midget aaa. But then this following year I still wasn't like a sure shot to make that team. I was a fifth round pick in, in juniors.

[Whitney]

Yeah. So at 13 or 14, I know we're kind of all over the place. Were you like not one of the big names in Cuba City? I, I mean you must have been pretty good.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I was a good player like on, on my team.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

But I don't know if you guys remember like Steve Bernier, Mark Julio.

[Biz]

I play with them in under 17s.

[Whitney]

Yeah, they were like the guys, the

[Biz]

guys like they were like playing with Crosby and Ramouski.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, exactly. Ruse and Danny Ruse.

[Biz]

Oh yeah, I play with him. Okay.

[Patrice Bergeron]

So those guys were like the, you know, they were above and beyond everyone. They were like like men playing with kids basically at that age. They were like amazing. And so they were like the ones that were supposed to be like, well, that ended up being first round picks and but you could tell like they had something special about them. But like, so I kind of fell because of that. Under the radar a bit because I was playing in the same league

[Keith]

and

[Patrice Bergeron]

yeah, so like got drafted in the fifth round, juniors, got a couple games that, that same year when I got, I went training camp, got cut, but then went, played major aaa, got the four games around Christmas time, came back down and then the following year that's when like I was, I, I was saying like I wasn't a sure shot to make that team. So like I was at the end of training camp, like obviously ended up making it, but I was on fourth line and kind of worked my way up during that year to eventually being on the radar to at the draft because like that wasn't something that I, it's funny because like my age at the time I had like an agent, but he wasn't, you know, he was more advisor. An advisor. Yeah, exactly. And then he called me in January and he said, how's everything going? It's going well. I mean I, I'm having fun whatnot. And he goes, I was talking to Chicago the other day and they, they like your game. And I was like, chicago, like, who you talking about? He's like, the Blackhawks. I'm like, what? I was like, what do you mean? Like, so I had no idea that I was like, it's almost like it

[Whitney]

kind of quite good almost.

[Patrice Bergeron]

It was over my head. The fact that I was, it was

[Biz]

my draft year and you were, it seems like you were probably, were not reading the press clippings, like reading things about yourself. You're just kind of worried about playing

[Patrice Bergeron]

hockey and getting better and Bathurst is a really small town. Like, you know, Yan's nose, like it's so. Yeah, I was just hanging out with the guys and like do you think,

[Whitney]

say, starting off on the fourth line, you had to be pretty good defensively? Like, do you think that led to like the type of player you became where you were just, it was so responsible. Right, like, because you had to be that way maybe at like a younger

[Biz]

age and in a, in a league where I feel like it was very point driven, like the Quebec League, like a lot of these guys, 100 points, 150 points.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, I think the, you know, it definitely made me like conscientious of like, you Know my defensive game and like, making sure that, you know, because if you make a mistake, if you're on the fourth line, like, yeah, you're probably not seeing the ice again. Right? So like, obviously there is that part, but also our coach that year was really big on like face offs and like playing the right way and like, you know, like not taking any chances. And you know, I'm a type of guy that wants to do right by the. Yeah, you want to press your coach right thing. And like, so like, that was like, I took so much. I put so much emphasis on like Face off and working on it and like making sure that, you know, was doing the right. So I think that helped me a lot that year. Like that learning process of like playing defensively sound but also like, you know, try to eventually bring some offense to it as it. The year progressed.

[Whitney]

All right, so take the. The rookie year happens, which is just incredible. Like the way that all works out and then all of a sudden, like, boom, league's canceled right now. Since you're under the entry level deal, like, was there any discussion of anything or was it Providence? Like, you knew you were going to be in Providence, which I was in the AHL that year. It was a great league team. Five to seven guys were on the NHL team the next year. But was there talk of going to Europe or anything? You know, guys?

[Biz]

Yeah. And I feel like those players had the adv coming out of the lockout. There was a lot of like, old school guys who. They probably had big contracts and they took the full year off and they came back and it felt like the game because of no more obstruction. It was like another, like another level, another speed and. Yeah, like what. So like, what was all that like.

[Patrice Bergeron]

And they like the. The new rules we did in. During that. Yeah, we tried the new red line. So we were using million penalties at

[Whitney]

the beginning of that.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. Oh, all that stuff. Like we tried, like we were kind of the guinea pig. Guinea pigs for that. So like, it was helpful having that year for sure for myself. Like, I never really considered Europe because like, so the. My junior team was like pulling hard for me to go back.

[Whitney]

Yeah, yeah, but that's like.

[Patrice Bergeron]

But then I was like, well, I really wanted to go to Providence. The main reason was to. To continue my development, but also the second was to continue to learn English because it was so bad. I was like, I gotta. Because last year, the year before, I was with Marty, right. Playing speaking French, speaking French to the family pretty much the whole year. So then like, you don't really. You need to immerse yourself if you want to learn and. And really improve. And so, like, I was like, I need to go live on my own and, like, learn English and, like, develop as a player. And. And I knew that the league was going to be a great league, you know, like, there was a lot of talk of, like, a lot of guys in my situation or younger guys that were going to go play. Like, I remember Spezia went and played.

[Whitney]

Yep.

[Patrice Bergeron]

So a lot of guys, their team was a wagon.

[Biz]

He was talking about Bingo. Yeah. He was saying how they ran through the regular season, then you guys beat him in playoffs.

[Whitney]

And I actually wanted to ask you if you remember, we played you guys in Providence, and it was an afternoon

[Biz]

game and there was 16 anthems.

[Whitney]

David Kochi fought Colton or. I don't know. I mean, you've played, so buddy.

[Biz]

Coach must have got.

[Whitney]

It

[Biz]

looked like me and hers put together.

[Whitney]

Blood reached Boston from the Providence arena from coach's nose. But actually, I. I knew Colton. Or you guys had. But you had Brent Thompson.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Ra]

Oh, my.

[Whitney]

You had Brenton Walsh on that team. It was Jay Henderson. That was a tough team you guys

[Patrice Bergeron]

had, but every team was like that, though.

[Whitney]

Yeah. There was meat down there then. Yeah, Meats.

[Patrice Bergeron]

There was at least three or four fights. Every game. Every game. Yeah.

[Whitney]

But what's cool about that? Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

[Keith]

I was just gonna say, from playing in the NHL with the old rules going, and then in the AHL with the new rules for you, was it like, oh, my God, this is so much better, because the D back then were big, holding you, and I'm sure you were 18, you were still growing into your body, not as strong. So was it much easier for you in the AHL that year, as opposed to the NHL the year before?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I just felt like it was a lot more fun. Like, you know, you felt like you had more room, more time. Obviously it was nice to have more power plays, you know, like. But the red line made such a big difference. But then it was a big adjustment, like, defensively, like a neutral zone. How do you defend? And, like, so there's all that. But, like, I can't imagine, like, playing with a red line anymore. You know what I mean?

[Biz]

Like, Wayne. Wayne says they should bring it back. I asked him what would be one. I said, what would be one rule change? And he said he would bring back the red line. He had a. He had a great reason as to why my CT's kicking in right now. I can't really remember what that's so

[Whitney]

tough to just bring up something Wayne Gretzky brought up. Crazy rule and then not knowing what he said.

[Biz]

Yeah, okay, well, I mean, there's a

[Whitney]

10 chance we drop this interview. We'll have you call so we can then after the interview give. But that year. So the coolest part for you that year was you leave middle of the year and you go to play for the greatest world junior team argument. Argumently that's ever. That's ever kind of been fielded. And that was the first time, I think you and Sid played together, right?

[Patrice Bergeron]

First time.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

And. And I just remember it was in North Dakota. I remember you guys and it was like Ovechkin versus Crosby and. And Malin was there too, and Malkin was there. And like take. Take me through your memories of that and also like seeing Sid, who hasn't even been drafted yet, you must have been like, who. Holy.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, who is this guy? I remember the first practice when Sid was on the ice and he. There's a three on two and I don't know, like, we kind of like regrouped in neutral zone and he ended up being in the middle and I passed to him and he went right through both Ds with such Pete. I was like, what is going on? Like, and it was like Shea Weber. And like, enough.

[Ra]

Yeah, yeah.

[Biz]

Your decor was like a hall of fame decoration.

[Patrice Bergeron]

So it was. I was like, oh my God. So I'll just give him that puck. I got. So like he's. Yeah, he was on a different level. He was 17 too. Like, he. With the bubble and.

[Whitney]

Yeah, yeah, but nine too. Wasn't he?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Right? Exactly. No, that team was. Was incredible. I mean, so much fun. And as I like, I've never really had. I guess I played the year before at the Worlds, but like, I didn't really. I didn't know much of these guys because I wasn't part of these games, you know, the under 17 or under 18, whatever that's called. And so like, I didn't. I didn't really know get Slav or like Carter and Richards and all these guys were new to me. But like, I was so impressed with the talent and, and the character also. It wasn't. The guys wanted to win and like they were like chirping each other and like in practice they were going hard and the intensity was always like.

[Whitney]

Because they're almost like feeling each other like you're on the same team, but there's some competitiveness there. Right?

[Keith]

Like you're all that playing against.

[Whitney]

You're all that back playing against them. Yeah, I mean, going through this, the tournament scoring leaders. You led the tournament scoring. Then it was Getzlaf, Ovechkin, Jeff Carter, Malkin, Crosby. And it like, you just keep going and going. It's nuts that you got to kind of experience that, which is probably cool to break up the HL season too. Yeah, you get to go away for two, three weeks.

[Patrice Bergeron]

It was a fun, fun experience, but also was a nice little breakup in the season. Especially at that time, I think there was talks about, like, if. If we're not going back to the NHL, halfway through, it's, you know, it's over. So, like, knowing that, like, I went over there, I had the chance to, like, live that experience, and, you know, I'm looking at it as the glass half full. Even though, you know, I missed a year playing the NHL, I had a chance to play the world juniors and like, on. On one of the good teams that, you know, has been.

[Biz]

Has been on the ice up until that point. Like, had you faced. Ever faced pressure like that? Because I believe it was the year prior where it was the Patrick o' Sullivan goal off of flurry, right. They'd lost the gold, the gold medal game. So all of a sudden you guys have this stack lineup. Half the team was a year underage of the max the year prior. So now all of a sudden you have the Phaneufs, the Seabrooks. I think Cockburn was on the team. Crosby, obviously a year older. Like, was that the most pressure you'd ever felt to that point to, like, bring home gold for Canada?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I don't know if we felt pressure all that much. It was more like the expectations inside the locker room was so high. The guys had a chip on their shoulders because they lost a year before. Like, as you said, I think it was 11 or 12 guys coming back from the year before.

[Biz]

Stephen Dixon was on the team.

[Yan]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Of all guys.

[Keith]

Clark MacArthur, I think was on it.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, like, he was there.

[Biz]

Yeah, it was crazy.

[Keith]

He just.

[Whitney]

Fourth line grinder.

[Biz]

Was he shaving his V neck into his chest back then? And his. His triceps.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I remember him being so funny, man. Oh, he was the best in locker, you know, like chirps and like, just the. The one liners that he had. Like, he was a great guy. But yeah, the guys just. I think because of what happened the year before, like, it was just like they were on a mission. Everyone you could tell, like, there was no. Nothing was really going to stop them from, like, getting that goal that Year and, you know, I was running along, and it was a lot of fun to be a part of that.

[Biz]

What was the gold medal game? Was that against Russia?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, Russia.

[Biz]

Okay.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Six one. Oh, God.

[Biz]

That's a state.

[Whitney]

That was the Double Dion game.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, the double deal.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Keith]

You mentioned, like, going to Providence, learn English, then you go into a locker room like that with all, like, how many of those guys ended up being captains of NHL teams? And for you, you're known as one of the best leaders. Like, when did you find your voice to be that leader and be able to speak up, be who you are now?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, no, I think that year was. Was definitely helpful for me to. To start a little bit. I mean, going to the world juniors. Also the fact that, you know, I played the NHL the year before, you know, I was bringing some experience to the locker room, and it's, you know, coach was Brent Sutter at the time. Put an A on my jersey. So that, you know, obviously meant a lot. I was still maybe a little shy with the. With the English, but once I was with guys my age, it kind of helped, like, finding my voice a little bit.

[Whitney]

Not, you know, you're more confident.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. Not feeling so bad about, like, messing up or whatever. So, like, that. That tournament really helped me with, like, the leadership part, but also leading by example, but. And learning from some guys, too. Some guys were like, you know, Mike Richards was. Was a guy that was pretty impressive as a teammate, and he was. He was a menace on the ice,

[Whitney]

you know, he was.

[Patrice Bergeron]

He was a game.

[Whitney]

Exactly.

[Biz]

I played under 17 with him. Under 18. Jeff Carter, like, ju. His stick was so good. Maybe not the fastest guy, but just fight anyone.

[Whitney]

So that lockout year. Him and Carter came to Philly after their OHL season. And in g. In the second round, we were up 4:1 in the third period. Game six. They won 74. They end up playing you guys in the.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Play them in the. We lost in. Want to say six, but.

[Whitney]

And they won it.

[Patrice Bergeron]

They won. Yeah.

[Whitney]

Yeah, they.

[Biz]

Oh, the year of the lockout.

[Whitney]

Yeah, they added those two, and it was.

[Patrice Bergeron]

It was fair when they added those two guys. Yeah, they led the. The league in scoring, the playoffs.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Carts and Richie, I think.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Dude, that out of junior is insane.

[Whitney]

Oh, and now. And like we said, that league was legit.

[Biz]

Talk about the first three years of your.

[Ra]

Your.

[Biz]

Like your professional career. So you make it out of camp after only playing one year.

[Whitney]

Junior on the fourth time. Beginning of that year. Yeah.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Fifth round.

[Biz]

Back in the queue. That three, four Year span. Then the next year you go to Providence, you get to win gold with with Canada and experience. You know that that year down the Miners with the new rules. And then that next year you come back and then 23 games into the season, Joe Thorton gets traded.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Biz]

What the is going.

[Whitney]

That must have been so shocking for.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, it was especially this early in the year. Like it was. Yeah, it was wild. It was a crazy time for sure.

[Whitney]

Now going back to the year you lost to Montreal, that was when they were all over him. He had broken ribs. Right. And they, the media it was. And the fans were like, oh, oh, he's not producing. And it's. And I think a lot of people who knew and you. Yeah, I'm speaking for you. It's like the guy they can't even breathe the broken rib right. Like that was part of it, I think, wasn't it?

[Patrice Bergeron]

100. Like I, I was always impressed with Joey. Always wanted to play through so much. Like, I remember like earlier in that year, my first year, he, he got into a fight against Lindros and Lindros broke his face. Like his, his orbital bone and his nose and he got surgery. And then we had a game like the next day or the following day. And I remember a trainer being like, hey, you're gonna take some a few weeks off. Like it's the regular season. And it was, it was on the ice. He played the game. No, he was wild.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Full cage.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Full cage. And then. Yeah, he was. Yeah.

[Whitney]

Love when the game so much was being questioned. I know.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. No, that was not not it like he was, it was as stuff as they come. But also his love of the game was special.

[Keith]

I don't think there's anyone who loves the game more than he's still in the walk.

[Biz]

Still doing helicopter talks for the boys out of mine.

[Keith]

I love them, but it must have been too like they knew they had him where.

[Biz]

Oh.

[Whitney]

Which is weird for you, I bet.

[Keith]

Right?

[Whitney]

Right.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

You're 20 and you're lighting it up that year. So they're part of it is like, oh, we kind of got our guy. Which is maybe awkward for you.

[Keith]

Would have been nice.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I don't know if I saw it that way. I mean I, I, I couldn't tell you really what the reason why they treated him and what really went behind the scenes. But I was still young, you know. Like, I, I know you know, I needed some time to really like be, be the, the face of the team. But yeah, I mean it was, it was a Crazy, crazy year. Obviously it was a. It was a. Definitely a tough time around. You know, the fan base and like, there's a lot of things going on around that time. The building wasn't always full. You know, there's. There's some. Some tough years early, but, you know, obviously it was all worth it in the end, I guess.

[Whitney]

And so those two years out of the lockout, point per game player right there, your game's like, really? And you're 21ish. And then all of a sudden, that Randy Jones hit. Yeah. And. And I think, would you play 10 games?

[Patrice Bergeron]

You're like, that was my 10 games.

[Whitney]

Did you ever try to come back during that year? I mean, it was kind of similar to what Sid went through later, where you're. It's kind of a scary time. Right. Like, you'd been through a lot, physically and mentally, to not know if you were going to be good again. Right.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, no, for sure, it was. It was more mentally. That was. That was the hardest part. You know, like, I probably could have played at the end. I think I was. I was ready to play. And I'll never know if. If you know, what was the best decision at that point, maybe it would have been fine to play, but they shot me. I think I was young and they wanted to shut me down and like, you know, let's start over. Let's have the whole summer so you can really build your strength back.

[Ra]

And.

[Whitney]

And they weren't the playoffs anyways.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No. We were there for the first round. Okay. We lost in the first round, but, like, we were kind of rebuilding also that year. So it was. Yeah, it was a tough year. It was. It was mentally really draining. And it's more the questions that goes through your head or the questions that people ask you. Right. Yeah, you've been asked all the time, how you feeling? Are you gonna, you know you're gonna be okay or, you know, are you the media asking if, you know, you're gonna feel you're gonna be scared we go back on the ice or feel you're gonna be the same player? So, you know, a lot of soul searching at that point, but, like, it was something that obviously made me stronger that I learned from.

[Whitney]

I guess, like, after that, I mean, it was kind of like, you're saying the rebuild happened. What besides the. I mean, there was names that came in and Krachi becomes a player. And then the biggest thing, though, was like, Big Z and what he brought and Savard, and then you have to see him go through everything. But you must have been realizing we're building something special here, right? And what did Big Z act like when he came in? Because we've heard the stories of camp when he's doing 35 pull ups and everyone's like, ah.

[Keith]

And you were still pretty young when he came, right?

[Patrice Bergeron]

He's 21.

[Keith]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ra]

Jesus.

[Whitney]

Demanding, right?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I mean, like, so I played against him right when he was in Ottawa. So like, when he, when I found out that we signed him over the summer, I was like, oh my God, thank God, you know, like, I don't have to face him anymore. But I guess, like, what I didn't realize is he plays as hard in practice. So then like, so I asked more of. Wait. I always tell that story of like, usually it come to me and be like, hey, let's set the tone today for practice. And he always wanted to start drills. And it was like a one on one drill. And I was like, yeah, let's go. Like, let's, let's, you know, let's play hard and let's, let's set the pace. And I go into the, the corner and he absolutely buries me, like, from behind. Dude, I'm like, I'm on, I'm on the ice.

[Whitney]

I fall down, got the whole year.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, but that wasn't that year. I'm just like, that's kind of kind of jumped a few years at that point. But like, and then he's. I'm on the, on the ice and he's pushing me down and like, my helmet's over my head and I'm like, like, what is happening? And then like, clothes, like, feels bad. He's like, all right, like, you know, I'm waving the, the white, the white towel here. Like, so, like, he blows the whistle, like, goes back to the, to our line and goes, great job. And I'm like, yeah, for you. You abused me for 15 seconds in the corner. Like, what? Anyways, I always thought, I always tell that story because it's kind of like Z in a nutshell, you know, like, you just can't turn it off. But like, what he did for us as a team and, and individually, like, just to like, find that edge and find the intensity and like, don't take a practice or shift or a workout, you know, off. Like, you always need to be on and, and, and that's the culture that he, that he brought in. I mean, it's just leading by example every day, right? They didn't have to say much. You just had to look at you like the wrong way to be like, all right, like I'll dial it back in. You know, so. And, and then. Yeah, you're right. You know, they, they brought in some character guys and some pieces that came in and like wanted to be a part of the solution and, and, and really bought into what you know, the leadership group wanted to sell and, and the coaching staff and. But it definitely started with Z, you know, and, and as in its intensity and, and you're right. You know, the, the pull ups and a training camp and back then we used to do the, the wing gate.

[Whitney]

Oh yeah, the quick one. But it was, it was worse than the feel.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Like you had a puke after. Yeah. 100. But he crushed it by like it wasn't even close. Like the sec, it was first, but the second was like, I don't remember exactly what the bike was broken.

[Biz]

Yeah, it came down to basically what your, your watt, your job.

[Yan]

Right.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

If you're able to sustain anyways. But like he was miles ahead of everyone else. So. And then he was kind of like mad at us because he was kind of like, hey, we need to like, we have a lot of work to be in front of us if this is what we're showing up with in this. So then that's when like in the summertime guys, like we're nervous about him.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

But also like, I think it was great for him to be like, you know, this is unacceptable. Like these numbers are like embarrassing. Like we need to like figure it out. So a lot of things happen. But obviously that, that part of it, that competitive drive and that leading by example of like this never being satisfied from Z has been pretty special to, to witness but also I think really helpful for us because we were all young at that time.

[Keith]

I tell the story all the time. When we were during the lockout in. What was that? 12.

[Whitney]

When he came back from China.

[Keith]

Came back from China. We were all skating at bu. It was like the dog days of the lockout. And he flew overnight, landed cayman skate and we were like two minutes late getting on the ice. He comes in the locker room, get on the eyes. Every scream we're like, dude, we've been, we've been doing this since September. Leave us alone.

[Biz]

He's like, get on the eyes.

[Whitney]

They ended at 3 in the morning. I think to try.

[Keith]

I'm like, go see your family, man. Yeah, he was a machine.

[Biz]

What was your introduction to Brad Marshaw? Like? When, when did he, when did he.

[Whitney]

Funny enough, I didn't know. I thought the cup year Was his rookie year. He played 20 games a year before. A goal.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Like, I didn't know that. I thought it was that first bad sound.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, no. He had a couple training camps, I think before maybe a year. One training camp, they went back to juniors and then another training camp where he played in the A and then came up and played those 20 games and then the following. So I think it was his third training camp, his rookie year and was

[Biz]

he being a rat out there? Like, did you notice him? Like, were you. Was he on the radar?

[Patrice Bergeron]

He was like. I remember actually when I was coming back from my concussion that summer, so we, you know, I missed that whole year, come back in the summer and there was like Dev camp. They started doing that. So Marshy was there and I, I asked if I could go skate with the guys and like, so I was there and I remember doing like a first practice. I didn't know Marshy at all. We do this drill and it's a one on one in the corner and he comes in so hot and he like. And he hits me basically. Yeah. And I'm like, who is this guy? Like, and he was like, obviously, like, he's, he's not the biggest. And I was like like, what's happening? And he was so relentless on the puck and like hitting me and like, so like I was like, all right, like this. But I liked it. I was like, this guy's a gamer.

[Whitney]

Like, knew what he was doing too.

[Patrice Bergeron]

So like from that training, from that camp and they asked me, they're like, if there's one guy that like stood out. And I was like, this guy, like Marshawn, like he's, he wants it. You could tell. Like, you know, I remember, I don't know if you guys saw, but like Marty St. Louise said he was at Def Camp for the Canadians. I think it's from this past year. And he said if I, you know, if I have like a ball and I leave it at the center of this locker room.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Who's going to leave with it?

[Ra]

Right?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I would. You'd be on the team who's got, I guess, the guts and the will to, to go above and beyond and really do whatever it takes to make the team. That's what Marshy, you know, kind of felt to me that during that, that week of Dev camp, like he was just like, like a dog on a bone at every play. He wouldn't give up. Like, let's say like you go for like, you know, a shooting drill early in practice and just take the one shot, go in the corner, he would go for the rebound, grab the rebound, try to go score. Even if, like, yeah, you know, the goalie was still watching the next guy coming, right. He was still going put the puck in and like, why?

[Biz]

Kind of like how Talbot was a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Whitney]

But like, Marshawn just was so skilled. I remember. So I. I know. I remember watching the finals and I correct me, he was on the fourth line at one point in that year.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

And then by the finals, you guys are playing incredible together, top line. And I was like, this guy, like, he's so much more skilled than I thought. Playing against him early or watching, I was like, wow, he's like toe dragging guys. And like, he had moves that I didn't expect. Where you say Talbot didn't have like, that aspect of it also, which was even crazier.

[Biz]

No doubt.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, he definitely had that skill. Skill set that, you know, but then he. He came in and he. He was willing to do whatever it took to, to stick and to be on the team and if it meant to be on the fourth line and be like, yeah, you know, a pest is. You know, he didn't care. Like, so. And kudos to. To him for. For doing that and. And obviously he had it in him too as well. But for Marshy, I think it was more like the growth, you know, from like the, the steps that he took from. From like, like the beginnings to like, to now really like it.

[Biz]

But he's all just like, maturity wise.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, maturity. Yeah.

[Biz]

I think he was. It was hard. It's almost like he was stuck between, like, he had to be that like, four checking guy who would get under your skin in that rat. But yet then he had to be like a top line player. So he was trying to find that balance. Like. Yeah, there was a few instances, but like, you look back on hockey history, like, hilarious. Him licking Callahan's face. Hilarious. Unbelievable. That is like, like, you guys must.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, that's where we draw the line.

[Yan]

Marshy,

[Biz]

when he did that, like, what are you guys saying in the locker room?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I mean, it was more like. Yeah, he was like, what? It's not in the rule book.

[Biz]

That's what he said. That's such a marshy answer.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, he was like, trying to get under their skin. It was like, well, I mean, you know, do whatever it takes.

[Whitney]

Well, yeah, but I don't.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I don't know if you should talk about this or if you, like, know.

[Keith]

Yeah, but there's also, like, for you, his teammates like, guy, we don't want you suspended. We want you playing. Yeah. There must have been conversations.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, there's conversations, but Marsh is a smart guy. Like, he. Yeah, he's extremely emotional. Like, he's, you know, he's got his heart on his sleeve, and, like, he'll do whatever for the team, for his teammates, and, you know, there's moments where, like, the emotions got the best of them, and it's just what it is. And he would be the first to say after the incident and be like, yeah, I know. You don't have to say anything.

[Keith]

Like, I don't.

[Whitney]

I just. The wires crossed.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, exactly. On the batch. Many times I had to, like, put my arms around him and be like, buddy, like, simmer down. Like, we have.

[Whitney]

Really?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. Let's get back to the game. Like, we need you.

[Biz]

You know, like, would he ever bite back at you or would he always.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, it would.

[Biz]

Like, that's cool.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, we had that relationship. Right. Like, we were really good friends, and we still are. So, like, it's. Yeah, it was more like. And I was. You know, it happened to me as well, where he would be like, hey, like, you know, let's focus back on the game and, like, you know, let's forget about this or whatever. So, like, we had. You know, we've played together for so long that we're able to, like, be able to talk to each other and, like, and have no hard feelings from it. So, like. And to go back on Marshy to him making it, I think, like, he's. He paid his dues, and that's. He always says that, and sometimes it grinds his gears when, like, he sees, like, guys.

[Whitney]

First line. Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I think for him, he's like, that's what built me, like, fourth line and have to work my way up and, like, you know, eventually, like. Like, coming through. Like, that's the adversity that, you know, you need.

[Whitney]

That's why he's still playing. Yeah, that's part of it.

[Keith]

I think I played with him in junior. He was on the fourth line, like, barely playing. Like, there were guys way better than him. Like, I mean, similar to you earning everything that he got. Like, nothing was handed to him. You got to tip your cap to guys like that. Because nowadays it's like, even when you made it 18, there wasn't many guys like it is now.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No. Yeah. It was an older league.

[Whitney]

Guys played.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

After being drafted.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Oh, it was crazy. Like, it.

[Biz]

The thing that was crazy about it is, like, it kind of goes back to that 03 draft, and maybe it was just timing because of the lockout, but a lot of those guys just kind of stepped right in.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Biz]

So that was kind of like a weird time for it to all go down, but pre lockout, it was so rare.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Like, it was so.

[Patrice Bergeron]

But I think the lockout changed that because the new, you know, the new rules of cba, like. Of, like, it became a younger league as well. Right. With the rules and like the Cabs.

[Ra]

So, like.

[Biz]

Yeah, they needed those cheap players, eh? Yeah, yeah. A lot of the child labor.

[Keith]

Yeah. I mean, but that was 36 million, wasn't it? It was something.

[Whitney]

It was low.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I don't remember exactly the number, but yeah, the.

[Biz]

The. Like. Like the culture, like. So, like, Sullivan, was he fired or does his contract.

[Patrice Bergeron]

So he was. It was fired. And then Dave Lewis came in for. For a year and.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Load came in the following year, if I'm not mistaken.

[Biz]

And when he got there, could you sense it? Like. Like, that's our guy. Like. Yeah, yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I mean, so speaking about, like, Z and like, the culture that he brought in and. And the intensity, I think Claude was very, like, black and white, you know, in the structure. You. You either, like, do it as I say or you don't do it and you're not gonna play. So, like, there's a lot of that where there's no gray areas and there's no, like, ad lib and, like, trying to. So, like, it was a lot of, like, very simple system, but also very effective. And I think that's what we needed. We needed some structure at that time. You know, we're very laxative. Daisy Cole and a lot of, you know, guys cheating and a lot of, you know, cutting corners and. And he really, like, changed that aspect on the ice, and I thought that was. That was great. And again, I go back to. But yes, Clothe came in with that system and that culture. Z. But also the guys that came in after, like, the character that came in and. And the buy in that that was there from those guys, like, made the biggest difference.

[Biz]

What, like Lord

[Patrice Bergeron]

Gregory Campbell boy.

[Whitney]

Sean Thornton, parents. It was a tough team.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Like, wait.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

The crazy thing about those teams was that it was tough. And you'd say all these guys and then you'd be like. And Chara. Yeah. Who was the toughest of them all?

[Keith]

Yeah, it was crazy.

[Whitney]

But the 11th season, which we have to get into that a little bit, I. I think people forget the year before you're up three zero against Philly and then you're up three. Nothing in game seven. You lose that. So that had to create so much anger going into that next year with everyone and probably worry with Drew Julian a little bit.

[Ra]

Like.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

To get through that, to survive not getting fired.

[Biz]

That was the year before they won it.

[Whitney]

And then Philly lost to Chicago in the final.

[Keith]

Wow.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Is that first round or. Oh, my God.

[Whitney]

I would say it right here.

[Yan]

Philly. No, it wasn't.

[Ra]

It wasn't.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Right. Yeah, second round.

[Biz]

Yeah, we. We actually played you the. The year that you guys won it in the World Premiere Games at the start of the year.

[Keith]

Yeah, yeah, I was gonna ask you that, like, because every time we were a very tight knit group and every time we saw you guys get eight guys, deep ten guys. You guys always like that on the road?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, yeah, we were. That was, you know, it was great, especially those years was we wouldn't text each other, like, who's going where we'd go. We'd meet in the lobby and just like figure it out from there. And then we used to have like some big groups going out for dinner, which was awesome.

[Biz]

How Gil calls it, the bag chuckers. You get there, you chuck your bag in the room and you're right down the lobby.

[Patrice Bergeron]

That's exactly right.

[Biz]

Him and Chris Mason.

[Yan]

What was the young Tyler Sagan like on that team? Because I don't know if you guys remember, but he was a rock star in this city. I've never seen anything like.

[Biz]

It was him and Grogger.

[Whitney]

Yeah, yeah. And Marshy was running around with him too.

[Yan]

Shirtless. The greatest bar. You'd see the P everywhere.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. Sags was. He was something. He was so much talent. I mean, obviously came in and lived on his own at 18 and like he was living it up for sure.

[Yan]

Got the boot out of the apartment quick, right? Oh, yeah, I think he did.

[Biz]

He got a booted.

[Yan]

Yeah, I think so.

[Keith]

I didn't get his first in last month.

[Biz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're keeping the deposit.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, he was. He was wild, but he was, man. Him. Was he talented? He was. He was a good player and obviously it was. I'm sure he would say that. Like, I think it was a great thing for him to be on the veteran team as well.

[Biz]

Oh, yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Guys. And like, you know, to help him, help him out. I know Soupy was huge for him at that time to. To help him getting his way around and, you know, probably got him out of trouble a few times as well. So.

[Keith]

Yeah, for you having clothed in like a French coach, were you like the buffer for the team? Because he used to be hard on guys, right?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, he was hard on guys. He was. I want to say he was demanding, but he was fair. I go back to that. I think he was. He wouldn't like. I think you knew why you weren't playing or you, you know, you know, this is why. And he would have meetings and tell guys, you know, as. As it is. And you know, sometimes it's as. As we said before, you know, like, there. There's some relationships sometimes that are harder to the gap, I guess because of like the. The difference in. In opinions. But like, at the end of the day, like, you knew why you weren't part of the. The lineup. And this is what I need need from you if you want to get back in. And. But yeah, was I a buffer? I think he was good with like, meeting with us and, and like sharing what he thought and like for us to. To kind of. So I think like, we were the bridge for sure and I think we were selling what he was selling.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Biz]

You know what I mean?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Like, so I think like, you have to.

[Whitney]

You're buying in that you have to be in sync.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Like, if you're not with your coach and like your leadership group is like behind your back, like talking crap, like, obviously that's just not like, how it's going to work. Right. Then there's going to be some. Some issues. So like, that. That was really important for him to. To share that with us. And, And I thought, you know, for us, I think we did a good job of like buying in and really selling to the guys. Like, this is. You know, there was some back then, like, I don't know if you remember, but like, you had to wear a suit even on the plane and like.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

So even on the road we had to wear a suit on days off and like. Yep. And that was like, now, like, that all changed. But like, some guys were like, we're in Florida. We're wearing like a super jacket on top.

[Yan]

Can we.

[Whitney]

From the guy, Montreal. That was like, it weighed like 30 pounds.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Dominated.

[Biz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Whitney]

In Lauderdale.

[Biz]

My suitary wool suit. Special three piece.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Just absorbing. You're at. What's that bar in Florida called? Elbow Room.

[Keith]

Elbow.

[Biz]

You're at the Elbow Room, just sweating your dick off your wolf suit. Grinding on the dance floor, paying cash for booze now. So you guys were kind of like the Leafs before the Leafs. You guys blew that, that three one series lead against Montreal. We just talked about the one you guys blew to Philly. So going in that next year, as Whit mentioned, like, you guys had this massive chip on your shoulder.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Was that up like a different level?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, I think it was. I mean, it was definitely a learning experience for us to. You know, I think it was. It could have been our first or second time going to second round.

[Keith]

Right.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Like, so, like. And to lose obviously, the way we did, there's. We had no business losing that game. We're up three nothing in game seven. Right. So to go back to that series that we lost, Cratch, like, we were up, I think three nothing in the series of three 1. And CRCH. Richie hit him and. And broke his wrist. And that hurt us. We lost our momentum there as well, losing him. But that being said, we should have won that series. But yes, I think, like, to go back to the world juniors and like, you know, losing the game the year before and the guys coming back the next year with. With Avengers, I think that was definitely true for. For our team. And yeah, you know, I remember having a lot of early meetings and in. In. In August, even with Z and like, Claude and. And really trying to come up with like, a plan and like, this is how it's going to be. The issue. It was. It was definitely like a different, like, feel a lot more business. Like. And like, all right, like, we. We can't mess this up because if we do, like, we're, you know, we're gonna break. They're gonna break up the team, you know.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

The course might be gone. The core is gonna be gone. Like, and that was. You know, I'm gonna fast forward. But like, like in 2011, like in. In. In the first round, we. We were almost. We went to game seven against Montreal and we were supposed to win the. Win that series pretty easily. And then we went to game seven. So, like, we lose that game.

[Whitney]

I remember if that's done, it's. It's done.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Holy. That was. That was. The guys won it.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Wow.

[Biz]

So you guys went to seven against Flort.

[Whitney]

Not winners. Tim Thomas made a save on Gianta, I think, in overtime of that game.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Game. I don't know if that was overtime, but. Yes, that. Two on one, you mean.

[Whitney]

Oh, my God.

[Biz]

Yeah, it would have put them ahead.

[Whitney]

Yeah, it was Timmy.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Like, there was so many saves like that. Like, the amount of saves that he made during that playoff run is insane. Like, crazy saves too. Like what?

[Biz]

Like, so. So was Tim Thomas with the team the year prior?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Didn't Tuka play Though was Tuka in that?

[Yan]

I think Tuka played that year. And then they went into the next season. It was like kind of a goalie competition. And Thomas played so good. It was like, all right, this is your net. Okay.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Y, you might be right. I, I, I wasn't sure on that.

[Biz]

What, what was his, what was his demeanor? He kind of looked like a bit of a beer league goalie because of his style, but, and, and he seemed like he probably wasn't the skinniest guy either, but could he get it done?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Oh, yeah, the battle fly. We called him like the battle fly. Yeah. Because there, because it wasn't like we didn't know what style it was. It was just like as long as the puck stayed out of the net. Right.

[Keith]

Like that was his instead of butterfly fly.

[Biz]

Yeah, that just kicked in, man. That just kicked in.

[Whitney]

That is unbelievable.

[Biz]

What's a battlefly?

[Whitney]

He's like this, he's like, no, instead

[Keith]

of butterfly, he's just battling. But he could be butterfly. He could be.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, exactly.

[Whitney]

He was so get it.

[Biz]

No, I get it. But it's like, is there such thing a battlefly?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I don't think we put that much thought into it.

[Biz]

Is there a battlefly?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Maybe Tim Thomas going to come up

[Biz]

the B. Who's, what's a battle fly?

[Patrice Bergeron]

It's not a real thing.

[Whitney]

No.

[Biz]

Yeah, it's just you. It is.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I think we made that up. Yeah.

[Whitney]

So Horton scores ot, right?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

And then I don't remember second round, but third round. I we've said before on the show, best one nothing game of all time against Tampa. Incredible game at home. Horton scores the winner in that, I believe.

[Yan]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Didn't Bugsy take a puck in the face in that? He.

[Whitney]

No, that was the finals with Pittsburgh. Okay, but, but then you get to the finals and you lose both in Vancouver. And I remember in Vancouver was so good that year.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Take us through kind of like the team like on the way home. And, and basically the, the fact is you just pounded them every home game that series. Like, did you guys know going in this thing is so far from being over going into game three?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I think we did. I mean, so to go back to like the first round, we were down two nothing against Montreal.

[Whitney]

That was the Ference middle finger.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. So like we're down two nothing heading to Montreal for game three.

[Whitney]

Oh, you lost the two home.

[Yan]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Dude.

[Patrice Bergeron]

So that was wild. And so we had that and we won the series. So like we had that in our.

[Whitney]

Okay.

[Patrice Bergeron]

They're like, hey, we've done it before. Like, so we kind of had that speech. We're being like, hey.

[Whitney]

And we did it on the road. Game three and four.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Exactly. Now we're going home. And like so I think we had that confidence of like we've done it and we've been through so much during like that was a wild, you know, run. I mean all the playoff runs. When you go all that all the way, it's a pretty wild in the long, you know, journey. But we went seven the first round. We won the Philly in four seven again against, you know, Tampa. So like it's not like we. It was an easy way there. So I think like that experience and that. That knowledge of like, hey, like it's not going to be easy. Like we have to find ways was in our minds and you know, we got home. Obviously it's a much better feeling than going game three.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Road. Right. So like at least we're like, all right, let's just get yet. Let's just do the job at home, stay in the moment and. And. And go from there.

[Whitney]

And just beating the. Out of the.

[Biz]

The one thing I remember from. From talking to Kevin BX about that is how like confident they were until game seven at home. He said that he could sense the tightness in the locker room. Now you guys going on the road for game seven after forcing it to game seven, like, what was your guys demeanor? Were you guys like, were playing with the house's money? Were you guys super confident or were you guys also tight knowing that that man, one game to decide whether we're Stanley cup champions or not?

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, I think it was the opposite. It was more like, let's go play hockey. Like it was, it was a pretty cool.

[Biz]

You had that feeling you guys were going to take it down.

[Whitney]

I felt this one at home, like it's got a little like on the

[Patrice Bergeron]

road when you go on the road. I think the fact that we're on the road, as crazy as it sounds, like you're with the guys and like you just have that. You go for dinner tonight before. And we actually had it a team dinner at the hotel we just stayed in because like it was crazy over there in Vancouver.

[Biz]

Oh yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, it was wild, you know. Yeah, we'd get booed. We'd like, with like some restaurants didn't want to like host us for like for dinner. Like it was pretty wild, but it was, it was awesome at the same time, you know. But that being said, we had that team dinner and I remember sitting with Rex, Mark Recky. And just seeing this demeanor of, like. Like, he grabs a glass of red wine, and he's, like, so relaxed, and I'm like, all right. You know, like, this. This was. And then I just asked him, I was like, have you been in game seven of the finals before? And he goes, yeah, twice. I was like, and you won both. And I was like, all right.

[Whitney]

I like that.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, he was so. I don't know. I just like the way that he was like. And it was his last game, right? He was retiring after that. So, like. Like, just to see him, like, yeah, just, like, enjoying the moment and, like, almost being like, hey, let's enjoy dinner now, and we'll worry about the game tomorrow. And we'll.

[Whitney]

You know, it's pretty cool, like, to see a veteran who done it and be like, oh, he's.

[Keith]

He.

[Biz]

He's twirling his wine glass.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Rex smelling all the sends it. You know what I mean? And I'm, like, both freaking out beside him. I'm like, all right, I guess battle.

[Yan]

That was a huge cup final, too, because it was the first time in a while that it was a US Team versus a Canada team. And then there was all the hate with the Bruins and the Canucks, like, Burrows, your finger. Remember?

[Biz]

Oh, there was a lot. I think they called them the Sadine sisters at some point.

[Yan]

Remember Mar.

[Keith]

Oh, my God.

[Yan]

Aaron Rome hitting Horton and knocking him out of the series.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Horton poured the water on the.

[Keith]

He brought the water from Boston.

[Biz]

What was. Did you, like. Did you know that was going on?

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, I didn't know the water, but the hit on Hy. That. Honestly, that. That poked the bear a bit. Like, that really kind of turned the right and.

[Yan]

And the next one was, like, 8:1, wasn't it?

[Patrice Bergeron]

The guys, like, we. Yeah, it was like, almost like, all right, we're. We got to do this for hoardy now, you know? Like, it was. And we had Timmy. Timmy stood on his head, like. And he had, like, the hit on Sadine, like, one of the games. Oh, yeah, he was.

[Whitney]

When he was looking up at the puck or something.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, exactly. But having him, like, you know, like, his demeanor also, like, just always so confident and, like, would you guys ever

[Yan]

be like, what the Is this guy doing? He just skated out to the blue line to hit guy.

[Patrice Bergeron]

It was almost amazed with, like, his competitive drive and, like, his will to win. And, you know, he's. You look at his career, man. Timmy, like, he's been, like, through so much, and he's overcome so Much adversity and, you know, almost like, had to prove people wrong almost all the time, right. Just to be like, all right. To eventually become, like, a number one goalie. And then when he was given that chance, like, he freaking ran with it. Like, it was pretty impressive. So, like, the confidence that we had, like. Like having him having Z behind, like, in the back end, like our. Yeah, I feel like our structure helped us also. But, like, Vancouver was. They were wagon, too. They were a good team. Like, it was. It was a battle. It was.

[Yan]

I feel like Dennis Seidenberg is such an underrated part.

[Patrice Bergeron]

He was credible if he wore regular skates.

[Whitney]

His son is, like, really good. And his son apparently is a complete wagon of a human, too.

[Patrice Bergeron]

But he's.

[Keith]

Sides is a machine in the white room. What?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I think he told me he was 12 or 13. I talked to him the other day. He's like 12 or 13. He's close to 200 pounds already. Holy. Just

[Keith]

right. Creatine at age two.

[Whitney]

Exactly.

[Keith]

So was it game six? They beat him eight. One.

[Yan]

It was game. I think it was game four. Threw a hissy fit that my dad didn't get me.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Three or four were there in the.

[Whitney]

Yeah, yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

It was back to back.

[Keith]

Because then they brought in Schneider, right? Was that game six? They brought in Schneider, but that must have.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I think he came in okay. But that was just like, during the game, right?

[Keith]

Yeah. Started every loose started and then he came in. But even going to, like, a game seven where the goal is being switched, like doing that to a goal, especially a Hall of Famer like Lou being able to get in his head, like, that's got to be a good feeling for you guys going into seven.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, no, for sure. I mean, I. I think at that point, you're. You know, you want to rack up the. The goals to kind of like, get in the other team and the other goal he's had. But that being said, you know, they're professionals. I mean, Lou's been around for. For a long time at that point.

[Whitney]

And you're like, we're gonna win one road game.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Exactly.

[Whitney]

Not. We've lost three. Like, we're due.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, and there were tight games, too. You know, it weren't. They weren't blowouts in Vancouver.

[Whitney]

Yeah. One of them was, I think, Burrows and OT early.

[Patrice Bergeron]

There's. There's an OT first one, I think. And then lapierre had a game winner on game two, and in the third game, I'm not sure who got the game winner.

[Whitney]

Yeah, that's true. Where you were blowing them out at home and then they're close there. It's like, guys, they were like, hey,

[Patrice Bergeron]

we just have to go out and win one. And you're right. Like, it's the. And I. I can. I can see it on from the V. The Canuck side, where they're like,

[Yan]

you know, like, game three was eight one. Game four was four nothing.

[Whitney]

Either way, not close. Game six.

[Yan]

Game six was five two. So another. Another one.

[Whitney]

That is. That is nuts. I mean, what an amazing run that was, though. And for you just to like, CZ raise the trophy, kind of an all time screaming. It just had to be just such an incredible feeling with those guys that. That had done it together for. For a long time. And we're so close to being broken up.

[Keith]

I guess kind of the first crew after they won that we heard to

[Whitney]

go because it was bar steward. That was because of barstool. That was legit barstool. Like just port noise, getting pictures saying Marshawn. Saying Marshawn. Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

You know, they got the call after two weeks.

[Whitney]

Probably go.

[Yan]

Go home.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Go home, guys. Leave this city. Yeah, it's time to. So I guess, like, authority got a call from. I don't know if it's Cam or Sweens or whoever, but like, oh, back then was Peter Sorelli, but I don't know who called Tory, but like, hey, make sure you talk to Margin Shags and tell them to leave the town. Leave the city. So I guess Marshy told me that he's like, you know, I was kicked out of Boston party anymore. I would have gone another week.

[Keith]

Remember his voice singing Black and Yellow? It was like.

[Patrice Bergeron]

But he was mangled gold. I didn't realize he was. Yeah, when I called him out on that, I was like. Then he started singing.

[Ra]

I was like, all right, let's.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Let's move on.

[Whitney]

He's. He's blacked out again.

[Biz]

What was the story behind that? What was like $120,000 tab or something?

[Whitney]

Something ridiculous authority was telling us about that. And Foxwoods or something like that was.

[Biz]

That comped.

[Patrice Bergeron]

So, like, there is the bottle of Ace of Spades that was like 80 or 90 grand that they comped. So it's not like, like, yeah, wow, still a lot of freaking money for a party. But, yeah, we didn't pay.

[Whitney]

So it's.

[Patrice Bergeron]

It's.

[Whitney]

It's hard because you just had such a long career. So, like, we could talk more about that. But then, you know, there were some heartbreaks for you. Obviously, we haven't Even mentioned the gold medals in 10 in Vancouver and. And Sochi. But with the Bruins, like, that lockout shortened season, that was the year that it was like, this guy's playing with a punctured lung and what you went through and that heartbreaking game six loss. They got the two goals quick. Was it true you weren't gonna play game seven?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, I don't think I could have played. It was too bad. I was.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Because at that point, I was at the hospital and I. They had to do, like, to have. I had to have surgery on the. Well, but the lung to get back up because I was. It was collapsed at, like.

[Whitney]

How did that happen?

[Biz]

Yeah, how's it. How'd that happen?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Oh, my. I broke my ribs in game two or whatever, and then I kept playing, and eventually, like, the ribs. I punctured my lung.

[Whitney]

Jeez.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Who got you?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I couldn't even tell you. Like, it just started from, like. Like, a weird play. Like, I think it might have been C Cbrook. Like, he kind of. I was trying to shoot and I was off balance and tried to push me, and I fell on the ice and I fell awkwardly, and I was like, oh. And I. I think my. That's when it broke.

[Yan]

Well, you had a separated shoulder, too, at the time.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, that was later. That was like, game five. Oh, geez.

[Biz]

Okay, this is biz.

[Whitney]

After one hike.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Just couldn't do the podcast with the airborne operation.

[Whitney]

When the rib punctured the lung, did. Was it like, Like.

[Biz]

Or were you.

[Whitney]

Did you feel that right? I don't even know.

[Patrice Bergeron]

It's weird. Like, I felt like something poke. Yeah. Like, you know, like a sharp pain, and then it just went away. So I was like, I'm fine. And eventually. Yeah. So.

[Whitney]

Jesus. I mean, that is like. But that team was so good, man. That Chicago team was incredible.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Whitney]

Like, that was their second, I think.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They had a good team. I. It was. It was tight, though. You know what I mean? Like, it's hard to, like, at that point, you know? Like, it's anybody's game. But they. I mean, kudos to them. But I remember where I was.

[Biz]

I was in Vancouver and I was. I was like, walk. Walking by a bar, and they had the game on, like, at the. At the end, and then they went bang, bang. Who got the first one? Bickle and Bolan.

[Ra]

Is it those?

[Whitney]

Yeah. Was like. I think Boland even, like, almost thought it was. He didn't think it was Gloves. Like.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Just got the winner. What would Be the winner.

[Yan]

Kind of broke up the core after that, though. That's when Sagan got traded right after that dude.

[Whitney]

That was. After that.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Was it that year.

[Yan]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

I'm not mistaken, huh? We haven't asked about Craichi, though, who we got to do a sandbagger with. Great guy, like, playoff performance. Oh, my God, that guy in the playoff.

[Keith]

He was a machine.

[Whitney]

Playoffs, but it was always like. Like, you look at Stanley cup championship teams in Pittsburgh, and it was two great centermen. So, like, it was always, you know, you never were together unless it was power play. Right. But you just knew he had his own line. You had a line, and that's kind of how you always knew he'd be ready to go in the biggest games.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, I mean, he was like. I don't know. I think it's his demeanor for. For Crutch. Like, he was always. Never too high or too low. He's like that for anything in life, by the way. Like, he's so, like, laid back and such a great guy, but, like, it's his talent. It's just the way that he would slow the game down. Obviously, him and Luch and Hordy, who was a menace on the ice, right. They were like, a pretty amazing trio for. For a long time. So, like, it was. It was great to have him. You know, like, I. I said that many times, but, like, obviously we were competing, you know, like, being both Sandman playing on the same team and, like, in a way, like, competing for ice time. But we never felt it that way. We never really had that.

[Whitney]

That.

[Patrice Bergeron]

That sort of, like, unhealthy competition. It was always about, you know, like, you know, they would have a good moment, a good game, and I was always extremely happy for him. Vice versa. Like, Chris was always great with me and always a lot of respect for each other, and I think that helped also, like, kind of for the rest of the team to realize that, you know, like, we can all be, you know, ourselves and. And be successful and individually and, like, that's gonna. As long as we're, like, bringing it collectively. And I think that that's spoke volume for the rest of the guys that, you know, like, don't.

[Whitney]

They're not bickering.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Don't complain about exactly, like, what you're not getting or what you want. And it's more. It's always about, you know, the team. And Crutch was really good with that throughout his career. He was always taking whatever ice time and whatever minutes that he was getting and. And making the most of it. And, and I always respected that. And he was an amazing teammate and

[Keith]

obviously player just like, I'm sure you don't want to talk about yourself that much, but like, like I think you, Barov, kopitar, like these two 200 foot players that just do everything right. But also if you guys wanted to, you could have had a hundred points every year if you just cheated the game like some guys do a little bit. But what's kind of like you're in even with Kre learning from you. What was kind of like your going into a season for you to have a good year? Was it a certain amount of points or. I wanted to be the best defensive player because you did both so well.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Well, yeah, that's a good question. I never really set like goals for myself as far as like points or statistics. I think I was always trying to worry about, you know, the team success and like, that's how I would like, I guess rate my game, you know. And I always felt like I wanted to bring more to anyways. I always want to improve and like felt like there's always, you know, another level to get to or like other players that you're like, oh my God, I, you know, they're able to do this, let's try to work on that. Or they this. So like, you know, I've, it was maybe based on my overall game, like if I was able to be strong on the face off, it was always to me like it was all. It's always been a game of details.

[Keith]

Yep.

[Patrice Bergeron]

And if my details were good, like the rest was taking care of itself

[Whitney]

and like, like the junior coach almost said. Yeah, right. It was, it goes back a long way.

[Ra]

Wild.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Because like if you think about it sometimes, like, you know, like you're, you're, you're not scoring for like five, six, seven games. And now that's when you, you're being asked about it and that's when it gets in your head a little bit more. You know, like, I think like it's, it's one of those things where you, if you think about the end result and you think about scoring goals, you're never really going to get there because you don't take your, take care of your details. But if you always worry about your details, winning a face off, making it, you know, getting the puck out when it's time to get the puck out, giving, making a nice pass when it's time or shooting once, you know, you're always going to event or have a good forecheck eventually you're going to be in the right place at the right time because the puck's going to find you because you're, you know, doing the right things. Right. So, like, I feel like that's, that's something that I've always kind of preached was for me to take care of my details and the rest of my game will follow. And, and, and then it's more on the collective side where, like, you know, I wanted to make sure our PK was good, our face offs, you know, that's for my team. Like, I want to make sure, like, I'm effective for them. Like, so that way was how I would rate my, my game for the most part.

[Whitney]

If you don't, probably young kids for sure need to hear, right.

[Biz]

Oh, for sure.

[Whitney]

So much put into stats and the money and I get it and you understand, like, where they're coming from, but it's like, God, there's gonna be a lot of kids who have to become different type players. Yeah. Play for a long time.

[Patrice Bergeron]

You know what's funny too, I think, like, it's when, like around the years that, like 2011, in those years when we had those guys that, you know, as I said, the, the, the glue guys and the guys, you know, that, that really bought in the things that we would say to the young guys was, you know, if you win, no matter what your role is, you're buying yourself like another four or five years of your career legit. Instead of like, thinking about the individual stuff and like, maybe scoring 20 and then I'll get a better contract, think about, like, winning with your team and doing whatever it takes to. And I think, like, the Panthers is a good example. Right. Got A.J. greer and these guys are like, like, came in and, you know, played tremendous minutes at the end and like, really were effective.

[Biz]

Now there's headlines. AJ Greer is going to free agency. Like, like when. If he hasn't played for the Florida McCarron. Yeah. Like, just like. Yeah. Any type of success, you. Yeah.

[Whitney]

Like almost all of a sudden the rest of your career, it's like, hey, we're bringing in a cup champ at the deadline.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Exactly. And a gamer and a guy that's successful winning the chips. You know, the, the game's on the line.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Were you a big video guy? Would you watch video after games to, like, study more and more or were you just going back on the ice and applying the.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I was watching my shifts by the end of my career, like, a little bit more. I, I, I, I felt like I was a Pretty instinctual guy. Like, I was trying to, like, I. I knew if I had a good game or a bad game, there's games I didn't want to watch. But, like, I think for the details and, you know, like, there's. There's things that I, you know, Face Offs was really something. I was using a lot. The video. But yeah, for. For, like, I couldn't stand the iPads on the bench. Like, for me, I feel like takes away my. My instinct and. And like, listen, like, I was. I was on the ice. This is how I saw it. Like, even if you show me, like, from, like, yes.

[Whitney]

Full motion.

[Biz]

And you're. And you're. And you're. Now you're like, you're. You're in your own head about the last shift as opposed to letting it go.

[Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I think like, this. Well, this was open maybe, but it's hockey. Like, it's not like football where you have to run your routes. Like in hockey, like, the next shift is not gonna be the same. The positioning is gonna be different. The guys won't be in the same area. Like, so, like, you have to read and react and, like, use your instinct for the most part. So I get, you know, the. The video and, like, the. The iPad and, you know, it could be helpful once in a while, but to me, it's like, to a bare minimum, Like, I mean, I don't want to bash anyone that does it. It's more for myself. It didn't work.

[Whitney]

I guess I kind of wish we started with 13 and 19, finished with 11, but, like, obviously 20, 19.

[Biz]

Here's your sandwich.

[Whitney]

Yeah. There was so much that went into that, though. I mean, like, you.

[Biz]

You.

[Whitney]

You wrote St. Louis in game six, right? And you're going back home. Big Z's got the broken jaw, which must have fired you guys up so much. These playing with the A bubble on. He's got a broken jaw. Many. Like, a lot of Z talk right now, I guess, with Braden McNabb, kind of take us through that. That game and that year, I guess, because I remember it was the conference finals. I was on a golf trip.

[Biz]

Needed Marky.

[Whitney]

You swept Carolina, right? Yeah. Needed Rex coming back.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, we sure did.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Biz]

Brought out.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Should be on the road, I guess.

[Whitney]

Yeah, it should have been on the road. Don't.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, I mean, first of all, the. The season was.

[Ra]

Was awesome.

[Patrice Bergeron]

It was a great year. It was a lot of fun. That run was. Was special. As you said, we. We swept Carolina and honestly, like, and, you know, we lost fair and Square. But like, to, to have that big break was maybe not the greatest thing for us. Yeah, we, we were, you know, on the road, you have the momentum going, then you have like 10 or 11 days and it was like, at the time it's like, it's nice because you can rest, but also it's, it's a long time in between, you know, series. But that being said, you know, when you're game seven, doesn't matter. You've played six before, so, so you should be, you should be ready. Obviously we, you know, like, we, we didn't just didn't play. We just didn't, you know, we had a good start of that game and,

[Whitney]

and great start of that game.

[Patrice Bergeron]

We should have scored a couple actually. Biddington stood on his head, made some great saves and I think that kind of took that first goal, obviously took the, the win out of us, and then we couldn't really recover and, and, and that was, that was it. So I mean, obviously if we score, you try to get it back. Sometimes you, you look back. I mean, I, I, I said that many times, I think, like, of course, like the championships and you know, the, the, the things that you're able to accomplish as a team, you know, that's what you look back and, and, and you appreciate. But the losses, they hurt. Like, it's, it's hard to, you know, to, to, to go through that. So it's, it's obviously still something that is a sensitive subject, but like, it's at the same time you have to be proud of what you've accomplished still as a team and to get all the way there and like, hurts more

[Whitney]

than like almost the winning.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. Y, yeah.

[Biz]

Well, you try to think a little bit about legacy too. Imagine being able to bring the Boston Bruins to Stanley Cups. Like, yeah, you know, I may, I don't maybe not you because the person you are, but my mind would have wandered a little bit being like Crosby was able to get three of them, you know, like, yeah, yeah, those types of guys. And I put you in that category. So to get there and to be so close. But hey, at least you get to say you won one of the two. Game seven of the Stanley cup finals.

[Yan]

You've been. Legacy is just fine in Boston. Like, we love you. I would take a bullet for you need some. Someone killed. I'm your guy. Like, we, we would do anything.

[Whitney]

Brady too. So he's got two guys he could go to jail for. But when you shut it down and this is fast forward a couple years, like the hug with Marshawn. Like, I, I didn't think you were retiring. You knew, though, huh?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, I knew.

[Whitney]

You could have kept. You weren't. You were still there.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, I mean, I, I, I'm coming back next year anyways.

[Keith]

Vegas will take you.

[Biz]

Oh, yeah.

[Whitney]

No, but, like, mentally, yeah, I think

[Patrice Bergeron]

it was, Yeah, I was, I was at peace with, like, everything I, I did. The, the experiences I've, I've, I've had. I think my body was obviously, by the end, kind of getting, you know, I, I herniated my disc a couple years before my last year, and then I did it again before the playoffs. Like, there was a lot of signs of, like, overused, you know, like the hips and all that. And it's not that it wasn't like, I still could have played for sure, but, like, I also looked at my kids and I was like, I actually want to run with them. I always show. I want to, you know, grow up. Them to grow up and have me around and be able to actually play and, and, you know, and being able to be active.

[Whitney]

So that was part, what, eight and under that point?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

My, I think he was seven, my oldest, so. Yeah. And I think, yeah, I think mentally I was, I was there. I was, you know, I had a great career, so there was not one reason really why I did it. It was more.

[Whitney]

Had you told the guys before that game?

[Patrice Bergeron]

No.

[Whitney]

Okay.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I did not. I said I told the guys. I never, I guess I told Marshy. I told, like, a lot of guys I knew from even the start of the year. If we go back to the, to the summer. I called Cratch to, to come back because I want him to, because it was my. I told him.

[Keith]

Wow.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Biz]

And, and do you think that that, like, like, had influence on his decision to come back over.

[Whitney]

I don't know.

[Keith]

Back?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I hope so.

[Keith]

Patrice Bergeron calls you and says, you got to come back.

[Whitney]

Cuz I'm on the next flight.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah.

[Biz]

So he was of the bagger.

[Whitney]

He played in check. I mean, he came back. He had 56 points, 70 games.

[Patrice Bergeron]

How wild is that? He played in the Czech League year before. And I spoke to him that summer. I said, hey, what are your thoughts? He said, I don't know. I, I might play one more year in the Czech League and, and call it. I was like, all right, I'm. I think this is my, this might be my last year. How about, like, it'd be one more sick. We do one more. Like, we go for one more we'll have a good team. Like, let's do one more run. And he was like, all right, let me talk. So I think he talked to his wife and like, he. He thought about it for a few days and then. Yeah, he said.

[Whitney]

And then you talked.

[Ra]

Wow.

[Whitney]

You said, don, I'm gonna call him. Like, is it right? Like, you had to kind of. Of.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. Well, at first. No, at first I was more like. So I. I told Sweens, I was like, I. I want to come back for one more. And then I was kind of asking, what's the situation with Cratch? He was like, well, I don't know. I haven't really spoken to him.

[Whitney]

And.

[Patrice Bergeron]

And yeah, that was kind of it. And then I was like, I'm just gonna call him and.

[Biz]

And then you guys win the President's trophy and have the. Was that the best regular season of all time?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, I know. Yeah.

[Keith]

So there was no truth to you wanting to retire to presume your acting career? Cuz I heard you used to make. You make. He used to make these videos making fun of the guys. I heard they were incredible.

[Biz]

Stayed underground though, apparently.

[Yan]

Bruce Cassidy told me you're in a movie that's coming out.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I am in a movie. Yeah.

[Ra]

This is.

[Keith]

This is your.

[Biz]

You're going to be the new Cam Neely Seab Bass for the.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, I mean, it's definitely not. I don't think it's going to be quite as, you know, something that you'll. You'll remember for the rest of your life. Like, cs. Like his line. I still remember his lines actually from that movie, but my line is a lot less remarkable. But yeah, I was in a movie called Driver's Ed and I think it's out now. It's on Amazon Prime. Thanks for the. Thanks, Mike.

[Whitney]

Checking that out.

[Yan]

Look, he knows my.

[Biz]

Oh, go ahead. Sorry.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, I was going to say I'm at the beginning of the movie too, so. Which is kind of wild. So when I cringed when I saw myself, oh, my God, what am I doing there?

[Keith]

But what were these videos you made? Making fun of the guys.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah. So that was so. Rookie party. We used to. To make like, you know, we. We'd have the. As we all know, like the rookies try to make him. Have him make a skit or sing a song. And I was before one of the rookie parties, at some point, I was with Marshy at dinner. I was like, what if, like, us, we do something? Like, what if, like us, like the older guys, like, we come up with something and, like, just chirp like, the. The team. And he was like, oh, that'd be sick. Well, but then he was like, how we're gonna do that? I was like, let's just make a video, like, and just, like, keep it on the wraps. And then at a rookie party, like, just when the guys are a few cocktails deep, like, was just, like, put it on tv, like, at dinner. And then, like, like, it was a big hit that first year. Then we just carried that on after that.

[Whitney]

Would you give it to the most in those.

[Patrice Bergeron]

So we do everyone. So it was like everyone had. You had to, like, do something for everyone almost, basically. And it kind of like, it's almost got to be like, do something for biz. I'd be pretending I was biz, doing some of the, like, the rituals that he does or, like, like, okay, pick it up on some of, like, being observant of, like, the guys and observing what they do around the locker room and for guys to, like, understand what. Who I am and then kind of, like, make fun of that, basically.

[Whitney]

In a good way.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Like, in a fun.

[Whitney]

We kept you a while.

[Yan]

Can I just ask one more? So I asked Tom Brady the same question, and I gotta ask you, like, you've meant so much to me, the people of Boston, for. For 20 years now. Do you have any message to them?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Well, I mean, I think it's. I feel the same way. Like, I've. I've. I was welcomed here when I was 18 years old, and it was a pretty special, special run. I mean, there's a reason why I'm still here and living here with. With my family. You know, my kids were born here, and, you know, I call Boston home, and. And, you know, it's been. It's been special. I think it really means a lot. Every time I. I. I'm able to have a conversation with someone, someone is, you know, on the street, is, you know, kind of shakes my hand and talk about what hockey has meant to them and what the Bruins has met to them, and it's always very special. I mean, sometimes it's kind of surreal. You don't really think about it all that much, but then it's always very special. And, yeah, it's dear to my heart. I mean, obviously, like, the people have been. Been awesome for. For all my time here, and it's been, you know, welcoming me with open arms, even though I couldn't speak English back then. It was, you know, it was. It was. It was cool. It's been a great journey. It's been so much fun and. And that's why it's so special to be a Bruin.

[Yan]

And just a funny story for you. Quick. So my dad used to have season tickets down below, like right behind the net. And I think it had to be 2007, maybe 2008. He was like, we're gonna move to first row balcony, right behind where the Bruins sit. Right behind where the Bruins shoot twice.

[Whitney]

Great seat.

[Yan]

So you can learn Patrice Bergeron's game. So all me and my three brothers, every game, we'd sit there and he'd be like, I. So Patrice Bergeron watch this kid the

[Whitney]

whole time, Smoke before the game?

[Yan]

Oh, yeah. Didn't work great for me. But it's crazy that, like, you had such an impact on Boston, where my dad would move our season tickets up to the balcony just because it was better to watch, like, how you develop the place.

[Ra]

So.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Oh, that's what. Thank you, man. It means a lot. That's. That's awesome.

[Whitney]

You did mention my last. You mentioned face offs a lot. Is there anyone who owns you? Anyone you had a tough time with?

[Ra]

There's a.

[Patrice Bergeron]

There's a lot of guys. I think, like, Playcanic had a. A good number on the turtleneck. Yeah, Sid was. Sid was.

[Biz]

Could he cheat more? Could certain guys cheat a little?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, but I can't really talk about that because I feel like I was cheating as well. So.

[Whitney]

Yeah, there's not many guys when you win the cell.

[Keith]

Like, I won the Salky every year. No one gave me a hard time.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, like, Sid was. Was. Was obviously like, we had some great battles. Jordan Stahl was really good.

[Biz]

Oh, he's a.

[Patrice Bergeron]

He's so big, Paul. Go, dad.

[Keith]

He was.

[Whitney]

Oh, yeah, he was.

[Patrice Bergeron]

He was getting solo. He was strong. He was a good player. Good on draws.

[Keith]

Yannick Perot, he was really good.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, well, my first couple years, I definitely. A lot of guys dusted.

[Whitney]

They were abusing you. 19.

[Biz]

Yeah, I got. I got one more. So you guys win the President's trophy. Marshaw, I. I'll never forget. I think he had a breakaway to end that series against Florida. And then fast forward a year later when you see that he gets traded there like at like 4 o', clock, an hour past the deadline. Were you in shock or were you aware, like, were you made aware that that was coming?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, I was. I was in shock. I wasn't. I wasn't sure. Like, I was kind of like. I feel like Marsh has been, you know, drafted with the Bruins. It was pretty much a Staple for. For the Bees and a face of. Of. Of the franchise. So. But at the same time, like, you look back, it's like, you know, it gives him an extra cup. And I know, you know, the way that he played another six years. Six years.

[Biz]

Like, he was more shocked that he saw a six year deal come over the.

[Whitney]

Yeah.

[Patrice Bergeron]

I think he was still riding that. The. That high of winning when he saw Sign that six years is like, I can play six more.

[Keith]

Why not?

[Whitney]

Well, thank you so much.

[Biz]

And you have a documentary coming out as well.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Oh, really?

[Biz]

Is that true?

[Patrice Bergeron]

Do I. No. Oh, this is it. Oh. Oh.

[Biz]

Oh, sorry. It was. It said Patrice Doc. As in like, we had a document for questions. I thought maybe. I thought.

[Keith]

Yes.

[Whitney]

He also thought that Leon Dreis had. Was coming out with a cologne because he googled him. He's from Cologne, Germany. Thank you so much, Patrice. Unreal guy. Unreal player.

[Biz]

Jeff, have any questions for us?

[Patrice Bergeron]

I don't know if I do. I didn't came prepared. No, we can wait.

[Biz]

Hey, you live with Marty Lapointe. Does he have more scars on his face or do you. Is he the one that has the. Doesn't he have a crazy nose?

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, Marty's actually like. He's jacked and he's like.

[Biz]

He's.

[Keith]

He looks like Bird man like that.

[Biz]

Oh, okay. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong guy then. Who was the guy who played in Philadelphia? He was a scrappy guy. Guy. Was it another lap point?

[Whitney]

Oh, you're thinking of.

[Ra]

You're.

[Whitney]

No, you're thinking of. Oh, my God. A little tough guy who ran around Philly. Oh, this is gonna drop. Point's got the white beard now. What the hell is his.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, yeah, actually, the. You remember the. Oh, you probably remember, but I was watching you. You know that game that. The prospect game. Yeah, like, you hit poot. You killed.

[Biz]

No, that was Dion, was it not? Oh, you went in.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah, that's right. So I remember that. That's. That's the one thing I do remember about you.

[Biz]

I was like, Pulio's agent came in the locker room after and was like, thank you so much for doing that. Yeah, that guy should never play hockey.

[Keith]

So you weren't playing in the game and he was.

[Biz]

But I was the MVP of the game. I was the MVP of the game. I scored on.

[Keith]

Because Don Cherry gave it out and

[Patrice Bergeron]

he liked the Rockham software.

[Biz]

No, I scored on Flurry.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No, but you made a name for yourself by doing that. Like you had a game.

[Biz]

I had a game brother.

[Whitney]

And he fought five months later as

[Biz]

an 18 year old defenseman. Six, seven. Let's keep talking about my, my almost. I was supposed to be Patrice Berger off. I was supposed to make them out of camp.

[Whitney]

Hell happened.

[Biz]

We wasted the good surprise on you, Patrice.

[Whitney]

Fifth round draft picking junior.

[Biz]

Oh, that's a wrap.

[Whitney]

Thank you very much.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Thank you guys. Thanks for having me.

[Whitney]

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[Yan]

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[Whitney]

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[Whitney]

Thank you, Patrice. I'll tell you, one thing he's not doing is hammering apple strudels the way Biz is right now.

[Biz]

Unbelievable.

[Whitney]

You know, I don't think that. That. That's a part of his diet.

[Ra]

Look at you. Just.

[Biz]

I would take eight zippers on the eye like Yoli for another one, and

[Whitney]

some just fell out of his mouth.

[Keith]

Scale of 1 to 10, biz 1 to 10.

[Patrice Bergeron]

How is it 8 zippers

[Whitney]

with food falling out of your mouth? Let's bring in Ra. Let's bring in our. Let's bring in our guy right now.

[Ra]

Hello, everybody. Welcome to ra's World, here on the Spitting Chicklets podcast. What's going on, boys? I absolutely hate this humidity. With dog. I would rather a foot of snow out my door than this humidity.

[Whitney]

That is the craziest thing I've ever heard. It's not even that hot either, Ra. But I'm talking. Even if it was worse than this snow, you'd rather have ac.

[Ra]

I do, but it's just like, I went outside a few minutes ago. The mugginess, just the stickiness. I know. I just. I much prefer the winter to the summer. I know I'm in the mid, but glad to see you boys did get to. To the Odyssey. I went for round two the other night myself. But when you were getting to talk about the crowd, I thought you were going to talk about the audience in the theater. Was there any things that would violate my. My, Zeus's laws in a movie theater?

[Whitney]

Yeah, I did, actually. I. I probably should have mentioned this. That. So we had, you know, the assigned seats, right? You buy your seats. We get in there, and like I said, we were a couple minutes late and we. So there's the two seats on the aisle, and then we're the next two in. We sit down, breeze right next to somebody. She's like, hey, like, are those empty? I'm like, yeah. I mean, like, we're late. So she just moved over one. So I took one of their seats, and she had one of ours. Well, sure as shit. About 10 minutes later, the people come in, buddy. I had the popcorn resting on my belly. I had. I had Lucy here. I had my phone over here. I had the penis palms on my knee, and I'm like, oh, sorry, sorry. I'm, like, grabbing all this stuff. And then she's. But she was wicked cool. She's like, no worries. I would have done the same thing. And I'm, like, getting over, like, some of the popcorn spills. I'm like, oh, oh. Like, buddy, I'm holding four things, two in each hand. And then I'm like, hey, sorry, is my phone there? I think I. I think you might be sitting on my phone. And she's like, no. And then she's checking, and, like, her husband's, like, looking over, and then I see my phone's in my hand. Dude. So I was a complete disaster. The people next to us and behind me were probably. If it was. If it was you already, you might have, like, attacked me. And I had my screen on. I had the.

[Biz]

Oh, full brightness and right in their

[Ra]

yap, because they're still selling out. I went to Coolidge Corner the other night, and, I mean, you know, there's very few, like, empty seats there on a Sunday night, which is just so real.

[Whitney]

There's no Monster Jam near there. Near Coolidge Corner.

[Ra]

Yeah. Definitely didn't have that. But, you know, I don't. I think you cannot go to a theater, not have it. At least one peck ahead. Head right behind us. Classic. You know, boomers. Like, there was a. There's an old Eddie Murphy stand up. And he talks about, like, people talking in the theater. Like, specifically, like, a woman asking her husband or her boyfriend, what's going on? This woman asked every five minutes, like, which. It's like, watch the movie. That's the plot. They're gonna tell you the whole time. And, like, you turn around, you stare at them. That. Because you don't want to say nothing again and draw attention and disturb other people. And it didn't stop the whole time. Like, one. One scene is like, dude, he's standing up in the movie. One of the characters practice. She's like, is he dead? And the guy's like, no. It's like, hey, what? Oh. It was infuriated. So we. Afterwards, I walked by him. He goes, buddy, you should do, like, the talk a lot during a movie, man. I just kept going.

[Whitney]

You gave it to the guy's wife? You gave it to the guy's wife?

[Ra]

I said, well, I said it to him because, like, you know, he's just

[Whitney]

answering the lady, like, yeah, we've all

[Ra]

been there, incessant the whole movie.

[Biz]

Like, I wanted you to call her a.

[Ra]

Every plot point. It's like that. That's why you watch the movie. It Explains itself. But before that, like, you know, like. And these aren't my rules. These are the theater rules. No talking. Shut your phone off. The typical rules. Dude in front of us picked his phone up. Now, eye level. Just literally. The studio credits are coming up at the beginning of the movie. He's got his. I'm like, oh, he's probably gonna shut off. He's holding it. There's a game there. It's like, not even the. The screen. And I was like, bro, can you put that phone down, please? And his buddy next to him. Him snaps his head back, gives me the Manson lamps. And I was like, what is that?

[Whitney]

What's the Manson lamps?

[Ra]

Like, that's a Sopranos line. He tries to give you the crazy eyes. You know, Tony Soprano says that to. Oh, God, the Richie April. He's like, don't you give me those Manson lips. Like, he tries to, you know, give you the bug eyes.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Ra]

I was like, what? I goes. I asked him to put his phone down, and I just like, buddy, you're looking at me. And he turned around. That was it. They didn't pull them solo.

[Biz]

RA Is just on edge walking in there.

[Whitney]

You should actually be hired by theaters to be like, you should beater police.

[Ra]

You know what?

[Keith]

You're like, the bike lane police. Like, Avery is to the movie theater.

[Ra]

But it's just, you know, it's. It's annoying, and it's gotten worse. I mean, I stopped going to the movies for years because. Because I. I figured I'm gonna get shot one of these days because. And again, it's not my.

[Biz]

What a way to go, though.

[Keith]

R.

[Whitney]

Like, what happened? Like, he said the wrong thing to the wrong guy at. At a Creed 7.

[Ra]

Yeah.

[Biz]

40th anniversary was playing solitaire before the Odyssey and just playing a game on his phone.

[Whitney]

Or was he watching a game?

[Ra]

I don't know. It was. No, not like a sports game. Like, I don't even know what monster truck phone. But, like, he. He was just sort of holding it there. It wasn't like he was shouting off of the main screen. And he didn't turn around. His. His buddy did. And I said. I said, please. I. I just said, hey, bro, can you put your phone down, please? Like, you know, I didn't.

[Biz]

He's watching the. The Grave Digger on the live stream from Gillette.

[Ra]

Truckosaurus

[Patrice Bergeron]

not playing.

[Biz]

I. I also want to do something in the theater. As soon as the. The screen goes, hey, everybody, make sure your phones are off. They give you the whole deal, okay?

[Ra]

Hello.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Everybody shut Your phone away.

[Ra]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's. That's the thing. It's like they tell you that and it used to be common sense, but you know everybody. So with this and. And it's not picking on young kids. It's just entitled people in society again. The boomers are as bad as could anyway. I could start to see why the millennials can't stand the boomers. That's like the biggest rivalry on the Internet.

[Biz]

That should be the next Odyssey movie is like. Like Millennium Verse Boomers and like that whole. The war. The war of the millennials.

[Ra]

I also went the show Friday. I saw this one, the Invite with Olivia Wilde.

[Biz]

Heard it was awesome.

[Ra]

Unbelievable, funny. Funniest movie. Heard of it.

[Keith]

Biz.

[Biz]

It's getting rave reviews. Seth Rogen. It's just four of them. And I think all of it takes place in an apartment. Apartment, right?

[Ra]

Yeah. Seth Rogen and Olivia Wild. They're married, miserable couple. I guess that might be redundant, but they invite their upstairs neighbors now for dinner. Edward Norton and Penelope Cruz, who still looks phenomenal and basically, like, hilarity ensues. I wouldn't want to spoil anything. Legit. Piss your pants. Laughing. There was like two other people in the theater being afterwards. We were like. Was like. We were like. Well, kind of all laughed at the same. We were like, talking to total strange. I think it goes. Was that. Was that as funny as I thought that? Like, it was. There's a couple, like, serious moments in it, but Olivia Wild, man, I didn't know she was this funny. Her and Rogan, they were like, like, like Abbott and Costello. Like the. Like the. The banter, like, the repartee they had, like, with the comedic lines and the writing was awesome. Legit. Hilarious. Yeah. If you. If things aren't great with the old lady, I would maybe recommend going to see it with that with her. If you haven't.

[Biz]

Or you should, because Penelope Cruz and. And Edward Norton, like, aren't they telling them to, like, get into, like, group sex and I don't.

[Ra]

I. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No, I. I don't know. I don't want to spoil any parts of the movie. That's why I left it vague. But they're a much more chill couple and they kind of, like just kind of get in this conversation. But legit. I don't know how much. How much it might have been improv because some of the lines that, like, Rogan come up comes up with but hilarious. Go see it. If you're looking for an actual. What's the name of it, it's called the invite.

[Whitney]

Any, any bad behavior people in that show?

[Ra]

No, that there was three of us in there because I, I went Friday on matinee over at the Garden so there's only three of us there. So fortunately I didn't have to brawl with two ladies in front in front of me. But highly recommend that moving along to. Well, sort of hockey related. Did you see this quote from the Vancouver mayor? I, I tweeted about it the other day. Oh my God.

[Whitney]

I saw this on the group chat.

[Ra]

This.

[Whitney]

I. I'm so happy you brought this up.

[Ra]

I. I couldn't believe it. Yeah, he, he was asked something interview. He says, as a fan, I want to see the Canucks have an exciting run and make it to the Stanley cup finals. His word, not my mind. And hopefully win in game seven in overtime. As the mayor of Vancouver, I do not want them to play a single game in the playoffs because the stress that it causes for safety. Like, what the fuck you talking about, bro? You're the mayor of a Canadian city with a team like even if you went game seven, that's like at least 12 games. You're going to have in your city millions and millions of dollars dumped in that people, you know, waitresses, bots. And there's so many people made money. And you're worried about safety, which obviously Vancouver has a riot here history. That's what your law enforcement professionals are for. You've already had a few of them. You, you know, call the monkeys. You could, you know, it's a huge deterrent.

[Biz]

We've had a horse get the Mounties downtown. I agree with you.

[Keith]

Put a couple speed bumps in.

[Yan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Biz]

That's how you stop them. That's how you slow them down. That's not going to create safety. It's going to create havoc.

[Ra]

When we've had, you know, the Red

[Biz]

Sox on there, there's not enough people at the hospitals to take, take up all those people coming in for apple strudels everywhere, just everywhere.

[Ra]

You put a couple like garrisons of cops out there and that's a huge deterrent. So I don't know, I just thought it was like a foolish thing for a male again of a Canadian NHL city to say safety. Dude, I, I don't know. The last riot actually was what, 15 years ago. Shut up, Bruins. The other one good news is is

[Keith]

they are not gonna make it to the stand.

[Biz]

They won't even come close.

[Ra]

Yeah, it'll be AI riot by the time they get back to the stand.

[Biz]

We Got a better chance of making it to the the finals of the Chiclets top.

[Ra]

Yeah but I was actually reading up on the history of riots in Vancouver. The last riot Prior to the 9411972 Little Band Called the Rolling Stones are in town. I guess there was a big riot. They got arrested arrested a bunch of people Also Tuma the 66th grade cup the night before the Saskatchewan Rough Riders were playing the Ottawa Rough Riders. There was a big Broadway.

[Whitney]

I love that they had the same names.

[Keith]

Two names.

[Ra]

And then the 63 Great Cup B.C. lions lost to Hamilton. There was another riot.

[Keith]

So yeah Vancouver's gonna the Hamilton Lions substantial.

[Ra]

Is there Hamilton?

[Biz]

No, they're the Tiger Cats. Another. Another lion. Another cat of the jungle.

[Ra]

And speaking of things that can't get out of their own way. The wnba man they. They. They just. They finally kind of got to this level. They've been scratching it in Clarence off for ages to get to and then the this the video. I don't know if you saw it with Paige Bacas like AKA Eminem and Angel Reese. They made a. A video of making a bet on the all star game and they have like legit cash paper and the league put shitted on their own Instagram. Now I don't know if they would joke it if it was fun but the way gambling is the way leagues are so sensitive about the fact that they made this video and they only tweeted it. I'll put it on Instagram whatever is absolutely bananas because the so much regulation. The last thing you won't even like joke about this day and age is having players in your league make making bets on stuff. So the wnba they you know they

[Whitney]

took it down or the players tweeted it.

[Biz]

The players did. Then they reposted it.

[Ra]

Yeah the WNBA posted their official account.

[Patrice Bergeron]

What's up is I. I haven't been following.

[Biz]

There's been other that's been going on too. Like there still seems like to be a Caitlyn Clark issue. Like why can't they figure it out? Dave's always talking about it and how like. Like they. I don't know. There seems to be like a still a Caitlyn Clark problem in a sense.

[Whitney]

I don't know how to treat the league seems. The league seems like it's like they get all. They get her coming in and. And all. You never see good headlines about the league. They got the other player. What is it? She's like talking like trans and and like women being only women could play women's Sports, then that's a story. And then other players are getting asked about that. It's like, I thought that it was all about like the league was getting better at basketball and the ratings were going up. Like, why is all you hear or

[Biz]

see any of the basketball.

[Whitney]

No, just all the bullshit.

[Ra]

All the. Yeah, but she, she did an interview with espn, you know, she, she gave her opinion and then it became this, this firestorm. And like, like what you said, like these, these gals are playing basketball and you got these, you know, reporters who do have agendas and they're asking like the same question over and over. It's like you don't see this in any other league. League, like just, just move on. You could disagree with her, but, you know, and then the owner of the Seattle team, there were two girls. Obviously someone hooked them up, but front row seats and you know, they had, you know, shirts supporting Sophie in some way. And the owner of Seattle went over and like accosted these like teenage girls, like, you know, talking shit to them. It's like crazy this. So they suspended the owner, whatever the hell that means. Like another fan spit on another fan. Like, it's just like I said, they, they. And I don't watch much wnba but sounds kind of highest level. Can you get the scores?

[Keith]

Buying the pattern.

[Whitney]

Can you get the scores on espn.com ra

[Ra]

yeah, but you can't get the NHL final scores on there. But they're not getting this discipline yet. Here's what they said. The wnba, we'll use this as an opportunity to re. Emphasize the players involved about wagering, joking about wager on games. They basically just like didn't take any rap for it. Like they're not going to get in trouble. And I'm not saying they should. But any other league, if two players did that, they. I mean, look what happened to Buddy in Austin, Ottawa. He didn't do anything illegal and lost what, half a season a couple years back. Oh, so I don't. I just. Like you said, it's crazy. This lead, they finally get somewhere and it kind of pissed it all away.

[Biz]

You talk about the Pinto parlay.

[Whitney]

Pinto parlay was a hilarious storyline and what made it great when we had him on. The kid just laughs at everything. I love Pinto parlay. I'm a big Pinto Parlay fan. That guy, he didn't give a.

[Ra]

Here was the quote. I was. Yeah, we recognized that the post, missed the mark, removed it shortly and addressed the matter. It's like, how did he. I don't know. Just to not have the will of all the foresight to know that that was going to be a shit show from the, from the jump, but either way. Did you guys see this post from our buddy strick out in St. Louis?

[Whitney]

No.

[Ra]

He said speaking to an NHL exec, he suggests if a player negotiates a no trade or no move clause in their contract, but then request to be traded prior to the expiration of the deal, the NTC should be voided and the team should be allowed to trade the player to any team in the league. That has to be the most boomer executive take from an NHL guy I've heard. Yeah.

[Whitney]

What's their punishment if you ask a guy to wave is no move because you, you want to trade them?

[Ra]

Exactly. Exactly. It's like, I mean, I know it's just like a mentality. I don't. I'm assuming it was probably a guy on the older side, but that's bananas, man. It's like a CBA you guys negotiated. It's all, it's all in the laws. And you know, if you don't like what a guy's doing, fine. But if they're doing it by the book, man, to say like, oh, you lose your rights and we could trade you anyway. Although biz, it would jazz the league up a little bit, I suppose. Right.

[Biz]

So I would just ask you guys, would you be okay seeing less like a rule in enforcing less mo. No move and, and, and no trade clauses?

[Whitney]

I would be okay. I would be okay. Or understand if at one point the league in the next CBA was like,

[Biz]

it's max, like limiting teams.

[Whitney]

It's max 3A team. I would get that.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Keith]

That'll be what's next. Like the league will want that next and they'll probably get it. And how many? My guess would be like five per team you can get. But I don't know. I hope everybody gets one like from

[Biz]

the player side of it. Like, I get it like it's, it's ruthless, it's cutthroat. You don't want to get traded your families to deal with from a fan element, it's kind of like, oh, all these like sick trades are getting nicks because. Because of these, these, these no move clauses. And I think that. Did they not say like 60, how. What percentage of players now have them to some degree in their contracts? Wasn't it like over 50% of guys now really out of entry level contracts?

[Whitney]

50 of the league has no move clauses.

[Biz]

I don't.

[Keith]

I think even though, you know, like a Modified, no trade or a certain amount of team. Some type.

[Biz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think progressively it's gone up. Maybe it's a reach like 37 or something, but they have a. They had a chart of year over year, how much it's gone up. Maybe 50s and over over exaggeration. But obviously entry level players can't have them in their deals.

[Yan]

Kind of crazy here. So just across different leagues. The NFL, eight no move clauses. The NBA two no move clauses. The MLB 35 no move clauses. The NHL 245 no move clauses and

[Keith]

there's what, 700 players in the league.

[Whitney]

So yeah, they're, they're gunning for this and they just redid the CBA day so that it's going to be a while before it can get changed.

[Ra]

Hey wait, did you see the, the, the clip of that. The woman's golf a chank she played on her caddy. Did you, did you hear about that?

[Whitney]

I didn't love it. I didn't love it. That's a not going to lie, Keith. This, this, this woman, Charlie hall, who's. She's.

[Keith]

She's the one who rips.

[Whitney]

Yeah, rip starts. It's unbelievable. And she somehow faked char. She, she faked that her caddy won $100,000. 100,000 on the lottery.

[Ra]

Lottery. A fake scratch ticket. One of those like fake scratch tickets that you know, makes someone think they won. Sorry, go ahead.

[Whitney]

No, no, you brought it up. Imagine he's like you

[Biz]

first TE of the next major. She's got a exploding ball. Funny, ain't it? Cunt.

[Whitney]

She stepped on. She stepped on a speed bump.

[Biz]

Can't say that's 8C word I got. Guess.

[Ra]

Yeah, Keith, it's one of those you could probably buy at a joke shop. And you know, it's a, it's a fake ticket. People think they won. But it was her caddy. I mean she probably makes anywhere from what, 50 to 100 times more dough. It just, it just seemed like like punch it down. This guy was running around, he thought he won like a hundred thousand dollars and one thing he's doing to your boys, busting balls and haha that you know, that's whatever if you a prank amongst the fellas. But I don't know, I thought it was, I thought it was kind of a low, low blow. She said oh he didn't care and maybe he didn't man. But I don't know. I thought it was kind of cringe actually Butcher grasp posted it.

[Keith]

Maybe they do pranks on each other all the time. And that's just part of their relationship.

[Whitney]

Yeah, true.

[Ra]

Probably should have said that in the press conference.

[Whitney]

True. She instead was like, suck on that one. You didn't win.

[Patrice Bergeron]

And I makes a triple.

[Whitney]

He's looking for a ball in the

[Patrice Bergeron]

face, like three cups out to the left.

[Ra]

Her. Her punishment. She's got to like, ride, ride with me in the coffee. 18 holes.

[Biz]

Exploding cigarette. Next one.

[Whitney]

Her next round, all about the stars in the galaxy. Like at granite links with Eichel.

[Ra]

Oh, I can't wait for Vermont next week, man. Stargaze. And all night. I don't know if you saw. Oh, it's been all the Netflix decidah murders doctor here on Netflix.

[Biz]

This cigarette tastes funny. Yeah, I put crystal meth in it. Thanks for the scratch.

[Whitney]

Shoots 58.

[Ra]

This little Phoenix cyclophene. You have to see what this stuff

[Keith]

finishes around in an hour.

[Ra]

Yeah, I'm not usually a murder guy. Murder dark guy. Murder porn, as they call. There's so many of them and I don't know, it's depressing, but I did watch that the Idaho murders one, like I said here on Netflix. And I mean, I didn't really follow that case because it was such a gruesome thing when those four college kids got killed. But no, I watched it. I, you know, tweeted, basically, if you watch this and think this, like, loser incel didn't kill these people, you're brain dead and you should probably log off. So naturally, my guy Jeff Nadu do. He's like, oh, let's debate this. I was like, Like, I'm like, you really think he. He put, like, a laundry list of reasons he thought so. He literally just DM me on Twitter. He wants to do a spaces later to have a debate about the conviction of this, like, psychopath.

[Keith]

You're in debate mode right now, so I think you should do it.

[Whitney]

Yeah, I don't even want to watch that because that story's so horrific. It's too bad.

[Yan]

It's too sad. But I watched it and it's like sometimes, like, I just. Just. A documentary doesn't need to be made about everything. And this one, it was too soon. Like, I. I'm watching it and it's like these kids are still healing from this. The best friends, the kids who were next door. Like, there's so many things that are still, like, ongoing issues that these kids are clearly dealing with.

[Patrice Bergeron]

And I. I don't know.

[Yan]

I just don't think this documentary.

[Biz]

What year. What year were the murders?

[Yan]

Believe it was around 2021 or 2022.

[Ra]

Oh, yeah.

[Keith]

Wait, so did they not find the guy? Guy?

[Whitney]

No, they got him and they. They got him like a million different ways. He like, didn't he leave the sheath there from the knife? And then he had. They pinged his cell phone. They had all these ring cameras.

[Yan]

It's like he was taking classes, like studying serial killers. Like it. It's. He. He was like, this was months and months and months of planning. They have every step. I couldn't agreed more with your tweet, Ra. Like, if you don't think this idiot did it, you are a moron.

[Whitney]

Is that the premise of the documentary? To get you to maybe second. Second guess?

[Ra]

No, no, no.

[Whitney]

Okay, definitely.

[Ra]

They definitely early on because, you know, they want you to watch all three apps. Like, you know, sort of bring someone up that might have. But then they make it clear that this person had nothing to do with it. And then when they build the case with this guy, you just like, honestly, gee, like when his face come up on the screen, I was turning. I was turning my face away. He just like such. Such a creep. Like, he. He had like what they say he had like eight contacts in his phone. Like when they. When they went.

[Yan]

Yeah, I mean, just thinking about how he ran by the room of the one girl.

[Ra]

Yeah, brutal stuff. But I.

[Biz]

Well, eight contacts, like only eight numbers

[Ra]

and yeah, this whole phone. Well, I. Well, from one sad talk to another, I was gonna make another recommendation for. For Netflix, but it's called the bombing of Panam 103. It's. It's a doc series. It's a. It's not a documentary. It's like a six pot movie. Oh, so I know. I didn't know. All right, we'll get Dhaka. No, if you look up what was

[Biz]

the one that was a huge hit years ago know it was on Netflix.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Making the murder King. Is it making a murder with the Dassey.

[Whitney]

Brandon Dassey that just wanted to go back and watch WrestleMania?

[Keith]

Yeah. He's like, well, I'd be home to watch WrestleMania. And they're like, nah, dude, you're gonna be a clink.

[Ra]

WrestleMania 700.

[Keith]

That's what I call Rick Nash. Brandon Dassey.

[Ra]

Ah, yeah, that. That and that was during, I think covert too. Keith. Everybody was cooped up and. Yeah, but anyways, it's a. It's a good docu series about an incident happened. Incident. A terrorist attack that happened back in 1980. Biswood. A plane, it was blown out of the sky and it crashed over Lockerbie, Scotland like, it was. They think it was intended to blow up over the ocean so there'd be no evidence. But it blew up over Scotland because they had to take a different route. And so all of a sudden, this plane just falls out of the sky in the middle of Scotland and, you know, killed everyone on the plane, obviously, but it also killed, like, Scots on the ground. So it gets into the investigation. They probably could have maybe shaved a pot or two off, but it's. It was, you know, you have the Scottish people, it happened on the land. And then they're trying to get info from like CIA and the FBI and it's all a bunch of hot. Like, they don't want to share info. They don't want to tell this. It's like, dude, you. Let's try to figure out who did this. But the invest. The investigation, it's pretty impressive. Like what. What they. They were able to. How they were able to track down who did it. It was just like an awful event. But it's. It's a good take. Give that a watch one more sad thing, and then we'll get to something fun.

[Biz]

Oh, for.

[Ra]

I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this. Last week, my classic recommendation was movie the Commitments. And the very next day, the guy, Glenn Hansen, who he was, he was in that movie. He died the next day in a motorcycle crash. He wasn't very known when the Commitments come out, but he was in the movie. Once that out 20 years ago, it won Oscar for best best song. It's like him and the other girl, like, he's like a buska. One of the dudes who, you know, plays a guitar on the street. The song, I think it's Fall, Falling Away or Falling Slowly. You've definitely heard. It's like the guy and the girl sing it like acoustic, quickly. But anyways, I. You know, I wanted to mention that he got killed in a motorcycle accident literally the day after the movie. So condolences to family, friends and everybody over the old side. The Ireland's been like a national morning right now. They're having a public wake and stuff, so. And finally, the classic recommendation. I got a fun one for you.

[Whitney]

Schindler's List.

[Biz]

Yeah.

[Ra]

Classic recommendation. This week, one of the funniest star spoof movies ever. A Walk Hard, the Dewey Clark Story.

[Keith]

Unbelievable.

[Ra]

It's.

[Whitney]

Heard of this.

[Keith]

You don't want none of this, Dewey.

[Biz]

Oh, it has to do with Johnny Cash, doesn't it?

[Ra]

Yeah, it's just. No, it's a spoof of All. All those, like, musical biopics. There was a run coming out every year. No, no, that's just the musical like, you know, Ray, Johnny Cash. Remember all these, like, music biopics?

[Biz]

Oh, I thought maybe Grease was in there too.

[Ra]

No, no. So they made this movie that spoofed all these. It's a. It. It's legit hilarious. It should get mentioned much more when you talk about the funniest movies ever. But John C. Riley, he plays the music star. And why I thought of it. He was actually in Charlestown the other night.

[Yan]

Keith.

[Ra]

He was. I don't know what he was doing in town. He was at the Tavern at the End of the World. I guess he got up and sang a couple songs with the band playing the other night. So anyways, yeah, walk hard.

[Biz]

What a talented guy.

[Ra]

Yeah, walk hard.

[Whitney]

John C. Riley.

[Biz]

Oh, he's just so. He's so hilarious. Play anything serious. He was in.

[Ra]

Some people say I look like answer solo.

[Biz]

He was in Gangs in New York, too.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Like, he just.

[Biz]

He's got a. He's got a pretty wide range.

[Ra]

He's. Yeah, he's very, very diverse. IMDb page, but yeah, boys, that's it. Gonna enjoy the Red Sox. They've been on a heater. What's it, 20, 28 and five in the last 33. So.

[Keith]

Yeah. How the Astros doing?

[Whitney]

I don't.

[Ra]

But it's literally. I've been wearing Astro for forever. I got about 17 hats. Don't worry. It's the. The right. There's a 47 on there right there. So don't worry about that. Keep the boys happy.

[Whitney]

When are you going up to Vermont?

[Ra]

Sunday. Going up Sunday.

[Biz]

Watch the speed bumps.

[Ra]

I'm. Yeah. Actually is a kind of a bumpy dirt road getting there, but, yeah, I'm very excited. I've been. Like I said, I've been. I've kind of had a. A boring bit of a summer, so I've been looking forward to this just to. I don't go out, chill by the lake for a couple weeks with the fam and. And, you know, few beers, some barbecue and whatever else else.

[Whitney]

Let's go. Love it. All right. I hope you have a blast. So we'll see you. So we're live from Vermont next week. Yeah, yeah.

[Ra]

How big? Bring the gear up. Absolutely.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Awesome.

[Ra]

Remember we. Remember we did the very first Spit and Chickens Dozen trivia game. Remember that one?

[Biz]

Oh, yeah. Oh, is that a few gummies? Ah, mushrooms or something?

[Ra]

Me. Yeah. It was me and Biz versus PFT and Brandon Walker and I, I hadn't met.

[Biz]

And we beat them.

[Ra]

We beat them.

[Whitney]

No, you won that one.

[Biz]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. RA Was tripping off his balls and. Yeah, I somehow pulled the rabbit out of his ass.

[Ra]

I was enjoying my vacation biz. You. You were clutch too, man.

[Patrice Bergeron]

We.

[Ra]

We had great teammates, but they.

[Patrice Bergeron]

No way.

[Ra]

They thought they were going to lose to us two packer heads. But Chicklets versus pft Brandon Walker. Give it a. Give it a look. See if you want a few laughs. So.

[Patrice Bergeron]

All right, boys.

[Biz]

Great show, boys. Patrice Bergeron.

[Whitney]

Yeah. Thank you, Burger.

[Keith]

Gonna go watch Uplifting.

[Whitney]

Yeah. I'm gonna put on World War II documentary. Meeting all the kids who are.

[Ra]

Is he gonna die?

[Whitney]

Bye. All right, everyone, have a great week. We'll see you next week.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Love you all.

[Keith]

Peace.

[Patrice Bergeron]

Won't happen, Won't happen won't happen again it won't happen Won't happen won't happen

[Whitney]

again A bad habit worth breaking but

[Patrice Bergeron]

it's taken time I don't know don't let it happen it's gonna happen again. What happens when you. You lock 18 co workers in an

[Biz]

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[Patrice Bergeron]

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[Biz]

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[Patrice Bergeron]

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[Whitney]

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[Patrice Bergeron]

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