Kim Kardashian’s Bizarre Fashion Mask, DeNiro’s Meltdown, and Meghan Markle’s Title Stripped Next?

Summary

Spot On with Link Lauren

Host: Link Lauren | Guest: Batya Unger Sargon
Episode Title: Kim Kardashian’s Bizarre Fashion Mask, DeNiro’s Meltdown, and Meghan Markle’s Title Stripped Next?
Date: October 20, 2025

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Episode Overview

Link Lauren delivers sharp, unfiltered takes on the latest from celebrity culture and politics, blending humor and keen commentary. In this episode, he covers Kim Kardashian’s viral face-mask outfit, celebrity and political meltdowns (including Robert De Niro and Jennifer Welch), a look at Meghan Markle’s title drama, and a lively discussion on left-wing protest culture with guest Batya Unger Sargon.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Kim Kardashian’s Viral Face-Covering Gala Look

[01:14 – 06:15]

• Link opens with a comedic review: after trying to wear a face-covering similar to Kardashian’s, he jokes about its impracticality and absurdity for daily life, only useful if you’ve had “bad Botox” or are stalking an ex.
  • “I give this look a 2 out of 10. I’m going to go take it off like the villain in Scooby-Doo.” (01:57)
• Details of Kardashian’s Academy Museum Gala outfit: nude mask, matching corseted gown (Maison Margiela Fall 2025 Couture), long nails.
  • “I think I just got gayer reading that sentence.” (02:23)
• Link critiques Kardashian’s apparent desperation for attention, referencing her history of provocative fashion and public stunts.
  • “Instead of just aging gracefully, Kim Kardashian is still pulling all of these stunts for attention, like showing up with a pillow over her face.” (03:18)
• Discussion of the surround-yourself-with-yes-people culture—the idea that Kardashian has too many enablers and no real friends to check her.
  • “She needs to have some friends who aren’t on her payroll.” (04:32)
• Extends critique to Kardashian’s parenting and perceived influence on her children.

2. Jennifer Welch: Outrage, Hypocrisy & Media Divisiveness

[06:16 – 12:55]

• Link rails against liberal podcast host Jennifer Welch’s divisive style and pointed attacks on JD Vance and his family.
  • “If we did that to the other side, oh, all hell would break loose.” (07:54)
• Welch’s comments on white people and racism in red states are called out for hypocrisy and overgeneralization, with Link emphasizing that bigotry is not limited by geography or political persuasion.
  • “Everybody’s a little bit racist, okay? Let’s stop beating around the bush.” (09:14)
• Narratives of virtue signaling—Welch’s portrayal of diverse neighborhoods, then her anger when a conservative black family moves in.
  • “Jennifer Welch, you have some egg on your face.” (10:05)
• Link speculates Welch’s media anger and cosmetic procedures are symptoms of deeper personal issues.
  • “Anytime a woman is that angry and lashing out and attacking groups of people, she’s hurting.” (11:45)

3. Jennifer Lopez: Relationships, Victimhood, and Celebrity Self-Awareness

[12:57 – 17:09]

• Clip of J.Lo on Howard Stern: claims men aren’t capable of loving her.
  • “It’s not that I’m not lovable, it’s that they’re not capable.” (13:03) – Jennifer Lopez
• Link’s take: J.Lo blames others for failed relationships but “maybe you’re the problem.”
  • “Jennifer Lopez, she’s the type of person who can find the thorn in everybody else, but can’t see the log in her own heart.” (13:15)
• Reads an Instagram confrontation from ex-husband Ojani Noa, accusing her of cheating and placing fame above love.
  • “Stop putting me down with your victim card. The problem is not us, not me. The problem is you.” (15:00) – Ojani Noa
• Link speculates on Lopez’s need for public attention and emotional wounds.

4. Robert De Niro’s “Meltdown” & Political Rhetoric

[17:10 – 19:41]

• DeNiro’s MSNBC comments: claims rural Americans can’t get the truth because of limited access to news.
  • “Somewhere way out in the Midwest...the rural places, that’s the truth, because [Trump] gets the airtime.” (17:21) – Robert De Niro
• Link argues this is out-of-touch elitism, reminiscent of Hillary Clinton’s “basket of deplorables.”
  • “Most of the country is rural. They're actually getting the truth.” (17:51)
• De Niro further compares Trump aide Stephen Miller to a Nazi, using incendiary language.
  • “He’s the Goebbels of the... Cabinet, Stephen Miller. He’s a Nazi. Yes, he is. And he’s Jewish, and he should be ashamed of himself.” (19:28) – Robert De Niro
• Link decries the normalization of such labels in media and connects them to increased political violence.

5. Prince Andrew Steps Back: Should Meghan Markle and Harry Lose Titles Too?

[20:20 – 28:09]

• News: Prince Andrew will stop using the “Duke of York” title.
• Link argues that if Andrew is stripped of royal privileges for scandal, Harry and Meghan should also lose their titles for “dining out” on their status while living in California.
  • “You should not be allowed...to use your Duchess of Sussex title...to sell jams, jellies, and dog biscuits.” (22:28)
• Blasts Markle’s continued use of titles long after stepping back from royal duties.
  • “She has only spent about five hours in Sussex, according to our research. I spent more time there as a tourist.” (22:20)
• Belief that William will eventually shrink the monarchy and enforce rules about non-working royals.

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Interview: Batya Unger Sargon on Protest Culture, Political Realignment & The Future

[28:42 – 50:43]

The "No Kings" Protests

[29:09 – 34:36]

• Link and Batya discuss the lack of clear purpose or accomplishment in anti-Trump “No Kings” protests, likening them to performance art.
  • “It felt like an early Halloween...they’re out there in like, furry costumes...doing, you know, organized choreography...This looks very, very unserious.” (31:27) – Link Lauren
  • “It really seemed to be white boomers...What it is representative of is that sort of far-left fringe...so used to having power, both cultural and political, and they've lost both.” (29:50) – Batya Unger Sargon
• Batya notes the energy comes from anger at fellow Americans more than Trump himself, as the right’s grassroots populism upends old power structures.

The Democratic Elites & Loss of the Working Class

[34:36 – 36:39]

• Observation that the Democratic Party has become the party of wealthy elites:
  • “Nine of the 10 richest counties in America now represented by Democrats; vast majority of Americans making over $500,000 a year now are Democrats.” (35:12) – Batya
• Trump’s success as a populist who actually delivers on promises for his base is contrasted with Democratic reliance on big donors and celebrity culture.

Zoran Mamdani: Symbolism or Substance?

[36:39 – 42:40]

• Link asks why national media obsesses over NY’s Zoran Mamdani.
  • “98% of the country, we don’t live in New York City. He will not affect us.” (37:00)
• Batya: Media focus overblown due to geographical clustering of journalists; Mamdani seen more as a “millennial adult daycare counselor” for “permanently infantilized millennials.”
  • “He’s an avatar for a state of mind...he does activities for them...He is their hero.” (40:00) – Batya

Young People, Entitlement, and the Housing Crisis

[41:03 – 42:40]

• Link critiques young New Yorkers’ expectation to live in an expensive city affordably.
  • “You’re not entitled to live in the most expensive fancy city on planet earth for cheap...Who told you that?” (41:03)
• Batya echoes: previous generations’ “hub for artists” meant living in poor, dangerous conditions, not upper-class comfort.

College for Young Men: Asset or Liability?

[42:40 – 45:42]

• Link and Batya weigh whether young men today should pursue four-year degrees, considering ideological indoctrination versus the opportunity in skilled trades.
  • “It’s such a hard thing to tell somebody...because we all want the same thing for our kids. American dream, right?” (43:41) – Batya
• Contrast between the parties: Republicans now more focused on making the American dream accessible to tradesmen and workers.

LGBTQ, Trans Agenda, and Cultural Shifts

[45:42 – 49:32]

• Link and Batya discuss fragmentation of the LGBTQ community:
  • “There is no LGBTQ community anymore. We’re 10 years post-Obergefell...I don’t know why...we’re all part of one umbrella.” (48:19) – Link Lauren
• Both express that mainstream America is far more accepting of gay people now, with left-wing elites more obsessed with trans issues and right-wing elites lagging in gay acceptance.
• Batya: “There’s very pro-gay Christians and conservatives and Republicans who sound indistinguishable from Democrats...And then, even the Democrats I interviewed who were working class were really worried about the trans agenda in schools, in bathrooms, in sports.” (46:51)
• Merit vs. diversity: praise for Trump administration appointments made on talent, not sexuality.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I look like I went on a first date with Chris Brown under here. I’m fighting for my life.” Link Lauren, on Kim Kardashian’s mask (01:44)
• “She needs to have some friends who aren’t just totally yes people.” Link Lauren (04:33)
• “Everybody’s a little bit racist, okay?...But if you have a frontal lobe and a filter, you’re not saying it.” Link Lauren (09:14)
• “The problem is not us, not me. The problem is you.” Ojani Noa, J.Lo’s ex (15:00)
• “If you make your hatred for President Trump your entire personality, I think you’re sick and you’re unwell and you need help.” Link Lauren (19:41)
• “You should not be allowed…to use your Duchess of Sussex title…to sell jams, jellies, and dog biscuits.” Link Lauren (22:28)
• “He’s sort of an avatar for a state of mind…an adult daycare counselor for millennials.” Batya Unger Sargon (40:00)
• “There is no LGBTQ in the working class. There’s...very, very pro-gay Christians...and the Democrats [were] worried about the trans agenda in schools.” Batya Unger Sargon (46:51)

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Timestamps for Significant Segments

• Kim Kardashian’s mask & fashion stunt: [01:14 – 06:15]
• Jennifer Welch outrage & hypocrisy: [06:16 – 12:55]
• Jennifer Lopez relationship analysis: [12:57 – 17:09]
• Robert De Niro’s “meltdown“ & Nazi analogy: [17:10 – 19:41]
• Prince Andrew & Meghan Markle royal title debate: [20:20 – 28:09]
• Batya Unger Sargon interview (“No Kings” protests, privilege, and political realignment): [28:42 – 50:43]
  • No Kings protests outcomes: [29:09 – 34:36]
  • Democrats as party of wealth: [34:36 – 36:39]
  • Zoran Mamdani & NYC liberalism: [36:39 – 42:40]
  • Housing/entitlement debate: [41:03 – 42:40]
  • Value of college for young men: [42:40 – 45:42]
  • LGBTQ fragmentation: [45:42 – 49:32]
• End of episode appreciation: [52:49 – end]

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Episode Tone & Style

• Link Lauren’s style: Sarcastic, unapologetic, blending pop culture dissection with cultural critique; heavy use of humor—sometimes biting, sometimes self-deprecating.
• Batya Unger Sargon: Analytical, thoughtful; provides data-backed insights and relatable analogies.

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Recap: Why This Episode Stands Out

Link Lauren turns up the heat on celebrity culture’s attention economy, left-leaning media hypocrisy, and the disarray of protest movements. The lively, informed discussion with Batya Unger Sargon elevates big-picture questions about class realignment, the purpose (or lack thereof) of protest, and the future of youth in a polarized America.
If you’re looking for an irreverent but insightful debriefing on the cultural and political news cycle, this episode is “spot on.”

Transcript

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Well, my friends, welcome back to Spot on with Link. Lauren. Happy Monday. I hope you're doing great. I don't really care what day you're listening to this as long as you're tuning in and listening. And if this is your first time, if this is your first time coming across our show, Spot On.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

Welcome.

[Host (Link Lore)]

We welcome everyone from the left, the right, the middle, all across the political spectrum. As long as you have a sense of humor, we will be here breaking down the calamities of Hollywood, the circus of Washington, D.C. and everything in between. We have a guest coming up later on in the show, Bhatia Unger Sargon. We're going to be discussing Zoran Mamdani in New York City. We're going to break down Kim Kardashian's ridiculous face covered outfit. We're going to be breaking down no kings and so much more. So stay tuned. So before we jump into some hard news, Kim Kardashian went viral over the weekend for this ridiculous face covering look. I thought I would try it and do a review. I've been in here for about 10 minutes. It's hot, it's sweaty, I can't breathe. I bumped my head a few times. I look like I went on a first date with Chris Brown under here. I'm fighting for my life. I will say the only thing this look is good for, the only reason this look is practical whatsoever is if you've had some plastic surgery. If you've had a bad reaction to Botox, you can wear this look. You can cover, you can Hide yourself. I also have to say, if you're going to go and stock an ex, this look could be good. But they might wonder why someone is following them around rite aid at 10pm with a sheet over their head. So I give this look a 2 out of 10. I'm going to go take it off like the villain and Scooby Doo, and then I'll break down everything else that you guys need to know. So now that I've decompressed, I've had some oxygen, some water, let me break down everything you need to know about Kim Kardashian's ridiculous outfit. So Kim arrived to the fifth annual Academy Museum gala on Saturday wearing a nude colored mask that covered her entire face, as we just saw. So she modeled the mask with a matching strapless corseted gown with draped sleeves from the maison Margiela Fall 2025 Couture Collection, paired with coordinating long nude nails. Let me just say, okay, number one, I think I just got gayer reading that sentence. Number two, when you're inside the sheet, when you have that pillowcase over your head, you realize how ridiculous the Kardashians are. You realize how desperate they are for attention. Like, these are the links Kim Kardashian is going to for attention at this point. She's shown her entire body, every nook and cranny of her entire nether regions, her breast, everything. Everything has been seen. We discovered Kim Kardashian on her back.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

Okay?

[Host (Link Lore)]

We discovered her on her back. We've seen it all. We've seen it all. Nuts and bolts, okay? We've seen her through different transformations. So what is Kim Kardashian doing 20 years into her career? Instead of just aging gracefully, Kim Kardashian is still pulling all of these stunts for attention, like showing up with a pillow over her face. When I first saw this, I was like, is this what Kim Kardashian would wear in Gaza? This is what Kim Kardashian has done before. Okay, we'll put it up on the screen. Kim Kardashian showed up to the Met gala years ago in some Balenciaga outfit. It was like a black sheet. I'm here to tell you, okay, not practical for driving. Not practical for any situation whatsoever. So Kim Kardashian, to me, she looks like a clown. She looks absolutely ridiculous. One day she's selling merkins in these faux panties, which we'll show you in a second. The next day, she's showing up with a sheet over her head. Why doesn't she go and enjoy the billions of dollars she made and just raise her children. Go enjoy your billions and age gracefully in Hollywood. Why do you have to continue pulling stunts time and time again? But we actually have a clip of her doing an interview in the covered face mask. Let's talk about the new. What is it? The underwear line. Like the merkins.

[Interview Clip Speakers (Various)]

Where did that come from?

[Host (Link Lore)]

The merkins? That was just a fun idea that I had. There was a shoot and someone wanted to like have hair down there once and I was like, couldn't this just be easy and have it on a thong? And so we made that happen. I had no idea that it would be. That it sold out a reaction and would sell out in a few minutes. You can actually tell in the video that Kim Kardashian is uncomfortable as she should be uncomfortable. You are at a public event in Hollywood with a sheet over your head. You know what the problem is? Kim Kardashian is so used to having these yes People around her. She has all of these yes people gassing her up, constantly saying, yes, you look amazing. You're wonderful. She needs to have some friends who aren't on her payroll. She needs to have some friends who aren't also employees because they will tell her, kim, honey, sweetheart, why are you going out of the house with a pillowcase over your head? Okay. Why are you going out with a pillowcase over at. I still think maybe she got some work done. Maybe she got some plastic surgery that's settling. But Kim Kardashian, she needs some friends who aren't just totally yes people. But we'll be monitoring the situation. I want to play you one last clip where Kim Kardashian is really struggling to walk, but she can't see anything. Let's roll that.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

I can't see anything.

[Host (Link Lore)]

Now, I think we've covered the story enough, but I will tell you guys, this is cultural and it's political, right? Kim Kardashian, she is someone who has made a living giving women body dysmorphia, telling them that they need to feel bad about themselves. You know, one day they think they need big asses. Then everybody in Hollywood goes on ozempic. The girls out here are getting big blown up lips and then they decide they want to do au natural. Okay? So Kim Kardashian, I don't have a lot of respect for her and I would respect her more if she went home. She raised her kids. She didn't have them surrounded by nannies. And if she didn't dress her 12 year old daughter like A prostitute as well, wearing a corset, push up bra, big heels and long nails. These kids are growing up way too fast in Hollywood. And I fear for the Kardashian kids. They have no good examples. What good examples do they have? Kim Kardashian's kids probably think it's normal now to walk around with a sheet over your head and sell merkins, but nonetheless, maybe that's their version of normal on the compound in Calabasas. Now, this next person I want to discuss is also an insufferable woman. We have to talk about liberal activist, podcast influencer Jennifer Welch. We'll put her up on the screen. If you don't know who Jennifer Welch is, she's the host of the I've had it podcast. But she's basically become a shill for the dnc. She basically goes out there and spews all of these DNC talking points. This liberal brain rot. She doesn't seem like someone who's really thinking for herself. Right. She wants to cozy up to Barack Obama, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, all of these people. If you're a liberal elite, she is cozying up to you. But she becomes more ridiculous every single day. So Jennifer Welch, she was on MSNBC a couple of days ago because she couldn't get booked on the show botched. So if you can't get booked on botched, you're going to go on msnbc. So Jennifer, well, she went on MSNBC and she made these ridiculous statements about JD Vance and his family.

[Jennifer Welch]

He is married to a woman of Indian descent.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

Yes.

[Jennifer Welch]

He has mixed race children. So to all of the MAGA voters out there, if this man will not defend his wife and will not defend his kids, do you think he gives a crap about you or anything to do with you?

[Host (Link Lore)]

Listen very closely. Jennifer Welch, who also resembles the Wayans brothers from the White Chicks movie. She looks like she's been in the White Chicks movies. And for everybody saying, you know, don't make fun of the way she looks, that is what she does. If you listen to her podcast, all she does is denigrate conservatives, independents, anybody who doesn't go along with her pre prescribed liberal doctrine. So Jennifer Welch, okay, number one, I thought kids were off limits. I guess we're bringing kids and family into it. If we did that to the other side, oh, all hell would break loose. But J.D. vance, apparently his kids aren't off limits. She references Usha Vance. Usha Vance is an American citizen from San Diego. She's from the San Diego Area in California. Okay? This narrative of he won't protect Usha Vance and his kids, they're American citizens. What does that have to do with illegal migrants being deported? Which is what people voted for you bird brain. You know, every time you go under the knife, and I feel this with the Kardashians. Every time you go under the knife and you have plastic surgery, you allegedly, according to some studies, lose some brain cells. Okay? So maybe that's what's going on with Jennifer Welch, but Jennifer Welch has really turned into one of the most disgusting, divisive people on the Internet. We have another clip. We have another clip of Jennifer Welch talking about white people. She basically generalizes and says all white people are racist.

[Jennifer Welch]

I'm a white woman that has lived in a red state my entire life. And I can tell you when I'm around white people, they test the racist water. They test it on people like you all, all the time. And they'll try to say off color things. I put my hand up. It absolutely happens. And you're fortunate that maybe you have.

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[Host (Link Lore)]

This is why I'm telling you. Jennifer Welch is one of the most divisive figures. She's also just not that intelligent, okay? If you're going to make some massive, massive generalization about every white person who lives in a red state, that's pretty low. That's pretty disgusting kind of journalism out there. Because I'm here to tell you, as someone from a red state who spends a lot of time in red states, I don't see all that much racism. Everybody's a little bit racist, okay? Let's stop beating around the bush. Everybody can be a little bit racist, whether. Whether you're black, white, Asian, Hispanic. We all have it in us, okay? We're all judging each other all day long, okay? But if you have a frontal lobe and a fil. You're not saying it. I don't think it's fair to say that everybody in a red state is racist. It's that sort of like Hillary Clinton, basket of deplorables generalization, right? If you're not with us, you're deplorable. You're racist, you're disgusting. I would wager and bet when Jennifer Welch goes home at night, she's probably dropping the N word, okay? Jennifer Welch is protesting way too much. If we drop in on her house, okay? If the NSA drops in on Jennifer Welch's house tonight, I bet you she's dropping the N word. She's probably one of the most Racist people. When those cameras are off. Because she's going out there, you guys. You people. They test the waters all the time. Jennifer Welch. Please, sweetheart, come back to earth. Another thing I want to point out about Jennifer Welch, she on her podcast, I saw a clip. She said that she lives in a totally white neighborhood and she wanted some black people to move into the neighborhood. She wanted some diversity. Okay, that's fine. She's virtue signaling. I don't believe her. I don't believe she actually cares that much. But she says she wants some black people to move into her neighborhood. So she says that her husband called her and said, sweetheart, a black family moved into the neighborhood, which to me is kind of racist in and of itself. Like, why are you so focused on skin color and gender and identity politics? But a black family moved into Jennifer Welch's neighborhood. She goes apeshit. Okay? Excuse my French. If my mom's Bible study is watching, I'm sorry for the profanity. She goes ape shit, okay? Because the black family puts up a Trump sign in the yard. The black family puts up a MAGA sign in the yard. So that goes to show you, Jennifer Welch, you have some egg on your face. You try to generalize and say every black person has to vote Democrat. And if you don't, you're not in your best interest. Every white person, you're racist and you're divisive. And you're this and one more divisive than you. Jennifer Welch, you went viral in August. We talked about it here on the show. You went viral in August for saying if people voted for Trump, they're not allowed to eat at Mexican restaurants anymore or Asian restaurants. You sound like an idiot, okay? You sound like a buffoon and an idiot. But we'll be tracking. We'll be tracking some more of your insane statements. I really, really, really do think that maybe there's some cognitive issue here. I also think with Jennifer Welch, and I don't say this lightly, anytime a woman is that angry and lashing out and attacking groups of people, she's hurting. I really think Jennifer Welch is hurting at home. There's something broken inside of her. Maybe in her household, things aren't hunky dory, I don't know. But in my opinion, something is really hurting inside of Jennifer Welch. I think to go under the knife that many times, allegedly, to try and change the way you look, to change your appearance, to try to fit into the DNC elite cabal, to make such generalizations and attack people and use such profanity I mean, every other word out of her mouth is the F word. All right? She's attacking JD Vance and his children, bringing them into it. This is a woman who is hurting, so I'm going to pray for Jennifer Welch, but I've also discussed her long enough, so let's move on. Now, speaking of women who are hurting, we have to talk about Jenny from the block, Ms. Jennifer Lopez. So Jennifer Lopez did an interview on the Howard Stern show a few days ago where she talks about how men are not capable of loving her. Let's take a look.

[Interview Clip Speakers (Various)]

Do you think you really have experience loving someone?

[Batya Unger Sargon]

Yes.

[Interview Clip Speakers (Various)]

You have?

[Host (Link Lore)]

Yeah.

[Interview Clip Speakers (Various)]

And when you can't get that love.

[Host (Link Lore)]

Back, what I learned, it's not that I'm not lovable. It's that they're not capable.

[Interview Clip Speakers (Various)]

They can't love.

[Host (Link Lore)]

They don't have it in them. They need to appreciate the little person inside of them.

[Interview Clip Speakers (Various)]

They have little to give.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

Yeah.

[Host (Link Lore)]

Jennifer Lopez, she's the type of person who can find the thorn in everybody else, but can't see the log in her own heart. Okay. Jennifer Lopez, she wants to blame every other man for her problems and the fact that she's single and alone and hurting. Maybe you're the problem in life. You notice how the people who say everyone else is the problem, they're actually the problem themselves. I mean, Jennifer Lopez, right, She'll go back to the same guy over and over and over. She keeps screwing around with these Hollywood guys, or she's dating backup dancers. I think Jennifer Lopez, the reason she has to date these industry folks is because normal guys wouldn't put up with the bs. I think Jennifer Lopez, in my opinion, according to all of the stories we've seen, Jennifer Lopez is probably a monster to be around in private. Jennifer Lopez probably flips out on waiters. She probably, you know, flips a shit at home. Jennifer Lopez is a diva. She's known for being a diva. Right. I don't think she really has all the talent and the chops to back it up. At least vocally. At least vocally. Jennifer Lopez does not have the chops to back it up, but I think she's a diva. I think men come around her, and they do like the lifestyle. If you don't have a ton of money and you're a backup dancer and Jennifer Lopez is dating you, they like the lifestyle. They want to go out. But you can't blame every man for the fact that you're single. You know what I'm saying? Jennifer Lopez could probably have any single guy she Wants. Okay, she's got a great body. She's fit, she's stunning. There's something that happens when they get alone with her where they decide, you know what? We're not that into it, but we also found a story this broke in the New York Post. So her ex husband, Ojani Noah. Haven't really heard of him. Maybe he was her first husband. She's had quite a few. He went on an Instagram rant against her, accusing her of cheating. Here's what he said. Let me just say, stop putting us down. Stop putting me down with your victim card. The problem is not us, not me. The problem is you. You're the one who couldn't keep it in your pants. You have been loved a few times. You've been married four times and have had countless relationships in between. My God, he's taking her down. You've had good relationships. Me, for example. I'm an amazing, loving person, great human being, honest, faithful to you. Never lie, never misbehave, never cheated on you. I was good to you. I'm too good of a man for you. Okay, now you're looking like a little bit of a beta bitch, but okay. You. You chose fame and fortune moving a part of our relationship. You decided to lie to cheat on me. And even though I stayed, I even tried to keep the marriage going and alive. You begged me to keep the marriage intact to avoid bad press caring more about you. I don't know how JLO recovers from that. If your ex comes out and says, sweetie, you've been married four times. You've chosen fame and fortune and attention and paparazzi over all of us. I believe it. I believe that 100%. I think Jennifer Lopez is driven by such a need for love and attention. Maybe there's something hurting from her childhood. Who knows? Some unhealed type of wound. Okay, I'm going all Dr. Phil. There's an unhealed wound in Jennifer Lopez, and I'm not talking about her most recent nip and tuck. Nonetheless, I think it's interesting. Her husband, who has never really been someone we've covered in pop culture. I've never heard of this man. Apparently, he was Jennifer Lopez's first husband. For him to call her out like this and to come out of the woodwork tells me there's probably some merit to what he says. He could have been way thirstier the last 10, 20 years looking for attention. I've never heard of him, and I covered these things pretty closely. So, Jennifer Lopez, I think it's interesting. She wants to blame everyone else for her problems and say that men are not capable of loving her, but maybe she should go back to the source and look in the mirror and be, you know, cognitive and self reflective and realize maybe she's the problem. Talk about a legend who has fallen. Robert De Niro was once an incredible actor, an amazing actor. But the Trump Derangement Syndrome, the Trump Derangement Syndrome has eaten away at Robert De Niro's brain like we've never seen before. Maybe. Rosie o'. Donnell. Right. There are a few folks, but Robert De Niro is really suffering from a severe case of tds. And I don't think there's any coming back for him. He was on MSNBC a few days ago. He went on MSNBC and he basically implied that Trump voters can't get the truth because they live in rural areas and they don't have good news sources out there. Let's take a look.

[Interview Clip Speakers (Various)]

They're used to seeing Trump do his stuff and they talk and they listen, and that's the truth to them because they don't listen to anything else. Somewhere way out in the Midwest, somewhere out west, in certain places, the rural places, that's the truth, because he gets the airtime. And I think that we need more airtime, just more push against and not I wish that you can't do this in some ways, but that the, the news media could find ways to kind of ignore or tamp down nonsense from Trump. It's just total nonsense. But those people out there listen to it and assume if it can be on the air and it's out there, it's the truth.

[Host (Link Lore)]

This is another Hillary Clinton basket of deplorables type of comment. Okay? This is like when Joe Biden called half the country garbage. This is what the Democratic elites, especially the folks in Hollywood, think about. A majority of the country, a majority of the country does not live in New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles. They do live in a lot of red areas. A majority of the country is rural. Okay, so to say that rural folks don't have access to the news or the Internet or they can't get the truth. No, they're actually getting the truth. For you to sit on msnbc, one of the most Democratic elite networks, and say that people can't get the truth, we need to get the truth to them. MSNBC has pushed every hoax and every lie and carried water for Joe Biden, Morning Joe. Okay? Morning Joe is probably one of the highest paid people on MSNBC. He went out there in 2024 and said Joe Biden was the quickest, sharpest he's ever been. He said he's the quickest and sharpest he's ever been. So you're sitting on MSNBC and saying that they're the ones giving the truth. Msnbc. All they do is lie. All they do is I. They give Rachel Maddow, I think, 25, $30 million a year to do one show a week and sit there and lie and gaslight the American people. All they do is platform Kamala Harris and Democrats. So no to go out there and say Trump voters do not have access to the news because they live in rural areas. Robert De Niro, for someone who came from humble beginnings, I really think that's a disgusting desp comment. But his disgusting, despicable comments know no bounds. He went on to basically imply that Stephen Miller was a Nazi.

[Interview Clip Speakers (Various)]

He will not. He. We see it. We see it. We see it every. We see it all the time. He will not want to leave. He set it up with his. I guess he's the Goebbels of the. Of the Cabinet, Stephen Miller. He's. He's a Nazi. Yes, he is. And he's Jewish, and he should be ashamed of himself.

[Host (Link Lore)]

So the Democrats have learned nothing. They're going to continue calling everybody in this administration Hitler, Nazi, a fascist, time and time again. And that's why we've seen this political violence and this extremism ratcheted up on the left, okay? These political extremists on the left, who I think are domestic terrorists, they're picking up guns and trying to kill Republicans because Republicans in office have been so dehumanized by the mainstream media, okay? And we want to tone down the rhetoric. Everyone says we need to tone down the rhetoric. What about the folks on msn? Y' all just allowed one of the most famous actors to go on television and call a father and a husband and someone working in the administration a Nazi. And I didn't hear any pushback. He's a Nazi. And no one even chimed in. They didn't cut to commercial. He is a Nazi. Okay? So there's going to be 1% of the population, let's say, who's crazy, who's nuts, who's mentally unwell, and they hear these folks being called Nazis and fascists and threats to democracy. And it's why we saw what happened with Charlie Kirk, who was barbarically assassinated. Barbarically assassinated. Who was so dehumanized and called all these names by the media. Same With President Trump was called Nazi, fascist Hitler for years. How many assassination attempts have we seen on his life? All right? How many assassination attempts? He's a father, husband, grandfather. So Robert De Niro, shame on you. You're disgusting. I actually can't even watch a Robert De Niro movie anymore. I can usually separate the art from the artist when it comes to music and all types of things, but there's something about Robert De Niro I can't watch a movie. I cannot watch a Robert De Niro movie anymore knowing he's such a disgusting person. And here's the thing. I say this all the time in all my videos and all my content. You don't have to love President Trump. You don't even have to like him. You can hate President Trump, okay? We have free speech in this country. You can vote however you want. But if you make your hatred for President Trump your entire personality, I think you're sick and you're unwell and you need help, okay? You don't have to like him, don't have to like his policies. You can fight him on his policies, but when you go out of your way and call him a Nazi and a fascist and Hitler and everyone around him and you make that your whole personality, you're a very small man. So, Robert De Niro, you're a little beta male. We will pray for you that you find peace. Let's talk about Peak, a luxury brand transforming wellness with the absolute best rare and precious plants, cutting edge ingredients and formulations rooted in traditional wisdom. 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If you've seen the latest news, Prince Andrew over the weekend he announced that he was going to relinquish his title or at least stop using his Duke of York title in public or to ingratiate himself or to aggrandize himself. He is going to continue to live at Royal Lodge. So he does still have some of the trappings of being a member of the royal family. But Prince Andrew, it's interesting, right? People are very happy that he's no longer going to be using his title. They don't think he should be a senior royal anymore because of his alleged indiscretions, which we have to say he has denied. He has denied these indiscretions, though it doesn't look great for him. But nonetheless, Prince Andrew has vehemently denied doing anything wrong, anything wrong whatsoever. But he has decided with the crown, with the monarchy, that he is no longer going to use his title for fame, fortune, anything in between. So is Fergie, right? So is his wife, Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York. She's no longer going to use her title. In fact, we just found out before we sat down to tape that apparently on the royal website, they no longer say Duke of York, Duchess of York. Sarah Ferguson has changed her social media. So this is all developing. By the time we watch this, there might be a new development. But my thing is this. If we are going to strip Prince Andrew of his title, even just publicly, right? Say you're not going to use your title anymore. I think the two little hucksters over in Montecito, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, need to have their title stripped as well. Okay? Meghan Markle Markle left the royal family almost six years ago in January of 2020, and she is still dining out on her Duchess of Sussex title. She has only spent about five hours in Sussex, according to our research. Okay? According to our research, she's barely spent time in Sussex. I spent more time there as a tourist. Okay? So Meghan Markle, she continues to dine out on her title. I want Prince Harry and Meghan Markle to have their titles stripped next. You should not be allowed, okay, to use your Duchess of Sussex title, your Royal Highness title, to sell jams, jellies and dog biscuits, okay? Meghan Markle to get Netflix deals when it's convenient to go to Balenciaga fashion shows when you haven't done jack for the royal family. And what I don't understand about Meghan Markle is this. I'm getting hot. Getting hot right now. She leaves the royal family almost six years ago. She goes on Oprah. She accuses the royal family of racism, treating her horribly, of driving her to want to take her own life, but yet she still wants to use her title every chance she gets. When you go to her website where she's selling these jams, jellies and dog biscuits, she's still calling herself the Duchess of Sussex. Sweetheart, you live in Southern California and you walk around in jean booty shorts all day, okay? We don't have royalty here in the United States, okay? You're about as royal as that countess on Real Housewives, Countess Luann, at this point. Okay? So I think Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, if they're constantly going to do tell all books and docu series and reality shows and crap on their family across the pond and not do any work for the crown, for the monarchy, not do anything philanthropic to help the folks. Even in the uk, in Africa, why do they get to use their titles time and time again? So Prince Andrew, I understand folks are upset with Prince Andrew. Sure, be upset with Prince Andrew. He's probably some sleazy guy who has some indiscretions and did bad things, which he denied eyes. Okay, but let's be honest about something here. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are much closer in line to the throne than Prince Andrew has ever been. Okay? We're talking about fifth in line for the throne. God forbid there's a disaster, something happens, people get sick, there's a crash, a plane goes down, God forbid, okay? 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[Host (Link Lore)]

Well, my friends, I could not be more excited to welcome this next guest. Batya Unger Sargon, the host of the new show Batia on News Nation. I love a one word title. It's like Madonna or Cher. We have Batya. Batya. How are you doing?

[Batya Unger Sargon]

I am so thrilled to be here with you. I'm such a huge, huge fan. You were on the first episode of my show and I am so grateful to you. Such a great way to launch. Thank you so much for having me.

[Host (Link Lore)]

Thank you. Thank you so much for being here. We have to start off. I know you are a busy, busy woman. We have to start off by talking about these no Kings protest. Okay? I got some folks riled up over the weekend. I said that the no Kings protests were kind of pathetic and bleak and I didn't mean that they didn't have some crowds, right? They got some crowds in big cities, which you would expect protesting Trump in New York. In the East Village, we could get like a million people protesting fur or meat. You know, it wasn't that crazy, but I said it was pathetic because I'm still trying to figure out what the no Kings protests accomplished. And all these people in my comments, they're attacking me, saying horrible things and I'm like, that's fine with the ad hominem attacks. Explain to me, Bhatia, what you think These no Kings protest actually accomplished, if.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

Anything, you know, it's such a great question. People had a very similar line of questioning of the Women's March, if you remember, in 20, right after President Trump took office, where it was just this outpouring of outrage. From then, it was actually much more diverse. There were a lot more young people on the streets. This really seemed to be white boomers. In these no Kings protests, they're saying there were 7 million. I'm not sure that's accurate, but I thought President Trump's response was really apt. He was like, these people are not representative even of the mainstream of the Democratic Party. What it is representative of is that sort of of far left fringe that is just outraged. They're just outraged that Trump is the president. And I couldn't help but feel like the thing they're really outraged at is not even Trump. It's really their fellow Americans who showed up in greater numbers, voted for Trump, swung every single swing state to him, popular vote, electoral College, and are now getting exactly what they voted for. So everything that they're mad at him for doing was a campaign promise. He's just going one by one and fulfilling those campaign promises. His base is thrilled. Over 90% are thrilled that they voted for him. They're very happy with what he's doing. And that, I think, is what is so outrageous to the left is they're so used to having power, both cultural and political, and they've lost, really, both of those. And I think that's really what this was. It was just like a venting of, like, white, progressive boomer outrage.

[Host (Link Lore)]

No, absolutely. It almost felt like an early Halloween to me. And maybe we can put some of the clips up on the screen. It felt like an early Halloween boccia, because they're out there in, like, furry costumes and ridiculous outfits, and they're chanting and they're singing and doing, you know, organized choreography. I'm like, this looks very, very unserious. You know, they've spent all of these years saying, trump is Hitler, he's a fascist, he's a threat to democracy. And then they're out there doing, like, spirit fingers in the street. So it's hard for me to take seriously. Don't you think? There's a part of this them. It's not that they want no kings, it's that they wanted a different king. They wanted, you know, Kamala Harris. They wanted their king to win, and they can't accept that elections have consequences.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

It's so interesting because they really can't Fathom that. You know, you look at what happened on the Democratic side, 14 million primary voters voted for Joe Biden. They threw those out to coronate. Kamala Harris, you know, who failed to win a single. A single state when she was running in 2019. She withdrew before a single vote was cast. I mean, talk about kings, right? That sense of entitlement, that this was hers, similar to what they did to Bernie Sanders in 2016 with Hillary Clinton. No, it's hers, right? It's her time, it's her moment, that entitlement. Whereas President Trump really won off of what he promised to do. I never experienced in my life a president actually going one by one and just fulfilling those campaign promises. Irrespective of what the media says, irrespective of what Wall street says. I promise tariffs. I'm doing tariffs. I'm not here to service Wall Street. I'm here to service the American people. And so I think you're so right that the populist energy that is motivating the right right now is this feeling of actually democracy is working. Do you know that in the primary on the Republican side, Nikki Haley outspent Trump 2 to 1, and in the general election, Kamala Harris outspent Trump 3 to 1. He spent 350 million. She spent $1.2 billion in 100 days. So all of this whining about bought elections, it's literally the opposite. It turned. I used to think as a lefty, you know, Citizens United was like the worst thing to have. You cannot have a democracy with Citizens United States. Turns out that's actually not true. When you have somebody who ignores the elites, ignores Project 2025 when they tell him to, you know, overturn gay marriage, ignores Project 2025, and they tell him, you know, national abortion ban. No, the American people don't want that. They're very pro gay. They like you know, to have a certain amount of abortion rights enshrined, you know, so he marginalized the intellectual elites on the far right, right? He marginalized the money. He marginalized Wall street, which for three election cycles in a row chose the Democrats over Donald Trump. This is what democracy looks like. And it's so funny to see these Democrats take to the streets allegedly in defense of democracy, but actually what they're protesting is democracy in its most glorious American form.

[Host (Link Lore)]

No, absolutely. That's what's so confusing about the Democratic Party right now, especially these Democratic elites, is that they say they want no kings and they want no oligarchs. But then you look and they constantly, they're G Medals of freedom to George Soros and their billionaire donors. Kamala Harris, she spent more time with celebrities, doing celebrity events with like, Beyonce and Lizzo than she did speaking to working class Americans in Michigan. And Trump was like, I'm going to Michigan. I'm speaking to working class Americans. I'm going to Pennsylvania. I'm going to tap into these forgotten men and women of the country. But the Democrats have become the party of the elites. And I know you've written books about this. Please tell us what you think about this as it pertains to no kings.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

No, completely. It's so funny because, like, nobody told Alex Soros that he's not supposed to, to post his, his trophy photos with his trophy politicians to social media while they're out there on their, like, you know, no oligarchy tour. Bernie Sanders only travels to these things and private jets with private security. Now AOC travels with him on his private jets. Like, it's hilarious. But it's not just the hypocrisy, it's the whole party. So nine of the 10 richest counties in America now represented by Democrats, the vast majority of Americans making over $500,000 a year now are Democrats. And meanwhile, Trump, majority of Americans making under $100,000 a year. 95% of political donations coming out of the top three management consultant firms went to Democrats, 75% of Silicon Valley Democrats, 75% of donations coming from hedge fund managers, Democrats. Right. We've seen a total, total political realignment to where the GOP is the party, the working class, and the Democrats are the party of the rich. And now the problem is neither side has acknowledged that the GOP has a lot of work to do as well, because they're also operating a little bit on the muscle memory of like, we're the party of the rich. We're supposed to do nice things for rich people. And it's like, no, you're the party of the working class. You're supposed to protect capitalism that raises all ships in the way that Donald Trump is really doing and has really made a hallmark of this, of this second administration.

[Host (Link Lore)]

Well, absolutely. That's what's so interesting to me is that they paint him as this billionaire hotshot guy from New York City who had a reality show and penthouse apartments and everything gilded and covered in gold. He speaks to working class Americans a thousand times better than anybody on the left right now. But speaking of someone the Democrats are scared to condemn but also scared to endorse is Zoran Mamdani. In New York City, all of these elite Democrats, they go and they do interviews and they're like, well, you endorse Zoran Momdani. Oh, I want to get involved. So I want to get your thoughts on Zoram Donny. There's also New York Post cover we'll put up on the screen where apparently he's hanging out with these gay hating Brooklyn imams who are linked to the 1993 World Trade center bombing. I mean, this doesn't sound great that he's hanging out with these people, but when you look at all these pictures, even from his campaign months ago, he's constantly at mosques, he's hanging out with people who don't love my kind, who don't are too friendly to me. Tell me though, okay, Because I'm actually really struggling. And I said last night, I want to ask Bocce about this. I left New York City, I moved out of New York City. I live in a red state now. I and a lot of my followers are having a hard time caring about Zoran Mamdani. But in conservative media, they've made Zoran Mamdani this boogeyman figure and really built him up into this huge star by attacking him every single day. But 98% of the country, we don't live in New York City. He will not affect us. We don't understand why people continue to live in New York City in these liberal hellholes. So explain to me and my audience why Zoran Mamdani is a cautionary tale for the rest of the country and maybe 2028, like, why should we care that this is happening in New York City?

[Batya Unger Sargon]

That is hilarious. You probably shouldn't. He's, you're totally right. He's not going to have a big impact on your life. Life. It's such a great point. I do think the media overcovers them because the media is in New York and in D.C. and so they're like hyper focused on their own life and their own little world. Of course, you know Fox News, which tapes out of New York City. Right. And has to now, you know, deal with this. You're right. It's going to have very little impact, I think, on your life. And it's honestly, it's to President Trump's credit that he's upset about it and he's trying to avert this disaster for New Yorker. Because you're right, it would be better for him if Mamdani wins and then turns New York into a hellhole. And then the Republicans can really say like, look, this is coming for you, you know, next, you know, next up in your town, in your hometown, you know, in the middle of the country, when it really isn't. I find him to be such an interesting character. He seems to me kind of like a millennial adult daycare counselor. Like, you know, kind of like the Pied Piper of Bushwood. Like, he's the hero for these sort of permanently infantilized millennials who were never able to become adults because of the housing market and the jobs market. And so they got these fancy degrees and they're in debt and they're basically, you know, their jobs have not lived up to the promise that they had. You know, when they were younger, they were told like, you know, you are the elite, you are the future of this country. And they can't buy homes. And so they're sort of in this permanent, permanent state of being children. And he shows up and he does activities for them, you know, he does. There was a, A. What was it called? They had this. Where they ran around picking up clues.

[Host (Link Lore)]

Oh, right.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

And what's it called?

[Host (Link Lore)]

My producer. What's it called? We run around A scavenger hunt.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

A scavenger hunt. And it was. I was like watching to see who's gonna show up for the scavenger hunt. It was like grown up, but obviously not grownups. Right. Like people who find it difficult to adult. He is their hero. You know, he lives in this rent stabilized apartment despite the fact that he makes good money now. You know, like, and they forgive him for that because their parents are probably also paying their rent. You know, like, he's exactly like them. And I think that that's really the key here is, like, he's not really a politician. He's sort of an avatar for a state of mind that a lot of people who would have been elites had they had that trajectory like 10 years ago, 20 years ago, who are now not able to do so. They see in him this kind of like, you know, oh, he legitimizes it, if you will, while also providing them with like all of the activities and the daycare aspect of it. The camp counselor of it all.

[Host (Link Lore)]

Well, what's interesting, I totally agree with what you're saying. I think he has sort of tapped into this sort of despondency of young people in, like, they see that 38 is the average age now for a first time home buyer. It was 28 in 1992. Right. So things aren't great for so many young people. They feel like the system's Rigged against us. Owning a home is a distant fantasy. The American dream is unattainable. But then I play the other side of that, right? As someone who lived in New York City, you're not entitled to live in this fabulous, amazing city with the arts and culture and, you know, it's a commercial hub. You're not entitled to live there for cheap, you know what I'm saying? Who told you that you just got to live in the most expensive fancy city on planet earth for cheap and that every everything should be free and government issued bread and housing and free transportation, you know what I'm saying? It's like, why do these young people, and maybe they're just so entitled, they think we should just get everything for free if we want to live in New York City and live this fabulous life. Do you see that too as well, Bhatia?

[Batya Unger Sargon]

Yeah, and it's so funny because, you know, when it used to be this sort of hub for artists and musicians and all of this, like in the 70s and 80s, it was a shithole, it was dangerous, it was dirty. Like these artists were broke and they were living in these like rundown tenements, you know, now you have people who sort of want this much more upper class lifestyle, but the market is not able to sustain that. And that's where the downward mobility comes from. You're totally right. Like, most of these people that we're describing could move to a red state and buy a house and take a job in PR and raise a family, but they don't want that. They want the promise that they were, you know, that they feel that they were promised as young people. People.

[Host (Link Lore)]

Well, it's interesting, my friends who are most upset about mom Donnie, they have, you know, condos and homes in Florida and Texas and across the country. I'm like, so get out. Stop complaining. No one's forcing you. Like, are you canvassing? Are you trying to get other candidates elected? Are you doing anything? The last thing I want to discuss with you, and this wasn't in our rundown of topics, but I know you've done so much research and writing on working class Americans. You're really just one of the most intelligent people. So I wanted to ask you about this. A topic I cover a lot in my content and on the show is the despondency of young men. And we've seen data recently that going to a four year university is no longer a net positive for young men. And then you see these clips of the indoctrination that's happening in the Classrooms. I went to one of these universities. I can speak from experience of what's happening. You see, Harvard is hiring drag queens to teach queer ethnography. This drag queen, Lahore Vagistan, will put a picture of her up. If you are speaking to parents out there, do you recommend even sending your kids to a four year university or going to a trade school and learning a skill that can actually pay your rent bills?

[Batya Unger Sargon]

It is such a hard question. By the way, one of the reasons I'm so grateful for your voice is just the way in which you are not afraid to point out how I think in many ways the trans agenda has been used to turn like normal gays into the privileged, which is like such a crazy thing to have happened in such a short amount of time. So the reason it's a really important question is because on the one hand, the economy that Democrats created in which in order to achieve the American dream, you still have to have a college degree, that is being reversed by President Trump. So he sees AI, for example, as a way of boosting working class wages and working class jobs. The tariffs, the immigration control, all of this is meant to help working class people who go to trade schools achieve the American dream. We have a huge shortage of skilled trades folks in this country. Huge. On the other hand, what if the Democrats win in 2028? You think they're going to keep this going? No, because having a four year degree is the number one predictor for being a Democrat, which is why they got rid of vocational training in schools in the first place. So it's such a hard thing to tell somebody like, what should their child do? How do you advise them? Because we all want the same thing for our kids. American dream, right? Raise a family, retire in dignity. It's very hard to say. And I would say definitely that is one of the major differences between the two parties right now is the Republicans are very focused on achieving the American dream for people who work with their hands for a living. And the Democrats have used the indoctrination of a college degree to mask the way in which they abandoned labor. Labor. And to paint themselves as the good guys. And they're definitely going to keep doing that if they win power again. So it's just such a tough question. But it is the most important question right now. Keep asking it.

[Host (Link Lore)]

Totally. Yeah, I know a majority of my audience is women. It's 85% women. A ton of them are moms and grandmas. And so I just get these messages all day saying I would never let my kid now go to Harvard or Columbia or any of these Ivy League schools. I feel like it's almost a negative. Like, if you're hiring and you're in a employer and someone comes in, they could have, you know, Magnum cum laude. I went to Harvard, I went here. I almost want the person who's just, like, hustled and made it work and made it happen for themselves, who has that agency. And I also think you come out of college with all of this debt. There's no guarantee now that it's going to be a net positive for you in terms of employment or salary, and then you're just so far behind. So I just really wanted to hear your voice on that. And you also mentioned one thing before I let you go about the trans agenda. I have no problem, problem calling out this LGBTQIA R2D2 crap that we've had. And it is interesting that folks like me, I was with some gay friends recently, and we're like, we've become like the normies, the boring ones. They paint us now as, like, we're just real boring. You know, we're with the system, and we're, you know, part of the system now. It's like, really 10 years ago, we couldn't even get married, you know, June 2015, I guess. But no, it is interesting to see this trans agenda. And you still live in New York City, so you see it way, way, way more than I do. Bhatia.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

Yes. Yes, indeed. I will say, you know, I know I'm supposed to care the most on the Tsar and Mamdani front about the ways in which he's bad for my people, but seeing him cuddling up to people who are so homophobic, it's so disgusting. And I think that there's one of the things I learned when I was reporting my book Second Class. I traveled the country and interviewed hundreds of working class people. And I learned, like, from them, like, there's no LGBTQ in the working class class. There's, like, very, very pro gay Christians and conservatives and Republicans who sound indistinguishable from Democrats when they talk about their gay friends and, you know, their neighbors and their family members who they want to see settle down and get married and fall in love, even if it's with somebody of the same sex, because that's what they want for their people in their lives. That's everybody in this country now. And then even the Democrats I interviewed who were working class were really worried about the trans agenda in schools, in bathrooms, in sports. So there was no LGBTQ There was, like, everybody was pro gay and everybody was really worried about and stuff. And, like, that is something that I think elites really don't understand, because the elites on the far right still haven't gotten the memo about, like, sorry, the gay marriage question is over. Over. We won. Move on. And then the elites on the left are, like, obsessed with the transing of it all, and I think that. That they miss where most of the country is.

[Host (Link Lore)]

Well, what's interesting is I think what upsets some people on the left, even in my comments, is that I respect people's religious freedoms and religious liberties. There are some folks who even watch me, and maybe they're not down with gay marriage. And I think some folks on the left are mad that I don't take it personally. I don't care if you're watching me. And you don't think I'm. You don't think I have. Have the right to get married. I do. You know what I'm saying? But I respect that you have your religious difference. That was sort of, you know, what I loved about Charlie Kirk? Because he's like, look, I have my own beliefs, but I'm still going to be friends with you and like you and hang out with you. It's like, I'm an adult, okay? I'm not a little baby victim constantly. And I think a lot of the LGBT folks on the left want to play the victim card. But something I've talked about a lot in my content as well. And I'm so glad you said this. There is no LGBT community anymore. Everybody's like, you're turning on your community. No, we're all different little communities now. We're 10 years post Obergefell, the Supreme Court decision. We have equal rights. I don't know why. We're all part of one umbrella. We're not all one community. And that's what drove me so much to the Republican Party, is they really judge based off of merit. They don't care if you're gay, straight, black, white. They're like, tell us what you can do. Right? Scott Besant, people say all the time he's the top gay cabinet member in history. I'm like, yes, but he wasn't chosen because he was gay. He was chosen because he was excellent. Okay, Final words, and I'll stop filibustering.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

Well, just note, I mean, the power gays have taken over the Trump administration, like, that's. It's the funniest thing to ever happen. But it's like, you know, there was a really funny comment from one of these, like, young female right wing journalists. And she was like, you know, I thought when I moved to dc, I'd be able to, like, meet a whole bunch of guys in the right wing scene. And she's like, they're all gay. And it's like, yeah, it is the most welcoming place right now. And yeah, I totally agree with you. Like, I didn't even realize Scott Besant was gay until he introduced his husband and his kids at his confirmation hearing. And that's kind of. That was. Dr. King's vision was like, yeah, based on merit. And it's so amazing to see that being achieved by the right in so many ways that I think is. It's really. Actually, as an American, it's very moving.

[Host (Link Lore)]

No, it's interesting you bring up the administration. One of my friends in the admin, Martin Marks, he loves you. And I said, bhatia's coming on tomorrow. And he was so excited. And so I'm so grateful you came on. And I will be tuning in. I always record your show and, and then I go through and I see. Because you have really good guests. I think you just interviewed Howard Lutnick. You've got great guests. Your show is hot, and I'm inviting myself back on. But have an amazing rest of your week. Vodka, we all love you so much. Everybody go follow and subscribe and we'll be posting a bunch. So have an amazing day. Thank you for being here.

[Batya Unger Sargon]

God bless. I know I'm going to get canceled for this, but it was totally worth it.

[Host (Link Lore)]

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Well my friends, that concludes this episode of Spot on with Linklore. And this actually turned out to be one of my favorite episodes. So maybe if you guys really share it with all your friends and family, I will love it even more. Thank you so much for tuning in. I also have to say if you made it to this point in the episode, shout out to all of the senior citizens who watch us. Over the weekend. There was a lot of vitriol about seniors in our country. People said, oh, it was all a bunch of old people marching in the streets. I said, my audience has a lot of old people. I love my folks in their 70s, their 80s, their 90s. I read all of your comments. I love you all. I don't like when young people, you know, don't give older folks attention who've paved the way for us. So I love you and I thank you for tuning in and sending our show to your kids and grandkids. So without further ado, we will be back on Wednesday. Be safe. God bless. Bye.

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[Batya Unger Sargon]

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