Alex Karp (45:05)
Well, you know, there's a lot of complicated questions because there's like. I mean, it's so funny because, you know, like, I mean, in this book, which is. There's like a lot of. It's true, but then it's like the surveillance state. So, like, interestingly, I and Palantir have historically been on maximal safety and maximal data protection. And the product is actually built despite. You know, if you're being told Palantir is easy, is the product to use, to surveil you, you're the mark. Like, you know, we actually. So how do you have maximum safety where you can still have a personal life? You know, and so, like, personal life may mean you're just flirting with the person next to you. It may mean you're at the stadium with someone you shouldn't be. It may mean you're just there alone when you should be at work. We all have things we need and want to do in our private life, and part of democracy is we get to keep that. And Palantir's architecture makes it possible to have en heightened safety and reduce surveillance. Now you have this issue across, are Americans safer? You know, a lot of it comes down to, are we going to have a mandate that actually helps working women and men? Because the truth in our society is you're pretty safe if you have money. What happens to you if you're in an environment where you're poor or working class, black, white, Hispanic, anything is. You are then in an environment where people are espousing, they believe in what they're saying, while in fact letting you live in a war zone. Whether it's the inner cities or the border, we essentially have a class divide in this society where underclass people, white, black, Hispanic, everyone, they absorb all the negative externalities of policies. And those of us who can afford to sit here have a great life. And the real question for our society, in my view and for AI, is how can we make sure people participate in gdp? Which also means they can go home safely, they can go to school, they can come back from school, they can go to the border and not get shot. We don't have fentanyl coming in our society. And, you know, more people have died from fentanyl in the last year than all service members since World War II. And almost all those people are working class. And that's why no one cares. If they were Yale grads, you'd have a bomb being dropped on some South American country, it would stop. And we have that's. So there's a huge societal thing. Then you get to like, you know, mass events. And we've seen very destructive to our core assassinations of people who had heroic roles. We saw Abby in Japan. That's outside of America. We saw Charlie Kirk. We've seen the CEO of United. We saw people cheering these things. So in my view, there is the stadium issues, and these are very hard issues. How do you actually protect against drone? There are, are tech technologies which are not publicly available that need to be made available that can help. But there's always a risk of something happen because the only way to take the risk to zero is to eviscerate all our civil liberties. So that's why I'd say, you know, if you actually look at. It's like gun deaths. Guns are not a problem in society. Guns in the inner city create most of the deaths. So how do you protect the Second Amendment and change gun deaths in this country? I mean, of course there are other gun deaths that happen, but statistically. And so, and these are what we should do with technology is make sure the people who are living the worst lives live lives closer to ours and make sure our lives advance as well. But never with the idea that we're going to reduce crime to zero. Because the only way to do that is to reduce deviant behavior to zero. And none of us want that. Because I'm not the only one who's a freak show. I'm just more open about it and like. And you know every single person who's like. And I'll tell you something else before I get to you, there's a big lesson in probably the Madani disaster, the short seller, the fentanyl thing. If you think you can sit on the sidelines here, like in our generation, we thought we could outsource or like anti Jewish bias. Like, you cannot outsource it to the experts. If you think the experts are going to stop anti Jewish bias or the fentanyl or, or whatever. No, they're not. They're lame. They're scared. They're going to. They're going to listen to the short seller instead of reading the numbers. Like, this is a really big lesson. Listen to the short seller. Look at our numbers in all these things. Every single one, every single person that cares is going to have to stand up and say, you know what I mean? It's crazy that we all have to be advocates for ourselves. But the experts are not showing up. They're scared. They're drinking.
