Spittin' Chiclets Episode 664: Featuring Dave Tippett

Summary

Spittin Chiclets Episode 664: Featuring Dave Tippett

Date: August 11, 2026
Hosts: Ryan Whitney, Paul ‘Biz’ Bissonnette, Rear Admiral, Mike Grinnell
Guest: Dave Tippett

---

Episode Overview

This episode delivers the classic Chiclets blend: irreverent banter, inside-hockey stories, and a heavy dose of golf gabbing. Ryan Whitney takes center stage as the conquering hero of the 87th Fallon Cup, spending a solid chunk of the show walking listeners through every twist and turn of his “bucket-list” tournament victory. The crew eventually switches gears to NHL topics, controversial contracts, and a slew of lively stories—culminating in a deep, revealing chat with coach Dave Tippett, whose legendary calm and leadership helped shape several NHL franchises. Through inside laughs, self-deprecation, and hilarious detours (including an epic sweaty waiter story from Yan Stastny), this episode is a goldmine for hockey diehards and casual listeners alike.

---

Key Segment Summaries & Memorable Moments

---

1. [Golf Glory: Whitney’s Fallon Cup Saga (02:12–25:32)]

• Ryan Whitney’s Recap: Whitney spends over 20 minutes reliving his recent triumph at the Fallon Cup member-guest golf tournament, detailing the tournament’s prestige, format, and personal significance.

  • “If I hadn't won this goddamn tournament, I could have been on my deathbed at 90 years old ... My life wasn't complete without winning this tournament.” — Ryan Whitney (05:00)
  • Details on the format, competition levels, and the emotional rollercoaster as his partnership with Andy Luther overcomes multiple deficits.
  • Notable for the meticulous recounting of every pressure-packed hole of the final match, including vivid play-by-play and internal monologues.
  • “I forever am a Fallon Cup champion with Andy Luther. They put your name on the big trophy. Pinkies up.” — Ryan Whitney (17:07)

• Team Dynamics:

  • Andy Luther, Whitney’s partner, gets ample praise as a “dog” on the course and a stand-up guy.
  • The camaraderie, traditions, and shenanigans (surprise birthday party, wives’ night, and team rituals) around the event highlight club culture.

• Comedic Detours:

  • Nonstop ribbing between hosts about golf obsession vs. hockey focus.
  • “If you don’t like golf, one, you’re an idiot. Two, shut the pod off. … I don’t care. Because currently this morning … I am on top of the world.” — Biz (02:48)

• Trophy Lore:

  • Anecdotes about the Fallon Cup's mysterious namesake, its legacy, and how it even inspired one participant to name his daughter “Fallon.”

Timestamps:

• Fallon Cup breakdown: 02:12–10:01
• Final match, hole-by-hole: 10:01–18:45
• Trophy and aftermath: 19:09–25:32

---

2. NHL Talk: Statues, Contracts, Oilers’ Cup Dreams (25:06–33:12)

• Statue Debates:

  • Banter on Anze Kopitar’s forthcoming statue in LA (and which franchise icons deserve to be immortalized).
  • “Will he get his own individual or is he going to get blended into the... their type of statue?" — Yan Stastny (25:44)

• Penguins’ Big Gamble:

  • Breakdown of Pittsburgh’s eyebrow-raising eight-year deal for an unproven Finn (27:45–29:14).
  • “To commit for eight years at that number, it’s certainly a gamble. ... If he just becomes an average player, this looks like lunacy.” — Yan Stastny (28:40)

• Oilers’ Offseason & Coach Babcock:

  • Biz’s optimism about Edmonton’s chances, channeling his own golf glory: “If I can win the Fallon Cup, the Oilers can win the Stanley Cup.” (30:12)
  • Tangent on Mike Babcock’s legal wrangling with Mike Commodore (“defamation” and the quirks of public figures suing in court).
  • The idea of the Oilers embracing a villain persona for the coming season.

---

3. Off-the-Rails: The Saga of “Sweat Bay” and Movie Chat (33:12–46:17)

• Sweaty Waiter Chronicles:

  • Yan tells a detailed story about Victoria’s famed Deep Cove Chalet restaurant, home to a beloved, hyper-sweaty French waiter nicknamed “Sweat Bay” or “Gaston.”
  • “He comes out… and he is leaking, bro. He is leaking… That bead of sweat drops either in my margarita or Pasha’s margarita, buddy. Direct shot. Battleship has sunk. Direct hit.” — Yan Stastny (42:06)
  • The hosts devolve into fits about “sweat as seasoning,” sketchy sub shops, and Gaston’s legendary presence.
  • Lively group banter about the quirks that make a local institution.
  • “I respect the loyalty for the sweat.” — Biz (45:23)

• Movie Tangents:

  • The crew launches into a wild, irreverent review of a Homeric epic starring Matt Damon and Charlize Theron, riffing on Gladiator-worthy setpieces and jokes about viewing questionable scenes in IMAX.
  • “Her vagina's in your face with the 3D glasses on. It's pretty cool.” — Biz (34:27)

---

4. [Dave Tippett: The Coach’s Coach (48:55–End of Episode)]

In-depth interview begins: 48:55

Tippett’s Post-Coaching Life and Philosophy

• Retirement Joys:

  • “Got no more alarm clocks. I’m retired.” — Dave Tippett (49:03)
  • Splitting time between Flagstaff and Scottsdale, playing golf, enjoying life.

• Whitney & Biz’s Playing Days:

  • Inside stories from Biz’s time in Arizona, including the infamous “$10 hotel water tweet” almost getting the Coyotes kicked out of their hotel.
    • “They were kicking our whole team out of the hotel because Biz tweeted, What is this $10 water?” — Tippett (51:25)
    • Tippett’s reaction: bemused tolerance and occasional discipline.

• Team Building and Player Dynamics:

  • The Arizona Coyotes' rise from bankruptcy to playoff overachievers.
  • “Those teams I think were the epitome of what a team should be like. We had so much fun. Everybody liked each other.” — Tippett (57:58)
  • Fondness for Shane Doan: “Most level-headed captain you ever had?” “Yeah, he was by far the best leader that I've ever seen. ... He was like a partner with me.” — Tippett (109:52)
  • Legendary goalie stories (Ilya Bryzgalov, Mike Smith), efficiency point system, and the necessity of locker room laughs.

Behind the Bench & On the Ice

• Philosophy of Fun and Focus:

  • Tippett’s approach: balance seriousness with fun; enjoy the grind with good characters.
  • “You gotta have fun in this game.” (119:08)

• Tale of Two Careers:

  • Tippett’s own underdog journey: undrafted, Team Canada Olympian, top defensive center.
  • Hilarious Gretzky “shadowing” story and how to survive in the NHL as the “little guy.”

• Inside the Game:

  • The mechanics of shadowing, shutting down superstars, and adjusting to NHL speed and physicality.
  • Fun locker room tales of NHL legends: Bobby Francis, John Anderson, Greg (“Bugsy”) Malone, Dean Evason, Joel Quenneville.

• Coaching Superstars:

  • Comparing Mario Lemieux (as teammate) and Connor McDavid (as player he coached).
  • “He’s just, he’s a good person. … You ask any of the players there, he's a great teammate, really good teammate.” — Tippett on McDavid (116:47)
  • Tippett’s conviction: McDavid will win a Cup—eventually.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “My biggest worry is a 16-year-old grandson now, so that's a lot easier than you guys.” — Tippett to Biz (49:40)
• “You were kind of stuck between forward and defense, and I think Pittsburgh had played you a few games on forward... You needed his energy and he needed a change to get some ice time. Worked out good.” — Tippett on how Biz landed in Arizona (54:37)
• “You gotta turn into the old bull now. Young bull... wants to run down and one of those cows. The old bull, you walk down and [have] them all.” — Tippett’s locker room wisdom to Yan (60:56)

Timestamps:

• Tippett joins: 48:55
• Biz’s Twitter incident: 51:03–54:03
• Phoenix team stories: 55:05–66:19
• Dallas, Pittsburgh, and coaching philosophies: 66:36–100:17
• Connor McDavid & leadership: 116:41–End of interview

---

5. Final Rapid-Fire Banter & Acknowledgements (121:15–End)

• Post-interview gratitude, more laughs about surprise birthday parties, and promises for more hockey and fewer golf tangents as the season approaches.

---

Notable Quotes (With Timestamps)

• “If you don’t like golf, one, you’re an idiot. Two, shut the pod off ... I won. I’m a champion forever.” — Biz (02:48)
• “I forever am a Fallon Cup champion with Andy Luther. They put your name on the big trophy. Pinkies up.” — Ryan Whitney (17:07)
• “He comes out… and he is leaking, bro. … That bead of sweat drops either in my margarita or Pasha’s margarita… Battleship has sunk. Direct hit.” — Yan (42:06)
• “They were kicking our whole team out of the hotel because Biz tweeted, ‘What is this $10 water?’” — Dave Tippett (51:25)
• “You got to turn into the old bull now. ... The old bull, you walk down and [have] them all.” — Dave Tippett (60:56)
• “He needs to keep at it, he’s gonna find his day again. … He takes care of himself … I can’t say enough good things about him.” — Tippett on Connor McDavid (116:47)

---

Key Takeaways

• Whitney’s Golf Obsession: A masterclass in club culture, competitiveness, and why member-guest victories mean so much.
• NHL Locker Room Stories: The best of hockey folklore—team chemistry, pranks, and the characters who make the league tick.
• Dave Tippett’s Insights: A study in composure. Tippett’s blend of discipline, empathy, and wit comes through, painting a portrait of why he remains a player’s coach and a beloved leader.
• Spittin Chiclets Formula: No-holds-barred humor, authentic storytelling, and a willingness to go off-script for the sake of entertainment.

---

For New/Non-Listeners

This episode is a feast for fans of hockey, sports culture, and the peculiarities of competitive life—on and off the ice. Whitney’s detailed golfing tale sets the tone. Tippett’s appearance delivers on wisdom, humility, and first-class stories from hockey’s golden eras. The show’s spirit of irreverence and camaraderie is alive and well.

Skip the first 25 minutes if you’re here solely for hockey, but don’t be shocked when the road always meanders back to the course.

Transcript

[Dave Tippett]

Hey Spit and Chiclets listeners.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

You can find every episode on Apple

[Dave Tippett]

Podcasts and Spotify Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music at Boar's Head. We've been going back to school for over 115 years and this year every school lunch is reason to celebrate. With the flavors your kids love and the exceptional quality you expect helping you make school lunch fresh, easy and delicious. Ring the bell? The deli is open. Committed to craft since 1905.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, it's PFT. Look, we all know NFL Sundays are sacred and so we found the perfect way to make sure we don't miss a single snap of NFL action. We're fully dialed into NFL Sunday Ticket and YouTube TV. When you bundle NFL Sunday Ticket and YouTube TV, you get every game, every Sunday period. The best part? The multi view feature lets you watch up to four games at once so you can track your fantasy matchups in real time. You can watch your favorite players and keep tabs on everything across the league. It's the ultimate setup for the NFL season. Plus, new users can get NFL Sunday Ticket for eight payments of $30 per month. Go to YouTube.com NFLST and get it done. Don't be the guy guessing what's happening in the other games. Be the guy in the living room who sees it. All new users pay $240 or 8 non cancellable payments of $30 a month. First charge at purchase. Availability varies with NFL Sunday Ticket for out of market games and YouTube TV for local and national games. YouTube TV required terms, restrictions and embargoes apply. Commercial use excluded. No refunds.

[Ryan Whitney]

Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

to the jungle that is Bastool Sports.

[Yan Stastny]

I brought it towards the Coyotes and I asked them if it was okay if I joined the Spit Chickens podcast full time.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Ryan Whitney got a Pink Whitney out there. Now

[Dave Tippett]

the song man

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

is a full time member. Marley just got an assist from Chris B. Whoa.

[Dave Tippett]

We're buzzing right now.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

What is up everyone? Welcome, welcome, welcome to episode 664 of this Spitting Chick Cooks podcast. And I'm going to tell you something right now. I've never been more Pinkies up in my life and I will explain why in a couple minutes. But shout out Pink Whitney and summer's not over yet. And even when summer ends and fall becomes a part of our life again, in winter and football Pink Whitney, it always remains. It doesn't go anywhere. It doesn't matter. So Pinky's up. We got football tailgates, but we're not there yet. We're still summer as I go.

[Ryan Whitney]

Pink.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Ease up. Thank you very much. If you don't like golf, one, you're an idiot. Two, shut the pot off. Or at least fast forward for 25 minutes because I don't want to hear any complaining. And if you complain to me, I don't care. Because currently this morning at 8:34 on Monday, August 10th, I am on top of the world. Boys, a dream came true. My guy, Andy Luther from Alabama and myself won the Fallon Cup. What is the Fallon Cup? What is the Fallon Cup? Guys, it's the greatest member guest in the world. And I'm not exaggerating. And we're gonna get golf tourney here. We're gonna discuss. Now are you mad that we're talking about golf? Stop talking about golf. I want to talk about hockey. Shut up. Because I won. I'm a champion forever. And guess what? The format of this tournament. Boys, if I had talk your.

[Yan Stastny]

I can't wait to hear about it. I have no idea. I've heard about the Fallon cup, but I don't know.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Let me quickly explain the Fallon Cup. Okay, The Fallon Cup. Most member guesses. A lot of member guesses. You bring a guest and you play five or seven nine hole matches. And then there's different flights and. Well, the Fallon cup you can have. Anyone can sign up for the Fallon Cup. But the problem is there's only 96 spots. So they have a championship flight. First flight, second flight, third flight, fourth flight, fifth flight. There was 122 teams that signed up. Well, what happens is you do qualifying, you do best ball. You go out and play with your partner. And if biz me and you were playing together and you make a five and I get a four, our score is four. Okay? So you have to be top 96 to get in. So I think 26 teams didn't even get in this year. Which is tough. You know, people travel for it. But it's gross. Once the tournament starts, then you use the strokes and everyone's handicap comes in. But to get into the tournament, you just have to go out and post a number. My guy, my guy, Andy Luther. We've been in the championship flight every year. We always go out shoot three or four under, which is hard. You can go out there and make a double bogey. You don't get into the championship flight. Why does the championship flight matter the most? Because that's the only way to win the Fallon Cup. If you win the champ flight, you win the Fallon Cup. If you win your other flight, you you know, you win maybe a couple bucks and you win your flight, but you don't win the Fallon Cup. Okay, I won Fallon. I won the Fallon Cup. And people maybe say, oh, it's a member guest. You can. It's the Fallon Cup. F, A L, L, O I and cup.

[Yan Stastny]

Who is Fallon?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I don't even know, dude. It was the 87th year, boys. It was the 87th year. I saw that and I go, crosby, I go, I wouldn't even have a Life without number 87. And it's the 87th Fallon Cup. And I'm not going to lie, boys. I'm not going to lie. Like, I've kind of in the back of my mind been like, I'm like running out of time. Like, these young kids are coming, they got new members, they're smashing it 50 yards past me. I'm like, if I don't get this thing soon. I turned 44 in February, like, like I'm running out of time. And if I hadn't won this goddamn tournament, I could have been on my deathbed at 90 years old. Shake. I would have shook my head. I never won the F. Like my life wasn't complete without winning this tournament.

[Yan Stastny]

How many teams in the championship fight?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

16. So you got to win four matches. Okay, so it was an awesome, awesome Thursday night party. And then teams qualify Wednesday and Thursday. So it's all day those two days and then the matches start. So we won Friday and we. Friday we got matched it with the. We playing like the best player at the club.

[Yan Stastny]

Nine hole. Nine holes each match.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

No, that's the thing. They're 18 whole matches. Holy. So that's another. I didn't even say that. That's another thing. It's pretty cool. It's a lot. Well, 18 whole matches came. This is. Comes into play. And I will not run through each match. Although I could. I could sit here for five hours and talk about this. Goddamn.

[Yan Stastny]

What's crazy is you would remember every single hole.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Every single hole. Well, I won the Fallon Cup. I don't know if I told you that yet. Yes, the Fallon Cup. So Jake Ratty's an unbelievable player. We get him first round. He went to the finals last year. I'm like, dude, if we can get through this one, like, we can win this thing. Mind you, Luther and I every other year have won on Friday. We always win the first round and then we lose. Saturday, we'd never made it to Sunday. And it was like, dude. But I kept saying, I'm like, it's like Golfers on when they lose a bunch of tournaments, they're like, I'm just going to keep putting myself in position. I'm going to keep putting myself in position. So, boom, we get through Friday again in an incredible match. We won one up, unreal match. And we're like, all right, we gotta slay the dragon Saturday. And we slayed the shit out of the dragon. I grabbed a sword and I put the sword through the dragon's throat. On Saturday with Luther, he was gone. Okay, so now we're on to Sunday now.

[Yan Stastny]

Cyclops Eye and.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah, exactly. Mind you, Avery was in. Was around when we won the F Cup too. He was in there. So Saturday night you have the big Thursday night party at Wally. And then you have a big Friday night party with when the Wives Come. Thursday night's men's only. And then it's like, all right, if you win Saturday, you're onto the semifinal. Sunday you tee off at 7am I'll just take it easy. No, no, no, no. Because we had our guy Keith Yandel's surprise 40th birthday party Saturday. He didn't have a clue. He pretended to know biz. He didn't have a goddamn clue. Blue. He walked in. All of his best friends and his family are there.

[Dave Tippett]

Surprise.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Meanwhile, I'm in the corner looking at the pin sheets for the match the next morning. So here's another great aspect. So Kevin Hayes plays. They're in the Champ Flight with a kid, Nick Rezor, a very good golfer. He's in the other semifinal of the Champ Flight on Sunday morning. So he's at 7am I'm at 7:10. Keith's party was awesome. We'll get into that, but I'm going to talk about the foul and come. So I'm like, if we get by this and we play Hazy in the finals, it'll be probably the most legendary final you could ever ask for there. And so many people follow the final. They get the scoreboard out there and everything. So we get into this Sat. Sunday morning match and we just take care of business. We went on 14, and now at this point, the train's rolling. And when I play 36 holes. Days, I play 36 holes. I played nasty the second 18, like really always. And maybe not nasty, but always better than the morning. And in the morning, I think I was four over through. Through 14. So I was playing pretty good. But not like, I'm like, I need more. I need more. In the finals, Hazy ends up losing. They had a good match, but they lost to the defending champs. Okay, the members are very good player, very steady, and the guest is a kid who plays at UConn or he just graduated from UConn, like a legitimate golfer. They won it last year. And I don't even. They were like kind of drumming everyone. I think they beat hazy on 17, but they won matches five and four, six and five, and it's on. And it's on like Donkey Kong. And here we go, this match, boys. I could take you by all my. I really could. Will I?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

It's the fouling cup. First hole, we tie with pars. Second hole. Now I'm getting six shots, okay, because this kid's eight is a plus three, and I'm a three, so I'm getting six shots. My partner Andy Luther's getting four shots because he's a one. And then the member, Zach is getting five because he's a two. So four, five, and six are the shots that this kid Ray is giving out. The second hole, I hit a really nice, nice shot into the middle of the green. I have a putt for three, two. I two putt for four, three. Zach's long. You can't go long. At Wally World, he chips this incredible chip like down to like four feet and cans it for four, three. Now I haven't even putted yet. Okay, because whatever. Long story. Now I have like. I'm like. Now I have to two pot. It's a little different. I two putt, no problem. We go to three. Zach berries like a 25 foot birdie. We're down one. At this point. We'd played three matches and we're three holes into the final match. We had not been. Not lead it. We never were trailing. So I said, wow, that's our first deficit. Okay, no worries. We go to four, we tie four, we go to five. My guy Luther hits it on. He's got an eagle pot. Zach hits it on, he has an eagle pot. I get up and down for birdie. So now Luther has a free run, right? It doesn't matter if he hammers the eagle pot by because we have the four, thanks to me with dog. And what happens? He literally leaves it one inch from the cup for eagle. And Zach steps up and knocks in the eagle. Oh, so we're two down. I'm like, jesus, God. Like, we're playing. We're fine. You know what I mean? But we're two down, we get to six. 185 yard or 100? Yeah, 180, I think it was. And we Both kind of hit it on the green, just off the green, and this kid Ray hits it to an inch. Now we're down three. I'm like, jesus. But you know what, boys? I'm so proud of myself and the lut dog. I was so positive, like, we're fine. I'm like, we're fine. And I was striping it. I was striping it. So I was like, my game's money right now. Second 18 of the day. You know what? I used to do like eight days a week before I had kids. Thanks, kids. We go to seven and we win. They both three putt. All right, we're two down. We're two down. Okay, we go to eight, we tie. Still two down. We go to nine. I'm so dumb. I thought I was the only one stroking. Okay, but I wasn't. My partner makes birdie and Zach makes four. I'm like, nice one. Down. We get up, I see the card Zach was stroking. So we're still two down. Still two down. All right, no worries. We go to 10, everyone has birdie putts. Zach makes a another 25 footer for birdie. Three down through 10. Now at this point, it's like most people watching. I'd say there was about a hundred people out there watching. They got the carts, they got the booze.

[Yan Stastny]

It's just for now.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Pinkies up.

[Yan Stastny]

And was Yan's there watching?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

No, because he's in Nantucket. I just got here. That's another story. I was up till two in the morning. My alarm went off at four. I've slept two hours, boys, two hours. I was hugging the trophy at the trophy, just rubbing it. And so we end up down, down three. With eight to go, we drive off the 10th hole. I go, dude, we just have to make a long pot. Like we're gonna have to make a couple long putts. They've made three or four, you know, 20 to 30 foot putts. Luther's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Luth goes on, goes on to 11 and can's like a 40 foot downhill.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yes.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Loof, he's a dog. This kid's an absolute dog.

[Yan Stastny]

And two.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Oh, yeah, he's just got big old calves. He loves IPAs. He's an animal. So we go to 12, they both bogey. Now we're one down. Now we're one down. We get the pars on 12, we're one down. We go to 13, I hit this thing dead right. This thing's going 100 yards into the water, hits a tree and kicks down With a perfect angle to the green. Luther snap hooks his out of bounds. They're sitting pretty, these guys. We both. So I end up. We all have birdie putts. They lip out like I'm talking. It hits the lip and stops on the edge. And I made like a five foot par putt. We're still one down. We're still one down. We go to 14. Both teams birdie. We're still one down. Now we get to 15. We are one down. And this is the hole I stroke alone. You remember, four shots for Luth, five shots for Zach, six shots for Wit Dog.

[Ryan Whitney]

That's a stroke.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Hole 15. It was all the way back. It's a. It's my favorite hole. I wonder why it's my favorite hole at the course.

[Ryan Whitney]

You want to know why you're a fop champ?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Because. Because I. I hit a great drive. But Ray, this kid hits it legit 60 yards past me. I hit it on to about 25ft. I'm stroking alone. I don't know if I mentioned that. He hits it to like seven feet. He stuffs it. So I'm like, oh, dude, like I gotta make this three for two. He's not even putting. He cannot beat three for two if he's putting for three.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Bam.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

With dog. Bam. Right in the jar. This match is tied up. This match is tied up. We go to 16. Birdie putts for everyone. Everyone misses. We go to 17. Okay? Everyone hits it on. They both three putted were one up.

[Dave Tippett]

What?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

One up? Going to 18. We pard, they bogey. We now have the lead. We were down three after 10 and through 17, we're up one and I'm talking. The vibes are high. I'm seeing all my best buddies, their fist popping me. Let's go, let's go. Maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit on that. We get to 18, buddy. I hit the drive of my life. I just fade this thing around the corner. I'm sitting dead, middle of the fairway. Uphill shot. A true championship finishing hole. The 18th hole at Walston. This is the Fallon cup we're talking about, by the way. I got 1/5. Luther. Luther had like 195, hits an incredible shot, but it goes to the back right of the green and the pin is front left. So I'm like, that's going to be a very hard two, but I'm standing over this ball. I'm like, nine iron. It was 140 to cover the bunker uphill. Playing 150. I'm like, or I chip an eight. But I've been, like, swinging hard at stuff and not doing, like, softer swings, which.

[Dave Tippett]

That's a different subject.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

We can get into that another golf talk day. I choose nine. I come up and out of it, buddy. I leave it short, like, like, on, like, near the top of the hill. But now I have to hit it over, like, the rough and a bunker to a front left pin. So I got to hit it high. I nip this thing pretty nice to about eight feet. Okay, Zach has a birdie putt for three. Two. We're all stroking on this hole. Also, I should have mentioned that. Okay, Zach leaves his birdie putt to make three for two. Literally right here, an incredible putt. Luther putts his down to about, like, three, four feet. An awesome putt. So now if Luther makes that putt, we win. Or if I make my putt, I win. I had eight feet, so I'm going to go first. And I'm not going to lie. I said, I want to make this putt.

[Dave Tippett]

Oh, yeah, here it is.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Here's the video. Here's the video. So here's the video. And I'll just keep talking. I'm lining this thing up, boys, and I'm like, I've had this putt before. It's split left edge. Just hit it with pace. Luther's going to make his anyways, but I want to be the one to wrap this putt. And I am so laser focused. I bought this shirt before the final because I wanted a Wally shirt when I won the tournament. I wore this sandbar Jetty's Beach Nantucket hat the whole time because I really like this hat. And right now, in my mind, I bring the putter back and Fallon Cup. And let me tell you guys. And let me tell you guys, I said, let's go with a. And it was about 12 inches, tiger. But I knew I hearted it. I knew I hearted it. And we won and we some. And I forever am a Fallon cup champion with Andy Luther. They put your name on the big trophy. Pinkies up. I can't believe that I won. And let me tell you this, too. I. On the 13th hole, I had to make that putt for par to stay one down. And I'm standing over it. And I'm not lying. I started smiling. I started smiling because I said, this is all you've wanted, is to play in this match every year. I go to the championship match every year. And every year, I'm like, I want to play in this match. I love when people are fallen. I want to play in this match. I stood over this putt and I actually started smiling. I'm like, you're in this match. And I fucking canned it. And my attitude and just. Am I pumping my own tires right now? Yes.

[Yan Stastny]

No, you fucking earned it. Your champion.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Are we a golf podcast? No.

[Ryan Whitney]

Now we are.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

We talk kinda about a Falcon cup champion for the rest of eternity. Yes, we are. So thank you for listening to my TED Talk. But I won.

[Yan Stastny]

Dude. That was an.

[Ryan Whitney]

Thank you for sharing.

[Yan Stastny]

The trophy is incredible.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

It's unbelievable. It's huge.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's the Fallon Cup.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

It's.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, that's right. Yeah. And so you have no idea who this Fallon guy is?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

No. Yeah, it's a great question. It's a great question. I mean, my buddy, me, Keith's buddy Bill, he named his daughter Fallon. He named his daughter after this tournament, I think legit.

[Yan Stastny]

Now we got to get into the fact that you guys had an impromptu Yandel surprise birthday party during the Fallon Cup.

[Ryan Whitney]

Dude, I was, I was so stressed out during his matches. I'm like, because if he loses, he was at my party, he's going to be pissed at me.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Ryan Whitney]

So I was like stressed out about that. But yeah, luckily he took it home.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

And yeah, it was just an incredible. I still can't. I woke up, I was like, was it a dream? Was it a dream? Oh, no. This metal trophy is touching my earlobe in bed. Brie wasn't here. Bri wasn't there. I got off the green and my father in law had showed up, but I never saw him in the crowd. And, and he's. He had been FaceTiming with Bri and the boys because they're in New York City. So they were watching it on FaceTime and then like Rider and Wired are going nuts. It was, it was a great. It was a great, great, great. It was a day I'll remember the rest of my life. My buddy Andy Luther is such an incredible player and an even better guy. And it's just a turn. It's a. It's an awesome tournament, dude. It's so fun.

[Yan Stastny]

And how, how did you meet him?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

We got paired together. I played in the mass am in 20, 19 or 18 and we were randomly paired together. And he's like, hey, I live in Milton. I was like, oh, so do I. He's like, I'm from Alabama. I play at Boston Golf. He's like, do you know, like, you like playing money matches? I'd love to get some money matches. They go, oh, you just got paired with the right guy. And we've just been playing golf together ever since biz.

[Ryan Whitney]

This tournament is so crazy that like, obviously it's a member guest. So some of the members have never met their partners before. They'll meet them in the parking lot, but like they're a great player and they want to win so bad they hire guns to come in.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah, there's hired guns. There's high, like there's got like, there's like 65 year olds playing.

[Yan Stastny]

Would you consider that guy hired gun?

[Ryan Whitney]

No. Friends?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

No, no, no. He's not a hired gun. He is not a hired gun. Because we had, we played together. I said, hey. And he brings. And so we won Boston golf. Member guest and now we won this one. So we got both our clubs. We got both our clubs. We were able to figure that out. And there was other funny stuff, but I'm just on cloud nine.

[Yan Stastny]

I don't know, are these members like paying these hired guns to come in to play with them or they just like cover?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

They're not paying, but they're. But they're paying for the tournament and like, you know everything else. But yeah, it's like we'd also lost to. We lost two years in a row to a kid who shot 29 on the front and then 65. We lost in a playoff. Next year a different kid shot 29 in the front and we lost on that match on 17. It was just like I, I was just like, I don't know if I'm ever going to like, I don't know if I'm ever going to win this tournament.

[Ryan Whitney]

Did though.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

So you guys call it Wally World. Are you also a member at Wallston and Old Sandwich?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yes. Yeah. So Wallacen's like where, where I live, like right there. It's like kind of like it's the

[Ryan Whitney]

one we played against Tuka in them.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah, we. It's where we played Tuka in them.

[Yan Stastny]

Okay. I thought that was Old Sandwich.

[Dave Tippett]

No, no, no, no.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Tiger woods won a US junior am at Wallacen in like 1993 or something like that. Okay. Sick, sick little track amazing people there.

[Yan Stastny]

I'm bad with the track name. Sorry, boys. I should have known. No, that is like, that is the Fountain Cup.

[Ryan Whitney]

Just don't ever forget the word Fallon Cup. All right.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Don't ever forget it. Yeah, we did it.

[Yan Stastny]

Does this like after this, like, does it feel like the, the, the Family Feud and, and the, the saber sword? Is that so far in the rear view mirror where you're like, I'm a foul and kept ch Champion. Like, I don't give a about any of that, buddy.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

You could pants me on Family Feud while I'm drinking a saber chug sword and I literally wouldn't care. And I think I said. I think I said recently when discussing how it's been a tough year. It's been a tough year for the wit dog. And I think I said, I'm due for something good. You are. No, I could have said that. And now was this online for the world to see? Like the Family Feud and the Saber ch. Anything else that I've embarrassed myself with? No, it wasn't. But in my mind, I. I don't care. I don't care that everyone else doesn't know. You know why? Because I just came on and talked about it for 25 minutes. So there you go.

[Ryan Whitney]

Cup champion.

[Dave Tippett]

There you go.

[Yan Stastny]

You get to keep the trophy for till next fallen cup.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yup.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hey, he did a. He did a class move.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Well, I had Luth take it home to show his daughter. His daughter's, I think four or five and. And she's really into trophies, so she's

[Yan Stastny]

getting baptized out of it. That happens a little younger, but I

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

didn't think, you know, you know, just. If you told me. If you told me when I joined Wallace and I think it was 2009 8, that I would be drinking a vodka named after me out of the Fallon cup after winning the Fallon Cup, I probably would have said, you're crazy. But so it turns out, man, I showed up. I. I nutted up, dude. In that final match, I shot 72, getting six shots. That's a 66 net. Our team was 10 under. They were nine under. So it was a great match, dude. It was. It was a.

[Yan Stastny]

It was.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

It was a. It was a fun, fun day that I'll never forget. 36 holes. The second 18. The with dog brings the thunder hazy.

[Yan Stastny]

Must be a pretty good. I know we played against was incredible. Is so he's so much better now.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Well, he's like a seven where. I think he's a seven index.

[Dave Tippett]

That's real good.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah, but he. When he's on. He like every match they were winning. He was like on the front nine. He was like one over. And then like he's playing a kid. He played a kid who played in the masters in the U.S. open. He's one of the guests who plays and he's getting 11 shots from this kid who's like a plus four and like shooting one over on the front. Like, you can't beat that no matter what. And so Hazy was on fire. And I think in the semifinals, he said he, he had like a couple holes where he was stroking alone, that he messed up. But he played awesome. He played awesome. So it was. Yeah, I mean, we can move on, I guess. Kopitar's getting a statue.

[Ryan Whitney]

So are you outside of Wollaston? Wit's gonna put a statue of himself at his house.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, yeah. He's like, where's my parking spot? It's like, yeah, we. We got bigger fish to fry. Sweet. He could park on the road.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, I, I bought a place a few doors down. You can park there with my Fallon cup winnings.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I get towed, but I still have the trophy, so I don't care.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

So I really haven't followed anything. Like, I have no clue what we're even talking about right now.

[Dave Tippett]

Like, it's not much.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Starts getting a statue. I guess he's got his statue, which,

[Yan Stastny]

I mean, well deserved. I think when the other guys from that dynasty got the statues, we were well aware that Kopitar was going to get one. Will he get his own individual or is he going to get blended into the. Their type of statue? Because I think the other one was.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

What is it? Brown. Brown has one with somebody else.

[Yan Stastny]

I thought it was Brown and one

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

other guy, his member. I originally was like, I don't know if Dustin Brown, statue guy.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, maybe we knew that if Brown's getting one, then we're going to probably have a Quickie's going to be there and then Doughty's gonna be in it.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

So it would be, it would be Kopitar, Quickie, Doughty. I mean, yeah, Brown, that was the core. That was the core. But then you got Mr. Game 7, you know, Justin Williams. He could have a statue with Carolina and la. Technically, he won the Con Smites for

[Yan Stastny]

him, the split jersey.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

How about that kid's contract for Pittsburgh? What's this kid's name? This is a funny two tux fun.

[Yan Stastny]

I don't think anybody on the planet was angrier than Matt Murley when that contract came up. Merls was put comparing his stats through. Through 30 games compared to his saying, hey, I would have took half of this. I would have took a two way.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I, I thought this was a. I thought this was a. I just saw Twitter and I, I saw V. Villi. Villi. Cuivenin.

[Yan Stastny]

This is. The fan base was all over me about the Genel trade, saying that this kid was going to be like the next, the next Finn. That's the guy they were, they, they were backing up and justifying that, that Gensel move where. Listen, like this is. Let's read. He's 23 years old, recorded two goals and five assists across 39 games last season. He also collected 13 goals and 28 assists for 41 points in 34 AHL games. So he's lighting up the AHL. Good for him. But sick to sign this guy to an 8 year, 32 million dollar deal. Hey man, I don't know. Have you watched him play much? Yan's, you know much about him?

[Ryan Whitney]

No, nothing.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I don't know one thing about him. Now if he ends up being decent though, they're gonna look like geniuses. The, you know, the dubious mastermind where like maybe he's like, this kid's gonna be good. And we just got him for 4 million bucks a year, which is now league minimum. So in fairness, you're actually paying him nothing. It's just so funny to see your career NHL stats be what they are and get $32 million. I think merles might still be like awake just like looking at his stats, being like, I don't get it, I don't get it. I don't get. Look at me, look at me. I got sent down by Laviolet after I scored in that preseason game.

[Ryan Whitney]

This is, do you think it's one of those things with. Because Genel is such a prominent player, like they had to sign him to save face, to justify it? Yeah, I mean make him, make him prove another year. Right? I'm sure he would have taken a one year deal of 4 million.

[Yan Stastny]

I, I don't, I can't think of another situation where, where a guy who played so few games gets such an aggressive deal. I've seen a few where they've gotten like a two, three year one way all of a sudden and they're making a couple million bucks where you're like, oh geez. They, you know, they really believe in this guy's trajectory. But to commit for, for eight years at that number, it's, it's certainly a gamble. And it, it looks if, if it doesn't pan out and he just becomes like a, like an average up and down player. This just looks like, this looks like lunacy.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Lunacy.

[Ryan Whitney]

I, I honestly always said that though, like out of my first contract, if they offered, if Phoenix offered me a 10 year deal at like $3 million, I would have taken it Yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I remember joking around with Cogliano in Edmonton. He's like, I take a 15 year deal for 15 million.

[Ryan Whitney]

Right?

[Yan Stastny]

Did he end up making a lot more?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, Cogs. Cogs, probably. I wonder what. Cogs did not make it. He was money, dude. That kid was so good in Colorado. And they won it, too. A future GM type. I've always. I've been hearing from. From different people. He said, oh, come on, too. I love him. So I was talking to Ryan Shea, him and I think Savoy, Leon Bouchard. There was like eight guys went up to McDavid's and they had a little. And the Oilers are ready, buddy. The Oilers are ready. They're dialed in as a team. He said they had a great weekend up at the McDavid ranch.

[Yan Stastny]

How horny are you to hear that? I'm.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I'm like, buddy, like, I. There were like, if I can win the Fallon cup, the Oilers can win the Stanley Cup. We got. We got one of the best coaches in the history of the sport. Nobody else has won what He.

[Ryan Whitney]

What?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

What?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, no, you're right.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

He. Nobody's won what he's won. You can't deny the fact that the guy can coach. Don't listen to people who dog Babs. Babs is the guy who's going to bring the cup back, okay? If I can win the Fallon cup, the Oilers can win the Stanley Cup. That's for certain. And there's no strokes in the NHL playoffs.

[Yan Stastny]

Not to. Not to, like, not to be negative in this moment of you glazing. Babs, when you were on that golf trip with Commodore, did you find out what happened between him and the Oilers?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yes. So they sent him an email.

[Yan Stastny]

Babs did.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

They sent him an email saying, like. Like what.

[Yan Stastny]

What are.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

What is it called when you desist. No, yeah, it was a season desist. Harassing, like, slant, you know, slander. But, like, what is the word you use legally if you're gonna sue somebody for defamation? Defamation. They're like, we're gonna sue you for defamation. Which is. Call me's like. And call me. Telling this story is so funny. He's like, you basically can't ever, like, win a case if you're famous. If you think somebody, like, defame defamation, dude, this is tough for me right now.

[Yan Stastny]

No, no, it defamed you. Yeah, you got it.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

And like, Port always talked about this where, like, he sued people for defamation, but I guess if you're in the public eye, basically, people can say whatever they want about you. Like, that's kind of like the gist of it. So call me's like. But then I guess call me liable. Liable. Call me texted a lawyer buddy of his and he's like, yeah, I'd probably delete the one tweet because he had a tweet where, like, if your child is at, like, the oil development camp, there's a predator running around. I did think the predator word was totally unnecessary for a freaking legendary coach Mike Babcock. The guy can coach his dick off, boys. And so the predator thing, I think he deleted and then reworded it without using predator saying the exact same thing. Okay, so if he ends up in court with the OEG group, I. I think that would be a storyline basically built for spitting Chiclets.

[Yan Stastny]

Well, he played for the flames, right? Battle of Alberta.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I would go legal. Battle of Albert Alberto, Mike Commodore. And then I would pay Callie just to maybe represent himself like Matt Damon and goodwill hunting memes represent him. Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Retainer.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Retainer. Yeah. So Commie still really, really dislikes m. Mike Babcock. But you know who loves him? Zach Heitman and. And Conor McDavid and all these guys. So Stanley cup on an Edmonton Fallon couple with.

[Yan Stastny]

Maybe they need to be the villains that they. You know, they need to take on that type of identity where it's us against the world and it feels like it's that. Right.

[Dave Tippett]

So.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Oh, yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

I. With with Florida missing playoffs last year and them come. I would just to see that that trilogy would be.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

If they would. So you'd sign up right now if you could to guarantee an Edmonton Florida Re 0.

[Yan Stastny]

I think we need a. I. I would love to see a Leafs Panthers first round with Bob going against his former team. And I. Yeah. As. As much as that travels a kick in the junk.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Oh, my God.

[Yan Stastny]

I feel like. I feel like I did the Odyssey. I was Matt Damon, by the way, so I saw the Odyssey.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Okay. What'd you think?

[Yan Stastny]

I think that Matt Damon should win 10 Oscars for not crushing Charlize Theron after having to eat the lotus flowers for 10 years on that island with her. He never crushed her. Right?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Oh, I was assuming that they were sleeping together.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Three times a day.

[Ryan Whitney]

I mean, they didn't show it.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, they were.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I think he literally only crushed her when he was awake. That's what he took from the movie.

[Ryan Whitney]

That is what he took from one of the great.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

He's gonna say win 10 Oscars for just his acting role.

[Yan Stastny]

I sat there for three Hours. And they were pounding and I didn't get to watch.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah, I know.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, if you went to.

[Yan Stastny]

They should get zero Oscars.

[Ryan Whitney]

You can see it in imax.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Her vagina's in your face with the 3D glasses on. It's pretty cool.

[Yan Stastny]

Just, they're like, they're, They're. Man, the ship. She's squirting. Just, Just waterworks, Charlie. Staring. It's like water coming in.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Doesn't want to hear horror.

[Yan Stastny]

The water's in the theater.

[Dave Tippett]

We're like, ah.

[Yan Stastny]

It's like you get the smell.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

You're like, oh,

[Yan Stastny]

We're getting the full experience.

[Dave Tippett]

Unreal.

[Yan Stastny]

Like, just. Yeah. The way it was filmed, like, for that long of a movie, you never got bored, you know, like the, like the scene with. The scene with the witch turning them into pigs. The, the cyclops one. The cyclops one. Word. Like, it was, it was loud.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I know.

[Yan Stastny]

That guy was screaming his dick off, man.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

He sounded like memes coming in from a bar in London at the morning. Oh, dude.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

When the cyclops grabbed the one guy and just like, basically just like, flossed his teeth with him, I'm like, oh, man. Yeah, that, that was, that was crazy. And then they were smart enough to not let him because they were going to get him before it was open, before the door was open. They would have been stuck in there with a dead cyclops.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah. I, I, I love, like, I love the way it was shot, too, in the beginning, how, like, it was go kind of going back and forth and, like, starting the stor. The, The Trojan Horse. The way they filmed that was incredible.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yes.

[Yan Stastny]

Just how they were all in there and how when it was being tilted up, you kind of see them moving around and trying to maneuver in there.

[Ryan Whitney]

You know, it was cold in there. Right?

[Yan Stastny]

That's. Apparently it was freezing cold. And they were, they were committed to the bit, but I would say that I would compare it to, like, it was essentially Matt Damon's Gladiator.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

He.

[Yan Stastny]

Like, you look at Russell Crowe and Gladiator and how it sustained the test of time and how much of an impact it had during. During that period of film. Obviously, like a similar type thing, like the swords, the fighting and, and all that type of stuff. I, I felt like it, It'll.

[Dave Tippett]

It'll be like, it, It'll.

[Yan Stastny]

It'll be in that category till the end of time.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

Is that a fair comparison?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

100.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yes.

[Yan Stastny]

Just a longer version. I definitely need to watch it a few more times in order to get more of like the, like the nuances and the names and, you know, it's. It's a. That's a long. That's a grind of a movie. I can't remember. That was also the first time I've been to the movies. Like probably years and years before even Covid started.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

You don't go to the movie theater. You just watched your DVD of There Will Be Blood in your house theater.

[Yan Stastny]

That was. That was your father's gift. I haven't gotten that yet. I watched that usually just on the streaming channels, but. Incredible. And the only other thing I was going to tell you guys is, is we had a. We had this dinner at which I would probably call it my favorite restaurant in Canada. It's called the Deep Cove Chalet. And I might get banned from the restaurant for telling the story. So I just want to let you guys know that I'm like, I'm putting it out. I'm putting myself out there for this.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'm.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I'm banned. You'll be rattled. Like, you love the place, but you have to tell the story.

[Yan Stastny]

I'd have to tell the story because Pasha ended up going there for the first time. Now keep in mind I get to go there probably like once a summer when I'm back in. In Victoria. And Pasha had never been there to eat before, so. So he was part of this experience. So to set the table, it's about 30 minutes from Victoria. It's called the Deep Cove Chalet. And there's like an 80 year old, like the family owns it. And there's an 80 year old chef in the kitchen, French guy, and he's. He's incredible. And you know how you talked, how you don't like the. The Michelin stars, this is one of those, like, I would call it fine dining, but they're giving you great portions, like the meals and, and the side dishes and the appetizers are all incredible.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Is it hero act food? Like the, like you're just like, what is this? Or is it like normal?

[Yan Stastny]

No hero act. Like, for instance.

[Ryan Whitney]

Good.

[Yan Stastny]

Usually every time I get there, I get the beef Wellington, you know. You know what beef Wellington is?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yep.

[Yan Stastny]

There's the meat in the middle with the bread on the outside.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Oh, yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

They give you like a side one as like, just like to bring it out. Yeah. So.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

So you're car. Beef Wellington.

[Yan Stastny]

Exactly, exactly. Pretty. Pretty nice. So, you know, it's like a five acre property. They have like a little vineyard. It's on the water. You can go in for A dip if you want, like, so it's, like, not pretentious in that way where they give you, like, a towel if you want to go have a swim. The only, like, the only thing that's a little weird and you guys might not like, this is the main. They got the main server. I'm gonna call him Gaston just for the sake of. The story is it's inside and outside, and they don't have many servers. So he's making the drinks, and he gets, like, real sweaty. So he starts, like, leaking oil and he kind of walks like.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Well, a little.

[Yan Stastny]

I don't want to call it a hunch, but what. He's depending on the tray full of the drinks. All the sweat ends up leaking.

[Dave Tippett]

No, to the.

[Yan Stastny]

To the. To the. To the tip of his chin, buddy.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

He's not working out. He's that sweaty. Is it hot? Is it there?

[Yan Stastny]

Working his bag off, maybe?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I know he's working, but, like, you're sweat. It's not that hot there, is it?

[Yan Stastny]

The gist of it is, is he leaks a little bit in the cocktails as he's dropping them off. Okay, okay. So I knew that right away. You're probably like, how is this your favorite restaurant?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

Well, this reaction right here is exactly what I was hoping for. Okay.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

This is like when Yan's. I told him I really like the sub shop. He's like, I'll never go there again. I said, why? He said, because I took a bite of a sub from there one time, and there was an elastic band in the middle of it.

[Ryan Whitney]

I'll never go there again.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Biz. You witnessed sweat drip off the chin and fall directly into body.

[Yan Stastny]

It's. It's a little. That's like this little extra spice that the drink needs. So here. Here's the kicker.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's a palate cleanser.

[Yan Stastny]

It's a pallet. It's a straight up acid palate cleanser.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

It's an electrolyte.

[Yan Stastny]

So. So what? We are on the way to the restaurant, and we're excited for Pasha to experience this the first time. Not only sitting outside, taking it in through, like, sunset. The water's there, the food's incredible. Like, the service is incredible. Maybe other than what I just mentioned, which I don't personally care about, because the food and the restaurant is so good. So we tell and describe this to Pasha.

[Ryan Whitney]

He's Sweat bae, not Salt Bay.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, he's Sweat Bay.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Okay, sorry.

[Yan Stastny]

So, no, we're good. So we get there, and we've described this to Pasha Going into his first experience. And we get there, and Gaston comes up to the table because he's, of course, our server again. And he is bone dry. Bone dry. And I'm like, oh, okay.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Maybe like.

[Yan Stastny]

Like we described this and kind of had fun with it. Maybe Pasha's not going to get to witness it. Well, we all throw in our drinks. Well, he goes back to the. To the kitchen to mix and these cocktails, and he comes out me. So Pasha, he was the second last to order a drink, and I was the last. And Pasha's like, you know what? I'll get a. I'll get a margarita. I said, you know what? I'll get a margarita too, Gaston. So he fucking

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

shakes right away.

[Yan Stastny]

He comes out after being bone dry when we got there, and he is leaking, bro. He is leaking. So I'm nudging Pasha beside me, and I'm like, okay, sure enough, he fucked. He's leaning over to drop off the first set of drinks, and that beat of sweat is just dangling. It's dangling. He comes back up, the second person leans right over, and that bead of sweat drops either in my margarita or Pasha's margarita, buddy. Direct shot. Battleship has sunk. Direct hit.

[Dave Tippett]

Direct hit.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

You wanted salt on the rim. Correct, sir.

[Dave Tippett]

Oh, yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

Everywhere. So we don't know who got the salty salt bay sweat bay in the drink.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

What did he. Making the drink. Like, he was dry made the drinks, and that's what makes him leave Pasha come on in.

[Ryan Whitney]

Or he's probably shake waiting.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Or he's, like, eating lotus flower, like, pounding out a girl in the back before he's making the drink.

[Yan Stastny]

That's. That's the other thing. Posh.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

You guys. You guys undersold it. It was like a scene out of a movie. It wasn't even beads of sweat. It was like a steady stream of sweat. And, like, at one point, he, like, comes over, like, Joey asked a question about the menu. He's leaning over. He's just leaking all over Joey's pants. Joey's, like, trying to get out of the way. It was insane. But, like, something about him, like, he was so charming and nice that you,

[Dave Tippett]

like, weren't, like, rattled on him.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

It just kind of like you were just kind of like, yep, this is part of the experience. And, like, it was straight out of a comedy movie and we were losing our shit. Don't you think, like, the GM there or the manager's been like, gaston, you gotta bring a sweat towel all the time.

[Yan Stastny]

There's been time. There's been times. Where he's had like a. Like a scarf or. What do you call those? Like a. The Afghan. What do you call those?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

A burqa?

[Yan Stastny]

No, not a burqa. No, those.

[PFT Commenter]

Those.

[Yan Stastny]

Those. Like it's a set of ties. Sometimes they wear them on tv.

[Dave Tippett]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

He only wears that when Pasha comes. Oh, okay.

[Ryan Whitney]

So is he sweating into the food as well, or.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

He drives.

[Dave Tippett]

I think you're getting.

[Yan Stastny]

I think you're getting the full experience.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

He's sweating into everything.

[Ryan Whitney]

He opens up your beef Wellington and then, like the sweat goes into it and then he closes it back up.

[Dave Tippett]

Do you think anyone.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Do you think anyone who goes to this restaurant regularly, like, if they're listening right now, is like dying laughing? Because they all.

[Yan Stastny]

I think that I will get a mix of text messages from the friends that I know who go there all the time being pissed that they might be on the no Fly list, because I got Pasha. Do you have a picture in the group chat of the French chef who's like 80 years old? Like, this whole, like, I'll pull it up. You could make. You could make a movie based on this restaurant. It feels like it's out of a Disney movie. Like, the 80 year old chef, like, Posh will pull up a picture of him. Like, he came out. But the thing is, though, I think that. I think there's a lot of people who are on the no Fly list in this restaurant. It's always half full, but it's incredible. It may be have to do with the people that complain about Sweat Bay,

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

but they've chose Sweat Bay over those people. They're like, no, he's like, this our guy.

[Yan Stastny]

That's our guy.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I respect the loyalty for the sweat.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah. Do you have it?

[Ryan Whitney]

This is.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

This is Gaston.

[Yan Stastny]

That's.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

This is.

[Yan Stastny]

No, no, that's the chef. That's the only.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah. If he doesn't like you, you're blacklisted. So Biz is probably on that list now. He's like the Soup Nazi. Like, no sweat for you.

[Yan Stastny]

No sweat for you.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Well, Gaston's a Soup Nazi because you order a salad, then he brings you a bowl of soup.

[Dave Tippett]

You're like, what is this?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Sweatsuit. Yeah. It's like whatever they want to give you, you're having with a little side of sweat.

[Yan Stastny]

So if that was my last sweaty memorial, if that was my last ever meal at the Deep Cove Chalet, then. Then so be it.

[Dave Tippett]

At least.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

And Biz had to go. Biz jumped in the ocean after his meal. He was somehow less salty after Jumping in the ocean than after his main course. Oh, my God.

[Dave Tippett]

So good.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

What a week, boys. What an absolute week. We've all had our adventures. Incredible. And we have Dave Tippett. We're gonna throw it over to Dave Tippett.

[Dave Tippett]

Who?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Man, I always thought he was like a dead serious kind of grump based on his look behind the bench.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, he's got resting, wretching, coach, coach face.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

But man, this guy was so fun to talk to and hearing stories about coaching both of you guys. Like, I really enjoyed this interview. I think everyone listening will enjoy hearing from him. I also didn't know and I feel, I feel bad. Some of these guys who, they weren't like, you know, big name. It's like, it's like me as a player, right? If I didn't have the podcast, like, nobody would remember me as an NHL. Well, they may fallen cup champ, foul and cup champ. But like Dave Tippett, I didn't even really know. I didn't know how good of a career he had. You know, he played for a long time and then he just is more well known as a coach. So we're going to throw it over to him right now. Dave Tippett, everyone. Guys, we're going to take a minute, talk about pinned golf, pin golf. The range finders, they got the caddy, which is the tablet. I had the rangefinder going, the American flag rangefinder. All fouling, cup, all foul and cup. I was using this thing, getting the distances all dialed in with my rangefinder. We get the caddy tablet in the middle. It's awesome. Pin golf has so many different options. All these different cool rangefinders, all these different colors and the caddy, that is the number one thing that is their go to. That is what everyone should have in their golf cart. Enjoy it. And right now you can shop pins National Golf month sale and get dialed in for the rest of the season. The sale is going to be huge. All month long, everything on their website is up to 50% off. So go get right now pingolf.com and check out the sale. 50% off. That's no joke. Shout out Pin golf. Guys, I want to talk about body armor. And I want to talk about body army body armor and Gaston Biz's waiter. Because this episode is brought to you by Body Armor Flash iv. Flash IV is packed with electrolytes delivering faster, longer lasting hydration without any artificial dyes, flavors or sweeteners. Whether you're training, traveling, or just feeling the heat, work hard and hydrate hard with body armor flash. Ib grab it at a 711 today. It's a pleasure now to be joined by a man who played over 700 NHL games, won an IHL championship as a coach, won a Jack Adams as a coach in the NHL, and I guess most importantly, coach, the two doofuses that I'm on this podcast with, Dave Tippett. What's going on, Tip?

[Dave Tippett]

Hey, not much, guys. Just living the good life right now. A little retirement and playing lots of golf and that's about it.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I know you came on. You said, I got no more alarm clocks. I'm retired. Which is what a. What a nice thought that is. Where are you living now?

[Dave Tippett]

Actually, our main house is in Flagstaff, Arizona. But then we just bought another. We were in Scottsdale for a long time, and then retirement took me away from the hustle and bustle and I built the house up in Flagstaff, but now we decided we just bought another one in Scottsdale. So I'm in Scottsdale right now, just kind of taking care of things. But yeah, most of the time at Flagstaff, where it's a little cooler.

[Yan Stastny]

You look great, Tip. I mean, you look. You look younger now than you did when you were coaching.

[Dave Tippett]

Is that no mustache, full beard. You know what, Biz, I don't have guys like you and Yance I got to worry about all the time now. My biggest Worry is a 16 year old grandson now, so that's a lot easier than you guys.

[Yan Stastny]

I think we could do a whole podcast on times that I got called in for my. My dumb tweets and all the shenanigans.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

That's all I want to hear about. I played for every coach forever and I'm just like, what was it like coaching Biz?

[Ryan Whitney]

Tip never coached him. It was more Dave King just bag skating him. Tip. Tip was coaching the real players.

[Dave Tippett]

You know what? I think that was good for you, Bizzo. He. He taught you a lot of stuff there. Like he was. He's taught him how to tweet. Yeah. Hey, you know what I tell you, I. It was just. I don't know if you were tweeting when you got to Arizona, Biz, but just after you started and it got to. Somebody kept telling me this biz is tweeting this stuff. And I didn't know what a tweet is or I've still never been on a tweet, or I've never had any kind of social media. But. But so these the. Remember Rich Naron, our media guy says, tip, you gotta watch what Biz is putting on this tweet stuff. So I. So he's bringing these in and showing me in the morning, and I'm just. Just laughing my ass off, you know, And. And then there was a couple times it went over the line.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, you think?

[Dave Tippett]

So he brought it down to me. He goes. He goes dip. I don't know, we might have to talk to Biz about this a little bit, you know. So I said, well, just bring me. Show me his tweets every morning when you come in my office. Just show me what he's doing. And. And I would just laugh. But then. But then there was a few nights, like the night in Winnipeg that was

[Ryan Whitney]

the maddest I've ever seen you.

[Yan Stastny]

Not well, until the Rafi Taurus Halloween costume tweet.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, that was a good one. The one. You know, the guy that was more scared than I was at the Winnipeg win was Bronco or our travel guy. That's right, because they called him over whatever was a $10 bottle of water, and they were kicking our whole team out of the hotel because Biz tweeted, what is this? Ten dollar water?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Wait, they actually. I didn't know they actually. Or they tried to boot you guys or. They did.

[Yan Stastny]

I had to go back with my tail between my legs and.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, we had to. We. Well, put it this way. There's nowhere else to stay in Winnipeg, so there's nowhere else to go. But, yeah, that was. That was one. I was just getting ready. You know, my dad lived in Winnipeg. I was just getting ready to go out to dinner, and all of a sudden Bralco tweets or calls me and says, we got an issue tip. They're kicking us out of the hotel. Oh, it might.

[Ryan Whitney]

Mind you, there's 9, 000 free waters in the. In the meal room downstairs.

[Yan Stastny]

Brought up just a loser rookie idiot. Healthy scratch, almost cost. We lost that game, too. I'm like, oh, I wanted to crawl under. Under. Under the bus, under the plane. I didn't want to. Come on. Come on, top.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Did you play? Did you play that game? No, no, no, no, no.

[Ryan Whitney]

He was going.

[Dave Tippett]

We hit him under the bus. He wasn't crawling. We told him we had to tell him he was sleep. We told the hotel business. Sleeping on the bus tonight. Everybody else is staying in the hotel.

[Yan Stastny]

So I. I don't know if you knew about, like, the fact that they wanted to kick us off until, like, after pregame skate, because we had pregame skate and you seemed like you were in a pretty jolly mood. And then I remember I started a bag skiing with Jimmy Playfair. And then you skated over to him and you said something, and I could tell there was no, no, no more buddy, buddy between me and Jimmy Playfair. And I'm like, this. Like, this bag skate seems way more aggressive than normal. And as soon it was done, I was like, stretching my groin, like. And he's like, taps you on the shin pad. He goes, hey, Tip wants to see you in his office. So my wheels are spinning. I'm like, what? Like, what did I do? Like, what did I do? I couldn't. I didn't remember that. The tweet that I sent about the water. So I get in and Tips pacing back and forth. I walk to the coach's office, and he points at his computer screen, and I see the little Fiji water bottle. And I'm like, no, no. He goes, get your gear off. Go back to the Fairmont and apologize to the manager so we can fucking get pregame now.

[Dave Tippett]

They were holding back. They were holding back the chicken breast for the rest of the. The team.

[Yan Stastny]

Everybody was lined up at Timmy's underneath, on the. In the walkway, the underground tunnel, just to get some food before the game. Oh, that was brutal.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Wait, so, Tip, so that year was when you guys grabbed Biz off waivers from Pittsburgh and camp, right? Biz, training camp?

[Yan Stastny]

No, this was a few years after that. But no, but.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Okay, so the year Biz got there, right? Yeah, it was training campish. Did you. Were you part of the decision to take him on waivers or with Don Maloney just saying, hey, we just grabbed this guy?

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, we talked to him. We talked about it. But you know what? We. He was. You were kind of stuck in between forward and defense, and I think Pittsburgh had played you a few games on forward, and we were looking for somebody for a little grit, and Don asked me about it, and Biz showed up. And I think it was a really good match for both of us because we needed him. We needed his energy, and he needed a change to get some ice. Time worked out good.

[Yan Stastny]

Just never got to nobody doing helicopter in the locker room.

[Dave Tippett]

Well, I tell you what, Biz, there was a lot of days, and not just people in our organization, but I used to have friends, you know, where I lived. And you were everybody's favorite player because somehow everybody was getting on Twitter, and between Twitter and your radio shows, some of the stuff that was coming on. I would have people tell me that they just sat in their car and laughed at this. What was going on so say, hey, we were try. We were trying to get fans all over the place. Biz. It was a. It was a good organizational pluck because we got. We got entertainment and hockey player.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, not much game action, but you got it all. All the other.

[Dave Tippett]

We had. We had some good times.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, it was unbelievable. Like those teams, like, let's shift the focus us over to Yan's. Like, I mean, like, like you probably had. Had been. You'd seen him play because you were in Dallas before you got to Phoenix. But I mean, just like the, The. The laughs that he would bring the locker room. And I don't know if you know that he can do an unbelievable Dave Tippett impression.

[Dave Tippett]

You know what?

[Ryan Whitney]

I'm not gonna do that right now. We got Dave Tippett on the line here. Okay, Biz busy.

[Yan Stastny]

Tell him the Chip story. I don't know if he knows it.

[Ryan Whitney]

It was right before trade deadline and Kyle Chipchar, I believe we were in Winnipeg at the time. Hotel, phone, pretending I was you. And I'm like, hey, Chip, it's Tip. Gonna need you to come down to room 607. Gonna have a chat with you about this deadline coming up. And he comes down and I. I'm looking at him through the peephole, he's like almost crying. And I open it up, I'm like, ah, I got you.

[Dave Tippett]

I didn't know that story. That's a good one. Yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Oh, my.

[Yan Stastny]

You got the other funny Yan stories too?

[Dave Tippett]

Well, you know what Yan's was. Yan's was like. I knew him a little bit, like you say, from Dallas, but I got there and everybody loved Jan. He was everybody's friend, but he was like. He was like a young bull on the ice. He's just running all over the place, right? So as Jan started to mature a little bit and Yan's was kind of. Alfie was the first D coach I had with me there, and he was kind of in and out. And Yan's. How old were you then, Jens? It was your, you know, your second or third year, 20, 21, and his play was a little erratic and Alfie would play a little more sometimes and a little less sometimes. And I think it was the second year when Jimmy Playfair came and we had a bunch of injuries and Jimmy played you. I think it was almost 35 minutes one night, and you were unbelievable. And that just stayed like that the rest. The rest of the time you were in Phoenix.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

It just crazy how that worked.

[Dave Tippett]

It went from 15 minutes to 30 minutes and I think you're a top three. The scoring there a couple years for us.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Dave Tippett]

So it was. That was a. That was a nice surprise right there that you just went from. From an erratic kid to a 30 minute minute muncher and getting lots of points. And we had good teams there. Like, we had good teams. We had good guys around you. Like Derek Morris was a great guy around. Your Okie Jovo was there for a year. I mean we had. We had some really good people around, but. And Z was there. I mean it's. Those were. Those teams I think were the epitome of what a team should be like. We had so much fun. We. Everybody liked each other. There was nobody. Like, there was little niches here and there. Like the year we had biz or. Yeah, Briz in goal, like he was

[Yan Stastny]

kind of on his own planet.

[Dave Tippett]

He was on his own planet, but he was still like, he was a big part of our team. Not just because he was a good goalie, because he was the planet he was on. He would step in for the games and he'd play.

[Yan Stastny]

He was unreal.

[Dave Tippett]

And we worked with him. Like he was one of the only guys that. Remember we were practicing out in Glendale and then we didn't want to go out there for morning skate. It was too far to go, so. But Briz always wanted to have morning skates. So him and Berkey would go out there alone and then in most days I would give Briz the day off the day before because he was playing so much. It was a weird circumstance that we would have. We were looking for a goalie for practice, you know, the day before. But I tell you what, Briz would get in there and he'd stand on his head for us and it worked for us, you know, so we had. Everybody had their little niche on the team. It was, it was, it was a good group, a really good group.

[Ryan Whitney]

Tip. I'll never forget the. The old bull and the young bull story that you told me, but it's basically what you said. And I don't know if you can tell that story. What of this? Of the young bull and the old bull?

[Dave Tippett]

Wow. We're. That was when you were kind of changing, you know, because you were a guy that you wanted to do everything. You wanted to just get that puck behind your net, skate as far as you can and, and, and see what happened. And sometimes that worked and sometimes it didn't. And. And Briz would. Briz would get. Yance, what are you doing? Yeah, so I remember it was in this, I think you were sitting in your stall one day. It might have. Something might have happened the night before or whatever. And we sat down and I'm sure a lot of people know about the old bull and young bull. And I was telling you, you got to turn into the old bull now, because young bull, you see all the cows down there, and you just want to run down and one of those cows and then the old bull, you walk down and them all. So. So that was the day that Yance turned into an old bull. Right there.

[Yan Stastny]

It really hit home. He just starts doing sea cuts instead of taking strides up the ice.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, he just. He was. He was Lindstrom. He just dump it off and watch everybody go up the ice and sit back there with a smile on his

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

face, you know, started playing in a rocking chair. Oh, my God.

[Yan Stastny]

Hey, speaking of bag skates, though. And Alfie would. Would bag you pretty hard, though. You're like first year or two yens when you were there, like, you were kind of in and out of the lineup to some degree.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, Alfie was nasty to me, but I needed it. I needed it all. But yeah, he was. And remember Alfie, he was still in unbelievable shape. Like, he'd do the skates with me. I mean, his knees barely work, but, like, he would. He'd be out there doing the skates with me. But we'd go like probably 30 minutes after practice, just me and him, bag skating.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Straight bag, no pucks.

[Ryan Whitney]

Straight bag, no pucks. Yeah. And Jimmy Playfair was bad with me, too, but I. I end up loving Jimmy. Me and him, we butted heads in the beginning, and then we end up loving each other.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Tip like you were. You guys had some really good teams in Dallas like that. Your second last year, Detroit, you lost Detroit conference finals. They were incredible. And then you missed the playoffs and you move on to Phoenix. Did you and all. They hadn't made the playoffs in years. And all of a sudden you get there and you're in three years in a row. Like, what did you know about Phoenix or that team when you went there?

[Dave Tippett]

Well, it was. It was kind of a weird situation because Phoenix was. They were caught up in that bankruptcy, you know, and I got let go. They changed general manager and everybody in Dallas, and so I got let go. I had a couple years in my contract, and Don Maloney called me and said, look, this is the situation we're in. Would you ever look at coming out here? And I kind of looked at their team. You know, the one thing they Had, I love, you know, donor, obviously, great leader. They had some parts there that said, you know, they're a better team than they're showing. And so I ended up. Actually, I didn't even get there in training camp because there was a. There was a bunch of stuff going on with the ownership thing, and I wanted to make sure the two years left of my contract was. Was, you know, I still got that, and that wasn't going to be tied up in the bankruptcy and everything. So it was kind of a pain in the ass to start with. Now, the funny story about that start, because I. I hired Dave King to come along with me. And so Kinger, I. I've been in Russia, right? Yeah, he'd been in Russia. And I had Kinger in both the Olympics I played in, and we were good friends. He's. He's like a mad scientist coach, right? He's just. He's one of the most knowledgeable guys in the world and in, you know, structure of hockey. But. So I wanted to bring him in and. But he went there about a week early. I couldn't. I couldn't get in. They wouldn't let me come to the team until all this legal stuff was done.

[Ryan Whitney]

So.

[Dave Tippett]

And Alfie and I played together for a long time in Hartford and Pittsburgh. So Alfie was still there. He was running camp. I was talking to Alfie as camp was going on, and he was running all the stuff. And. And so Kinger came in. There was about a week before, and I think you guys. I think it was an exhibition game up in Glens Falls or Spokane. Spokane or somewhere. Yeah, or Everett.

[Yan Stastny]

I think it might have been Everett.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah. And King called, or Alfie calls me. He says, kinger got here. They just took him out on a strip. Sure. Kinger's dead. Kinger's death. And I said, what? He goes, we were just sitting in the office and he. And all of a sudden he just tipped over and was down. And I guess he was dehydrated or something, I don't know. But I left. I said, alfie, what is going on? He goes, I don't know. I think Kinger's dead.

[Ryan Whitney]

I was in. I was in the room, and Petey the video guy, funny as hell, and he just kept yelling, kinger's dead.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

King is dead.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, he was alive and well, but. But then we got there and. And you know what? It was just. It was such a fun place to be around. We had. All the guys were. I think the whole bankruptcy thing is galvanized Things and, and we just had so much fun. I laugh now. I look back, I remember Gary Bettman called me and said, thanks Tip for, you know, coming in there because the, the league basically owned the team. And, and you know, was saying, you know, it'll be, I think things will be resolved in like two weeks or a month. Things will be resolved. We were still like five years later. Yeah, exactly. And then we got owners in it and the league treated us so well, but the owners came in and kind of changed the whole dynamic of it. So it changed a lot then. But we had, it was, those were the, some of the funnest years of my coaching career, those first three, because we had, we were under, you know, we're overachieving all the time, having fun. Teams would always say, oh, we should beat that team, but we'd always walk out. But you didn't, you know, so we, we had, we had a good group, really good group. The ultimate.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

The first year you guys won 50 games that year. That's, yeah, that's a season right there.

[Yan Stastny]

And then, and then the year we went to the conference finals, we won our division. And I don't think that had happened since like the Ronick and, and Kachuk era and.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

Are we, and then, then Briz took off. I think after year one, Briz left because he signed that big deal in Philly. And then I think that you had had Mike Smith in Dallas.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

So I, I, I really felt that you and Don Maloney work so well together to get guys at great value and then like essentially resurrect their careers. Like Mike Smith came in and I think did he win the Vesna that year or was he like second in voting?

[Dave Tippett]

I think he was in the boating there.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah.

[Dave Tippett]

Schmitty was a good guy. One of the hardest days I ever had in Dallas was we traded Schmitty, Schmitty and Jeff Halpern, I think, to Tampa. And, and I like Schmitty a lot. I remember the first day I walked into, we drafted Schmitty and he walked in, long hair and he's, he just looks like an athlete, but he was just a raw like 18 or 19 year old kid. I just looked at, I remember I looked at Doug Armstrong and said, who the hell is this? You know, that's Smitty, he's the goalie. Right? But, but he, I tell you what, he's still one of my favorite players all time and probably one of the best athletes I think I've ever coached. He, he is an Athlete. But you know what? I had him in Dallas where he started, and then we got him in Phoenix and then I took him. I convinced Kenny Holland to bring him up to Edmonton too, where he was really good. So he's. He's one of my favorites, that one. But he. He upped it a lot too. He fit in well with our group there.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah. And he was so good at playing the puck. And obviously you had Marty Turco, who was really good at playing the puck too. And I'll never forget you said, yance, he might cost you a couple minuses every year, but, like, you're not going to get hit nearly as much because of how good he was at playing the puck. And we were never in our own end because of that.

[Dave Tippett]

No, exactly. I remember. I'll tell you a funny story about Dallas is we had Sergey Zubov, who was an unbelievable player, right. And. And smart defensive and moved the puck on Baloo. And I remember there was. We had. I forget who our backup goalie was. I think it was Ron Tugnut. And we had Turk, who I like to play all the time. And the D. Love them, you know, they. He just moved the puck so much. But when we put tug nut in, Tug nut couldn't move the puck very well. And Zubi was like, he didn't want to play. Like he didn't want to go up, guys. And Zubi says dip. I don't know. I get hit too much like this, you know, so. But when I know it. Yeah. He was the first guy off the ice after a game and brought me back to my first years, as in the NHL. I remember the first day I walked into the NHL dressing room, they had a snow no smoking in the dressing room sign on. I thought, holy crow, these guys smoke, you know, But. But Zubi. Zubi would be the first guy off. He'd have a smoke in the. In the shower before anybody else got there. Yeah, right.

[Yan Stastny]

Like on the. In the road or even at home.

[Dave Tippett]

At home, too. Yeah. He'd be.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

He'd be.

[Dave Tippett]

He'd sneak in there as quick as he could, he'd have a smoke and he'd be out before anybody else got in there. But. But anyway, he. He. Schmitty's puck movement, you know, Turk helped him a ton. Schmitty was a great athlete too. But then when he got to our team in Phoenix, it changed the whole way we played back there because we had good defensemen, but. But we played way less in our zone. And now and then, like you say, he'd give up one, but he'd save a lot more than he ever gave up.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

It's kind of crazy that Biz and Keith have both told me a bunch about Sean Burke as the goalie coach.

[Dave Tippett]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I mean, how many different goalies has he just, like, completely not fixed, but just changed their careers? Because, like, Devin Dubnik went to you guys. Then he became incredible. Mike Smith, he's done in a lot of places, so. Had you known him prior?

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, we played in the Olympics together in 92. He was our goalie, and I was playing for Washington, and Washington, that's when pros could play. It wasn't like stopping the league or anything, but Washington let me go and play. And in the Olympics, I played for Dave King in 84. Before I started, it was the 84 Olympics in Sarajevo, and then I signed with Hartford, but I was with Sauer going to the Olympics, and we lost in the bronze medal game to Sweden. We were all a bunch of kids. And then Kinger asked me if there was any chance that Washington would let you go, because I was getting along in my career there, and David Poyle let me go, and Berkey was our goalie. So we had a good team. We had Lindros and Joey Juno and Pretty good team. And we ended up losing to Russia in the gold medal game. So I got a silver. But Schmitty, or, I mean, Berkey was our goal, and he was unbelievable. Unbelievable. And then, you know what? He. He had great success with the big goaltenders because Berkey went through it in his career where he had to change a little bit. And I think his thing was to go a little deeper in the net and use his size. So all those guys that came through, he really kind of put his stamp on them of how he changed his career. And like you say, he. He helped a lot of guys. Like, he made a lot of guys a lot of money.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Dave Tippett]

Just by. Just by, you know, getting their career back going again.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I'd love to talk about your playing career. And you just brought it up. It kind of answered my question, because I saw you played in that Olympics in 92, but you were in the NHL. So that guys were going from the NHL then. Was that common?

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, they had. There was. Well, it was the first time that they were letting pros play, the North American pros, you know, so there was. There was probably a handful. There was Kirk Giles and Dave Hannah myself, and there were some guys. Like, Eric Lindros was a young guy coming in. Joey Juno was a young guy. Berkey was in that too. Like Berkey was looking for a job. He had left to go play with the Canadian national team. To.

[Yan Stastny]

He was. Was he holding out with Hartford or something?

[Dave Tippett]

I forget what it was, but he wasn't playing the league. He might have been in a contract dispute somewhere. And. And he knew Kinger from before, too. So it was, you know what Kinger asked me at the start of the year? Would you ever talk to David Poyle about it? So I had. I talked to David Poyle and he said, well, let's visit it as the year goes on. And we had a good team in Washington. We were well in the playoffs by February when we had to leave or whatever. And I remember David Poyle. I went in, it was about a week before Team Canada left to go to the Olympics. And King our phone, me and said, you want to talk to Poyle? I said, well. And I went in, talked to him. David said, no, I don't think, you know, things are going good right now. I was playing online with Dale Hunter and Dino Cicarelli, and I. I was, you know, having a pretty good year. And then the day before they were supposed to leave, Poyle called me at 7 o' clock in the morning. And when the general manager calls you seven in the morning, that's not usually

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

a good thing unless it's Keith being the general manager.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, yeah. And he said, tip, we decided, you know, we got some young players, we're solid in, in the playoffs here. If you want to go, go. And I called Kinger and Kinger said, we just put our list in. Let me see what I can do. He called me back about half an hour later. He goes, yeah, you're in if you want. And so I was living in. Where's the. Just outside of Washington there in Annapolis. That afternoon I got on a plane, I flew to Iceland. I stayed the night in Iceland, flew into Sweden the next morning, and I played the final game of the Globen cup. And then we went straight to the Olympics. And I played in the Olympics for 10 games. And I got back, I cracked a rib, but I was still playing and they were freezing it up. I got back to Washington and I didn't play for two weeks. They wouldn't let me play. So I missed about a month. I told Poyle, I said, you don't have to pay me. And he paid me anyway. So it was. It was a good experience all the way around.

[Yan Stastny]

That's unreal.

[Ryan Whitney]

That must have been so much different. From your first Olympics, too, being a young guy and you were the older guy with all those young guys, that must have been a cool experience. Is that kind of where you figured maybe you'd be a coach one day?

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, I mean, I. I don't know. I just. I was lucky. The coaches I had, like, the junior coach I had was Terry Simpson, who coached in the Islanders and Philly. A little bit different guys, like, he. He was a real rugged guy. Right. Like you. We had tough teams and. And, you know, hard coach, but in. When you're a junior player, you need that. And then Gino Gasparini in college, we won a championship. And then Kinger, who was really a, you know, a top. Top tactician guy, and. And, you know, so, I don't know. I had good coaches along the way, but I kind of just, you know, you finish the. You finish playing, you don't want to play anymore, and you just. What are you going to do? And I wanted to stay around the game. And the year that I actually was going to quit, I played in Philadelphia, and there was going to be a lockout the next year. I had two young kids, and so I ended up going to Houston, and I was going to be assistant coach with Houston, and they were an expansion team, and so they were having trouble finding players. So Pete Deneen was the gm. He said, would you play? So I was going from the NHL and I went to Houston. Assistant coach in Houston. I was going to make 35 grand. And they said, if you play and coach, we'll give you 75 grand. And I said, you know what? Here's what we're going to do. Then. All the things they never, ever let me do in the NHL, like power play and all that fun stuff, I'm doing it, all right? I took shootouts. I played point on the power play. I did. Yeah, I did.

[Ryan Whitney]

I did, I think, 66 points. Yeah, you showed up points.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, yeah. So we weren't a very good team. We were an expansion team. But I had a lot of fun. And the next year, I remember I went to. You know how the guys are skating before camp, and I was thinking I was going to play one more year, and I'm skating with everybody down in Houston. And about two or three days before camp started, I was skating, and we bagged each other out there. And I just came in the dressing room, I was sitting on the bench, I took my equipment off, I put it in the bag, and I picked up my bag and walked out of the rink. And I remember Steve Sumner, the trainer, was looking at me. He goes, tip, why are you taking your equipment? He goes, I'll talk to you tomorrow. And I went home, I put the equipment in the garage. I told my wife, I'm not playing anymore. I'm going to go in the office tomorrow and say, hey, if you don't want me here, I'm not playing anymore. I'd like to coach, but I'm not playing anymore. And you let me know. And they said, all right, you can be assistant coach. And I probably went down to 35 grand again. But at that point, my body was just like, I'm not doing this anymore. And that was one bag ste too many. And that's when I quit playing.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Wow. So not one of those like, oh, I wish I was still playing regrets. You just knew that's it?

[Dave Tippett]

No, no. I just said, I'm not doing this anymore, and started coaching. And then that. That year, I was just assistant coach, and they fired the coach halfway through, and I took over the team. And then I was head coach for two years. And I was general manager coach for. For two years. And then my fifth year, we won that. We won the Turner Cup. So it was that. You know what? Talk about that was one of the best experiences. I would recommend that to any coach that, like, started in the minor as an assistant coach, head coach, and then you even dealing with contracts and stuff like that and travel. I remember I left there, I went to Los Angeles as an assistant coach, and the first meeting I was sitting in with Kings. Dave Taylor was the gm. I remember everybody introducing themselves around the room, and I just sat there, I said, I did that job. That job, that job, that job, right. It was the best experience to give me experience to move up in the coaching ranks that I could ever had. Now, that was fun time, especially when you win. It doesn't matter if it's minors or whatever. We had a great, a fun group and we won. And I look back at that. That was a key for me. And trying to move on to an ncl NHL coaching.

[Yan Stastny]

Before we get back to your playing days, was it intimidating going from being an assistant in LA to all of a sudden you're coaching in Dallas, where they'd kind of been what just won a cup like, two, three years prior. So all of a sudden your head coach of, like, Madonna. You mentioned Zubov. Like, like, what. What was it like your first year as NHL head coach?

[Dave Tippett]

I'd been coaching enough, so I felt comfortable. You know, you get behind the bench and you at Least you feel like you know what the hell you're doing, you know, a little bit. But it is intimidating. You know, you get to the NHL and especially expectations were high. Like, Doug Armstrong is a great general manager, but his. They had high, high expectations. So it's. It was kind of interesting, you know, jumping in there, but had good people. Like, I knew Modano from before. My brother actually coached Modano in, in junior, so I knew Madano from before. My trainer from Houston was actually the equipment manager there. So I was comfortable with the people I was there. Rick Wilson, the assistant coach, was actually my coach and junior from the same hometown, Prince Albert, Saskatchewan. So I was comfortable with the coaching staff there. It was. It was a. I had a couple other opportunities and Dallas was the one that I thought was the best fit. So it, it made the transition easier.

[Yan Stastny]

You're from Prince Albert. It says Musomin.

[Dave Tippett]

I was born in Musomen, little, little town in southern Saskatchewan, but moved away from there. You'll like this. I was Musimon and then Regina and then Prince Albert.

[Ryan Whitney]

Beautiful.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

How did you. How did North Dakota find you or you find North Dakota? Like, and, and I mean, we've talked to a lot of guys that played college back when it wasn't that common for Canadians, and a lot of them were at North Dakota, it seemed.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, my brother had left it like the, The. There's a few teams, the college teams did a lot of scouting in the tier 2 junior leagues in Canada and North Dakota took a lot of players from. From out west there. My brother ended up going to Michigan, actually. He played four years at Michigan, so there was kind of that template was he was an older brother, so he'd been down there a couple years. You know what, I was a small. I had a chance to play major junior and I didn't. Didn't take it. And I was a smaller guy, played tier two junior and, you know, had some, some colleges kind of looking at me. And finally North Dakota jumped out and they were the. They had just won the national championship, I think year before, two years before. Their facilities, their coaching, everything was just top notch. So, you know, went there our freshman year. There was six freshmen that played on that team and we won the national championship my freshman year. All six freshmen played in the NHL. There was James Patrick, Dave Donnelly, Gord Sherman and myself. We only played two years and then we went to the Olympics. Rick Zombo and then Jim Archibald. All six guys played in the NHL. But we wanted.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

And this team had Craig Ludwig too. Did he have those shin pads then.

[Dave Tippett]

Oh, yeah, let's wash. He had those. We had Craig Ludwig, we had Troy Murray, Phil Sykes. I think there were 16 guys on that team that played pro. Not all in the NHL, but off a college team, played pro. So it was. Yeah, that was. I needed that. And, you know, when you come from junior, that's back in. I mean, you're looking at early 80s. We weren't even lifting weights then. I mean, I played soccer in the summer to stay in shape, not lift weights. And you get to college, you play two games a week, and I needed it. I was a small guy that I was playing £150, and you go and you work out all week and then you play two games in the weekend. That was exactly what I needed. So happened to happen to turn out right place at the right time.

[Ryan Whitney]

Being that small, coming up, like, when you were in college, was there hopes that you were going to play in the NHL, or was it kind of like, I'm going to take this as far as I can?

[Dave Tippett]

No, you know what? My last year, junior playing in Prince Albert, we won the Centennial Championship, the Canadian Championship, and Terry Simpson was our coach. And we had five guys drafted off our team that year. James Patrick was ninth overall off a tier two team. And I remember Terry Simpson came to me and said, tip, there's some teams out there that are maybe talking about drafting you. And I said, oh, that'd be great. He said, do you have an agent? I said, I have no agent. I have nothing. Right. So I said, I'm not sure what's going to happen. And so I didn't get drafted. I was undrafted and then went to North Dakota, and there was a guy named Dave McNabb that was a scout for Hartford. And he came up to me one day in North Dakota and introduced himself. And to this day, I probably owe him a huge thanks because he was one of the guys that was really kind of behind me to say, hey, we're watching you. Keep going, you know, do your thing. And then I ended up being captain of the Canadian Olympic team after two years. Emil Francis was the GM in. In Hartford. He came to see me with Dave McNabb one time, and as soon as the Olympics were over, I signed with Hartford and went straight there. So I got. Had one. One scout that liked me and didn't, you know, I was getting a little bigger, thought maybe there was some potential. And then I was. I was so scared. I got to the NHL, and back then, if you ever got hurt, you're A kid you'd never want to get out of the lineup. I played my first 417 games straight without missing one. Not quite as good as. Not quite as good as you, Yan. Yours was a little ahead of that, but I played 417 games straight and never missed a game. I was scared in hell to get out of the lineup, thinking I'd never

[Yan Stastny]

get back in defensive center. That's what you were like a third line defensive center. You, you were telling me that you were sometimes responsible for. For shutting down Cam Neely. And back then you would just.

[Dave Tippett]

Basically, I was, I was a winger. Yeah, that's exactly. He'd elbow me in the head going down the ice and I'd have my stick wrapped around him. But yeah, I was center. I was center all the way. And then I got to Hartford, they had a guy named Mike Zook. My first year was a defensive center. And then they traded for Doug Jarvis, who was my centerman for. For about three or four years. So I've. I switched the wing. But a lot of those big guys I used to. I used to get. And. And it was, it was no fun. They just beat the shit out of me. But I still try to do my job. But I'll tell you a funny story about that with. And you guys know Wayne. I know Wayne well now, too, but the first time I went into Edmonton, our coach was Jack Evans. And there was, you know, Edmonton's lineup was written on the blackboard and. And Jack took my number and circled it and said, you got 99 tonight. And I go, oh, this is what, my 10th game in the league, you know? And so I'm out there first shift, I'm out there, I'm following Gretz around, and I'm just like, he's going places. I'm going, like, what the hell's he doing over here? There's nobody here, you know. And it was about a minute into the shift and he took a stick and we were both skating up there and he kind of stuck it in front of my skate and I tripped over. And they called him for tripping and their bench exploded, right? I'm skating back to the bench. I got some make just screaming at me, don't go near him again. I'm 10 games in. I'm going, I just tripped Wayne Gretzky. And now this team is going to kill me, you know, so it was. That was my job for a long time, to chase people around and stay with people.

[Yan Stastny]

And what was the stat line that night?

[Dave Tippett]

You know what I. I Ended up even. He got a point on the power play, but not. I didn't. I didn't. He didn't get anything. He probably was so, like, this little guy chasing me around. I'll just do it, you know, like, too much aggravation for tonight, you know,

[Ryan Whitney]

it's six points the next night.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, but I just got through that. I. Dave King had hatched a plan from the Olympics that year. Pat LaFontaine was on the U.S. team, and we had hatched a plan that I was going to shadow LaFontaine all night, and we did it. We were in Germany for two games before the Olympics, and there was this guy named Eric Kunakkel who was their big star in Germany. So we played two exhibition games, and I did it to this Kunakle guy, and he was like, 6, 4. He was, like a legend and Germany. And I remember him looking at me like, what are you doing? I'm following him around the ice, you know, because Kinger and I, we were trying this. You know, this is what we're going to try on La Fontaine. It was the first game of the. Of the Olympics. And Kinger says, just go. Follow him around. And this Kunakkal guy's looking at me going, you're an idiot. Like, why are you following me around all over the place? And I couldn't tell him. I don't know if he could speak English or not. I couldn't tell him, hey, we're getting ready for the Olympics here. But we went, and we ended up beating us, and La Fontaine didn't get anything that first game, and. And that was the game we needed to win if we were going to win our pool and in the Olympics. But that's. That's where that came from. Kinger had me chasing people around.

[Yan Stastny]

Is that the first you'd ever heard of shadowing? Like, was that the.

[Dave Tippett]

Like, when he told you that, were you.

[Yan Stastny]

Like, what are you talking about?

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, like that. Like, he. You know, I had different parameters. He would give me, you. You stay above the top of the circles in the offensive zone. You find them. Wherever he is, you find him. And as soon as he got above the top of the circles, you got him all the way. All the way. And just follow him around the. Around the end zone. And we did it for two games in Germany, so the D knew that they weren't going to get help, you know, like the. From the centerman being in the middle. And he just. I stayed with them all over the ice. All over the ice, above the top of the circles in his end. Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

You know who was his teammate in Hartford? Yan's is Johnny Anderson.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, yeah, we had. He had him as an assistant.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, he was an assistant coach.

[Ryan Whitney]

He was the best. Riding his bike to work.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, Johnny. Johnny is a beauty.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Oh, he was coaching Atlanta, right?

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

He'd come back in the back of the plane, sneak some wine, then go back up front. It was he. I love Johnny.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, Johnny. I played with Johnny in Hartford too, you know, funny story about that. When he got traded to Hartford. So he was in. In Quebec and they were. We were playing Quebec and after the morning skate, Johnny got traded to us and we traded Dave Babich to. Not Dave, but Wayne Babich to them. So Johnny, I think he morning skated with Quebec in our rink and showed up for the game and played for us. Yeah, that. That's old time hockey right there, isn't it?

[Ryan Whitney]

Save some money on travel.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah. Johnny was great though. Yeah. And you'll remember this. Remember the game that we won. It was game six in Chicago, I think that was. Oh, yeah, that was that. They closed it out the first period. Chicago was out shooting us like 25 to 3 or something like that. And Johnny walks down the bench to me. He goes, tip. I just thought I'd bring it to your attention. We're getting out shot 25 to 3. I said, Johnny, I'm well aware of that, thank you.

[Ryan Whitney]

It's called the rope.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah. We said, come on, Schmitty, keep going.

[Yan Stastny]

Smitty's getting IVs in between periods.

[Ryan Whitney]

You'd have to get them after every game.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, that was the series where. Where I played one second. The one game.

[Dave Tippett]

Oh, yeah. You don't remember that? I don't remember it.

[Yan Stastny]

My tie down.

[Dave Tippett]

Oh, you know, you know what? Yeah, you played one second and got thrown. And you know what? That was when Rafi. Because they were going to come out and they said they were going to kill everybody when Rafi got suspended. Yeah, Rafi. That the Chicago media didn't like me after that one. I went after the game, they asked how. What I thought of the hit. I said, well, there used to be a game called Frogger, you know, when a guy goes out and he gets in traffic and then he goes the wrong way and it just doesn't turn out well for him. I said, raffy just hosted. It was just going the wrong way. And they didn't like that. They didn't like that very much, you know.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, man.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I'm looking at the roster of Your first year. Another guy I gotta ask about because he was so good to me and we're so close with his son Ryan. But Greg Malone, was he, was he beautiful in the locker room?

[Ryan Whitney]

Big Bugsy.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Because they called him Bugsy too. He was the OG Bugs.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah. Yeah, he's, he, Bugsy was a great guy. Great guy. In fact, that's back. We used to have, we used to have different roommates every, every road trip. I don't know, Jack Evans, when this is when you're flying commercial and you had roommates all the time. I remember the first time we walked in with Bug V. Eagles tip. The only rules are there are no rules and there is no curfew. And he ripped the phone right out of the wall. Yeah.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, so he's just like his son.

[Yan Stastny]

I get it. I get it now.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Oh, my God.

[Ryan Whitney]

So he didn't get it from his mom.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

And he was always smiling too. Just like Ryan. Both Bugs.

[Dave Tippett]

Bugsy played on a line with Bobby Crawford and Tori Robertson, and they were the funniest guys. Like, they would come to the bench and they'd argue and then they would hit each other and they, it was just hilarious to watch them. They were like our third line and just hilarious to watch them. But they were always so happy for each other when one of them scored. It was just like Bugsy was like a glue guy on a team. He was, he was a great guy. Great guy.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

And what was Q like as a player? Like, what was he like being around when he was playing?

[Yan Stastny]

Was he always about the horses, even when he was playing?

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, he was, he was, that was, he liked the horses. I, I, he used to call a move called the Lizard and it was, he would, I used to call him Slow Mo Joe. Right? Like, he, he wore these big lang skates and was slow and he'd, a guy would go around him on the outside and then he'd just take his stick and he'd stick it in his arm somehow and he'd just flick his stick or flip his arm and the guy would lose the puck. Like, the guy looks like he's around him and then he just give him the can opener. Can opener. And the guy would lose a puck. Joe would laugh at guys like, it's like he's letting them skate by him just so he can do the can opener on him, you know, he probably couldn't play now. I mean, obviously that's, that's, that's suspension almost now, but yeah, Joe was, we had good teams back, you know, it's Kind of an underachieving team boot. They have mid-80s teams in Hartford were good teams. We got Mike Liud as a goalie, was a really good goalie and then the rest of it was just a bunch of kind of journeymen other than Ronnie Francis and, and we had good teams there, real good teams. Joel was a good, solid player.

[Ryan Whitney]

Was he one of those guys you could tell was going to be a coach as well?

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, he was always a smart player and then. But right after he retired, he went into the stockbroker business and he was a broker, so I thought he was going to get away from. From it. Oh, yeah, yeah, he was a stock broker for. We had this guy that used to help a lot of guys in the team and that guy kind of took him under his wing and so he was in the stock business for a while and then decided I think Mark Crawford was a friend of his from somewhere and took him up to Toronto's farm team up in. Might have been Newfoundland up there, whatever the Rock. So he went up, up there for a few years and then went to Colorado with Crawford, I think, and won a cup there. And that's the rest is history from him.

[Yan Stastny]

Damn.

[Dave Tippett]

He.

[Yan Stastny]

So he got one as an assistant too?

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, yeah, he got three at three as a coach, head coach and one as assistant. Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

Pretty wild here. So like John Anderson ended up being a head coach in the NHL.

[Dave Tippett]

You.

[Yan Stastny]

Dean Evison was on, on one of your teams.

[Ryan Whitney]

Alfie.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah, Alfie. Who did he. I don't know if he was.

[Dave Tippett]

Ended up not a head coach, but still. But Kevin, Kevin Deneen. Kevin.

[Yan Stastny]

Like so many guys.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, there was, there's. There's been a couple people write stories about how many players off those, those mid 80 teams that have all went on to coach.

[Yan Stastny]

And then Ray Ferreira was another guy who, who ended up going into the media world. But was he always a chat chatterbox in the room about it all? Like, did you see that coming?

[Dave Tippett]

Oh, without a doubt. Biz. He. I. Well, I think, you know, normally guys would get initiated once when they get in. I think. I think Ray might have got three that year.

[Yan Stastny]

Just. Just like it came in hot, essentially.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, he. He was a real heralded guy. I think he. The year before he got drafted, he scored 108 goals or something like that in the Western League. And he came in, he. He was, he wanted to score. Like he would do anything to score and, and you know, he, he liked to talk and score and you know, he, he did a lot of Both of it. So good.

[Yan Stastny]

Very successful at both.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

He had finished with 408 NHL goals.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah. He could score 41 whole year at Hartford. Yeah, the thing I, I took about here like he wasn't a very big guy, but he would take punishment to score. You know, not so much punishments to check or back check, but to score. He would take the punishment to score. He loved to score. But Ray's a good guy, really good guy. Yeah, he just talked a lot. So he's in the right, he's in the right profession.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

This picture of Dean Evanson as I'm clicking on his profile, what a mullet he had back. He was on Washington then. Oh my God, this is unbelievable. Some of these guys pictures.

[Dave Tippett]

He was a hard nosed player. Dino, eh, like he, he was rugged. I remember he fought Doug Riseborough three times in a game. Like they went to, they fought, offered face off, got out of the penalty box, fought again. Next face off, fought again. Yeah, he was, he was a rugged little guy. He played hard.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I feel bad not knowing much about Tori Robinson, but. 337 pimps, 358 pimps, 293. Like talk about a fucking animal.

[Dave Tippett]

This guy, you know what, he was a great guy, but he was the only kind of grit or tough guy we had and always had to stick up for everybody. Like we ended up going and getting Dave Simenco at the end of his career. We had Tiger Williams, but Tory took the brunt of it early on. I give him a ton of credit because a lot like you biz, like you weren't the biggest guy but you knew what you had to do all the time. And he like Tori had to fight all the big guys. And then back when you're, well, you know Wetsu, you're playing in those division games like we had Buffalo, Quebec is really top. Boston and Montreal and you know you're dealing with Willie Plett and Nylan and O'Reilly and like you though, those are back in hard, hard days. And Tory was a young guy. He wasn't. He was maybe a six footer but he was, he was game. He was a grappler, you know, but he had to fight all those tough guys. I give him credit. He broke his leg really bad in Montreal. I think that kind of slowed him down a little bit after, but, but good guy.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Do you still watch a ton of hockey? Like I'm wondering what you think of the game now. I mean we talk about the speed and the skill, but watching it's so different from when you played and even started coaching, right?

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, it is. Yeah. So I still. I still do some consulting for Seattle.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Okay.

[Dave Tippett]

So I watch all their games. I talked to Lane Lambert probably a couple times a week. Just give him kind of what's called an unemotional view of what I think happened in the game, you know, and not. Not necessarily tactically, but just, you know, how the flow of the game went and everything. So I still, I do watch a lot of hockey. I. I think the game, the skill and the speed in the game is just. It's incredible. Now, like that, that first period of the Canada U.S. game in the Olympics, I don't know. I don't know if there's ever been a first, like hockey game that fast ever, ever. Those two tournaments within, you know, a year, the Olympics and then the four nations, those. Those two games with the Canada US Are. That's as good a hockey as there ever been played ever. I think it's just the. The talent, the speed, the. And I mean, coaching Connor for three years, it was. It's just out of this world. What he does, even in practice and. And to see. To see players do those things at that speed is. It's a credit to where the league's at. And. But the game, I don't think the game has ever been played better than it's being played right now.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Okay.

[Dave Tippett]

When it, when it. When it's at the highest levels.

[Yan Stastny]

You know, the only other player that would probably compare to him that you played with or coach was you. You played a year in Pittsburgh with Mario Lemieux. I think it was the year after they won their Cup.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

And he had 160 points. I was going to ask you about what it was like just playing with him for a year and experiencing that. And maybe what are the. The differences or similarities between coaching Connor and playing with Mario Lemieux?

[Dave Tippett]

Well, Mario was like that team. You look at the names on that team there, it was Lemieux, Jagger, Talkett, Stevens, Joey Mullen, Larry Murphy, Murphy, Ronnie Francis. I think there's six hall of Famers there. I'll tell. I'll tell you one funny story about that team. So Scotty Bowman was our coach. Right. And so our power play was Mario. And Kevin Stevens was net front, up front, and then there was a right winger, and then Ronnie Francis and Larry Murphy played the points. But there was three players that always. That had to pick for that one winger spot. And Scotty always wanted Jagger to go because he was a young guy and he loved Jagger. And then we had Joey Mullen, who was a phenomenal player, was probably the best fit and scored 40 or 50 goals. And then we had talk who, when he didn't get on it, he'd get madder than shit, right? So I'd be sitting. I was sitting. I was the fourth line penalty killer. I'd be sitting on the bench. I'd be watching Scotty, right? So Scotty would always want Jagger to go. And Jagger would sometimes be pouting and he'd come off and be mad or whatever. And then Joey Mullen would be sitting there with a stick like this, not saying a word. And Taka was going to kill somebody if he didn't go, right. And I remember Jay Caulfield and I, we used to kind of laugh at each other and try to bet which ones get to go, right? Because the other guys are all staying on, they're doing their two minute gig out there. But then the other guy was. We always used to laugh how, how you know, who got to go on the power play that time. But that was a phenomenal team. That was. I jumped over there for one year to try to win a cup and we won the President's trophy that year. And then that was year that Islanders beat us out in game seven of second round. Game seven overtime. Mario was hurt. Like it was. It was kind of a weird series because Mario was. I think he missed a couple games and there was two games a game or two that he took warm up and then didn't play. So it was. It kind of felt weird there a little bit.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

But how about all the names you say? And then like Martin Strocko was 19 years old. He ended up being incredible. But when I was in Pittsburgh, they would say, you know, cause my rookie year, it was all the same training staff still. They'd say that was the best team that they had. They won two in a row and that was actually the best team. And they, you know, that, that upset is, is nuts. That was when Kevin Stevens got hurt too.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah. That was the game. Game seven.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, did he break his leg or.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Face.

[Dave Tippett]

Face.

[Ryan Whitney]

Oh, face.

[Yan Stastny]

Face. Yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Knocked out in midair by Rich Pilon and then landed on his face.

[Dave Tippett]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Just. That was. That's probably as worse injury as I've ever seen. Like just being in that game, it just changed the whole complex of the game. And. Yeah, and already Kevin was a really good guy too. Like a really good guy. It was. That was painful. A lot of those guys that were real close to him on that team for a Long time.

[Ryan Whitney]

The name you mentioned was that Jay Caufield and everybody you talk to in those eras, I don't know much about him, but everyone just raves about him

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

to see him now. He's still shredded.

[Ryan Whitney]

Is he?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah.

[Dave Tippett]

Well, you know, I'll tell you. So I went to school with him. He was at North Dakota as a football player. When I was a hockey player there he was, he was, he was going to be a, a first round draft pick, I think in the NFL. And he hurt his neck so the doctor told him he shouldn't play, shouldn't play football anymore. So we were about halfway through the year and he, he asked the hockey coach, could I come out and practice with you guys? So we had, we had a really good team. That's the year we won. Well, we lost a game and the coach was mad at us. So he shows up on a day that we're getting bagged on a Monday, right. And, and I remember bending over in the corner, I just said, big man, you picked the wrong day to start. But he's. Have you ever heard his story? It's an amazing story.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I didn't even know that.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah. So he was in North Dakota and he played a little bit of high school hockey in that when he was a kid, so he loved hockey. And all of. There was a bunch of NHL guys that would skate at North Dakota in the summertime and teach hockey school and he used to come back there and teach hockey school. And James Patrick was picked ninth overall from the Rangers. One night during that summer, one of the Ranger scouts came to see James and we used to play, you know, like a summer hockey there. So they saw Jay playing, so he asked, who's this guy? And the Rangers, I think the Rangers signed them right out of watching them play there. Like he's 64 and he's a monster, like, just unbelievable. But they signed him out of there and he ended up playing in New Haven. That's how his hockey career started. Never, never played junior or anything. I don't think he played a college game. Maybe one game after I was gone, but. But one of the nicest people ever. In fact, my wife introduced him to his wife, Alicia. My wife and his wife were, were roommates at college. And, and they're, they've got a bunch of kids now and they're, they're. He's still doing the same thing in Pittsburgh. Just one of the nicest people you're ever going to meet. And yet he was, he was a tough guy. He, he would, he had to fight all the big boys.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah. One game at North Dakota. That's crazy.

[Yan Stastny]

The one guy I was going to ask you about to finish off Pittsburgh was Tom Barrasso. I've heard some interesting stories about him. Just like, very confident guy.

[Dave Tippett]

Just very confident. And you know what? He was a good player when he, when he. It's like all goalies, right? They do whatever you want. Just play good.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Dave Tippett]

You know the one thing I remember, Charlie, he always hated people that wore jeans. He was, he. He always wore khakis. He'd walk in. He was well dressed guy and always wore a khaki.

[Yan Stastny]

Kind of like Lundquist.

[Dave Tippett]

Before Lundquist, I was a Western Canadian. You know, Wranglers.

[Ryan Whitney]

Wow.

[Dave Tippett]

Well, I mean that, like the, the tuxedo, jean jacket, everything. So he looked at me like, I was like, who are you? But I like, I like trucks and motorcycles and we were just from different worlds, you know, so, so. But I, I like Tommy a lot. I got along fine with him when, when he stopped the puck, I was all on his side biz.

[Ryan Whitney]

He played public high school wit, right? Didn't he play public high school at like acting in Boxborough and then in the NHL?

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

5th overall directly into the NHL.

[Ryan Whitney]

Like public high school. Like not even like that.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

But then it was, it wasn't then, then it was like legit back then. Not like, not fifth overall into the NHL.

[Yan Stastny]

Do you still ride your motorcycle? I remember you had like a custom Dallas Stars one. Didn't. Didn't the famous motorcycle guy build it for you?

[Dave Tippett]

No, no, I build my own. He built one for Medano. But I've got, I've got two of them that I built myself. Actually, I built one in Dallas when there was a lockout year. I was looking for something to do, so I decided to build one. I've still got both of them, but I got a new hip about a year ago and I've got one hand that doesn't work very good, so I don't ride them much. I like to play around and fix them and shine them up, but they're more art pieces than they are rideable. But I'll take them for a blast now and then.

[Yan Stastny]

Where did you learn to build motorcycles?

[Dave Tippett]

You know what I had? One of my grandfathers was a mechanic and the other one was a carpenter, so I built cars. And I still have in my garage and Flagstaff, I have a 67 Mustang that I bought over 50 years ago for $300. All done up sitting there. Yeah, yeah, it's.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

It's like, would you sell that someday or. No?

[Dave Tippett]

No. I got four grandkids and they've all claimed it already and, and, but my daughter, my youngest daughter has claimed it before them. So I, somebody's going to get it. But, but no, it's a, it's a keeper that one. I bought it for $300 and I was 15 years old. And then three days after I got my license, I totaled it off. Got hit in an intersection with it and I bought it back from the insurance company and I built it again. And then it sat in a barn in Canada for 25 years.

[Ryan Whitney]

Wow.

[Dave Tippett]

Just sat there. And then my dad took it out of the barn, did a little work on it before he passed away. And then I've had it down in the states here maybe 10 years now. But you saw my motorcycles the best, didn't you?

[Yan Stastny]

I remember you showed me. Yeah, it's, it was funny because you know, Don Maloney was, was driving his motorcycle too. He would go, no helmet on the highway down.

[Ryan Whitney]

Remember he got a big cut and his, and his, he came, we, we all had Vespers. We'd come to the rink on Vespers and Donnie would come on his big Harley and one day he showed up, he had a huge gash in his head and still no helmet. No, he hit the brakes but he had like the big windshield. But his head hit the windshield and he had a huge gash in his face.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, I don't, I, I haven't, I don't wear a helmet either. But my, my riding days I think are over now.

[Yan Stastny]

We got to talk about Connor and coaching him a little bit. But before we get to him, we got, we got to talk a little bit more about Shane Doane. Was, was he the most level headed captain you ever had?

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, he was, he was by far the best leader that I've ever seen. Like that, that was one of the things we talked about, you know, what happened when I got there and how if, if he's not there to kind of control that dressing room. It's a whole different situation, you know, and he was, he was like, he was like a partner with me, you know, like he, he, we were on the same page on everything we were doing and, and he just, he just a good player, a really good player. A great person, a great captain, a great friend. I mean it's, it's, you don't see too many people that have all that in one, one body. And, and the other thing, I, I, he was a meanie too.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

He would Snap.

[Ryan Whitney]

Snap.

[Yan Stastny]

So with Tip had this like. What was it called? The ten point game.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah, it was, it was an efficiency number or something. I have to get some crazy stat that I. They used to give guys like him to get. To get engaged in the game. And it was, it was 10 points, I think it was for. You got one point for a shot on goal, one for a hit, one point for point. And there was block shots and he had to try to get to 10 every game, right? Well, the one, the one, you know, he would try to get. I think he got to 24. One game or something.

[Yan Stastny]

It was in LA. And I think, I think you might remember this biz. Oh yeah, I remember I was watching with Petey.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yours was a two point game.

[Ryan Whitney]

Popcorn and a hot dog.

[Dave Tippett]

You know what I. For biz. You know what I did? I actually tried to make Biz feel better. So then I had the efficiency and I had the. Had the video guy do it. So he. You had an efficiency number for how many minutes you played, so it made okay. Like even if Biz played five or seven minutes, he still had to get a hit or a shot on goal. Donor just would play 25 minutes so he'd get more chance.

[Yan Stastny]

I think you called Donor out or said something. And then we went into LA and. And he must have had 12 hits. Yeah, eight shots on net. I think he had three, four points that night. And the efficiency number was like you said, like mid-20s, maybe closer to 30.

[Ryan Whitney]

And chased Brian Boyle down the hallway. Remember how the LA LA connected? He chased him down the hallway wanting to kill him. Then he was mad at me because I knew Brian Boyle.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Oh, so he was.

[Ryan Whitney]

Why?

[Yan Stastny]

No, he made him delete his number out of his phone after the game.

[Dave Tippett]

You know what though? What? Who's the guy from Waterboy? Bobby Boucher. That's what I remember. I coming in there, I. I called Donor Bobby Boucher. I don't know if he liked that or not, but I called him Bobby Boucher. It was, it was, it was funny.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, the other, the other thing too was Donor, I think had had the NHL record for most two goal games and never had never gotten a hat trick. And then you put him out there with Ray Whitney Yan's. You were on the ice too, right?

[Ryan Whitney]

Yep.

[Yan Stastny]

And he ended up scoring a hat trick with like under a. Under a second against the Islanders. Slap shot over the blue line.

[Dave Tippett]

You know what? If it was any other team, they would have been mad, I think, but I think we were up by two goals or Something. And I left them out there for a long time. Right. And everybody. Everybody in the STM knew what he was going for. I kind of felt bad because you're. You're. He's not mocking the other team, but it was just. Everybody was so. Wanted Donor to do it so bad. And then when that goal. Remember. Yes. It was down in our end with like five seconds to go, and everybody was kind of, oh, it's not going to happen. And somehow Donor gets the puck up there and he shoots it maybe a half a second left to go in the game.

[Ryan Whitney]

He was so tired, he was trying to come off the ice. And you were like, no, no, no, you're staying. When he was celebrating, you could just see how tired he was.

[Yan Stastny]

Gassed.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

I think that was the Coyotes winning a Stanley Cup.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah, that.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Oh, my God.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

It's on YouTube. And he. He's skating over the. He's literally skating like this before he get to the puck. Yeah, that is hilarious.

[Dave Tippett]

But he stayed on the ice. He must have been on there 15 minutes after the game.

[Ryan Whitney]

Yeah.

[Dave Tippett]

With a hat on. He had a cowboy hat on. Collecting all the hats. And he had bag. They brought all the bags of hats and put him in his locker after. Yeah, that was. It was huge. Huge thing for him.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

It was literally at the buzzer. You weren't getting this.

[Yan Stastny]

Oh, yeah, that. That moment. And then closing out Nashville in five games at home. That was the whole. Was it Radulov and then the twins.

[Ryan Whitney]

The two twins.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah, yeah. They were out. Right. The night before.

[Ryan Whitney]

Set them up.

[Yan Stastny]

Yeah.

[Dave Tippett]

Hey, yeah, tell the truth, biz buddy.

[Yan Stastny]

I knew all the bottle service girls at the W, obviously, and they were saying that they were there drinking and they didn't like their. Their drinks with ice. And the waitress must have. They must have got like a new one because the other one was busy. And they put ice in their drink again, and they. They would scoop it out and they would throw it on the ground. Say, no ice. No, I see my.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Yeah, you're not getting any ice tomorrow in the game either. No.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah.

[Yan Stastny]

No more ice the rest of the series. Yeah.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah. I forget who the. Who's the little announcer there? Works for espn. Panger. I think he. He somehow he had heard that and all this stuff was going down. Somebody called me in the afternoon and I said. They said, nashville's got an issue, and Radalov and. And so I was. We were waiting to see if he's going to play, and then. And then they played them Radov played that game, but he was a dog. And, and that's. We ended up. I think that's. That wasn't the deciding game, I don't think was it. But it gave us the leg up in the series we needed.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I think Biz mentioned this, but I gotta mention Roback first. Last question here by roback. Go to roback.com for 20% off your first purchase to the end of the week. That's R H O-B-A C-K.com and use code C-I C L E T S 20 off. Polos, hoodies, joggers. More tip biz brought up McDavid and Coach in Edmonton. And I'm. They, these guys give me shit. I'm the Oilers guy on the podcast. But oftentimes I'll hear, oh, they. He can't win. He can't win the big one. It's like, I don't know, the guy's getting 40 points in the playoffs. It's kind of hard to put it on him. But coaching him, was he just because we have brought up. He's very serious, he's very driven and I don't know. As a coach, did you ever see that? Almost wish at times he could loosen up a little or is it just not in his DNA really?

[Dave Tippett]

I think he loosens up all the time with his teammates behind the scenes.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

But that's good to hear.

[Dave Tippett]

Remember how Mario was. Mario was very, it's like stoic. Very stoic. Low profile. Never liked the media much. Like just very, you know, very cognizant of everything that's going around him and don't want to, don't want to bring attention to himself. That's how he is. And you know, his play is like, it's crazy. He could play on a winning team anywhere, you know. Yeah. And you know, he just, he needs to, he needs to keep at it. He's gonna, he's gonna find his day again. It's, it's incredible the things he does, you know, and, and at a speed he does, you know, just the way he takes care of himself just I, I, I, I can't say enough good things about him. Like he's and knowledgeable about the game, understands what's going on. I, the, the one knock I could say about him. There's times when he would have an unbelievable game, like five points or whatever, and he was, he was almost embarrassed by his success. Like he wanted to shy away from it. And I always wondered the next game if he's going to just Kind of downplay it and, and not have a good game, you know, and that's during the regular season, during playoffs. He always wanted to play top notch, but. But he's just, he's. He just, He's a good person. He's an unbelievable player, but he's got to be. He's got to watch everything he does because he's in a fishbowl so much. You ask any of the players there, he's a great teammate, really good teammate, and, but just, just has to be very, very cognizant of what's going on around him. Well, he'll win. He'll win.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

I like it. That's what I've, I just, I just can't keep saying, like, there's no way you won't. I, you know, you've never not going

[Ryan Whitney]

to be in Edmonton.

[Dave Tippett]

Well, that, that could be a point, Yance, but we'll see how that goes. I think we're going to see how that goes the next year or two.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Exactly. Yeah, we are. Oh, yeah, we are. But this has been great. Appreciate it. Man, these guys speak so highly of you. I know we've never met, but it's

[Yan Stastny]

kind of like you. Like, I was blessed with so many amazing coaches and you were so detailed and, and just all the little nuances of the game that I was able to learn while I was sitting there and riding. Riding shotgun with you, me, you and Johnny Anderson.

[Dave Tippett]

Yeah. Well, I appreciate it, guys. You're two of my favorite, for sure. It's just I've been really blessed, you know, and I like having teams where you got characters on them and you got different characters and you got to have fun in the game. Like, I was always, you know, there's a time to really be serious and time to. To, you know, dig in, but you gotta have fun in this game. And guys like you always kept it fun. And I think that was one of the reasons we, we had the success we did. And you know, Phoenix's fun was. It was a part of our agenda and we had fun on the ice and that's. That turned into wins for us. So I appreciate it, guys. Oh, you're the best. We'll keep in touch, guys.

[Ryan Whitney]

Hello.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

If anyone likes coffee out there, you need to know about Stella Blue. Stella Blue coffee. Ready to drink canned lattes. You can taste the difference and make a difference. Stella Blue cans are made with 100% Colombian coffee and packed with 190 milligrams of caffeine to fuel your day, whether you're heading to work the gym, a road trip, or just need a little pick me up in the afternoon. Stella Blue delivers smooth taste wherever you are. And now it's a easier than ever to keep your fridge stocked because Stella Blue canned lattes are available in convenient four packs. Here's the best part. 100% of the proceeds will go toward our We Brew to rescue mission in which we're funding the adoption of 1,000 pets across the country. Grab a four pack of espresso sweet cream or espresso cafe Mocha today on Stella Blue coffee dot com. And once you try them, you'll understand why they're the best canned lattes out there. You can also find Stella Blue in select circle K and seven 11s around the country. Go to the store locator on stellabluecoffee.com to find a store near you. Thank you so much to tip. What a guy. What a show. Lot of golf talk, but it is love Allen Cup. So shout out everyone for listening to me rant and rave. Shout out to you too for being such good friends. Keith, I do think it's very funny. We had your stuff. Surprise birthday party. Your birthday's in a month.

[Yan Stastny]

A month? Yeah, I was going to say it's not till September.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

What a party.

[Ryan Whitney]

But it was the only time I'm going to be home in Boston to be able to have all you guys there. Yeah, yeah.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Very true, Very true. And we had a great time. And biz. Keep it sweaty, keep it sweaty. Okay, buddy, you keep.

[Yan Stastny]

I got my electrolytes.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

Got to be dancing. Got to be smiling. All right, electrolytes.

[Yan Stastny]

Liquid Gaston.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

All right, everyone. And listen, guys, hockey fans. We are the ultimate hockey fans. And I get very excited. September 1st until September 1st, it's just not hockey. Hockey is a grind of a season. Don't you guys worry. There won't be golf talk. There won't be sweaty gas stone talk. There will be hockey talk. And it's coming and it's just give us a couple more weeks of shooting the. We still have more interviews. We have one episode where we did question and answers, which is actually pretty funny. I don't know if we're still dropping that, but we will be back with the hockey action coming at you every week, spitting Chiclets twice a week. This is what we do and we win member guest terms. So I love you all.

[Dave Tippett]

Have a great week. Bye. Bye. Won't happen, won't happen again Won't happen, won't happen, won't ever again

[Ryan Whitney]

A bad

[Dave Tippett]

habit worth breaking but it's taking time. I don't know. Don't let it. It's going to happen. It's going to happen again. Wanna.

[Yan Stastny]

What if your drive was fueled with

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

more like more protection for more time on the road? Shelby Power Nitro plus provides more protection for longer lasting engines, so it helps you keep your engine running like new for whatever drive is ahead. Shelby Power Nitro plus engine performance that lasts compared to minimum detergent gasoline with continuous use of Shelby Power Nitro plus and gasoline direct injection engines, actual effects

[Yan Stastny]

and benefits may vary.

[Brian 'Biz' Wit]

See Shell Us More Protection for more information.