Squawk Pod Episode Summary
Episode Title: A Weak Jobs Report & Regulating Prediction Markets
Date: March 6, 2026
Hosts: Becky Quick, Joe Kernen, Andrew Ross Sorkin
Highlight Guests: Mary Daly (San Francisco Federal Reserve President), Sean Maloney (former congressman, CEO Prediction Markets Coalition)
Overview
This episode of Squawk Pod delves into three major themes: the surprisingly weak February US jobs report and its implications for Fed policy, the chaos and geopolitics of the escalating Iran war, and the rise—and regulation—of prediction markets in the US. San Francisco Fed President Mary Daly joins for a candid assessment of employment and inflation dynamics. Later, Sean Maloney explains the regulatory landscape and debates around political and event-based prediction markets, amid new proposed legislation.
Main Topics & Key Discussion Points
1. Market and Geopolitical Turmoil (02:53 – 13:02)
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Iran War Escalation:
- Andrew Ross Sorkin recaps the latest: missile strikes by Iran on Tel Aviv; Israel’s counterattacks in Lebanon; the House’s rejection of a resolution to curb President Trump’s war powers.
- “Iran’s Foreign Ministry said his country isn’t seeking a cease fire … doesn’t see any reason why it should negotiate.” (03:33)
- Joe Kernen notes that Iran's missile and drone attacks have disproportionately targeted the UAE, with 37,000 flight cancellations in the region.
- “UAE far and away, like by a factor of ten more than Israel. Israel is way down here.” (05:15)
- Andrew Ross Sorkin recaps the latest: missile strikes by Iran on Tel Aviv; Israel’s counterattacks in Lebanon; the House’s rejection of a resolution to curb President Trump’s war powers.
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Oil Prices and US Response:
- Discussion of rising oil prices due to conflict and possible US actions, including speculation on use of oil futures to stabilize prices.
- “President Trump told Reuters, if prices at the pump rise, they rise. But he predicted that they would drop rapidly when the conflict with Iran is over.” (05:02)
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US Defense Readiness:
- Becky Quick outlines Congressional concerns about US ammunition stockpiles amid wars in the Middle East and Ukraine.
- “There are questions. It’s been stretched thin not only by what we’ve been doing in the Middle East, but years of helping support Ukraine…” (07:29)
- Becky Quick outlines Congressional concerns about US ammunition stockpiles amid wars in the Middle East and Ukraine.
2. Anthropic vs OpenAI, AI and Politics (07:58 – 12:16)
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Anthropic’s Standoff with DOD:
- Andrew Ross Sorkin explains the fallout from a leaked memo by Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei criticizing the administration’s designation of their Claude AI as a supply chain risk for the Pentagon.
- “He says that his company has no choice but to challenge its designation…” (08:09)
- Joe Kernen and Sorkin debate whether government regulatory pressure under Trump is uniquely political or business as usual—highlighting past examples from the Biden era.
- “No other administration has ever done this…” —Andrew Ross Sorkin (11:35)
- “Once again, nobody should be able to do it.” —Joe Kernen (11:11)
- Andrew Ross Sorkin explains the fallout from a leaked memo by Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei criticizing the administration’s designation of their Claude AI as a supply chain risk for the Pentagon.
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Notable Exchange:
- The discussion gets heated between Sorkin and Kernen about political bias and the use of regulatory power.
- “It’s always different for you. And it’s never different for me.” —Joe Kernen (12:25)
- The discussion gets heated between Sorkin and Kernen about political bias and the use of regulatory power.
3. The February Jobs Report: Analysis with Fed’s Mary Daly (15:49 – 25:44)
Setting the Scene (14:59 – 15:49)
- Katie Kramer introduces the weak labor report: 92,000 job losses in February vs. expectations of +52,000; unemployment rises to 4.4%.
Mary Daly’s Interview: Major Insights
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On the Jobs Report:
- “No one month of data is a decisional month of data. ... The hopes that the labor market was steadying, maybe that was too much.” —Mary Daly (16:04)
- Daly emphasizes the need to look past monthly volatility; factors like strikes, snow, and population changes are distorting the view.
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Worries About Labor Market Weakness:
- “The piece I’m worried about is the labor market’s maybe a little weaker than we have seen so far.” (13:31/19:40)
- Discouraged workers may be leaving the labor force, reducing the participation rate.
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Inflation and Policy Outlook:
- Despite labor market softness, inflation remains persistent and above target, with oil price shocks complicating the outlook.
- “We have inflation printing above target and oil prices rising. ... Both of our goals are in our risks now.” (16:15)
- Daly avoids the word “transitory”—“I don’t think it was ever a good word and it’s certainly not one I’ll reintroduce.” (18:19)
- Despite labor market softness, inflation remains persistent and above target, with oil price shocks complicating the outlook.
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AI and Productivity Growth:
- Discussion about whether AI-driven productivity will lower inflation:
- “We can see productivity growth everywhere except in the data. ... You can't just reflexively say it’s coming.” —Mary Daly (23:04)
- Discussion about whether AI-driven productivity will lower inflation:
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Interest Rate Policy:
- Daly is cautious, not seeing cause for a rate hike but not yet seeing clear grounds for aggressive easing:
- “I’m certainly not in a position to think we should be hiking interest rates ... real issue about whether we should meet immediately, urgently act on the labor market or wait to think through the data.” (23:56)
- Daly is cautious, not seeing cause for a rate hike but not yet seeing clear grounds for aggressive easing:
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On Running the Economy Hot (Greenspan-era style):
- “I have not seen an example that the economy is running hot right now.” (25:25)
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Memorable Anecdote:
- Mary Daly jokes about San Francisco weather and Fed Chair Greenspan’s 100th birthday; casual rapport with hosts.
Timestamps:
- Jobs report intro: 14:59
- Daly interview: 15:49 – 25:44
- Notable quote: “The piece I’m worried about is the labor market’s maybe a little weaker than we have seen so far.” (19:40)
4. White House Turnover: Kristi Noem & Security Shuffles (28:18 – 32:44)
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Trump Fires Homeland Security Chief Kristi Noem:
- Andrew recounts Noem’s ouster after controversial self-promotion in an ad campaign and Senate testimony; replaced by Senator Markwayne Mullin.
- "Noem had served the country well and would be moving to a new security initiative." (28:18)
- Joe Kernen riffs on Mullin’s MMA background, culture of Oklahoma politics.
- The hosts reflect on Trump’s staffing strategy—keeping former staff inside the ‘tent.’
- Andrew recounts Noem’s ouster after controversial self-promotion in an ad campaign and Senate testimony; replaced by Senator Markwayne Mullin.
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Discussion of Border Security and the Politics of DHS Ads:
- Becky and Joe dive into the logic and optics of high-profile appointments in a high-stakes election year.
5. Regulating Political & Event Prediction Markets (Sean Maloney Interview) (33:25 – 45:06)
Prediction Markets in the Crosshairs
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Recent Scrutiny:
- Lawmakers move to ban prediction contracts involving government officials after controversial bets on foreign leaders' fates.
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Maloney’s Defense of Onshore, Regulated Markets:
- “That is an offshore player, that is not subject to U.S. regulation. ... The reason we don’t have those kind of abuses ... is because we ban insider trading already and we've got know your customer rules.” —Sean Maloney (33:54)
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Differentiating Prediction Markets from Gambling:
- Maloney distinguishes prediction contracts as “derivatives,” useful for hedging political and economic risk, not just speculation.
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Debating Where to Draw the Line:
- Sorkin presses about inside information risks on events from politics to entertainment:
- “It changes people’s fiduciary duty, the amount of inside information that can be in the system.” —Andrew Ross Sorkin (36:00)
- Maloney: “Insider trading is illegal. It’s been illegal, it's going to stay illegal.” (37:09)
- Sorkin presses about inside information risks on events from politics to entertainment:
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Examples Debated:
- Should people be allowed to bet on the first song at the Super Bowl, or what a celebrity will say at an awards show?
- “I have a view on what books you should read and which ones have value ... but on your case, what I'm trying to tell you is ... we have a referee to call balls and strikes on things like that.” —Sean Maloney (38:31)
- Should people be allowed to bet on the first song at the Super Bowl, or what a celebrity will say at an awards show?
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Guardrails and Regulation:
- Maloney advocates for a robust regulatory framework, lauds the CFTC’s new rulemaking process, and argues US onshore markets have already self-policed against problematic bets (e.g., assassination contracts).
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Memorable Moment:
- Maloney and the panel joke about losing bets on Super Bowl prop contracts, while stressing the difference between legally regulated and offshore "cowboy" markets.
Notable Quotes
- “What we want is good rules, good regulation, transparency.” —Sean Maloney (01:46, 35:47)
- “I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having a derivative based model that has good federal regulation because we understand those markets and they work.” —Sean Maloney (26:21, 41:13)
- “We agree … and that is exactly what the coalition exists to do.” —Sean Maloney (43:43)
Timestamps
- Maloney segment begins: 33:25
- Deep dive on regulation, hedging, and inside info: 36:29 – 44:54
Memorable Moments & Quotes
- Mary Daly on Data Volatility:
- “No one month of data is a decisional month of data.” (16:04)
- Joe Kernen, humorously, on debate fatigue:
- “I am not going to be able to calm you down on this. ... I'm exhausted.” (12:41)
- Quick, on jobs report clarity:
- “You're very measured. I appreciate that because I think that's probably realistically looking at what we're facing…” (20:16)
- Maloney, on regulatory needs:
- “There are serious issues [with prediction markets] and their coalition exists to be part of that conversation.” (34:28)
Episode Structure and Flow
- 00:00 – 02:15: Ad spots, show music, podcast open
- 02:15 – 13:02: Geopolitics, Iran conflict, oil, AI industry news
- 14:59 – 25:44: February jobs report discussion & Mary Daly’s Fed insights
- 28:03 – 32:44: Trump administration changes at DHS
- 33:25 – 45:06: Prediction market regulation, Sean Maloney interview
Conclusion
This Squawk Pod episode weaves breaking headlines (war in the Middle East, White House drama) with deeper economic analysis, capped by lively debate on regulating the fast-evolving world of prediction markets. Mary Daly of the SF Fed is calm but candid about labor market fragility and inflation risks, while Sean Maloney delivers a spirited but reasoned case for clear, responsible rules for US prediction platforms. The episode’s tone is brisk, occasionally combative—and laced with the hosts’ trademark banter.
