Podcast Summary: Standard of Truth Episode: S5E12 D&C 17
Host: Dr. Gerrit Dirkmaat
Guest: Dr. Richard Leduc
Release Date: March 20, 2025

Introduction

In this engaging episode of Standard of Truth, Dr. Gerrit Dirkmaat and his colleague, Dr. Richard Leduc, delve into Doctrine and Covenants section 17 (D&C 17). While initially touching upon lighter topics such as March Madness and their shared appreciation for The Sound of Music, the hosts transition seamlessly into a profound discussion on the significance of D&C 17 for Latter-Day Saints.

Notable Quote:
Dr. Gerrit Dirkmont [00:00]:
"For our Standard of Truth side, I thought we would drop what we had released last week for Doctrine and Covenants, Section 17. To me, this is a really important section..."

Banter and Lighthearted Conversation

The hosts begin with playful banter about sports and musicals, specifically referencing their favorite aspects of The Sound of Music. This segment serves to humanize the hosts and build rapport with listeners before delving into more serious theological content.

Notable Quotes:
Dr. Richard Leduc [03:22]:
"Hello, Garrett. Thanks for having me back in the pre-show. I provided you no help other than just singing the song from Sound of Music."
Dr. Gerrit Dirkmont [06:12]:
"Angie very much dislikes about the Sound of Music... she is irritated incredibly, every Christmas time when they play the Raindrops on Roses song..."

Doctrine and Covenants Section 17: An Overview

Section 17 of the Doctrine and Covenants is pivotal as it outlines the calling of the three witnesses—Oliver Cowdery, David Whitmer, and Martin Harris—who played a crucial role in the testimony of the Book of Mormon. Dr. Dirkmont emphasizes the importance of this revelation in strengthening faith and understanding church history.

Notable Quote:
Dr. Gerrit Dirkmont [07:50]:
"This is D&C 17, a powerful yet brief revelation... it explains that Oliver Cowdery, David Whitmer, and Martin Harris were moved upon and inspired to be the three witnesses."

The Three Witnesses: Their Testimonies and Significance

The discussion deepens as the hosts explore the experiences and testimonies of the three witnesses. They highlight the consistency and unwavering nature of their testimonies despite facing opposition and personal challenges.

Notable Quotes:
Dr. Gerrit Dirkmont [36:30]:
"One of the things to think about is that as Joseph's translating this, he's been told that he can't show the plates to anyone. He's also had the Lord reiterate that eventually, he'll be able to show someone."
Dr. Richard Leduc [43:15]:
"Yeah. Garrett the belaborer."

Historical Accounts and Interviews

Dr. Dirkmont shares insights from historical documents and interviews, particularly focusing on David Whitmer's accounts. These narratives provide a firsthand look into the events surrounding the witnessing of the plates and the angelic visitations.

Notable Quotes:
Dr. Gerrit Dirkmont [51:35]:
"One of these brothers is going to have an interview with David Whitmer. He says, 'We were on our way to Richmond Ray county to visit David Whitmer...'"
Dr. Richard Leduc [46:18]:
"Garrett the belaborer."
(Note: This light-hearted exchange exemplifies the camaraderie and humor between the hosts even during detailed historical discussions.)

Defense of the Witnesses’ Testimonies

A significant portion of the conversation is dedicated to defending the credibility of the three witnesses. The hosts argue against common criticisms, asserting that the unwavering nature of the witnesses' testimonies serves as compelling evidence of their truthfulness.

Notable Quotes:
Dr. Gerrit Dirkmont [67:47]:
"This is because on the other side they're well aware that the thing that they can't really explain is the Book of Mormon. The miracle that they can't just claim is a lie is the existence of that text."
Dr. Gerrit Dirkmont [81:10]:
"If you are ever having doubts... go read the witness accounts in the Book of Mormon. Ask yourself if this is all lies..."

Addressing Criticisms and Counterarguments

The hosts tackle various criticisms aimed at the witnesses, including claims of fabricated testimonies and inconsistencies. They refute these by highlighting the integrity and lifelong commitment of the witnesses to their testimonies, regardless of personal disagreements or opposition.

Notable Quotes:
Dr. Gerrit Dirkmont [77:26]:
"The witnesses never did deny their testimony. Even after they hate Joseph Smith, even after they're trying to destroy Joseph Smith, none of them do what would be the easiest thing to do to win the war against Joseph Smith."
Dr. Gerrit Dirkmont [81:04]:
"There is no good explanation to dismiss them... they are a rock that the evidence of the restoration is founded on."

Conclusion: The Enduring Legacy of D&C 17 and the Three Witnesses

Dr. Dirkmont wraps up the episode by underscoring the enduring importance of D&C 17 and the testimonies of the three witnesses. He encourages listeners to revisit these testimonies as a cornerstone of their faith and assurance in the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.

Notable Quote:
Dr. Gerrit Dirkmont [81:10]:
"Their testimonies are a solid aspect of what our testimonies of the Gospel of Jesus Christ should be. So thank you so much for joining us."

Final Thoughts

This episode of Standard of Truth offers a comprehensive exploration of Doctrine and Covenants section 17, providing listeners with both historical context and theological insights. Through thoughtful analysis and spirited discussion, Dr. Dirkmaat and Dr. Leduc reaffirm the significance of the three witnesses in the foundation of Latter-Day Saint faith.

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