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Stace catches up with the man on the ground Tom De Souza to talk all things Margaret River Pro. Mainly who not to film in the car park. Thanks for dropping in.

“You’ll see some guy run a Slayer track at Emma Wood and you’re like WTF. The music has to match the energy of the surfing. The energy of the music has to lay just below the surfing. It has to lift it up, not eclipse it.” As far as tastemakers go, no one’s warped surfing’s Spotify playlist quite like Dane. In this episode of Stab Mic: we learn da rules (loose). Pairing. Energy matching. Matt Biolos’ rockstar licensing loophole. And whether Chief Keef or 21 Savage belong in surf edits. Our guest this week is Timo Simmers. Former and Sun Bum-sponsored surfer, who speaks to: Scoring the best waves of his life as a 16-YO on Surfline’s Maps to Nowhere trip. How hard Caity charges and her meteoric, but hardly surprising, rise to World Champ. How young people consume surf media. Why he was surprised the Chpt 11 squad were “nice and normal”, not emos. Machete wars at Stab High. Sharp Eyes. And other topics… like Jordy selling his yellow jerseys for cold hard cash.

“My ego and my common sense still argue with each other.” For someone who’s spent decades stress-testing the edge of what’s survivable, Nate Fletcher talks about his surfing career like it was mostly something that just happened around him. His impact on surfing is undeniable, across airs, big waves, and board and fin design. And though he carries it like a man overdue for a cigarette, nursing a permanent headache, each sentence beginning with a reluctant exhale, he also seems largely without ego, even as he admits it still tends to argue with his common sense. To muse on the impact he’s left behind is to treat his career as a finished painting, something to step back and admire, as if he isn’t still out there at 50, dragging a wet brush across the canvas. He does, however, admit to being done with big wave surfing, after a life spent learning intimacy with death, including being towed into one of the heaviest waves ever at Teahupo’o, and producing one of surfing’s more deranged frames: suspended for a second, then gone. “I have nothing left to prove,” says Nate. “The only reason I did it was for the rush. I don’t get that rush anymore. At some point you’ve got to ask why you’re doing it. I don’t really care what people think. I helped set the bar, but you can’t do it forever.” Nate has never seemed to care much what people think. He was laughed at for riding colourful boards and for experimenting with four fins, even by Kelly Slater, who later ran the setup in competition and said he hoped it might stand as his legacy. “I like colour,” Nate says, simply. This week, Dooma and Dane talk to Nate about the state of surfing and its drift toward wealthy hobbyists, how he became a pro surfer by accident, the debt he owes his mother for surviving him and Christian, and the generations of background misogyny she endured, the impact of social media on kids, and his continued admiration for Kelly Slater. We also debut a new segment with a WSL insider. Enjoy the episode.

“We could never pay back Kelly Slater for what he did for Channel Islands. That’s the truth of it. What does he want? The whole company?” As you’ll remember in SITDX, Britt Merrick spoke to the fracture left by Kelly’s departure from CI – something that registered, at least to him, as something of a betrayal, and perhaps one he felt more acutely than his father ever did. Kelly, when given the space to explain himself, offered a different version of events. He’d spoken to Al, there was a blessing, and, by his account, even affection on the way out, and an “I love you” to seal it. Britt claims it wasn’t Kelly leaving that broke his heart, that part he understood, but rather the Firewire business approach, the offshore model, and the way it has diminished domestic board building, eroding the respect that once sat alongside it. Britt, in his typical calm and considered tone that softens the edges of everything he says, phones in from Torquay to join Dooma and Dane at the desk. They move through Medina ordering CIs, his rivalry with DH, his belief that Ethan Ewing is the best surfer in the world, first memories of Dane, and, of course, the question of the age: whether or not Kelly knew. Enjoy the episode.

Mikey C has been axed, Josiah has been relegated from StabMIC to the Drop. Another week, another contest! Lets drop in to everything that is the Margaret River Pro.
Stab in the Dark with Ethan Ewing Episode 1 is now live, and it raises an important question. Not who he will pick as the winner — that will come — but whether a better surfer has ever existed. Mikey and Buck discuss this point, along with several other headlines from the past week: - Should Griffin have won that Dane Henry heat? - The innermost workings of Kelly's mind. - Does it matter more how a board looks or feels? - Stab High tickets for sale (for Premium members only!)

Dane is back. Mercy. Things resume. To watch along visit here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krloTW3PL1k Dane has become almost synonymous with anti-competition, his exit at the peak of his powers romanticised, mythologised even, into a Reynoldsian legend. An episode dedicated to the start of the WSL season, then, seems an odd fit. But Dane was a competitor once, which gives him a rare vantage: an outsider’s mind once lodged inside the system. His eyes are sharp and wisened from walking the floors himself, which makes talking competitive surfing with him an interesting experiment. Josiah and Dooma sit him down and prod for his take on the Aussie Treble, what competing at every stop taught him, why shaper non-monogamy is weird, trading boards with Andy Irons, and more.
It only took us 7 years, but The Drop has finally gone to Youtube! For pre-event eps, at least. And the best part is, you don't need to look at our ugly heads the whole time — live Bells warmups are the real star of the show. Listen on your standard podcast app, or watch the full show (preferred method) here: https://youtu.be/wSuxjOW02qs
Stace G and Mikey C give their long-awaited 2026 CT season preview, including: - Changes to the Tour - Rookie class analysis - Shaper Rankings favorites - World title picks and darkhorses

Little Weeds winner, Stab High champ, and surfing's master technician Chris Wilson joins the pod to discuss his favorite aerialists, a new sponsor and that time he nearly died surfing for a Stab film. This is Stab Mic episode 07, hosted by Damien Fahrenfort and Josiah Amico.